Kantai Collection -KanColle-

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Wiki:
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JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air superiority calculator/fleet builder:
http://aircalc.net
http://kancollecalc.web.fc2.com/air_supremacy.html
http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html

Combat mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit guns for BBs:
Others: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724
Iowa: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14q3M_N9HXVC0g2Jp9gA42qkEChq0EeHKeWHn7Hrt1L8/edit#gid=961378818

Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me

Drop/construction statistics:
http://kancolle-db.net
http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList

Voices/sprites/furniture preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer
Electronic Observer (JP): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserver
Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/silfumus/ElectronicObserver

PS Vita game: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA

The KanColle movie is out. Movie trailers: https://youtu.be/7udGu_a0AvY https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E https://youtu.be/aTxaSuB_Fv8

News:
-The Autumn 2016 Event has ended.
-All Late Autumn and Wine of Autumn voice lines have been removed (except for Pola, who also keeps her sprite), and replaced with Christmas sprites, voice lines and furniture, including over 20 new Christmas lines.
-The following ships get new Christmas sprites: Kuma, Maruyu, Akashi, Commandant Teste, Tone Kai 2 and Chikuma Kai 2. Akashi gets a new sprite at the cash item shop, but not at her upgrading factory.
-Akebono gets a new sprite at Kai.
-Jet aircraft, as well as a new system for them, have finally been implemented. Nakajima Kikka and Funshiki Keiun Kai are the first two jets in the game. Jets consume steel while in use, and can be equipped on both land bases and armoured CVs.
-In the new aerial system, jets take part in an additional "jet assault" phase before the standard aerial phase. Jets are less susceptible to normal aircraft than to ship anti-air. Jets that survive this phase can partcipate in the aerial phase later.
-F4F-3, F4F-4 and the Prototype Keiun can now be improved. F4F-3 can be upgraded to F4F-4, and the Prototype Keiun to Funshiki Keiun Kai.
-A new blueprint for new model aircraft has been implemented. It and the Ne-Type engine can both be obtained from completing quests, but not from the cash shop.
-10 new quests have been added. Three of them respectively award a prototype Keiun, either a Type 2 Seaplane Fighter or a PBY-5A Catalina, and a Kikka Kai. Four other quests, including two submarine expedition quests, reward a total of two new model aircraft blueprints and two Ne-Type engines.
-Shortland and Rabaul have been expanded. You are now able to register for the game directly through Android, without needing a PC.
-The next Kai 2 will be for a CA.

[Anonymous No.]

Jets are shit.

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I have extreme diarrhea and I was just want to play the game

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Reminder that Jet Keiun is hot garbage and only get Kikka, wait for a torpedo bomber.

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>>16253951
UGH THICCER

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>>16253975
Did jet Torpedo bombers even exist?

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>trying to do B76

dude I LOVE 1-3

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>>16253985
There wouldn't be any point to it, would it? You have to go slow to drop a torpedo in the water, and jets are all about going fast .

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>>16253975
Why would you wait when they're just going to give you another engine for that torp bomber? Do you really believe you'll be able to make more than 1 of them when they're likely to be from a 1-time quest?

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Does anyone have a married unremodelled Yamakaze?

>>16253985
There are quite a few postwar ones, but for WW2 jets the Douglas BTD Destroyer was the closest I could find.

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>>16254025
>unremodelled

Why?

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>>16254014
A jet dive bomber might make sense not a Torpedo bomber.

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>>16253946
In some cases it's just more evident and simply jarring. Examples: Kusonagi, Kuso Ichishit.

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>>16254027
I find that the contrast between the lines unremodelled Yamakaze and remodelled Yamakaze affects the impact of her marriage line and post marriage secretary line.

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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30172376

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Crafting 52s is suffering

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>>16254083
>tfw 3 pages of them

I don't even know why

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>>16253946
>EVERYONE has that problem

This is simply not true. And even for the ones that do have it some are worse than others.

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>>16253958
Calm down anon.

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>>16254135
I'm calm.

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>>16254043

I thought I was imagining it, but does the tone of her equipment lines also change depending on whether she's been remodelled or not? For the lines that remain unchanged, that is.

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How are you?

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>>16254014
What if we modify the torpedoes to handle high speeds and do horizontal dive bombing?

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>>16254158
I'm fine, thank you.

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>>16254083
Try 20/20/10/90 and firmly believe that you want to craft Reppū.

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>>16254162
It's not dive bombing if it's not vertical.

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>>16254158
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Saratoga#comm-515796

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>>16254175
I'm a fool and did 206010120

First 5 crafts were reppu rskx2 saiun penguin
30 crafts later was the first ever t52

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>>16254083
Just do it with the Zero M52 monthly quest. Keep that quest on all month and the next month as well and once you've done the monthly quest twice you'll have saved on three M52s.

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3-5 south is beating the absolute shit out of me this month

thanks for reading my blog

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Hmm

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>>16254178
Reminder that Yorkie looks like Shoukaku or Zuikaku.

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>>16254226
Shouldn't you at least put one torpedo bomber there, anon?

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>>16254233
Those were just jet opening strikes. I did have torpedo bombers equipped.

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>>16254226
>jets are just as subject to RNG as any other plane

Wew.

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>>16254226
Kek, that's awful.

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Literally going to strangle someone

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>>16254233
Jet torp bombers aren't implemented yet, anon.

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>>16254262
And they never will because they are post-war.

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>>16254264
They'll just make the Douglas a jet torp bomber in-game.

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>>16254241
It's a dive bomber, it's shit by default. The jet aerial phase makes it worse because it acts alone.

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>>16254269
#MDBGA

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>>16254267
Which Douglas?

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>>16254264
BV P178 Jet Bomber w/BT700?

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>>16254223
How many married DDs do you send there? How many DDs you send there are considered elite/above average (i.e. stats higher than usual 50/80)?

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>>16254275
Oops
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_BTD_Destroyer

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>>16254226
Dive bombing is shit, more at 11.

Expect to still have to bring them to counter enemy jets anyway.

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>>16253985
It exists as a class in the game, so it might be added.

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https://exhentai.org/g/1005609/1d75f387f5/

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>>16254283
They'd just make it a dive bomber.

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>>16254287
It does?

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>>16254283
Did those bastards never take any picture of the jet variant? That would make it harder for the devs to consider it for implementation.

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>>16254226
4 destroyers killed in 6 runs with 2 attacks per run. The accuracy isn't impressive, but it takes out a DD often enough to consider using, especially if you have an enemy combined fleet

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>>16254300
According to chink dataminers at least.

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>>16254318
So we're gonna get an Me 262 fighter, some unknown torp jet, and a recon jet?

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>>16254298
Depends. The Ryuusei, Seiran (and by extension Nanzan) and Ju 87C were all dive/torpedo bombers so it could be up to the whim of the devs.

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>>16254318
I feel that sooner or later jet torpedo bombers will be renamed jet fighter-torpedo bombers some time in the future like jet fighter-dive bombers. It wouldn't be right to automatically assume that all fighter-bombers are dive bombers, even for jets.

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>>16254339
We already have a torpedo fighter-bomber.

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>>16254346
Yeah, and it isn't the only example either. So if torpedo bombers ever become upgradable I wouldn't count out the possibility of the devs giving upgraded torp bombers extra AA as well.

It isn't a jet though, and finding WW2 jet torp bombers was already hard enough.

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>>16254323
The torp bomber variant of Ju87 never really used though. Also Germans never really got their own aerial torpedo off the ground.

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>>16254226
This is the power of jets.
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH

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>>16254283
Where exactly did it say this was a jet?
It's just another prop plane.
Heck, even the far more advance Skyraider was a prop plane, and it was used well beyond WW2.

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>>16254346
Which plane is that?

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It's under variants apparently:
XBTD-2
Prototypes with mixed propulsion, the additional Westinghouse 19B turbojet in rear fuselage giving 1,500 lbf (6.7 kN) thrust did not sufficiently improve performance. First flight May 1944. Two built.
A hybrid variant like the Fireball.

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>>16254367
Re.2001 G Kai.

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>>16254371
meant for>>16254361

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>>16254361
The XBTD-2 variant had mixed propulsion.

Besides, I did say it was the closest one I could find.

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>>16254357
Germany never made a carrier-capable variant of the FW-190 either, but that didn't stop Tanaka.
>>16254359
Go on and scrap it if you want-you'll be sorry when Tanaka rolls out the Essex Hime with Abyssal Phantom jet fighters.

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>>16254378
>Go on and scrap it if you want
By now anyone who hasn't already learned that "you don't scrap any rare equipment or you'll regret it" is a retard.

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So what was the pinnacle of piston fighters?

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>>16254400
Sea fury for fighters.
Tigercat for twin engine heavy fighers.
A-1 for bombers/torpedo bombers I guess.
All carrier planes.

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>>16254378
That's because Tanaka is shit. So much for his supposed love for obscure things. Graf's real upgrade carrier planes would have been this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blohm_%26_Voss_BV_155

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>>16254435
>interceptor

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>>16254445
>The Me 155 was intended to be based aboard the aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin, then under construction. In the interest of economy and simplicity, the Me 155 was to use as many Messerschmitt Bf 109 components as possible, being basically a navalized version of the earlier Messerschmitt fighter.

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>>16254435
You're lucky Zepp even got her fantasy FW, Aquila didn't even come with her Re.2005.

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>>16254378
But Essex even with SCB-125 could only roll out Corsairs. Phantom was viewed as too heavy a plane for it.

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>>16254445
Graf Zeppelin zwei will be able to equip interceptors, actually making her useful.

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>>16254445
It began life as a carrier plane. Also the Fw 190 was also an interceptor. Same thing with early jets.

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>>16254455
It's not like Graf herself is great anyway.

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http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/50216019.html

Translate please, rumors of possible sara K2?

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>>16254461
Wrong Phantom dipshit. Use the image search for fuck's sake.

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>>16254473
>K2
Devs will call Anglo ships Mk.III instead.

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>>16254374

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.55

I wish they'd given us this one instead of a useless trophy plane. At least it would've had decent stats as a fighter (and possibly a torpedo fighter-bomber).

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>>16254473
>Autumn
Why do faggots call it """""""""""""""""""Fall""""""""""""""""""", again?

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>F4Fシリーズは装備更新で後継機のF6Fシリーズにも繋がっていく
HER WE GO HELLCATS.

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Why is Yoshinori so based?

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>>16254488
So how much AA for a basic, non-named one?

11?

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>>16254495
So this is how Sara's launching works. It has two triggers, the first release the plane and it's moved up with the elevators, then pulling the second trigger launches the plane.

>>16254502
Abyssal one is +10, only as good as Reppuu.

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>>16254506
Abyssal stats are hilariously inflated.

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艦娘談話のコーナー
直近2つのイベントで実装された新艦娘の大きなイラストやデータを記載した「艦娘着任報告書」
こちらでCommandant Testeを担当されている声優がタニベユミさんであることが明らかとなりました

>タニベユミ
There's Teste's VA, Tanibe Yumi.

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>>16254512
So +7? +8?

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>>16254473
*Matsukaze is coming next
*F4F will be upgradable into F6F planes
*Saratoga is getting a remodel
*More land base planes
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu_Q1W
*New ships: Japanese sub, ship of a new type, Matsukaze and an escort carrier
*new stuff regarding foreign ships in general

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>>16254518
Shitty sub nodes are coming and the only way to beat them will be land based ASW bombers.

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>>16254532
Kill me now.

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>>16254518
>そして丁型駆逐艦
That's Matsu-class, folks.

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>>16254543
You're right, I'm retarded. It's a Matsu-class.

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>>16254518
>乙型

More Akizuki-class, or the simplified variants?

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>>16254543
>>16254556
Were they any good?

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>>16254518
>Saratoga is getting a remodel
Any reason why?

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>>16254562
Jets?

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>>16254561
They were essentially DEs.

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>>16254518
WHERE ARE THE PASTA REMODELS AT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>16254562
So people will stop saying Yoshinori ships will never get a second remodel.

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>>16254513
So, Poi is Coma-chan?

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>>16254572
Yes.

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>>16254562
Why do you think there was a catapult in play this event?

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>>16254560
Akizuki-class.

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・劇場版にはプロット＆コンセプトだけでなく脚本・設定・収録にも参加
・冒頭の夜戦の部分はたっぷり描けたけど、後半は尺の都合などで泣く泣く削った部分もあった

・来年早いタイミングで実装することが「朝風」のν艦を実現準備中
>*Matsukaze is coming next
This one? Not sure what it means.

・F4Fシリーズは装備更新で後継機のF6Fシリーズにも繋がっています
>*F4F will be upgradable into F6F planes
Yup.

・サラトガ自身にも新たな改装を計画
>*Saratoga is getting a remodel
Yup.

・噴霧式航空機は装備ではあるが純然たる戦闘機型も実装したい
>*More land base planes
It just says that jet fighters will be implemented. Nothing about land base planes (although technically you can put them in the land base as well).

・対潜哨戒マシンである「東海」も来年は実装したい
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyushu_Q1W
Yup.

・新艦娘は日本艦では潜水艦、乙型、それ丁型駆逐艦、さらに護衛空母の実装を予定
>*New ships: Japanese sub, ship of a new type, Matsukaze and an escort carrier
I think these will be the new subs, so just more of I-19's sisters.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/伊十五型潜水艦
DDs referred to here are Matsu-class DDs, not Matsukaze. Escort carriers seems right, but I get this feeling that they'll implement more than just one.

・来年の海外艦はおもしろいとこも用意しています
>*new stuff regarding foreign ships in general
Yup, more foreign ships next year.

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>>16254584
>*Saratoga is getting a remodel
Yup.

holy shit

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>>16254532
That looks suspiciously similar to the Ju88

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>>16254584
Asakaze talks about her all the time.

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>>16254584
Oh wait, scratch that. It's probably DDs that's 乙型 (so Akizuki-class) and not subs.

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>>16254518
More land based shit.
I know the devs pretty much used up everything the IJN had when it came to actual naval warfare, but this is getting out of hand.

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>Sara is getting a remodel

Are you kidding me, how fast did Bisko get her Zwei?

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>>16254599
>land planes are not part of the IJN

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>>16254518
>Japanese sub

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-201-class_submarine

I want to believe.

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>>16254617
About a month after she was added.

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Sara is going to need a catapult for the remodel. Then a quest for a catapult will show up in a maintenance after her kai ni, not at the same time.

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>>16254622
That's fine, I still have the catapult from summer 15.

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this is interesting enough

Sara's remodel is deffentaly meant to be added so that the shoukaku sisters are not the only ones who can handle the jets.

I think they might add in more jet planes to go along with what we have. I think we were also being used to test out how players would react to having to upgrade these jets.

I will be enjoying the tears of those who sank/scrapped Sara-chan.

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>>16254595
Even her christmas line does, makes me think they were going to add her last event but decided it was 1 trophy too many.

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>・来年早いタイミングで実装すべく「朝風」の僚艦を実装準備中
Ship/s in the same fleet with Asakaze coming early next year.

>・F4Fシリーズは装備更新で後継機のF6Fシリーズにも繋がっていく
F4F will be upgradeable to F6F.

>・Saratoga自身にも新たな改装を計画
Further remodel planned for Saratoga.

>・噴式航空機はif装備ではあるが純然たる戦闘機型も実装したい
A hypothetical (if) pure jet fighter with no bombing capability may be introduced.

>・対潜哨戒機である「東海」も来年は実装したい
ASW Tokai may be introduced.

>・新艦娘は日本艦では潜水艦、乙型、そして丁型駆逐艦、さらに護衛空母の実装を予定
New Japanese ships include SS, type-B and type-D destroyers

>・来年の海外艦はおもしろいところも用意していくことを予定
Next year's foreign ships will include "interesting choices".

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>>16254617
>>16254621
Implemented: 2014 March 14
Zwei: 2014 June 20
Drei: 2014 September 26

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>>16254629
>・新艦娘は日本艦では潜水艦、乙型、そして丁型駆逐艦、さらに護衛空母の実装を予定
>New Japanese ships include submarines, type-B and type-D destroyers and escort carriers.

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>>16254518
>god tier white
>meh tier navy blue
>shit tier camo
Sara is ruined in less than a month, Kawakaze tier ruined.

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>>16254629
>"interesting choices"

This is code for "literally whos" right?

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>>16254629
So just to confirm, the 乙型 is for 駆逐艦 and not 潜水艦 right?

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>>16254638
Here's hoping it's literally whos from new countries as opposed to literal whos from the big ones.

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>>16254637
>Camo
>Bad
Enjoy being spotted nerd

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>>16254629
>may be introduced
So we can discard them from the confirmed news.

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>>16254637
Iowa has camo, you know. USN camo != IJN camo. For one thing it's blue, not green.

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I wish they added another German sub so I could turn Yuu into a Mexican.

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>>16254629
>>16254638
>>16254644
はおもしろいところ means interesting places, so it means foreign ships from interesting places.

>>16254663
>Mexican
Argentinian :^)

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>>16254639
Yes

>>16254656
A more literal translation would be "Tanaka wants to introduce pure jet fighter and Tokai next year." So yeah, they're planned, but not as certain as F6F or Sara's remodel.

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>>16254644
How about no.

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So I'm supposed to be upgrading the F4F now right?

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>>16254669
No

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>>16254669
You probably wont be able to upgrade F6F and Sara will come with it at kai 2, so no.

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The only halfway-relevant navy without a representative at this point is Australia, MAYBE Russia

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>>16254562
Because she was one of the three pre-war, USN carriers to survive the war.

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>>16254629
What are the first 2 lines?

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>>16254630
Why does the wiki say Zwei was on April 23rd then?

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>>16254473
Muh dick.

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>>16254518
>ship of a new type
Playable Mamiya/Irako?

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>>16254685
I don't know, I took the news from wikiwiki.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%BE%F0%CA%F3%C1%D2%B8%CB%2F%B1%BF%B1%C4%C4%C3%BC%E9%C9%DC%A4%AB%A4%E9%A4%CE%A4%AA%C3%CE%A4%E9%A4%BB%2F2014

But Bisko zwei was a blueprint remodel, and I'm 100% sure it wasn't the first blueprint remodel to be implemented (that's Tone-class kai 2).

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>>16254682
Movie related stuff. Basically Tanaka was involved in its script, background setting, recording. A lot was cut from the movie's latter half.

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>>16254689
Weird.
http://pastebin.com/txwvdFfC
>Tone, Chikuma and Bismarck received a second remodel, with Tone-class being reclassified as CAVs. This can be unlocked by using a special Blueprint item, obtainable by trading Extra Operation and Event maps badges.

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-The next Kai 2 will be for a CA. Saratoga will also get a second remodel, along with F4F (Wildcat) planes being upgradable to F6F (Hellcat) planes.
-2017 will see foreign ships from "interesting places". Matsukaze and/or Hatakaze will also be implemented early that year.
-New submarines, Akizuki- and Matsu-class destroyers, and escort carriers are also under plans to be added.

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>>16254669
Only if you love Sara like me.

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>>16254663
I want das Boot as shipgirl.

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>>16254689
The June 20 update was an increase in her Zwei stats, look at the April 23 update. Bisko Zwei is right there on the first line.

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>>16254693
Will we finally get Fuyutsuki in the 2017 Winter event?
White hair or bust

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>>16254703
Seems very likely

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>>16254665
>はおもしろいところ means interesting places
Japan is interesting.

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>>16254665
So we might actually get something stupid like finnish ships?

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>>16254674
>Bearcats are literally in the game.
>Won't be able to upgrade F6F.

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>>16254692
>>16254700
Fine, I messed that up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254711
Abyssal equipment is not shipgirl equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254708
Fug, meant おもしろいところ not はおもしろいところ

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254710
Probably the Dutch ships. Remember they were also part of ABDA. Also Australia but those are just an extension of British ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254665
What countries with at least DDs or subs that weren't neutral in the war are left? USSR (Bep doesn't count), Finland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Greece, what else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254710
I would say Russian. But Russia is not an interesting place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254674
Not likely unless F6Fs give something absurd like 12 AA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254665
>>16254708
Fug, meant おもしろいところ not はおもしろいところ

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254728
Well current American planes have placebo stats. The F4F-4 is also a three star plane. So I guess F6F-3 will be 4 stars and F6F-5 will be 5 stars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254622
I hope they don't pull this shit again, what the fuck is the point in having them as rewards? What happened to exclusivity?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254736
What if 6 stars again? Imagine the screw cost though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254737
The exclusivity lies in you having her at kai ni for months before the scrubs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254721
Netherlands and I guess Straya and Canada.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254739
6 stars will be the bearcat or the XF6F-6.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254737
The point is for the potential for dupes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254721
The Netherlands.
D in ABDA stood for Dutch.
I wouldn't call Russia an interesting place.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been levelling random DDs to 75 in hopes they get Kai Ni. I just finished Bono, who do I level next?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254737
It's a status symbol or dupes. Don't be a dumbass.
That's something you can have that newfags won't. In fact it means you can afford to sink your cranes unlike newfags, or easyshitters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254737
There will never be exclusive remodels or ships so everyone can get them eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

Austro-Hungarian Navy when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254518
He just hates pastas, doesn't he?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254674
>Won't be able to upgrade the F6F
>Literally two variants made it to production
F6F-3 to F6F-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254760
They didn't exist anymore after WW1, so I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254757
>you can afford to sink your cranes unlike newfag
Son, instead of thinking like a shitter, think the other way around: you can lock cranes in some map and have another pair ready for the real hardass map.

