Touhou Gameplay Thread

[Anonymous No.]

I hope anon that always makes those doesn't get mad.
Btw how do you make a 360/Pro controller to work with these games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437599
2hu danmakus are the only danmakus I ever rage at
there is so much random bullshit going on, I just want to enjoy the colors and music

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437599
Should be recognized as a directinput device.

>>15437720
90% of the projectiles are completely ignorable, the rest are easily predictable. There's only a handful of bosses with strange spellcards that you need to pay attention to, but even then once you learn their pattern it's nothing to worry about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437747
>learn their pattern
this is something I dislike personally, I just don't feel like replaying th07 stage 5 ten times just so I can learn how to dodge single spellcard if I'm not going for a world record

;-;

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437762
Youmu is one of those "easily predictable" bosses, with some micrododging.

The stage is nearly 100% streaming, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437747
>Should be recognized as a directinput device.
I solved it already, turns out I had winusoft instead of winupro, so then i mapped the buttons to keys and there.
Also, I was able to reach Eirin which is a qt with the ghosts

[Anonymous No.]

UFO MarisaB LNB ayyy

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437823
Youmu's shot is pretty strong if you tap shift to reset it! Just not as useful on moving bosses or in situations where you have to be moving, but then Yuyuko's spread shot helps there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437947
What are you doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437953
I was too overwhelmed at the time, gomen

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437948
Yes, also I can already properly use Youmus phantom to my advantage, and Yuyuko obliterates shitty enemies

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437953
Actually, that should be pointing to 'Home', or 'P', which are the built-in screenshot keys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437747
>but even then once you learn their pattern it's nothing to worry about.
Ohhh, I wish. It sounds simple, but the learning part may stretch into infinity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15438739
>>15437747
That also only applies for attacks that are actually patterns. Bug-type cards and other RNG-heavy bits are a challenge no matter what. Even some fixed patterns can be so dense and require such precision that navigating through them is difficult even if you know the path. (Looking at you, Sanae.)

The 'strange' spell cards are usually the least worrisome, because relying on a gimmick means that there's a clear strategy or some trick to learn that makes them easier. A card that just shits bullets on you can't be misdirected. Which is harder, 'Mountain of Faith', or 'Falling Stars on Shinreibyou'?

[Anonymous No.]

Does jaypee have a download for every 2hu game out so far translated in one collection?

Bought a new cpu but forget to bring over all my touhou games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15440182
nyaa
moriya shrine

[Anonymous No.]

>>15440182
Seriously, how many times can this be asked? Go to Nyaa, search the software category for "Touhou", the first result is literally exactly what you described. How hard is that?

[Anonymous No.]

Man, I was real close to 1ccing PCB, got to Yuyuko's last spell with no lives, no bombs.
Choked real hard and died on the first bullet.
Maybe next time.

[Anonymous No.]

where can i download mystical power plant as a standalone script? i'm tired of redownloading danmakufu for every one of their games

[Anonymous No.]

Do you guys know if LoLK runs too fast if you have a monitor that's over 60hrz?
game feels really quick

[Anonymous No.]

>>15440414
what does the FPS counter say? I don't think it lies even if you go above 60.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437599
tfw you still can't 1cc UFO because of Murasa

[Anonymous No.]

>>15440211
>>15440277
I wonder what I was going through my head when I checked kat and PB but not fucking nyaa

[Anonymous No.]

>>15440391
This question doesn't make much sense. When you download the game you're given a copy of danmakufu, but it loads the .def file on launch and starts the game immediately. It already is a standalone; that's the point. Danmakufu itself is barely anything in comparison to the game's resources. I'm not sure what the problem here is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15441282
Yeah I realized I worded that wrong. I was tired.
I meant I want it as a normal script to put with my other scripts. I got the game to boot up when I put it with the others but it crashes after I select the difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

>me trying to unlock Last Words with my shit level
I have 5 so far. Guess I should be happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15440389
>Choked real hard and died on the first bullet.

For me it was like...
>Beat her penultimate spellcard
>2 bombs,no lives
>Start celebrating my "second" 1cc
>Think to myself "Wow,this did not take as long to 1cc as EoSD,I guess I'm getting bett..."
>"Resurrection Butterfly -30% Reflowering-"
>"Wait what?"
>Dodge for a few seconds,but not totally serious because I thought this was a "Last Word" type spellcard,meaning I can die without consenquences.
>Die without bombing
>Continue Yes/No
>Mfw

After that,I suddenly couldn't play as well for a while.It took all I had to reach her again at that state and finally 1cc the goddamn game.

In conclusion two things:
>Don't let it get to you and try again
>It's not over until you see the result screen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15447903
Had you not beat Yuyu before trying a 1cc?
How did that get you off guard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449242
If he had beaten her before, then he would have had a 1cc.

That shit almost got me the first time, too, but somehow I rode the wave and managed to get through it. As gimmicks go, it's a bit unfair, but pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck. 4secs away from capturing Eirin's last spell. I would have gotten them all that run. I would have been so happy if I had gotten it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449653
>If he had beaten her before, then he would have had a 1cc.
No, you can see that spell after continuing

[Anonymous No.]

>>15441079
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEb9PO7dYOE

[Anonymous No.]

>>15449242
>Had you not beat Yuyu before trying a 1cc?

I didn't have actually,that's why I was so surprised that I managed to "1cc" PCB without playing stage 6 very much.

The reason why this caught me off guard is because I haven't reached that point prior.When I got close to the final Spellcard I was usually out of continues by that time and never saw it.Prismrivers and Youmu always destroyed me.

It's not like I haven't played her stage at all,it just so happened that I was in the zone at that time and I had a great run by accident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437599
you can bind joystick buttons to keys with xpadder

[Anonymous No.]

I finally made my first 1cc. Should I try hard or move on to PCB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450087
Congrats. Both maybe. I enjoyed 1ccing all of them in order on normal but maybe I would have improved faster if I had tried hard sooner.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe this isn't the right thread but can someone tell what's going on here? This appeared on the icon of the game (only the patched one tho) and when I play it, it doesn't take inputs from my controllers
For some reason, this only affects 15 and 14, other games work fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450087
if you clear that on hard then you'll have less trouble with the rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450790
This is true. It'll make normal feel pretty easy.

The way I did it was I 1cc'd my first 3 2hu games before 1ccing my first one on hard, then moved onto extra. This is a less frustrating way to do it because it allows you to build up your skill by playing other games on normal. It's also slightly less efficient, though, as hard mode will really beat you into shape.

In the end there's not really any compelling reasons to do it one way or the other. It's important to play touhou to have fun. If you don't feel like playing hard mode yet, then don't. But if you do, go for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450701
Disregard this, it solved itself, even tho the ico is still there

[Anonymous No.]

I wrote an explanation of how the youkai gauge worked in IN for some anon in the last thread and I want to correct something I didn't have a full understanding of.

In order to swap between human and youkai on a boss fight instantly after transitions you need to wait until familiars are spawned then finish the boss before they go off screen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15456385
I'm that anon
I guess that explains why my gauge was suddenly on the other side without me bombing
Anyways, I was able to finish IN with 2 teams and today I might go for the actual end, so thank you, it really helped me, the wiki didn't make it clear enough for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>15458379
Cool. You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody got a 1cc normal replay for IN using the ghosts?
YT isn't cutting it and I need inspiration

[Anonymous No.]

>>15460272
http://score.royalflare.net/th08/score.cgi?type=score_nf&level=3&chara=4&route=0
or
http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php?u=&g=8&p=Yuyuko+%26+Youmu&t=0&d=2&c=1&ch=0

[Anonymous No.]

>>15460510
Thank you kind anon

[Anonymous No.]

Whose idea was it to make grazed bullets in LoLK turn dim red and quiver? Thanks asshole, not like I wanted to see those or anything.

[ANON X No.]

