Touhou Gameplay Thread

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Touhou Gameplay Thread Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 03:30:36 No.16400649 [Reply] [Original]

Theme is spell cards:
What are some of your favorite spell cards and why?
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>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 05:12:52 No.16400903 >>16368895 Sorry for the late reply, but what files did you need?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 06:08:48 No.16401003
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>>16400649
I really like Kaguya's final Last Spell on lunatic, "End of Imperishable Night -Rising World-". No other spell has that same feeling and appearance of "I'm near my breaking point and am just going to throw all the shit I can at you".

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 07:09:34 No.16401120 File: 22 KB, 127x255, TFZ66s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That was ridiculous, I made it to Eiki with 2 extra lives and she still sent me to hell.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 07:29:35 No.16401168 >>16401120 2 extra lives isn't a lot of eiki, the first round is near unwinnable and the second one is still very hard. I belive the third one is where beating her becomes realistic

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 07:49:08 No.16401203

>>16401168
So no miss runs are none existent?
Something that feels cheap are those free level 4 attacks you sometimes get.
Komachi and Eiki seem to always conveniently get one of those just after you used a level 4 attack yourself, it's the biggest fuck you in the series

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 08:04:01 No.16401244

>>16401203
No miss runs certainly exist, but only for certain characters that can luck out and hit the stage 9 boss on round 1 like Reimu, Eiki and Marisa. (and Aya/Medicine as well but that's a given). I doubt there's one for Mystia.

>free level 4 attacks
They happen when you get 100k/300k/500k spell point combo. So you can plan to get one after your opponent does.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 09:21:27 No.16401461 >>16401203 Don't ever use a level 4 intentionally, it's a waste as the AI try to die at specific times, not whenever there's lots of bullets on the screen, using a level 2 is always the best option.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 09:23:07 No.16401467 >>16401244 I don't think there's a LNM with Marisa yet, FSX said he has 20 1M's, including a pretty recent one where he had a 10 minute long eiki round 1, and she didn't even get hit once. Gotta get lucky.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 10:05:48 No.16401597 >>16401461 I don't do, I was aware of the level 2 attacks being the best.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 10:30:35 No.16401641

>>16400649
Subterranean Rose. It's beautiful to look at, it's hard (unless you time it out, but that's disgusting), it fits Koishi's motif and, during the calmer part of Hartmann's Youkai Girl, it almost becomes hypnotizing. All of her spellcards are incredible, but her final is just the icing on the cake. It kinda comes back in DS as "Rose Hell".

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 12:17:56 No.16402034 Ahg fuck PoFV, it makes you feel like you need to git lucky and canceling whatever is thrown at you instead of just dodging stuff

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 12:31:24 No.16402122 >>16402034 PoFV is the most fun kusoge there is.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 12:35:50 No.16402160 >>16402034 Spamming level 2 attacks won't help you through the whole game. You still need to dodge to some degree.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 12:41:02 No.16402190 >>16400649 >Normal >25/99+ lul

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 12:42:59 No.16402202 >>16402160 >You still need to dodge to some degree. Yeah until you realize you just can't dodge a dense wall of pellets, regular bullets and hotdogs because you didn't cancel her attack on time. It's trash

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 12:49:13 No.16402237 >>16402202 And that's why you utilize your gauge properly.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 12:51:36 No.16402255 >>16402237 So you agree there is little dodging?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 12:55:15 No.16402271 >>16402255 Umm. Yes anon. Here. >>16402160 I quote it for you. >you still need to dodge to some degree

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 12:57:37 No.16402284 >>16402271 Until you realize that it's more about canceling special rather than dodging. That's up there too

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 13:02:50 No.16402311 >>16402284 It's both. The entire game is about to learn to know when to bomb and when you can dodge.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 13:13:34 No.16402343

>>16402311
It's more about just spamming level 2 and having luck with the fairies.
The fact that there are multiple occasions where you can do nothing but get hit is inacceptable, hell there isn't even a good recovery time, you can get hit multiple times if the barrage is dense enough.
Not even LoLK does this shit (that's says a lot really), you can always do something about some situation, but here if you can't use your charge attack that's it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 13:24:13 No.16402385 >>16402343 >hell there isn't even a good recovery time Not true unless you play with Youmu.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 13:24:24 No.16402387

>>16402343
The game can have difficult RNG sometimes but it's generally not bullshit. Having to grind out RNG for runs is not even necessarily a bad thing (see: photogames).

>having luck with the fairies
More of them spawn if you are unfocused, you know.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 13:31:03 No.16402405 >>16400649 Who cares about the games.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 13:33:08 No.16402410 >>16402387 >Having to grind out RNG for runs is not even necessarily a bad thing What? That's a major flaw. >>16402405 Why is this sentence composed like a question but missing the interrogation at the end?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 13:58:23 No.16402525
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>>16402385
I wouldn't say it's any worse for Youmu. You can move up while you are using your level 1 to get more range on the bullet canceling. The same principle applies to level 2 charges for any character as well actually, where the the area of effect is continuous around your character for a short while, regardless of what the visual display is.

>>16402410
It is just something you have to deal with when you have patterns that are random. Too much unfair RNG is bad of course; you have to find a balance. If everything were static it would be boring.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 14:22:16 No.16402633 >>16402410 Is that case half of the spellcards in Touhou are flawed. >>16402525 If you get hit I don't think Youmu's slash will help you and her charge speed is just too slow. Espacially if you're against Yama.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 14:31:05 No.16402663 >>16402633 It's definitely harder vs high rank Eiki. But it will still help. Mainly I just wanted to point out how good her level 1 is.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 15:39:26 No.16402960

I have some sort of curse where if I have full lives before I fight the Stage 4 boss, I will NOT get a 1cc. It happened in PCB, and now it happened in UFO. I was chokefree for the first half of the game, then lost three lives to Murasa, one or two on Taromaru, and the rest on Byakuren. Is there any way to prevent this?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 15:54:20 No.16403042 Sometimes I get a bomb extend after a stage in IN, what are the conditions for that to happen?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 15:59:04 No.16403072 >>16403042 It's exclusive to Youmu/Yuyuko, as they will get a free bomb if they had less than three bombs when the stage ends.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 15:59:21 No.16403073 >>16403042 You might be playing Yuyuko/Youmu.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 19:59:45 No.16404209 File: 470 KB, 1280x960, 1369165897119.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I heard the next fighting game will be tag team. Is it true? How do you think it will work?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 20:01:28 No.16404222 File: 30 KB, 169x133, 1476590761254.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16404209 It won't

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 20:06:31 No.16404255

>>16404209
>Is it true?
It's just speculation from what we know about the next game (incident involving people swapping places, and rumours in the human village about a "strongest duo" of youkai).

>How do you think it will work?
Personally I'm hoping for the kind of tag-team one sees in most fighting games. You have two characters which you can swap in and out of the fight at will with a button combination.

>>16404222
Oh hey shotty. Still shitposting, I see.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 20:16:25 No.16404317 File: 28 KB, 400x250, 1481949414431.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16404255 >shotty Who?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 21:02:15 No.16404579
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I recently switched to a new computer and want to run Danmakufu to see how the more intensive games fare on it, but upon installing AppLocale it refuses to let me run the game with it. It keeps saying "No profile, please run LEGUI.exe" but no matter how many profiles I make I can't change this error. Has anyone had this problem before?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 21:09:43 No.16404618 >>16404579 >AppLocale >"No profile, please run LEGUI.exe" what

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 21:26:49 No.16404688 >>16402960 Practice stage 4, 5 and 6 without losing any lives?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 12, 2017 22:46:43 No.16405035

>>16404618
AppLocale is a software that emulates different regions so you can use programs made in different languages without changing your computer's locale. Danmakufu can't be ran outside a Japanese locale or it will crash.

I managed to fix my problem by just turning my computer on and off again, I guess I should have done that before asking.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 00:16:25 No.16405343 I'd say I like Flanders's "kagome kagome". It really makes you feel like your being trapped by some insane child or something. "And then there will be none?" also gives me that feeling.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 00:17:52 No.16405347 File: 514 KB, 221x231, 1482938169559.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16405343 Lol, fucking cell phone autocorrect.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 00:25:37 No.16405364 >>16401003 That one uses every bullet type in the game, doesn't it? It was fun. I like Catadioptric because it's a 20 dollar word and the ricochet bullet gimmick is always fun for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 00:33:06 No.16405387 >>16400649 Most of Patchouli's cards because I like elemental magic, but Wood Elf in particular has a prettty pattern, good range of colour and is fun to dodge.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 00:38:52 No.16405408 >>16405035 No, I mean you are mixing up two different programs. LEGUI.exe is the executable for Locale Emulator, not AppLocale.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 00:40:06 No.16405409 File: 57 KB, 177x231, 1431478646415.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16405408 Oh. I guess I downloaded the wrong program then. Still, what I got works so far.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 01:04:04 No.16405485

>>16400649
Miko's Merry-Go-Round is pretty fun to with.

