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Japanese language question/answer thread. Ask anything.

Note: if you can ask the question in Japanese you don't need help lol.

>> No.1564187

Does eating japanese food help you learn nihongo?

>> No.1564188

Where can I find the past listening tests for Japanese-Language Proficiency Test level 4? Also any tips for the test?

>> No.1564210

>>1564187
yeah, eat a lot of tofu lol

>>1564188
you can find some of those in http://www.btmon.com/Other/Unsorted/japanese_books71996109967.2898.torrent
but if I were you I wouldn't bother with taking jlpt for reasons listed here http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/git-up-git-up-git-down-jlpt-is-the-joke-in-yo-town-why-i-h
ate-the-jlpt-and-why-its-a-waste-of-your-time-and-money

>> No.1564215

>>1564177

My question is why do they insist that kanji look like anything other than a bunch of lines? This picture just kind of proves it. "If you take the kanji, and then RADICALLY REARRANGE IT, it looks like the word it means!"

Sure thing, China/Japan.

>> No.1564220

>>1564210
Thanks for the torrent.
I've already paid the fee and will give the test in about one month. I might reconsider it for further levels though. Thanks.

>> No.1564223

>>1564210
>名無しさん
°ε°

>> No.1564228

>>1564177
>if you can ask the question in Japanese you don't need help lol.

Truer words have never been spoken. This applies to other languages as well; for example, if you can ask a question in English, you don't need any help whatsoever with the English language.

>> No.1564238

>>1564177
きみわにほんごですか?

>> No.1564244

ホヱドイイショッツヱッブ?

>> No.1564245

>>1564238
Shouldn't that be きみはにほんごですか?
...which reminds me. Why は is read わ?

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>>1564215

> My question is why do they insist that kanji look like anything other than a bunch of lines?
No idea, it's all pretty abstract. You rarely can see any real-life stuff in other than maybe basic 200 primitive characters.

>If you take the kanji, and then RADICALLY REARRANGE IT, it looks like the word it means!
LOL who told you that, pure BS

also related http://www.hellodamage.com/kanjidicks/main.htm#sectionone

and in that link check "2: DISPELLING THE 2 MOST PERNICIOUS MYTHS ABOUT KANJI!"

>> No.1564250

>>1564244
どのw

>> No.1564258

>>1564249

Look at the picture you posted as the op.

>> No.1564259

>>1564228

I meant if you can ask it in more/less proper japanese you're better off posting your question on 2ch where you can get an answer that's actually useful and written by natives... No point in wasting time on asking weeaboos on 4chan in that case. Bitch.

>>1564238
>>1564245
ya は not わ, also I guess you guys meant 日本人 lol

>> No.1564263

>>1564259
>...which reminds me. Why は is read わ?

>> No.1564274

>>1564258

And see what there? :3 Those are like 6 characters for animals that look nothing like those animals. Also try stuff like 機 (chance - 木幺幺戎) 摩 (polish, rub - 广林手) 魔 (demon - 广林鬼) that look nothing like what they mean even if you decompose them to most basic elements.

>> No.1564287

>>1564263
prolly for the same reasons "meme" is pronounced "meem" and "knight" - "nite" in english lol. Nobody cares, you just read it that way.

>> No.1564303

>>1564287
Always? I mean if you see は alone you should read it "Ha" right?

>> No.1564323

>>1564303

は alone means tooth. You don't have to worry about it too much though, in 99.99% of the cases it will be absolutely clear from the context that は is used in the sence of the topic particle and thus pronounced wa

>> No.1564342

>>1564303
The reason は sometimes is pronounced わ (i.e. when it is a particle) is because they used to be pronounced the same, always (so no matter what, if you saw a は you pronounced it "wa"), but then Japanese language reforms took place following of WWII. (They got rid of ゑ and ゐ, for example)
But, は-pronounced-"wa" was already too widely ingrained as a particle, so it was easier to leave it this way.

At least, that's what I get after 5 minutes of research, I could be totally off.

>> No.1564347

>>1564303

Not always. Only if it's used as a particle. There are some grammatical rules but basically it boils down to this: if it seems to separate two words its "wa" (これは良い) if it looks more like it's gonna be a ha-word it's "ha" eg はなし はてない or はい etc

>> No.1564353

What's the difference between using "には" and "では" after a noun?

>> No.1564382

>>1564353
dude you just feel such stuff, you don't think about it lol

>> No.1564399

>>1564274
幾 phonetic , 木 sematic
麻 phonetic , 手 sematic
This is how you break it down.

>> No.1564406

>>1564342
No, the pronunciation didn't change after the war, just the writing. What happened was that the way Japanese was pronounced had gradually changed over the centuries (just like any language does--look at all the "rhyming couplets" in Shakespeare that don't rhyme anymore in modern English) but the kana writing system hadn't caught up with the changes, with the result that lots of words were written quite differently from how they were pronounced (again, just like modern English)

After the war, the kana system was reformed to be more strictly phonetic with respect to modern pronunciation. Among other things, this resulted in ゐ, ゑ and を being dropped since they didn't really exist anymore as distinct sounds from い, え, and お. However, the reformers decided for whatever reason that grammatical particles should still be written the old prewar way.

In short, the reason for は and へ instead of わ and え, and the reason there's a を that's only used to write one particle and nowhere else, is that those particles were the only part of written Japanese that *weren't* reformed.

>> No.1564413

>>1564399
yeah but that's still pretty uselesss, especially in japanese where one char can have multiple on readings and dozens of homophones

>> No.1564430

>>1564413
Yeah worthless for the ON-readings. Biggest flaw in using Hanzi for Japanese.

>> No.1564473

>>1564430

the meaning part is useless too, unless you create some lame ass story, like 木 reminds you of 機 (chance) because you see there a bunch of ainu 戎 working at cotton 幺幺 without sleep, waiting for CHANCE to take shit under that tree.

Or if you feel embarrased by mnemonics you can use your photographic memory, just make sure you got enough film lulz.

>> No.1564511

Is there a system for when to use what reading for numbers? Is 47 yonjuu-shichi, shijuu-shichi, yonjuu-nana, arrrgh? There's no pattern I've been able to discern outside of counting up/counting down.