>>15463631
that threw me a curveball right from the start, not that I am thinking of getting a clearance of the game anytime soon, thanks Doremy and Ringo!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15463631
pretty sure that was ZUN

[Anonymous No.]

>>15464728
I love Doremy's fight, stage and music

[Anonymous No.]

>played eosd for over 4 months, still have never beat it without using continue.

I suck at this game, i dont know if I should play easy just for the ending. People tell me if i play easy I'll never get better though.

[Anonymous No.]

These games are too hard do I start on normal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15466600
I don't think you can beat it on easy. It ends at stage 5 or something. How regularly did you play during those 4 months?

>>15466602
>do I start on normal
Pretty much. You're going to die really quickly at first. You'll make small improvements that build on each other and get farther and farther until one day you beat it. Of course there will be times when you don't feel like you're improving but you probably are. Remember luck goes both ways.

[Anonymous No.]

That feel when make it to the end boss with 5 lives instead of the usual 2 that you've gotten to the last phase with and you still don't win. Clip death me more please.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god what a fucking ride
>beat most of IN with the ghosts and make it to Stage6, I already have open Final B
>I have no extra lives or bombs
>grab one extra life before the mid boss, loss it immediately too
>Eirin comes as mid boss and start to bother me
>Using the 2 of the 3 bombs I can beat her, getting 2 more bombs because of bonus
>Finally meet the actual final boss
>is just a cute loli
>first attack traps me like the retard i am and have to bomb
>one of the coloured spears gets me, making me use my stronger bomb
>die later
>see F items get out but get immediately sent to main menu
pic related

[Anonymous No.]

>>15467166
You can't continue on that boss for some reason. You'll want to practice her spell cards in spell practice as you unlock them. I think you just need to get to them to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15467166

>>15466600
Does that mean you've cleared it with a continue? If so, you should be able to practice all the stages, so make use of that. Isolate your problem spots, work on improving some of them, then budget out your bombs/lives across what's left. Once you've managed one 1cc, you should find that the others come much more quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

What's up with PoFV?
Does it at least have new girls? If not I might just skip it

>>15467264
You can't practice stages that you haven't cleared anon. (Final B)

[Anonymous No.]

>>15467290
>Does it at least have new girls?
Four* of them, and they're among the best new girls.

*One is actually from PC98, and the second originally from printworks beforehand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15467166
Yeah, you're not allowed to continue on Kaguya. To beat her it must be a true 1CC,

[Anonymous No.]

>>15467290
Play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15468615
I did, meh.
I'll try MoF now

[Anonymous No.]

>>15468625
It's a bit different, but you're missing out if you don't give it an honest effort.

Since it's so different from the others, you need to develop different strategies, and you can't just rely on practicing the same stage a thousand times and memorizing everything. It will teach you to get good in other ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15468679
Maybe it's because I got a bad game? None of the music can be heard and that's a huge turn off, also i made it to some captain green hair girl and called it a day

[Anonymous No.]

>>15467264
Ya I beat the game with continues on normal, tried to play hard eosd as well, always lose to patchy.

I play like 1 round until i die every day. Took me 2 months to even beat the game with continues.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one that feels that death-bombing is way harder in EoSD?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15471949
Yes, specially if you are not using the vnsync patch. But once you master the art of deathbombing in EoSD you mastered the art of deathbombing in all games.

[Anonymous No.]

満身創痍

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking finally beat my first Touhou game.

LoLK on Normal Legacy Mode. What a bitch, but I did it.

[ANON X No.]

>>15474168
well done! I am close to beating TD without using a contunue too, it is the only game that I am a constant level 5 on though.

Sadly I haven't got the reflexes or reaction time to go any further than level 2 on lunatic or level 3 on hard though curse being over 40 something sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15474168
You decided to beat the hardest of them all first? Nicely done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15474168
Unfortunately I also started with LoLK, and man am I gonna be stuck with it for a long time

[Anonymous No.]

>>15475388
nothing wrong with switching between games before getting the 1cc's, not like you start forgetting everything you learned in one game after playing another one

[Anonymous No.]

>>15474168
>Normal Legacy mode
Impressive. Congrats, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15474168
By beating you mean a 1cc right?

[Anonymous No.]

>Atonement "Needle Mountain of a Former Hell"
I can't even see the swirling things well fuck

[Anonymous No.]

I guess I need a break. I've been trying to 1cc PCB on hard. I've made it to resurrection butterfly three times already. The last few days I've been mostly playing poorly though. I tried pushing through it thinking it would pass but it hasn't. I just finished my first run of the day and now I'm feeling pressure. I choked in multiple spots.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know if I like EoSD difficulty spike.
I can go upto stage 5 without losing lives or using bombs but after that it is a disaster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15476289
Sounds like you need to use practice mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15476289
I'm with ya there. I could probably get better with some practice but Sakuya is pretty tough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15476337
Nop, I go to stage 5 in practice mode and get m ass handed to me still
What makes me madder is the real short window to death bomb

[Anonymous No.]

>>15476289
>>15476357
On Normal, stage 5 and Sakuya are easier than stage 4 and Patche. Even on Hard, the bosses are about tied. Watch a replay if you can't figure it out, but Sakuya's fight can actually be learned and the stage is mostly streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15476391
Then you need more practice for deathbombing lol.
Also remeber that one of the gimmicks on Sakuya's level is staying still and waiting for the waves of bullets of the familiars to appear, then very slightly move to one side. The whole stage is based arround soft streaming. Sakuya is based arround reading.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15440389
>>15447903
>beat her second to last spell with no lives no bullets
>channel maximum autism and dodge everything in her last spell
>get 1cc

I was pretty proud of myself

[Anonymous No.]

>continues leave you on the start of the stage on MoF
Worst decision. That and making the bombs power dependant. And make them all the same. And make the backgrounds as epileptic as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15475654
Yeah. I used Reisen, too.

I really like her bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15476029
Just died to resurrection butterfly with 2 lives. I wasn't expecting to make it there today especially with how I felt earlier or I'd of practiced it today. I really suck at that spell card. I was making it through spell practice only getting hit once after I put a ton of work into it. Initially I was going through all my lives in spell practice on it. It was quite hilarious.

I'm not even mad. I just had my best run yet. I kind of want to blame my sweaty fingers but I just need to practice that spell card more apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15477021
And I got it. Not the most graceful resurrection butterfly but I really do suck at that card. I don't know what changed from this morning. I really am addicted to this game though. I couldn't even not play it for a day. Time to work on defeating Yukari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15477935
Ganbatte with that! Just beat her for the first time today myself.

I think I am addicted to this game as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15478200
>tfw can't even reach Ran
I'm just too lazy to memorize the shitty stage

[Anonymous No.]

>>15478200
Nice job. Looks like I gotta beat ran again before I can try Yukari. I want to do with Reimu B and I haven't unlocked phantasm with that shot yet.

>>15478238
I gotta relearn that stage again too. I just got destroyed only having done it with homing shot before. If you really don't like it I think it's worth doing. One of my favorite moments was beating ran. Great fight.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best character/character combo to gain as much time during stage 4 of IN? What should I do regarding the character switch? I'd like to unlock Reimu and Marisa's Last Spells at least for Normal mode but I always end up not having the Time required to have it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15479341
just don't die and don't break the familiars of fairies on the stage, for unlocking the last spell you don't need a team that's particularily good at gaining time

[Anonymous No.]

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=40765

Took me quite a bit of tries but it was fun.

[Anonymous No.]

What triggers an automatic item collection at the end of spell cards in SA, other than moving to the PoC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15480015
If your communications gauge (graze meter) fills up, it will autocollect at poc value.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Subterranean_Animism/Gameplay#Point_Items

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone here played Mystical Power Plant? I beat the final boss (the part before the last word) but the game dropped to 40fps and the explosion sound is repeating endlessly and nothing is happening.
What do? I don't want to restart my game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15481177
No I haven't. That doesn't sound good. Sorry anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15481189
Shit, that's disappointing.

