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15543352 No.15543352 [Reply] [Original]

This thread is for the discussion of Touhou gameplay. What have you been working on, /jp/?
I got a questionable 1cc in IN..
Previous thread >>15437599

>> No.15543618

>>15543352
>What have you been working on
Practicing stages 3 and 4.

>> No.15543983

Trying to 1cc LLS on hard. Are there any replays I can study?

>> No.15545803

how do i do pofv/soku/ulil netplay between two computers in the same room?

>> No.15546173
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15546173

Hmm.

>> No.15546247

Can someone recommend me a good fangame? Other shooters are fine but I want something more touhou-like. Not made in danmakufu if possible.

>> No.15546302
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15546302

it's a start!
died around Ran's 2nd or 3rd spell, I believe

>> No.15546397
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>>15543352
Scratch this, I got a true 1cc, at long last.

>> No.15546428

>>15546397
good job anon!

>> No.15546665

>>15543352
I'm trying to get 1LC on LOLK on easy and legacy mode.

>> No.15546680

>>15546397
Nice first. Any plans for after that?

>>15546247
I don't think Touhou shmup fangames are very good. Better to either play Touhou or play some other shmup entirely.

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>>15546680
>Nice first. Any plans for after that?
Yeah, I have done it with Border and Magic team and now I'm about to beat Kaguya with Scarlet team.
My goal is to unlock solo shot types and Master Yuyuko.
I'll go for a normal 1cc when I get her, then hard and extra clears, then 1cc hard and so on
Maybe 1c EoSD and MoF since last time I was soo close in both of them
>>15546302
Way to go anon, I haven't beaten Chen last time I tried

>> No.15547264

>>15546247
It's not a fangame but if you want a touhou-like shmup without it being complete garbage try the Len'en series.

>> No.15547302

>>15546247
Shining Shooting Star is pretty solid all around, and pretty damn pleasing aesthetically to boot.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Shining_Shooting_Star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZg5Ewi3hsU

>> No.15547467

Well, after telling myself I was going to try these games for two months I finally did just that, and it isn't as masochistically difficult as I expected.

There's still this very wonderful rush of adrenaline I haven't felt in a long time though and I could see myself playing these games for a long time.

So, are there any particular games I should work on first? Maybe there are some that are more difficult than the others. Thank you.

>> No.15547494

>>15547467
>So, are there any particular games I should work on first?
It doesn't really matter too much, just find something you like and stick with it for a while. Touhou 6, 7, 8, and 10 are good starting points.

11, 12, and 15 are the hardest to 1cc on normal.

>> No.15547519

>>15547494
Alright, I think I'll mess with #8 first then.

>> No.15547901

>>15547519
If you don't mind emulating, 4 and 5 are also great starting points. 4 is the easiest in the series, so once you're able to finish 8 (or perhaps if you're having some trouble with it) you'll have no problem with 4.

Also, since you're new, you might want to check the wiki's gameplay pages for some information. Most of these games (pretty much anything after 6 except 10 and 11) has a sort of gimmick to it that you'll have to familiarize yourself with. For example, 8 has the time orbs and human/youkai gauge mechanic.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Imperishable_Night/Gameplay

>> No.15549053
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15549053

So close.
Which one is worse kunais or bullet circles?

>> No.15549421

>>15549053
Going for the kunai (Hecatia) is easier and gives you the chapter bonus. The circles (Junko) grants no chapter bonus, but it's sill pretty easy. I recommend going for the kunai.

>> No.15549800

>>15549421
Is it possible to go through the gaps while using the bombs without getting hit or without using bombs the whole time.

>> No.15549942

>>15549800
With Reisen? Yeah, it's possible. With a few of her shields you should be able to get through the spell safely.

>> No.15557893
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>>15549942
It took me three tries before finally managing to beat the card. Thanks for the help Anon.

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>>15557893
No problem, and congrats!

>> No.15559720

Am I the only one who can play best during the first moments or so? I'm a pleb who's mostly playing Normal mode because I can't even 1cc for shit and my best games are usually when I'm fresh into the game. Like, I just died at 40% of PCB Extra mode (Ran), which is the furthest I've ever gone into this mode simply out of whim. When I keep playing, I usually get worse and hit a cap where I can't do shit after a while.

>> No.15559804

>>15559720
This is totally normal, it happens to everyone.
You are focused when you start playing, but eventually you wear down.

>> No.15560481

>>15545803
please respond

>> No.15560826

>>15559720
I find that the better I do in the beginning the worse I do later. I get nervous thinking that I'm going to mess up and my hands start sweating

>> No.15562187

>>15545803
Can't you just use an ethernet cable?

>> No.15562960 [DELETED] 
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15562960

castrate me for fucks sake

>> No.15563026

whats the most recent/best version of touhoumon out at the moment?
havn't picked it up in forever and curious if any new ones that are good have come out

>> No.15563524

>>15562187
i don't know if we have one and it probably wouldn't reach anyway

>> No.15563707

I got a 1cc on MoF out of a whim
Man I feel so good since I didn't know most of Kanako's spells, and mountain of faith was a hell lot of fun to dodge
It's a shame that this game doesn't show a results screen like the previous ones though

>> No.15563880
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15563880

>>15563026
The expansion/reworking of Gensou Ningyou Enbu recently got translated, at least partly. I haven't played it yet, but the old version was pretty good.

>> No.15563985

Holy fucking shit, SA shot types are the fucking best.
I usually pick a favorite or main type for every game, but this one is making me rethink my life choices.
>Collecting shit and turning enemies shot into homing shots is great, plus you get to listen to the oni
>Moving fast as shit and getting that pseudo Youmu shot with Aya is great
>Marisa actually having ranged attack and being able to reach 8 pow thanks to Alice's dolls
>All of Patchouli

>> No.15564021

>>15563985
>Moving fast as shit and getting that pseudo Youmu shot with Aya is great
Lying is bad anon.

>> No.15564094

>>15563985
>Collecting shit
I always found this ability a bit useless since you can easily auto-collect stuff just by grazing. But I guess it can be handy sometimes.

>> No.15564152

>>15564021
Maybe someone needs to stop holding Z for a bit

>> No.15564487

>>15563985
Suika is good. Yukari is OP. The rest are generally garbage. SA's shot types are some of the most poorly balanced in the series.

>Moving fast as shit and getting that pseudo Youmu shot with Aya is great

Yeah, except both the shot and the speed are very hard and distracting to use, which doesn't help in a game where having uninterrupted focus is crucial.

>Marisa actually having ranged attack and being able to reach 8 pow thanks to Alice's dolls

Doesn't really help that 8 power is the same as 4 power for all the other shot types, plus the fact that even though one p block gains you more power with Alice, it still takes significantly more than the other shot types to reach full power. If you ever die or a bomb a bunch, it's extremely difficult to recover, especially since your range is gone. Plus, despite being able to use it more, Alice's bomb sucks. Even if you hit a boss with it it doesn't do that much damage, and it only clears a thin line of bullets.

