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What is the Political system of Gensokyo? I mean the people live in a village where if they ever leave they could get killed, or eaten if out of bounds. Their technology is shit due to being in stasis. If someone dissent they are implied to be killed. Aya has told Kosuzu Motoori that the village is their for Youkai to manipulate. Why haven't villagers risen up against this? They are basically cattle just waiting to be slaughtered.

>> No.16426495

>>16426481
they have risen up alright

their dicks, that is

>> No.16426523

>>16426481
That was a really good book.

>> No.16426539
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>>16426481
You really should read more official books about touhou.
Simple explanation: youkai hunt humans, humans hunt youkai. The power of each side is more or less equal; there are as many weak youkai as weak humans, and as many powerful humans (or powerful people on the human side) as powerful youkai. All in all, it is pretty balanced, and when problems arise...well, there are the Spell Card rules.

I don't know enough about "political systems" to answer your question, tho. Gensokyo is made up of different factions whose only common rules are the aforementioned Spell Card rules.

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16426559

I wanted a "join Shinmyoumaru" option, even if it was going to be completely non-canon and just an easter egg or whatnot.
Maybe there could be a spin-off where society was successfully turned upside-down.

>> No.16426585

>>16426481
>Their technology is shit due to being in stasis
They aren't very aware of this and don't care as long as they can live comfortably. They aren't in stasis either, the progression is just far behind due to being isolated.
>If someone dissent they are implied to be killed.
They don't know this either.
>Aya has told Kosuzu Motoori that the village is their for Youkai to manipulate.
Akyuu literally writes to inform the villagers about the mutual relationship between humans and youkai and the villagers give no shits because they don't like to read boring stuff.
>They are basically cattle just waiting to be slaughtered.
The whole point is to have them not die. Don't be dumb.

This is how life is for them and it's normal. It isn't like the youkai are enslaving them or treating them harshly at all; they don't really have any reason to want to "rise up". The youkai want them as comfortable and complacent as possible.

>> No.16426599

>>16426585
T. youkai

>> No.16426671
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>>16426481
Were does the half-Yokai and half-Human person fit in the nature of gensokyo? Could they be allowed to go outside with Yukari's permission

>> No.16426929

>>16426671
The halflings would obviously be killed discretely. They disrupt the lower of balance. Beside, Gensokyo do not need their tainted blold.

>> No.16427227

>>16426585
Does that book have any info on half youkai and half humans individuals

>> No.16427240

>>16426929
Rinnosuke is alive and well though

>> No.16427268

>>16427240
Didn't he came from the outside world? I would assume the that rule would not apply to him so long as he isn't inside the village

>> No.16427336

>>16427268
No, Rinnosuke once lived in the human village and worked in Marisa's father's shop. He left and created Kourindou when the villagers were disturbed that he aged very slowly due to his heritage.

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>>16426671

>> No.16427701

>>16427699
LOVE AND PIECE

>> No.16427846

>>16426481
>Why haven't villagers risen up against this? They are basically cattle just waiting to be slaughtered.
Why haven't humans risen up against the 1%?

>> No.16428138

>>16427846
how big is the human village exactly?

>> No.16428505

>>16427699
How many halflings are there in canon

>> No.16428685

>>16428138
Canom source states its and average size

>> No.16428846

There's some kind of village head who probably handles day to day stuff and negotiations with youkai, maybe a council of elders or something who assists, but they probably have no real say as far as Gensokyo is concerned.

Then you have Miko who jokingly(?) proposed that someone (herself) lead the village.

>>16426585 is right, though. It's a symbiotic relationship. Youkai need the village to believe in them, but can't be so aggressive that they get themselves killed.

Humans rising up and the resulting war would only be bad for both, which is why it would be bad if someone like Miko mobilized the humans and why youkai try to placate humans and treat them well so no strong leader comes to power.

Human kidnappings to stoke youkai "fear" and exterminations are mostly for show, youkai go around the village at night or in disguise, humans and youkai mingle sometimes, etc. Things aren't that bad save for when a youkai is thought to hurt one (some WAHH chapter). The current setup is beneficial to both.

The only humans who really have anything to fear are outsiders who fall into Gensokyo.

>>16427227
>>16428505

It's literally the same book as Perfect Memento in Strict Sense and Symposium of Post-mysticism. But neither go on about half-humans in general, no. Just the specific ones we know of.

And Rinnosuke, Youmu, and Youki are the only true half-youkai by blood who are half-youkai half-human all the time, while Kagerou and Keine are just were-whatevers.

>>16426671
>>16426929
>>16427240
>>16427268
>>16427336
Yes, he once lived in the Human Village, but he isn't from Gensokyo. He's from the Outside and came long ago either before or sometime after Gensokyo's founding.

Then there's the chapter when he almost tranced himself to the modern Outside World before Yukari sent him back.

>> No.16428875

>>16428846
I thought Youmu explicitly wasn't a "half-phantom, half-human" but being half phantom was just a heritable trait that made youmu a particular "breed" of human.

>> No.16428956

>>16428846
>The only humans who really have anything to fear are outsiders who fall into Gensokyo.
I thought most of those people were suicidal to begin with?

Yukari might have the whole meatpacking thing set up as a euthanasia operation just to keep the outside world human randies from thrashing about too much before slaughter. A quick nursing handjob perhaps.

>> No.16429254

>>16427699
That was a funny fap

>> No.16430147
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>>16426481
What happens in times of Famine or Disease. When the Human Population decreases to breaking point? Will Yukari spirit away dozen of human into Gensokyo

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16430315

What about the Youkai from the outside world? Surely there was have been some interaction between the two groups.

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16430349

>>16426481
sigh...

