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Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.

Previous thread: >>16234077

This thread is for the discussion and learning of Japanese with raw otaku media.
If you have no interest in otaku media we recommend heading over to /int/'s 日本語スレッド.
Please use sage. This isn't /a/ or /int/, you don't have to keep bumping the thread all the time for no reason.

Let's have a nice thread by reporting and ignoring off-topic posts.

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Reposting something interesting from the last thread.

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Is that Dragon Quest?

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DQV on PS2

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>> No.16252485

I love how I've spent almost every night for several years reading VNs, dedicating my life to them, and yet I can look at a chart like this and realise I've only read 9 VNs on it. There's so much to read, it's glorious.

>> No.16252519

Has it been updated? Can't remember Mareni being on it.

>> No.16252528 [DELETED] 

Has the users in the thread gone down since the switch?

I keep missing days in Anki because I get discouraged when learning new words. Maybe my retention is shitty but learning new words is hard. I due reviews first so I can concentrate on new words by themselves but it burns me out so fast. That I end up turning new words off for like a week. It's like I'm learning 20 new words a week. Is there anything I can do to help with this?

>> No.16252551

What's the best way to build up vocab? I can understand spoken Japanese decently, and can understand children's shows like Precure very well, but I can barely understand the news because of how limited my vocabulary is. The normal thing to do if I were learning Spanish or something would just be to read academic papers and newspapers and build a vocabulary, except I barely know any kanji and I just started anki a few months ago. What is the best way to get my vocabulary up to being able to understand a college lecture? Is there a website with complex Japanese for adults that also has furigana? NHK easy is great but the vocabulary is quite limited.

>> No.16252553

>What is the best way to get my vocabulary up to being able to understand a college lecture?
Do anki for a couple of years

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Okay whatever, that'll do. I guess I can't go to todai now but it'll happen eventually.

>> No.16252597

Via reading. You would know that you wasn't a fucking American.

>> No.16252601

if you*

>> No.16252604

If do you 30 words a day in anki for a year you will have done about 10k words. If you want to understand lecture material you will definitely want more than 10k and also focus some of your mining on that specific field (science words, etc)

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>severely misunderstands my question
>makes grammatical errors

>> No.16252615

I can't handle more than like 5 kanji a day though. How could you possibly keep 25 a day in your long term memory?

>> No.16252626 [DELETED] 

learn those kanji.

if you want to master a language, there are no shortcuts. you have to commit to the whole structure.

>> No.16252639

learn those kanji.

if you want to master a language, there are no shortcuts. you have to commit to learning the whole structure.

>> No.16252651

Vocab is pretty much a time thing, no way around it other than building your vocabulary day by day.

>> No.16252654

You aren't expected to commit them completely to long term memory the first time around. That's not how anki works. The more you review and forget, the better you eventually remember them. 20 new cards a day is pretty average if you want to aim for that.

>> No.16252658

h-hai shishoutachi

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>that's not how anki works

Interesting, I mean with my 5 a day, I can recognize them anywhere now and I've learned them pretty okay, but can you really learn if you are being bombarded with 100 cards a day? That sounds fucking hardcore.

>> No.16252684

20 is pretty average. If you do more than 20-30, your retention will go down but your overall ability to recognize words will go up. Like if you throw heaps of shit at a wall, some of it will stick and some won't. If you throw more, then more will stick, but more will not aswell. Kind of a weird analogy though.

>> No.16252691

>weird analogy

It serves its purpose, I'm convinced, I'll try 15 for a bit and see how that goes.

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hey lmao

>> No.16252820

Next thread: >>>/int/68534135

Previous thread: >>>/int/68534135

Every thread from now on: >>>/int/68534135

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しんぎ、 むけつにしてばんじゃく
ちから、 やまをぬき
つるぎ、 みずをわかつ
せいめい、 りきゅうにとどき
われら、 ともにてんをいだかず


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>> No.16253119

Why do Japanese people use romaji input over kana-input anyway? You'd think it'd be twice as fast to type kana only pressing one key instead of two, surely the time-saving benefits make it superior? Their keyboards have kana on them, why wouldn't they use them?

>> No.16253124

Turns out the CV structure of japanese is very much compatible with the "strokes of fingerpresses" seen with romaji keyboards. Kana input is reasonable, but the characters to press are more in number and less friendly in physical distribution, making it so that it's essentially the same thing. Most time spent typing is spent making sure they select the right word conversions anyway.

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「しんぎ、 むけつにしてばんじゃく
ちから、 やまをぬき
つるぎ、 みずをわかつ
せいめい、 りきゅうにとどき
われら、 ともにてんをいだかず」


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Reminder that if your post would be retarded in English, then it's still retarded in Japanese.

>> No.16254105

You really are an insufferable attention whore.
Please die.

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is Bukkake translated 顔射 into English?

>> No.16254596 [DELETED] 

Bukkake just means splashing or pouring. There's a regional dish called bukkake-udon which as far as I can tell is just pouring the broth on the noodles before eating and not something out of a bad AV

>> No.16254603

打っ掛け literally means splashing or pouring. There's a regional dish called bukkake-udon which as far as I can tell is just pouring the broth on the noodles before eating rather than something out of a bad AV.

By itself it's come to mean what it means.

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I cannot imagine the AV of this title
Because it may be extreme violent
i don't know
i got it from

>> No.16254647

Context: アルト is getting a wound wrapped.


What's "されるがままになっていた" mean? She let it be done to her?

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give you

>> No.16254659

Worth noting that, outisde Japan, bukkake almost always refers to a group of males ejaculating on a girl's face, whereas in Japan it can mean both that and "normal" facials.

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She had no choice but to be left at the mercy of someone else for theat treatment, IMO

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What the fuck is うんちして? Poop? Google gives me "Poochin."

>> No.16254706

Yes. うんち=うんこ.

>> No.16254714

What is して? "That is?"

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て-form of する.

>> No.16254725

する → して
The same thing as for instance 待つ → 待って. In other words, she's telling her to to take a shit.

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*for that treatment

されるがまま means "to have no choice but to be done to oneself by someone else"/他人の思うままにされる以外にない

a doom in which one has no choice but to be left at the mercy of someone else

I am always made to do whatever she wants

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in this case,
してね is a polite order or a request, in comparison with しなさい/しろ
うんちして(ね)=うんちをしてください/ うんちしてちょうだい
=please poo

(必ず) うんちしてね
please make sure to poo

Every Anon
Good Night

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anybody knows where to find the show Hajimete no otsukai beside youtube and dailymotion ? pretty sure i've seen all episode that were uploaded there

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unchishite wa?
unchi shite wa?

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>> No.16256339

Does someone have a hook code for フレラバ (HD version, not sure if it matters)? I can't find one

>> No.16256682

It was in the first link on google after searching "fureraba h-code".

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I saw that one but it didn't work

>> No.16256718

It worked for me 1.5 years ago. Maybe you downloaded a different version of the game?

>> No.16256719

Well as I said it's the HD version which wasn't even out 1.5 years ago. That's ITHVNR in the picture

>> No.16256728

Why not study harder, come back in another 3 months or so and read it without a hooker?

>> No.16256733

Oh. Well, your options are:
Read the old version of the game.
Read without a texthooker.
Read a different game.
Wait until someone finds an H-code, then read it.
Learn how to find H-codes, I found a guide once but it looked really hard.

Does the remake have new content or is it just an image patch?

>> No.16256777

Damn. Oh well, guess I'll play something else for now or downgrade if I get really desperate.
And according to vndb it's just a resolution upgrade.

>> No.16256783

You will never be welcome on /jp/.

>> No.16256816

If it's just a resolution upgrade I don't know how much it matters, I had no problem with the graphics in the version I read and the text (and the fantastic soundtrack) is the bulk of the work. Up to you though, there's plenty of other great VNs you can read instead.

>> No.16257276 [DELETED] 

>decide I will finally play a VN
>search vndb for ages begin super picky
>find one I want to play
>almost non existent download speed
Guess I'm not playing any VNs

>> No.16257315

Are you fuckwits not aware that the board has threads dedicated to visual novels or are you just that fucking arrogant?

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>> No.16257345

I learned to always start the download for my next VN a few days before I finish the last one so I don't have to sit around waiting with nothing to do.

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Or even better, download 20 VNs and read none of them like I do.

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Seems the account got nuked.

>> No.16258117

Are you fuckwits not aware that the site has a board dedicated to languages are are you just that fucking arrogant? >>>/int/

>> No.16258151

You realize Touhou is a video game right? >>>/v/

>> No.16258168

Wich grammar book do you recommend?

