/jp/ drawthread

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Improving your skills edition

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>>16459166
What's the point of all this effort when the most succesful artists are animu sameface frauds or low effort cute drawings?

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>>16459196
Not everyone wants to be successful.

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>>16459196
You know why.

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>>16459196
I just want to get to level 4-5. I feel like I'm stuck somewhere between 2-3 now and I'm interested in improving

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>>16459196
The point is that you can't do animu sameface frauds or low effort cute drawings and you're not a successful artist.

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>>16459166
It seems you mistook me for someone who actually puts effort, I'm sorry.

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>>16459344
wow nice, you improved!

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How do I draw paizuri like the pros?

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>>16459166
I'm going to try this guide.

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>>16459420
keep at it, you're doing good

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>>16459166
Fourth mastery Cirno is much sexier than the fifth or sixth, though.

The lesson must be to aim for fourth mastery and give up there.

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>>16459516
That's naizuri.

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>>16459551
Oh I get it. Because there's oppai... NAI.

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>>16459225
same

I can't draw very much now though.

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>>16459439
Just because the 4th drawing is better than the two lasts doesn't means that the artist's point is wrong, try to understand what s/he meant here.

I'd say something like >>16460497 fits the "6th" mastery part in that you give yourself a recognizable style and more interesting way to shade/color. Color theory is also something that sadly too few bothers learning if they even ever heard about it.

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0 - vague idea of shape of human body. No sense of 3d.
1 - better idea of shape of human body. No sense of 3d.
2 - beginners perspective. Uses cylinders as arms and leg. Little anatomy knowledge. Stiff pose.
3 - Better pose. Better anatomy. Little rendering. Better sense of 3d.
4 - More improvement
5 - Ability to draw the body at any perspective and pose
6 - Can draw a realistic cirno. No more relying on cartoon cliches like a mouth that is 100% teeth or tongue. Line weight and minor cross hatching rendering.
7 - Drawing humans interacting with environments with the same fundamentals.
8 - Character interaction. Still can't convey proper gesture and eye contact.
9 - Characters can look at each other but can't draw flesh touching other flesh.
10 - You can draw humans, mechs, animals, and environments.

>>16461161
That image is more like 3rd level combined with learning rendering and painting on the side.

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>>16461317
Well, that OP pic wasn't taking in account rendering/shading in the masteries if anything.

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>>16461317
Not being able to draw people touching each others until the last level sounds too extreme. There are difference levels of mastery for this part as well, it's not just being able to do it or not, depends on the angle too.

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>>16461317
Sanae' real ten desires. To be able to draw like a pro.

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/jp/ - /ic/

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Drawing lewd is the best way to master drawing.

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>>16459166
Man, I wanna fug that Mastery lv.6 Cirno.

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>>16461559
/jp/ - /ic/ for touhous

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>>16461811
And oc.

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For jp.

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>>16461932
A monkey?

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>>16459166
So how long would to take to learn 3rd mastery? A decade?

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>>16462174
> a decade

Don't be silly, much less.

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>>16462186
Six years?

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Drawthread only? No OC? With shitty general opening.

End me.

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>>16462472
Depends a lot how much you study and at what level you begins, but with the good methods and work you could already get at a decent level after 2 years.

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>>16462174
I'm close to 3rd mastery with 3 years of drawing.

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>>16462487
It's just a draw thread that isn't an OC thread. It's like the draw a Touhou threads that usually are up around the time of OC threads.

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>>16462674
OP didn't mention that it wasn't a OC thread though. Would be quite limited without those, that's mostly what jp's drawthread is for touhou aside, other series drawings are more on /a/ or /v/.

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>>16462700
Touhou is a video game, what makes other series more /v/? There's a thousands of other otaku oriented games and VNs people could draw characters of too.

And you're right, they didn't mention it wasn't a thread you could post OCs in. What does it matter? It's a thread for drawing as opposed to a thread for whatever other works like the OC threads are. You could make a thread only for VN projects or a thread only for drawing vocaloids or whatever. There doesn't have to be only one OC thread that has one nature.

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>>16462839
My point was that it's not a "no OC" drawthread, it's a "anything is fine" drawthread.

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>>16462839
>>16462846
And the
> other series drawings are more on /a/ or /v/

Was more as in "other series TENDS to be more on the /a/ and /v/ drawthreads".

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>>16461932
>>16462173
Or an ugly old guy cosplaying maybe.

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>>16462846
Your point is misguided then. The original complaint was that is was a "/jp/ OC/drawthread" with a shitty OP. I was stating that it doesn't have to be one of those, just like there are touhou drawthreads, this can be another drawthread that isn't the Official /jp/ OC/drawthread #xxx

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>>16461932
>>16462874
1. Google what chicken scratching is.
2. Stop doing it.

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>>16463187
Shut up d/ic/k. You try drawing on a phone!

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Anyone whose not redlining anything or posting work needs to get the fuck out of this thread.

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Some OC design doodles.

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>>16463627
sweet. is this for a comic?

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>>16463647
Just for a school work actually.

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>>16463621
Franken Utsuho?

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I want to learn how to draw hair.
Any Tutorials or books?
What do you recomend?

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>>16463669
oh shit, that would be a cool reference

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>>16463655
you should make a small 4koma with the characters. dont let it go to waste. but the woman one has already been done before.

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>>16463669
> Utsuho

Not really. Didn't particularly thought of characters when making them, the theme was a couple of mad scientists and the idea for both came pretty fast.

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>>16463671
Literally, just draw a head with hair. And if it looks like shit, just look at reference to fix it. Dont over think everything.

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>>16463690
> but the woman one has already been done before.

Which character?

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>>16459166
I like this topic. Thank you for including an insightful picture on what to do first and how to go about drawing. Its so valueable i am putting it on my folder that i check in to remind me daily what i need to keep doing to become better.