Considering sinking when it comes to dupe like that is moronic

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254775
Well I don't really keep much dupes, due to having space only for 220 ships. So I don't really care to have dupes of cranes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254772
>you will never have a cute Szent Istvan in your office to cook you gulyas

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254763
Considering the Drifters anime, apparently there must be a few people in Japan that do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254737

Because otherwise the casuals would riot. Look at Shoukaku/Zuikaku now, with jets, not to mention the whole armoured carrier thing where they can still attack even in the orange. It's a pretty big part of the late-game/endgame meta, and denying a lot of people that option would be a pretty brutal move on their part.

I can understand the whole "exclusivity" thing, but when the power creep is very real, and the gear is an important part of that power creep, of course they're going to open it up to everyone at some point. Those of us who got the catapult during the event simply gain access to whatever the new stuff is earlier than everyone else, that's all.

Not to mention that this event effectively killed any sense of the rewards scaling according to difficulty, and, if anything, only seemed to punish players for choosing Hard, what with E-4 and the E-5 Hard-exclusive shiplock. I cleared everything on Hard anyway, but it didn't feel nearly as rewarding as, say, an all-Hard run during Spring or Summer. Especially since those 2 events gave us ridiculously good LBAS planes on Hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254755
Amatsukaze.

[Anonymous No.]

Press F to pay your respects.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254763
Why do you say this? There's more pasta ships than any other single foreign country and except one they are all above average for their ship type.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254751
Maybe for Jap, Russia is interesting place for them?
They're neighbors after all.

[Anonymous No.]

> Tfw Fuyutsuki by Shibafu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254818
F

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>>16254829
>They're neighbors after all.
If anything that would make them less interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254839
Be thankful that all of the elites would be handled by Yoshinori, you ungrateful Algerian.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop dropping bongs why are you doing this to me desire sensor let me get done with the cvls already

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254737
I hope you never design the game. In fact that's how you lose players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254869
>exclusivity
Which reminds me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254877
This and Reppuu Kai seriously need an update to get rid of the excess gloss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254869
This, the reason I'm playing KC at all is you can catch them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254877
Don't forget the ranking reward planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254686
Why did they chop it off and what is Akashi planning to do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>There won't be Kaga Kai Ni
>The catapult will be for Saratoga
>Kaga keeps falling in the ranking

Today is a good day

[Anonymous No.]

>make shit exclusive to oldfags
>muh poor game design
>don't make shit exclusive to oldfags
>muh power creep
How do we fix this lads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254915
You know, I wonder if the Midway will get PTSD in the 4-koma with the SBD?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254917
There is nothing wrong with ranking rewards being exclusive.
Event rewards are another thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254917
Add in coop for events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254917
I just want to know if I can make a spare set of cranes or not.

[Anonymous No.]

How fucking bizarre. The Ryuusei sprite in the scrapping menu 'breathes' like your secretary ship does.

I might be going insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254918
Do they remember Midway in the 4-koma? They certainly do not in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254917
Power creep is inevitable since Tanaka is going for the historical accuracy angle. All they can do is carefully pick and choose what gets added without making it a pointless addition like torpedo bulges or underpowered like Zara or overpowered like Bismarck Drei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254929
I think you are

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254915
>>Kaga keeps falling in the ranking
Sara is better than her even without second remodel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254935
>Bismarck Drei
>overpowered
Top lel

[Anonymous No.]

Either I'm going senile, or IS THAT REALLY BEWBS?!

[Anonymous No.]

Will Matsu class have high speed or low speed? 27.3 for the original Matsu and 27.8 knots for the Tachibana type is the listed top speed for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254957
Yep, he finally had the operation, take responsibility.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Kf-sq1Gbk

Demo with Kikka and Jet Keiun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254951
>2 remodels
>deemed so shit, you decide to fuse her with another ship

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254937
I'm not, I'm telling you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254637
>>16254654
>>16254662
The thing about Sara's Camo is that she along with many other USN ships switched back to measure 32 or to grey. Since Camo was deemed pointless against the special attack force.

[Anonymous No.]

God dammit.
I finally get the engines and it's past the Keiun upgrade window.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254995
Yeah it's actually questionable if Saratoga will have her Camo or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254665
>はおもしろいところ means interesting places, so it means foreign ships from interesting places.
Well, if it means anything, Brazil had some ships in WWII such as this BB. Could also be Dutch, Finnish, Turkish, etc

>>16254727
Russia is interesting; have you seen those dashcam videos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254935
Then just embrace the power creep.

[Anonymous No.]

Well considering Yoshinori has one of the LN's he draws for getting an anime next year, perhaps that's why USN ships will be slower to be implemented into the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254931
Hiyou says "getting revenge for Midway" or something along those lines in the game, and I think early in the 4Koma Akagi gets some PTSD from someone mentioning Midway, but that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255027
I was talking about the carriers who participated in Midway. Should have clarified that. But I guess in the 4-koma Akagi sort of does.

[Anonymous No.]

Just what is the Royal Navy planning? I think they are up to no good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255004
>Well, if it means anything, Brazil had some ships in WWII such as this BB. Could also be Dutch, Finnish, Turkish, etc

I'm betting on Finnish, they love the Finn's in anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255047
Yeah they seem to remember Netherlands, Finns and Swedes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255004
>Brazil
Kraut bullying soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255047
As long as we get a kanmusu edit of this I'm happy

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Tanaka not give them the K2 they deserve?

[Anonymous No.]

Is she literally who enough to show up?

[Anonymous No.]

But how will Sara even equip jets? Is she literally drawing on the power of her successor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255080
Blueprint + catapult remodels :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255080
A catapult?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255080
Sekrit blueprints)))

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't the devs make medals from EOs exchangeable for catapults, damn it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255080
Well they did do studies on her and apparently she could have fit jets with folding wings easily in her hangar due to it being high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255072
>deserve
Only Akagi deserves it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255079

That wouldn't be so bad. It was true that she was arguably the most powerful DD in Europe when the war broke out.

[Anonymous No.]

Dive bombers. What are they even good for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255112

Only for support expeditions and for meme stuff like Spring event.

Kill yourself Tanaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255112
4-5 so carriers don't attack Wanko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255112
Ekusas for support expeditions, the rest are trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255108
No mighty japenese torps folded a thousand times always means shit yasen damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255136

Prinz Eugen disagrees.

I wouldnt expect her to reach Poi levels of FP though because muh nightmare of the Solomons.

[Anonymous No.]

>Japanese Torpedo Bias
>Japanese Torpedo Plane Bias
When will the nips admit they lost the war

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255136
Good, we need less shit ships and more dedicated AA ships or an equivalent to Asashio K2D without needing marriage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255145

I don't care if they lost or won thee war. I want muh Sunday Punch with which they wrecked so many ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255145
The TBD was shit.
That said the Italian torpedoes were good at that start of the war.

[Anonymous No.]

http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=10580492
According to the chink translations, Tanaka wants to implement both "if" and actual historical jet fighters. Though the translator didn't catch the part about Asakaze's colleagues.

And it seems that most of the plans are set for the 4th and 5th years of the game's life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255145
Wait for Victory Belles

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255143
Even fucking Laffey or Johnston wouldn't reach retardachi levels of FP because muh solomons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255145
>bias
>so good it indirectly sunk Choukai

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255004
Turkey didn't take part at the war, I doubt it'd get in. Or at least any time soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255145
IIRC nip torp planes weren't that good either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255158
That shitheap didn't get funding, did it..?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255145
Because the Type 93 was the best surface torpedo of the war.
British and Americans would reach the Japanese Aerial torpedo though.
On submarines, while you need a capable torp, doctrine also matters a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255165

They introduced a succesor to the B5N too late. The Tenzan and later the Ryuusei could have been excellent torpedo bombers but without fighter cover they were the most vulnerable attack planes of any air strike, just as the Avengers or the Devastators.

By the time they were introduced, the murricans had already completely ooutmatched the Zero with their Hellcats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255172
And it never will.
>>16255165
I thought they had a capable bomber in the Ryuusei. The actual problem with aerial torpedo bombing comes from the inherent faults of aerial torpedo bombing anything other than a submarine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255172
We're lucky Tanaka had a clear vision of what he wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255172
It did. I don't know the status of it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255180
Please don't post that shit here. It makes Chinkcolle look good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255175
Apparently early on in the game they got shot down more often if you didn't get AS or AS+, is that true?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255180
The rigging is so off-model they completely missed the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255180
Why in the fuck give Kitakami an axe?

Actually, why do so many have cutting weapons of some sort?
This is awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255185

That was a missconception back when people didn't fully understand how air combat was. Now we know that people used to put torpedo bomber in the biggest slots and dive bombers in the smaller slots.

Since loses from opening air combat are based on a percentage, the bigger slot received a bigger loss of planes than an smaller slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255201
Because she is a cut-in ship, you get it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255202
Huh, alright, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255172
>>16255182
I've lost additional bit of hope in humanity I didn't know I had.

>>16255201
Golf is still my favorite.

[Anonymous No.]

Do jet planes get chevrons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255201
>torpedo cruiser
>give her more guns than torpedo tubes

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255209
As it happens I just scrolled past it.

Pass the bleach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255211
Yes. Fifteen'ish 1-1 runs should max them out.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, I just heard new Akashi's workshop bgm. So fucking hyped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255219
Well shit, there's absolutely nothing memorable about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255209

I never doubted they'd get funded. I mean, there are enough EOPeasants who want everything they consume in english yet want to get weeb shit so 30k was a pretty tame goal.

What I wanted to know was wether they'd fix their horrible chara design.

Well, that's just another game I'll try joitly with Warship girls if it ever gets an english localization, which wouldn't surprise me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255219
Who the fuck is that?

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone repost that table about steel loses per battle from jets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255225
They haven't shown any gameplay. I'm not sure they'll be able to create something playable.

>>16255219
The feet looks really off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255209
>>16255219
>a good deal of the backers were Japs
>there are nips that actually believe shit like this deserves to exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255227
That is Chiyoda, can't you tell? That ship just reeks of golf, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255209
>$100k
>1000 backers

People giving them $100 on average sounds like bullshit to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255242

I've seen people donate 2k dollars to streamers out of the blue so it doesn't surprise me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255221
It's new? It sounds the same to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255242
More likely, they found a few "whales".

>>16255220
Thanks anon. I still have the w3 weekly to do so I can just bring turkey there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255247
There's a new one that should play when making jets I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255247
Oh, it's birth of the jets theme.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255234
>The feet looks really off.
Then perhaps their depiction of Surcouf would please you more?

Help yourselves to the project tumblr page if you want more, I won't shit up the thread more than is necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255242
You'd be surprised what kind of money wagies with nothing else in their life will throw around

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255252
Be prepared for infinite error messages if you use >Kc3
It seems the app doesn't know how to handle the new API strings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255257
forgot the picture

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255265
I don't use viewers but thanks for the warning.

>>16255268
Whoever thought this was a good idea is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255268
>yet another sword
This is what taking inspiration from Ayaki gets you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255219
Their bucky looks kind of cool, but the other ships were generally inducing varying degrees of puke as I scrolled through. Stereotypes, stupid hats/accessories - I never noticed how well and subtle at the same time the original can-this pulls it all of.

[Anonymous No.]

If I chevron my Keiun and then upgrade to jet, will it lose the rank?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255285

yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255288
Shit. Thanks anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255268
>webbed heels

What drugs are they using?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255276
Their Scharnhorst doesn't look completely terrible, salvageable at worst.

[Anonymous No.]

You do know what this is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255308
It's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255276
Even Fubuki doesn't make any sense. Their version is like a textbook sword girl with snow themed gear. How the fuck can they even call that a ship girl?.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255220
>sparkling jets on 1-1
costanza.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255308
Of course, it is posted every thread.
Sometimes several times per thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>Saratoga gets K2
Will we still get Enterprise?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255336
Enterprise is the ultimate hype machine, they'll bring her when running out of options.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255344
Kind of the strongest characters that can be unlocked after newgame+?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255350
Kind of like having to play all routes of a VN before unlocking the route of the girl you actually like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255350
She is basically the former last boss who only joins you at the last stage of video game and even if you have carefully min-maxed and given the correct skills to all your characters, she ends up outclassing most if not all your party anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255350
So basically a special character in Kancolle small c II for pre-registered Kancolle small c I players?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255235
It was shilled pretty hard in Japan with things like "doing things our competition wont do", which I'm guessing is more foreign ships right out of the box and muh native languages, but most see it as a laughably bad ripoff with questionable design and art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255308
Dat magic bowstring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254367
Tenzan 12 Tomonaga and Murata

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255344
>Enterprise is the ultimate hype machine

So literally Half-Life 3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254637
Has there ever been a time when a K2 DIDN'T cause massive amounts of butthurt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254561
Great ASW (possible innate oASW) and good AACI (better than non-Akizuki-class DDs). Shit firepower and torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255458
Kitakami!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255458
Shigure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255458
Zuikaku would've been it, but
>longkaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255157
>most of the plans are set for the 4th and 5th years
Why is anyone even excited?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254663
I wish they introduced another german sub so I could finally sortie someone worthy along Ro-chan.

[Anonymous No.]

Quick, where do I farm carrier kills?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255482
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255482
Just over there buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255482
2-1

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255482
5-5

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255480
Good news!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255473
>longkaku
Aesthetic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255496
But Hachi is a phony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255479
This game will be 4 years old next year. It isn't even that far into the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255499
Her day 1 sprite had the wrong aspect ratio, was patched eventually after Conishi pointed it out.

[Anonymous No.]

I love meat!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255508
Funny enough, the little rectangle still has her narrow head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255518
Looks fine to me, when's the last time you deleted your cache?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255496
Hachi has 49 evasion, she sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255508
Oh man, I remember that, that look reminded me of benedict cumberbatch

[Anonymous No.]

Who are you guys leveling up for the next event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255526
Oh, is that it? I don't remember actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255530
Saratoga. I will inflict the curse of Benedict Arnold on all who oppose me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255530
Sara-nee is already at 90 for me and Aoba is around 70 and I plan to get her to at least 75 so I don't have much to do except continuing getting these worthless jets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255480
How about an American submarine then? Like Albacore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255530
Dupe Maya and Dupe Akitsumaru.

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly find it funny that some of the Japanese players find the nickname Sara Maru to be cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255530
my right arm
To busy in idleColle

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255544
They find all those nicknames cute, they especially love Sister Sara it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255530
>10 pages of girls at level 90+
>5 at 99+
>nobody left besides Kinu, Sara and Teste

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255539
Cool, as long as she can actually avoid hits, kill CVLs and doesn't take three hours to repair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255539
USS Cavalla or bust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255552
5 pages of 99+?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255554
Albacore can even kill armored CVs :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255554
Well she killed Taihou and Tenryuu. Though Taihou was a true fluke. She also sunk ooshio and Sazanami with faulty torpedoes somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

I need this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255568
>Taihou was a true fluke
There was no fluke, Taihou was a mess, a big fat mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255568
How about seaplanes? I hope she wouldn't have a chance to become SSV. I already have enough LoS mules in Shioi, Hachi, Iku and Nimu, I want a sub that is useful combat-wise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255573
Rude, she's not fat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255563
this is a pretty great album, did they create any other music since then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255579
>combat-wise
>subs
You're not getting far with all the ASW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255573
She was the best IJN design though. One of the few IJN carriers that had an upright smokestack. Also wasn't Ark royal lost to one torpedo too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255571

There is a doll fag thread here in /jp/ so they'll probably know better, but it doesn't look that good to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255579
American submarines had more extensive radar equipment and thus did not need seaplanes. They were slower to dive than the German submarines but made up for it by detecting their enemies earlier. Also I think they were faster at diving than Japanese submarines. They also had air condition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255580
Her farts sure were

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255600

They were much more silent too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255600
That sounds like good evasion stats and nice placebo torps. Exactly what I want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255639
speaking of placebo torps, what's the point of the torps on the taisho girls?

those 53cm tubes are just that bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255639
>wasting valuable foreign ship space on a sub
>just because you are too cheap to use a bucket

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255639
You will get a crappy torp if any. But the submarine will have a high torp stat at kai. Though only if it's Sealion II, Albacore, Harder and a few others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255530
Everyone I have.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I even bother to fight the 5-4 boss with fleet in this shape?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255643
I doubt they were bad. They just couldn't fit the type 93 torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255656
No no, I mean in game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255643
I want to scrap them so bad but rocket launchers gave me paranoia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255661
They are old torpedoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255530
Other than the new ships, pretty much just farming fodder.

[Anonymous No.]

Doge is coming for that boat booty!

[Anonymous No.]

if you change the i in iowa for another o and then read iowa backwards what would happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731
cant spell iowa without WASSHOI!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731
fantastic post

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731
AWOL? Can't expect better form Burgers I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731
Anon, you're a genius.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731
>16255731
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255751
He said for another O not an L.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254518
What does an escort carrier even do? I always thought Akitsu Maru was exactly that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731

God damm it anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731
AWOO?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731
I don't get it. It just reads Ah woo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255799

Party's OVER.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255799
>>16255808
exactly

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255792
Hunt and sink submarines, mostly. The USN also used escort carriers to back up the USMC in their island-hopping campaign.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255792
Hunt submarines. Support landing operations. They mainly work in areas where you have Air superiority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255731
Best kancolle general post in fucking months
Top shelf
god damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255839
Your general must be really shit then, I never posted on /jp/ before and just came here to post that thought I had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255853
Not really, it's not that bad.
It's much worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255853
it's a game general, of course it's shitty

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255853
This entire board can get pretty shit, and of course game generals are bad.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255859
>>16255864
>>16255877
But only patricians like Kancolle.
I thought the general could be on pair with the title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255897
>only patricians like Kancolle
Are you kidding me? With all these Bongo-, Kaga-, Poi- and shitgurefuckers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255853
It's just that your post was fresh so it had a strong impact. Variety can be good.

[Anonymous No.]

>like Greenkaku
>don't want to change to K2A

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255926
>not having a dupe for that express purpose

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255918
I thought the only people who liked Poi dog anymore were on /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255926
>liking vomit

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255926
I'm in the same boat. Even more so as she has my ring. At least remodel Shoucucku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255942
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.]

Which Potato is your favorite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255942
>Shoucucku
Shoukaku is a good girl!
>>16255945
The fuck does this have to do with /pol/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255952
His need to stuck "cuck" everywhere. Shitposting in short.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
Mikuma for sure, she's a cutie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255954
But "Shoucucku" originated outside /pol/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
All carriers, except Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
They are all so uninteresting besides Isonami and Mogami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
Super KTKM-sama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
Isonami and anyone who says otherwise has shit taste.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the purpose of zero type 32? Draining ones' screws for nothing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
best CV

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255964
And? Only shiptosters would even think such an abomination was a good idea. It doesn't matter where this specific instance originated from. What matters is that it's an example of cancerous behavior. Tolerate this and people like him will be sticking "cucks", "smhs" etc. everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255969
Are you, by any chance, Stoneflame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255977
But Sara isn't a potato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255979
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>Nuka-Cola loses her medium range at kai
Boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255992
She'll get it back at kai Ni, perhaps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255991
I think I saw that name a few times on sadpanda as uploader.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256000
Wait, there's Isonami doujinshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
Carriers and torp cruisers only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256002
>Kamelie

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256007
>he doesn't like extreme sameface

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256002
There's like 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951

Soryuu, of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256012
At least Kamelie's sameface is cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256007
I like how that artist seems to go out of his way to make doujins for unpopular girls, too bad about the sameface and lightsabers.

[Anonymous No.]

How can I get rid of spoilers on bottom?

[Anonymous No.]

Will Sara kai ni be able to launch planes at night?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256032
Play without botnet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256031
I'm hoping Ichikawa Feesu does an Isonami (or any other Shibafu DD) doujin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256032
File - settings - window - show status bar

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
Everyone in the last 3 rows. Personally, I'd single out Ise, but it's just a baseless preference.

Maybe his artstyle is hit and miss, but he's a good character designer. His girls look simple but very memorable and instantly recognizable(aside from early DDs, you know, Uranami is a big improvement). He's much like Takeuchi in that aspect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256052
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.]

Can AVs be used as fodder in the mod quest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256036
She will launch jets. Or maybe she will just be a straight up upgrade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
This one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256036
Sara Kai 2 α will be able to use jets, launch planes at Taiha, launch planes at night as a form of cut-in attack, get nuclear damage boost against boss-type enemies, sink submarines by merely gazing at them, perform AACI with fighters, cure erectile dysfunction and cancer, make Kuso Ichiso quit and fix Kancolle anime.

