Kantai Collection -KanColle-

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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air superiority calculator/fleet builder:
http://aircalc.net
http://kancollecalc.web.fc2.com/air_supremacy.html
http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html

Combat mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit guns for BBs:
Others: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724
Iowa: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14q3M_N9HXVC0g2Jp9gA42qkEChq0EeHKeWHn7Hrt1L8/edit#gid=961378818
Warspite: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HHpzOklOtf0l4UaKRQ5_5kKXoFfTK6qGFAXBvzJmemI/edit#gid=0

Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me

Drop/construction statistics:
http://kancolle-db.net
http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList

Voices/sprites/furniture preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer
Electronic Observer (JP): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserver
Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/silfumus/ElectronicObserver

PS Vita game: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA

The KanColle movie is out. Movie trailers: https://youtu.be/7udGu_a0AvY https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E https://youtu.be/aTxaSuB_Fv8

News:
-The New Year's season has ended. New Year's seasonal lines, sprites (including haregi sprites), furniture and limited-time quests have been removed and replaced by January and winter furniture, and winter voice lines for Mutsuki, Ushio, Okinami, Asakaze, Yamakaze, 10 other destroyers, and Yura.
-Equipping both a turbine and a boiler can increase a ship's speed from Slow to Fast or higher speeds, depending on the ship type. A ship with a speed higher than Fast will only have higher evasion for now, but will enjoy more benefits in the future. A fleet of ships all with speeds of at least Fast counts as a Fast fleet, but ship type-wise, only Fast Battleships will count as Fast Battleships.
-Improved Ship Turbines can now be equipped in the expansion slot created by a Reinforcement Expansion.
-Enchanced Ship Boilers and F4F-4s can now be upgraded to New HP/HT Boilers and F6F-3s respectively, both of which can be further improved.
-Two new quests have been added: a sortie quest rewarding either an Improved Ship Turbine or Enchanced Ship Boiler, and a factory quest rewarding a furniture worker.
-The max stats of the following ships have been buffed: Ayanami (+1 torpedo, +7 luck), Ushio (+1 firepower, +2 AA), Hatsushimo (+2 firepower, +1 HP) and Shigure (+9 luck).
-Yura has received new resupply and idle lines at Kai.
-The Winter 2017 event will be a relatively small event starting during the first half of February.
-The next Kai 2 will be for a CA. Saratoga will also get a second remodel.
-The 5th year of KanColle will see foreign ships from "interesting places". Matsukaze, Hatakaze and/or Yuunagi will also be implemented early this year.
-New submarines, Akizuki- and Matsu-class destroyers, and escort carriers are also under plans to be added.

[Anonymous No.]

First for the fastest.

[Anonymous No.]

What's with dumb nips and their backwards writing? It just looks outdated and retarded t b h f a m

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>>16391777
At the cost of being gimped.

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>>16391777
What the fuck is wrong with her neck lol

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>>16391783
Gimped is what everyone else will be when Tanaka starts going batshit crazy with speed routing.

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>>16391789
I wouldn't be surprised if speed routing was important for one event. It's too big of a mess.

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>>16391800
Speed routing is important for a long time now, with all the shit that is thrown at slow ships.

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>>16391807
What good will this update bring when your ships can't even beat the enemy?

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>>16391817
Suffering.

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>>16391822
Really only looks good for transport desu.

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Does anyone here genuinely like Shimakaze? I do.

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So which reward am I suppose to get?

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>>16391834
Me.

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>>16391817
It's like you expect Tanaka to make this game FUN.

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>>16391828
You can take Akitsu Maru! But only with one ortwo slots free for daihatsu or Reppuu - I'd rather take CAV with fighters.

>>16391834
She's nice, one of my higher level DDs (~#10?)

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>>16391828
Could maybe work for yasen maps.

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>>16391834
Ou!
I'm sexually attracted to her, not sure if that qualifies as "like".

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>>16391834
I always liked her and her design. I am perverted and horny after all.

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>>16391834
I do.

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>>16391836
The one you have less of

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>>16391834
I like most ships, especially DDs.

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>>16391836
You can craft both so pick whatever you have less off, which is probably the turbine if you ever got some Amatsukazes.

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What do?
How do I into turbine, I already scrapped all of them thinking +13 is enough

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>>16391860
10/100/200/10

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>>16391781
It is outdated and is not often done anymore for single horizontal lines of text, but Kantai Collection harkens back to WWII when that was the standard.

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>>16391851
Are you a lolicon, mister?

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Why don't the devs release more ways for people to get decent equipment outside of events?

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>>16391843
How?

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>>16391674

They should have done more with the certain ships can craft certain equipment mechanic, rather than leaving it only as Pasta Ships can craft the Pasta Seaplane.

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>>16391866
I am.

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>>16391866
Possibly, though I generally prefer the a bit more older looking ones.

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>>16391817
well. I can actually train aux ships in 5-4 now, so it's not too bad.

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>>16391900

You could in the past at the cost of a bit extra fuel if you used 3 radars

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>>16391887
Well you're not gonna be having any space for yasen equipment but two guns and engines in the rest of the slots could work.
Seriously though I think the super speed will probably just let you take some short cuts in maps at the cost of stuffing engines everywhere, not be a requirement.

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Secret level when.

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>>16391913
I managed to find the secret level in 3-3 since I sortie there all the time but I can't be fucked searching other maps

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Now Tanaka can make events where you either go all fast+ to reach the boss through a short route or take Hayasui to be able to make it through the normal 5+ nodes one. How much fun is that?

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>>16391922
Unless he makes the enemies really weak I don't see how this is a good idea.

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>>16391760
I'm quite excited for all the new ships coming

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>>16391939
I'm excited for the Kai Ni!

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>>16391934
No he doesn't. People keep bitching about events being too easy and here is the solution. You either sacrifice efficient equip setups to take a normal route or take Hayasui and go through shit routing with better ships/equips.

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>>16391939

All 3 of them?

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>>16391939
I'm very excited for two new second remodels we will get this year!

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>>16391834
I like her, but she's got cursed HP. Nothing a ring can't fix though.

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>>16391952
Sounds like p2win either way.

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>>16391922
>>16391952
Truly the cancer killing kancolle, I even prefer the old compass sending you out randomly over this "you are forced to bring highly suboptimal fleet and/or equipment or you get sent out / reach boss with zero ammo and fuel always" shit.

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>>16391952
I never complained. Shitty people like you did though.

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>>16391987
This.

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>>16391991
I am actually a Kusofag and would prefer kuso difficulty to be kuso easy, but all these new shitty gimmicks keep making the game harder and harder to the point that i will never qualify to go above medium, or stick to kuso forever.

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What did the Shitia mean by this?

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>>16392008
You don't know about second boss node of 2-4? Sounds like you won't be getting the turbine.

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Now we need equipment that makes fast ships slow.

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What's the point in making speed change with a sonar + depth charge combo mechanic if the fast ships have the advantage (again, especially the cranes) by needing only 1 slot + hole while slow ships have to dedicate half their slots just to be fast? Just cut out the middleman and add something like the duck gun with the built-in fire director or a foreign engine with much stronger propulsion. On top of that they still didn't make Shimakaze the fastest ship by default. Also, I really like how Kaga and Nagato can never ever gain speed, pretty brutal but historically accurate.

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>>16392022
It's bullshit that Kaga who was faster than Yamato can't reach the same speed.

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I hope we get videos of Nenohi and Hatsuharu soon. God they are so much cuter in the SEGA arcade version.

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>>16392022
New boiler+turbine equipment coming soon la
Shimakaze Kai 2 coming soon la

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>>16392032
>>16392022
Reminder that ship design matters just as much as installed power and machinery when it comes to ship speed.
Reminder that Nagato lost speed by WW2 probably due to being old as well as extra equipment added on to her.

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>>16392032

Just wait for Kai Ni. Maybe she will remain slow but she will be the best Jet carrier.

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>>16391834
Why not?
She's the reason i played this game

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>>16392053
I doubt her firepower will ever be as high as the cranes. Even as a jet carrier she will continue to be an AA mule.
That said I doubt a potential Kaga K2 or Akagi K2 will use jets. Will they get Medium range? Maybe. But more than likely they will get their Midway outfitting like the Dragons.

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I really don't like this pay to win model.

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>>16391834
Don't really care for her default art, but I love this

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>>16392071
Unless Tanaka starts handing out more expansion slots during events or makes a quest for them it's really looking that way.

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>>16392071
I wish this game were more pay to win because I make a lot of money but hate grinding, hate the game, and hate myself.

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>>16392082
If you have a lot of money, you already won.
Install hole on every ship and give them infinite megami.

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>>16392082

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>>16392082
Buy reinforcement slots then. And Fast suck barrels.

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>>16392092
And screws

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>>16392082

It is indeed pay to win from the start and now even more. You can just buy goddess and punch holes, event can never be easier than this.

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>>16392053
>dies first in the most important battle
>old tactics carrier
>old in general
>old planes, so low stats
>only good for bombing chinks
She's shit anon, I don't even know where the "Kaga is Tanaka's waifu" even came from, it's obviously Zuikaku or Fubuki at this point.

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>>16392092

Fast suck barrels are old and busted. Ultra fast routing is the new hotness.

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>>16391834
Her only good things are her stats, which sadly have been superceded long ago due to power creep.

When I first came upon this franchise and saw her I thought of her as just being another girl of some generic franchise. Only later did I learn of Kantai Collection being a popular thing, so I thought, why not try the game.

During my repeated lottery failures I read the wikia and learned about the important mechanics and during that time I saw her good stats so I thought "she's one of those I want to keep multiples of". I still have my first two copies.

[Anonymous No.]

HAYAI

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>>16392100

The K2 would be "what if" just like the cranes.

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>>16392082
Time for you to play FGO.

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>>16392104
I love Yuu!

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>>16392124
And there was no what if until after Midway because that was her end.

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>>16392101
Okay then. Screws.

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>>16392147

Not like the cranes last long enough to get the catapult in the history anyway.

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>>16392147
>>16392124
How about Midway planes combined with the fact she has medium range referencing the plans for the catapult? No jets though.

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>>16392150
I've bought so many screws my main problem is running out of devmats.

My life is in ruins.

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>>16392100
>dies first in the most important battle
Because of fuck up of other people and awful luck. Even Enterprise would sink there if she was in Kaga's situation.

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>>16392155
Oh yeah.

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>>16392152
You're forgetting the plans for them were considered, not at all for Akagi or Kaga, hence the what if remodel.

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>>16392164
There no plans for them having armored decks though. What if remodel can be anything.

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>>16392152
>>16392164
If Japan had any use for carriers in the late period of the war there might actually have been a focus on upgrading them, but by then they were out of aviators, out of planes, and out of fuel.

I mean the war was already completely done by that point, but all the work that went into building Taihou, Shinano, and all the other late-period carriers honestly should have just gone into building hundreds of Type 5 AA guns instead.

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>>16391834
Definitely, Shimakaze and Wo-class is the reason i got hooked up in Kancolle.

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What's the prerequisites for the new BB quest?
I don't seem to have it.

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>>16392167
>What if remodel can be anything
Yeah, that's why the ones that existed before so far are remodels that were within the realm of possibility had they survived long enough and not crazy jumps in power just because muh irrelevant waifu.

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From all these "what ifs" discussion, I am curious about the new naval warfare will be like. Imagine WW3 broke up tomorrow, what strategy is more important? I keep hearing that CV is the most important part of a navy because of AS and BBs are obsolete since WW2. Is there any chance for large ships to make a come back?

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>>16391834
Sure, she's pretty cute.

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>>16392230
Modern naval warfare mostly plans for engagements that occur beyond the horizon. The only thing that is likely to make any sort of difference is the possibility of railguns that work, but that won't bring back huge ships.

This is a huge and complex subject so you're honestly probably better off asking /k/ about it.

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>>16392100
Pretty shit crew as well to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck I missed that final new year's quest.

Was the new furniture worth it?

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>>16392273
Not really, its just boring white scroll with some puke green on the sides.

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>>16391834
I like you!

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>>16392273
>not having the yamakaze scroll
You are making Yamakaze sad

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>>16392313
Who gives a shit.

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Will extreme speed faggotry finally kill the game? The event is small scale but this makes me worried.

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>>16392315
I do, so stop being rude..

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>>16392326
Did she love you back, anon?

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>>16392313
Who?

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High Speed Transport Operations. You need six light ships of at least ultra fast speed. No weapons allowed unless you added slots to each girl.

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>>16392326

A new type of abyssal that uses ramming attacks will be introduced. Fast+ ships can avoid getting rammed.

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>>16392346
Abyssal kaiten when?

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>>16392346
Or a new type of abyssal that sucks out your fuel and ammo unless you have Haiyasui with at least one barrel.

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>>16392358

Mega Maelstrom?

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>>16392346
The time has come and so have I.

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>>16392313
She has OK calligraphy, for a shit girl.

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I guess with the turbine and boiler update, we can finally temporarily fix Saratoga's evasion until her evasion gets buffed on her K2.

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>>16392365
Maelstrom Hime would be an interesting enemy, like a manifestation of ship and equipment wreck that was swept by underwater streams and currents, similar to Jellyfish Hivemind Saratoga.

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>>16392180
Shinano was a waste. I understand Taihou she was laid down before the war began but Shinano they decided to complete when waters were crawling with enemy submarines, and of course both the Philippine Sea and Leyte had already happened.
I understand they wanted a ship similiar to Hms Unicorn after Midway that also could serve as a distraction but by the time she was ready there was no point to her. Unless they were planning on using her as a mobile Kamikaze base.

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>>16392155
Buy devmats then.

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>>16392372
You could already do that before the update. The only difference is she can go at high speed plus now.

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>>16392372
I don't know, doesn't seem worth it for her or for the likes of Taihou to give up a plane slot unless the map is piss easy and or you have more than 2 CVs maybe.

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>>16392393
>>16392394

I mean, we can temporarily fix Saratoga's evasion by putting the turbine or boiler on her expansion slot without sacrificing her plane slots.

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What if the next event shipgirl is an African-Amercian, who will be the artist?

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>>16392407
I suppose.
Very cute Sara.

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>>16392407
Pretty sure you can only put the turbine in the expansion slot.

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>>16392443
(You).

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>>16392443
Yoshinori.

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>>16392443

What if the next event shipgirl is an Aussie?

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>>16392471
What if the next event shipgirl is a Slav?

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>>16392480
Please be Polish or Dutch.

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>>16392480
>>16392484
I don't remember any slav ships fighting with japs in ww2. So no slav ships for you.

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>>16392489

Because Teste fought japs?

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>>16392489
More like Slav ships barely fought period.
I don't think you need to fight the Japanese to be in KanColle.

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>used to look forward to new remodels
>then they slowly came
>now they are very rare despite having +100 girls in stock and very active artists
>event in 4 weeks
>STILL no remodel in sight
Anyone losing interest? Looking forward to a new remodel gave me a reason to level them or even play, but seasonal art is not the same. Only artists end up having fun.

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>>16392498
The French did fight the Japanese. Saratoga for example met Richelieu when showing the British how to do operations in the Pacific.

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>>16392504
I want to see who is going to make it in for the British, American and French Fleets first. Then I will stop playing, maybe.

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>>16392509
That means you don't have to worry. It'll take at least a year or more to get one or two more ships from any of those navys.

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>>16392504
With the long as fuck event maps, continuous adding of new gimmicks and lack of kai nis I'm losing interest on playing pretty hard, yes.

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I see. Not as bad as I was expecting.
I wonder if the F6F-5 will be up-gradable too as it's the most probably upgrade after the F6F-3.
Then I wonder if there will be a plane after that.

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>>16392515

Another Brit could be as little as four months away.

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>>16392525
I guess F6F-5 will eat Reppu.

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>>16391834
One of my favorites. She's so good that even her scenes in the anime were good.

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>>16391834
The only thing I don't like about Shimakaze is the trap cosplayer doujin porn.

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>>16392545
Reppuu

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>>16392552
烈風

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On slow ships:

Honestly, only Jun'you and Ryuuhou get anything out of this since they have one throwaway slot and can go fast now. Houshou (and maybe Hiyou) is the only CVL who's fucked since she'd have to give up a third of her planes.

Mizuho wants to go fast, but has to choose between doubling her first plane slot count or getting a minsub. Teste's installation hitting capabilities have to take a hit, but that's all she loses.

Fast Fusou and Ise can work, but only if you're going Zuiun mule for whatever reason. Katori loses out on OASW unless she's married, unlike Kashima.

This is all assuming you get expansions for all of them. Otherwise, only fast Ryuuhou, fast Zuiun mules, and fast married training cruisers can happen without being too horribly gimped.

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>>16392551
this meme came from china

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Why is Tanaka such a fagtron who can't even revise speed system WoWS-style, i.e. measuring speed in actual knots? LoS-style speed thresholds would make much more sense than
>fast freet onry!
routing.

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Do you like Arashio?

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>>16392628
I liked her quite a lot in the past but the feeling waned after ~half a year. She's okay.

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>>16392586
His team sucks at programing i guess, as it's easier for them to add new mechanics than to fix existing ones. Faggots.

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>>16392586
Well the thing is I'm not sure if you can average out the fleet speed since the speed of a fleet depends on the slowest ships.

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>>16392641
That is the point. Set the minimum speed requirement and not "everybody who's slow suck, duh".

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>>16392480
I'd like Fumikane to draw a few snow niggers for CanThis.

>>16392586
That's what I was thinking after I read the update notes. Numbers would be better at this point.

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>>16392586
For what? It was separated by categories. Having individual speeds only makes it worse. This new super speed will only be useful for transport missions, which is where it mattered a whole lot more.

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>>16392655
> snow niggers
Hey, that might be true, but those words cut deep, man.

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>>16392660
Also, this got me thinking that it would be pretty cool if you could shorted expedition timers with this new speed. You could finish ex 2 in 15 minutes.

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>>16392672
Does this make them money?

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>>16392564
I think its more like this is just some silly way to balance out the -evasion for when the bulge has to be used.

Event wise, they could be planing to just have a transport fleet with 1 or 2 barrels and the engines
to just make the fleet a little more evasive while not adding guns and torpedoes.

anyone tried slapping on the turbines and boilers on their crit magnets. See if it does anything for them. not like it would be useful anyways.

>>16392672
if only

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>>16392100
46.

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>>16392660
Why not extend current categories and not add fucking new ones on top? Revise all ships in very slow/slow/average/fast/very fast and you have covered all the speed spectrums. But noooo, that would be the easy way out. It's better to just strap on additional speed and have slow ships keep sucking (with fast ships coming next), while throwing equipment setups out the window if you want to have an easier time in the future event.

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https://exhentai.org/g/1015447/553b0bcca1/

God save the queen!

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VqG0rOv8N0

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>>16392728
>default Kinugasa
Its amazing how terrible it was, not even as 3D rendered model could save it.