>What is the Political system of Gensokyo?
officially doesn't exist one (humans, kotohime doesn't count), but youkais follow tribal-like ones

>Their technology is shit due to being in stasis.
this slowly being to change, in part for the kappa and that could become a big problem latter

>If someone dissent they are implied to be killed.
isn't really different of any dictatorship in the history and even't the worst so far

>Aya has told Kosuzu Motoori that the village is their for Youkai to manipulate.
because the real politics in gensokyo is between the diferent youkai factions but all of them need the same resource so no one will openly attack each other, instead they use the villague as a "field" (cold war)

>Why haven't villagers risen up against this?They are basically cattle just waiting to be slaughtered.
first you need to have in mind that gensokyo and hakurei barrier exist for youkai and other fantasy creatures's sake, no human sake
second the village isn't a meat cattle, in fact the villagers are protected no only by reimu, but the others youkais too (no feral ones) because humans as a resource are renovable and easy/quick to multiply (for a youkai time) but in the same time are shit fragile both mental/physically so isn't as easy to maintain in determinate conditons, so my guess is time in time youkai incited internal disturbs between villagers, escalated in some kind of civil war (creating youkais as secondary product) and regulating human population, as nessesary measure of excelent medical service

>> No.16430352

>>16430315
more rare that a green dog

>> No.16430375

>>16428846
>Youmu, and Youki
I don't thing that their clan are merely half/humans anon, for rinnosuke we don't know about his ascendance to beign it

>> No.16430437

>>16426671
Being a human-youkai hybrid, they only needs to drink a cup of sake with a couple of side vegetables to provide enough sustenance for a meal, but full meals are preferred. They avoid staying in the Human Village for long because of their lack of ageing brings unease to the humans bigots there. Also, They are known to be resistant to Human and Youkai Diseases, however once in a while they will fall ill

>> No.16430474

>>16430349
>first you need to have in mind that gensokyo and hakurei barrier exist for youkai and other fantasy creatures's sake, no human sake
>second the village isn't a meat cattle, in fact the villagers are protected no only by reimu, but the others youkais too (no feral ones) because humans as a resource are renovable and easy/quick to multiply (for a youkai time) but in the same time are shit fragile both mental/physically so isn't as easy to maintain in determinate conditons, so my guess is time in time youkai incited internal disturbs between villagers, escalated in some kind of civil war (creating youkais as secondary product) and regulating human population, as nessesary measure of excelent medical service


The Proletarians should rise up. Its the perfect time to seize the means of production and to overthrow their Youkai oppressors

>> No.16430886

>>16430375
>for rinnosuke we don't know about his ascendance to beign it
He was conceive with one human parent and one Youkai parent

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16430952

>>16430349
>sigh...

>> No.16431078

>>16426481
>What is the Political system of Gensokyo?
Essentially none.

When the humans tried having leaders, they were shut down, and there's no "leader" of Gensokyo as a whole. That said, the Kappa and Tengu seem to have things like leaders and laws. On that note, I guess the miko makes the laws of the land in Gensokyo, sort of

>> No.16431186

>>16431078
So Gensokyo is a Repressed Society, Where basic human rights are denied?

>> No.16431310

Why would you use that OP? Fuck, it's distracting.

>> No.16431316

>>16431310
Maybe because sanae is right?

>> No.16431399

>>16431310
ehm, you know where's that from anon?

>> No.16431406

>>16431399
Yeah, so it's distracting.

>> No.16431442

>>16431406
i was hoping for an answer so, yea.

it is quite distracting

>> No.16431464

>>16431186
that leap is so far it won an olympic medal

>> No.16431535 [DELETED] 

>>16431310
What's wtong?

>> No.16431692

>>16431310
How is it distracting

>> No.16431731

Gensokyo is a belief farm for youkai and can't exist in any other way, if humans lost their fear of youkai the barrier would break and they'd just go back to the outside world, where humanity already has absolute dominance.

So youkai have a fragile kind of power where they're the true masters of Gensokyo but have to do everything to make sure the power stays in their hands. They do this by keeping humans in the dark about many things (which directly strengthens them because youkai are literally unknown phenomena, the more you know about the world the weaker they get) but also by making Gensokyo a pleasant enough place that even humans who are in the know support the system.

It's less of a slaughterhouse or fascist dictatorship and more of a mutually beneficial arrangement that just so happens to benefit youkai a lot more than humans.

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>>16431731
>mutually beneficial arrangement that just so happens to benefit youkai a lot more than humans

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>>16431731
Yukari please leave

>> No.16431833

>>16426481
>Political system
Gensokyo is not a country, basically just a land with various power groups of various natures: micronations (human village, Kappa Republic...), religious power (Moriya Shrine, Myouren temple) or kind of powerful houses (Koumakan, Eientei...). They try to get as many power as they can, with the only regulation being the Hakurei Shrine Maiden who go beat the one who try to mess too much with things.

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16431848

You now realise that Seija is the real heroine, trying to bring actual order to this dystopian mess.

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16431856

>>16431848
Why didn't we listen

>> No.16431936

>>16428875
That's correct. You don't make half-phantoms by sticking your dick in a spirit, they're their own "species." So, impregnating Youmu with your human seed would result in a half-half-phantom, not a quater-phantom.

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>>16431936
So you're telling me. Youmu genes are more dominate in a genetic scale?

>> No.16432393

>>16431731
To add a bit more nuance, it isn't so much that they try to keep the humans in the dark or anything, but rather that they don't want the humans not believing in youkai as explanations for the things they (demonstrably) do. Youkai were made scarce in the Outside not by developing science and technology itself, but by adopting a worldview where youkai-like phenomena are explained by alternatives. When you live in a bubble like Gensokyo, rejecting youkai and gods isn't easy, and the goal of Kanako in particular is to advance the technology of Gensokyo while maintaining (or even strengthening) the belief in gods/youkai.

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>>16430147
>What happens in times of Famine or Disease
Large scale disasters like that are prevented.

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>>16426481

On paper, I like to think it's a kind of feudalism.

Yukari is legally the liege of all Gensokyo. Immediately under her is the Hakurei miko, her personal enforcer, and the Hakurei family. Below the Hakurei Family, there is a Village Council, 6 men elected from the noble families of the village. Below the council is the Village and surrounding lands.

Also under Yukari is Lord Tenma of the Tengu, and under him are the Tengu and Kappa. In addition, the council of the Ancient City is under Yukari's protection.

The various religious sects are independent entities, but Yukari is considering allowing Tenma to vassalise the Moriya Shrine to keep them under control and keep Tenma happy, as he controls the closest thing Gensokyo has to a military. Eientei is also neutral, as are the Scarlets.

In practice, everything is more or less anarchic. Gensokyo has absolutely no semblance of unity and cannot be considered any kind of state. Under modern definitions, it is a failed state with no central government, military or economy. If there was no Barrier, the UN would be occupying it. Yukari only really has the Hakureis as her only true vassal.