As a downside, remodeling process will consume a blueprint, prototype flight deck and 3 甲 grade medals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256050
Why does this guy want to fuck Isowind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
Isonami, Ayanami, Akagi, Souryuu and Mikuma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256082
>wind

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256082
She's a pretty girl with a nice midriff. If you're asking why would someone want to fuck a pretty girl with a nice midriff, there's probably something wrong with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
Ayanami

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256074
Sold!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256082
Because she is really cute, and I will fight you in real life if you try to contest this fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256092
>>16256096
She's ugly as fuck. What is pretty are some of her fanarts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255463
The regular kai art was so much better, they just turned them into sleazy sluts with the k2 art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256100
No shit all potato DD sprites are bad, except Ayanami K2.

[Anonymous No.]

So do you think we will get both variants of Hellcat? F6F-3 and F6F-5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256111
Considering the other USN planes the Hellcats with placebo stats meme will become real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256111
No, there isn't enough readily available planes for you to choose like choosing between Zero 21/32/52 or T89 and big daihatsu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256096
Go back to leudit, StoneFlame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256108
Yeah but Isonami is the worst of them in my opinion so I don't get why she specifically gets praised for being cute all the time. Miyuki at least has a nice grin, Shikinami has a peace sign and Shirayuki has twintails.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256123
Submissive personality?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
I think they're all serviceable, but my favorite design is Ise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256123
>so I don't get why she specifically gets praised for being cute all the time

Because people like her voice and lines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256123
To rape, exactly like Yamakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256074
Nah, that's Kaga Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256140
Nah, that's Akagi Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256146
Nah, that's Taihou Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256148
Nah, that's Houshou Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256131
Also I think the braids with ribbons are cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256150
>CV
But where's the flight deck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256155

It's that glowing hole on her hat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256140
If anything, Kaga Kai 2 will kill the game as Fubuki did with the number of remodels per year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256171
She loses the hat when debuffed though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256172
>kill the game as Fubuki did
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256152
Nah, that's Aquila Due.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256148
Will her fart get some kind of upgrade too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256174
She has more glowing holes, don't worry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256187
>Aquila Due
>CVL k2 stats

[Anonymous No.]

Asakaze with messy hair really is a sight for sore eyes, just sayin'

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256123
Miyuki is also very cute.

[Anonymous No.]

C91 when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256155
It's on her head.
It's literally the fucking top part of the real Saratoga she's wearing for a hat.
She is Wo Prime. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256220
Cute, but too noisy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256225
>chimney

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256225
>Kaga is a Wo in the movie
>Saratoga is Wo Prime.
What does it mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256254
It means that the movie isn't canon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256221
Not soon enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256262
It really isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256271
That reminds me. Can I get Zuikaku through the regular construction? Because I already got Shoukaku in LSC, aiming for Thai ho, 15 attempts at non-LSC were unsuccessful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256285
Yeah, but you have way more chances to get her with a LSC attempt compared to a regular construction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256285
>Can I get Zuikaku through the regular construction?
Yes, you can, but the chance is very low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256193
Yes, that's the nuclear damage.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't wait for LoS requirements in next event.

[Anonymous No.]

New LSC ships fucking when holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256285
It's better to farm 5-4. Do Bw1 and Bw4 there and you should get her in first or second week. Pic related, I'm doing Bw4 now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256285
I actually got mine through it.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, I want to fuck a submarine!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256285
Did both 5-4 and daily construction with the rare cv recipe for a week to get them. Both came from construction funnily enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256357
I want to fuck 7 submarines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256326

>Max 20.3 (2)
>Thinking 85 Los is something big

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256328
LSC was a mistake, this is a fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256367
Good man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256379
Please do not bully 20.3 (2).
It's a decent alternative to 20.3 (3).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256388

No, it isn't. Even upgrading base 20.3 is a better idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256326
>upgraded 20.3cm year 2s
HISS

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256357
I want to rape all the submarines.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60332146

[Anonymous No.]

>only 1k bauxite wasted for crafting two ryuusei
Based dork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256388
(2) got bullied out of the good guns list due to hidden meme bonuses, so they are "officially" shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256379
(3) aren't maxed yet, they wouldn't look as pretty. (2) are the best for main fleet anyway and she often is the flagship so really, nothing wrong with that.

Base LoS matters much less than equipment.

>>16256394
So cute!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256220
Miyuki has the best smile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256394
>Best guess for this image: cutest kitten in the whole world

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256416
Dude I don't even know. I found it on imgur years ago.
Matter of fact I have a whole folder I'd completely forgot about full of tiny snakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256404
Do you mean the accuracy bonus?
I think it's not going to matters much as long as you pair (2) with (3)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256444
(2) cancels out (3)'s bonus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256444
Not to mention the bonus is only applicable in yasen and only on CAs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256450
No, it doesn't. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>people unironically making a case for (2)s

[Anonymous No.]

After six million orel runs, nimu can be remodelled and finally rest!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256496
>Finally rest

You already threw here into Oreling there's no going back, she's already scarred.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256501
Warrior's rest, or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256496
>rest
Surely you jest. There is no escape from Orel inferno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256496
Only the scraped can know peace from this cruising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255530
Just finished Kasumi and Kinugasa, next is Commandant Teste, Mizuho and Saratoga.
If I could just get Taihou, I would that one too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256506
>>16256516

No, Orel is for Rochan only. (and maybe Imuya)

SSVs get to sleep all day unless I have to subcheese something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
I can't decide between Kitakami, Hatsuyuki, Isonami, Ayanami, Hyuuga and Shioi.

[Anonymous No.]

damn I forgot how slow 3-2 levelling is. even doing 60 sorties a day I still have a week to go to get everyone to 65. when should I switch to 5-4? but then testes is slow so I would have to go through the whirlpool so maybe it's better to stay on 3-2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256530
PvP flagship and 3-3 weekly, no need to rush level with the event still months away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255587
That's one strange thing about their carriers. What were they trying to accomplish in Hiryuu/Shoukaku and so on that the smoke chimney were on the side and pointing down? Did they think it'd get in the way of the landing/take off of planes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
The Queen Potato of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256537
I need to level furutakas for the mikawa quest and I want to use testes for 6-3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256530
You can do 5-4-A just like 3-2-A, you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256541
Phony.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want sara to become black why game why give me a k2 where she becomes white again thanks game

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256595
>black
Its navy blue.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, I thought seaplane fighters couldn't be shot down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256628
They work just like normal fighters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256628

They behave like any fighter anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't taihou equip jets. This is blasphemy

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256658
Taihou is so fucking overrated, I hope she gets shat on by Sara Mk.2. My PvP list always has 1 fag with her married.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256662
Sara will be shit. Kaga is stronger and better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256658
Armoured catapult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256667
Kaga is worse than her Kai, even Taihou towers over her without even trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256667
Sara and Kaga like each other. You won't change that with your weak attempts. I have married Kaga and will marry Sara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256538
>smoke chimney were on the side and pointing down? Did they think it'd get in the way of the landing/take off of planes?
Something like that. They were right. However you can alleviate the problem by having the smokestack at an angle like the British carriers and Essex class. That was done on Taihou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256676
Nah, Sara and Kaga are different. Sara is more sturdy and has much better first slot but Kaga has much higher evasion and you can do a bit more with her slots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256559
I'm only getting A rank at 3-2 because of the setup I'm using so if I went to 5-4 I would have to use multiple buckets every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256690
Use a different setup then? I doubt you're focusing on giving MVP to Teste.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256676
Not only worse, she's just shit. Should have been Zui Zui and even Shoukaku Sara talked to, not that overrated piece of trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256699
Why don't you post something that wasn't in the previous thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256694
I have teste as flagship and then furutakas, sara, aquila, and maruyu. I'm trying to have sara get mvp, but sometimes aquila steals it and then everyone goes to red morale. since there's no second shelling phase it's harder to get s rank too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256717
Seven torpedo bombers and three-four seaplane bombers should kill quite a lot of stuff. If you're grinding in red morale, use the secondary cut-in on CAs.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any reason to fear 3-5, 4-5, and 5-5?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256731
3-5 is easy when you have a strong fleet, north and south. 4-5 has pretty fucking annoying RNG at the boss because Ru Kai and enemy AP shell. 5-5 route is annoying but the boss is pretty doable.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256658
We have known she couldn't equip jets for more than a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256658
Because she doesn't have a catapult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256759
He now draws eggs instead of potatoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256759
When will this madness stop?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256731
Depends on your fleet. 3-5 has high trolling potential unless your fleet is strong. 4-5 is pretty comfy until last kill which can take a couple of tries but there are times when route decides to waste a bit of your buckets. 5-5 used to be hell but thanks to chevrons it's merely very hard. Be prepared to retreat a lot thanks to Re and get off-routed at least once. I'd say recommended levels would be 55+, 65+ and 80+ respectively.

[Anonymous No.]

One of these things is not like the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256787
Pola isn't the best ship of her nation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256759

[Anonymous No.]

Do you keep medium torpedo bulges? I recently crafted some and am now sitting at six.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256805
Useful for nonremodeled quest ships that you don't intend to keep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256805
I used 1 on Bep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256759

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256807
Hmm, didn't think of it. The problem is, I already have all CAs and CVLs decently leveled.

>>16256810
Oh right, she can use them as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256759
This is even worse than November.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256759
When Shibafu-san stared too long into the potato, the potato stared back into him. He was never the same again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256759

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256759
That's just awful.

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't Kaga and Akagi get their K2s? Sara doesn't deserve one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256759

An abomination, that is what it is. Fucking Yadokari was banned from making Kancolle artwork for months until he finally was restored with Hatsushimo Kai Ni after doing 3 bad artworks for merchandising of the franchise
yet Tanaka is literally letting Shibafu ruin his ships, and he's been doing it for a year already,
like, WTF is Tanaka thinking?!

The worse part is that it keeps gettin lazier and uglier, no signs of maybe been in an slump
or making a fluke, nope, he's been consistently shitting up his own designs

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256865
>French for Teste
>English for Akagi
Does not compute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256875
He's one of his friends so maybe he gets a discount.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256875
>after doing 3 bad artworks for merchandising of the franchise
Which were those?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256868
All three of them deserve Kai Ni. However Akagi and Kaga shouldn't be getting it with current Shibafu's form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256868
Kaga is fucking shit, it's about time Tanaka dropped her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256868
Are you blind or something? Why would you willingly want more of >>16256759

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256868

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256875
>Yadokari was banned from making Kancolle artwork for months
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256895
Akagi is still cute in my heart.
>>16256898
Shut up Haruna. And stop appearing in my nightmares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256895

He's just wishing that so they'd be ruined forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256902
>>16256889

I don't have the artwork right now but he did some awful drawings of the Akatsuki class for a card game and people really noticed how shit they were. Fans complained about it or simply desired for no more Yadokari stuff in the game with that level of quality so it was speculated he wasn't been contacted by Tanaka thanks to that reputation.

So yeah, there was a long period of time in which Yadokari got no comisions from Kancolle staff until he finally came back with Hatsushimo Kai Ni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256920

Ah yeah, one of then was this Inazuma

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256924
Oh wow, that is bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256920

This one too

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256920
Do jap fans not complain about Shibafu's art?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256920
Weiss Schwartz?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256920

This stuff too

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256934

Yeah, that game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256933
They like the potato meme and most fans are normalfags or don't even pay attention to the game at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256933
Some do. Some don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256924
>>16256929
>>16256934
>>16256935

There's definitely something going on with the eyes. Other than that, it doesn't want me to gouge out my eyes like Shibafu's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256924
Wait, so this is a canon hair-down Inazuma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256962

Indeed. These are mostly the artist taking his style to a doujin level where you are allowed to do this kind of stuff but you shouldn't if you are a professional. Result: an almost year long drought of comisions

Nowaday's Shibafu, at least his character design, wouldn't reach Doujin level. Result: Who the fuck cares? He's my friend so I'll let it pass through -3-

>>16256965

You could say that indeed she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256965
More importantly, she has two anchors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256962
Not only the eyes.
1st one: mouth looks like a beak
2nd: head is much larger than usual, also the anatomy of the twisted body sucks
3rd: don't really see anything here that could be worse than his regular art, it actually looks pretty cute
4th: that girl on the right has her limbs' proportions all fucked up, looks like a midget, also dem ears

Even in Hatsushimo's k2 art you can see her arm is a bit fucked up due to the perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256544
Just buy the LBAS construction team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256868
You don't want them to get K2 right now. See >>16256759
If you like them, you should be hoping and praying that they don't get K2 before Shibafu finds his way out of whatever potato themed hell he's drawn himself into.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256991

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256876
Akagi learned all about English during Midway, her last words were literally "I regret never eating American burgers"

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256868
Be careful what you wish for.

[Anonymous No.]

CTF main fleet
>Zuikaku
>Shoukaku
>Saratoga
>Taihou
Support 1
>Akagi
>Unryuu
Support 2
>Hiryuu
>Souryuu
The ultimate fleet, no Kaga in sight. She's now second rate, it's unreal actually. All that was needed is for anyone but Kaga to get remodeled and it's happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257113
Yeah, but the thing is, kai to kai Kaga is the second best after Saratoga. When she gets her kai ni she'll blow every jap out of the water again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257113
Kaga, Taihou and Saratoga are all at similar level. Only Cranes are above them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257113
>Unryuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257113
>Not Akagi and Graf

Shit taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257113
If you really want to statfag replace Akagi/Unryuu with dupe cranes and Souryuu with dupe Taihou. And without dupes Graf would be slightly more powerful for support than Unryuu.

[Anonymous No.]

I want a destroyer that can equip midget sub or otherwise do opening torp inherently. Shimakaze kai ni when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257149
No doppelgangers allowed.

[Anonymous No.]

>Can't upgrade Keiun today
Fuck you, Tanaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256935
Is that Boyshimo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257194

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256933
Here's a thread
http://dec.2chan.net/60/res/11640404.htm

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254686
Since when did Mamiya have such enormous breasts

[Anonymous No.]

>Sara Kai 2 confirmed just a month after being added
Based Tanaka, this makes up for the lack luster performance of jets dive bombers. Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5bcpjUjLpU

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257245
Hold your horses, he didn't say she'd get it right away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257248
I never said so either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255954
>>16255978
Cuckposting originated from /tv/ you double nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257242
Since the beginning, they are huge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257251
That childbearing body.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257227
So, basically ?

[Anonymous No.]

Playable Mamiya when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256868
translate it weebs

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257258

Why do you advertise a model with a picture of it wrecked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257256
She's fat, the clothes look unfinished, faces are getting rounder and rounder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256031
I refuse to believe Hagikaze is the least popular of her DesDiv.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257256
Light-heartedly poking fun at Akagi's chubby face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256069
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257265
Its really hard to tell who's the least popular, they don't seem to care that much about any of the four, Maikaze seems to be the most popular of the four, but not by much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257248
Yeah. Sometime next year could mean literally mean next December.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257265
There's always Arashi. Or, Nowaki maybe.
Hagi is Kamelie's waifu now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257263
They are fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257265
She's bad, only Arashi is cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256177
Some faggot continues to insist that Fubuki kai ni killed off the rate of kai ni even though the rate started going slow only after Maya kai ni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257227
>>16257270
>>16256759

Shouldn't Kaga be the fat one? She was the one with a battleship hull, unlike Akagi who was originally a battlecruiser and thus leaner

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257283
I have a sudden urge to do my best

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257256

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257286
I always knew that bitch was up to know good, I shouldn't have bothered leveling her up to Kai 2 when I already have ducks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256920
So, if somehow sometimes later Shibafu drew a new artwork, and the art is so BAD even nips would be enraged about it too, would Tanaka also let that slide ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257296
He let Ayaki slide.

[Anonymous No.]

What did the nips say about Sara getting a Kai 2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257298
Ayaki is one his friends too?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257296
>enraged
Making another angry Hitler video doesn't really count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257301
Too fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257227
>芋化
I didn't realise they called them potatoes too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257289
Nagato a midget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257309
Guess where the meme was imported from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257313
Must we always copy Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257313
Western fans would think otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256328
When Shinano comes out :^)

>>16256496
>six million
Not even close to six thousand.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh come the fuck on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257320
All you need if for one of them to aim at the flagship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257309
Isn't that a Taro root?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257323
Except I'm doing the bulldozer quest so I need an S-rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257301
Nothing much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257326
Just buy the bulldozer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256544
CAs are easily levelled at 3-3. There's no problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>Aoba K2
>Sara K2
So, who's next? 2017 so far looks like it might be solid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16253482
putting jets on 24 slots can easily be nullified in some maps like 6-5

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257331
You go all the way to boss ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257311
Battleships were typically stockier than battlecruisers of the same era, but much better armored (the Iowa class being an exception since they're built for speed)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257342
That's it. Stay tuned for 2018's kai 2s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257342

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257342
Yukikaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257351
>implying we'll ever see a Chinese ship in game

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257349
I want to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257320
>Abukuma

This is the one map where day double-attack is better.

[Anonymous No.]

I got my engine from germany but I don't see the quest to get a second one. do I need to get the second blueprint first or does this require land base unlocked too?

>>16257331
that will take forever and I want my jets now

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257349
So, Amamiya or Ichiso?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257352
You mean Taiwanese ship :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257349

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257362
Ohh, how cute, Taiwan thinks he's independent :3

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257311
She wasn't, it's just that Tosa-class needed to be larger to fit 5 41cm turrets on her.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate this quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257351
>>16257352

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257286
>>16257295
No it only slowed down after Abukuma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257369
I'm pretty sure the carrier in the picture is Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257377
Fuck you Abubear only came a few months before Cranes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257380
That one was gonna have 5x41cm turrets, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257374
I hate it.

[Anonymous No.]

The CV of French AV is 谷邊由美 same as poi

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257346
Yeah, it's for world 3 quest and farming furniture coins.

>>16257360
You're saying it'll take any longer than 3-2-A? Surely you jest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257388
slowpoke.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257388
Her range is impressive I guess. I couldn't tell

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257395
Its hard to tell when Tanaka asks her to speak like a damn retard in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257374
>>16257387
I did it without Kai 2s, git gud or use support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257387
You didn't even repair Yuubari and Aoba after >>16257374 that's just asking to get taihad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257388
Read the thread >>16254513

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257388
So the reason it was kept secret is because she wasn't an actual voice actor after all.
On that subject some Japanese were happy that Shizuka Itou got a role in Can this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257352
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ning_Hai-class_cruiser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_cruiser_Yat_Sen

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257403
>wasn't an actual voice actor after all.
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257388
MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI MESSI

[Anonymous No.]

What's a vanilla Keiun good for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257382
And were there any remodels in between?

There you go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257410
Bragging right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257410
6-1 LoS

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257410
Not getting double penetrated by Tsu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257401
But I did repair them.

[Anonymous No.]

Who was your favorite K2 this year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257366
This guy knows the good stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256895
>>16257043
>>16257107
A statfag would not care for something as trivial as deteriorating art quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257410
Land base air defense like Saiun but better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257418
>6 remodels all year
>4 were ruined
I guess Kasumi, this is unacceptable.

[Anonymous No.]

https://exhentai.org/g/1005946/7447d18105/

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257392
I can do 3-2 60+ times a day. 3-3 only has 10 more base exp and I can't do it nearly as many times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257431
>6

3 Asashios, Kawakaze, Kinu and ???

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257440
Satsuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257440
Satsuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257436
Consider the fact that you usually all the way to the boss for 3-3 grinding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257440
>forgetting Longsuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257433

>*record scratch*
>*freeze frame*

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257443
>>16257445
>>16257447
Literally who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257443
>>16257445
>>16257447
Oh fuck, my bad. Thought she was from last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257418
Kasumi or Asashio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257447

Longsuki was replaced by Longkuma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257454
How could you forget this cutie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257446
You mean furniture coin box.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257447
>Expedition, OASW, Anti-installation
That smug is justified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257418
I don't know man, its such a toughie, so many to choose from from a wide array of different artists!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257454

The best suki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
Fubuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257468
She also has a simple AACI, which was useful during an event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257470
But that's Mochizuki, your taste is absolute garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257474
>liking a lazy bum

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257325
"芋" by itself can generally mean several different tubers including potatoes. When talking about people it has the connotation of being from the countryside. Both of these are played upon in "potato" jokes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257446
3-3 is only 2 nodes on average. I don't think you can do 30 runs of 3-3 faster than 60 runs of 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257418

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257481
Mochi ma be lazy but she still goes out when given sorties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257474
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257418
Kasumi for character development and Asashio because she became better rape bait. That's it, Satsuki was already cute and Kinu is Kinu.

Don't give a fuck about Ooshio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257418
Asashio and Kasumi were nice, rest were meh or had disappointing art and/or stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257489
2.75 nodes. And not only is the S rank rate higher, they lose morale much less slowly.

[Anonymous No.]

>there were retards who thought they were going to replace Abucute with Kinushit

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257501
>Kawakaze
>meh
Bruh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257500
>Kinu is Kinu
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257509
>Kawakaze
>not shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257506
Anybody have the pic of the guy who scrapped ABKM for Kinu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257431
I though Kind looked good. Satsuki too.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257509
She falls under >or had disappointing art

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257510
As in she was already lame except the pose, only now she looks like an ugly boy and without the dorky pose.

Oh and Kawakaze, forgot that steaming pile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257512

[Anonymous No.]

