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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/

Previous thread: >>16299074

This thread is for the discussion and learning of Japanese with raw otaku media.
If you have no interest in otaku media we recommend heading over to /int/'s 日本語スレッド.
Please use sage. This isn't /a/ or /int/, you don't have to keep bumping the thread all the time for no reason.

Let's have a nice thread by reporting and ignoring off-topic posts.
がんばってゆっくりしていってね!!!

>> No.16313269 [DELETED] 

すいません

>>>/int/69017460

>> No.16313273

Happy holidays /djt/. Hope your reps go extra well today!

>> No.16313275
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16313275

そりゃ早かったな。

よくやったね、あのんくんよ!

>> No.16313304

>>16313273
Yesterday I had my worst score to date, 44 missed cards, or 19% (generally it's 10%).

Do not do your reps while struggling to keep awake!

>> No.16313356

>>16313304
Unless you procrastinated them until right before you go to sleep. In that case you have no choice but to do them

>> No.16313401

Reminder, your thread is here.

>>>/int/69017173

>>>/int/69017173

>>>/int/69017173

>> No.16313409

>>16313401
Nah, sorry.

>> No.16313494

>>16313401
Its also here
>>16313259

>> No.16313515

>>16313269
>>16313401
>>16313494









>> No.16313622

>>16311976
gen.lib.rus.ec

>> No.16313629

メリークリスマス!

>> No.16313634

>>16313629
もうクリスマスじゃないけど

>> No.16313664

>>16313622
Does that have any Japanese books? I couldn't find any.

>> No.16313671

>>16313629
リクマイアッス

>> No.16313725

What do younger siblings usually call their older siblings?
おにい/おねえちゃん、あに/あね or by their name with or without honorific?
What are the differences?

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16313806

>>16313725
恋人

>> No.16313819

What would be the best way to say "Would you like me to take your photo?"?
I'd just like to know because I'd rather not seem anyone fidgeting cluelessly over a photo if I end up going to Japan again. I would assume "写真を撮ってあげますか" to be it, but I'm not sure.
Also, is there any better way to ask where a place is? My friend told me everyone says "どこですか", but is there something just as/more commonly used with a closer meaning to "Do you know where" something is?

>> No.16313858

こどもみんな水たまりが好きだな ーt.おとうちゃん
大人、大きいから、海が好き
ーt.よつば

>> No.16313861

>>16313819
写真を取ってもいいですか? Is good enough

>> No.16313878

>>16313806
俺のちんこが硬くて。。。

>> No.16313890

>>16313861
英語が出来ないか日本語ができないかどっちかな
多分英語が出来ない日本人だと思う
彼が言いたいことをわかってないからそんなことを言う

>> No.16313923

>>16313819
What is this situation where you have to ask a Japanese person if they want you to take a photo for them?

>> No.16313926

>>16313890
what are you even trying to say

>> No.16313930

>>16313926
I gathered he was insulting my Japanese or something.

>> No.16313939

>>16313923
I was on some island in Hiroshima and there were two girls trying to take a photo. It took them about five minutes before they gestured with their camera asking if I could take it for them.
This is only one example, though.

>> No.16313986

>>16313819
I'd probably use あげましょうか instead, otherwise seems fine

>> No.16313995

>>16313819
>Also, is there any better way to ask where a place is? My friend told me everyone says "どこですか", but is there something just as/more commonly used with a closer meaning to "Do you know where" something is?
I would say something like 「すみません、placeはどこにありますか知っていますか?」

>> No.16314005

My ten of dreams turned inside out.
Happy times turn to dust
My words frozen in a machine

knock knock knock, embrace the silence
punching the wall
I had something important to say but it never came out
knock knock knock, embrace the dark starry sky
lost in the void of space
Welcome to loneliness.

In our town sunk to the bottom of the sea,
your smile fades away in the trees.
I can speak only of regret
like a game, destroy the light

knock knock knock, dreams of heartbreak overflow
my mouth, my ears my eyes are overflowing
putting endless anime into my brain
knockn kocnk kocnk because of the lack of gravity
floating like a wooden doll
welcome to loneliness

I have to give credit for people who translate songs, it makes no sense in english.

>> No.16314010

>>16314005
It makes no sense in Japanese either.

>> No.16314014

>>16314010
But it sounds pretty

>> No.16314022

>>16314010
>>16314014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ei2izPLpHc&index=2&list=RDKCgr3dj5mqY

>> No.16314187

i was gonna ask if you terds learned japanese yet but then i saw this >>16313890

youtu.be/7B3k5sTX0CE#t=230

>> No.16314197

I've been gone for a bit, why the fuck are these threads not on /a/ anymore?

>> No.16314200

>>16314197
i /a/ssassinated them it was 超簡単

>> No.16314203

>>16314197
http://djtguide.neocities.org/
Bottom of the page. If you have anything to say about it, please post on the meta board: >>>/qa/

>> No.16314214

>>16314203
christ the /a/ mods went full retard

>> No.16314263

Please transcribe 7:45 to 8:08

https://youtu.be/EFfYJAIl4Yk?t=465

9:10 - 9:20
https://youtu.be/EFfYJAIl4Yk?t=550
ぜんしんぼ??


Thanks

>> No.16314290

>>16314263
ステージの上だもう後戻りはできない
あれさくらさんの妹でしょう
そうよ、バカでしかたないのよあいつ
漏れそう、どうしよう、今からステージ降りて行こうかな、漏らすよりいいよね
あのバカ、なに一人だけきょろきょろしてんのよ、薄笑いまで浮かべて

>> No.16314294

>>16314263
全身膀胱人間

>> No.16314295

>>16314263
Not your personal transcriber

>> No.16314301

>>16314263
全身後光人間であった

>> No.16314311

>>16314263
中出しの喜び

>> No.16314313

>>16314263
I actually thought it was 全身母后.

>> No.16314408 [DELETED] 

いつも性欲に強さに圧倒される
相変わらず、今日も一日悲しいパンダしか何もしなかった
どうしようかなあ

>> No.16314412

いつも性欲の強さに圧倒される
相変わらず、今日も一日悲しいパンダしか何もしなかった
どうしようかなあ

>> No.16314413

>>16314412
シコって悩み事を蹴っ飛ばす

>> No.16314416

>>16314412
what are you even doing past the one hour mark

>> No.16314426

>>16314413
まあね
仕方のないことかもしれん
>>16314416
Obviously it's not like I have 10 wanks per day, but I spend hours and hours edging and reading stuff. I mean, technically it's reading practice, but I feel like I've already learned enough synonyms for genitals.

>> No.16314433

Is memrise any good? I have a mining deck right now but I stopped studying Japanese for a year and would like a refresher course. Seeing stupid basic words that I forget is humiliating. I literally forgot what 金星 meant today.

>> No.16314438

>>16314433
Use Anki instead. It's more flexible and doesn't require an internet connection or premium subscription bullshit.

>> No.16314440

>>16314263
you made me remember to ask this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS4rfjVNKYA
what is the faggot saying at 24:05-24:09

i can't even comprehend anything he says

>> No.16314441

>>16314426
何でエロゲよりエロ漫画のほうが好き?
エロゲの画像のほうがいいのに
エロゲにBGMや声優の声があるのに

>> No.16314443

年末が近づくとスーパーのお客さんもすごく増えますが、今の職場は24時間営業で、しかも赤字続き。時給が安いのでアルバイトも先月でほとんどが辞め、夜のシフトは経営者である店長と私の2人だけ。
 実は店長の奥様が脳梗塞を起こし入院中で「夢の経営者になれたと思ったら…。こんなはずじゃなかった」と意気消沈。
 だから、彼を支えてあげたくなったの。そんな深夜、急に客足が途切れ、「少し休もうか」と言われました。
 束の間の休憩は狭い事務室でコーヒータイム。私は店長に好意を持っているので、2人きりになれる幸せを噛みしめていました。

 そんな中、ポツリと「妻の入院中、君がいなければ俺は首を吊っていた。感謝しているよ」とお礼を言われ、目がウルウルしちゃいました。
 「お礼に舐めさせてくれないか? クンニだけは自信あるから」
 彼は本気でした。だけど、お互い既婚者なので「して」なんて言えません。
 「今日破棄するお弁当と同じで、私はもう賞味期限切れです。それでもいいの?」
 「何言ってる! まだまだ十分新鮮だから」
 有無を言わせず、私のジーンズを下げ、畳んだ段ボール箱に私を押し倒しました。「ダメよ、ダメ」と抵抗しながらも、クンニされたい気持ちが上回ります。

 迷っているうちにパンツを脱がされ、小陰唇を軽く吸いながらゆっくりと舌で膣口を舐められます。
 「変になっちゃう!」
 思わず大声で叫んでいました。早く大きくなった真珠を舌で転がしてほしいのに、ジラすつもりなのかブラの中に手を入れ、両乳首をいじります。
 「ああん、許してください。乳首でイッちゃう~っ」
 あまりの快感にヒクヒクしながら昇天しちゃいました。全身の力が抜けていると、徐々にクリトリスを皮ごと舐め上げ、次に勃起した真珠を吸いながら熱い息を吹きかけます。
 全身が激しく痙攣し、何度も膣が収縮を繰り返し、目の前が真っ白になって深い快楽に達しました。

 起き上がれないほどグッタリしていると、お客を知らせるチャイムが…。
 「この続きは新年だ。そのときは太いのを奥まで挿れてあげる」
 ウインクしながら、股間を膨らませてレジに戻る店長と一緒に立ち上がろうとしましたが、腰が抜けて無理でした。

>> No.16314444

>>16314438
Should I get a jlpt deck in addition to my mining deck? What would you recommend?

>> No.16314448

>>16314441
エロゲのかかる時ってすっごく永いから

>> No.16314453

私、残業ばかりしていたせいか、疲れが取れなくなって体がだるいんです。彼氏と会うもの面倒になり、電話が毎日かかってきても無視…。
 あまりにしつこいから、一度だけ出たら、「もしかして俺と別れるつもり?」って聞かれ、「はいはい、別れます」と怒鳴って投げやりに電話を切ったの。

 すると数日後の深夜、合い鍵を使っていきなり彼が部屋へ侵入してきました。信じられないことに、たくさんのダイナマイトを体に巻き付けていて…。
 「俺は君のためなら死ねる。あの世でまた会おう!」
 彼がベルトにぶら下がったタイマーのスイッチを押すと、ピーッと電子音が鳴り響きました。
 「あと3分で爆発する。残りの人生、イキまくろうな」
 どんなに彼を引き離そうとしても、男の力にかなうはずもありません。パジャマもパンツも破られ、みるみる素っ裸にされました。

 剥き出しになった胸を痛いほど揉まれまくり、助けを呼ぼうとしても、口にガムテープを貼られ、「ングーッ」と鼻を鳴らすことしかできません。
 こんな局限状態の中で、硬いペニスがねじ込まれてきます。爆発の前にまずは彼が暴発しました。体の中に温かいものがドクドクと流れてきたんです。
 「ああっ、もう死ぬんだ」
 そう思ったら涙が出ました。泣きながらも、最期の快感を冷静に味わっている自分がいて…。
 挿入の後はクンニされてクリトリスを痛いほど吸われます。怖いのに感じてしまい、たくさんエッチ汁が湧き出てきて、さすがに自己嫌悪に陥りました。

 すると彼は「ダイナマイトなわけねえじゃん。精巧に作られたレプリカだよ。ドッキリセックスどうよ?」と言ってニヤニヤ。
 「えっ、ひどいじゃない」
 安堵感から、ジョーッとオシッコを漏らしちゃった。この日から、信じられないけど、何となく彼への愛が深まりました。
 これって恐怖の後、出会った男に恋してしまう「吊り橋効果」っていう心理状態らしいのです。
 ドキドキしたのが吊り橋を渡る恐怖なのか、渡り切った後に出会った男性が好きでそうなったのか、混同するんだって。
 とにかく、一瞬でも死の恐怖を味わった後は、仕事ごときで五月病になっていたのがバカらしくなり、元気を取り戻しました。

>> No.16314488

私、はゲイ

>> No.16314490

>>16314448
>今日も一日悲しいパンダしか何もしなかった
時間があるじゃないか

>> No.16314592

>>16314440
It sounds to me like 「いいえ、○○○○○○○科に発注していたのは空戦魔導士科長ですよ」.

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16314654

よろしくね!

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>> No.16314824

>>16314654
>what are we going to do in the office today?!?
>wah!!!

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16314990

おはようおにいちゃん

きょうもがんばった?

がくなりがたしだよ

>> No.16315080

>>16313725
Taketatsu Ayana and Numakura Manami discuss that here:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18698112
starting from 24:30

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18819033
from 24:35

summary:
Ayana keeps talking ABOUT her onii-chan all the time, but calling him that to his face is maximally embarrassing and only happens in anime

>> No.16315122

>>16314990
ゴミ出しのようなタスク学成り難しオマエはカキコするべからず

>> No.16315232

What does がむだにかわいくて腹立つ
あると思います! mean?

>> No.16315468

>broke over 5000 mature cards in Anki, over half of them are mined
Feels good. Only 15k more until I can read somewhat fluently and drop Anki.

>> No.16315534

>>16315468
Thanks for the daily progress update. Do you have something I could subscribe to for regular updates?

>> No.16315561

>>16315534
>Do you have something I could subscribe to for regular updates?

Yes, the Daily Japanese Thread on /jp/

>> No.16315614
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16315614

what's this?

>> No.16315720

>>16315614
So that's how lesbian sex works?

>> No.16315780
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>>16314824
They're already working her hard it seems.

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>>16315232
Xがむだにかわいくて腹立つ、
あると思います!
Do you have an experience that you get angry at X because X is too cute for no reason ?

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16315907

>>16315232
>>16315865
Do you have an experience that you got angry at X because X was too cute for no reason ?
i think i have such an experience.