I have a full headcanon about shit like Reimu's full list of titles, her rights and obligations as a vassal, and Reimu's predecessors' titles

>> No.16433094

>>16433074
Yukarifags sure are delusional

>> No.16433111

>>16433094

Yukari doesn't realistically have much power. Legally, she has every right to be a tyrant, but she is either unwilling or unable to use her legal power to actually rule. If anything, Ran has more political power than Yukari.

Even the Hakureis have done their fair share of what would be considered rebellion in any other case, yet they're still the most reliable thing Yukari has for power projection.

>> No.16433159

>>16433074
Hurt to read.

>> No.16433167

>>16426539
>I don't know enough about "political systems" to answer your question, tho. Gensokyo is made up of different factions whose only common rules are the aforementioned Spell Card rules.
The premise of the OP is silly to begin with because it assumes that Gensokyo is a single state with a political system. It's really more like a bunch of states than a single state, with everything governed either by the Spell Card rules, by treaties, or not at all.

>> No.16433280

>>16433074
This is the best kind of autism.

>> No.16433282

>>16431789
Akyuu, I don't care how sarcastic you get about Yukari, or whether you think you're just using her to achieve your own ends or whatever. I read Memorizable Gensokyo and you're an accomplice.

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>>16430147
>>16432885
>What happens in times of Famine or Disease
The manga chapter of a youkai version of plague doctor while everyone is trying to figure things out about that guy.

>> No.16433323

One thing people just don't seem to grasp is that the humans in the village are primarily retards who either don't know about how things work, or more generally, straight up don't care. They love reading Akyuu's fictional mystery novels but don't give one single shit about her actual history books which actually details the history and state of Gensokyo.

There isn't a unified political system because all the youkai and magical factions are vying for power and faith behind the scenes, yes this also includes Miko.

>I mean the people live in a village where if they ever leave they could get killed, or eaten if out of bounds
Spell Card rules literally dictate that villagers can protect themselves and not be eaten by youkai even if they lose.

>Why haven't villagers risen up against this?
These are bumfuck idiots from feudal Japan who are comfortable with their existence and we know the youkai have an agreement to protect the village from all sorts of natural disasters that would wipe them out otherwise.

>They are basically cattle just waiting to be slaughtered.
Idiotic statement because the entire point is for the youkai to protect the villagers so they can give them faith.

>> No.16433326

>>16433074
Yukari doesn't have any vassals except for shikigami (and possibly zashiki-warashi). She's just really good at making herself too valuable to get rid of. There's also an unclear number of other "sages" who are of theoretically equal rank.

The oni rank above the tengu and kappa, but they left long ago and Suika and Yuugi aren't interested in reestablishing their power.

Reimu also doesn't have anyone working under her. Akyuu and the guy who ate his horse have way more power than she does. Heck, Marisa's dad has more power than she does.

>> No.16433396

>>16433326

The system I posted is how it was supposed to work in theory at the creation of Gensokyo, which is why I didn't mention Reimu specifically.

As it turned out, Yukari may be personally powerful, but she has zero idea how to actually govern. She basically went out, told everyone they worked for her and owed her taxes and yadda yadda, and everyone proceeded to ignore her and do their own thing anyway. Yukari's de facto authority ends at her front door. Outside of the boundary, even Ran has more authority, and that's because Ran has raised young Hakurei mikos herself at various points in history.

The Hakurei family are still pretty much the highest ranking human family, but the last few mikos have tarnished their image considerably, and they aren't as powerful as they used to be. Technically, Reimu has the right to raise a militia of men from the Village, dismiss the council, and deputise people as agents working on her behalf, but no man will fight for her, the council are basically independent from her and can tell her to go fuck herself, and the only person officially deputised is Marisa and that's only because it gives Marisa the right to bear arms, which is something she didn't need but wanted anyway because it sounded cool at the time.

Gensokyo's a mess and all it would take to completely take it over is someone with enough ambition to do so.

As it stands though, nobody is going to do that because Yukari has the advantage in her myth of invincibility. As long as people believe she's an ancient evil that can kill with just a thought, she will be feared as such.

>> No.16433436

>>16433396
>The system I posted is how it was supposed to work in theory at the creation of Gensokyo
When Yukari created Gensokyo proper she just took a big pocket of Japan and sealed it off. "Mythological Japan" really didn't have laws - people mostly just did whatever the fuck they wanted until someone with a bigger stick came along. I'm not convinced that Gensokyo ever did, either, any more than Yukari announcing that she was going to fold up a huge chunk of Japan and that all youkai could decide whether they wanted in or out before the door closed.

>> No.16433476

>>16433436

I always thought of it being more like the older eras of Japan, I've always seen Yukari as being a nostalgic sort who clings to the past. She used her power to recreate what was to her the glory days of all youkai, when they were feared, respected and most importantly, not threatened with total extinction. She took steps to keep the ecology in check and then tried to claim ownership.

She wanted to be an Emperor and ended up a zookeeper.

>> No.16433802

>>16433074
This is actually a pretty interesting read.

>> No.16433806

>>16433802
Too bad it's completely wrong

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>>16433806
As if you could do better.

>> No.16433900

>>16433894
Rules of Gensokyo:

1. ZOMG NONE!!!1*
2. Spell Card rules are still enforced.

Note: "ZOMG NONE!!!1" applies to shrine maidens and youkai sages as well.

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>>16433900
3. Muh xxx X xxx romance is canon

>> No.16433972

>>16433900
I like you.

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>>16433074
That was a nice little read. Its ashame Zun will never do something like this.

>> No.16434035

>>16434013
If there's something this world is lacking, it's up for you to fill that gap. Tens of thousands of doujin circles have been formed for precisely this purpose.

Someone was advertising a Touhou-based machine learning paper at Comiket, so maybe that kind of thing will even sell.

>> No.16434227

>>16431848
>even her despise humans
no anon

>>16431983
we don't know, unless you wanna impregnate youmu to find it

>>16433074
>yukari above all
and the others sages?

>>16433167
>>16433323
this

>>16433396
the problem with hakurei due ZUN retconing old stuff is somewhat imply that hakurei miko are selected and elected by youkais

>>16434035
>a Touhou-based machine learning paper
wat?

>> No.16434241

>>16434227
She doesn't despise humans, what are you talking about?

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>>16434227
Seija Started her revolution for plight of the weak human who were oppressed.