[Anonymous No.]

Wud you recommend playing on a shitty 1600x900 laptop?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484537
Is that your only option? As long as you can play at 60fps with no slowdown sure. Also I've heard that laptop keyboards suck but I've never used one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484537
If you have another keyboard (even $10-15 one) or a controller you can plug in and use, sure.

In my experience, laptop keyboards are bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484573
>>15484574
I had no problem with using the keyboard before, the laptop is also quite fast, I want to buy an actual PC at some point in the future but I don't know when; I just stopped playing (video) games for over two years now. I even stopped watching shows because I don't own a praised 1080p res monitor.
Right now I don't even have enough money to buy a new PC with all the equipments I'd need.

It feels like I am just delaying things for whatever reason by limiting myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484609
>It feels like I am just delaying things for whatever reason by limiting myself.
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484642
I basically have a vision for my room that's still not fulfilled to this day.

It started two or three years ago when I decided to re-arrange and clean up my room. I bought new storage cabinets and two couches, of which I only use one (my parents use the other one now because it was too large for my room). That's when I stopped playing video games-- because my room isn't finished.

What's still missing in my room are more cabinets for my upcoming huge game and film backlog collection and a CRT for my retro games.
I am now checking flea markets/eBay for a CRT that will be put next to my HDTV but it's very hard to find working ones where I live. I also don't know which cabinets I should buy because my available space is slowly running out. I'm not sure if all games/films would fit in my room.

Technically, I could play games right now but it's like something is preventing me from doing it. I want my room to be finished first. It feels bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484713
Nice blog
If you want your ideal room to become real then stop depending of it and play some fucking games.
If you don't resume your life after you idealised your wish, it will not happen anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484713
I think it will be fine playing touhou on your laptop anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484713
autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484537
You don't need resolution to play 2hu, most of the games run at 640x480 upscaled in full screen anyway, I don't notice myself playing much worse on my 1280x800 thinkpad vs on desktop with a proper display.

[Anonymous No.]

SA Extra NMNB. eat it koiiishiii

[Anonymous No.]

>playing EoSD after a year of not playing any schmups
>alt+f4 everytime I loose a life

[Anonymous No.]

>>15488698
Nice job.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you have this problem when after practicing enough, you go for the 1cc and one tiny mistake snowballs so hard that you make it to stage 6 with one life left?
On one of Youmu's spells, she goes below and then rises back, she hit me with her sprite while going back and then I started losing all my resources
Fucking hate that

[Anonymous No.]

>>15489879
That is every single time I play any of the games

[Anonymous No.]

>>15489879
There is more
>play against pic related on practice
>do an excellent job, I'm focused and know what I have to do
>actual run
>make it to stage 5 with barely any bombs and only 2 lives left
>beat Reisen with barely anything left

[Anonymous No.]

>>15489879
You'll learn to keep your composure better after some time, atleast that's how it is for me, although if I've played for too long in one sitting the snowballing can happen easier since I'm more exhausted and losing focus becomes more likely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15489879
That's called flow. Losing your flow is a common problem in many situations, not only when playing video games but also on sports, studies, etc. The flow break can manifest in many ways like getting nervous, losing coordination or simply not caring anymore. The only way to overcome a flow break is by training your mind to concentrate by not letting that little mistake ruin your whole run. You need to practice more and learn to cope with your mistakes, don't get nervous because you died in some stupid way, most people do those stupid mistakes anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

This must be some kind of insanity test
How the fuck am I supposed to dodge the lasers while the fairy throws stars at me while the other one uses more lasers and throw stars while the previous one continues to do so because they must have a bajillion of HP while a 3rd one comes and spits in your fucking face??
holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490290
That's one of the easiest parts m8. You just need to destroy the familiars before they spawn. You need to memorize the places in where each one shows up so you can move inmediatelly after you destory one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490318
I haven't noticed no familiars

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490321
Sorry, i meant the single enemies that make the whole pattern. Each one spawns one at a time. Remember to get close for maximum damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490328
Yeah but that doesn't destroy them in time

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490334
Yes it does. You have to survive the wave of each one for a while thought. The hardest part is switching side to side dodging the small stars after every wave to get in position for the next one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490318
>that's one of the easiest parts
that's the single hardest part in stage 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490345
I just tested again, it doesn't.
No matter what, I can't kill the first one before the second one appears, and if I don't do that I'm fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490374
Not him and I haven't played that one much but maybe you need 4.0 power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490362
lolno
The hardest part is the second wave of yellow/green lasers that are Hugely RNG dependant

>>15490374
I Just tested it with Marisa at 3.05 power, you can do it. Just remember:
- Shotgun the enemies as much as possible
You can get a few seconds before the lasers come out of the orbs
- There is a small gap between the orbs
You can get past the lasers going through this gap to get much closer to the enemie
- The lasers only spawn once
Even if you got your timing wrong remember to focus on the same enemie until you destroy it. The enemies only do one wave of lasers and after that they only spawn stars. Your priority is to destroy the second enemy that spawns. After that you can easily dodge the third (and last) enemy without much trouble even if you don't destroy it.

[Anonymous No.]

>Close to beat EoSD on normal
>Try LoLK because i want to see the "american" girl
>die hard even in non-legacy, i can't reach stage 5

I feel useless.

[Anonymous No.]

What was the reception for Phantasmagoria of Flower Viewing when it came out? I only played it on easy since I'm new, but I beat it without any continues, so I guess it's not that difficult. Did any of you have fun with vs. modes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490693
PoFV came out in 2005. There won't be many people still around to answer your first question.

Easy is not a very good difficulty to gauge a game's difficulty, but it is probably one of the easier games to 1cc. Lots of people seem to have fun with netplay, including me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15490645
I'm the same as you but I can reach the 5th stage. Just forget about the shitty Pointdevice mode, it's nothing but gratuitous mental stress and suffering. Just like that moment it took me over a hundred tries in a row to get past a certain Doremi spellcard.

That said, I need all continues to get to Junko and then I lose. LoLK is just damn hardcore.

[Anonymous No.]

I DID IT BOYS!!!
I won't beat her tho, but I stood by my word.

[Anonymous No.]

so what's harder, 2hu or CAVE games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15493876
I don't think anybody is going to argue that CAVE games are less forgiving in difficulty, just play what you enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15493876
Dumb question. There are a lot of CAVE games and there are a lot of Touhou games. It also depends on what you are going for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15493876
Harder for what. Touhou tends to give you more resources if you just want a bare bones 1cc. But higher tier survival goals along with scoring are the real endgame for difficulty. Trying to compare WR-tier scoring in either would be completely ridiculous. This is why I always dislike this question. Any good shmup will allow for a virtually endless skill ceiling anyway, so worrying about difficulty is silly.

[Anonymous No.]

I just watched some guy streaming SA and he crossed over from the left side of the screen to the right side. I didn't know you could do that. I thought it was another case of not reading the wiki but I don't see it mentioned in there either. I figured it out in game. You have to be unfocused and not attacking and then you double tap to cross the screen.

I've been replaying the games on hard and have been finding out a few new things like auto collecting above poc line in IN while being focused and manually breaking your cherry border in PCB by using the bomb button. Also other things that I didn't have a solid understanding of the first time around until I actually read the wiki like how building cherry points unfocused is faster than focused and how grazing unfocused vs focused with cherry border effects your cherry max.

Anyway don't be like me. Actually read the wiki before playing each game. Otherwise you might miss things like I have.

Oh and if you are here grats on your SA lunatic 1cc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15494318
Or.. pay more attention while playing

[Anonymous No.]

>>15494318
Nigga i never in my life consulted the wiki other than for lore porpuses and i figured all that stuff in my own.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it impossible to death bomb on reaction in EoSD or what?
Any way to train your death-bomb capabilities?

