Elona Collection - Ecolle

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Elona mythology, the relations between the gods,

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What is known about the elona pantheon?

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Is it possible to soul spindle a god, and then them as a pet? Sounds like a lot of work for not much gain, but the idea still sounds interesting. Anyone tried it? I think in one of the older threads someone did, but not with the actual gods, but some of the godrace npcs.

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Ecolle? More like E. coli

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Is it possible to soul spindle a god, and then keep them as a pet? Sounds like a lot of work for not much gain, but the idea still sounds interesting. Anyone tried it? I think in one of the older threads someone did, but not with the actual gods, but some of the godrace npcs.

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>>15299952
Clever, but Elona a great game.

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>>15299953
You'd need to astral pen them first, but I believe you could do it. Though if you don't annihilate their stats & speed them before spindling, I feel like you may as well not bother.

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>Hunting job
>One of the enemies is a stray cat
>Little Girl kills it
>Read the log

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>>15299953
Yes, it can be done, but no matter what, you'll still end up getting hit by the penalty. In this case being the Soul Spindle penalty. It's admittedly less problematic compared to Monster Ball Atlases though.

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>>15300406
what is written in the log anon?

i remember doing hunting in hell elona. killing cats net me karma loss, even if hunting mision. its annoying to urvive those mission only to get killed by guards.

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>>15300422
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Stray_cat

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>>15300447
>"I'm...going...hom....e..."
oooooh

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Can one change the AI with custom for http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Sleeping_giant to prevent it from falling asleep?

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>>15300558
Depends on whether sleep is a special action here, which it doesn't seem to be. Custom governs a lot of the special actions and how you can interact with them, but it doesn't allow you to affect any AI on a level deeper than that. I don't think there's any bitflag that regulates self afflicting status conditions, but this seems to be a special case of some sort.

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>>15299953
Following up with >>15300419. My test character doesn't get sleepy fast enough unfortunately, probably should just elosnack edit the sleepiness gauge and make a new gene, but yeah here you go. Soul Spindle of Yacchan. Her stats will all drop to 50. To compare, the stats shown are for a freshly monster balled element dragon after the god nerf.

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What are the best ways to make money in Elona+? I have enough to afford a museum but with a bit more grinding I could get a shop instead.

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>>15300922
The shop will give you a better return than the museum, as long as you have a decent shopkeeper. The most efficient way to get money is through dungeon completion, but if you're not ready for that then board quests are easy money, as well as cargo running if you have seven league boots. You won't get what you need by picking up whatever you find on the ground, due to the way the negotiation system works.

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>>15300280
>>15300419
>>15300867
I didn't really mean to do it for their stats, just for the rp value, or whatever, you just level them up normally afterwards. And their ini is based on post-soul spindle stats, not what they had before.
I know that if you want a strong starting pet you just monster ball it instead, but this would just be more as a curiosity, I guess, if I ever decide to make a new character, can I soul spindle him a god or two, and then use them? Maybe also get a good starting pet to skip North Tyris to get the Kumiromi statues.

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>>15301229
>can I soul spindle him a god or two, and then use them?

If you wanted

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>>15300922
Museum is good steady income, but you probably don't have enough cards and figures yet for that.

Shop is good income, but you need to keep filling it up and get a good shopkeeper

Cooked food from farm vegetables and fruit is good, as well as any armor pieces found in dungeons.

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>>15301229
If you can get one god you can get'em all.

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Are there any good pcc body graphic mods? Not original characters, but just the default body. Would love to not have to make my own.

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How the fuck do i raise relation with things other than pet ?
They wont take food with love potion spice and throwing potions at them doesn't raise it either.
Are gifts the only way ? those things are rare as hell.

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>>15302137
Just talking to NPCs can raise their relationship with you. It can take awhile to get to the upper levels but it's there. Gifts can be found reliably on a vendor in Larna especially if you invest in him/her. Be prepared to pay a lot for them though. Throwing love potions should work. Only problem is that you aggro the NPC doing so. Might have to leave the map and come back for them not to attack you.

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>>15302137
Valentine's Day chocolates, gifts, and such. Gifts aren't too bad, considering I got a God to soul mate with I think...5 gifts of manic quality?