むだに for no reason
かわいくて腹立つ get angry at X because X is too cute
あると i have such an experience.
思います i think

>> No.16316054

>>16313622
>gen.lib.rus.ec
afaik this mostly for academic text.

>> No.16316066
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16316066

>あまりハメはずすなよ
I can't for the life of me figure out what that is supposed to mean. Is ハメ referring to their homework obligations? I've never seen it used like that. I thought it was used to refer to a situation which you suddenly find yourself stuck with, not something like homework.

>> No.16316088

>>16316066
>ハメ
>(n,vs,vulg) fucking; screwing; having sex

>> No.16316094

>>16316088
Yeah, I don't think that's the case, that's a middle school class. In fact, I just found out 羽目をはずす is actually an expression. It just didn't occur to me to include the particle when looking it up.

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>>16316094
>Yeah, I don't think that's the case, that's a middle school class.
わかいね、やれやれ

>> No.16316118

>>>16311976
>>16313664

these are usually the sites I use
http://bookzz.org/
http://en.bookfi.org
http://www.freebookspot.es/
http://www.ebook3000.com/
http://scienceengineering.library.scilibgen.org
http://documents.mx/
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/
http://libgen.io/
http://elibgen.org/
http://rutracker.org/
https://www.academia.edu/
https://www.scribd.com/

Usually they're on scribd, fortunately there are so many ways of bypassing scribd's defenses.

>> No.16316123

>>16316117
中学生はそんなハレンチなことしないよ
先生がそう言ったから絶対間違いない

>> No.16316127

>>16316118
Anon this is /djt/, the question was obviously referring to Japanese books.

>> No.16316178

About to start Flyable Heart. Is there an advised route order ?

>> No.16316179

>>16316178
Not like it matters because you're gonna fall asleep within 20 minutes because you were dumb enough to take those beginner charts seriously.

>> No.16316182

>>16316178
Pick the best girl.

They're all moe blobs. So it's lose-lose.

>> No.16316187

>>16316178
Do Mayuri's last (before Suzuno's). Also bear in mind that the common route is pretty weak compared to the heroine routes.

>> No.16316209

>>16316179
>>16316182
I was able to finish はなひら!, moeblobs don't scare me.
But I'll probably play two games. I'll switch from one to the other when/if I get bored.

>>16316187
Thank you.

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16316248

>tfw you skipped learning verb conjugation
>despite knowing tae kim and up to n4 vocab i can't read shit because the words are all in their various conjugations
Sort of makes me want to take a break from the language. I've been on-and-off learning for around 3 years now. There's just too many rules to remember when it comes to conjugation. Think I'll stick to default dictionary vocab for now.

>> No.16316337

>>16316248
You're just a fucking retard, bro. I've barely touched grammar structures because I wanted to just do it all by 勘, and I've had no trouble reading. The issue is you being a lazy cunt who only learned N4 vocab in 3 years when it should have taken you 3 months.

>> No.16316362

>>16316248
くいてぐいでうつるってぬむぶんですして
Congratulations, you now know 90% of all the conjugation you will ever need

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>>16316209
Ignore those idiots, Flyable Heart is a masterpiece. They just dropped it 5 minutes in because it was too hard for them and have to justify it somehow.

Anyway there's no plot-enforced recommended reading order, the routes are sufficiently disjoint you can read them in whatever order you choose, so what's important is what you'll enjoy the most. Personally I think this means Yui route first because it's the best.

>> No.16316381

>>16316373
One day you'll read your second VN. One day.

>> No.16316389

>>16316381
Maybe once you learn Japanese you should go back to it, I'm sure you can spend the 5 minutes to read past the bit you got stuck on last time.

>> No.16316394

>>16316373
Is there a "repeat sound" hotkey ? Dad's talking kinda fast, and going back in the log fucks up ITHVNR.

>> No.16316408

>>16316248
If you hover over a word with Rikaisama it will tell you the conjugation. After doing that for a month you'll know them all.

>> No.16316432

>>16316394
No, going back into the log is the only way. 頑張って

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16316449

面白いことを教えてあげる



>> No.16316451

>>16316373
This guy has aggressively shit taste and him spamming Flyable Heart here is the only reason it became a meme recommendation. Don't expect too much. It's nice for beginners due to the low vocab and occasionally compelling but it's certainly not a masterpiece.

>> No.16316453

What does rikaisama offer over rikaichan if you don't use the anki import feature?

>> No.16316458

>>16316453
http://rikaisama.sourceforge.net/#features

>> No.16316601

Can someone give me a simplified way of understanding わけ. Is it often translated as 'so it means...'?

>> No.16316604

>>16316248
>despite knowing tae kim
What do you mean? Tae Kim teaches verb conjugation, you poopoo brain.

>> No.16316612

>>16316449

>> No.16316614

>>16316248
I'm in a similar position (learning on and off since 2014) because of that my Japanese is shit. But I never had problems with conjugation. When I started reading I had to double check it often, but now it's second nature. Grammar is least of my worries. The only problem I have now is vocab. Just keep reading and it should click.

>> No.16316617

>>16316601
It's used when you arrive at a conclusion. Stop using english expressions to define japanese words.

>> No.16316623

>>16316449
Second one is clearly green, fucking japs learn your colors

>> No.16316648

>>16316394
Use the second HTML file in the pastebin. There's an button in the top right to delete the last line.

>> No.16316671

>>16316623

>> No.16316719

>>16316648
It's pretty nice, thank you.

>> No.16316734
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16316734

I don't understand what he typed. ああいさしたちつてらりる? What's the kanji here?

>> No.16316739

Did anyone eve bother with audio lessons? Can't find anything bout them in the guide. I really could use something to listen to during work/workout.

>> No.16316741

>>16316739
>during work
>>>/int/

>> No.16316746

>>16316739
You could use jdownloader to get the audio from nihongonomori videos.

>> No.16316752

>>16316734
It's a cell phone keyboard, he typed 愛してる.

>> No.16316755

>>16316746
This sounds like a horrible idea.

Why not just pirate drama CDs?

>> No.16316759

>>16316648
You could also just turn Clipboard Inserter off for a second when you open the log.

>> No.16316822

>>16316734
A I U E O
SA SHI SU SE SO
TA CHI TSU TE TO
RA RI RU RE RO

...back to hiragana lessons with you, I guess.

>>16316741
>>>/r9k/

>> No.16316835

>>16316822
/jp/ - NEET and Hikikomori discussion

>> No.16316837

>>16316822
Your reading comprehension is complete trash. Delete this now.

>> No.16316901
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16316901

Is that supposed to be a ン?

>> No.16316908

>>16316901
What else could it be?

>> No.16316911

>>16316901
Are you reading Mahou Tsuaki no Yome?

>> No.16316916

>>16316908
I don't know, I'm bad fonts. I suppose it's just how they speak.

>>16316911
Yes.

>> No.16316925

>>16316916
ン is aligned at the left
ソ is aligned at the top

this is true for all fonts

>> No.16316938

>>16316925
What exactly do you mean by left and top?

>> No.16316939

>>16316925

Oh yea well I just made a font that's the opposite so you're actually wrong.

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>>16316925
I know about the differences between so n and shi tsu, I just thought perhaps it was some other character since the font was a bit odd.

>>16316938

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>>16316939
fixing my sentence

>this is true for all Japanese fonts



>>16316938
see picture

>> No.16316965

Did you ever get weird vusial associations when trying to learn hiragana/katakana/kanji?

I've been studying for 2 weeks and so far the weirdest one for me was は. Remembered it instantly because it looks like a Lamia laughing (ha-ha-ha) at a guy with an erection,

>> No.16316972

>>16316963

Who are you quoting?

>> No.16316978

>>16316972
myself, speaking the correct sentence out aloud

>> No.16316979

>>16316972
How retarded are you?

>> No.16316988

>>16316916
Are your scans good? The ones I found were too small for my liking.

>> No.16316989

>>16316972
Oh how I hate this meme.

>> No.16316991

>>16316978

But you never said that.

>> No.16317045

>>16316965
何か

>> No.16317068

>>16316965
Not really that weird but む always looked like a musical note to me, hence MUsic

>> No.16317233
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16317233

>>16316988
For vol. 1, nope (822x1198), and I remember dropping the manga for the same reason back then (I believe it was the first manga I had tried to read when I was still a beginner). Now I can read it pretty much fluently so it doesn't bother me as much though. Vol. 2, 4, 5 & 6 are all in good quality but 3 is the same as 1 sadly.

I'm transcribing it as I'm reading, I'm planning on doing it for the whole volume, so unless someone shares good scans until then I might share it with DJT.
Before I get asked why : I'm not sure, I thought I'd try doing something like that at least once for experience's sake.

>> No.16317284

Fuck I just want to practice my listening comprehension but nothing's compelling

>> No.16317288

>>16317233
I could still understand it but the small text hurt my eyes. And if there was a word I didn't know it just made it more problematic.

Feel free to share it when you're done with it. I'd like to refer to it at least while I only have access to shitty scans.

>> No.16317293

>>16317284
Listening doesn't need to be compelling, you can just put it on while you're doing something else

>> No.16317296

>>16317284
What about anime? You like anime, don't you?

>> No.16317305

>>16317293
Like what though? I can't think of anything that I would like enough to have on but not care enough that it doesn't matter when I'm missing the vast majority of what's being said

>>16317296
I do like anime but for some reason I just can't bring myself around to listening to it raw, it's like my brain rejects it every time I try

>> No.16317309

>>16317305
Subbed anime is still listening practice if you pay attention to the audio.

>> No.16317312

>>16317288
Sure, I'm going to bed now but I'll probably be done tomorrow or something.

>>16317305
You don't need to watch them raw. If anything unless you have Japanese subs available watching with English subs is most likely more profitable as long as you don't stare at them.

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>>16317312
>I'll probably be done tomorrow or something.
Cool. Now I'll be inspired to pick it up again. I dropped it around when the fairies were talking because the font annoyed the hell out of me.

>> No.16317355

>>16317309
This. It can sometimes even be helpful to compare your own interpretation with the subtitles on the fly, so long as you treat it as a "hint" rather than an "authority".

>> No.16317363

>>16317309
Problem is that he's probably a normie subhuman who watches anime to relax and doesn't have the energy to listen actively after slaving at his job all day.

>> No.16317392

>>16317363
>normie
Hmmmmmm.
Regardless, it's not like relaxing and focused listening are mutually exclusive.

>> No.16317502

>>16317305
I just listen to NHKniyoukoso and Lain, which I have seen many times before. I love them so it's enjoyable.

>> No.16317782
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16317782

What does DJT think about this guys method?

>> No.16317794

>>16317782
tl;dr but judging by the file name "immersion" it's the exact same method everyone else here is using and is being advocated in the guide, the fuck are you asking?

>> No.16317813

>>16317794
>didn't even read
> "the fuck are you asking"
Anon if you can't be arsed to read 10 sentences why reply in the first place?

>> No.16317829

>>16317782
>Using J-J dictionaries even if you can't understand them properly yet
Pure bullshit.

>> No.16317834

>>16317813
because i like bullying dumb crossboarders. just read the guide

>> No.16317872

>>16317829
He is talking about dictionaries for children though, they usually explain words in a 4-5 word sentence written with the most basic vocabulary you can imagine.

>> No.16317888

>>16317872
Any such dictionary is going to have little to no accuracy benefit over a J-E dictionary. Dictionaries are also extremely uncompelling content so you really won't learn anything from reading dictionary definitions, especially ungrammatical ones, that you wouldn't learn with a similarly uncompelling grammar book.

>> No.16317927

Memrise sucks.

>> No.16317955

>>16317927
That's why no one here recommends it.

>> No.16317958

>>16317927
>>16317955

It doesn't.

>> No.16317976

>>16317888
The thought behind it is to completely get rid of English and go full Japanese mode, but I have to admit what you say makes sense.

I guess just reading novels is still more effective but I have yet to find something that interests me enough to suffer through it with my shitty reading skills.

>> No.16317980

>>16317976
Why are you learning Japanese if you don't like anything in it?

>> No.16317990

>>16317958
It's just anki except it takes 15-20% more time to do reviews because of all the stupid animations and special effects. Why the fuck would any serious learner use memrise?

>> No.16317997

>>16317958
Which "class" would you recommend? I'm doing jlptn5 right now.

>> No.16318009

>>16317980
>Why are you learning Japanese if you don't like anything in it?
I usually love pretty much everything Japanese but hanahira and the like bore me to death.
I'm looking for something easy and interesting to read but I couldn't find anything yet.

What I really really want to read is unfortunately not hookable.

>> No.16318021

>>16318009
>hanahira
People read that shit?

>> No.16318049

>>16318009
What you write here is extremely contradictory. You should just stop being a baby and stop thinking of a language in "easy" and "hard". Almost nothing out there is difficult, it's all written in normal Japanese for adults. So you can either stick with dumbed down children's books and Hanahira, or you can actually consume compelling content and learn the language.

>> No.16318072

>>16318021
I read it, it's not as bad as he says. Just slow (like most SOLs) and gay

>> No.16318109

Just watched 千と千尋の神隠し raw for the first time

Feels good man

Here's the words I mined

えんがちょ - ハイカラ - やしない - 蓬
硫黄 - おんも - 言いなり - 新米 - ねんね
大尽 - お成り - 袴 - 穀潰し - お座敷 - 祠

>> No.16318136
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16318136

j-cat is a joke

>> No.16318139

>>16318136
Why are you posting the tests of 3 different people?

>> No.16318143

>>16318139
those are all one person

>> No.16318152

>>16318136
You're just bad

>> No.16318154

>>16318136
Why are you here if you can't even get 200 on J-CAT after over a year of study? Seriously, close your browser and go read something

>> No.16318159

>>16318152
yeah
>>16318154
I didn't study at all between the first two screenshots

>> No.16318164

>>16318136
Your studying is a joke

>> No.16318170

>>16318164
I can read the only manga I care about to be fair, I just like posting bad memes

post stats and jcats

>> No.16318175

Should I do core2k if I haven't studied in a year?

