Touhou Gameplay Thread! Theme is final bosses: Who is your favorite and why? Previous >>16219151

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Anonymous Sun, Dec 18, 2016 20:36:23 No.16280804 [Reply] [Original]

Touhou Gameplay Thread!
Theme is final bosses:
Who is your favorite and why?
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>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 18, 2016 20:39:46 No.16280827 File: 490 KB, 639x479, MariA.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MarisaA LNB improvement. My favorite final boss is Kanako purely for DVoWG, but Byakuren's very close behind.

Anonymous Sun, Dec 18, 2016 21:31:38 No.16281100
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Managed to get that 1cc on GFW that I've been whining about, right after the last thread archived. Close to getting my second TD 1cc because TD is a relatively easy game (on Normal at least), will update 1cc chart when I get that.

My favorite final boss has to be Utsuho. The music and spellcards just feel huge, I cannot fight the boss without sweating bullets even if I have a huge surplus of lives.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 18, 2016 21:43:53 No.16281152 Eiki, for a "standard" game I'd say Remilia.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 18, 2016 23:40:29 No.16281577 >>16280827 its vowg not dvowg you autist

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 18, 2016 23:48:12 No.16281596 Nuclear Fusion, I still can't beat utsuho on easy though. Been playing some of the pc-98 games, I'm surprised no one really talks about them as much. Besides Yuuka, no one seems to give a shit about them at all.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 00:27:35 No.16281734
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>>16281596
I like the PC-98 games well enough, though only Mystic Square breaks the top five for me. They were the first Touhou games I played and Mima has just about always been my favorite character because of it, even before I knew wanting Mima to return was a meme.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 00:29:55 No.16281744 >>16281577 Add something useful to the conversation instead of being a retard. Perhaps post a score, or something.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 00:32:23 No.16281751
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Character wise, Yuyuko but gameplay wise it has to be Utsuho. Her spells are incredible fun to dodge, yet I always feel on edge and she has the best special projectile and music in the series.

>>16281100
Way to go anon, I have yet to get 1cc in GFW.

>>16281596
Frankly I have been thinking of giving them a try, but they seem like a chore to set up

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 00:33:47 No.16281754 >>16281751 Honestly it's not a chore at all, or didn't seem to be for me at least. I just downloaded a pack that had the games with an emulator and it was all preconfigured to go as soon as I opened it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 00:37:17 No.16281767 File: 142 KB, 1475x783, progress.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How's everyone been doing, anyway?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 00:46:02 No.16281790 >>16281744 >post a score basically every post in this thread is not useful to the ``conversation'', then

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 01:02:22 No.16281839 >>16281790 This thread is about Touhou gameplay achievements and the like, not about whining over the correct acronyms for spellcard names. Take that stuff elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 01:18:29 No.16281868 File: 24 KB, 400x528, Touhou git gud Project.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16281767 Great, I'm aiming to clear LoLK's extra soon.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 01:28:09 No.16281908
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Got a big new monitor that can rotate vertically recently and wanted to try playing with THRotator, but the link to the mod on touhouwiki is a 404 nowadays. Was wondering if anyone here had a spare archive of theirs? I can't find another anywhere else with google so far.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 01:33:15 No.16281927 >>16280804 Remilia has amazing spellcards. Vampire Illusion, Scarlet Meister, and Scarlet Gensokyo are great.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 04:30:45 No.16282457
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So I tried to 1cc IN.
Even with some choking, I did really well, but Reisen ended my run.

My main problem with IN is Marisa and Reisen. After that, then I'll worry about Eirin and if I should even dare to try 6B.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 04:40:39 No.16282494 >>16282457 Well, you don't really need to 1cc final A to get B and some say B is easier than A so there is that.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 06:09:06 No.16282775

>>16281908
I've had my monitor for like a year now and I didn't think to try this. It's a thin bezel I bought so I could do multiple displays in the future. I'll give it a go.

So it looks like that site has just moved because the link on the homepage was changed. Wayback machine shows:
http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/~coolier2/ as the homepage.
Going there it looks like the file list was moved to here:
http://coolier.dip.jp/th_up4/

Finally searching for throtator yields 3 files:
http://coolier.dip.jp/th_up4/index.php?andor=and&sword=throtator&mode=ret

It looks like there's an updated version uploaded this year th4_6424.zip as well as the old version that was linked on touhouwiki, th4_4631.zip

Updated?:
http://coolier.dip.jp/th_up4/index.php?id=6424

Old:
http://coolier.dip.jp/th_up4/index.php?id=4631

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 06:19:36 No.16282803

>>16280804
My favorite character who is also a final boss is Utsuho. Great design, cool theme and SA is overall my favorite game.
But my favorite character AS final boss is Junko. She's the first final boss who actually looks menacing, has a legitimate reason to start the incident and is willing to use danmaku only to defeat you. Fuck the haters, I'm glad her fight is the way it is, even if it's tough as hell, instead of generic Touhou finalboss number whatever.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 06:46:57 No.16282879 >>16282775 I'm mistaken, the newer file looks like it's a THRotator config for LoLK. I mirrored them here THRotator http://ran.2hu.moe/cgjzlx.zip TH15 config http://ran.2hu.moe/fiutwf.zip TH13 config http://ran.2hu.moe/vrmucn.txt

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 07:44:56 No.16283015 Fuck DDC. I can win it easily if I can just keep my bombs until I run out of them, but there's always some shit (Benben you fucker) that messes this shit up.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 07:51:57 No.16283032 >>16280804 >Who is your favorite and why? Yumeko. Because unlike most Touhou fights, It's really fast paced and the music is amazing.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 08:04:36 No.16283062
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Got my first lunatic 1cc yesterday, tried doing some more normal clears (including my first pc98) today. Pretty happy about this, don't know how pcb is going to be in comparison.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 08:10:12 No.16283079 >>16283015 If Benben is a problem then why not leave that bewitched weapon at home champ

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 09:45:50 No.16283375

>>16283015
Its funny you mentioned that, i was playing DDC because i kept losing in EoSD and its way easier than i expected. I could get to stage 5 pretty consistently before using a continue. Fuck stage 5, its a way harder, i thought stage 4 was the usually difficulty jump.

>>16283079
Does that actually make a difference? I used marissa a and she wrecks bosses

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 10:24:24 No.16283490 >>16283375 MarisaA is fucking ass dude, based shots in this game are ReimuA, SakuyaA and MarisaB, but MarisaB might not be that strong on lower difficulties and can't really milk lives with 0 knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 10:47:05 No.16283577 >>16283490 Are you sure man? Im only playing on normal and still learning the stages but so far this is the first time o prefer marisa over reimu

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 10:55:13 No.16283599
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>>16282879
>>16282775
Oh shit, thanks for delivering! Got it working, too, though I can't take a great screenshot of it. Thanks for going through the effort to dig up these files!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 11:00:16 No.16283626 >>16283599 You motivated me and I also want to try it, seems cool. Can someone with an account on the wiki update the link?

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 11:01:55 No.16283633

>>16283577
Yes, I'm quite sure, the gohei for ReimuA might confuse you a bit, but it's very powerful if you keep it centered on the boss. SakuyaA has a shield bomb which basically gives you two free PoCs, and her damage is very strong. MarisaA only has strong damage up close and a powerful bomb, but the flamethrower is more of a burden on some sections.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 11:54:30 No.16283817 >>16283577 Not him, but those are the good shots. Hell, I''m a scrub but SakuyaA carried my ass and gave me a hard modo 1cc in my first fucking try, she is that good.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 12:04:25 No.16283863 >>16283599 What did you use to decompress the archives without getting mojibake filenames? Does't look like gui versions of either winrar or 7zip support shift-JIS encoded filenames.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 12:51:37 No.16284130 File: 244 KB, 385x310, fun.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man I love getting squished by Moon Hecatia's moons everytime I see them! Hecatia must be the most fun extra right? I'm having such a great time getting my ass handed to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 14:01:04 No.16284353 >>16284130 Just use Reisen. It worked for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 14:56:20 No.16284534 File: 99 KB, 620x559, 1453433973582.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I didn't play danmaku games for a week because my graphic card blew up and I'm getting nuts. Who would thought that Chinese epilepsy simulators would be so addictive.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 15:00:52 No.16284547 >>16284534 How did your graphics card blow up?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 15:10:33 No.16284584 >>16284547 Not literally speaking of course.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 17:58:37 No.16285233

>>16282457

I'm having the same problem, Marisa and Reisen really screw me up, especially Marisa because the star projectiles make it hard for me to concentrate for some reason. People have told me IN is the easiest game but I feel like it's definitely harder than PCB, EoSD, and LLS at least.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 18:43:51 No.16285368

>>16285233
Opinions seem to differ a lot about the games. Due to the different systems between them, it can effect the way different players play differently. For me, my current 1ccs are PCB, IN, TD and DDC. PCB and IN are pretty lenient with giving you bombs, TD seems lower bullet density in general(though harsher on resource collecting), DDC has the rewarding collection system if you're good at it, and IN is very lenient for deathbombing. Since I tend to be conservative with my bombs, tend to go for the deathbomb, and am good at the collection system in DDC it makes sense for me, personally, why those would be the first games for me to beat(PCB was probably just due to a lot of practice, then bombspamming on Yuyuko). I often hear people say that EoSD and MoF are the easiest games, but this was never true for me. The best way to find which games are easiest/hardest for you is probably to play them yourself.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 19:53:59 No.16285607

