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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>> No.15634770

>>15634718
what the fuck dude

>> No.15634819

>>15634718
you must really like this girl

>> No.15634835
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>>15634585
Namima no Kuni no Faust

>> No.15634951

>>15634585
https://vndb.org/v13482

>> No.15635005
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>>15634585

>> No.15635039

>>15635005
you win this one

>> No.15635165

>>15634819
Not him but she's really cute

>> No.15635260

Roka > Murasame = Mako > Rena > Koharu > Yoshino

>> No.15635272

>>15635039
Shinnew wins

>> No.15635301
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>>15635260
>Roka > Murasame
I need to think that over actually.

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>>15634951
Worth a laugh.

>> No.15635396

Why is cross channel good? I am reading this for the first time, 1 hour in and it's nother but anime cliches and vn tropes. The writing has not been particularly good either.

>> No.15635421

>>15635260
>Hoshino last

Do people with taste this shitty really exist?

>> No.15635426

>>15635396
It's just another mediocre game that IRC memed into kamige status

>> No.15635439

>>15635396
Ah yes, another episode of "dude reads extremely well received game, starts critiquing it in the very beginning, questioning why it's popular"

>> No.15635474

>>15635439
But it's been literally nothing but common anime tropes, sexual harrasment, boke humour, and ecchi panty shots. Literally everything being complained about in senren banka.

>> No.15635531

>>15635474
You just can't appreciate good writing. Sorry.

>> No.15635532

>>15635474
Maybe you should stick to moege then.

>> No.15635539

>>15635474
Give it time. Don't judge a book by its cover, don't judge a game by it's beginning, especially when the beginning is a bait and switch.

>> No.15635549

Is MuvLuv Alternative a kamige?

>> No.15635556

>>15635549
No. It mostly got its popularity with the shock factor, the writing is far from good.

>> No.15635559

>>15635532
My point is that it's nothing but moege tropes.

>>15635539
Man I really hate the "it's good 30 hours in" argument. Even Nasu can do better than that.

>> No.15635571
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I don't like seeing other people talk about my wife

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>>15635571
YOUR wife?

>> No.15635590

>>15635559
And my point is that your intelligence is only apt to read moege. C+C is good from the very first line if you read with your brain instead of hoping for everything to be spoonfed to you like you're used to from lesser works.

>> No.15635592

>>15635571
don't worry, she's not real and you'll die alone anyway

>> No.15635613

>>15635559
>Man I really hate the "it's good 30 hours in" argument.
That's not my argument. I don't have an argument. I'm just telling you to give it time. You can't judge a book by the cover. And since it seems like you're not picking up on my extremely blunt hint: the beginning is a bait and switch. So really you're being especially dumb by judging it so early.

>> No.15635710

>>15635613
Or I can read something that does not waste my time like SnU, WA2 or Muramasa. Just Finished 見里'sex scene going to drop it while I'm ahead. The writing just does not do it for me.

>> No.15635721

>>15635710
Go back to Senren Banka then you fucking child.

>> No.15635725

>>15635710
lol

>> No.15635740

>>15635721
No need to get angry just because I don't want to join in on your little safe space hug box.

>> No.15635750

>>15635592
You're right she's not real she's a magical sword

>> No.15635792

>>15635710
Both SNU and Muramasa have similar slow first chapters you absolute dunce

>> No.15635799

>>15635792
SnU's being far worse than anything in the rest.

>> No.15635861

>>15635792
They didn't shitty anime tropes and had better writing to be fair.

>> No.15635864

/jp/ so tsundere as always

>> No.15635877

>>15635864
Just a few autist that can't stand people having their own opinions.

>> No.15635887

>>15635792
The prologue maybe but the first chapter of muramasa was pretty entertaining

>> No.15635899

>>15635861
lol are you sure you even read SnU you faggot

there's gay/trap jokes about Kei all the time and it's filled with mundane cooking shit

>> No.15635936

>>15635792
>Muramasa have similar slow first chapters
Dunno if I agree with that, maybe a slow first 30 minutes.

>> No.15635939

>>15635899
Kei scenes were good and not in any way a stock anime cliche scenes, also there were amazing scenes like both tadaima scenes with Rin, Shizuku's first appearance and the Oscar Wilde scene, the atmosphere during the funeral. Man fuck you SnU first chapter was great.

>> No.15636026 [DELETED] 

All these butthurt moogy fangirls.

>> No.15636072

The autism in this thread is getting unbearable. Please stop.

>> No.15636164
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thoughts on シロガネ×スピリッツ ?

got interested in it when i saw it had tournament-ish style fighting but it seems mediocre so far and the fact that they added a loli that suddenly falls for the MC but who has no route really triggers me

>> No.15636198

>>15636164
>giga
it's shit

>> No.15636248

>>15636164
They tried to make something like Majikoi and I'm pretty sure they planned to do some fandisc for side characters, but in the end as >>15636198 said it was shit so they jumped into new shit projects.

>> No.15636263

Did anyone here actually try the VR on Costume Maid 3D? There is also onahole especially made for the game, Iam thinking of buying it.

>> No.15636295

>>15636248
well fuck, it should have been a big red flag for me when i couldn't find any info about added content for the vita port

anything with a similar scenario that isn't shit? i tried looking around but couldn't really find anything

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Anyone reason why Natsuzora Kanata needs 84GB of space?

>> No.15636541

>>15634718
She needs a big fucking route. And pink hair too.

>> No.15636600

How good is Chaos;Child?

>> No.15636784

Wine or VM for your visual novels on Linux?

>> No.15636797

>>15636784
Windows XP or 7 VM, Wine is too much of a headache most of the time and visual novels don't usually need much performance overhead.

>> No.15636889

So what's with Riku in フローラル・フローラブ? The game seems to completely forget that she exists except when Masataka is home.

>> No.15636894

Anyone read shoujo minority.The art is pretty fappable.Came buckets to it.

>> No.15636922

Asapro #1

prove me wrong

>> No.15637043

>>15636922
their games

>> No.15637143

>>15637043
Masterpieces = #1

>> No.15637173

>>15637143
You could say they're #1 at making master pieces of shit

>> No.15637247
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>>15635571
Stop self inserting she's the protag's gf/wife

>> No.15637270 [DELETED] 

Any VNs that acurate represent the nanking incident

I don't like chinese people

>> No.15637287

Why do I always make the mistake of playing two VNs at once even though I don't like doing that. Sitting here not knowing which to boot up is an annoying feeling.

>> No.15637307
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http://www.4gamer.net/games/313/G031329/20160728068/

Anybody interested?

Also why does the art look better than most stuff that came out these couple of years?

>> No.15637319

>>15637307
No, otome games are always garbage.

>> No.15637320

>>15634718
I asked this several threads ago but got no reply

What is this hairstyle called?

I want to know what is the tag

>> No.15637324

>>15637319
Buts its plotege

plus I'm a sucker for mysteries

>> No.15637331

>>15637307
Don't have a vita. And most otome games I've played ignored their plot as much as they could.

>> No.15637338

>>15637319
>otome games are always garbage
Male spotted. Nobody cares about your opinion.

>> No.15637360

>>15637319
Fuck you I liked Hakuouki, even though it just turned into samurai twilight.

>> No.15637368

>>15637307
But the art looks like shit and the backgrounds are piss-filtered brown and bloom garbage.

>> No.15637384

Any good Baldr games soundtrack torrent ?

I tried nyaa but I only found Sky and it's in a FLAC format with all the songs in a singe file.

IIRC I can rip them into individual files with foobar I think, but I'd rather not
I also want Force's OST as well

Anyone?
Thanks

>> No.15637403

>>15637384
Oh nevermind, Foobar did the job for me for Sky.
Still would like Force's OST though, can't find it outside youtube.

>> No.15637413 [DELETED] 

>>15637270
Just get out already

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>>15637413
Let's not pretend chinks are humans ok.

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>this will never be made into an actual eroge
>nor will any game like it with pure girls being turned into succubi
Why live?

>> No.15637450

>>15637439
Bottom left a best.

>> No.15637461

>>15637384
>Baldr Force
Finished it last week

https://youtu.be/KXWZs68hEG0?t=339

One of the hypest parts of the game, for real.
Game was really good

>> No.15637501 [DELETED] 

>>15637422
I would still thank them for making me able to play eroge while laying around on their cheap as fuck tablet.

>> No.15637526

>>15637461
Near the end he sped up the text like crazy How do you read that fast?

>> No.15637560

>>15637413
Are you chinese?

>> No.15637594
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>>15637461
>finish the VN years ago
>oh hey there's an OVA, cool
>first 5 minutes, dudes heads start exploding

>>15637526
Probably replaying, so you have an idea what characters are saying at a particular moment you dont have to read all of it

>> No.15637623

>>15637320
Bump

>> No.15637655

Is S;G the only VN that had a decent anime adaptation?

>> No.15637661

>>15637655
I'd say Clannad After Story was adapted well. Still didn't pass the VN of course but it did what it could for the most part.

>> No.15637722

>>15637655
There's also Tsukihime.

>> No.15637723

>>15637655
Shuffle maybe?

>> No.15637727

>>15637320
try /fa/

>> No.15637751

>>15637723
Shuffle was unbelievable shit because of the heroine choice.

>> No.15637756

>>15637655
Mashiro-iro Symphony was decent.

>> No.15637818

>>15637655
a friend told me the WA2 adaption was better than the VN

>> No.15637820
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>>15637655
Amagami!

...Or so I heard, haven't watched it myself

>> No.15637849

>>15637820
amagami was good, haven't played the vn though

>> No.15637879

>>15637849
What's stopping you?

>> No.15637881

>>15637820
Why couldn't the new game be with this artist instead of 3D

>> No.15637884

>>15637881
3D is cheaper.

>> No.15637886
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>>15637820
She is too cute. I stopped reading so I could finish photo kano but since reco love was delayed I guess I'm not in that much of a rush anymore. Also, anyone else think the reco love delay probably has to do with the photokano sale being too close to the release date of reco love. I mean why buy reco love for 6800yen when photo kano is 999yen.

>>15637324
People come here to echo their memes not read new and interesting visual novels. You would think these threads would be more open but they have their own set of undue prejudice. If it's not eroge and new or "kamige" no one cares, especially for something console only.

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>>15637886
Chillax, dude.
>photo kano is 999 yen
Was it on sale?
Did I miss it?

I have a friend who's crazy about it

>> No.15637900

>>15637884
it isn't

>> No.15637903

>>15637899
you just missed it

>> No.15637904
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>>15637881
I felt the same way, but the photo kano girls grew on me eventually. I am sure they could do some live 2d magic but Enterbrain and Kadokawa hate money. If they had any sense they would have made a photokano/reco love kind of game with ther kancolle girls. I would drop thousands on dlc alone.

>>15637899
Yea it's on sale. Get it now!

>> No.15637908

Am I the only one who thinks Sakura no Uta is a better story than SubaHibi?

That ending.

>> No.15637918

>>15637908
No, Sakura no Uta is better from start to end. SubaHibi is a borderline Lucky Star fanfiction. Sca-ji has gotten a lot better. Also the writing is just better over all.

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I feel an immense kusoge aura from Baldr Heart.