>> No.16318178

>>16318159
>I didn't study at all between the first two screenshots
Stop attention whoring if you're not even learning japanese. Actually, just go to /int/ because that's probably where you came from.

>> No.16318179

>>16318109
Really surprised that you had so few unknown words but apparently never encountered やしない or 座敷 before.

>> No.16318183

>>16318178
>Stop attention whoring if you're not even learning japanese.
but I'm learning japanese, like right now
and it's not attention whoring, it's just posting
>Actually, just go to /int/ because that's probably where you came from.
please get out of /jp/ /a/non

>> No.16318185

>>16318159
>I didn't study at all between the first two screenshots
Yeah and you're not studying right now either.

>> No.16318187

>>16318185
I am

>> No.16318191

>>16318170
>I can read the only manga I care about
To-Love Ru?

>> No.16318200

>>16318191
no, welcome to the nhk

>> No.16318204

>>16318179
I might have done it's just it's been long enough since I last saw them that I'd completely forgotten them

>> No.16318215

>>16318183
>but I'm learning japanese, like right now
This sad excuse of shitposting isn't "learning japanese".
>please get out of /jp/ /a/non
No. Go back to /int/, that's exactly where this kind of posting belongs.

>> No.16318216

>>16318136
lol I got 201 on the JCAT after like 6 months of studying. You belong on /r/learnjapanese with the rest of the no-hopers.

>> No.16318217

How long does it take to finish the J-CAT?

>> No.16318218

>>16318175
Also which of the core2k decks in the CoR are better?

>> No.16318224

>>16318215
>This sad excuse of shitposting isn't "learning japanese".
my manga is in my lap
>No. Go back to /int/, that's exactly where this kind of posting belongs.
I didn't know /int/ was the home of autistic neet arguments
>>16318216
the overwhelming majority of /r/learnjapanese knows even less japanese than me anon

>> No.16318226

>>16318217
About an hour

>> No.16318227

>>16318217
It took me around 30 minutes, but I'm only 3 months in.

>> No.16318230

>>16318216
Most people here flunk basic N5 test questions. I don't think you're one to talk.

>> No.16318235

>>16318218
The one in the Anki start-up guide.

>> No.16318237

>>16318216
I got 250 after doing core2k

>> No.16318238

>>16318237
I aced it after watching namasensei

>> No.16318247

>>16318238
Did namasensei teach you to lie too?

>> No.16318250

>>16318191
To-Love Ru supposedly doesn't have furigana, so that's not really a good attempt at burning him.

>> No.16318254

>>16318238
Why does he call himself that, does he not use condoms or something?

>> No.16318258

Reminder that being able to read with a mouseover dictionary is not the same as being able to read generally speaking.

>> No.16318261

>>16318250
Pretty sure it does.

>> No.16318266

>>16318250
It was just the first shit manga people with shit taste like to read that came to mind

>> No.16318267

>>16318261
Then the CoR has it marked wrong.

>> No.16318270

>>16318230
Go back to plebbit and post more some romaji.

>>16318237
Obviously you did more than just core2k.

>> No.16318272

>>16318254
Really makes you think

>> No.16318275

>>16318164
I'm pretty sure having your grammar skill, the one part of language that you cannot lose easily, deteriorate by 50% over the course of six months after being stable, is not something that happens outside of brain damage.

>> No.16318284

>>16318275
He is just shit at Japanese and got lucky on grammar questions the first two times

>> No.16318289

>>16318284
That's as likely as you getting hit by a truck within the coming week.

>> No.16318311

>>16318289
Surely, it wouldn't be difficult to get 2-3 questions right by guess when it's all multiple choice questions.

>> No.16318318

>>16318311
That's not how J-Cat works.
http://www.j-cat.org/html/en/pages/interpret.html

>J-CAT is unlike other tests that assess based on unadjusted scores. J-CAT takes the difficulty of the item (question) into consideration, and assesses the examinee's ability based on the probability theory.
In other words, if you select the "bogus" answer (not the "deceptively wrong" answer) on a question that it thought was your level, it'll know that you definitely don't belong to that level.

>> No.16318383

>haven't touched my core6k deck in a year
>only had done 2k words
>1650 reps piled up
Should I bother continuing from here or start over?

>> No.16318384

>>16318383
Why would you start over?

>> No.16318392

>>16318383
Try reading some simple manga, children's books and NHK News Easy, if it's too hard start over. And don't use the quote function if you're not quoting anyone.

>> No.16318396

>>16318383
Drop it completely and make a mining deck.

>> No.16318477

>>16318396
If I'm already reading but never did core, is it okay to just do a mining deck?

>> No.16318481

>>16318477
It's always okay to just do a mining deck.

>> No.16318486

>>16318477
Just like, learn words man

>> No.16318487

>>16318477
Honestly, if you already know the basic japanese words, there's no need to do core. I did core until around 500 words then deleted it and started mining.

>> No.16318606

http://nipponnostalgie.hatenablog.com/entry/20101206/1291638692

というか私、この店の存在を知って居ても立ってもいられなくなりました。名前、外観、そして吉原という立地といい、好き者の私には全てにおいてドンピシャな店なのです。

..what? the second sentence i get (its appealing) but the first?

>> No.16318623

>>16318606
When he/she learned of the shop's existence, he/she couldn't contain herself.

>> No.16318687

>>16318623
>居ても立ってもいられなくなりました
goddamnit why dident i just google the phrase its like the first result

>> No.16318692

>>16318687
That's a mouthful.

>> No.16318759

>>16318487
I wouldn't say I know them anymore, I learned to the point of being able to read ika musume level of difficulty without oa idctionary about a year ago, and then didin't study for a year. So they're in my brain somewhere but I don't really know them very well anymore.

>> No.16318836

>ankidrones

Can't believe so many people are still falling for the anki meme. You know it started as a joke, right? Even Steve says flashcards are a waste of time.

>> No.16318849

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0rZCb0kgBab

>> No.16318863

>>16318836
Oh ok, just uninstalled Anki and deleted my Ankiweb backup. Thanks for letting me know.

>> No.16318867

>>16318849
おちんちんをあたしのせまいしょうじょまんこにいれてくだいさ

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I didn't realize our great leader supported you guys. M-maybe we shouldn't have kicked you out after all.

>> No.16319098

Does anyone know how to actually write "THE PLEASURE OF BEING CUMMED INSIDE" in Japanese?

>> No.16319115

>>16319098

中出しの娯楽

>> No.16319120

>>16319098
中出しの苦しみ

>> No.16319166

>>16319098
そんないやらしいことを言えば駄目だよお兄ちゃん

>> No.16319179

>>16319098
ざ ぷれしゃー おぶ べぃんぐ かんだ いんさいど

>> No.16319193
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16319193

Please help with this impossible to OCR kanjis from pic related.

Hope this guy actually releases something this year.


2016年12月27日(火)13:00 

をやっておけば良かった!orz と、事後に…。
ペン入れがギリギリ過ぎて基本トーンを上げてもらうのも入稿直前だったため
最終仕上げ周り本当に時間が無かったんですが
まともな判断力が残っていれば、いくらでも対応はできましたね…(´△`;)

生み出した腐海もほどほどに片付いたので、これからサンプル準備します。

>> No.16319212

I installed windows 10 after using Linux for years and holy shit are the Japanese fonts ugly! It's almost unreadable.

>> No.16319219

Hey just started with hiragana. Using Heisig Method - Remembering the Kana. I'm following the guidelines or "lessons" in the order that they're given and I've got three questions about it:

1) The author says that the learning order isn't the dictionary learning order and that the order that he proposes - the one where I'm going back and forth like a choose-your-own-adventure book - it supposed to help me remember better or learn faster... or something. Problem is that his cutesy texts to attach random as fuck meanings to help remember are 100% useless to me since my brain doesn't work that way. Am I going to get fucked down the line if I don't memorize it his way or can I just learn it my way and not worry about it down the road?

2) Is the actual learning order important? Since the author says the way he wrote the book is out of order, will I just have to relearn the order eventually? AKA am I better off doing it "alphabetically" right off the bat so I don't waste time?

3) Does this book contain errors? I'm on lesson 4 right now and he has a little test to see if I can remember some of the syllables:

よいま
リなね
たに

Problem is, as far as I can tell, he has not covered ねyet and I'm wondering if I skipped a step or if the author is just dumb? I tend to skip over stuff when I read/learn, so I want to make sure I'm not fucking up so I don't have problems down the line.

>> No.16319231
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16319231

>>16319219
You could have learnt half of the hiragana with this picture while you were typing out that post

Just go through them all in a couple days, literally easiest part of learning Japanese and takes less than a week to get a good handle on

>> No.16319238

>>16319219
I can't offer any advice on Remembering the Kana's contents, but honestly, I think you're wasting your time. If you just bruteforce it through realkana (or whatever people use nowadays) and writing it down a bunch of times, you can get kana out of the way in a day or two. No need for mnemonics or anything like that because you will see kana literally all the fucking time. It's pretty much impossible to forget them.

>> No.16319242

>>16319212
What font settings do you guys use in Chrome to fix it? Or do you just leave it as default?

>> No.16319251

>>16319231
>>16319238
Ok so just learn the keystrokes and brute force? Been at it for 1½ hours and that book's method seemed useless, or at least sketchy. Thanks.

Also, didn't these threads use to be on /a/?

>> No.16319253

>>16319212
use meiryo font.

>> No.16319266

>>16319253
Thank you.

>> No.16319268

>>16319251
Yeah. What I did was: "learn" the characters from a resource that groups them by gojuuon (look it up) rows (I used a Wikibooks page but there are tons of sites that offer the exact same thing), 5 or 10 at a time, and then test myself with realkana (looks like nowadays people use kanateacher instead).
>Also, didn't these threads use to be on /a/?
Yes, see the notice at the bottom of this page: http://djtguide.neocities.org/ Please don't discuss it here, though.

>> No.16319347

Do you have trouble reading the kanji? It's pretty simple kanji. Hopefully you can read the hiragana
全体
基本
移植
乗せ

>> No.16319598
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16319598

おはよう

おにいちゃん

おにいちゃんは

どうしておにいちゃん

>> No.16319612
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16319612

アスカ、我々のは料理の本を勉強するは難しい。
"Asuka is having a hard time studying our cookbook."
Right? I don't have any friends. I'm a lonely r9k robot and so I have to rely on Google Translate for grammatical practice. Thought I'd take this one to you guys because Goog's saying it's grammatically wrong. Don't see how though. It's directly stated that the book belongs to the group, and that Asuka is finding studying the book to be difficult.

アスカ(Maybe ha should be here instead of separated by just a comma?)、我々のは(Topic/Poss.)料理の本(Cookbook, noun)を勉強する(Action, studying the book present tense.)は難しい(Maybe a ha shouldn't go here?)。

inb4 im insulted for having such bad grammar

>> No.16319624

>>16319612
>あすかは教材のレシピ本ですっごく勉強している

ourは訳すの難しいので意訳したよ

>> No.16319644

Transcribe please

https://youtu.be/-F1urWYgKaA?t=698
11:38-11:42
こんなこと。。???

>> No.16319648

>>16319612
>It's directly stated that the book belongs to the group
That's wrong. 我々のは means 我々の[omitted] is the topic. I would assume the omitted part is アスカ, as in "Our Asuka/Asuka, a member of our group".
>I don't have any friends. I'm a lonely r9k robot and so I have to rely on Google Translate for grammatical practice.
This is irrelevant to your question and the thread. Please keep that kind of information about you and your 4chan browsing habits to yourself, unless it actually matters (it never does.)

>> No.16319659
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>>16319644
がんばれおにいちゃん

>こーんなことなら、昨夜(ゆうべ)宿題やるんじゃなかったよ。

>> No.16319981

>reading is the best way to learn but setting text hooking and mining is the pain the ass

djt is holding me back desu

>> No.16319989

>>16319981
It isn't though. You posting here and procrastinating is holding you back.

>> No.16319998

>>16319981
Use Chiitrans Lite, it works with pretty much everything and you can turn on furigana for maximum lazy mode. My only issue with it is how janky the hover info is, but I've found that in every fucking text hooker, because none of these cunts know how to program. If I move my mouse off the word, the box should disappear, retards. It doesn't need to stay there and block my view of the rest of the sentence.

For mining, I just copy out new words into a quick reply window, and then go through them all while mashing R at the end of my session.

>> No.16320020

>>16319981
Don't use a text hooker then. That's just a cheap and nasty trick.

Read them as a native would read them. If you truly get stuck on a word/kanji then look it up in jisho or similar.
Making it harder to cheat means you'll spend more time trying to figure out the meaning naturally, and then have a greater commitment to remembering stuff which will ultimately lead to much greater results.

Or rage quitting if you're a big baby.

>> No.16320047

>>16319998

Baited for this exact response. Thanks!

>> No.16320051

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Girlfriend_Is_the_President
>girlfriend
>not childhood friend

really makes u think

>> No.16320055

>>16320051
>逃げるは恥だが役に立つ
>we married as a job!
Really makes you think.

>> No.16320057

>>16320020
Awful advice. All that time spent doing radical searches or whatever could have been spent reading. You only need a bit of self-restraint when using a texthooker ie. try to read and understand a sentence before hovering over any words. And in any case, you'll be mining unknown words so you have to memorise them eventually.

>> No.16320120
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16320120

おにいちゃんおなかすいた

ふりかけごはんたべたい

>> No.16320156
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>>16316066
>>あまりハメはずすなよ
Don’t get so carried away
(Don’t enjoy yourself too much)
羽目を外す
>>16316088
what you said is 嵌めを外す
loling
>>16316123
先生が羽目を外して教壇からおしっこをすれば
「センセイション」
>>16316449
青は藍より出でて藍より青し
Do you know that aphorism?