>>16280804
I'm trying to play pc-98 games with the Anex86 emulator, but it's so fucking buggy. I can't see shit when I'm fighting yuuka because shit is bugging on and off screen at a ridiculous rate. Is there some way to fix this? Is it supposed to be like this? Are there better pc-98 emulators?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 19:56:14 No.16285616 >>16285607 T98-Next. Anex is known for being bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 19:58:16 No.16285625 >>16285607 You could try T98-Next. I used it for my PC-98 playthroughs and never had a problem with it (even through Wine). Neko Project II gets good reviews, but I've never used it personally.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 19:58:23 No.16285626 >>16285607 https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=6549.0 I think this covers everything

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 20:04:17 No.16285643 >>16285616 >>16285625 >>16285626 Thanks. I was pretty sure Zun hadn't made some crazy spellcard that disappeared half the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 20:43:48 No.16285784 What determines whether Mokou drops point items at the end of Fujiyama Volcano? I captured the card but noticed that no point items spawned afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 21:29:16 No.16285929 How do I even attempt Flandre? Cranberry Trap takes some bombs and lives, Lavaetin just makes no sense, and I've never gotten beyond that.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 21:40:17 No.16285954

>>16285929
Sounds like your first Extra mode? Extra spells often have an increased complexity and focus on having to do specific motions when compared to the main game. For Cranberry Trap there's kind of a rhythm you get going for alternately dodging the aimed and non-aimed waves, but many people find it one of the more difficult ones. Laevateinn requires you to specifically circle around and follow Flandre while she does her thing, and is really easy if you watch a replay.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 21:40:41 No.16285957

>>16285929
If you really wanted to you could just look up a video of someone else doing it. Extra stage bosses in general have more gimmicky cards than normal. Usually once you know how they're done they require less skill than the rest of the game. Part of the fun is figuring how how they work though, try unorthodox approaches until something clicks.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 21:45:48 No.16285974 >>16285954 It's not my first Extra boss I've fought, but I've never beaten an Extra boss.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 22:04:12 No.16286032 >>16283062 Congrats!

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 22:27:38 No.16286098

After repeatedly failing to beat DDC, on my first 1cc(Marisa B) of it I finished with 4 extra lives.

Fucking Mallet: You Grow Bigger

Oh well, still pretty happy. Marisa B was fun. I plan on beating it with Reimu B next and then seeing just how OP Sakuya A is.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 22:54:22 No.16286178
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I almost got that second 1cc on TD (only lost because I wasn't bombing).

Then I realized you get extra trance by being pixels within the boss's hitbox and firing unfocused.

Now I can't get past Stage 2 because I feel a deep shame for not trying to abuse this.

Also none of the other TD shottypes feel nearly as good as Youmu's, so I'm just not feeling as fulfilled in general playing. Youmu's shottype is pure sex in this game.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 23:04:52 No.16286215

>>16286178
>Also none of the other TD shottypes feel nearly as good as Youmu's, so I'm just not feeling as fulfilled in general playing. Youmu's shottype is pure sex in this game.

Honestly I liked Reimu's the most. I only tried Youmu's shot type once and I hated it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 19, 2016 23:32:53 No.16286278 >>16286178 Youmu is not as good as I'd like, it's a bit too close range for my routing. Reimu can destroy really quickly, making her a pretty nice shottype to use. Clownpiss strats, anyone have them?

Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 00:05:03 No.16286373

>>16280804
So I got into touhou a few months back, and I've been trying to 1cc every game with at least one character on normal. I've gotten up to pofv and I think I understand the basics, but does anyone have any tips for messing with the AI? Like is it better to spam 2 and 3 charge attacks, or try to save up for a full charge? Also, who would be the "easiest" character to play as? Thanks for any help.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 00:15:46 No.16286418 >>16285929 Stay in the middle of the screen for the start of cranberry trap, then slowly move towards the bottom and micro dodge like hell. I can't stress this enough, if you start the spell card at the bottom of the screen you are FUCKED.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 00:28:19 No.16286469
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>>16284353
Who said I'm not. I'll try and clear it with everyone though
>>16285368
>I often hear people say that EoSD and MoF are the easiest games
I have never heard anyone say that EoSD is one of the easiest.
>>16283062
Woah man, I would be totally hyped if it was my first lunatic 1cc, congrats!
>>16286178
I tried Youmu once and I hated her, then I figured her ending would be the most interesting so I ended up clearing the game with her too, and finding her fun to use as well, but every shottype in TD is garbage in some way or another.
>>16286373
Don't like phantasmagoria, but I hear that Aya completely destroys the AI

Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 00:30:24 No.16286477

>>16286373
Only level 2, level 1, and regular shot. Level 3/4 is a waste since you can despawn bosses on your side by getting to 100k/300k/500k combo. Try to reflect lots of bullets for more charge and score, although it can give you more bullets to dodge too which can make things more difficult.

Regarding the AI, they generally die around the same time since they're on a timer for death depending on difficulty/stage/round.

Easiest characters are probably Reimu and Cirno. (assuming you don't count Aya/Medicine as they bug the AI and kill it way before they should die). Really none of them are particularly tricky, except for Sakuya/Tewi and to a lesser extent Youmu/Komachi.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 00:34:57 No.16286496 How good do I have to be to attempt Extra stages? Should I be able to 1cc Normal, or beat Lunatic?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 00:41:35 No.16286510 >>16286496 1cc normal is mandatory since is needed to unlock it, I would say beat hard mode first.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 01:10:15 No.16286576 >>16286496 >>16286510 I share the opposite opinion. I think if you can 1cc Hards, beating Extras won't feel nearly as rewarding. I think they're definitely doable if you can squeeze out Normal 1ccs, but quite difficult at that stage.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 02:26:33 No.16286815 >>16286496 some Extras need a Normal 1cc to unlock already, so I'd say it's a good standard. Not LoLK, however, I'd recommend being at least Hard 1cc level. I don't know why ZUN thought it was okay to have that be unlocked through Easy mode.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 05:24:37 No.16287215 >>16285784 it depends on your cancel, if your cancel is too big there are too many objects on screen so the items don't spawn

Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 06:22:15 No.16287393

I swear to god I cannot get PoFV to run without it crashing on startup. I downloaded the version from Moriya Shrine and tried all the tricks like putting it in Program Files and setting Vista SP2 compatibility mode, but it still won't run. I'm on W10 btw.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 07:26:59 No.16287643

>>16286477
OK, thanks for this tips, but does anyone know a video or article that elaborates on these mechanics a bit more? Because I can't understand how the combos work, and for "reflecting bullets", I just shoot the shit out of everything and hope the AI dies.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 07:38:36 No.16287689 >>16287643 Lol forget my request, I literally just found a good article right after I asked for one. Sorry for being a needy bitch!

Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 07:42:33 No.16287702

>>16287643
By combo I meant spell point. It goes back down to 0 if the white bar below your spell point/combo counter empties. If you get it to 999,990 you'll get lots of points from reflections.

For reflecting lots of bullets you can just try and wait to get as many faries on the screen as possible before shooting for a big chain reaction. Being unfocused can help with that as it causes more faries to spawn.

This stuff is not really needed for a 1cc but it's nice to know.

As for an article, the wiki gameplay article is helpful, although certainly not comprehensive.

>>16287689
oh ok

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 08:01:15 No.16287754 File: 501 KB, 640x480, th11_10 SA 1cc MarisaC Normal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Surprise clears always make me happy

Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 12:22:01 No.16288660

>>16286496
Extra stages difficulty wise lie between normal and hard mode clears, I'd say. On games with easier hard modes like 6-8 it's about the same as hard. If you're on those games you should beat hard but otherwise if you can beat normal you should be fine to attempt the extra.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 13:26:06 No.16288907

>>16280827
>My favorite final boss is Kanako purely for DVoWG
I can see why you think that. I can only speak for Normal mode, but to me that spell's a very "pure" danmaku experience. I can't describe it, but there's something about the way it keeps you constantly on the move, and the way the bullets form patterns that are random but still create what feels like familiar situations.
It's almost trance-like, and definitely my favourite final spell card.

>>16286178
>I feel a deep shame for not trying to abuse this
Are you're the same person who has been playing GFW? I just hope you're not burning yourself out setting these lofty goals and punishing yourself when you don't meet them.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 20, 2016 14:33:56 No.16289114

>>16286215
>>16286278
>>16286469
I guess I just have weird tastes if it's not that popular, then. Her melee attack is the most satisfying thing I've ever used in the franchise.

>>16288907
>Are you're the same person who has been playing GFW?
I am. I've always set lofty goals for myself. My first SA 1cc was "you have to NMNB the first four stages so you'll have enough lives to survive the last two," my Pointdevice LoLK run was a No Bomb run until I fell so far below max power that it became seemingly impossible to beat a card without bombing fuck Clownpiece, etc.

If I haven't gotten burned out by now, I don't think I will. I just want to make sure I'm always challenged so I can try to continue building skill, that way when I go to Hard mode it doesn't completely drain my confidence due to the difficulty jump.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 06:59:18 No.16292151 File: 25 KB, 477x273, howtoreadthis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What the heck am I doing? How do I make the window larger, and how do I slow the game down?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 08:21:42 No.16292476 Is there no limit to how many replays you can have if you rename them to thxx_udyyyy?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 08:45:17 No.16292561 >>16292151 Or how about you tell us which game is this?

Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 08:52:36 No.16292581

>>16288907
>I can only speak for Normal mode, but to me that spell's a very "pure" danmaku experience.
It gets even better on later difficulties. There's a reason there is a semi-common challenge of flawlessly timing out VoWG Lunatic; it's lots of intense reading, macro and micro movement constantly without ever letting up, and overall very zen. Plus it's pretty as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 09:37:39 No.16292709 >>16292561 It's an emulator for the retro Touhou games. T-98-NEXT.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 09:44:45 No.16292737 >>16292151 I have no idea what is that but change your locale and learn japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 09:45:49 No.16292741 >>16292151 There's an english translated version of this which works just fine, get it instead, or run jap applocale and press buttons until it works

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 09:49:59 No.16292763 >>16292709 You can fix the mojibake with applocale or changing your locale to jp, but if you can't read moonrunes I doubt it would help much.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 17:13:06 No.16294776 File: 105 KB, 640x400, anex86_5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just got my very first 1CC right after I finished my morning (4pm) coffee.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 17:35:23 No.16294888 >>16292151 You just go to disc tab and hit "new" next to one of the "HD DRIVE" boxes then select the rom. Then hit the power button on the top right.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 18:17:02 No.16295065 >>16294776 Congratulations on your first 1cc!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 18:23:36 No.16295085 Am I a fucking loser for only playing on normal?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 18:26:18 No.16295093 >>16295085 No. It's just a fucking videogame, dude.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 18:28:08 No.16295100 >>16295085 No it's perfectly fine, almost everyone only played on normal at some point, and it's not like you get extra content for beating the games on a higher difficulty anyways.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 18:28:12 No.16295101

>>16295085
That's incredibly subjective. I've only cleared 6, 7, 8, and 10 on hard. 11 is too hard for me to clear on hard. I don't like 12 or 13 enough to clear them on hard, and 14 I have not even attempted yet.

So to me no, unless you don't do anything other than 1cc normal. If you haven't beaten any extra stages either then that is pretty lame.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 18:43:43 No.16295176 >>16295101 Extras are overrated, had a few lunatics before I even bothered to clear any extras. Tried them when I was an even bigger shitter and was disappointed.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 18:45:32 No.16295183 >>16295085 I can't 1CC SA on easy, so you're better than me.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 19:27:35 No.16295343 >>16295176 >overrated I've never played way I thought just straight up wasn't fun besides UFO's extra. Why don't you like them?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 19:45:49 No.16295409 >>16294776 Congrats man!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 19:48:39 No.16295415 Regarding Mamizou, what should I do for each of the ten duels? The only one I can capture is Avian Transformation, and that's rather rare.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 19:49:13 No.16295418 >>16295343 Too static, generally only one or two patterns that require some form of dodging that isn't free, timeouts can be hard but again, memo. I don't particulary enjoy that style of play.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 21:02:57 No.16295695 How many games do you think ZUN plans on making?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 22:35:46 No.16296147 File: 11 KB, 400x1080, Progress.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Having to fight Yuyuko's Ink Black attack with no bombs or lives along with 30% Reflowering was the most intense moment of my Touhou career.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 21, 2016 22:38:55 No.16296163 >>16295085 I can't even finish a single game on easy. I suck so badly.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 08:31:23 No.16297974 >>16295695 >ZUN >plans

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 11:18:46 No.16298455 How do I make a webm of my replays?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 13:36:38 No.16299024 >>16298455 fraps/obs + webm for retards / ffmpeg

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 18:03:22 No.16300077 anyone wanna chitchat about len'en in here? I figure I could talk about it on the shmup general on /vg/ but they didn't seem very cool with 2hu last time I was there.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 18:24:25 No.16300156 Should I spam the fuck out of my spells or wait for the gauge to get to level 4?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 18:43:33 No.16300230 >>16295695 I honestly think he'll keep making them until he dies.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 19:14:10 No.16300392 >>16300156 I usually try to wait to use level 2s until I have enough for a level 3 or so to be safe, but sometimes there are too many bullets so you gotta use them earlier to survive.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 20:36:18 No.16300681
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All this talk about PoFV made me want to play it again.

3 minutes into Shikieiki's first fight and I still couldn't land a single fucking hit. Maybe I'll try to no death Lunatic with a broken character next time.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 20:40:04 No.16300689

>>16300156

Generally I don't use level 4 spells much other than to sometimes cancel the enemy's level 4 spell because the ai is really good at killing them which in turn gives them a free powerup. It's safer in the later levels just to play defensive with your spells, use a level 2 whenever you're in a tight spot, and use a level 4 if they use a level 4 and you don't feel confident in being able to kill it. Exception is obviously if you get the pickup that gives you full meter, then just use the highest level spell you have before you grab it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 20:46:27 No.16300704 >>16300681 That's because normally the AI has a timer, so they intentionally hit bullets to try to die at a specific time, Stage 9 Round 1 does not have this timer, you can only kill her by walling or using a laser.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 20:52:09 No.16300725 >>16300704 I've gotten a hit on round 1 several times in the past with Reimu, Aya and Medicine. I was hoping I could do the same with Marisa's lasers. Oh well, I'd be dead either way.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 22, 2016 21:11:05 No.16300782 >>16300725 Shots that can hit on Round 1 are the ones you mentioned + Marisa and Eiki. But you need to be pretty damn lucky with those.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 01:01:31 No.16301358 >>16300077 Len'en is not 2hu though.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 01:10:14 No.16301372 >>16301358 It was worth a shot. Anyways, I swear, every time I move over from a modern windows game to one of the earlier ones, I end up getting shot by stray bullets during the stage portions. Happen to anyone else? Maybe I'm just shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 01:14:09 No.16301382 >>16301372 I used to until I started using vpatch for the older games. Now my only problem is deathbomb timing differences. It will happen until you get used to switch from classic era to modern era games more often

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 01:39:24 No.16301444 >>16301382 Is there a difference between the two eras in terms of shot behavior? I recall hearing MoF forward uses a different engine, but I'm not sure that would result in a perceivable difference.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 03:27:48 No.16301699 >>16300681 Person who sucks at PoFV here. How did you get that many extends?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 03:40:03 No.16301732 >>16301699 Extends in PoFV are tied to score, similar to how EoSD and MoF extends work. You can get a maximum of 5 extra lives in story mode, capping at 90 million. I died twice in that particular run, both times to Eiki.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 04:38:42 No.16301841 File: 17 KB, 1287x82, Isurelovethisglitch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is this glitch, and why does it always happen when I defeat Mai first in MS?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 05:20:41 No.16301921 >>16285954 >>16285974 for lavatein during the non straight slashes you can cheese it and move just beneath her at the top instead of going through the bullets

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 06:29:07 No.16302156

Ive got no idea whats happening in PoFV. So i get i have to charge up my spell and i get charge by shooting stuff. My spells have a level that goes up somehow. But sometimes when the ai uses a spell il counterspell withouthitting a button,or il use one without charging.

Whats the general strategy besides hit stuff, dont get hit?

Also i got ending 1 with reimu but i think it was a bad end because i continued on shiki.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 06:38:04 No.16302188

>>16302156

You still get good endings even if you continue in PoFV.

And you're not really counterspelling automatically it's just that at certain point thresholds you get a free spell that goes off automatically.

As for more general stuff you should probably just read the wiki.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 07:05:40 No.16302261 >>16302188 Woo! I got my first 1cc I dont know if it counts though. Does PoFV really count for a 1cc since its so different than the others?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 07:08:28 No.16302268 touhou 16 when?

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 07:08:50 No.16302271
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Can't tell if I've gotten really bad at pofv (implying I was ever any good in the first place) or if it's just luckshit. Probably the former.

>>16302261
Congrats.
It counts. So long as you aren't using Aya or Medicine.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 07:10:29 No.16302273 >>16302271 Nah, i was playing shiki. I wanted to see how her story went. Is the extra mode just like a sudden deatg with everyone?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 07:12:58 No.16302283 >>16302273 Yeah. I don't know why you would ever want to play the extra (aside from unlocking characters) when the main game exists though.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 07:14:54 No.16302291 >>16302271 Stage 9 Reimu is the hardest windows boss imo. You just get some really bullshit combinations thrown at you at times, and a l2 doesn't counter her l2, compared to most characters.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 07:15:39 No.16302297 >>16302283 Thats weird. I know its a totally different type of game but i was sort of hoping for like an extra level with a secret boss

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 07:17:23 No.16302303 >>16302291 She was kind of a bitch. the yinyang balls are a lain in the ass to deal with especially if lilywhite shows up, and she always shows up during a spell card

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 12:45:44 No.16303283

>>16280804
I was thinking about how I'm improving in Touhou, and then it hit me: The sudden realization that most of my 1CCs consists in stacking lives and bombing on convenient parts. Not spamming bombs though, but still. I'm not saying that doing these are wrong, but whenever I try to play without relying on that stuff too much, I die a fuckton.