>All of Patchouli
You mean all of Patchouli being weak as shit and her versatility not mattering because of how little damage she does? Plus a crappy bomb that doesn't even clear the screen or do damage unless you suicide into a boss?

And you didn't mention Nitori, but she's pretty bad. Her shot has no range and doesn't do that much damage. Sure, she has a pretty good bomb, but Reimu A's shot is a lot better than Nitori's with more range and damage, and Reimu A has a better bomb, if only slightly.

SA has some unique shot types but a lot of them just suck, plain and simple.

>> No.15564510

>>15564487
I only mentioned the fun ones, that's why. Nitori seemed like shit in every aspect

>> No.15564514

>>15564487
>>15564510
Also
>but a lot of them just suck, plain and simple.
yeah but that wasn't the point

>> No.15564537

>>15564514
Yeah, I know. I totally agree that the shot types are really unique and creative, but I just think that they could have been implemented a lot better. All of Marisa had so much potential but there's no reason to play her.

I really only 1cc'd the game with Alice, Suika, and Yukari, even though I wanted to do the others too. Nitori sucks too much. Patchy and Aya are too frustrating for me to want to use them.

It's amazing that there are so many unique and creative shot types in the game with different dialogue. I'm just bummed out about how poorly implemented they were.

>> No.15565004
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15565004

First 1cc after a long time of not playing. For some reason I started to die a lot after stage 4.
Here's the replay if for some reason you're interested.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=40993
What do I need to improve on?

>> No.15566016

>>15547901
Yeah I checked the page earlier, the gauge feels hard for me to keep track of but otherwise I think I did alright for a first try.

I got to marisa and died at the second encounter. She threw crap everywhere and it felt like she ate a lot more bullets than the preceding bosses. Practice makes perfect I guess, though.

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>>15543352
I'm not good at Touhou and I'm trying to 100% DS unlike my first playthrough I made at launch where I just went through what I couldn't clear.

And I'm at pic related, help.
Sad part is that in one attempt I got to the third shot and survived long enough to take two photos, too bad I was just far enough to not reach Satori and fail the shot.

>> No.15568358

>>15566059
desu what I did for that one is just do it over and over and over and over until I got lucky and there was a clear path up through the shit to take the third shot

>> No.15570177
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>>15568358
Well, I finally did it, after 556 attempts I managed to go through it.

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I haven't been able to 1cc yet, but it's really nice to see yourself getting better.

Do you guys have some tips for stage 5 and Sakuya? I lose most of my lives there and I really need some for Remilia.

It really feels like there is a huge jump in difficulty after Stage 4.

>> No.15570470

>>15570332
>Do you guys have some tips for stage 5 and Sakuya
Where do you die the most? The red/blue/green stream section before midboss? Misdirection? Some nonspell?

>> No.15570625

>>15570470
>The red/blue/green stream section before midboss?
Yeah that one and the last regular attack before the boss where it's 4 of the blue ones at the same time.

Also, I'm not sure if it's random or based on position but sometimes I cannot seem to find a way through the spellcard misdirection (midboss) because the shots are not aligned.

>> No.15570662

>>15570625
I've never been able to really figure out how to beat misdirection. I was still able to pull off a 1cc on normal but I had to bomb through misdirection

>> No.15570665

>>15570625
>Yeah that one
Position yourself to the bottom as I did in >>15565004 and tap to the sides everytime the bullets come close to you, you should tap 3 times at least, but don't move very much since you'll get hit.
>last regular attack before the boss where it's 4 of the blue ones at the same time.
Stay still until the bullets come close to you and then start slowly tapping to one side until you're in the safe zone. I didn't fuck up that part in my replay at least.

>Also, I'm not sure if it's random or based on position but sometimes I cannot seem to find a way through the spellcard misdirection (midboss) because the shots are not aligned.
If you know the trick that spellcard is the easiet thing. Just stay still below sayuka (left or right) and don't move from there until the bullets are about to hit you, then tap up or down and then tap left right for the knives. Don't worry if you can't hit her when se goes away, it's better that way. I'm sure you can find a YOUTUBE video since everyone does the same thing.

>> No.15570783

>>15570665
Thank you, I will try these next time

>> No.15570939
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>>15570662
Misdirection on normal is very simple

>> No.15571081

>>15570939
You kind of fucked up the beginning a little.

>> No.15571084

>>15570939
>those tiny movements
Huh. No wonder I always have such trouble with it, I move around a bunch to try to continue hitting her. I'll get good one day, when I decide to spend another couple hours playing it.

>> No.15574608

Has anyone here ever managed to improve their gameplay by using better hardware?

I'm thinking about trying to find a more useful keyboard.

>> No.15574704

>>15574608
>Has anyone here ever managed to improve their gameplay by using better hardware?
No.

>> No.15576013

How do I do Hourai Jewel Hard as Solo Reimu without bombing the fuck out of it

Practiced for like an hour but shit's impossible and I can't damage her thanks to her familiars covering her

>> No.15576061
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15576061

So I'm relatively new to touhou, played a bit about 3 or 4 years ago but just picking it up regularly now. Any tips on getting better ? I end up burning through my restarts by stage 4 on most of the games on normal...

>> No.15576103

>>15576013
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=34681
It's not very dense on hard. Almost timed it out. If you want to do more damage, try streaming more slowly while you are in the middle. Anyways, this method should work just fine.

>>15576061
There's not really any secret trick to getting good. Just practice and try to understand how things work. If your credits keep failing, might be a good idea to do stage practice. Watching replays is fine.

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>>15576103
That's true I guess, and starting out with UFO isn't exactly the greatest idea from what I've heard

>> No.15576192

>>15576103
>Visionary Wave ~Mind Blowing~
But I need Hourai Jewel. The card is streaming but it always stumps me and I do zero damage even after like 40 seconds of the card thanks to Familiars

>> No.15576222

>>15576173
UFO isn't exactly bad to start out with. Some people might not like the UFO system or find it overwhelming alongside dodging, but if you like the game then by all means go for it. It's just that if you don't have some sort of UFO route down, you'll be hard pressed to 1cc.

Also forgot to mention setting goals with the intention of moving up to higher difficulties should help with improvement. Maybe this sounds sort of obvious but doing silly completionist challenges like going for all shottypes on normal of every game will hinder progress. Better to aim for higher difficulties so long as it's not overwhelming.

>>15576192
Umm... I'm not sure how that URL got there. Meant to post http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=41010
You're going to do little damage, but that's what you get for choosing solo Reimu. Just gotta last a while.

