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1609417 No.1609417 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /jp/

Do you think Japan is returning back to the sakoku era, where all foreigners were banned from japan?

It seems to me that they are, because within the last year:
- all foreigners now need to get fingerprinted when entering japan
- you now need to be a resident of japan in order to get a cellphone, this has never been the case before
- mixi, japan's largest social network, now bans essentially all non-japanese or people living overseas (even if they are japanese, lol) from joining
- many japanese websites are now blocking foreign IPs and you need a proxy to access them
- the rising crimerate in japan is being blamed on foreigners more and more, even though the # of crimes vs foreigner population in japan is far smaller compared to the japanese themselves.
- their new prime minister is known for his very anti-foreigner and racist comments
- other shit I can't think of off the top of my head right now

y/n?

>> No.1609426

Sounds awesome to me.

>> No.1609429

Japan is xenophobic? Holy shit.

>> No.1609431

>many japanese websites are now blocking foreign IPs and you need a proxy to access them

This is true for me.

>> No.1609433

>>1609417
I think Japan is going to turn into a shittier country than it already is thanks to all the things it's fucking itself up with in this age, just like almost every other country in the world.

The world is in decline. There are many reasons why.

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>> No.1609444

Is athens the new 24/7-here tripfriend? Every time I open 4chan I can see him on the front page

It makes me so sad he's not ``Anonymous of''

>> No.1609455

>>1609175
No, they have requested the F-22 many times, and the US defense dept. has turned them down every time.

I say we DON'T give them the f-22. they didn't spend any of the ~$60 billion to develop the damn thing, and they want a free ride? they can fuck off and develop their own super fighter.

All the other countries that are getting the f-35 should DIAF as well. Especially austrailia, they are all pissy about getting the f-35 instead of the f-22. I bet ausfags couldn't even develop the wright-brother's plane now.

>> No.1609461

>>1609444
I used to be my russian chum, but I changed it, it's gone through many iterations.

>> No.1609465

I got JSDFrolled

>> No.1609467

>>1609455
How the fuck does a country with 20 million people even posture at being relevant enough to NEED the f-22?

>> No.1609469

>>1609444
I think he was posting as anon for a while and stopped.

>> No.1609472

>>1609444
Why is everyone apeshit for athens?

Everyone loves a misogynist, I guess...

>> No.1609494

>>1609467
i had two threads open and posted in the wrong one

>> No.1609504

>>1609158
You shouldn't have deleted your post

>> No.1609507

>>1609472
Don't be jealous, Alabama. You're still my favorite...

>> No.1609524

>>1609472
>>Why is everyone apeshit for athens?
Because everyone is tsundere for him. Except me.

>> No.1609559

>>1609524
I think you're the most tsundere for athens out of everyone on /jp/

>> No.1609580

It's easy to confuse Tsun hate with real hate. But you should try it.

sage

>> No.1609594

i give it 5 years until cavity searches are required for all gaijin entering japan

>> No.1609672

imagine how xenophobic america would be if they got a-bombed twice and had foreign military bases all over their land.

it could be worse

>> No.1609679

>>1609417
The mixi thing is because people like YOU make accounts there only disturb the atmosphere with your second rate Japanese skills and horrible humor.

I'd probably ban every single one of you in an Arabic internet community.

>> No.1609680

The UK government is putting in a proposal where you need a passport as proof of identification to purchase a mobile phone

I guess the internet stuff could be because of trolling by foreigners.

Practically everywhere blames crime on foreigners, we do in the UK at least

... So face it, it's not just japan

>> No.1609684

>Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo
>athens !SysNpnp3nU
>Remilia Scarlet !!0l42/w//XuF

not enough fields exist

sage

>> No.1609710

>>1609684

What's wrong? Too tripfag for you?

>> No.1609731

This makes me depressed.

>> No.1609809

It's not just Japan that's xenophobic, it's most of the world, but some shit about Japan I've read still makes me rage pretty hard (as hard as you can rage about a country that's 6000 miles away).