I can 1CC every game on hard except LoLK, SA and UFO. Before trying harder to beat those games, I was pondering if it would be better to stick to normal mode, and practice beating it without bombing. I feel somewhat sad when i have a 20%~ rate of spell captures in stage 5 and 6.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 13:01:26 No.16303326 >>16303283 >SA Same here, man. I've only gotten to Okuu once on hard. Fucking Orin.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 13:05:22 No.16303337
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>>16303326
I'll admit that right now my focus is 1CCing UFO, Also because remembering those weeks of suffering brought to me by Hell's Traffic Accident, I just can't bring myself to face that shit again.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 13:27:59 No.16303396

>>16287393
Here are some hints:
1) try running it without compatability mode. On my computer (w10) it doesnt run at all with vista compat.
2) get d3d8 to d3d9 converter. Modern versions of directx tend to have better dx9 support compared to dx8. I use enbconverter.
3) japanese locale. The game might crash because of invalid locale. I recomend downloading thcrap, which is an universal translation patcher, but it also patches the games to use unicode instead of shiftjis, which fixes locale related issues. It might be a bit difficult to set up, tho. Alternatively you can change your system encoding to sjis (which is kinda annoying, since it might break other programs, and it requires restart) or install applocale.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 13:37:37 No.16303441 >make it to Miko's last spell on TD >die >rage continue >realize I could have just streamed vertically the hole thing >time it out doing this I don't think I wanna play TD ever again. Also I was quoting myself.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 14:05:26 No.16303548 >>16303441 Normally I'd encourage you to try again, but TD isn't the best of games, so... yeah...

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 14:19:30 No.16303595 File: 6 KB, 400x440, 1472444834607.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's next for me? I'm thinking about PCB's extra, I don't dig the newer games that much.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 14:27:27 No.16303615 File: 146 KB, 850x768, __flandre_scarlet_touhou_drawn_by_kisa_k_isa__sample-d201b18e0f1d04f10ad7cfe911faee9b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16303595

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 14:34:31 No.16303632 >>16302273 You had a problem to 1cc PoFV but you have unlocked Shiki? I'm confused.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 14:35:01 No.16303637 >>16303615 Isn't EoSD's extra one of the toughest ones?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 14:42:44 No.16303665 >>16303637 Personally, I haven't cleared it but it doesn't look harder than the ones you have cleared. That would be something nice to discuss as well, extra stages tiers of difficulty I mean.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 14:45:52 No.16303670

>>16303441
I remember trying TD Hard, something I had never done before. I die, but I want to continue, to see the new versions of the spellcards. I reach Miko's final spell, which I had never captured on Normal.
MFW I capture this same spell on Hard on my first try. But I was mad anyway, not because I had done it on a non-1cc. Because I know that, when I'll do my 1cc on Hard, I'll fuck up.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 15:00:19 No.16303714
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>>16303441
ok so today is one of those days.
I just did hard modo PCB and run out of resources mid battle against Yuyuko. Dodged everything up to her time out final spell and before it was going to finish one of those motherfucking red butterflies hit me.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 15:21:04 No.16303778 >>16303632 The one i downloaded has everyone unlocked and i dont knlw how to reset it. I was just fuckin around, didnt expect to 1cc

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 15:24:53 No.16303785

>>16303637
I actually find EoSD EX really doable. I struggled a lot my first time, but now I can clear it without problems. MY tier is the following.
Easy: Ran<Suwako<Mokou
Medium: Flandre<Yukari<Raiko<Mamizou
Hard: Nue<Koishi<Hecatia. GFW Marisa is somewhere here.
Yeah, I know, I put Nue in Hard, but for some reason I seriously can't beat her.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 15:45:09 No.16303891 >>16303778¨ >i dont knlw how to reset it Delete score file maybe? Shiki is extra character so in order to unlock you need clear Komachi's extra first.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 15:48:06 No.16303898 >>16303778 Delete score file maybe? Shiki is extra character so in order to unlock her you need clear Komachi's extra first.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 16:10:46 No.16304012 So like, you people think a shitty DELL laptop will run 2hu games fine ? I could just download it and try, but hey, better if I get an opinion first.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 16:22:22 No.16304070 >>16304012 It should be fine but playing Shmups on laptop keyboard is pretty meh.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 16:23:51 No.16304077 >>16304012 Yeah, take it from someone that plays on a meme laptop branded RCA.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 16:23:51 No.16304078

>>16304012
Probably, Touhou doesn't need much power. The wiki has the exact requirements though. My main concern would be the very idea of playing on a laptop: never found it comfortable, I prefer a separate keyboard instead of keeping my hands on heated hardware.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 16:38:19 No.16304133 [DELETED]

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>>16304070
>>16304078
I see. I don't really know how Touhou works gameplay wise that much, but seeing how this is my only option, I'll have to make do with what I have.
>>16304077
Noted, nice dubs as well.

Now, onto more important things, where do I get the games to beging with. I was thinking about starting with shrinemaiden.org or checking the archives for the earliest TGT, but I'm clueless.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 16:47:45 No.16304168 >>16304133 Moriya Shrine. That's a good place to get other stuff as well like officia mangas, other official stuff, fan games, etc. There is a torrent on nyaa with all the games as well

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 16:51:57 No.16304191 >>16304168 Thanks for the info, I'll give these a try. Truth be told I already played PoFV once upon a time, but that was long ago and I don't actually remember where I got it from.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 16:55:28 No.16304205 >>16304191 Depending on where you download them you'll want to check the records to make sure there's not already stuff on the save file, if there is just delete the score file. When I got all the games some of them even had extra unlocked already.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 17:24:20 No.16304306
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Consider the following:
>EoSD is only good for the basics, its mechanics are outdated
>PCB, IN and SA are the only great Touhou games
>PoFV is baka
>MoF could have been one of the best games if it had been more balanced and didn't have things like grazing taken away. Still a very fun game.
>UFO is a good game with a fun gimmick
>Nobody gives a shit about 13-15 and LoLK wouldn't be heard of if it didn't have an outrageous difficulty to justify this bang-your-head-against-a-wall-until-you-succeed PD mode

Quoting myself.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 17:50:27 No.16304391 >>16304306 These opinions (except for SA and IN as great) were so wrong, I was having a hard time deciding which was the worst. Then I read "UFO" and "fun gimmick" in the same sentence.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 17:54:21 No.16304412 >>16304306 MoF makes me want to kill myself every time I play it because of how boring and unforgiving the scoring system is and PoFV and LoLK are fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 17:56:53 No.16304425 File: 148 KB, 500x500, get_out.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16304306 So not only are you a crossie, but you have shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 18:03:30 No.16304444 >>16304425 >crossie cringe

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 18:30:31 No.16304557 >>16304391 >opinion >wrong Whew.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 18:37:24 No.16304589 >>16304557 Ok, I'll just call them "incredibly tasteless, but acceptable since they're just opinions". But come on, UFO? Fun gimmick? I could give you the "fun game", UFO has lots of factors that make it fun. The gimmick is NOT one of those.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 18:48:25 No.16304633 I 1CC'd EOSD normal the other day and I nearly 1CC'd UFO on normal today.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 18:59:06 No.16304671 >>16304633 Shot types?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 19:05:31 No.16304706 >>16304306 >its mechanics are outdated Not having a gimmick doesn't make something outdated. I don't hate gimmicks but being basic isn't a flaw.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 19:14:28 No.16304743 >>16304306 Seriously fuck off or don't post.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 19:38:32 No.16304831 >>16304306 Just because you say "quoting myself" doesn't excuse your misuse of the quote function.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 19:45:53 No.16304864
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Before Flan activated her last spell card I was able to do a lot of damage to her, making it last shorter. What just happened?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 20:02:00 No.16304942 >>16303898 Oh. Does that mean i cheated?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 20:02:02 No.16304943 >>16304864 Looking at my replay, I used a bomb just when "And then there were none" ended, guess I got lucky. Anyway I still had some bombs left after winning, it counts as a clear.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 20:58:46 No.16305137 File: 33 KB, 1208x921, Screenshot at 2016-12-23 18:57:07.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck you, Shinji! Byakuren's version of this attack is cooler!

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 21:00:39 No.16305144 *Shinki...

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 21:03:53 No.16305156 >>16305137 Asuka pls go

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 21:15:07 No.16305198 >>16304942 Technically no but you should unlock her properly.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 21:18:38 No.16305214 File: 3 KB, 142x121, plsforgivemeeeeee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw I can do MS just fine if I didn't die on really simple things

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 21:23:07 No.16305230 >>16305214 Yeah but who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 21:55:15 No.16305354 >>16305230 myself

Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 22:40:13 No.16305525

>>16304943
Actually, no, there is a known glitch where in the time frame that Flan switches cards but before she actually starts using her last one, where she is vulnerable to damage. You don't have to bomb or anything to damage her, you can just shoot her.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 23:09:43 No.16305618 >>16305525 oh, good to know.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 23:24:35 No.16305647 >>16304012 Yeah, my own computer is a shitty DELL laptop. If this dying 2009 piece of junk can run touhou, anything can.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 23:26:45 No.16305656 File: 2 KB, 492x35, Twohard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it even possible to beat SoEW's Extra?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 23, 2016 23:28:47 No.16305660 >>16305656 The problem is that you're using vertical movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpuRrOFKMlU

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 00:21:00 No.16305820
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Ah, well there's my first 1cc. Took me long enough.

Wasn't as close as I thought it would be. Had a life after Kaguya's final spell card. The aimed shots weren't so bad after I kept moving to the top/bottom of the screen to misdirect them.

That extra stage sure is something though. The past month or two I was on and off playing IN, I kept thinking "Damn these are some slow bullets." Don't really have that concern anymore.

Now then, I wonder what comes next? I was playing MoF too, but the shot types are really boring to me. I was thinking about running as Youmu in TD.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 01:29:19 No.16306007

>>16282457
Imo reisen is one of the easiest stage 5 bosses. The entire stage 5 i general is pretty easy since killing most of the things wipe parts of their danmaku with it.