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>>15576222
Mmm that's true, I really enjoy UFO and Ten Desires since they have my kogasa in it, and Yoshika is a really fun boss and has nice music to it. I tried hard and it's a bit too overwhelming at the moment so I decided I won't move on from normal until I can finish without continuing, than increase the difficulty and repeat the same.. I'll look into the UFO systems I just get whichever 3 I can get right then but I know that's not necessarily ideal

>> No.15576414

>Want to practice a stage 6 I can't beat in IN
>Can never practice it because you have to beat it to unlock it in practice, silly~
>Can't continue spam since you aren't allowed to continue in Stage 6
This system is infuriating

>> No.15576722

>>15574608
I improved a lot since I got my pro controller

>> No.15576731 [DELETED] 

>>15576173
EoSD and MoF are better starting points imo

>> No.15576738

>>15576241
>>15576173
EoSD and MoF are better starting points in my opinion but since you are doing it for your girl, don't give up anon

>> No.15576749

>>15576414
Extra lives. This way you can clear it and practice so you can true 1cc it.
I'm pretty sure that ZUN had this in mind when he decided to let you have up to 7 lives in IN

>> No.15577221

>>15546665
>easy mode
Are you a child or something?

>> No.15577450

IN normal is way to easy, but hard just completely trashes me, I can't get past Reisen, because I run out of bombs and lives at Marisa.

>> No.15578829

>>15577450
Reimu fight is easier if you're willing to use different characters

>> No.15579406

>>15577450
Which cards are giving you trouble?

>> No.15579577

>>15579406
Not him but the one where small stars come from both sides while you have to dodge a constant stream of big stars. Same difficulty.

>> No.15579606

>>15579577
That one is a mess. Advice that was given to me about it was to get yourself into the mode of thought where you dodge the stream of stars going down automatically and worry about the ones on the sides. Not at my pc atm so I can't get a replay.

>> No.15580179
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I need 2 more cards to go...
Is there any way to dodge the Fuji card easily?

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>>15580179
>easily
How much do you like half to full screen dodges?
I forgot how much I hate this card, the hitboxes are bullshit.

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>>15576738
I will continue doing my best so my kogasa will be happy for me ! I cleared 13 on normal today and felt so bad fighting her, she only wanted help beating yoshika...

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>>15580410
You can also look at it as her helping you prepare for Yoshika, friend!

>> No.15580474
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>>15580442
I guess that makes hurting her feel less painful..

>> No.15580484

>>15580474
Just time her out dude

>> No.15580546
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>>15580484
But the scores !

>> No.15580634

>>15580410
Now that I think again, just stick on dumping cute images of her

>> No.15580640

>>15580546
YOUR WAIFU OR SCORES

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>>15580634
But I enjoy the games !
>>15580640
FINE SCORES !

>> No.15581044

Is there any way to practice deathbombing? I'm pretty hit or miss right now.

>> No.15581570

>>15578829
>Reimu fight is easier
nah, uncanny is even worse

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>>15581044
Nice pun.

>> No.15581792

>>15581044
Practice mode in the most shitty stage of EoSD.
EoSD is the hardest when it comes to death bombing, learn how to do it there and you'll do it in every game

>> No.15583016

>>15581792
You mean TD, right?

>> No.15583052

Anyone have the wine configuration instructions that one anon made a long while back?

>> No.15583107

>>15583016
No, EoSD without vsync

>> No.15583210

>>15583107
Vsync is just for making the game run as it is intented on newer hardware. EoSD isn't supossed to have input delay in first place.

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15586978

I'm terrible with curvy lasers, not matter how hard I try I just istinctively follow the direction they are going and end up going pichuun.

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How's this Anons?

>> No.15587382

>>15586978
>Only 100+ retries

Keep trying

>> No.15587453

I just figured out that your bonus lives in IN are tied to the number of point items you pick up.

>> No.15587838

>>15587453
Good job, anon.

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15587881

>>15587382
I managed to clear it, I mostly kept using the camera focus to limit my movement so I wouldn't subconsciously follow the curvy danmaku.

On another note, does anyone know where the thcrap patch saves the replay files? I just can't find them on the original game folder even though they did get saved and are runnable from the game with no problem.

>> No.15587894

>>15587881
AppData\Roaming\ShanghaiAlice\th125\replay

Did you find on that scene it was easier to dodge closer to Iku? Just a little bit more dense, but much slower, I found.

>> No.15587898

>>15587894
Forgot to mention that I have no idea about thcrap, but that's just where replays are normally saved for later gamse

>> No.15587906

>>15587894
>>15587898
Thanks anon, it worked. Yes, I did stay close to her, between the two circles more or less.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=41033

>> No.15587942

>>15587881
>On another note, does anyone know where the thcrap patch saves the replay files?
thcrap doesn't affect that. They will be saved here >>15587894 regardless of anything.

>> No.15588988

I can't do it it's too hard even on normal.. Should I just swallow my pride and play on easy until I can finish a game?

>> No.15589765

>>15588988
What game are you having trouble on?

>> No.15589856

>>15589765
UFO and Ten desires, I'm new to the genera as a whole so I'm struggling pretty badly.

>> No.15590351

>>15589856
If anything of the two, start with Ten Desires. UFO gets hairy around Yoshika for the inexperienced. More so of a item gather and utilize items when needed game. But, I think a really good point would be Imperishable Night. That game to me I feel is the point where ZUN really got his style tightened up as far as recurring shot types in future games from them on, plus they both have spell practice. Just practice. I'm coming up on my first year playing 2hu. Practice, find stages you like, grab a pair of over ear headphones so you can hear your shots hitting and just immerse yourself.

>> No.15590358

>>15590351
Whoops. Kogasa in UFO (stage 2) will test your mettle rather. But Yoshika in Ten Desires is to be respected as well.

>> No.15590952
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15590952

Today I've beaten my previous highscore on IN's Extra, and it was with a team that I don't normally play.

The previous highscore was 1.344. Why is Reimu/Yukari so much stronger than the rest?

>> No.15591001

>>15590952
Raymoo wrecks stages easily and Ran does decent damage.

>> No.15591013

>>15562960
Impressive how such a little thing makes it all go wrong...

>> No.15591052

>>15591001
Most parts of the stage that gave me a hard time when playing as the Magic Team were nothing to Reimu. Also, the time to deathbomb with the Border Team is so big that it's almost impossible to lose a life with bombs left.

>> No.15591055

>>15591052
Reimu is really strong during stages, because she has good damage and her bullets are fairly fast.

>> No.15591061

>>15591055
Yeah, later the homing amulets got a nerf. It's almost broken.

>> No.15591068

>>15591061
Reimu is the main reason I prefer playing 4B over 4A, and also because the Marisa fight is way easier than the Reimu fight.

>> No.15591076

>>15563985
>>15564510
>SA shot types are the fucking best
>But I only meant the 2-3 actially good ones

>> No.15591077

>>15591068
Since when I started playing, I used mostly Marisa. The Reimu fight made me even dislike her, but her danmaku is pretty cool. It took me a long time to like Reimu again.

>> No.15591083

>>15591077
IN made me warm up to Reimu a lot, because you can play far more aggressively if you don't have to aim and deal actual damage.