You just take the pattern Miko gives you and plan out how you take it on, but you have to factor in that the bullets are moving at different speeds and such. I was laughing when I first saw it because I tried to outspeed a bullet and it chased me down.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 01:11:50 No.16405505
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lucky yuyuko solo nmnb

the last nonspell is impossible

>>16400649
bolad and imperishable shooting are beautiful cards
vowg and pure danmaku hell are tough but fun attacks
nine syllable stabs is also really fun to graze

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 01:33:17 No.16405557 File: 320 KB, 500x362, N6WnRtn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE NEXT TOUHOU GAME? Sorry, after so long without one I can't help but being so hyped.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 01:38:07 No.16405572 >>16405557 Almost nothing. It's being made by Twilight Frontier so we know it's a fighting game, and we know characters are suddenly swapping places with each other, so it's likely going to be a 2v2 tag fighting game.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 02:33:58 No.16405741

In PCB they give you a get out of jail free button.

But it only activates after your cherry bonus maxes out at 50,000k, and you get to the bonus faster by shooting things unfocused.

You can raise bonus by shooting focused it's just pretty freaking slow.

Did I get that all down right?

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 02:41:00 No.16405756

>>16405741
Bad terminology.

You get borders (11 seconds long) by getting 50k cherry+. After you finish a border without breaking it, you get 20 frames invincibility (0.333 seconds long)

Cherry+ raises faster when shooting unfocused, yeah. You can also get it from cancels and cherry items which are worth 100 extra cherry+ for each spell capped.

There's also cherry and cherrymax but whatever.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 02:53:20 No.16405779 >>16405756 Alright, good to know. Makes SakuyaA seem generally less useful. Sticking with the red-white, it looks like. Also, MarisaB's lasers seem to fade in and out. That's just a visual effect right?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 03:25:53 No.16405868 >>16405779 Sakuya gets 4 bombs per life in PCB and her A shot both homes and does significantly more damage than Reimu A. Because of that I'd say it's the best shot type in the game. Also Marisa's lasers don't hit when the graphic isn't there iirc.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 03:37:07 No.16405911 >>16405572 As per usual, I forgot I'd posted here. Thanks anon. Also I hear something about a 'youkai duo'. Seems interesting. Are Twilight Frontier guys the same ones who were in charge of ULiL? That game was awesome.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 03:38:51 No.16405916 >>16405911 We don't know anything about the youkai duo beyond them being so powerful that presumably nobody can defeat them alone.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 03:39:05 No.16405918

>>16402387
>More of them spawn if you are unfocused, you know.
This is false.

This game is pretty mediocre already but it goes for some more. Why the hell do you lose more health if you get hit late on the match!? That doesn't even make sense! Like here, see that advantage you earned by not getting hit early like a retard? Well guess what, get hit now and you'll lose 3 orbes just because. What the hell was ZUN thinking with this game?

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 03:48:27 No.16405948
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>>16405918
>This is false.
As you can see here on the left, no more trains of faries would enter the screen while there was already another one when I was focused. When I let go of shift, more immediately started to spawn. Explain that, nerdo.

Yeah, health loss being based off of time is pretty silly.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 03:49:27 No.16405952

>>16405868
4 bombs per life is good but when I fiddled around with Reimu it felt like her bombs at least were really lacking in punch compared to other titles. That and the focused movement seeming unusually slow threw me off.

Also when I tried Sakuya's shot earlier, I thought they were better described as auto-targeted rather than homing. Like, I've seen Reimu's amulets, on their merry way out of the screen, practically reverse direction when something popped up on the screen.

It just looks like Sakuya's shots change initial trajectory based on whatever's closest to her. It's a small thing I suppose, but if the bosses move around a lot it's gonna be an issue isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:03:12 No.16405986 >>16405952 If you want Reimu's focused bomb (yes there is a difference between focused and unfocused bombs) to do more damage, try being higher up on the screen near the boss. >>16405868 I like ReimuB the most. She gets more cherry+ too.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:05:47 No.16405993 I think I'm just going to quit Touhou entirely because of how much I hate Sakuya-B in DDC. Shinmyoumaru's third non-spell makes me fucking crosseyed.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:09:27 No.16406010 >>16405948 Is that only for match mode? I went an entire round focused and didn't notice changes

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:14:29 No.16406023 >>16406010 Huh? No it's for all modes. Try seeing the difference between focused and unfocused. Did you misread what I said by any chance?

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:17:07 No.16406032

>>16406023
>Try seeing the difference between focused and unfocused.
I already did, that's what I meant with
>I went an entire round focused and didn't notice changes
Then again it is ok if you didn't understand what I meant, that sentence is a mess.
>>16405993
Why not ignore shitty shots?
Hell, why not even ignore the games you didn't like it as much? That's why some people posts different charts afaik

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:27:09 No.16406072 >>16406032 I don't want to give up because I planned on tackling Hard Mode after this run. If I can't beat a game on Normal with a bad shottype, what makes you think I can beat it on Hard?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:41:51 No.16406141 >>16405916 That's very interesting actually. Though my doubt was about something else, but I guess I'll look it up myself since that's not hard to find haha. Thanks again!

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:42:27 No.16406143 >>16406072 >I think I'm just going to quit Touhou entirely >I don't want to give up make up your mind anon, there is no shame in not playing bad categories

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:44:33 No.16406151 >>16406143 The former statement you quoted was hyperbole. Playing this makes me feel like quitting while I play. I know that you have to push yourself and endure difficulty in order to get better, but I'm struggling to endure it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:50:34 No.16406177 >>16406151 if runs feel painful you could instead just practice sections you're having trouble with or look up replays

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:52:56 No.16406188 >>16406177 >just practice sections you're having trouble with That's what I've been doing, actually. I've been playing Stage 6 over and over, both Stage Practice and Spell Practice.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 04:56:37 No.16406199 >>16406188 good luck! btw don't let the difficulty label deceive you, afaik using sakuyaB on lower difficulties in DDC can be harder than good shottypes on higher difficulties, because the shottypes are just THAT unbalanced

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 05:00:01 No.16406216

>>16406072
>what makes you think I can beat it on Hard?
SakuyaB normal clear is harder than SakuyaA hard clear and maybe ReimuA too. Just give that a try, I'm not even kidding. This was my first try http://threplays.appspot.com/replay_files/5674976526991360

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 05:33:52 No.16406288

I accidentally posted in the rabbit thread so reposting here.

"Whew, just went further than I have ever done with EoSD's extra. My run ended at Catadioptric.
Also, I thought Maze of Love was going to end my run (I wasn't mentally prepared for spinning around but aside from using a single bomb to avoid death, I managed to stay at the bottom of the screen and slip through the cracks of the spell AND keep firing at Flandre. Does anybody also do this?"

Also, progress is slow, ever so slow.

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>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 06:12:43 No.16406386 >>16406288 Man today I screwed yet another 1cc attempt on PoFV and died to Flandre's last spell when she was on the ropes. What hurts more here is that I died to fucking laevatein of all thing with a full stock of bombs and all

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 07:50:32 No.16406659

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYXKsmSkSq4
Holy.

>>16406386
Lavatein is a deceptively hard spell IMO. I've figured it out, it's just that it requires great memorization and timing. The part that always screws me up is the part where I have to stream from right to left.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 08:00:50 No.16406695

>>16406659
I see it as her easiest spell after the very first one.
Maze of love is a bitch no matter how you approach it, but I too find it better to just stay on bottom and shut at her while doing some micro dodging, problem is that I was playing as fat witch.
Her time out spell freaks me up. I still can't doing without bombing 3 times or dying (and then bombing)

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 08:07:46 No.16406723

>>16406695
I was also playing as Marisa (A) and, like I said, I had very little trouble dodging stuff after bombing once. Can it be a matter of luck or is the spell completely static?
I never made it up to her last spell. That said, I managed to capture Cranberry Trap on that run so it was good. I have some hopes to make it through, even if I'm just a Normal shitter.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 12:07:17 No.16407693

>>16406659
>>16406723
Try watching a replay. Lavatein is actually pretty easy once you know what you're doing. Also, MarisaA is probably the best shot type for Flandre.
>>16406695
I always had problems with Cranberry Trap, but that's just me. I even managed to capture her last spell, but Cranberry Trap always gets me. Keep in mind that Reimu having a smaller hitbox is PCB onwards: in EoSD they both have the same hitbox.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 12:33:09 No.16407808

>>16407693
>Reimu having a smaller hitbox is PCB onwards: in EoSD they both have the same hitbox.
dang, I always seem to forget this.
Cranberry Trap is not hard at all, you just stream from the middle to bottom, then from mid-bottom to middle and then to the bottom again. If you are using anything that isn't ReimuA then she should be death by this point.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 12:33:40 No.16407809
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I've been trying to 1cc Mof for like a month now, but I'm stuck at Stage 4, specifically Momiji and the fairies right after her. I always lose 1 or 2 lives right there, and then I get to Aya and she picks off my remaining lives. It doesn't seem like streaming works for this part unlike most of the stage. Any tips for these parts?