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>>15302428
Trying to astral pen a mob i can't talk to
I tested throwing love potion on my pet it doesn't go higher than 105
Larna shop isnt affordable right now

>>15302467
You can only give chocolates your pet offer you, not the ones you create. Have only 1 of the relevant variety
I tested on my pet starting at 105 relationship: 5 cheap gift, 2 so so, 3 exciting, 1 chocolate, 6 aphrodisiac food didn't get me above fellow.
Could it be shit gift don't increase relationship after a certain level (of relationship) ?

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>>15302597
If Larna's shop isn't affordable and you're not willing to save scum on general merchants you should probably just put it off, or be prepared for a very long "grind" to get better gifts. By that I mean just going about it the long way and waiting for inventories to stock the right quality of gifts, or wait for the NPC to magically hit the peak relationship that they'd normally hit from conversation.

I've never used anything but manics so yeah. But then I didn't need to use an ALP outside of testing until I was around level 200.

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Someone a few threads ago said you can use superior material scrolls on cheap gifts. That can save a lot of cash.

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>>15303154
Superior Material and Change Material scrolls both just add another prefix to the cheap gift (like rubynuswork cheap gift). If it isn't manic to begin with it'll still be a cheap gift, though I have no clue how strongly the material it's made of would affect it, considering it's the same item class as furniture in some regards isn't it?

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>>15302137
>gifts are rare as hell

1. learn investing
2. go to the general shop nearest to your home
3. while you have enough money
3.1. invest 10
4. go hiking
5. return an buy whatever

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So i gotten myself an estate. been saving aand didn't even hire a maid or getting a farm

questtion now is, i don't know where to put my new house. i remember once i had a home near noyel (than i repleced all relevnet tile in my house and farms with snow tiles, totally worth it) and it was nice since with return i had an access to large areas of the maps, but what now? somewhere near lumiest would also be nice for coverage, and derphy is where my guild is (still about 10 days before quests completes, i think ill just go to jail after checking in with the quest giver) but there i no altar there (is there?) and i want to keep sacrificing stuff to lulwy, at least till i get my first god pet... or put it near the dojo because im going for samurai theme for my char .

i want to cange my house map icon to something eastern, but i don't know the codes

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post the run one

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>>15304022
I blew a Rod of Wish to get an altar in my own house. You probably don't need to if you have big carry weight and flying scrolls, but it is an option.

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>>15304046
I used a wish on seven leaue boots... it was cursed and with horrible debuffs so i discarded it. my thirsty pet will get me another sooner or later.

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>>15304022
Return gets you an easy path to Vernis, Larna. By extension, you can get to Port Kapul and Lumiest relatively easily as well. South Tyris Checkpoint is probably the closest you get to Derphy unless you actually want to place your house there.

Personally I never bothered, since I only needed Derphy for quick Travelling mods on pets, and I set up a storage outpost with a gene machine there instead. That and the Thieves Guild wasn't that useful.

If you're seriously in doubt, then stick to Palmia. Eventually every quest ties back in to Palmia, and unless you have a tax collector box (which might be a good thing to invest in if you hate transit) you'll have to go back to the embassy every so often anyways. Truce Grounds is nearby - as is the blank shrine in Palmia itself.

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What do you think of my estate?

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>>15304445
derp

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>>15304166
yeah i went to palmia. i got the tax box already btw, think il get a diary next... or a shrine gate.

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>tfw finally ran out of growth scrolls pre-sock nerf
damn I totally forgot what low potential hell feels like

>>15304467
default/10

>>15304022
I live on Luminest island for the two magic shops, and I have a path of farms going to Palmia, so I don't get random encounters.

Combined with my own shopkeepers I get like 7 rolls for wish books and flying scrolls every restock. I can't really think of a better place to move.

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>>15305341
What about v2?

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I got a pet gold bell. How do I use it?

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>>15305546
Give it a ranged weapon and ammo and you win. Resist poison and bleed could be useful.

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Is there any easy way to get scrolls of growth, or at least a reliable way. I check my magic vendors pretty often for Potential and Flying, but I think I found all of one scroll of Growth in like 130 hours. I think you could get them from sox, but I checked the wiki, and couldn't find anything, I guess I'm just stupid.

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>>15305426
Nicer

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>>15305812
Trading with small medals is the only guaranteed way outside of merchants.

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>>15305985
So then the best way to get small medals is dungeons? I heard you could use Ragnarok to farm them, but the one time I tried using it I couldn't get it to activate.