>> No.16258170

Dictionary of Japanese Grammar series

>> No.16258198

For what purpose? Learning from the start or just something to reference?

>> No.16258246

Just something to read for a better understanding of grammar, Tae kim falls short and the grammar reference is too unstructured.
Sounds good, I will check it out.

>> No.16258253

I'm glad you never read /jp/'s rules that specifically include Touhou as its primary topic.

This isn't surprising coming from the mexicans of /int/. Go back. >>>/int/68534135

>> No.16258264

Also if you see anything and can't find it in the grammar dictionary usually an internet search will get you what you want.

>> No.16258347

Reading よつばと was to easy and bored me.

はなひら gives me some troubles though, there are things that I can't seem to find out.
Can you help me out?

What does the たんだ mean or did I fuck it up entirely?

What exactly does the そう do here?

Being stuck on every second sentence is humiliating, considering it's supposed to be easy as fuck.

>> No.16258357

>What does the たんだ mean
are you serious
>What exactly does the そう do here?
probably X-seeming, no i didn't actually read your post

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>What exactly does the そう do here?
It's in tyler kim for sure. It means like seems like.
>seems happy/looks happy etc

>> No.16258386

Sorry senpai, that's what you get if you only grind anki and never read.

Thank you, I already thought it could be た+ んだ but couldn't find the meaning of た I feel retarded now.

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>> No.16258609

When you start reading, do you usually drop core and entirely concentrate on your mining deck?

>> No.16258612

I still do the reviews in my core deck but yes, only new cards in my mining deck.

>> No.16258664

How do you guys usually set up your mining decks?

I would like it to have core style, word on the front, kana + meaning + the sentence for context + audio on the back.

Can I set it up in a way that it does all of this with a button press? (so far it only imports word + meaning)

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>> No.16258676

Yeah, it's possible. Although you should skip the voice part, it's a bad crutch and TTS is not good.
Search "rikai firefox" in the /a/ archive and look out for a pastebin.

>> No.16258683

hot dog


>> No.16258687

Will do thank you.
Why is voice bad though? How do I learn the proper pronunciation then?

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Here, I did the same. My mining deck layout is basically stolen straight from Core.

>> No.16258729

If you mine the word you usually already have heard it from the source (VNs/anime). And even if not, it's not like most words need special pronunciation (nor would TTS capture this nuance).

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Thank you anon.
I see, thank you.

>> No.16258755

Oh, you're misunderstanding. The voicing in mining decks from Rikai auto-import is not from text-to-speech, it's from a database of example vocab lines spoken by actual Japanese people.

As above, there's no harm in having voice on the back of your cards and a lot of good.

>> No.16258759

How does the voicing work when it's a word that has multiple readings?

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shtte= し(サ変動詞連用形continuous form of irregular conjugation of the line of 'sa' )+て(格助詞case particle)
in this case, Japanese feel that words to continue after して are omitted.
the word omitted is ね,よ or ください
therefor, in the case of the pic http://i.4cdn.org/jp/1481647896616.jpg , して and してね have same meaning
ね is 終助詞sentence-ending particle
して, してね, してよ, してください are polite orders or requests, in comparison with しなさい/しろ

>> No.16258856

sorry typo

and te-form which you call = 連用形continuous form of verb + てcase particle

>> No.16258865

Why Japanese ...

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連用形 doesn't translate into western grammar terminology in a meaningful way, perhaps say connective form

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Import them in batches with epwing2anki

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>> No.16259031

In that situation I would call it conjunctive, or maybe something made-up like ”freestanding infinitive”. Continuous means a tense/mood, ”is Xing”.

>> No.16259037

Was messaging a Japanese person today and they described their english as ガバガバ英語.

What the fuck does gabagaba mean? Can't find it in any dictionaries.

>> No.16259050

sounds like they're saying they're not fluent, in a gabagaba way

>> No.16259059

>Can't find it in any dictionaries.
Do you not have rikaichan? I don't know if it helps though but it at least has an entry for this
>がばがば - over-sized; in large quantities
Not sure what ガバガバ英語 would be though

>> No.16259066

Use a J-J dictionary.

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>> No.16259111

why do you keep changing boards? reeee

is DoBJG better than tae kim?

>> No.16259113

connective form


>> No.16259154

>why do you keep changing boards? reeee

We never changed boards

the new int thread just got put up


some people just don't want to make the next thread so i end up having to wake up early in the morningg to do it

>> No.16259159

Well, the characters 連用形 describe the form itself well. The problem is there's no good translation of them. 連体形 implies adnominal, 連用形 may imply adverbial, but adverbial already means something very very different than 連用形, so it doesn't fit.

>> No.16259165

cybered in japanese for the first time last night

ask me anything

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She egged me into it, sort of. We were just talking about school then somehow it just ended up that way.

>> No.16259172

you are pedophile

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wtf she's 20

>> No.16259184

you're screwed

>> No.16259188

yes i was screwed, that's the entire point of this conversation

>> No.16259202

Also, it's analogous to western infinitives, but works differently on most levels, and ”infinitive” is a bad name even in english. I'm jealous of how mostly accurate japanese grammar terms are for japanese.

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kino is one suave 僕っ子

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Bernard BlochやSamuel Elmo Martinは、優れた言語学者だ


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Why yes, Akane is young.

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the original meaning of 茜 is the name of grass
艸 means grass
西 means a bamboo cage originally;
the direction which the sunshine of the sunlight creeping to, as if the water flows out of the bamboo cage, that is "west"

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若 meant a dancing woman as a shaman originally

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>Head is good person
>Person with good head

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「の」は、文節(phrase / clause of sentence)の中の主語Subjectを示します


○ 頭のいい人は、字も綺麗


○ 頭がいい人は、字も綺麗



○ 私がそこへ行きます


× 私のそこへ行きます


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「は」は、文全体の主語 the Subject of whole sentence を 示します

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Wait what, I thought this thread was /a/-exclusive since /jp/ needed no help on moons. What actually happened?

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>> No.16260023

Too bad the best girl speaks Chinese.

>> No.16260548

I stopped learning because I was in the hospital and lost the motivation to continue. I've got my motivation back. But it hurts so much that I forgot so much. I used to be able to read without a dictionary but now I can't.

How far back do I need to go? Do you think it'll be fine if I just read with a dictionary and not do anki cards?

>> No.16260558

Depends how long you were out of the game. A quick refresher course might be all you need. Or you might need to start all over again.

>> No.16260632

I think you'll be fine just reading.

>> No.16260690

It just creates one card per reading. If you want multiple readings you can make multiple cards, or manually put the alternate readings on your card.
I don't think it comes up often enough to be a problem, normally you just need the most common reading for each word and in any other case it'll have furigana.

>> No.16260840

Mods decided /a/ is too good for these threads and use /jp/ as a trashcan
I replied to you because I don't have my glasses and thought you posted a picture of a 2d girl smoking crack from a pipe.

>> No.16260922

Thanks. I'll give it my best shot.

>> No.16260928

For people who randomly stumbled on this DJT:

The real DJT thread is on /int/, the people here are some who stubbornly refuse to use the untranslated VN thread /jp/ already has, and keep using the DJT tag even though they only circlejerk about cartoons instead of discussing the learning of the language.

Just decided to post this since people keep stumbling on both threads and ask questions about the situation.

>> No.16261065

The /int/ thread is for normalfags who should be posting on reddit

>> No.16261307

Do people who read VNs skim a lot or am I just unusually slow for taking like 300 hours to read a "long" one?

>> No.16261330

Which one? 300 would be ok for Baldr Sky if you are a beginner, but if you mean for every VN then yeah that's extremely slow. I'm about 3 times slower than the native speed, so if a VN is 20h I usually take about 60-70h.

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>> No.16261452

I can't decide between TK and Genki so I'm going back and forth between the two. Tell me why what I'm doing is foolish.

>> No.16261465

You're focusing on "following correct process" when you should be focusing on learning, which is what a huge chunk of this thread boils down to. If there are two OK ways to do something mixing them isn't going to kill you.

>> No.16261472

It's not foolish, just fucking do it already.

>> No.16261528

It doesn't matter at all in the long-run but I'm not sure why you would want to spend more time reading grammar books when you could be reading Yotsuba.

>> No.16261547

Genki is a waste of time. Read through all TK. Advanced Topics is optional though. If you encounter grammar or something you don't understand look it up in dojg.

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TK is almost too concise. I'm not sure how much of this I'm going to retain. Things that feel very important get maybe a page plus an example sentence, and then it's on to the next topic. That's why I keep going back to Genki.