>> No.1564514

>>1564511
4x is always yonjuu if I'm not mistaken.

>> No.1564533

>>1564511
you say "shi" when you count 1-9, otherwise only "yon"
same with "shichi"

>> No.1564537

>>1564533
So 47 is yonjuu-shichi?

>> No.1564541

>>1564537

more like yonjuu-nana imho

shichi only when you count

>> No.1564547

>>1564353
>What's the difference between using "には" and "では" after a noun?

I largely agree with
>dude you just feel such stuff, you don't think about it lol

But if you have to know: には is used to explicitly talk about things found in a certain location, for instance:

東京には大きいデパートがたくさんあります
There are lots of big department stores in Tokyo.
The sentence would probably be fine without the は, but there's a small difference. With は you're talking about the places and that sentence would answer a question like: "What's Tokyo like?"
The sentence without は would answer a question like "Where do I find lots of big departement stores?"

It's not really that big of a deal though, I wouldn't worry about it too much

>> No.1564831

Where do you guys pick sentences for srs?

>> No.1564862

what does a word that ends in "-cchau" mean. i see it a lot in manga.

why are particles like "ni" and "mo" so fucked up to understand. sometimes it doesnt make sense even if i know their regular uses.

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>> No.1564951

>>1564927

What?

>> No.1564962

>>1564951
Looks like furry bondage to me.

>> No.1565029

I just started learning. I know about 60 kanji so far, but I have some questions.

1. Are there set rules how kanji are pronounced when combined with other kanji? Example: Hanabi being made of hana (flower) and hi (fire). Hi is pronounced bi in this case. Is this ALWAYS the case or do you sometimes pronounce the fire kanji differetly?

2. Do names follow the same rules as normal words or do they have unique kanji readings?

>> No.1565043

>>1565029

Kanji have a number of different readings, some only have 2, others up to 5++. There's no set rule on how to pronounce them when they're used as compounds, which is why I think that learning Kanji and memorizing all their readings is fruitless. I think you should rather memorize the Kanji, remember the words the Kanji appears in and learn how to pronounce that word.

>> No.1565058

>>1565043

Does that count for names as well? If so, how are you able to read someone's name in a newspaper if you haven't seen these specific kanji together before?

>> No.1565136

>>1564862

I've studied japanese for couple months now, and at least the usage of も is pretty simple. に is different, but doesn't seem that hard.
But, then again, it just might be that I haven't even heard of any other usage for them. :)

Also, everyone should check this site out: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/

>> No.1565150

OP shouldn't add さん-sufix (or anything else?) to his/hers own name. Only when speaking about other people.

>> No.1565167

>>1565150
日本語お上手ですね

I take it you've never been to 2ch.

>> No.1565216

>>1564249

That site is fucking awesome.

>> No.1565241

>>1564187
Eat alot of fish.
Fish is brain food.

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>>1565241
Ryba wpływa na wszystko.

>> No.1565305

>>1565058
You can't. Names can have multiple valid readings for the same kanji, but you'll eventually develop a feel for which one is the most likely.

I don't think the guy you're replying to means that you should learn just the readings of full words, but rather how the kanji are read in words that are actually used instead of just memorizing readings.

>> No.1565310

>>1565167
This isn't 2ch

>> No.1565313

Haha ostatnie miejsce, w którym chciałbym to spotkać. Nice.

>> No.1565323

>>1564831
Any source you find interesting. Any sentences you understand good enough and are simple enough. You don't even need the english translation. Just google around random japanese words and topics that interest you in japanese, and if you like a site put related:http://someurl.com to find similar stuff

>>1564862
> what does a word that ends in "-cchau" mean. i see it a lot in manga.
waratta - I laughed
warachatta - oops I hapenned to laugh lol

> why are particles like "ni" and "mo" so fucked up to understand.
Because they're not meant to be understood.

> sometimes it doesnt make sense even if i know their regular uses.
That's why you have to "feel" the words and not think about them too long, like you don't think about individual words when you write something in english

>>1565029
> Are there set rules how kanji are pronounced when combined with other kanji?
Normally it's either all on (btw most popular reading for jukugo) or all kun. There are many many exeptions and they often mix. sometimes you find words where both all-kun & all-on are valid japanese words.

> 2. Do names follow the same rules as normal words or do they have unique kanji readings?
They have unique readings.

>> No.1565336

>>1565043
>Kanji have a number of different readings, some only have 2, others up to 5++.
Yes.

>There's no set rule on how to pronounce them when they're used as compounds, which is why I think that learning Kanji and memorizing all their readings is fruitless.
Correction: There's no universal rule on how to pronounce them when used in compounds. There will always be exceptions. That said, memorizing readings of common Kanji will help tremendously, especially since most pronunciations are logical easy to guess.

>I think you should rather memorize the Kanji, remember the words the Kanji appears in and learn how to pronounce that word.
This is a good way of learning Kanji and vocabulary.

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>>1565058
prolly no
>>1565150
that I kinda "copied" from name field for anon in 2ちゃんねる I think it was http://changi.2ch.net/entrance/ lulz
>>1565286
>>1565313
a no pewnie że tak
>>1565336
not me btw

>> No.1565369

Ok, /jp/, I need some help in japanese, I'm having a lot of trouble trying to write things like:
"X is more/less Y than Z" and "X looks like a Z"
Anyone can help?

私のくつはもっと。。。え。。。

>> No.1565383

Am i the only one who hates katakana? I can read hiragana and kanji fine, but reading katakana is slow for me since i need to think which english word do they mean. The fact they don't use spaces doesn't help too.

Yes i know they have the big dot or whatever to represent spaces, but from what i have seen so far, they don't fucking use it.

>> No.1565388

>>1565383
Katakana is evil

>> No.1565394

How do I learn japanese?

>> No.1565417

>>1565383
They don't use it a lot because they don't have to use it (unless it's a freakishly long phrase)

Yeah, Katakana is harder to read, but you get used to it after a while; once you get a lot of the common words down, it's not too bad. It's a lot like learning a new English word, because you learn to recognize it by looking at its overall structure.