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>>16392653
Honestly, it wouldn't be too bad if they only added the possibility of bumping slow ships to fast. Adding another tier based entirely on equipment is the shitty part, since now there's a very real possibility we get superfast speed routing. So not only would slow ships have to nerf themselves to gofast, but fast ships have to also nerf themselves to get even faster. And those slow ships would have to basically cripple themselves to go superfast,

The one possible saving grace is superfast having absurdly easy routing. Best case scenario, superfast gets you a short trip to the boss, fast/slow gets you the usual challenges. Worst case scenario, superfast routes are not different from old fast routes fast/slow get E4'd. Absolute cancer scenario is superfast carrier fleet vs Wolocaust nodes.

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>>16392741
Shut your mouth up, fag

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>>16392748
>since now there's a very real possibility we get superfast speed routing
No anon. It's outright stated we will get it.

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>>16392748
It's even worse because they added not one but two tiers of higher speed, and none of the existing fast ships that were really fast got any bonus out of it, which means both slow AND fast ships got shit on.

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>>16392767
This. If ships like Shimakaze were moved up a tier, there would be something good about this update. However it is bad news only. Absolutely nothing positive.

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>>16392758
Well, shit. Better get on improving that AA.

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>>16392683
You are retarded. First of all, KanColle is nothing like WoWS since one is focused entirely on combat and the other logistics and management. Second, having speeds slower than slow only makes things worse for routing and the player. Hotels go from useless to just don't craft them anymore and the auxiliaries become beyond useless. This would also make Kaga average, ruining any combined fleet or even single fleet speed she is in because she is a huge crutch. Everyone freaking out over muh gimped fast hotel is a retard, this was clearly intended for an event involving heavy use of transport sorties, probably under the cover of night like the real IJN missions, which explains the speeds faster than fast and the devs implying it would have future use.

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>>16392798
But Hotels are the fastest of all slow ships.

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>>16392798
>Hotels go from useless to just don't craft them anymore
Good. Which means you can just skip straight to Maruyu. Or Taihou/Akitsu Maru if you want daihatsu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392753
No, her Kai 2 saved her.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this Tanaka's dakimakura?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392798
Oh yeah, superfast transport missions with the bare minimum of weapons will save you from crits as well as have any slow, and even fast ships, that try to reach that speed will totally not be gimped to shit. You know you woldn't be able to get an A on autumn E-1 if you had to sacrifice 2! (TWO!) fucking slots to make your ships go faster, thus fucking over your OASW or ASW in general, while still getting crits all over the face.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, I forgot today was maintenance. Who got the kai ni after all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392903

Shimakaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392903
Takao. Fucking bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392903
>kai ni
Yeah, about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392903
we don't even have a single hint yet my dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392903
>kai ni
What's that? Is it something you eat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392903
Kinu.

[Anonymous No.]

https://exhentai.org/g/1015078/ed8426b5c3/

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392831
Super fast transport would apply only to the main fleet and they are not even suppose to use guns, that's the difference since they are the ones transporting while the escorts protect them and would also greatly increase their gimped evasion so you don't end up with C ranks. Also stop exaggerating, the only hard transport maps ever were the AV Hime double Ta map and Kolombangara mostly because of the PT Imps, Toukai and Catalina are going to save the day. Route support makes those maps a joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392939
>Toukai
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392939
You need A rank for TP to matter. You won't get A rank without guns or torps.

PT Imps were non-issue on transport maps. None of the transport maps was joke. If anything, they're above average in difficulty because they require double support for good chance of success.

[Anonymous No.]

I wanna make this old lady feel young again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392939
I was just making an example.
And how would your superfast main fleet survive crits again? How exactly will your combined fleet have fast+ or higher speed if only the main fleet is speedboosted? You know you would have to sacrifice escort fleet firepower for that? And say that's not the case, how will your fully outfitted escort fleet protect the main one from getting shot with a chance for crits that ignore evasion?
There is just to many ways Tanaka can screw up the use of this speed mechanic in the next or future event for me to stay calm.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392985
Weren't the Kongous 30+ knots?

[Anonymous No.]

I still can't equip engines on expansion slots.
Did I miss something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393006
Only the turbine, engine is too big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392504
I think I'd be fine even if they never added another Kai Ni. These days I find myself more worried about them than looking forward to them anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393027
Hatsuko, Jiji, Yoshinori or Amamiya Kai Ni would be guaranteed to be great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393027
Has there ever been a Kai Ni that DIDN'T cause massive amounts of butthurt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393052
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393027
Yuudachi was very well received.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIShrM3YaVs

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393046
Come to think of it, will Sara be the first Yoshinori Kai Ni?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393052
Remember when everyone was impressed she actually looked different from Shigure? She used to be so cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393046
Even if the art is great they can make the stats disappointing (or so brokenly good everyone else becomes obsolete).
I would love more permanent sprites updates though, some ships like Hatsukaze or Kuma and Tama need one badly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393115
Yes. If I remember correctly, he didn't even have a single seasonal until last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393052
Only this year had a relatively high amount of bitching on that, though I guess the K2 drought only made it look worse. Kinu and Kawakaze tied for most butthurt generated, but for different reasons. Second goes to Ooshio, mostly because of hat neutering. Satsuki got shirt art, but that was forgotten quickly. People were too busy fapping to really complain about Kasumi and Asashio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393120
>Even if the art is great they can make the stats disappointing
No. Stats are always better at Kai Ni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393131
Kinu says hi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393116

If you looks at Poi's and Shigure's non-K2 art they also don't have the same face problem. Seems like same face is a requirement for shiratsuyu-class Kai Ni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393137
Read the wiki, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393131
Ushio has the most buffs on record. She used to be weaker than Okinami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393137
Kinu's stats on average are better than Kai Ni. Not to mention she can do opening ASW better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393145
And? Her Kai Ni stats are better than Kai. Kai Ni was a nice buff for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393131
I just said disappointing not worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393150
>Kinu stats on average are better at Kai Ni.
Is what I meant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393123
I thought he did a seasonal in 2015 but I am probably remembering wrong. Maybe it was promotional art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393116
She was his most unique and he ruined her, its amazing. And for what? A dumb gimmick that looked ridiculous the first time and tried to push on another, so stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393169
Kamo was his first and it was for 2016. Then she got another for that colab along with Mutsu for her fist seasonal and Iowa's first for this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393181
Oh and Yamato's first for summer, which was his second seasonal overall IIRC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16391834
How fast will this make her hips move?
She'll have integrated new model boiler at Kai ni right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393183
>>16393181
Thanks. Thought he did Yamato in a kimono but that either was promo art or someone else altogether.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393027
What's the worry? Shit stats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393116
Literally all she needed was to keep her blue eyes and she's be my fav destroyer, instead of 2nd

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393012
It's a boiler, not actually an engine.

[Anonymous No.]

Why couldn't we have gotten this pose for Warspite's CG?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393191
>Kai ni
Not in your lifetime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393241
Because it's a struggle for her to stand or walk for too long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393131
It's not Kai Ni, but Tenryuu's luck drops from 17 to 12 when she gets Kai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393157
It's not my fault you have ridiculously high expectations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393263
So does Ooi's and I'm pretty sure some DDs' too. Maybe Fubuki and one of Kagerous?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393191
She should already have it integrated like ducks have fire directors, the same goes for Uzuki but with daihatsu.
>oh, but lets make it a remodel ability which are already fucking scarce
It's complete bullshit, they are just pissing people off, especially the nips with the Aoba cock teasing.

[Anonymous No.]

>Houshou will never, NEVER be your mom
why even live

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393262
Oh shut up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393241
Because it shows how bad the design really is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393278
How are they teasing the nips with Aoba?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393296
>Houshou will never, NEVER be your girlfriend-mom
Just end me.

[Anonymous No.]

https://exhentai.org/g/1015352/f57d7c57ba/

[Anonymous No.]

For those interested in the idea of multiple speed tiers, here's a list of every in-game class and their rough speed. The game's regular slowpoke threshold seems to be right above Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393392
Yamato was pretty fast all things considered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393395
Can't wait for the first 改三.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393395
>50 torpedo tubes
She's gonna have in-built midget sub and 150 torpedo stat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393392
>Shimakaze 40.9
>Maestrale 38
Didn't someone post that Maestrale had better maintained speed compared to Shimakazes' going all out on the speed test sometime ago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393425
Well, that list is showing top speed. What I remember though is the Le Fantasque class's speed tests were done in different conditions than those for Shimakaze so it's hard to really call them faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393442
Oh, sorry. Yeah, the Le Fantasque. But it still says about the nominal 40 making it a better compariosn to Shimakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393392
>tfw Mizuho was fast at one point

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393392
No to nitpick too much, but shouldn't it say Lexington where Sara is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393460
Three have 45 original -> 37 after refit while other three have merely "40".

Looks like they were actually slower in combat conditions than half of Japanese DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393486
They were essentially CLs. They were called DDs because they were called "large destroyers" and after the refit reclassified into CLs proper.

[Anonymous No.]

Which ship girl looks most like an elf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393506
Kawakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393392
>The game's regular slowpoke threshold seems to be right above Yamato.
We've known that for ages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393506
Iowa and Murasame

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393506

Are we talking about Legolas or Santa's helpers?

[Anonymous No.]

>Matsu class
>new escort carrier
>this speed shit
>small scale event
Please don't tell me they actually plan on making a transport event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393486
Pretty sure that's because they were forced to add Armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393506
Kawakaze has elf ears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393518
The ones they rape in hentai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393392
Where did you get the speed for Graf? All places I've been too said 30.
Also didn't Saratoga go 34+ knots at one point?

[Anonymous No.]

DMM you fucking shitheads stop freezing when I'm trying to give you money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393543
It's just a way of them telling you they don't want your filthy waito gaijin piggu money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393548
But I'm a dirty spic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393550
Even worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393520
Don't worry, final map will have unlockable start point with Suijou, debuff with Kidou, TP phase and final HP phase with light fleet which will require double support. All will require three land bases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393596
Different locks for the transport half and the kill half.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393605
Yeah, didn't consider those. Obviously half of those will require fast+ fleet if you want to avoid node with triple tako Wo Kai Ace. Boss node will have two Ancient DD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393605
>winter map
>locks

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393596
Just steamroll the event on easy mode.

Free yourself from this tyranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393619
But easy mode is haram.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393618
It might have specific branching rules instead, same shit but worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393596
>All will require three land bases.
You can only use 2 for attack now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393626
Hard mode is the opiate of the masses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393626
Doing something forbiden should turn you on more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393631
And? Third will simply decrease the hidden sortie cost from 500f/300b to 300f/180b.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393614
>Boss node will have two Ancient DD.
Both equipped with 深海古型恐怖力発電発電機 to show off the new mechanics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393645
Don't Forget Jet fighter Wo.

[Anonymous No.]

Please, guys, stop else I won't be able to sleep tonight

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393652
Oh, and the music will suck.

[Anonymous No.]

https://exhentai.org/g/1015221/40fbaaf3f1/

Pyon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393662

>the music will suck

That's it, I'm done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393664
Yayoi is rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393662
But this was good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE1b86ftjeY

[Anonymous No.]

Will 2017 be the year that KanColle dies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393664

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393678
No. But everyone who will keep playing it will die a little inside.

[Anonymous No.]

I want WANKER to return.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393676
Tone is fucking ugly and annoying. Also, your song sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIZRATBeUkA

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393698
I thought we were talking about jets. And your BGM isn't even the best of the year, this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtMMYTCfing

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393685
This. I was so fucking ready to splurge and buy multiple rings if Aoba got Kai Ni this time. Instead we got an update which doesn't bring anything good, introduces more screw sinks and augurs horrible news for next event and others to come on top of denying any chance of speed rework... and I'll still play the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393714
>if Aoba got Kai Ni this time.
Why the fuck would you think Aoba was getting a Kai 2 last night when they never announced anything other than the engine changes before now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393714
>and I'll still play the game
I still like it.

>>16393705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfMQxYASAvg

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393720
Because they announced it more than one month ago and it wouldn't be a first time they did surprise remodel?

>>16393736
I like it it too. KanColle is what literally kept me alive two years ago. Considering it's already third year I'm not sure if I'll ever stop loving this game, even if I had a bit of breakdown after shitty Spring 2016.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393790
The last time they did a surprise remodel was Yamashiro and that one was actually late since it was supposed to come at the same time as Fusou's, not a week later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393790
Not your blog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393714
>>16393790
And here I thought Zarafags were the new delusional Samidarefags but it turned out to be Aobafags instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393802
It might as well be considering my post rate which you're not aware of. I'm not planning to make it one though, no worries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393824
Nah. Aoba is quite the obvious choice so it's quite natural people expect her. I think it's way more about having any Kai Ni at all than specifically Aoba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393831
Kainifags will be the new Samidarefags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393836
Shouldn't that be the other way around?

[Anonymous No.]

>Everyone's expecting Aoba K2
>It's actually Mogami and/or Mikuma

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393836
Actuallysomethinghappeninginthisgodawfulgame will be new Samidarefags.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393849
They'd have specified CAV and not CA if that was the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>Scrap 2 12.7cm Twin Gun Mounts and have 5000 furniture tokens, 2 7.7mm Machine Guns and 2 Type 52 Zero Fighters in your inventory while the quest is activated
How do they translate 96 to 52?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393857
It's a process of elimination
>Aoba and Atago/Takao's artists are both MIA
>A Prinz K2 would be way too strong
>Zara-class is out because the Italians will never be anything other than Tanaka's personal chew toys

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393853
Why did Mutsuki let this happen?

[Anonymous No.]

I just want some goddamn 改二 remodels. I don't care who gets them. Liven up the game already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393871
>Aoba and Atago/Takao's artists are both MIA

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393890
So fucking much, this. It could even be ne of the Whobukies I don't have. Just give me something to train.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393891
Show me one artwork they have done other than CGs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393891
I hope Tanaka gives Shobon some work, maybe one of the new subs.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of remodels, is it even possible for girls like Akizuki and Yukikaze to get one without thoroughly devaluing all the other destroyers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393919
Marginal statboost and no broken game whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393919

Do ducks not already devalue all other destroyers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393929

With their shit torp stat? no way. They don't even have such a high FP too and arguably their HP number makes then more prone to taiha from overkill than a 31 HP DD

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393929
You're telling me you only sortie Akizukis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393901

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393919
It's hard to say when every remodel so far is from ships with average stats. We'll see with Sara. They are theoretically strong like a remodel, especially Yukikaze. Akizuki just has really high AA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393938
When was this made?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393943
2015.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393947
But they still haven't contributed anything to the game itself-no new girls or seasonal sprites for the existing girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393871
>A Prinz K2 would be way too strong
Prinz didn't really do anything of note after her run with Bismarck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393966
>muh nuke surviving cruiser
Is the arguement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393971
Nagato was the one who survived and only sunk because of a leakage she had before she even got to Bikini Atoll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393971
Well in her case it's more like she slowly bled out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393989
A Kai ni were she does Nuke damage but loses health every node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393966
Kai Ni always adds stats here and there. CAs can't even get ASW while evasion and LoS wouldn't be enough so she would have to gain firepower/torpedo/HP/armor - and those already at Kai put her at Myoukou's Kai Ni level. Prinz Kai Ni would be super strong. Not that I would complain, but speaking from plebs' perspective it can be considered too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>"Adding Allied ships won't kill the game" they said

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394013
>"Adding new game mechanics won't break the game, only make it more fun" they said

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393984
>Nagato was the one who survived and only sunk because of a leakage she had before she even got to Bikini Atoll.
Where did this myth come from? Nagato could not be closely examined like many of the other ships that were close to be test Baker center. Just because she had no immediate damage doesn't mean a small problem that grew bigger wasn't caused by the bomb.

Prinz was far away from both detonations. If anything it's embarrassing for the USN that she sunk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394013
That's not what killed the game. LBAS, Jests, and this turbine/boiler bullshit is what is killing the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394013
But it's the bulges and engines that are unreasonably expensive to upgrade. Even 16inch is more reasonable.

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw update is just a giant screw sink and incentive to pay for Akashi hole-punchers.

Fucking Tanaka, what do you have planned next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394103
Unless upgrades give retarded bonuses like tanks and surface radars, I'm not even touching that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

I swear people are more upset now than when hole punches were first introduces as the designated cash shop item slot. All over the fantasy that this will be 100% mandatory for future maps. Rings weren't necessary, they drowned us in screw opportunities, and Hayasui barrels got a quest right after as maps started needing them. Odds are this will end up the same.

>>16394050
>and this turbine/boiler bullshit is what is killing the game.
But slow ship bullying was fine? The only upset about jets is that they aren't the killing machines some expected. LBAS has been scaled back with every event.

[Anonymous No.]

Mark my words, tonight they will give hints about the Sara's Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394160
And now we will have slow and fast ship bullying. Way to solve a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394020
>>16394050
>>16394051
You know that Allied ships will take all the blame.
>>16394160
>The only upset about jets is that they aren't the killing machines some expected.
But at least that would've justified the cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394160
If all this update did was turn slow ships into fast ones it would be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394160
It was fine because there are alternatives, people are just pissed there isn't enough fast CVLs, which they always get stretched thin every event with multiple locks unless you only keep 4 hotel dupes then you are a retard. People freaking out over the super speed should not, I guarantee this is exclusive to transport maps. You can't even put regular BBs in escort combined fleet, so it's literally nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>Aoba K2 announced
>eventually, twitter previews arrive
>Fujikawa confirmed, Hatusko NTR'd
>lots of AA guns
>update hits
>Aoba K2 is a convertible, transport mode and AA mode
>transport mode is basically KinuK2
>AA mode lowers her speed to slow
>shorts replaced by a skirt on both
Are you excited, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394178
>fast ship bullying

Exactly how does fast ship bullying works? They can be faster and faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394184
>You know that Allied ships will take all the blame.
How? Allied ships did not introduce any of these mechanics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394013
I don't give a slightest fuck about them adding in Iowa/Warspite/Teste (even if Iowa and Teste have shit voices and Warspite is useless), what kills the game for me is fucking LBAS and updates like this one. Also, lack of Kai Ni. Fucking hell, I would even be very happy about Kai Ni of Aquila which I never bother to farm. I want SOMETHING.
A N Y T H I N G.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394184
>You know that Allied ships will take all the blame.
I think you might be retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394207
>>16394194
But they were introduced at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394193
After sacrificing firepower/aa/asw, sure, go ahead.

>>16394190
What does not being able to put regular BBs into escort fleet have to do with the fact that you will need to sacrifice two slots on all ships in the fleet to give it normal routing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394208
I think you are retarded. Most people seem to be blaming Tanaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394160
>I swear people are more upset now than when hole punches were first introduces as the designated cash shop item slot.
When Akashi slots were introduced, they weren't confirmed by devs to give better branching. However turbines are confirmed to give better branching.