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>>16463700
... also, just im pretty sure theres a bunch of generic dominatrix women in hentai with an open chest.

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>>16463698
That's not the reply I wanted.

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>>16463621
Looks like Rip Van Winkle from Hellsing but with bigger boobs and a Frankenstein monster screw.

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>>16463716
she's totally different from Meiko, and she's not really a dominatrix type either.

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>>16459196
There is much more to anime drawings than same faces. Some artists are guilty especially Nasu with Arcueid, Saber somewhat in design.

But overall it's harder than you think.

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>>16463709
Yeah. One of the best things you can do is start drawing lots of ecorche people and go ogling anatomy pics. Buts that's only for drawing the figure

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>>16463719
just look at some hair and draw it.

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>>16463627
They also have a cat/daughter , though I didn't draw much of it yet.

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>>16463763
This picture just made me realize that I have a bad habit of abusing the shit out of 15/16 types, with a little 11 thrown in.

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>>16459166
That's actually pretty helpful OP.

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>>16459166
>>16463763
Saved! Thanks for these! This is good reference material for me.

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this was going somehwere until I realised it was 6am

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>>16471137
holy chicken scratch

more and more tiny lines aren't better, drawing is like golf

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>traced
I meant redraw in pic related
Just started to learn drawing last november

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>>16471405
One of my works this month. I feel somewhat accomplished when I compare it to my November drawings.

Been hanging out at flockmod/jp for practice. Sadly, this caused me to exclusively use mouse only. I think I kinda regret it a bit.
I'm just trying to make a shitty doujin right now, since it allows me to draw multiple people in different angles and poses.

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>>16471405
>august
That's not very nice anon.

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>>16471405
I really like that Clownpiece. Can you post the full size?

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>>16463621
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>>16463927
If they had a child does that mean that they
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screwed?

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>>16471405
Looks pretty horrible, but well you gotta start somewhere, hope you git gud soon anon.

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>>16476743
Not so good when it's bigger.

>>16476768
I'm re-reading guides(loomis) right now while making badly drawn doujins. I hope that helps me improve in a way. I can't believe that the "Just keep drawing" meme is actually true, since I'm noticing some improvements lately.

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>>16476995
I like the big version, the lighting is very atmospheric. And the eyes are great.
Drawing a doujin is intense and would be a great exercise to improve, plus you're the only one who can make the stories in your head real. What are they about?
>>16476768
Gesture sketches are the way to go for improving body structure quickly.
A friend of mine did gesture sketches 1 hour every day for a year and she's improved far more than I have in 5 years.


Keep working hard everyone!
I drew Popee the performer.

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>>16476995
Just like playing touhou, you never clear the spell cards perfectly the first time you do them.

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>>16477066
Good analogy!

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>>16477061
>What are they about?
Anything I want to do. Some examples are:
>>16451743 (This is a rushed work, it's much better now when I redrew it)
http://is2.4chan.org/a/1485436112175.png
Also pic related, which is a work in progress.

Those are just samples of my work this week. Drawing these really seemed like a challenge, and I like it better than the usual exercises. I'm always tempted to try different poses and angles until I get them right, which I fail most of the time. Right now, I'm still below-average.


>>16477066
You're right. I didn't know it could be imagined like that.

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A snail. I hope to do more. Programming is hard though... but I gotta keep going. Lua is straight forward enough to keep going I think. I've seen godot but its language is weird and with something like LOVE at least it doesn't overwhelm me. If I need to add something I write it down which helps me understand.

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>>16477203
That's preddy good. However, you're right about programming.
Keep working hard. Nothing can get in the way of good old fashioned hard work.

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Good news jaypee.

Japanese scientists invented a software to automatically color lineart.

http://paintschainer.preferred.tech/

In a few years, you won't even have to draw

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>>16478382
Very nice tool anon.

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>>16478382
I can't get it to work.

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>>16476995
>I can't believe that the "Just keep drawing" meme is actually true
Getting good at things is now considered as a meme?

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>>16478382

I think I must be doing something wrong, it doesn't like my images.

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This is my starting point. I want to make a habit of this.

Rate my drawing of a rock.

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>>16481212
That's a nice rock, anon.
Avoid sketchy lines. Try to make yourself confident with single strokes.

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>>16481928
Th-thanks. I'll keep drawing 2hus until they aren't hairy.

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>>16481212
Put in more effort perfecting and cleaning up your lineart.
You aren't going to improve unless you push yourself.

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>>16460497
Great pic, as always.
Could you perhaps post some kind of styp-by-step of how you do values and shading? I'm trying to learn more in that area.

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>>16463627
Pretty good, even if they're not the most original designs ever. You're very influenced by Hirano Kouta, huh?

>>16479378
People that don't put in the proper time and work love to deny the facts.

Some anatomy sketches and face shenanigans.

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>>16478382
someone teach me how to make this work. It only turns to horrible blobs if I do anything than let it auto color

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>>16477176
You should probably read up on how to construct a page first.
That small, messy panels on the bottom right? Yeah, that's a big NO.
Also, plan in advance. If you can compress an event into a single panel, do it. Don't drag it out just for the sake of dragging it out. The exception being if you planned on doing a spread page.

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>>16500110
Thanks for the advice. I got too used to messy panels since I've been doing a lot of 1-page-only stuff.

I never would have realized it if you didn't point it out.

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>>16463927
What do you do to get those white highlights? White pencil crayons?

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>>16507763
not him but probably toned canson paper + white charcoal pencil

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Other than Loomis Figure Drawing how do I start drawing? What should I read before I try drawing anything?

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Since you guys are like casual version of ic. Im just going to write a one stop guide to being successful in art like one of my classic rants on ic.