>> No.16261614

EGS is a good way to check how long natives take to read a VN, so you can compare your speed with theirs. Don't worry if you're a fair bit slower than them though, that's only to be expected.

>> No.16261618

You won't retain anything from a grammar guide in the first place. You have to look at real japanese.

>> No.16261641

Just keep going, when you don't understand something that means you've forgotten something. When you know that you've forgotten something, you will know what you've forgotten, and you will have to go over that lesson again. Do two/three lessons a day if you feel it is too concise. Do not go back to genki.

>> No.16261642

Oh boy I need to set it up when I got more time on my hands.

It's okay if I save the sentences with unknown words in a txt until I set this up am I right?

>> No.16261651

Just go over the lesson multiple times.
Ignore this guy >>16261618. You won't even make a lick of sense out of Yotsuba until you've finished the guide.

>> No.16261654

It doesn't take longer than 10 minutes to set up real-time import. There's another guide on the site's Anki Start-up Guide.

>> No.16261658

>Ignore this guy >>16261618. You won't even make a lick of sense out of Yotsuba until you've finished the guide.
If you actually read that guy's post you'll notice that he didn't say to read yotsubato, he said to "look at" real japanese.

>> No.16261673

When I set it up it was before we had all these handy guides and infographics, and it took me 3 hours of suffering, pain and swearing at my computer. You guys have it so easy nowadays.

>> No.16261681

If he can't read yotsuba how do you expect him to read real japanese?

>> No.16261684

Nobody expects him to read real japanese.

>> No.16261704

When I was beginning I put example sentences for each point in Anki and consequently almost never had to consult back to the grammar guide. Most stuff you can just hover over with Rikaisama to get reminded until that's no longer necessary.

Someone will now inform me that this isn't the one true correct way to learn Japanese though.

>> No.16261711

How dare you tell people to consume media instead of staying inside the safe bubble of their grammar guides for years!?

>> No.16261738

Didn't know there is a new guide, nice.

If you read the first half of tae kim 2 times you'll already know the basics.
If you feel overwhelmed just read 2-3 new pages a day and make sure you understand it, reread them on the next day + 2-3 new pages and so on.

You don't need to learn verb conjugations day one, but you should at least be able to recognize them or else you are fucked if you read 飲んだ think it's explanatory の or something like that.

>You won't even make a lick of sense out of Yotsuba until you've finished the guide.
Yotsuba has no difficult grammar though?

>> No.16261762

>Yotsuba has no difficult grammar though?
Not a real question.
And while I'm able to read some basic Japanese written politely or just "grammatically", I find Yotsuba pretty painful because of all the slurring. It gets in the way of recognizing words/stems and separating "words".
I'll never get the "read Yotsubato first" meme.
Unless, of course, you just read the first two volumes with the reading pack - those are pretty nice.

>> No.16261785

With djt coming from /a/, having watched 9001 hours of animu makes you used to the slurring, thus making yotsubato somewhat manageable.

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>> No.16261810

Yotsubato is a good manga that doesn't really have any "hard" words in it. Yotsuba is also the mascot of 4chan and what >>16261785 said

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If you want a break from Tae Kim, try Japanese the Manga Way. It doesn't cover quite as much ground but it does give you a taste of what it will be like when you actually start reading.

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>> No.16263235

Do they have to put this at the start of every fucking anime? It's not going to stop a single person from pirating their anime, it's not like they even charge anything to watch the anime on free-to-air TV channels anyway, and it annoys all their normal viewers just as much.

>> No.16263248

Tbh it's the same stuff as where they tell you to sit back from the TV and be in a light up room to stop seizures on every episode

>> No.16263261

And the "all persons appearing in this are fictitious and over the age of 18" crap too. Why can't they just let people enjoy the show? Do they hate fun or something?

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>> No.16263310

When did this turn from the Japanese language learning thread to the talk about whatever the fuck you want in Japanese thread?

>> No.16263323

The real DJT is on /int/ mate. These people are not DJT and have been told to stop using that name.

>> No.16263334

since i'm here it's djt even if there's two

two great men, splitting their ill fates up among eachother

>> No.16263336

At least stop numbering them for one, you're three "editions" behind the /int/ one, and the /int/ one is clearly canon. You guys are extended universe level, and are clearly not canon.

>> No.16263340

only a djt on /a/ would be canon
clearly we are just alternate universes much like the different routes of fate/stay night

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>> No.16263587

does it mean anything important if を is used there, rikai says 返事 is a する noun
more forceful reply?

>> No.16263673

Why does Japanese have so many weird rules?

Why the fuck does ha は change to wa, but it's the same symbol?

Are there any other weird rules like this?

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>> No.16263702

hey, shut up and help me

>> No.16263717

no, read your guide

>> No.16263797

Instead of thinking of them as "weird rules" and wondering why this is the case, it's a lot more efficient to simply accept them to be true and learn them. There's a lot of things you'll go "why the hell is this read this way?" and if you stop at each one, you'll just be wasting time.

>> No.16263824

My brain works with explanations. I can't fully grasp something unless it's explained fully.

>> No.16263833

You're not going to get very far. You can either accept them as immutable truth and move on or dive into linguistics and etymology to find the answers, in which case you'll never end up learning Japanese.

>> No.16263857

You seem to have grasped English well enough considering you won't be able to explain it's rules

>> No.16263876

When you flip a light switch, do you stop to consider the electronics and wiring behind the light coming on? When you post on 4chan, do you think about the php code behind the front-end UI? When you buy something from a store, do you analyse the economic development that lead to this product being produced, marketed, transported and sold? When you look up at the night sky, do you wonder why it is that if the universe is infinite, the sky isn't alight with the light of infinite stars from all ends of reality, given that light radiation doesn't fade over time?
No? Then stop saying you need full explanations for everything.

>> No.16263913

>When you flip a light switch, do you stop to consider the electronics and wiring behind the light coming on? When you post on 4chan, do you think about the php code behind the front-end UI? When you buy something from a store, do you analyse the economic development that lead to this product being produced, marketed, transported and sold? When you look up at the night sky, do you wonder why it is that if the universe is infinite, the sky isn't alight with the light of infinite stars from all ends of reality, given that light radiation doesn't fade over time?

Help me I have OCD and it's really really bad.

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Look guys I like to know everything about everything. Also I like my desk really neat. I'm so OCD about it XDDDD

Don't waste your time with that shit and just learn the language

>> No.16263945

that's not what ocd does

signed, someone with severe ocd

>> No.16263951

It's just how the language changed over time and with it pronunciation / simplification of sounds. Only in that specific format is it written as は and pronounced ワ. First result on google try harder next time. http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1027996105

>> No.16263977

Try Memrise anon. I swear to god highly underatred, you can login on an app or desktop and get started and its free. Its customizable as fuck.

I recommend JLPT N2 Vocab(it goes over from JLPT N5-JLPT N2), Core+ Japanese Vocabulary and JLPT N5 Readings, that also show the normal hiragana and then Kanji and test on both. N5-N4 is considered basic Japanese.. Trust me when i say this though the best places to learn Vocab is video games.

I recommend Ni No Kuni for the PS3 if you know at least basic stuff like conjugations, Nominalization which is going to be pretty common in Japanese language. Hopefully my advice is taken. Because its a great alternative to those who do not want to build their decks with Anki and want a simpler way to do things.

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「返事をした」 and 「返事した」 have the same meaning

「返事」noun +をcase particle++するverb」
is like "do a reply(noun )"

「返事するverb」 is like "reply(verb)"

>> No.16264043

>Its customizable as fuck
Not as customizable as anki

>> No.16264101

There's a lot of weird shit in the English language too.

Is it a man eating lion or a man eating lion?

Why can't I re-arrange SOV like Japanese?

Why can't I drop the subject?

But it seems like you've been living okay without questioning the language that you use.

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Is there a joke here? If so, please explain it.

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>> No.16264423

forget-the-year party / year-end party
year-end party ending party

>> No.16264529

Does anyone here use the Anki app for iphone? Is it easy use the 6k Core deck with it? I'd love to do reps on the train every day but I want to know if it works well before I sink $25 into it

>> No.16264532

lol why does it cost money
just use the webpage

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could anyone transcribe this image ?

>> No.16264567

Iwakura Komaki

>> No.16264577

Crap It's a doujin circle I'm trying to find this music i found recently


>> No.16264593

Still thank you anon You're great.

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I can customize how much i want to review or how many words i wish to learn in each session. Besides anon it has audio and video lessons in it.

Just get the memrise version. It has the Core 6k on there its just called +Core Japanese vocab. And its FREE. On top of that its easy as fuck when you use it. There is a pro version but it does not offer much at all unless you are really into it.