>All over the fantasy that this will be 100% mandatory for future maps.
You don't understand. Fleet speed is decided by the slowest ship. If you want to achieve fast+ or super fast you HAVE TO use boiler + turbine on every single ship in the fleet. If you don't use expansion slots, you have to gimp your fleet horribly. With expansion slot, the gimp is bad but not devastating. That makes this mechanic a pay 2 win.

>>16394160
Rings only increase evasion, ASW and Hp which barely matter vs crits. hayasui reuires using a ship which dies to shelling of a DD. Those were balanced. Boiler + turbine crap isn't and IT'S CONFIRMED to have an effect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394192

>Ise K2s announced
>They get a transport mode
>It's their only mode

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394207
>>16394217
You're the one who's retarded. Tanaka obviously thinks that rolling out Allied ships will compensate for all the fuck-ups he's made recently. Years from now, when people are analyzing the downfall of KanColle, they'll point to this as one of the root causes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394210
We don't even know if faster than fast will be used in regular routing you retard. I'm telling you this is exclusive to transport maps, the setup is reminiscent of their real life Tokyo Express. We don't even know how it will work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394249
Yeah you're definitely a retard, I bet you're one of the former Axiscollefags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394226

We can only hope that this new routing with fast+ and ultra fast ships is limited to one or 2 ships in the fleet to get the good routing, otherwise, yeah, it will be pretty bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

heh

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394255

>the setup is reminiscent of their real life Tokyo Express

I don't see the relation bettwen these new boiler mechanics and the Tokyo Express

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394257
>I bet you're one of the former Axiscollefags.
Bullshit. I actually like the Allied boatsluts. That doesn't change the fact that they're gonna be associated with KanColle's decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394249
Then those people didn't play the game.

[Anonymous No.]

What if they made it so that fleet with increased speed can finish expedition in less time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394270
Maybe he means the Tokyo express gimped themselves. Which they did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394255
>We don't even know if faster than fast will be used in regular routing you retard
>I'm telling you this is exclusive to transport maps
So we do know something about it? Or are you pulling this out of your ass completely? On the other hand my asumption follows Tanakas' "working as inteded upon implementation experience". The player is always the one getting screwed over when he implements "cool" new mechanics and only after a week or month does it get fixed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394271
Only people who didn't play the game or the highest order axiscollefags would think that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394271

I think p2w will be associated more with Kancolle's decline.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394226
>Boiler + turbine crap isn't
Yes it fucking is you fucking retard, the fact that you have to gimp your ships is the balance. You can start complaining when they add a turbine+boiler single item that can go in the slot but until then it's literally useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394192
The only thing I want from Aoba Kai Ni is yasen stats better than Kinugasa Kai Ni. I have already planned to give her at least one Maruyu soup.

The skirt with better art would be a nice upgrade. I like shorts but skirt is fine too. No problem. Far better than Ooshio losing her hat or Kawakaze losing her navel and armpits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394306

>turbine+boiler single item

That's the obvious continuation and it wouldn't surprise me they add this more sooner than later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394320
It'll cost so many screws no one will make one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394320
I don't see why a combined turbine + boiler item would fit in the slot when boilers alone don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394326

That's besides the point. Just being there is enough.

>>16394331

Who knows? I mean, it could be either way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394341
>Just being there is enough.
No it isn't, the only ones who would even bother would RTAfags and even they'd be more likely to put megamis on the expansion slot instead. What I find more appalling is the fact some of you actually believe having a super fast fleet will mean getting super easy routing just because the fleet is gimped. It's like you guys haven't played the game nor know how Tanaka bullshits difficulty out of nothing.

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>>16394354
Oh yeah and I forgot one thing, in the impossible scenario that routing does become extremely easy just by having a gimped super fast fleet, how exactly are you planning to kill the boss node with your fleet's damage capacity being so shit? Do you just expect LBAS and support to take care of it?

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>>16394354
Wrong. It's the fleet that isn't fast+ or higher that will go through so much shit you'd consider suicide.

>>16394364
TCI and night DA i guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394354
>the only ones who would even bother would RTAfags

You really are underestimating the nips and their ability to throw money at useless stuff. Just look at gacha games like FGO or Granblue and the millions they make.

>>16394364

>how exactly are you planning to kill the boss

By having Akashi hole in all my ships which would let me have a decent setup in my ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394391
The autistic nips that play KanColle aren't the same type of autistic nips that throw money at gachas. They go by hard cold numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394255
>We don't even know if faster than fast will be used in regular routing you retard.
We do know, retard.

>I'm telling you this is exclusive to transport maps
Based on fucking nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394296
Only DDs, CLs and CA(V)s can get the highest speed with the least amount of engine equipment. Just getting Nagato to fast+ requires 4 engines, that is the whole equipment space. It would be retarded to require a slow BB for any transport mission and you can't even take them because they dead end you, speed is very important. Where else would you need the engines?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392331
fuck her

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394395

>The autistic nips that play KanColle aren't the same type of autistic nips that throw money at gachas

And you say that based on what? Are you actually telling me that people who play Kancolle don't play Gacha? Because I do know a ranker who spends around 2000-3000 yen a week in FGO gacha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16392345
>>16392346
Or maybe mines are introduced, and you can only evade them with Fast+ ships.

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>>16394306
>Yes it fucking is you fucking retard, the fact that you have to gimp your ships is the balance.
Only theoretically, retard. Previously, you could simply use fast ships instead of slow ships and those are easy to get. Now, however, you're forced to to used fast+ or super fast fleet which is GUARANTEED to completely fuck over your fleet unless you buy expansion slots - in which case your fleet turns from basically useless to merely sub-optimal.

>when they add a turbine+boiler single item that can go in the slot but until then it's literally useless
This would actually be much better than current update (assuming it didn't eat fuckload of screws which became impossible after THIS update) because you have a total of 17 free Akashi holes and even if you used them all in the past or are a kuso mode fag, one is from lat update and next event will likely give five.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394406
You realise how much slots you need to use to improve speed and how many will be left for the useful equips? Or do you think everyone has all shipgirls with Akashi hole in them?
I'm not talking about boosting the slowest ships to fast+ and up, i'm telling you that if you need to at least fast+ your fleet without akashi hole you'll handicap your fleet really hard.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30368784
Maybe Teste and Mizuho are the same person

[Anonymous No.]

Can't you guys wait for the event to know if there really will be bullshit maps that need fast+ ships before shitposting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394470
Then what does that make the Abyssal AVs?

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>>16394485
High school edgy phase?

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>>16394473

It is because there isn't any event going on couple with the big dissapointment that was this update that people are shitposting.

I mean, just like that anon said, this update was utter shit, just another screw sink and more Akashi hole shilling.

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>>16394453
CAs can still double attack, you are unlikely to need absolutely everybody to be fast+ because the fleet is already fast, there is only penalties to slow fleets because the strongest girls just happen to be slow.. For all we know, it might be the average or only 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Almost time for them to give updates about more collaborations, movie shit no one cares about, and good morning greetings.

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>>16393486
They had less speed after refit because they replaced the original engines with US made ones, less powerful but more fuel-efficient.

The french navy worked with very powerful high pressure engines, see how the ones for the Mogador class DDs were rated 92,000 horsepower, ie 17,000hp more than Speedslut

> The Rateau-Bretagne geared steam turbines were designed to produce 92,000 shaft horsepower (68,604 kW), which would propel the ship at 39 knots (72 km/h; 45 mph). However, during sea trials in March 1938, Mogador's turbines provided 118,320 shp (88,230 kW) and she reached 43.45 knots (80.47 km/h; 50.00 mph) for a single hour.

Keep in mind this is on a 500 tons heavier displacement.

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>>16394473
Can you propose a different subject to discuss? No? Thanks for the input.

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>>16394494
>For all we know, it might be the average or only 2.
This would make no sense. If you want your fleet to be fast+, all of them have to be fast+.

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>>16394492
>I mean, just like that anon said, this update was utter shit, just another screw sink and more Akashi hole shilling.
3/4 maintenances offer absolutely nothing. I don't really know what people were expecting, but speed changing is something people have been asking about forever and could end up making some interesting maps.

[Anonymous No.]

Dumping on /a/, but in case that gets deleted:
>https://exhentai.org/g/1016513/b8d79d2a46/
>http://pastebin.com/wJMwChFh

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>>16394517
OK, but did they have any combat usage outside of running away before the refit?

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>>16394517

>118,320 shp

Holy hell, that's almost as much as a Myoko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394544
Not really, but that didn't have much to do with their speed.

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>>16394521

Which boat has the best nose?

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>>16394536
>speed changing is something people have been asking about forever
Exactly. When it offers only a screw sink, people are bound to be upset. This shit was anounced years ago and the only thing we get is pay2win.

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>>16394549
In that case their pre-refit stats won't even be considered. Shimakaze is the fastest DD in the end.

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>>16394544
Couple fantasque class DDs sank some german ships, but I can't remember if that was before or after the refit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394521
Let's talk about the Zara-class and why they deserve to become Armored Cruisers.

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>>16394531
Then it's not happening. When transport maps were first added, the devs said that a nice balance of offense and transport materials was the key. This is impossible when you have to bring drums/daihatsu and now engines, it's going to be an average or bust.

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>>16394573
I wish I could take all the whining about the Zara-class's armor, travel back in time to before Winter 2016, and show it to Tanaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394588
You know the funny part about is the whole thing got hand waved in the 4koma as if it was nothing important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394588
Another +1 armor

Hope you enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just me or do the design sketches and long distance pictures of the Zaras make them look more like BBs than cruisers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394539
>that cover
>non-hentai
Into the trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394596
No, if past!Tanaka saw this autism, he'd never have added the Zara-class in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393486
>half of Japanese DDs
That half was entirely composed of outdated ships, though (Mutsuki, Kamikaze). After the post-Tomozuru reconstruction, the only Special Type+ DDs in the IJN fleet that could beat Le Fantasque even post-refit were the four Akatsuki-classes and Shimakaze.

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>>16394620
Gaijin players were a mistake.

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>>16394610
Nah, that's clearly a cruiser. You can tell even by the shape, not to mention the scale compared to seaplane on the bow.

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>>16394623
As expected of the Lady-class.

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>>16394594
The whole chapter becomes is a history lesson whenever a new girl shows up.

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>>16394539
my god

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394625
Not all of us think the same, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394517
When are we going to get those French engines?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394305
>>16394418
This discussion is about KanColle not Kancolle.

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>>16394678
You want your fuel to up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394565
>Shimakaze is the fastest DD in the end.
Nyet, that would be tashkent tovarisch)))))))

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394565
Not that speed mattered. In the end Dakka matters more against the aircraft menace.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394709
Soviets didn't have a Navy.

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>>16394740
They had a shitty navy that was basically fighting on land half the time, but they did have a Navy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394623
>the only Special Type+ DDs in the IJN fleet that could beat Le Fantasque even post-refit were the four Akatsuki-classes

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394756
Sounds more like a Marine Corp than a Navy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394765
It would be a marine Corp if they fought more amphibious operations.

[Anonymous No.]

If tanaka is running out of ideas, why force this shit mechanics instead of adding more remodels? I mean, slow CVLs don't suffer as much if you use the punchhole but BBs with just day DA, i don't think that will do against the tanaka trend of high hp bosses.
I believe this was a lame attempt at throwing a "new meta" because they don't have nothing else at the moment and the reception here shows that it was a bad move, idk how nips are taking it though.

[Anonymous No.]

Tanaka's just adding a mechanic that he promised ages ago. Why are people so upset over it?

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>>16394803
Have you actually read the thread?

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>>16394805
Yeah. And I don't get what's the big deal. This was always inevitable.

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>>16394521
How can I further optimize these planes further to get less bauxite cost or is this the best I can do? I managed to get fighter loses down to 0-2 shot down a sortie but bombers wildly range between 3-15, rarely is it less than 3 or more than 15, totaling 30-75 bauxite. Is this just diamond formation at work?

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>>16394812
Because it's more P2W bullshit.

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>>16394820
Like rings and Akashi slots and Hayasui barrels right?

Even if a turbine+boiler equipment came out and was equippable in the Akashi slot, I guarantee you one of two things:
-Tanaka will not make it a requirement.
-The equipment will become relatively easily available even to those who don't pay their way through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394820
It would be if you could make ships fast with only one engine in the slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394784
People are just waiting for radar artillery spotting and it will be even more bullshit to even get started to use it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394803
I thought it was just going to turn slow ships fast not add more speed tiers. This is horrible.
Though it never sounded like a good thing to me to begin with why was everyone so excited?

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>>16394539
Mind translating this, Chinkfag?
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=10766545

This shouldn't have as many technical terms, and worst case scenario you can always use Google Translate or something. It's pretty accurate for vocabulary.

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>>16394836
Tanaka never said he would add that though. We operate according to IJN rules.

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>>16394846
We operate according to Tanaka's rules. If he wants to add radar artillery spotting he will.

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>>16394845
Not him, but a quick skim of it doesn't show anything new.

Pretty much the same as the patch notes on the wiki.

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>>16394709
I'd say "russian bias" but that ship was actually italian built.

It's like the russians completely forgot how to build and maintain ships after Tsushima. When even China is better than you at taking care of your own carriers you know there's something wrong with your navy.

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>>16394868
>a fucking ramp
I laugh every time.
Before anyone throws a fit I know it still has its use and its only to keep costs down but still.

[Anonymous No.]

Would you bring your shipgirls to Costco?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394860
Seems like putting 2 enhanced boilers has the same effect as putting 1 Amatsukaze boiler.

I wish the graph also showed the speeds in between the Amatsukaze boilers.

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>>16394846

Because the INJ had carrier-based jets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394846
Both 16inch versions and T32 flavor text implies it, so did the engine/turbine combo for speed change and Keiun to Jet Keiun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394872
Doesn't seem like the Vita formula.

Also what of Iowa? She suffers penalty with 381mm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394892
I don't know how old the image is or how accurate, I just found it on a fit gun thread.
http://dec.2chan.net/60/res/11899294.htm

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394860
>melon will NEVER EVER be sanic fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394860
>that melon bullying

She was around the same speed as the other CLs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394860
>SLOWBARI
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394933
They're actually basing game mechanics on memes now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394860
What's the color labeling for 高速+ means? Some are red coloured. Is there a meaning to it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394944
Can't go faster even if you add more boilers I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394933
>can maintain double attack and be super fast
Who can stop her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394860
So Sara and Akagi are better than Kaga?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394882
They have costco's in Japan?

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>>16394815
Sorry, I was busy talking about mechanics with a friend.

You could use a farming dragon for higher chance of not losing planes. She would certainly be sturdier than CVL.
I'm not really sure if Zara with fighter is worth it in this case. She loses a lot of artillery spotting rate from swapping a T32 for a fighter. The bauxite cost is clear though so I guess it's worth it if you lack it. Recently I use Kaga + Saratoga and they eat up 50-105 bauxite because 4 fighters are enough with those two. The bauxite cost is higher than yours but I imagine they lose significantly less fuel for repairs.
Also, do you always get AS+ vs two demons comp? I think your fleet could only get AS vs them with bad AA roll on first node.

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>>16394976
A boss with decent armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394976
She cant into ASW

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394892
>Doesn't seem like the Vita formula.
Because Vita is absolutely fucking irrelevant to the the browser game.

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>>16395013
>Because Vita is absolutely fucking irrelevant to the the browser game
Are you retarded? We confirmed a fuckload of information from the datamine, most notably the existence of K-values in AACI. While the formulas used in VitaColle may not fully apply to the browser game, only a fool would dismiss them without a second thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>turbine/boiler
>not a fotm gimmick
That's like saying jets are relevant. Don't fall for Tanaka's scheme, guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395035
Are you retarded? Not a single formula is the exact same meaning they have no effect on the browser game.

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>>16395044
They may not be the same, but I wouldn't call them "irrelevant". Most of the formulas and modifiers are astonishingly close to what we already knew in the browser game, and claiming they have "no effect" on the browser game is much akin to saying that our own approximations and estimates have "no effect" as well.

Please think things thoroughly before posting.

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>>16395054
>Please think things thoroughly before posting.
Same to you. Differences are big enough to indeed consider Vita's formulae irrelevant compared to what we knew before.
For example fit data of BB guns in Vita is outright wrong for browser game and simply inferior to what we had long time ago.
And indeed you were talking about BB guns. In which case we know for sure Vita has no effect on browser game and uses completely different mechanics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395067
Sure, dude. Whatever makes you sleep at night. Just because the BB fit gun data isn't completely identical to the browser game's doesn't mean the rest of the formulas should be completely dismissed.

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>>16395082
Sure, dude. Whatever makes you sleep at night. Just because the Vita data was slightly similar in one or two areass doesn't mean every other the formula will be the same.
(as there's exactly zero precedence for it being relevant)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394997
She deserves to be level 155 anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395099
>(as there's exactly zero precedence for it being relevant)
Alright, here you go:
>AACI K-values
Almost identical, save for minute adjustments in the scale of 0.5s
>AA formulas
Entirely identical. In fact the newest model of our AA formula uses the improvement multipliers we gathered from the datamine.
>F33
Identical, save for weighted LoS which was not a factor in VitaColle. Their LoS calculations coincide exactly with what we call Formula 33.
>Formation modifiers
Identical. Tests highly suggest that the evasion/accuracy modifiers of various formations also coincide.
>Accuracy models
Very accurate save for a few areas like the aforementioned fit guns. We now know that torpedo accuracy scales with effective torpedo stat, as it was previously theorized via regression analysis of some tests.
>Aerial combat
Literally everything about it is identical to what we know. The probability distribution of (enemy-side) losses in fighter combat even coincides with data from the browser game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16393901
>>16393938
There is also pic related in 2015 KanColle Calendar. I'd like the K2 sprites to be done in similar style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395144
I don't get what the thing on her arm is supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394815
Bauxfag here, if you're willing to take me seriously.

Your comp is really really good desu. You've got your shit well. At this point I can only give some knowledge in case you've not known them yet.
- 18slot is the best for fighters. That's why non-kai Taihou is the best for ranking. One can get 216 fighter power for only at max 1 (one) plane shot down.
- Either 8 or 18slot is the best for bombers. Don't have non-kai Taihou so can't test that juicy 7slot though. 6~18slot have almost the same shot down rate with of course 18slot being a tiny bit more. Most likely the same actually. But just in case for full baux reservation then 8slot is better, if not then 18slot, everything else is trash.
- Recommended FP for 5-4 is 354. Your comp has exactly that much. Good job.
AS+ can be achieved at about 352~354 minimum. But I've test a lot at 352 FP and the result is not so good. Wo will shit on the girls at 352 FP.
- Only use seaplane fighters only Tone-class 9slot and married. A6M2-N gives 34 FP on 9slot while only 29 FP on 2slot. As explained above 2FP can make a ton of differences so yea.
- Armoured carriers are crucially important for this map if one wants to sustain as long as possible. Also Graf for that overall plane slots and tankiness.

I might miss something so forgive me on that.