- There are some institution where foreigners are outright banned, because it is believed that all foreigners have AIDS. Yep, that's right: AIDS is un-Japanese and therefore the only ones carrying it must be foreigners.
- Some hotels and shops don't service foreigners anymore; and they put up bullshit signs like that. Kinda reminds me of the days of slavery, when blacks were considered 2nd rate people and treated as such. Japan is pretty much doing the same, you are dirty niggers to them.

>> No.1609834

It's pretty much the opposite in Sweden. Being the least upset over foreigners is shunned by the government and media.

This is mostly due to the usually Socialist governments knowing that immigrants are surefire Socialist voters (not biting the hand that feeds them). And most journalists love pecking on the smallest bit of discrimination while dreaming of the red revolution that slowly edges farther away.

The average Joe is just tired of the sloppy integration efforts.

>> No.1609853

Not like I'd care, my filthy gaijin money only goes to luxurious establishments, no second rate jap will get my cash.

>> No.1609855

>>1609834
Sweden is bitch-made

>> No.1609865

>>where all foreigners were banned from japan?

It only takes a few people to ruin it for everyone.

I wouldn't blame them at all for doing it, you get a bunch of self righteous losers with their entitlement mentality (aka americans) who come in and expect everyone to cater to their needs or they think they are somehow special because they are 'guests' in another country.

>> No.1609871

>>1609834
This is so true, if you say anything negative about immigration or foreigners in Sweden you're labeled a racist.

>> No.1609881

Only a matter of time until the UN and the Human Rights Council intervenes.

Not that that will actually do anything, but it's a start. Sort of. Maybe.

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my filthy gaijin money only goes to AKB48, no second rate jap will get my cash.

>> No.1609916

>>1609834
sweden needs to double/triple our population at least, so add on some more immigrants, but yeah our "integration" politics is laughable, just like most of our other policies

op image is silly tho, kick them out after they act inapropriate, dont deny them access~

>> No.1609922

>>1609881

Right, the UN will tell the Japs about their "concern" and "advise" them to change their course of action, maybe even "reminding" them why it would be beneficial.
The Japs will then smile, nod, apologize and agree wholeheartedly to everything that has been said only to disregard it all together.
Yay for the UN

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If you had people fantasizing over your country like all the narutards, you'd want to never hear from them too.
Personally, I don't blame them.

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>>If you had people fantasizing over your country


Lol wut?

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>>1609809

>> No.1609956

>>1609930

Except that the Japanese know so shamefully little about anything outside of their own country, let alone Asia, that I don't think they even know their Anime has such a fanbase in countries like America.

Most of their xenophobia comes from severe lack of knowledge, general misconceptions and prejudices as well as first hand experiences of foreigners misbehaving. I don't think they know much, or care much for that matter, about what we see as weeaboos or outakus.

>> No.1609963

Japan thinks westerners smell

And they're right. I was in Japan for a few months, and one thing I noticed is most people didn't smell of anything

Here, people either smell of cleaning products, perfume, aftershave or sweat. Either way, it's noticeable on most people

In japan most people smell like nothing at all
nothing at all
nothing at all

>> No.1609972

>>1609963

Stupid sexy Japanese.

>> No.1609978

This is why I torrent, fuck if those asshats are getting any of my money.

>> No.1609990

>>1609972
no they are still an extremely unattractive people, they just dont smell

>> No.1609992

David Icke believes that Japs (and all of the mongoloid races) were an alien interbreeding experiment

essentially, their ancestors are aliens

may explain their
-eyes
-height
-viciousness
-godlessness
-lack of hair

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>>1609963

>> No.1610010

Guys, this is /jp/, stop having discussion about the country of Japan. Take that to /trv/ or something.

>> No.1610014

>>1609992
Lack of hair? Japanese have CRAZY PUBES.

>> No.1610018

Here here!

No more niggers!

No more muslims!

No more human filth and scum!

>> No.1610025
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>>1610018

>> No.1610032

Fuck Japan
They aren't that awesome

>> No.1610038

>Guys, this is /jp/ (Japan/General)
>stop having discussion about the country of Japan

get back in your touhoe thread you fuckwit

>> No.1610043

>>1609417
>- all foreigners now need to get fingerprinted when entering japan

This is also the case in America and soon the UK. And they won't ban all forigners from Japan - their economy could face a royal arsefucking if they do. And what country doesn't blame its crime problem on foreigners? And last time I checked, the prime minister isn't particularly popular.