Please wake me up

>> No.15637930

>>15637900
it is

>> No.15637934

>>15637930
Nigga do you know how much programming went to photokano?
Amagami was baby scripting

>> No.15637935

>>15637751
asa is best girl, and yandere kanade is great

>> No.15637943

>>15637900
From what I understand 2D artist can take up a HUGE portion of a vn's budget. Especially if they are well known. Every CG scene is going to cost money, where as with 3d all you need to do is pay a straight off of a maya/autodesk class 3d animator for new poses.

>> No.15637950

>>15637943
No, VAs take up all the budget
Thats the selling point

>> No.15637954

>>15637929
Yeah like the start of Baldr Sky and Baldr Force were any better.

Their entire first routes were shit.

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>>15637934
Photo Kano was janky at best. Enterbrain made magic work with the psp and again with the vita. Sadly they scarified everything just to make it work, frame rate, aliasing, and especially sound quality. I am happy with Reco Love, it just sucks knowing we will never get something akin to Amagami or KimiKiss again.

>> No.15637981

>>15637957
But Photokano runs at 60fps most of the time and consume next to no battery, something most other Vita games can't even pull off. If you said "environment quality" you might have had a point.

>> No.15638012

>>15637954
Sky and Force were good
Also first route from Sky was a huge step up from Force.

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So that's why they call it that (major Amatsutsumi spoilers).

>> No.15638014

>>15638013
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I CANT UNSEEE

SPOILERS MAKE ME CLICK EVEN MORE

FUKKKKKKKKKK

>> No.15638019

>>15638013
i thought this was a moege

>> No.15638024

>>15638013
How is that a spoiler? You weren't aware of that word existing?

>> No.15638028

>>15638014
If that's the only thing you've seen of the game so far, then trust me when I say you don't really know what is happening in this picture so it shouldn't hurt you that bad.

>>15638024
I never really thought too much about the title before now. It was just a cool moment because it suddenly made a lot of sense in the context of the scene.

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Anyone here played the 11eyes VN?
Is it worth playing?

>> No.15638033

>>15638013
>tfw multiple hours and just done with prologue

The music at the end was pretty good.

>> No.15638037

>>15638028
I first thought it might be something like 甘包み, but then realized soon.

>> No.15638043

>>15638037
Really? I haven't open that guy pic yet, but the very thing that came to mind when I saw the title was 天ツ罪

Was I wrong?

>> No.15638047

>>15638029
Nah, I'm not 13 years old so I never played it or Dies irae

>> No.15638054

>>15636600
>How good is Chaos;Child?
The common route and its ending climax were pretty decent, though you may find some parts boring considering how long the main character and co. spend their time figuring out what's going on if you've already played Chaos;Head and know about the Di-swords. Where it also falls a bit flat is in the character routes that you're forced to play through, despite the fact that most of them throw the main plot out of the window and focus on completely different, mostly irrelevant stuff rather than exploring the more interesting main plot from different perspectives. To me the final ending also felt a bit abrupt.

>> No.15638059

>>15638043
You're right.

>> No.15638069
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>>15637439
Also best girl

>> No.15638085

So why is it considered childish to play chuunige but moege are okay?

>> No.15638092

>>15638085
Because who the fuck cares.

>> No.15638108
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>>15638085
It's all about the スルー nigga
Git gud at it

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>>15636600
It's pretty good, dude.

>> No.15638138

>>15638118
It has one of tghe most shoehorned twists I've ever seen, your pic related because damn aside from a couple of conversations it's completely irrelevant.

>> No.15638146

>>15638138
Huh?
What is?

>> No.15638197

>>15638138
If you're going to call the last twist in C;C "shoehorned", you're either baiting, or you severely lack reading comprehension and should pay more attention to what you read.

>> No.15638231

>>15638138
The game in general felt pretty bad with how it handled the murder mysteries and padded out the reveal of certain "twists" considering how central they were for the majority of the game.

I mean Chaos;Head did the exact same thing, and the moment you use actual supernatural abilities as a plot point you can throw in all sorts of convenient, out of left field bullshit explanations. Chaos;Child pretty much half-spoiled how the murders were committed from the get-go due to showing that the perpetrator somehow obviously mind-controlled the victims into brutally killing themselves (though thankfully not the actual murderer), yet so much of the game time is spent with the main characters desperately investigating what the fuck is going on despite the reader already knowing much of this shit from seeing events from different perspectives and most likely knowing the backstory from playing the first game.

Note that I'm not saying you can't have mysteries with supernatural elements, my issue is that the game spent so much repeating and pondering shit that is already common knowledge to the reader. Utawarerumono 2, while a completely different type of game also pulled the same kind of shit with padding out the re-reveal of the first game's main twist that is pretty much common knowledge to the reader.

>> No.15638323

>>15638231
There's no way out of that one champ, IIRC only 3~4 in every 10 people played C;H before playing C;C from a poll on c;c総合 last year

For the people who did, you still got several, well foreshadowed twists, from serika to kurusu and the last one being a really well done and genius twist being hinted so slightly and subtle, but yet multiple times, it was still very well done overall. The game doesn't hold your hand to catch the last twist, but if you're not a complete retard you could at least see that the school wasn't normal, or that Miyashiro was different than others, etc., etc.

My only complaint I think is kazuki's route where they had to end it with a deus ex machina(which I personally don't really like, something that shouldn't be controlled, by the luck of god almighty suddenly becomes controllable, etc.), but I forgive it when seeing the whole picture of the game.

Overall it was pretty good.

>> No.15638412

>>15636600
CH was better.

>> No.15638833

>>15638412
>Chaos Head being better than anything
Dude.

>> No.15638874

>>15634718
>Better than the main heroines
Why did yuzusoft do this?

>> No.15638901

>>15638874

They didn't. It's just the first scene. She becomes a pretty boring uninteresting/normal character afterwards. Gets a LITTLE better in the route, but even then.. nah. Not better than the main heroines.
Kinda funny though. I was pretty worried at first that it's one of those games with better side-heroines than main-heroines. But that's really not the case here I'd say.

>> No.15638949

>>15638901
Huh, I thought she's a main heroine.

She was never really that interesting even in the prologue so I guess there's not much to look forward to.

>> No.15639106

>>15637384
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2460745

Game and ost of Baldr Sky.

>> No.15639166

Anyone here got some time into Amatsutsumi or finished it? What are its strong points?

>> No.15639189

>>15638949

I'm still in the middle of the route, but it's okay. Rather standard and she has some minor moments, but nothing ground breaking. On the flipside this down-to-earth side route has it advantages over the other ones: No main-plot. And from what I've read so far, the main-plot is outside of common just bad. And if you dislike common as well.. oh boy.

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>>15638323
Kazuki is a separate thing since it was exclusively written by Hayashi himself.

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Akari

http://august-soft.com/hatou/gallery.html

>> No.15639317

>>15639314
Her face looks pretty chub.

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>>15639317
She's kinda rounder than others. Also Hotori-chan <3

>> No.15639421

>>15639326

Is this a chubby fetish game?

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>>15639421
Hardly.

>> No.15639491 [DELETED] 

Any nukige about the rape of nanking?

>> No.15639511

>>15637439
Wow, I never realised how much my dick needs this in my life. Is there anything even remotely similar out there?

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Hardly surprising.

>> No.15639608

How do buyers decide where to buy their eroge? I heard eroge come with stuff like posters depending on where you buy them, where can I find this information?

>> No.15639612

>>15639608
Mainly at the two obvious places where that information would be posted.

>> No.15639622

>>15639612
Site of the eroge and site of the store, but checking one by one is tedious as all fuck you know. I was wondering if this info was available in simple and compact lists in some autist's blog like many other things

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>>15639622

>> No.15639646

>>15639629
Well that is so simple now I feel like a complete retard. A grateful retard, thank you.

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Finished 果てしなく青い、この空の下で. While being not as eventful and action-packed, as the follow-up, the game still managed to strike the right notes and sustain the mood of the story. A great deal of scenes were supported only by sounds of rural nature, which helped immersion alot.

>> No.15639975

>>15639602
I wonder which one will sell the most, this or senren banka.

>> No.15640020

>>15639975
It's hard to tell. They'll be close to each other.

>> No.15640036

>>15639920
Could you please share a link on it. It's really hard to find it...

>> No.15640074

>>15635936
First 30 minutes of Muramasa are epic, wtf are you talking about.

>> No.15640081

>>15640036
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=2095864

>> No.15640089

https://twitter.com/mirai_soft/status/761555370762391552

Huh. Is Twinkle Crusaders moving beyond VN guests and adding mobage guests now?

>> No.15640106 [SPOILER] 
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Chaos;Child spoilers

Man, fuck this. I fucking hate you guys, I am in shock and feel like I am about to vomit.

I'll abandon the thread though. I need to sleep.

>> No.15640216

Planetarian HD and Rewrite+ are out.

>> No.15640220

>>15639975
If Senren Banka sells more I will lose all hope for the industry

>> No.15640259

>>15638323
>There's no way out of that one champ, IIRC only 3~4 in every 10 people played C;H before playing C;C from a poll on c;c総合 last year
Or, they could just have decided to make a proper direct sequel without pandering to newbies who haven't experienced the first title in the series and mention that to new players (this way you encourage people to get the first title in the series as well). Or if that's not an option and they wanted a reboot / something easily accessible to new audiences in the same setting, created the plot so that the same common twists are revealed early instead of being recycled and drawn out in the sequel, as otherwise like I said it gets pretty damn dreary for players of the previous titles. Fuck, even the protagonist and main characters themselves were based on mostly same archetypes.

As a result I only found myself truly enjoying the game towards the end, with many other parts feeling like long-winded padding. Most of the supposedly shocking murders, mysteries, human experiments and conspiracies didn't feel that shocking when you already knew this stuff or could easily guess the tricks based on the information you were already provided in C;H. Like you said the game did provide its share of good new twists and plot developments as well, but the path there takes too damn long.

>> No.15640265

>>15640216
Care to provide a link of Rewrite?

>> No.15640269

>>15640220
It could for all its worth.
Yuzusoft manged to receive a lot of good publicity for Sanoba Witch so Senren Banka should probably sell more.
August on the other hand dragged Daito for too long. And it had a disastrous anime too.

>> No.15640271

>>15640265
Search for it you lazy fuck.

>> No.15640274

>>15640265
https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=2095852

>> No.15640302

>>15640269
Clearly August is オワコン, just like pals on BBSPink say.

>> No.15640315

>>15640274
Why is it on sukebei when the VN is all-ages?

>> No.15640320

>>15640106
Okay, now I am gonna kill myself.

>> No.15640324

>>15640315
Because CLANNADは人生.

>> No.15640326

>>15640274
Thanks.
>>15640271
I'm too lazy even to fix >of.

>> No.15640339

>>15640216
>Rewrite+ size is 14 GB
I didn't play the original or checked its size before, but what the fuck? Why is it so huge?

>> No.15640342

>>15640339
Cause the torrent also includes Harvest Festa.

>> No.15640355

>>15640269
Was Sanoba Witch actually good? I don't remember Amairo getting too much praise either.

>> No.15640385

>>15640355
Amairo received quite a bit of bashing. That's a reason why Sanoba Witch sold noticeably worse than their previous games.

>> No.15640399

>>15639314
cute!

>> No.15640490

>>15640385
I only remember reading how one girl's route in Amairo was bad. Didn't know the rest of the game was also shit, or that it affected Sanoba's sales.