>> No.16320196

>if only america didnt exist japan would have conquer the world and we would all be japanese right now

>> No.16320236
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>>16318109
Can you understand meanings of those words all?
>>16318606
The shop is the most suitable for the sexaholic like me in the all points, which are the name, the appearance, and its location on the place called Yoshiwara.

名前、外観、そして吉原という立地といい;the name, the appearance, and its location on the place called Yoshiwara.

>> No.16320243

>>16320196
You mean if the Soviet Union didn't exist.

>> No.16320244

Is there a sequel for Core2k/6k deck?
I don't want to mine.

>> No.16320251

>>16320244
There's core10k, but really, you have to mine eventually.

>> No.16320305

Quiz
ジャップは答えるな。

Consider 思惑. How come the first kanji is read with 訓読み and the second with 音読み?

>> No.16320311

>>16313806
Could you give me source on that? Seems somewhat beginner friendly considering I can read it.

>> No.16320318

>>16320311
TasoSin

And you can't really judge a VN based on one screenshot, especially when it's such an easy one. The whole VN isn't like that.

>> No.16320321

>>16320311
Jesus fuck you're a retard. You can't learn Japanese.

>> No.16320325

>>16320318
Thanks anon.
Do you happen to have any easier ones in mind then to ease me in? I've not really tried reading through a full VN in Japanese yet.

>>16320321
Yes I can, just watch me.

>> No.16320330

>>16320325
Try TasoSin then, if it seems interesting to you. If it's too hard, you can just stop,

Here are things you need to run it:
http://holyseal.net/cgi-bin/mlistview.cgi?prdcode=9242

>> No.16320332

>>16320325
Just read what interests you dumbass. I can't believe people still haven't learned that compelling content is the most essential conponent of language learning.

>> No.16320353

>>16320305
Why does it matter? Etymology is meaningless, it just is.

>> No.16320357

>>16320353
The point of quizes is to see if you know the answer. In this case it doesn't matter if you don't. I just think it's an interesting piece of trivia.

>> No.16320376

>額にLOVEと入れるとなったらどんな屈強な精神を持った奴でも人生が完全に終わってるか、完全に始まってるかでなければ、オタオタする。
>人生が完全に終わってるか、完全に始まってるかでなければ、オタオタする。
This part confuses me. If you do X your life will be completely over, if it hasn't completely started you'd be shocked? Obviously wrong and I'm probably missing something obvious

>> No.16320378

What language should I learn after Japanese?

>French
>Italian
>Spanish
>Portoguese
>Chinese
>Korean

>> No.16320386

>>16320376
Note the …か… か there giving you two possible options for でなければ and then what happens if they're でなければ,

So you have [X]か[Y]かでなければ[Z]. "If it isn't X or Y, then Z."

So the speaker would be shocked if it's neither X, not Y.

>> No.16320402

>>16320386
Hm, I think I get it a bit more now but I still don't understand what its trying to say. Doing that ending your life makes sense, but why does the other "option" of starting your life exist

>> No.16320419

>>16320243
One or the other stands correct, really. I highly doubt Japan would've sat there watching the URSS invade Germany and Italy considering they were part of the Axis at the time. They would've breached the truce without the US being a thing (as anon stated), and in the end the URSS would've lost.

Also I'm all for recognizing how the Soviets did the most in the war, but that wouldn't be fair to recognize all the resource and aids the US sent to the URSS during WWII.

>>16320378
More Japanese and Classical Japanese.

>> No.16320421

>>16320402
Having no context, the best I can assume is that it's about the types of people who hang up frames with LOVE in them. You've just gotten married and moved in together, either your life is over (because now you're married and can't do the things you used to like as much), or it's just beginning (because now you're married and can do lots of fun things together). There's a lot of this "life starts/ends when you get married" shit in Japan.

>> No.16320425

コミケに行く人挙手ー

>> No.16320431

>>16320425
Don't cross waiting lines.

>> No.16320434

>>16320421
額 is ひたい anon... people who write stuff on their forehead.

>> No.16320435

>>16320431
And what would happen if I did?

>> No.16320440

>>16320435
Since you're baka gaijin probably nothing, but it's generally considered impolite.

>> No.16320474

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5bSNJ0DekY

>> No.16320653

Any know if there will be an official Gaki Batsu stream somewhere? Or just a stream at all for that matter.

>> No.16320671

fuck 勢

>> No.16320678

>>16320671
俺はそのファック勢の一人なんだぜ

>> No.16320683
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16320683

おにいちゃん

ちゃんとてをあらってから

ごはんたべよ

>> No.16320689

>>16320683
そういえば
久々にちんこ洗ってないから今頃カリにめっちゃチンカスたまってんだろうな

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>>16320689

>> No.16320744

>>16320711
うん。お前の口に。

>> No.16320780

I thought the DJT was moved to /int/.

>> No.16320792

Is it possible to write my own doujinshi or visual novels after about 6 or so years of studying Japanese?

>> No.16320821

>>16320792
If you have to ask then you probably aren't there yet

>> No.16320824

>>16320792
You can probably write them in Old Japanese if you study for 6 years.

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16320839

フロートしっぱいしたー

おかしづくりを

さいごでしくると

へこむ

>> No.16320957

>>16320839
あんたのヌードの写真貸さないならあっち行け
クソがき

>> No.16321002

>>16320957
ロリコンを見つけた!

>> No.16321085

>>16320792
With 6 years of consistent study, you can learn pretty much everything assuming your IQ is not lower than average.

>> No.16321142

>>16321002
だからなに?

>> No.16321452

>>16321085
>consistent study
I laughed.

>> No.16321457

>>16321085
>assuming your IQ is not lower than average.
Approximately half of people have an IQ lower than average.

>> No.16321550

Do ebook files for ミス・ファーブル exist?

>> No.16321554
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16321554

なるほどね

>> No.16321556

Is ITH and translator aggregator hard to set up?

Will chiitrans lite work on windows 10? Since windows 10 doesn't come with IE...

>> No.16321565

>>16321457
>Approximately half of people have an IQ lower than average.
Approximately 90% of those are niggers

>> No.16321568

>>16321565
Actually blacks have higher than average scores when the test is conducted in their dialect.

>> No.16321581

>>16321556

You just download ITH and press attach. Translation aggregator is retarded, just use the firefox hooking method with rikai.

>> No.16321586

>>16321556
Yeah this >>16321581
http://pastebin.com/raw/DgZ84qwk

>> No.16321590

>>16321581
Alright thanks.

>> No.16321603

>>16321554
Recently I came across 目尻 which is literally the ass of your eyes.

>> No.16321666

>>16321581
>>16321586
Seems detrimental in learning Japanese. Maybe you'll be able to read something easy with help like this, but you'll end up dependant on it.

>> No.16321670

>>16321666
How would you do it? Without text hooking at all?

>> No.16321675

>>16321670
He's shitposting, ignore him. As long as you don't enable furi and actually try to recall the things before hovering over them you'll be fine.

>> No.16321815

What do you all think is the best anki deck to go alongside remembering the kanji volume 1? There seems to be quite a few out there.

>> No.16321816

>>16321815
That's a trick question because RTK is bad and you shouldn't do lone kanji study.

>> No.16321825

>>16321816
Well, I'm studying Tae Kim's grammar, too.

>> No.16321834

>>16321670
Step by step.

>> No.16321836

>>16321815
The one in the CoR is good. Just make sure whatever you use matches the RTK edition number you're using (presumably 6th).

>> No.16321849

>>16321816
>you shouldn't do lone kanji study.
Why not?

>> No.16321862

>>16321849
Because it's stupid, just like you.

>> No.16321868

>>16321849
Inefficient. RTK just assigns English words to the symbols and even after you complete it you have 0 Japanese knowledge and can't read anything. Whereas with the vocab method you pick up words immediately, immerse yourself in content much earlier and can tell apart kanji by context (e.g. you learn 食堂 and 食事, ergo 食 is food related). There is really no reason to ever do RTK unless you find it extremely hard to differentiate between kanji.

>> No.16321872

>>16321849
Ignore him. Some people prefer to learn straight from vocab, others prefer to do some individual kanji study. It's up to you, just don't let it take up so much of your time that it distracts from your reading.

>> No.16321875

>>16321849
Because you're not learning japanese. And even if you wanted to do lone kanji study, RTK is among the worst things available for it.

>> No.16321889

Remembering the Kanji really does seem sub par to me. I mean, only having the English definitions and not the actual Japanese word? What were they thinking? They could have simply written one additional line to show you what it says in actual Japanese.

>> No.16321892

>>16321889
They're not even definitions. They're keywords. There is no definition for kanji.

>> No.16321893

Do you use your computer in all Japanese?

I just switched to Japanese mode in Windows and all my applications in Japanese too. Even steam. I wonder if my games will be in Japanese too.

>> No.16321905

>>16321849
Kanji vs vocab is by far the most controversial topic on DJT, so I would advise taking everything you read about that matter with a grain (or an entire cellar) of salt. I can tell you two things: 1. Unless you care about handwriting, which most people here don't, it doesn't matter which method you choose; 2. Kanji study WILL give you results if you see it through to the end.

>> No.16321911

>>16321905
>1. Unless you care about handwriting, which most people here don't, it doesn't matter which method you choose
No, it doesn't "doesn't matter". Isolated kanji study is by necessity isolated, and therefore you are delaying actually studying japanese. There is no reason to study kanji in isolation of vocabulary when you're not learning to write. None. Zero. RTK is worse than worthless, it's literally a waste of time with only subjective benefits.

>> No.16321912

>>16321905
It will give you the exact same results except way slower*

>> No.16321923

>>16321911
>>16321912
so should I just be grinding the core2k deck and mining once my grammar is up to par, in both of your opinions?

>> No.16321926

>>16321923
Reading is simply the most important thing to do. If you want to memorize things, memorize words. It doesn't matter the source as long as they're present in what you're reading, include readings, and have reasonable definitions.

>> No.16321927

>>16321911
>>16321912
You're overlooking the fact that knowing the Jouyou kanji makes acquiring new vocab infinitely easier. Not to mention that, rather than opting for one over the other, one could always do kanji study and Core in tandem - that's what I would recommend, actually, but I'm a handwriting autist, so yeah.

>> No.16321934

>>16321927
>You're overlooking the fact that knowing the Jouyou kanji makes acquiring new vocab infinitely easier.
1) Define "knowing"
2) [citation needed]
>rather than opting for one over the other, one could always do kanji study and Core in tandem
That's called "spending all of your time cramming and none of it reading".

>> No.16321935

Hi, ともだち。
Do particles come before or after words? What difference does it make, before or after?

Example:
と言う
or
言うと ?

>> No.16321937

>>16321935
Neither, and the difference depends on what you're looking at.

>> No.16321942

>>16321927
You're overlooking the fact that knowing vocab makes acquiring new vocab infinitely easier.

>> No.16321943

>>16321937
と is the wrong particle from 言う?

>> No.16321944

>>16321943
No. Your question is basically nonsensical. Go back to your grammar book.

>> No.16321980

>ラムネ

Why the fuck is that stuff still a thing?
I was wondering for half an hour what the fuck was up with this bottle.

Offtopic, I know.

>> No.16322005

>>16321980
>Offtopic, I know.
Yes. Now fuck off.

>> No.16322020

>>16321980
https://vndb.org/v16511

>> No.16322026

The worst and best part about learning Japanese is realizing a bunch of translations you've read are literally just rewrites based on google translate or something.

>> No.16322028

>>16322026
I know, right?

>> No.16322150

So is it better spending 40 minutes watching one episode of raw anime where you understand every single part or spending 40 minutes watching two episodes of raw anime where you miss a bunch of shit?

>> No.16322157

>>16322150
Whatever's more compelling.

>> No.16322163

>>16322150
It's better to spend 40 minutes reading instead.

>> No.16322185

>>16322150
Watching 2 episodes of subbed anime while paying attention to the audio and referring to the subtitles when you don't understand something.

>> No.16322199

>>16322163
I'm not deaf unfortunately so I have to focus on listening practice at least somewhat, as painful as it is

>> No.16322238

>>16322185
But isn't that kind of cheating to just not even try when there's something you don't understand? Is there even a point if you only understand the parts you understand and skip over the parts you don't?

It's not like when you're reading if there's a part you don't get you just instantly open up an English translation and check it, you spend as long as you need figuring it out, so why would I just instantly rely on subs when doing listening practice? Feels like I'm missing out

>> No.16322242

"itai dare desu ka," "itai nan desu ka," what does itai mean in this context?

I hear this all the time in anime but I can't figure out what function it serves.

>> No.16322245

>>16322242
Sorry I can't read romaji. Please try again in Japanese.

>> No.16322262

>>16322242
Why do you copy questions from Reddit?

>> No.16322263

>>16322242

It means "what hurts?" and "who hurts?" obviously.

>> No.16322266

>>16322242
The pleasure of being cummed inside.

>> No.16322279

>>16322242
The pain of being cummed inside.

>> No.16322291

>>16322199
Read VNs with voice acting

>> No.16322305

>want to actually BUY an ebook that isn't uploaded anywhere
>amazon only lets you pay with a credit card
>credit cards in my country are expensive as hell and I wouldn't use it for anything except an occasional online purchase every few months
god damn just allow PayPal or something why don't you want my money

>> No.16322309

>>16322305
Who are you quoting?

>> No.16322316

>>16322291
I do that too but it doesn't feel like it's improving my listening comprehension enough

>> No.16322322

>>16322316
Listen better then.

>> No.16322323

>>16322316
Because you aren't comprehending, you're hovering over some word autocopied to Firefox or whatever you kids use these days.

