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15609033 No.15609033 [Reply] [Original]

I don't see (m)any TPDP threads on here, let's change that...unless the reason is because they're typically on other boards, in which case, I apologize.

>> No.15609074

I never really understood why it's on /vp/ myself. I haven't played it, although I've been strongly considering it.

>> No.15609080

Yeah, I thought I heard something once about /vp/ trying to run off TPDP threads, and I kind of get it. They make more sense being made on /jp/.

>> No.15609125
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I've suggested them making the threads in /jp/ a few months before, but apparently /jp/ (or so I'm told) doesn't like TPDP threads either, though /jp/ is less hostile. There used to be a huge clamour concerning the presence of TPDP threads in /vp/—some fag even whined about it in /qa/ before—but it seems that the commotion has subsided now, if not completely abated. However, with the frequent waves of official leaks you shouldn't expect the threads there to stay up long anyway.

>> No.15609163

True, way too much hype surrounding the new Pokemon games to keep anything else going there.

>> No.15609180

Why not just make a thread on /v/? I've seen and participated in TPDP threads on /v/ before. They weren't too bad.

>> No.15609214

Well, the thead's up, so what may as well discuss it here.

>> No.15609253

I wish PDP had some cameo characters like Puppet Play 1.8 did. Nothing ridiculous, just characters from stuff ZUN was involved in, like VIVIT and Isami Asama.

>> No.15609294

Yeah, that would be neat.

>> No.15609899
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Heading off to Makai.
I'm a tad bit overleveled.

>> No.15610397

How much updating has this game had?

>> No.15610831

Is the translation for the expansion completed?

>> No.15610839

all the important stuff needed to play the game is translated (moves, abilities, interface, stuff like that), but the story isn't

>> No.15610852
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Cute puppet team you got there.

>> No.15612123

It's not consistent. The last time a thread was posted in /v/ it was completely hijacked by shitposters halfway through.

With Pokemon Go and the new Gen 6 leaks taking over /vp/, here is probably the best place for this at the moment.

Quite a bit. The game is at version 1.103 and has had multiple balance passes, as well as a lot of bugfixes and minor QoL changes.

>> No.15612346

Is doing a solo run of shard of dreams feasible at all?
Trying to think of interesting challenge runs or ways to get more content out of the game until the full TL patch arrives
Debated solo-ing with Orin cause moxie but quad water weakness is kinda shitty

>> No.15612406

Translate the expansion now please.

>> No.15612574

How do you transfer your previous game's save into the expansion? The option to continue is grayed out.

>> No.15612578

It hasn't happened up until now, so it ain't gonna happen at all. That much should be obvious.

That being said, does it have a speed up function yet? I don't have enough time in my life for a grind based game that ma makes me wait 5 seconds before every encounter.

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>> No.15613107

Any cheesy touhou in this game? Something like Spiritomb with Wonder Guard?

>> No.15613209
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This is my dream team

>> No.15613527

How do I release a puppet? I got duplicates that I don't need.

>> No.15613573

hina does that

>> No.15613587


i still dont know all but those are some gmmicky 2hus i use

>> No.15613629

waht are some good build for medicine puppet

>> No.15613703

please help me

>> No.15613748

um put some moves and evs on her ok

>> No.15613755
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Went to post my team, discovered I may have accidentally deleted the game when I thought I was deleting an extraneous copy of it.

Fuuuuuucking hope not. I was pretty far in.

>> No.15613805

walking around SDM with no idea of what to do after talking to Patche. Flan has flew by occasionally but I have no leads

>> No.15613812

find remi dude

>> No.15613819

Look up a map and it becomes obvious.

That place sucks. I hate mazes.

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looks like I did delete it, but the save data was still around


>> No.15613854

>pretty far in

>> No.15613857

thank you! i dont know why but i assumed this game wouldn't have any maps online but i found one

>> No.15613860

christ I'm in a bad way

though I see why I didn't go rest; my Kogasa is still at 100

There are literally only 5 parts of the game left out of like 22.

If that's not far in, I don't know what is.

For the record, I haven't really been grinding.

>> No.15613884

yes using walkthrough in this extremly hard game is needed haha

>> No.15613890

It's really only SDM and I don't blame him.

Like SDM is not a hard area. My Kogasa steamrolled literally everyone and thing in the way without taking any damage, but the layout of the place is deliberately fucked. I wandered it for far too long before giving up and checking out a map.

>> No.15613893

There was always a TPDP thread up on /v/ until someone complained enough to get it moved to /vp/

>> No.15613894

I remember the original game upon release was insanely hard. Did that change? I think the biggest wall was SDM.

>> No.15613898

I think the biggest wall is the first parts of the game.

It IS hard. It's UNFAIR how hard it is. After a while you'll get better stuff but it's CRUEL at the start. Especially Reimu. Reimu seems impassable at first.

The game also loves to pull bullshit on you in favor of the enemy. It can get annoying.

>> No.15613901

i bet you dont beat bamboozling thicket by yourself
i bet you dont went to baku zone either

>> No.15613906

I cheated the thicket, yes.

No regrets. I'm not playing these things for puzzles.