>> No.15640501
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Far and away more enjoyable than Dies. I wish somebody would translate Irae just to disillusion all those gullible fools.

>> No.15640509

>>15640501
If your IQ is below 100 maybe.

>> No.15640512

>>15640501
It was pretty bad not to mention the MC being as bland as it gets.

>> No.15640533

>>15640490
Dracu-Riot's sales were at 2693 TG points.
Amairo's sales were at 2830 TG points.
Sanoba's sales were at 1966 TG points.

Even with market contraction, possible inaccuracies and other shit this is still a quite extreme drop.

>> No.15640551

>>15640512
Ren had his ass handed to him every fucking fight. I'd go with blandness over a punching bag any day.

>> No.15640597

>>15640081
Oh, thank you.

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Why do the Japanese suck at english so much?

>> No.15640612

>>15637818
the first part is pretty much perfectly adapted yes.
But that's because it's linear and pretty short introduction chapter.

>> No.15640626

>>15640600
Because their language is really far from English grammatically and syntactically.
Also their English classes suck because they base them on the idea of translation instead of communication and understanding.

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>>15640600
but they're great at english and portraying gaijin

>> No.15640665

>>15640600
It's all about passing tests and throwing their copybooks into a trash can after it.

>> No.15640760

>>15639920
Can I play these game out of order?

>> No.15640768

>>15640600
why do you suck at japanese so much?

>> No.15640769

>>15640768
wow rude

>> No.15641041

>>15640600

It's a self-perpetuating cycle: They're terrible at English because they get exposed to lots of terrible English.

They also approach English in much the same way that western normies approach kanji. That is, it's just some cool foreign thing to them. Does an American normie care if some Japanese guy thinks that he looks retarded with his name tattooed to his arm using kanji? By the same token, a Japanese writer who's just using English for its exotic appeal doesn't care if some American guy thinks that he sounds retarded with his terrible English.

>> No.15641200
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15641200

>>15640768

>> No.15641248

>>15640600
Eroge writers intentionally write in terrible english.

>> No.15641258

>>15640551
Did you even read Dies Irae? Because that statement is literally false.

>> No.15641282
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15641282

For people who are keeping up with Koihime don't forget to get the +PLUS part of the 123+PLUS release

>> No.15641359

>>15639317

Shame the rest of her body doesn't match.

>> No.15641411

>>15640600
It's not love, but so where near.

>> No.15641432

>>15640600
Where leads to feeling destination.

>> No.15641463

>>15641200
How is this game? I like how the artist draws eyes but it's not enough of an excuse to pick it up

>> No.15641625
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>>15641463
It starts alright, starts getting rather interesting, and then goes to complete shit at the last third.

In short, here's the problem: most of the game builds up to some nasty stuff (Meguri, your non-blood related sister, being the one who killed Reina, the blondie) and then drops it at the last minute in a way that just reeks of the writer going "oh crap, no, that's too heavy, we can't let that be the truth", and as a result all the foreshadowing goes down the toilet. Add to that the fact that the characters act like complete morons at the end when the game dumps a wall of explanation in the space of 30 minutes and you've got the recipe for a story that will leave you angry.

The worst part is that if they had just gone through with the climax that had been building up the entire game, it would have been pretty decent and had a surprisingly dark twist which would directly tie in with the title. Meguri's past of abuse and her attachment to her super yasashii nii-san are perfect excuses for her being slightly bonkers, and the drama involving him and Reina and the fact that she was planning on starting their relationship again was an acceptable excuse for pushing her over the edge. I actually liked Meguri quite a bit, but the end of the game really brought all 3 characters down a lot. One way in which the writer tried his hardest to avoid the dark twist was how both the protagonist and Meguri say that they killed Reina. Protagonist thinks he killed her indirectly, Meguri flat out says that she killed Reina. Oh, but wait! Turns out they didn't kill Reina, they "killed her feelings", fooled ya! No, I'm not making this up. We can't have our heroine be a killer, can we?

Anyway, I could probably write several posts worth of whining about how many problems this pile of dicks has, but I'll refrain from doing so. If you're interested in trying it regardless, you can rejoice at the fact that it's a short game with a single route. You get to fuck both girls, but you end up with your sister, who is definitely a cutie stuck in the wrong game.

>> No.15641648

>>15641625
That actually sounds like it starts off rather interesting. I have a thing for heroines with traumatic pasts so I might read it just to see at least a yandere character that makes sense.

>> No.15641700

Thoughts on Furuiro Meikyuu Rondo?

>> No.15641705

>>15641258
It's true for most of it. Did you read it? In like the entire first 2 routes the only guy he actually wins against in a straight fight is the spider guy.

>> No.15641840

So anyone here finished Floral Flowlove or one of the heroine routes? Any more impressions?
I played the trial and the plot didn't interest me but the heroines except for the main girl were good, so Iam wondering if it's worth it.

>> No.15642126

>>15641840
I finished Aoi's route but that's hardly a proper route compared to the others, the main conflict of the route not being solved puts a real damper on the route.

>> No.15642315

>>15640600
The fuck does this supposed to mean?
Does anyone able decipher the Japanese out of it?

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>>15639511
Anyone? Anything?

>> No.15642591

>>15642566
Sorry famalam this is the best I got https://vndb.org/v17849

>> No.15642597

>>15642566
No sorry, unless you want to delve into Dlsite RPGmaker terrible games, I'm sure there are some with this fetish.

>> No.15642625

>>15642591
>imouto already a succubus
Why dog.

>>15642597
Yeah the two village of nightmare games are about the closest thing I know of to something like >>15637439 but I already played the two.

Fucking tasteless elevens making more generic NTR shit instead of the masterpiece >>15637439 would clearly be.

>> No.15642631

>>15642597
>Terrible
Some are rather decent.

>> No.15642638

>>15642625
The imouto and the succubus are different personalities and the succubus wakes up for the first time in the beginning of the game

>> No.15642701

>>15642638
Yeah but she was already technically a succubus then right? It's just not the same.

>> No.15642710

>>15642701
Yeah, you're born one but the powers stay concealed until you become sexually aware and/or find out what sex is.

>> No.15642735

>>15642625
Not succubus specifically but there should be plenty corruption games.

Have you tried asking in /hgg/? Tons of machine translators but they do know about RPG maker games with obscure fetishes.

>> No.15642748

>>15642735
Yeah I know of most actual corruption series like venus blood or yami no koe or kansen or whatnot, but something like >>15637439 where it's more warm-hearted seems basically non-existent.

>> No.15642845

How long does the stock of eroge last on average? If I try to buy a game from 5 or 6 years ago will they still have it with original price and tokuten or only secondhands? Also does the price inflate as the remaining number of copies decreases?

>> No.15642933

Man the July lineup seems pretty stacked for charage/vanilla games. Nothing amazing seems to have come out but a lot of playable to decent games.

I'm having moderate fun with アマツツミ, it's the first in a while to get me hooked.

>> No.15642939

>>15642845
Unless you are looking for really obscure old games, most games with tokuten will sell for 40-70% of its original price from my very limited experience.

I know some games are very hard to come by, like Kusari hime and Katahane and they sell for quite a bit if you are looking for the original version for some reason. But 5-6 years should be fairly easy to find games.

>> No.15642944

>>15642933
Not 100% finished yet, but I'd say アマツツミ was okay in the first few routes, but the final one has been really enjoyable for me so far. I hope it ends on a good note.

>> No.15642991

>>15642944
>just finished first part and opening played
>haha time to actually go into my favorite character's route
>第二話 朝比奈 響子

This is going to take a while isn't it?

>> No.15643007

>>15640760
Yeah, but you would be better off reading the first installment first.

>> No.15643026

>>15642991
Are you saying Kyouko is your favorite or just that that's whose part you're at? It's linear except the points where you branch off into routes, so if your favorite is ほたる as mine is, then you have to go through everyone else's parts before you get to her's.

>> No.15643032

>>15643026
The latter, of course.

Was kinda disheartened when it happened but eh, hope it's not too bad.

>> No.15643526

>>15637655
ef anime was better than original vn.

>> No.15643561

>>15640600
Because that's not English, but Engrish, part of Japanese language.

>> No.15643895

>>15643561

In order for this to be true, the primary purpose of its existence would need to be to communicate words with clearly understood meanings between a group of people who are speaking Japanese at the time.

I don't buy that. It doesn't follow a consistent set of rules, and can be outright impossible to decipher, regardless of your level of fluency with both languages. The argument that the large number of Engrish loan words in the language don't count as Japanese is impossible to defend, of course, but this is because they communicate a message that's very clear to other Japanese listeners. The primary purpose of stuff like that "sentence" isn't to communicate with words and have the reader fully comprehend what those words mean, but rather, just to be present as cool foreign shit that sorta resembles that thing that the target audience took classes in at one point in their lives. They don't really care if the sentence itself is nonsensical. That's not the point.

Engrish sentences are not a subset of the Japanese language, any more than the kanji that all of those EOP blue collar workers have all over their arms are a part of the written English language. It's there to look cool, and that's the only message that it cares about sending.

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Man, Yoshino's route barely had anything going for it but fuck, even I felt really fucking happy for her ending.

>> No.15643949

>>15643895
yuo sim to nt udnstradn hw ntarral lngauges wrok

>> No.15643954

>>15643895
Engrish is used for decoration, not for communication. It is intended solely for Japanese people who speak Japanese language. They don't speak English and don't care about it at all. Japanese just take cool looking words from around the world and use them as they want. This process is not related to whatever language those words was borrowed from at all. It is a matter of internal Japanese aesthetics only. Gaijin scum can scram, nobody cares.

>> No.15643960

>>15643954
So you essentially agree with him then.

>> No.15643991

>>15643960
Of course not. He is essentially saying that, for example, decoration parts of the sword are not part of the sword because they don't serve the purpose of the sword - slashing/thrusting/protecting hands. This is plain retarded.

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15643997

>Something unexpected happen
>Protagonist goes ええええぇぇぇぇぇぇぇ?!
>Uninstall.exe

>> No.15644008

>>15643991
Ehh by this logic all of the English language is part of Japanese since it can be made into Engrish. Using your analogy I would say you're putting your sword in a decorative, gilded sheath and calling the sheath a part of the sword.

>> No.15644141
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15644141

Do you guys have suggestions for PC-98 eroge that aren't the more famous ones?
Doesn't have to be something you played, it can be just something you randomly saw and thought looked interesting.

>> No.15644148

>>15643949

You're following a structure that's understood by your fellow English speakers. The only thing that you did was switch around the spelling of some English words to something that's different but close enough to be recognizable for our English-speaking brains to figure out which words are actually being represented.That is not what the Japanese are doing, and I have to wonder what kind of stupid thought process led you to try to tie those two things in together.

They'll put nouns and adjectives where the only thing that makes sense is a verb, throw in random conjunctions and breaks, fail to use conjunctions and breaks where they make sense, and use words with ideas that are completely random given the circumstances. It's not a foreign language that looks like English either; this doesn't follow any kind of structure at all.


>>15643991

Formal languages communicate using words with clear meanings.