2017 will finally be their year!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257490
Lack of hat was literally the only flaw. But she's still fairly good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257506
>literally just adding -shit to the name

Come up with better insults please. Sounds like you're talking about Gasa instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257518
Don't you feel satisfied looking at Kinu's damaged bewbs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257524
Their year as Sara's escorts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257524
Oh right, there was another Liverpool fan here.

No it won't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257526
That one is Kusogasa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257521
This is a little extreme.

[Anonymous No.]

>hating the vampire slayer

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257521

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257534
B-but I'm American.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a set-up for clearing Submarine Fleet 6-1 quest?

I can't even reach the boss node with my fleet of 6 subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257525
I miss the hat but i do find hatless to be super cute too

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257552
SS(V)/SS(V)/armoured CV/CLT/Abukuma/SS(V)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257521
Then after that, did he confessed that he's basically fucked by scrapping ABKM ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257542
I don't like the way the lips are done. Good thing I can't see this in-game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255951
Souryuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257542
Yeah it went from Ichisos best sprite to his worst sprite, good thing the old seasonal replaced her Kai Ni again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257542
>Musashi-tier costume design

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257561
He never replied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257524
>new DD 2018 remodels announced
>Wakaba K2
>Yamakaze K2
>Suzukaze K2, done by Ichiso
>Fubuki K3

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257567
Must have deleted all his girls and quit the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257542
>muh Nightmare of Solomons part 2
Its like a shitty sequel to decent first horror movie, Kuso Ichiso is such a fucking failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257566
She is obviously a chuuni ninja.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257569
Not according to his contributions page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257568
>Fubuki K3
Enough of your constant shilling, Tanaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257568
Would Yamakaze gain newfound confidence if she was remodeled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257568
My Wakaba is actually decently leveled so I'm okay with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257569
Well its not a big deal, just train a new one and kai ni her.

Hope he learn his lesson and stop being a 100 slotter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257578
Fubuki kai 3 will come with
>51cm fit gun
>opening torps
>5 slots (new)
>airplane slots
She will be the best thing we'll have, and it will only take 10 memedals.

[Anonymous No.]

Such an angel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257578
Tanaka memes aren't funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257561
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Fall_2016_Event#comm-500066

Looks like he never actually did it and still has her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257561
he edited kinu's page few days after her kaini, which added some voiceline translation with comment saying "Kinu is still the best CL nuff said"

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257595
What a coward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257589
Except the Thai kick one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257595
who failed greentexting in the latest comment under the page

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the wikia filled with retards who are bad at the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257604

Any place with retarded mods that allows stupid comments is bound to attract retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257595
What a faget.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257604
It's weird, they're on the website that should have all the info needed to not be retarded yet so many of them are retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257623
Unlike on /jp/, there's no push from others to git gud at this game, so they don't bother to.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257623
They update info on events at a horribly slow rate, so that's part of that. Outside of that though, there's no excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257604
When you get an idiot mod that spreads incorrect information things get rather stupid in a hurry. Also /jp/ is a bunch of gatekeeping assholes that drive out the scrubs and noobs pretty effectively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257636
Whiny, emo bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257568
>lsebian

[Anonymous No.]

>Sacchin, Sacchin!! This is delicious This one too hauu, Christmas is a trap I'm gonna get a bulge

Cute ___

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254158
I just fapped to this.
So ashamed of myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257653
I read that as Ise-bian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257505
but you don't have to care about morale at all with 3-2. levelling cruisers over time at 3-3 while you do your weekly is ok, but it's ridiculous to think you can do it faster than 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

What would her personality be like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257667
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257667
Robot like all current DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257667
Literally a computer. An ugly one, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257669
DDG 1000 just launched by usn irl

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257669
Pyramid-chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257665
You have more motivation. That alone makes it faster. Seriously.

On a side note, I don't think it was mentioned, but bringing Ise-class with four T32s should work for 3-2-A fatigue grinding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257669
The ugly upside down DD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257658

Belly stuffing art when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257680
>>16257667
Sad thing is this ship wouldn't be so ugly if her tower wasn't so tall. Like a modern day Fusou. I actually like the tumblehome bow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257658
girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257677
>>16257693
What the fuck do they put above the bridge?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257701
All the sensors and radars and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>leveling CA in 3-2A or 3-3
Wouldn't 5-4A be faster, even if MVP is reliant on double attack procing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257706
Does it even need to be that high?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257701
The radar array. On any other ships it'd just be on top of masts but since this is a stealth ship they covered it all with a big pyramidal box to reduce radar cross-section as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257667
I can't get over how it looks like something a high schooler drew for a 3d art class

>>16257678
right now I'm doing 12 runs every 2 hours for 10 hours. even if I got 3 nodes every time on 3-3 I would have to do 3 runs every hour for 7 hours, or every other hour for 14 hours to get more exp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257676
>Zumwalt
I thought with the name like that, it would Ruskies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257714
>>16257701
At least Zumwalt isn't the worst looking modern destroyer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257721
What's with all the white paint?
Stealth purpose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257719
The new Ruskie destroyer has a nice bow according to the mockup but the rest of the ship looks ugly to me. The rest of the world just says it's a cruiser because it has a nuclear reactor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257729
>>16257721
To be quite frank none of the new and modern Destroyers are really lookers like their past counterparts.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Jet Keiun ultimately worth the screws? I can upgrade both F4F for roughly the same amount.

[Anonymous No.]

Been using 10/30/300/10 for AP Shells, is there a more reliable recipe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257693
The stealth aspect of these ships remind me of Ironclads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257737
Scrap value x10.

[Anonymous No.]

Today's her birthday: say something nice about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257736
Maybe if you had two of them plus the Kikka. But with only one or two jets they seem to get shot down a lot. The Kikka less so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257745

She's alright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257745
I will once I congratulate Kiso first

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257745
The NTR doujin of her doing anal and still calling herself pure for marriage is so good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257745
Happy 103rd birthday.

[Anonymous No.]

Them years when the navy was just starting to get into rcs reduction and integrated topsides were awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257752
Don't think I've read that before, this gon b gud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257734
WW2 was the last time ships had style.

[Anonymous No.]

what is it called where the superstructure goes all the way to the edge and you can't walk from one end of the ship to the other on the deck? it makes all moden ships look ugly, especially the ticonderoga class. also how they only have a single gun turret just for bullying pirates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257515
Can't the replace the sprite with this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257758
What the fuck is that thing, a dildo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257777
Can't they just replace the artist entirely?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257780
Some proof-of-concept mast that reduces rcs and interference between antennas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257780
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Enclosed_Mast/Sensor

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257742
I actually do not know what this means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257718
And? Each 3-3 sortie takes like 5-6 minutes on average. You'd be able to do 6 runs * 2.75 nodes = 16.5 battles/hour on average, even if you take into account the time spent to wait for morale to regen. Absolute worst case scenario is 4 runs * 2 nodes = 8 battles/hour, which is still faster than your six 3-2-A runs/hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257737
10/30/90/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257794
Everything has to be stealthy nowadays.

It's gonna be hilarious when all those "stealth ships" get sunk by submarines in WWIII because nobody bothered to worry about their acoustic signature.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257809
In Earthling

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257807
Everyone is building stealth ships for some reason. It's not like other countries can't track you with satellite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16255344
It was Shinano, newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257843
But Shinano isn't even that good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257804
it averages to 6/hour but I'm actually doing 12 in about 30 minutes and then doing other stuff for 90. there's no way you can do 4-6 sorties to 3-3 in only 30 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does Kongou look like she's dying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257864
t. someone who's never done 3-3 before

It's 4-5 minutes for the 2 node route. Otherwise it's around 6 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257868
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257868
>2014
That was a dark time for Konishi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257868
I don't see it, now if you undue her doughnuts then yeah she'd by dying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257880
empty eyes

[Anonymous No.]

I have a strange attraction to Fubuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257745
You're disgusting slut

[Anonymous No.]

Would you guys believe me if I said this is harder for me than an event map?

I'm running double support + fully sparkled fleet. All my ships are lvl 80+. And I just can't S rank this fucking boss. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257868
Looks more like she is soulless to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257896
>no sub
You got real lucky and the girls ruined it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257875
that only leaves 6 minutes for morale to recover 3-5 times. you're obviously not playing the same game as everyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257898
It would've been better with a sub, because with ASW cut-in it's basically a free kill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257896
Sparkle harder.
Upgrade equips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257903
>ASW cut-in
Wh-what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257903
>ASW cut-in

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257903
>ASW cut-in
What's that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257896
You're not doing something stupid like using seaplanes right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257896
>having trouble with guaranteed routing

[Anonymous No.]

I remember the days when you could DA subs at night and completely destroy them, how I wish those days still continued.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257900
Starting with 49 morale you can do three 3-3 sorties in succession before their morale goes to orange, so something like two separate 15 minute sessions is possible. And since you don't sortie for 90 out of 120 minutes there's no way they won't ever be 49 morale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257906
>>16257907
>>16257909
the-thing-you-do-at-the-start-of-the-battle-with-100-ASW, if you want

>>16257915
It's not guaranteed routing you rocket scientist. I get redirected east after the steel node more than half the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257896
>he doesn't know about the Ikazuchi 5-1 quest
Wait till you get to this quest, you would be puliing your hair out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257922
It's called opening ASW you retard, learn what a cut-in is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257915
>guaranteed routing
It's not.

>>16257922
Opening anti-sub attack?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256541
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257667
Edgy

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck do I unlock Kikka quest? I did all new quests except that one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258003
Do all the old quests then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258008
Fug. I sure hope it's not Akatski 5-1 quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258001
>sings diffrent parts Evanescence songs in her lines

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258003
Which dailies have you done?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257729
Woa, she looks like Fusou's granddaughter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258024
All of them except World2 => 6subs branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258094
Don't lewd the Queen, filthy peasant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16256920
>>16256875
Speaking of Yadokari, the guy plays so much Minecraft jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258094
That's an unrealistically good body for someone who just sits so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258158
Queens exist exactly to be lewded, for she should be the Lewdest of them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257418
Kasumi

[Anonymous No.]

I guess its a "no" then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258166
Everyone knows that sitting around all day gives you a pornstar physique

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258215
But why Myoko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258220
OL/secretary fetish

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258210
I want to marry an abyssal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258234
Which one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258234

Don't we all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258234
Big Sister(JAV)
Little Sister/Girlfriend (JAV)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258243
I don't. Abyssals are cold and slimy to touch and very yucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258240
Both these lovely ladies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258252
>Senkan-Suiki
She should return for next events; migraine-inducing notwithstanding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258141
And Fusous look ugly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257729
>>16258141
It's like an IJN battleship and Project 1144 battlecruiser made a baby. I think she looks good, except for the stern.

[Anonymous No.]

>Jet Fighting Bomber
Huh, so that's what it was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258301
If that looks good then pyramid looks good.

[Anonymous No.]

how do I unlock the second engine quest? I already did both of the sub expedition ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258279
>ugly
But depicted as classical beauty, or so I've heard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258316
Considering they are starting to look deformed in recent art I wonder about that.

[Anonymous No.]

best way to do あ号?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258350
5-4 ranking

[Anonymous No.]

What do you guys prefer for leveling a CV? 5-4 or 3-2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258362
3-2 always seems better to me but I always end up doing 5-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258362
3-2 if you want to go mindless non stop fatigue leveling or want to spend less resources, 5-4 if you want more exp for more ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258362
5-4, all the way to the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258362
3-2 so I can level another dragon, nagato, and kinugasa at the same time

[Anonymous No.]

Naaagaaamoooooooooon!

[Anonymous No.]

Shigure is loyal bitch. Probably the only thing good about her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258428
Incoming butthurt Shigurefags, beware.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258362
5-4A with 3 leeching DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258362
PvP.

[Anonymous No.]

I scrapped Kaga and never looking back.

[Anonymous No.]

How many of you guys watch MMDs that aren't rehashed dance videos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258362
5-4

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258517
I watch them sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258248
I want Yuugumo-nee to service my dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258305
I think Zumwalt is okay for a modern warship, she certainly looks extraordinary. But I agree that WW2 warships were much more inspiring visually than modern vessels.

I have a few photos of IJN ships that I can't find in the same resolution or higher with reverse image search (Google and Tineye), should I post them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258590
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258712
QTest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257250
But it was spread by /pol/ during stuff with moot and they are the ones who were sticking it everywhere. Use your brain, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258954
Is this one the the new foreign ships we will get in the future?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257320
Abukuma haters are so stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257342
SAZANAMI

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259020

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258399
You can do it on 5-4 as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257342
We're overdue for another literally who destroyer. Miyuki maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259058
Kai Ni in 2 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

Is sparkling for exped 5 worth it?

[Anonymous No.]

You will never go to the seaside with the Yuugumo class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259429
Worst DD class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259434
There's no worst DD class, only worst taste like yours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259429
>one piece swimsuits
YES

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259434
Are you trying to get the biggest pleb award?

[Anonymous No.]

I would rather get one free bucket than fifty bonus DMM points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259131
shikinami i think
since she the one who promote sanma matsuri

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259467
That doesn't mean shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259429
I want Yuugumo-nee to stoke my dick with her tender hands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257342
I come from the future and the next one after those is Aquila, but she will be still weaker than the Unryuus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257761
They'd look best without the black smoke spitting and all the cables going from bow to stern.

[Anonymous No.]

Is farming torpedo sluts the only way to acquire quints?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259638
You can upgrade quads, but is pretty expensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259646
Not to mention you'll need quads for the sextuple.

[Anonymous No.]

精鋭「第二航空戦隊」抜錨せよ
FUG THIS QUEST
STUPID COMPASS

[Anonymous No.]

What's a better place to farm carriers for the quest, 5-2 or 5-4? Or other?

[Anonymous No.]

http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/50216019.html

>Sara might get a K2
>New subs next year
>New Akizuki next year
>Matsu class next year
>Escort Carrier next year
>Maybe a Hellcat next year
>More foreign ships next year

Why aren't you hyped?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259865
You're late >>16254473

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259865
Hellcats were literally outright confirmed through twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259865
Next year is a very broad statement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259865
>Escort Carrier next year
I don't quite understand about this. Is she going to be strong enough to use? or just gimmick ship for certain events?

Or this is just resource-friendly kind of CV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259887
>resource-friendly kind of CV
You have Aquilla for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259887
It means they are budget light carriers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259903
You mean the Unryuus. Aquila is only slightly cheaper than them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259865
What happened to Aoba kai2?
Was it a ruse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259903
I don't like her face desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259929
Aoba is next, Sara might take months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259903
Aquila is so shit you might as well use CVLs which are cheaper and better or pay 5 more fuel and use Unryuus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259929
We don't know which CA will get a K2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259952
So why does Sara get a K2 almost instantly when she was good enough and Aquila gets nothing while being shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259965
Aquila was historically shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259965
Because Sara is a survivor while Aquila and Graf are unfinished shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259965
'MURICA POWWA OF COURSE

[Anonymous No.]

What should I be spending my screws on? I'm currently just using them to get 35.6cm prototypes and upgrading no.2 and no.3 20.3cm cannons

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260002
Keiun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260007
I don't have one yet, I haven't bothered clearing my quest backlog so I don't have B87 available yet.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't for the life of me figure out this improvement arsenal!

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking love 'Birth of the JETS" theme. It gives militaristic feel. I really hope it would be a little longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260002
Carrier-based fighters, seaplane fighters and anti-installation equipment are the top 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257430
I thought had the same fighter power multiplier?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260027
Too bad the jets are shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257554
The hat is what was holding her back, discarding it allowed Ooshio to unleash her true potential as an expedition slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260039
Go on and scrap them then. Just don't come crying to us when Tanaka rolls out the Abyssal Phantoms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260030
>anti-installation equipment are the top 3
The only ones that can be upgraded are basically the Daihatsus aren't they? I've got 4 Daihatsu and 3 type 89 but last I heard I would want to upgrade them to +10 or whatever instead of converting them, is that still the case?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259887
Slow, low capacity CVLs. They might only have three plane slots. They might get cheaper consumption and DD-tier repair times. Maybe a training bonus for leveling up planes. And built-in cut-in bonus against heavy cruisers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260052
>what are tanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260041
Sit on your ass long enough to qualify as an installation and watch her tear off your face for these words.

[Anonymous No.]

Why I keep seeing OTO max on streams? It is a yellow gun it can't be that good right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260072
No, it's an artifact from the past

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260060
Didn't realise that was so cheap to upgrade, I was looking at converting the type 89 into a tank but that needs me to farm a bunch of rocket tubes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260072
Is pretty good for anyone who can't carry seaplanes, like CLTs, ABKM etc, also useful for CV and CVLs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260051
I obviously won't, doesn't mean I won't call it as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260039
Imagine you have 8 jets. 4x torpedo jets or missile jets and 4x jets fighter.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone with KC3 having problems when taking screenshots? In my case it doesn't fix the frame properly, pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260066
lol, relax friendo, it's only a jest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260102
Did you check the correct device pixel ratio in the settings?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260081

Isn't 20.3(3) better? More firepower and all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260115
Carriers can't equip those and neither can AVs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260110
I've never had to change it before. Now, changing the setting to the nearest one overcompensates and leaves this border. I had no problems before Chrome decided to update the default page zoom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260072
Good on CLTs because 1-2 firepower doesn't really matter for them and they're easy to max so it's 4 less (2) or (3) you have to worry about.

[Anonymous No.]

who choose Sazanami as starter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260002
If you are new to upgrading I would focus on the basics. No.3 is a good choice. Don't bother too much with No. 2 though since they don't get the super sekrit yasen bonus. T53 fighter is a good choice if you have it.

Proto 35.6 is good too, like most proto guns. Other than that it depends on what big guns you have.

AP shells, searchlight, tank and quints are always good and safe choices though. Oh and ducky guns if you have them, at least a pair or two.

And if you're new to upgrading as I assume I would probably stop upgrading most stuff at +6 for now, unless it's stuff like the tank because of the scaling or maybe the searchlight because it's cheap anyway and you need some cheap upgrades to mix in with the expensive ones throughout the week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260125
Weird. But it's probably an issue with the new Chrome then. I know a recent update broke playing through frame recently so for now I'm on 53.xx. The device pixel ratio is for unusual screens normally, like the macbook retina screen

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260134
Best maid. The only maid, but still the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260146
>The only maid

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260139
Alright thanks, guess I'll focus on those for the time being

These happen to be big guns I have which aren't the standard 35.6cm 41cm 46cm cannons

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260051
Why do you keep telling people to scrap them? Anyone who scraps rare equipment would be a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260133
>>16260115

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260115
Overall I'll say yes, but OTOs are cheaper to upgrade and guess some people got some of them before getting a lot of (3).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260151
For now I would upgrade 16 inch as much as you can afford without interrupting other upgrades during the week probably, there's no rush exactly. Also at least +1 for the 51cm.

Proto 41 and 38cm kai aren't bad either but it depends on how much use you personally get out of them. You have 4 proto 35.6 so if you prefer them probably don't bother with 38cm kai at least, you only need so many FBB guns.

But your eq is pretty good, I'm surprised you just started upgrading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260134
This is pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260170
I've been playing on and off for a long time, but apart from doing enough to clear events I never did enough to amass screws for upgrading until now.

Thanks for the advice, hopefully my life will be easier next event with this

[Anonymous No.]

Who will be the anime's new MC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260184
I want to fap in front of Minazuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260139
>>16260151
>>16260170
>>16260183
>starting with guns
I seriously hope you guys don't do this

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260157
Neat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260193
Why not? And obviously don't do them exclusively.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260193
I don't have enough crap planes to upgrade my useful planes yet since I was too ignorant to horde them, and I've already upgraded most of my AP shells

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260184
Aoba ?
SoL genre this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260199
Unless you buy enough screws to do more than one upgrade per day you'd be stuck upgrading Zero 21 to max for the monthlies to turn it into a max skilled 52, a couple of seaplane fighters, and a bunch of tanks + T89s. Not to mention stuff like max Iwamoto or max Iwai as well.

Upgraded guns may be good to have, but they aren't on the level of vital equipment that these three are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260210
4-1 drops a shit ton of Souryuu. 5-4 boss drops plenty of cranes. This means Zero 21 galore. And

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260212
Upgrading a bunch of guns to +4 is pretty useful and cheap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260214
And 52s as well if you farm them*

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260212
i guess it's not worth to keep the maxed 21 as it is , and to just upgrade to 52?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260221
A bunch each of max 21 and max 52 is desired for endgame, but I suppose max 52 are slightly better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260190
And if Minazuki does it in front of you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260212
I don't consider T21/T52 vital and maxing a fighter-bomber is low prio for me.

Good point about seaplane fighters though.

But for installations both guns and tanks are vital. And upgrading guns is just generally valuable, both day to day stuff and for every single event map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260214
Guess I'll have to start farming those maps then. Most of the time 2-3 is a fucking bitch and RNG refuses to let me clear the dailies

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260211
Haha no, enjoy your additional drama in S2.

>>16260230
Some people keep their Iwai as fighter though. If it's max it's essentially a 12 AA fighter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260232
I'm assuming he has some 11 AA fighters with his eq. 11 to 12 isn't a big deal. But sure. At least personally I would upgrade my go to guns to +6 so I could equip a full fleet at least.