1.) Build a good reference library. Im going to be honest, as someone who has a collection of over 15 figure drawing books, the only ones you need are atlas of human anatomy by peck, and figure drawing by loomis. The rest, you can get by searching specific things from google or pinterest, like knee anatomy or head angles. But that is only for drawing the figure and and anatomy, you want to always have a collection of reference of everything on your computer for things like mechs, trees, cat girls, etc. Figure drawing is not the final frontier. Its just a humanist niche that holds lots of popularity.

2.) the golden rule of improving is to start small and grow large. For instance, if you're a complete noob to drawing, the best thing you can do is to start by mastering how to draw hands. Keep grinding and grinding. Youre not aiming for perfection, just that comfy feeling where if someone told you right now to draw a hand at any angle or pose, you could pull off one. After about 2 days or so, you can move onto the arms. Speed is Key.

3.) and the same can be said for painting. So many people act like being able to pull off a sakimichan painting is impossible, but thats because they look at the painting as a whole. You got to break it down into small parts. Be able to paint eyes like sakimichan, before you can paint eyes + the nose + the mouth like saki.

4.) Think about what you want. Many of you will go down this path: youll create a donut steel character and story, but realize no one wants to read it. So you resort to drawing fanart to get a fanbase. Now, this will definitely help get one. But is this what you want? When there is one day a wikipedia article about you, do you want it to write that your comic was shit and people only read it because you drew porn, or do you want the writing to speak for itself? Some people just want to perfect art and not want to create a story, but for others, its opposite. Keep this in mind before you go all out autistic.

5.) Networking is mix between good marketing and chance. The best thing you can do is enter contests, interact with other artists, or just be a god at painting fanart. Study the trends and memes of devianart, instagram, tumblr, and youtube etc. Dont be discourage if you're not an overnight success, but always aim to be one.

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>>16508115
>sakimichan
No thanks.

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>>16508115
>do you want it to write that your comic was shit and people only read it because you drew porn
YEAH!

I want to be the #1 ero doujin artist.

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>>16481928
>>16482310

Am I improving? Am I gonna make it, /jp/?

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I'm not satisfied with my shading, none of the brushes I make get the right results.

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>>16509378
the perspective of the face and proportion feels off
the hair and ear feels misplaced
the cheek feels flat
needs more detail. dont just stop with the sketch. You should work with a darker line color
draw the whole body

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>>16509402
first you have to acknowledge that the anatomy and perspective itself is really off and needs to go back to sketch layer.

Also, you need to look at clothing folds and hair more to get a since of the render. It looks like the batman suit.

When you shade the clothing, FEEL the map of the shadow, know where the fold goes and how it affects the countor. Use lighting and highlights to give a better since of detail.

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>>16509416
Thanks.

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>>16509409
My sketch was the result of a few hours of drilling the basic geometry of the head and imagination. I don't really know how to use my media, yet and I don't know anything about drapery or hair so the hat/hair were just kind of hastily tacked on.

I'll keep practicing the basics. Thanks for the very specific and constructive feedback.

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>>16509425
yeah, show me some results when you're done

>>16509493
if you want to practice basic geometry, id look into mech building.

Believe it or not, youlll be able to draw a head 5x better than that one and in 5 mins one day if you keep at it.

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>>16508115
Wow, thanks. Gonna copy-paste this.
Although, most of us probably don't want to get famous and just want to draw our waifus in peace

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>>16509689
>Believe it or not, youlll be able to draw a head 5x better than that one and in 5 mins one day if you keep at it.

Whoa. That's an expression of confidence.

I wanna get to where my art is good enough to exchange for tendies and maybe make indie games that aren't pixel garbage.

Is that unlikely? Will I die of starvation? I don't think I'm far along enough on the spectrum for NEETbux. I'm a diagnosed sperg.

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>>16509781
This is where my knowledge lies short. All i can say is you have to be active committees and look for opportunities. And try to search a commissioner out. /v/ probably has a bunch of knowledge in indie game development.

Also, going back to my 4th point >>16508115 if character design is all you seek, you dont have to have much technical skill in drawing perse. *caugh* zun *caugh*

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>>16509724
thanks. Am more of a shitposter than drawer, but i do make an original comic on the side

I can not emphasize this enough: the best way to get good at drawing the figure is tons of ecorche practice.

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>>16508115
>the only ones you need are atlas of human anatomy by peck, and figure drawing by loomis.
Can I forget about "human anatomy by peck" and use loomis instead?
I'm having a hard time pirating it. All the download links are either fake or survey shit

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>>16511030
There's a vk link on the second page of google for me that works. Those Russians are pretty good when it comes to things like this.

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>>16511066
Oh, wow. Thanks.

My eyes went over Книги по урокам рисования for some reason. I never even considered reading the description until you told me.

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>>16478520
Sanae is an uncircumcised c*ck?

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Is doing a course in animation in a community college worth it?

I've been a Neet for nearly 2 years now and everything is so hopeless I'm considering going back to eduaction and wondering if it's worthwhile to get into a animation course.

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>>16512850
Do what you want anon. At least you would be doing something other than considering going to Gensokyo.
Who knows, it might be just what you need to turn your life around.

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>>16512850
Depends if you're self motivated or not.

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>>16512850
nah. If you're going back to college, get a sweet ass business degree and get a lil japanese wife.

Used to want to be animator myself. You have to be really dedicated to the mechanics of drawing the figure; no painting or storytelling whatsoever.

First thing you want to do is educate yourself on douga(in betweens) and genga(keyframes).
Next, you learn about timining charts and layers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=994XdcIP9K0

The rest is studying and studying anime in general like how to give skirts and butts momentum. I say follow this:

1. Learn how to animate expressions and talking
2. Upperbody gesture movements
3. Full body and hentai sex moves
4. Walking and interaction
5. Extreme action scenes

Lots of people use clipstudio to animate, i use old school adobe flash. But eventually, learn to animate traditionally.