When you have sounds that have no meaning by themselves, you're looking at vocals being treated purely as music. When you have something scribbled down that doesn't communicate a message using words which are clearly understood by both parties, you're looking at drawings. Notice how the English-speaking community refers to Chinese characters as "moonrunes". That's what language is to someone who doesn't understand the language. It's music and pictures, purely abstract.

They are imitating a language (English), but that doesn't mean that they're using it as an extension of their own language.

I'm sure that someone here is stupid enough to give the following response, so I'll just go ahead and make it for them so as to not time-

>DURRR DURRR U JUST SAID THAT VOCALS IN MUSIC CANT BE FORMAL LANGUAGE

"A might include B; A, therefor B" is a fallacy. Vocals in music might be formal spoken language, however, vocals that project an abstract atmosphere rather than a concrete spoken message are also a staple in music. Consider when a vocalist goes "AaaaaAAAaaaaA". Here's not screaming because he's scared or sighing in relief. He's contributing his vocals to the song in an entirely abstract manner.

That's basically how they're approaching English in their media. It's just music and pictures with a cool foreign atmosphere.

>> No.15644150

>>15644141
Shinnew's VNDB page

>> No.15644210

>>15644148

>all of those typos
>after I fixed a bunch before hitting the submit button

I hate how much my focus has been slipping lately.

>> No.15644296
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http://www.akabeesoft3.com/products/gusya/

Akabeesoft is doing a full-fledged lolige? Seriously? I don't even know what I should think of it now but it's a bit worrisome to see this many boys on the teaser art.

>> No.15644303

>>15644296
That's cool, I wish we got more lolige that aren't nukige. Art and characters seem a little bland though... and what's with the fat kid?

>> No.15644304
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15644304

>>15644296
Asami Asami is clearly having some problems with loli body proportions too.

>> No.15644337

>>15644296
>it's a bit worrisome to see this many boys on the teaser art.
Because of NTR?

>> No.15644339

>>15644296
>>15644304
The heads and faces don't really match the bodies

>> No.15644344

>>15644303
>>15644304
>>15644339

Honestly, looking at his other stuff, I don't know that I'd quite put him down into "generic VN artist" territory, but he's not far above that.

I'd be perfectly happy if the loli fad stayed in 2004 where it belongs.

>> No.15644366

>>15644344
I'm not even a lolicon, but I'd take them over cowtits. I'm fucking tired of poorly drawn cowtits especially in pure love games.

>> No.15644372

>>15644337
Yeah. They are using a new scenario writer too. Or it may be a new pseudonym for one of their scenario writers.

On the other hand it is directed by Nakajima Taiga. I hope he won't do something stupid.

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What's the butthurt about ヤリチン protag?

>> No.15644393

>>15644388
It's almost as disgusting as second-hand goods.

>> No.15644399

>>15644393
But it's supposed to be a self-insert. So the self-insert can't be too good an successful or some faggots can't handle it?

>> No.15644402

>>15644296
Protagonist is second from the right, of course?

>> No.15644403

>>15644388

Because people enjoy their random dude who puts tons of "effort" and gets loved by everyone to the point it feels like some cultish worshiping. All the while he insists to never have done anything special. (which is mostly correct of course)

>> No.15644411

>>15644402

Nah second from left. Even the typical pose.

>> No.15644414

>>15644339
You noticed it too? Those heads and faces are quite a bit out of balance with bodies.

>> No.15644428

>>15644399
It's extraordinarily hard to self-insert when personality and behavior of the protagonist is too far-fetched from beliefs, values and ideals of the player.

>> No.15644439

>>15644414
Yes, the face in >>15644304 is exceptionally bad. Lolis are obviously not Asami Asami's strong suit

>> No.15644465

>>15644296
Hey, lolis worked for Lose, right?

Akabeesoft really seems desperate these days, just throwing everything at the wall in hopes something will stick.

>> No.15644481

>>15644465
Treating buyers nicely by organizing countless events for them, giving out tons of free shit and having crazy production values worked for Lose.

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>>15644366

I'd be happy if every game had girls with cute faces/hair and cowtits, with a few smaller chested girls present as side characters only to bolster the cowtits by providing the "less attractive friend" effect. It kind of lessens the appeal a little when you have cases like Senran Kagura, where there are five girls in the scene, and every one of them is equally huge. Big breasts are best when there are small breasts in the vicinity to act as a contrast.

The cute face/hair part is important. One of the things that I hate is that when you're dealing with a cast that has varied breast sizes, there's a bit of a tendency to give all of the otherwise cute girls smaller breasts and give the larger breasts to the blandest designs in the cast. I also notice that whenever they get it extremely right, the closet cases always, without fail, complain that it seems like the character should have smaller breasts.

tl;dr: The best case scenario is to have an adorable ball of busty soft fluff surrounded by flat chicks that make her seem even cuter and sexier by comparison.

>> No.15644495
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15644495

>non-stop discussion of tits and lolis and other such mundane, primal shit
God, don't you guys ever get bored with yourselves?

>> No.15644497

>>15644492
My condolences for your shit taste.

>> No.15644503

>>15644481
Mimasu isn't concerned with minor details like that. Just keep adding more annoying DRM and surely the buyers will flock to you.

>> No.15644509

>>15644492
>tl;dr: The best case scenario is to have an adorable ball of busty soft fluff surrounded by flat chicks that make her seem even cuter and sexier by comparison.
Agreed

>> No.15644511

>>15644465
Akabeesoft is or at least was a quite big company for the eroge market. A big company means a lot of expenses.
They are probably desperate to keep the shit running as it was running before when they clearly don't make games that sell as good as they were selling some time ago.

They also took a tremendous reputational and even financial hit with the Juukishi fiasco and its aftermath.

>> No.15644520

https://twitter.com/laplacian_info/status/760023471829069824

>> No.15644523

>>15644511
That and most of their talent left the company and their last big star's reputation is tarnished and doesn't sell as well as he used to. They're a ghost ship, drifting along with no direction until they finally fall apart and sink.

>> No.15644534

>>15644520
Well that's a much better way to handle the situation than most, was the debut work any good?

>> No.15644535

>>15644520
How nice.

>> No.15644554

>>15644296
kek

>> No.15644558

>>15644520
>分析データによれば某Torrentサイトから多くの方が来ているようです
How do they figure this out?

>> No.15644560

>>15644558
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_referer

Unless you block it, anyone knows where you came from.

>> No.15644561

>>15644558
Referer HTTP-header, obviously.

>> No.15644563

>>15644511

>Juukishi fiasco

https://vndb.org/t5324

Did I just wander onto kiwi farms by mistake? Because that OP is reading a lot like a thread from that site.

>> No.15644564

>>15644558
>How do they figure this out?
Its easy with trackback technology

>> No.15644587

>>15644563
It gets better if you delve into it and read the original 2ch threads. Akabee is an absolute clusterfuck internally.

>> No.15644637

>>15644587
It's quite obvious that they always were clusterfuck internally and they are using somewhat shady schemes for a while now because they always create a lot of small independent companies and then merge them together into a new big company arbitrarily to only create a load of new affiliated companies again.

>> No.15644659

>>15644534
Honestly I havent tried it yet with real life sucking away most of my time lately but it was on my watchlist because of Shigure already since announcement.

>> No.15644815
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15644815

So this was Emitsun too?

>> No.15644834

>>15644815
Is that going to affect the fandisc? That'd be a bit annoying.

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>>15644834

>> No.15644856

>>15644815
Yep. Favorite probably decided to change her to cut away that connection to Emitsun. That's a wise decision.

>> No.15644865

>>15644856
Seems she still is the main heroine in Hanahime Absolute. Perhaps too late to change.

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15644870

>mfw I see EOPs

>> No.15644879

>>15644870
>mfw I see DJT fags

>> No.15644886

>>15644815
What happened anyway?

>> No.15644896

>>15644865
She is not main heroine there. Just a regular heroine.
And with the amount of delays Hanahime went through, her recording probably was finished long before all that shit broke loose.

>> No.15644897

>>15644815
Is this because she was in AV? Why does it matter?

>> No.15644927

>>15644897
It matters because using her damages the brand reputation.
And she doesn't want to do eroge-work anyway.
She fucked feng over when she quitted in the middle of the recordings for Imouto no Seiiki last year.

>> No.15644940

>>15644927
I understand if it was anime or something but you're already an impure whore if you're voicing ero-scenes, not like doing AV in the past makes any difference.

>> No.15644953

>>15644940
Some people have a hard time separating 2D from 3D it seems. Doesn't really bother me since the VA is not the character.

What she did to feng, however, does piss me off.

>> No.15645007

>>15644148
>applying formal language theory in jp
go back to your automata class, first-year

>> No.15645122

Which game is the kamiggest?

>> No.15645152

>>15645122
お隣の黒人夫に抱かれて啼き悶える最愛の妻。 その引き換えに味わう黒人妻の肌。 -Big Black Cock & Big Black Butt & My Sweet Wife-

>> No.15645160

>>15645122
Turning the Chad Who Cuck’d Me Into My Sissy Bitch

>> No.15645169

>>15645007

I had no idea that was any kind of academic term.

Language is a broad idea. Anything that communicates is language. Hitting a drum is language. Drawings are language. A handwave is language.

I'm referring specifically to spoken human languages with words and sentences, and written representations thereof. They're formal languages, because they have a fairly complex structure (they can't communicate so many different ideas clearly otherwise), and when we say "languages" without context specifying otherwise, this is generally what we mean. Traditional, heavy on the structure... formal.

>> No.15645208

I remember when /jp/ had its own nukige thread. So what is the last nukige you finished? What is your favourite nukige? What are you looking forward to?

>> No.15645218

>>15645169
>human languages with words and sentences, and written representations thereof. They're formal languages
No, natural languages are not "formal languages".
No, natural languages do not have formalized strict structure.
No, words in natural languages do not have well-defined meaning.

Stop posting ridiculously stupid shit, go read stuff on "formal languages", "natural languages", "natural language processing". Also you may check some textbooks on computational linguistics and problems associated with that field.
You can't even imagine how much effort was put into attempts to build formal definitions for English and English words and how little we could achieve. We have stuff like WordNet now, but we are very far from making this shit work in real world cases.

>> No.15645257

>>15645169
Its funny because you use many terms from the academic fields of languages (from a computer scientist point) which however ambiguate between "natural languages" and "formal languages", the latter being defined over having a precise definition in terms of syntax and semantics.

Language is also just defined as "a set of words" whereas as word is just a concatination of abstract symbols representing whatever.

>> No.15645295
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15645295

Dear Baseson, I'm really greatful for this Yue & Ei episode since they're pretty much my favorite heroines, but why the hell Mii's route got 8 fucking CG while Yue & Ei duo couldn't get even a single non-h CG? Also, why the hell Ei's h-scene ended with just a footjob, at least let them have sex for fucking sake.

>> No.15645316

>>15645218

So far, the only thing that I've seen from you is an appeal to authority, which is a fallacy when you don't provide a relevant argument to support it.

If you're >>15643949, you also attempted to counter-argue by using something that was completely irrelevant to the problem, which suggests that you either don't know much about the topic other than that it exists or that you're not smart enough to sort through what's relevant and what's not when approached with a problem.

I'm not sure that you're qualified to call me ridiculously stupid.


>>15645257

What I was worried about is that I was using the argument "it's music, not language". However, music is a form of communication, and thus a form of language. So it is technically a kind of language, it's just not words and sentences, if you define these things as clear expressions of ideas.