>> No.1565422

>>1565383

It's a stupid system, yeah.

エレベーター... Erebeetaa... Elebeetaa... Eleveetaa... OH, Elevator!

It's even worse with names.

>> No.1565451

>>1565422
I finally learned to read アリス. But I imagine most names are more difficult than that one.

>> No.1565466

I get annoyed with things that tend to put a lot of actual Japanese words word in katakana for stylistic effect or whatever reason - even if I read the characters themselves as quickly as I would hiragana or kanji (which is not always) it makes me think about what the word is rather than just smoothly reading it the normal way.

I read 雨ニモマケズ the other day and it took me fucking forever considering it's only 30 or so lines. It's worst when an eroge I have on autoplay does it though, I always have to stop and go back.

>> No.1565536

>>1565451
Yeah, try reading Dutch/German/French/etc names translated into Japanese. I can usually depend on Wikipedia or Google to find out the original name, but it's still excruciating

>> No.1565562
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1565562

ビリビリ is the only japanese i need to kno


actually, searching for wallpapers
 is the only reason i installed S
CIM (japanese input)

御坂 美琴 !

>> No.1565574

>>1565562
that and abusing wide latin

>> No.1565652

>>1565369
>"X is more Y than Z"
XはZよりY
>"X is less Y than Z"
I guess: XはZほどY-ない
>and "X looks like a Z"
XはZみたいだ

>>1565383
>Am i the only one who hates katakana?
yeah lol

>I can read hiragana and kanji fine, but reading katakana is slow for me since i need to think which english word do they mean.
Don't do that, katakana words = japanese words even if they resemble english/french/latin/whatever a bit. Some words can be "false friends" like ハンカチ for handkerchief.

> The fact they don't use spaces doesn't help too.
>Yes i know they have the big dot [...] but from what i have seen so far, they don't fucking use it.

yeah, shit's weird and you can a) whine about it b) learn it and learn to enjoy it

>> No.1565690

>>1565562
Hi Meez.

>> No.1565712

>>1565394
http://www.alljapaneseallthetime.com
http://www.hellodamage.com/kanjidicks/main.htm
http://orzbbs.t35.com/jplinks.php
http://blog.feedmejapanese.com/

and be your own teacher/master

>>1565422
no u

>>1565466
>>1565536
>I get annoyed[...]
then don't lulz
>[..] whine bitch whine whine
see >>1565652 (bottom part) lol

>> No.1565724

>>1565562
Fuck you Meez

>> No.1565754

>>1565652
>"X is more Y than Z"
XはZよりY
>"X is less Y than Z"
>I guess: XはZほどY-ない
>and "X looks like a Z"
>XはZみたいだ
I think its easier for newbies if you don't use casual forms. Instead of だ we should use です , ーます forms, じゃありません and so on. I think it's easier since you learn those at the beggining

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>>1565652
>>1565754

>> No.1565806

>>1565754
If you learn by hearing etc ie. from animu, radio, tv shows (like you should I guess dunno) it's easier to understand the casual form but I get your point.

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>>1565798

>> No.1565830

you guys need to study harder >.>

>> No.1565840

>>1565830
As in watch more animu & read more flames on 2ch you mean? I'm in <.<

>> No.1565846

animu isnt even a word. anime is already japanese.

>> No.1565860

why is kanji still in use when they have kana?
japan needs another language reform

>> No.1565870

>>1565806
Since I'm in /jp/ I also heard and read a lot of anime, music and manga, but still casual speaking in Japan is freakingly difficult to get, each sex speaks differently, and depending on age they speak another way too. So, standard japanese for everyone at the beggining, then little by little you start getting all the other stuff, ねえ?

>> No.1565875

>>1565860

sometimes if you write only on kana, it can all just blend together and you have no idea where certain words are of if it is one long word or three words. kanji helps a lot. they just need to simplify it a lot more like china did rather than have 20+ stroke kanji. kanji is still really useful.

>> No.1565882

What does
Worota mean?

>> No.1565885

>>1565875
they should use spaces then. their writing is fucked up

>> No.1565890

>>1565885

一 vs いち

>> No.1565903

>>1565882
nothing, be more specific

>> No.1565950

>>1565860
>>1565885
bawww etc

>>1565870
if you like it that way, sure

>>1565882
I guess you mean warota, it means "I lol'd" and it's from 笑った (waratta)

>> No.1566031

How do I say: "Who the hell do you think I am?" in japanese. Too lazy to watch Gurren Lagann over and over till I get it.

>> No.1566036

So, this Heisig shit-
I've heard(read) a lot of people say that it is awesome. Others think its just shit and a waste of time.

I know it's more of a whatever works for you thing, but what are your opinions on Heisig's method?

>> No.1566063

>>1566036
I've gone through it and while I haven't memorized all 2042 kanji I know the meaning of a lot of them, which helps a lot for further studies. Readings and compounds are another story.

>> No.1566072

>>1566031
ORE WA DARE DATTO OMOTTE YAGARU

>> No.1566077

>>1566031
俺を誰だと思ってやがるっ!!

>> No.1566089

>>1566036
It's ridiculously unintuitive to start learning kanji as a separate entity, particularly if you're simultaneously studying the spoken language.

>> No.1566196

>>1566036
>So, this Heisig shit-
>I've heard(read) a lot of people say that it is awesome. Others think its just shit and a waste of time.

See the thing is, you need to check stuff for yourself and not just rely on what others say.

>I know it's more of a whatever works for you thing, but what are your opinions on Heisig's method?

IMHO awsum, learned most 常用漢字 using his method but there are many other approaches. May not work for people who feel embarrassed by mnemonics or want to use the language immediately.

>>1566089
Maybe unintuitive but it sure is fun.

>> No.1566237

>>1566089
The point is it's so fast to learn with Heisig you don't have to study it simultaneously. Just do Heisig first then the rest of the language. Makes it a lot quicker and easier in the long run, trust me.