>> No.16322324

>>16322305
who the fuck cares

>> No.16322327

>>16322316
It takes time, lots of time, regardless of whether you watch anime or read VNs. So do whatever is more enjoyable, aka VNs.

>> No.16322331

>>16322324
I do.

>> No.16322341

>>16322331
Someone other than the faggot that is blogging this.

>> No.16322343

>>16322316
For every dialog you can try to not look at the text at all at first and only listen.

>> No.16322346

>>16322327
I guess you're right, trying to watch anime raw does end up just being too difficult and time consuming

>> No.16322356

>>>/t/748921
Some of those games may, or may not interest you.

>> No.16322359
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>> No.16322368

>>16322359
Kill yourself.

>> No.16322374

Can someone translate this, please?
はなみずずるずる

>> No.16322378

>>16322374
pleasure of cumming inside

>> No.16322381

>>16322374
sniffling a runny nose

>> No.16322387

What do you think will teach me more?
Reading a difficult Japanese VN where I'm stuck every 2 sentences with tons of words I don't know or baby mode VN and manga?

Like I've read all NHK easy news over the last few weeks and while it was fun to read and understand everything while reading fluently, I get the feeling I don't improve cause they use simple grammar and vocabulary (I literally knew all words except satellite and radiation and stuff like that)

It's either too easy or too hard.
Well at least that's what I think, maybe reading easy stuff will still help me or is reading the hard stuff more efficient in order to improve myself?

>> No.16322394

>>16322387
You shouldn't read something crazy hard, but you should pick something that is just above your comfort level, something that feels like a bit of a challenge.

>> No.16322395

>>16322387
Why do you only think in extremes? Just read a normal VN which is 99,99% of stuff out there.

>> No.16322398

>>16322387
The trick is finding that level that's above your level but not so much that it brings you to a complete standstill

But in general you should prioritise reading harder stuff over easier stuff, reading stuff you find easy will just result in you wasting time because you won't be improving

>> No.16322426

>>16322387
Don't go for "difficulty". Go for something that you enjoy.

I learned more english while playing english videogames with a fucking dictionary in my lap than I ever learned with "learning" methods.

>> No.16322427

>>16322394
>>16322398
I see thank you.

>>16322395
I don't really think in extremes, I guess "above my comfort level" just seems like too hard for me.

Well I'll be looking for an eroge that is just right difficulty wise.

>> No.16322442

>>16322427
That is just you being a babby. And searching through dozens of eroge to find one that is "just right difficulty wise" is also babby. Just pick one you want to read a lot and just read it. Any other way of thinking is severely stunting you.

>> No.16322458

>>16322427
Keep in mind that it's normal that when you pick up anything for the first time it comes off as being way too difficult, but once you read through an hour or so of it you get used to the authors writing style and it feels a lot more doable, make sure you're not just dismissing everything from the get go because of this, pick one thing that's compelling and looks normal difficulty wise and give it a chance for a while

>> No.16322486

>>16322150
>>16322316
Go watch some Jdramas/movies (with Japanese subs (optional)).

Better listening practice than anime and you're forced to listen instead of texthooking a visual novel.

>> No.16322492

>>16322486
I'm sure I'd still have the same problem with watching jdramas or movies that I do with anime, shit's too time consuming and rage inducing

>> No.16322493

>>16322486
The acting in J-dramas is so OTT that it's not much different than anime. I fucking wish there was an easy way to get subs for them though, jumping through 20 hoops and then being forced to re-time the entire thing for every ad-break is a fucking joke.

>> No.16322495

The makers of these eroge charts obviously have barely read any and recommend complete junk but I'm too embarrassed to make my own because my photo editing skills are non-existent.

どうしようかな。。。

>> No.16322499

>>16322495
Make a pastebin or something.

>> No.16322502

>>16322493
>The acting in J-dramas is so OTT that it's not much different than anime
Really depends on the series, but can't really deny that. Some top shelf waifus make it all better though.

>> No.16322505
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>>16322495

>> No.16322520

>>16322505
>Higurashi
>B

Useless/10

>> No.16322521

>>16322495
Type them here.

>> No.16322522

>>16322505
That's just a normal eroge chart, it's not for Japanese learners.

>> No.16322524

>>16322442
>>16322458
>pick one thing that's compelling
Alright I'll just read 娘姉妹 then cause I'm a sick lolicon that likes incest.
It's not even that long.

https://vndb.org/v426

Damn son I'm looking forward to impregnate these little sluts.

>> No.16322529

>>16322522
Japanese learners can do anything! Pick something that you like the looks of and give it a crack.

>> No.16322532

>>16322524
That's cool, so play it instead of blogging about it in japanese learning thread

>> No.16322536
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16322536

>>16322524
>Blood-related Daughter Heroine
>Sex Involving Children
>Blood-related Father/Daughter Incest
Normally it's at least the brother. Father is disgusting.

>> No.16322541

>>16322524
Just searched it up on sukebei and nothing showed up.

>> No.16322543

Any RPG Maker games you guys would recommend for reading?
I've been thinking about playing the "towelket" series, but it might not be appropriate for a 3-month beginner.

>> No.16322544

>>16322524

Hey I recognize those sluts from my booru fapping over the years.

>> No.16322562

>>16322541
https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=430341
open your eyes senpai

>> No.16322566
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16322566

日本語ペラペラになれる幸運の幻影が俺を苛むぅ

>> No.16322594

>>16322566
そうか

>> No.16322611

>>16322536
Get.a load of this casual

>> No.16322622
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>>16322543
Try『奈落の魔女とロッカの果実』
http://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/13397

>> No.16322656

>>16322611
God tier
Onee-san/otouto
Mother/son
Twincest

Great tier
Onii-chan/imouto

Good tier
Aunt/nephew

Barely even incest but can still be good tier
Cousins

Shit tier
Father/daughter
Uncle/niece

My opinion is fact.

>> No.16322659

>>16322656
>Mother/son
Any recommendations?

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>>16322656
>Shit tier
>Father/daughter

>> No.16322669

>>16322656
神様-tier, purest form of love: age difference < 5 years
糞-tier: age difference > 5 years

>> No.16322683

>>16322669
What are you a fucking mormon or some shit

>> No.16322694

How much should a two month conversation course in japanese cost?

I think this school I applied for is trying to rip me off.

>> No.16322696

>>16322694
五円

>> No.16322761

>>16322694
Find a random Japanese person online and talk with them for free

>> No.16322784
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16322784

Huh, I had decided to look up that expression and found out that the なる being used isn't the one that means to become but is an specific verb (生る) which means to bear fruit...
Please use your kanji, goddamn

>> No.16322790

>>16322656
>Mother/son
Does your mom know that you put that in God tier?

>> No.16322955

How do you put in audio for words you mine? I have the anki import set up and it gets the word, definition and reading but not the audio. For some odd reason it won't save the audio file and it won't play even though I have it set up so an audio should play.

>> No.16322976

When saying "私名前わ_________です", is the す sound dropped?

>> No.16322979

>>16322976
What?

>> No.16322984

>>16322976
the pleasure of being cummed inside

>> No.16322985

>>16322976
Why did you post a question from reddit?

>> No.16322986

>>16322979
Stop biting jesus.

>> No.16322989

>>16322026
Just how widespread is this, I wonder? Making translations that are just the "translator" making a rewrite around machine translation of the Japanese text, and passing it off as a real translation. It seems like usually it ends with readers being none the wiser, because it seems legit to those who haven't read or can't read both versions.

>> No.16322990

>>16322976

>_________

What kanji is this?

>> No.16322993

>>16322989
Just look at /r/lightnovels. They don't even conceal the MTL and it's accepted in the community. Desperate people will take anything.

>> No.16322995

>>16322985
Stop going to reddit.

>> No.16323003

>>16322995
I only went because of this post
>>16322262

>> No.16323010

>>16322995
He could just google it and see it points to reddit

>> No.16323043

もはやパンじゃん

>> No.16323076

ペンパインアップルアップルペン

>> No.16323096

Is my translation of this line from a manga correct?

Original: [Female Speaker] Doushite jibun no tsubuyaki wo wazawaza sekaijū ni mukete hasshin suru hitsuyou gozaimasu no?

My Translation: Why's sending one's tweet around the world necessary?

>> No.16323106

>>16323096
Really depends on the context. I guess they're talking about twitter based on your translation?

>> No.16323113

>>16323096

This time it wasn't from reddit...

>> No.16323116

>>16323113
It is.

>> No.16323117
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16323117

Hey, looking for native japanese speakers (or atleast someone who speaks it semi fluently) to teach me the basics of japanese. I'm sick of reading tons of ebooks and want to learn from someone directly. I already know Kana.

In exchange I can offer to teach german or buy you some gaym on steam, but I really don't have the money to pay for every hour or stuff like that.

Please add me on kik: Mrstexo

>> No.16323123

>>16323117
You can't learn Japanese if you aren't self disciplined enough to study on your own.
And you're not getting any lessons worth shit that aren't at least 50$/h.

>> No.16323141

>>16323117
You should take a Japanese class at school or something

>> No.16323146

>>16323117
>>>/int/

>> No.16323150

How many people here actually practice production? I've been reading for over 2 years now but I've barely practised production at all, it just feels like such a hassle even though I know I should be doing it

>> No.16323154

>>16323150
>even though I know I should be doing it
Says who? If you have no interest in working in Japan it is a waste of your time.

>> No.16323161

>>16323150
I take college classes so I actually do a lot of it. I'm procrastinating a writing assignment right now in fact.

>> No.16323167

>>16323154
It feels weird being able to read stuff with general ease and yet not being able to hold a basic conversation though, I just want all my language areas to be around the same level

>> No.16323185

>>16323150
Doesn't reading help your production at all? What sort of thing are you reading?

>> No.16323196

>>16323185
I'm sure it helps in general but I still feel like pretty much a complete production amateur because I've had such little practice doing it, same kind of thing with listening comprehension, doesn't matter how much time you spend reading you have to focus on just listening if you wanna specifically get good at that area

>> No.16323213

>>16323196
I try to watch raw anime and I understand maybe 15% of it. It's really hard.

>> No.16323217

>>16323123
>you're not getting any lessons worth shit that aren't at least 50$/h.
I've got a private teacher for around $20 per 1,5-2 hour class, who I meet in person, prepares and checks homework for me, specializes my teaching, is good at explaining and is a qt despite being 3D.

>> No.16323281

>>16323213
Just gotta keep doing it until you get good unfortunately

>> No.16323294

皆で分担してあたることになるだろう。

What's してあたる?

>> No.16323308

>>16323213
Try watching something like Aikatsu, see if that percentage increases.

>> No.16323321

>>16323213
Don't watch raw then, unless it's something you've seen before and you already know the plot. At that level you will probably learn more with subs, just try not to look at them too much and focus on the pictures instead, until you're really lost and need a quick glance.

>> No.16323348

>>16323294
Provide context you dumb nigger.

>> No.16323368

>>16323117
もうできない

>> No.16323396

>>16323348

Basically MC is getting people to go into the forest with him to find a lost girl.

I'm feeling like he's basically saying "Welp it looks like this is everyone's problem now"

>> No.16323514
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16323514

Why am I getting this error?

>> No.16323523

>>16323514
file is occupied

>> No.16323534

>>16323523
Corrupted you mean? I wonder how that happened.

>> No.16323546

>>16323534
no I mean occupied

>> No.16323565

>>16323546
Well how do I make it unoccupied?

>> No.16323567

>>16323565
dunno

>> No.16323580

>>16323514
Useful troubleshooting tips:
Look for install instructions.
Check the comments of wherever you downloaded the game, and places like nyaa and anime-sharing, to see if anyone else has the same problem.
Google the error.

>> No.16323585

>>16323565
Restart computer and try running the game.

When a file is in use that means another program is using it. That means you should close all unnecessary running programs (restarting the computer does that) and then run the program that needs to use the file.

>> No.16323750

First 300 mnemonics in KKLC with formatting:

http://pastebin.com/raw/pD2X3YhN

>> No.16323760

>>16323750
Oh hey, I'm the anon who's doing 1800 onwards. Rather slowly, but I'm making progress. Anyway, I was actually wondering about formatting, and also if I should include other info like radicals and jouyou/jinmeiyou/hyougai. Thoughts?

>> No.16323767

>>16323760
The extra info is a lot easier to document. I believe the KKLC deck on ankiweb tried to keep all the information but the mnemoncs, and it can be doublechecked for correctness pretty easily.

>> No.16323770

>>16323767
Got it, I'll do just the mnemonics using your markup then. I'll post it here when I'm done.

>> No.16323778

>>16323770
I struggled to reflect the book as much as possible. I kept making minor deviations for the sake of consistency without realizing it. The only things I gave up on were radical forms and picking out specific kanji when it was unambiguous from the text, like X 0414.

>> No.16323786

>>16323778
>picking out specific kanji when it was unambiguous from the text, like X 0414.
Sorry, what do you mean?

>> No.16323788

>>16323786
I got tired of typing out readings for kanji to get the kanji into the text while transcribing it, so when the text indicates the kanji by number, I often replaced it with an X just so I didn't have to type it, since it'll be easy to automatically replace the X with the right character with a script. Just excusing myself for doing that.

>> No.16323797

>>16323788
Ah, right, yeah I don't think that's a big deal. By the way, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to web design and such, so this is all the help I can offer you. Hopefully other anons will also lend a hand so that you don't have to do all the rest by yourself.

>> No.16323817

>>16323797
I would have to know what the hell you're talking about to consider helping.