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>>15494763
>Is it impossible to death bomb on reaction in EoSD or what?
lolno
>Any way to train your death-bomb capabilities?
Get better eye hand coordination. Practice.

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>>15494773
>eye hand coordination
What if you are not looking at your character when you get hit?
Does the sound come out quick enough?

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>>15494763
Just play more and you'll get better at gauging where hitboxes are and when you are about to hit them. Nobody gets hit and then is fast enough to react with a bomb (unless it's IN). But you can see a scary bullet heading towards you, start telling yourself to bomb, and then you'll have bombed just about when it hits you.

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>>15494580
>>15494504
Some things, like Yukari's support ability, are mentioned in the game menus, but other things you would never figure out without reading the manual. The cherry system in 7, or most of the gameplay in 9, or how to properly use trance in 13 are all good examples.

If you genuinely think you've figured out every mechanic without reading any manuals, then I guarantee there's stuff you're missing. I've lost count of how many times I've heard people say things like "wait, trancing gets you double items?!" or "what do you mean getting closer to Lily kills her faster?!" or whatever other technique they were completely clueless about because they thought they were too cool to read the manual. What's worse is that these same people will sometimes complain about the game's mechanics — criticizing something they don't even fully understand simply because of their own laziness.

Not only for playing Touhou, but for all things in life, it's good advice. Just RTFM.

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>>15494809
Some stuff you need the manual/wiki of course, but some of the stuff you mentioned earlier is just plain obvious like auto collecting in IN or the using the bomb while having a border and grazing

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>>15494819
>you mentioned
That wasn't me, actually, I just got fired up because I hate it when people try to act like reading the manual is a bad thing.

It's true that those particular things are easy to figure out, and the original anon is a bit dense. And sure, all you really need is to be good enough at dodging, and you can clear any game without knowing about any of the unique mechanics. But that takes a lot of the fun out, and also makes them much more challenging for no reason if you're going for a 1cc. It's better to play them the way they're meant to be played.

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>>15494819
That wasn't me and I meant auto collecting above poc line without being at max power by focusing. While you can figure these out on your own I think it is also easy to miss something.

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>>15494847
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>>15494791
Prediction is also a factor about it. When you get surrounded by bullets you need to read the pattern quickly and preddict in your head where the bullets are going to fall even if you are not looking at your character.
Now this mental image keeps constantly changing because not only the pattern changes but you are also moving while you do so. In my case when i feel this mental image breaks i need to look back to my hitbox surroundings because it is more likely for me to die and thus more likely for me to deathbomb.

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>>15494809
No. It's more like the other guy said. You need to put more attention and concentrate in the little details. Also to experiment with your posibilities. While there are some really cryptic things like IN score system most of them can be figured out if you think a little bit. It's not rocket science.

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>>15494860
But if you do that then you just dodge the bullets or bomb before getting hit. Doesn't really help the case

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>>15494850
Also I didn't figure out manual cherry breaks for so long because I never had to bomb with them because cherry borders make you invincible.

>>15494866
Well I didn't figure everything out. You're right that I hould pay more attention to the details and experiment. It's one of my weak points that effects other areas of my life. In any case I think it's good advice to read the manual.

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>>15494866
You think ZUN writes the manuals just for fun? You think he just really enjoys making stuff that he doesn't want anyone to read? You think it should be considered a cheat if someone reads the material that was included with the game?

Manuals exist to be read. You are expected to know what you're doing before playing the game. If you personally want to challenge yourself to be oh-so-cool and figure out absolutely everything on your own, that's your business, but don't try to force that ridiculous approach on anyone else. There's still plenty to learn about stages and patterns and strategy, without having to figure out shit that the game expects you to know from the start.

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>>15494869
I don't think you understand. Everything i explained to you and all those desicions happen in less than two seconds, is not about going like "welp better bomb here because i think i'm gonna die" it's about predicting with your mental image if that wandering bullet is going to hit you, and you have to do that rediction in less that a split second.

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>>15494892
Sure, it's nice to read manuals if you can't figure something out and if you want to know how the true mechanics of the game work but what i'm trying to say is that you can discover most of it for yourself if you just play the game.

>>15494895
Whoa, chill out you nerd. Most people like to dive into the games and discover for themselves how the games work.
Also, keep in mind that the start of this coversation was about really simple things like IN auto collection or Yuka/Remi ability, you know, things that you literally can figure yourself in the first stage by just paying attention. As i already said, nothing cryptic at all.

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>>15494899
In other words, you can't do it on reaction and that sucks

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>>15494921
>Most people
Even if that's true and not hyperbole, it's still a decision everyone should make on their own. The games come with a manual and are designed with the expectation that you have read it before playing. You shouldn't encourage everyone to do the opposite as a default. If they're the kind to like that sort of thing, they'll make that choice for themselves; otherwise, they should do things in the intended manner.

Whether or not the mechanics are easy to figure out or not is irrelevant. Even if 95% of them are obvious from stage 1, you're still missing out by purposely keeping information from yourself.

>Yuka/Remi
You mean Yukari's support ability in 11? That's listed on the character select screen, so I agree that it's obvious, but certainly not through gameplay. If you'd never seen someone play the game and hadn't read the menu for whatever reason, how would you possibly guess that you could could do such a thing, let alone how it was done? The other support abilities are obvious, even Patche's since it's easy enough to stumble upon hitting Shift+Z during normal play, but in what situation would you be pressing against the edge of the screen, not shooting, double-tapping to the side?

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>>15494946
The older games let you do it on reaction, as there was that really obvious sound, and the screen stops for the fraction of a second.

I think PCB's deathbomb window is the longest. Newer games though don't even have the screen freeze so sometimes I miss the opportunity.

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>>15494946
Are you retarded? Everything i said is about reaction. You react at your prediction of your mental image on a split second and between that split section you decide if you CAN dodge that one bullet or if is going to touch you in the next quarter of second in wich case the death sound effect plays at the same time you activate your bomb. This later becomes a reflex and you don't need to think about it.

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>>15494996
Are you?
You are not reacting to prediction isn't the same because it changes how you are playing.
In other words you are prediction more than reacting. What I mean is when a bullets comes OUT OF NOWHERE and hits you, react instantly by bombing. Everything that isn't that is rendered useless because like I said, if you know that you are gonna end up bombing or even suspect it, it's not as useful.

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>>15494977

>and hadn't read the menu for whatever reason
Dude, this is exactly what i'm talking about. If you can't be bothered to put attention to even the menus in the game, let alone the game itself then you shouldn't complaint about not discovering those simple mechanics.

>but in what situation would you be pressing against the edge of the screen, not shooting, double-tapping to the side?

By experimenting? As you said, that ability is listed on the title screen, so at that point you are wondering how does that ability works and yoou try to trigger it.

I'm not saying that reading manuals is bad, i'm saying that if you can't figure out really simple mechanics you probably need to put more attention to the details.

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>>15494977
>You mean Yukari's support ability in 11? That's listed on the character select screen, so I agree that it's obvious
Oh. Well that explains why I missed that one. I'm learning Japanese so am not using translation patches. I only took the time to read the game dialogue and endings.

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>>15490318
>That's one of the easiest parts
It really isn't, don't be a fucking liar.

>>15490290
Right is safer than left.

You don't have to kill anyone but of course it helps.

This part fucking sucks. The lasers aren't the real problem, the tiny stars are.

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>>15495016
See? you clearly don't understand or are mentally challenged (or both).
The whole prediction thing is about reading. Read my first post how i said that first you need to read the pattern and how the prediction keeps changing constantly. There is a split second when that bullet that came out of nowhere gets in your range,and as a reflex you press the X button as the bullet hits you. However between that split second you can also react, read the pattern again, check if there are any openings and dodge instead of bombing.

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>>15495091
>>15491445

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>>15495101
I'm aware, though you'll probably have to do that part again in the future, you know.