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>>15305995
Once you're done burning through the medals that are hidden in towns and maps, you're left with only dungeons. If you don't know how to use the Ragnarok, you're probably not in the right time to use the Ragnarok though.

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I guess I'll do dungeons then, I'd just like to know how to do Ragnarok too, can I not do it because my melee skill is too low? I hate melee in this game, so the only leveling I got for it was when I bumped into enemies when running through low level dungeons.

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>>15305426
You can remodel tiles with a house board, in case you didn't realize. The embassy near Palmia sells those.

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>>15306018
I guess I'll do dungeons then, I'd just like to know how to do Ragnarok too, can I not do it because my melee skill is too low? I hate melee in this game, so the only leveling I got for it was when I bumped into enemies when running through low level dungeons.
I did reach lost irva, so I'm not super weak, if that's the issue?

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>>15306058
If you can survive Ragnarok (and the associated etherwind) with no trouble, then you're good to go. better that you have a way to kill lots of enemies quickly at once (magic ball, meteor?). Then it's just a matter of opening the occasional chests that drop from the dragons. I forget whether the spawn count is based on map size, making it most effective in a player dungeon.

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>>15306058
Ragnarok is based off on proc on hit, so the quicker you are the better. Defenses wise, you just need proper elemental resistances, or enough speed that you can oneshot every monster before they attack you. Thankfully for the most part Ragnarok's monsters are pretty weak, so if your resistances are good the residual effects should be more of annoyances than hazards.

>>15306081
Don't think it's based off of map size, the reference frame for summoning seems to be generally the same regardless. You can test it out by using Earth Dragon's Dance (Houzanha) and demolishing the majority of the dungeon to check the spawn range. The player dungeon gives you a good static place to perform the summoning though, so generally that's the advantage it has over just using it in a random dungeon or town.

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>>15306102
Is it okay to meteor it, or does that destroy the chests? Seems like the fastest way to clear the map.

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>>15306157
The round of meteor shouldn't destroy the chests unless you happen to cast over and over again, and even then I'm not sure the chests are destructible. Fire testing with Vesda they didn't burn, but then again Meteor might be a tier above.

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>>15305739
>Go to Puppy Cave
>Take a step
>Bell fires its bow 5 times

This is very cool. The only problem is I'm lv 11 and it's lv 1. Would a few runs in Puppy Cave level it quickly?

Oh and also, no low-level dungeons have been generated in 6 months in-game time. The lowest I've seen is lv 9. Is it just bad luck or something else?

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>>15306564
Gene engineer stuff into your bell if you want, but bells are mostly meant to be low-maintenance pets to get you through the early game. Later on bells don't scale well.

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>>15306564
If you're steadily burning through dungeons, the levels are going to increase, based on the level of the highest you've done. You can only reset this once you go into Act 2.

The bell's speed is technically a force multiplier, it can easily handle things that are a couple of levels above it if it is equipped with a sufficient weapon. It'll level steadily enough if you go through dungeons. Be wary that if you get too dependent on it, it can come back to bite you in the ass later.

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>>15306564
It's better to give it a firearm (machine guns work well) than a bow. It has better stats/growth for using firearms.

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>>15306054
I've used a house board tough...
or did you mean remodel the actual tiles, i.e turn wood floor into something never seen in elona?

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My original adventurer's daughter, with one of her father's pets as a protector comes face to face with the realization that she is less than the dropping of an ant. (Inheriting monster balls should seriously just be left for fun roleplay runs)

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>>15308178
He's saying if you don't change the actual shape of the house you might as well just be using the default layout. You're not committed to one big chamber with four small rooms, you can build whatever you like.

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>>15308249
i did change the layout. I just think a big chember with for madium rooms is nice (tough i would have used an upstairs if i could)

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>>15300922
Open a shop, get a slave pet with Negotiation and good charisma to run it, then set your shop type to whatever you can get the most of. If you run dungeons, set it to Blacksmith and sell every crap piece of gear you can find. If you have a farm/ranch with the Cooking skill, set it to Food shop and sell every scrap of food you make, even the cursed refuse piles. You'll get a decent amount of money daily, and even more items of the same type will get put into your safe so you can keep that shop type open longer before running out of stuff to sell. Keep switching it up depending on what you have the most of on hand.