Upgrading from scratch for the next event can be a bit of a gamble anyway if it's a hard one. I just think what I posted is a good way to prepare in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260143
It is a Chrome issue. The only way to fix it is changing the DPI setting of Windows to 100%, but then everything becomes smaller, which I don't want either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257729
I actually really like that sort of nod to the onion domes on Orthodox churches that you get on that bridge structure. I wonder what its actual purpose is, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16257667
Think "Misaka Mikoto."

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260162

I see. Then I don't see a reason for me to upgrade OTO ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259887

Escort carriers had 2 main tasks:

- Convoy protection -> ASW => Transport combined fleet
- Close Air Support for invading forces -> Bonus against instalations

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260267
Probably not. Don't come the next event crying because you don't have a maxed 2 OTO 2 tanks French goddess of installation removal tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260269
So, an Army dog that can equip torpedo bombers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260267
Not everyone can use 20.3(3).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260280
Yeah. Well that's how the RN and USN operated them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260211
Hey, Aoba MC could work pretty well, with that whole reporter gimmick she has going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260278
>using a shitty testicle instead of trusting good old Yodo

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260266
So pretty strong, but also very tsundere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260305
>biri biri
>strong when shit like Magic Gods were walking around

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260303
Teste can equip tanks and speak 2 languages. Yodo is just a mute megane nerd with 4 slots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260312
>MESSI

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260310
Quake have teach me that magic gods don't worth a shit when you have a railgun.

[Anonymous No.]

How would you react if this was Samidare's kai ni?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260312
>speak 2 languages
She can't speak either language, at least the other foreign ships have impeccable Japanese but her is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260312
>and speak 2 languages
Yeah badly. Yodo doesn't need that shit and is lovable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260320
A Railfun? You mean that shit that High Priest brushed off while chasing Touman?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260230
>I don't consider T21/T52 vital
With the current meta leaning heavily towards planes, max skilled 52 is at least as important as upgraded guns (in fact I'd say it's more important), and it also has the "you only get up to one a month" part. On the other hand you can upgrade guns anytime.

>But for installations both guns and tanks are vital.
Lolno. I don't need to say anything about setups like WG42/T89/tank or T89/T89/tank. And even if it's 2 gun + tank, if you do the calculations two max Akizuki or Poi guns + unupgraded tank/daihatsu give an 11.933% increase in damage for Satsuki Kai 2 (and a lower % for ships with higher firepower, like Kasumi or Ooshio). A +4 tank or +6 daihatsu (vanilla or T89) with 2 unupgraded guns would already give more. Even if you say upgrade gun to +1, you get more damage against installations from upgrading a tank from +9 to max than you get from upgrading one gun from 0 to +1. And the same applies to daihatsu if the DD in question isn't Mutsuki-class.

>And upgrading guns is just generally valuable, both day to day stuff and for every single event map.
Good to have, sure. But valuable? I beg to differ.

But I guess we'll continuously be at odds over this until someone can objectively prove that one is better than the other.

>>16260246
>I'm assuming he has some 11 AA fighters with his eq.
From his response I highly doubt it. And the default expectation is that someone has enough stock Reppuu for the event anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Will next year be the year of Carrier Task Force?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260324
Submarine/DIO hybrid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260340
Also in case I forgot, for Ooshio kai 2 the effect for upgrading both Akizuki/Poi guns to +1 increases as much damage to installations as upgrading tank from +9 to max.

>>16260355
That was this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260359

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260340
I prefer 2 guns+tank for DDs just because it proved way more reliable during that one installation event than the daihatsu attack. The daihatsu attack seemed questionable at best. Maybe I just had bad rolls and/or was unlucky but I saw others say the same thing in these threads at the time.

All in all I think both your path and mine are both viable and you have a point with a lot of the things you say. Either way it can't hurt trying to horde a few extra screws before the event (as long as you still upgrade every day of course) and decide when you see the maps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260360

>Winter was STF for the last map
>Spring doesn't count thanks to all the fuck ups
>Summer could use Surface task force
>Only winter had a clear bias for Carrier Task force

No

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260355
It still is

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260374
Who the fuck used suijou for summer

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260374

>Only autumm*

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Kashima such a mean bully?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260376
I did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260372
I generally consider full anti-installation setup better if half or more of the enemies including the flagship are installations. Otherwise double attack is better, like for spring E7.

>Either way it can't hurt trying to horde a few extra screws before the event (as long as you still upgrade every day of course) and decide when you see the maps.
True. Even so, I'd rather upgrade fighters/tanks as prep and leave some screws aside in case I need to upgrade guns, than the other way round.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260340
>With the current meta leaning heavily towards planes, max skilled 52 is at least as important as upgraded guns (in fact I'd say it's more important), and it also has the "you only get up to one a month" part. On the other hand you can upgrade guns anytime.
What's so useful in a max skilled 52? The AA difference with a max skilled 21 ins't going to make a significant difference, especially if you already have 10+ planes to put in your bigger slots, and the 21 has better auxiliary stats and longer range, which is vital for LBAS escort.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260374
Rei-go STF had you go the long way around instead of 2 nodes. Spring was Pearl Harbor, anything but CTF was literally retarded. Summer could go both ways and the last event was heavily carrier based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260278

Nah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260409
>Rei-go STF had you go the long way around instead of 2 nodes.

No

>Spring was Pearl Harbor, anything but CTF was literally retarded.

You mean that heavily bugged event that devs didn't even know what they were doing?

>last event was heavily carrier based.

The only one this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260416
>You mean that heavily bugged event that devs didn't even know what they were doing?
How is that relevant to the discussion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260416
The only bug was the Yuu/Shioi drop rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260408
I guess whether to focus on max skilled 21 first or max skilled 52 first is up to the individual. It's probably like arguing whether bishops or knights are more powerful to a chess player.

But whichever is the case you should find at least one of them useful enough to make upgrading fighters one of the top priorities early on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260409
>Rei-go STF had you go the long way around instead of 2 nodes.

No, Kidou got the long route. Suijou had double BB Hime, aerial node, double Ru Kai. Kidou had sub node, CV Hime with super Wos, aerial node, double Ru Kai and on top of that an extra fuck you node at the start unless you gimped your fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

Akashi's idle line sounds like she's frustrated that you're not giving her the D even though you have all the time in the world for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260422

Devs didn't even know how the event was to be cleared thanks to all the bugs and in the end eveything was a giant mess who had to be hastily patched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260423
>16 hours mantainance
>bombers not working properly
>bomber damage not counting for internal health calc in enemies resulting in then attacking and targetable while sunk.
>air raids not happening
>Zuiun shenanigans causing catbombs.
>LB causing catbombs
>emergency mantainance
>Yuu fuck up
>Extremely low drop rates for the new ships
>Bombers still not working properly
>Zuiun shenanigans being the only viable strategy for E-6.
>Ships getting increased stats over their max upgradable stats with levels.
>Pola can't equip her own plane
>Another emergency mantainance.
>Devs finally give the debuff for E-6 conditions that were too cryptic for anyone to understand.
>E-7 keeps being a roulette.
>Iowa has fit penalty with her own guns.
>Event extended from 3 weeks to a whole month.

Did I miss anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260423
Did you already forget land bases only doing scratch damage at the start and other shit like sunk enemies being attacked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260442
>>16260451
Half of those bugs are irrelevant and the other half doesn't take away from the fact the intended gameplay was CTF.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260456
>the intended gameplay was CTF

Are you Tanaka? Is the Catapult for Kaga or for Saratoga? Enterprise when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260456
Suijou and Kidou both worked fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260459
>Pearl Harbor
>Not Kidou

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260471

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260451
It was never Zuiun that did big damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260451
How many times did the event get extended? 4 times?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260480
At least you have proved you are a dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260471

>Midway
>Last map were 2 CVLs as Reppu and Saiun mules while hotels and CLTs did the heavy lifting.
>Carrier event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260433
Why the fuck are skilled 21s and 32s almost straight out better than 52s? One has better range and accuracy, the other - high evasion, while the 52 has fucking 1 extra AA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260503
I could have put more Saiun into those CVLs so that my BBs can use AP shells instead of shitty radars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260517
balans))))
)))))))))))))))))))

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260529
I guess internet MMOs/games like to implement WG levels of "working as intended, the problems are on your end" bullshit. Ok then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260517
52 is slightly heavier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260517

All of those are Type 0, with different flavors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260517
I hope they had added 22 instead of 32 for range.

[Anonymous No.]

hiya everyone, so i want to start this game, in fact, i started it alrdy, but is there ny way to change it to english? or at least the main features?

[Anonymous No.]

Just got the jet. Kaga can't equip it.

What the fuck is this shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260584
No, if you want translations use a viewer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260586
Are you a retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260587
for exmple?
sorry for asking for spoonfeeding, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260593
Read the fucking OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260593
Use KC3. It's a chrome extension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260593
Use EO unless you are a lazy fuck like me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260591
He uses Kaga. Of course he's a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260586
You need to try again. She's just shy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260591

Fuck you. Those extra catapult is for Kaga, mark my words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260603
She's going to continue to be a Reppuu mule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260586
Did you have to do the land base quests?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260593
KC3 is the closest thing to english translation you can get. Makes everything easy to track and understand too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260616

I did it once it came out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260624
>using bloated shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260624
Ooyodo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260631
I like my shit bloated, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260641
Adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260624
thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260641
This artist is very alright. I feel ashamed I didn't know of him.

[Anonymous No.]

What grueling 100 hours of expedition. Fuck you, Tanaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260677
Don't worry, Hoshou-san, no bot can replace you in my heart.

[Anonymous No.]

What will Jet fighter do? Just having stronger AA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260688
Don't go and waste that precious engine on the shit jets now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260631
It's not bloated if you make use of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260695
Very high AA but I'm assuming it's going to be balanced somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260696
We'll get more of them later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260703
Not surprising, the bombers are of balans already ))))))))

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260709
Why the fuck do you type )))) this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260704
But they might let you turn more into the new jets if you save these.

[Anonymous No.]

How many shipgirls am I allowed to have?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260718
310

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260718
100

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260718
100 for poorfags, every extra 10 slots cost yenmoney.

Read the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

I love these details.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260718
How long do you think you will play can this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260732
Sara's body is amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

High res sprites when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260732
That is neat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260744
Too costly, so never.

[Anonymous No.]

Uranami's ~5% droprate is bs, I really want an animation skip button when farmin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260749
But they already exist, you can see them partially in the remodel screen, they're just not releasing them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260753
>I really want an animation skip button when farmin
Do you want to set their servers on fire?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260744
I wish, I want to see Shiratsuyu lips, Iowa's belt buckle, Zara's engraving on the turret, bigger fairies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260732
Designed with making a 3d model for arcade in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260764
When I get my 3456th Haruna, ...yes!

[Anonymous No.]

What is the earliest you have seen an equipment upgrade fail? I just had it fail at +5 for the first time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260732

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260781
+5 to +6 is the earliest it can fail

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260781
It's possible to fail at +5 to +6 for Akashi Kai. Before Kai it can also fail at +4 to +5.

[Anonymous No.]

Are Jets more resilient from getting de-ranked? I'm thinking to use Kikka on 6-5 next month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260781
Never tried to do without the slider with a default Akashi as I leveled her up as quickly as possible. +6 in the past.

>>16260783
That rigging is so good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260783
This gives me a boner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259929
If anything, it means she'll get Kai Ni this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16259903
Aquila isn't resource friendly. She's weaker and more expensive than CVLs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260769
Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260732
>>16260783
>people still think Yoshinori is a bad artist

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260838
Why else would you make such a detailed concept art? Especially with those side projections of the flight deck. It's obviously a blueprint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260340
>all this short-sighted idiocy trying to pretend it was written by an expert
I'm almost puking


>max skilled 52 is at least as important as upgraded guns
Lol no. I'm only upgrading one because I have basically everything else at max, +9, +6 or +4.

Upgraded guns are way more important, you use them all the time and the effects are clear. Better accuracy and higher damage. Upgraded fighter doesn't make a difference, at best it means that in a very specific scenario you will be able to take one bomber more or move the bomber to bigger slot. What's more, there's no point in upgrading fighters unless you max them and that's very expensive. Meanwhile with guns even +1 and +4 make a big difference.

>I don't need to say anything about setups like WG42/T89/tank or T89/T89/tank.
They're inaccurate shit. Two guns + tank is the best setup. You should work on your brain capacity and notice that "maximum damage of a single attack" isn't the only variable in this game.

>it's impossible to upgrade tank and guns, you have to choose one
Nope.
>you start every single battle with yasen at boss node and your ships only ever shoot at the boss
Even more of a nope. Upgraded guns help you in killing everything. Tank only helps vs the installations. Both are vital for maps with installations. Focusing only on quoted scenario is plain stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260839
He just has a problem with open mouths from an angle sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, ducky guns obviously, but what next? 20.3/(3) and what else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260374
>>16260409
Spring was medium difficulty at best with Suijou, kamo~. Kidou was similar.

Kidou had absolutely retarded route in Rei-gou while Suijou had comfy cruising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260892
BB guns and AP Shells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260783
This is why I like the mechanical designs of KC over everyone else that tries. They just slap on the guns on a platform with no detail and call it a day, but then I see Yoshinori or Fujikawa do it and muh dick cannot get enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260892
Burger guns if you got Iowa during spring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260781
I honestly have never seen an upgrade fail bellow +6. I'm baffled to hear people report failures from +4 to +5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260860
Well a detailed design would give modelers an easier time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260799
No, they get shot down more by AA because of the extra air phase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260769
>>16260860
Hope you don't mind waiting three years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260942
It's like a 5 percent chance. This means the upgrade will never fail for some people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260892
35.6 is kind of old and busted, but they're alright to work on until you get 35.6 Triples, and even then they're upgradeable to Triples themselves.

It all depends on what you have right now, actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260914
Got the AP shells down, but I don't know where to start with BB guns. 35.6, 41, 46.

>>16260938
Have them and will slowly get them up as doing as many weeklies and monthlies reward you with around 30 - 40 screws and none of them are that difficult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260942
I've failed a 4 to 5 upgrade once, good thing it was a searchlight though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260788
Kai ni that only fails starting at +7 to +8 when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260959
I got the two from the quests so I will definitely make sure to improve those, thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260962
Honestly, marriage should have done that just like how marrying Katori and Kashima gives more exp for PvP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258712
>>16258305
Whats with all the hate on Zumwalt?

Didn't WWII and the fact that Battleships got their teeth kicked in by carriers probe that practicality will always trump the rule-of-cool?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260962
>>16260967
Would be cool is she had a +1% chance per 10 levels or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260970
It's not KanColle related for one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260970
The problem is that many folks are questioning whether the Zumwalt class is that practical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260960
16inch are the best for everyone.
Proto35.6 for Kongous.
38cm Kai for fBBs or 381mm Kai if you like using Pastas.
Proto41 for Fusous.
Proto51 for Big7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260987
This will come in handy in the future, much obliged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260979
It's okay but what the USN really need right now is new multipurpose destroyer. This is what happens when you listen to the Muhreens who want fire support for whatever reason now a days.
That said building more outdated Arleigh Burkes(which are ugly, In fact many 80s and 90s destroyer designs are probably the ugliest. The new Ruskie, Zumwalt and British destroyers look better by comparison) is not a solution and ended up costing as much as the Zumwalt program(Stupid congressman).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260987
How come 16inch gun is so gud? Was it secretly folded over one million times?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260987

>38cm Kai for fBBs
>Wehraboos

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261010
It has a good fire control system built into it I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261010
4 base accuracy, 7 at max. It's pretty good. It also just so happens that it mostly nullifies the overweight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261010

Big firepower and big accuracy too to override any unfit penalty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260874
I could say the same for you. You speak as if upgrading guns will double the damage dealt to enemies or something. It's literally +1 or +2 damage per shot with a +1% chance of hitting.

inb4 every damage/accuracy point counts in case it's the difference between chuuha and shouha or something (which is also just focusing on a specific scenario)

>Upgraded guns are way more important, you use them all the time and the effects are clear. Better accuracy and higher damage.
>Meanwhile with guns even +1 and +4 make a big difference.
Lol no. For example you can barely tell the difference between a normal 12.7cm and a Libeccio gun (which is effectively a normal 12.7cm upgraded to +1).

>Upgraded fighter doesn't make a difference, at best it means that in a very specific scenario you will be able to take one bomber more or move the bomber to bigger slot.
Wow, it's like it's the carrier equivalent of upgraded guns.

>What's more, there's no point in upgrading fighters unless you max them and that's very expensive.
Because they actually do something.

>They're inaccurate shit.
I don't know what you have been doing to have your shots constantly miss against installations whose evasion stats are so laughably low your shots should hit anyway. I have no problem with hitting them even without guns equipped. No married Ooshio/Kasumi either.

>Nope.
You can. You'll just be delaying those seaplane fighters. Though I guess if you already have 3 of them you're good to go.

>Upgraded guns help you in killing everything.
Barely. At least the effects of upgraded tanks are actually noticeable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261013
Will they actually give out some Kai 38.1s? No way are these worth upgrading from scratch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261033

Try ranking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260987
So there are weight penalties for putting a 41cm/18inch on the Bongous.

Some people put Proto35.6cm/Proto41cm so that the accuracy & weight penalty cancel each other out.

But does the dazzle35.6cm have a different weight penalty compared to the vanilla 35.6cm or the Proto35.6cm? Also, will 2x 35.6cm mean 2x accuracy? I know that in support expeditions accuracy is the #1 priority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261040
>I know that in support expeditions accuracy is the #1 priority
The you should know too that fit bonuses/penalties don't apply to support expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261040
Fit gun mechanic doesn't factor into support expeditions. Neither do upgrades. As far as the data has shown. Usually what I do is look for a gun that offers me a solid mix of firepower and accuracy, although I have 2 radars on the BB anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261010
They will be king (queen?) of BB meta when radar artillery spotting happens while every other gun needs assistance or a completely new gun, kind of like ducky guns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261041
>>16261045
>The you should know too that fit bonuses/penalties don't apply to support expeditions.
Really? Man, this game is so inconsistent. Does that mean you should be equipping 46cm guns on all your battleships for support expeditions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261048
4x 16in :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260990

Other than BBs, quints are useful for your TCI ships, and they're kind of like the 20.3 (3)s in the sense that they can only be upgraded during a few days each week.

Oh, and the 90mm HA is good for Maya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261048
16inch is the best for support, this is why you should upgrade other guns because it is too good to not use it and support expedition really needs the accuracy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261048
>Does that mean you should be equipping 46cm guns on all your battleships for support expeditions?
Fit bonuses, Anon. Item bonuses still apply, so always throw a 16in, 38kai or whatever you got.

Also, never expect logic or consistency from this backward browser game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261059
I use my bisko guns for support instead since I never had a chance to upgrade them before 16inches came out

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261048
You could, but I prefer guns that have a marginal accuracy bonus over the amount of firepower bonus you get from 46cms. 16 inch triples really are the best all-around guns in that sense, since they give a solid firepower boost along with an accuracy boost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261061
What this anon said. I should have made it clearer in my previous posts, sorry. The bonuses/penalties from stars and fit/overweight do not apply, but the basic bonuses the gun offers in its base stats still applies. Which is why the 16 inch is excellent for support, if you have enough to go around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261013
Muh accuracy

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261059
16-inch+GFCS would be even better though :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>good stats
>sexy as hell
>upgradeable
>perfect for support expeditions
>perfect for every single battleship
Is there anything this gun can't do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261093

Be equiped in cruisers

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261093
You forgot cute fairies

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261093
But does it know why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261104
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Who else thinks that Sara K2 will have no planes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261093
Yes.
But it will never tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261093
I was expecting some special RADAR-CI and/or special AACI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260041
best exped slave

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261124
If they do a Bep with Sara people will be so chuffed.
I hope they do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261124
She will come with whatever refit/version they decide to base the kai 2 off, which is highly likely going to be the one where the USN put the catapult back on again. Cranes didn't come with anything because they couldn't figure out how to not give you duplicate equipment when changing forms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261126
>USN
>Using Main battle guns for AA

It's nice to see that Japanese players in general like all 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261126
That description was so misleading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261131
>please don't give me free equipment
Who would be pleased by that? Retards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260007
Have they tested what changes for the recon Keiun when improved?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261161
USN haters, obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261158
It's still not even implemented. The flavor text is worded in future tense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261163
Just view range.
Might increase the fighter power multiplier if that isn't capped at x1.3

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261146
Probably this, it makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261161
Yeah, probably the same retards who sank/scraped Sara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261161
Hatsuharupleb, i.e. yes.

[Anonymous No.]