>> No.15613924

Is the expansion actually stand-alone? Or does it incorporate the original game? As far as I can see I installed them in two different folders, but I don't remember ever starting the expansion .exe.

>> No.15613933

>does it incorporate the original game
Yes, and changes quite a few things.

It's not exactly "separate".

Like, the story is a bit different, there are a few new areas, the LoLK cast is in, and there are gameplay adjustments.

>> No.15613941

I see. So the original is obsolete then?

>> No.15613949


I mean, I don't know HOW the story changes, for example. But sure, if you know Japanese or are willing to use a text hooker you should probably be fine with just playing the expansion.

>> No.15613994

6/6, Impeccable team

>> No.15614007

>6/6, Impeccable team
my thanks, you've a good eye

>> No.15614008

>rating teams that arent for comp

>> No.15614010

Who are you quoting?

>> No.15614014


>> No.15614056

if you thing sdm is hard maze wait for midget castle

>> No.15614669

Being a completionist, I found Hakurei Cave to be more nightmarish than SDM. Halfway in, I decided to just book it to the exit instead of searching for every item.

>> No.15614797

Between this game and Touhoumon Purple, which do you think is better? Of course, ignoring the setting, since both games don't seem to offer much in this direction. I'm mainly talking about mechanics, balance and variety.

>> No.15614833

PDP, easily.

>> No.15614986

>Of course, ignoring the setting, since both games don't seem to offer much in this direction.
I dunno, I'd say Purple's got it beat. Emerald isn't anything amazing, but PDP is just "dick around in Gensokyo" from start to finish.

Is there some patched, expanded, translated DL around anywhere?

>> No.15617930

Yes. The only thing it has over the expansion is an English translation.

>> No.15621074

Is there a Name Rater in this game?

>> No.15621087 [SPOILER] 
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Yeah, but you need to beat her first

>> No.15627013
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Which of course means she's impossible to rematch outside of the Village Tournament.

I wanted to see her dorky Remilia name again dammit

>> No.15627202
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fun game

>> No.15627209
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This team never loses multiplayer

>> No.15627263

Is it easier to find people to play now?

>> No.15627285

Yeah, there's random matches you can do, and there's a tpdp discord public somewhere

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>> No.15628097

Is the "Secret Area" in http://en.tpdpwiki.net/wiki/Bamboo_Forest_of_the_Lost the Cabin of Insanity?

>> No.15629413

Expansion translation when

>> No.15633739 [DELETED] 

Any more games like this where you can play with a large roster of touhou characters?

>> No.15633750

Any more english translated games like this where you can play with a large roster of touhou characters?

I've already played Genius of Sappheiros and Touhou Labyrinth.

>> No.15634480
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>not drawing your own maps

It's fun and educational.

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My entire team is level 100. I have beaten almost everyone in Gensokyo. I have done all the rematches I know of. My puppetdex is complete. I've beaten the village tournament.

So when the fuck will the moonbitches stop throwing me out of the lunar capital?

>> No.15639112

What are these ratings based on?

>> No.15640267

Dicks out for harambe

>> No.15640273

Nice team.
Are you taking courses to become a teacher, too?

>> No.15640278
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I'm leveling up Benben because I need a decent sound-type.

>> No.15640282

You're hardcore, dude.

And thanks for making this thread, OP. I've been wanting to talk about this game forever!

>> No.15640291


Already have my AA and now working on my BS
Last semester, then it is off to the workforce.

And the team so far has been great to use. Utsuho Power is the greatest paper cannon

>> No.15640694

2/6, apply yourself
Taste in 2hus more than team comp or such.
6/6, another excellent team

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I probably need to improve my team composition, it's likely shite.

>> No.15640733

Teacher-in-Training-anon here

My first team I did was


Sadly, I lost that version way back and restarted

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Rate my shit taste too

>> No.15641461

Not him but they're all pretty cute 6/6. Sariel is kinda a generic choice though because she's like the highest BST in the game.

>> No.15641769
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I sort of want to replace Chen and Rumia with somebody else since I almost never use them because I need to make sure they faint in battles so they get half exp so that they won't easily outlevel the rest of the team. This makes me sad.

I hate the shared exp system sometimes.

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Rei'sen is the star player here. Outspeeds virtually everything and hits absolutely brutally. Satori was a pain, though, since it pretty much inevitably came down to a speed tie between mine and hers.

It definitely feels way too easy to level up, though. Even running away from everything I don't want to seal, I just can't stop being at least 10-15 levels above every mook trainer around.

>> No.15642858

Been working on a solo run, with lunachild. Decided to go speed style and things have been relatively smooth so far. Bout to go head to suzuran fields, and my Luna is lv.66

so far the only trainers I have trouble with were Aya at tengu village and Kanako, the latter was actually not doable, her kanako one shots me and I do nothing to it. Glad it's an optional fight cause wow

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So how exactly do you make Extra Mugetsu good? Shit speed, shit abilities. shit moveset, shit movepool, just barely not-shit typing. Did Hemo just hate her or something? Because it's hard to find a single thing that isn't useless about her.

>> No.15650378

>drawing maps
are you over 25?

>> No.15650398

On the dot, actually.