I think praticing stage 5 is great for IN 1ccs. Ive been consistently going no bomb no death (or the occasional 1 bomb for tewi) stage 5 after practicing around 6 runs. Stage 4 well, for people thats still learning, bombs away. A lot of the spellcards are much tougher than reisens and even kaguyas imo.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 01:31:28 No.16306009 File: 98 KB, 639x479, IMG_2345.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 25 Oku soon boys

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 01:36:00 No.16306017

>>16282457
Reisen is really easy except for idling wave

What I did for her spellcards mostly involved moving backwards until she froze the bullets and then I moved forwards to have more room to go backwards. Her last spell card I would move backwards until I thought the bullet trajectory would let me pass through. After slipping through you can just find an empty spot in the rings and do it again.

Except for idling wave of course. That one just takes practice but I had a worse time with Marisa than her.

Her nonspells aren't that bad either. You just sit at the bottom of the screen and occasionally ask yourself if you need to tap left or right for a little moment of time.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 01:42:54 No.16306028 >>16304671 Homing Reimu for both. I'm too scared to attempt other shot types.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 01:50:30 No.16306044 >>16306028 Try either Sanae shot type for UFO. SanaeA has a different kind of homing shot while SanaeB has a slower AoE shot. In addition, both of them have much more powerful bombs than Fantasy Seal.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 03:49:31 No.16306270

>>16305820
I got on TD and I can do pretty fine with all the bosses. About the same guidelines I used in Imperishable Night, two lives max lost before the final stage.

And then Stage 6 hits and Miko kicks my ass.

I went into practice mode to play around on the stage and I got through all of her cards with no lives left.

Is there something I'm not noticing about her patterns? I'm having a hard time with her nonspells in particular.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 04:02:18 No.16306298 >>16301732 Better question; how do you get the score for those? I usually only get two extends per run.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 04:48:15 No.16306374
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>>16306009
Teach me the ways
>>16305820
Congratulations anon! IN was my first 1cc as well, what shot type?
>>16306270
Are tiny bullets a problem? Think of Miko's final spell like Kaguya's, you only need to stream it vertically.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 04:52:58 No.16306385

>>16306374
Those tiny bullets piss me off like nothing else.

They're small, there's a lot of them, and I think they blend some in with the background so I have trouble registering them.

>>16306374
Border Patrol, I think I'll try Remi for Final A. I accidentally unlocked Final B trying to get A open in Practice mode. I should really do it but I'm pretty sick of seeing Marisa throw stars everywhere, so maybe later.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 05:10:30 No.16306430

>>16306385
Oh I see, these bullets don't move about randomly. They're more predictable then.

That aside her first and sixth spells cards are a headache to deal with. I seem to find myself trapped in a cage of bullets with them. Just gonna have to bomb for now, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 05:13:34 No.16306438 File: 24 KB, 1199x907, Screenshot at 2016-12-24 03:09:08.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yay

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 05:41:14 No.16306494

>>16306298
Don't lose your spell point, maximize combos and play aggressively with your level 2 bomb. Try to hold back from bombing instantaneously because that will fully deplete your spell charge and avoid deathbombing as you'll lose out on the charge bonus from getting hit.

A lot of your score also depends on how quickly your opponent kills herself, so if you're using Aya or Medicine, you might have trouble reaching the last couple of extends for them to matter.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 06:16:37 No.16306581

>>16306270
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=42171
Here's a random try, nearly NMNB but walled myself at the last second because I'm stupid and don't play TD much. Maybe it'll give you some ideas.

Important, stay under Miko for speedkill when possible, as you'll see. Many of the patterns lend well to speedkilling. Also, many of the patterns involve boxing you in and it's best if you don't move all that much (outside of maybe following Miko).
- For the second card, the first two waves you follow through the gaps that open, and then you scoot over for the last one. It's just a trick and you should never die once you know it.
- For third card, follow Miko around closely while dragging Tojiko and Futo to direct them close to the same place, getting out of the way once they shoot but going right back in there when safe. They have no hitbox, and their bullets fire so slowly that they can be close to you when firing without much danger, so there's only pressure if you get pushed far away or take too long (because it gets denser). Knowing the arrow bullet hitboxes are only on the tip is important.
- Non 4: Dodge red knives more vertically and blue knives more horizontally.
- Final: The rule is to move upwards as little as possible when bullets are coming down. It means bullets above you start building a vertical pillar, and bullets behind you will start homing in at a steep angle, so you get walled. Humping Miko is the safest place, but because the screen freezes are timed and bullets stop falling during them, the strategy is to steadily move down until a freeze, and jump back to the top while no bullets are falling. As soon as the last phase starts there is a final screen freeze, after which you just slowly stream the bullets down the screen and jump back up when possible.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 06:35:02 No.16306617 So why are Ichirin and Unzan harder than the Shipgal?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 06:37:04 No.16306623 >>16306617 Ichirin and Unzan don't have an awful survival card and Ichirin's nons are way too easy compared to ghost.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 07:01:53 No.16306679

>>16306581
Thank you.

I think for the second card, I didn't notice this before but it looks like when the suns split, the one in the back appears to decelerate. I've been backing into them because I never noticed them hanging around behind me.

Third card is a joke now, I think that I've gotten to know it better.

As for the daggers, I can deal with the blue ones now, but the reds, I still have trouble with. I can't really tell the difference between the two sets either, aside from their point of origin.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 07:49:17 No.16306793

>>16306679
>it looks like when the suns split, the one in the back appears to decelerate
Yeah, all of it decelerates, which is why the timing for dodging the third wave is different from the first two.

>I can't really tell the difference between the two sets either, aside from their point of origin
It's a couple of minor differences that result in needing to dodge a bit differently. Like I said, that wave is mostly vertical dodging, which isn't something you might be used to.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 08:19:16 No.16306880 >>16306793 >which isn't something you might be used to. You're not wrong. I don't remember ever trying to strictly move vertically while dodging before. Just gonna keep timing out that nonspell and seeing how long I can go without dying.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 12:41:06 No.16307568
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So, how many lives/continues did ya'll use on your first playthroghs ?
I'm starting with PCB and I feel like a god just because I managed to beat Letty on Normal without losing a life ... in my third practice run.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 12:50:55 No.16307598 >>16307568 The first time I beat remilia I used the 3 continues and the extra lives. Now I can get to the 6th stage in hard without continuing, but can't win. Still, it amazes me how much I've improved.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 12:54:03 No.16307605 File: 21 KB, 300x234, Jesus Christ how horrifying.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16307598 I see. Guess I gotta update that, I died to Letty's 2nd spell, I'm a scrublord. This is gonna be pretty intense, can tell.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 13:44:34 No.16307766 >>16307605 Never Give Up!!

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 13:50:32 No.16307781 >>16307766 I-I got to Stage 3 with only 1 continue, that's something right ? I still managed to die horribly to Alice, but hey.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 15:57:48 No.16308101 >>16307568 Default lives, didn't use continues as I thought there's no point practicing stuff I can't even get to, got my first 1cc pretty quickly.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 16:02:47 No.16308119
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So out of curiosity I pressed to try fullscreen on PCB, my computer freaked out for a minute and now I can't launch the game anymore and keeps showing me this screen.
How much did I fuck up and how do I solve it other than reinstalling it ?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 16:24:35 No.16308177 >>16308119 I believe the error message is telling you you can't have two instances of the game open at the same time so make sure there's not already a process running.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 16:29:55 No.16308194 >>16308177 I guess it happened just as I thought. In my computer's little frakout I couldn't see clearly if the game properly closed itself, but the Task Manager doesn't show anything. Guess I'll have to restart the computer itself ?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 16:34:16 No.16308207 File: 313 KB, 800x1000, The best.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well nevermind, somehow I had 23 different th07 processes running as phantoms in the background. Just closed them all and it works. >>16308177 Thanks for the help.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 16:35:58 No.16308210 I fucking hate ufo

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 16:44:57 No.16308235 >>16307568 I used default lives on PCB Normal, and cleared it on my last continue for my first try. Now, I can 1cc the same game on Normal with Reimu. The amount that one improves while playing Touhou is truly remarkable.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 16:54:36 No.16308286

>>16308235
I'll be honest here, I feel like I hit a wall. The difference in difficulty from Stage to Stage is quite something, specially now that I'm in the 4th one. (AKA where the game truly starts acording to ZUN)
Just the stage enemies and fairies make me feel like I'm being bombarded with an endless nonspell.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 16:59:25 No.16308304 File: 37 KB, 640x400, anex86_6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is th2 so hard? And the music is fucking amazing, especially the stage 2 theme and Marisas theme.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 17:06:21 No.16308335 File: 32 KB, 426x240, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16308304 >SoEW >hard top lol

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 17:06:57 No.16308337

>>16308286
So there's this secret trick you can perform to make almost every stage 4 significantly easier. This trick is referred to as streaming, more often than not stage portions are aimed, and this is especially true for stage 4, just pay attention to what is aimed and what is not.