I've got the Kikka.
Now what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261190
Chev it at some sub node to save on steel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261190
Now make Jet Keiun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261190
Wait until it gets governed by a new formula instead of using the dive bomber one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261231
Kek.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the Kikka better used in the second slot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261250
Yes and no. 1st slot gives you more AA for your buck and less prone to getting wiped out but no contact bonus, 2nd slot allows a torpedo bomber to be 1st but gives less AA and it can be shot down on heavy AA maps like 5-5, 6-5 and Wolocaust gauntlet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261093
>>perfect for every single battleship
Where did you get this nonsense from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261287
well it's in general good(not best) on everyship that can equip, like OTO but better it has a broader use so you can priorities it without feel cucked for screws

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261311
Even taking into account their accuracy stats they reduce accuracy for every fast BB that isn't Iowa to a point lower than having nothing equipped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261026
>>inb4 every damage/accuracy point counts in case it's the difference between chuuha and shouha or something (which is also just focusing on a specific scenario)
The difference is, this scenario can happen in every single battle. Your specific scenario has a small chance of occurring at all maybe twice in whole event.
Upgraded guns improve the overall performance of your fleet regardless of the situation. Upgraded fighter either does something (rarely) or changes absolutely nothing (most of the time).

By the way the two percent points accuracy increase is actually ~3% higher chance of hitting and in Suijou your shots will hit 7% more often than without the upgrade.

>Lol no. For example you can barely tell the difference between a normal 12.7cm and a Libeccio gun (which is effectively a normal 12.7cm upgraded to +1).
For example +1 Zero 21 is worse than Zero 52. Hell, even at +4 it's still worse.
What a nice argument you have there. 1 screw for a gun does more than 4 screws for a fighter! That sure makes fighters better!
The "lol no" part was more constructive than what you wrote afterwards. Let it sink. You aren't capable of providing counterarguments.
Or let's look at your retort (?) the other way. With one screw you can make something, that drops all the time everywhere, equal to a good gun and actually better than the B Kai Ni variant. With four upgrades the super common 12.7cm is already stronger than all possible unupgraded DD guns. It lack placebo stats but its firepower and accuracy are actually higher than untouched Akizuki gun. That is something worth thinking about.
In case of fighters, 4 upgrades aren't changing anything, you still have something inferior to untouched alternative with slightly stronger base.

If you wanted your example to be worth anything, you should have consider a gun that is actually recommended to be upgraded - Akizuki gun. At +1 it exceeds all the DD guns in every single field except ASW. It literally has better firepower, accuracy and aa than guns without the upgrade.
With fighters M52(S) is >weaker< than the normal Reppuu until +5. Reppuu is easily craftable by anyone and you can get multiple copies.
If you want to say something about placebo stats, M21(S) has better. And if you only want the fighter to be Reppuu with placebo stats than the difference it makes is really small and not worth the effort. Really, the point of upgrading fighters isn't "after 40 screws I'll have Reppuu with +2 evasion!". Their point is having something otherwise unobtainable. Something better. Therefore you should aim at max upgrade. The fighters require heavy screw investment and many days of early upgrades to give you any real benefit. The guns however give you benefits with every single screw and especially with the first ones.

Telling people to prioritize upgrading fighters other than Iwamoto and the Reppuu (601) chain can only be considered malicious trolling.


>Wow, it's like it's the carrier equivalent of upgraded guns.
In what way?

>to have your shots constantly miss against installations
I didn't say that. I said the accuracy is shit [compared to the DA setup].

>whose evasion stats are so laughably low your shots should hit anyway
Play the game. The shots can miss. I saw that multiple times in Spring. DA has two shots and each of them is more accurate than single attack. The chance of crit happening is obviously higher too. And as I proved earlier, such setup already has enough power.

>Barely.
But those effects are there all the time. The guns do help you in killing everything. It's a fact. Tanks only work vs installations*. If you balance gun and tank upgrades, you will reach the boss more consistently and kill more enemies before yasen. Max tank is useless if it rarely has the chance to attack the boss.
*They do increase firepower but it's inefficient in comparison and doesn't include acc and aa increase.


tl;dr There's no point in min/maxing situational eq if you haven't even touched the basics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261190
>>16261250

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
why

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
So this...is the power...of jets...whoa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
Sasuga Tsu-san.

[Anonymous No.]

Forgot to ask last time I thought of that, is fighter-only carrier route/boss support a thing? Bombers in shelling support save your bauxite and do their job, but with ever-increasing AS numbers and maps like E4 last event this might be an option, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
>gif

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't dive bombers attack installations, but torpedo bombers can? Shouldn't it be the other way around, since the things are on land?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261424
Because torpedo bombers can carry heavier bombs. When torp bombers are attacking installations they're not actually dropping torpedoes, but heavy bombs that dive bombers can't carry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261403
It is flying alone, that just makes the AA fire focus on 1 target. I'm not actually sure if that is intended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
Why

[Anonymous No.]

I'm glad they implemented jets now and not at the event, this gives them time to make any changes they want before they're actually needed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261416
You do know support shows up after you already got AS right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
This makes me sad.

[Anonymous No.]

Sara Kai 2 is just the beginning. By Spring 2018 the only Yoshinori ship without Kai 2s will be the shitty hotel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261473
>2016 was mostly Konishi
>2017 will be mostly Yoshinori
Fine by me. Then 2018 will be mostly Fujikawa and then 2019 will be mostly Parsley and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260990
You're welcome.

>>16261010
It's ridiculous from game balance point of view but they really deserve it because 16inch were great historically. If the game was accurate, their advantage would be even bigger.

Higher firepower than guns of same weight. Exceedingly higher firepower than lighter guns.
Better base accuracy than all guns. Only fit guns with base bonus accuracy have an edge on 16inch but fall short of it when it comes to power.
+1 armor unique to this gun. It does matter for BBs who actually can tank cap-tier hits. Might be the difference between chuuha and taiha or shouha and chuuha. Very valuable difference.

>>16261013
The upgraded 38.1cm isn't viably available. And as other anon said, their accuracy is still lower than 38cm Kai. In CF your BBs reach the cap with anything, accuracy is much more valuable than firepower there.

>>16261040
Yes, the bonus/penalty is counted separately for each gun. Keep in mind accuracy in single fleet is high and that accuracy cap exists so you can use stronger guns to be safe in case of hankousen or chuuha.

Accuracy is priority in support expedition and that's why you leave the accuracy to T32 radars. As other anons said, only raw stats matter in support.


>>16261058
True. However I think 90mm isn't worth the effort if one has Bofors (not sure what's the difference between the two in availability to somewhat new players as I got them when they came out). I'd say a better choice for "free" upgrades are Quads for Orel.
In the past I would also mention 12.7cm for new players but Akizuki and Hatsuzuki were very easy to get in last event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261501

>In CF your BBs reach the cap with anything

>I dunno how to read.

[Anonymous No.]

Hello friends I'm doing the catapult questline deuce and it requires Zui Zui Kai; I'm just wondering can I kai 2 her and i'll still meet the requirements? No where has clarification.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261509
K2 works too

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261508
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261511
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261513

Take a moment to read the thread before you embarrass yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261466
Why is Wojak sad when he's surrounded by lolis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261531
Post something concrete. From what I see the discussion started with anon asking about what to upgrade. I provided an argument why Nazi gun is a better choice than Brit gun. What's your problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261533
Even cuties can't alleviate fatigue and crushing disappointment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261509
The limit only works in one way. Higher form is always okay, unless the ship changes class. So far it only poses a problem with Taigei and ChiChis. Might apply to Fusous and Ises. With Cranes it only changes anything for 2-2 branching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
>>16261441
It should have been made immune to AACI. Now it's fucking useless for any map other than 5-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261555
Kiso too iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261573
True, forgot about her. A lot of quests want a CL so it does make a big difference, thank you. That would include pre-Kai KitaOoi as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261572
Make it immune during jet assault but not regular opening airstrike. This just gives Tsu a field day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261587
I meant there's a quest that calls for specifically for base Kiso, kai 2 doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261590
Yeah, especially since abyssal AACI is different from our AACI. It doesn't shoot down same amount of planes from all slots, it's kinda random and you can spread its effect by bringing more bombers. The jets however simply get focused down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261593
Ooh. Now that you mention it, there was something like that. You have good memory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
Some nips think the guy was trolling and put it in the 4th slot so it gets shot down easily .

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261572
>It should have been made immune to AACI.

FYI, the USN's 5"/38 gun had an AA ceiling of 37,200 feet. The Type 98 gun used by the ducks could shoot as high as 36,000 feet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261627
Tsu-elite in that formation has 22% proportional shootdown, 10 flat shootdown. This means that the slot couldn't have been 34 or 21, because these values are not enough to empty those slots. On the other hand, Tsu can instantly empty the 9-slot with flat shootdown, and she can empty the 12-slot with both proportional and flat.

The chance of her emptying the 9-slot is: (1/6)*0.5 = ~8.33%
The chance of her emptying the 12-slot is: (1/6)*0.25 = ~4.16%

In essence, you're seeing bad luck at play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261593
No, that was bullshit. I used K2 Kiso for that one just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261659
Where did you get this data?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261672
Read up on AA mechanics, specifically how abyssal AA works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261680
Wiki has this? I wouldn't trust people who think tanks don't work on Central Hime and rocket launchers give bonus accuracy vs PT Imps.

[Anonymous No.]

How the hell do i finish that Ayanami/Shikinami/Isonami/Uranami quest to 2-5? They won't reach the required LoS, even the usual 1CL, 1CA, 4DD won't reach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261702
Post your comp and LoS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261702
You use equipment to get enough LoS

>1CL, 1CA

Why are you doing that when you can use Tones or CVLs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261698
The information is also on wikiwiki: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B9%D2%B6%F5%C0%EF

Wikia has surprisingly up-to-date information about some things, you just need to find it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261716
Yeah, I know they can have very good info, but wasn't sure if it applied to AA page. Thank you a lot!

Does that mean Tsu-class doesn't have AACI?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261729

>Does that mean Tsu-class doesn't have AACI?

>Complains about wikia being shit
>Doesn't know about one of the oldests known facts about the game and what makes Tsu being so hated.

I'd revaluate my contempt toward wikia if I were you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261750
Wikia deleted any mention of Tsu being able to do AACI a while ago because someone bitched hard enough, calling it just "really high AA".
>No evidence for AACI from them

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261767

Doesn't change the fact that you didn't know about it till just now. You might very well be that guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261750
You didn't answer my question.

We always talk about Tsu AACI here and we've been doing that for ages but your post about possible shot down data and the wikia page which you recommended don't mention it even once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261776

You are replying to the wrong anon though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261782
Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261593
>>16261612
I'm not sure if there was actually any issue with that quest, but if there was it already got fixed long ago. Like >>16261661, I used K2 Kiso just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261702
2 CVL you nignog

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261796

Are you slow anon? You sure seem to be.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>The difference is, this scenario can happen in every single battle. Your specific scenario has a small chance of occurring at all maybe twice in whole event.
>Upgraded guns improve the overall performance of your fleet regardless of the situation.
When I said barely, I really meant barely. You'd hardly notice the difference. 3-5 south with 1 CL 5 DD hasn't become any easier ever since I swapped out all my stock 10cms for max Akizuki guns. I've been using the same elite DDs all this while. Nothing about my setup has changed other than the guns. (And the increased levels of said DDs, but that's also supposed to be making things easier.)

>By the way the two percent points accuracy increase is actually ~3% higher chance of hitting and in Suijou your shots will hit 7% more often than without the upgrade.
Assuming 2/3 hit rate for the first example and 24/35 (-40%) hit rate for the second example, I see (base 2/3 hit rate would be +7.5% for +2 accuracy for suijou). If accuracy really mattered that much for combined fleet people would be sparkling their combined fleets more often since sparkled ships have x1.2 accuracy term. Yet most people neglect sparkling their combined fleets since "it does nothing". I find it hard to believe that this 7% extra hit rate would translate to anything concrete.

>Upgraded fighter either does something (rarely) or changes absolutely nothing (most of the time).
>For example +1 Zero 21 is worse than Zero 52. Hell, even at +4 it's still worse.
What a nice argument you have there. 1 screw for a gun does more than 4 screws for a fighter! That sure makes fighters better!
>With fighters M52(S) is >weaker< than the normal Reppuu until +5. Reppuu is easily craftable by anyone and you can get multiple copies.
>If you want to say something about placebo stats, M21(S) has better. And if you only want the fighter to be Reppuu with placebo stats than the difference it makes is really small and not worth the effort. Really, the point of upgrading fighters isn't "after 40 screws I'll have Reppuu with +2 evasion!". Their point is having something otherwise unobtainable. Something better. Therefore you should aim at max upgrade. The fighters require heavy screw investment and many days of early upgrades to give you any real benefit. The guns however give you benefits with every single screw and especially with the first ones.
No one uses Zero M21s or M52s because of "placebo stats". There's something called "flight range", for a start.

Also while I am well aware that Zero fighters need more than +5 to make it really worth your while, the main reason why people max it is because it's far more cost effective to max it before you skill it than after, not because it's worthless unless maxed. Using the 10 upgrades for a Zero M21 to make it into a skilled Zero M21/M52 to make ten guns +1 instead doesn't even do much, if at all.

>Or let's look at your retort (?) the other way. With one screw you can make something, that drops all the time everywhere, equal to a good gun and actually better than the B Kai Ni variant. With four upgrades the super common 12.7cm is already stronger than all possible unupgraded DD guns. It lack placebo stats but its firepower and accuracy are actually higher than untouched Akizuki gun. That is something worth thinking about.
>In case of fighters, 4 upgrades aren't changing anything, you still have something inferior to untouched alternative with slightly stronger base.
I was trying to avoid using upgraded guns as examples, but if you insist. There's still barely any difference between the +4 12.7cm and the Libeccio gun. It's the same difference as the +0 12.7cm and the Libeccio gun.

>If you wanted your example to be worth anything, you should have consider a gun that is actually recommended to be upgraded - Akizuki gun. At +1 it exceeds all the DD guns in every single field except ASW. It literally has better firepower, accuracy and aa than guns without the upgrade.
Sure. With or without upgrades it's the best gun. There's nothing to compare it to other than an upgraded version of itself. There's also barely any difference between a +0 and +1 version of itself.

>Play the game.
But I do. Fact is they miss nowhere as often as you claim they do.

>But those effects are there all the time. The guns do help you in killing everything. It's a fact.
It's also a fact that they barely help anywhere from the first node to the boss. I'd rather take my chances on the tank (that is, if my guns weren't already maxed long before tanks existed).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261836
>new ip


why though

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261836
Meant for >>16261360

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261841
Shitty internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261823
Answer my question anon. Does abyssal AACI exist or is it merely fixed and proportional AA? The post and wiki say Abyssal AACI doesn't exist. Experience says it does exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261832
Why are Gumofags the most patrician players?

[Anonymous No.]

Almost forgot
>>16261360
>In what way?
Well, they allow your carrier to deal extra damage since your bombers can go into bigger slots or you can bring an extra bomber or something. Should be obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261877
Not him, but I think the results shouldn't be like this if there were abyssal AACI. It should be more devastating. Do note that E5-O has two Tsu-class.

MS Northern Archipelago off the B Atoll (36-5) [Hard] Node: 25
New Deep-Sea Mobile Force I

◆ Kidou Butai Combined Fleet Day Battle ◆
== Detection ==
Formation: Fourth Cruising Formation / Enemy Formation: Third Cruising Formation
Engagement: Parallel
Contact: Success / Enemy Contact: Success

== Land-based Air Attack ==
-- Wave 1 --
Friendly Air Squadrons:
　Type 1 Attack Bomber Model 34 x 18, Type 1 Attack Bomber x 18, Type 1 Attack Bomber x 18, Type 2 Large Flying Boat x 4
Stage 1: Air Incapability
　Friendly: -22/58
　Enemy: -15/448
　Enemy Contact: Abyssal Avenger Torpedo Bomber Kai
Stage 2:
　Friendly: -0/33
　Enemy: -0/0

-- Wave 2 --
Friendly Air Squadrons:
　Type 1 Attack Bomber Model 34 x 18, Type 1 Attack Bomber x 18, Type 1 Attack Bomber x 18, Type 2 Large Flying Boat x 4
Stage 1: Air Incapability
　Friendly: -24/58
　Enemy: -20/433
　Enemy Contact: Abyssal Avenger Torpedo Bomber Kai
Stage 2:
　Friendly: -0/31
　Enemy: -0/0

== Air Battle ==
Stage 1: Air Superiority
　Friendly: -25/241
　Enemy: -167/397
　Contact: Tenzan Model 12 (Tomonaga Squadron)
　Enemy Contact: Abyssal Avenger Torpedo Bomber Kai
Stage 2: AA Cut-in type #5 ( Yuudachi Kai Ni Lv. 98, High-Angle Gun+AAFDx2/Radar )
　Friendly: -18/95
　Enemy: -126/174

== Battle Finished ==
- Enemy Main Fleet -
#1: CV Wo-Class Kai flagship HP: (160 → 0)/160 (-191)
#2: CV Wo-Class Kai flagship HP: (160 → 0)/160 (-192)
#3: CV Wo-Class Kai flagship HP: (160 → 0)/160 (-332)
#4: CA Ne-Class elite HP: (88 → 0)/88 (-148)
#5: DD Ha-Class (Late Type) HP: (38 → 0)/38 (-131)
#6: DD Ha-Class (Late Type) HP: (38 → 0)/38 (-55)

- Enemy Escort Fleet -
#7: CL He-Class flagship HP: (57 → 0)/57 (-82)
#8: CA Ne-Class elite HP: (88 → 0)/88 (-244)
#9: CL Tsu-Class elite HP: (66 → 0)/66 (-162)
#10: CL Tsu-Class elite HP: (66 → 0)/66 (-105)
#11: DD Ha-Class (Late Type) HP: (38 → 0)/38 (-76)
#12: DD Ha-Class (Late Type) HP: (38 → 0)/38 (-76)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261572
It's useless for 5-5 too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261984

We still dunno the chance of AACI Tsu has if it exists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262009
What the fuck anon, wash off the soap pls.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking finally

[Anonymous No.]

>>16254915
Shut up, Kaga is best CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262058
*In some cases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262031
It's from a chink thread.
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=10552095&page=27#pid205831833Anchor

Speaking of which, chinks have tested the Kikka Kai in 5-5 and 6-5. I'd translate it but I have other shit to do first.
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=10566555

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262058
Nope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262009
This is just sad.

>>16262109
>chinks have tested the Kikka Kai in 5-5 and 6-5
Could you spoiler general consensus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261877
There is no evidence of Tsu AACI. All bomber losses can be accounted for if you consider Tsu-class fixed and proportional AA; the existence of Tsu AACI is just a misconception that's been widely spread among the uninformed playerbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262109
I'm using Kikka right now, all it does it knock out a DD or nothing at all.
Maybe it'll work better on LBAS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262130
It's worse because it has hilariously low range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262130
Just bench it until the devs introduce Abyssal jets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262130
>complain about jets for a year
>they fucking suck
Shinano is next, isn't she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262130

Jet Keiun has 15 DB stat so there is that...

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>people will modernize this creature

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261984
I don't even get how allied cut in is supposed to work. isn't yudachi cut in only supposed to be able to shoot down like 6 planes? how does she kill 126?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262197

Those are the combined loses (all sources) that suffered the abyssals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262167
It's all a part of Tanaka's master plan to weed out the most retarded players. They'll scrap the jets immediately or fail to level them because they're not ZOMG GAME BREAKERS. When the Abyssal fleet gets their own jets, those idiots will be up shit creek without a paddle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262128
Thank you. However it's weird that bombers only get slaughter on nodes with Tsu, the difference is huge while Tsu's stats aren't that ridiculous compared to some abyssals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262192
Why not? - she's like present for your other kanmusu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262121
>Could you spoiler general consensus?
Completely useless. Missed more than half the time, did scratch half the remaining time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262225
That's purely because of equipment multipliers, and because base AA is square rooted for abyssals. Naturally, this means that enemies with HA mounts (Tsu-class, AA Hime) or AA guns (Arty Imps) will have much higher shootdown values than other abyssals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262225

I think this is due to how scarce are good HA guns in the abyssal side. Almost all guns equiped on the are red or yellow.

This are the only 2 decent HA guns the abyssals have

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/5inch_Twin_Dual_Purpose_Gun_Mount

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/4inch_Twin_Dual_Purpose_Gun_Mount_%2B_CIC

Funnly enough, Tsu is the only mook that uses the first one and the other one is used by another abyssal that have been asociated with abyssal AACI too: the artillery imp.

If you see the formula for abyssal AA in the wiki, you see that HA guns have one of the biggest multipliers in the game. There are no abyssal mooks equiped with abyssal air radars. The only decent AA machine guns in equiped on Abyssal mooks are, oh surprise, the artillery imp.

So basically, from what I'm seeing, the only 2 abyssal mooks that have a decent AA equipment setup are Tsu class and the artillery imp. Ad this is where their fame of "AA cut-in" comes from.

Now, I can now imagine Tsu class Flagship having a couple of this

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/4inch_Twin_Dual_Purpose_Gun_Mount_%2B_CIC

this bad boy

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Air_Radar_Mark.II


and a floatplane for maximum despair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260783
Interview was translated on /a/
>>>/a/150950639
>>>/a/150950692
>>>/a/150950739
>>>/a/150950788
>>>/a/150950880
>>>/a/150950916

[Anonymous No.]