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 12:38:23 No.16407822
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>>16407809
Why not just bomb the fuck away of the entire stage?
You can easily gain power back too, and if you don't bomb Aya's non spells then you get some power so you can bomb her spells.
Just bomb everything until your problems are solved

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 13:45:22 No.16408080 >>16407809 Just bomb that shit dude. The bullet density gets quite unbearable at that precise moment and it usually walls you. A single bomb is enough to clear the wall, usually.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 14:28:05 No.16408269

>>16407809
Are you talking about the last portion of the waterfall patterns?

Those big bullets the fairies shoot seemed to be the root of my problems when I tried out the stage. Think they're targeted at you but they're pretty slow so you they'd just creep up on you while you're trying to dodge the other things.

Had some success trying to misdirect those shots so that they weren't aimed at me when trying to pass through the gaps in the walls.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 14:42:12 No.16408313 Actually beat Eiki with Youmu with 1 extra life. woah why? I played like shit the whole run. At least now that I have got the ending I wanted I can't stop ranting like a child

Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 14:58:01 No.16408404

>>16407822
>>16408080
I always thought Alu Akbar-ing your way through a stage was seen as shamefur dispray by players, but I'll go for it. Thanks dudes.

>>16408269
Yeah, honestly both the two fairy bits before and after the first wave of bird dudes always get me.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 14:59:05 No.16408411 And now, I made it till "And then will there be none?". This spell is awful, holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 15:05:16 No.16408444 >>16406659 And here I thought Lunatic HRtP was hard.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 16:05:46 No.16408726 >>16408444 But lunatic HRtP is easy

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 16:52:34 No.16408933 File: 30 KB, 327x384, fb0ed8359344eddcffbf6f14a371c003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16408726 Normal HRtP is hard

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 17:10:57 No.16408994 >>16408933 Normal HRtP is easy

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 18:14:26 No.16409282 >>16408933 Just chain the score items. Get ALL of them, even if it means dying while reaching them. Dying doesn't reset the score chain.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 13, 2017 20:18:21 No.16409731 And another SA 1CC~

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 00:12:58 No.16410813 >>16409282 What works better for scoring on Hell route: Allahu Ackbar the nonboss stages or try and get the point items?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 00:23:14 No.16410847 >>16410813 I'd say 9/11 the stages if you can deal with bosses somewhat decently

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 02:25:03 No.16411237
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>>16409282
You mean the P white balls that occasionally drop? Why are they so important?
Also is the number of default lives really 5? That seems to generous, but really it isn't important since no matter how many lives I have, the second boss on the makai route has bullets than can't be blocked and go fast as fuck
Sorry for all the questions but I never see this game being discussed here

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 02:30:21 No.16411260 File: 2.67 MB, 273x206, 1451502780067.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The run was going great! Until I met Myon

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 02:31:51 No.16411267 >>16411237 Default lives is 2. (2 reimu's at the top) And the P items add up if you dont want to use bombs on stages, I believe they max out at 51,200 points per item if you dont drop em. And for HRtP, thats a lot.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 03:49:11 No.16411424
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Is it me or Cirno's level 2 attack just makes it worse? It was near impossible to dodge all the shit that I froze a long with the other bullets
I had a shitton of extra lives luckily

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 07:29:11 No.16411941

>>16411237
>>16411267
The P score items max out at 65530. At that point, farming lives becomes really easy. I suggest deleting tiles little by little, instead of making the orb swing like crazy: there's a risk of two P items falling away from each other and, even with the slide maneuver, you'd be forced to lose one of them, resetting the chain. Be careful with tiles placed near the bottom of the screen: if one of them drops a P, you won't have much time to grab it. You could focus on tile combos for scoring, but that requires you to never let the orb touch the floor and it's much harder, especially with warp points that sometimes shoot out the orb at crazy speed.

I actually suggest to keep the bombs for bosses because: bombing on the stage might make P items spawn at the opposite sides of the screen (see above); in certain occasions (Elis' lasers if you're not below her for example), some boss attacks are almost unavoidable; finally, when you have 0 lives, bombs damage bosses.

It's always nice to see people playing HrtP, it's a very underrated game.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 08:10:08 No.16412086 >>16411941 Inputting a bomb is such a hassle though. A lot of times it just doesn't come out (Z + X)

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 08:30:18 No.16412147

>>16402202
>Yeah until you realize you just can't dodge a dense wall of pellets, regular bullets and hotdogs because you didn't cancel her attack on time.
Spoken like someone who has never played PoFV netplay with a good connection, nor knows the immense satisfaction of squeezing through such clusters unscathed.

If I had to rank the three most important skills in PoFV, I would say they are
1. Offense (Bullet bouncing via fairies, knowing when to hold your fire)
2. Dodging
3. Knowing when and where to drop gauge.

>>16402633
>If you get hit I don't think Youmu's slash will help you and her charge speed is just too slow. Espacially if you're against Yama.
Anon, Youmu is already annoying to face and capable of slowing games down as is, she doesn't need even better defensive capabilities than she already has.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 08:31:57 No.16412153 >>16404209 It's clearly an expansion to ULiL. Also, Tag Team Fighters are awful.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 08:37:25 No.16412170

>>16411424
Cirno's Level 2 is fantastic for creating more destructible bullets to bounce, along with freezing them to allow her the chance to reflect them.
That said, she can't convert hot dogs in this way, which results in her match up vs. Eiki probably being the worst in the game. Her level 2/3 do more harm than good sometimes, here.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 08:40:27 No.16412184 >>16412147 >Spoken like someone who has never played PoFV netplay Of course fucking not, why would I? This is a 1player game series. Why would there be a multiplayer game as main game like that? It shouldn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 08:42:10 No.16412189 >>16412184 The third game in the mainline series was multiplayer, you dork. It was established early on that mainline games can be multiplayer.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 08:44:31 No.16412198 >>16412170 Yeah I was complaining especifically about the final match because I didn't have any problem throughout the game with her. I guess that's what let me afford to lose 3 times against Eiki.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 08:46:25 No.16412206 >>16412189 The 3rd game being like that means jackshit when the series is in it's majority just vertical danmaku. That's like saying that every game should be like HRtP

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 08:49:52 No.16412213

>>16412198
I know, that's why I mentioned the Eiki bit, you are justified in feeling that way in regards to Cirno vs. Eiki.

>>16412206
Honestly I would accept a new mainline game thay plays like HRtP.
I'm not saying "every" mainline game should be Phantasmagoria, anyway. You're just jumping to conclusions and looking for a reason to feel angry.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 09:04:35 No.16412266
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>>16412213
nah I'm perfectly calm about my anger.
It's perfectly ok to be angry at a game that is clearly different than all the others in the series but claims to be one of them. How does it claim it? By not being a X.X game for example.
Also, it IS problematic that you need to have multiplayer experience to enjoy the single player one. I have a good example of another series in which the main games are 1P and got hurt when the last release was designed for multiplayer in mind, since it messed up the general design, but that wouldn't be on topic.
I bring this up because I won't stand for being called out on not playing netplay on a game series that is first a foremost for 1P

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 09:14:44 No.16412302

>>16412266
>It's perfectly ok to be angry at a game that is clearly different than all the others in the series but claims to be one of them.
It's the same as 3.
If you really need a way to contextualize it, every Windows mainline game since PCB has had a gimmick thay defines the gameplay and how the player interacts with the game. PoFV's gimmick is simply competitive multiplayer, and ignoring that is akin to ignoring UFO's UFO gimmick entirely, or claiming that LoLK is unfair while refusing to try PD.
Besides, multiplayer or not, PoFV is still a vertical shmup in the way it plays.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 09:22:49 No.16412328

>>16412302
Barely.
If you are gonna approach it that way, then we have a problem and that is that the other gimmicks aren't as intrusive.
You can play PCB without borders
You can play IN without worrying for time orbs or even the team mechanic due to solo shots
You can play MoF without worrying about faith
SA is perfect
I would dare to say you can do fuck all about ufos in UFo and still play well
Same for TD
DDC might be a bit annoying, but it capitalizes on using the PoC which isn't anything new and still doesn't put another fucking screen to your side.
LoLK has legacy to make up for PD
PoFV... you can really play this like you would play any of the others. You say it is still a vertical shmup? Well the versus part changes quite a bit, so no, it definitely is quite different and it's the primal reason a lot of people are at odds with it.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 09:35:07 No.16412367

>>16412328
Except you can enjoy PoFV perfectly fine with solo play. Multiplayer is just a bonus. That's how it is for me.