It's a lot more engrossing than just wandering around at random or blithely following a guide, honest. Reminds me of mapping out DOS games that didn't come with strategy books and FAQs. I want to do it for more games now.

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Still waiting on the translation to play the expansion.

>> No.15650771

wow it was really shocking to me to find a game that is even more shallow and have so small of varietry than pokemon
>everything learns rapid spin
>no way to block it
>spin works on protect
>everything learns taunt
>shitloads of types that mean there are no good offensive types or defensive types
>every puppet have one moveset
>b-but forms
having a POWER written next to your name is telling your opponent what set you have there are no lures no suprise factor in this game

>all defensive pokemons are same
healing move
trapping move
some attack
even in pokemon bulky things like mega sableye and quagsire have something special that no other pokemon have yet in puppets only types and ability changes
>every puppet have minmaxed stats
every offensive puppet have
many speed
many attack
many health
many attack
in pokemon you have for example chansey its minmaxed but its one of a kind pokemon while in puppets there are many puppets that have for example many spa many hp but low atk
>official format is 3vs3
in 3vs3 there is no strategy its either full ofensive or bulky ofense but its just still throwing damaging moves anyway
>fire type toxic
while in pokemon you have less types therefore more awnsers to toxic in pupepts you need to have a one of out many types to have safe switch in
>every type have its own versions of double edge , moonblast ,120 bp 80% acc move both physical and special , 3 types have its own u turn clone . even in pokemon ''same'' moves are slightly different like drain punch is physical and drainink kiss deals less dmg but heals more

im pretty sure that the reason because the most used puppet in online have like 9% of usage is because its can run only one set in smogon (ou) tier for example the most used pokemon is garchomp that can pull off 6 vialable sets thats why everybody use it.

its still a good game but i wish hemo wasnt a fucking crying baby and let all playstyles be vialable

>> No.15650815

so you'd rather deal with shitty stall teams, then?

>> No.15650846

stall in pokemon is either fucked by a bulky setup pokemon or a taunt/knock off in puppets there are no unaware pokemons or mattering things with magic bounce

>> No.15650854

also doubles exist too

>> No.15651646

Then go stick to your shitty unbalanced stalling trash game filled with smogon autists.

I'd rather see someone being a fucking crybaby who still gives a shit about the game after it's release than a company who just throws the towel after they get their money.

>> No.15651656

it's just pokemon, mate

>> No.15651802

I don't give a shit about competitive moms or puppets, but honestly, he's kinda right in the lack of variety. So few Touhous have anything that really makes them special and stand out. Same problem Purple has. You can use whoever you want and that's great, but at the same time none of them feel really special.

>> No.15653122

>6/6, another excellent team
Thanks so much!

No clue, sorry. How'd you get the sprite?

>> No.15653126

Drawing maps is fun and good for your brain.
Makes me nostalgic for the days before gameFAQS

>> No.15653512

>smogon is only format
my fav meme

>> No.15655731

Everyone on /v/ just whines about it belonging on /vp/ like the shitposting morons they all are nowadays.

>> No.15655773

And the last tpdp thread on /vp/ complained about it, saying it belongs in /v/.

>> No.15655785

It's fine in /jp/ as is the case with every other Touhou fangame. Whether other boards also want to have them is their business.

>> No.15657004
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Both /vp/ and /v/ are filled with shitposting and baiting, and it's far harder to sustain these threads on /vp/ nowadays due to the Gen 7 leaks.

I'm fine with the threads staying in /jp/, though I do wish the activity picked up a bit and some of the regulars from /vp/ get off their asses and move over soon.

It's in the pastebin. http://pastebin.com/NyBVqHVy

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Why the FUCK would threads about 2hu fangames not be okay on /jp/ anyway?

>> No.15663427

Is there a full translation for the full game yet?

>> No.15665719

>This patch translates the core interfaces of the game, the bare minimum to make the game playable to English audiences. Skills, Abilities, Items, Puppet Names, Puppet Encyclopedia, Gap Map names, Some trainer names, AI Puppet names, Map location names, and Graphical Interfaces, all that has been translated.
Well fuck, that's good enough for me.
It's time.

>> No.15665922

Or it would be if the game was still working in here.
>install YnK and the old version -> it works fine
>update YnK to 1.103 -> it complains that the old version isn't installed
Well shit. Do I need to update the old one too?

>> No.15666283
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Are you a stallfag?

>> No.15666291

Wait, this thread has been there for 10 days?! That is so...sad...

>> No.15666416

Doesn't look like it, neither updated or unupdated versions of the base game seem to be recognized. The weirdest thing is how YnK opens without any problem if I don't update it.
I guess I'll just give up.
Welcome to /jp/, we take it very easy in here.

>> No.15667034

You by easy ypu mean slow as fuck...

>> No.15667565

Yes, if you don't like it then back to >>>/v/ I guess?
Complains like these get us nowhere fast.

>> No.15667705

I don't understand what the problem is. Can you explain it again?

>> No.15668104

/Vp/ was great, last thread got bump limit but not one did another one after that and right now there is new S/M info so is not a good moment.

>> No.15668115

Never mind that, I explained the issue better and managed to fix it by myself on the puppet play forums.
In case this ends up happening to someone else.