>> No.15645333

>>15645316
Go fucking read definitions of "formal language" and "natural language", you cretin. There's no need to have argument over it, these are well-established concepts with centuries of research behind them.

>> No.15645353

>>15645295
Why, this is disgusting. Foot fetish is an unbearable abomination of mankind. The only thing I can possibly think of regarding legs is to put them up it's owner ass.

>> No.15645356

>>15645353
Just show us where those feet touched you on the graph anon.

>> No.15645396
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15645396

Well memed.

>> No.15645398

>>15645353
Don't be a baby.

>> No.15645499

How is Reminiscence? The one by the AkaGoei writer

>> No.15645510

>>15645499
The main route is nothing short of brilliant, but after it I just stopped.

>> No.15645516

>>15645499
Pretty bad. Only thing his games have going for them is the comedy.

>> No.15645547

>>15645499
Routes are really underwhelming

>> No.15645550
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15645550

>>15645396

>> No.15645692

>>15644520
That's strangely nice for a Japanese company, I actually feel like buying it. Although we'll get discriminated against either way for being gaijin.

>> No.15645721

>>15645692
I hope you realize you sound like a nigger.

>> No.15645831

There's always far more games I'm interested in than I can ever actually play.
When I do play something it feels like I can never get through it fast enough and have to fight the temptation to start something new before finishing the current game.

>> No.15645835

>>15645721
https://twitter.com/nekoten_yuuna/status/432341621682606080
https://twitter.com/nekoten_yuuna/status/409261592828583936
https://twitter.com/nekoten_yuuna/status/409261850455314432
https://twitter.com/nekoten_yuuna/status/409221857187872768
https://twitter.com/nekoten_yuuna/status/409221685397561344
https://twitter.com/nekoten_yuuna/status/262960914481946624

>> No.15645845

>>15645835
> one crazy racist represents all japanese

>> No.15645847

>>15645835
And to think minori now sucks EOP cock like crazy.

>> No.15645927
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15645927

>>15637934

>baby scripting

Well, half true but also half false IMO. They did all the text in script for the game game. But they practically built an interpreter/VM for bytecode also in the scripts. That's not really easy since they put everything besides essential low level stuff like memory and graphics functions in the bytecode, which takes quite a while to accomplish.

That being said, it's not great programming. They use garbage collection in the game and they got lazy with memory stuff in the game. So the backlog doesn't work when we try and put English in the game because of some memory allocation stuff which we are still trying to figure out. Oh and Mahjong in Ebikore+ doesn't work either with English. Kimikiss has the same engine but we've done nothing to the game other than discovering that fact.

Photokano has better programming in the sense that they put a 3-D engine in the game and actually use the proper Sony APIs to give you text so you can play the game with an emulator and a text hooker. Reco Love seems to be on track with reusing that engine.

>> No.15646108

Anyone know how strict Japan is with torrenting eroge? I'm going to a Japanese university next month and don't want to be kicked out, deported or arrested for downloading a fucking porn game.

>> No.15646114

Seeing all the Japanese IPs in any eroge torrent, I'd say not very. Still, I'm using a seedbox myself. Why risk anything?

>> No.15646214

>>15644492
Except almost everything has a main heroine with a pair of cowtits and a moderately thick body, and the smaller breasted characters are introduced later or are side characters altogether. However, the effect is more like "more attractive friend" because they made you wait out the "oh yes of COURSE it is another bland as shit cow!" period before bringing in all the tasteful designs.

>The cute face/hair part is important
This is very true, which is why it's even more important that there are no cow tumors and molding shirts to distract the viewer from them.

>> No.15646233

>>15646214
Don't understand why people in this thread hate cowtits so much. Personally I like both small and big boobs.

The only shitty size is average size.

>> No.15646246

>>15646233
They don't. People who like cowtits are just much more content and therefore don't post about it as much despite being the majority.

>> No.15646263

>>15640600
Could it be, that they had been racking their brains for ours, before squeezing out this sentence correctly?

>> No.15646311
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15646311

>>15646263
Forgot pic.

>> No.15646412
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15646412

>>15646233
I feel lolicons are just very vocal and touchy about this subject.

>> No.15646432

>>15646246
>>15646412
Yes, you mean the people who "don't post about it as much" were totally not responsible for bringing up the subject out of the blue like >>15644344, or going into autistic bouts like >>15644492, or dropping a "why is flat so shit" every couple of threads?

I've never seen flatfags stirring up anything unless there's already a catalyst.

>> No.15646483

cowass > cowtits

>> No.15646534

>>15646432
What I don't get is why people enjoy warring extensively about which boob size they prefer. You're never going to convince the other side, and the sme amount of games is going to be produced no matter how much you want cowtits or lolis gone.

>> No.15646765

>>15646432
Sorry desu I don't pay much attention because I like all tits (although I tend to prefer larger)

Ya'll should learn from your eroge protagonists

>> No.15647372

>>15646233
All sizes could be great. I used to dislike cowtits, but Waffle had me convert.
Its shape and proportions are what important, cowtits shouldn't look out of place on heroine.

>> No.15647602

>>15647372
>Its shape and proportions are what important, cowtits shouldn't look out of place on heroine.
This is very true. I used to prefer big tits (and I might still do now, as I spent the last 2 weeks looking them up; or maybe they just have that wanking value), but I've converted fully to smaller sizes over the years due to the realization that 2D art try to exaggerate them far too much, throwing believable shape, form, proportions and physics out of the window as long as their size reaches a certain threshold, and do everything they can in both the presentation (impossible garment) and the writing (oops you tripped and landed on 'em) to remind the viewer about them.
It's less of a natural dislike and more about the pent up frustration that people rarely ever get them right. Eroge is even more of a lost cause because the artists tend to be mediocre.

>> No.15647772
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15647772

How does Senren Banka compare to Yuzusoft's other titles?

>> No.15647777

>>15647772
I liked their last game a bit more overall for whatever reason, but it's definitely one of their better releases.

>> No.15647829

>>15646483
>cowass

Big and angular?

>> No.15647865

>>15647772
What a cutie. Does she have a route?

>> No.15647888
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15647888

>>15647865
Gee, I dunno.

>> No.15647899

>>15647888
Thanks for indulging my laziness, anon.

>> No.15647908

>>15647772
I'm enjoying it so far and much more than I ever enjoyed Sanoba, that's for sure. It's pretty much the standard Yuzusoft flavor, so if you liked any of their previous games you'd probably like this one as well.

>> No.15648004

>>15646114
Since from the way you are posting it seems that you're in Japan, mind if I ask the seedbox you're using is good enough in Japan?

>> No.15648134

>>15648004
What do you mean?
There is no difference in using seedbox in Japan, Europe or US.

If it is on a decent hosting network, speeds would be high enough almost anywhere around the world.

If you are fine with setting stuff yourself then get a vps from leaseweb or other decent hosting provider who does not mind piracy that much and use it as a seedbox.

>> No.15648331

>>15648004
Not that guy but I live in Japan and just torrent shit anyway, though I buy most of my stuff so I usually don't need to. I don't seed new releases and I don't upload things publicly, though.

I should probably get a VPN or something but I'm lazy.

>> No.15648474

>>15648134
I see, thanks for the info.
I'm not tech savvy, so I thought a seedbox would be somewhat like a VPN, where if the server is far away the connection would go bad. Heck I may even be wrong about that.

>>15648331
It's just that the university dorm I'm going to live in has a rule that I shouldn't use a P2P software, saying that they monitor network utilization at all times and "Traffic generated by major peer-to-peer software is blocked and monitored on campus." If a seedbox or VPN would circumvent that then I want to get one.
I wouldn't want to risk getting kicked out of school for torrenting.

>> No.15648479

>>15648474
I guess I should mention that I'm not the original guy who asked about torrrenting eroge in Japan.

>> No.15648501 [SPOILER] 
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15648501

What the hell. How did she know? (Amatsutsumi spoilers)

>> No.15648521

>>15648474
>if the server is far away the connection would go bad
It's not as easy. Connection quality is proportional to the network quality in the whole path of connection. With large distances connection might have to go through multiple networks and some of those might be overloaded or generally bad. This is what impedes the whole connection.
Large data centers which are used for hosting usually have enough connectivity to various huge networks so connections will always have some kind of a fast path no matter where you connect from.

Of course there is also a speed of light limitation but it matters only for delay-sensitive applications. It does not have any sensible impact on a regular file downloading.

>> No.15648642

>>15648501
Original a cutie.

>> No.15648643

>>15648642
She made me harder than any other girl.

>> No.15648652

>>15648642
I'm at a part with a lot of her right now and I would have to say I agree.

>> No.15648659

Anyone know where Sakuuta's save file is on Windows 10? The readme said " WindowsVista/7/8/8.1
   C:\Users\ユーザー名\AppData\Roaming\オレンジエール\さくらにかげつ\," but I don't see the folder in win 10.

>> No.15648693

>>15648659
>さくらにかげつ

>> No.15648701

>>15648659
>オレンジエール
>さくらにかげつ
That's obviously for the wrong game.

Sakuuta is based on BGI so savedata should be saved in in the BGI.gdb file and the UserData folder located under the game path.

If you installed into Program Files then it will be at %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\<BRAND_NAME>\<GAME_NAME>

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>>15648693
>>15648701
Well, that makes a lot of sense. I'm dumb.

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15648711

>>15634718
Just had my roomate telling me this game is from the same makers of Snow, which was a great game imho, played it when I was young and cried like a little bitch.

Is that one decent? I havent touched yuzu soft's games since Dracu Riot years ago

>> No.15648717

>>15648711
Kinda dull I guess, like most yuzusoft games, really.

>> No.15648726

>>15648701
>%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\<BRAND_NAME>\<GAME_NAME>
lol windows

>> No.15648745

Major Amatsutsumi spoilers: I think seeing Original struggling with cancer is having a bigger impact on me than it would have in the past, as I just lost my grandfather to cancer last month. Have any of you ever had an eroge make a big impact on you due to any certain event that has happened in your life?

>> No.15648766

>>15648726
Yeah, in the new versions since Vista/7 they tried to make the whole system more sensible and secure while keeping compatibility to the badly designed software and in the end it resulted in a total mess. They had to create an incomplete overlay filesystem that gets triggered on writing to some locations like Program Files because some software writes user data and setting there instead of properly using %APPDATA%.

>> No.15648835

Was I memed on when people said that CrossChannel was one of the best, if not the best visual novel of all times?
I just finished it and while I can say it was relatively enjoyable it didn't feel all that great. Dragged a lot. The ending was pretty good but the middle felt quite boring and the only thing that kept me going was Taichi. His supporting cast is shit.

Everyone said that prose was the reason that you read Romeo but this felt fairly standard fare. I didn't like Rewrite too much either. Is Romeo overrated?

>> No.15648839

>>15648835
No.

>> No.15648844

>>15648835
Yes.

>> No.15648849

>>15648745
>Have any of you ever had an eroge make a big impact on you due to any certain event that has happened in your life?
できない私が、くり返す. Same reason.

>> No.15648850

As Azarashi-soft promised, they are making a fandisc of Amakano; http://azarashi-soft.nexton-net.jp/amakano+/

Personally I'd prefer a mixed FD which have both of first and second games' heroines, but still I'm looking forward for this.