>> No.15591092

>>15590952
>Why is Reimu/Yukari so much stronger than the rest?

-Both shot types are good, Reimu annihilates pretty much every regular enemy and Ran shits on fairies
-Reimu is immune to familiars
-Deathbomb timing is so much more lenient that you should really never die with bombs left
-You get to fight Marisa instead of Reimu

Border Team is also fun to play even though they're ridiculously strong.

>> No.15591099

>>15591083
What makes me upset is that I always get better scores when playing Reimu, but Marisa is still my favorite between the two. Every game, I feel divided in choosing one of them.

>>15591092
Also, the smaller hitbox, right?

>> No.15591155 [DELETED] 

Am I the only one who thinks the Marisa fight in IN is easier than Reimu?

>> No.15591163

Am I the only one who thinks the Marisa fight in IN is harder than Reimu?

>> No.15591164

>>15591163

Nope. Marisa's nonspells are a pain for me. Maybe it's because I don't play against her that much, so I'm not used to it.

>> No.15591165

>>15591099
I adore how the moment you get full power in stage 2 as Reimu the entire game changes instantly.

>>15591163
Marisa's nonspells are fucking retarded, but her spells are really easy.
Everything in the Reimu fight is just fucking retarded.

>> No.15591177

>>15591165
The stages are so easy with Reimu, it's not even funny.

I find the second, fourth and last word spell cards somewhat hard. Maybe it's because I never practiced them.

>> No.15594554

>>15591165
>Her spells are easy
>Magic Space ~Astroid Belt~

>> No.15594746

>>15594554
bomb it
you're handed two bombs right before.

>> No.15594772

I'm trying to 1cc ufo normal without spellcards. Am I doing it correctly?

>> No.15594786

>>15594746
>It's easy if you bomb it
Good job, you described every spell in every game except EX bosses, Final boss' final, and Last Words/Overdrives

>> No.15595271

Got to Orin with 7 lives and didn't make it to stage 6 anyways
What the fuck was he thinking?

>> No.15595276

>>15594772
just play the game normally
and while you're at it, play a better 2hou game.
Like IN, the best game in the series.

>> No.15595467

is there an english patch for riverbed soul saver?

>> No.15595489

>>15595271
He didn't press X.

>> No.15596599

What's the secret trick using Aya shottype in SA?

>> No.15596761

>>15596599
using a shot type that isn't awful

>> No.15599012

>>15596599
memorize many things

>> No.15599159

Flandre's stage is so boring holy shit it's one of the biggest reasons I hate fighting her

>> No.15599691

>>15596599
bombing

>> No.15600273

>>15596599
Stop shooting and bomb flying everywhere

>> No.15601707

I played EoSD seriously for the first time tonight.
This game is pure fun, I think I finally understand why people love the SDMs.

I demolished the first 3 stages near effortlessly, but then I lost two lives at Patchy on her retarded "non-directional laser" non spells.
Sakuya was wonderful, I can't think of a single gimmick fight that manages to make the gimmick feel exciting and threatening at the same time.
I lost most of my lives to clumsy play during her non spells. Her last spell card is super intense and really fun.

I went into stage 6 with no lives and no bombs, beat Sakuya again, despite her retarded non-spell.
Remi got me on that non spell with the big red bullets followed by lots of little bullets, I think it's her third.

Overall this probably the most enjoyable 2hou after IN.

>> No.15601966 [DELETED] 

>>15595276
IN is shit

>> No.15602163
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15602163

Do you focus more on collecting [P]s or [点]s first?

>> No.15602168

>>15602163
[P]s if I can only choose one

>> No.15602257

Clownpiece should have had fireworks themed Danmaku, at least one spellcard. Like a survival spell where one bullet would go up from the bottom and burst into many more bullets at a time. It would get faster as the card went on, and eventually get really fast.

>> No.15602353

Started playing through the games with all the characters and their shot types to see the different endings and dialogue. Have to say this beats reading it on Touhouwiki by a long mile. Just pick a difficulty that won't make you bored, so don't do it on Easy.

>> No.15602433

>>15602163
Full power so I can poc for point items at max value.

>> No.15602759

>>15602433
>his game doesn't let him poc

>> No.15603783

>>15602759
no sorry i only play EoSD

>> No.15608165

>>15545803
W-want to netplay IaMP? Where are you located, friend? That goes for anyone else, too.

>> No.15608167

>>15608165
No.

>> No.15608188

>>15608167
I'm so alone... You've broke my heart...

>> No.15608272

>>15608165
i don't know how to do that and i'm not port forwarded and also on vacation
also that other guy isn't me

>> No.15609669

>>15608272
But there are only two people on /jp/

>> No.15610025

>>15608165
just play soku like everyone else

>> No.15610194

>>15602163
Picking all those Ps in EoSD is a fun challenge, especially because if you don't Cirno rapes you.

>>15608165
I'd play with you since iamp is the only touhou fighter I like although I'm pretty bad, but my router is kind of faulty right now.

>> No.15610209

>>15610025
Soku is fucking shit.

>> No.15610288

>>15610209
yea but iamp is worse
just play a real fightan game, pref. without footsies, fuck that shit.

>> No.15611368

>>15610288
>yea but iamp is worse
Not worse, different.

>> No.15611868

>>15610194
It's fine if you're not the best, I'm no pro, either. Let me know if you get your router fixed or whatever.

>> No.15611908

How do you guys working through all the series deal with burnout ? After finally beating SA I have just lost my ability to sit and practice in long sessions now that I am trying to beat UFO.

>> No.15612370

>>15611908
when i get burned out on the main games i play danmakufu stuff instead

>> No.15612653

>>15611908
I think about killing myself until my motivation comes back.

>> No.15613406

>>15611908
I play other games until I feel like playing touhou again.

I've been trying to beat SA hard for months now and just can't. Even after taking breaks it doesn't take long for the burnout to build back up. I'm getting ready to give up.

>> No.15614354

>>15543352
Working on SA extra (Reimu B). Progress would be better, but I continue to make mistakes in the first half of the stage and restart. Koishi isn't too hard though.

>> No.15614743

>>15614354
Yeah, that's how it went with me, too. Koishi's boss fight is really great and so is Sanae but I find the stage to be tedious.

>> No.15615214

How does one deathbomb? Im trying to beat EoSD extra but third Patchouli spell always hit me at some point, and maze of love is just ridiculous to dodge in the bottom.

When i hear i get hitted i press X like crazy.

>> No.15615218

>>15615214
just don't death bomb and use bombs as intended.
Either at the start of a spell card or when you've gotten yourself into a situation you can't get out of.

just play some Marisa B in MoF, so you understand the proper use of bombs.