When I look at PoFV's singleplayer mode and compare it to other games in the series, it's decently high up there.

If you compare borders, UFOs, time orbs and poc to PoFV, then you should compare them to PoFV's singleplayer scoring system instead of it's multiplayer. Because that's not something that should be ignored either.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 09:39:45 No.16412377 >>16412367 Then why bring up netplay? (>>16412147 )

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 09:40:34 No.16412382 >>16412377 Two different posters, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 09:44:41 No.16412396 >>16412382 I won't have that. PoFV solo play is affected by mechanics designed for multiplayer and hinder it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 09:47:12 No.16412400 >>16412396 >and hinder it In what way?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 09:51:40 No.16412409 >>16412400 It's all over the thread already

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 11:36:12 No.16412708
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Finally got her.
Boy, her survival spell got me off guard, it made me waste a stock
You guys were right, MarisaA made it easier, but I should try to do this with B next time.
And fuck I accidentally skipped the dialogue trying to getting the screencap

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 18:00:09 No.16414436 I have friends that are self-described "fucking secondaries!" that like Touhou. Some of the characters looked cool, but it seems sad to shoot away others and being "fucking tertiary!" doesn't sound good. Should I bother?

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 18:04:06 No.16414459

>>16414436
Try one of the games out. You never know if you'll like it until you try.

I knew about Touhou since 2008 and thought it was retarded because of secondaries' representations of the characters. I eventually decided to give it a try at the end of 2015, and realized it was nothing like I had expected it to be and found it really fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 18:07:51 No.16414485 >>16414459 So the divide in primary/secondary isn't a result of order of entry into playing the games? I'll try one from around 2008 then.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 18:11:11 No.16414510 >>16414485 Play PCB or IN first probably, or EOSD if you actually plan to get into the series.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 18:13:12 No.16414523

>>16414485
No, not really. What determines if you're "primary" or "secondary" is if you can recognize what is and isn't written by ZUN.

Subterranean Animism was released in 2008, but I personally think Mountain of Faith (2007) is a better game for beginners to shmups. If you've played other shmups before, pick any, you'll probably find almost all of them rather easy.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 18:16:36 No.16414543

>>16412184

You're making up arbitrary rules for what touhou games can and cannot be and trying to claim that by not being the exact same type of game they somehow "can't" be mainline games and are automatically worse. Whether POFV is a mainline game or a decimal game is completely irrelevant, either way it's the same game. Even if it somehow did matter whether it was different than other games in the series 4/15 games in the main series have strayed significantly from regular vertical danmaku games, that's nearly a third of them. At that point can you really claim that mainline touhou is purely about standard vertical danmaku?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 14, 2017 23:30:10 No.16416075 File: 142 KB, 1475x783, progress.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Need to finish 2.5b. Hopefully this month.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 02:33:28 No.16416592 File: 390 KB, 480x566, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the trick to beating this slut?

Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 02:36:10 No.16416605

>>16416592
What parts are you having trouble with? If it's the part with the lasers aimed directly at you the trick is to strafe back and forth in a U-shape. Once you get near a corner, move diagonally up quickly to misdirect them and then go back around. It looks complciated but it's basic streaming; just don't sleep on the random swords, be sure to adjust your movement to dodge if needed.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 04:25:36 No.16416816 >>16414485 Are you asking what the divide between primary/secondary is?

Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 10:39:58 No.16417820

>>16414485
The divide in p/s is what draws you into Touhou and it's the reason you call yourself a fan of it.
Primaries are those whose interest in the series started because of the main games. Secondaries are the ones that like touhou because of secondary work.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 10:46:06 No.16417835 >>16417820 I wouldn't say it's necessarily "started," it's just what your main interest is. You can start out as a secondary or tertiary fan and then play the games and become a primary fan.

Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 10:58:13 No.16417888

>>16417820
>Primaries are those whose interest in the series started because of the main games.
I must object to that definition, as it implies that an individual can't become interested in the primary material after starting as a secondary. How do you define people who are interested in both the mainline games and secondary fanworks? What about people who aren't into the series for the games, but for other canon works like official manga and music cds?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 11:10:58 No.16417929 >>16417835 >it's just what your main interest is Yeah, this is exactly what I intended to say.

Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 15:03:35 No.16418803
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for anyone who cares, a "new" demo of this got uploaded earlier
all it does is add a music room though, it still runs like shit, there's no new stages, it's buggier than before, and you still can't play as shinmyoumaru

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 15:13:21 No.16418839 File: 11 KB, 184x184, 1383347551841.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16418803 >mystery moisture

Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 16:00:23 No.16419047
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>>16412708
>You guys were right, MarisaA made it easier, but I should try to do this with B next time.
I personally found ReimuB to be easier, because of her screen coverage, relatively high damage and mostly of her otherwise shit bomb, which really shines against Flandre (Short duration, allowing you to attack Flan right after a tight spot, a real life saver for me in Catadioptric, while also clearing all the bullets.)

Anyway, good job pal, will you any other extras now?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 16:04:15 No.16419064 >>16419047 >will you any other extras now?

Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 16:10:29 No.16419104

>>16419047
>will you any other extras now?
Well, I think I'm close to beat Hecatia. Last time I got smashed by those moons, which I believe is near the end. But right now I would like to focus to get on getting my first lunatic 1cc, I have been delaying it for a while now.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 16:17:42 No.16419148 File: 776 KB, 514x667, winkwink.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16418803 >Promised mystery of moisture

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 18:28:16 No.16419840 >>16400649 >With the medicine made by my power, and Eirin's true strength, you'll never forget this as long as you live! Hourai Elixir takes the top spot.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 19:43:50 No.16420151 File: 242 KB, 980x735, 611671614d49f59fa709909364d15daa9cba9ea6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ok, what the FUG am I supposed to do during possessed by phoenix?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 19:50:35 No.16420176 File: 1.04 MB, 1000x718, 1392776743834.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16400649 Alice's last spells in PCB are pretty, I like them all. Kagome Kagome is very fun to dodge too

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 15, 2017 19:58:20 No.16420200 >>16407822 Sacue of the comic?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 16, 2017 00:05:51 No.16421036 >>16419148 >winkwink.gif >no winks

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 16, 2017 01:27:57 No.16421284 >>16405505 Wow, impressive. Do you plan on running any of the other shot types? My grazing in IN Extra isn't nearly up to snuff for a proper scorerun.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 16, 2017 02:07:29 No.16421408 >>16405505 replay?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 16, 2017 04:01:58 No.16421839 >>16420151 Marisa is cheating!

Anonymous Mon, Jan 16, 2017 05:26:06 No.16422084

>>16420151
Circle the screen on the first, third and fourth waves. On the second wave, start at the bottom of the screen, and what I do is tap up to the beat of the music. It's a fairly tight squeeze, so try to minimize your movement with each tap. Use spell practice.

This is also how people do this card when they scorerun with a youkai.

Anonymous Mon, Jan 16, 2017 12:41:27 No.16423127
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>>16411237
>>16411941
Just 1CC'ed the game on lunatic here, Hell route, starting lives set to minimum (3). I ignored P balls unless I could reach them easily and focused on hitting as many card as I could without letting the orb touch the ground, and it seems like playing that way gives you a lot more score and lives. Bombing right on the beginning (before the orb hits the ground) and on the right stages helps a lot too, I left stage 15 with only one last life and stage 19 filled me again (then panicked on Konngara and finished with one live).

Anonymous Mon, Jan 16, 2017 20:07:37 No.16425008

Has anyone evaluated oneself as playing too aggressively?

I've recently caught myself doing much better in games when I'm running blindly than when I've actually practiced the stage, and I think it's because I play more cautiously when I don't know what the stage will present, and then I get a better idea of what's going to happen and I clip a bullet trying to POC or playing with objectives other than only survival.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 16, 2017 21:35:46 No.16425311 I think this question gets asked a lot but where do I download the game? I'm trying to play Embodiment of Scarlet Devil but the official website link is a trial and all the other websites are pretty shady. I'm sorry for being so stupid

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 16, 2017 22:03:01 No.16425422 >>16425311 nyaa.se, there's a 7.51GB torrent with everything.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 02:39:36 No.16426183 I want to play touhou.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 02:52:36 No.16426221 >>16426183 They're super easy to pirate, so get googling. Or just go to moriyashrine or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 12:59:50 No.16427775 File: 649 KB, 640x480, th001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I feel like this is suppose to be a freebie card. I'm having better luck capturing it unfocused than focused. How do you guys capture it?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 13:00:01 No.16427777 I can't seem to get any Ultra patches working, except for the LoLK Black Label one. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? I've tried both on WINE and Windows.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 13:01:03 No.16427782 >>16427775 That card annoys the shit out of me. I can always last a little while, but ultimately her rhythm gets too fast for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 13:01:27 No.16427785 >>16427777 Are you playing with vsync on?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 13:04:52 No.16427794 File: 12 KB, 347x111, Screenshot at 2017-01-17 11:04:02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16427785 In some cases, yeah. I can't even tell if the patches are being applied, though, all I see is mojibake.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 13:08:14 No.16427806 >>16427794 I'm not sure. I just thought that having vsync on might be why it wouldn't work.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 13:17:46 No.16427828 >>16427806 I figured it out, I had the files named wrong. I guess the patch file absolutely has to be th07u.exe

Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 13:22:04 No.16427839

>>16425008
I have very aggressive play but I play more aggressively when blind, because I'm not retarded enough to deviate from my route (assuming I have one). Also playing aggressively is fun, even if it may kill me every now and then, it's definitely the more fun playstyle for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 15:52:10 No.16428391 File: 295 KB, 800x773, 3203eec2a4ab5dba7aa3dc9aa2eee8c9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I always thought Mima was just a meme character but DAMN she's actually pretty awesome in Mystic Square. Her max power shot makes my dick hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 16:09:12 No.16428460 >>16428391 This post reminds me how anyone who uses meme as an adjective is a dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 19:40:27 No.16429292 >>16428460 More than half of the 4chan users are dumbasses.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 17, 2017 19:46:40 No.16429325

Made it up to 76% of Phantasm stage in PCB. I'm not even mad I lost, Ran Shikigami surprised me and zipped right at my face. I didn't know this shit was aimed. Also lost a lot of resources quite stupidly but I wasn't counting on completing it tonight.
Still, pretty fun, I'm getting the hang of it. I also captured Yukari Yakumo's Spiriting Away (this card is quite dumb when you think about it). Perhaps I could have completed the card but the Border between Human and Youkai happened to be too much of a pressure for my tired and uncaring mind.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 07:24:04 No.16431642 Let's speculate about touhou 16: I think Kaenbyou Rin will be stage 1 boss, and scoring system will be revolving around point item value and a bullet cancelling hyper similar to PCB.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 07:56:23 No.16431737 >>16431642 Everybody will call it a shit like always. Duh

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 08:04:53 No.16431761 >>16431642 Kogasa will be the extra boss.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 08:04:59 No.16431762 File: 313 KB, 1000x995, 60927142_p32.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16431642 >I think Kaenbyou Rin will be stage 1 boss

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 09:44:50 No.16432052 File: 2.32 MB, 1500x2000, c3be0e6bf1e3a427dbe55c1ffc18cd99.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tips for Yukari's 1st spellcard?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 10:47:06 No.16432262 File: 508 KB, 640x479, ss+(2017-01-18+at+09.43.51).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] captured 29 VoWGs out of 50

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 11:04:32 No.16432311 >>16432052 Learn to tap. Ran's is actually harder.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 13:30:51 No.16432800
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I did it
Finally a 1cc on GFW
I thought I was going to be fine with 600 motivation on A1-3 but I barely made it
How do you unlock extra?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 13:58:08 No.16432909 >>16432311 Wut? Not guy above but Ran's only requires a small tap with every attack but I still haven't figured out how to do Yukari's.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 13:58:44 No.16432910 >>16432311 Whoa, so I'm not the only one who thinks that. >>16432800 Anon...you need to 1cc every possible route to unlock Extra.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 14:08:29 No.16432943 File: 9 KB, 200x200, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16432910 No way >>16432311 I agree. Yukari's give you way more space to move

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 14:11:23 No.16432954 >>16432943 Well, once you get your first 1cc, getting those on other routes becomes easier. The problem is Extra itself.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 14:33:26 No.16433012 File: 619 KB, 640x480, th002.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] やっと >>16432800 congrats!

Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 16:03:30 No.16433360

>>16432052
The blue bullets are aimed and the green ones aren't. Stream the blue ones while mainly focusing on dodging the green. Before you get to the end of the screen you'll need to misdirect the next wave of aimed bullets before they're launched by moving upward then come back down and stream to the opposite side of the screen. repeat until you capture it.

>>16432909
Maybe they're talking about her first Non-spell card.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 16:34:03 No.16433473

>>16432052
>>16432909
You can stream it with taps at the beginning when it's slow, but when the card starts picking up, you should alternate moving diagonally up and down. The timing to move is when the blue/light green bullets get close to you, or when the next wave of those same bullets haven't aimed at you yet. You want to be very close to those bullets so you don't have to worry about the darker green bullets. No misdirection required.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 17:34:18 No.16433719 >>16433360 >Maybe they're talking about her first Non-spell card. I wasn't.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 20:47:57 No.16434387
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I want this to be the year I finally defeat Flan, but I can barely even put practice in right now.

I'm sure it sounds pathetic, but my place is so poorly heated that my hands become cold and stiff and playing anything more than turned based games is a challenge.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 20:56:20 No.16434438 File: 1.03 MB, 801x586, i just wanted to post this.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16434387 Stop making excuses you fucking faggot.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 21:03:01 No.16434458

>>16434387
Don't let that overcome you, you can just warm up your hand one way or another and then keep practicing, they won't go cold like that. Or you could play SA.
It's 37° C outside and probably 40 inside my room here. My laptop feels like it's about to blow up

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 21:12:08 No.16434497 >>16434387 That sucks. >>16434458 I went 2 summers recently without air-conditioning. Falling asleep in those kinds of temperatures is the worst.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 21:53:05 No.16434687

>>16427775
Uhh, the Hard version can still be captured full focused, but if you're more comfortable going unfocused, by all means keep doing it that way, the Lunatic version forces you to do so anyway.

I start focused and count the lanes, and on 10 I let go of focus, I feel that way deals the most damage

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 21:57:32 No.16434705 >>16434438 i'm browsing and typed this right now with gloves on.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 18, 2017 22:15:33 No.16434760 >>16434687 I stopped trying to capture it focused. I didn't fail at all today on that card and I 1cc'd it earlier tonight.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 02:54:22 No.16435542 Anyone got an unpatched th08.exe lying around? The Ultra patch only works on the original Japanese .exe, but all I have and can seem to find is a pre-patched version.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 03:29:32 No.16435607 >>16433473 Dude, just do it like this: https://youtu.be/qUKVEH5GetE?t=20 It's easy as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 06:29:57 No.16436015 >>16435607 That's Ran though, dude is complaining about Yukarin

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 09:49:15 No.16436601 File: 67 KB, 496x432, 2017-01-19-104758-maim.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16435542 http://ran.2hu.moe/yatrqo.exe Here you go, just rename it.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 10:48:47 No.16436807

>>16432909
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57796584/replays/th7_04.rpy
Here's a NMNB up until the last three cards (where I spaghetti all over because I haven't done them in forever).

Yukari's bullets aren't shot all at once but the streams are spaced enough that you can still dodge them all in one tap for most of the time, and even when you can't you still just tap a bit more. You shouldn't have to turn around. Ran's card is tighter and requires better timing to not mess yourself up. It's still simple, but Yukari's is definitely easier if you aren't bad at tapping.

>>16433473
Diagonally? Wut?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 13:48:55 No.16437395
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>>16432954
>getting those on other routes becomes easier
Damn, you were right. I just defeated every fairy at least once now, so I'm halfway there.
How do you guy deal with Luna's non spells? They are a pain.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 14:10:16 No.16437521 Fuck the UFOs so much. Why did ZUN think this was anywhere near a good idea? Why did he put such a shitty mechanic in a game with good music?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 14:23:59 No.16437599 >>16437521 Why can't you just git gud? Why is it so difficult for you to put in some effort? Why do you have to whine so much?

Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 18:10:59 No.16438468
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Holy fucking shit, B1 fucks you harder than life itself, any tips for this ice fairy hunter? The route in itself is pretty shit too

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 20:14:39 No.16438880 >>16438468 out bully the bully

Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 20:26:06 No.16438904

>>16438468
You'd have to specify points you struggle on the route, B1 has the most dodging out of any route.

Tips for Luna would be ignore side fairies on all the spells, although you can hit two fairies with one shot to recharge twice as fast, only really useful for nons. Her 3rd spell I would just stay in the middle, the side fairies fire aimed shit, so not very dangerous. Overdrive is aimed too, if you weren't aware. Try not to be bad, but you probably knew that.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 20:30:09 No.16438918
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>>16438468
She fucks me too, I barely beat her. The only thing I can give you that might help is my 1cc, and it might not even help because of how many times I bomb and die during her fight.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=42322 Hopefully I uploaded it right, I've never put a replay on the website before since none of mine are anything special.

I'm aware I'm over the threshold of acceptable slowdown in this replay, I was playing on a mega-toaster at the time and parts of the game just dragged things to a crawl with how much ice was being destroyed. I really don't want to have to beat this route again for the sake of getting one with acceptable slowdown.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 21:04:18 No.16439049
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>>16438904
Overdrive was savage. It was too late before I noticed it was aimed, I was low on motivation both in game and out by then.
>>16438918
OH LOOK AT ALL THAT SLOWDOWN
It's alright bro, I'll check it out, after all this is the last route I need to clear on normal in order to unlock extra so I really appreciate this.