>T: Right, well, I want to implement pure jet fighters as well, paper designs though they may be. Also, and I'm getting ahead of myself again, I also hope to implement the pioneer of anti-submarine patrol bombers, the Toukai. You'll be able to suppress those enemy So-class subs! Maybe!
I knew the bastard was doing it on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262305
You forgot a 5th slot with a sonar. And opening ASW

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262305
Nah, she'll have Talos SAMs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262323
>You'll be able to suppress those enemy So-class subs! Maybe!
Goddamn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262323
>>16262340
I want to suppress So with my dick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262323
>Maybe!
Top kek, Tanaka really is the real final boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262323
All we need is that they just stop subs to ever get echelon formation.

It just doesn't make any sense for enemy subs to switch from free kills mode (abreast) to nuclear faggotry mode (echelon).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262313
>shizuma
>shibafu
>conishi
>jiji

So these 4 are Tanaka butt buddies. Nowonder they get all the new stuff and arts, nice nepotism there.

[Anonymous No.]

>E: How was the response?
>T: I was involved in not just the overall plot and concept art but also the screenplay, setting design, and recording as well. It was thanks especially to [Shouta] Amano-san (a producer at Diomedea) and his colleagues that we were able to get KanColle across on the silver screen.

He didn't answer, kek.

[Anonymous No.]

So fighters are confirmed to be paper planes, guess no Me 262 ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262371
What about Fujikawa and Akira?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262386
They're already Kadokawa employees so they can't be butt buddies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262367
Don't worry, in next event they'll be in double line. And two events later, line ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262371
Fujikawa and Ichiso release way more promo and alternate CG than the big 3 and jiji by a very long shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262371
At least Yoshinori and Conishi are generally solid, and Jiji is improving (though not at the rate that Drew and Bob were). The less said about Shibafu the better though.

Come to think of it wasn't Yoshinori the one who came up with some of the concept drawings? After all, Shimakaze was supposed have brown hair and be Fubuki.

>>16262381
That's what the Kikka is :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262386
Wage slaves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262397
Because they're wage slaves at Kadokawa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262399
That was just prototype Fubuki which turned into Shimakaze, the general concept was by Tanaka and put on paper by Shibafu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262399
Well Akagi and Kaga and their rigging look so similar to that artist who had the same idea, can't find the art now but their arrows heads were torpedoes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262405
ichiso isn't. he must just really love drawing shigure.

[Anonymous No.]

If jets are shit why are they 5 stars?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262519
Because rarity doesn't equal quality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261397
What a load of bullshit. Shit's unusable in events especially with Wo Kai and Tsu holocausts from the last event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262592
Go ahead and don't use them then. Don't come crying to us when you get assraped by Abyssal jets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262615
So? It's not a big deal when we have AACI to counter that. Ancient Hime's opening torp in line ahead is more of a threat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262615
They're fighter-bombers, they'll be be the ones getting raped by Abyss Jets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262636
>Implying they won't make the Abyssal Jets just strong enough to overwhelm conventional planes while being a match for Kikka

[Anonymous No.]

So according to the interview, Tanaka apparently dived to see Sara?
I wasn't expecting that.

[Anonymous No.]

I heard that you just have to unlock the landbase to unlock the Kikka quest. Which you can just buy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262399
>That's what the Kikka is :^)
Actually the Kikka is only the Me262 superficially.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262688
I was being facetious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262644
Is he the ultimate shipfucker?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262644
Where did he say that?

[Anonymous No.]

How do i get OTOs?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263002
As a fellow newfag who doesn't have them, apparently you them from Italian Battleships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263009
aah, I was looking at the German ones, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16258428
Shigure is a good girl.

[Anonymous No.]

Jets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kd-7AxDelI

What are they for anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263027
You mean yets right?

[Anonymous No.]

Good god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263027
Taihou doesn't need jets as she gets plenty of love from me everyday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263027
Katsuragi already passed Taihou as the ass carrier long ago and now we have a carrier with T&A. Literally no point to her anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262460
Ichiso loves drawing Shigure so much he draws her for other franchises.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263027
Not for you shrimp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263080
So much so, he draws her multiple times for each franchise.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph58519c7d7295f

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263077
>Katsuragi already passed Taihou as the ass carrier long ago
Not even close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263148
I meant in official art. Katsuragi has a nice ass while Taiha is flat.

[Anonymous No.]

Order of likelihood of getting jets:
Sara > Potatoes >> Cloud dragons > Potato dragons >> Shinano >>> CVLs >>>> Akitsu Maru >>>>> Taihou

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263180
>anyone being excited for jets after seeing them in action

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263182
To be fair Japan had some shit jets

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263180
>Kaga over Zepp, Aquila and Shinano

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263180
Shinano probably could handle jets. I mean the Midways could handle 40s jets without major modfication. They like Essex class needed more modification for mid 50s onwards though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263182
Once the FH phantom trump card is mass produced along with the Midway class Ja-I mean the abyssals will be toast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263180
>Hiryuu and Souryuu
>Cloud dragons
>Being able to handle jets.
Woah there partner.

[Anonymous No.]

Would you get this thing if it had your favorite KanMusu?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkcKaNqfykg

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263230
The future is here and I look forward to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263206
What's the big deal with jets being only compatible with so few ships? Do they need to be long? Does the flight deck get ruined? Why can't everybody just get a catapult installed if that is all that is needed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263234
You need the carrier to be able to withstand the jets, especially during takeoff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263230
>get Ooyodo version
>SAKSEN
>SAKSEN
>SAKSEN

[Anonymous No.]

I want to rape Asakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263234
Because apparently they need an armored flight deck AND catapult. Taihou has no catapult and Graf has no armored deck. Normal Kai Ni cranes can't use them either despite having the catapults.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263379
Zuikaku is going to get Shoukaku killed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263312
How about I rape you first, fuccboi.

[Anonymous No.]

This quest is going to give me cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263432
Use support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263437
What support do I use for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263491
Buy screws to make Tanaka happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263491
Call Jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263491
Emotional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263494
Calls to Mexico are expensive though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263505
They're only 10 cents a minute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263491
compass fairy cut-in

[Anonymous No.]

>>16261716
I can't find the AA formula for 深海 on that WikiWiki page, only the values for your own ships and set-ups. Am I blind, or is it on another page / in another link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263596
Never mind, found the source from Wikia.
http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/netgame/13745/1439793270/47
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BRXkPqAGfbTqoREsRYeKq3D7KOTy-63ZzooxWVZHePw/edit#gid=1095826028

[Anonymous No.]

Use support they said.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I reading the fit gun chart right?

Is the 46cm really unfit on even Yamato herself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263624
Akatsuki slowly reaches shitgure levels of choke potential.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263230

Please post modern Japan, don't kill yourself like that. Please, don't, wake up already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263641
Nagato-class and Yamato-class have neutral fit for every gun in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263343
Graf zwei incoming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263649
>He says this on /jp/ of all places.

>>16263662
Okay, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263432
Did you sparkle everyone?

>>16263642
Akatsuki was always shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263641
There's a slight penalty for equipping multiple guns but not something you should worry about in case of Hotels.

>>16263662
Wrong, 46cm are overweight on Big7.

[Anonymous No.]

Does the 16inch still have a penalty on Iowa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263722
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263722
That got fixed pretty soon after.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263777
That should have been Fubuki.

[Anonymous No.]

how tf are you meant to beat the 13 expedition daily with only 2 fleets
do you guys keep the game on all night so when you wake up you go straight to quests and the overnight expeditions will count towards your shits or is that too tryhard?

also is the movie subbed yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263804
>13 expedition daily
It's 10, also 3 fleets help a lot, and if you're running exped 2 it's piss easy. The movie BD's won't come our for a few months, so no, no subs until then, newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263808
>It's 10
what
>exped 2
>newfag
I have cap buckets. fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263812
Then run exped 6, genius. Even running expeds 5 and 21 would get you the 13 expeds for both quests easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263812

Keep telling that to yourself, maybe some day it will be true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263812
But you don't have cap resources? Fuck off scrub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263812
(You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263812
>capped buckets
>a week after the event finished

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263812
Only a newfag would ask such a retarded question, one fleet doing expedition 6 is enough for the dailies.

>inb4 I have capped resources too
Then you wouldn't care about that daily to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263804
24 hours lets you do expedition 2 48 times. You can do 13 times in 6.5 hours.

>>16263808
3 + 10 I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263812
>>16263874
Or expedition 6 36 times. You can do 13 times in 8 hours 40 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263874
>>16263879
Not to forget that there's the android version now, so it's not like you have to be at a computer to do your expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Type 2 Seaplane Fighter Kai or PBY-5A Catalina?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262109 here, just done with the translation for his 5-5 records. Starting on 6-5 now.

Using Kikka in normal maps test records

Let's ditch the small talk, having set my alarm so as to receive the 48 hour expeditions, after acquisition I threw it to 5-5 right away for it to gain ranks.
Right now there isn't any plugin that can support the jet system, [strike]oi KC3 can you stop reporting things wrongly[/strike], so the following was recorded manually, and I also added data for comparison, as reference.

5-5

I tested the following lineup, in the picture the Reppuu Kai is unranked, to represent the Kikka.
This setup has exactly 420 fighter power (so as to guarantee AS+ regardless of how much fighter power max ranked Kikka has), during AS+ the chance of first part of contact is 100.2%.

After max ranking Kikka I swapped the T97 Tomonaga in the image for a Ryuusei Kai, resulting in me not getting AS+ for the first battle, showing that the bonus fighter power Kikka gets from proficiency is less than that for fighters, it's more likely to be on the level of fighter-bombers, and less likely to have its own bonus, or be on the level of seaplane bombers. [Note: guy missed out the fact that he got -6 fighter power as a result of swapping out T97 Tomonaga for Ryuusei Kai, which means that any bonus the Kikka got on its own is 2 at most, which is less than 6 for seaplane bombers. Most likely it's 0, like for carrier-based bombers. Also I think he should have tried 419, 418 etc fighter power]

Taking Kikka results in one more jet assault phase before the aerial phase, where only jets participate in, although there aren't any enemy planes encountered, you'll still eat a 2nd round of enemy ship AA. The jets will fly across the field really fast, then jet struck by the animation of AA, and lose speed as it attacks the enemy ships (as a matter of fact this process is a bit comical).

In a total of 14 sorties, 5 retreats, 4 dead ends [lit. ditch], and 5 boss encounters, the Kikka jet phase participated 47 times.
Of these 47 times, it missed 25 times (53.2%), hit but did insufficient damage 12 times (25.5%), hit and did sufficient damage 10 times (21.3%).
Of these, the Kikka was at max rank during 16 of those times, it missed 9 times (52.9%), hit but did insufficient damage 3 times (17.6%), hit and did sufficient damage 5 times (29.4%).

Sufficient damage here refers to 40+ damage (target doesn't matter), because the enemy DDs' HP is 39. If you're lucky you can sink a DD 2-3 out of 10 times.
The highest damage it did in the jet assault is 109 in the first node, but most of the time it wasn't max ranked, I also didn't put the jet in the largest slot, so I can't explain what the problem was.
Low damage and accuracy 1) have always been a thing for dive bombers, and 2) are because there isn't any contact in the jet assault phase, maybe when we get jet recons and jet torpedo bombers things may change for the better.

After the third battle the 21 slot the Kikka is in is left with 12, 6, 16, 16, 9, 11 ,7, 12, 9, 13, 15, 5, 14, 17, an average of 11.6 planes (55.2%).
After max rank the 21 slot had 13, 15, 5, 14, 17, an average of 12.8 planes (61.0%).
After Kikka got max ranks, Saratoga's 18 plane slots had 16, 17, 18, 15, 14, 15, 11, 7, 10, 13 planes left, an average of 13.6 planes (75.6%).

Kikka's hit rate could have something to do with proficiency, but even max ranked Kikka would get shot down quite a bit after three extra jet assault phases, the extra resistance to being shot down that the devs mentioned jets have didn't manifest well. [Note: he forgot the resistance only applied against non-jet aircraft]
In the 5-5 environment, the 21 slot holding the jet was often left with single digits at the end, so there's no need to test the jet on the even smaller 12 slot, on the other hand the normal torpedo bombers are safe even in an ~18 slot.

Steel consumed was around 20-25k, combined with the dead ends I used 2 months of 5-5's worth.
CV aerial phase on the other hand was very irritable [?], only for last kill did I need to go into night battle to get the kill. But this has nothing to do with jets, you could get the same effect with an Iwai plane (to be more exact it's a reduced fighter power requirement for fighters).
One more thing, armoured CVs equipped with jet(s) have long range, if you don't want them to steal the first attack you need very long range guns.
After a day of recovering resources I'll make a new record for 6-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16260987
Don't burger guns get overweight penalty on many ships (bongos, pastas. warspite, bisko)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263904
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263905
Doesn't matter because of the +4 acc.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking useless Hiei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263987
Eh, I see your point but I'd rather use 38kai that have +3 and fit bonus on most BBs.

I suppose burgerthrowers could be maxed for Nagatos and hotels (and Iowa) but that's a lot of screws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264003

Except wehraboo guns have +18 firepower while freedom guns have +24 firepower

[Anonymous No.]

I used the Kikka for a bunch of sorties in 3-3 and it didn't cost me steel for resupplying. Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264014
Steel is automatically deducted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264014

It's taken directly from your steel stock each time you sortie because they costs steel each time you use then in battle, not when you resuply then.

[Anonymous No.]

So, is 6/37/38 the new expedition meta?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16262313

Since the thread on /a/ vanished I went ahead and documented the posts there and will thank the anons there again once a new thread goes live.

So for anyone that missed the thread I'll put this up here just in case. I'll go ahead and say thanks for noting that someone worked on the translations there.

http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Kensuke_Tanaka_Interview:_Kancolle_Style_Vol._3

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264035
laughing at your life if you're even remotely serious

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264038
It's just /a/nonymous, one of the /a/ KanColle translators, who translated the whole thing not several anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264019
>>16264020
oh shit.

Well it's not like I'm short on steel, but useful to know it.

Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264035
It's 2/6/37 you Orel hating fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263987
Do we even know the actual values of fit gun bonus/malus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264055
Check the Vita datamine :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264064
er, got a link to that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264019
>>16264020
That's fucking gay. "Invisible" resource sinks shouldn't be allowed. They could at least make notifications.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264088
Why aren't you complaining about invisible resource sinks in regards to akashi's repair thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264096
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264088
Remember when Akagi got her reputation because the bauxite count didn't update until you went back to the main screen and people didn't realize what she was eating?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264117
She consumes resources while repairing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264128
That was made up by the wikia, it never actually happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264051
What about 21/5/2?

[Anonymous No.]

[Damn, I don't remember using this many commas when I learned chink.]

6-5

As before, rankless Reppuu Kai is used to represent Kikka.

This setup gives 399 fighter power, but after I discovered a problem I swapped Zuikaku's Murata with the Kikka, increasing the fighter power buffer (I'll explain later).

>>16264173
Enjoy your no bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264176
Land plane setup, 1st and 2nd squads sent to boss, 3rd squad on air defence. [Lol at his squadron names]

The main fleet's jet assault phase takes place before the land-based aerial attack. There is no jet assault at air raid nodes. It's unknown for all sub nodes [but we already know it m8] and for aerial battle [eg. 1-6] nodes.

[His fleet goes A-C-D-G-M. Battle nodes 1, 2, 3 and 4 are A, C, D, M respectively.]

Battle node; Damage; Surviving planes after battle
1; 41; 24
2; miss; 17
3; 109; 14
4; N/A; 0

1; 53; 24
2; miss; 7
3; 10; 7
4; miss; 0

When equipping the Kikka in Zuikaku's 24 slot, this is the damage done and plane count left after fighting each node (other than the air raid node) for 6-5's first 2 kills.

The N/A for the first boss battle means all the remaining planes got shot down, of the 14 planes that participated in the jet assault none of them made it to the aerial phase, as you can see the current stage gives jet aircraft severely insufficient protection. Because they were wiped out in the first sortie, the ranks from yesterday's 5-5 also reset.
Although the jets survived to the aerial phase for the second boss battle, they still got wiped out in the aerial phase.
Logically the fighter power should be enough for AS+ on the second node, but I got AS. If you remember the phase orders you'll find that the problem is, the jet assault phase occurs before the aerial phase, so the lowered fighter power due to jets being shot down during the assault phase can affect the result of fighter combat in the aerial phase, so I moved the Kikka to the 34 slot.

>送一波不要钱的村田
What did he mean by this?

Battle node; Damage; Surviving planes after battle
1; miss; 34
2; 11; 19
3; 51; 17
4; 8; 10

1; 51; 34
2; miss; 27
3; miss; 25
4; miss; 11

When equipping the Kikka in Zuikaku's 34 slot, this is the damage done and plane count left after fighting each node (other than the air raid node) for 6-5's 3rd and 4th kills.
In a map with Tsu-class appearing the 34 slot Kikka could at least make it to the end, but this isn't completely the jet assault's fault, the 24 slot normal torpedo bomber was also often at risk of being wiped out.
For the third sortie I still only got AS at the second node, after further adjustments I got AS+ during the 4th sortie.

This is unrelated to jets, but I'll add a short message here, currently when land bases attack the enemy combined fleet they'll correctly receive the losses from incoming enemy ship AA.
[strike]I heard you guys believe this to be for balancing purposes.[/strike]

Why only 4 sets of results? Because in 4 sorties I really did get 3 daytime S ranks, including a daytime perfect S, [strike]quickly ask me why I didn't bring night recon.[/strike]
These results are unrelated to jet assault (you can tell from the damage done), it's more of because the Kikka affected the attack order, guaranteeing the armoured CV attacking before Maya and the CLT.
Why didn't I continue? Because I ran out of bauxite, one more day of regen.

[Anonymous No.]

I took several fighters (all had max proficiency level) from my carriers, equipped bombers, grinded 3-2 for a little, and when I was switching planes again I noticed that 2 fighters lost all ranks and another one lost 1 level. What the hell is happening?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264176
Hope you don't mind giving me your verdict regarding hourly expedition(s).

Then, 5 / 6 (6x ships fully sparkled) / 2 ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264194
If you don't lack steel, why not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264176
>Damn, I don't remember using this many commas when I learned chink.

It's the same way we'd use commas in English so as to split information up by sections, to indicate a pause, etc. And in chink there are two, the shorter pause and the longer pause, but I'm pretty sure you already knew that, so I'll shut up now.

还好是简体字，不是繁体字。

Separately:
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/12/15/kancolle-kai-ps-vita-ending-shipment-sales-japan-end-january-2017/

KanColle Kai confirmed for A Mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264194
6x sparkled ships for 5 or 6 is just a meme

not really worth the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264200
I see.

Then, 21 / 6 / 2 ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264222
>300 200 200 200
>150 100 100 100
>75 50 50 50

Are those morale?
Or, perhaps, gained Exp? Just to make sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264247
21 is way inferior to 5. You only use 21 if you're already running 5 (eg. 2/5/21).

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.siliconera.com/2016/12/15/kancolle-kai-ps-vita-ending-shipment-sales-japan-end-january-2017/

Kancolle Kai is kill confirmed

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264287

late >>16264215

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264287

Already posted above, but I hope this means that they're going to give our shitty Flash game a little more attention in the future. Yeah, I know that the Vita game's development was outsourced to some other LiterallyWho developer, but still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264273
True. More Fuel(s) maybe, but with longer expedition time.

Anyway, much thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264183
I slightly adjusted the setup from yesterday, stopped skimping on those few points of fighter power, and started with 420 fighter power. Because yesterday the Kikka lost during the jet assault phase lowered the fighter power enough to lose AS+ at the second node.

Battle node; Damage; Surviving planes after battle
1; miss; 34
2; 11; 17
3; miss; 14
4; N/A; 0

1; miss; 34
2; 19; 34
3; miss; 27

1; 47; 34
2; miss; 26
3; miss; 15
4; 6;

For the last 2 kills, the first sortie resulted in S rank after yasen, the second resulted in a retreat due to RNG, the third resulted in daytime perfect S for last kill.
Before I started today I max ranked the Kikka in preparation, regrettably in the first sortie the 34 slot Kikka was left with 14 when I reached the boss, and again the jets were completely wiped out in the jet assault phase resetting the proficiency to 0, meaning that even putting jets in the largest slot may not allow them to survive a sortie to a map with strong enemy AA.
In the second sortie RNG forced a retreat at the air raid node, but on the way in the second battle the jets encountered no enemy AA fire (the enemy ship AA completely failed), the animation showed the jets speeding across the whole screen instead of slowing down halfway through due to being hit by enemy AA fire. Not only that, for that battle all 34 planes survived the aerial phase, was this due to luck?
In the third sortie after returning from a successful clear I forgot to record the remaining planes, but since the proficiency didn't reset to 0 that means it wasn't wiped out.

Damage wise Kikka attacked 25 times (excluding the times where it got wiped out), miss 13 times (52%), insufficient damage 6 times (24%), sufficient damage 6 times (24%).