>> No.15615269

>>15615214
>How does one deathbomb?
If you have at least one bomb in stock and you get hit, there's a very brief moment where you can press the bomb key and you'll bomb instead of dying. The exact window is different for each game (it's variable in EoSD and IN, other games have it at about a quarter of a second and TD has it at less than a tenth of a second).

Doing this in a consistent manner takes a lot of skill and practice, so if you're a novice you should stick to using bombs regularly or else you'll just be wasting bombs, lives and time.

>> No.15616972

>>15614743
Actually got to Koishi's seventh spell. Things are getting better but I'll always find Sanae's Rice Shower to be a huge pain. Also the tunnel vision from playing the same stage too much is getting to me.

>> No.15619546

Clownpiss is absurd

I am this close to breaking my fingers and gouge my eyes out, so I can finally stop playing.
Also I'm going to puncture my eardrums because I can't listen to that fucking tune

please send help

>> No.15619585

>>15619546
What are you going for? If you're frustrated, calm down and take a break, you'll play better that way.

>> No.15619604

>>15619546
junko is far worse
its like clowpiece but with even more FUNNY GIMMICKS
even have shittier theme to torture you

>> No.15619629

>>15619604
>FUNNY GIMMICKS
Fuck this game, it's an entire five stages of FUNNY GIMMICKS
God, LoLK makes me angry.

It's not even an actually fun gimmick like Sakuya's or Satori's.

>> No.15619633

>>15619629
There are always better games to play instead, like PCB.

>> No.15619640

>>15619633
I don't want to.
I want to clear LoLK already.
But I can't go back to Clownpiss right now, because I might break something.

>> No.15619646

>>15619640
Okay. Well good luck with that. Maybe go practice a different stage then.

>> No.15619781

>>15619640
Which difficulty?

>> No.15619800

>>15619781
Hard w. Pointdevice
And Clownpiss apparently being pure gimmick trash is probably not going to be any easier on normal.

>> No.15619814

>>15619800
Normal Pointdevide took me forever, mostly because of her endurance spells.

>> No.15621110
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15621110

Is MarisaBomb the cheese pick of EoSD?

>> No.15621428

>>15621110
I like A

>> No.15624409

So for some reason other games play fine, but certain touhou games have huge fps drops, even when the screen has fuck all. I can play EoSD and MoF fine, but IN and SA are insanely slow reaching 9fps at worst.
Previously IN was fine, I thought my PC may be dirty, it was but cleaning hasnt solved the issue. Again other games play fine e.g Divinity Original Sin.

>> No.15624509

>>15621110
MarisaA is easier on normal.

>> No.15624513

>>15624409
Driver issues most likely.

>> No.15624541

>>15624513
How would I fix it?
PC's arent my strong point.

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15624619

strongest rpg

>> No.15629363

How can I beat SA stage 5? Don't "heh, take Yukari, ez", it's NOT. I'm not even trying to actually beat the game, I just want to play all the levels, but the continue system doesn't allow me.

>> No.15629431

>>15629363
play lunatic

>> No.15629434

>>15621110
Patchy uses the hardedst spells for Marisa B, though.

>> No.15629725

>>15629434
Really? I think ReimuB and MarisaA's Patchy is harder, but maybe that's just me.

>> No.15629783

>>15629363
Other than git gud, just keep trying
>the continue system
You'll need to beat the level eventually with only 3 lives so why not just practice using it? You'll eventually beat it

>> No.15629818

>>15629363
Stage 5 has a lot of parts where you need to positionate yourself correctly to get trough the patterns efficiently. Try to plan routes for destroying the familiars and the streaming parts. Orin's spellcards also have gimmicks, like, in zombie fairy you need to lure the fairies on the top of the screen, mountain of needlees always spawn aimed circles slightly to the right, etc.
After you have practiced for a while you'll realize that the only hard part of the stage is the midboss sspellcard "cat walk"

>> No.15630106

>>15629725
That's only on hard and above. On normal ReimuB gets one hard spellcard but it's nothing compared to that triathlon shit that MarisaA gets.

>> No.15630380
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15630380

Which bomb system do you prefer, MoF/SA or a separate counter?

>>15629818
>After you have practiced for a while you'll realize that the only hard part of the stage is the midboss sspellcard "cat walk"
And just for clearing purposes, that can be bombed with no loss of power.

>> No.15630402

>>15630380
I always end up fucking myself over when its linked to power, unless its MoF where you can abuse it to have essentially infinite bombs during stages if you time it right.

>> No.15630571

>>15630380
Fuck Mof bombing system. It's not easy to balance, ZUN couldn't do it.

>> No.15631701

>>15630380
Real western touhou experts play without bombs.

>> No.15631730

>>15631701
Funny joke.

>> No.15632431

>>15631701
then levels four and above happen; and your screen is more crowded than a Japanese tube train at rush hour..

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15632479

Hijiri is fun.

>> No.15632504

>>15632479
Some good percentages in card clearances there, I am impressed!

>> No.15632517

>>15632504
Thanks! I need all the practice I can get for future goals.

>> No.15635703

It's been a few months since I played Touhou but I've still been playing danmaku games. Right now I'm trying to 1cc Ketsui.

>> No.15637063

How do I get good at this?
It's hard to focus on where you are and keep track of bullets.
EoSD is kicked my ass.
Playing PCB now and how do you handle stage 4? It drained me of bombs due to all the bullets, I cant kill enemies quick enough to avoid flooding the screen.

Where would EoSD fall on the difficultyspectrum of 2hu? I feel PCB iz easier and my deaths were more minor mistakes than EoSD where I just felt fucked.

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15637149

your all shit at video games
kill you'reselves

>> No.15637176

>>15635703
Good luck with that. As a Touhou player, Ketsui felt very difficult and unintuitive for me when I tried it. I wasn't sure how to kill enemies and restream everything in time. Routing out the game even just for a 1-ALL seemed like a fair amount of work. Ketsui looks like a cool game, but I've got my hands all tied up with playing PCB right now, so maybe I will play it at some point in the future if I ever get around to it.

>>15637063
A lot of practice, as you would expect.
>Playing PCB now and how do you handle stage 4?
It's mostly streaming. I suggest watching some replays.

EoSD gives less resources. It's a harder game to 1cc than PCB, but probably falls somewhere around the middle in terms of clearing difficulty compared to the rest of the Touhou games.