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 17:22:06 No.16308380

>>16308337
The problem is that I know when it's aimed, I just don't know what to do with the info. I do know which bullets are aimed, it's just that there are so many I either die, bomb before dying or waste a bomb.
I am making progress though, just reached the Prismrivers for the first time (With my last life and no continues), survived 2 spells in.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 17:51:50 No.16308471 >>16308335 Not him, but the lack of deathbombs and wonky hitboxes make the game harder than it should be. And yes, Bet on Death (and maybe Power of Darkness) aside, the music is fucking amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 17:52:05 No.16308473 File: 170 KB, 728x500, 2016-12-24 - 17.51.45 ~ Cropped Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16308304 th2 is easy pls apply yourself

Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 18:00:59 No.16308491

Why do people claim that using Malice Cannon is cheating? It's about the same damage as Youmu with both streams hitting but without the benefit of Yuyuko's super spread for stage portions/when you can't be under the boss. Magic team also doesn't get a free bomb every level let alone the ridiculous benefits Border Team gets.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 18:17:55 No.16308530 >>16308491 Glitch = Cheating -Anon 2016 Ignore these nigs.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 18:24:18 No.16308548 >>16308530 Has it actually been confirmed by ZUN that it's a glitch in the first place? The laser lingering for a bit could be intentional for all we know, it's not like the Marisa B glitch in MoF where it's obviously not intended.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 19:12:52 No.16308691 File: 62 KB, 639x478, C0ebUH-UAAAGoM9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2.421b any credit for 2.5 now I hope

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 19:31:10 No.16308782 >>16308491 Magic Team also sucks balls

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 20:50:32 No.16309041 File: 2.98 MB, 640x480, end my life.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How many times has this happened to you?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 21:12:19 No.16309137 >>16308335 >>16308473 It's not that it's super hard at any one point, but stupid mistakes are extremely easy to make. It's like everything is off just by a tiny margin, so if you're not compensating for that margin you can fuck up easily.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 22:54:26 No.16309532 >>16309041 None because that would require me doing an 1cc and unlocking the Extra to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Dec 24, 2016 23:39:03 No.16309651 >>16307568 I used max lives I went back and beat all of them with default later though. Wish I went with default from the start, it made TH10 onward a lot harder not doing that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 00:14:48 No.16309722 >>16309041 you have a shitton of slowdown there mate

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 00:18:07 No.16309728 >>16309722 It's a replay. Fraps caused the framedrops.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 00:21:23 No.16309735 >>16309728 OBS Studio is pretty good, try it out if you want

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 00:28:57 No.16309744 >>16309651 I'll be honest that I'm going for a default run because I've no idea how to increase them anyways. In the end, being the ultimate scrublord will be what will make me into a honed player.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 07:27:37 No.16310816 File: 39 KB, 1245x930, Screenshot at 2016-12-25 02:53:05.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] W-wow...

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 08:09:58 No.16310945 File: 245 KB, 640x480, First Clear EVER.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16307568 Pic related, I even used to have that stupid patch

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 11:50:13 No.16311740 >>16309651 Default is 3, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 11:51:16 No.16311742 File: 12 KB, 228x193, 1482276443987.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16310945 >59fps

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 11:52:10 No.16311746 >>16311742 I'm more concerned about the retexture pack he's using.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 12:14:34 No.16311849 >>16311746 >used to have >>16311742 For some reason I always get a frame drop while capturing shit >>16311740 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 12:18:49 No.16311865 >>16310945 >>16311746 The retexture pack is an abomination of the worst kind. It's the 2hu equivalent of people 'improving' their games with reshade/sweetfx. The retexture pack literally makes EoSD look worse somehow.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 13:22:55 No.16312074 >>16311865 Indeed, which is why I ultimately ended up taking it away

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 14:53:57 No.16312374 Always bomb Cirno's Icicle Fall on EoSD. I just can't do it otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 15:05:36 No.16312435 >>16312374 You've got a long way to go.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 15:12:49 No.16312464 >>16312435 Yes I do.

Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 15:22:55 No.16312503

>>16308380
What you do with the info is move really slowly. Preferably start from one side of the screen and move to the other, but if you start from the middle you'll usually be okay too.

If you move slowly enough that each group of aimed bullets grazes you just a little (I'm assuming you know what grazing is in these games), the next group of aimed shots will be fired at almost the exact same place since you're still so close. Just tap left or right a tiny bit a few times and you should see what I mean.

If you run all over the screen during segments with aimed shots, the screen will get filled with bullets that are then hard as fuck to avoid. But if you just barely move around they'll all be fired at the same place, and unless you're getting backed up against a wall you can pretty much just ignore them at that point by continuing to move slightly in whatever direction you're going.

Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 16:22:32 No.16312718

>>16312503
Oh, so THAT'S strafing ? Well, that's pretty easy to do in some of the Prismriver's spells and on Lily White's midboss fight, though now I'm having trouble with those last fairies that burst bullets randomly all over the place leaving 2 or 3 gaps for you here and there (If I'm making any sense).
I did finally manage to reach Youmu in Stage 5 though, so now I'm focusing on both running Stage 4 without losing too many lives and trying to overcome Youmu's time slowdown gimmick.
Shit, I think I might clear this by New Year'ss eve, 1cc when.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 21:56:08 No.16313776 >>16312374 It's very easy to time out: move from center to right, then back to center. You can hug the bottom of the screen doing this.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 22:46:18 No.16313927 I have a feeling that in PoFV with bigger score the games tends to get much more difficult.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Dec 25, 2016 23:05:43 No.16313993 >>16313927 That's for every game though. Less so for PoFV actually, since you can theoretically get infinite score from stage 9 round 1.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 02:09:31 No.16314527 >>16313993 >That's for every game though. What?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 05:38:39 No.16315058 >>16313776 That's interesting. I'll usually stick around the centre of the screen, wait for the icicles to close in and move left through a gap.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 09:22:18 No.16315879 >>16315058 I move close to Cirno (not close enough to activate anti cheat, just close enough to get good DPS), move through the first icicles on the right side, then just move over the other two while getting underneath Cirno to repeat the process.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 09:42:14 No.16315969 >>16315879 There is no "anti-cheat" on Cirno, you can literally safespot it on her head.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 09:57:55 No.16316028 >>16314527 With bigger score in any game it gets more difficult. Unless you meant rank increase in PoFV is a function of score or something, which it's not.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 10:05:30 No.16316055 >>16315969 If you move too close underneath Ciuirno (on her sprite), the rate of fire from the yellow bullets during Icicle Fall is doubled.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 11:24:38 No.16316311 Why am I having so much trouble with Youmu's nonspells, they're pretty much the same as Alice's in the beginning of Stage 3. Hell, how did I even get this far ? So, which bosses have been troubling you people lately ?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 11:34:44 No.16316346 >>16316311 Patchouli. I can do the rest of the game just fine, but I always choke on her with things that shouldn't have happened.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 12:49:58 No.16316610 >>16316028 This is the first time I have heard about this. Any proof?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 13:05:53 No.16316694 >>16316346 Welp, I'm back still failing at Youmu. >Lost like 3 lifes to the Prismrivers >Panic bombed all my way through Youmu's first nonspell, lost the 2 last continues on the actual fight Quoting myself, just fuck my gameplay up.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 13:47:28 No.16316850 >>16316694 oh boy, you better get used to Youmu's 1t non since you might see it again later, and then again.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 14:07:01 No.16316942 My gf is big into this game and I never browse this board because I'm not a weeb, but I wanted to find it's general. I've torrented a lot of the games and gave them to her, but what the fuck is the appeal of this shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 14:08:53 No.16316955 >>16316028 I thought rank was an EoSD/PCB thing only.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 14:13:42 No.16316973 >>16316055 >rate of fire from the yellow bullets during Icicle Fall is doubled I've wondered why that was happening inconsistently, but it's actually anti-cheat huh? Interesting.

Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 14:20:00 No.16316996

So I'm one spell away from my first hard 1cc in MoF. Any tips on Kanako's last spell? I can dodge pretty well during the first bits of it, then I start deathbombing here and there until it gets really dense and I have no idea how I'm supposed to dodge anymore. This spell would cost me 3 lives but I always get to it with 2 or less.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 14:24:54 No.16317018 File: 1.15 MB, 1252x805, 1469110571122.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16316942 It's little girls firing lasers at each other, anon. The appeal should be self-explanatory.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 15:16:27 No.16317186 Anyone have experience recovering from a stroke? I had one recently. The reduced hand dexterity and increased mental confusion with bullet patterns are giving me trouble. Does it get better?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 15:17:18 No.16317189 >>16316996 If you die/bomb it gets harder. Don't be afraid to make fast unfocused moves to get away from "walls". I find her last spell harder on normal mode than on hard mode.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 15:57:19 No.16317337 File: 994 KB, 500x279, Horrified.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16316850 Do you say that as in I'll fail it over and over again, or that she's gonna repeat it as her Stage 6 midboss appearance ? You're making me worried anon ...

Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 16:26:46 No.16317435

>>16317189
>If you die/bomb it gets harder
Indeed. Especially for the fact I'm using Reimu A (homing shot). I have already 1cc'd hard with Marisa B, but I abused the glitch so it doesn't count; if I make it with Reimu A it'll be first real Touhou hard 1cc ever.

>I find her last spell harder on normal mode than on hard mode.
How so? It's basically the same except it gets way more dense during the final bits on hard difficulty.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 16:29:14 No.16317447 >>16317435 >How so? That's because the bullets are slower at Normal mode, and because the sightly faster bullets from Hard flow better, in my opinion. Maybe it's just me, but I have a higher capture rate in hard's card than normal's card.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 17:45:56 No.16317696 >>16317337 You see that attack 3 times total in 1 run

Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 19:06:15 No.16318033

>>16316610
I didn't say the increased difficulty had anything to do with rank or bullet patterns getting harder. It's just that the more optimized something is, the harder it gets to optimize it more.