Also, >>16394989 is pure trash. Uncertainty and trash choices (both Kaga and Sara are shit.) Less fuel repairs? Fuck no. Being unarmoured is ALWAYS more fuel and buckets for repairs. I hope that Sara is armoured at kai2 so I can do more tests.

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>>16395163
>Less fuel repairs? Fuck no. Being unarmoured is ALWAYS more fuel and buckets for repairs.
The comparison is to unarmored carriers though, Sara and Kaga have more armor than Unryuus while Shouhou sucks for both armor and evasions.

[Anonymous No.]

how the f do you stop kc3 from auto closing the window when updating again

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395194
uninstall

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395194
Use EO,

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395194
>auto closing for an update

[Anonymous No.]

That old anthology chapter where Shimakaze starts going so fast she has after images with mass everywhere suddenly feels relevant.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Ayanami keep getting buffed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395210
Potato bias, as expected of master tanaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395210
I honestly don't know, I kind of wished I knew what they use as their source for all the stat decisions.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh hey I found it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395151
Probably only Tanaka and Hatsuko know what it is supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395181
Yes but he is asking for baux efficiency, not comp efficiency. If for comp efficiency then only amoured carrier fleets and sub route are viable, everything else is suboptimal and shouldn't be considered at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395243
You're right and I mentioned that my most recent comp isn't as baux efficient as some others.

>everything else is suboptimal and shouldn't be considered at all
That's too harsh, many people don't rank all year and want to do it while giving levels to specific girls at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like somebody's been exposing Kiyoshimo to British culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395228
I miss this so much.

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>>16395254
Yes but that's our job. This board is not a hug box.
It's the same with the "small c" shit. Gotta do it correctly. If not then one should fuck off to wikia or himeuta.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395264
Blame F/GO for taking him away from us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395270
>"F/GO won't kill KanColle" they said

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395270
It's been almost a year and I still mad as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395270
Remember when KanColle was supposed to have a big collaboration with the Fate series? Remember that great April Fools crossover stuff? Grand Order was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395243
Yeah, I don't really give enough shits about Taihou to craft her, I'm only using Shouhou to level because I already finished with 2 Souryuu I had and she's cheaper to resupply too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395277
F/GO didnt kill KanColle
F/GO killed Tsukihime

muh sacchin route

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395287
If you could get her then just remember to NOT kai her, grind her to lvl 155 and you will get to the top quickly. She will be your golden egg in no time at all. It is my mistake to kai her. Her kai form is so bad for ranking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395313
You don't understand, she's one of the few girls I cannot stand. People shit on Abukuma, but Taihou is worse in my opinion and her face, goddamn I hate that Humikane face. I want to punch her so much, maybe then she will have a visible mouth after it bruises.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395293
It also killed the Sasebo anthology. Before it had a nice balance of cute stuff, comedy, historical stuff from Freddy and Nakajima, and crazy stuff from Riyo. Now it's mostly cute stuff and not much in not much in comedy.

[Anonymous No.]

What could be the ship rewards for winter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395391
fuyutsuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395391
Fuyutsuki, Matsu, Matsukaze, Big E, some non-capital ship from a foreign fleet. Any of these are possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395399
>Big E
Can't wait to see her being buddy-buddy with the Nip carriers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395270
>>16395277
But how? More money from them? Does it have better characters? I never really followed Fate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395402
She and ZuiZui will be best pals, just like in every battle shounen series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395399
>some non-capital ship from a foreign fleet
American DD, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395360
It's alright anon I understand. Reminds me of the time I had the same problem with Kasumi. I hated her the most. To me insolence is the ultimate disrespect that subordinates can give to their boss. But then she changed so I change too by fapping to her a lot. Nakadashi in these situations is the best. Here's my treat.

https://exhentai.org/g/941075/b92a0c8b49/

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395408
It's not shit, for one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395313
im a noob to rank shittery here, why is her kai form bad at ranking? just consumption issues?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395408
Character designs are alright I guess if you like Type-Moon and of course they are more consistent across the board

[Anonymous No.]

Would Aquila make a good mommy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395466
Probably, she never leaves and has the most cute verbal tick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395426
Mostly slots. 30/24/24 is so bad I actually wanna puke. Anything more than 18slot will get you an additional 30 baux lost with bombers and 15 baux lost with fighters. Of course 24slot will lose less than 30slot but the point still stands. Same with why Kaga is pure trash. Her 20 slot x2 will net a -2 planes being shot down per sortie While Taihou's nonkai x3 18slots will net basically 0 (zero) baux per sortie. That's a HUGE advantage. If you know how to do this right it will be a painless top 500 at least with ~1.6k baux gain per day instead of -3000 baux per day for THE whole month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395499
Then isn't Sara's 18 slot x 3 good for 5-4? I know she has low evasion but if you just want to save bauxite then she should be top tier going by your logic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395499
Where the fuck do you rank that top 500 usually costs 3000 bauxite a day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395582
Yes but being unarmoured makes her shit. And with that evasion she's actually the at the bottom ranking list right now. Even when she's the flagship. That's why I said I hope her kai2 would be armoured above.

>>16395596
Noobs with their "hurr durr 75 baux per run" image.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>16395499
>~1.6k baux gain per day
Wait how, what expeditions are you running while doing this? I'm staying off 5-4 because I'm barely making 1.8k a day from exp 6 with daihatsu and I'd like to get 80k before the event just in case, despite being a small one.

[Anonymous No.]

Does base evasion affect the speed change or is it purely based off historical speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395620
>Yes but being unarmoured makes her shit
You can say that about any non crane and Taihou CV then, you might as well just saved yourself the trouble of saying Kaga's slots are terrible when she's not armored either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395647
Daily quests + regen + only night expeditions (11/35/40). Yes it's that much. If you don't believe me then go ahead and try yourself.
>>16395659
Graf is great so there's her at least. I've already said what you just said above so no need for me to do that again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395668
>regen
:^)

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>>16395668
>Graf is great so there's her at least.
But she isn't armored either, so going back with your logic she is shit too.
Dont misunderstand, im not trying to be contrarian or troll you, and since i don't think you want to elaborate further then you could post your 5-4 setup, it would be helpful.

[Anonymous No.]

I want three years of my life back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395681
Fine. The last time I didn't post the setup you guys all gone apeshit so.

This is an Akashi fleet I'm using right now. Not an optimal fleet but this should get you the idea how to setup a right comp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395701
>Akashi not 155
>marrying Fusou instead of Yamashiro
>marrying Chikuma instead of Tone

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395701
Now theorycraft me a fleet where I can level up Souryuus with Graf or Sara on the side leeching exp with minimal bauxite expenditure. Buckets and fuel don't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395701
Is that fleet really able to consistently S rank the boss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395701
And now i understand why people hate posting setups, because autists like >>16395707.
That aside, you use just 2 carriers? If so, how bad is the damage of graf with just the iwai, somehow i feel you will tell me graf is only there to get AS+ and snipe some minor shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395701
This is my older outdated setup months ago. But this is not a bad fleet. Do note that DDs and CLs must be all above 80. I just didn't give any fucks at all so whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395720
My criticism is founded though. If you're going to marry Akashi then don't post her until she's 155, you're just a faggot if you do. Yamashiro may not love her admiral but at least she doesn't talk super slow like Fusou. Chikuma has sagging tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395722
>using Yahagi instead of the superior Noshiron

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395734
wow fucking finnicky taste how are you ever satisfied in life

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395707
>>16395712
Go fuck yourselves.
>>16395716
A lot of B-ranks. It's called cheesing. B-rank and no damage at all because red T.
>>16395720
She actually shit on Ru/Ta thanks to her high level. There's the mythical crit that scales with levels. Chuuha'd there BB is more than enough.
>>16395734
"I'm using that right now." Do you even read? I'm obviously training her. Are you that dumb? Honestly just go fuck yourself one more time.
>>16395738
Didn't have her yet after 3 years so whatever. Also didn't try to find her anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395754
>there
*their.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395754
I was being serious about theorycrafting me a fleet, not mocking you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395701
Nope, this setup is too retarded and the opening air strike damage is way too low. The 2CV 1CVL was a better setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395765
Not him, but the usual 4CV(L) BBV SS fleet at 3-2-A is probably the fastest way to level carriers while not using a lot of bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395777
But I hate 3-2. I actually fell asleep once while doing 3-2 and ended up spraining my leg when I fell off my chair afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394539
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395781
Get over it or deal with using more bauxite on 3-3, 5-4 and/or PVP.

[Anonymous No.]

5-1 DD grind refreshing is terrifying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395793
Just wait for another E-5M next month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395765
There's you go, I'm feeling generous today.
Notes:
-Sara should miss more than others. Also prone to taiha'd easier.
-The only CV can mvp regularly with one bomber is Shou kai2 kou. Dunno about netorare but she can netori her sister/others a lot.
-Depends on the day, one should change Sara's bomber slot differently. Abyssals like to focus AA shot 1 slot down so be careful. Same with fleet position.
>>16395776
(You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395802
>Dunno about netorare but she can netori her sister/others a lot.
You should stick to ranking, you're awful at comedy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395809
Fuck you my dear dude she's way more aggressive than every other kamusu I've ever known. Scheming women are scary. At least that's my Shou. Dunno about other Shous tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395793
I've been doing it for a long time and as I speak. You're being too paranoid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395822
>shoucucku
>scheming
>pink strings
She is a doormat, only good for NTR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395839
Shoukaku is pure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395839
Yes there was certainly a time like that.
>acting beta
>weak statwise
>long white-haired for even more weakness
She's like a white string 2 years ago.
However right now.
>acting alpha
>only knows Zui and Admiral
>calling everyone else supporting ships
>wants to be as much as """"""helpful"""""" to the Admiral
>actually strong

That's Shou right now. Scary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395873
This is why no one takes you seriously, NTRfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395802
I have a suggestion to add. If possible that you have a spare reinforcement expansion, install it on Saratoga so you can put a turbine on it therefore you're not sacrificing any plane slots while having an increased evasion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395876
So defending her kai2 kou form makes me a ntrfag huh? Interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395873
I want to be doubleteamed by Shoukaku and Sara

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395898
>Bisko instead of Roma
Found his problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395879
Only turbine can go into the slot.
Turbine has less than half evasion of Amatsu boiler.
You don't need the slot that much anyways

[Anonymous No.]

Regarding this setup talk, i remember some post saying that the first slot has bonus damage, is this true or just a meme?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395921
It's true, which is why having a larger first slot is better for events. It's why Kaga isn't optimal since her 46 plane slot isn't the first one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395902
>his

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395903
While it's true that a turbine has less evasion stats than the boiler, additional evasion stats is always welcome. Here's hoping for Saratoga's K2 to have a buff on her evasion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395927
How much of a damage loss it's considering the setups the anon above posted if the slot is above 18/20 he prefers using a boiler or bulge?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395927
On the other hand it's really good that it's not first so you can stick a fighter in there without caring.

[Anonymous No.]

"Don't get carried away, monster!" -Shigure

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396058
Is she a praying mantis now?

[Anonymous No.]

Just to make sure; maxed F6F-3 basically is Reppuu with additional/other stats, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396071
She's holding a knife.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396058
I was really looking forward to that doujin. Too bad he went the futa and disgusting proportions route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396073
It's more of a Shiden Kai 2/bf109 and unlike them it's upgrade-able.
By the way you need Saratoga Kai to upgrade it. Basically a different looking Skilled 21 with different placebo stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396073
Im a little mad that tanaka didn't buff this plane, should be +9AA as the skilled 52, or at least some quest to ease the screw sink this plane needs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396150
so it's f4f-3->f4f-4->f6f-3->f6f-5->????
If F6F is upgrade-able then it will probably eat Reppu. It will be 9AA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396137
>>16396150

Only +9/+8 AA?
I thought that, if you upgrade fighter plane with Akashi until max, they would gain additional AA stats (+2)

Example, max T0 M53 Iwamoto would have +14 AA, instead only +12.
Or so I've heard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396160
Oh yeah If you max it then F6F-3 has 10AA.
I was talking about it's base form. If F6F-5 is upgradeable then it will be 9AA at base and 11AA at max and have more placebo stats added to it.
If there is a Grumman plane beyond F6F-5 then who knows what stats it will have

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396159
If we follow the trend F6F should be 10/11AA, and just to note F6F-3 consumes shinden kai 2 from 6 stars onwards, so i really think devs should create some quest to ease the screw and material sink.
>>16396160
It does give +2 AA maxed. What i meant is the hellcats should have same AA as skilled 52 instead of the 8AA because a maxed one is only 10AA reppu tier with placebo stats, and the cost does not justify it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396177
What Trend? F6F-5 will be in stats to the F6F-3 what the F4F-4 is to the F4F-3.
Hope that the F6F-5 is upgradeable though it will probably eat Reppuu. Then you will get a +12AA or +13AA fighter.
I am surprised the Italian plane isn't upgrade-able. It makes sense why the German ones aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395163
>- 18slot is the best for fighters.
17 is better. Too bad no one has that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395681
>Using Graf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396177
>and the cost does not justify it

So, for F4F-3 to F4F-4, you need 4x T96 and 2x 12.7mm
Then, for F4F-4 to F6F-3, you need 6x T21, 4x T32, and ??? (to upgrade)
Finally, for maxing F6F-3, you need 12x T52 and 4x Shiden K2
(barring screws)

Uh, doesn't seem too bad, I guess?
Except when dealing with shortage of T21 and T52, at least for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396245
For me it's crafting Shiden K2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396245
Well if you consider how cheaper is to get a skilled 21/51 in contrast to a maxed hellcat then it is kind of bad.
>hen, for F4F-4 to F6F-3, you need 6x T21, 4x T32, and ??? (to upgrade)
Consumes T52 x 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Suzuya is a bad influence.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally have her. In the end I just had to wait until after midnight where I live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396270
Congrats, how did you do it? I'm trying 2-5 from time to time, but no luck so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396281
5-2, I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396281
2-5 is probably the best map to farm Taigei, I got more Taigeis from 2-5 than 5-2 myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>Hatsushimo now has different HP from Hatsuharu at K2
What did Tanaka mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396281
2-5. I never got her at 5-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396261
American equipment is meant to be expensive I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

W E W

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396334

It means that some dev started hating Hatsushimo and gave her a crippling nerf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396352

Katsuragi was 2-3 knots slower than the other 2 Unryuus because she used boilers designed for destroyers intead of cruiser boilers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396365
With 3 enhanced boilers Katsuragi is actually faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396204
>I am surprised the Italian plane isn't upgrade-able.
Tanaka hates Italians, they're lucky you can even upgrade their guns.
>It makes sense why the German ones aren't.
Why's that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396369

What the... how?

[Anonymous No.]

Chinkfag doesn't seem to be around. Oh well.

Seems like only this place is complaining about the prospect of the game becoming P2W. Otherwise, other communities have the same complaints as well.


Speed is now classified into 4 tiers: Slow, Fast, Fast+, Fastest (lit. Low Speed, High Speed, High Speed+, Top Speed)

Different ships can equip a different number/type of boilers to attain different speeds, see the list below
[List here >>16394860]

For this system, the current conclusions are:
1. Ships with their speeds changed will retain their ship type (so in theory you can't put 2 hotels in the escort fleet of combined fleet)
2. Fast+ and Fastest speeds don't increase the displayed evasion
3. Ships with increased speed will be affected by speed branching rules (a slow ship made fast will avoid the maelstrom at 5-4)
4. Ships with Fast+ and Fastest speeds won't help a slow ship avoid the maelstrom
5. The practical significance of the two speeds (Fast+ and Fastest) will need to wait until future updates to be found.
6. Different ships have different speed caps.

Presumption:
Speed > 1, Fast
Speed > 2, Fast+
Speed > 3, Fastest

Speed = Original speed + n(Amatsukaze boilers)*1 + n(Enhanced boilers)*0.5 + 0.5 (from improved turbine)
Original speed: specific value to be retested
Fast A: Shimakaze/Shoukaku-class/Mogami-class/Tone-class/Taihou
Fast B1: Amatsukaze/Agano-class/Souryuu/Hiryuu/Unryuu-class/Kongou-class/Iowa
Fast B2: Other fast ships
Fast C: Kaga/Yuubari
Slow A: Yamato-class
Slow B: Other slow BB(V)s/slow CVLs/AVs(?)/Taigei/Katori-class
Slow C: Akashi/Akitsu Maru/SS(V)s/Hayasui

A and B are to be further tested for individual ship exceptions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396058
I really liked the edgy doujinshi where an abyssal ate shitgure's top half, Chomp-style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396352
So wait, Amagi gets slower with 3 boilers than 2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396404
If both have 1 enhanced boiler and 1 Amatsukaze boiler, Amagi is faster.
If both have 3 enhanced boilers, Katsuragi is faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396415
Oh and Unryuu is affected the same way as Amagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396415
Oh right, didn't notice they were different types.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is he so great?

[Anonymous No.]

Can we share doujin KanColle music and videos? I mostly know stuff that was posted here and wonder if there is good fanmade instrumental music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZxUD3tBTaU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkzdP4AOGV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQl39epgmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lowKYXpSDBY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEQyVN_bXcY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31ns_dbCJFc

https://www.youtube.com/user/Tom106zany/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hemz3htKSBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETDD3GRugAM

[Anonymous No.]

>first try of 100/251/250/10 yields a turbine
wtf I love RNG now

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396459
>Can we share doujin KanColle music and videos?
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396336
>>16396304
Welp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396481
>that fleet
Anon, it's 2017.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396451
Based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396481

those CVLs setups are giving me cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396489
And I played this thing for just a couple of months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396497
What's wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396481
>Hibiki' eq
ugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396459
The ones I favorited were deleted by youtube, mostly Alice Syndrome ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396498111
And? You don't bring CA(V)s with CVLs to 2-5 anymore. It's 3 CVLs. Replace one CAV with a CVL and the other with a CL.

And that's before going into your atrocious equipment setups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396481

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396517
Oops >>16396498

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396481
>>16396518

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396481
Focus on getting the bobsquad (Myoukous and Tones) to kai ni before going into farming, especially before going into farming with such a wrong fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396517
It seems I'm too dumb to understand equipment setups.
And why can't I just send 6 BBs and level everything? Naval warfare is hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396459
>doujin Kancolle music

Have a cover instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo8mEcQANNU

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396544
>And why can't I just send 6 BBs and level everything?
Are you a reincarnated IJN commander? Have fun getting fucked by planes.

[Anonymous No.]

http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html?id=-KaCBslHW2T_rth6FG49

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396537
Slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396481
Are you trying to piss me off?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396627
For >>16396544

>And why can't I just send 6 BBs and level everything?
Because branching rules and fighter power.

[Anonymous No.]

So, if the gameplay session is somehow took kinda long to load or slowed, is that a sign that I've been flagged (falsely) as a bot? Just asking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396821
Only if you keep getting cats while playing.

[Anonymous No.]

So after the monthly reset, I decided to finally can try the new super duper awesome jets. Terrible opening torpedo performance, actually lose more planes and probably even worse shelling performance.