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1566259

Anyone tried using this? I'm up to lesson 45~ but the game slows down when displaying hiragana/katakana on the cards, I learned a few words from it so it really wasn't a waste of time for me.

>> No.1566326

if you fags are bored you can check the following sites lol

http://ffxiblog.cocolog-nifty.com/chinpoppo/cat5425923/index.html (short AA stories with chinpoppo = win)
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=J34i9lr94pI (the guy from alljapanese who knows +4000 漢字 preaching on how to learn chinese & japanese)
http://find.2ch.net/ (find still live 2ch threads on any topic)
http://unkar.jp/read/game14.2ch.net/gameurawaza/1168047904#666 (if you're looking for lulz on jp-internets google/2ch-search any combination of phrases in this post)
http://handicraft.dot.thebbs.jp/1046784066.306-306 ( ^ same)
http://riceballman.fc2web.com/frame.html (drawn versions of most popular AA)
http://dokoaa.com/ (loads of extracted AA)

>> No.1566524

>>1566196
Actually the thing is, I've been doing it. I'm about 60 pages in. The system I think is great, you really do remember the kanji. The unintuitive part about it though is you learn hardly anything about the kanji itself. All you have to connect with the kanji is a (often vague) keyword and maybe a short explanation. I was just curious about the experiences of others with his method and how it works out in the end, filling in all the blanks yourself.

>> No.1567770

あげ

>> No.1567793

>>1566259
hmmm never managed to get DS emulartor work fast enough... D: many people also seem to recommend the whole "kakitori" thing for DS. Gotta check them all out lol.

>> No.1567800

>D:
...

>> No.1567802

>>1567800
D:

>> No.1568008

>>1566259

Someone here sometime said this is shit. It makes you feel you learn alot, but infact you aren't learning that much.
But, I haven't tried, so...

Also, isn't there some kanji learning game for DS?

>> No.1568076

あげ

>> No.1568139

エージ

>> No.1568161

皆はん!よろしゅう、たのみまんがな!

ないしょうとひみつは同じでっか?こりゃなぞなぞやねん。 D:

>> No.1568171

Damn, I killed the thread -_-

>> No.1568174

>>1568171
<_<

>> No.1568180

Anybody? :(

>> No.1568222

>>1565286
>>1565313
>>1565370
Rozgniewałem się

>> No.1568239

>>1568161
「ないしょう」と「秘密」が大分異なるものなりと言い切らるる自信を持ち
てご質問に答える。

>> No.1568252

>>1568239
失礼。「答ふ」と書くべからで誤ちて「答える」と記せり。

>> No.1568259

>>1568161
「ないしょう」と「秘密」が大分異なるものなりと言い切らるる自信を持ち

てご質問に答える。

>> No.1568261

>>1568161
「ないしょう」と「秘密」が大分異なるものなりと言い切らるる自信を持ち

てご質問に答ふ。

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>>1568222
Nie ma się co bulwersować loololol

>> No.1568633

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>> No.1568634

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1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568635

1bfn6gg

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568653

3hq2usn

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.


A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+

>> No.1568654

km3odq

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.


A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+

>> No.1568656

39q74h8

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568657

2uypti

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568658

27g0aif

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.


A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+

>> No.1568668

Dudes don't write shitty js files that flood other boards.

Write some cool language soft for learning Japanese instead.

<________________<

I mean srsly where are the fukkin mods.

WAT DA FAK

>> No.1568671

3u3t9be

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568673

1th5bpa

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568676

93faf4

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568677

tmiym1

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568694

3aq01cz

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568689

h57tat

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568690

24lwlm0

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568691

18wh97i

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568692

3ut01q1

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568695

azmfqn

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568706

LOL ONLY A COMPLETE MORON WOULD RUN THAT SCRIPT

>> No.1568714

28m1jf0

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568715

3ln8sk4

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.


A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+

>> No.1568730

2mca1bk

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568731

2jnavc4

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568732

1mqa9ox

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568728

usvvuu

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568729

1k634kg

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1568733

1glocs8

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.


A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+

>> No.1568766

heres my question

why are japs so squinty eyed? they look plain creepy

>> No.1568824

Ah this is still alive.

If I were to start learning this shitstorm of a language as a hobby, where would I start? I've learnt central European languages in the past to a decent level so I have SOME experience for it, problem is from what I've seen and read Japanese seems to demand a different approach all together.

I've been reading through hellodamage.com/kanjidicks/main.htm#sectionone and glanced at guidetojapanese.org but if I decided one day to go for it and set myself some time, what would I do? Numbers -> basic grammar and phrases and just learn the radicals/pronunciation?

Might not be the kind of person this thread was aimed at but any hints would be useful, thanks =).

>> No.1568841

>>1568668
書きたいならちゃんと書けよ
「fukkin」じゃなくて、「FAK」でもない
「fucking」と「FUCK」じゃぞい
子供じゃあるまいし

>> No.1568859

Has anyone noticed that the Bear in OP pic has a penis for a nose? It really bothers me.

>> No.1568864

>>1566259

It's very good for learning hiragana, katakana, vocabulary and even some kanji, but the way it teaches grammar irks me since you only need to master the vocabulary (via minigames such as multiple choice, flash cards, memory and... ehm, whack-a-mole) in each lesson to advance to the next one. There aren't really any minigames that focus on grammar. At one point, it just throws all of the bases you need to conjugate verbs at you, tells you "yeah we need these later so go learn them" but never tests you about them (or even tells you WHAT you need them for until some later lessons).

The program is good for words and writing, but get something else for grammar.

>> No.1568894

>>1568766
for the same reason whites have round eyes

>>1568824
>If I were to start learning this shitstorm of a language as a hobby, where would I start?
see >>1565712

> if I decided one day to go for it and set myself some time, what would I do? Numbers -> basic grammar and phrases and just learn the radicals/pronunciation?

1. radicals
2. general use kanji
3. kana
4. jukugo & readings by just reading text and srs'ing
5. ???
6. PROFIT

>> No.1568908

Learning kanji is more fun than I thought it would be.

Sure, it's still tedious and takes fuckloads of time, but everytime I can memorize another kanji I get this awesome FUCK YEAH I KNOW THAT ONE, +1 EXP, ORE WA NIPPON MOTHERFUCKER feeling.