>>16316955
It's in PoDD and PoFV as well. How else do you think the bullet patterns get faster between stages/over time? (aside from spell and boss power - the numbers in the lower corners).

In PCB rank barely matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 19:09:22 No.16318050 File: 902 KB, 640x480, 1456215937913.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Eiki is starting to giving me PTSD. This was a fourth live against her and she still hold until past 3 minute. This woman is tough.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Dec 26, 2016 19:10:36 No.16318058 File: 902 KB, 640x480, 1456215937913.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Eiki starts to giving me PTSD. This was a fourth live against her and she still hold until past 3 minute. This woman is tough.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 04:33:08 No.16319853 if I'm not talented should I just give up?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 05:08:11 No.16319934 >>16319853 How long have you been playing for? I thought I sucked but after one year I'm already about to 1cc my first Touhou on hard.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 05:11:30 No.16319942

>>16319853
>if I'm not talented should I just give up?
If you're aiming for world records then maybe, but if your goals are set entirely by comparing yourself to other people that's more of a problem the mindset of why you'd play the games in the first place. Stop the memeing.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 06:02:51 No.16320058

>>16316996
There aren't really any specific tips because it's so straightforward. Play it in practice mode a lot, it's great practice and it's fun. One piece of generic advice that applies here is to make sure to not dodge at the very bottom of the screen, to give you room to dodge downwards when needed.

>>16317189
>If you die/bomb it gets harder
Well, when you die you get power back, so as long as you're bombing a couple of times before dying you're good. Anyways, you shouldn't think of it as getting "harder", since unlike stages where less power indirectly increases bullet quantity, nothing about the game really gets harder; it just takes longer. But the whole time you spend dealing damage after bombing is ultimately better than just not bombing in order to "conserve" power and dying as a result, so don't think of it as "oh no now it's going to take longer" but rather "I'm still dealing damage on this life" because taking longer to win isn't important.

>>16317447
Probably just because you've gotten better? Mountain of Faith on Normal doesn't do any double-layering, which is one of the key parts in why the pattern is difficult in the first place. Without the layering it's just the first 20 seconds of VoWG Hard but slower. It's definitely true that slower versions of the same patterns can be harder than a faster one, but I don't think it really applies here because it doesn't really close space any more than on Hard.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 06:09:06 No.16320076

I started playing touhou (10 desires) a few days ago, and struggling to finish it on normal. The biggest thing that holds me back is that i don't use enough bombs because i don't see when i'm about to die early enough. Is there some sort of rule of thumb for when to bomb?
Also, Reimu is the most shitter friendly character because of the smaller hitbox and homing projectiles right?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 08:22:19 No.16320478 File: 57 KB, 160x262, Yuyuko (1045).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16320058 >unlike stages where less power indirectly increases bullet quantity What? Could you elaborate on this? First time I hear about this

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 08:24:32 No.16320488 >>16320478 For example, the spam section of UFO stage 5. If you have low power you'll kill less faries so they will shoot more bullets.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 08:25:12 No.16320491

>>16320076
>Is there some sort of rule of thumb for when to bomb?
Just when you are about to get hit. You can bomb a couple frames after being hit too, but that appears to be harder on TD.
>>16320076
>Reimu is the most shitter friendly character because of the smaller hitbox and homing projectiles right?
Yes, she is great for beginners in almost every game. She does better in early ones since you keep your homing shot even while focused, unlike new ones

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 08:26:32 No.16320495

>>16320076
>Is there some sort of rule of thumb for when to bomb?
You'll get it eventually. Not even joking. Just try to familiarize yourself with patterns and what's going to be happening at what times. If you feel pressured and you can't read the bullets fast enough, just bomb.

Reimu's benefits are probably more comfortable to new players, due to those reasons and also Spirits autocollecting when in Trance.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 08:32:56 No.16320524

>>16320491
>You can bomb a couple frames after being hit too, but that appears to be harder on TD
You know, being that guy who keeps mentioning that the deathbomb timer is still 8 frames and consistent with other games, I've been becoming more and more convinced that the reason people find it harder in TD is because of the game's overall design. Hitboxes are relatively larger in comparison to other games, even if only slightly, the game encourages shotgunning at all times but has tons of enemies with collision boxes, enemies that are fine with sniping you, things that spawn bullets basically on top of you, and potentially many instances where you're running around the screen too much. I can definitely see these factors being reasons deathbombing is felt as harder, because there's literally just less time to notice you'll be hit.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 08:39:18 No.16320537

>>16320524
Yeah that's pretty much what I meant, it's 8 frames MoF onwards. But in shit like SA or LoLK it seems easier, maybe because of the density of the danmaku in those games. In TD, a lot of times I find myself getting hit, without knowing what it was for some of the reasons you listed

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 09:29:33 No.16320695 Man TD feels so cheap

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 09:46:11 No.16320764

>>16320058
No, I don't think that the game gets "harder". I just thought that VoWG started double-layering after you died or bombed (which was why I thought it was easier in the first place: "just don't die/bomb here and you'll be okay."). I always capture it before the hard part starts, so I had that dumb perception of how that card worked.

>Probably just because you've gotten better?
Yeah, it could be this. I used my reaction when first facing that card on normal and when first facing it on hard to make that comparison, so you're mostly right.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 12:35:34 No.16321512 Is it just me or does Skuya A have a much better hoaming when focused in PCB compared to the others ? I'm starting to think she's the shitter firendly 2hu after all.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 12:40:57 No.16321545 >>16321512 Enjoy them 8 frames deathbombs

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 12:44:23 No.16321555 Is it possible to "deathtrance" like deathbombing in TD?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 12:51:11 No.16321576 >>16321555 https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Ten_Desires/Gameplay#Trance_Mode Yes

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 12:58:54 No.16321611 >>16321576 Thanks! I don't know why, but I never was capable of doing this. Maybe I'm just shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 13:14:47 No.16321692 What am I supposed to do on Yuyko's "Swallowtail Butterfly" ? I swear I just can't tell how big the blast radius of those lasers are, and it brings out the shitter inside me since I suck in randomized patterns.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 13:22:50 No.16321722 >>16321692 The laser's hitboxes aren't big. You just have to move between the big blue bullets, and avoid being close to the laser thingy. Just like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHf8SUGJnHo

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 13:25:54 No.16321735 >>16321722 I suppose my problem isn't space, because there's plenty of that there. Either I'm not precise enough or not confident enough to move that fast in between the bullets. Thanks for the tip anyways, I'll give it a shot.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 13:29:57 No.16321747 >>16321735 You can move in a square motion, luring the explosion to the edges of said square. Moving left/up, right/down is easier than maneuvering diagonally. Practice makes it perfect.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 13:38:45 No.16321779

>>16321747
But wouldn't moving diagonally be essentially necessary for me to get through the big blue bullets ? It's not like they're stationary, so unless I time it perfectly upon crossing them (A la Frogger), vertical combined movement will be needed.

And therein where the devil, or rather, the phantom, lies. I have a fine habit of speeding TORWARDS bullets that already went past me. That and panic bombing, but those are things I can solve later.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:03:23 No.16321863
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>>16321779
I actually tried moving in a square-manner and it didn't felt that good, as you can see. But you just have to lure from side to side, and once you figure the trick, it's easy. Plus, the laser hitbox is tiny.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:07:50 No.16321884

>>16321863
I see. Some guy on Youtube suggested moving in a figure 8, ever tried that out ? In any case, I suppose I still have to worry about getting to Stage 6 confidently and safely to begin with. It seems to me like this time was just a shot of luck.
That and the fact that when I reach her again, I'll have to worry about the Reflowering.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:11:43 No.16321897

>>16321884
When facing this card, I pretty much move randomly, just avoiding the shots. This is a card where you have a lot of room to move, so you can do it in many different ways.

Anyway, don't be afraid to bomb whenever you feel like, and if you find yourself in a position to safely fire unfocused, do it, since it fills the border gauge faster. But do it when you know you'll be safe.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:17:54 No.16321910
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>>16321897
>don't be afraid to bomb whenever you feel like
I'm the anon up there asking about Sakuya being the shitter friendly 2hu, and I'll have to admit that I only got thus far because of lmao4bombs.
Regardless, I'm a much better player when using Reimu A and I'm having mad trouble using her to get past Youmu, so we'll see how that ends.

Well, the tips are very much aprecciated, besides, I'm making progress anyways. If I recall I started playing on the 24th and I was pretty afraid of dying to Letty at that time.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:23:12 No.16321925

>>16321910
>I'm making progress anyways.
That's good to hear.

Reimu A's shot type is pretty strong, and her small hitbox makes it good for a starting point, since you can be anywhere in the screen and still deal damage plus her hitbox. The Crimson Slayer is pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:28:18 No.16321950 >>16321925 Crimson Slayer ? Is that one her bomb's names ? I didn't read them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:33:05 No.16321961 File: 289 KB, 800x750, reimu personality.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16321950 Crimson Slayer is a cute nickname given to our harmless red-and-white Miko.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:38:46 No.16321985 >>16321961 >Then, shall we begin? Your execution. From which game is that quote?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:41:07 No.16321989 File: 64 KB, 182x216, Since when does Hiimsdaisy draw 2hu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16321961 Oh, I see, just like Sakuya goes by Jack the Ripper, Marisa goes by the Ordinary Magician, and so on.

Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:42:08 No.16321994

>>16321985
That's just reflecting how she usually is in the games. In the games she's pretty merciless (as she should be, since she's dealing with youkai which caused an incident). She just wants to get things done and beat whoever started shit.

>>16321989
Of all three, only one of these is canon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:45:12 No.16322009 >>16321994 I'd assume that'd be the Ordinary Magician ? I mean, I didn't think Crimson Slayer was canon, thought it was more along the lines of calling Yukari a gaphag.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 14:47:14 No.16322017 >>16322009 >thought it was more along the lines of calling Yukari a gaphag. Yup. Between those, only the Marisa's nickname is canon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 15:13:26 No.16322122 >>16321994 >That's just reflecting how she usually is in the games. Oh, I thought it was from a specific game. It's weird, I do remember reading that line in one of the games. Must be faulty memory.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 16:13:18 No.16322389 >>16321985 Not an exact quote, but in Lotus Land Story we have this exchange between Reimu and Orange: >I was looking for youkai. >What for? >Obliteration.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 17:21:21 No.16322649 How do you even choose which theme, really? So many of them are so good. If I had to, though, I guess I'd choose Sukuna's theme. Feels powerful with emotional undertones. Blaring MIDI trumpets!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Dec 27, 2016 23:45:04 No.16323841 >Hecatia's second non-spell Wait, what the fuck am I actually supposed to do here like how do I not die

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 00:01:46 No.16323871 >>16323841 If you know where the slow walls of bullets are, then you know where the faster ones will go. The biggest issue is not walling yourself from the other slow bullets, which is where you need to read ahead.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 01:18:05 No.16324030 >>16323871 No webms?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 01:22:16 No.16324039 >>16324030 You can always look something up on youtube.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 02:18:31 No.16324201 Utsuho. It was her game and theme that ultimately got me into Touhou in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 02:31:02 No.16324222 I've brought this up before but I don't get how people can think 10/11/12 are easier than 6/7/8. I'm trying to get through SA for the first time on Normal and it's fucking me up. I can't even get past the fucking fifth level.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 02:35:05 No.16324233 >>16324201 Does anyone actually say 11 or 12 are easier than the first three? Pretty much everyone I've seen agrees they're the two hardest besides LOLK.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 02:36:15 No.16324235 >>16324233 Meant to reply to >>16324222

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 05:35:17 No.16324754 >>16324222 >>16324233 >>16324235 10 is easier. 11 is arguably the hardest Normal clear besides LoLK maybe, 12 being within a close margin to that.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 06:15:23 No.16324836
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>>16321961
>>16321985
>>16321994
>>16322122
Okay, since people don't seem to know this, the LoLK Reimu panel contains two references:

「じゃ、こうしましょう。〇〇は死刑」 is from manga Oishinbo. It's a meme.

Meanwhile 赤い通り魔 is a fan-name for Redman, a tokusatsu show whose "hero" is 1) red and white, and 2) has famous scenes where he brutally murders the monsters who often don't even seem to do anything bad.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3727286

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 06:16:48 No.16324839 >>16324836 >LoLK DDC*

Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 07:52:31 No.16325066
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So instead of going back to 20XX New Domino City to prevent Synchro summoning Yliaster end up on Gensokyo?
What will Bruno do with in the upcoming game?

We get 3 fighting games in 4 years it's insane. What if it's actually use SWR mechanic?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 08:01:40 No.16325097 >>16323841 I'm trying to clear that stage as well. I find Moon Hecatia's non spells to be the most troublesome.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 14:18:55 No.16326535 So, I'm doing LoLK PD mode and I'm at Junko. I still have 5 bombs and I'm a few chapters in. Which parts should I bomb? I've already planned for the last spellcard.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 15:17:10 No.16326764 >>16326535 In my first playthrough, I bombed her second card, third nonspell and the curvy laser card.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 15:46:11 No.16326872 >>16325066 >What if it's actually use SWR mechanic? I'd die of happiness, but I doubt that'll be what happens.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 16:37:14 No.16327099 >>16325066 What's so insane about it? IaMP, SWR and Soku took five. >What if it's actually use SWR mechanic? They are not going to go with that trash gameplay, fuck off already. >>16326872 Hi /v/.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 16:56:17 No.16327185
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>>16327099
How'd you know I was from /v/? I've been trying not to use /v/ lingo and I've been avoiding greentexting outside quotes.

ULiL is okay but it feels so weird to control for me, the way you always gravitate toward the center of the screen like a tether.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 19:13:34 No.16327861 >>16325066 >SWR mechanic The weather was fine, the unhittable bosses and crappy resources given wasn't.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 19:17:16 No.16327884 >>16327861 >crappy resources Are you talking about card mechanic in general or story mode specifically?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 21:08:37 No.16328308 So like, what's the bump limit in /jp/ anyways ? Is it time to abandon ship ?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 21:35:23 No.16328402 >>16328308 Hi /v/, on /jp/ general threads are usually reposted when the old one is at page 10. This is because /jp/ is a slow board and you should take care not to clog it up more than necessary

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 21:37:11 No.16328407 >>16328402 Where do you think I came from?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 21:55:44 No.16328478 >>16328402 Never been to /v/, it's just that I've never been with a thread till its death.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 28, 2016 23:30:00 No.16328850 >>16328308 >Is it time to abandon ship ? That time only comes when 1) anon post new thread 2) thread dies and you wanna make the next The first scenario happens when the current thread is in page 10, never before I believe /jp/ bump limit is 300.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 01:23:07 No.16329346 http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=42194 Possessed by Phoenix finished prematurely with Malice Cannon.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 09:51:39 No.16330893 >>16329346 I didn't even know that was possible at all I'm getting 404 tho

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 10:45:04 No.16331108 >>16327884 Story mode. The bosses would've been much easier if I kept my card slots after using a powerful spell, rather than having the card slots go down, putting me in a shitty situation if the spell cards took more cards than I could achieve.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 11:35:15 No.16331354 For the first time of my life I managed to go no continues into Stage 5, lost my last life, and I forgot that the "Continue ?" option always starts on no. Well, the rest is history, this is why ragequits happen.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 12:13:49 No.16331590 >>16331354 >do really well on MS >NMNB to Stage 4 boss >Pause the game >The cursor was on "Quit" >Press Z I know the feeling. Quoting myself

Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 12:32:46 No.16331703
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>>16331590
I'll do you one better, after fucking that one up, I thought to myself "I got thus far once, I can do it again".
I defeated Yuyuko and died to her Reflowering. It's a weird amalgamation of both hype and mad that I cannot describe.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 12:52:42 No.16331812 >>16331703 I died to reflowering in Hard Mode a couple days ago, could have been a nice 1cc but hey, if I got that far I can do it right? Those red butterflies are bitches

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 12:54:26 No.16331822 >>16303441 >>16304306 >>16316694 >>16331590 >Quoting myself Seriously stop this shit, you don't get to just blatantly greentext and then make a lame excuse like that, keep it out of /jp/ and if you can't then leave.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 12:57:43 No.16331830 File: 84 KB, 154x253, 1463383285396.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16331822 Yeah, my bad. I started that shit on >>16303441 but then it snowballed and became an excuse for anyone to greentext

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 13:27:33 No.16331966 Man, fuck Orin. She's even harder than Utsuho

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 13:42:48 No.16332049 >>16331812 Far as I know, this was a winnable fight for me, even if it meant spam bombing. Besides, don't they say that you're safe if you stand perfectly under her ? Easier said than done, I panicked and bombed about twice to her first butterflies.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 13:51:51 No.16332098

>>16331822
>you don't get to just blatantly greentext and then make a lame excuse like that
Yes, yes we do, because people like you think /jp/ is such serious business no greentext is allowed, in in situations where narration without it is very difficult.
And before you cry about "muh board culture", people have been quoting themselves for longer than you've probably been here.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 13:52:54 No.16332105 >>16332098 *even in

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 16:50:11 No.16333008 File: 1.60 MB, 1920x2400, rin tips.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16331966

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 17:23:09 No.16333160 >>16331966 see >>16045345 Quoting myself.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 17:39:58 No.16333272 >>16333008 thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 21:31:51 No.16334362 >>16332098 They're not all just narrating for convenience >>16331590 is literally a greentext story. They even say "I know the feeling", all it needs is a shitty meme picture.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 29, 2016 23:31:01 No.16334888 Finally beat the Phantasm stage, yay. I still have problems with Mokou though. What extra stages are harder than this?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 30, 2016 03:27:43 No.16335622 ISC 10-7 no item has taken me more attempts than every other scene with no items combined and I still haven't cleared it yet. Kill me now.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 30, 2016 04:28:20 No.16335788 >>16331822 Better than a barrage of "Who are you quoting?"

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 30, 2016 07:19:47 No.16336239 >>16335788 Just learn to type without greentexting like a retard in every post.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 30, 2016 09:02:02 No.16336608 >>16334888 All of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 30, 2016 10:09:45 No.16336776 File: 26 KB, 800x2160, touhou 1ccs 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>16336608 Ran and Suwako are the easiest of them all.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 30, 2016 10:23:10 No.16336830 >>16336776 Memo is impossible though, and Suwako likes that.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 30, 2016 11:20:32 No.16337033 >>16336844

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