>> No.15668241
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>Hemo is crazy for hecatia
>Has done two lewd doujins of her, one with tentacles and other with...a dog...
>her puppet is broken, is aegislash with three forms
>You can't fight her ingame, not pokeman remix of her theme either
Hemo pls, you draw all that lewd of her butwon't, let us fight her?

>> No.15668245

*Won't let us
Fuck this cellphone keyboard.

>> No.15668257

Wait for the sequel where the final battle with have you facing both of his wives, Hecatia and Shinki at the same time.

>> No.15668285

You mean Waka.

>> No.15668449
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>her puppet is broken, is aegislash with three forms

>no priority
>no kang shield
>switches on attack
>low speed

>> No.15668519

If he loves her so much why does he draw her getting raped?
Is he a cuck?

>> No.15668591

On the internet, nobody knows he's a dog.

>> No.15668650

Who the fuck knows? Artists drawing the most lewd shit of characters they like is common as fuck.

>> No.15668656

He did the same waka...which ended up with a vanilla tone.

>> No.15668671

Is his fetish.

>> No.15669684
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Am I missing something here?

>> No.15669748

I'm not sure...

You're eventually earning PP like mad, but I don't remember any skills costing that much BUT I haven't played this in a while

>> No.15669800

It's that skill in particular that's bugging me.
>costs 99 PP
>only 1 SP
>flinches and that's it
>doesn't even deal damage
All that while there's a Fake Out clone without any nerfs at all. Does Raiko have any setup that gets stronger as the match goes on for that skill to be any useful?

>> No.15670182

Why are Yuuka and Yukari so fucking hard?

And why her remixes are so FUCKING GOOD?

>> No.15670400

All of Yuuka's themes are great

Funny, she has one of the most songs in the series

>> No.15670405

What the dick am I supposed to do after Medicine fucks off out of the reactor? It looks like my only option is backtracking, which wouldn't make any sense

>> No.15670550

I figured it out and it was annoying.

>> No.15674694


>> No.15676200
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Videogames can be hard, anon.

>> No.15677612
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Oh hey, I haven't seen one of these in literal months.

Isn't there an interface patch out for the expansion at this point?

>> No.15677649

also i missed you

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Yeah, after the threads died off on /vp/ I slowly lost interest and turned my attention to other things.

I am however still a bit Raiko obsessed.

>> No.15677758

/jp/ used to have tons of threads about Touhoumon games anyway so saying they suddenly belong to /v/ or /vp/ is just stupid.

There have probably been more Touhoumon threads than even Genius of Sappheiros threads on /jp/.

>> No.15677822

Goddammit Raikoanon, where have you been all the time?

>> No.15678238
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Welcome back. Nothing's been banned since you last checked in.

Defense Doremy is now the most-used puppet in the game, at 14% usage. Extra Hina is the only other one above 10% usage, at 12%. Landorus-T is still terrorizing another game, hovering around 30%+.

Extra Wakasagihime failed to make a splash in the metagame and is currently sitting at #73 in the overall usage charts. One of the other Genbu sweepers you hyped up, Extra Lily, is doing quite a bit better, at #25.

The only Raiko style that breaches the top 200 puppets is Power Raiko, at #119. She's still a great puppet, as is almost everything in the top 200 and then some.

The English community is still pretty dead, you're still going to have a thousand and one migraines finding a match, and I'm still too shy to battle anyone

Puppets are fun.

>> No.15679022
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Raikoanon! you are alive! we tried to bait you out in those successful threads in /v/ and /vp/ but didn't work.
Did you finally beat Raiko's stage?

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>Puppets are fun.

>> No.15679295
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Not seeing puppet threads, I thought they had just died out completely.

No, she keeps beating me down like the drum that she is.

>> No.15679349

you are shitty fucking nigger dude

>> No.15679384
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Poor Raikoanon, it still can't defeat his waifu or not being bothered by lewd art of her.

>> No.15679470

It became more of an "on-and-off" thing rather than a major focus.

I did reach her last spellcard once!

And please do not post lewd Raiko. Thank you.


>> No.15679488
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Don't worry, i wont, have a cute raiko instead.

>> No.15679532

you will come to respect the lewds eventually, raikoanon
there is no escape

>> No.15679549
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I am not raikoanon, i am the anon that got infected by hemo's obsession with hecatia.

>> No.15679557

i couldn't tell, you were posting raiko and he wasn't

>> No.15679775

>Raikoanon is back
God fucking damn it, where's the story translation?

>> No.15679967

Have you tried the TPDP discord? There's a channel specifically for netplay where you could probably find matches.

>> No.15680599
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It turns out that translation is really hard. Who knew?

I should mention one thing; while I did fall off the TPDP wagon, I did not go back to Smogon. I've been spoiled by puppets having actual balance.

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And what do you think of what this anon >>15650771is saying?

>> No.15682672

>It turns out that translation is really hard.
I'm not saying it's not, smartass.

>> No.15682767
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Yeah, I didn't mean to be a smartass. Sorry. It took quite a long time to translate the original and the expansion both changed basically all the dialogue and added more in, so it might be even longer.

He does have a point in the general similarity between puppets, but part of that is just a side effect of things being more balanced.