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>>16434227
>we don't know, unless you wanna impregnate youmu to find it
Sorry anon. But I don't want to know if my genes are going to be cucked out of existence due to her unique nature. I hope you understand

>> No.16435344

>>16434227

>the problem with hakurei due ZUN retconing old stuff is somewhat imply that hakurei miko are selected and elected by youkais

I've interpreted this more as due to Reimu not having a daughter, they'd have to choose which dynastic branch to go onto next. Gensokyo would actually not have a miko for a few weeks while her closest cousin was tracked down.

>and the others sages?

Decided they'd rather not get into Yukari's silly little feudal system and went off to do their own thing. They listened when the Spell Card Rules became law because it was in their best interests to but otherwise either rule their own little fiefs or just straight up have better things to do. They didn't become wise, powerful sages by constantly meddling in politics, and Yukari is unique in that regard due to her historical relationship with the Hakurei family, which is why she chose them to be her enforcers and representatives when the Barrier was erected. I could go on for a while about this, I have thought about the history of the Hakurei family a lot

>> No.16435812

>>16431848
The whole point of gensokyo is the glaring lack of order though
I mean otherwise Reimu would probably qualify for social welfare or something and Cirno would be confined in a mental ward

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>>16435812
>The whole point of gensokyo is the glaring lack of order though
Dear God its Somalia.
They need to start forming a Strong Central Government

>> No.16435902

>>16435896
When you consider that pretty much every single game involves Reimu flying off and repeatedly nuking whoever she finds until the problem goes away, yeah pretty much. Like did Sekibanki, Cirno, pretty much everyone before stage 5 in XIII have anything to do with anything? Not really, and that's how it is for every game.

>> No.16435924

>>16435896
we went over this last time, miko

go back to sleep

>> No.16435950

>>16435924
Not Until The peasants Control the means of Production

>> No.16435955

>>16435950
In Gensokyo, the primary commodities needed by youkai are faith and fear, and the peasants literally are the means of production.

This ain't your father's economics textbook.

>> No.16435976

>>16435955
The peasants need to control the means of reproduction as well.

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>>16435976
>mfw Trump is going to make the Human Village great again

>> No.16436167

>>16436107
Who are you quoting sir?

>> No.16436170

>>16436107
I was wondering how long it would take for retards like you to show up in a thread like this. I'm surprised we made it this far.

>> No.16436293

>>16435976
So they can sire filthy halflings?

>> No.16436983

>>16436293

I wonder if there's a tiny subset of Village men who want to breed with youkai out of some femdom fetish or belief that they should try and outbreed youkai by mixing their races into an unrecognisable mongrel race that will eventually be more human than youkai.

I can certainly imagine particularly rebellious daughters trying to spite their fathers by eloping with some kappa only to get her ass ripped open.

>> No.16438204

>>16436983
Male kappas don't exist anon.

>> No.16438695

>>16436983
Aren't All kappas Small? Why have a manlet for a son

>> No.16438723

>>16438204
Only trap kappas.

>> No.16438765

>>16438723
So a trappa?

>> No.16439121

>>16438765
Nitori

>> No.16439203
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16439203

>>16438765
>>16439121

>> No.16439789

>>16439203
Isn't she Racist?

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16440490

>>16438204
>>16438723
>>16438765
Kappa will kill you

>> No.16440620

>>16440490
Step 1: locate bodies of water populated by kappas
Step 2: acquire earth/metal magic
Step 3: drop about 500 tons of sodium into the body of water, better if powdered
Step 4: acquire kappa soap
Step 5: sell kappa soap for profit

>> No.16440799

>>16440490
That kappa is cute for some reason

>> No.16443204

>>16440620
Are you implying we exterminate the kappa?

>> No.16443230

>>16443204
No.
Just the youkais as a whole.

>> No.16443277

>>16443230
Even the Waifus?

>> No.16443324
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>>16443277
Wish them to become humans and then start the extermination.

>> No.16443327

>>16443277
Suffer not the youkai to live.

>> No.16443564

>>16440490
What's going on.

>> No.16444693

>>16443564
butt stuff

>> No.16444871

>>16426481
Humans are outmatch and outgun. Reimu is with the Youkai. Noone will help them due to the fact they are just there to Cattle to gather Faith. Such a Sad Existence

>> No.16444956

>>16444871
I still do not think that Reimu is aware of what she is doing. She is probably being lied at.

>> No.16445185

>>16444956
Reimu has to be aware to some extend

>> No.16446146

>>16445185
Reimu is a idiot who doesn't know half the things she does

>> No.16446168

>>16433074
Yukari is more like a negotiator/mediator than a feudal lord.

It's also mentioned the Village also has some kind of Village Illuminati going as well as the regular Village council.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Keine

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>>16446168
Inquisition. They kill any humans who wants the remove the shackles the Youkai imposed on them

>> No.16446935

>>16446168
How the fuck is this allowed?

>> No.16447815

Fuck politics.

Outlier like Remilia family is the best way to live in Gensokyo.

Libertarian all the way!

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16448900

>>16447815
Jokes on you Gensokyo is already Somalia

>> No.16448986

If you want humans to be super awesome and the best at everything you have about 1000 other fantasy settings you could be enamored with.

>> No.16449599

>>16446168
It's ashamed we don't hear more about or from Keine, maybe it would give us a better view on Illumunati cult.

>> No.16450512

>>16449599
That would be grimdark

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>>16446168
>All of those grimdark comics are canon.
Well shit.

>> No.16451719

>>16448986
But MUH HUMANITY FUCK YEA!

>> No.16455569

>>16451719
Traitor

>> No.16455759

>>16426585

Their technology isn't even that far behind. In the canon works they have electricity and light bulbs in the Village, the Hakurei Shrine has running water and Marisa was doing dishes with a sponge. Gensokyo was only cut off in 1891 for heaven's sake, the Human Village at least is a late Meiji-era Japanese village with some archaic clothing choices.

Not to mention the fact that Youkai Mountain's tech is beyond the Outside World's.

>> No.16455772

>>16435812
In the books, Yukari IS Reimu's social welfare. She sneaks donations into her box whenever Reimu's not looking so Reimu thinks she actually has a baseline amount of visitors when there actually are none.

>> No.16455773

>>16436983
Here's the thing though...

Half-youkai are rare in East Asian mythology. Offspring between youkai and humans generally become full youkai in those stories.