>> No.16264626

Memrise shilling is getting out of control

>> No.16264633

when do i switch to core on memrise?

i just completed Japanese 1, would i move on to japanese 2 or just go straight to core?

>> No.16264640

Do I get anything special if I order right now

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>Memrise schilling
>Proof i actually use Memrise and am logged in using it

If i was schilling Memrise i would not be using it like the pictures i am showing. Besides Anki is not the only answer to those of us who are not going to insert everything in a deck and find it to download. Memrise is crowd sourced. Use your head anon.

Basically it has all the core in it. All 6k words are on there and it goes from easy to hard as it progresses.

Nothing really i didint like Pro so i did not upgrade. Pro does not give much really just to relearn it in a certain pattern or so.

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Also to add on top of this they do have a JLPT N5-N2 course If anyone is interested. All the courses have a leaderboard as well.

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>Besides Anki is not the only answer to those of us who are not going to insert everything in a deck and find it to download

>not using both

barely have time for tae kim's guide with all these reps

>> No.16264785

But I'm already 2000 cards into Core 6k. Can I carry progress over from anki?

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>Not using both

Fair enough it was also recommended on /a/ in their Learning Japanese section because its free and its closer to Wanikani. If people like both i dont mind it but i kind of felt like Memrise should be recommended for those that might struggle in Anki or need something more simple.

>> No.16264795

Sadly i dont think you can. But the good news is though i always did hear that if you get close to 3.5k words learned you start to get really good at reading. It might be a tough decision to make but you can progress as much as you want on Memrise and have no lock out periods or anything like that.

>> No.16264863

>closer to Wanikani
This is not a good thing.

>those that might struggle in Anki or need something more simple
Memrise is literally the same thing but less efficient, customizable and it has flashy progress bars

>> No.16264869

>i always did hear that if you get close to 3.5k words learned you start to get really good at reading
No you start to get really good at reading after reading a lot.

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>> No.16264922

Why are you wasting so much time doing flashcards if you haven't even finished Tae Kim?

>> No.16264964

To avoid actually learning Japanese of course.

>> No.16265012

I leave you guys for a few months and now you're on an even lesser board
what the fuck

>> No.16265017

Clearly a change for the best.

>> No.16265027

Is it even worth seriously practicing listening with <10k vocabulary?

>> No.16265039

i'm progressing through tae kim but always feel like i'm doing tae kim incorrectly because it asks me to print practice sheets every excercise, and it hammers me with vocab that trying to remember hemorrhages me from learning the actual grammar

>> No.16265048

What do you mean by practicing? Just watch anime without subs.

>> No.16265058

You could probably understand simple stuff like K-On and Yuru Yuri fairly well with a vocabulary of 2000-3000. Even subbed anime is good practice, just make sure you're actually listening and not just reading the subs.
That's bullshit, just read through the guide, don't bother with exercises and leave vocab for later.

>> No.16265059

Atleast it's not /int/

>> No.16265075

My vocab in anki is at around 6k right now. I find it really hard to follow along with TV shows sometimes still. I would probably be alright with unsubbed anime though. May aswell watch some I guess

>> No.16265200

>well with a vocabulary of 2000-3000
An entirely meaningless statement.
Even 10,000 words isn't going to help if they aren't the words actually fucking used in the series.
This is why so much of the advice from beginners in these threads are bullshit: they're nothing shy of generic Microsoft online help copypasta, entirely lacking in context which does not help in the slightest in retards questions asked. Also doesn't help when most of the questions are equally as fucking vapid and meaningless.

You can't learn Japanese.

>> No.16265209

Do you start learning words first from politics or something?

>> No.16265223

t. beginner

>> No.16265225

The assumption here is that he's learning vocabulary from Core2k6k (in which case the first 2000 words are quite literally indispensable for any and everything), not from mining history books. 落ち着いてゆっくりしましょう

>> No.16265257

Does anyone know if ITHVNR runs fine in wine or is there anything like it for Linux?

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>> No.16265263

Old guide is down too. http://djt.neocities.org/
Even the raw manga guide is down. http://compellingcontent.neocities.org/
What's going on here?

>> No.16265274

It's just all neocities sites. I can access them through a proxy for whatever reason.

>> No.16265276

You thought moving DJT off of /a/ was the end of it?

No, they're pulling out all the stops to kill DJT.

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>> No.16265285

other neocities sites are working on my computer, it's only the DJT ones that are down

>> No.16265290

Oh, I guess it's just a subset. I checked another random site and it was dead: http://spriteclad.neocities.org/

This proxy lets you access the DJT site: https://webncsproxy15.appspot.com/djtguide.neocities.org

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>tfw downloaded the core deck before DJT guide went offline

talk about dodging a bullet

>> No.16265304

what country is that proxy from?

seems like some sort of Region-blocking is in effect here?

A region-blocking effort is no mistake. That would be an intentional act by someone.

>> No.16265347

Seems more like some of neocities regional servers took a hit

Relax, lad. It'll be back.

>> No.16265728

Working fine here (Aus).

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T. Memrise is less efficient because flashy progress bars.

Anki peasant.

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>Does not understand that core covers a lot of basic vocab used in Japan
>Does not even realize that in the English Language we learn a lot of words that are never used again.

Dat Edge tho.

>> No.16265897

Because you need to learn grammar without it you will not be able to grasp context.

>> No.16266039

Who are you quoting?

>> No.16266327

Does anyone have a big Anki deck full of only katakana words? I'm a beginner having trouble reading katakana words and I want to improve .

>> No.16266336

That's not how you improve. Just read novels and expose yourself to the language.

>> No.16266337

I've been playing a lot of Shadowverse, it's a card game with quips that play when you play cards and such. Would turning on Japanese voices with no subtitles be helpful if I don't know much Japanese already?

>> No.16266350

How is this a serious question you're asking? Obviously it's more helpful than having the game on English, and it sounds better than the awful dub to boot.

>> No.16266360

What I mean is would you say it would be any noticeable improvement to learning? I'd prefer to keep it in English just to understand what they say, but if it'll be a useful teaching tool I'll try.

>> No.16266374

Every bit helps. It won't turn you into a monster of comprehension, but no single thing will. Learning Japanese is about immersion, this means constantly and all the time interacting with it. There is really no reason to leave it in English since it's just dumb battle chants that have no harm if you mishear them.

>> No.16266392

First one is a year's end celebration - bounenkai, literally "meeting to forget about the year".

Then the second one is a boubounenkaikai, or a "meeting to forget about bounenkai".

Then the third one is a "meeting to forget about boubounenkaikai".

Basically, it plays on the concept of people wanting to keep on partying and finding new excuses. Here is a shitty music clip with the same concept, watch it fully as a token of your gratitude:

>> No.16266393

AJATT bitch
All Japanese All The Time

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Can 変態 by itself mean hentai like the porn meaning or is the kana version better if you want to convey the porn meaning? I understand it can also mean metamorphosis and is also short for 変態性欲 but I want to know if the porn meaning is usually reserved for ヘンタイ
I hope I'm making sense

>> No.16266423

"Hentai" is an English loan word with a different meaning from the Japanese word it's derived from. Just like Japanese has a bunch of katakana words that mean different things from the English equivalent.

That dub is the worst thing ever made, I can't believe people willingly listen to that garbage. It makes Shadowverse streams from non-Japanese streamers unwatchable.

>> No.16266426

Using "hentai" to refer to porn is a Western thing.

>> No.16266514

Is it weird learning a language when you're antisocial as fuck and just generally hate interacting with people?

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>> No.16266524

I do it solely to consume media.

>> No.16266538

omelette and bacon, my sexy imouto.

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>> No.16266550

I was wondering about the same fucking thing not so long ago.

What about the movie Hentai Kamen? Did they choose that name for the double meaning?

Kinda like the video game Akiba's Trip could be read as Akiba Strip? (the game is about undressing people against their will)

>> No.16266551

What Japanese forums and such do you guys browse? I don't have the time or patience to practice production so I just want to spend all my time watching japs chat shit and hope that it has the same effect

>> No.16266555

twitter, 2channel

>> No.16266556

変態 is like freak.

>> No.16266566

I used to chat with Japanese people on League of Legends but I haven't seen any in ages. I think they got their own server or something. There used to be japs everywhere in that game.

I got bored of playing it anyways.

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>> No.16266579

Im fluent in 2 languages and im too autistic to speak properly in either of them.