Buff when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396844

They are fighter-bombers anon, just fighter-bombers. Then again they are Fighter-Bombers 3 or 4 times better than any we had until now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396844
I sort of like the jets, they don't pack much power, but they helped me in 3-5 with not gimping my AA while keeping similar strike power and a chance to clean a mook before battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396844
>dive bomber fighters
>doing opening torpedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396844
they should just make them immune to shoot downs during the jet phase. it makes sense since they're too sanic to target or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396905
And then people will complain that enemy jets can't be shot down.

[Anonymous No.]

Guess who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396459
I have the orel cruising song downloaded, I enjoy this song too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396911
Unpleasable Fanbase much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396911
they would still be vulnerable to jet fighters obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396918
Purple chink Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396911
The difference is we have the greatest navy in history on our side, who was kind enough to give us their Bofors to shoot down abyssal jets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396942

You can say that again anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396481
HQ 96 with that overall setup. Hmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396983
It's a wikiashitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16394882

giving those DD's sugary drinks seems like a bad idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395701
>>16395722
I'm levelling dragons at 5-4 (with CLT kai flagship). My fleet is typically CLT flagship + fast BB + placeholder (usually CA or CL, but I can consider putting a third CV(L) below dragons) + dragons + drum mule. Which of these setups is the best for my dragons? With a max Iwai (I'll have the screws once I finish all my weeklies) which setup is the best? And if either of the latter 2 setups is the best, what do I put in the slot with no planes? I put SCAMP there as a placeholder for now.

With a max Iwai the setups have 355, 354 and 353 fighter power respectively. (This is with 120 internal proficiency for all planes. Most calculators including KCV's assume a max internal proficiency of 100.)

I don't have a 2nd Reppuu Kai so I can't go Murata/Iwamoto/Iwai/Reppuu Kai on Souryuu and Murata/[blank]/Reppuu Kai/Re.2005 Kai on Hiryuu, which would probably work better than the latter 2 setups (it also has 354 proficiency). If and when I do get a 2nd Reppuu Kai, what would be the best setup then?

Or is it better to bring a 3rd CV(L)? I have all the CV(L)s except Aquila.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395839
Shoukaku is a good girl!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397020
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397020
I prefer Kisaragi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397020
Supperior short ship comming through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397018
>>16397020
>>16397025

The thread on /a/ is still up, you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397032
Why don't you stay there, then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397032
>last reply nearly an hour ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396731
>>16396627
That looks useful but I don't see how. Is there some kind of guide or explanation for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396999
>gook

[Anonymous No.]

I've been thinking about it for a while, but is KanColle feminist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397051
>sexualising anthropomorphic female boats
Most definitly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397051
Are you high?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397051
It's a good thing right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397020
That guy sure loves to draw feet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397051
Damaged sprites say no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397051
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397051
FOR REAL !?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397051
Absolutely! The way the girls just jump on your dick the second they introduce themselves is a very accurate description of real women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397072
Hello Hyuuga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397047
It's the base 3 CVL setup. Even a newbie should be able to accrue at least that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397074
So, uh, Akebone and the likes are not like real women?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397081
Akebono, Kasumi and Michishio are the ones who love you the most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397081
Hmm? But I just said they are, and Akebono is a great example of one now that you mention it, what a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

Is 9 enough?
I should've stopped at 8 I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397089
Expect named or late American planes to eat named Japanese squadrons for upgrades (as a sing that the former defeated the latter).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397115
>named or late American planes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYU_eDMr4xE

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397119
>"Allied ships will never be in the game!"
That's you buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397119
I hope you know that Tanaka is always the one who has the last laugh?

[Anonymous No.]

But how?!

Um, no.
Wrong question.
But why?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397051

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397119
Eric Hartmann will get into the game too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397132
No, how is the correct question. I need to know!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397119
We are getting the F7F and F8F.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397089
You need 8 for shelling support and 16 for aerial support so no, it's not enough. In case you can't count, you need 24.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397089
No. 16 for double shelling support. If you're doing E6 and need aerial boss support you need more. And your main fleet needs bombers too.

I'm aiming for 24 T99s, 1 Suisei, 1 max M62 Iwai and 4 max M62.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397143
I hope we get an F4U first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397156
>normal M62 in an event
Wait, what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397158
You will get fighter bomber version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397170
Gonna need all the meme bombers I can get. Besides they still give decent fighter power on top of crit damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397171
With Tiny Tims.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397177
Why not just use good fighters and leave the damage to the Tenzans M12?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397182
Tenzans aren't dive bombers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397185
Then use Zuiun nukes with Egusas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397186
You don't seem to get it. I'm using zuiuns, Egusas AND M62s in my plans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397193
How do you even achieve AS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397196
I farmed all those M12s for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397196
>>16397200
Almost forgot about army dog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397213
Now that's just cheating right there. Reppuu Ken needs to be nerfed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397215
She's been useless for the past 2 events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397221
The thing about Army Dog though is that she's either really useful or completely useless. There's no inbetween.

[Anonymous No.]

Sara's "Oh my god" and "How are you?"
Are very cute and good. I sometimes unmute the game just for her. Tama-nee really is the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397143
One of these might be the final upgrade for the cat line and might possibly be the first 6-star plane in the game. The other probably ranking/event reward.

>>16397158
F4U might be a ranking reward or maybe we get another American carrier that give it. Or it could come from Sara's K2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397257
>One of these might be the final upgrade for the cat line
It won't be the F7F, that's a land base plane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397263
IIRC, the F7F was designed as a carrier plane but was rejected by the USN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397252
I do the same, her voice is adorable. Glad they got someone experienced for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397269
Well that's interesting then. I guess since Sara is huge anyways she could carry it but about the smaller Yorktown-class?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397269
>>16397263
The last variant of F7F actually did qualify for carrier operations. But Jets became a thing. only 12 of the carrier variant were produced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397273
Unless I'm mistaken, the F7F was too big for anything smaller than the Midway-class.

Then again, CVLs can equip the D4Y in-game even though it was too big for them IRL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397291
>only 12 of the carrier variant were produced.
Sounds like a prototype-tier plane to me, 10/11AA easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397292
Please just call it Suisei, I had to google what D4Y was.

[Anonymous No.]

Any reason to keep SBD? They seems fucking useless, I think I'll scrap them since I need equipment slots

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397273
Sara could have carried Jets in her hangars. Same with Yorktown class. The problem is that the flight deck would have to be strengthened and in Enterprise's case lengthed. However the USN did not need all these carriers postwar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397300
Named Daunltess that you can convert into a named Helldiver will require two SBD to consume.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397300
You'll need them to get the McCluskey Squadron version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397310
Wait is this real or am I being trolled right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397316
It's actually pretty reasonable based on how named squadron planes have worked in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397300
Possible conversion quest where we trade it in for a better plane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16397156 here. Revised my setup and it seems like I can ignore maxing fighter bombers. I'll still max the Iwai anyway since it has its uses. And max normal M62s will be useful for 4-3. It does prove that farming for 24 T99 Egusas are justified, though.

So anyway, if I had to do E6 last kill again, with the ships I used last time:
http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html?id=-KaD7nW9yXpYSu8AWm0J
In short, a slight improvement for equipment over what I actually used in spring.

Other ships (including support fleet DDs) not included. Fleet 3 is route shelling support. Fleet 4 is boss aerial support, and contains dupe cranes that I picked at E4 boss; after remodelling them for their launchers I figured I'd keep them around for this.

On a related note, looks like I have use for a 12th zuiun M12. I guess I'll get it as a ranking reward or something.

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>>16397379
picked up*

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>>16397379
>are justified
*is justified

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>>16397379
I just remembered I put Hayasui in main fleet and not in escort fleet. Oh well, that means I currently have two zuiuns too many.

Or I can just switch her to the escort fleet. Anyway, fixed.

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>>16397379

>I have use
*I have used

[Anonymous No.]

Does KanColle (or flash games in general) have the ability to know what programs I am running in the background? eg if I'm running an auto clicker (click a point in the screen many times a second) for another game would the devs be able to tell I'm running it? Or is it 100% safe

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>>16397305
Sara also needed her elevators upgraded. In fact one was useless.

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>>16397502
>100% safe
Do you know of games where this would be the case?
Anyway, unless you use that shit more than 50% of the time you play, i think you'll be marked for dead.

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>>16397453
It's correct. Here "use" is a noun, not a verb.

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>>16396999
I snapped out. Sorry for being late.
Your setups returned me with 355, 344, and 338 respectively so I can't help at all. Can you give me your new calculator or something?
But other than that there're still a few things can be done to your setups.
- Tenzan Tomo > Tenzan Mura. Always. Exceptions do exist though. Also always put Tenzan Tomo (3 acc 5LoS) above everything else.
- Don't use dive bombers at all except when needed. This is where type 97 Tomo comes to play. Undoubtedly 3rd best torp bomber, especially for ranking purpose.
- There's no reason to put Iwai in a 18slot. Literally nonsense.

And I wouldn't recommend doing what you're doing at all. Grinding CLT and low-leveled non-kai2 dragons in the same comp were just too much. At least but a heavy fleet there or sth. Like more FBBs and CVs.

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>>16397624
>but
*put
Fuck I need to go to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

Can I scrap Tenzan (601)? Tomonaga and Murata don't fit on one page and it's bothering me.

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>>16397651
But why don't you just scrap the more obsolete bombers

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>>16397659
T97 Skilled?

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>>16397664
Plain T97, and maybe Plain T99, anon

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>>16397675
Those aren't after Tomonaga in the list.

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>>16397651
Do you have OCD or something?

[Anonymous No.]

Here are my calculations. Again, I'm assuming 120 internal proficiency, which according to wikiwiki is the max.

>Tenzan Tomo > Tenzan Mura
Noted. But if I use both (like in setup 1), which one do I put in the larger slot?

>type 97 Tomo
That's news to me. Noted.

>There's no reason to put Iwai in a 18slot. Literally nonsense.
So the second setup is out. Alright. But any reason for that?

>At least but a heavy fleet there or sth. Like more FBBs and CVs.
Like I said, I have one free slot. So fast BB or CV there?

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>>16397678
>don't fit on one page

You want them just like that OR make it so that that Tomonaga and Murata stack on one another?

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>>16397692
For >>16397624

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>>16397681

>>16397694
Latter would be the best but it would require scrapping Ryuusei(601) which I will never do.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it a good idea to upgrade 20.3(2) for CLs and CLTs?

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>>16397722

Does that pic really triggers you?

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>>16397741
Yes.

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>>16397743
Yes.

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>>16397741
No. 20.3(3) for them as well.

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>>16397748
(2) has more accuracy and is easier to upgrade. Max (2) has almost the same firepower as +6 (3) while having significantly more accuracy.

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>>16397692
>>16397695
>Here are my calculations.
I'm not a math person so that image is totally useless for me. Isn't it always sqrt(slot) x AA + 3 + (3/6/22) for non-seaplane bombers/seaplane bombers/fighters respectively? Or I'm missing something.
>which one do I put in the larger slot?
Tomo magic always works for me so there's that, because more acc/LoS(both?) increases contact chance. But some extreme cases, again with Kaga and her slots, it's best to put Mura in the 46slot. Not sure about 3x-slot tho. It's actually hard. Comes down to preferences I guess.
>But any reason for that?
18slot is for nuking. Why would you put a non torpedo bomber in that slot anyway? Your 3rd setup is much better with 18slot for fighters and 10slot for Iwai.
>So fast BB or CV there?
Either both or remake the setup. Unless your fleet can B-rank reliably. Test for about 200 runs and then make the decision after.

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>>16397762
>3 + (3/6/22)
0/6/22

[Anonymous No.]

What's the recommended fleet for 5-5? Also, do you use route and boss support?

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>>16397762
>>16397771
It's sqrt(slot) * AA + sqrt(internal proficiency/10) + (0/6/22).

I'll reply to the rest later.

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>>16397772
2 FBB 4 CV, with at least Taihou Crane 1&2(A), and Sara as 4th.

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>>16397771
3BB 3CV

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>>16397772
No supports.

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>>16397771
>>16397773
Oops my bad. The only thing I could remember was that type 97 Tomo gives 3 more AA than ryuusei 601. And that helps greatly.

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>>16397777
>>16397779
>>16397784
Thanks, so support is just a waste of resources? talking about resources, how much does it cost this EO.

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>>16397804
Depends on Re's mood. Prepare for more than 10k.

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>>16397797
>AA
*FP, wtf am I doing. One should NOT be confused between AA and FP at all. Going to sleep then.

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>>16397762
Stage 1 of contact is slot size dependent but stage 2 isn't. Torpedo bombers however have a very low chance of proccing stage 1 on their own so you have to rely on recon planes for that.
>水偵、艦偵無しでもごく稀に触接が発生することから、艦上攻撃機にも開始率があるとみられるが極端に低く、要検証。

Anyway I found Suisei Egusa useful due to its shelling damage. When I have 2 setups which are identical other than one having Tenzan 12 Tomonaga and the other having Suisei Egusa, as long as I'm not fighting installations, no matter the map, around 2/3 of the time it's the setup with Egusa that gets MVP regardless of how the CVs are placed, so I took it to be superior to the T97 Tomonaga as well, since it does almost the same aerial damage on average (3.75 - 0.35*sqrt(slot size) to be exact) and a lot more shelling damage.

>Why would you put a non torpedo bomber in that slot anyway?
If I'm stuck between the awkward position of having excessive fighter power if I put Iwai in the small slot but not having enough if I put a normal bomber there, the next best thing I can do is to move a fighter from a larger slot to that slot and Iwai to the larger slot, such that I get just enough fighter power.

>Unless your fleet can B-rank reliably.
Never had problems with that regardless of the setup I used on the dragons, actually. Prior to this I was using a saiun in the 10 slot (before using saiun I went with something similar to the first setup I listed) but felt that having maxed my Iwamoto and getting close to maxing Iwai, I could reasonably upgrade my setup to something better.

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>>16397870
It's not even fixed at +3. For example putting it in Kaga's 46 slot gives 10 fighter power instead of 3.

>Going to sleep then.
Damn it.

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Is there any prequisite condition/quest before I could upgrade F4F-4 / F4F-3?

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>>16397872
3.75 - 0.35*sqrt(slot size) less*

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>>16397892
>prequisite condition
Yes. Have Saratoga as 2nd ship.

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>>16397897
Just realized that, for today, you can indeed upgrade F4F-3.
Only with Saratoga BASE form.

I might be late for this; but WHY devs?!

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>>16397808
Damn, i wonder if its worth it, im ranking but i dont know if i will really need to do 5-5.

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>>16397930
Do it for the medal at least.

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>>16395466

I'd fuck a child into Aquila.

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>>16396918

Shinano.

How much I wish she was ingame.

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>>16397930
It is worth it because 4 screws. And it's fun.

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>>16397930
It isn't.

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>>16397872
>>16397877
This will be my last post today.
>It's not even fixed at +3
Yes but we're talking about ranking here so my point still kinda stands. Usually one will only have
8~13slot for torpedo bombers so it's around that.
>Suisei Egusa
Ekusa. It's not an arguement so don't. I used to love Eku-chan so much that I became a fairycon, an even worse form than lolicon. Thanks to her I actually knows a lot more about how great dive bombers can be and also because of her I'm here right now talking about baux/planes/pilots/fairies. So I'm fully aware how deadly she can be. Also her name from the best ace bomber of IJN.
But here's the problem. Her aerial strike sucks ass. Maybe only my anecdotal evidences though. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Pic related when I was top 20 ranking in April.
My very first successful fleet. Tomo-chan + Eku-chan is a beautiful combo that can make any planecollefag cries.

And everything changes. When my girls are all 155 with their ridiculously high LoS Eku is no longer a good option. Type 97 Tomo can actually nuke much better than suisei Eku in my given condition. Again maybe I'm delusional
with only my anecdotal evidences so don't think too much about it.
>that I get just enough fighter power.
Only do that when switch between fighters <-> fighters. Because bombers get shot down really often so don't count on them much.
>Never had problems
FBB then.

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>>16397959
Now that's something i didn't expect, 2 CA for 5-5, how bad does it treat you?

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>>16397993
I had multiple months with Ashigara flagship and decided to use two CAs after marrying and luck boosting Prinz. Surprisingly it wasn't that bad. I think about a dozen of runs or maybe slightly more? It was a long time ago so I'm not sure. It was definitely below 20 sorties, that I can guarantee. Third month was going bad though and I ended up switching Ashigara for fBB. Later on I tried out Hotels which I consider the most successful comp for 5-5 and some other meta strats like 2FBB4CV.

CAs are pretty nice because they have better evasion and yasen than BBs, using one is definitely fine and two can work.

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>>16397984
I'll wait till tomorrow for your reply then.

>Yes but we're talking about ranking here so my point still kinda stands. Usually one will only have 8~13slot for torpedo bombers so it's around that.
Well yeah, it's true if for slot sizes of 7 to 12 inclusive, but if you're bringing dragons kai 2 or Saratoga or Unryuus for example, it won't ever be exactly 3 for them.

>Ekusa. It's not an arguement so don't.
Jiangcao. Whatever. Can't be assed to stick to a spelling. I just go depending on what the conversation's using at the time.

Either way, noted. I don't have problems with using it though.

>Only do that when switch between fighters <-> fighters. Because bombers get shot down really often so don't count on them much.
Yeah but the first node doesn't have much enemy AA. I doubt I'd lose that much in that slot. My pre-saiun setup on dragons used Iwai in the first 18 slot on one of them and I still got AS+ every time.

>FBB then.
Gotcha.

Also, setup 1 or setup 3? And if setup 3, SCAMP or something else? Like saiun or boiler or bulge?

[Anonymous No.]

Why does she want to be near Isokaze?

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>>16397919
Tanaka's logic is not your logic.

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>>16398071
Because trash goes with trash.

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>>16398071
>those faces

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>>16398071
Because the only time anyone noticed her was when they confused her for Isokaze.

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>>16397919
You can upgrade it on Friday and Saturday in Japan time with Saratoga Kai. It's slower but still doable.

[Anonymous No.]

Would you guys spend your fortunes on an event only African-American ship girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398286
Would you kindly fuck off already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398286
No because I would clear it just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank you based KTKM

[Anonymous No.]

My wife and daughter.

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>>16398071
Who is that near Isokaze?

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>>16398343
I only see my wife in that image.

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>>16398343
Stay on /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>2017
>15.5cm is still not fit

[Anonymous No.]

I want an event where the abyssal fleet is the one attacking.

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>>16398492
That'll be the Kure event.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>16398654
Stay on /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking hell, 5-5 is bullshit, that bitch Re, the dead end meme and the resource bullshit. Rankers have it hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398683
First time experience, on 5-5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398683
post your setup

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>>16398492
>>16398507
Why not defend Pearl Harbor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398693
Yes, never bothered with that EO because the bullshit it involves.
>>16398696
Here.