Heres my portfolio for reference http://naoiswatchingyouportfolio.blogspot.com/ its abandon now though
Its funny looking back how i sacrificed the quality of the drawing just for animating it, and hope you dont do the same.

Also, heres gaijins that made it as nihon animators for inspiration.
American Guy http://henrythurlow.tumblr.com
Austrian Guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc_y3eAgIcI <---- This guy was self taught btw

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>>16512931
>>16512948
I'm actually not interested in animation at all though. I only like drawing manga and it seems that an animation course is the closet thing to drawing manga. If possible, I would actually prefer to study Japanese in college but I'm too broke and I already spent my one time grant getting a bachelor in a degree I despise.

I can probably sludge it trudge an animation course out to the end since I've been through worse. I don't want to end up wasting a year in something that turns out that I don't like or is actually completely useless other than for personal projects.

I could go and try to get a master/diploma in IT if I go back to a proper college. I feel like those are the only courses useful for a socially awkward person. I have no talent or interest in programming at all though while I'm decent in drawing.

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>>16513022
do whatever you want
we're not interested in your life story

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>>16513022
Never forget:

Niggas like him >>16513030 don't give a fuck.

So damn hard.

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>>16512948
Do you you focus only on drawing now?

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>>16513022
Show us your work, senpai.

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>>16513022
>I only like drawing manga
Then do that. You don't have to draw amazing to make a comic, just tell a good story or jokes. You can do anything from getting in a newspaper to getting money from kickstarter and selling books. If you feel like your weeb looking stuff wouldn't be accepted offline, remember Boondocks, one of the most weeb looking comics, has been running in the newspaper for a long time and even got a TV series animated by a Japanese studio.

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>>16513022
>closet thing to drawing manga
I dont know what to say. Thats kind of pretty retarded desu. I mean... are you only taking the class in hopes you get some qt art gf or something? Because you probably wont learn anything you cant learn at home, college, especially are classes, are full of sjws, and itll just demotivate you more probably.

>only courses useful for a socially awkward person
Dont be such a bitch. If you like programming, then pursue it, if not, choose something else. There are a fair number of people who make it business and politics who just kept themselves and have good formal skills. And besides, I actually had to hang around a few number of stem field assholes myself, they act just like normies, and unless you are some straight A 4.5 GPA MiT grad, you're going to need social skills to succeed in life.

>>16513084
I try to do 4koma azumanga daioh-like comics now(pic), and hope that one of them takes off one day. (its hasn't)

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>>16459166
Is the level 0 drawing of Cirno what it should look like when beginners draw without any practice? [spoiler I feel like my art looks worse than that usually [/spoiler]

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>>16513148
Do you do it in Japanese because you'll trying to learn the language? Or is it for posting on Nip websites?

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>>16513335
actually, ive seen worse than level 0 from people irl who try to draw intentionally good. Lots of people think the reason why people stay stuck at level 0 is because they never aim for realism, i say its more that people always draw the same 3/4 view and same body type. You have to mix it up. level 0 actually maintains proportions and has no warped perspective. Its just the form is awful. like i said here >>16508115 start with something basic like drawing eyes or mouth at different angles as realistic as possible. And yes, i do im a hypocrite when i draw shit like:
>>16513384
I just posted it on twitter. Im learning japanese, and at the time, i just thought it would be funnier to have crappy japanese mixed in with crappy art and weird humor sort of like a dolan comic. Unfortunately, when i showed it to my japanese friend, he said the text was too small to even read. This was actually an old comic tho, and im way pass the cringy humor. Can't say I improved much with art, but, i rather just have something legit funny to read, then the art just being pretty to look at.

Am going to leave this thread and never comeback now because my blogposting is beyond cancer level. But the translation of the comic is:

>Oh look, a cat girl
>Kawaii cat girl I recommend you marry me. Okay.
>My liitle boy has finally grown
>heh, and the internet said i couldn't do it.
>And thats why interacial sex is wrong

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>>16513486
Thanks anon

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>>16513092
Here's my oc character's wearing guru guru outfits

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I tried.

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This is incomplete and I'm not sure if I should continue drawing... but what level am I anyway?

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I made a Suwako and alien 9 crossover for someones birthday.

>>16509781
>make indie games that aren't pixel garbage.
embrace it!

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>>16519153
Naice. I like this pixel art.

If I could do good pixel art, I would use it in a game. Gotta learn basics first.

>>16517248
Koish has brain problems like me.

>>16516234
That's a very menacing yoomoo. Has an expression like, "fuck with me and I'll jam a ballpoint pen into your trachea".

>Have to solve like five captchas to post. Three of them contain just a single STOP sign.
I think I'm going to quit posting for a while.

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>>16459166
I'm new here, I don't get what that image means by lvl0-1 (on specific focus points). I mean what the levels between mastery levels are. And how do I tell if I am at inter-level 1 vs inter-level 2?

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>>16463252
You first.

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>>16516234
Pretty nice dork dude.It came out nicely. She grew up before I realized it...
>>16519153
I wish my birthday cakes were burgers. Good job m'dude.

I tried to make some sort of original Parsee-design, but I'm afraid I stripped her of too many core aspects and made her hard to recognize.

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>>16463621
Inked/tweaked/color this page.

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making the aiming wasn't so hard. now to just make the sprites and I think everything will be ready to move on. Some code confuses me but it's not so bad now.

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It's been a long while, /jp/! Have a Ebony without the child support. I got a lot of work to do on my anatomy.

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>>16520161
someone pls

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>>16459166
At what level do you draw Cirno's wings correctly?