>> No.15640046

Currently drunk, reached Youmu in PCB Abolitionists BFO. She's my bnw pr drubkot sober I shall hetr by bworship nd rvete the dork for I am Zun's chosn, his anonted.
Soon Yuyjrk,then Ran.
Fuck I 'love touhou, I learnedve yu tooo / my belovdvjp, donr you evev forget that, you are all @precioes tio me never fotget tha.
Not in the gat wzy, but geeks ghad rifferent lovres, Enflifg id a failutre iv cant inecapsulate love, biut lov is all Hace, I just cabt express it sober. I wont kill muselr, fot you my jp sarlibgs, o are all ptrecious to me, nevet fpoget that. Soo Will grow y own boozer drunk, hen have no need to sepherate myself from you, Ui'm ashamed to buy erink while dru k bitbonlu buybbeinf drunk am I tood at vifdaya an a bl rp sa I love you /jp/ please dony zn hrto, I love you and need you, plese recobsidersicid, I beg you. People like myslf, guneinely love each andeveryone oe of you.Wvnyou fags calling toyhoia gat. Patchy osnr dat, just lazy. Patchy is a miracle as is every touhou. Personally O ilove them all. Excepr Eimuwhon may eterminwte qts.
Wg an I happier when drunk. Better att games when drubkit's unfair.
But my most imortant meessage Id i Love /jp/ please acceptm non g ayb love.. If youvare gay,stop tainting my pure lov with fleshy desire. emvrace Buddhism and relingquish desires.? FuxkByakuwen togh,she wi'll lad gpo

How doi get into tpocklimbing?
I want to flmb mountwins likevEverest?
zloce, annon, pl dont abn heto.

>> No.15640152

>>15637176
Thanks. I also found Ketsui difficult when I first started (and still do) but I've improved a lot. I can get to stage 4 without a continue semi-consistently now.

>> No.15640170

Went for a quick IN normal clear today, to make me feel better about myself, because I still can't clear EoSD Hard.

Why is IN so much fun?

>> No.15640466

>>15640170
EoSD will always be near and dear to my heart because of the nostalgia. Haven't been working on hard clear but the closest I got a year ago was stage 5. I thing it's potentially easier than IN hard, because I have a hard time with the familiars and with clearing bullets at the given opportunities. I love IN's spell challenges and the Extra is my favorite of any Touhou game, plus the music is some of the best.

>> No.15640496

>>15637063
>PCB stage 4
Half of these things don't release bullets if you don't shoot them.

Learning the stages and giveaway cards will give you a hard/lunatic clear in pretty much every game (except UFO, fuck UFO).

>> No.15641424

My ability to deathbomb has deteriorated. I attempted to 1CC EoSD, PCB, SA, and LoLK today and I managed to deathbomb twice in all of the attempts. How can I practice this again?

>> No.15642648

>>15640046
That is some outstanding next level shitposting.

>> No.15642685

>>15642648
the old adage of "Never post anything when you are drunk" is pretty self evident there, by the way can't wait for the English language version of what he's written.

>> No.15642714

>>15642648
I think he's legit drunk

>> No.15643089

>>15640046
I've posted drunk before, hammered even.
You don't fool me, anon.

>> No.15643194

touhou is so easy for me

>> No.15644152
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15644152

somebody save me

>> No.15644180

>>15644152
go to /v/ and write that lolk is shit

>> No.15644206

>>15644180
fuck off lolkidf

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15644348

>>15640046
noone on the internet knows you are suika

noone

>> No.15644490

>>15644152
It's easy once you realize the trick.

>> No.15644491

>>15644490
I know the trick.
I'm just clumsy as fuck.

>> No.15644568

>>15642648
I was drunk.

>>15642685
I'm not going to translate, all that was relevent was
>Currently drunk, reached Youmu in PCB Abolitionists BFO. She's my bnw pr drubkot sober

Playing PCB drunk, set a new personal record drunk or sober.

I later said I seemed better at touhou when drunk.
Nothing else was relevent, just rambling about ZUN, love, /jp/, touhou and for some reason rock climbing at the end.

>>15643089
I'm a lightweight and drank a fair amount of vodka on an empty stomach in under an hour. Also typing with a wii-u hence my spelling being worse than regular drunk posts would be.

>>15644348
Please stop responding and report my post as spam. It's too old to be deleted and it's off topic.

>> No.15645003

>>15644568
i liked you better when you were drunk

>> No.15645488

>>15643194
post scores

>> No.15645505
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Reminder that scoring is fun and gives you a more complete understanding of bullet patterns.

>> No.15645531

>>15645505

No wonder this shitty game genre died.

>> No.15645620

>>15645505
That's how I always played that stage.
I'm clumsy as hell and bad at weaving.

>> No.15646008

Set a new record.
Accidentally hit z and quit when I still had continues.

Prismriver sisters suck, before I did ok, but I think spellcards changed and I used my first continue there.
Then got murdered in stage 5, I cant handle all those bullets.
BTW anything I can do about those bubbles that shoot at you?

>> No.15646065

>>15646008
>but I think spellcards changed
Yeah, they can do that. During their first spellcard, depending on which of the three sisters you shoot more, you have face her next. So if you shoot Lunasa more than the others, then the next non-spell and spell will be Lunasa's, if you shoot Lyrica more than the others, then the nex non-spell and spell will be Lyrica's and so on.

>> No.15646649

>>15645505
Next you're going to say you have a 30% meister capture rate

>> No.15646914

>>15646065
Is Merlin actually the hardest?

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15646926

>>15645505
Scoring (for westerners) is just spamming credits until you luck out. But I like it.

>> No.15647189

>>15646914
Merlin has a pretty tough opener nonspell but otherwise I find that Lunasa is the hardest overall. Don't quote me on that though because I usually fight Lyrica.

>> No.15648223

>>15646914
>>15647189
Merlin is the white one right?
Yep, she fucked me over.

>> No.15650579

The difficulty gap between LoLK easy mode and LoLK normal mode is just insane.

I went from fighting with everything I got and making it to Clownpiece (Junko once) by using all continue in Normal mode to making a 1CC on the first time doing Easy mode.

You especially feel it when you fight the shitty clown.

>inb4 "ez modo lel git gud scrub"

No I won't "git gud". There's "difficult but fun" and "sadistic" and LoLK belongs to the latter.

>> No.15650620

>>15650579
Oh btw, this is a special tribute to the American Touhou. Those who know will understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGuHOyiYOTA

>> No.15650630

>>15650579
Who are you quoting?

>> No.15650645

>>15650579
>Easy modo
Kyahahahaha.

>> No.15650667

>>15650579
git gud scrub

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>>15650579

>> No.15650691

>>15650579
So you're telling me ez modo is actually easier than Normal mode? Holy shit dude, I would have never guessed that.

>There's "difficult but fun" and "sadistic" and LoLK belongs to the latter.
It's not "sadistic", it's just balanced around Pointdevice.

>>15650620
No fuck you, Megaman 2 was actually sadistic.

>lol if u don't have any of this wepon then u can't beat the game xD
Horrible fucking design, I can't believe people still think MM2 is good.

>> No.15650699

>>15650579
>easy modo
Isn't that for children?
My four year old sister plays easy modo.

>> No.15650712

>>15650691
Dude, if you really believe Megaman 2 was hard, then you're the fucking scrub around. Aside from the Heatman segment with the tiles, this game is easy as fuck.

>> No.15650730

>>15650579
Playing on Normal also grants more opportunity to get Life Pieces. Stop playing on Easy.

>>15650712
Heatman is just muscle memory and rhythm.