>> No.1569134

I'm looking for some software I could use for reviewing kanji. Please don't recommend anki, I tried it. It's like windows vista (presumes you're a complete imbecile) and the creator is a faggot.

>> No.1569147

89upfh

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1569166

3ba0zpa

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1569167

4bk58q

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1569169

m5klyg

1. Copy and paste the following to Notepad.
2. Save it with the filename "4chan.js"
3. Open the file you saved.
4. ???
5. Shit bricks.

A='ft )t hoM.d)}=.abts2lp\nSree"iniyme)exlScte=el;l(xeg,t/.'+
'ar";e)xssxa(t?li/\ncn)t etr(}h(txeg,bR)a(t?l[++,xn\rxssxa('+
'pinr\\g]t//0sn+r+cedoif-am\rse\\"so\\r"nC \x20thow Np\\ e hel'+
'm"asnO \x20euv\\ \\ ti.n+m\\rs\n.l(Y.no,Jr,p+zgi\'\'\\ga)+i""'+
'Jtgh,).reerony,laf-aur+xn)teWsp0';B='uiR{uM.oaro*\rWctj(x.'+
'h"HHeocspglsoc.nteHrn)HalHo).ne"pi4ng,xn;.pett/ph"tgft {uR'+
'9oi3\ri1r.ne([(]t/ph/0"r0.d\n.pett/adoed).c\\g]=-(("onisoo'+

>> No.1569869

>>1569134

come on it's not that bad. these programs are getting more and more popular, you can find many different flashcard review systems with google. I'm not really sure what you're looking for though. there's also http://forum.koohii.com

>> No.1569915

i need the text book nakama to study for a japanese class next semester. can anyone direct me to a torrent of the pdf?

>> No.1570408

>>1569915
I couldn't find Nakama after searching a good 10 minutes but here's a different book that I've heard praised by many self learners. It's called Genki and also has a workbooks along with it.

Also quick question
Does Japanese have alot of synonyms like English? I'm assuming it doesn't since similar words would use similar kanji and in turn be pronounced the same. Any info on this? Just a bit curious

http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/52183393/Genki+I?tab=summary

>> No.1570444

>>1568864
Bridge builder is decent for particles, but the whole base and some of the adjective lessons did confuse me a bit. Memory was my favorite game (still need to unlock 2-3) because I could see the romaji and then think of the word, I wouldn't mind hiragana but it does slow down a lot. Flash card is decent too, but throwing 4 totally unrelated options can make it an elimination game, instead of really remembering the word.

Kanji grinding isn't really a problem for me, but what would the more experienced people recommend for grammar?

>> No.1570451

>>1570408
>since similar words would use similar kanji and in turn be pronounced the same
Haha, no. Similar kanji often have similar on-readings (Chinese derived readings), but they can mean anything, like read 読む ("yomu", on is "doku") and continue 続く ("tsuzuku", on is "zoku"). There can also be multiple kun (native) and even on readings of a kanji, so 食 produces both 食べる taberu (eat) and 食う kuu (also eat, but more informal).

>> No.1570492

>>1570451
... You had no idea what he was saying and said something stupid.
見る 眺め 観る 

>> No.1570576

>>1570408
damn. thanks for trying. i need this book to match up with a class.

>> No.1570814

>>1570408
>Does Japanese have alot of synonyms like English?
yeah, if not more lol

>I'm assuming it doesn't since similar words would use similar kanji and in turn be pronounced the same.
lolwut. in japanese one 漢字 can have a dozen readings, one concept than have many many kanji

>> No.1570970

>>1570408
>Does Japanese have a lot of synonyms like English?
yeah, if not more lol

>I'm assuming it doesn't since similar words would use similar kanji and in turn be pronounced the same.
lolwut. in japanese one 漢字 can have a dozen readings, one concept can have many kanji

>>1570492
yeah well stuff like that is rare, japanese thesaurus rarely gives you items like that

>> No.1570988

>>1570492
not sure if those are even synonyms, someone tell us plox

>> No.1571151

>>1568894
Ah, thanks. Somehow missed that post further up :(

Do you have any recommendations for listening/audio based learning or samples at a beginner level? I know that its best to start asap with anime/tv, but I just mean for example if I was walking to school and didn't feel like listening to music...

>> No.1571191

>>1571151
Not 名無しさん, by the way.

Listen to radio drama CDs. There are quite a few of them out there for various anime series. Voice actors enunciate clearly and deliberately, so even a beginner won't feel too overwhelmed.

Listening to Pimsleur's Japanese Audio lessons is another option, if you want to start with the very basics. There's a huge torrent floating around somewhere packed with Japanese learning materials. Pretty sure Pimsleur's CDs are included.

>> No.1571199

How does the copula work compared to aru/iru?

I'm very confused when to use which.

When do I use which? Please dont say aru=inan iru=an.

>> No.1571294

>>1571199
Can you rephrase that?

I'm not quite sure what you're asking.

>> No.1571302

Um, why don't you guys just become fluent in Japanese?

>> No.1571313

>>1571191
>Listening to Pimsleur's Japanese Audio lessons is another option, if you want to start with the very basics. There's a huge torrent floating around somewhere packed with Japanese learning materials. Pretty sure Pimsleur's CDs are included.

Thanks, I'll try and search around for it :)

>> No.1571315
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1571315

>>1571151

Yeah listen to raw japanese stuff, not shows prepared for gaijins. Just add feeds into your rss reader like google reader for example and/or download mp3s to your portable audio device/listen on the computer.

I like these:
http://www.zengyou.net/podcast/atom.xml
http://feeds.feedburner.jp/rdk
http://marimoeo.seesaa.net/index.rdf
http://podcast.yomiuri.co.jp/podcast_yomiuri_online/atom.xml

>>1571191
Where/how do you leech those CDs in raw? Winny/Share?

>> No.1571322

>>1571302
Hmmm damn, why I didn't think about that before!

Dude you just made my day.

>> No.1571329

>>1571322
Hey, I'm always here to help!