>> No.16455774

>>16455772
I'd probably consider suicide if I were Reimu

>> No.16455775

>>16455759
>Their technology isn't even that far behind.
I know.
>Gensokyo was only cut off in 1891 for heaven's sake, the Human Village at least is a late Meiji-era Japanese village with some archaic clothing choices.
1885; early Meiji*
For sure though. I've actually done research on what kind of technology they would have based on their state of living being late-Edo early-Meiji. Baths and sanitation and whatnot.
>Not to mention the fact that Youkai Mountain's tech is beyond the Outside World's.
Well, the whole point is that it's different because they'll use magical or fantastical elements in the progression of technology and industrialization. It isn't really "beyond" at all so to speak; even Kappa and Tengu technology is noticeably behind in complexity even if functionally some items do things we can't. Lunarian tech on the other hand is so far ahead it's flipped around and tries to look old.

>> No.16455785

>>16455775
Right, I got the date wrong.

Anyway, I think the most apt comparison of Gensokyo's political situation is, funnily enough, the stereotypical WIld West setting of 1800s America. You got a small-ish settlement, lots of unknown elements running around (Indians, Outlaws, etc. -> Youkai), and conflict is resolved through formal violence (Duels in both cases)

>> No.16456296

>>16455785
Wild west had no real order.
Whild they do have (unofficial) order

>> No.16460801

>>16455773
The half youkai we are shown are still hybrids

>> No.16462319

I'm angry, angry about youkais.

>> No.16462379

>>16440799
Spoiler: That artist makes a fuckload of futa hentai. Enjoy your Nitori with a penis.

>> No.16463750

>>16462379
Sounds like something /jp/ would like

>> No.16463997

>>16446168
How many secret societies can that tiny ass village keep?

>> No.16464044

>>16462379
You're saying that's like it's a negative thing.

>> No.16464339

>>16463997
They likely just have like the same four people in the newest name of their secret society.

>> No.16464867

I volunteer!
To improve human-youkai relations by creating a hybrid army!

No political power can win against the dick.

>> No.16466163

>>16464867
Wouldnt they be raise by their youkai mother

>> No.16467953

>>16466163
Then they will be shit youkai because single mothers make poor caretakers

>> No.16471270

>>16463997
There's Keine. Yukaris. Tengu. Kappa. Etc.etc

>> No.16471283

>>16451683
What?

>> No.16471299

>>16451683
What?

>> No.16474169

>>16446195
and reimu is an inquisitor as well

>> No.16474225
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16474225

>>16427699
POWER OF LOVE BABY
10/10 would fap again to.

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>>16446168
>For us, humans are just targets for attacking, you know?
Talk about smug, that Aya.

>> No.16476534

>>16474966
>her book came out before her game debut.
What did Zun mean by this

>> No.16481222

>>16427699
You think Zun would ever allow the Characters to have Childrens?

>> No.16481735

>>16476534
That and she appeared in PoFV before she appeared in the game most people associate her with.
The case of Aya is a bit peculiar but I quite like it, because by the time she appeared she already had a character and personality.

>> No.16481809

>>16481735
Kasen is also in that same position too since she's been cropping up in her own series and cameo'ing in the other side stories until showing up in ULiL.

To my knowledge ZUN also mentioned she was the original EX boss for Ten Desires before the Mamizou hijack.

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>>16481222
Well, TECHNICALLY ...

>> No.16482105

>>16481809
>she was the original EX boss for Ten Desires before the Mamizou hijack
Well shit, Kasen started as a printed material character and now she started to appear in games, Mamizou started as a boss and now she's appearing a lot in the printed works ...
Really jimbles your kojimbles.

Although I'll give it to Aya that she's only appeared in BAiJR before she became a prominent character, unlike Kasen, who remained manga only for quite a while.

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>>16481222

>> No.16482165

>>16481809
>original EX boss
Doesn't that serve as a declaration of how strong she is if she decides to get in a spell card duel?

>> No.16482173

>>16482144

so should i put that down as a no... ?

>> No.16482189

>>16482173
Junko had kids, read her lore, aho.

>> No.16482304

>>16482144
>>16482189
All human characters have parents and grandparents. A good number of them have been at least vaguely described.

Most of the Lunarian characters are based on gods who have kids (and are the ancestors of various Japanese noble houses).

>> No.16490383

>>16482304
But would Zun allow any of the characters to have children currently?

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>>16481222
IIRC Toyohime has a son. And her son is literally married to Yorihime.

>> No.16490592

>>16490485
Soon they will have a dynasty as powerful as the habsburg

>> No.16490623

>>16426481
So OP, what dojin is this came from?

>> No.16490654

>>16490623
https://exhentai.org/g/570546/f708d73c24/
>Keine gets gangraped in the name of a Gensokyan Revolution

>> No.16490675

>>16430315
From what we've seen in the manga and snippets of the books ZUN has written, the high-caste Youkai are present to either integrate Youkai from the outside world or just kill them outright. Alternatively, the Hakurei Shrine Maiden is tasked with the duty of Youkai Extermination, which typically involves her horsing around in faux-incidents, but occasionally calls for the actual extermination of Youkai.

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>>16490654
>>Keine gets impregnated in the name of a Gensokyan Liberation
FTFY

>> No.16491026

>>16490623
thank god someone finally said it

>> No.16491487

>>16490654
>https://exhentai.org/g/570546/f708d73c24/
Thanks.

>> No.16492172

>>16490592
Their dynasty is the Japanese Imperial Family, dude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Jimmu

>> No.16493704

>>16492172
The Hapsburg Dynasty was/is the most powerful Dynasty to ever exist

>> No.16496704

>>16493704
Capet was more powerful
Alternatively, assorted Roman and Chinese dynasties.

>> No.16496719

>>16496704
Unlike them. The Hapsburg Dynasty is Still alive and growing Stronger.

>> No.16496721

>>16496719
Yeah but it isn't, they're an unlanded dynasty.

>> No.16496737

>>16496721
Do you dare Challenge Karl von Habsburg The Grandson of Charles I & IV

>> No.16497277

>>16490485
To elaborate more and be more specific in Eirin's own words...

>The two princesses were my distant relatives. To put it in human terms, one was the wife of a grandnephew of mine, while the other was the wife of their son

>> No.16498717

>>16497277
Its like one of my hentai

>> No.16500904

>>16497277
So does Eirin have children?

>> No.16501499

>>16500904
Omoikane wasn't known to have any offspring.

>> No.16501657

>>16501499
She's still young. She could have a child or two

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>>16433074
>Reimu's full list of titles, her rights and obligations as a vassal, and Reimu's predecessors' titles
Post it.