>> No.16323823
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>>16323817
We're transcribing the mnemonics in KKLC. See picture and >>16323750
><p>Take 釆 as a <i>crudely tied rice bundle</i>―halfway between the basic rice bundle (X-radical) and the neatly tied rice bundle (X-radical). In this book, 釆 will appear only once without 田 below it, at X 1506. Here imagine a rotation of sentries who <b>WATCH</b> over the <i>crudely tied rice buncles</i> left out in a <i>field</i>. They take turns in <b>ORDER</b>. X 1510</p>

>> No.16324007

was looking for some advice on catching up with Japanese.

I took a japanese class that essentially followed genki I, but due to schedule conflicts I haven't been able to take second semester which covers genki II. I'll be taking second semester soon (it starts in three weeks), but I haven't practiced all too much. I remember all of both hiragana and katakana and, i just need refreshers on most other things.

I'm wondering if anyone has a suggestion of which would be more advantageous, either:
-Going through genki I
-Going through Tae Kim's Guide
I feel I'll remember vocab as I go along and do some readings, it's mostly the grammar and kanji I need to go over again.

any suggestions on which I should dedicate myself to over the next few weeks?
Thanks for any suggestions

>> No.16324015

>>16324007
Genki I is still really really early, might as well follow the usual beginner path and do Tae Kim + Core2k + easy content.

>> No.16324079

>>16324015
Alright sounds good, that's what I was leaning towards too.

Thanks for the suggestion

>> No.16324121

Why is DJT not making the ultimate deck for learning Japanese?

>> No.16324127

Why is DJT still here? >>>/int/69097124

>> No.16324133

>>16324121
We've made several. The issue is anki deck optimization will only account for up to 20 percent increase in efficiency (reading is the 80%+), and is hard to measure.

>> No.16324134

>>16323823
What is the point of transcribing this? Making an anki deck?

>> No.16324136

>>16324134
Yes. Or just using it without the massive PDF or physical book. Either way you want it.

>> No.16324420

>>16317502
Holy shit, my nigga.

>> No.16324469

What should I eat for dinner (in Japan) ?

>> No.16324480

>>16324469
McDonald's

>> No.16324485
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16324485

>>16324469
カレーだよ

にほんにいったら、まずカレーだよ

カレーたべないと

にほんにいるいみがないよ

>> No.16324488

>>16324485
カレーは昨日食べたんよ
もう沢山よ

>> No.16324503

>>16324127
When you split a community, it becomes impossible to put them back together very quickly. What should have happened is /int/ being used as a temporary base, but instead some people who would be better suited to Reddit decided to stay there. They're talking about starting a Discord, for fucks sake.

>> No.16324511
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16324511

>>16324488
じゃあおでんだよ

おでんをたべないと

ふゆがこないよ

>> No.16324519

>>16324503
>some people who would be better suited to Reddit
I think what you meant is, better suited to /int/.

>> No.16324598

氷下魚もおいしいよ

>> No.16324738
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16324738

あのねおにいちゃん

なまたまご

どうしてたべないの?

>> No.16324815
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16324815

Hey guys, does anyone know if it's possible to display two sets of subtitles on MPC? I'm watching some anime and I want the Jap subs and Eng subs to show at the same time but I'm not sure how to go about doing that

>> No.16324818

>>16324469
豚骨ラーメン

>> No.16324835
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16324835

>>16324818
あたしは醤油ラーメンたべたい

>> No.16325018

Remember if you encounter an adverb you don't know while consuming native material, 90% of the time it'll mean "suddenly"

>> No.16325048

地震怖いよ

>> No.16325091

>>16325048
震度5までは

揺れたうちにはいらない

>> No.16325103
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16325103

Amazing how much japanese your forget if you don't use it for a year.

I had to start all over since I even forgot some basic kana.

>> No.16325157

>>16325103
You can't have been that far into the language to begin with if you forgot kana

>> No.16325159

>>16318175
>>16314433
>>16318759
>>16325103
We seem to get multiple people every thread returning after giving up for a year.

>> No.16325167

>>16325159
That's the case for like 90% of the people that attempt to study Jap, poor guys don't even realise they're just going to give up again

>> No.16325185

>>16325157
It was far enough to have basic conversations with my online teacher. But a lot of stuff happend this year and I couldn't focuse on studying at all.

>>16325159
Yeah, I just started again since I got the confirmation that I'm allowed to do a working holiday in Japan just now.
Did a placement test and they said I'm overqualified for the absolut most basic course and that they want to throw me into the advanced course, despite the fact that I forgot so much. I have to do some power learning now to get back into it or I'll sit there for the next 2 months, thrown a shitton of money out of the window without understanding a single word what the teacher is trying to tell me.

>> No.16325194

>>16325185
Your kind goes into the thread on /int/.

>> No.16325312

What use of して is it in 二人して?

"ったく。二人して、どこほっつき歩いてんだか"

>> No.16325330

>>16325312
It's the same as using で instead there.

>(1)動作の手段・方法などを表す。「で」の意。「みんな―やればすぐにできる」「火ばし―はさむ事なし/徒然 213」

>> No.16325351

>>16325330
Ah fair enough, thanks

>> No.16325482

>>16324815
Well, if you won't find better way, just convert video with the first set of subs to any hardsubbed format, I guess.

>> No.16325501

>魔法瓶

Why are the japs so cute?

>> No.16325524

>>16325501
Maybe it came from a brand name like magic marker. Or Thermos itself.

>> No.16325554

>>16325501
可愛 is the main export product.

>> No.16325664

What does 坊 mean when it's used like
>甘えん坊だね。

>> No.16325691

>>16325664
坊 ぼう (n,suf) person who is ..

>> No.16325692

>>16325664
It's a suffix that means "person who does *thing* a lot".
甘えん坊 - spoiled person (甘える)
食いしん坊 - glutton (食う)
寝坊 - oversleeper (寝る)

>> No.16325803

>>16325691
>>16325692
Thanks

>> No.16326215

>now the retarded mods removed (You) so it's a pain in the ass to see if someone replied to you
Thanks >>>/qa/ and the retarded mods

>> No.16326219

>>16326215
Install 4chan X like everyone that cares.

>> No.16326221

@16326215
Fuck you talking about? I still see it.

>> No.16326227

>>16326215
We should make multiple threads asking for kana/kanji captchas to post on /jp/

>> No.16326259

>>16326215
What the fuck.

>> No.16326301

>>16326215
Works on my machine ;^)

>> No.16326378
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16326378

全体的に???

What is the last word please? I can't make it out. Looks like ダサい but I don't get why the い would be in hiragana.

>> No.16326406

>>16326378

>> No.16326412

>>16326406
ダサハ doesn't make sense either. It's not even a word.

>> No.16326415

>>16326412
now it is

>> No.16326421

>>16326415
No it's not.

>> No.16326426

>>16326421

Yes it is

>> No.16326439

>>16326426
You can't just invent a word and decide it is now one.

Besides you haven't even given it a meaning, what the hell would ダサハ mean? 駄差葉, uh?

>> No.16326441

>>16326378
>Looks like ダサい but I don't get why the い would be in hiragana.
Looks like ダサい indeed. The last character being in hiragana is normal. It's part of what's conjugated, so think of it like the い in 可愛い for instance.

Other words with the same pattern:
ダルい
エロい
キモい
コクる
パニクる

>> No.16326448

>>16326441
I see, that'd make sense. I believe I've seen similar word with a い like that before too. I'll just go with that I guess. Thanks.

>> No.16326461

I'm going to delete anki and increase my reading by 500%

>> No.16326465

>>16326461
おk

>> No.16326468
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16326468

>>16326461
People informing others what they plan on doing never end up doing anything.

You just doomed yourself the moment you pressed enter.

>> No.16326510

>>16326461
So you are going up from 5 minutes of reading to 30 minutes?

>> No.16326529

>>16326510
30 isn't 500% of 5 minutes

>> No.16326537

>>16326529
Found the autist

>> No.16326547

>>16326537
Found the retard

>> No.16326567

>>16326529
恥ずかしい
He said increase it by 500% -- you add the 25 to the original 5 min to get 30.
If you were to increase it by 100% it would be 10 min of reading, not 5.

>> No.16326587

>>16326567
wtf i hate math now

>> No.16326626

>>16326510
1000 minutes instead of 200 minutes.

>> No.16326900

I've started putting sentences I can't figure out into Google Translate now that they've improved the algorithm. Obviously it's not reliable but it often makes obvious something I stupidly overlooked.

>> No.16327089

>>16325103
That happened to me too, except I remembered enough to be able to read. Basic japanese is in my long long lon gterm memory.

>> No.16327154

>>16325103
I can barely even write kana by hand anymore since it's been forever since I did. It takes forever to recall the shapes in my mind. I once wrote ち instead of さ, and ト instead of と.
But it's not like I'd mistake any of these if I were reading them. It's really weird.

>> No.16327316
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How do the Japanese usually type their silly language on a smartphone? Input the hiragana and let the phone transform it into kanji?

>> No.16327338

Quick someone recommend me something easy that I can listen to on my phone while I'm out

>> No.16327351

>>16327316
yes

>> No.16327410

>>16327338
any drama that comes with the soundtrack of an anime, probably the easiest listening there is

or the automatic NHK easy news machine voice thing

>> No.16327433
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16327433

What sfx is that, please?

>> No.16327449

Thinking about deleting my core progress.
I did the stupid mistake to do 50 new cards or something like that which completely overwhelmed me.

I wanted to power through them and learn them but some stuff in my life got in the way and I couldn't.

My core stats and review numbers vary greatly and fuck my shit up.

But if restarted core with 3k cards and did 500 of them every day that would fuck me up just as bad wouldn't it?

>> No.16327456

>>16327433
ぞくっ?

>> No.16327459

>>16327449
Why the fuck would you redo core? If you want to delete it, do so, and just do a mining deck instead. In fact, why haven't you started one yet idiot?

>> No.16327461

>>16327449
Can you read yet? If you can, do that instead of anki.

>> No.16327463

>>16327456
Ah right, that would fit the context and how そ has been written so far too. Cheers.

>> No.16327653

>QWERTZ keyboard
>japanese keyboard setting switches Z and Y
>fuck up like every second word

Fuck this place and this shitty QWERTZ shit.

>> No.16327816

>>16327316
What kind of question is that? Are you implying to type in a computer you don't do that?

Have you got DJT's officially approved kanji keyboard?

>> No.16327830

>>16327816
DJT has an official kanji keyboard?

I just rolled with Simeiji because this Samsung phone is one giant piece of shit fucking koreans.

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>>16327830
>DJT has an official kanji keyboard?
Yes, and it's price has been quite high lately due the success, luckily I bought it before the boom (although two keys are damaged and I'm waiting for replacement parts since July).

>> No.16327846

>>16327841
>I'm waiting for replacement parts since July
Stop posting on 4chan and go read like fifty scifi books to fix your english.

>> No.16327851

>>16327841
Oh, you're talking about that sort off stuff.

I thought you just meant a keyboard for phones.

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16327896

>>16327846
Illuminate me, my EOP overlord.

>> No.16327899

>>16327896
>I've been waiting for replacement parts since July
>I'm waiting for replacement parts I ordered in July

>> No.16327921
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16327921

>>16327899
Ah. Where does sci-fi play a role, then?

>> No.16327923

>>16327921
Language acquisition
You're clearly fluent but you haven't acquired the english psychogrammar yet, keep reading

>> No.16327960

>>16327923
I'm disappointed you haven't called out on the "it's" misuse slip, but thank you.

I read a lot of books (mostly technical), but things stopped sticking after the Internet became ubiquitous, since my brain doesn't differentiate written input from the Internet and from books, making me doubt everything equally and shut the mindless absorption system I had when reading in my native language as a kid.

I guess my only way into this whole "feeling the language" thing would be having a conversation partner so I start to unconsciously acquire compound tenses and discernment when it comes to prepositions.

I also fear for Japanese in this regard, specially since it's not a language that's been looming around me from an early age.
On the other hand, nips have a higher literacy rate and there aren't as many "EJLs" collaborating with the linguistic gang-rape that happens in English.

>> No.16328020

>>16313930
写真を取ってもいいですか? means "May I take your picture?"
He thought you were a Japanese speaker who can't speak English.

>> No.16328094

>>16323294
This is clear even without context.

あたる here means to get to doing something.
They're dividing up the task, whatever it is, each one trying something different.

>> No.16328135

>>16326378
on the whole, overall

>> No.16328195

>>16327459
>>16327461
I can read a little, but while reading I noticed that I know some words really really well and fail to recognize others even though I already learned them in anki.

I feel like I forgot a lot due to me only doing my reps halfhearted or sometimes not doing them at all.
My anki stats are a clusterfuck with many mistakes done in the past and a retention between 45-80% it also says I only did my reps 200/300 days.

I know I fucked up big time no excuses.

For the mining deck I actually got one but while reading I noticed a lot of the words are already in core but simply didn't reach them yet so I thought I should keep going since the example sentences are useful.

>> No.16328362

>>16314005
>my mouth, my ears my eyes are overflowing
>putting endless anime into my brain

>> No.16328438

>>16328094

Yea I guess I see it. I had just never seen あたる used that way before so I wasn't sure what it actually was.

>> No.16328464

>>16328362
Yes, that's how you learn Japanese

>> No.16328563

>>16324815
>MPC
Don't use that thing, use potplayer instead. And yes, it can display two subs at a time.

>> No.16328588

I play league in 日本語 so I can practice while I play. Too bad all the Japanese players lef NAt so I can't practice with them anymore. I wonder if my ping would suck if I transfered.

>> No.16328602

>>16328588

Keep me updated fampai.

>> No.16328653

>>16328588
Stop playing video games you manchild.

>> No.16328657

>>16328588
>I play league in 日本語 so I can feel I'm not slacking when I'm slacking
Fixed.

>> No.16328667

Looking for raw doujinshi and is there a way to blacklist tags in perfect dark?

>> No.16328738

>>16328588
have you tried playing good games in 日本語?