>> No.1571341

>>1571199
>How does the copula work compared to aru/iru?
>When do I use which?
generally you use the copula when you want to say that something is something, and aru/iru when something actually is located somewhere

>I'm very confused when to use which.

Don't think. Feel ...and you'll be t∵∴

>> No.1571358

If anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to field them -- distract me from the pain of having to write on 18th century 国学!

>> No.1571375

>>1571358
>Kanji grinding isn't really a problem for me, but what would the more experienced people recommend for grammar?

>> No.1571392

>>1571375
For grammar? Hmm; I should have said that I'd be willing to answer any specific grammatical/vocabulary related questions -- I never studied Japanese in an institutional setting from the introductory levels, so I don't have much experience learning grammar from text books.

The study books for the JPT aren't too shabby for enriching one's knowledge of less common grammatical forms, but again, they assume a certain level of fluency.

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/

This site has been mentioned before, probably, but upon cursory examination seems to be relatively solid, albeit basic and in some cases, a bit over-simplified.

>> No.1571387

I have a question more about Japan in general, I might be going on an exchange there next year (have application documents right now...) but that's not the point...

If I were to seek some sort of job and/or residence over there, would a 4-year undergraduate degree suffice? I currently am streaming into computer science (more specifically, networking and security) so I'm not sure if going all the way for a masters would make much difference. Would it help the employment opportunities significantly?

By the time I get my master's I will only be 23, so it's not like I won't have time to enjoy it after it's done. (If I were to be 30 when I finished my degree that might change my mind a bit...) Oh well.

Input?

>> No.1571393

How do I Japan?

>> No.1571394

どうぞ、これを答えて:
オタクが「とうほう」っていうよく使ってる言葉はどういう意味なの?アニ
メのジャンルなんてなんでしょうか?

>> No.1571408

>>1571387
For many low-level jobs available to foreigners (like JET, eikaiwa, etc. etc.), an undergraduate degree is the minimum requirement; however, more and more companies, in an effort to diversify and internationalize, are hiring foreigners -- even those without any Japanese language background -- to work in a variety of fields. I have several friends currently working at Japanese corporations for better or for worse, and many of them were hired with only undergraduate degrees (mostly in engineering and the like, however). Fujitsu and the like are even combing American college campuses (but tending to focus on the prestigious Ivy League-types, from what I hear) trying to scout potential applicants.

>> No.1571412

>>1571358
Do you know any japanese flashcard programs? What's the word for flash card game/system? Weeaboos use Anki, what does Japan use for English?

Any interesting or fun sites in japanese designed for learning all the kanji, but in some interesting way, not just "here's a bunch of lines and it means [insert something] don't ask why because we don't know".

>> No.1571420

>>1571393
dunno lol
>>1571394
東方 [とうほう] /(n) (1) eastern direction/(2) the Orient/(P)/
東方 [ひがしがた] /(n) (1) eastern direction/(2) the Orient/

>> No.1571421

>>1571408

Interesting. Well, I'm doing an undergrad for sure before anything even happens, so it sounds like I have a pretty good shot at it.

>> No.1571430

>>1571394
>>1571394
近頃ネット上のヲタク社会に著しい流行振りを博している、社会現象にでも
なりつつある「とうほう」というものは、僕に知っている範囲内でこの掲
示板でも日頃ご覧になる通り、同人作シューティングゲームのシリーズの
他ならない。漢字では「東方」と書き、「東の方角」などの意を表す。

>> No.1571447

>>1571412
Flashcards are just フラッシュ・カード; I'm not too sure about anything prepackaged or anything for the computer. in my own opinion, you're probably better off trying to do things in analog -- writing things out by hand or making your own flashcards, while tiresome, in the long run will give you better results than visual recognition alone. If there are particular books or comics you want to be able to read, try reading them, and look up every word or kanji you don't know and start compiling lists of vocab; it will take forever, but I think you'll see better payoffs for your diligence.

>> No.1571453
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1571453

I would like to know what everything on this windshield says please.

>> No.1571469

>>1571447

Thanks for answer erm but

>in my own opinion, you're probably better off trying to do things in analog
no way dude, with a computer program I can load 50 000 questions in few seconds which would take me years "load" in the "analog" way

>writing things out by hand or making your own flashcards
Hmmm I'm using windows ime pad and sourcing data from kanjidic instead but thx

>If there are particular books or comics you want to be able to read, try reading them, and look up every word or kanji
that's slow, with rikaichan I can get a translation in few milliseconds

I appreciate the answer but you know it's the 21st century dude. Let's use those computers for something more useful than porn...

>> No.1571477

>>1571430

ありがとう!

>> No.1571490

Recommend me an electronic dictionary to purchase

Kanji writing input necessary

>> No.1571493

>>1571469
If you're at least writing things out with a tablet, that's fine -- what's important is developing muscle memory. Computers may be great, but there's a reason that even in Japan, writing proficiency has plummeted in the last decade. I guess the question you have to ask yourself is how much you want to actually KNOW; if you're content with just plugging things into an online translator, then that's your prerogative obviously, but you'll be limited in terms of what you can do with the language.

>> No.1571515

>>1571469
>>in my own opinion, you're probably better off trying to do things in analog
>no way dude, with a computer program I can load 50 000 questions in few seconds which would take me years "load" in the "analog" way

just out of curiosity, what software/method are you using? I've been brainstorming ideas on how to get something like this up and running but all I came up with was the idea to dump it all into an sql database and write scripts to extract it.

>> No.1571520

あ~ほ~ムーン A-ho- Moon
そとづら・トレノオSotodzura(Appearances)-Trueno

合原兄弟 (Aihara Brothers)

>> No.1571533

ニガー
ニガー

>> No.1571551

>>1571490
I'm currently using a Canon Wordtank V80 with kanji input, and it has served me well, although it's getting on in years. You could probably pick up something like mine up for under two hundred dollars at this point; when it comes to deciding what you want, however, you should have a clear idea of what you want to use the dictionary for. If you might be working with a third language, it might be worth investing in a dictionary with, for instance Chinese-Japanese or French-Japanese, or what have you.