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>>16520161
>>16524386


I think it's essentially saying practice makes perfect. It seems completely arbitrarily but it is right about perspective and understanding the basics being very important. Draw a horizon line with a vanishing point and then draw some cubes based on that point.

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>>16524503
Then what is the point of the intermediate numbers

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>>16524569

You can't improve by just drawing cubes for those 10,000 minimum required hours.

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>>16524667
Yeah but what do the numbers MEAN
Do I just measure my picture and go "yep, that looks like a 1.7"?????

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>>16524729

Forget the list it's stupid. Just practice and be honest to yourself. If the drawing sucks tell yourself it's bad but most importantly know _why_ it is bad. IT's a process of learning from mistakes to not make them again and to be more accurate in future.

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>>16522490
Goddamn it pal, you got me with this design. I probably could say something negative but that would be dishonest since this hit very close to my fetishes
Just one very important thing: needs longer, slender legs.
also, expect fanart soon.

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>>16525821
don't listen to him give yourself to THICC

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>>16524373
I won't pretend like I could do better and I don't want to discourage you. But that is legitimately disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16517248
Probably about mid level. I've seen worse touhou doujinshi.

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>>16508115
>sakimichan
Gross. Why would anyone look up to that Disney-looking trash?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16528487
Money, popularity

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I could draw.

I'd make enough ero doujinshi to fill a swimmimg pool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16531228
If you were really motivated enough to make enough doujinshi to fill a pool then you should be motivated enough to train.

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>>16531228
>>16531271
Honestly if he drew enough ero doujinshi to fill a swimming pool, he could just start with stick figures and work his way up. Pure grinding would at least make him on par with Yassy.

[Anonymous No.]

>bokusatsu deleted his tumblr
We lost another one. damn.

[Anonymous No.]

made a sprite and have it aim around. will work more on it tomorrow.

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>>16531576
/jp/poster?

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>>16531656

of course, unless you mean someone specifically then no.

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>>16531680
I thought I was in /vg/'s agdg, whoops

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>>16531712

I may be /jp/ poster to the agdg people.

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>>16531729
I didn't mean it as a name, just as "poster who also posts in /jp/"

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>>16531576
Looking good. Looking forward to tomorrow!
also,
>>16531680
I have a soft spot for this froggo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16532078
Woah this is so weird I'm not used to shoot-em-ups with such a wide field of play

almost every game I've ever seen is closer to 9:16 for the playable area rather than 16:9

[Anonymous No.]

>>16532228
There's some "wide vertical smups" (like Giga Wing or Mars Matrix) but those are rare exceptions. I feel often like breaking a taboo while making a shmup with high resolution and wide aspect ratio. On the other hand it feels so natural so it does not bother me that much.

And the best thing is that I have more space for more bullets.

[Anonymous No.]

I found a really clever way to figure out how to move the character making a function that moves and multiplies by the 'scale' factor of the character (1 is right -1 is left) although there's a few things I wish I could optimize a bit because it's tedious to even look at. I think a jumping animation, crouching, and adding some bullets may be all he needs to get going. Although changing the state includes changing the hitbox which shan't be too troublesome.

>>16532078
thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

I have never sat down and drawn anything before but I drunkenly purchased a drawing tablet. How did I do? What can I improve besides everything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16533592
I shamelessly used >>16520660 as a reference.

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>>16533592
bad, as expected of anyone who has no experience of drawing

When you need to improve everything you should just pick up a recommended starting art book

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>>16533592
You did everything wrong, but you're supposed to, as you just started.

Visit /ic/'s beginner thread and just start with some basic fundamentals involving pen and line control as well as basic construction.

There's no need to go into deeper issues yet (such as the fact that your face takes up 80% of the head) until you learn that.

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>>16459166
I came to this board looking for an angry jap face, but this is really nice information OP. It makes sense to begin with simple concepts and work your way up, in despite of your desire to just jump right into the human bits. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

got bullets working. forgot how to make diagonals not move so fast. I think I gotta normalize the vector or like adjust the magnitude but I dunno how I'd do it in love2d because in unity you could just call a function. I suppose it doesn't matter too much for now. it also uses the move vector to offset its spawn position. it's not perfect but it's good enough that I think it will work in game format.

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>>16480050
I think you just took a spirit photo of someones aura.

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>>16535591
0.7071
http://www.fundza.com/vectors/normalize/
also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine#Relation_to_the_unit_circle

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>>16536019

ah, I see now. sin(45). Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody here good at recognizing brushes?

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>>16536867
That just looks like a standard round brush with pressure set to opacity.

I don't use a tablet so I'm talking out my ass.

[Anonymous No.]

I've jumped on the kemono friends bandwagon

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>>16537454
After spending so long on this I realized I drew Jaguar instead of Ocelot! I'm so embarrassed.

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>>16537454
>>16537477
Okay, fixed.

[Anonymous No.]

got off my ass and drew something for once

[Anonymous No.]

>>16537693
also inked an older picture of Okuu that I liked

[Anonymous No.]

>>16537702
you remind me i should draw her sometime

this is the only okuu i've ever drawn but i've doodled the same thing multiple times

[Anonymous No.]

>>16537702
you remind me i should draw her for real sometime

this is the only okuu i've ever drawn but i've doodled it multiple times

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>>16537895
thats cute, but yes lets see what you can do

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>>16537592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y897tozJeg8

[Anonymous No.]

i tried to draw 2 but i am still a 1

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>>16478382
the fug

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>>16478382
the fug

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>>16538333
Go through those practice objectives mr. triple man. You have some potential

[Anonymous No.]

Even after weeks of practice I feel that I'm still trash. Should I just give up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16540197
No, but try other methods of approach. Go look at different art styles and see if you can practice drawing that style.

[Anonymous No.]