>> No.1610048

>>1610038
No, you gb2/b/ you newfag.

>> No.1610057

>>1610010
I know you're a troll but.. damn, you're good. And a faggot

>> No.1610061

>- many japanese websites are now blocking foreign IPs and you need a proxy to access them

Maybe if you lot stopped trying to post on 2ch with your broken Japanese then they wouldn't have any problems.

>> No.1610080

>>1610043
America doesn't have too much discrimination when it comes to crime, although most people still think it's DA BLACKS causing all the problems.

>> No.1610068

>all foreigners now need to get fingerprinted when entering japan
This has to be bullshit...
But if it's true, they have 1 less foreigner to worry about.

>> No.1610073

>>1610057
What? /jp/'s not about Japan, you idiot. Goddamn newfags coming to /jp/ thinking this is actually about the country...

>> No.1610088

>>1610068
America already does it. I went there. I got fingerprinted. Unless you intend on raping a child or committing murder over there this shouldn't be a problem.

>> No.1610089

>>1610061

Have you ever heard of an American site that is blocking IPs because people post on there with broken English?
Fuck, if we imposed that rule we would have to immediately block 99% of 4chans userbase

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>> No.1610099

>>1610080
Reminds me of how the witness of a local crime said that the perpetrator was black, so when the police chief said "question all suspicious-looking blacks" it caused an uproar and a protest.

>> No.1610101

>>1610089
You just made three grammatical errors in your second sentence. Prepare to have your IP banned.

>> No.1610113

>>1610088
Hell, all American citizens are fingerprinted too.

>> No.1610116

>>1610089
moot has blocked several countries from posting on 4chan due to rulebreaking and general faggotry (i.e. posting in broken English).

>> No.1610119

>>1610088
I visited America back in 2001, they didn't do it back then.
I'm not a criminal, but the thought of fingerprint registering freaks me out. Next, they'll have samples of my blood, sperm and dna too...

>> No.1610121

>>1610101
I only see one...

>> No.1610129

>>1610073
>/jp/ - Japan/General

GEE YOU'RE RIGHT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COUNTRY. MY BAD.

>> No.1610141

>>1610010
sorry he didn't name this /touhou/
;_;

>> No.1610136

>>1610119
They did when I went in 2007. And your government most likely already has that information on their database, criminal or otherwise.

>> No.1610145

Someone ask
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZmZmIfEPHQ

How he feels about this.

>> No.1610144

>>1610129
SAME TROLL DIFFERENT POSTER
I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS FAGGOTRY

>> No.1610147

>>1610129
Sorry, non-newfags know that the name and the rules have absolutely nothing to do with the board itself. Moot fucked up in choosing both of those. So, since you're a newfag, you're welcome to leave.

>> No.1610152

>>1610145
Sorry, this video is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozui3D0MBME

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>>1610073
>>1610048
>>1610010

>> No.1610163

>>1610136
Denmark. I remember a public debate about it in the media, but I don't think it ever went through our parliament.

>> No.1610169

>>1609834
Haha. Det är lätt att se en ful moderad/sverigedemokrat när man ser dem skriva.

Stick och brinn, högerfitta!

>> No.1610174

>>1610147
You are still a complete faggot for thinking you can somehow enforce or reinforce your ideal of what this board is 4CHAN IS NOT YOUR BLOG YOU ARE NOT THE ADMIN.

>> No.1610179

>>1610163
Oh ok, sorry about that.

But yeah, the Americans take fingerprints of everyone who enters the country, and my government (UK) is considering a similar approach. But I didn't know Japan passed that fingerprint law already - news to me.

>> No.1610183

>>1610174
>hurrr im awesome cause i can yell in uppercase over the internet

>> No.1610188

>>1610174
It's not an ideal, it's a fact.
Your thinking /jp/ is made for japan related threads is what's an ideal.