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>>16398683

5-5 is pretty easy now compared to when it was first introduced. Back then I'd say it was 10 times more difficult

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>>16398696
Is Bismarck drei a mandatory for 5-5?

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>>16398728
not at all

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>>16398716
Use Ryuusei 601 or Ryuusei Kai instead of Tenzan. Other than that, keep trying.

>>16398728
I was doing 5-5 before I crafted any of the LSC ships.

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>>16398741
So, Iowa Kai and Kirishima Kai Ni, they're more than enough?

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398747
Sure. Many people do it with only Bongous as their BBs.

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>>16398750
Map?

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>>16398756
You should know, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398750
What did you expect when you send a fleet like that.

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>>16398759
>5-4

Ah, yes.
Not often that I would go there, my bad.

[Anonymous No.]

So which ships are now holepunch essential?

Maya and Satsuki, of course. But who else?

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Hiryuu just got fucked by the opening strike of Re, kek, just kill me.
>>16398741
>Use Ryuusei 601 or Ryuusei Kai instead of Tenzan. Other than that, keep trying.
Got it, thanks sempai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398772
>Satsuki
What? There is no reason to holepunch Satsuki. Her unique AACI is awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398765
S rank as usual?

>>16398772
Waifus for Bofors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398772
The Akizukis.
Iowa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398772
Just Maya and Akizukis. Then you can holepunch anyone you want to be better and give them AA guns or armor.

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>>16398772
Ducks, Kasumi for her K2B, Kinu

Now, until we know how useful the speed meme becomes in the future: Jun'you, cranes, Ooyodo, your favorite CAs and the rest for whatever.

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>>16398772
Kinu gains a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

Monthly quest for access to Akashi holes when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398798
Don't you get a monthly paycheck?

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>>16398798
Monthly is too often. Quarterly at best.

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>>16398798
I'd like to access Akashi's holes.

[Anonymous No.]

1488

[Anonymous No.]

Did Ushio get yet another buff? It's like her fourth one since she got a kai ni. I don't know why they don't just give her +10 FP at once and call it a day.

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>>16398798
If you've been playing since the pasta event and didn't throw them away on dumb shit like Kamo and routing ships, you are suppose to have at least 15 I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398841
17

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>>16398776
Yes, but it's FREE

It only takes one gun, so you can do it with a holepunch and still run a normal setup on transport maps where the enemy planes are weak.

>>16398772
All large ships, because the new torpedo bulge is fucking strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398838
It's more interesting this way and you have ships to modernize for the daily quests.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/Wtbj5s9HlGA

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>>16398845
Fucking expensive too. If I want to put a super bulge on each of my waifus I'll essentially be doing 300 steel recipes every day til the end of times.

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>>16398838
I don't know why the fuck they decided to make a Kai Ni that originally buffed firepower and torp by just +1.
Wasn't playing when Ushio got it but how much did people here laugh at it?

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>>16398841
>mfw I put a hole in hayasui because back then resupply barrels were one of the few things you could put in the extra slots

Just fucking end me.

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>>16398870
Ushio's K2 was basically just a way to update her art.

For the other ships of her class they didn't even bother with the second remodel. Just updated the kai sprites.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398857
Cute.

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>>16398884
They'll kai ni eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398874
It's still worth it. Sacrificial torpedo bombers + 2 seaplane fighters is a reasonable setup for a terrible ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398866
I already have four big bulges and started crafting them since that update.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398841
I only have 6 + 1 used.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398841
As a newfag I only had two. One I accidentally used on Kinugasa and now for my second I used on Sara.

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>>16398870
People only cared about her BBs if you catch my drift.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398845
I love the fairy, but there is no way I'm developing that shit. I'd rather upgrade an AA gun for the +3FP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399007
Are you saying you don't have steel?
Just use x/x/300/250 for bulge and T32. That's merely 50 steel more than normally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399007
Mikawa quest taught me that even medium bulges can be worthwhile. Heavy cruisers and older battleships will always want more armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399044
I almost read that in Furutakas voice.

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>>16399023
He's saying he doesn't want to waste screws.

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>>16398716
>FP: 500
Way too much. 420 is plenty.
>4CV
Nigga, a 3rd APCI ship is much more likely to disable Re in time than a few extra blue planes.
>type 2 recon
Waste of space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398716
Im on final kill after 5 retreats, 2 dead ends and 1 fail kill (4 fucking hp), should i switch to 3BB 1 CVL 2CV or just go with this?
>>16399115
I agree with the excess on AA, i guess i could add another torpedo bomber, type 2 is for contact or so i want to convince myself and most of the time Re already disabled you before you can disable her so i opted for a stronger opening airstrike.

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>>16399136
>1CVL
No. Even Yamatos aren't worth it.
>type 2 is for contact or so i want to convince myself
You have fucking Shiun, what more do you need?
>most of the time Re already disabled
Why are you retreating then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399160
>No. Even Yamatos aren't worth it.
Yes. They easily are. You put the CVL in flagship spot, she never gets targeted and even if she does, sinking protection will save her from taiha.

Shiun has shit accuracy, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you kai your kitaooi when leveling them? I see a lot of people doing it in pvp but /jp/ always says it's stupid

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>>16399168
>she never gets targeted
Top kek.
>sinking protection will save her from taiha
Sure, until a leftover DD or enemy plane scratches her to taiha next turn. CVLs simply have too little HP to survive Re.
>Shiun has shit accuracy
Overall LoS is more important, plus Tomonaga is more likely to be selected anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399222
I never did, the ammo consumption goes through the roof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399222
it kind of wastes time

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399222
Of course. CL KitaOoi are trash. Kai KitaOoi are useful in PvP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399222
They get MVP way more often as CLT for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399222
Depends, if I were to level them in a combined map like E5M, I'd keep them as CL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399245
Stop projecting your mechanics-defying RNG on everyone. You can complain about poor luck but don't let it affect advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399270
Enjoy another 15 retreats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399278
Joke's on you, I never needed more than 11 sorties with Hotels. Stop being so shit at this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399281
I get the same result with 3fBB 3CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399310
OK. That doesn't justify you attacking other comps. You're only being a bother and don't help anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

Well guys im done, 13 runs total, to be honest i don't want to do it again, think they could tweak it, i mean 6-5 is easier, this was the setup for final kill. Thank you everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399323
You didn't enjoy your date with Re-chan? She'll be sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399318
It does when the poster in question states he's having trouble and admits to making mistakes. You can go out of your way to make 5-5 more challenging for yourself if you want, but don't claim that makes your comp superior. Using Hotels for a monthly map is not optimal. Retreating more than 10 times total is not optimal. Needing to go to yasen and STILL failing to score a kill means there's something horribly wrong with your setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399358
Yeah, and has troubles with different comp. Hotels comp is the most effective one. I know what I'm saying because I have tested all the comps. The best month was just six sorties. The worst was eleven. With other comps going above eleven is quite likely because they are far less sturdy and therefore less reliable.

>Retreating more than 10 times total is not optimal. Needing to go to yasen and STILL failing to score a kill means there's something horribly wrong with your setup.
Good thing this stuff will won't happen with Hotel comp. At least it's less likely than with other ones.

I told you. Stop forcing your bias on everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399380
>my anecdotal evidence is not biased because I say so
Ok.
>I know what I'm saying because I have tested all the comps.
Where's the data then?
> they are far less sturdy and therefore less reliable
Being 'sturdy' won't protect you from a crit. Hell, makes it worse because sinking protection is less likely to proc.
Come back with actual data and then we can talk. Fast fleet is something the majority settle on because

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399358
>Needing to go to yasen and STILL failing to score a kill
You do realize Hotels are stronger in yasen than fBBs? They also have much higher chance of not going to chuuha unlike fBBs who go chuuha/taiha after receiving one strong attack. And even if they do go chuuha, they will be much more powerful than fBBs at chuuha. You're basically contradicting yourself by posting arguments which favor the composition with Hotels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399330
I still have to date wanko but i will leave it to next week i think.
>>16399358
To be honest the failed run was my fault, i went with a half hp Iowa(shouha not chuuha) from the previous run and i did not want to bucket her, got taihaed on the boss and chuuha Bismark could not kill on night, so yeah i was a retard trying to save a bucket costed me a run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399431
> Fast fleet is something the majority settle on because
because
1) it costs less
2) The route isn't total shit
3) Bongo APCI does the job just as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Now this is the KC thread I know.

[Anonymous No.]

>event is near
>wikia still shills that very outdated (sometimes even wrong) guide
This makes me upset, it always misguides new people who read it. I sometimes feel like writing my own since the author is busy being a memer instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399431
You didn't show any data either so you have no right to post like that. Hell. You didn't even post a single argument, just your stupid delusions which have no basis in reality and contradict maths.

I did tell you the results. Do you really expect me to note down every single sortie for two years just to show it to you today? You are clinically retarded.

>Being 'sturdy' won't protect you from a crit. Hell, makes it worse because sinking protection is less likely to proc.
Doesn't matter in case of Hotels because they have enough HP and armor to survive it better than fBBs.

>>16399448
1) Cost is similar because fast fleet requires more runs and more repairs
2) The route is the exact same. Read the fucking wiki before opening your retarded mouth next time.
3) Until she gets chuuha'd or taiha'd. Or there's hankousen or red T. Re's torp can outright taiha a Bongo. Hotel would get hit for 30 damage with same hit. Not even chuuha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399467
Then do it, unless you have better things to do with your time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399432
>You do realize Hotels are stronger in yasen than fBBs
My point was that you shouldn't need yasen in the first place. The worst part of 5-5 is preboss, as long as you get past it you should be able to get a kill.
>They also have much higher chance of not going to chuuha unlike fBBs
>I don't know how crits work
> they will be much more powerful than fBBs at chuuha
Who gives a fuck? You have 5 more ships that one-shot escorts just fine.
>favor the composition with Hotels
Hotel composition would be indeed preferable if this was an event. But this is a repeatable map with a relatively small reward. The expense is simply not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399472
>crits happen 100% of the time and normal attacks don't exist
Just wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399472
Wait, don't tell me you sparkle your 5-5 fleet and that's why you're so obsessed with crits. That would be hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399431
>Fast fleet is something the majority settle on because
1) they don't have Hotels
2) they are scared of rumored high bills and never actually use them
That's the reality. People who have properly tried Hotels on hard maps know perfectly well that using them can actually save you resources because their advantage over other BBs is this big.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399469
>You didn't show any data either
I didn't argue otherwise. However, the overall consensus that many players support through personal experience is that fast fleet is indeed the best. Just search the archive for 'best 5-5 setup' and you find the same recommendation over and over.
>I did tell you the results.
Why should I believe you?
>Do you really expect me to note down every single sortie for two years just to show it to you today
If this is something you have actual evidence for, why not? That's how data in this game is gathered.
>Doesn't matter in case of Hotels because they have enough HP
No, that means that a 90crit will send them straight to taiha instead. Why are you invoking sinking protection if you don't even know how it works?
>1) Cost is similar because fast fleet requires more runs and more repairs
Not necessarily.
>2) The route is the exact same
You have a paper tiger in your fleet that's so out of the league of the other ships you HAVE to put her in the flagship position. That automatically makes the sorties worse.
> she gets chuuha'd
Affects cut-in proc rate, but not the cut-in itself. Hotels are no different.
>taiha'd
That automatically means a retreat and preboss, and at boss it doesn't matter because you have 5 more ships. Who cares?
>Or there's hankousen or red T
It doesn't affect 5-5 boss much when you're relying on crits anyway, and at preboss it's even good.
>Re's torp can outright taiha a Bongo.
Re's torp can outright taiha a married Hotel, too. Guess which costs more?
>Hotel would get hit for 30 damage with same hit.
That's not how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399477
>normal Re attack is enough to one shot taiha Kongous
Wow indeed.
>>16399485
I sparkle to improve evasion, not for some marginal crit chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399511
>1) they don't have Hotels
This isn't wikia.
>2) they are scared of rumored high bills and never actually use them
>rumored
You pay more to sortie them, even if they don't get damaged. They cost more to repair. Scratch damage takes longer so you're more likely to use buckets. How is that 'rumored'?
>People who have properly tried Hotels on hard maps
Yeah, like, you know, event maps. Not a map you do every month and that's only hard because of a single ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399550
>Re can't taiha Kongou with normal attack
There's no point in talking to you. As other anon said, go read the wiki.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>16399575
>>Re can't taiha Kongou with normal attack
That's not what I said. Stop putting words in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399583
>slow fleet but no Musashi
>regular Zero 62 instead of Kikka

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399619
>using either jet

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399619

I don't have Musashi

Jets die too easily on those slots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399538
>Just search the archive for 'best 5-5 setup' and you find the same recommendation over and over.
Just because fast fleet is recommended more often doesn't mean it's considered the best. It's simply used by more people and people recommend what they know. Since chevron update basically everyone starts doing 5-5 with fast fleet and they continue with it.

>Why should I believe you?
By that logic you wouldn't believe any data I posted either. See? There's no point in treating you seriously. You think you know better and refuse to accept whatever you don't like.

>No, that means that a 90crit will send them straight to taiha instead.
Not all crits are 90 damage. You're just choosing a single example and claiming it will always be like that. Stop.

>Not necessarily.
Well, no shit, this game has a lot of RNG. I meant average.

>That automatically makes the sorties worse.
No, it doesn't. You're confirmed for having no idea what are you talking about. How about some argument? You're only saying "it's bad because it's different from what I like".

>Affects cut-in proc rate, but not the cut-in itself. Hotels are no different.
Chuuha affects her power retard. Chuuha'd Bongou is weak as fuck even with APCI. Hotels are completely different because they still achieve damage cap in chuuha.

>That automatically means a retreat and preboss, and at boss it doesn't matter because you have 5 more ships. Who cares?
Exactly. And Hotels don't get taiha'd as often.

>It doesn't affect 5-5 boss much when you're relying on crits anyway
No. Fast fleet has to rely on crits. Hotels don't need crits. That's another reason why they're more reliable.

>Re's torp can outright taiha a married Hotel, too. Guess which costs more?
Re's torp can't do shit to Hotel without a crit, retard. Kongou dies to normal torp.

>That's not how it works.
Except it is. Hotels have 24-27 more armor than Kongous.

[Anonymous No.]

Res airstrike actually wrecks my ships more often than her torp does. Fucking 180 plane slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399586
What were you saying then with "wow indeed"? It was obviously ironic so you didn't agree with green part. Am I wrong? In that case learn how to express your thoughts before wasting everyone's time with your posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399583
The guns are a bit too weak but I guess you don't have 51cm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399649

I have 2 51cm but I value the accuracy.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any reason at all to upgrade this when Skilled 52 is better?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399659
Only 46cm doesn't have accuracy cap in single fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399665
None at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399665
More +11 AA (if maxed) planes are more than welcomed, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399665
It looks cooler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399665
When you haven't done the Reppuu 601 quest yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399675
But you have infinite amount of M52(S).

[Anonymous No.]

Something tells me the new 3 ships are going to be dd's.

[Anonymous No.]

>Abukuma and Kumano together in one fleet

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399749
Why not Abukuma and Chikuma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399755
I'm leveling Kumano.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399380
>I know what I'm saying because I have tested all the comps.
even the submarine one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399776
Sub comp makes little sense now in chevron days. Carriers are too effective not to use them.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Egusa farming still worthwhile?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399813
Of course it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399813
Even more now that Model 21 skilled have also become equally important.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>16399848
Kinugasa, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399872
Who else would wear bright yellow panties?

[Anonymous No.]

Whats up with these faggots that left these compositions all day. They dont even train their ships from the 1st fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399886
Hey now the girls can change their underwear you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399871
Nishizumi please, back to oorai and kuromori

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399886
Hamakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399871
Collab when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16395699
no

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399919
That ship sailed a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399919
Hopefully never.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399919
How would that even work? I mean you can have duck team riding the type 89 I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399889
>I'm gonna train those low level DDs today!
>admiral, clean up your room
>okay mom
>we're having guests today
>okay
And this goes for x hours.
Or he fell asleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399942
>okay mom
What are you? 12?
>muh sleeps
Kuso TTK's. I make sure to leave my 2 highest level ships before almost any afk. Even it is 1 hour or 30 mins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399958
I just close EO and leave whatever I was using.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399467
What's wrong with that guide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399942
I fell asleep with shit fleets many times before

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400000
same. indeed.
how do we stop this madness?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399942
>>16399958
I'm curious, what does /jp/ leave out for PVP? I really like cycling out my flagship so I can hear different secretary lines each day, but I always leave a wife in the second slot.

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>>16400065

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>>16400000
>>16400024
I read for a moment that you dont. Sorry.
Then I'll correct my answer: fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400065
I just hope none of them ever brings bombers. If they do, I take no responsibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400065
When it's not Akashi it's just one of my married ships that has hourly lines so I can occasionally hear them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400096
I never bring planes to PVP, I learned while ago by the hard way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400065
It's always an Akashi fleet. Rarely do I have all my shipfus together.

[Anonymous No.]

Cute, but I'm upset the expressions are all a little too simliar.

[Anonymous No.]

If I do 20-25 sorties to 5-4A each day, I can ignore morale and use up 0-10 bauxite per run, and only take ~10 days to get a dupe Souryuu to 78. Why do people do 3-2A again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400146
Other than Ri being determined to fuck you over.
I have no idea.

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>>16400065
When aside from rotating between my wife only/Akashi+repairs/ships I'm grinding that also have hourlies, I tend to leave1BB/2CLT/1SS/2xReppuu mules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400000
You dont care about the others? kuso ttk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398716
>T2 recon
>500 fighter power
lol

Also nice viewer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399249
My ammo's like 2.5 times that of all my other resources put together.

>>16399267
They consume the same fuel as CLT as they do as CL. And suijou was better for E5M than transport fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400151
How do you level 〇ゆ if your win rate is already fucked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399380
>>16399511
The one month I tried hotels comp (with Iowa) I got taiha at Re preboss half the time (fucking cranes being crit magnets) and both my 12 slots kept getting cleaned out whenever I reached the boss. The fact that I kept getting the dead end didn't help matters.

No thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399665
Consumes Tenzans instead of valuable 52s.

Also >>16399680

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400216
if slots are getting cleaned out that's your fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399784
Try subs comp with 2 CV 1 hotel.
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=10722035

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399891
But they always have the same colour.

>>16399958
Not him but I've fallen asleep in the middle of a sortie before, while training shit ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400235
That was with 420+ fighter power. You want me to bring 520 to combat the Wo node?