Will fix the jump sprite later. Had to fiddle a lot because I had to separate all the animation logic from the movement code I eventually made a giant if statement that checks for a, w, and d key presses to make it running. probably not perfect but it seems to be working well and there's really not much else in terms of player controls I'll be doing for now. something I would like to have in the future is walking up and down slopes but I don't really know how to do it.

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>>16541171
Really diggin the contra clone. Don't give up

[Anonymous No.]

>>16537702
Continuing to ink my older drawings, I'm probably gonna color some of them soon

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>>16541580

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>>16541171
What's the process you use to make your sprites? I don't mean program but like the progression. I want to try something but not sure how to go about doing the sprites other than just drawing.

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>>16542278

I sketched them out then did a simple small color painting of one. then I did the full running sprite (the left and right one) and from that I split it into legs and body.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope I'm getting somewhere with my colouring

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>>16522490
Continuing that with the husband and daughter sheets.

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>>16544944

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>>16544947
Dude, this is literally Okita.

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>>16547069
dis

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>>16544947
cute

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>>16547069
I wanted to add a daughter and when I heard I needed to do a pet I couldn't feel like doing anything else. Okita was pretty much Fran's "handsome" assistant/bro so it's not really the same dynamic either. Makes me think I can't seems to remember at all that he got any backstory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16548984
Draw me Veronica.

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>>16537693
>>16537702
Solid stuff, fumobro

[Anonymous No.]

I tried yesterday, /jp/.
For a friend's birthday

[Anonymous No.]

>>16544730
pretty cool. reminds me of (pic)
>>16559630
nice.

Anyone got any guides in 4koma WRITING?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16560200
exposition, setup, climax, punchline?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16560200
Make sure to clearly explain the joke. e.g. "they're my eggs"

[Anonymous No.]

>>16559630
awsome sketch

were you that drawfag complaining about chronic arm pains?
feeling better?

[Anonymous No.]

I recently found an old flash drive that yume nikki and similar games on it.
Played through all of them.
Fuck there was even a guide in the flash drive that I made.
Anyway, have a doodle of Sabitsuki

[Anonymous No.]

Trying to get slopes work. I mean they work... but not how I want. I'm using the code form this answer http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/23312/45-slopes-in-a-tile-based-2d-platformer

the y1 = y + (x1 - x) * (v / u) one but it seems to be iffy.

http://pastebin.com/zMKD3bQg

I don't really get it.

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>>16564639
Just say it's an indie game and that the poor controls are part of the challenge. Wink knowingly at anyone who questions you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16564686

No! I refuse to make subpar products!

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>>16564639
It looks like you just didn't move it over far enough

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>>16564777

I'm not sure what to do... any time I adjust any of the numbers it breaks.

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>>16564944
I suppose it's starting when it detects the edge on the right or center of its hitbox. Try making it detect further over. Don't know if you want it right on the left edge where it should descend on its vertex or slightly over more.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, I wish I still was able to get drunk. alcohol simply doesn't have any effect anymore

[Anonymous No.]

I think I solve my slope problem I had to minus the box's height from the movement. although I am doing boxheight -1 otherwise it doesn't hit the slope's collision.

Of course when I go to implement it for real it will probably be its own unique hitbox underneath the player that checks for this because the hitbox of the slop would have to be underneath the actual slope or else hitting it might ruin trying to jump and land on a slope...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16574858
although now I have no idea how to reference my tiles... I followed some video so I might need to watch it again. tables in lua are useful but it's getting to the point where it's tables within tables and it's confusing me.

[Anonymous No.]

First time drawing
I feel like killing myself

[Anonymous No.]

>>16574858
Lua is good for scripting but for making a game? I think you should just ditch Love. Even Actionscript3 is better and many times easier than making a game with Love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16478382
Fucking neat.

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>>16576184
I don't see why that would make a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16576152
That is some manly looking physics anon. You should try draw men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16576548
miko is a prince

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>>16576152
If this is really your first time drawing i'd say you're off to a pretty good start honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have that roulette pic where you draw the 2hu your post number landed on?

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>>16578309

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>>16578309
>>16578927

I made a Hard mode version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16552947
thanks, I'll color some of them soon
>>16578927
give me something good

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>>16578927
How will this be changed by the next game I wonder

[Anonymous No.]

>>16578936
But those character are easier to draw

[Anonymous No.]

Should I practice drawing full bodies or just focus on specific parts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16579400
practice individual parts, then combine them into a full body

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>>16579020
It was more hard mode for me since it was hard to come up with 100 non-Windows characters. As you can see, I failed.

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>>16579619
Do the exact opposite of this

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>>16579619
>>16580306

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>>16580947
do both if you haven't found anyone else in the world wide web with credible skills to help you.

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>>16561673
I'm feeling better already! Not good enough to draw daily though.

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>>16537702
finished coloring it last night

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>>16576184
This is why I use lua. trying to get sfml to work for c++ is an absolute nightmare and it always ends in misery for me and I can't stand to ever look at the phrase 'mingw32' ever again!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16585985
Tbh really doesn't matter what language / libraries / engine you use if you make 2d games. Use that what makes you get the shit done.

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>>16586067
>using python to loop through and operate on 1000 bullet objects
haha nope

[Anonymous No.]

I drew a short work for a manga competition 4 months ago.
It's only 8 pages long but it took me 20 days to finish. You can read it here if anybody's interested.

http://qchrollofer.com/7dream/7dream.html

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>>16586555
If you can't do it, it doesn't mean that no one could.

also, who are you quoting?

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>>16588500
Python is slow as shit dudester.

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>>16589402
You can use libraries ( or write your own ) with Python which are basically events/sound/etc wrapper written in C (pygame is SDL wrapper iirc). You can also use library wrapped around OpenGL (pyglet) and achieve hardware-accelerated rendering.