>> No.16266584

I know this is probably a terribly nooby question but how the fuck do you use 2channel

>> No.16266596

Why wouldn't you just read VNs instead? Higher quality and more enjoyable writing than anything you'll find on 2ch

>> No.16266599

>This is not a good thing.
It's not really a bad thing. The biggest problem with wanikani is that it charges money and slows your progress to get more money. If it was free it would not be a bad source.

>> No.16266601

3-4k is the point at which reading is no longer intolerable for most people due to excessive new vocab. It doesn't mean you're good at it, but it is a good landmark.

>> No.16266602

>If it was free it would not be a bad source.
If Wanikani was free it wouldn't exist in the first place.

>> No.16266603

I do but it seems like seeing real people having actual conversations would be more useful for production specifically

I don't need to improve just reading I can already do that

>> No.16266611

The only way to learn to produce is to practice producing. It doesn't matter if you're reading VN dialogue or 2ch posts, if you're not posting yourself it makes no difference.

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ヘーロー DJT ホーアイウー ツデイ?チャイム ツ イット ア ホットドッグ!ヤッミ!

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I made (with a script) a page that shows previews for the covers of epub/azw3 books in the CoR. Might be useful if you're browsing but not looking for anything specific.


The Mega link situation is still kind of a mess, but will probably be fixed later.

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>> No.16266659

This is wrong.

>> No.16266671

Woah this is pretty amazing. Too bad people seemingly have stopped uploading new azw, so much newer stuff (like Oregairu/Saekano) are missing

>> No.16266698

I think it's a joke like "anti-anti-missile-missile-missile" in English.
Party for forgetting the party for forgetting the party for forgetting.

>> No.16266745

When I started browsing 4chan years ago, I could barely understand English.
I lurked a lot and posted every now and then, before I even noticed it I became fluent in English.

I guess either way is fine if you enjoy it, if you don't like reading VNs you might learn faster by talking to actual people on 2chan.

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>> No.16267058

Guess this really did move here after the /int/ relocation. In any case, not really sure how this works, but could I ask you guys for some help with a couple of sentences? My moon is basically weeb level and would rather get called a faggot here first, before attempting it myself. Basically, I need to ask two questions on the official twitter of a show as messages, and have two more days before the last episode airs.

>> No.16267066

That's fine. まほいく?

>> No.16267091


Well alright then. And nah, the show with only a handful of fans, BBK. Need to ask about the soundtrack once for the threads, since so far only singles for both seasons were released and there is absolutely no news on the OST, despite being real damn good. And second, mostly for myself here, want to know if they'll consider stickers for Line eventually. In any case, tried to keep them both short and to the point:

"What are the odds of a standalone OST/Soundtrack getting released for BBK/BRNK? Also are there any plans for Line stickers?"

>> No.16267129

Oh. Yeah, haven't watched that one.
I would say something like:
"Are there any plans to release an OST for BBK? Also, what about LINE stickers?"

>> No.16267137

Also, from the way you worded your request, I thought you wanted us to correct your Japanese, rather than translate the sentences. Personally, I don't mind, but I know many other DJT anons dislike that kind of stuff, so please keep it in mind in the future.

>> No.16267140


That's even shorter, neat! It'll work perfectly, thanks a bunch, man. Let's hope they actually see and can bother to answer.

>> No.16267150


That's precisely why I was asking if it was an option, my apologies, but was a bit short on time so figured I'd better get called a fag in here for not knowing how the thread works first. If this didn't work, would've tried to wing it, but mind you I don't frequent the threads and only have weeb moon on my side. In any case, am still grateful for the help.

>> No.16267166

Sure, no problem. As I said I don't really mind, but most people here are all about the "give a man a fish" etc thing. Good luck either way!

>> No.16267174


Thanks. Again, appreciate the help.

>> No.16267220

I watched 7 seasons of Doctor Who non-stop, practically without getting out of the house. It helped so much.

>> No.16267242

did you guys get kicked off /a/? if so when?

>> No.16267246
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Cross posting this from /int/.


For those who want to run VN's with a text hooker on linux. Also, a tool to repair はなひら game archives (and games that use a similar format) so they can run under wine.

>> No.16267329

Yeah, it's been about 20 days.

>> No.16267340

yeah i havent been here in awhile

im also very, very behind in anki

>> No.16267404

It didn't move here, most DJT anons are still on /int/, this thread seems to simply be a copy of the VN thread with a different name. From what I heard, it's pretty much a safespace since they could use the other thread for what they're discussing.

>> No.16267410

Anon, I think you're retarded.

>> No.16267425

Just look at the replies/posters stat for both threads. The /int/ DJT has a higher count of individual posters for the amount of replies.

I also want to add that I think it would be great for DJT to only be one thread on /int/ once again, as both threads are pretty slow sometimes and we could all be discussing about language learning peacefully no matter the medium used. The thread was better received on /int/ as opposed to heavily rejected on /jp/ and not even functional if it weren't for the mods being more active on here than /int/.

For the sake of DJT, it should be all for one and one for all.

>> No.16267434

Have you even read the /int/ thread? It's absolutely full of JLPT spam, political shitposts, people unironically posting crap like "stfu nigger", normalfag cancer, people unironically shitting on /jp/, etc.

That is absolutely nothing like the /a/ thread was. Even at its worst, the /a/ thread was at least full of people telling normalfags and off-topic racist posters to fuck off. It was never this bad.

The /jp/ thread is much closer in content to what the /a/ thread was when not being flooded by failed college students.

Same with the VN thread. This thread is almost completely unrelated to the VN thread. You clearly have not actually even read the VN thread.

Lurk more or get the FUCK out of /jp/.

>> No.16267435

Why don't you stay there

>> No.16267448

>The /int/ DJT has a higher count of individual posters for the amount of replies.
I don't get it.

>> No.16267452

I like /jp/ better

>> No.16267455

it's funny, there was someone in the /int/ thread that says "have you looked at /jp/'s catalog, it's full of cancer"

>> No.16267468

What are you even doing here?

>> No.16267481

When using coutners like 台 and 枚 do you use 一つ etc? So you'd say: 一つ枚買いました or would it be 一枚買いました?

>> No.16267484

No, つ is a generic counter. It's 一枚, 一歩, 一匹 etc.

>> No.16267502

Ah okay. I haven't gotten around to reading many real-world texts yet (obviously since I'm asking a question like this). Do people tend to use つ in all situations are do they use the specific counters more often?

>> No.16267509

>Do people tend to use つ in all situations
No. That's why there are different counters in the first place.

>> No.16267513

I didn't know if it was an older thing that's being phased out or something. Good to know.

>> No.16267515

It really depends on how common the counter is, I think. Stuff like 本 is always used.

>> No.16267527

Also most of them have some different pronunciations. Nothing major usually, but you will still need to hear them to know. Stuff like
is いっぽん not いちほん

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>> No.16267577

Do you not realize /jp/ looks down on this? Don't claim to speak for /jp/ ever again, especially as a general user. You are not /jp/ and neither is this thread.

>> No.16267582

This isn't counter specific so much as just a general rule of Japanese pronunciation. Once you learn enough words you'll get to the point you can just see a new word like 仏神 and know it's ぶっしん and not ぶつしん.

>> No.16267589

Anon, I'm pretty sure the people you represent that migrated to /jp/ during general purges don't represent /jp/. I've been here since typemoon threads were normal here.

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>> No.16267735

To those reading raw manga/doujin here, is there an easy way to paste double pages together?

Fidgeting around with paint can be frustrating, especially when the resolution is high. How do you guys do it?

>> No.16267762

If you use kanjitomo you can view two pages side by side

>> No.16267769

With imagemagick, a fairly standard program on Linux distributions
>convert image1.jpg image2.jpg +append output.jpg
It also wouldn't be difficult to sort them in pairs of 2 if you want to stitch them together with all odds on one side and evens on the other.

>> No.16267879

this is the era of the great DJT sunder, this is how new countries formed.

>> No.16267886

We are just leaving the shitposters behind and making DJT great again

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>> No.16268808

what's the best place to acquire these?

>> No.16268811

rutracker, not joking

>> No.16268817

Nyaa should have quite a few of them.

>> No.16268920

Nyaa is easier to use than rutracker in my experience, mainly because it's all in English or Japanese rather than Russian, so you should only really use it if it happens to be something you can't find on nyaa.

>> No.16268936

Which file in the Anki directory contains all of my unique data so that I can restore my progress in the event of hard drive failure?

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>> No.16269019

Folder: Anki/____/backups.
File: backup-###.apkg

>> No.16269020


time to go home my /int/ brethren

>> No.16269025

Don't you mean >>>/int/68696574?

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Please get out of this board. It's like you can't even read plain English in /jp/'s banner.