This route also has Dai as midboss which is a pain in the ass

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 21:05:40 No.16439055 >>16439049 Like 60% of my runs ended against Daiyousei, but that might be because I play super aggressive on Stage 1 for the sake of collecting motivation. Her second attack is such an RNGfest.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 21:19:46 No.16439107 >>16439055 wat, you're not gonna get more than 2 damaging freezes on second non for motivation, so just side shoot the charge up. Revenge bullets will help with the first freeze aswell.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 21:31:23 No.16439149 >>16439107 I thought Normal didn't have revenge bullets.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 21:41:14 No.16439186 >>16438918 I noticed you ice gauge sometimes charges real fast, like from 0 to 30 real quick in the first stage, how do you do that?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 21:44:21 No.16439199 >>16439186 You gain charge for grazing. If you go right up to a fairy when they shoot something like a circle of bullets you'll graze them all, though you need good timing so they don't expand and hit you before you escape.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 21:47:09 No.16439208 >>16439199 >You gain charge for grazing That's um... oh. Damn it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 21:57:08 No.16439250 >>16439208 Don't feel bad, I didn't know either until I got really frustrated working on my first 1cc and checked the wiki.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 22:06:48 No.16439305 >>16438468 I figured this might help more, dunno how I died but just bomb those parts I did die on xD http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=42323

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 22:08:53 No.16439317 >>16439305 >>16438468 Although I wouldn't really copy stage 1, I was just messing around to see what normal was like.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 22:11:42 No.16439328 >>16427794 Install Japanese locale `LC_ALL=ja_JP.UTF-8 wine th08.exe` ctrl+c on the dialog box to copy text

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 22:49:01 No.16439472 File: 752 KB, 640x480, th128_ud0005 (GFW) Normal 1cc - B1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh fucking finally, my heart, oh god. >>16438918 Thank you, your replay was very useful, never got that much motivation in the first stage before

Anonymous Thu, Jan 19, 2017 23:16:02 No.16439575

>>16435607
Wrong stage, my man.

>>16436807
Perhaps this is best shown with a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYnYtfEmxWA&t=6m17s

This method also works with Marisa and Sakuya. Obviously, it shouldn't take as long as them to finish the card as they're grazing for score. It's the easiest and cleanest way to do it as far as I know.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 20, 2017 00:48:48 No.16439887 >>16439575 >Perhaps this is best shown with a video. I get it. Is probably safer if you're comfortable with the movement, agreed. For first-timers you should probably just get the tapping down properly, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 20, 2017 02:02:36 No.16440064 >>16439887 You can do it with normal tapping, but it's much likelier that you'll collide with the dark green bullets. The most important thing is to know when to tap so you don't move too much.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 20, 2017 03:11:26 No.16440258
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I don't know if there's a more debilitating experience than practicing a stage for a session that lasts more than an hour and only actually reaching the boss without resetting once. I hate Sakuya-B so goddamn much, I think the only reason I haven't given up is stubbornness.

Can someone look at these Stage 6 replays? These are the two best replays I've cobbled together so far, and I do different things right/wrong in each of them which is why it's not just a single replay. Any and all tips would be welcome with the exception of "stop using Sakuya-B" because I won't accept that advice no matter how true it is.
https://mega.nz/#!hFABnaBQ!torNY3wf3BAYZFBx96aYgIthl-wADnmhEFzisyNH04E

>>16439472
I'm glad it helped, anon. GFW is a bitch regarding difficulty, I consider it harder than SA and UFO to me.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 20, 2017 10:56:54 No.16441755
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So wtf are those red knives in GFW hard mode and why the fuck I can't even beat the first fairy
>>16440258
Curse you, now I wanna beat the game with that shot too and I lost to ''Shining Needle Sword''

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 20, 2017 11:45:30 No.16441960 >>16441755 >wtf are those red knives Revenge bullets, son.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 20, 2017 11:49:00 No.16441972 >>16441960 The transition to hard mode from normal will be painful won't it

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 20, 2017 11:56:01 No.16442000 >>16441972 Only if you don't know how to stream. Is recommended that you beat the extra first, otherwise be prepared for some light routing.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 20, 2017 15:06:56 No.16442685 >>16441972 GFW is easier on Lunatic than Normal, all thanks to the revenge bullets.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 20, 2017 16:36:28 No.16442992 >>16442685 Maybe for people who are too retarded to graze and shoot.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 06:24:55 No.16445917 Is it considered more difficult to 1cc a game on normal or to simply finish a game on hard?

Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 06:25:27 No.16445918
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>>16400649
Asked /v/ for advice but with no avail, so I'll ask here.

I'm having trouble capturing "You Grow Bigger" in DDC with SakuyaA. Do you guys have any tips for it?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 06:29:07 No.16445925 >>16445917 Normal 1cc I'd say. With continues you have enough bombs to avoid all the hard parts.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 06:30:48 No.16445935 >>16445925 What about games with limited continues like EoSD?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 06:48:08 No.16445989 >>16445918 DODGE

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 06:59:15 No.16446045 >>16445918 Spell practice, watch a replay, it's pretty ass with thiccboxes, if you're just going for 1cc you will probably be able to bomb it quite a lot.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 07:06:42 No.16446077

>>16445935
In earlier games, you can change the lives per credit to make it easier. 10-12 have unlimited continues, so those are just a matter of perseverance. 13-15 have limited continues, but to unlock practice you only need to get to the stage rather than clear it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 07:10:21 No.16446088 >>16445935 >>16446077 Thought your post was a reply to a different one, my mistake. 13-15 give you more credits on higher levels I think. Regardless, I'd say it would be easier to clear all games on hard than 1cc normal.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 15:27:12 No.16447896 I haven't played Touhou in quite a while but I picked up LLS and got all the way to the end of Yuuka's very last attack on normal (99.82% done). I can't believe I made it so far rusty.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 15:33:33 No.16447921 >>16445918 Bomb

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 15:39:42 No.16447947 >>16447896 That's because LLS is the easiest Touhou game of all.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 17:35:51 No.16448541 Medicine is pretty tough, I mean I can barely even fucking move. I'm bothered by something, I have seen people say that you need like 3 extra lives by Eiki so you can win, but how? Even if you don't miss, you barely get such amount of extra lives

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 17:48:26 No.16448634 >>16448541 Score dude, spam your level twos and try not to endlessly spam shot during downtime.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 18:06:21 No.16448749 >>16448634 I got my 1cc anyways, I think I got very fucking lucky at the end. Yeah I realized I might be shooting way too much when nothing is happening at all

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 18:34:10 No.16448886 >>16405505 >>16421408 Seconded, I want to see this in action

Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 19:34:10 No.16449177
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How do Tewi players on PoFV?
I just unlocked her and she seems pretty good. I like how she controls, only flaw I can see it her scope.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 19:58:12 No.16449267 File: 620 KB, 639x479, good stage.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Getting better and better. Wish me luck!

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 20:14:12 No.16449319 Does any have a template for the any of the progress charts?

Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 20:22:50 No.16449352

>>16445918
It's really just a matter of knowing your hitbox. There are some times where I prefer going backwards after dodging a wave to give myself more room to dodge the next. Also remember to not stick to the bottom of the screen, moving upward and downward to misdirect the bullets works just as well if you're near horizontal boundaries of the screen, I always dodge vertically when the small bullets are getting ready to change direction.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 20:30:10 No.16449389 >>16449319 Here >>16059415

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 21:33:46 No.16449669 I haven't played any of the games past EoSD, which I just failed to 1cc on Lunatic at over 99% completion. Fuck me. Which games are the best after EoSD and which can I easily 1cc on Lunatic to make myself feel better?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 21:36:29 No.16449689 >>16449669 PCB!

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 22:35:48 No.16449910 >>16449669 IN's deathbomb system makes that a bit easier than average

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 22:41:22 No.16449936 >>16449910 This meme again?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 22:47:33 No.16449957 >>16449936 Sure, it's not good for score runs, but tell me an almost-guaranteed extra life for every two lives you have doesn't make it a bit easier?

Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 22:57:49 No.16450014

>>16449957
It creates bad habits. Most people just wait until they get hit and double bomb, instead of bombing beforehand, wasting resources in a game where the spells can become quite crowded, more than the previous 2 at least.
Why not mentioning that destroying familiars/slaves takes away some of their danmaku? Or that a lot of spells and non spells rely on having familiars around so if you destroy them, the attack becomes a joke (Keine's non spells come to mind) That's what makes IN easier than other games.
Oh and spell practice.

Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 23:15:21 No.16450090

>>16450014
I'm not advocating for abusing it. I myself am taking a large break from IN to prevent myself from getting too used to it. And I know about all those other tricks too. I'm just saying that you can use deathbombing to get much further than you otherwise would.