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The dragon rules all!

>> No.16501956
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16501956

>>16501748

Official titles are Lady Reimu Hakurei the Second, Hakurei Shrine Maiden, Defender of the Realm, Commander of the Gensokyan Militia, Inheritor of the Blood Rage, Guardian of Peace and Tranquillity, Conqueror of Makai, Shepherdess of the Human Village, Clearer of the Scarlet Mist, Saviour of Gensokyo, Returner of Spring, Lady of Duels, and her nickname is the Youkai. Unofficial and former titles include Demon Lady of the Round Table, Beast of Vina, Liberator of Pandaemonium, Free Tea Provider, and Daughter of The Impaler.

Reimu's mother's titles, excluding ones that all shrine maidens have, and both official and unofficial, are: Lady Noriko Hakurei, Suppressor of the Season 99 Uprising, Bandit-Killer, Destroyer of Liberty, the Destroyer of Youkai, the Unfaithful, and her nickname was the Impaler. Reimu's mother was legitimately psychopathic and was so hated that Yukari had to order Ran to have her and her lover/bodyguard assassinated to prevent a full-scale rebellion. Ran did so personally because she didn't trust anyone else to succeed.

That bodyguard was Nonon Kirisame, younger sister to Marisa's father and Marisa's aunt, who inspired Marisa into the life of youkai extermination in the first place

Yes, I am this autistic. I also have the rights and obligations around somewhere but I'll have to find them

>> No.16502003

>>16501956
>Free Tea Provider
Anon no she's too poor to afford these expenses

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>>16501956
Wew Lad. This is something alright.

>> No.16504371

>>16501956
>Shepherdess of the Human Village,
Actually, Reimu holds no political or cultural power within the village. The lack of respect from the villagers is a big part of her character background.

Sperg all you want about titles and such, but at the very least don't make them directly oppose the basics of the setting.

>> No.16504552

>>16501956
keep going, this is tantamount to science!

>> No.16504814

>>16504371
she's just really bad at her job

>> No.16505297

>>16504371
I thought she was a Medium.

>> No.16505374

>>16504371

As designed, Reimu would have some power, as she is entitled to a vote on Village Council matters. However, she is both the daughter of a vicious tyrant and also not very good at public relations so her opinion is only ever 'noted.' As a result, that title is just hereditary and only kept to make her seem more impressive. This also ignores the fact that the feudal order has completely broken down in Gensokyo because as it turns out, people were doing alright until some gap hag came in and started shouting a lot about owning the place. When the barrier went up, Yukari attempted to make the other sages swear fealty, only for the other sages to tell her that they'd rather not, and Yukari should really stop with that kind of thing because there is no way in Hell Gensokyo could have a government of any kind even if Yukari did have a legitimate claim. Turns out the sages were right.

I told you this was fucking autistic. The worst part is being self-aware about it.

>> No.16506511

>>16505374
You're doing Great anon.

>> No.16509726

>>16505374
Continue, tis great!

>> No.16509950

>>16501956
>the Second
what kind of bullshit is this?

>> No.16510005

>>16509950

It's something I'm already a little iffy about, but I have the headcanon that the first Hakurei miko was also named Reimu, and Reimu's mother just named her that because she couldn't be bothered to think of an original name

>> No.16510293

>>16510005
Sounds reasonable

>> No.16511514

>>16482165
I think that much could be inferred from her ties to the Oni who tend to gather around strong people (whether or not she is one is another matter because I somehow doubt ZUN is ever going to come clean on that) and that now she is more or less confirmed as one of the founding Gensokyan youkai sages.

>> No.16512188

>>16510005
Nips don't name their kids after famous people or ancestors.

>> No.16512229

>>16512188
Right. If you want to name a kid after a relative, you use one of the kanji from their name. Not the whole name.

>> No.16514606

>>16512229
So they do but at the same time they don't?

>> No.16517271

>>16505374
More.

>> No.16518034

>>16505374
>The worst part is being self-aware about it.

You have a precious gift. Don't ever let them take it from you.

>> No.16520502

>>16518034
Don't encourage his autism

>> No.16520512
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Humans can't do much against the super "You are dead now haha" youkai without either technological progress or becoming youkai themselves.

Technology is controlled and Reimu summary executes anyone from the village who tries to become a youkai.

>> No.16520520

>>16520512
Big Sister is just watching her

>> No.16523382

>>16512229
>you use one of the kanji from their name
That's why she has a different kanji for "Rei" in the PC98 games. This way it makes sense.

>> No.16523594

>>16520512
>Reimu summary executes anyone from the village who tries to become a youkai
literally happened once, get the fuck over yourself

technology isn't "controlled", youkai inventions spread throughout, and there would never be any need to """"rebel""" against youkai in the first place considering they actively support the humans and pose no legitimate danger (heck, they forbid themselves from inflicting harm)

how can people be so hardline about the series while knowing so little about it
do people just stop by this thread to shitpost the same dumb things over and over

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>>16523594
>literally happened once, get the fuck over yourself
Implied to have happen a few times

>technology isn't "controlled", youkai inventions spread throughout, and there would never be any need to """"rebel""" against youkai in the first place considering they actively support the humans and pose no legitimate danger (heck, they forbid themselves from inflicting harm)
Didn't Aya say they didn't want a Strong Human Elder/Leader because >Muh Humans inferior


>how can people be so hardline about the series while knowing so little about it
People seem to ignore the Darker Aspects of the Series even when they are being mention.

>> No.16523662

What I found most interesting/surprising was in Suzuna-an and Ibarakasen to a lesser degree, how much Reimu is a co-conspirator to the youkais in terms of controlling the human village.

There's an interesting balance where the youkais need humans to exist but they basically treat them as cattles. And Reimu seems to lack any sympathy for the condition of her fellow humans. If anything she's like an appeaser who "takes care of the bad youkai" so no one really dares to complain.

So in light of this the whole enlightening the humans thing the new religious leaders are doing seem much more positive than a simple power grab.

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>>16523662
Once more the Humans will rule the Gensokyo and we shall have peace

>> No.16523903

>>16523627
>Implied to have happen a few times
Not really. It's already obvious to various parties that humans becoming youkai is a possibility, and anyone with knowledge on the balance of Gensokyo would be aware this is to be avoided even in theory. Reimu is set on preventing it from occurring at all, but this doesn't mean "it keeps happening and Reimu kills em all". The emphasis in Ch.25 is on prevention, not reaction.