>> No.16269462

Do not shitpost ``please''

>> No.16269469

It's not a shitpost. It's a legitimate request.

>> No.16269667

Looks awesome anon, can you help me to set this up like you did?

I really want these example sentences.

>> No.16269811

Anon already explained it was Epwing2Anki.
Everything you need to know is below:

>> No.16269832

Why is it called Daily Japanese Thread if it's not daily anymore?

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>> No.16269863

Do I understand this wrong, or does epwing2anki basically just convert a whole dictionary to an anki import file?
So basically not mining?

I just want example sentences per key press fuck.

>> No.16269896

You make a list of words you want to get sentences for.
Then you set up epwing to map to the fields of your note type in anki.
Then you run the program and it pulls example sentences from your dictionary of choice for each of the words you want to import
Then an import file is created. You import it and your cards are added

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Because trying to apply grammar concepts from other languages to japanese just doesn't fit a lot of the times. So you have to add a ton of extra rules to try and fix it.

Another problem is romaji. If you look at some sites/book trying to explain conjugating verbs, it's full of "drop these letters then add X, expect when the final letter is this, where you have to do that instead". If you look at the words in kana instead, you see that it's actually completely regular, and all those weird rules are just caused by the romanization.

>> No.16270821

Should we rename it?
and also drop the number

>> No.16270839

No point changing it

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>> No.16270937

Nyaa (remember to check collection torrents)
Clubbox for obscure shit or if you're desperate
Or you could buy (?!) something.

>> No.16270950

>drop the number

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Because you're supposed to study daily.
It's a thread about Daily Japanese, not a daily thread about Japanese.

>> No.16271321

Need some help with the subject for "脈動を繰り返し" in this sentence:


Is 「脈動を繰り返し」 referring to her ちんちん or her 心臓?

>> No.16271352

The subject of the second part is his 愛液 so I guess it's talking about his ちんこ.

>> No.16271371

Alright, thanks for clearing up my doubts.

>> No.16271409

The mod that moved this thread fucked everything up.

We just want to study Japanese

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Finished あしたのジョー in a week
Ippo is a much better boxing anime

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>> No.16271567

Is it worth using the epwing dictionaries in the CoR over the built in default one?

>> No.16271591

What are you reading?
I'm still reading イリヤの空, it's amazing. I've never read an LN so good it cuts into my VN reading time.

>> No.16271607

Are you good enough to easily understand dictionary definitions in Japanese yet? If so, definitely, but if you're not that good yet I think not because you'll end up spending more time in Anki.

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>> No.16271614

Is it hard?

>> No.16271640

It's a shitpost.

>> No.16271674

If you have to ask, everything is hard for you.

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>> No.16271701

It's really well written, which in turn means it's probably too complex for a beginner.
I'd recommend only reading VNs until you don't need a texthooker anymore anyway, just for convenience's sake.

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Still reading イブニクル
I think I'm a little over half way through, about to enter chapter 5 and I think it has 7 chapters in total but I still have a bunch of side quests and I assume there are more once I get closer to the end

Might have to put it on hold soon since the current season of anime is about to end so it's time to start marathoning through them

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>> No.16271764

>Might have to put it on hold soon since the current season of anime is about to end so it's time to start marathoning through them
There are only 2 shows worth watching anyway.

>> No.16271767

How long did it take you to reach that stage?

>> No.16271809

I'm still going to watch around 30 shows

>> No.16271905

You should do those side quests now/soon, you want to finish them before you end the game and the longer you wait the less appropriate they'll be for your level. They don't take long anyway. Also I recommend always emptying your love gauge asap, it reduces the likelihood of having to farm for it later.
You'll enjoy chapter 5, best chapter imo. Don't know how you're able to prioritise anime over it, when I read it I spend almost every waking moment playing the game.

Like 1.5 years

>> No.16271975

Yeah I got a guide now so I can go around doing the side quests, think most of them need to be done by chapter 6. Love gauge was filled since I had everyone already maxed out for that chapter
I don't like reading too much so I'm usually playing this for around 3 hours per day. Chapter 4 and some side quests took me about a week to play through so I'm expecting this to take almost a month to finish at this pace

I'll probably end up not playing for a week or two while I get through all the good anime this season

>> No.16272016

>I'll probably end up not playing for a week or two while I get through all the good anime this season
But Flip Flappers will only take a day or two to marathon

>> No.16272052

Oh, you're much more on top of things than I was then, I never finished a couple of home events because I left too many to the end. Also using a guide is fine for side stuff but avoid it for the main story, you want to work things out for yourself.
The great thing about gameplay VNs is even if you don't like reading too much, you get a nice balance between reading and combat that makes it engaging for everyone.

Not sure where you got that "or two" from.

>> No.16272055

You meant "LNs" right?

>> No.16272067

No? Why would you think that?
LNs are shit for learners, no visual or audio cues to help understanding. VNs are much better.

>> No.16272076

Oh I misread you I think, sorry. I thought you said "I'd recommend you only read VNs if you can do so without a texthooker anyway" which just seemed weird to me. You meant "reading VNs WITH a texthooker until you don't need the texthooker anymore".

>> No.16272085

Exactly. Texthookers are like the training wheels of Japanese, extremely useful to get started and you learn a lot from them. But eventually you have to drop them and start reading freely, like a native.

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Osaka is a interesting city if you are willing to accept anything? I don't get the portion

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>> No.16272533

It's more "Osaka is an interesting city if you're moved by its ability to accept anything".

>> No.16272548


she thought she couldent be seen calmed down and took a pic then??


>> No.16272577



egg riceで検索したら、チャーハンばっかりでてきましたわ


>> No.16272639


"Since I thought I couldn't be seen from the inside the store I took a picture then inside the store appeared completely visible like those TV joke things." ?

I don't get the 店巡り好き物.

>> No.16272650


probably 者 not 物、 referring to people like herself. its a blog written buy some woman that likes frequenting old shops

>> No.16272671

Yeah, still not entirely sure I understand what she tried to convey.

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>> No.16272721

Being seen when you try to take a covert picture is a frequent subject of observational humor [あるあるネタ] among people who tour shops.

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>yfw you realized what all the names in dbz mean

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>people who tour shops
That's it, I just couldn't make 店巡り好き者 click in my head.

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>> No.16273280

int thread is back up you sleepless fucks


>> No.16273285

Fuck off back there then without posting here.

>> No.16273291

posters like you are the reason djt is split in the first place

just sayin'

>> No.16273293

there is literally nothing wrong or weird with having a split

>> No.16273294

That's a positive thing, no one right in their mind would interact with /int/ posters.

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>right in their mind
>literal safehaven for cartoon pedophiles


>> No.16273303

You have to go back

>> No.16273308

Thanks for proving us right by posting your epic greentexts and your epic imgur image.

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>> No.16273314

Good fucking god you belong on /int/, why are you still here?

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>> No.16273324

Nuance difference between 憐憫 and 不憫?Don't they both just mean pity?

>> No.16273333

use a real dictionary

>> No.16273342

>insult int poster
>they insult back

>> No.16273348

Where do you think you are? Close the thread and stop posting. You don't belong here. Also
>Who are you quoting?

>> No.16273351

The way of using of them are different.
In the case of 憐憫, that can be used for example 憐憫の情.
In the case of 不憫, that can be used for example 彼は不憫だ.

不憫 is an adjective verb(na-adjective).
憐憫 can be used as only 憐憫の probably.

>> No.16273357

>want to type 今日
>instead of typing きょう type いま にち
who /mischief/ here?

>> No.16273360

きょう?! no... いまび!!!

>> No.16273361

Proposing the following revision to the OP for future threads:

>Are there two threads for DJT?

*Yes, there are two threads for /DJT/ .The /int/ thread is for learning japanese for the purpose of japanese integration or culture. For people who are only learning japanese for anime, visual novels, or otherwise, there is a seperate thread on /jp/. Please choose the thread that best suits your needs


vote on revision proposal here

>> No.16273362

of course this would be reversed or rephrased for however you jp guys are using your thread. we can stop the shitposting and arguments and just help people find the right general that suits them

>> No.16273367

This is redundant since /jp/ is for otaku culture by default.

>> No.16273369

Go away.

>> No.16273372

The current OP is fine. Only a retard would get confused and shitpost in here.

>> No.16273423

If you are a normie wanting to learn Japanese to get a job there: >>>/int/djt.

>> No.16273455

The fuck is this shit

>> No.16273465

Current OP is already good, your change is bad and unneeded, sorry.