>> No.1610215

>>1610188
sup newfriend
Maybe I should take you back, waaay back

You see, /jp/ was formed to get the Japan related threads off of /a/, which is meant for anime and manga. So if a thread involved Japan or Japanese politics it wouldn't be placed in /a/. Which at the time was the closest to a general Japan board that 4chan had.
The only reason your Touhou and Type-Moon isn't restricted to /v/ is because of the massive shitstorms that would erupt. Fact: They are video games in every sense of the word, they don't even technically belong here. If it was enforced your way then every Japanese related media would be posted here and the board would quickly be overrun with Wii vs PS3 threads and 100+ image dumps of Kumatora.

>> No.1610226

>>1610215
Sorry, /jp/ is Japanese Media/General, which everyone that actually has been here for more than a month knows.

>> No.1610244

>>1610215
We never had japanese politics in /a/, you fucking fail.
We had VN, light novels and touhou, which are what this board is about.

>> No.1610250

Japan would be fucked if it went back to the Sakoku era. Their economy relies on relations with the West.

And I doubt the Japanese would put up with total isolation.

>> No.1610263

>>1610244
Yes we did. Usually involving "/n/ is that way, gtfo" posts, "/a/ - politics" posts, etc.

>> No.1610260

Just ignore this tired old troll
We've seen it thousands of times now

>> No.1610262

>>1610244
Sup newfriend's slightly newer cousin.

For the record, yes, we did, we had 3-d threads, we had drama threads, we had political threads and 'how my life be liek if i move 2 moonland??//' threads. In fact I think moot originally specified the latter in the original sticky.

>> No.1610277

So what happens if you were born to gaijin parents, but have been a citizen of japan your whole life?

>> No.1610283

>>1609433
>The world is in decline

Although I'd say that we're definitely on the cusp of change, "decline" is a matter of opinion.

>> No.1610284

>>1610277
Then you're a citizen of Japan. They won't hunt you down for being white.

>> No.1610286

>you now need to be a resident of japan in order to get a cellphone, this has never been the case before
Well that's fucked up. Got a source for the exact details of this (in English?) And the reasoning behind this?

>> No.1610307

>>1610286
>Got a source for the exact details of this (in English?)
>(in English?)
Maybe this is the reason why they did it.

>> No.1610323

>>1610307
You make no sense.

>> No.1610352

>>1609956
Hm, so at the very least, improvements can be made to education?

I was under the impression that the youth were pretty with it, on international things, it was mostly the older generation, who happen to run most things that were the more xenophobic

>> No.1610369

>>1610215
/jp/ is and has always been about touhou and nothing else. Go the fuck back to /n/.

>> No.1610373

>>1610352
Sort of. Japanese youth is still pretty clueless, but they're nowhere near as racist as the older generation.

>> No.1610385

>>1610284
I was wondering this for a while now, does Japan have anything even remotely similar to a hate organization or something like the Ku Klux Klan that will act violently towards any foreign race or people? An interesting thought.

>> No.1610392

>>1610369
>>1610226
So you actually believe moot made a whole new forum specifically for Touhou instead of just making a new sticky in /a/ saying that Touhou was bannible and to take your shmup back to /v/?
Don't get me wrong, this is coming from someone who liked the Touhou threads as a break between the barrage of flavor of the month Animu like StrikerS and TTGL. But you're flattering yourself if you think moot gave enough of a shit about Touhou to give it's own forum of it. If it really was Japan media/General, then half of /v/ would have to migrate here. Which is all kinds of stupid.
Quit lying to yourself, sage out of principle

>> No.1610393

>>1610352
Only so far as any teenager will be "with it" on world issues. Meaning lots of ideals, and no grasp of the depth of problems.

Add that to the whole Nihonjinron thing, and we have a non-ignorant but still surprisingly xenophobic country.
At least they aren't quite so jingoistic as American kids; the "this is the best country in the world" mindset isn't followed by "because we can bomb the hell out of everybody".

>> No.1610397

>>1610369
/n/ is about trains now, brah.

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>>1610385

>> No.1610442

>>1610385
THose black van types.

>> No.1610485

Judging from the posts here they won't be missing out on much.