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>>16398062
Alright I'm fresh.
>and I still got AS+ every time.
Yes but be careful. RNG-sama can be harsh sometimes. Didn't have that much chance to test the 18slot. But with 8slot the maximum amount of planes can be shot down is 5~6 while 12slot would be 7~8. The difference is still there so I'm not sure. Usually they should be the same (6~18slot) with minimum 10 baux lost. 0 baux lost does exist but that's really rare and shouldn't be counted. But minimize the shot down cap is better obviously.
>Also, setup 1 or setup 3?
Can't test 3 so 1 then. Also as I said above remember that each bomber slot will cost 10~25 baux so balance those bombers amount.
>Like saiun or boiler or bulge?
- Saiun if your comp is not strong enough to prevent C-rank.
- Boilers for Sara only.
- Always put bulges in Akashi hole, not normal slot.
- SCAMP for range only. OTO +max for damage. Because OTO +max gives 11FP and 4acc, in case I'm wrong then it's still more than SCAMP's 1acc.
- Otherwise use radars. Always pick radars with firepower. FuMO is the best right now so it's easy enough.
- Also put Keiun +max for maximum kek. A special fleet composed of FBB flag/2 CA/2 CV/
4slot drum carrier with as high LoS as possible is hilariously broken.

I don't know much about the internal proficiency so I can't really talk about it. But I do know that higher tier planes will have more internal proficiences than other lower tier planes. But which one? And the exact amount? So I'm still gonna stick to the basic sqrt(10) internal proficiency then. That's probably why my fleet is fine with 354 and not 352 FP. Those unseen FP definitely helps a lot. The thing about FP is that one must have a sufficient amount to defend the aerial strike even in AS+. Talking about ranking only so 5~15 should be enough.

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>>16400235
A 12 slot is not immune if Wo kai shows up.

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>>16400251
Right, noted.

>Always put bulges in Akashi hole, not normal slot.
I'm not going to waste Akashi slots on farming fodder. I do have a bunch of max OTOs though so I guess I can go with that.

>Keiun +max
Gonna have to consider that.

>But I do know that higher tier planes will have more internal proficiences than other lower tier planes.
Only for starting proficiency. Everyone caps at 120. And after a plane gets to double chevrons I always send it on at least 4 more battles' worth of sorties to ensure they stay at 120.

>That's probably why my fleet is fine with 354 and not 352 FP.
Not really. As I said most calculators like KCV's cap at 100 so for the second node if they show 348 it's probably higher than that.

[Anonymous No.]

If shipgirl tits are filled with hopes and dreams, then what are Abyssal tits filled with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400251
>>16400278
Upgraded recon planes don't give extra LoS other than for routing. Just adding this in case.

>But with 8slot the maximum amount of planes can be shot down is 5~6 while 12slot would be 7~8.
Is the first node really that dangerous?

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>>16400289
Hopes and dreams.

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>>16399964
-Completely gloss over OASW (it's been half a year already)
-Don't even touch the more advanced anti-installation setups for DDs/AVs (a whole year)
-Literally nothing on land bases (this is the only thing I let slide because it's still a messy mechanic)
-Saying overweight penalties and AP shell affect support expeditions (it does not)
-A lot of the sample setups are garbage (unironically suggesting gun cut-in Haruna, mixed cut-in AACI, no mention of seaplane fighter mule Kamo because it's outdated)
The whole thing was written before plane proficiency and no updates have been made but it's still the "go-to" guide and people trust it because it's written by a mod. It's also highly likely the source of garbage comps we usually see posted during events.

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>>16400278
>to ensure they stay at 120.
I used to do that too without knowing anything about internal proficiences. But then I realized 8slot is 100% safe for ranking so I don't have to care anymore.
>Not really.
The only thing I can do is to wait for the official change from all the communities. Had I had a logging tool to test more though.
>don't give extra LoS
Isn't it 1.2 x sqrt(stars) according to akashi-list or I'm wrong again?
>Is the first node really that dangerous?
No it's the boss node. 2BB fuck bombers up hard. Usually it's like this (air-to-air phase - AA phase): 0 - 0 > 1 - 2 > 0 - 9 or even 0 - 15 in one fine sortie.

[Anonymous No.]

So I calculated that for 5-4-A, bomber slots with less than 34 bombers in stage 2 of the aerial phase are safe from the enemies' proportional AA. Calculating for fixed AA now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400312
>gun cut-in Haruna
>Bongou with the lowest FP

I'm glad this "guide" didn't exist when I started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400326 here. The most dangerous pattern to bombers in stage 2 is pattern 2, where there are 4 ships that can each shoot down 1 bomber with fixed AA. Pattern 1 has 3 and pattern 3 only has one. This doesn't include the extra bombers lost due to randomness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400312
What baffles me is that more than three years after its creation, the wikia still gets so much wrong. I guess it goes with the population.

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>>16400313
>I used to do that too without knowing anything about internal proficiences. But then I realized 8slot is 100% safe for ranking so I don't have to care anymore.
I do it for all planes (other than for planes which just need double chevron for quest requirements) in case I need them for something. Even if I don't need them for anything. Better safe than sorry.

>The only thing I can do is to wait for the official change from all the communities.
For me wikiwiki is good enough. IIRC there was a test proving it too but wikiwiki removed the link.

>Isn't it 1.2 x sqrt(stars) according to akashi-list or I'm wrong again?
Only for eLoS for branching purposes. No observed effect in battle.

>No it's the boss node.
Should be fine as long as it's double chevrons then since none of the bomber slots (including Iwai) give any difference in fighter power regardless of whether it's 100 or 120. It's only the fighters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400362
>Should be fine
Referring to just my setups here. It'll make a difference in Taihou's small slot for example.

[Anonymous No.]

What do the speed buffs even do? Also when can we get an actual good quest system like Touken Ranbu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400377
How does theirs work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400380
All quests are accepted by default and clear when you meet the requirements. None of this only pick up a few to count at a time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400377
>actual good
Yeah, it's called weekly and monthly quest.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Taihou so fast?
Was there some meme that I missed? Her specs only show 33kn. As a ref, Shimakaze can do 40kn on paper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400312
>Saying overweight penalties and AP shell affect support expeditions
You mean some people out there don't use proto/46cm for support?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400377
Right now only increase evasion. In the future, maybe extra routing and other mysteries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400387
160,000 horse power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400393
Pure American muscle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400388
Some use 35.6 and 41cm protos on Bongos of all things. Did you see how many people (wikia specifically) used AP shells and sanshiki in boss support for Spring 2016? That guide is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400349
Yes. From my observation it's 3 at most with a good setup. Maybe 4 but haven't seen yet.
>>16400362
>>16400369
>I do it for all planes
Yes double chevron is beautiful.
>but wikiwiki removed the link.
Ah rip then.
>No observed effect in battle.
Again maybe my only anecdotal evidence but 23slot type 0 obs +max in 6-4 is op. Pic related. It was cleared before landbases but after seaplane fighter buffs.
>Referring to just my setups here.
Yeah. Better safe than sorry like one should always do I guess.
>>16400377
>>16400384
Can't call you a retard but you must be inexperience in these stuffs huh. Just like real life, one can't do everything at the same time.
Picking exactly 5 up is most efficient multi-tasking way one should do. It's time for you to realize how good Tanaka-san actually is already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400408
>is most
is the most

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400393
And Sara had 180,000 hp and could overload to over 200,000hp. Literally nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400242
>Not him but I've fallen asleep in the middle of a sortie before, while training shit ships.
Okay okay... just try to not do that so "much".

[Anonymous No.]

fit plane when

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400289
They are filled with fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400442
More than half the planes you have become unusable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400433
>tfw did it twice in the last three days

[Anonymous No.]

She wouldn't be as bad if the hair was not green

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400523
No she'd still be just as shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400523
Green hair isn't the problem. Everything else is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400523
Everything else is just as bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400542
I forgot blue Shigure existed

[Anonymous No.]

Gotta go fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400688
That's bot going to save you from getting raped by aircraft.

[Anonymous No.]

how many more times are you supposed to do this? I don't think I have enough time/resources to do it again before the next event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400754
3 or 4 more.

[Anonymous No.]

Are red planes total shit? or im just good with green + blue planes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400791
You need 24 Ekusas for proper route support (8) and aerial support at boss in E-6 type maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400791
You need 24 Ekusas for proper route support (8) and aerial support (16) at boss in E-6 type maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400803
>"""""""proper""""""""

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400823
Yes, proper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400803
>>16400823
>>16400829
(((proper)))

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398750
Get gooder.

>>16398772
Maya, Akiduki and Hatsuduki, and your waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

I wrote this guide a while ago for new players too lazy to read the wiki. everyone said it was shit though, but I revised it a bit just now. it's not an event guide, but for new players who don't want to get made fun of when they post their fleet with gun cut ins and saiun in first slot.

http://pastebin.com/s5rrAur2

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400869
>The easiest way to beat 2-5 is taking the middle route using 3 light carriers.

I don't know how good that'll work for new players still trying to get their first blueprint when they still have shit planes and low level carriers. South with Kongous is probably the option for them.

Also it should really mention how important AS is and that you should use an AS calculator or viewer for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400523
But green hair is an upside.

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>>16400923
I did south with bongos the first time I cleared 2-5, but then I went back with the 2 carrier fleet because of a quest and it was way easier. I originally suggested that way, but it seemed like 3 carriers is the meta now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400966
My fellow man with god-tier taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16398787
Maya I understand, but Dukis? I'm not getting it

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just me or does KanColle seem to be getting more popular in the west?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401041
You are at least 2 years late.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400523
but shes already perfect, why do you want to ruin her?

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>>16401035
I think AA machineguns add a modifier to AA or fleet defense rate or whatever it was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400408
Ironically, it's not the pattern with the CVL and in ring. That one only shoots down up to 3. The formation with the Ri flag can actually shoot down up to 4.

[Anonymous No.]

Did the ranking meta change now that we have the turbine/boiler update?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400869
>2-5
>middle route
Lel no, there's only north and south.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400923
>>16396627
This setup contains equipment that even newbies shouldn't find too hard to get. Also has just enough fighter power for AS+ all the way.

I agree that getting AS or AS+ where possible is very important. The guide by >>16400869 should say something along the lines of carriers' primary job being fighter power, because I've seen far too many noobs putting only bombers on them.

>>16398787
It's not as important on Akizukis as it is on Maya, Kinu etc because Akizukis' strongest AACI doesn't use an AA gun while the others' do.

>>16401141
Probably. Now the top rankers are running married subs with turbine in the punched hole while having 2 maxed Amatsukaze boilers in their normal slots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400869
>Myoko
Myoukou

>Oyodo
Ooyodo

>Reppu
Reppuu

>Ryusei
Ryuusei

et al.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396627
Why the 3 Saiuns?

[Anonymous No.]

Just skimmed through your guide and I can already find plenty of mistakes. From the looks of it a detailed scan will cause many more to crop up.

You can also build Sendais from all 30. It's Myoukous who need 250/30/200/30. That said there are many reasons to recommend 250/30/200/30 instead of all 30, since you're guaranteed either CL, CA, rare DD or SS, all of which will come in handy in the early game. Also add a recommendation not to LSC too early. I would recommend only starting LSC once you've unlocked expedition 38, and even then only do Taihou recipe (for Akitsu Maru) or minimum LSC (for Maruyu).

The key to unlocking the early maps fast is using dupe cruisers. Along the way you'll get a lot of CL/CA drops. When one map clearing attempt fails, instead of waiting for them to repair quickly switch them out for undamaged dupes and try again. Keep doing this until you unlock 2-4, at which point you don't need the dupes anymore. When you unlock 2-4 spam 2-4-A until you feel ready to tackle 2-4. Also a lone SS is best for clearing 2-4. You also left out the fact that 3-2-A drops everything a player needs to unlock their 4th fleet (Sendais, Myoukous, Kongous).

New players shouldn't think of crafting drums until they unlock expeditions 37/38. 21 is useless. And while I'm at it, they shouldn't think of doing any expedition other than 5 (after they unlock it) until they unlock their third fleet, or any expeditions other than 2 and 5 until they unlock their 4th fleet. At that point they should stick to 2, 5 and unlocking TE. With maybe the occasional expedition 6.

>Expedition 21 requires 3 drums and has increased chance for great success with 5. Expeditions 37 and 38 require 8 drums and have increased chance for great success with 9.
This is bullshit. 21 needs 3 and has +40% chance of GS with 4. 37 needs 4/5. 38 needs 8/10.

Finally:
>Remodelling
>Leveling
Stick to one form of English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401222
Meant for >>16400869

>>16401219
Obviously lower level HQ TTKs can do with less LoS, but that setup is designed for up to HQ 112.

That said if they haven't obtained better equipment by then they're doing something very wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone datamined the Vita game for normal construction?

[Anonymous No.]

Is upgraded 25mm (not CD) better than bofors for ducks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401294
Only upgraded CD is

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401294
If upgraded to max, sure, bonus fp is nice.

>>16401298
Nobody has screws and fodder for this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401222
> there are many reasons to recommend 250/30/200/30 instead of all 30, since you're guaranteed either CL, CA, rare DD or SS
I'd actually call bs on that because all 30 guaranties mimimal expenditure for a chance of a better gain. On the other hand, 250/30/200/30 has a good chance of giving you the same stuff that all 30 gives you.
While trying to build a carrier 1 time everyday for the last 2 weeks with 300F/30A/600S/400B (12.5 carrier chance) i got a fucking basic DD 4 times. Must've been my "luck", but unless you are hard-pressed to build something specific (or don't need to level ships), all 30 seems better imo, while you can get most of the useful, for entry, stuff while going through world 2-2/3/4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401308
You only need to upgrade CD to like +2 for it to be better than Bofors AA-wise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401322
It will be worse in every other field though. Upgrading (CD) is a waste of screws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401324
Then you might as well just stick to Bofors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401317
>there is a chance to fail so you should never try
I call bullshit on you.

250/30/200/30 gives a lot of great crafts, it's the best recipe new admiral can do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401326
For normal sorties AA isn't vital, added firepower will help more. Max AA gun in expansion slot is a good idea for DDs. Screws are finite so you want some cheap upgrades and 25mm triple is nice for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401317
>On the other hand, 250/30/200/30 has a good chance of giving you the same stuff that all 30 gives you.
You know how I know you've never tried 250/30/200/30? The only overlaps of results are CLs.

The problem with the carrier recipe is that it defaults to the first group of results, which also has DDs among the crafting pool. Same for group 2, the BB recipe. Group 3, which 250/30/200/30 defaults to, is the only group of crafts that's devoid of common DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401327
I dind't say you should never try, i said
>unless you are hard-pressed to build something specific
Otherwise all 30 is more resource efficient. Most cruisers you need can be obtained throughout world 2 and using resources on sorties will be less beneficial only if you don't have anything to level.

>>16401333
I did 250/30/200/30 only to get Shimakaze (who only droped from 3-1 for me) and Yukikaze (build a total of 3 of them).
Like i said cruisers are easily obtainable in world 2 and unless you really need them right now ASAP (or don't paly SparkleColle expeditions 24/7 for most efficient resource gain) sortieing to get cruisers is simpler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401332
It's a waste of 6 screws and one piece of fodder every time. You have much better shit to upgrade, including battleship guns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401333
Wouldn't group 3 be 250/130/200/30?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401352
You don't waste any screws upgrading 25mm triple. It's free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400715
But bots didn't exist in WW2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401361
You're much better off upgrading 35.6cms. It's just as free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401348
New players are hard pressed to get ships available from 250/30/200/30 and they can't get really them otherwise.

>while you can get most of the useful, for entry, stuff while going through world 2-2/3/4
They won't give you subs or Abukuma or Yukikaze. Shimakaze has bad drop rate from 2-4 so there's no harm in getting her from construction.
Subs are crucial. Abukuma is blueprint priority #1 and the most important CL. Shimakaze and Yukikaze are the only DDs who are strong at low levels.

>Otherwise all 30 is more resource efficient.
It isn't. You're throwing away resources without getting anything. 250/30/200/30 has good chance of giving you something useful (CAs) and decent chance of giving you something otherwise unavailable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401367
Get real. We aren't talking about players who started two months ago and got Akashi last week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401348
Yeah nah, why should I spend days farming cruisers to unlock 2-4 when I can unlock it much faster just crafting them. I literally only need to devote one day to unlock 2-4.

Besides you need subs as well and 1-5 has a shit drop rate for them at lower levels.

>>16401360
I don't know the exact formula, but Vita should use something similar to what the browser game uses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401373
>can't get really them
can't really get them*

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401361
If you actually did your weeklies you wouldn't ever have a need to do "free" upgrades.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401385
Okay, so you're just a retard who hasn't reached end game yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401393
On the contrary, just do those monthlies for medals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401398
6 medals isn't enough for shit like pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401401

>Using the slider at 7

[Anonymous No.]

>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who don't buy screws

>>16401401
>slider
Top lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401410
Idon'twhat'syourproblem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401406
>>16401410
Three 46cm are ~40k ammo and 40k steel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401410

Not everyone here is crap at managing their upgrade schedule like you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400966
Just terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401417
I think you can shove that schedule up your ass if you have upgraded all the basic stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401406
>>16401410
Without the slider it takes 7 screws. If you fail, you're 4 screws behind, on top of losing rare equipment. Using the slider in case of +6 51cm is a correct decision from mathematic point of view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401401
>>16401415
Mate, you're clearly doing something wrong if literally the only things you can upgrade are than 25mm triples and super expensive stuff.

>>16401417
>muh upgrade schedule
From quests, you get 1 a day, 12 a week, 14 a month, and 9 a quarter. You also get 24 a month from EOs.

Assume 4 weeks to a month, on average every week you get 7 + 12 + 14/4 + 9/12 from quests, and 24/4 more from EOs. So that's 29.25 screws a week. All I need to do to follow the upgrade schedule is buy 3 batches of screws every week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401410
If I bought my screws I would be even less likely to waste them on stupid shit.

[Anonymous No.]

https://exhentai.org/g/1017087/ef25d6d200/

Murakumo a best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401456
>Mate, you're clearly doing something wrong if literally the only things you can upgrade are than 25mm triples and super expensive stuff.
Not literally. It's just that 25mm will help me more than other free stuff.
Having all the essentials already done is doing something wrong? Good to know.

What do I have left for upgrades?
Good guns beyond +6
Quints/Sex near/beyond +6
More fighters for land bases
ASW beyond +4
More radars
Daihatsu but I have more than enough resources
Ridiculous shit like bulges or boilers.

25mm triple doesn't look so bad, eh?


>All I need to do to follow the upgrade schedule is buy 3 batches of screws every week.
>buying resources
Just no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401486
>More fighters for land bases
I'd pick this over 25mm triples. It's just 2 screws a day for normal M21 which you can upgrade to skilled M21/52 through a quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401486
>25mm triple
Hahahahaha.

When you have nothing to upgrade, you default to AP shell. Do 10/30/90/10. Good recipe, since they also give you mats for akiduki guns and maya guns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401515
I never use them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401515
>mats for akiduki guns
1 OASW ship 5 farming fodder to 1-5. You'll have five 10cms in a few hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401528
You are supposed to max out T1

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401499
I think I'll max a single 25mm to use the one from quest and go back to fighters indeed, even though they aren't too useful everyday.

>>16401530
They drop from almost every development recipe, I don't think there's a need for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401536
I don't know about you but I'm preparing 6 each of M21 and M52 for landbases.