And Hemo's general hatred of stall.

I am staring at the sea cucumber's ability in gen 7 and it's like peak fuck-you to set-up sweepers. Wow.

>> No.15684455

Someonekniws how much longer it will take to translated the dialogue?

>> No.15684465

Not really, the damage the sea thing does depends of how much HP had before getting KO, what if it has crappy base HP?

>> No.15684523

Pyukumuku has pain split

>> No.15684566

Ok, now it needs the speed.

>> No.15684652

It's a check that just prevents stuff from setting up.

>Bisharp uses Swords Dance
>Pyukumuku uses Pain Split
>Bisharp has to switch out or suicide kill the Pyukumuku

>> No.15685046

>if everything same its balanced
go play checkers instead

>> No.15685273

I think someone ran calcs based on a trailer, and the thing seems to have about 90-100 base HP.

>> No.15685815
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Reminder that stall is only viable in mainline Pokemon because Smogon keeps banning Pokemon that singlehandedly make it nonviable (Hoopa-Unbound being the latest example kicked upstairs to Ubers).

Diversity in puppets may feel a little samey on the surface and not all puppets will have more than one viable moveset, but I'd rather have the ability to use almost any of the 300-odd puppets I want than confine myself to the 50 or so OU Pokemon that outclass everything else in the game.

Though I'd question how much you know about puppets at all, given you claim that the shitload of typings in TPDP hurts game balance, and yet there's only 17 in this game including Dream, versus 18 for Pokemon.

>> No.15686016

>something get banned in fair voting
>oh no

pretty sure that pokemons from uu-ru have also niche in ou

there are no good offensive typing or defensive typing in puppets evrything have like 3 weaknesses and 3 supper efective against

>> No.15686484

Ah...the "ban debate", makes me nostalgic.
My position is still the same: fuck bans!

>> No.15686726

Things only get banned because they're so difficult to deal with that they centralize the fuck out of the game, though, when you're pretty much forced to have something if you want to have any chance and they're hard to take down, that's when things get wonky. The reason why there have been so many more bans recently is because Pokemon has gotten a serious power creep recently, and when you realize that they aren't as much of bans as they are a promotion to an upper tier it doesn't feel as harsh.
>confine myself to the 50 or so OU Pokemon
Well yeah, that's why they're OverUsed. You can still use anything from lower tiers in OU, don't forget that, but if they're in OU in first place there must be a reason.
In any case, that's enough Smogon rambling from me. I haven't even played since Gen IV for fuck's sake.

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>Shipping gen V
But is the best gen! Gen 6 is shit though

Back to touhoumon, someone knows how long it took to hemo to make both base game and expansion?

>> No.15687853

*Skipping gen V

>> No.15688225

I guess you can Protect-Thunderclap-Protect, which might be helpful depending on what else she gets.

>> No.15688663

Gen V is weird. It's pokes look like complete shit at first, but the games themselves sound neat or at least different. Then you play them and the pokes grow on you pretty quickly, but the games themselves are just fucking terrible.

>> No.15688766
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>but the games themselves are just fucking terrible.
OPINIONS, have a fairy.

>> No.15689004

God I wish TPDP was less worried about balance. I want some mechanic that rewards using all of a set out Touhous. All fairies, all SDM, stuff like that.

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Also, i like gen V because the manga of that gen has the most tragic ending (yeah, i like tragedy if involves separate two lovers).
Back to touhoumon, what if hemo releases another expansions that adds a whole functional battle frontier?

>> No.15689622

link for the expansion pack in the pastebin is dead.

>> No.15689840

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that bans are bad in Pokemon. My point was that stall is only viable at all in OU because there's a huge amount of broken shit like Hoopa-U, Mega Blaziken, Mega Mawile, and Mega Lucario that ordinarily make stalling nigh-impossible, and those have been kicked up to Ubers. But even in the current OU metagame, with those threats removed, it's only viable due to a handful of edge-case defensive Pokemon like M-Sableye, Ferrothorn, Chansey, etc.

Given half your posts have been thinly-veiled bitching about stall not being viable, it's also important to remember that it's barely hanging on by a thread in Smogon's OU, and it might as well not exist in Doubles.

And it's a huge stretch to say the types are all equivalent to each other in roles, even if nothing is as extreme as Pokemon's Steel resisting half the type chart or the trash heap Ice and Bug are in. Poison/Wind/Light are all well above-average defensively, Sound/Fighting/Steel are great offensively. Poison/Light in particular resists 9 types and is only weak to 4, while something like Earth/Illusion has largely unimportant resistances and a ton of crucial weaknesses.

Not that the TPDP meta is perfect - there's definitely a feeling of sameness at time. But you're taking it way too far.

>> No.15689900

Raikoanon forcing TPDP in Smogon WHEN


>> No.15690103

He said he quit smogon long ago, puppets spoiled him for that.
But if you want fun, go to a smogin thread and post the current list of puppet usage.