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>>15495094
I think you are not the one understanding here anon

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>>15495104
I know, I had to dodge like mad since I couldn't kill those bastards

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>>15495108
I do, You (he?) is talking about those situations where you don't expected a bullet or when you are out of focus of your character and a bullet hits you. Those are the kind of situation where the reflex comes out off just hearing the death sound effect. Why? because you predicted your death so many times that in the instant you hear that note and see your character in that split second you already hit the X button.
Is all about training that reflex with prediction.

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>>15495032
No, like I said, it's obvious. The menu tells you how to do it, so if you can read, it's not a problem. That's not what I was asking. You said that mechanic was one that ''you literally can figure yourself in the first stage by just paying attention", and I don't think that's true at all. You would have to know about it beforehand; the chances of stumbling upon it purely from playing the game are miniscule.

The IN autocollect mechanic is a much better example of something that even an illiterate could figure out pretty quickly.

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>>15495258

>You said that mechanic was one that ''you literally can figure yourself in the first stage by just paying attention"
Sure, i was exaggerating when i said that but i stand by my word that everything can be identified if you put a little attention

> I don't think that's true at all. You would have to know about it beforehand; the chances of stumbling upon it purely from playing the game are miniscule.

It is very possible, granted, it's something you'll learn after having a grasp at the game but it is very possible. As you play the game more you realize that every single shot type has a gimmick, however you'll also notice that Reimu A doesn't really have an obvious gimmick and you start to wonder which is her's which leads to experimenting (or googling it lol). That's not even mentioning that there are many points where it can be sicovered by accident like the spirit section on stage or Yuugi's last nonspell.
It's all about perceiving and filling the gaps by yourself, however this especificexample is not relevant at all because the game literally tells you what the ability is in the menus.

[Anonymous No.]

Am I the only one that feels the difficulty in EoSD cheap compared to the other games?

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>>15495290
How is the difficulty on EoSD "cheap"? I can't think of a single trial and error moment other than Scarlet Meister and Maze of love on the extra stage.

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>>15495308
Most of the stage 5 is.
>stand here, next here and then here or else it become nearly undodgeable

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>>15495317
You mean the aimed sections? Those are basic streaming. Even if you don't figure out that you can stand for a while to mke the whole pattern irrelevant you can still dodge the balls while moving normally. The only "cheap difficulty" game in my opinion is LoLK.

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I reached Remilia without using continues just now and lost, but damn I'm getting closer.
It's a shame when you fuck up early in the run on something some stupid though.

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>>15495317
By that logic every other game is even cheaper. The only true cheap shot in that game is the non spell after remilia's second spellcard, because it will kill you if you haven't seen it before, but it's extremely easy otherwise.

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>>15495471
What non spell was that anon?
I remember there being a really nasty one, even knowing it comes I can't into it

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>>15495501
I'm talking about the one that has really fast knives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15495501
He's talking about the knifes that spawn really fast mid screen in a circular pattern.

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>>15495584
>>15495572
But those are the easiest shit even the first time

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>>15495648
That's not the point, the knifes that spawn don't give you enough time to auto collect the points after the spellcard so if you don't know it's coming and you are mid-screen or if you try to get to the PoC you don't get enough time to react and dodge the thing.
Of course the pattern itself is easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15495803
Why complain about that attack in particular when half the moves in the game dont let you?

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>>15495290
>>15495317
I thought you were about to complain about the RNG heavy nature of many EoSD patterns, but it sounds like you just have a problem with routing. Virtually all bullet hells will require you to route the stages on higher difficulties though, so I don't think you can consider that cheap.

[Anonymous No.]

cave owns bitch

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>>15497290
>cave
If you are going to shitpost at least do it with something good like gradius 3. Not this caveshit.

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Are all final bosses immune to bombs during their final spell card?
Remilia turns into a bat and Eirin does fuck all.
About remilia, since Reimu A bomb is shit for clearing bullets, should I just stand in the middle while bombing Red Magic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15499199
I have a better idea:
Capture it

[Anonymous No.]

>>15499274
>Dying repetedly just to capture it
I prefer to farm bombs and grab that 1cc quickly

[Anonymous No.]

>>15499199
Just bomb when you're about to die. Think of clearing the bullets as a bonus.

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I'm never going to finish a single fucking mainline touhou game as it looks like, I'm a fucking failure. How long did it take you guys to finish the games? I'm playing EoSD on hard and I'm unwilling to change the difficulty, I always loose a life somewhere in S3 and then as many as 2 right after I get tilted and the run is pretty much over.

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>>15499396
It takes a while depending on your talent for shmups and what game it is.

It's much easier if you start on Normal and work your way up.

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>>15499454
>It's much easier if you start on Normal and work your way up.

Well, I guess I may try that, but I just fell as if that's inadequte as I've not had such problems with games like Crimzon Clover, Dodonpachi, Mushihimesama etc, on equivalent difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15499199
In TD, DDC, and LoLK, the final bosses aren't bomb immune in their final spells. In the games before them, yeah, final spells are bomb immune.

[Anonymous No.]

I sometimes forget touhou is a series of games after all the lewd /jp/ threads.

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>>15499602
We need to have a lewd gameplay thread some day. Maybe talk about the few very rare Touhou H-games.

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>>15499469
That's because you fell for the "2hu is ez" meme. Specially if you played those games on the standart difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

I PBed!

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>>15499396
>How long did it take you guys to finish the games

For EoSD a good couple of weeks. At first (since I started with EoSD), I was absolutely terrible (if you saw a replay you'd swear I was trying to play the game with my elbows).

After getting the hang of it, I made it further using continues and started to save my incomplete replays and studying it for where I went wrong. I was able to then set small goals for myself, like 'no death in the first 3 stages, and no bombing on the first two', and after getting a hang of proper resource management I was able to 1cc.

After that I was able to clear the other games with total play times times ranging from about 2 to 20 hours.

-

I finally managed to clear my first extra, IN. I didn't know about the clear requirement for getting to the Imperishable Shooting spell card my first time around.

On my second try I managed to get to it but I couldn't capture it. It's not as though I don't 'get' how it's supposed to be captured, it's just that I keep making silly mistakes ( I can manage to survive till the clock gets between 50 and 40seconds).

Maybe I'll try PCB next, and get back to SA lunatic.

Vid: Until I saw how to properly navigate Hourai Doll (mid-screen rectangular circulation), I could never capture it.

with sound: https://a.pomf.cat/zvpfiq.webm

[Anonymous No.]

>>15499396
How long have you been playing? I started about 2 months ago with that same attitude, but now I've finished EoSD, PCB, IN, and TD on normal.

[Anonymous No.]

What do you think of Fairy Wars? The chain-freezing mechanic is interesting, but it's pretty tricky and needs a lot of timing practice.

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>>15500705
>it's pretty tricky
It's a decimal, so it's meant to be harder than the mainline games.

Even so, I found frustratingly difficult, because there's so much going on. Timing the ice and your dodging simultaneously, while trying to figure out what's even happening in the visual clusterfuck of bullets, fireballs, lasers, and exploding ice, is such an overload by the third stage that I was never able to beat it. It also has that stupid shit from StB where charging slows you down, and the counterintuitive relationship between cancelling bullets and gaining resources leads to unusual gameplay, which is one more thing that has to be constantly focused on.

It's probably most fun if you're at the level of working on Lunatic clears in the other games.

[Anonymous No.]

I just found out that you can add lives in the options menu for Perfect Cherry Blossom
I had it on zero and couldnt 1cc for the life of me
Now that I enabled it i finally beat it without continues
Feels like cheating though

[Anonymous No.]

>>15501284
You're supposed to start with three by default, so it's only 'cheating' if you go higher than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15501284
Just so you know, the default is 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15500705
Super fun game. But it becomes kind of easy after you get your timing right.