Of all the planes that you can easily get multiples of, M52s are the best at ranges 5, 6, 8 and 9, and M21s are the best at ranges 7 and 10. Since Reppuu isn't upgradable yet.

[Anonymous No.]

what's the fastest way to get multiple CLTs up to 50 for the sextuple torp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401623
CLT/fast BB/CLT/CV/CV/drum mule

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401041
I wonder why.

[Anonymous No.]

Whyyy

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401636
I wanna give Iowa the mating press.

[Anonymous No.]

This is no way for a lady to dress!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401753
It's the outfit from chink Akatsuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401485
This was actually pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401685
Dance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401001
Yamakaze gives green haired girls a bad name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401685
Anon, that's nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

I wanna raise her seriously

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401996
I never understood why she has 2 different turret designs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401996
Her backpack rigging isn't connected to her, it's just floating. Wakaba had the same thing, the fuck are they doing? Did they spend so much time on the Ayaki ships they think everyone has flying rigging?

[Anonymous No.]

>no fairy anime
>no fairy nendos with their equipment
>no fairy key chains
>no fairy anything
It's like they hate money, I always thought they would get a wave of merch, but still nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401981
She doesn't need you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402069
Expendable creatures don't deserve merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401996

It is yellow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402069
They'll make pretty neat puchi nendos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402116
Wannabe slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402069
They did show up in the anime, pretty often actually. Yamato even had maid fairies.

[Anonymous No.]

https://exhentai.org/g/1017190/dfd58856c9/

Daijobu!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402107
But the Reppuu dog is so cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402107

Anything that sells deserve a merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402319
Maybe that is why Kadokawa doesn't want to make merch of them, maybe they feel they wouldn't sell well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402345
This. The only remotely successful chibi series I know is Puchimasu which is on completely different level than kanColle fairies. None of the fairies have any strong following. Hell, merely a couple of them are widely recognizable - error musume and compass girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402345
I think if it was the compass fairies it should do fine no problem. Maybe catbomb fairy and tutorial fairy, but that's it really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16399889
Oh, what a surprise...

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402386
It's rare to see someone else using Poi around here.

[Anonymous No.]

https://exhentai.org/g/1017232/ea29e94a32/

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402386
At least he isn't actually dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400116
What are you kidding me? You would risk not getting a nice rank+xp in order to save 800 bauxite every 12 hours? WTF??

[Anonymous No.]

>>16400065
Recently I leave 6 CAs who still don't have Kai Ni, most without eq. One is married. Other than that usually it's 1-2 waifus or Akashi with highest level in second spot (but Akashi is lv95 anyway).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402416
>Kamelie

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402386
>>16402417
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16401753
Well good thing she isn't a lady anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402815
>Kancolle memes
Fuck off reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402815
Horrible.

[Anonymous No.]

Where are these hand gestures from? I've been seeing it for a while now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402925
It's a dance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402925
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2016/12/06/new-love-dance-takes-japan-by-storm-thanks-to-a-japanese-drama-and-a-handsome-j-pop-star/

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402932
>new
But it's not new.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm throwing money at the screen, but nothing's happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402946
Kill yourself abyssalfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402946
>Abyssal Fleet Collections
I sold my organs and throw the money at the screen too but nothing happens

[Anonymous No.]

This speed stuff cracks me up

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403029
>Kaga can't reach max speed.
Total kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403044
Don't worry, branching will favor her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403029
Did Zuikaku become an F91?

[Anonymous No.]

For the new quest, should I get the boiler or the turbine?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403068
What you have less. Both are useless and easy to get.

[Anonymous No.]

Do any of you bother with 1-6?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403093
Literally free rsc

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403093
Yes, with Akizuki flag+5 disposable DD/CLs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403102
This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403053
You wish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403093
Free resources, especially with a sacrificial fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403044
Yeah, it's pretty weird considering she hits fast+ at 1 boiler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403106
It would be nice for a change. Well, at least there's always a high chance she'll allow effective setup with her big slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403114
Tanaka hates her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403127
At least she doesn't get awful seasonals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403029

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403130
She has no seasonals on top of having the worst Shibafu standard art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403146
Lol no. Her standard art is very good, one of Shibafu's better. Her promo art while obviously bad, is at least better than that of other Shibafus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403146
Ever notice the extremely popular girls rarely get updated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403146
It is pretty bad to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the prerequirement for that new furniture fairy quest? I still haven't unlocked it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403152
Shibafu's recent drawing of Kaga look nearly as bad as his recent drawings of Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403167
Yes. That's why I'm glad the Kai Ni turned out to be fake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403125
She can't even hit the highest speed, Akagi can do it with 1 free slot and cranes while having 2 free slots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403174
So what? It doesn't change anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16396999
>>16397624
>>16397692
>>16400278
KCV's calculator does caps at 120. What it doesn't take into account are upgrades to fighter-bombers (0.25 per upgrade)

The lower bound also assumes that all bombers have 0 internal proficiency and 0 AA, which can get really annoying. But I guess that applies to pretty much every calculator

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403182
does cap*

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403182
Lower bound is simply useless. Never look at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403188
The lower bound be useful if it took the minimum possible level of proficiency (contrast to the upper bound which takes the maximum) instead of what it currently does.

[Anonymous No.]

EO has updated, get it while it's hot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403197
Ta-chan crit me anyway, this will regenerate morale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403197
Last update to EO was 19 days ago m8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403202

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403202
I mean the English one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403205
>>16403206
>English
Why is it so slow? Even the chink one updated 18 days ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403214
I imagine it's because of the holiday season, nip EO updated right on Christmas. 2.5.1 updated a day after the nip one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403197
I hate how updating does not import previous information

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder who would be the artist in charge of African-American ship girls if they were implemented

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403230
Like what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403233
Why won't you just fuck off already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403230
Copy the Settings and Record folder, nigga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403233
Shibafu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403233
The Potato man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403230
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403230
Just choose to replace all the files when extracting the folder instead of deleting the old one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403236
There's no need for that, you can simply unpack the archive to the same location.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403233
Go back to realhistoryww.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403247
Oh, that's even better, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403250
You're welcome. I don't blame you, I made a back up copy before testing this as the risk seemed very real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402731
a fagot

[Anonymous No.]

https://exhentai.org/g/1017271/6ffa4bf30c/

Speedsuck a best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403262
>big breasts
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403262
>Hayasui can't suck faster than Fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403266
Sup RJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403287
May I take your order?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403287
I like my RJ flat, thank you very much. And Hayasui should stick to her CG with moderate ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403287
I would be fine with those tumors if doujinshi was about inflation. Sure, everyone can enjoy whatever he wants. However saying the being in that work is supposed to be Hayasui is disrespectful to the character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403321
Well, at least the face looks the same.

[Anonymous No.]

Today we will get info of the next Kai Ni right guys? You can feel it in your bones, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403349
True, this one is better than many others out there. I'm feeling a bit bad about my harsh words after remembering some other stuff where things were much more out of proportion.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone like the wiki's new LUA?
I find it unsettling right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403354
No but I can feel it in my bones that Sara will show up in the 4koma tonight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403354
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403354
Yeah, I'm ready for USS Prinz Eugen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403379
What will be the stat changes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403382
Increased luck and armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403384
Cool. Nothing about about firepower and evasion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402463
I'm still waiting for his Asakaze doujin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403354
Ready for Pola.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403262
Hayasui needs more doujins

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403354
The CA K2 will be like the jets-teased once, never spoken of by Kadokawa again, and totally fucking useless when it actually comes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403455
It doesn't have to be useful. I just want to see which art of Aoba gets the ring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403462
Why would Kai 2 look worse than Kai when the artist has improved?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403462

>Aoba

That's a funny way to spell Zara

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403467
It isn't set in stone. Look at Shoukaku for example. Konishi has definitely improved as the artist but Shoukaku Kai Ni lost a lot of charm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16402946
Chinks should totally make it instead of more clones

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403408
>>16403468
>still expecting Tanaka to give the Italians anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403455
I think shoving a Daihatsu up Kinu's ramp was a useful kai ni.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.strawpoll.me/12093712

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403478
>But in the calendar pic, you can see that Shoukaku Kai Ni looks great, so i want to believe he was rushed, still i wish people complained in the twitter as they ask for samiwho remodel so we get a shot at new art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403522
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403527
Myself :^) , sorry im sleepy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16403502
I voted for all but Pola. Didn't want to vote for Takao at first but brackets were pure gold.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a place to power level Akashi? Mine's been sitting at level 35 ever since Spring 2014.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404062
PvP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404062
You can make her fast now and go to 5-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404092
>make her fast
Right. I hadn't considered that at all. This should be interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

現在「艦これ」運営鎮守府では、妹の世話が大変な海外生まれの重巡姉妹の一番艦、そしてバリ島沖海戦や三次に渡るケ号作戦で活躍したある駆逐艦娘のさらなる改装(改二改装)の準備を進めています。今冬～春先までに実装予定です。お楽しみに！

[Anonymous No.]

AHAHAHAHHA
ZARA CONFIRMED

[Anonymous No.]

>妹の世話が大変な海外生まれの重巡姉妹の一番艦
We armored cruisers now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404106
Battle off Bali and off the coast of Bali?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404106
What about the destroyer? Any hints?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404124
Badung Straights?

[Anonymous No.]

LOOK AT HER
LOOK AT HER AND
LAUGH

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404106
Pasta will rule the waves!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404139
>I wanted it to be a different ship, especially Zara to add to the butthurt
>The outcome came to be
I should feel bad but I don't, this is great!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404106

>Aobafags BTFO

LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

[Anonymous No.]

It's Samiwho all over again. Where you at Zarabros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404106
>>16404107
>>16404122

Enjoy your +1 armor.

[Anonymous No.]

will they make zara easy to get somehow? I started on the last weekend of her event so I wasn't able to get her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404106
>Don't have Zara because I started around Spring
Feels bad man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404124
Badung Strait off Bali.

The DD in question participated both in Ke-gou and in the Battle of Badung Strait. The only DD that I can think of that participated in both is Arashio, although I might have missed out someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

I think the DD is Michishio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404158
Lv 99 here, glad she's getting some love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404106
Hopefully she drops next event. I don't have her since I began after Spring event.
That said I had a feeling Tanaka would give at least one of the Italians a K2 before moving on to the Americans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404166
>>16404169
Please tell me you're bullshitting, we don't need more Asashio remodels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404166
Which one is Ke-gou?

>>16404169
They would've said Leyte for Michi.

[Anonymous No.]

>今冬～春先までに実装予定です
This fucking faggot, then when is Sara Kai 2 gonna arrive if we have to go through Zara and a DD first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404171
>no ring

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404158

Right here

[Anonymous No.]

>It's an Asashio class remodel episode again.
Fucking hell, i know i asked remodels but can they drop that trash class and start giving remodels to the Kagerou and Yuugumo class. At least i have Zara so i will get something i guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404185
Late this year. When more people have converted their F4Fs to F6Fs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404180
>They would've said Leyte for Michi.
You're right. It's Arashio for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404166
>arashio

I hope you are right because her art right now is really shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404180
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ke

>>16404185
Autumn 2017 :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404198
I might have missed out someone else, or worse, interpreted the tweet wrongly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404199
>Autumn 2017 :^)
Tanaka said it would be this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404158
>meme'd Zara hard enough for a remodel

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404158
Best aircraft carrier

[Anonymous No.]

Well at least we know Zara will be a drop in the next event. Right? Right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404218
It's been a year so maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404179
Yeah we need Umikaze/Harukaze/Shiratsuyu remodel

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404231
We need Yuugumo remodel.

[Anonymous No.]

Hopefully Jiji will deliver and Tanaka won't make her shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404139
So what happens now? Suicide watch? Some nips were going crazy for Aoba kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

The DD they are talking about participated both at the Battle of Badung Strait

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Badung_Strait

And Operation Ke

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ke

That practically points only to Arashio. I hope you are ready for Konishi's greatest semen demon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404106
I knew it, I fucking knew it. The wait was too long for it to be Aoba and there weren't enough hints. Thanks god Zara is my favorite Italian so it doesn't hurt that much and I'm glad for her because she deserves one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404240
Personally I'm kinda relieved. Wont have to deal with the inevitable shitposting about stats or art and honestly Zara needs it more anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404199
>>16404250

Isn't KE also Kiska?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404193
Kagerou class remodel? What is this, 2019?

[Anonymous No.]

>it's not Aoba
Looks like I'm going to resume my Choukai farming. If it isn't a nip CA there's no way I'll get excess T22 kai 4 fodder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404250
It would have been better if it was Yuugumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404260
Yes.
Operation KE 1943 - Japanese evacuation of Guadalcanal, Solomon Islands
Operation KE (Kiska evacuation) 1943 - Japanese evacuation of Kiska, Aleutian Islands, Alaska, United States

[Anonymous No.]

>Zara k2
>Arashio k2
STOP. I don't want to buy more rings right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404260
Yeah, but Michishio participated in neither.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404284
You don't need to buy rings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404250
>Zara
>yet another Asashio-class

Now we just need another trophy Shigure and meh CL remodel and we're good to go for 2017.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't say I'm disappointed. Arashio has always been best Asashio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404293
Don't forget Saratoga at the end of the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404292
Depending of the future this can very easily change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404158
I actually trained her on 5-4 this week because I was fully expecting this outcome. Zara is great and I hope Kai Ni fixes any possible issues other people had with her art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404293
The Shigure-class is already done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404304
Remodel I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404160
Yes, she'll drop from 5-5 south route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404160
She will drop next event.

[Anonymous No.]

lel it's already happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404297
>Arashio has always been best Asashio.
Said a total of 4 people around the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404158
No, Samifags kept thinking it was her even after they gave several hints that made it obvious it's Kawakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404321
This is gonna be good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404298
She'll get the remodel in December, I can feel it. It will be the third remodel of 2017.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404321
>Not using the catalogue

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404326
>>16404297
I like her too. Hopefully Michishio never gets a K2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404327
I thought it was Sami from the first hint but the second and third hints made it too obvious it wasn't her.

[Anonymous No.]

FOR FUCK SAKE I DUN EVEN HAVE ZARA
WTF TANAKA

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404350
I don't even have Kawakaze back then, when they announced her K2.
Calm down anon

[Anonymous No.]

My body is ready.

[Anonymous No.]

Now the important part, what will be Zara's stock equipment?

[Anonymous No.]

Why did Tanaka suddenly get an Asashio-class fetish?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404321
Summary?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404364
Nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

Apologize.

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>>16404297
This. Two years ago she was one of my favorite DDs. I regret parting my ways with her, it was a hard decision. It's just that nothing was happening with her, the feelings waned, slots were tight, I decided to scrap her and other Asashio class remodels happened making me forget about Arashio even more. I hope she will forgive me and will perform as well as in my first event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404321
Link pls, I always forget it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404364
A new type of 203mm/53

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404364
Nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404365
Same reason he suddenly had a Sendai-class/Haguro-class fetish two years ago. Konishi probably agreed to a whole batch of Kai II sprites at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404350
>>16404359
Chances are good that she'll be a drop in normal maps after this so don't worry.

Map 2-6 incoming.

>>16404365
It's just his way of telling us that the next event will be installations galore.

[Anonymous No.]

>They will be implemented around winter ~ early spring.
I don't like this wording, i hope to be wrong but this sounds like they are pulling a 2016 when they said 3 remodels on spring, we got the first 2 on the same month and last one 2 months later, and that was the second last remodel of the year until kinu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404378
Calm down anon, you can wait for the stats before you pretend to have loved her this whole time.

[Anonymous No.]

https://exhentai.org/g/1017350/290c45380d/

I wanna be cheered on by Haruna.

[Anonymous No.]

starter need more love desu

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>>16404106
Aoba, Takao or Atago, Prinz, Pola, I'd prefer literally anyone else. Well, at least we'll get more art by Jiji.

I started playing almost 2 years ago and not even one ship I like received second remodel since then. And it's not like I'm heavily into fodder DDs or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404388
I don't even have any screenshots from that event map ;_;

I never loved her but she was quite close to the top of DDs. I hope she gets nice art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404379
Sore losers
http://dec.2chan.net/60/res/11917735.htm

[Anonymous No.]

What branch routing ships are we looking at for the event besides the Asashios?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404415
>今日俺の心が少し死んだ

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404419
Fastest bullying fast and slow.

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>>16404408
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

Y'know, I'm fine with Zara getting the remodel. There are truly no bad girls when it comes to CAs and even though I would've preferred Aoba, Zara was more probable because Jiji is just that much more active than Hatsuko.

I'm not fine with the Asashio class getting yet another remodel. At least it's with Arashio and not Michishio.

[Anonymous No.]

>あおば
>でない
>つらい
I shed a tear at this little poem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404435
>There are truly no bad girls when it comes to CAs
Kinugasa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404435
Prinz is pretty shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404442
Well she already got her Kai II so you don't have to worry about her taking anyone's place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404435
I fully agree with you, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404435
Takao, Maya, and Kinugasa are all garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404435
Prinz has a terrible personality. I wish her voice actor voiced someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404450
>Maya
Opinion discarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404453
Akizuki and Nowaki

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404458
Admit it, you only like her because of her stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404453
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/d/d1/Prinz_Eugen-Secretary_2.ogg

She seems to be a nice girl though

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404445
>>16404453
Prinz is the cutest CA. All CAs are at least good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404435
>There are truly no bad girls

As you can see, saying things like this just results in a dozen people coming out to mention whoever they like the least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404450
>>16404442

>Kinugasa
>Bad

WTF is wrong with you people? Did she do anything bad to you or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404468
>All CAs are at least good

Except Kinugasa and Furutaka.
They're both shits

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404468
Aoba-class and Furutaka-class are shit tier even with Kai 2s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404468
Months ago I said Zara was the second cutest CA after Pudding and all I got were replies of "shit taste".

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404453

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404474
Her only saving grace is her nice CG.
Stats? Suck ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404474
It's statfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404474
Only hipsters or statfags trying to hide that they're statfags like Kinugasa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404478
>>16404479
Kuma can outdamage them without a kai2 at that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404478
>>16404479
I'm not talking about stats.

>>16404480
I ignored your post back then because while consider Zara to be cute and the best Italian tied with Libe, I think there are cuter girls than her.

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>>16404494
Kuma is annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404480

There are people here who are seriously shitting on great girls like Kinugasa so don't take then seriously. Zara is cute as fuck too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404505
>shitgasa
>great
I bet you thought Aoba was getting a Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Next it'll be her turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404365
He became a lolicon now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404479
True. Kuma, Nagara, and Natori, in yasen right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404494
>>16404528

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404521
Sara will be the first Yoshinori K2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404504

[Anonymous No.]

New bread with slightly tweaked news
>>16404544
>>16404544
>>16404544

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404555
But we haven't even reached 200 images here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16404566
This thread will die if a new one is made right now. What does it matter?