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Mentioned this before but ever since 1.58 my specialized shops can't sell for their life. Someone mentioned the bit about the patch change adding the cancel rate but here's the thing... the specialized shops sell SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWER than the default shop. I'm also seeing some absurd sell prices like 86. These are shops with at least 80 items on stock, no worthless garbage. The 86gp sale was from an equipment shop. The shopkeeper has 270 neg and 130+ cha and my shop rank is 1. Is noone else having this sort of issue?

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Uhh guys?
Searching "Elona" in google images gives CP images from an ip website.
Anyone knows what's happening.

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>>15308900
Child modeling != CP
anyway i guess the name elona was taken by some upstart agency

i guess thats what happens when people keep searching 'little girl elona' and when a modeling agency checks google for little girl searches.... nah jk.

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When does the quest for the discarded ranch start, does the it only count the time spent in South Tyris?

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>>15308981
>>15308900
This isn't a joke?

Oh wow.

>Child modeling != CP

If what the other anon is similar to the content on otherchan's /hebe/, for example, then it's just softcore child-pornography. In both hard and softcore cases, children are being sexualized and exploited; it's disgusting and everyone that defends should be ashamed.

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>>15309673
search for yourself and see if what you find is considered softcore, or is it pure enough to not be considered sexualizing.

(unless all modeling is sexualizing)

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>>15309691
another anon checking in
absolutely not cheese pizza, but on the verge of inapproriate. that's just an opinion.

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>>15309673
Equating extremely bad things with less bad things never gets people to treat them similarly, except in the way that you don't want.

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Does spell enhance on items do anything for pets? Since I think it depends on their casting level, and spell enhance only effects spell levels.

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>>15310310
Pet's have their own spell damage formula but enhance spell does work for them too. I'd go off of the spell technical wiki rather than the spells wiki. The spells wiki is has some outdated information.

Anyhow, pet spell damage is Casting * 6 + 10 = Spellpower and when a pet has enhance spells it's SpellPower = Spellpower * (1 + EnchantStrength/1000), where EnchantStrength is capped at 1500.

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>>15312273
Forgot to say, use the spellpower that is calculated and plug it into the actual spell damage formula of the spell being cast on the technical page and you'll arrive at spell damage.

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>>15308786

its a bug will be fix in the next one.

Upon closer inspection, item sales at the default player's shop had a 7/8 chance of getting cancelled, so the cancellation chance for specialized shops has been changed to 1/2.

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I finally went to a 150 DL dungeon after just doing 120ish for a while and the first boss I got was an Element Dragon.

Gave that up real quick.

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How do you teach spells to pets?

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>>15313546
Need Elona Custom. I would go through Anna's blog/wiki stuff for more information on the specifics on teaching pets spells. Another way to teach spells to pets is through the NPC Leold.

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Will guildmasters remain hostile after leaving a guild, after just going incognito to learn a couple skills?

Can I still join the guilds, afterwards?

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>>15314241
You should still be able to join and the guild masters shouldn't still be hostile.

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Are "herb-in"s good for training potential of stats? Is it worse than potions of potential?
Actually I ate 3 of them, and nothing trained whatsoever.

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>>15314984
Herb in's level stats up, so that reduces your potential, and the tiny boost to potential it gives you isn't really enough. What's wrong with just potions of potential?

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>>15314990
Not enough.

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>>15315017
So drink more? Even if it says superb potential that only means 200%. I get about plus 10 of each attribute on average for about 70 herbed curarias, without having completely maxed out potential, but well past superb, along with drinking a few pots every once in a while.

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>>15315017
You're blessing your potions right? If not, you should be. Takes about 9 to 12 potions to go from hopeless to superb in all attributes assuming you blessed your potions.

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>>15314984
give them to your pets

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goddamn, how long does it take for these fucking shopkeepers to get more money and restock. I just want to sell all my shit, already.

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>>15317125
48 hours, I think, also just get a pet with super low speed when riding, like a bell or a snail, and ride it to pass time.

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>>15317125
>>15317129
did some testing not too long ago, regular shopkeeper restock in 3 full days while traders restock gold in 3 days and inventory in 7 days

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>>15317129
>>15317178
Thanks, lads.

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Quick question: The pastebin says I should download vanilla Elona before Elona+. Am I supposed to extract Elona+ on top of vanilla Elona, or is it standalone?

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>>15317882
I'm not sure why the pastebin suggests that, as far as I can tell Elona+ is its own standalone thing.

Elona+ Custom does require Elona+ of the same version though.

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>>15317891
Thanks, it did look standalone so that's why I doubted the pastebin.