>> No.15648858

>>15648850
They'll probably release a fan disc for the second game next year or the year after

>> No.15648859

>>15648835
Only Moogydrones like him
2ch makes fun of him quite frequently

>> No.15649011

>>15648859
>2ch makes fun of him quite frequently
That means as much as "/jp/ makes fun of him quite frequently"

>> No.15649040

>>15649011
He is not called there ブランドクラッシャーロミオ for nothing. His game don't sell.
He even have called himself 害虫ライター on some occasions because of that.

>> No.15649052

>>15649040
Sales have literally no relevance to an author's quality, and I hardly think being wryly aware that things don't go well for his games is really "making fun of him". Are we going to call James Patterson and his legion of ghostwriters the best writers of all time?

>> No.15649121 [SPOILER] 
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15649121

Well this is unexpected, I thought no one would die in this VN

>> No.15649130

>>15648850
more kazane is always good

>> No.15649135

>>15649121
>spoiling image
>don't tell in filename or post what you're spoiling
C'mon

>> No.15649137

>>15649121
Somebody always dies in better baseson games

>> No.15649197

>>15649121
You fucking faggot.

>> No.15649198

>>15649135
Oh sorry, my bad

>>15649137
Is あっぱれ!天下御免 worth reading?

>> No.15649217

>>15649198
No, Don't subject yourself to that

>> No.15649235

>>15649198
No. There's some good heroines like Echigoya, Mitsuki, Yuka, Hajime, Eimi and Jubei but even they aren't worth playing the game for.

>> No.15649250

>>15649198
Definitely dont play the appare series. It was very bad even for a big baseson fan like me.

>> No.15649303

>>15649217
>>15649235
>>15649250
Is it really that bad? What a shame, I really like when VN have huge cast of characters

>> No.15649314

>>15648835
You didn't remind us, that the text could have been reduced to twice its size. So much fucking repetition.

>> No.15649321

>>15648835
Same here. I thought it was a solid 8/10 but have no idea why people consider it kamige material.

Maybe it was different in 2003.

>> No.15649325

>>15649303
>Is it really that bad?
What do you think of a game where almost all of the character interaction events are completely ignored in the main story?

>> No.15649335

>>15649325
And there wasn't a fucking chronological order in them, for example first you see a character event where she is pretty familiar with MC, then at the main story they return to the being completely strangers point, then ichaicha again, stranger again etc.

Also making a route for every character certainly didn't help either.

>> No.15649339 [DELETED] 

>>15649335
>Also making a route for every character certainly didn't help either.
It would have been alright if the game was about 5 times longer and they put some effort into the routes

>> No.15649344 [DELETED] 

>>15649339
That was sarcasm right?

>> No.15649355

>>15649325
>>15649335
How could they mess up that badly?

>> No.15649384
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15649384

Senren Banka finished. (-Rena, but I'm not bothering with that)

The 1080p is quite nice, with mostly good artwork to back it up. The OST is also pretty good here and there. Nothing too superb, but for an eroge it's definitely quite far up.

Aside of production values, the game also features a mostly really likeable cast. I'd say all of the heroines are pretty well done, the side-heroines a bit less but that's fine. The protagonist is unfortunately every now and then a bit on the shitty side.
With all that in mind, the common route was quite enjoyable.

But then the problems started. The character routes.. are barely good at best.
Yoshino (miko) was fine. The plot was terrible here and the ending pretty much as well, but most of the "cute" scenes worked.
Mako (ninja) was probably the best route. Still terrible plot and final part and Mako is also more fun outside of her route.
Side was fine until it branched to the individual parts which was done extremely poorly and rushed.
Murasame (sword) was utterly terrible and frustrating. Wasting too much time on a status quo ending with "I couldn't say anything.." or "I don't know what to do..". Irritating as fuck until you get the resolution(s) which are just awful as well. Then you got the "protag = messiah" among other stuff. This route had potential and some cornerstones of the story behind it were quite fine, but it fucked up more or less completely I'd say. Also is it just me or die Murasame sound like she's suffering in her sex-scenes? At least the background moaning. I skimmed through most of them.

Common(8)>Mako(7)>Yoshino(6)>Side(5)>Murasame(4) = Overall 6/10

Pic related are best girls outside of their routes. I also don't know what to think with them being generally comfy with the topic of sex and such.. until it concerns them. Is this also part of the purity fetish or something? In case of Mako it's so extreme she has the (utter garbage) trope of "I'm sooo dirty p-please don't hate me :((((" in sex-scenes too. Fuck that shit.
In the end unfortunate. It had quite enjoyable parts, but all routes (mostly except common) there was always something that fucked things up. As such it's hard for me to recommend. As likable the girls are, that just kinda makes it worse as you'll end up playing more routes...

>> No.15649415

>>15649384
>-Rena, but I'm not bothering with that
Kill yourself.

>> No.15649560

>>15649384
tl;dr

>> No.15649654

>>15649384
>Rena, but I'm not bothering with that
Why would you skip the most plot-relevant route?

>> No.15649781

>>15648501
Man I really hope she doesn't die at the end, I cant stand one more after the Hapymaher's certain someone. If somebody already finished with the game, feel free to spoil me.

>> No.15649818

>>15649781
Just read it.

>> No.15649861

>>15649818
If I can finish Pretty x Cation 2 & Senren Banka before the August releases I will, if I cant probably it'll wait at my backlog for a while.

>> No.15649868

>>15649654

That part was by far the worst in all the other routes. So it's not exactly a positive argument for playing her route in my eyes.
And the stuff the eroge does well.. I'm not interested in seeing with her.

>> No.15649949

>>15649384
I've never been able to gone further than main routs in their games. It's really sad, that their cool visuals always go to waste.

>> No.15650041

>>15649949
They need a better writer.

>> No.15650114

>>15650041
Fuck you. All that matters is art.

>> No.15650127

>>15650114
Just look at the CG set then. Why bother to read anything.

>> No.15650166

>>15650127
Voice acting adds a lot to the experience, dawg. Not to mention the Tachie.

>> No.15650180

>>15650166
Hmmm yes hearing almost the same 3 VAs every game really makes reading through 30 hours of shit worthwhile.

>> No.15650195

>>15650180
>reading through 30 hours of shit worthwhile.
>reading
Woah, what? Reading? No, you skip the worthless righting to get to CGs and stuff. Have you actually been READING these *visual* *games*? That's pretty embarrassing, senpai.

>> No.15650235

>>15650195
I'd expect nothing less from an EOP such as yourself.

>> No.15650303

So what is the best game of 2016 so far, jp? Do you think its a good year (so far), or is it shitty to your tastes?

For me its a little better than average with Island, Akeiro Kaikitan, Maitetsu, Sengoku Koihime X, Noraneko Heart, Amatsutsumi and Senren Banka releases. If there were something worth of play at May & June it could be even better, but still its enjoyable at least for me.

>> No.15650319
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15650319

Cooooooooooooool.

>> No.15650331

>>15650319
I'm from DJT too

>> No.15650347

>>15650303
From what I've actually finished (to some degree) this year, either Island or Amatsutsumi.
I've dropped most stuff for either failing to keep me interested or shitty, uncalled for drama.

>> No.15650358

>>15650303
It's a great year, but too early to recap. Most major releases come out in the next few months.

>> No.15650367

>>15650358
>too early to recap.
Well, he said too far

>> No.15650375

>>15650347
Sell me on Amatsutsumi, what does it do well?

>> No.15650396

>>15650303
Been busy as hell at work and wasting remains of free time on dmm mobage, so could finish only some nukiges and old backlog stuff like Baldr Force.

>> No.15650410

>>15650358
Anything looking good besides Baldr Heart, Senmomo and D&D?

>> No.15650526

>>15650410
I'm not >>15650358 but there's Gin'iro Haruka, HanaHime Absolute and new Alcot / Smee / Asa Project games, at least they are what I'm looking forward.

>> No.15650544

>>15650410
Utaware3

>> No.15650581

>tfw we will never get a vn as good as Muramasa again

>> No.15650617

Sakura no Toki when?

>> No.15650668

>>15650581
And what exactly is good about it?
Explain it to me because I never got interested in it no matter how many times I tried looking at its website or screenshots. It does not look attractive in any way.

>> No.15650680

>>15650668
lol

>> No.15650692

>>15650668
How about you try reading it?

>> No.15650728

>>15650581
sakuuta is better

>> No.15650796

>>15650692
I'm pretty sure I'll be disappointed even more.
It clearly looks like a chuuni game that tries to take itself too seriously.

>> No.15650808

>>15650319
I'm in Japan in September but I'm returning before that gets released. Otherwise it would be the first time I buy an eroge.

>> No.15650816

>>15650796
It has a protagonist that isn't a faggot high schooler.

If that alone doesn't make you at least someone interested, you have garbage taste and Muramasa would be wasted on you anyway

>> No.15650881

>>15650816
I'm totally fine with high schoolers in my eroge and I do enjoy high school settings quite a lot.

But that callow name calling about taste is for sure the most distasteful thing possible and it does not give Muramasa fans any positive points, quite the contrary actually.

>> No.15650898

>>15650881
>it does not give Muramasa fans any positive points, quite the contrary actually.
Third party. Judging a work by its fans is illogical and shallow-minded.

>> No.15650911

>>15650881
Says fucking retard that posts shit to bait others.

>> No.15650944

>>15650898
Yes, it is. But impression given by fans is sure a factor in how your perceive some work. Different works attract people with different mindsets after all.

>> No.15650951

>>15650911
I haven't tried to bait anyone. Sorry if I offended you in some way.

>> No.15650962

>>15650944
>But impression given by fans is sure a factor in how your perceive some work.
It shouldn't be. It isn't for me. If it is for you, you have a problem.
>Different works attract people with different mindsets after all.
That is not necessarily true. Works can be enjoyed by a wide range of people. Not to mention, even if that was a hard, reliable rule, a *single* person being rude online would be far from enough to make any sort of judgement on the work.

>> No.15651077

What's a good relatively short moege? Looks like all the popular ones like AoKana, Clover Days and HoshiOre are super long.

>> No.15651084

>>15651077
Tonakoi

>> No.15651097

>>15650962
I kinda doubt you're able to completely isolate yourself from being affected by your opinions on other people. You're probably just not noticing how it affects you.
Of course it's not a major factor by any scale. It won't change anyone's opinion to the directly opposite one. But it sure can reinforce your existing opinion or raise some kind of self-questions regarding it. I think you should have experienced similar phenomena and you should notice it when it happens even if it happens subconsciously most of the time.

The problem with Muramasa is that it's not just one person. Almost every person who worships it as the best thing ever will label you with the "garbage taste" if you even remotely enjoy high school settings, cuteness or something along those lines. It's almost like they all are members of some kind of brainwashed cult and it's outright scary to be honest.

>> No.15651154

>>15651097
I used to experience that as a child, but as I grew up I realized how baseless, illogical, and ultimately silly the practice is, so I no longer do today, to any capacity at all. When a fan of X acts like an idiot, even when a group of fans of X act like an idiot, I think "that guy/those guys are idiots" without even thinking for a second that X is in any way bad or responsible or relevant. It's plain illogical. It makes no sense. It doesn't hold up to critical review. It's a childish bias that should by all means go away as one grows up and realizes how consistently foolish it is.