>> No.15691733

all of these pokemons were not only shitting on stall but also shitting on more offensive teams because speed/priority

>3 resist 2 weaknesses
>4 resist 2 weaknesses

>3 resist 2 weaknesses 1 immune
>3 resist 2 weaknesses

wow great diffrence there

>> No.15694570
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First of all, you're mixing together pre-expansion type matchup tallies (Wind) with post-expansion tallies (Poison). I understand what you're trying to do, but I never said that Poison/Wind were bad offensively or Sound/Fighting were bad defensively. Those four in particular are probably some of the best types in the game.

Regardless, there's a lot of things that are more important than raw resistances/weaknesses, like what types you're resisting in particular. There's a reason Water is a much better defensive type than Ghost in Pokemon, even though they both have the same amount of weaknesses and Ghost has two immunities in place of Water's resistances.

But between this and other things like
>shitloads of types that mean there are no good offensive types or defensive types
when there's less types than in Pokemon in total, even if you include Dream;
>3 types have its own u turn clone
when there's only Changeling and Lightning Speed, unless you want to count the Parting Shot clone that exists in Pokemon anyways;
>in puppets there are no unaware pokemons or mattering things with magic bounce
when Wisdom Eye aka. Unaware still exists and Defense Satori/Defense Mima/Power Mima are definitely relevant puppets; and
>i wish hemo wasnt a fucking crying baby and let all playstyles be vialable
when the only playstyle that isn't as viable in TPDP is stall (even semi-stall can work well enough if you teambuild properly) and stall isn't viable in mainline Pokemon anyways outside of Smogon formats;

I have to ask, have you played TPDP or are you basing your opinions on theorymonning? These things may look bad on paper but especially with the introduction of Warped-type and extra styles, type synergies definitely exist and variety is far better than you'd think.

Try out the meta yourself before you get too down on things, and get a feel for how the types and their matchups operate. It may still not be for you, but you won't know unless you try.

>> No.15694575

>not liking Gen 5, the best gen
shit taste.

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>> No.15694663

>Yuuka is not viable

>> No.15695280
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>buy new printer
>installs it
>print something to test it out
>is pic related
I became hemo.

>> No.15696458

More like you became homo

>> No.15697377

But i am not a girl.

>> No.15698667

i already played shitloads of time both multi and puppet maison and you have some points here but the only thing you cant defend is


>> No.15698677
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>98/115/185 with ability to take 10% less dmg
wow what a shitmon

>> No.15699013

Do I have to do something special for Suwako puppets to show up in the Moriya Shrine? I've run out of PP on a puppet looking for one.

>> No.15701520
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You didn't donate enough money or prayer to the Moriya Shrine! Suwako will only appear to those who have shown their faith.

>> No.15701640

>Try out the meta yourself before you get too down on things, and get a feel for how the types and their matchups operate. It may still not be for you, but you won't know unless you try.

Where can you even do this as a English speaker/gaijin, discord seems ded

>> No.15701863

>look at usage chart
>doremy is top
>look at wiki to find out why
>doremy is darkrai

>> No.15701963

which doremy?

>> No.15701977

Actually, I rechecked the list and Defense Doremy is the popular one, when Extra Doremy has the ability. Thats odd.

>> No.15702138

its a bootleg darkai that dont have stab on anything the sleeping move is 75% acc and dont have best speed or bulk

>> No.15706487

Is hecatia in any place of the ranking?

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18 Eヘカーティア 4539 (4.18%)

16 Eヘカーティア 303 (5.16%)

>> No.15715929
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>literally speed ties: the boss

Why was this allowed?

>> No.15718232

You have the advantage of in-battle items, use it.

>> No.15718252
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beat the game with this team, pretty good type coverage and a lot of them can eat attacks

>> No.15718293

It was a great idea for a Pokemon game, I don't know if it actually worked or not but it's a really fun thing.

>> No.15723524
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>have team with setup things and suportive moves
>ai dont know what to do

good job hemo

>> No.15723957

They do what to do in the expansion.

>> No.15723962

*They know what to do

>> No.15724114

yes the ai only knows how to use attacking skills in satori battle

however in ''boss'' battles like shinki ai is literally knowing what you do like for example knows what to puppet you are switching know what move you will use and will always make good play

>> No.15730141
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Yup. That level of AI makes the battle tower equivalent a living hell, even with your opponents having a set 3 and with you being able to pick 3 out of your team of 6.

Also bump.

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Are other Touhoumon games allowed? Here's my current team helping me get through the Java Region.

Sorry for shit quality, since I'm playing it on a crappy phone. It does run well though.

>> No.15731938

The speed in /jp/ is terrible, don't you agree, raikoanon?

>> No.15732822

Oh sweet, looks like we're back in /jp/. I didn't realize it until I decided to come pay a much needed visit again.

We've talked about the other Touhoumon games in the threads, so I'm certain you can.

>> No.15733242

Not Raikoanon, but it'd be a lot better if more of the regulars from past threads spotted the new location and started posting, like >>15732822 did.

There's only so much we can do to help the pacing, but adding the customary OP in subsequent threads would be a good start.

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Makes keeping the thread alive really easy at least.

>> No.15735882

Since the current translation is incomplete, will the full translation require starting a new game save? That was a problem with the base game, wasn't it?

>> No.15739558

How good is this compared to Pokemon Uranium/Reborn/Rejuvination/the other major Pokemon fangames?