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>>15500705
I played it on Normal and I liked it. So far the only shmup in existence that made me feel motivated to milk patterns for score. Only three stages, but staying around to make more freezes extends the session to the proper length of 25 minutes. You actually get to play as Cirno... in an official Touhou game... it's fantastic.

I didn't get a good grasp on it though, the freezes in my 1cc's were done to various degrees improperly, and I didn't even begin to make actual routes that would take all the counters into account. It didn't really matter for clearing, though.

Unfortunately, several 1cc's in, I got distracted by doing my first Lunatic 1cc in EoSD, so I never came back to Fairy Wars. Compared to Fairy Wars, even though I figured out the scoring in EoSD to a large extent, I never felt motivated to do anything, but it's possible that EoSD scoring tricks are just much harder to pull off "casually".

So yeah, it's a good game, with a fun and addictive scoring system that ties directly into survival. It's a bit overwhelming at first, too, but that soon passes and there's no discomfort with the controls. Maybe I'll play it someday myself. Just got different things on my mind.

[Anonymous No.]

I started playing touhou a year ago, and managed to 1cc eosd lunatic last week.
definitely the hardest part is starting out though.
playing on easy mode is nothing to be ashamed, 2hu is not easy and thinking it's easy is going to make you feel like shit when things start going bad.
Just takes a ton of practice is all. But god, it's rewarding as hell when you can 1cc games on hard mode and lunatic and some of the tougher ex stages.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah yes, now I remember why I gave up on this game.

>>15501531
Nice. Was that a solid year of playing most days, or did you take breaks?

[Anonymous No.]

Come watch me eat shit for maybe an hour or two.
https://piczel.tv/watch/Mikkey

[Anonymous No.]

Finally I defeated that drum lady.
>Those lightning curves are really a pain to avoid.

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>>15503217
>playing against the guitar girl yesterday
>get hit by the curving beams twice as they're crossing the screen
dammit, that's embarrassing, they're supposed to be like area denial, not an actual offensive measure.

[Anonymous No.]

I have practiced so much motherfucking stage 4 in EoSD than now Meiling is harder than Patchouli.
It feels too random at times.

[Anonymous No.]

I was super close to beating Yuyuko on normal mode with no continues, but skype fucking interrupted the last spell.

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>>15501754
I took a break from around october to may after I had a lot of trouble with SA Hard. Then I came back, beat SA hard and then eosd lunatic

But when I was playing, it was pretty much daily.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking into playing with a controller, so far this configuration seems good to me:
A: shoot
B: bomb
Trigger button: focus

but there's something I'm not fully sure about... should I use the right or the left trigger for focusing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15504661
How about you actually test each configuration and go with what you find most comfortable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15504739
I'm okay with either, hence asking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15504661
I use a pro controller
This is my setup, I'm trying to get better at death bombing so I set up bomb to the right trigger as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>15504783
>I'm okay with either
Then what difference does it make?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15504879
Oh, setting bomb to the right trigger seems like a good idea. Cheers.

>>15505061
Well, you never know?

[Anonymous No.]

Some knucklehead playing as Marisa on Twitch is getting clam-slammed by Sakuya in Stage 6 of PoFV.

How should he "git gud"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15450701
>>15450878
The icon just means it's being opened as administrator.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the most difficult spell card?

No ISC allowed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15506592
Pure Sign "A Pristine Danmaku Hell"

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>>15504879
I would suggesting setting focus to ZL as well. I've been playing the games with a pad recently, and I've found that it works best with shoot being one of the face buttons, and having shoulder buttons be the focus and bomb buttons.

Also, if you move using the joystick, use a controller with an octagonal gate--aside from the odd button layout and analog triggers, I've found that the GameCube controller works surprisingly well. The Hori Mini Pad for the N64 has a more practical button layout, but it's not worth the high price unless you play a lot of N64 games.

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>>15507001
I do play a lot of N64, but coming across one of those where I live is near impossible.
The lack of octagonal gate isn't much of a problem. Also, I focus using L which is pretty much the same as you suggested

[Anonymous No.]

Should I skip normal and directly go to hard mode even if I can't clear normal without a continue?

I keep dying shitty deaths instead of using a bomb. Is there a good practice to actually use a bomb instead of dying aside from th8?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15509870
>Should I skip normal and directly go to hard mode even if I can't clear normal without a continue?
Sure, if it doesn't feel too overwhelming.

>I keep dying shitty deaths instead of using a bomb. Is there a good practice to actually use a bomb instead of dying aside from th8?
Nope, better learn how to bomb in time

[Anonymous No.]

>>15509886
Alright, cause I even tried 1ccing in easy mode, and I kept dying because I was too bored.

In normal mode, I usually get past stage 4 without dying, but then stage 5 rapes me for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>15509870
For practice trying to dodge patterns is better than bombing on them, but bombing is motivational for clearing. Just get the clear first, then you can fool around (so bomb as much as you can). I'd only suggest skipping normal for hard for th6-th8, as it is pretty reasonable there. Hard will improve your skills more quickly.

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>>15509895
Stage five of which one? Surely not every game.

Regardless, if you can get through stage 4 without dying, then one or two deaths on stage 5 should still leave you with enough resources for a clear in most cases. Just keep practicing. Bomb-hoarder's deaths are the worst thing you can do.

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>>15509921
Well, I start dying at the end of stage 4 in some games, but the continues happen at the end of stage 5. If I had a lot of fake deaths or non-bomb use deaths, the continue comes earlier.

I've been attempting th6 and 10 recently.

>>15509917
Alright, forgot to mention, should I worry about score? I really don't care about score yet, but it gives me lives, so I try to get them from the top of the screen most of the time. Should I consider doing it more often or nah?

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>>15509936
>Alright, forgot to mention, should I worry about score? I really don't care about score yet, but it gives me lives, so I try to get them from the top of the screen most of the time. Should I consider doing it more often or nah?
That's a good approach to th7 and th8 which give you extends (=lives) based purely on the amount of point items you collect, especially th7 where it's easy to miss an extra life or two by not collecting enough. In games that give the player actual score extends, it's easy to get them all well before the game ends, but collecting point items at the top of the screen is still a good playing ethic...

If you -really- care about scoring, then you need to do research on the known strategies and how it all works in general for a given game. It's a very different mindset from just dodging things, but you get to learn some very cool strats that will change the way you think about bullet patterns.

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>>15510040
Oh nice, you have any strats that you like or have seen? I think I've seen people use safe spots and movement patterns to dodge bullets in Extra stages in th7 and 8. Where can I find them though? If I remember correctly, there was a site for touhou replays right?

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>>15510067
replays.gensokyo.org has various replays, some of them things like no-bombs or no-deaths runs where it's expected that the gameplay will be planned to minimise all risks, especially in no-deaths runs.

score.royalflare.net, a japanese website, has a lot of high and not so high scoring replays; a bunch of them that occupy the first place are also world records, but not necessarily.

touhouwiki will have some info on gameplay mechanics regarding particular games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15510092
Thanks, I'll check these replays out, might be helpful cause I'm too lazy to use the "Practice" option form the menu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15510097
Good luck.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514309
>Using the autopatcher.
Enjoy your botnet.

[Anonymous No.]

I just got my first Normal 1cc
I'm so fucking happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514368
Nice. Which game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514405
Imperishable Night
yeah, I know it's one of the easiest, but I'm still happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514313
This is not /v/, an actual answer please?

[Anonymous No.]

How can I avoid losing one life against Meirin?
It's maddening, her last spell card is too confusing and her other attacks all seem so random. I pretty much can't continue knowing that the 1up I lost there comes in handy later

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514309
An odd error. As far as I can tell, any 'files.js' should just be a dictionary mapping strings to numbers, so I doubt the issue is there. The fact that it says line 1, col 1 seems to indicate that it's actually a problem somewhere else that just isn't being picked up until files.js is loaded.