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I am so lost

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>>15318273
>a -> rub -> ^

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>>15318284
But what does it do

Am I just fondling a little girl in the middle of the night in the rain while a lame horse clops nearby?

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>>15318289
Yeah.

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>>15318273
Well, my little girl is dead. ;_;

How do I restart I can't handle it.

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>>15318415
Go to the pet trainer in the bar in Vernis and buy her back for cheap.

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>>15318289
For now it's just flavor text however, as you increase its relationship score with you the flavor text changes a bit and your pet may get the boost buff. The buff increases its strength and speed for several turns.

>>15318415
Talk to the bartender in town. There should be an option to bring your pet back to life. The resurrection spell works too.

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>>15318415
Death is cheap in Elona, don't worry.
In fact, don't hesitate to torturerapemurder her.
She'd only be a little annoyed by it once you make the local necromancer raise her from the bloody pulp you bring him.

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>>15318455
>Those fucking stats
I just started yesterday, how long until I become that bullshit?

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>>15318443
>>15318455
>>15318462

Thanks, I restarted anyway cause I was a mess. We'll see how it goes this time.

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My mom used to have a coworker named Elona

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>>15318463
About 850 hours in for me it seems. Been playing the game off and on over the years. I never restarted my file or made a new character and just stuck with this one since forever.

Now that I think about it, I'm about 850 hours in and I haven't even capped one single skill or even one single spell yet on my character. Pretty crazy considering how other games play out. I'm close to capping at least two skills though. I'm also close to capping the max amount of AP a character can get if the wiki is right about 80,000 AP being the max.

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>>15318528
Well I should say that I had one character before this guy, a Juere Pianist, but after that I made Kai and haven't made a new character. The Juere Pianist was my first go at Elona. Learned a lot about the game all the while making every kind of mistake imaginable. Learned from all of it, visted these Elona threads for hints and strategies, then made Kai and the rest is history.

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>>15318490
where was he from ?

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Wait so pets need to eat? How do I keep track of their hunger?

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>>15318642
First get the stethoscope item. Use it on your pet and you'll see a bar. That bar is its HP and also comes in two colors. If it's red/pink that means your pet is full. If it's blue that means your pet is hungry and will most likely jump at any food on the ground to devour. It's better that you prepare meals for your pets and drop it on the ground when they're hungry. You don't want it just eating anything off the ground especially if its rotten since it can reduce the growth of attributes. Naturally, undead corpses are always rotten.

You can get a stethoscope from a general goods vendor or find it as a random item on the dungeon floor. Investing in said vendor can help make it show up I imagine.

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Suddenly my little girl disappeared

Pls help me find my little girl

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>>15318642
they can't die of hunger, its just that food train attributes

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>>15318765
How do I deal with identifying stuff? It seems like it's way too expensive to do for most junk, but I'm afraid to use unidentified items

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Pot for fusion allays that problem because you can just throw random unidentified items into the fake gold bar recipe to see if they are blessed or cursed.

Gold is very easy to make if you train noncombat skills. If you primarily do combat, a few levels in sense quality is all you need to know if stuff is <Miracle> or {Godly} tier.

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>>15318815
Using a cursed item on accident won't permafuck your character at all. Part of the fun in roguelikes is dealing with and unexpected drawbacks and succeeding in spite of them.

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How do you raise the attribute potential for pets? Does trainers raise both the skill and attribute potentials, whenever they use up gold?

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>>15318954
potential potions or picnic baskets
yes

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>>15312669

That's what I hope, but if you read the patch notes of 58, they added cancellation chance to specialized shops and it was at a rate of 1/32. It sounds like they're actually increasing it by making it 1/2.

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>>15318954
>>15319004
Just give them gold or teach them the pick-pocketing skill. I've never had to give them either of those items since teaching mine the skills. It's an enormous waste of time and materials to do so.

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>>15320298
post your strongest pet

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>>15320917
I've only given the bear a potPot a long time ago when I first caught it. That was because I got sick of spamming the spacebar after giving it over 500k.

Shera has, to my knowledge, never received potions of potential. Ever. She was my first recruit, the first to learn cooking, the first to learn pick-pocketing and the first to receive a substantial amount of gold from me.