>> No.16328986
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16328986

can someone explain to me what nips mean when they write tiny letters like this

>> No.16329066

>>16328986
AFAIK It's a glottal stop, used as an exclamation mark.

>> No.16329068

>>16329066
not really

>> No.16329175

>>16329066
You're thinking of the small っ, he's asking about half-width kana.

>> No.16329207

>>16328986
I don't know but I always wondered too.

What's the point of half-width kana anyway?

>> No.16329240

>>16329207
To fit twice as many kana in the same space?

>> No.16329290

>>16329207
It's to bleed the eye.

>> No.16329314

>>16329207
In older computer programs/terminals and shit which used English characters, to use Jap they needed to fit in the same space as English characters and so Half width kana was invented

>> No.16329489

>>16329240
Not a real question.

>>16328986
How does Twitter handle half-width as opposed to full-width kana?
I know 4chan considers every chink character as at least double its value, since I once wrote a paragraph in this way and it reached the 2000 characters limit pretty fast.

>> No.16329495

milk secreted by some neonates

>> No.16329503

>>16329489
I believe each half-width counts as 1 tweet character.

https://dev.twitter.com/basics/counting-characters

>> No.16329582
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16329582

おにいちゃんこんにちは

にほんごでおなはししよ

>> No.16329598

>>16329582
久しぶりだね
地震で死んだかと思った
元気?

>> No.16329630

>>16329582
I get the feeling from reading his posts that this guy is not the real imouto. Probably some attentionwhore who thought he could snap up the persona and use it to get (you)s

>> No.16329641

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfe_XvOjn1U
>大漢和辞典には60万語の熟語が掲載されている

dekinai

>> No.16329714

>>16329641
https://www.amazon.com/Larousse-Concise-French-English-English-French-Dictionary/dp/2035700027
>"concise"
>230 000 entries

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>>16329598
元気なんてよそよそしいあいさつはぬきにして

おにいちゃんのきょうのこんだておしえて

>> No.16329773

>>16329772
suck my dick

>> No.16329815

>>16329772
朝ご飯はセレアル
昼はパイ
晩ご飯はスパゲッティだった
全部美味しかったぜ

>> No.16329836
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16329836

>>16329815
何のパイ?何のスパゲッティ?

野菜たりなくない

サラダつけないの?

>> No.16329933

How do you deal with leeches?

>> No.16329961

>>16329933
I tend to just avoid murky puddles and rivers in the forest.

>> No.16329963

>>16329933
Pour salt on them. I disabled them, but never got one either.

>> No.16330011

>>16329933
Pull them off before they get big or you will bleed heaps

>> No.16330033

How do you guys study grammar?

Do you just read how it works with example sentences and then think of examples in your head and say them out loud?

>> No.16330052

>>16330033
>read through tyler kim page
>read and try to understand example sentences
>move on to next page
>finish tyler kim
>start reading
>get good at grammar

>> No.16330081

>>16330052
>read kims guide
>forget everything 5 minutes later

>> No.16330099

>>16329836
パイはミンチパイだった
何のスパゲッティって言われてもこれしか知らないから答えられない
でも冷凍野菜は付けたよ、一応
足りないかもしらないね、気をつける
心配してくれてありがとう

>> No.16330118
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16330118

>>16330099
スパゲッティって

どこの国でぜーんぜんちがうから

にてる画像さがして見せて

にほんのだいひょうてきなスパゲッティ

>> No.16330140
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16330140

>>16330118
はいこれだよ

>> No.16330163

>まるでけなげ受けになる

The hell is けなげ受け? I'm guessing it's some BL shit term from context but not sure what.

>> No.16330188
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16330188

>>16330140
はごろも缶だ

にほんではそれは

はごろもミートソースっていう

手抜き料理で

いいかえればファストフードだよ

>> No.16330228

>>16330163
>けなげ受け
けなげ - Brave, gallant
受け - submissive partner, the receiver

I don't know how this is hard.

>> No.16330238

>>16330228
Because 'brave submissive' seems contradictory.

>> No.16330243

>>16330238
It's someone who acts manly to the world, but he's a sub in the sheets. Pretty basic.

>> No.16330250
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16330250

>>16330243

Guess that can work, not that intuitive though.

I'm guessing から here is another BL term or some shit too? Would it be 'rough' from 辛い or shit?

>> No.16330318

>>16330188
それは違うよ
ファストフードじゃない
なぜなら自分でミートソースを作ったから

>> No.16330353

>>16330250
だらしないでググってみなさいよ
https://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/5673553.html

>> No.16330357

>>16330318
じぶんでつくるなんてひまなんだね

ニートソースなの?

>> No.16330366

>>16330353
Huh, never thought からの〜 would be a shitty set idiom like that, was just ググる'ing for "から + BL". Thanks anon.

>> No.16330402

>>16329933
It got to the point where around 2/3 of my anki was leeches so I just stopped anki

>> No.16330432
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16330432

>installed a program to track time and can now confirm how much I read
Feels good when 50%+ is reading

>> No.16330448

Is it even worth having adverbs in anki? Seems like the ones that aren't ridiculously common are pretty much impossible to remember without context

>> No.16330462

>>16330448
>Is it even worth having words in anki? Seems like the ones that aren't ridiculously common are pretty much impossible to remember without context
No

>> No.16330467

>>16330432
I tried that but I get distracted so much and alt+tab to other shit while I'm reading that it's not accurate at all

>> No.16330474

>>16330448
I find it's easier to remember them together with the most common verb they form a pair with. Like ぐっすり + 眠る or きっぱり + 断る

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>>16330467
Manic Time, the program I use, keeps track of what is the active window, i.e., when you tab out it stops counting time for what you're reading (pic related).
Note: I don't know shit about the devs of manic time so I'm not particularly recommending it, if you want to use it yourself research it and stuff.

>> No.16330501

>>16330489
Ah nice, I might try it out, the other one I tried just recorded shit when it was open in general

>> No.16330541

>>16330501
It's pretty good cause it really stops you from bullshitting to yourself. Like, you may think you did a lot of work, but the program will say nope, that's 14 hours of web browser. I particularly recommend this kind of time-tracking for neets, Lord knows I spent too many days shitposting on DJT instead of reading, yet was still convinced I was studying 12 hours a day cause anki felt like forever and 4channing passed hours in minutes.

>> No.16330680

What should I google if I want to find out the recommended route order for a VN?

>> No.16330684

>>16330680
"東京都 発展場 掘られ役"

>> No.16330717

>>16330680
小学生マンコ

>> No.16330746

ホットケーキやこうかな

それとも

エンジンつくろうかな

>> No.16330755

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lcVhOsyYE

>> No.16330760

>>16330717
ありがとう

>> No.16330764

>>16330755
レズの場合はどうなんですかね

>> No.16330776

>>16330755
I quite like that 3D style, wouldn't mind it being done more

>> No.16330789
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16330789

Anyone know of any other LN's formatted like this?

>> No.16330796

>>16330789
All of them that are in azw / bought on amazon.

>> No.16330807

>>16330796
Ill download that 300 pack in the CoR then, thanks

>> No.16330850

>>16330250
からの here means "followed by." The guy? peeking is expecting to see something else happen next. (Hence the response, 何も起きねーよ!!)

This usage is a recent slang, though.

>> No.16330869

>>16330474
Make sure you learn the pitch, too!
ぐっすり [3] http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E3%81%90%E3%81%A3%E3%81%99%E3%82%8A
きっぱり [3] http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E3%81%8D%E3%81%A3%E3%81%B1%E3%82%8A
眠る [0] http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E7%9C%A0%E3%82%8B
断る [3] http://www.weblio.jp/content/%E6%96%AD%E3%82%8B

>> No.16330906

would 2 years be enough to, say, for you to start learning Japanese from absolute zero knowledge to being able to do well in the JLPT enough to pass for a several-year study course in Nipponland?

>> No.16330913

>>16330906
Wrong thread, go to /int/.

>> No.16331036

>>16330906
Which JLPT level? If you try hard enough you will be able to achieve desu

>> No.16331100

>>16330906
You could easily hit n1 in 2 years if you were consistant

>> No.16331137

>>16331100
Maybe if by "consistent" you mean pretty much constant uninterrupted exposure to the language and 24/7 round the clock study of both listening reading speaking and writing

Of course that would only be possible if you were a neet with no other hobbies or responsibilities for that whole 2 year period

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16331194

Is this considered an okay result for local standards

>> No.16331205
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16331205

ブラジルのコーヒーはものすごく甘いってほんと?

>> No.16331225

>>16331137
I mean yea if you where a neet, but you wouldnt need 24/7 exposure. Probably just around 6hrs+

>> No.16331264

>>16331194
Depends on how long you've been studying, but yes.

>> No.16331389

I feel like using a dictionary and anki all the time makes it harder for you to be able to just look at a word and get the meaning without having to look it up

Like even if I see a word for the first time and it's super obvious what it is, I don't feel satisfied until I look it up, which is started to be kind of a pain in the ass

Am I just retarded or does anyone else feel like that too?

>> No.16331396
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16331396

>>16330680
Just read the readme bro

>> No.16331428

>あなたの欺瞞は怪物の分際で怪物に徹さないところです
What does this mean exactly? The "に徹さないところ" is tripping me off

>> No.16331431

>>16331137
2 years can get you to 12,000 words with less than an hour a day of study. Obviously you need grammar and reading and so forth, but just in vocabulary terms how does that compare with what is needed for n1?

>> No.16331436

>>16331431
N1 is about 20k words.

>> No.16331446

>>16331431
Vocabs like the least important part

>> No.16331457

戦わせたり

What is this supposed to mean? I know the verb 戦う and the grammar of たり する but I have no clue about what わせ is supposed to mean there.

>> No.16331466

>>16331457
taekim

>> No.16331471

>>16331446
Don't be ridiculous. Maybe it's importance can be overstated, but the "least"? You can't even have a language without vocab.

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16331473

>>16331457

>> No.16331479

>>16331473
Thanks, anon.

>> No.16331490

>>16331471
You could say that about any aspect of a language

>> No.16331513

>>16331428
https://kotobank.jp/word/通す・透す・徹す-340215

7 (「徹す」とも書く)始めから終わりまで続ける。
ウ (「…でとおす」「…をとおす」の形で)ある状態を続ける。 「一生を独身で-・す」 「彼は小学校から高校まで一番で-・した」 「和服で-・す」 「外国旅行の間、日本語だけで-・した」

>> No.16331522

>>16331490
Vocabulary is just as important as most people think, actually. If you don't know the grammar of something you read but know the meaning of each word in the text, you can still get the gist of what the text is saying. You can't do the same knowing the grammar and not knowing the vocab.

>> No.16331542

>>16331513
Hmm yeah I still don't know what the sentence is saying.

>> No.16331561

>>16331522
>you can still get the gist of what the text is saying
It would be an incredibly vague gist though, you'd only know what the text was saying in simple sentences, anything above that and you'd barely be able to get any of it

You'd be able to guess vocab through context too if you knew grammar and just a few words

>> No.16331586

>>16331137
You have no idea what you're talking about mate. You could reach N1 easily in two years by reading for two hours a day on weekdays and more or weekends, as well as Anki every day. That exceeds the estimated required hours of study.

>> No.16331602

>>16331542
You're a monster, and yet don't play the monster 100%

>> No.16331608

>>16331586
>You could reach N1 easily in two years by reading for two hours a day on weekdays and more or weekends, as well as Anki every day. That exceeds the estimated required hours of study.

Ah yes I forgot they removed the listening sections from the JLPT, makes our lives that much easier

And even if the JLPT was reading only I doubt the average person would be able to reach N1 after two years just from two hours of reading a day, unless they were constantly reading material that was several levels higher than their current level and had huge amounts of motivation to stop the burn out

>> No.16331645

>>16331608
>Ah yes I forgot they removed the listening sections from the JLPT
When the fuck did this happen

>> No.16331650

>>16331602
Ohh I can see it now. Where does 欺瞞 come in though? Or is that packed into the "monster"?
And what a cool sentence, actually. Figuring ambiguous stuff like this out on the first reading seems like a far away dream though...

>> No.16331671

>>16327653
You can change it. I don't remember how, but I changed it to AZERTY.

>> No.16331677

>>16331608
I know two people who got N1 in under 2 years, it's really not that hard if you love Japanese content. Reading for hours every day is easy when you enjoy it.

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16331694

神様、来年は日本語をペラペラさせてください!!

>> No.16331699

>>16331608
Firstly, reading does help with listening comprehension. Secondly, pretty much everyone here will be reading a lot of VNs. And most of all, the listening section of the JLPT is significantly easier than the reading.

>And even if the JLPT was reading only I doubt the average person would be able to reach N1 after two years just from two hours of reading a day, unless they were constantly reading material that was several levels higher than their current level and had huge amounts of motivation to stop the burn out

I said that they would be reading a lot more on the weekends. You must be a beginner if you're talking about 'burn out', because after you get over the initial hump, you'll be reading compelling content and actually enjoying the learning process.

>> No.16331717

>>16331650
Your deception is the following: that you're a monster, and yet don't play the monster 100%.

>> No.16331791

>>16331699
Reading in general barely helps with listening comprehension, reading VNs obviously would, but you'd still want to at least do some listening only practice before doing the N1 otherwise you wouldn't do great at all, and if you just read shit like manga and LNs for 2 years and nothing else your listening comprehension would be at pretty much a complete beginner level

And I meant burn out from constantly having to read shit so far above your level, not just from reading in general, if you wanted to get good enough to pass the N1 after two years you'd constantly have to be one upping yourself and reading the hardest shit you could, otherwise you wouldn't progress fast enough

>> No.16331821

>>16331791
You can simply read normal Japanese and do fine. In fact what you consider "the hardest shit" is probably just normal Japanese and not hard at all. You don't need any knowledge of archaic Japanese to pass a middle school test.

