/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

>BAD END: After the first translator gave up, we went through a bunch of people that would translate, but sooner or later they just ceased communicating. Recruiting people this way didn't really turn up reliable people; we asked all the translators we knew but none were interested. I highly doubt an open Wiki translation would help.

source: http://saya.mirrormoon.org/

[Anonymous Jones ‮[8-FTU] ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !TapsqdZp4A No.]

With Message on their team, you knew it was inevitable.

Fuck mirror moon anyway, it's all about ...........
...................__
............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\
........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...')
.........\.................'...../
..........''...\.......... _.·´
............\..............(
BR­O FIST TRANSLATIONS now.

[Chaos of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>1646044
Don't you mean "Yandere Translations"?

Because BRO FIST TRANSLATIONS was too fucking good for them.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's start an open wiki translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>I highly doubt an open Wiki translation would help.

Because they're too elistist faggots for that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646038

Saya ate all the translators?

[Anonymous Jones ‮[8-FTU] ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !TapsqdZp4A No.]

>>1646049
There can only be ...........
...................__
............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\
........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...')
.........\.................'...../
..........''...\.......... _.·´
............\..............(
BR­O FIST TRANSLATIONS. Nobody's perfect, but if we just call them ...........
...................__
............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\
........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...')
.........\.................'...../

[Anonymous No.]

Somebody else should just open up a wiki. It's a fucking short game, not that much text to translate compared to others.

[Chaos of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

>>1646071
They're no bros, bro.

They're just hoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646078
http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Saya_no_Uta.txt

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646115

Good grief, is that serious? Just one script file?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646055
let's be honest: aside of Clannad wiki project, what other projects got moderate/high help from external persons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646126
pretty much, its a really short game. Nice, short, and eats translators like candy. You would think it was longer for the dozens of translators its made give up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646148
Wanko to Kurasou

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646152

><VOICE NAME="青海" SRC="2\000104">『ネェネェ、今度ノすﾀfｾｾf劔。ｩI撥D錐年ハ、ドッ
カ渙ｨtーとモ遊ベﾋ坥ｿ牴xLナイ？』<k>

So, um, is this actually in the game, is it some sort of code language or did the script somehow got scrambled with mojibake when you uploaded it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646156
with mirrormoon fags alongside? sure a nice example.

Aside of this, projects like Umineko, Sharin no Kuni, etc are getting 0 help despite they used the Wiki translation format.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646165
there is a scripting language in there as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646165
Go play it now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646168

I use wiki format just because I find it more convenient and I want it to be available for other to pick it up if I ever give up on my project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646168
That's because people want fappin' in their games (doesn't explain CLANNAD, but oh well ... nothing explains KEY fans)

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646183
Sharin does have fappable material (delicious touka)

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646067
She just wanted to translate it for us herself. If they had realized that earlier, so many innocent translators wouldn't have had to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646190
So does Saya, but its still not going anywhere. Its been in progress for how long now?

[Anonymous No.]

Gentlemen, I propose that we kidnap TakaJun and force him to translate Saya.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh the number of RP campaigns this game has provided me with material for. Great source for fun with CoC and a few other systems.

[Teus !QbSstcPD6U No.]

>>Because they're too elistist faggots for that?
it's not really a solution

>>Somebody else should just open up a wiki. It's a fucking short game, not that much text to translate compared to others.
sure thing, get back to me when it's complete

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646222
>18:20
>>1646620
>19:55

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646190
Syarin isn't from Type--Moon or Key and it's really easy stuff to translate like Wanko.
You won't see it translated anytime soon;

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646630
>>it's really not easy stuff to translate like Wanko
Fixed

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646629
What exactly are you trying to point out?

[Anonymous No.]

>The difficulty of the game is quite high, about the level of Fate/Stay Night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646677
I can believe that, Takajun translation completely butchered the game. If you want a sample of how awesome Nasu can be when translated properly search for Arai's bits on BL

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit, people are interested in a Saya no Uta translation? I thought nobody gave a fuck.

I'm in. I can translate at least a little moon, but I know nothing about VN translation. Let me reinstall that shit and let's get this party started. If someone can program this shit I'll translate as much as I can until someone faster comes along.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646709
DON'T DO IT ANON, YOU'LL BECOME SAYA'S DINNER!

[Anonymous No.]

What the hell is this then

http://www.geocities.com/orochi_tetra/sayanouta.txt

[Moogy No.]