>Spell practice
Why the hell wasn't spell practice in every Touhou game since anyways? Coming from IN to another game it's a little frustrating to have redo a whole stage if you just want to practice a particular spell card that gives you trouble

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jan 21, 2017 23:45:14 No.16450198 >>16450090 >Why the hell wasn't spell practice in every Touhou game since anyways? I don't know, but if TD and DDC had them, they why the hell doesn't LoLK, the game that needs it the most? I mean, PD doesn't do what Spells practice allows you to.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 07:03:51 No.16451598 >>16450198 Because LoLK is a good game

Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 07:12:37 No.16451619
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>>16446045
>>16447921
>you will probably be able to bomb it quite a lot.
Well yeah, I could do that but I don't want to waste a million bombs at the same time.
Last time I practiced it in a normal continued run, I ended up wasting 9 bombs...NINE.
I'm fine with bombing, but I want some degree of dodging skill on that card so I don't waste tons of bombs in it.

>>16449352
>remember to not stick to the bottom of the screen, moving upward and downward to misdirect the bullets works just as well if you're near horizontal boundaries of the screen
I'll be damned if that works with Sakuya's giant ass hitbox but I'll give it a shot regardless, thanks.

>It's really just a matter of knowing your hitbox.
That's the million dollar question. Where is my hitbox indeed?
Is it a square, a circle, the white part or the outer red part or something else?
If I had a way of knowing that, I would have almost no problems dodging it.

>>16445989
Already trying to do that, pls no bully.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 07:44:09 No.16451703 >>16451619 Press shift

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 08:12:20 No.16451770 >>16451703 The problem is, the hitbox seems to be larger than the sprite during that spellcard.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 08:16:29 No.16451777 >>16451770 Because it is

Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 08:30:06 No.16451806

>>16451619
Honestly, it's not just you having trouble with that card. That spell is bonified bullshit to pretty much everybody. Literally the best advice you're getting, to bomb, is just about as good as you're gonna get. Beyond that, just follow the empty trail in the white knives, then just bomb when the blue ones start coming it, because you're probably gonna get hit. Your hitbox is way too big to be able to dodge them effectively.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 18:01:50 No.16453924 File: 87 KB, 810x539, 1481305112656.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30452665

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 20:59:39 No.16454510 >>16445918 Late, but there's a very faint circle outside the hitbox's dot sprite. That's basically your real hitbox as Marisa/Sakuya on that spell

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 21:09:26 No.16454545 Something very hateable about IN is that if you lose on 6B it still shows you an ending

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 22:00:52 No.16454723 Would a controller make things easier or harder?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 22:22:24 No.16454818 >>16454723 I'd say harder, personally. Having one finger per input really helps.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jan 22, 2017 23:42:35 No.16455128 >>16454545 What are you talking about? You get a bad end immediately if you run out of lives on 6B, you don't even get a choice to continue.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 00:00:10 No.16455186 File: 689 KB, 639x479, ss+(2017-01-22+at+10.53.55).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] mmmmm

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 03:58:19 No.16455733 File: 475 KB, 639x479, ss+(2017-01-23+at+02.53.24).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2.436b made some mistakes here and there sadly getting warmer at least

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 04:25:30 No.16455778 >>16454723 It's preference. If you find it better then use it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 04:52:16 No.16455821 I wish EoSD gave you more than 2 lives for stage practice. If I'm practicing the stage it's because I suck at it, obviously I can't beat or practice the entire Remilia fight without bombing the shit out of everything at my current level

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 05:05:03 No.16455850 >>16454723 A pad is less precise than a good keyboard, but clearly more than enough seeing as most of Japan prefer pads, and do very well with them. In the end it comes down to preference.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 05:40:43 No.16455971 >>16455821 Remilia is hard so you don't have to feel bad about anything. Remilia is probably one of the hardest final bosses on Normal mode.

Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 05:50:31 No.16456015

>>16455971
Definitely. I basically bombed everything she did on my first normal 1cc. I realized it probably wouldn't cut it on Lunatic though, because I will not get to her with 4-5 lives unless the rest of the run ends up being amazing. But every spellcard of hers is really hard to become consistently good at

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 05:56:15 No.16456038 >>16455971 Personally I never felt like she was that hard other than her last two spellcards, I had way more issues with some of the other final bosses. To each their own though I guess.

Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 08:34:10 No.16456556

Do you guys think it would be a good purchase if I got this? I mean, it is translated already and such though I like physical media:
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10092466

Also, do you think these spellcard images signify anything? Like, helping you know how the pattern works?

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/The_Grimoire_of_Marisa:_Cirno's_Spell_Cards

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 10:11:55 No.16456805 >>16455128 I said it shows you an ending, not which one. I mean, I just lost, naturally I want to start again/quit the fuck outta the game but I have to wait for the thing to end or just kill the game, it's tedious.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 10:16:00 No.16456818 >>16455971 Even Yuyuko was harder than Remi for me

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 11:26:01 No.16456994 Byakuren > Junko > Remilia > Yuyuko > Kanako > Kaguya > Utsuho (I haven't played td and ddc)

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 13:12:46 No.16457350 >>16456994 What criteria are you ranking them on? Difficulty, personality, spell card creativity, etc.? Also what about Eiren? She's a final boss too.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 13:20:25 No.16457399 >>16457350 Difficulty. Forgot about Eirin, I'd put her between Kaguya and Utsuho

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 13:26:19 No.16457426 >>16457399 ok how the hell Utsuho the easiest, how the hell is Junko easier than Byakuren and why the fuck isn't Yuyu the easiest? I'm curious

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 13:40:35 No.16457467 >>16457426 Utsuho only has one threatening attack and that's her first spellcard. Junko has a lot of bullshit but her spellcards are a bit easier than Byakuren's in my opinion. She doesn't have anything that's as difficult as LFS

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 15:13:08 No.16457716 What is currently the best emulator for the pc98 games? Is it np2fmgen?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 15:20:32 No.16457731 >>16457716 I use it because of touhou launcher shenanigans, it's good but I can't play shit on it mostly because 1. I'm on a toaster 2. It's very hot here and toaster overheats quickly.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 18:25:11 No.16458377 >>16457716 T98 is the most accurate to my knowledge. Anex86 is inaccurate but it's toaster-friendly.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jan 23, 2017 20:48:52 No.16459000 >>16457716 np2 always performed like garbage for me, while T98 runs perfectly both on Windows and Linux with a $30 celeron.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 11:54:30 No.16462134 Is there anything harder than the last levels and extra of StB? Is this game even for humans?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 18:21:49 No.16463860 How do I prevent Toramaru from ripping me apart before reaching stage 6? I feel almost claustrophobic with those spells.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 19:04:15 No.16464034 >>16440258 Bumping this request because I still haven't gotten any better runs four days later. I hate this.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 19:16:37 No.16464081 >>16464034 I'm going to help you as soon as Eiki stops cheating me

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 19:17:46 No.16464085 >>16464081 Good luck. Eiki sincerely gives me more trouble than Yumemi, despite PoFV having better mechanics than PoDD.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 19:50:51 No.16464261 >>16464085 >PoFV having better mechanics than There is a more broken game than this shit? wth.

Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 20:11:18 No.16464351

>>16464261
PoFV is a refined version of PoDD. Take any problems you have with PoFV, magnify them, and then add larger hitboxes and remove focus mode, and you have Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream.

PoDD still has better music, at least, and I like its overall plot of "college professor from the SCIENCE dimension travels to Gensokyo to try and gather proof that magic is real" more than "people are turning into flowers because Komachi is lazy." Strawberry Crisis will never be topped as a final boss theme, only Solar Wisdom and Pure Furies compare for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 22:16:42 No.16464960 Is it just me or is Sagume way easier to beat than Doremy? It took me nearly an hour to beat Doremy, especially her fucking nonspells but I beat Sagume in less than 5 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 22:33:00 No.16465052 >>16464960 Reisen?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 22:41:18 No.16465087 >>16465052 Yeah Does she change with different characters?

Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 22:45:50 No.16465113

BoLaD - rising intensity of all types of bullets at once.
Thousand Needle Mountain - Beautiful as hell, attacks from all sides, reading streams when trapped is fun.
Sun Goddess's Sacrifice - Dense, restrictive, multi-staged.
Express Night Carnival - The rush of huge bullet walls passing you by and forcing you to move around is too good.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jan 24, 2017 22:47:25 No.16465119 >>16465087 Sagume uses those ying yangs to cover herself and shoot at you. Reisen unlike Marisa pierces, so that's way more damage you do than what she is meant to receive. Since you are destroying the ying yangs you also get less stuff to dodge

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 12:52:45 No.16468257 Damn, that Byakuren is a tough bitch. Even with 3 extra lives, I still failed at the last spell card. Sounds like Utsuho all over again.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 13:23:41 No.16468386 >>16468257 Her last spell is quite easy as long as you don't fall in her game. Her spell previous to that one tho...

Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 13:37:08 No.16468435

>>16468386
I didn't find the previous spell to be particularly difficult, though I wanted to reach the end so I unloaded everything throughout the whole fight. But I'm tired and didn't want to bump my head again and again against this stage.

It's quite saddening when you consider that what's making me lose an unnecessary number of resources is actually Murasa. Having a survival spell so fucking early isn't playing fair.

Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 13:44:41 No.16468464

>>16468435
I used to rant about that spell too, but then fucking around with Marisa I learned it is not as difficult, you just circle around the screen.
The one I don't understand yet is Shou, and I don't think I'll do since I cleared UFO with the shot types I liked already

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 13:48:38 No.16468479 >>16468464 Toramaru is actually nice. Hard but a nice fight. The only spell that is actual bullshit is the green cross that turns and warps. Even Yukari's cross in PCB is easier than this shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 13:51:16 No.16468490 >>16468479 This. So much this. I see I'm not the only one who found Yukari's spell easier than that goddamn green cross.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 14:41:52 No.16468731 >>16468386 Is her penultimate spell brutal on Lunatic or something? I play on Normal and found it to be her second-easiest card, the easiest being her second spell.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 14:42:30 No.16468735 Thoughts on Marisa B in SA?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 14:46:30 No.16468757 File: 27 KB, 400x633, Touhou Achievements.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16468735 She is the only shot I didn't get a good ending in SA so far. Btw my progress, posting it because I might need a break soon

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 15:39:36 No.16468997 I keep dying randomly to cirno and meiling in all my runs i hate eosd

Anonymous Wed, Jan 25, 2017 15:51:06 No.16469038

>>16468735
Water is great. You can use it pretty much everywhere and you'll be fine. I'm not saying "everywhere" because Parsee would laugh at me. Just turn it on during stage 3 and 4 and fire away. Pretty nice to fight against stage 3's boss too.
Fire is for bosses but it doesn't seem to be very powerful. In fact, I compared with other shottypes and it takes quite a long amount of times to get rid of a non-spell compared to other shots. But I think Marisa is general is rather weak compared to Reimu in this game.
Wood is only for those times where you have to rotate around the boss or are stuck in a bad angle. That said, I've read it is quite powerful but I'm never using it.
Metal is even more niche and is good against Parsee. I can also definitely see the use against Utsuho during *that* spellcard. Otherwise, it's never.
Earth is... well... good for Parsee during the last spellcard. I guess.

Her bomb is definitely the least useful because if you deathbomb, you'll most likely won't be able to benefit from it other than the invincibility frames (which are fewer than for other bombs, if I'm not mistaken), unless you're on top of the boss. However, if you know a spellcard is going to fuck you up, just drop it right on the face of the boss at the beginning of the card. It will deal some tremendous damage if you can land the part where all 5 mini-bombs "converge" and you can be safe for the beginning of the spellcard.

I love this shot type because there's the Water formation. Otherwise, it's objectively not awesome at all.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 26, 2017 21:02:14 No.16474969
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>Died to Chen
>Doesn't matter, keep going
>Lose my last life against Yuyuko's Resurrection, 3 fucking seconds left
And because of stories like this, reset every time you fuck up in the early stages boys.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 26, 2017 21:03:22 No.16474974 >>16474969 You'll never know who I was quoting because I might end it off now btw

Anonymous Thu, Jan 26, 2017 21:37:10 No.16475101
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And another SA 1CC.

Marisa A kicks ass with the right positioning. Also, having 8 bombs, as weak as they may be, really helps. I thought I'd never make it when I escaped Heaven and Hell Meltdown with a single life and full power but unloading carefully at first, then firing away near the end turned out to be quite effective.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 26, 2017 22:01:21 No.16475178

>>16474969
Are you me ? That happened like just yesterday.
As for my case, I've been doing perfect no-bomb no-life practice runs up to Stage 3, but when I did a deffinitive run, I've been dying to menial shit, even going as far as backing against a bullet and hitting my back against it.
Just kill me.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 26, 2017 22:04:41 No.16475196
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>>16475178
I think what fucked me the most was Yuyuko's opener. I can never seem to get it right, and it lasts for too long. It hit me when I had 2 lives and 3 bombs, then i bombed her due to the frustration and left me with only one life, 1 bombs for the rest of the fight. The icing on the cake was that it was the last barrage of red butterflies that got me.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 26, 2017 23:00:30 No.16475372
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>>16474969
Most of my 1ccs are ironically the ones where I don't reset after losing a life to something dumb early on. I'm sure I win despite that rather than because, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jan 26, 2017 23:24:32 No.16475442 >>16475372 I'm usually like that too, and it works, feeling secure is where it is at. But no, I can't just let it pass. No one should steal from me, not even my wife.

Anonymous Thu, Jan 26, 2017 23:36:29 No.16475482
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And here I was happy because earlier I did this..
At least I have no more excuses to not play SA on hard now.
But enough of this shit, how have you guys been doing? This thread was pretty quiet, more than usual.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 04:41:44 No.16476401
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>>16475482
I haven't been playing much. When I do play, it's been exclusively Stage 6 of DDC with Sakuya-B, trying to shape myself up so I can stand a chance in a full run.

It's demoralizing. Trying hard not to quit, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 05:03:56 No.16476482 >>16475482 Hey, you got a nice score! You didn't bomb much, I take it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 07:49:34 No.16477105 >>16475482 I've been getting closer and closer to a lunatic 1cc in EoSD. I'm pretty inconsistent though and I even die or bomb to Cirno a lot of the time, which means I never reach Remi with enough lives

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 11:24:06 No.16477811 So my run was perfect with no continues until I got to Stage 5, where I used one, then Yuyuko's battle literally took all my other continues. Anyone had the same problem, and does it get better ?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 12:49:28 No.16478200 Any tips for UFO Lunatic?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 12:54:49 No.16478223 >>16477811 Yeah, you'll be okay. Just practice a lot against Yuyuko.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 14:04:32 No.16478508

>>16478200
I'm not good enough to 1cc it but imo the best thing to do at first is to learn a route through every stage to maximize lives/bombs. It might be possible to get carried through the game by your resources with good planning
Otherwise just practice the difficult patterns I guess

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 14:36:01 No.16478604 >>16478223 That's my problem, I've yet to actually finish, to to practice against her I need to do a full run, cuz I didn't unlock Stage 6 Practice Start and all that jazz. Oh well, the more I try, the better.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 14:36:30 No.16478607

I had forgotten how pleasant fighting against best gi- I mean Yuyuko-sama was. Also, Sakuya B PCB 1CC.
I could do the others but this copy of PCB had the extra already unlocked for some characters even before I played it so I don't see any meaning yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 14:37:04 No.16478609 >>16478604 *so to practice I need to think before I type, damn.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 16:23:32 No.16478942

>>16478604
If you download a replay and watch it once, you can unlock the stage for practice mode.

Otherwise, try to manage your resources better until you get to Yuyuko, and then bomb the shit out of her. If you can get to her with even a few continues, you can beat her just by strategically bombing through all of her attacks.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 16:49:47 No.16479038 File: 421 KB, 679x889, 1463729062676.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just choked and lost to kaguya even though I had the resources to finish without problems. I swear to god, I'm not using Marisa ever again.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 17:06:50 No.16479107 I wanted to test the famous Marisa B bug. Shit, I literally brute forced my way through the extra and died on the penultimate spellcard because I was rushing like crazy. This shit is ridiculous.

Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 17:08:51 No.16479121

>>16478942
>download a replay
Never ever, I know I'm just making it harder for myself, but I ain't a cheater.
Also I'm pretty sure I could've actually beat her, it's just that I haven't played for like a week due to IRL shit, so my deathbombing got cranky and I lost lives in places where I shouldn't have (AKA anywhere before Stage 4, I pretty much mastered the first 3 before my hiatus). Practice makes perfect, I'm sure I'll pick up the pace back up.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 17:35:04 No.16479235 >>16478942 You cannot unlock stages with replays like that for PCB. It's only for Mountain of Faith as far as I'm aware. >>16479121 Watching replays or practicing is not cheating.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 18:37:07 No.16479454 >can't stop getting stupid deaths Why? Sometimes I move my character INTO the bullet. When will this madness ever stop? I'm not blind, I can recognize negative space and go inside of the negative fields, but god damn.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 19:07:52 No.16479605 >>16479235 Oh, if that's the case, I'm already doing it, kind of. Someone uploaded Yuyuko's spellcards individually on Youtube, so I watch those for reference, specially Swallowtail Butterfly. Good lord does that one always get me.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jan 27, 2017 19:17:59 No.16479667 >>16479235 >Watching replays or practicing is not cheating. Unlocking stuff with the replays is cheating though

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