Is Python slow at runtime or in developement? I think script languages are good for ex. writing game logic.

If you try do same things with Python and C you can't blame the language. You are just using tools wrong.

If you just want to do games without messing with different technologies and tools I think unity / game maker -like "engines" are for you then.

All languages have pros and cons and you can't do everything with every tool out there. However game development is often compromises with time, money and knowledge. You can also work around of many technical restriction by designing your game differently.

I just wanted to say "make the game with tools you can be productive" in my earlier post. I'd love to play those games someday.

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>>16589824
Python is slow if you do the bulk of your processing actually in python rather than some bindings to a C library. I was taking a machine learning class (classification algorithms), and the python solutions were an order of magnitude slower than the ones from compiled languages (like haskell) once the algorithms weren't just "do a bunch of dot products and do some minor processing on the result".

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>>16590229
But I should also mention that Haskell is terrible for game development just because there are no good game frameworks or engines that use Haskell. Python would be much better.

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>>16587459
The backgrounds and the tones look quite nice. Also good effort
Did you win?

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>>16592521
Is that a twintails fort I see?

[Anonymous No.]

painted some seaweed. You might see something soon enough! gonna be some exclusive jp content.

[Anonymous No.]

Perspective is fucking my shit up hardcore

[Anonymous No.]

>>16598504
Everything fucks up my shit hardcore

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>>16578936
rolling

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>>16599672
I hope I read the roll sheet right

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>>16578927
I guess I'll roll

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>>16578927
I'm going to attempt to model one of these 2hus in 3d. I'll share the inevitable train wreck with you guys at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16598504
take a page and tape it to your table, and put your vanishing points outside the paper

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>>16597999
sugoi

[Anonymous No.]

First time doing this shit. pls r8 ^_^ also
How to feet?

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>>16600294

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>>16600309
ironic about what?

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>>16600327
Your daddy told you not to be ashamed of your chatspeak, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16600414
It's not my problem if you are having problems deciphering my posts. Stop being such an elitist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16600433
/jp/ exists for the sole purpose of elitism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16600433
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>16592521
I was naive to think I could get top10 at least.
I didn't even get into the top 50. The Top 50 get to have their work displayed on the website.
It turned out what I was labouring on was actually a 20 long day proof on how I don't have the talent, skill or sense to draw manga.

The competition's called Silent Manga Audition. It's one of the few major international manga competition I know of. There was around 500 entries for the one I entered. I looked at previous entries form last competitions and everyone's art is at the level of real manga art standards. The art level all looks like they're professional illustrators already working in the industry.

My drawing skill's pretty weak in general so I composed it mostly of backgrounds by filtering and tracing photos. I composed the non-existent plot around using photos I took so I could quickly produce detailed backgrounds with photoshop.

That's the last time I want to draw some meaningless work for something. There was the chance of winning a trip to Japan I really envied and a couple of consolidation prizes plus the recognition you would get. Too bad there's always going to be a thousand more talented and successful human beings entering it. If I was one of those type of artists I wouldn't be a hikineet in the first place.

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>>16601976
Don't give up, you won't make it if you can't slog through your practice even when your eyes and brain are telling you that you are bad and that you will never make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16601976
Don't get yourself down. Getting better is only a matter of how much time and effort you put into your drawings; the more you draw the better you get so long as you are aware of your faults and aim to improve. If there's one thing you should be proud of it's the fact that you've actually seen something through from start to finish. Motivation, for me at least, is a lot harder to cultivate than drawing skill. I've tried to make over a dozen oneshots and I always fizzle out somewhere down the line and scrap the whole thing.

And personally, I feel like you're being too hard on yourself. There may be a thousand people better than you at any point in your studies but that doesn't mean your work is worthless by comparison. Never sell yourself short. If anything, treat the competition as a learning experience. You may not be pleased with your work, but it's a milestone all the same, and if it looks like shit then that's all the reason to get better.

If the competition served as motivation to draw then you should treat it just as that. Put the rewards and rankings out of your mind and put pen to paper and keep drawing. Don't neglect your studies of course but don't lose that drive to get better at drawing what you want to draw.

[Anonymous No.]

Meant to draw a more thin and lithe loli character but I had too much fun with the short and stumpy look.

>>16597999
Are you the jellyfish game anon? It feels like it's been forever since I last saw your work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16603427
He posts a lot, even in this thread, he just does so much stuff it's hard to keep track.

[Anonymous No.]

I tried the other day, /jp/. For a friend's birthday.

>>16603427
Cute, I like the two middle ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16604438
I love the coloring and the way you draw the shoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16604438
I really enjoy looking at your art.
Which artists are your inspirations?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16604438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzkclEo-B34

[Anonymous No.]

Condensed version.

>>16604849
Whoa.

>>16604474
>>16604485
I have many inspirations, but for these pieces I'd say Kawayoo, Tokiya, and probably Hekoko.

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>>16601976
Some of the backgrounds give me that Inio Asano vibe, but the characters are really and strangely off.

But don't worry - the 'creative blindness' is something that you get past with more feedback and putting more works out there. You can step back & evaluate your work more objectively once you've distanced yourself from it enough.

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>>16601976
>I don't have the talent, skill or sense to draw manga

Honestly fuck you. Even if you disagree you clearly have more skill than most. I wish I had that kind of ability. I hate it when people with talent like you act like they have none. Keep trying

[Anonymous No.]

I want Wriggle to wriggle on me

[Anonymous No.]

>>16604899
>>16604438
Is she drinking her own eggs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16607668
Isn't that that weird stuff californians drink with the tofu or tapioca or whatever in it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16608666
Really looks like frog eggs to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>16605268
Whether I like it or not, Asano and I am hero guy influences my drawings since punpun and I am Hero are one of the few manga I read. There's this series on how manga artists draw called Manben, you should check it out. There's an episode on Asano and the I am Hero artist. Hanazawa's episode was disappointing but Asano's one is pretty good on photoshopping.