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I am pretty fucking lost guys, help me out a bit
What do I do with all my junk? I have a lot of items but I can't drop any more in my house, and I'm overburdened from carrying a ton of shit to train Sense Quality. Tons of mats but no idea how to use any of them. My pet is tough but no idea if I should be doing anything to "raise" her
And no real clue about where to go. I'm just doing hunting missions in the first town and sleeping, but even that's being a problem since I can't carry or store the rewards they give me

I also tried casting a cure spell and died. Wooooooow.

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>>15321205
In Roguelike games like elona it's not usually necessary to hoard junk. Most equipment (anything below Miracle, really - the odds of a Good/Great item having loads of lines are very low) are not worth carrying and you should just dump them to a vendor.

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Reminder for new players that hungry pets can curse-test food for you.
They won't eat food they wander over if it's cursed.

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>>15321205
Get a shop, a pet with decent charisma and negotiation, dump all the stuff you don't need in there. Or just sell them to a vendor.

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>>15321205
If you must keep things look into storage deeds available at the embassy or the dungeon deed. If you're a spell caster you can look into the 4th dimensional pocket spell.

Materials are used in crafting things so in order to use them you need to use a crafting tool such as a gem cutter, alchemy kit, etc.

As for your pet, if you haven't beaten Zeome and are still in north Tyris, then only concern yourself with keeping your pets potential high at the moment. You can do this by having your pet visit its trainer in town which will train both its skill and attribute potentials. All you have to do is walk around town or rest and the pet should automatically visit its trainer assuming it has gold to afford its trainer. To have your pet afford its trainer let your pet loot the gold, gems, and other stuff of worth on dungeon floors. If you can afford to, let your pet loot the gold off of your dungeon boss kills as that's the fastest way for them to get gold. If your pet has the pickpocket skill that can help too. By having your pets potential be consistently high all the time hopefully it will level up its skills faster and also gain some attributes through it in the process.

As for no real clue where to go or feeling lost in what you need to do as far as the story goes you can always check your journal. You're not in a rush to complete the story though. Take your time if you need to. It's not going anywhere. Do dungeons, start your own band, become a farmer, become a harem lord, whatever you want. You can come back to the story when you feel ready to.

Once you get to south Tyris you can concern yourself with the more complicated things in raising a pet. Along with keeping your pets potentials high, you should look into feeding your pets herbs to actually increase their attributes quicker through just eating stuff. Setting up herb farms will accomplish this.

Speed is one of the most important attributes in the game and an easy way to increase your pets speed is by seeing an NPC named Leold and exchanging AP for speed. Potions that increase speed can help too. By now, you should have an idea of how your pet attacks and what skills govern those attacks. You want to raise those skills and the easiest way to do that imo is AP exchange with Leold as well.

I'm on my fourth pet now and have been doing everything above. Raised her attributes through herbs. This particular pet has a tendency when called on to the field to start insulting her enemies. As she approaches the enemy she throws panties and pelts the enemy with magic dart. Once close enough or if she starts out close enough, she unleashes MP breath. If she's in melee range she tends to use her whip and sometimes brainwashes enemies. So I'm focusing on the skills tactics and casting to up her damage. Going to raise them using AP. I may have her learn magic storm as well.

As a side note, a pets trainer cost is based off a pet's INI score and charisma. A low INI pet with a high charisma score shouldn't need a lot of gold for the trainer. My pet however does as it has a ridiculous INI score but I tell myself it's because succubus are high maintenance. The wizards had it all wrong about needing fancy magic circles to summon a succubus when all you needed were stacks of money but I digress. Anyhow, good luck with your adventures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15323499
This overlooks the value of spellcasting and music tickets early on. You aren't going to get extra life and mana from herbed herbs, and you're definitely not going to grind small medals for the last 1200 speed, you're going to get it from raising the spell level of summon spirits, which means buying scrolls of wonder, which means the earlier you start, the better. For powergaming, I wish someone would've told me how to (ab)use summon spirits early on, rather than 200 hours into my playthrough. Meteor is also nice.

This all presumes prioritizing higher stats over roleplaying, but there we are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15323954
True, but I had no idea what kind of character he was. Also, I tried tailoring what I said to answering his questions as simply as I could without writing a literal FAQ or scaring him off with too much information at once. I was already writing a block of text and figured if he wanted more in depth knowledge on something specific he'd ask me or you guys would answer it.