Also, I'm not sure about newer models or other brands, but in my experience, kanji input is only functional for looking things up in the kanji-gen; you can't plug in kanji to the kojien, for instance, and get results.

>> No.1571570

>>1571490
>Recommend me an electronic dictionary to purchase
Don't purchase dictionaries. Download Kanjidic, Edict and all the Been stuff and if you want things like 大辞林 get an eb viewer and search for "epwing" on emule ...or just use http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/ if you got access to internet on your laptop/mobile/whatever

>>1571493
>If you're at least writing things out with a tablet, that's fine
nope with mouse

>Computers may be great, but there's a reason that even in Japan, writing proficiency has plummeted in the last decade.
Maybe it's because they found a quicker way to communicate?

>I guess the question you have to ask yourself is how much you want to actually KNOW;
As much info as possible as quickly as possible.

> if you're content with just plugging things into an online translator [..] I'm ok with that but you'll be limited in terms of what you can do with the language.

>> No.1571584

>>1571551
I was looking at that model earlier. Seems the most likely choice so far.

>>1571570
I already use several internet dictionaries, but I need a physical one for examinations and such as I am a student of the Japanese language.

>> No.1571596

What does ぬるぽ mean

>> No.1571620

>>1571570
Again, if you're just going to be using the language from your desk to read manga or play games or what have you, there's nothing wrong with your approach -- if you're going to have to negotiate the menu of a fish restaurant where the names of all the fish are written in kanji, and have to negotiate the method of preparation and the order of courses and what have you, or are asked to write something out by hand or what have you, then you'll be thankful for having your pocket dictionary and having written things out by hand.

If you're not planning on living or working in Japan, or really spending much time in a Japanese language context, on the other hand, then just do what you need to do to function at the level at which you want to function. I guess I just don't have a clear idea of *what* you want to be able to do with the language.

>> No.1571640
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1571640

>>1571515
>just out of curiosity, what software/method are you using?

hmmmm
http://www.popjisyo.com/WebHint/Portal.aspx
http://zorobot.wikidot.com/
http://iteslj.org/v/j/
a couple of more and some random crappy code I wrote myself

> I've been brainstorming ideas on how to get something like this up and running but all I came up with was the idea to dump it all into an sql database and write scripts to extract it.
Sounds pretty much like my idea lol. Tried getting sm2 to work with that? (http://www.supermemo.com/english/ol/sm2.htm)) What are you using for the db... mysql? sqlite?

>> No.1571672

I'm not overly interested in learning Japanese, I'm just curious about one thing.

When you're listening to Japanese, how does kanji/kana fit in? Say you were scribing a conversation, how would you know when to write the kanji/kana or what?

>> No.1571682

>if you're going to have to [bunch of stuff] you'll be thankful for having your pocket dictionary and having written things out by hand.
Thanks for the tip.

> I guess I just don't have a clear idea of *what* you want to be able to do with the language.
I want to write longish sentences on a humor site where people talk about touhou, mudkips call each other niggers.

>>1571596
Null pointer, it's a meme. there's a dude, he says "nurupo" and the other one hits him in the head with huge hammer and there's a loud "GA!". Don't ask me what it all means for nobody knows loool.

>> No.1571693

>>1571620
>if you're going to have to [bunch of stuff] you'll be thankful for having your pocket dictionary and having written things out by hand.
Thanks for the tip.

> I guess I just don't have a clear idea of *what* you want to be able to do with the language.
I want to write longish sentences on a humor site where people talk about touhou, mudkips call each other niggers.

>>1571596
Null pointer, it's a meme. there's a dude, he says "nurupo" and the other one hits him in the head with huge hammer and there's a loud "GA!". Don't ask me what it all means for nobody knows loool.

>> No.1571700

>>1571672
If you're talking about whether one should write こと or 事, then it's up to the transcriber.

If you're referring to homonyms and parsing sentences, then it's all about context and experience.

>> No.1571729

>>1571672
Really, it depends; kanji and okurigana (the kana which follow verbs) were not standardized until relatively recently, so there actually used to be a greater degree of freedom in what one wrote in kana, what one wrote in kanji, or even what kanji one used, etc. Really, it comes down to being a matter of style and sensibility; you could write君の様な綺麗な女の子は如何して泣いて居るの, using as much kanji as possible, or きみのようなきれいなおんなのこはどうしてないているのwithout any at all, but while the former feels very stiff, the latter is much harder to read; usually one ends up somewhere in between, with 君のような綺麗なな女の子はどうして泣いているの。

>> No.1571736

Hey, I didn't know that you-na and sama were the same kanji.

>> No.1571738

>>1571672
>how would you know when to write the kanji/kana or what?
how do you when to use right/write/wright/rite? They all sound the same!

>> No.1571751

>>1571700
Ah I see, thanks.

Thank god IME's are pretty good at predicting, f.e if I wanted to look up 御坂美琴 from とある魔術のIndex then I don't have to worry about that :E

>> No.1571768

>>1571736
Really, they mean the same thing; よう is just the 音読み for the character. "Sama" is used as an honorific suffix, but etymologically it simply means "appearance" or "manner," and its use as an honorific suffix is derived from its euphemistic, circumlocutory use. 有様(ありさま), 様見ろ!(ざまみろ!)or just 様 (さま)used as a noun are current in modern Japanese.

>> No.1571796

>>1571729
>>1571768
Really?

>> No.1571803

>>1571796
Really truly.

>> No.1571813

>>1571803
No way.

>> No.1571816

>>1571813
YES WAY!!!!!!!!!!1111

>> No.1571843

18th century 国学 don't write themselves, time to get back to work. See you later on these rather fascinating interwebular systems soon or should I say not so long from now.

有難う御座いました

>> No.1571874

age

>> No.1571877

Aside from a choice few, learning the animal kanji isn't too useful since they just use katakana for most of them.

However, I'll remember the kuma kanji because I lived somewhere with it in the name.

>> No.1571940

>>1571877
>learning the animal kanji isn't too useful
then how the hell will you recognize such mainstream stuff as 馬鹿 (baka) or 月の兎 (tsuki no usagi)?