Nowadays, I've moved away from doing detailed backgrounds. Spending all the time looking and searching for references makes drawing scenes a lot less enjoyable. I've gone for shoujo type art where I just draw characters and panel my page freely. That type of panelling gives more freedom and creativity instead of boxes. You can just diagonal line wherever and it gives a bit of lax to drawing.

What's the strangely off bit. Is it the faces or the characters don't integrate to the background enough?

>>16605273
2 years ago my art looked really unacceptable and wonky. Being a hikineet is the secret to getting better if you like to know. It also comes with the cost of mental degradation. You draw manga all day because life is empty and your own manga is the only way to see your own fantasies come through. It's a good therapy to immerse yourself away from life.

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>>16608835
So does that stuff

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>>16608945
milk tea is more of a pale opaque coffee/milk color with black tapioca rather than green and translucent

could just be aloe vera drink or something idk

[Anonymous No.]

>>16609061
Nah I also think it's probably Bubble Tea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16578927
Roll!

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>>16609126
Rolled a Sanae,
Not sure if it's consider safe or unsafe, but I'll be doing this...
But I can't guarantee I will complete it soon..

[Anonymous No.]

>>16578927
I'm going to roll and end up not drawing anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16609272
Draw Miko, kisama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16609305
Okay. I'll post it later.

[Anonymous No.]

How far am I, /jp/? I still have problems drawing poses without at least one visual reference and my shading is all solid lines. This was the first drawing I've been satisfied coloring. Poses and human anatomy is no problem for me but I have a problem with some shirts. Sometimes I feel like I give them too many folds and it ends up looking too rugged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16609597
>This was the first drawing I've been satisfied coloring
umm

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that you can still host images remotely and link them for the time being.

[Anonymous No.]

How far am I, /jp/? I still have problems drawing poses without at least one visual reference and my shading is all solid lines. This was the first drawing I've been satisfied coloring. Poses and human anatomy is no problem for me but I have a problem with some shirts. Sometimes I feel like I give them too many folds and it ends up looking too rugged.

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>>16609622
Sorry, Internet is shit right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>16609625
>Sorry, Internet is shit right now
, he said, doing the Impossible

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>>16609622
The eyes are off. I'm sure you know this, but you didn't place them in the same areas of the head. Left eye should be far more towards the center of the head, especially since she's tilted to the right.

Her legs are too long. Her ankle is about a foot long.

Hair is done well though, except for that weird little tuft at the bottom which doesn't connect to anything.

>Sometimes I feel like I give them too many folds and it ends up looking too rugged.

I agree. Your skirt pleats aren't really what happens in real life. The most egregious one is on the left side where it doesn't do anything

I think the shirt looks odd too, but mostly due to the buttons. I can see what you were going for around her breasts, but shirts don't fold that way and it looks odd.

I think the socks are cutely frumped though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16607668
>>16608666
>>16608835
>>16608945
>>16609061
>>16609080

Ohno I forgot to put milk in it; it's supposed to be green-tea flavored bubble milk tea with pearls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16578927
Rolling

[Anonymous No.]

>>16610675
Dammit, rorring again

[Anonymous No.]

>>16608893
Can you post some of your stuff from 2 years ago?

[Anonymous No.]

This isn't finished yet but is there anything I can do to improve the lineart?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16611043
fix her knees. They're turned in but her feet are straight. For her knees to be like that, she should either be pigeon toed or doing this http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=knees_together_feet_apart but she's doing neither of those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16611088
Would this be alright?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16611132
It looks better.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's one. this page haunted me for months that I went back to liquify it in photoshop to get the man to look less deviantart. The re-edited page I have on my website is a bit better but still terrible. There's only so much you can abuse with the liquify tool.

You can read it here and it's my first ever original work I drew in life:
http://qchrollofer.com/1aliador/chapter1/chapter1.html

Here's my second work and my faourite work. Drawings got a lot better and by then I had over 7 months of non-stop drawing as a fresh hikineet. It's much easier to have a pencil art look good. When you ink something, it loses out some aspects of the original feel and look. And when it's inked really amateurly it looks like it's done with ms paint. It's embarrassing when I look back at it since there's parts I think I've done a bit too sappy.

http://qchrollofer.com/2sheena/sheena1/sheena1.html

A lot of people seem to just post drawings rather then stories they drew. I'm not a huge fan of art so I started out by throwing myself right into the thick of drawing stories. I spend most of my waking life just drawing so of course a person like that will improve. Even a monkey can improve with how mentally ill and stubborn I am. I even learnt the html course on codeacademy all for the sake of displaying my manga on my own website and I absolutely hate touching mumble jumble techspeak.

[Anonymous No.]

Meant to quote
>>16610929
>>16611573

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>>16594570
Yeah boi

[Anonymous No.]

Tried something fun today.

I was supposed to draw all that gear on her stand on the right, but it was way too late when I thought about it and I didn't want to erase and (most likely) mess it all up.

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>>16578927
Let's see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16578927
ゴロンゴロン

[Anonymous No.]

>>16617809
I keep picturing Benben with a kansai accent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16617899
These markers aren't too great

[Anonymous No.]

>>16616908
Glad to see you're still around.
I love your art. its so lewd...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16617984
Are you sure you're not mistaking me for another anon? I don't remember posting anything in these threads for months. Thanks anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

I drew a Flan!

Just in time to see the thread die!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16620464
You just made me realize I've gone the entire lifespan of this thread without drawing anything.

I need help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16620786
Well, the thread is still alive, isn't it?

Get to drawing.

[Anonymous No.]

see you on next thread! Make it "oc" this time.