>> No.16273467

The only needed modification to >>16252292 would be :

>If you have no interest in otaku media we recommend heading over to /int/'s DJT or 日本語スレッド.

instead of the current

>If you have no interest in otaku media we recommend heading over to /int/'s 日本語スレッド.

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>> No.16273515

Haven't been here in ages, when and why did DJT move from /a/?

>> No.16273518

got moved to /int/, some people who actually care about japanese media got fed up with /int/ and started posting on /jp/, lo and behold the thread was getting cleaned instead of deleted unlike before, so now there are two DJTs.

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For someone that wants to learn Japanese for reading manga, is worth learning the readings too?

>> No.16273669

Well you can't read without them. If you mean whether you have to learn all readings for every single kanji, then no. The recommended method to learn is to memorize vocabulary, you'll eventually pick up the readings by context.

>> No.16273671

Biased journalism right here.
There is no particular reason /jp/ suddenly accepted us here after weeks of deletion, it just happened and the local userbase was adamant against our stay. Theoretically /int/ is the staff-approved location, /jp/ is the staff-tolerated location.

Yes, since words can be written in kana instead.
Besides, why half-ass your learning? I find listening is the best way to really retain learned grammar/sentence structure.

>> No.16273680

>Biased journalism right here.
>There is no particular reason /jp/ suddenly accepted us here after weeks of deletion
I never said there was.

>> No.16273689


I'll start learning the readings too, thanks.

>> No.16273698

>Biased journalism right here.
Can't name my source but they are letting us sort this through, there is no "official staff-approved" location.

>> No.16274164

>Can't name my source
What other "source" could there be other than staff members themselves? Please cut the bullshit and explain.

>> No.16274248

Where can I get the azw3 version of キノの旅?

>> No.16274251

In that case, we choose /a/.

>> No.16274386

Use Calibre to convert the epub in the CoR.

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>> No.16274569

Image limit is irrelevant to this thread.

>> No.16274581

This entire thing is irrelevent to this thread and don't go pretending you know the circumstances behind that post. Get the fuck out back to /int/

>> No.16274594

I was referring to the
>You don't have to wait until the thread has fallen off the last page before starting a new thread.
All the other generals I browse on /jp/ will usually make a new thread when the old one hits page 10.

>> No.16274648

Who cares what other threads do? There's nothing to be gained from making new threads prematurely.

>> No.16274669

We have always waited for it to drop off before making a new one. It's not like it's a big problem if there's no thread for a couple of hours

>> No.16274752

or making the thread at all

>> No.16274873

You're cherry picking the line you want to hear. Read the entire post, because he's talking specifically about the image limit.

>> No.16275036

Anyone have a torrent/mega of "Japanese, the Spoken Language"?

>> No.16275269

No one's scanned it.

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/jp/ DJT is just an autistic minority, the /int/ thread is the real deal guys, I swear!

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>> No.16275440

Don't act like this DJT isn't slow as fuck too. Also, a lot of people in this thread is criticizing the presence of DJT on /jp/.

Simple facts, on /int/ it's possible to talk about language through different mediums, on here it has to stay related to cartoons. The /int/ thread is certainly more inclusive than here, and the split that the stubborn /jp/ squatters have created is truly killing what DJT has grown to be in the past years.

This is simply a copy of untranslated VNs on auto-sage. Absolutely ridiculous.

>> No.16275447

Ok, now go away.

>> No.16275488

>Simple facts, on /int/ it's possible to talk about language through different mediums, on here it has to stay related to cartoons. The /int/ thread is certainly more inclusive than here, and the split that the stubborn /jp/ squatters have created is truly killing what DJT has grown to be in the past years.
Don't be dishonest.

>> No.16275490

How do the peasant fish address the king saury?


>> No.16275527

>Also, a lot of people in this thread is criticizing the presence of DJT on /jp/.
Yeah, it might look like that when you are constantly posting about it

Also, this thread is for all otaku related things in Japanese, just no normalfaggotry, that's for /int/

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That picture isn't helping you, do you even proportion?
If /int/ had reached the same amount of posts as this thread (529 as of posting), it would have meant 174 different posters, whereas this thread has 119.

That is 46% more users, and you gotta account for the several threads that were created and maintained throughout the week, not just the last one, since this one in /jp/ has been going on for several days already.

>> No.16275562

The point, if it wasn't clear enough, is that you're incapable of keeping your shitty thread alive. In fact, the person who's been creating them (it's the same guy) even said he wakes up in the middle of the night to make them because no one else bothers to.

>> No.16275579


Damn, seriously? I find that hard to believe since there are a few schools out there that use it as their primary text. God knows I've found far more obscure things before...

>> No.16275590

Not him but I don't think that has anything to do with the thread but rather the board. We've been on autosage I think for at least 24 hours now and the thread is still alive. /jp/ is just a lot slower.
Also please don't fight between the two, there is no need. We didn't want a Japanese thread on /jp/ so that we could feel superior or whatever. We have what we want, so just let anyone who wants to do things on another board have their peace.

>> No.16275593

Why so divisive, my Vaishya brother?
You seem to be under the impression I should pick either, when I am very well able to reap fruit from both worlds.

>> No.16275599

Back when DJT was on /a/, oftentimes there would be no thread up because the previous one had died and nobody bothered to make a new one. Was that /a/'s DJT not being able to keep the "thread alive"? From that logic, then you are someone who completely approves of the removal of DJT from /a/?

Don't know why you present yourself as a defender and standard-bearer of DJT when you seem to not give a fuck about it and only looking out for your best interests.

>> No.16275625

i think the thread fits better on /jp/. other languages are discussed on /int/ because theres no specific spanish board or italy board etc.

>> No.16275655

DJT is already loathed by a lot of boards on 4chan, and your special snowflake, safe-space way to describe where DJT should be (a place different from every other language thread on 4chan) certainly doesn't help our cause.

>> No.16275678

and that fact shows me how quickly most people on 4chan are ready to dispense logic and just go with their gut reactions to things just to make a point.
I don't see how it came to be that
>DJT is already loathed by a lot of boards on 4chan
without about 1000 other general threads being even more globally loathed. DJT lacked most of the cancer attributed to generals in the first place.

I still maintain that DJT became such an outcase simply because it was being used as an example on /a/ of expelling generals. The argument about DJT basically _became_ the argument over generals.

>> No.16275695

I don't remember any mods coming out and saying "DJT was such shit that we shall moderate generals more severely". DJT has been a language learning thread for a while, and its rightful place was on /int/. I don't see the mods as being out of line for making such a logical move.

>> No.16275699

>/int/ thread dies
>suddenly all this shitposting appears
I think we all know who the problem is

>> No.16275701

If you want to be on /int/, go there.
If you want to be on /jp/, stay here.
Stop making all these meta shitposts.

>> No.16275710

The /a/ threads always hit bump limit, so that's not it. The /int/ threads just don't generate enough interest because they don't belong.
>We have what we want, so just let anyone who wants to do things on another board have their peace.
I agree, which is why I don't go to the /int/ thread and post about how this is the "real DJT" and people should stop using that one. This thread on the other hand is full of idiots like >>16260928, >>16263323, >>16263336, >>16267404 who only come here to shitpost.

See above, also it is precisely because I care about DJT that I want to keep it free of trash like 3DPD blogging, /r9k/ crosslinking, and country banter, among other such things that are apparently tolerated in the /int/ thread.

>> No.16275711

I was just talking about the users of 4chan, not mods. As was the comment I responded to.

>> No.16275724

It started with one of your guys (see >>16275304 ), stop calling /int/'s DJT normies and shitposters when it has as many as you guys do.

>> No.16275726

>what is falseflagging

>> No.16275729

He posted it here, so why do you care?

>> No.16275732

Are you shitting? You have at least 3 regular posters (you can count them thanks to the flags) on every /int/ thread saying that the real DJT is on /jp/.

Fuck off, you're as cancerous as the shitposters on the /int/ DJT.

>> No.16275735

He isn't my guy. I'm saying this to both threads. Go to whichever thread you want and stay there. Stop crosslinking to the other thread. Stop complaining about the other thread. Stop talking about the other thread.

I'm on both threads because I like both threads. I just want people to stop shitposting in both of them.

>> No.16275736

>shitpost on /int/ DJT
>shitpost on /jp/ DJT
>obviously a falseflagger

Wow you're either 12 or just trolling at this point.

>> No.16275739

Who are you quoting?

>> No.16275744

Not him, but you can't possibly support pointless jabs like that >>16275304
What do you think that's ever going to accomplish other than turning the thread into this metaposting crap we're doing right now?

The answer isn't to say one side can be dicks to another, but only in their own threads or whatever. If you want to have a good thread here without fighting then the answer is simply to stop doing it altogether.