>> No.15740048

I haven't played that, but the spritework and the designs are definitely better in TPDP than the Uranium pokedex.
TPDP has so many quality of life improvements in comparison, and the difficulty always feels fair unlike Reborn.
Haven't played that.

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>the spritework and the designs are definitely better in TPDP than the Uranium pokedex.
That's not really a difficult thing to do.

>> No.15742570
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Who happens to be the counterparts of Deoxys, Rayquaza, Swampert, Glaceon and Sylveon in Touhoumon/TPDP?

post move set

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Ranking based on playstyle because 1:1 comparisons in TPDP are pretty rare outside of shit like OrangeD (Blissey) and MomijiE (Ferrothorn).

Speed: AyaS, no contest
Defense: NueD or LunasaD, but it's not that great a comparison as neither can learn Stealth Trap
Attack: Gengetsu-S or Doremy-P, probably; superfast mixed attacker with shit defensive typing and shit defenses

Mega: Any puppet with Boundary Trance
Regular: None

No good comparison. LettyE is closest - more or less shares Swampert's type (Water/Earth) but gets fuckawful spread attack (no mixed attacking sets), doesn't get Stealth Trap, and has bizarre abilities. NueE is a lot closer and has better (still bad) spread attack + Stealth Trap, but she's Wind/Nether.

KyoukoP. Wrecks shit with her single good attacking move on a scarf/specs set, might as well not exist when doing anything else

No good comparison. BenbenE is probably closest, but she's an Alomomola clone instead. No puppets have the right combination of stat spread + moveset for it, though there are a lot that can play at either her cleric set or her specs set - just not both

>post move set
Not that anon, but she's definitely not a shitmon
YuukaP: Racing Earth/Thor's Hammer/Voice of Famine/Rocky Barrage or Poisoned Arrow. Could go with 4 attacks for a Golden Hairpin set, go Choice, even throw in a spread move like Cold Rain/Gigantic because her spread attack is good too

YuukaD: Grace of Mana/Rock Drills/Power Drain or Voice of Famine/Impact Rebellion is probably her best set, her movepool is pretty small

YuukaE: Either choiced or Wolfsbane Root held item with Moonbow/Energy Absorb or Pollen Mist/Thunderlord's Scorn/Gigantic; could replace one of last two moves with Grace of Mana to give her more staying power, and invest in either HP or Speed depending on preference

>> No.15743402

Why do YukariP and SuikaP exist.

>> No.15743409

Why does Yukari's regular sprite exist?
Also, what are some decent Yukari builds?

>> No.15743455

You're playing pretty much the shittiest Touhoumon hack around. Please don't do this to yourself.

>> No.15743972

>having problems with movesets in this game
>wanting puppets to have exactly same shit like pokemon
>having this shit taste in pokemon
kill yourself my man

>> No.15745012

They're puppet equivalents to Regigigas and Slaking, except not as completely useless.

>> No.15745019

Is there an equivalent to baton pass and swords dance/nasty plot?

>> No.15745472

PElly was busted in base TPDP because she could use Mad Rush Stance (+2 Speed and +1 ATK, i.e. Shift Gear) and Backup Plan (i.e. Baton Pass, and Steel/Wind typing was incredibly good.

Warp types kind of shot her viability though.

>> No.15746361

PElly is currently the most used puppet. She's still effective because the Warp types that are good are slower than her and the Warp types that are faster than her are better in original forms, so nothing really changed besides adding the ability to 1 shot her, but at the cost of possibly using a shittier puppet.

At least that's what I think is the reasoning, I don't actually play competitively, but looking at usage stats and the BST of the strongest puppets, that seems to be a possibility.

>> No.15746707

then can you recommend me some "better" ones? of course Gensokyo Scenario is one

>> No.15746835
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>PElly at 115 for all-time usage in SoD
>not even top 200 this week
>RanE, the fastest Warp-type ingame, at #12 in the usage charts


>> No.15748096

Oh, I was still on the old data usage page, my bad.

>> No.15748190

Purple has the best gameplay and difficulty. Also, 1.8 sprites and typings/movepool. Of course, it doesn't offer much in terms of story over regular Pokemon Emerald, but you should be able to deal with that.

>> No.15748260

multi is fucking cancerfest of everything dies in one hit or you cant do any dmg

>> No.15750922
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And it's still better balanced than actual Pokemon.

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Post replays

>> No.15751998

That's not saying much

>> No.15752067

Welcome to the pokémon competitive scene.

>> No.15752323


>> No.15752386

Are you fucking kidding me.

>> No.15752394

Anything goes is the best example of why pokemon has no balance.

>> No.15752433

Pokèmon these days is designed for VGC but from time to time GF throws a bone to singles fans with stuff like Zard X. Also matches have rules even without smogon for the sake of avoiding stuff like in that replay.

>> No.15752442

What, did VGC actually ban Mega Gengar or Perish Song?

>> No.15752444

Limy played terribly there, no predictions at all even though the opponent was doing the same shit over and over.

>> No.15752880

What would he have been able to do with his piece of shit team?

>> No.15753156
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What? what the hell is this?