While I agree with you that it's better to start the collection process of wonder scrolls as early as you can if you're a caster or a person who hasn't shunned that aspect of the game, you certainly aren't screwed by any means by not doing so. Certainly can complete the story without increasing life or mana. Ditto for killing the demi gods and the gods too.

I didn't start the whole gathering of it until I completed South Tyris because that's around the time I learned about it. I also didn't have the 1000 or 2000 life/mana when I went to kill the gods either. I only had the default life and mana attributes when I killed the pantheon on my character. Shortly after that I took on the challenge of having my pet Yuki, the little girl, solo Itzpalt without my help and for that I got serious about leveling summon spirits.

On a side note and as a reminder, 2000 life and mana used to be the number to aim for and it did increase life and mana in the past at that number but now 1000 is the hard cap. Any increase beyond 1000 does nothing for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15321205
I'm assuming you want to keep all that stuff you're carrying around.

I dump a lot of my stuff in the two dungeons in Vernis (The Mine and The thief's hideout) since they don't reset. I've been using them for years and never had a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>Trick or treater comes my house
>Chose treat and lost karma so choose trick this time
>Cunt throws molotov X∞

Wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15324248
Have you had a beggar come to your house yet? All he says is please halp and doesn't indicate how much he'll take if you say yes. As it turns out, he takes 5% of your total gold on you. Think about how absurd that is if you have 20 million gold. The beggar is a millionaire now and probably never worked a day in his life. Could it be that Lomias murdered the beggar in the cave due to this bullshit?

#LomiasDidNothingWrong

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>>15324248
I hate these kids so fucking much.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok I accidentally ate the oven in Vernis while trying to cook holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>15323954
Not him but you could technically cap speed on herbs alone. It's much faster as he said to help the process along with AP and potions though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15324248
>>15324450
Ha ha, the little dearies, aren't they just so precious? As many punks and producers I've flipped couches on, I could never bring myself to be even the least bit upset with Halloween kids. But just in this case it was a choice between doomsday caramel or bottle bombs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15323954
Heh, I actually did grind the medals for the last 1200 speed though. Herbs did help a bit and so did those speed uppers. Mostly Hermes blood did it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15324248
You should always keep some spare romias in your inventory
Never rot so your good

[Anonymous No.]

>>15321205
Just buy shitloads of storage houses
I'm a chronic hoarder, so I have tons of them all over

I even have a storage house filled with only the corpses of the unique NPCS and bosses I slain, preserved via antibiotics potions. I like to save them because they are unique.

One may object to having a house filled with hundreds of corpses of vanquished enemies, but when in Elona....

[Anonymous No.]

>>15324630
You should open up a steakhouse friend. Buy a shop deed, remodel the place into a steakhouse, and sell all that perfectly cooked aged steak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15323954
>>15324149
What you guys mean by training stats via Summon spirits?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15324974
It's a means to an end. You see, if you take a party quest and replace(kill) the regular NPCs with high level spirits from that spell while keeping the named NPCs, you can earn an amazing score by impressing the spirits and named NPCs. I do this through mass distribution of love potions with alchemy rain. I can make about 2 million music tickets every few in game days from doing party quests like this. I use said tickets to purchase hero cheese and magic fruit from the NPC Stoke. The two items responsible for raising the life and mana attributes respectively. Both those attributes play a considerable part in the calculation of max HP and max MP. I also can use said tickets to supplement my herb supplies. Pretty much I can get around 1000 herbs of my choosing every couple of days in Elona. This supplements the many herb farms my character Kai already has and as such I have plenty of herbs to go around for me and my pets such as her >>15323499. Eating herbs leads to attribute growth/training.

You could also use the tickets to buy speed uppers if you want to but so far I've never had to use it for that purpose. I originally maxed out my speed with Kai >>15318528
using AP, Hermes blood, and the speed uppers I got from dungeons.

Since Hermes blood needs medals to get, and most of my medal scavenging came from dungeon boss drops, and I needed to kill big daddies for their little sisters, also found in dungeons, to get copies of Kumiromi statues for herb seed generation, I had no problem with getting my speed to 2000 without tickets.