The second part of your post leads me to believe you don't understand how many people troll and how many people react excessively not only on this thread but in life in general. Yet another thing you should learn to do is learn to differentiate between thoughtful, genuine opinions and some dude shitposting online about a popular video game. If you consider people trolling online to be "outright scary" then you really must be inexperienced with the internet. Judging works by their fans is foolish enough on its own, but judging works by trolls and jokesters is even more foolish.

>> No.15651164

>>15651077
Fureraba

>> No.15651197

>>15651084
Thanks. Hows Satsukoi by the same company? The winter theme looks comfy

>> No.15651201

>>15651197
What winter theme?

>> No.15651223

>>15651197
Try Amakano if you want a good moege with comfy winter theme, Satsukoi is not the game you are searching.

>> No.15651236

>>15651223
Amakano isn't short

>> No.15651261

Is Otome Domain actually any good?

>> No.15651284

>>15650668
>And what exactly is good about it?
It's hard to say anything without spoiling the main plot since some notable twists are already revealed relatively early on (hence why you should just try it out yourself), but I personally think the game manages to nail almost all relevant aspects of a good VN really well; main plot and writing style, memorable characters, graphics and soothing music.

Voiced adult protagonist who is genuinely one the most pleasant, reasonable and nicest characters I've encountered in eroge.
Alternate history occupied Japan with scifi/magic battle suits and much attention paid to world building, some philosophy and political intrigue.
Very verbose, blood-pumping battle scenes (aside from the first chapter's kind of crappy Tsurugi 101 tutorial).
Heroine routes focus on different ways of perceiving killing and war, complementing the game's main themes.
Most of the time actually hilarious humor instead of just the trite, recycled shit you see in most eroge.
Striking hot heroine designs with memorable personalities and motivations.

The weakest part of Muramasa is easily its first chapter, as there's quite a load of initial infodump relating to world history and Tsurugi (the mech battle suits) fighting and flying mechanics, delivered by less interesting cast of characters, but after it the game becomes quite a roller-coaster. Also regarding your later posts if you really want to know about people enjoying Muramasa; I'm someone who enjoys both heavy plot and pure moe games and I also originally picked Muramasa half-expecting it to be overrated, overly "edgy" game trying too hard to be serious with cheap shock value, but were very pleasantly surprised.

>> No.15651292
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>>15651197

Satsukoi is like 1mb or something.

But... it's NOT a moege. At all. I mean the title somewhat gives that away already I suppose. You die. No way around.
Other than that it's okay. The later chuuni parts were kinda meh to bad, but it had some good parts, and the comedy parts were pretty good in my book. Though it's also one of those plots that kinda contradicts itself later on and seems rather.. weird once you see the whole picture.

>> No.15651306

>>15651292
>The later chuuni parts were kinda meh to bad
They were carried by the pretty good battle song, really. I liked the last one.

>> No.15651401

>>15651292
How to look up script sizes? How big is Amatsutsumi?

>> No.15651618

>>15651401

I don't think there's a site that has up to date numbers. I just tend to calculate it for the works I play myself, as I'm interested in it. It's not super accurate but it's enough for me. (I use the backlog and/or skipfunction with the help of a hooker as well as usually extrapolation)
As such I unfortunately don't know how long Amatsutsumi is.

>> No.15651649
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>>15651261
Its cute and egs seems to like it
Personally it kunda gets old with cliches but having a trap pritag kinda puts things in a different way.
They don't act like a dick like most other MCs

>> No.15651654

>>15649384
Rena's route was the best and most plot oriented by far, I suggest giving it a go even if you don't like Rena, she's more relevant than you think. It's feels like the main route as it explains the meaning behind the game title, japs agreed.

>> No.15651673

There are people here who don't think Elina is the best yuzusoft character

>> No.15651680

>>15651649
Its score seems to have dropped quite a bit though. And it feels like most positive things people say about it is regarding the art. Is the scenario just fluff?

>> No.15651702

>>15651680
>Is the scenario just fluff?
That's redundant, it always is.

>> No.15651771

What eroge has the cutest girls

>> No.15651787

>>15651771
That is subjective.

>> No.15651837
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15651837

>>15651787
Cant find that

>> No.15651866

Anyone have any favourite bookworm/lonely heroines? Went through the tags on VNDB but my god that list is hard to sort, the characters are just lined up alphabetically and nearly every game is shitty cheap nonsense. Any recommendations?

>> No.15651953

>>15651866
What kind of lonely heroine do you mean?
A heroine who like to be alone or a lonely heroine who want to make friends?

>> No.15651982

>>15651953
Either way is fine, since they warm up to MC.

>> No.15652000

>>15651953
Actually, I prefer the former, now that you mention it.

>> No.15652013
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15652013

>>15651866
>>15652000
Nonsense game, but The Lewdest

>> No.15652053

>>15652013
I've heard a lot about Spooky Pregnant School but I'm not really looking for a nukige, the sex is always really killer in regards to immersion

>> No.15652063

>>15652053
I dunno, suit yourself. Even there I enjoyed listening to her rant about old witch customs around the world while spilling spaghetti.

>> No.15652319

>>15651284
> relevant aspects of a good VN
> Very verbose battle scenes
Chuunikids are fucked in the brain.

>> No.15652335

>>15651197
It was pretty serious for an Alcot work if I remember correctly.

>> No.15652360

>>15652319
I'll expand on a possible perspective with the knowledge you're probably trolling.
After playing Narahara's games, with their verbose fighting scenes, pretty much every other game that utilizes action just seems pathetic. With Hanachirasu and Muramasa, every move matters and has meaning, it's all intense and satisfied precisely because it's legitimate and described in its full complexity. Although a 15 second fight scene may be described over 15 minutes of narration, every sentence adds detail and nuance to the fight that makes each one memorable and unique in its own way.

In comparison, games with short and concise action are just friggin dull. The movements don't really matter because the winner is largely determined by either arbitrary power levels or by whoever the author wants to win. It's hard to feel genuinely excited about action when its so meaningless. Even when the author does their best to make genuine duels without delving too far into powerlevels or some such, it still ends up being either pathetically simplified or just plain dull, or more likely both. It's just impossible to care about a swordfight that is predicated not on actual swordfighting or anything meaningful but rather on... nothing. Just two dudes swinging swords or superpowers or whatever without any rhyme or reason or what have you, just to satisfy the necessity of two dudes fighting in the plot. So lame.

In short: Verbose battle scenes add meaning and depth to combat which tends to be dull and shallow in more "fast-paced" battle scenes.

>> No.15652388

>>15652360
More LN/VN writers should read wuxia and emulate its style when it comes to writing fighting scenes.

>> No.15652390

>>15652360
I've actually played muramasa myself, till the fight after meeting with elves. And its "very verbose battle scenes" that made me drop it and forget about it. I'm not interested in verbal diarrhea of some sword-ota ossan.
> games with short and concise action are just friggin dull. The movements don't really matter because the winner is largely determined by either arbitrary power levels or by whoever the author wants to win
Except, that's exactly what happens in Muramasa. Not even single time outcome of fight was decided by what was happening during it. Enemy suddenly power ups when he was almost killed => Protag suddenly power ups when he was almost killed => Some cheap ass-pull of last moment decides outcome.
While short and proper battle scenes are played properly: every character makes single turn and outcome is decided fairly, no last-moment asspulls and deus exes.

>> No.15652394

>>15652360
Not him, but the battles were the worst part of Muramasa. I just could not bring myself to give a shit when a single fight goes on for hours. Tell me they fought, tell me who won, and get the fuck on with it.

I wish I weren't so autistic so I could've just used the ctrl key.

>> No.15652398
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>>15650375
Hotaru.

>> No.15652405

Why do you take png screenshots

>> No.15652406

>>15652405
Because they're smaller than .bmp.

>> No.15652412

>>15652406
jpg is the ideal size:quality for most anime images

>> No.15652422

>>15652412
Jpeg is lossy. PNG isn't. They're in fundamentally different categories.

Why use lossy compression when hard drives are as big as they are? No need to compromise in 2016.

>> No.15652426

>>15651097
I haven't even played Muramasa, and while I feel like there's nothing at all wrong with liking high school settings and the like (I enjoy them most of the time myself), but if you don't at least think something without that is a breath of fresh air, then I don't know what to say.

>> No.15652439

>>15652422
The quality difference is pretty insignificant, especially considering the size difference, and it's mainly just a matter of politeness - a lot people will be downloading the image so the smaller file size the better for both 4chan's servers and everyone reading your post.

>> No.15652453

>>15652439
I mean, I upload as heavily compressed .jpg too for that reason, but the question was about "taking" screenshots, not posting them. I take all my screenshots as .png and convert if necessary.

>> No.15652463

>>15652453
I see your point and agree. I don't think most people convert like that though.

>> No.15652611

>>15652398
>still on Kyouko 3
Suffering. I feel like I couldn't bring myself to care about this spirit-seeing miko and her childhood tragedy at all.

>> No.15652623

>>15652611
Yeah I know what you mean. I was only in it for Hotaru from the beginning, so getting there was a bit rough. Just finished last night, and while a couple of minor things annoyed me, it was definitely worth it overall.

>> No.15652721

Just started ever 17. It seems kinda bad. The art, the writing, the translation, the girls, and the premise. None of it seems anything but mediocre. Am I missing something? Why is it so highly rated?

>> No.15652763

>>15652721
>Am I missing something?
You didn't play it 10 years ago as an EOP when we had nothing better to play.

>> No.15652970

>>15652426
This. I was in no way implying that you shouldn't enjoy high school settings. Just that you should be intrigued when a protagonist is actually something different.

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15653065

How many of you have girlfriends?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10941912

>> No.15653251 [DELETED] 

Is there any reason to get an r4ids.cn card if I already have a Gateway blue card updated to Wood 1.62?

>> No.15653343

>>15648711
Got curious about that Snow game from this post and decided I would give it a shot, but I can't seem to find any good downloads. Does anyone know of any good torrents for this game? Two are on nyaa but one is dead and the other stalls at 23%.

>> No.15653440

>>15653343
https://pan.baidu.com/share/link?uk=472914198&shareid=1343214489

>> No.15653448

>>15653440
Thanks anon! Not to be a nuisance, but how do you go about locating VNs on baidu? I have their client downloaded already from past downloads, but how does one determine whether a random VN is on baidu?

>> No.15653457

>>15653448
I usually do some googling with term "pan.baidu.com" for various possible combinations of game names, file names, release dates, and directory names.
Also bing is surprisingly good at indexing baidu. Google often hides results from there.
I sometimes want to just learn Chinese already because it will make it much easier to navigate there.

>> No.15653463

>>15653457
Alright, thanks. I'll try out bing next time I have trouble.

>> No.15653467

>>15653463
Also please tell us how interesting the game itself will be.

>> No.15653496

>>15653467
I'm not sure exactly when I'll start playing it. Probably within the next couple days, but maybe not. But I'll make sure to post what I think about it when I do.

>> No.15653567

>>15653457
clever, but do the chinese use the original title or their own translated one?

>> No.15653598

>>15653567
Usually original. They sometimes use their translation as well.
It's not like it matters that much anyway. Of course it's not possible to always find the link there even if it's uploaded somewhere.