>Didn't Aya say they didn't want a Strong Human Elder/Leader
The youkai don't want leadership in the village because with leaders comes proliferation of poor and uninformed decisions that creates instability for Gensokyo, as well as making it easier for individual youkai to control the whole of the population from one point. It doesn't have anything to do with technology or trying to overthrow the youkai (which itself would be a bad idea).

>People seem to ignore the Darker Aspects of the Series even when they are being mention.
I disagree. People have a tendency to read just a small bit of the official works and greatly -overemphasize- the darker aspects of the series precisely because they're not usually shown as a main focus in the works themselves. People pick these things out as though it's the "hidden truth" of the series and ignore everything else about the series that makes it work -despite- the darker elements.

>> No.16523922

>>16523688
The fuck is this?

>> No.16524635

>>16523627
Why does Yuyuko have a swirl logo?

>> No.16524844

>>16523922
Looks like some horrific OC donut steel

>> No.16524936

>>16524844
I thought she was from that one cliche Anime called RWBY

>> No.16525042

>>16524936
Well that entire cartoon looks like it was done in MMD so who knows

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>>16525042
>Well that entire cartoon looks like it was done in MMD so who knows
Which is Hilarious knowing they got a staff of animators who are supposed to make it better than the average MMD Videos yet somehow they fuck even that up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHxOBXb6wV0

>> No.16525323

>>16525078
I can't even be mad, the whole thing is just so low effort and low quality that i'm not even surprised.

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>>16525323
But Touhou MMD are Inferior to RWBY in every way possible.

>> No.16526291

>>16525977
Yes have a laugh, hee haw, epic ironic contrarian opinion just to try and start an argument.

>>16524635
Dreamcast.

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>>16426481
I'm just going to leave this here...

>> No.16527993

>>16524635
>>16526291
GIYGAS

>> No.16528006

>>16524635
Just a google search away
https://hyakumonogatari.com/2011/09/22/what-is-the-triangle-headband-japanese-ghosts-wear/

http://www.whats-your-sign.com/spiral-meaning.html

>> No.16528054

>>16528006

What a bunch of selective horse hockey nonsense.

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>>16525323
>>16525977
Exported and modded MMD Models and then being used in Poser. Reminds me on how some SFM users exports MMD models to SFM or in the way of modding when it come to source games (Miku MMD model in Counter-Strike and ect).
Looked up the MMD drama, it's a gold mine.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.935615-RWBY-plagiarizing-from-MMD-models
That one faggot, hiei82 is trying to defend it.
>The reisen image from >>16525078
>Yes they look similar; under what metric are they being compared? It isn't enough for them to look similar; they need to have the same digital geometry or the same underlying code; neither of which the image provides.
holy fuck, my sides.

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>> No.16528182

>>16525078
bunny girl in a school uniform. such original character.

i don't think you can steal that concept

>> No.16528444

>>16528112
Hiei82 knows more about that than the others. He's speaking the truth while others are trying to spread misinformation. Monry Oum and by extension Roosterteeth worked hard for that series

>> No.16528493

>>16501956
>Demon Lady of the Round Table
THIS TWISTED GAME NEEDS TO BE RESET
Or rather, <<Cipher, can you see any borders from here ?>>

>> No.16528744

>>16520502
Encourage his autisim

>> No.16529082

>>16528054
Are you 80? Otherwise yeah i agree

>> No.16529488

>>16525977
>A fully staff of animators can only make this.
>One person in Japan, Korea, or China can make MMD better than this.
Are people being swindled? Or are they this stupid?

>> No.16529980

>>16528006
So the hat's basically an ascended pixiv meme. I imagine that people 1000 years from now will be asking the same kinds of questions about cat lingerie and virgin killer sweaters.

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>>16527978

>> No.16530956

>>16527978
>libertarian left
Are they all sluts?

>> No.16530988
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buıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ ǝɯ ʞsɐ ʇ,uop ǝɹǝɥ ʇsıɥɔɹɐuɐ

>> No.16531032
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>>16530988
Seija isn't really an anarchist because she doesn't reject hierarchy, she just wants to reverse it.

>> No.16531037

>>16531032
So what would she be then? A rebel?

>> No.16531045

>>16531037
Yeah, that'd be a better description.

>> No.16531048

>>16530988
>>16531032
>>16531037
Seija is literally a contrarian on every level of being

>> No.16531153

>>16531037
A /r9k/ user advocating a beta uprising.

>> No.16531158

>>16531153
Seija would unironically rebel against the beta uprising after it was successful just to be a hipster

>> No.16531184

>>16531158
Not just being a hipster really, it's just that on a basic level, she IS rebellion. She is incapable of not rebelling against something or another. It's just who she is. Break things until everyone's breaking it, then start putting things back together on your own. Flip the social order, then flip it back again.

It doesn't matter what she's rebelling against or even if it's a rebellion that can succeed. All that matters to her is the act of rebellion. As long as there is black and white, she will be compelled to flip the two. And if all there is is grey? That just sounds like a black that needs a white. Or maybe a white needing a black. But really, who cares about the details like that? Not when there's an order to be overthrown. Ormaybe a chaos needing tamed.

>> No.16531196

>>16531184
Well that's what I mean
She is literally incapable of fitting in
She's that one kid who does things for no other reason than you're not supposed to
She's the one girl at a party who refuses to eat dishes everyone else enjoys
She's the one poster who refuses to post like she belongs
It's not even that her ideal doesn't fit in, her ideal IS not fitting in.

>> No.16531213

>>16531048
Does this apply on sex?

>> No.16531220

>>16531213
Yes
You need to hold feet while getting inserted into in the pagan position for the purpose of everything but procreation

>> No.16531249
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>>16531196
She's perfect

>> No.16531261

>>16531249
Now if only ZUN's art became perfect as well

>> No.16531276
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>>16531196
Damn, Sagume is a terrible mom for raising her daughter like that.

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>>16531261

>> No.16531480

>>16527978
I always knew Reimu was a tankie

Also those artifacts are triggering the HE*K out of me dude, spoiler that shit

>>16530956
If all /jp/sies were turned into cute girls I bet 80% of us would immediately devote our lives to riding the cock carousel

>> No.16532784
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>>16531196
Seija is a Daemon Princess of Malal.