>>1646165
The gibberish is meant to be there. It's what the protagonist hears when real people speak.

Funnily enough, Google Translate produces an accurate reinterpretation of the gibberish parts in English. A quick tip for anyone who wants to tackle this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646734
.................sooo

Basically all we need is someone to dump the English into the correct spots in the game file?

[Suika !IbukiozMj2 No.]

>>1646734
GET TO TEXT REPLACING GUYS
Fuck I don't know how to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646734
Poorly translated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646734
If this script turns out to be complete I'm going to facepalm so hard at how epic the failure surrounding this project was.
I remember wondering why the fuck Saya no Uta hasn't been translated yet...ANSWER: FAGGOTS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646763
It's kind of Engrish but I think if someone just edits this for grammar it'll be pretty much the correct translation.

I don't know, I'm downloading the game still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646734
wait, this is the WHOLE script?

[Teus !QbSstcPD6U No.]

>> If this script turns out to be complete
it only covers 2 of the 3 routes, and the quality is very very low.

>>I'm in. I can translate at least a little moon, but I know nothing about VN translation
you don't need to know about VN translation, just the basic skills for proper translation and a lot of time. see http://saya.mirrormoon.org/?q=translators_wanted

[Suika !IbukiozMj2 No.]

>>1646771
I suppose I could try and fix the grammar. 45 pages... Does it matter if I change shit up?
> Thanks to them, I need to put up a good facade of not distrusting them.
Thanks to them? That doesn't really make sense to me, probably because I lack context. This sounds odd, why is "Thanks to them," there?

It seems like if I tried, some of the translated lines here would veer off too much.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry guys, it's just that I was neglecting Crysis to much

[bro.fist)Anonymous No.]

RAGING KEGGER AT ANIKI'S PAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646799
>translation test
If they have a translator skilled enough to determine whether someone's passed the translator test or not, why do they need more translators?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646848
Because not every skilled translator is always willing to take on many hours of work? I dunno, just a thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646828
It's not just the grammar, the translation itself is pretty damn bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646887
>A patch for the game is in the works,
>with my blessings.
>For this, I tried my best to emulate the
>writting style of H.P. Lovecraft (?) and the
>result might not be satisfactory.
>But at least this guro-ero game that
>precede and is better than the infamous
>School Days will now get the audience it deserve.
>There's a high chance that I will continue my
>translation, but I like to get some feedback
>about the game and my translation
>before I pogress.

Looks like Saya ate his knowledge of spelling and verb tenses, while boosting his ability to mangle the English language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647000
wow, I've seen fags but he's a real FAGGOT.
he's basically saying "come suck my cock so I won't get bored translating it into shitty Engrish"

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly never liked Lovecraft's writing style.

[Anonymous Jones ‮[8-FTU] ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !TapsqdZp4A No.]

>>1647019
Seconded. It's not so bad in some of his stories, especially the short ones, but "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath" is practically unreadable.

[Anonymous No.]

So basically no one will translate Saya no Uta because it's too boring? What the hell is boring about guro, demon monster loli, and mind fuck? Sounds like a winning combination that anyone would love, especially the folks at /jp/.

Though, I get the feeling people just want none dark theme games and instead go for the happy feel good games. I guess that is why Wanko to Kurasou was translated...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647072
How can you say that when Gang Rape Club got translated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1646696
Boys' Love?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647072
Saya was just too extreme for them. The translators couldn't take it easy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647087
Gang Rape Club is awesome so far.

And I haven't even bothered to AGTH/ATLAS it yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647087
Going to say the exception to the rule. It's not like you hear about Gang Rape Club on /jp/ or other predominate sites that remotely have VN threads and discussions.

>>1647097
How extreme could it be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647087
I think it's because Nephrinn, the translator, is largely self-motivated. From what I remember reading his old hongfire posts, he picked up translating to improve his Japanese and because he really loved Black Lilith games, enough to want to share them with the English speaking community.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647131
'HHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNGGG' level extreme

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647131

I posted this few days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

http://forums.megatokyo.com/index.php?showtopic=1716728

WELL THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM. Fucker's from MegaTokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

I have:

SAYANOUTA.bin (352MB)
SAYANOUTA.cue (75bytes)

What do I do with these?

[Anonymous No.]

>ぶよぶよと蠢く肉塊が、暗く粘ついた声でそう言った。
The soft, flabby, squirming lump of meat said, with a dark, sticky voice.