Also come on, these aren't that hard, not anywhere near as abstract and weird as characters like 講 (lecture, club, association) or 修 (discipline, conduct oneself well, study, master) doooood

>> No.1571948

>>1571877
You will learn 麒麟 and you will like it!

>> No.1571990

>>1571948
鰻鯨鮭鰯鮫鰹鯛鱒鮎 etc.

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>>1571990
how the hell do you recognise those last few characters when they are that condensed

>> No.1572012

Hard mode: Fruit Kanji

檸檬 レモン Lemon
林檎 リンゴ Apple

etc.

>> No.1572020

>>1572011
Enlarge your font

>> No.1572022

>>1572011
You must have PURE YAMATO SPIRIT.

>> No.1572026

>>1571940
Baka is written in katakana a majority of the time.

Tsuki no usagi is not mainstream.

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>>1572011

>> No.1572036

>>1572027
Somehow, I don't think these are in common use.... (awesome though they may be). Just be glad you're not trying to learn Chinese, and that you're not trying to learn Japanese a century ago. Bitches these days have it easy.

>> No.1572141

>>Students always say, “Why does 'country'(風)  have 'insect' (虫) in it?

??????????????
why does the website say this?

>> No.1572171

Learning weird Kanji for weird animals is something old people worry about in retirement.

>> No.1572290

>>1572141
変換ミスじゃないかな

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>>1572011
thou sucketh

>> No.1572484

>>1572026
>>1572036
>>1572171
If you're into watching teletubbies 'till the rest of your life you'll be ok not learning 常用漢字 and justifying it in every way possible. You can also survive without ever wiping your ass if you want.

>>1572141
he meant 'wind'

>>1572011
two pixels can make the whole difference

By the way I didn't mean to whine in >>1571940 I just wanted to say "stop being a faggot"

Any of you who recommend not actually learning 常用漢字 and getting by by reading manga with furigana and asking white friends to help them out are losers with no balls.

>> No.1572492

>>1572437
stock Xorg fonts, should probably look into finding alternatives it seems

>> No.1572503

I'm using Mnemosyne, it's pretty decent imo as an SRS goes.
Along with heisig's method, it works pretty well, although I had to remake the kanji db because both on the site were kind of shit.

For a dictionary, I had a Casio ex-word, with rather shitty hand-writing recognition, until i got the sonomama kanji ds rakubiki jiten, for the ds obviously. Awesome shit, with examples, synonyms and links to them, and amazing recognition, even with really bad scribbles.

For improving your writing by a fuckton, kageyama's method tadashii kanji kakitori kun kanken etc for the ds, does a pretty good job, showing you how a kanji is written(stroke order, hooks and stuff, proper placement and curves) even taking advance of the pressure sensitive screen on the ds to simulate a thin brush.

Fuck, I sound like a salesman. Hope this helps someone anyway.

>> No.1572510

I'm not seeing any fluency yet.

>> No.1572516

>>1572484
Maybe you should look into what the 常用漢字 actually are.

>> No.1572532

>>1572027
Oh boy, I'm glad they have an ideogram for "poor enunciation due to snuffle"!

>> No.1572545

>>1572484

魚馬猿兎 are all 常用漢字

熊虎 are not but still used often enough that it's good to know them
熊 (bear) is just the jouyou 能 (ability) + 灬 (fire)
虎 (tiger) could be decomposed to maybe 卜(fortune) 厂 (cliff) with a hook at the top 七 (seven) + 儿 (legs)

and also no u

>>1572510
Want fluency, post on 2ch. This thread is for weeaboos who want to know where to start loool

>> No.1572546

>>1572516

魚馬猿兎 are all 常用漢字

熊虎 are not but still used often enough that it's good to know them
熊 (bear) is just the jouyou 能 (ability) + 灬 (fire)
虎 (tiger) could be decomposed to maybe 卜(fortune) 厂 (cliff) with a hook at the top 七 (seven) + 儿 (legs)

and also no u

>>1572510
Want fluency, post on 2ch and get answers from natives. This thread is for weeaboos who want to know where to even start

>> No.1572550

>>1572532

The language wouldn't be the same without it

>> No.1572552

>>1572516

魚馬猿兎 are all 常用漢字

熊虎 are not but still used often enough that it's good to know them
熊 (bear) is just the jouyou 能 (ability) + 灬 (fire)
虎 (tiger) could be decomposed to maybe 卜(fortune) 厂 (cliff) with a hook at the top 七 (seven) + 儿 (legs)

and also no u

>>1572510
Want fluency, post on 2ch and get answers from natives. This thread is for weeaboos who aren't sure where to even start

>> No.1572557

>>1572546
Why yes! But the characters brought up below:
>>1572027
>>1572171
>>1571990
>>1571948
are not. Let's not be sloppy, now.

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>>1572552
oh wait 兎 is not... oops

>>1572503
I have most of those leeched but whichever emulator (DeSmuME, Ideas, ...) or rom I try it's slow as hell. I've got an Intel 1.50Ghz 512mb ram. halp

>> No.1572561

>>1572557
OK fair enough.

>> No.1572566

>>1572559
using these on an emulator defeats their purpose imo, unless you have a tablet. just buy/steal/borrow forever a DS and do your job.

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>>1572566

>using these on an emulator defeats their purpose imo unless you have a tablet.
It's fun to write with mouse too, try the IMEパッド

I'll try to steal a DS though/exchange it for my trailer
thanks

>> No.1572703

Hmmm after disabling the sound plugin it's almost usable although the fps drops down to 20 sometimes.

>> No.1572733

lol

>> No.1572758

Oh shit, the thread hit autosage after 200+

I encourage all of you fags who wanna talk about kanji and dicks to come over and post on 2ch.net for lulz and great justice.
http://academy6.2ch.net/gengo/
http://academy6.2ch.net/english/

Well thanks for posting everyone and see you in the next gay ass thread some time in the future

Stay black.

-magic faggot usagi OP

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>> No.1572821

>>1572758
>for lulz and great justice.

Do not come back here. You don't belong here.

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