>> No.16532821

>>16532784
See if she acts like this towards you it means you really fucked up trying to get on her good side

>> No.16532827
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>>16532821
When Seija gets mad at someone, does she slide up really close to them, pressing her unassuming, small breasts to their body, leaning in close enough to their ear that they can feel the warmth of her breath as she whispers just how mad she is at them, before biting them on the cheek?

>> No.16532834

>>16532827
You like Iku don't you?

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>>16532827
_______________No____________________

>> No.16534115

>>16532827
Yes

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>>16532834
I HATE SEIJA.

>> No.16538218

>>16534133
She loves you too

>> No.16543849

>>16534133
Da fuck is this

>> No.16544030

>>16543849
dinohus are a blessing from god

>> No.16549294

>>16531184
>she IS rebellion
So its treason then?

>> No.16550324

>>16549294
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.16553022
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>>16550324

>> No.16555565

So what would happen if the human village has a strong leader?

>> No.16555587

>>16555565
Is the leader causing trouble or potentially an issue? They wtill get eliminated somehow, possibly sneakily replaced.

Is the leader more of a morale-booster/figurehead? Every external group will by trying to get them into their pocket somehow.

>> No.16559861

>>16555587
So either kill him or manipulate him/her.

And they wonder why humans hate them

>> No.16564923

>>16559861
Such is the life of a oppressed human living in Gensokyo

>> No.16564958

>>16555565
It won't happen, but even if it somehow did such a person would be killed. The human village cannot have a leader, or Gensokyo will quickly fall apart.

>> No.16565187

>>16555565
Basically Kanako explains that in the Symposium.

>> No.16565212

>>16426481
Penis Potato Boat

>> No.16565275

>>16555565
It won't happen for three major reasons

The first is that the humans in Gensokyo are a bunch of lazy fucks who don't care about anything that isn't sensationalist or trite garbage

The second is there are too many vested interests in the village and all the youkai have unspoken agreements to protect it but at the same time compete for it and make sure that no one faction gets too strong or ahead of the others; this includes the humans. Miko will never be able to "win" and unite the humans either, there's too many forces against her that would undermine any efforts to organize the villagers.

The third is that Gensokyo is predicated under the entire balance between the humans and the youkai. If the humans become unified or strong or no longer fear/believe in the youkai and gods, the entire system falls apart, and no one wants to see that happen.

Akyuu went over this in the recent chapter of FS. The humans "strength" comes from their ability to do nothing and be collectively protected by the youkai who seek to exploit them. They all benefit from youkai protection; the storm chapter also went over this, where Aya describes how the youkai protect the village from a myriad of natural disasters.

If any of them actually gave a shit about anything she wrote they'd realize it. And even if they did they would probably continue their role, because they are all old Japanese bumpkins who would be easily wiped out by a raging storm or flood.

>>16559861
The humans hate the youkai because they're scared of them, not because they have any concept of what is going on behind the scenes. Almost all of them sans Keine and Kosuzu actively ignore everything Akyuu says or writes as a history book, only paying attention to her fictional stories.

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>>16565275
You ever wonder if they ever rose up in the past?

>> No.16572933

So what happens to half human half youkai people?

>> No.16576561

>>16565275
>Miko will never be able to "win" and unite the humans either
"will" implies she wants to

She was actually just legitimately concerned about the people of Gensokyo, and immediately backed down upon hearing that everyone was okay with the current situation.

>> No.16576565

>>16567200
They tried to rise up recently (in terms of overall history) and Keine called them idiots.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Keine

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>>16572933

They run unsuccessful business ventures

>> No.16576661

>>16567200
You ever wonder if anyone reads the print works?

>> No.16576678

>>16576661
i did read PMiSS and On my way CiLR for the text book. for the manga i've read em all

>> No.16576705
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16576705

Move along anons. Youkai are your friends. Children should report their parents for any anti-youkai sentiment. And remember to never ask any unnecessary questions.

>> No.16577189

>>16576705
>Youkai are your friends
literally the opposite of the message they want to send, please stop

>> No.16583180

>>16577189
>The Joke

>Your Head

>> No.16589765

>>16576565
W-what happen to them?

>> No.16594317

>>16589765
They were killed and eaten.

>> No.16600943

>>16576656
I think he is pretty successful

>> No.16606562

>>16529488
They are both sadly.

>> No.16614620

>>16577189
It was a 1984 joke

>> No.16615271

>>16559861
>and they wonder why humans hate them
You think they don't know and enjoy the hatred they get? It's something for them to boast about. They're Youkai. Why should they lament the tears of lesser beings?

>> No.16615410

>>16615271
>Humans
>Lesser beings.
How dare you. Humanity is a master race

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>>16615271
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE HUMAN RACE

>> No.16617399

>>16426539
>>16426481
So basically Gensokyo is a very kawaii Japanese version of Somalia.

>> No.16617429

>>16589765
Everyone laughed at them and I guess they gave up.

>> No.16618744

>>16530988
How do type upside down?

>> No.16621743

>>16532784
Thanks /tg/

>> No.16627084

>>16621743
No problem

>> No.16632366

>>16555565
The Youkai eat him or her as an example

>> No.16643862

>>16572933
They are killed.

>> No.16643884
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>>16632366
>>16643862

Are you edgelords for real?

>> No.16644267

>>16643884
The only reason thry haven't killed them is because they were born outside.

>> No.16646717

>>16644267
No they weren't. Have you actually even read the lore?

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>>16643884
Is keine even a youkai? I thought she was some human affected with a werewolve disease

>> No.16654160

>>16653682
Yes.

And correct. It still counts, and she considers herself one. Or rather, half of one.

>> No.16658866

>>16654160
How does that work

>> No.16661152

>>16658866
She's magic of the not good variety, and possibly craves the flesh of humans once a month.

>> No.16668777

>>16661152
Can she eat fairies

>> No.16676795

>>16668777
Does she? Does that count?

>> No.16679346 [DELETED] 

>>16565275
So, they're the sort of NPC-esque normies that /r9k/ and /pol/ go REEEEEEE over?

Given the sorts of people usually drawn into Gensokyo from the outside world, I wonder how long it'd take an Anon to get sucked in, and bring knowledge of Kek and all his Youkai buddies like Ebola-Chan and Bane with him.

Possibly ending with them standing in the Human Village's main street and having a full-on autistic meltdown about how blind they are.

>> No.16689929

>>16661152
Stop spreading lies

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