>似たような肉塊があと三つ、目の前に並んでいる。テーブルを囲んで、
カップに注がれた汚水をさも美味そうに啜り上げながら、金切り声と呻り声
とそれ以外の奇声を交わしあっている。
Three such meatsacks were lined up in front of my eyes. They were surrounding the table, slurping the sewage that had been poured into their cups as if it were incredibly delicious, and conversing with shrill voices, save for that one strange voice.

Compared to the translation from here: >>1646734

>So goes the the soft wriggling lump of meat in it's muffled distorted voice
>All in all, there are three such lumps rocking back and forth in front of my eyes. All of them are by a table, enjoying cups of brown sticky liquid like exotic tea amongst the symphony of soprano screams, tenor cries and god know what.

tl;dr that translation is riddled with fucking terrible grammar AND inaccuracies. It's like he got the gist of it then just added a bunch of bullshit he made up.

[Anonymous No.]

>ぶよぶよと蠢く肉塊が、暗く粘ついた声でそう言った。
The soft, flabby, squirming sack of meat said, with a dark, sticky voice.

>似たような肉塊があと三つ、目の前に並んでいる。テーブルを囲んで、
カップに注がれた汚水をさも美味そうに啜り上げながら、金切り声と呻り声
とそれ以外の奇声を交わしあっている。
Three such meatsacks were lined up in front of my eyes. They were surrounding the table, slurping the sewage that had been poured into their cups as if it were incredibly delicious, and conversing with shrill voices, save for that one strange voice.

Compared to the translation from here: >>1646734

>So goes the the soft wriggling lump of meat in it's muffled distorted voice
>All in all, there are three such lumps rocking back and forth in front of my eyes. All of them are by a table, enjoying cups of brown sticky liquid like exotic tea amongst the symphony of soprano screams, tenor cries and god know what.

tl;dr that translation is riddled with fucking terrible grammar AND inaccuracies. It's like he got the gist of it then just added a bunch of bullshit he made up.

[Anonymous No.]

>ぶよぶよと蠢く肉塊が、暗く粘ついた声でそう言った。
The soft, flabby, squirming sack of meat said, with a dark, sticky voice.

>似たような肉塊があと三つ、目の前に並んでいる。テーブルを囲んで、
カップに注がれた汚水をさも美味そうに啜り上げながら、金切り声と呻り声
とそれ以外の奇声を交わしあっている。
Three such meatsacks were lined up in front of my eyes. They were surrounding the table, slurping the sewage that had been poured into their cups as if it were incredibly delicious, and conversing with shrill voices, save for that one strange voice.

Compared to the translation from here: >>1646734

>So goes the the soft wriggling lump of meat in it's muffled distorted voice
>All in all, there are three such lumps rocking back and forth in front of my eyes. All of them are by a table, enjoying cups of brown sticky liquid like exotic tea amongst the symphony of soprano screams, tenor cries and god know what.

tl;dr that translation is riddled with fucking terrible grammar AND inaccuracies. It's like he got the gist of it then just added a bunch of bullshit he made up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647544
The second one sounds more Lovecrafty. Is this bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647618
It is when it just completely ignores what is actually written.
I'd rather have an accurate translation first. If someone wants to Lovecraft it up after the fact, be my guest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>1647000
We have
been up
all night,
my friends
and I,
beneath mosque lamps
whose brass cupolas
are bright as our souls,
because like them
they were illuminated
by the internal glow
of electric hearts.
And trampling underfoot our native sloth
on opulent Persian carpets,

[Anonymous No.]

How much of the translation is complete at this point?

[Anonymous No.]

If you had an open translation wiki you wouldn't have a problem finding dedicated translators because you wouldn't need dedicated translators. A hobbyist can come by and do an hour's worth here and there, and rest easy knowing someone will come along and correct his mistakes if he fucks up somewhere and it's no big deal.

It's intimidating to have to pass some test and get let into the secret club. The 5 hours it takes to translate your test could be used on translating that much more of the script.

You're asking for volunteers. Anybody who could read moon well enough to translate this shit fast enough to single-handedly translate the rest of it doesn't give a shit about translating it for the rest of us. You're relying on lazy scum who sometimes want to do a little bit of good.

So why don't you actually open your project up to allow people to help you? If you dumped what was translated of the script I think you'd push the project ahead a lot faster. People can start picking at the script and little by little get it done, instead of dicking around and waiting for someone to pass your ultimate power level test to be allowed to even know which parts aren't completed yet.