>> No.1610504

>>1609930
>>1609947

I would enjoy the sauce to these

>> No.1610512

Japanese people seemed to like me when I went there. They treated me courteously and let me into Japanese only establishments. Of course I'm Chinese American and I kept my mouth shut most of the time and dress like a fob so they had no idea I wasn't Japanese. Fuck you white people.

>> No.1610536

>>1610393
Well, by 'youth' i'm generally including 'up to 30' which seems the general threshold for young people

>> No.1610735

Every fucking country should be xenophobic. Mixed cultures do not work, just look at Eur^H^H^Hthe Islamic Republic of Europe.

>> No.1610756

!SysNpnp3nU goes in all fields.

>> No.1610762

>>1610756
That's nice, Thebes.

>> No.1610773

>>1610735
Europe works. America works.

>> No.1610789

>>1610773
>Europe works.
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>works.
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DOHOHOHOHO

>> No.1610791

http://www.japantoday.com/category/quote-of-the-day/view/there-is-no-effective-cure-to-save-japan-fr
om-a-population-crisis-in-order-for-japan-to-survive-it-must-open-its-doors-as-an-international-stat
e-to-the-world-and-shift-toward-establishing-an-immigr

>A proposal by a group from the Liberal Democratic Party that suggests Japan should let the immigrant population rise to 10% of the national population over the next 50 years.

>> No.1610819

>>1610277
You're still white. The Japanese even discriminate against the Ainu, who were in Japan before the Japanese.

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>>1610789
Europe isn't mixed in the same sense America is, but it still works fine. Where else do you find a union worth almost 17000 billion $ in GDP?

>> No.1610874

>>1610854
http://news.mongabay.com/2005/0718-worlds_largest.html
Outdated but yeah lol...

>> No.1610876

>>1610854
You have Arab riots though

>> No.1610895

Well anyway, what's wrong with Japan dropping down to say.... 70 million in population? It would still be a player on the international stage, it would still have the anime, the manga, the touhou, the quirks.... Japan is the last homogenous nation left on earth, they should do everything they can to keep it that way.

>> No.1610909

>>1610876
You mean the 100 maybe 200 people who where crying foul at the muhamed drawings on the streets somewhere?
That wasn't in Europe.

>> No.1610924

>>1610080
Yeh I know, not like blacks commit a massively disproportionate amount of crime or anything. Just that invisible, omnipotent, omnipresent white entity making them look bad again, DAMN THAT INVISIBLE WHITE ENTITY!

>> No.1610933

>>1610876
Well Turkey is going to be in the EU, it's like saying America has Christian riots.

>> No.1610931

>>1610895
You mean they should eliminate or port the remaining 57 million people to camps in siberia?
It would suck for you if you where among those 57 million.

>> No.1610943

>>1610924
Whites are invisible in day light a black are in the dark, japs are only invisible on moonlight.

>> No.1610948

>>1610931
No I meant in terms of population decline.... Most theorize that after Stage 5 of the DMT, the population will fall until living standards become cheap enough to facilitate larger families again, at which point a midpoint will be reached.

>> No.1610964

>>1609433
This

>> No.1610968

>>1610933
Except there aren't riots in America

>> No.1610972

>>1610933
Well either they abide by terms of the Ankara Agreement or there won't be membership for them.

>> No.1610973

>>1610933
Turkey's never going to be accepted into europe, stop being delusional.

>> No.1610989

>>1610973
Maybe they'll have their issues sorted out someday, and then I don't see why not. The only ones butthurt about are the Greece.

>> No.1610995

>>1610989

Germans don't like Turks either, since they swarm into the country looking for jobs. They're Germany's Mexico.

>> No.1611002

>>1610989
Hey what? Greece was the same country that nominated them in the first place you mean? Or the same country that has backed their bid? Or the same country that said we shouldn't be too harsh on their disobey of the ankara agreement and failure to meet all terms?

Anyway, you cannot join the EU if you do not recognize a member state of the union.

>> No.1611009

>>1610989
Nope
Most of europe doesn't want them.
As a matter of fact, Sarkozy promised they wouldn't get into the EU during France's presidency.
The fuckers aren't coming.

>> No.1611015

>>1610791
BBL JAPAN

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