The Boobeam Trap fight is bullshit because it's a puzzle boss you can easily lose, and after you fail one attempt you either have to refill Crash Bombs or Game Over and do the stage again.

>> No.15650763

>>15650730
>berate me for not being able to play a danmaku at a sufficient level of difficulty
>can't into the most simple retro Megaman game
Kyahahahaha.

>more life pieces
Sure, but obstacles such as Doremi or Clownpiece are quite scary in normal mode. I've been trying to get the patterns but the RNG aspect is too big.

>> No.15650782

>>15650763
>Implying pointing out the flaws of MM2 means I can't beat it
m8 I've done no hit buster only runs of that game, don't try me.

>> No.15651013

>>15650712
Bullshit =/= hard

Quickman's lasers, the boobeam trap and the alien boss are bullshit, they are not hard. They can put you into really unfair situations until you know exactly what to do and if you don't then tough shit, you're insta-killed or forced to grind or forced to kill yourself until you get a game over with no ways around any of those.

>> No.15651023

>>15651013
I don't think Alien Boss is bullshit if only because you'll never use Bubble Lead outside Heat Man and you get a shitload of ammo for it

but we're going off topic

>> No.15651251

>>15651023
>you'll never use Bubble Lead
invisible floors

you know, the one instance where they're useful rather than useless or mandatory

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15651793

>SA normal 1CC
Feels satisfying, especially after having spent some time in practice mode. Felt a bit funny to have 8 lives at one point at Okuu during the actual run when I finally attempted it. Finished with five.

>> No.15651795

i'm interested in writing a learning algorithm that would learn the input sequence for clearing one or more levels / games. my idea is to begin with genetic algorithm-style learning, to help me lay foundations

are any of the games possible to clear without any vertical movement? I've seen a couple of videos for particular fights / sequences but it doesn't seem like a common restriction people use. is this because it's unnecessarily hard, or not known to be possible? if it is possible, which games allow for this?

>> No.15651893

>>15651795
I'm pretty sure I could beat EoSD without vertical movement on normal and below.

>> No.15652033

>>15651795
Its possible for a bunch of them (I'm pretty sure the first windows trilogy at least) but it can get really hard.

>> No.15652399

>>15651893
I just tried it on normal and it's hard as balls, easier than lunatic though. It felt like playing EoSD for the first time again.

>> No.15652434

>>15543352
I just started playing the games, I'm in TH8 and I can't beat the first boss. Why is this game so fucking hard?

>> No.15652668

>>15651795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEnSnTLZkYI
Even times out Boundary of Life and Death, you know for shits and giggles

>> No.15652785

>>15652434
Don't worry anon, just keep trying and you'll eventually get it

>> No.15654302
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What spell cards (or non-spells) are easier on higher difficulties? Mountain of Faith (the attack, not game) on easy/normal is probably a good example.

>> No.15654592
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>>15654302
This one

Dunno about Easy, but this spell is at its hardest in Normal

>> No.15655390

Does SanaeB in UFO do more damage unfocused or am I imagining it?

>> No.15655412
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>>15655390
I think it's about the same. Unfocused shotgun with 3 power does more damage than focused shotgun though. Stuff like that.

source for pic https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=181.0

>> No.15655427

>>15655390
It depends on what power you're at and whether you're shotgunning. I assume you're talking about a single target.

At 1 power, unfocused and shotgunning (2 frogs hitting) does more than focused with the 1 frog hitting.

At 2 power, unfocused in general does more, especially since it's hard to hit a single target with both frogs.

At 3 power, unfocused with 2 frogs hitting does way more damage than focused with 3 frogs hitting. In certain scenarios, you can even get more than 2 to hit unfocused.

At 4 power, focused shotgunning with all 6 frogs hitting does the most damage. Focused with only 4 frogs hitting still does more than unfocused.

Then there are some strange things you can do like focus to get maximum damage output for most of the time, but then unfocus for the last few moments to get the boost in base shot power while the lingering frog damage does its work, shaving off fractions of seconds. This is more important for killing enemies at proper times and not such a huge deal when increasing your spell card bonus, but it helps there too.

>> No.15656042
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Fucking why

>> No.15656112

>>15656042
Maybe someone could help if you gave some context.

>> No.15656199

>>15656042
Open your Task Manager, see if there are any thXX.exe processes just hanging around, kill those and try opening the game again.

>> No.15656204

>>15656042
Are you using applocale? That's 99% of most people's problems who aren't used to Jap games.

>> No.15656234

"This will be the end of my stupid mistakes", says increasingly nervous player for the 7th time this stage.

>> No.15656239

>>15656234
Oh, a horror story!

>> No.15656255

>>15655412
Which shot type is better, Snakes or Frogs?

>> No.15656272

>>15656255
Frogs, by far.

>> No.15656552

>>15656272
They help make bosses faster but I keep getting inconsistent UFO results compared to Snakes

>> No.15656577

>>15656112
>>15656199
>>15656204
It crashed when I tried to start it and my dumb ass didn't close the .exe process before trying to start it again.

Took me an hour to realize why it wasn't working

>> No.15656824

>>15656272
I hate frogs. I've never beaten UFO with frogs.

>> No.15656860

>>15656552
The spread allows you to take out both enemies and the UFO at the same time. If you manage your shot and movement, you can definitely get more done with frogs.

>> No.15656938

Pisses me off that I have to beat a stage first to mess with it in practice mode in IN.

Can I still unlock a stage for practice if I use a continue

>> No.15656962

>>15656938
Yes

For stage 6 in Practice, just let yourself start out with like a gorillion lives. Not a legit 1cc but will likely have you do well enough that you can practice for the real 1cc

>> No.15657024

>>15656962
Its pretty sad I didn't think of that before, thank you.

I'm still trying to deal with stage 5 right now but I'll keep that in mind for 6 when I get back home.

Speaking of things I should've already pondered. Is it reasonable to shoot some of the slaves the bosses use for their attacks? I only noticed how many bullets were coming from them instead of the boss my last playthough. Most of the time I got in fights with bosses I stayed focused the entire time because of the gauge, but that time I started using reimu for some cards, and that's when I thought about the slaves.

>> No.15657076

>>15657024
>Is it reasonable to shoot some of the slaves the bosses use for their attacks?
Yes, it is reasonable. Some spells can actually become pretty annoying if you don't deal with the slaves. Like Keine's Ephemerality, for instance.

>> No.15657080

>>15657076
>tfw I never to bother with Keine's familiars because her fight is one of the funniest ones as it is
I do have to destroy Marisa's though, there is this spell that will make a barriers of stars if you don't get rid of some

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>>15657080
>stars
their hitboxes trigger me immensely

>> No.15657176

>>15657076
I don't have too much trouble with that spell, but Three Sacred Treasures is a headache for me to deal with.