>> No.15753178

Anything Goes is a format where anything is legal apart from an endless battle.
Limy uses 6 Klefki, a team of a really annoying stall pokemon.
Tails uses a bunch of arceus + support, a common anything goes team.
Tails uses M-Gengar to perish trap the klefki, probably because he wants to kill as many as possible before being forced to get into the rng swagger game.
Limy misses his chance to dodge the first trap and doesn't seem to have a klefki with an anti-other staller set, and quits.

>> No.15753335

>in puppets you cant do that thing or even something close to it
hemo step up your game

>> No.15753563

You have Extra Medicine, who would probably get he trapping ability banned from Ubers if she was a Pokemon. The only reason Shadow Tag isn't banned from Ubers is because banning it would ban Mega Gengar from the tier completely, and Mega Gengar requiring a Mega Evolution means there is at least some cost to running him (i.e. not being able to run Mega Salamence). In a tier wherein Poison doesn't exist outside of Gengar, she would be disgusting.

>> No.15753782

>comparing that garbage to m-gengar
>actually knowing ubers meta
do you absorb smogon articles and puppet metagame to exist

>> No.15754502

Think of it like this:

Shadow Tag was almost banned from Ubers not even because of Mega Gengar (because you can switch out on the Mega Evolve turn to dodge the Shadow Tag), but because of Gothitelle.

Extra Medicine is much stronger than Gothitelle.

>> No.15756894

because gothitelle have trick what makes setup sweepers/clerics useless somethng that medicine-e dont have

so medicine is worse than gothitele and gengar

>> No.15757396

Are there any written guides for the expansion online that at least roughly give you an idea of what the characters are telling you to do? I'm getting really impatient waiting for the translation but I don't want to miss out on what's actually going on.

>> No.15757412

there is walktrough on internet

however if you really want to know what lore is

there is book that explains why puppets were created
you wander around seeking pages of that book
shinki created them wow

cutscene with you and your puppet runing and THE END

>> No.15757967

So why did she make them

>> No.15758119
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Because puppets are cute.

>> No.15758239

to genocide faires

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>shinki made semisentients, living puppets because reasons casually in short time
>alice hardly manage to make a semiautomatic doll after years of magic research
like salt in the wound

>> No.15762284

Because Alice didn't want to be mommy little girl anymore.

>> No.15766547
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>Extra Miko is Fire/Sound
>Extra Byakuren is Earth/Electric

I-is Hemo trying to tell us something?

>> No.15769252

Yes, that Miko sucks.

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Hemo is on the move again.

>> No.15774464

>scans of that doujin never

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>> No.15781258

I hope you mean the tentacles one...

>> No.15786745
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For people who have played through SoD, was anyone else disappointed by how easy the campaign was compared to the base game?

It feels like Hemo wanted to shrink the end of the campaign down to level 70 so postgame content could be added without hitting the level cap, but in the process almost all of the standard trainers had their levels and difficulty drastically reduced, and thus most of the midgame and lategame is a massive, boring slog through incredibly underleveled generics.

The only meaningful, tough fights that aren't just a smattering of free EXP are important named trainers like Reimu, Marisa, Remilia, etc. But even then some aren't free from that, because a lot of major characters like Utsuho, Medicine, Yuuka, sort of Sanae, Sakuya, Yuyuko, Youmu, Tenshi, Raiko, and the final few Marisa fights + rematches and more I'm forgetting are incredibly underwhelming and forgettable when fought. It's difficult to even remember expansion-only postgame fights other than Seija and the final Mugetsu/Gengetsu encounter, and neither of them can be rematched.

It feels like the biggest problem is once again the party-wide EXP Share, just like Pokemon itself nowadays. Balancing a lengthy campaign around it just doesn't work when a full battle against equally-leveled puppets/Pokemon will gain everyone in your party nearly a level.

>> No.15787284

or maybe turn based grind rpgs are fucking butt easy

>> No.15787372

Or maybe, because you already played the base game, ypu already had the knowledge of the types and how fight specific puppets.
Pokeman used to be hard when you didn't know the types.

>> No.15788459

The base game wasn't that difficult from kanako onwards until you reach the elite four. If you fight everything you meet, then you shouldn't have any issues until shinki herself.

>> No.15788597

Speaking of that, why no Extra styles in the campaign? They only start to appear very late in the postgame, and late enough that very few of them ever appear.

>> No.15788644

Is the SoD english patch out now?

>> No.15789817

Full? No.

The important stuff minus story? Yes.

>> No.15790348

See you guys in a month I guess.

>> No.15797299

This reminds me. I still didn't post the OST.


>> No.15797460

i love you, anon
definitely homo

>> No.15798096

I thought she had a peg leg in that pic.

>> No.15803966

>the party-wide EXP Share
I don't mind that too much in this game given how I love changing my party around, but even so it's easy to notice how overleveled I tend to be in relation to everything. I think having both the Exp. All system and the level scaling from Gen V, so everyone still gets exp but not much when they're overleveled, could do wonders for the balancing.

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>> No.15812569

Don't wake the sleeping Suika.

>> No.15813391
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Well, today is cirno day, have something relevant to this thread

>> No.15817126

I should have expected this.

>> No.15822898

pffhaha, nice

also see you guys after sun/moon I guess

>> No.15823634

No if the postgame is shit.