First, just to be sure, you should double-check that none of your files.js have been modified. If they all look good, then I'm not sure where to point you from there. The patch people might have an IRC channel or help page where you can ask them. In the mean time, you can try changing your patch configuration to isolate if there's one in particular which is causing the problem.

There's also the possibility that running in a different locale/language is messing it up, so that might be worth a look too.

>>15514313
Shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514416
I was just wondering. While it is one of the easiest it's not easy. They're all hard games. Did you notice that there's an alternative stage 6 or have you beaten that already? Also what game do you plan on playing next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514516
That error pops up everytime I change stages or open the game
Nothing seems to be out of place

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514523
you mean 6B?
yeah, it forced me to go there instead of Eirin
Probably PCB or EoSD, since I've already beaten them, but didn't 1cc
I also beat 9 but it feels too random to me, I can get to Shikieiki without losing lives and get destroyed by her, then 5-0 her after continuing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514309
It's saying it can't read the "files.js" file correctly, and that the issue is in the first line of the first column of the file (in the very beginning, in other words). What most likely happened is that the config tool screwed up somewhere so if you want you can do the configuration all over again and the problem should be fixed.

But if you don't mind dirtying your hands, then go to the files.js of the patches you're using, open them up with a good text editor (like WordPad or Notepad++) and check if the very first line is a lone curly bracket like in pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514509
You just need to practice more. As far as the last spell card goes it's going to be beyond your skill level to capture it. Dodge as much as you can but as soon as you're in trouble bomb. You probably have to use a bomb on the spell card before that often times too. Those bullets that come in at different angles are tough. Also the faeries shoot their bullets at you. I don't really have fight specific tips besides that. You just need to do the fight a lot more and you'll naturally get better at it.

Probably not a very helpful post but I've spent too long thinking of how to reply to this to not reply at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514679
Checked all four with notepad++, they all seem alright though
Curly a qt

[Anonymous No.]

>fell for the Persuasion Needle meme
Never again. It's nice that Patchouli has different spells based on what you use though.
>>15514897
kek thank you anon, I was d because I have been real close to 1cc the game and that extra life could have helped
I'll just bomb it when I'm about to get hit since there is no spell practice and im sick of this stage already

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514940
I see. Then I have no idea what the problem is. Guess the only option is to run the configuration tool again and hope it doesn't screw up this time or if you want to talk to the devs you can go here https://gitter.im/thpatch/thcrap but be warned that place is as slow as /jp/.

I agree, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Is touhou 9 viable for tournaments?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15517051
What do you mean viable? Sure it's viable. No characters are overpowered.

I wouldn't want to participate in a tournament with people on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15517061
Hmm, alright, I actually checked some videos on it, people do this sort of thing? I guess locally, there aren't a lot of people or friends that I know play it unfortunately, I was thinking of making a small tournament for it and the prize being a fumo.

But does it necessarily have to be played over adonis on LAN?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15517069
Instead of adonis with LAN, you could either:
Connect over the internet with adonis 1/2 and the host using port forwarding
or
Have both people play on the same computer. They wouldn't both be able to use keyboard (unless there's a patch or workaround for that) so at least one person would have to use a controller.

Good luck on finding enough people to play if you do end up hosting a tournament.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15517112
Yeah I think the LAN IP addresses of like 192.168.X.X won't have that much lag, cause having one person play on a controller is not fair in my opinion. Unless there is a way to change the keys for player 1 and 2 on keyboard since it's obscure as fuck. I guess maybe using cheatengine to change the keys might work fine, but that's kinda hacky. But maybe making a small program to inject the keys into the memory address of the game itself might be more efficient since it won't be too much work if the game restarts.

Also, I'll try and get some friends into it first, if it works fine, I might do a charity for an epilepsy foundation :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>15514509
That one is requires pure skill, there's no trick to it.
That spellcard doesn't feel very different from even lunatic. You have to play it very safe and immediately bomb if you think you aren't going to make it. That is probably the hardest spell until stage 5 if you exclude MarisaB's Patchouli.

[Anonymous No.]

Still havent got gud but 1ccd PCB.

RESURRECTION BUTTERFLY FELT SO SATISFYING WITH NO BOMBS OR LIVES LEFT

[Anonymous No.]

>>15476357
You gotta know when to stand still, most of her attacks are basically a grid, when you move it mushes the grid nd closes the gaps

[Anonymous No.]

This took way to long, but I finally got my first IN Normal 1CC with Marisa/Alice. I really need to learn how to stop acting like a complete retard on the final stretch of otherwise solid runs.

[Anonymous No.]

how do i do pofv/soku/ulil netplay between two computers in the same room?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15484537
i do and i have 1cc th6,7 and 8

[Anonymous No.]

>>15522857
So it's no shame?
Because it really demotivates me sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15522876
i got used to it
also i have to play with keys that are half my index finger's fingerprint tall

[Anonymous No.]

Deflation World is a shitty Last Word. Sure, it looks cool as fuck but it's one of the easiest I have ever done. Why is there such a difficulty gap between those spells? Like, Yuyuko or Wriggle's are absolutely impossible for me yet.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it bad if someone just plays to win with all continues? By doing so, one can later reminisce some of the parts of the game, and go mess arround with it for the "1CC". Maybe it's just me, but I think that 1CCs aren't the finishing line but an arduous, yet rewarding challenge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15524562
I wouldn't say it's bad but once I learned that you need to get a 1cc to get the good ending and get the bonus content, it just felt like it needed to be done. Not that I've gotten even close to a 1cc, but getting that bad end did kinda hurt since I know it'll take a while for me to clear it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15524562
1cc is just the surface of the ocean
if you wanna be good you should have LNNs

[Anonymous No.]

>>15524562
Can you really call it a win if you get the bad ending?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15524562
Yes. There are lots of ways to play, but getting a 1cc on Normal is the lowest bar the game sets for you, so to not even attempt that much means you're not really playing it properly.

[Anonymous No.]

Who else had found 11 to be insane. Graduate school 2hu. Jumped into it from other games on hard. Can barely clear Parsee... It's something about those enemy shot styles, something ZUN never captured or replicated in later games. There's a certain EOSD shot style that persists in some games, as well as the IN era of stream shots, but this is something else. Kinda like UFO shot pattern. fast and quick. You'll get hit real fast...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15525638
It has a slightly steeper learning curve, but once you figure out how to deal with things, most of the actual dodging is easy. I've found it to be the coziest game to replay for fun.

'Graduate school 2hu' would be StB/DS and Fairy Wars, since they were targeted towards veteran players and designed to be a much greater challenge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15525638
11 is noticeably harder than the earlier ones but with a bit of practice I was able to 1cc it on normal pretty soon after getting IN/MoF/PCB 1cc's. If you want insane, LoLK legacy mode is what you're looking for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15525638
wow, you actually do that since birth and got a Fire Dragon I wanted one unpainted and undetailed, just bare resin

[Anonymous No.]

>>15524562
A 1cc is actually needed to get the good ending and unlock the extra stuff.
It's pretty much mandatory if you want to say that you beat the game.
Now, clearing in harder difficulties and 1ccing them is another matter.

[Anonymous No.]

I almost 1cc'd PCB until I realized that there are more stages when you play without continuing????
I completed 100% with 1 continue
My high score before I died

[Anonymous No.]

>>15525476
>if you wanna be good you should have LNNs
No, if you want to be good you should play for score.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15527245
Playing for the story is for real men

[Anonymous No.]

>>15525476
>if you wanna be autistic you should have LNNs

fixed that for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>15525502
>technically yes
>relating to the plot no

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone play on arcade joystick? How is it?

[Anonymous No.]

sacro anno domini 2016 and I still can't beat SoEW at 70% speed

and I've beat all the other 3hus at either normal, hard or lunatic

[Anonymous No.]