>>16264215
Well yeah but half the places where he stuffed commas I'd have used a full stop instead. Maybe it's because in informal settings as you ramble on and on you keep stuffing extra commas. I see it in English on 4chan all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264332
Also forgot pic again. I really should stop doing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264332
Yeah, probably that. I'm as guilty of that as anyone else on here or in any situation where you end up typing walls-of-text, although I try to keep myself in check by actually reading what I type afterwards before posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264262
Yes, it's gained Exp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264148
Eat shit, faggot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQARWsJrrrE at 7:54 clearly shows fuel and ammo updating instantly while bauxite stays the same. It does update when he repairs a ship, but not when he resupplies.

It's also visible at the very end of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0br7aEGY-IM and at 4:04 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZKWQ4l3jgU

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264273
21 can get great success without annoying yourself with sparkling. But yes, if you sparkle 4 ships after every 3-4 expeditions 5 is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264382
Lel no, even unsparkled 5 is better than sparkled 21.

[Anonymous No.]

2 DAYS WITHOUT KEIUN UPGRADE KILL ME

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264394
And if you compared the hourly gain, you would be wrong because gs 21 will give more Fuel and Ammo at the cost of no steel baux.
Yeah, ok the bonus isn't that significant but it's still the better average quest to get fuel than 5 (no SparkleColle).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263905
Yes, they do. What about it?
When I said 16inch is the best for everyone I meant it. Other guns can be considered better only in some specific scenarios.

>>16264055
Yes, read the OP.

>>16264074
Don't even look for it, Vita was proved to have different mechanics.

[Anonymous No.]

So uh,what's the consensus on what expeds to run for stockpiling

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264416
I see that someone here didn't consider the fuel/ammo consumption of the expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264429
The ones you need with your resources. Do the math.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264434
...
I'm putting a dunce cap on myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264382
>But yes, if you sparkle 4 ships after every 3-4 expeditions 5 is better.
Are you retarded? Sparkle lasts 12 expeditions. For ex5 you should use 5 sparkled ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264434
But what if it's not efficient enough and jaypee makes fun of me!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264443
Haha, look at this nerd and his shitty exped management!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264469
See, I'm going to have to kill myself now from this embarrassment!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264443
That would be a good thing because people who would pick inefficient expeditions deserve to be made fun of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264462
My cute girl is a battleship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264462
atlast

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264442
Why 5 ships?

[Anonymous No.]

God damm it, unless abyssal AA forrmula is changed when facing jet bombers they are going to be shit no matter how powerful they are because their slots will be wiped out easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264487
>devs tested jet performance on 1-4 and it was o.k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264487
They'll be good once we get enough jets so it's not 1 or 2 slots being focused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264481
5 ships give ~95% GS rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264496
But exp5 requires only 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264481
With 5-6 ship(s), you would get "consistent" Great Success, instead just using 4.
But even with 6 ship(s), sometimes you will only get Success. Based RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264506
Got it, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264462
I want to bang Naganami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264495

They'll be subject to enemy AA twice each battle. That's the main problem. If sometimes Cranes K2 big slot can be wiped out or brought to single digits then I don't want to know how jets will fare in events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264513
>Ayy~ you know your stuff, Admiral. How lovely. That's why you can count on me~. Haven't felt it for a while but dang, it's sweet~

This lines, seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

I ran out of fuel farming 5-4 to get Uzuki for a quest. I haven't got Uzuki, but I did get my first Yuugumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264528
Yuugumo turned out to be sexier than I expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264533
I mean, her CG does show her licking her finger seductively. But I'd much rather have this quest finished.

[Anonymous No.]

>Crafting second engine, Kikka Kai, and sextuple torpedo in one day
So much high value equipment smashed. It hurts.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone please explain what is the difference between goin to a maelstrom with or withou a radar? You loose 20% or flat 20 fuel from your fleet wich seems like pretty much the same thing (4-2-B in question).

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263027
Jets are bad, stay away from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264572
40% w/o radar
-8% loss for each radar you bring, minimum 20% loss

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264565
>Shiden Kai 2
>Zero M52
>Reppuu
>Ryuusei
>unupgraded quints
>high value
lel

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264528
>>16264533
>>16264537
Cool. Where do I subscribe?
At least you're capable of appreciating good girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264493
>implying they test shit before patching the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263182
>>16263184
At this rate the Big E will have worse stats than Aquila.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264487
Just don't use any that isn't a pure fighter and problem solved!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264669

That is why I specified Jet bombers. Jet fighters will probably be good.

[Anonymous No.]

>However you can use Land-Base Aerial Support in some of the world 6 maps.

Not for 6-2, 6-1, or even 6-3, me guess?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264713
Why would you need support for those maps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264716
Gaining AS, I guess.

Well, to be honest, I'm concerned about 6-2 node E. Not sure If I'm just going to make a Reppuu mule CV, for 252 AS.

[Anonymous No.]

So, given how the hype for jets turned out, here's my predictions for Enterprise:
>24 HP
>1 armor
>Short range
>Slow speed
>5 luck
>Only has two slots for a total of 24 planes
>can't equip torpedo bombers
>sinks the first time she gets hit with a torpedo
>somehow still consumes as much as a Yamato-class BB
>Nips love her anyway

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone want to try tackling 6-4 from the right so you can see both jet LBAS phase and jet aerial phase at the boss? Anyway, comments on the first page, just to get a feel of how the chinks think.

>Thanks for the detailed testing, so it seems like they've got no use

>However, I'll just say, things left in the quagmire will get some buff in events (base ASW-opening strike, Akitsushima-branching rules, taitei, dive bombers-nuke damage)

>25k steel, you might as well just keep it as a trophy

>Senpai, this damage…we can only hope for jet torpedo bombers
>(we need guided missiles and rockets to boost these torpedoes)

>Current mechanics for jets are still incomplete, especially their steel consumption which is much higher than expected, from the results they're currently just toys, I suggest TTKs to hold their screws and wait and refrain from getting that kai Keiun on a whim.

>The jet fighter-bomber situation doesn't seem good right now, there's a high chance of future buffs and fixes

>20+k steel, big ships don't even use that much for 5-5…

>I'm guessing that the mechanics are incomplete, the jet system isn't done yet.
>Just like how seaplane fighters and land-based planes were at the start.

>I'm sitting here waiting for BUFF,
>and other plane types.
>Kikka nad Keiun can go in the pit.

>Thanks for the tests mate
>Right now seems like it's just a fighter-bomber with 2 aerial phases? High consumption for no real benefit, I can only say Tanaka's just testing waters with jets, so we'll have to look at the jet torp bombers and jet fighters when they come out

>…but these are five star planes. The mechanics have to be changed… From the data that's all there is to jets…

>For a theoretical jet attacker implemented in future I think that using HS293 and Fritz X (guided missiles) would be a bit more reliable than torpedoes. There should also be new ships specially designed to deal with such jets, since compared to the relatively slower torpedoes launched from close range, launching guided missiles from farther away would at least keep you out of the range of the enemy ships' AA? (Here this refers to 40 and 20 AA range that medium and small guns have)

>After over a year you release this broken stuff I've got to hand it to you
>But back then there weren't any jet torpedo bombers Carrier-based jets only had missiles and bombs The yet implemented jet attacker Could very well be those American postwar carrier-based jets However I don't think that Tanaka will implement postwar equipment so quickly Since WW2 already had guided missiles This jet attacker could very well be one made just for display

>Speaking of which dive bombers have some interesting properties, how they fare against installations, whether CVs equipping them are rendered unable to attack installations like if they brought fighter-bombers still need to be tested.
>Taitei can help bring a jet to 6-4 boss for LBAS, when I tested it on Keiun it also had a separate jet assault phase.

>Just throwing an easy way to test steel consumption http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=10566460&rand=193

>Initially rockets on small ships against installations, was a complete joke
>Early interceptors, because air defence did nothing, were treated like vases
>Now these things are useless jokes, but in the future they might be useful, although I'm not discounting the possibility that they'll stay like this forever

>Thanks for the tests mate

>Earlier someone tested against Hoppou on 3-5, the conclusion was that CVs carrying jets won't aim for the boss
>Currently CVs with dive bombers equipped can't iattack installations
>As for LBAS an extra round of jet assault is also useless
>Look at how someone realistically tackles 6-5, because of the low range you need Taitei to haul it there, it's not worth it

>Had jets been implemented in spring 16 they'd have been game breakers, an extra round in E6 would've brought down two more installations.
>And the jets' dive bomb stat is pretty good, Kikka's is between the T96 land attacker's and the T1 land attacker's, Keiun's is even higher than Ginga's, if their damage is on par with land attackers I think there'd be merit to using Taitei to haul them to the boss (given that they can reach there, like for 6-4; if even Taitei can't do it then never mind).

Later on, someone pointed out that from what the devs said and what the test results show:
Jets are less easiy shot down in fighter combat (Stage 1, S1 for short) involving normal planes
Jets are just as easily shot down by ship AA (S2)
Jets perform the same as dive bombers in aerial phase

Even later on someone decided to test 1 Taitei + 3 jets on 6-4.
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=10566555&page=4#pid205925671Anchor

Also seems like the Poi viewer has already updated to take the jet phases into account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263230
That is pretty depressing.

I'll take ten.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264771
>Novembershit
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264074
Check the archives.

>>16264427
Same mechanics for some aspects, different mechanics for others. Besides the results are all over the place eg. compare normal 35.6cm compared to proto 35.6cm on Kirishima, and see normal 41cm on Italia.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there different success rate in LSC for Bismarck, with Z1, Z1 kai, or Z1 zwei as fs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16263184
Jet Shiden would be best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264655
You mean Shitnano. Big E will be stronger than Sara as she fought in the many major battles.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.cross-ring.net/web/POW/2016/11/kancolleviewerx-303.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264892
If there is it's never been proven. The success rate we know doesn't differentiate between different flagships.

For a laugh I would put every kraut boat I owned (including I-8) in the fleet while doing bismarck recipes. Doubt it made a difference, but it was amusing at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264892
The input is what matters, anyone able will have the same rate with the same recipe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264980
Woah, you can change image in KCV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265015
It's KCVX, not KCV.

[Anonymous No.]

waow

[Anonymous No.]

http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9533070
>all those plugins
>literally having a plugin just to check if you have a taiha ship in the fleet you're about to sortie
I have no words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265046
>no Mikazuki
Almost impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265106
He most likely married the whole class but you can't fit everyone in a fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>What the deal, investing so much into someone like me... I-I'm fine with it though.

What's her problem?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265136
Drops too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265136
common ship problem

[Anonymous No.]

Are you guys still using KCV? Which version (or fork) is you guys using?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265246
melon

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265258
Try KCVX

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

http://fleet.diablohu.com/
Chink fleet builder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16264462
Woah, it's finally scanned.

[Anonymous No.]

>Buon Giorno!

At least they finally fixed the Giornov here.

[Anonymous No.]

Get your hi-res images of every single piece of kancolle official art released up to Warspite.

https://exhentai.org/g/1006087/0f80491383/
https://exhentai.org/g/1006088/cebc13fb8e/

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265393
Sweet, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265393
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265390
High res sprites fucking when? I didn't even notice that seaplane fighter catapult set to the side nor the Tenacament engraving on the turret. She's also smiling, I thought it was just an "O" expression.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265393
>jpg artifacts

Fug

[Anonymous No.]

This is going to be her valentine art next year isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265415
Her mouth is definitely different from the game sprite, it's not just a resolution thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265424
Zara kai, maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265424
It appears so.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265393
Man I keep forgetting how much seasonals Bono has, sweet jesus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265452
>me on the top right

[Anonymous No.]

>>16265452
>can also closely imitate Abyssal designs
I want to marry Fujikawa.

[Anonymous No.]

>Still no proper scan of this

Feelsbadman

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>>16265480
Awful.

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>>16265393
After looking through these I have really come to appreciate Akira some more.

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>>16265480
So Akatsuki does have pantyhose in this but thigh highs in another, just stick to one already.

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>>16265393
When the hell could Ooyodo adjust her glasses? I don't remember this.

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>>16265393
I'm getting an eyeboner.

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>>16265480
Looks like shit desu.

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>>16265488
Well yeah her abyssals are great.

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>>16265452
It's funny because Kiyoshimo died from enemy aircraft.

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>>16265494
https://youtu.be/LjUtPsWrwTo?t=42

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>>16265493
You can't really tell those are pantyhose unless you lift her skirt.

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>>16265499
Obviously, just helps that I can appreciate them more due to them being hi res

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>>16265503
And she wants to be a BB? What an idiot.

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You can pinpoint the exact moment she's thinking about dicks, wasting your screws.

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>>16265509
I'm just saying, the thighband usually seen on pantyhose can be seen in that image and the other image you can clearly see them as thigh highs.

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>>16265512
What's the problem? How do you think Yamato sunk?

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>>16265510
Yeah, she should stick to abyssals.

>>16265519
I think that's the point,

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DO YOU REMEMBER ME?

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>>16265519
I know, that's what I mean.

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>>16265528
Very well.

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>>16265528
I still don't understand the clothing.

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>>16265528
What's with her right leg positioning?

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>>16265528
That's definitely a jacket

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>>16265528
Nope, stay in the ocean you bitch.

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>>16265528
I want a rematch with 2 AA Hime.

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Devs missed the perfect opportunity to have her be the meat shield for Jelly Fish Hime last event.

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>>16265528
Sure, battleslut princess. You've introduced the most retarded "gimmiku" game mechanics. Fuck off and stay fucked off, please.

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>>16265536
You mean the chest area? Similar to this.

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>>16265549
I always wondered why the damaged form had a very different sharpness and texture.

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>>16265552
She's basically grown up Hoppo, eh?

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>>16265555
Radiation does that to you. But on a serious note, it was probably done on purpose.

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>>16265549
Is this some King Kong shit?

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>tfw they are actually tears and not random shrapnel
;_;

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>>16265536
Underboobs and belly are exposed. The black lines are the edges of the clothing.

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>>16265564
It's what happens when you nuke a Japanese battleship twice.

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>>16265559
Yes.
Seriously Akira, stick to abyssals, your shipgirls thus far are trash in comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

Kaga's tits really are bigger.

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>>16265565
Well shit, just like the Jellyfish.

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>Yukikaze isn't flat
What?

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>>16265421
It keeps bothering me that drew's way of drawing the knee area always looks weird.

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>>16265576
Wow, that looks terrible.

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>>16265576
The saggiest

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>>16265564
The big guy (4u) is literally a gorilla.

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>>16265565
>black tears
>http://imagesofrenewal.com/pearl-harbor/the-oil-from-the-uss-arizona-the-black-tears/
What further proof do you need at this point.

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>>16265493
Can't a lady wear more than one thing?

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>>16265596
I don't think anyone ever even questioned it. Her being an installation even makes sense since she sunk in shallow water.

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>>16265596
>Fuel continues to leak from USS Arizona's wreckage. ... In fact, the oil that often coats the surface of the water surrounding the ship has added an emotional gravity for many who visit the memorial and is sometimes referred to as the “tears of the Arizona,” or “black tears.”

Respect.

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>>16265596
I believed it when she was an installation with Abyssal BB guns, red health gauge and used a flying boat during LBAS.

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>>16265596

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>The oil seeping is sometimes referred to as "the tears of the Arizona" or "black tears."

Well fug!
Is this real?

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>>16265596

.

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>>16265596
>Akira can fit this much detail on Abyssals
>and then there is this
It has to be on purpose, nobody can do this by accident.

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>>16265390
I want this smiling Zara in the game.

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>>16265637
And she was avenged by the first CV to be one the scene no less.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1561598

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>>16265641
This is a backlash from not being able to draw pure white skin, horns and/or glowing red eyes, Akira is forcefully restrained to draw a more normal girl and this is the result although likely not purposely.

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This doesn't look comfy at all.

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>>16265655
>time leaping to beat Big E
Not even that would work.

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>>16265596
So this is why Hasley was determined to have the Japanese language only spoken in Hell.

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>>16265691
>Halsey

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>>16265698
Ah sorry I get the spelling of his name and the singer's mixed up all the time.

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>>16265579
Why would she be? Even Shimakaze has some breasts.

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>>16265674
Inb4 built in air conditioner.

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>>16265493
Pretty funny.

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>>16265714
Only hotels and Iowas have that.

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>>16265674
She can stand!

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>>16265716
Did Iowa's have air conditioners during the war?

Also the newer USN submarines had air conditioners too.

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Pure love
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60388373

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>>16265739
The sameface always ruins it for me. It's not even good looking.

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Wow when the hell did Bono get a new kai sprite? I didn't see it in any of the update documentations before this.

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>>16265755
When we got jets.

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>>16265739

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>>16265739
vomit-chan.jpg

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>>16265508
I regret not getting into this game earlier. Doing AL/MI along with you all must've been a lot of fun.

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>>16264038
>It feels like just yesterday that I told Okamiya-san (DMM) prior to launch that I thought we could last at least half a year.
He really thought it was going to tank.

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>>16265781
Just like FF.

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>>16265781
Who wouldn't?

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https://github.com/Yoctillion/BattleInfoPlugin

This fork is pretty good.

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>>16265734
I don't know that air conditioning is a newfangled luxury in the US navy. The Nautilus had AC in every compartment I'm fairly sure.

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Kancolle Style scans when?

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>>16265798
I don't think the Destroyers and Cruisers had them at any rate. None of the older battleships before Iowa's either.
Also for WW2 Nautilus she recieved air conditioning during her modernization in 1941.
I think the only submarines in the USN that didn't have air conditioning were the old S series.

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>>16265739
>kusonagi

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Is this still a thing?

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>>16265823
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I was referring to the SSN-571 Nautilus, not the WWII vintage submarine.
I wouldn't doubt for a second that air conditioning was becoming standard for all USN submarines as the war was ramping up. I know a lot of German submarines didn't and it sucked balls. Crew compartments would freeze over while submerged in the north sea during winter, and got hot as balls in the indian ocean.

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>>16265852
No.

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>>16265860
We were only talking about WW2 ships.

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>>16265852
Man, the damage was really low. /jp/ is cool.

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>>16265824
>memepicture

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Why is 4-5 bullying me this month, 8 failures on last dance with the same comp I've used to clear it for months and months

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>>16265576
It's beginning to look more and more like the creations of a diversity hire.

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>>16264215
>>16264287
>We will no longer be able to visit best Shoukaku

How could they do this to us?

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>>16265912
She's shit.

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Do you do the F35 quest?

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>>16265912
If you bought the game you can visit her as many times as you want.

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>>16265912
You can still buy the piece of shit game even when shipment ends, there are plenty of people who sold the trash and can be easily acquired in the second hand market.

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Anyone used these plugins? How good are they?

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>>16265739
http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/article/04/0030/48/33/040030483390.html

True pure love.

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>>16265975
I just can't bring myself to like Warspite's design. It must be the crown and the chair rigging.

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What does a lady think about all day?

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>>16266045
About her lady part.

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>>16266045
That's not a lady.

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>>16265898
Who are you quoting?

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So you do Orel to get fuel huh? This is kinda neat.

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>>16266045
>Man I need a new gimmick

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>>16266057
t. Alberto Barbossa

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>>16266045
>Deidogu doesn't notice me
>my feet hurt
>Fuckign Warspite I should get a wheelchair

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>>16266045
Why settle for a fake when you can have the real deal?

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>>16265577
why does hoppo have mittens but no socks?

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>>16265393
Looking through these makes me think just how fleshed out the designs actually are. So much so that Ayaki ships look like they belong somewhere else entirely.

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>>16266076
I thought we just playing make believe, with a toodler.

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>>16266081
No clue.

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>>16265393
Wonder how much the shipping on those things cost. They're a fucking bible.

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>>16266093
https://exhentai.org/g/974740/dbdd20ac67/

EXPAND SEAPORT

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Game die for anyone else?

I was mid-sortie and I got catbombed. Refreshing didn't bring the game window up so I closed the tab and started the game up again. Now it's just a black window.

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>>16266197
No, still doing daily just fine.

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>>16266206
I closed the browser and now it's working again.

The fuck.

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>no horizontal mode
>none of the standard KCV plugins are compatible with KCVX
Such wasted potential. It has so many good things including colour coding, in-built quest tracking and an expedition plugin helping you tell if you'll succeed in that expedition, but it really lacks stuff that we take for granted in other KCV builds.

Though if you like v3 more than v4, hate BattleInfo with a passion and don't mind being stuck with vertical you could give it a shot.

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Man. I want more Yuu.

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>>16264972
The more you expect something to be a game-breaker, the shittier it's gonna be when Tanaka rolls it out. Jets taught me that lesson.

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>>16266258
Hey she will have stats but won't be able to use jets or have be an armored CV.
It's a tradeoff.

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>>16266258
People are expecting Shinano to be a gamebreaker too.

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>>16266258
The cranes are already the best carriers. Are you really that disappointed the gap didn't get widened to 2014 Kaga levels?

>>16266283
Only because of the interview that said she could stay as a Yamato class battleship. If her carrier form was shit, no one would bother. Assuming any of that holds any water anymore.

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>>16266294
I don't think having a third hotel would be gamebreaking.

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>>16266304
Having an armored super Kaga would.

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tfw I haven't sortied my hotels to an event map

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>>16266317
You're a real life IJN ttk or something?

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>>16255897
>>16256074
>>16256875
>>16256920
>>16264038
>>16264287
>>16265804
>Kancolle
>small c