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>>15652319
>>15652390
>Chuunikids
>Not even single time outcome of fight was decided by what was happening during it.
Muramasa isn't chuuni as I understand the word, or at least there's not too many out-of-ass powerups that weren't foreshadowed before nor is the protagonist and his special mecha some sort of a death machine who is easily able to plow through legions of regular goons. Saying otherwise is plain out lying. Only major exception I'd say is one specific character, 銀星号 in general and the related very silly final battle in true route.

For those who haven't played it, basically put the battles of the game work a sort of like "sword fights with airplanes" while in air, and more like regular sword fights while on the ground with the two getting mixed every now and then. The related physics and other relevant "rules" are explained relatively early on in the game (maybe even too much as the first proper battle's infodump is kind of dreary), and are used consistently from there on. In fact one route in particular expects you to pay attention and make regular VN choices in a few battle scenes based on what you've learned before about air and sword fighting, or making educated guesses based on other factors. The game even jokes if you pick some chuuni bullshit like "sixth sense" as a counter-strategy.

The mechs themselves, while they're separated into 数打 (purely mechanical, most of the time lower quality used by non-characters) and 真打 (sentient and come with certain bullshit magitech powers), the latter aren't some sort of nigh invincible destroyers stealing all the limelight that I originally expected them to be, since aside from their certain powers they're restricted by the same general rules of flight and sword-fighting, meaning the battles against skilled 数打 users are also treated as big deals from the get-go.

In short, battles wise Muramasa is a fresh break from the regular anime battle cliches and sudden "finding your own hidden power" moments (with few exceptions as mentioned before). The writer really paid attention to world building, not only in history and background but also in making up a believable system for fights.

>> No.15653940

>>15653934
Sometimes there are works of fiction where you feel that the author has honed his skills for his entire life just to bring that story to reality. I felt it with Tolstoy’s “War & Peace”, got a glimpse of it in Dostoevsky’s “Crime & Punishment” and got completely overwhelmed by it in Full Metal Daemon Muramasa. From the authentic-sounding ancient Japanese prose, to a meticulously constructed alternate history of early 20th century and carefully researched martial arts of real samurai; you simply can’t make a story so vast and this profound unless you sacrifice majority of your life researching and contemplating the subject matter. Muramasa is a masterpiece, and it sends shivers down my spine just imagining what Narahara Ittetsu, a certified master of ancient Japanese martial arts and by no means a professional writer, had to go through to bring this grand work to life.

>> No.15653946

>>15653940
Calm down, Conjueror.

>> No.15653994

>>15653940
I feel this is the main difference between those who do enjoy Muramasa and those who don't.
For a lot of people emotions are much more important than this overly pedantic approach to narration.

>> No.15654003

>>15653496
Can you upload the game to Mega or sth once you're done downloading? I'm having trouble with baidu links.

>> No.15654013

>>15653994
Even emotions in poorly written games get trite and boring real quick. Vapid writing, vapid emotions.

>> No.15654031

>>15653934

Chuuni just means (as far as I know):
-A small group fights something "supernatural" with their own "supernatural" powers, but most people don't realize this happens
-Usually the protagonist needs to be special in SOME way

Everything else is more or less open. It doesn't even have to be battle focused or anything. Something like Sekien no Inganock qualifies as chuuni as well.
The idea behind chuuni is just the "special snowflake" style. The character is special and unique in some ways and fights something most don't even realize exists. The "wish" to be suddenly in something different than the boring everyday life. This idea is taken as a (usually serious) story where the protagonist is in exactly that position, by choice or not.


That said, while that's the idea, the "chuuni genre" got a few more common traits in eroge over the years. And one is definitely "adult themes". Gore, sexual assault, death of heroines.. such things aren't too rare in eroge chuuni games I feel. Fate Stay Night is probably one of the most commonly known chuuni works, and shows quite nicely what different directions that can go with its three routes.

>> No.15654033

>>15654003
I'm seeding this torrent now: https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=667587
Grab it.

>> No.15654041

>>15654033
OK, thanks.

>> No.15654066

>>15654031
I'm not sure if you were being ironic with that post but chuuni doesn't mean that at all. Did you even google it before saying that?

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>>15653994
>For a lot of people emotions are much more important than this overly pedantic approach to narration.
Are your perhaps implying Muramasa doesn't have its share of emotional moments or a good plot and that people only praise it because of "style"? Even if you don't like longer than usual verbose fight scenes, there's plenty of investigation stuff, philosophy waxing, drama, heroines with good characterization, action, political intrigue, humor scenes, good production values etc. that I'd assume most people consuming VNs or any other fictional media are capable of enjoying, hence why I was trying to argue the fact that Muramasa manages to nail many relevant parts of a good VN right in >>15651284

Despite people who haven't played it but have heard about the "kamige" status falsely assuming that Muramasa is some sort of edgy and constantly verbose mech game focusing mainly on battles (probably partly due to the fact how much people praise them), much of the game time is actually spent with other types of plot and character interactions as well. Not saying that you're one of those people, I was describing my own initial expectations before actually playing Muramasa.

>> No.15654136

>>15654066

You may confuse a chuuni character with the genre. Those are two different things. You don't need a chuuni character as the lead in a chuuni story.

>> No.15654150

>>15654136
To sum it up chuuni characters are those who would definitely enjoy works of the chuuni genre.

>> No.15654156

>>15654136
>>15654150
Not convincing me you know what it means mate.

>> No.15654159

Muramasa is good, but it's still no SubaHibi.

>> No.15654161

>>15649384
>>15651654
+1. I agree with most of your other points so I think you would enjoy Rena.

>> No.15654167

>>15654159
lol

>> No.15654172

>>15654167
>having a different opinion than me

lol

>> No.15654188

>>15652721
every bit of praise comes from a plot twist at the end.

>> No.15654243

>>15654188
I liked Sora-route much more than any of the plot twists at the end. They felt so fucked up to be honest.

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>moege awards
I did not know there was such a thing.

http://dlsoft.dmm.co.jp/list/article=keyword/id=7434/

>> No.15654567

>>15654540
there's a whole website!
http://moe-gameaward.com

>> No.15654585

>>15654567
Maggot Baits is on one of those lists, and I'm pretty sure that's not a moege.

>> No.15654601

>>15654585
http://moe-gameaward.com/prize/2015/feti.html#p01
It is a moege. Just read the comments.

>> No.15654617

>>15654585
Sorry dude but why do you make posts like that without even reading about the organization?
The awards are for all anime-art VN type games that get submitted pretty much. The title of "moege awards" is just snappier.

>> No.15654759

>>15654585
where did it rank? Each month there's a 1-10

http://moe-gameaward.com/ranking/index.html

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>>15654759
It's among titles which received one of the awards last year: http://moe-gameaward.com/prize/2015/index.html

>> No.15654785

>>15654759
It's ranked 42 in the year poll ranking: http://moe-gameaward.com/annual/2015.html

>> No.15654790

>>15654759
5th for November 2015.

>> No.15654889

Anyone knows the difference between 32 and 64 bit .exes on VNs? I have a 64 system and launched both at one point, but I see no differences.

>> No.15654897

>>15654889
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/32-bit-and-64-bit-explained.htm

>> No.15654944

>>15654889
Are there really any VNs with 64-bit executables? Could you give some examples? I haven't seen it yet.

>> No.15654971

>>15654944
Amatsutsumi

>> No.15654975 [DELETED] 

>>15654944
Yeah the only ones I know of are DJT Sexual Language Learning Geemu and DJT Eop Game

>> No.15654985

>>15654975
What the fuck? What does DJT have to do with anything?

>> No.15655004 [DELETED] 

>>15654985
What does your favorite thing have to do with a discussion about you? Seems like a retarded question to me.

>> No.15655012

>>15655004
Seek help.

>> No.15655018

>>15655012
What kind of help? I don't quite get what you mean.

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>>15654774
Ahh I see it. It came in 5th for the month of November. That's hardly exceptional.

>> No.15655021

>>15655004
I don't understand you at all. I received N1 years ago and I haven't visited DJT even once for more than a year probably.

>> No.15655025

>>15655018
Psychological.

>> No.15655031

>>15655021
I'm pretty sure you have. Either you don't remember it or you are lying. Have you had any blackouts recently? Did you just find yourself in the middle of doing something with no recognition of past events?

>> No.15655044

>>15655031
Nope, my memory is clear enough to remember such things.

>> No.15655051

>>15655044
Then you are clearly lying to about 140 people. How does it feel?

>> No.15655069

>>15655051
I'm certain that I'm not lying. I don't understand what the hell is wrong with you and those 140 people probably don't understand it either.

>> No.15655079

>>15655069
You, sir, have committed a logical fallacy by claiming support of 140 people who probably haven't even read your posts.

>> No.15655084

>>15655079
Seek that psychological help soon, EOP.

>> No.15655100

>>15655084
>EOP
This is another marker of a serious disease. And to make things worse I think it has progressed quite rapidly without you even noticing it.

>> No.15655136
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15655136

>>15654567
>Rorolog 4th place
Well, It was competing against Miagete Goran and Suzuhira Hiro

Still ... I'm sad.

>> No.15655146

>>15655136
It was crap though.

>> No.15655161

>>15655136
I can't believe I wasted my time reading this piece of shit.

>> No.15655221

>>15655146
>>15655161
Oh I have no idea yet how it plays, I'm basing it solely on art.

>> No.15655229
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15655229

>>15653946

>> No.15655282

>>15655229
If you live Conjueror so much, why didn't you buy his EOP release of Tokyo Babel?

>> No.15655304

What non-nukige VN have trap heroines that you sex up, mixed with normal girls? I noticed it's either a nukige, or it's all traps and no girls.

>> No.15655339

>>15655304
Isn't Happiness' Jun the quintessential trap heroine? It just got rereleased with emote too.

>> No.15655590

>>15655282
EOP kek Conjueror reddit eop lol games vn game love sex

>> No.15655630

I've been looking for the source of these VNs :
>>>/wsr/169607
>>>/wsr/169612

If anyone could help I'd be grateful. You can answer over there as to not spam here if you wish so, either way is fine. Thanks!

>> No.15655642

>>15655630
Try asking on >>>/b/

>> No.15655645

>>15655630
https://vndb.org/v16906
https://vndb.org/v14392

>> No.15655665

>>15655221
The art was the worst part.

>> No.15655667

Does /jp/ vn community have official discord?

>> No.15655682

>>15655667
Nope, but we have an official subreddit it's called /r/vntranslations

>> No.15655716

>>15655667
/jp/ is anonymous for a reason you circlejerking faggot

>> No.15655757

New

>>15655756

>> No.15655815

>>15655716
I'm asking nicely you fucking nerd. Discord layout is nice and it's more fun to talk about shit there.

>> No.15655818
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15655818

Tfw the game literally starts with this.

>> No.15655869

>>15655815
Go cocksuck moogy or someone like that on Twitter, you might get invited to their Dickord.

>> No.15655900

>>15655818
cant see shit, capn.

>> No.15655901

>>15655645
Cheers anon.

>> No.15656151

>>15655304
That one game by Leaf I believe.
Hoshi no Ouji-kun or something to that effect.

>> No.15656745

>>15655869
>moogy
Is that what your pimp goes by these days?

>> No.15656898
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15656898

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