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16331926

>>16331821
Yeah I guess you're right

>> No.16332294

What is the っちゅーとる part of 遭難だっちゅーとる? It's hard to post context because I'd have to post several lines of dialogue but I can if I have to I guess.

>> No.16332305

>>16332294
What exactly is hard about that?

>> No.16332341

>>16332294
っちゅー is という, not sure about the とる though because I don't know the context.

>> No.16332378

My audio replay button icons are invisible in ankidroid.

Any idea why?

My phone broke, repaired it and did a fresh install of everything => replay buttons are working but you can't see them for some reason.

>> No.16332385

>>16331677
I'm getting my results at the end of january so stay tuned (tm)

>>16332294
ちゅうとる→いってる

it's kansai shit my nigga

> 「ちゅうねん」は、標準語で「○○って言うんだよ」が、「○○って言うねん」になって、「○○っちゅうねん」に変化します。昔やっさんがよく言うてた「どないやっちゅうねん!」も、標準語に直せば「どうしろって言うんだよ」ですね。

>> No.16332409

>>16332385

I hate nonstandard dialects because they destroy me every single time.

>> No.16332474

>>16332378
Reset phone to factory settings and reinstall.

>> No.16332579

Where / how can i find out what a word shoyld be when there is a maru in it?

E.g.
ク○リン

How can i google this so i dont have to bug djt next time

>> No.16332604

>>16332579
Google that and click Google Images and have watched DBZ in your childhood.

>> No.16332614

>>16332579
http://jisho.org/search/%E3%82%AF%3F%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3

>> No.16332696
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16332696

Disgusting scans, there's no way I can read the made-up kana reading for this.

I can't even get the middle kanji right it seems.
綾?接?

>> No.16332705

>>16332696

http://kanji.sljfaq.org/

>> No.16332725

>> No.16332729

>>16332725
neat

post more aestethic kanji

>> No.16332744

>>16332705
Ah makes sense, thanks.

>> No.16333020

>>16332378
>>16332474
I did that, cleared ankidroids cache and reinstalled it.
Still no audio buttons.

Like I mentioned before, the buttons "exist" and you can use them, but you can't see them, so I guess it simply can't find the icon?
Any idea where the icon for the replay button is located?

>> No.16333038
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>>16333020
Mine was in
C:\Users\K\Documents\Anki\addons\color_icons\replay.png

>> No.16333125
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16333125

おはようおにいちゃん

きょうもいちにちがんばるぞい

>> No.16333141

>>16332385
>ちゅうとる→いってる
Better:
ゆうとる→いっている
ちゅうとる = と+ゆうとる→と+いっている

>> No.16333252
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16333252

>>16333141
ちゅーとるは

ちゅーとるだよ

東京語に似ていることばがあっても

同じ意味ではないよ

>> No.16333306

>惑
>感
why

>> No.16333375

>>16333306
かきじゅんが

ぜんぜんちがうから

かいてるうちに

くべつがつくようになるんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

>> No.16333398

>>16332696
九井諒子のダンジョン飯では

>ケルピー
>水棲馬

って読ませてたよ

>> No.16333469

>>16333252
それを否定するつもりはないけど
「ちゅーとる」に関しては「なんちゅうこった」とかのおかげで、東京人でも十分に語感を理解できるんじゃない?
ちゃんと使えるかどうかは別の問題ね

>> No.16333544

調子どうmy ninjas

ビジュアルゲームなど楽しんでるかい

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx-PQORm7Kw

>> No.16333607

にほんって

シリコン産業超弱いのよね

なんでだろ

>> No.16333616

>>16333607
シリコンはぜんぶおっぱいにつめてるからほかにつかえるシリコンないんだよ

>> No.16333621

>>16333607
ロリコン産業なら世界一だけどな

>> No.16333673

>>16333616
ぶんけいにほんじんはっけん

シリコンとシリコーン樹脂を区別できないのは

はずかしいからべんきょうしようね

>>16333621
そんなこともないんじゃない?

>> No.16333708

空回りばかり

>> No.16333712

てかこのスレのリンクどっかに張られてんの?日本語をなおそうとすると nice try, retard とか返事してくるjpsieに日本人がこんなにいるとは思えないんだけど

>> No.16333723

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/5kdudb/new_vn_translator_beta_release_github_page_spark/

Edgy texthooker that allows/expects you to correct its splitting/parsing instead of leaving you with a broken parse like chiitrans does.

>> No.16333728

>>16333723
It's garbage that no one should use. Just set up ithvnr rikai firefox.

>> No.16333735

>>16333728
Yes, I agree, but people that refuse to use rikai based setups should still migrate to it instead of staying on parsers that don't allow you to fix the parsing.

>> No.16333794

>>16333735
I just read VNs the same way I read manga, with jisho.org open in the background.

>> No.16333935

>>16333125
おはよう
お元気ですか

>> No.16333953
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16333953

>>16333935
きょうのあさごはんは

ごはんとおみそしると

えだまめとたまごやきと

こまつなのおひたしと

春菊のてんぷらと

ぎゅうにゅうだったよ

おにいちゃんのあさごはんは?

>> No.16334014

>>16333953
>あさごはんは
セリアルだけ、貧乏人だから(._.)
しかし、なんて食欲だ、食いしん坊さんw

>> No.16334062

>want to read eroge
>don't want to read through all the boring common route bullshit to get to the porn
Becoming a weeb was a mistake.

>> No.16334068

>want to read visual novels
>don't want to read through all the boring sex scenes to get to the story

>> No.16334076

>>16334062
>>16334068
Who are you quoting?

>> No.16334079

>>16334062
what are nukige
>>16334068
what are vns without sexual content

>> No.16334097

>>16334068
This, nothing worse than reading sex scenes.

>> No.16334127

>read erotic visual novels
>enjoy both the amazing story and the amazing sex scenes

>> No.16334133

>>16334062
>>16334068
Hold Ctrl until the parts you want to read come up

>> No.16334151

Oh ffs I don't even need to memorize が ざ だ ば ぱ and all the other ones since it just follows the pattern of k into g, s into z, t into d, h into b and h into p if it's a ° instead of ``.

Does katakana follow the same rule?

Also, I downloaded the google japanese input thing but I'm wondering if there's a way to set it to use another language that isn't english for the keyboard config, for when I'm not in japanese mode.

>> No.16334177

>>16334151
>Does katakana follow the same rule?
Yes

As for your other question, change keyboard configs when you want to type Japanese and then change it back. Alt + Shift switches between keyboards

>> No.16334209
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16334209

>>16334014
セリアルってなに?

こういうのだとしたら

カタカナ書きは「シリアル」にしてね

>> No.16334289 [DELETED] 
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16334289

Should have posted this here instead of creating a new thread.

What does the kanji on this shirt say? And why is the bottom a more brush style, while the top seems modern?

>> No.16334339 [DELETED] 

>>16334289
The pleasure of cumming inside a t-shirt

>> No.16334378

Is there a good way to approach production in Japanese? I've been reading, mining, going through flashcards, and writing down words for around a year and a half now and have all but neglected actually trying to express myself in the language. I've been trying it out blind recently and have had some limited success, but even I can tell that some of my choices are awkward or flat out wrong. Should I look toward lang-8?

>> No.16334399 [DELETED] 

>>16334289
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goku

>> No.16334402
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16334402

Wow, thanks Anki.

>> No.16334407

>>16334378
Go watch some niconico streams and find one that interests you and start writing comments. Slower streams are better for this since they will actually read every comment

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16334418

>>16334289

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16334507

>>16334407

>> No.16334534

>>16334507
He is right, I love talking some shitty Japanes with a streamer and getting the feeling of being understood/conveying a message well enough.

Lang8 is great for more advanced stuff, but it takes a lot of energy to write a full entry and corrections feel kinda impersonal.

>> No.16334542
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16334542

おにいちゃんおなかすいた

やきそばたべたい

>> No.16334773

Today I did anki for 0 minutes and read over 1000 lines of my VN.

>> No.16334822

>>16334773
What VN?

>> No.16334830

Here's some easy listening practice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dD4rm-Kz0Q

>> No.16334865

>>16334822

リライト

I got to the last day of the common route and it was a fun eventful day. I wonder how much longer this game goes on.

>> No.16334949

>>16334865
It apparently has 100K lines.
https://tlwiki.org/?title=VN/Eroge_Script_sizes

>> No.16334959

>>16334949

Well that's quite something. Wish there was a way to know how much I've read so far. Also that's a handy site.

>> No.16334971

>>16334865
I've read it, I could tell you if you want, but personally I prefer to find these kind of things out for myself and not be spoiled, so let me know if you don't mind.
Whose route are you doing first? How long did it take you to get this far?

>> No.16335002

>>16334971

I don't know when I started but it's been several months. I like Shizuru the best but I guess you have to do Kotori's route to get to her so that's what I'm doing.

I guess I don't want to be spoiled on specific details but I'd at least like to know how long the road ahead is length wise relative to how far I've gotten. Given all the shit that happened in the forest with no explanation I know I've probably just scratched the surface.

>> No.16335026

>>16335002
Ok, well there are 5 heroine routes, each one is maybe ~1/2 the length of the total common route, and after that there's even more content. So a fair bit longer to go, I remember there was a guy in DJT who read Rewrite for several hours every day for a year and a month and had a small existential crisis when it ended because he'd devoted his life to it for so long.
Kotori best girl.

>> No.16335053

スヌヲラテチナメ

>> No.16335095

>>16333398
That's what I read over wikipedia but there does seem to be a lot more characters than just the 4 in ケルピー in this case.

So all that's left is to wait for better scans or wait for the word to somehow reappear sometime later in the story.

「ケルピー」って読み方は知ってるけど、ここで合わないと思うよ

>> No.16335217

I organized a katakana chart for maximum confusion.

ホカケクワウユトヒ
ネオテラフアヱヤセ
ヰサチヲタヘエキモ
 リナヌスハニヨミ
ンソメ イムロコ 
シツノレルマ
(use a non-proportional font)

>> No.16335822
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16335822

もしあしたがことしのさいごのひではなく

せかいのさいごのひだとしたら

あのんは

なにをしてすごしますか?

>> No.16335932

>>16335822
可愛くて小さな女の子を見つけて目茶苦茶犯す

>> No.16336037

>>16335822
たぶん、僕の嫁ととんでもなくつまらなく平凡な日を過ごすと思うよ。

おいしいものを食べたり、セックスしたり、好きなアニメを見たり、森の中でピックニックをしたり、最後の絵を描いたり・・・そんなもんかな

imoutoは?

>>16335932
さすが四ちゃん

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16336102

>>16336037
おんせんでふやけたい

>> No.16336166

we are dying
slowly dying

>> No.16336169

>>16336166
10th page. People don't want to post as it might die soon.

We're 4 threads away from being knocked off the board, so it should only be a few hours until we're fresh and lively again.

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16336222

>>16336166
なんかそういうむかしのアニメのセリフあったんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

あえてググらない

けんさくより、きおくがだいじだからね

>「なんたらかんたらは、ゆるやかに死んでゆくのとなんのかわりもない」

みたいな、イケメンのセリフだったきがする

なんのアニメかおもいだせるあのんいる?

>> No.16336296

When creating Man'yōgana, why didn't the monks just make a character for each consonant, rather than making a character for each combination of consonant and vowel?

>> No.16336307

>>16336296
because single consonants other than 'n' aren't used in the japanese language

>> No.16336312

日本語は難しいですね

>> No.16336322

>>16336307
But it would reduce the character count from 46 to 14. People could've just combined the character for the specific consonant and then the vowel

>> No.16336334

>>16336322
>People could've just combined the character for the specific consonant and then the vowel

You should learn Korean then, Hangul does exactly that

>> No.16336341

750ポストを超えたど
すごーい

>> No.16336433

I hope all DJT EOPs stay here.

>> No.16336435

>>16336334
>gooks
LOL

>> No.16336681

>>16331036
>>16331100
>>16331137
>>16331431
>>16331471
>>16331490
>>16331522
>>16331586
>>16331608
>>16331677
>>16331699
>>16331791
>>16331821
Thanks for the discussion, everyone. I'm not really at absolute zero knowledge tho lol I can pass N5 as of now plan to take it next July, but I'll get to studying productively to try and finish N1 in 2 years.

>>16332385
keep me posted desu

>> No.16337356

>>16330850
からの is a (often used somewhat meanspritedly)
which I'll roughly translates to being "and?" as I cant think up anything better atm.
it's phrase which is often comedians use to urge on their co-comedians to continue in case of a joke missing the mark, where they pretend to think the joke isn't done yet and go "and?" forcing.the co-comedian into a situation where they have to think up a way to save the joke on the spot. sometimes it gets used multiple times in a row
It's not only used used by comedians or jokes but that's where it originates from. for the comic you posted you can safely just take the "and?" meaning

>> No.16337409

>>16336312
すべての言語は難しいよ語学って長い道のり

>> No.16337611
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16337611

おはようおにいちゃん

きょうはいちねんでもっともいそがしいひ

おおみそかだよ

>> No.16337651

>>16337611
で、そのために早起きしたのか?

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16337702

This thread has been in the last slot on page 10 for a few hours now. It just won't die.

>> No.16337713

>>16337702
Welcome to /jp/.

>> No.16337720

Most common reading for 某?

>> No.16337732
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16337732

>>16337651
いまもち米を浸水したとこ

ごぜんちゅうは餅つきだよ

こーゆーの
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08gZPIUEMZ8

>> No.16337739

>>16337720
That's not how readings work.

>> No.16337745

かんがえられうること

>> No.16337748

>>16337720
From what I've seen, ぼう.

>> No.16337760

>>16337720
>>16337748
「なにがし」もおおいんじゃないかなあとおもうよ

>> No.16337793

>>16337760
when someone posts on 4chan and ends all their posts in んじゃないかなあとおもうよ

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