>>15527751
I don't play on stick, but from what I've heard it's not bad for macrododging, like in PoFV and PoDD especially. You wouldn't want to try and do grazes with it though.

I'd recommend using keyboard/pad for Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15527780
I see, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to have an exciting and fun battle with the satori but out of 300+ tries. I've only reached her about 5 times!, and I barely survive her first spellcard! goddammit isn't there any way to cheat and skip the stage??

Also, will I be able to beat a EX boss someday?? almost one year has passed since I got into Touhou

[Anonymous No.]

>>15528662
>+300 retries in Satori

Are you playing lunatic with your feet anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15528759

"satori" not "Satori". I meant the satori with the hat

[Anonymous No.]

>>15528662
There's a practice hack for SA
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=19187.0
And a bossrush for various other Touhou games.
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,197.0.html

That's a lot of tries to barely reach Koishi. Good luck anyhow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15528914


Thaaanks! I'm happy, I'm finally having the fun I wanted to. Well, just one try, I lost at her survival spell.

...maybe I was exaggerating.. just about 150-200+ times haha

[Anonymous No.]

>>15468679
PoFV actually helped me to think faster at the time of avoiding. That, Medicine, and last boss theme are the only reasons to play that game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437599
I thought this was a general Gameplay, not a begginer's thread. Most of your comments make me feel so amazingly proud of my actual level. Keep practicing guys, even LoLK gets (considerably) easy after practicing a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15528662
it took me something like a year or so to beat Suwako. Yeah, if you're doing your homework, you should be able to beat one extra at some point. I highly recommend starting with Suwako, I find her to be the easiest Extra desu, followed by Alien

[Anonymous No.]

>>15529522
Try /vg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15529522
It's a natural consequence of the way the playerbase is distributed. There are plenty of baddies, fewer decent players, and very few who have taken the time to become good enough for challenge and score runs. Plus, new players tend to post more with asking questions and stuff. There aren't enough players/posters on /jp/ to support a thread targeted only at good players.

That said, it does seem like the general skill and effort level has gone down significantly in the past few months. Maybe there's something happening recently that's drawn in more new players?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15529541

heh I'm kinda on that route. Next month it'll be year since I got into Touhou.


I don't play MoF that much, but I believe its EX is one of the "easiest" ones. Honestly, Suwako kinda scares me (she shouldn't, I just need to be on the mood and study). I could try and battle her more tough, and take her more seriously.

Nue. Sometimes I play the level, and I tend to lose... in the past. The last time I've played it was like 2 months ago, the first time I've battled her... Geez I believe Nue was the easiest boss! I wasn't even trying THAT hard (cause I've had 2 lives left, and it was an all-new battle to me, I've expected to die quickly) and I "almost" beat her (well, kinda, 5-6 stars left haha thing is I've survived a couple of spellcards, more than I've expected). I still have to play it more.... wait till I focus on it

Right now, I'm focusing on Raiko. She, aswell as Koishi, amuses me, I'm curious, I enjoy it. I'm slowly climbing up through her battle. It's okay, I don't panic yet, I think (I have hopes) I'll eventually beat her someday. I know I can improve
The furthest I've reached last time was "Sixth Drum "Alternate Sticking""..and I got nervous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15529541

heh I'm kinda on that route.


I don't play MoF that much, but I believe its EX is one of the "easiest" ones. Honestly, Suwako kinda scares me (she shouldn't, I just need to be on the mood and study). I could try and battle her more tough, and take her more seriously.

Nue. Sometimes I play the level, and I tend to lose... in the past. The last time I've played it was like 2 months ago, the first time I've battled her... Geez I believe Nue was the easiest boss! I wasn't even trying THAT hard (cause I've had 2 lives left, and it was an all-new battle to me, I've expected to die quickly) and I "almost" beat her (well, kinda, 5-6 stars left haha thing is I've survived a couple of spellcards, more than I've expected). I still have to play it more.... wait till I focus on it

Right now, I'm focusing on Raiko. She, aswell as Koishi, amuses me, I'm curious, I enjoy it, she's cool. I'm slowly climbing up through her battle. It's okay, I don't panic yet, I think (I have hopes) I'll eventually beat her someday. I know I can improve
The furthest I've reached last time was "Sixth Drum "Alternate Sticking""..and I got nervous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15529695
>Rakio

Be careful when you encounter the lighting curves. Don't let your guard down.

[Anonymous No.]

Another one bites the dust. Reisen 1cc

[Anonymous No.]

>>15527751
I do at times. >>15527780
got it on the mark in saying the games being largely based around micrododging makes it hard to play with a stick, but it's great for less dense patterns. For example, games like LLS and TD work nicely, but you would pretty much be crippling yourself on something like SA or LoLK. For reference, I use a Seimitsu LS-62.

Also seeing as the other person recommended using a pad, I highly suggest one with a responsive d-pad. I wouldn't suggest using an analog stick, especially if you have one with a large throw or a circular gate.

[Anonymous No.]

A very fun glitch to have on 1.00a when the autopatcher wants to mess with your Rainmeter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15530301
>autopatcher
What exactly is this autopatcher I keep hearing about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15530303
The English patch that updates automatically.
It's different from the pre-patched games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15530303
Fanmade botnet to con retards who don't know how to manually patch their game to english, or for people who think they need the dialogue in-game translated when they can just hit up the wiki for the translations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15530303
You ever notice how there are no hard patches for games after 13? It's not because nobody ever got around to making them; the translations are on the autopatcher instead.

>>15530308
>botnet
It's totally open-source, so if you'd care to provide some evidence to back up that statement, go ahead. After all, if it's true, you'd really want to let people know what's going on, not just make spurious claims to get replies on /jp/, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15530301
I don't think that's the autopatcher's fault, I've seen it happen in the base game too.

>>15530308
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>15530420
Every time you use the autopatcher, an arrogant shit-eating brony creams himself knowing that an entire community he loathes continues to desperately suck his elite programmer dick to get the content they want.

Just one more reason to learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15522036
pls respond

[Anonymous No.]

>>15531265
damm I hate that guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15531265
At last, we find out the truth. You just don't like the people who made it, so you'll make up false claims about the software and post them on /jp/ to take out your frustration.

I couldn't care less about your internet drama bullshit. The autopatcher can stand on its own merits as a good tool, so nobody should give a fuck even if Satan himself made it.

Also, if you really wanted to stop people from using it, you would upload your own manually-patched copies of the latest few games and make them publicly available. At least that would be contributing something, instead of just shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15531402
found the horsefucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>15531755
what the fuck are you even saying?
fuck off to >>>/v/ already

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone recommend me any good fangame? preferably not danmakufu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437599
I've been trying to practice PCB extra stage for like the last week and not having spell practice is EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck does netplay work with IaMP? I just hit 9 and then 0 with rollcaster and it brought me to what looks like a practice screen, it lets me choose my opponent and when we go in game it just blocks. I've been sitting here for 5 minutes now in the character select screen and nothing has happened. Am I doing something wrong or is IaMP netplay just dead? Wouldn't be surprised if it was dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15437599
Any tips on murasa's final spell card on normal ? For some reason it's really kicking my butt !

[Anonymous No.]

>>15533883
Try getting her to spawn her rings in the corners, then move to the next one.

[Anonymous No.]

I just beat TD on hard. I do feel I cheesed too many things with bombs this run but I can work on getting a better clear. I enjoyed TD a lot. My first impression was pretty weak when I cleared it on normal my first time.

TD and LoLK are my least played main games. Might be why I had so much fun this time. It still felt new to me. I wonder if I should go for normal legacy LoLK now. I've been putting that off for a while now. I have a feeling it's going to be really hard. I did play point device mode again recently and had a lot more fun than when I had cleared it my first time. Not dying a bazillion times probably had something to do with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15533845
Oh I see, there's no matchmaking. Well shit. Well then if anyone wants to play some IaMP, you can post here and I'll play with you.