I already see where this is going. You're all just going to continue to make each other enemies more and more and it's not going to accomplish anything but possibly get DJT deleted again. Just stop fighting. I'm not saying we have to get along either, just that we're separate threads now. Who cares what the other is doing. Let them be.

>> No.16275750

If you didn't get triggered by it, nobody would probably have even replied to it. But you just had to get your panties in a twist because he was mocking your "home thread"

>> No.16275751

Yeah, it comes from your thread being on this board. Fuck off.

If you want to be on /jp/, too bad go the fuck to /int/.

>> No.16275752

People always tell you to do core until you hit 2-3k words, then just to start reading and mining.

That's what I did 2500 words in, I started reading and mining, but there is one thing that is bothering me.
Many if not most words I want to import fail to do so cause there is a duplicate in core.

Kinda makes me want to finish core first to be honest, especially since it's rather basic shit like "uniform" and such.

About reading, is it normal that I don't really enjoy it at all?
I'm so slow and have to look up a lot, while I don't feel like doing any progress.

I didn't read that much yet, first yotsubato and a bit of hanahira.

>> No.16275755

No more metaposts from now on!

>> No.16275760

You don't import them into core, you make a separate deck you dingus.

>> No.16275762

He probably is the shitter who posted that mate.

>> No.16275764

Are you a 4chan moderator?

>> No.16275773

This is my "home thread" anon. I haven't even once set foot on the /int/ DJT.

Just because someone is telling you you're acting poorly doesn't mean they're not on your side. You're not helping our side of the argument by saying it's OK for us to sit here and jerk each other off about how much we think our thread is better.

Just fucking let it go. You don't get /int/DJT to leave us alone by telling them "yeah we insulted you, what are you gonna do about it lol" you get them to leave by saying we don't care, and even if that means telling our own to shut up when they start being dicks to /int/DJT because that's just going to bring in more.

>> No.16275777 [DELETED] 

If trips, metaposting is no longer allowed on /jp/DJT.

>> No.16275779

>first yotsubato and a bit of hanahira
Well maybe you shouldn't read garbage then. You fight the slowness by reading something that you are actually interested in and feel compelled to continue.

>> No.16275792

o shit

>> No.16275793

I'm aware of that, in fact I'm using a seperate deck, could it be that it fails cause I use the core card layout and stuff for my mining deck?

Well I started cause they are supposed to be so piss easy, guess I should find something that is easy and interesting.

>> No.16275828

That's exactly why, you dingus. Make a copy of it if you wanna reuse the layout and you shouldn't have problems.

>> No.16275845

today was my second day with anki, the process of learning vocab actually feels great even though its mostly how to count things or days. it doesnt feel like a boring grind.
However, i havent started with tae kim yet. Should I? or should i wait until i have a larger vocab?

>> No.16275857

Yes you start with TK day 1.

>> No.16275860

There's no point in waiting, it's not like you need to (or even likely will) learn all the vocab tae kim uses before reading it.
Personally I think it's best to learn grammar as soon as possible. You can do both at the same time if you want.

>> No.16275863

Yes, you should start and do it alongside anki core vocab. Don't worry too much about the vocab tae kim introduces, they're really common stuff that you'll run into via core eventually.

>> No.16275868

thank you anon

>> No.16275876

thank you too <3

>> No.16275887

Not enjoying Yotsubato is definitely not normal. What don't you like about it? She's so cute and innocent and fun.

>> No.16275889

the fuck are you going on about? im saying that /jp/ the board specifically about japanese shit is a better place to discuss the japanese language than the general international board

its like posting about pokemon on /v/ instead of /vp/

>> No.16275902

I am reading yotsubato right now at 2.5k words and mining only about 10 words per chapter, that doesn't seem so slow to me. Did you study your grammar properly and watch plenty of anime?

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I'm having trouble with this part. Is it "no matter how tedious/boring it feels, without love, there are no flowers"? (as in, love is what gives meaning to human life)

>> No.16275943

That's because you're using the same card type. It needs to be different. Decks aren't what contain cards, it's the card type which has them.

Browse anki's browser for more than a few minutes to understand how it works.

>> No.16275948

Your interpretation seems correct to me. It's hard to translate these poetic lines, but you have the general idea.

>> No.16275954

What I mean is you shouldn't have duplicates and you should re-mine core words given you see them as you read. Core definitions suck dick anyway, throw that trash away and mine everything you can find, even things you've already seen before.

>> No.16275961

Sweet, thanks.

>> No.16275977

The definitions are dumb but the audio is quite helpful. It'd be nice if there was an easy way to port it all over

>> No.16275978

nigga youre some next kind of retarded

>> No.16275980

When you mine you're supposed to have audio too.

If you mean the sentences, they are useless and a waste of time given you've studied past N5 grammar.

>> No.16275987

Source please?

>> No.16275988

It has it's moments, it's just that my reading is so slow that I can't really enjoy it that much, especially when I already see what kind of joke is coming but I'm still stuck trying to figure out what kind of slang they are using.

Didn't watch anime in quite a while cause I lack the time, did study grammar but need practice.


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>> No.16275994

It's easily fixable though, just go to where you've mine words so far, select them all and copy them into another card type.

Make sure the fields match etc and it should be no problem.

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>> No.16276008

In that case, it's probably not that you don't like Yotsuba/Hanahira, it's just you don't like reading slowly and looking stuff up all the time. So there's probably no need to switch texts, since no matter what you read you'll have that problem.
The best thing might be to just read stuff with a texthooker, so looking up stuff doesn't take so long.

>> No.16276087

I felt the same way, it was mostly painful even though Yotsuba is objectively great. Now at an intermediate level I enjoy reading in Japanese even when the content is objectively bad. It's just so satisfying.

>> No.16276101

>Now at an intermediate level I enjoy reading in Japanese even when the content is objectively bad. It's just so satisfying.
Well something to look foward to I guess.

Do you remember at what point it became enjoyable, like how long or how much did you read until you could read at a reasonable pace.

>> No.16276111

Honestly I prefer DJT this way because it attracts less accidental posters.

>> No.16276122

All of Yotsuba and like half of Flyable Heart, Of course I was still shit and needed a texthooker, but it feels good because there's long sections of text you can breeze through.

>> No.16276166

>/jp/ is now forced to tolerate djt, yet another general


The tears must've been hilarious when the decision was made, too bad I missed it

>> No.16276176

As long as you read every day you'll reach that level eventually. I personally don't think slice & life are necessarily the way to go though, prioritize what motivates and interests you over "what looks easy".

What made me progress the most in the end were intermediate to advanced materials rather than the said easy things. I like slice & life but there's nothing really entrancing in them compared to plot driven stuff.

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I'll agree about SoL manga where there's no overarching plot, but with your high school romance VNs you do get the development of the relationship and sex/love with the girls to look forward to, so they can be just as compelling as plot stuff.

>> No.16276234

I can imagine this; my comment was mostly referring to manga like Yotsubato, not moeges and the likes.

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>> No.16276409

I approve

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This is my interpretation;
The loneliness is a hometown of the people.
The love is a flower of the lives.
We have nothing but the love as the flower in our life even if it is boring


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in our lives

>> No.16276755

>I like slice & life but there's nothing really entrancing in them compared to plot driven stuff.
Problem with plot driven stuff is if you misunderstand a line it can completely throw off the entire story. Need to get good for that sort of pressure.

>> No.16276791

I've never had this happen, if a line is that important it usually becomes obvious from context if you've misunderstood it.
The main reason for avoiding plot driven stuff as a beginner is a lot of it uses complex sci-fi/fantasy vocab.

>> No.16276829

If you have your grammar down it shouldn't happen, unless you're reading some really advanced thing written by some someone who has a particular writing style... these sorts of things typically don't appear much unless you're purposely picking something really advanced.

As long as you got your grammar is down you simply rikai what you don't get, and if rikai doesn't help you use google.jp. You rarely ever need more than this

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get OUT of my board

>> No.16277038

>There are only 2 shows worth watching anyway.
Which ones ?

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Vivid Strike and Shoushin Shoujo Matoi, of course

>> No.16277051

The only thing I even watched this season was Udon no Kuni. Everything else was just too fucking dull, and I'm a stickler for comfy country and child rearing. It wasn't even a good show, it was just the only one that met the base average required.

>> No.16277052

There are more than two.

Fune wo Amu
Flip Flappers
Hibike S2
Yuri on Ice
Girlish Number

If you want fun sport anime :
Keijo + Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume

Also you should still be watching the funniest anime made this past decade which is Saiki Kusuo no psy-nan.

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