>>15657080
Is there a possibility you're talking about a non-spell? There's a pattern she does in the first encounter that has this pink tentacle of stars that never fails to force me to bomb or die.

>> No.15657186

>>15657176
>Is there a possibility you're talking about a non-spell?
There is, since I never pay attention to what is what

>> No.15657228

>>15657186
Alright, either way I messed around with trying to blow up the slave that caused that densely-packed arm but I don't think I can realistically get rid of it with the border team. I did manage to step around it entirely though, that solves that issue.

>> No.15657241

>>15657228
I used to get rid of them with Ghost team, but since now I only play with Yuyu, I'll just have to actually dodge

>> No.15657257

>Nue's stage is bullshit
>Nue herself relies entirely on element of surprise
This EX Stage is the anti-fun I swear

>> No.15657262

>>15657257
Nue is ezpz
Kogasa is the true extra

>> No.15657289

>>15657262
She is EZ peez, I just don't like restarting the stage over and over since I keep dying while UFO hunting and fucking up Kosaga

>> No.15659702

Are the conditions for a last spell from a boss in IN related to obtaining enough time orbs to get to rank 1?

>> No.15659707
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how do I beat this without bombing

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>>15659702
Dunno how it relates to the rank, but you just need to collect enough orb. This amount is shown at the right of your current collection.

>>15659707
With a lot of patience. It took me 2034 retries

>> No.15659742

>>15659724
Alright, same deal I think.

Thought it was related to spell card success for a while.

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Taking that one last shot was quite obnoxious since being able to recharge before the attack comes is borderline impossible. In fact I didn't even bother avoiding it at the end and this happened, I got crossed twice.

>> No.15661014

What are some of the most infamous/difficult/flashy spellcards? Things like Honest Man's Death or Resurrection Butterfly

I want to watch some cool stuff

>> No.15661086

>>15661014
Honest Man's Death is way more bullshit than difficult, and is an overall poorly designed spell card

there's literally no hint that you're supposed to go through the laser, it's fucking stupid

>> No.15661141

>>15661014
Some stuff off the top of my head: Scarlet Meister, Scarlet Gensokyo, QED, God's Flashing Slash, Double Death Butterfly, Appolo 13, Fujiyama Volcano, Peerless Wind God, Virtue of Wind God, Catwalk, Atomic Fire, Petaflare, Greatest Treasure, Vajra of Perfect Buddhism, Nirvana's Cloudy Way in Purple, LFS.

>> No.15661185

>>15661014
Border of wave and particle > all

>> No.15661360

>>15650579
>ez modo
How gross

>>15650699
Kyahahaha!

>> No.15662337

>>15650579
You could just say you like playing the easier mode you know, there's nothing wrong with a level being hard. No one's forcing you to play something at a level you don't like, and Touhou didn't get a reputation for being easy.

I always play on normal and I never use continues, and I'll always restart if I loose a life before reaching the second stage final boss.

>> No.15662868

>>15662337
>I always play on normal and I never use continues, and I'll always restart if I loose a life before reaching the second stage final boss.
That's a bad habit

>> No.15663430

>>15662337
You should probably only do that on Stage 1.

>> No.15663775

Man, I sure love having zero time to gather my UFOs on the EX stage

Should I just bomb when i see the UFOs I want? Would that kill the UFO itself too early?

>> No.15663960

>>15663775
Is the UFO worth it?

>> No.15663979

>>15662337
>and I never use continues, and I'll always restart if I loose a life before reaching the second stage final boss.
I do that too. I also have Lunatic 1ccs, so you're on the right path.

>> No.15664962

>>15662868
>>15663430
I've got OCD so any kind of messing up on a stage I could previously clear flawlessly triggers me.

>> No.15665673

I might be missing something but I seriously can't find any information about death bomb/last spell timings for IN.

The wiki says that it depends on character and number of bombs left. I've noticed that the red flash + longer timing only happens when 2-3 or more bombs are available for a last spell, but I have no idea what actually triggers it. Anyone know?

>> No.15666590

>>15665673
I think you get a that longer time only during spells, but don't quote me on that one.

>> No.15668845

>>15663979
I don't do that. In fact I recommend suiciding immediately in SA. I also have LNBs.

>> No.15668966

So I'm playing 6 and 8 alternatively, what touhou games should I play going into the series? Like, which ones are the hardest, the best, the most popular, etc.

>> No.15669006

>>15668966
Juts play whatever you want you dumbo.

>which ones are the hardest
Subjetive. Specially if you are talking about higher difficulties. Thought most people agree that LoLK and SA are a little harder than the rest.
>the best
Extremely subjetive
>the most popular
The first windows trilogy

>> No.15675909

I finally 1cc'd PCB on Hard today. It was my first hard 1cc ever, I'm happy even if I did have to bombspam a lot.

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>>15675909
Congrats anon

>> No.15677116

I like marisa better than reimu but I have no idea how I'm supposed to use her, which is obviously going to be different from reimu.

>> No.15677885

How anyone can fight Hectatia it's completely beyond me

>> No.15681320

>>15654302
If I'm not mistaken, some of Eirin's last spellcards were a bit easier on Lunatic before the faster bullets disappeared earlier.

>> No.15683170

>>15677116
Which game?

>> No.15683371

>>15683170
EoSD

Nevermind, I get it now.

>> No.15688457

Does anyone else here get pissed off really easily?

Does it affect how well you play to a significant degree?

>> No.15688646

>>15688457
>Does anyone else here get pissed off really easily?
No, not really. I guess that's because I do genuinely enjoy these games and want to get good.

>Does it affect how well you play to a significant degree?
When I do get frustrated from 2hu, it doesn't really affect how well I play by much. It just makes me want to stop and take a break.

>> No.15689187

>>15543352
PCB on Lunatic, playing them

>> No.15689191

>>15546820
the furthest i made it without a continue was to yuyuko, and then died. on EOSD, I made it to Remilia, and died, but used many continues before.

>> No.15689241

>>15688646
It is not really out of dislike or enjoyment of these games, most of the time I play games, they're RPGs, possibly MMOs,, and it's very refreshing to play something where all the improvement you'll ever get comes not from mashing attack all day for a couple weeks but from your personal skill.

I think when I get shot, it sets me off, maybe it's because of the death noise? Maybe it's because of what the noise signifies. Perhaps I could somehow change it so that instead I hear a kitten meowing.

Actually right now I'm actually pretty mad since I got killed in stage 1 two or something runs ago, but it doesn't seem to have affected me so greatly that my ability to play was compromised. Might've overestimated the tilt bogeyman there.

>> No.15689329

>>15689241
>Perhaps I could somehow change it so that instead I hear a kitten meowing
I see you have yet to play SA, such sounds won't be pleasing anymore after that

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>>15595276
I like all of them, but my Fav is EoSD... My waifu, Remi-chan or Flan.... uguu~~~

>> No.15689621

>>15675909
i beat PoFV on Normal once with no continues. is very frustrating

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