It is an option though but do realize that when I say you need high level summon spirit spell I mean high. Like lv 300+. You'll need around lv 1000+ to get the amount of tickets I rake in. I was able to max out my speed long before I was able to get enough stock and spell levels in summon spirit to pull off the above but that might be due to when I started farming wonder scrolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15325122
I see, then i will start farming tons of scrolls of wonders asap! Thanks a lot for explaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15324149
Yeah, I know what you mean about spoilering, it's tough to gauge where some newer players are, and once this new spell update comes along things are going to get pretty wild as we try to figure out just what goes on behind the new mechanics. It seems like the spell update will either break the game wide open or make spellcasting significantly less viable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15324149
Meant to say that past 1000 life or mana, eating hero cheese or magic fruit will not increase your max HP or max MP. You can go past 1000 for both but there really isn't a point in doing so anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you guys keep your skill potentials up?

I'm climbing into higher plat requirments and my percentages are slowly drifting down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15326146
Raise the ones with the lowest potential first.
It should keep you at around 80% for all, more if you do more quests than necessary for replenishing karma.

Assuming a dungeon-heavy gameplay, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the best living weapon elemental damage just raw magic?

I know hardly anything resists it so that's what I went for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15326146
I used to rely pretty heavily on the scowls of growth you'd trade for sox with that looking universe dude from Lost Irva. Since that got sacked for the lower platinum costs, I started finishing up all the challenge and panic quests like crazy mad where, on average, I'll rack up 10 plat a pop. Neither quests will appear until after your fame starts ranging somewhere between 30k and 50k, and I think the higher you raise your fame afterwards, you're rewarded more Plat each finish, with the limit being 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15326398
I'm curious about this too. Which is better, living weapon with everything tied up in magic damage or a living weapon with its level ups and fusions spread out over various elements like mine? What kind of damage do you get with your living weapon?

For my living weapons I want to focus on panel 5 of my pic as it has less clutter. In one turn total damage(Just counting damage from darkness, magic, lightning, cold, and fire. Not physical damage) is 99,284. Total damage from one swing of one lightsaber, again just counting the above, 33,481.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15329413
Enemy resists are superb in everything except magic which is at normal.

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>>15326398
Damage wise the numbers are technically higher for raw magic, so technically if you're going for a munchkin build and looking to pump out the highest possible numbers without considering possible enemy resists at different stages of the game, then it's one of the best options.

Back in the day, rainbow spreads were useful to hit the 15 attribute cap, since living weapons used to be infinite, and you could stave off the bleeding effect infinitely if you knew what you were doing with mat kits. But at the same time, you didn't necessarily need to be using elements to fill the slots, they just happened to be more effective back then. Nowadays with living weapons capped off at L15, things are a lot more straightforward.

Not sure actually if a legacy build from an earlier version would retain those infinite living weapons actually, some of those things were ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15331020
Got some numbers to provide? I want to know just how much we're talking as far as difference in damage goes. Pictures of living weapon(s) with full magic damage and their numbers would be ideal but some sort of equation/formula that demonstrates their damage will suffice as well.

[Anonymous No.]

What's better? Sword&Shield, dual wielding, or two handing?

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>>15331134
I have one pet that specializes in two hand and another, her >>15329413, that specializes in dual wield. From what I've seen, dual wield can do more damage than two hand however it requires you to to have RNG on your side to get all the hits to come out. If RNG fails you, then two hand will do more damage. So if you want more consistent damage you would like two hand but if you are up for spikes in damage go with dual wield. Both are good though. Can't speak for sword and shield. Don't have a pet that has done that. My character isn't sword and shield either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15331134
I am using 4 shields on my mutant.

[Anonymous No.]

one hell of a trip training this thing and the hermit crab.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, these dungeon bosses can REALLY thrash.

Had to teleport away once to heal up in the short time it would take him to find me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15331796
What are those two things, laying on the floor? Looks like monitors or something.

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't played in a few years. Is this game still being developed and stuff? How about the translation for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15331704
Pretty cool. Looks like its developing nicely.

>>15334003
Yes development is still ongoing. As for the translation that's going on too and there has been major developments on that front too. Specifically, the reintroduction of cutscenes that were missing from the english, more stuff translated, and stuff corrected.

If you were to come back and play, I'd suggest snagging Elona+ and after getting that, applying Elona Custom to it if you're interested in playing it translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15334112
I never heard of Elona Custom before. What is it?

[Anonymous No.]

Also what's the reason why I should download Elona before Elona+? I remember Elona+ being standalone before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15334129
This should get help you out.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/Elona_Custom

>>15334192
That's correct. Elona+ is a standalone. You can skip regular Elona if you want to. Elona+ has a lot more content than regular Elona and the game mechanics are a bit different. I suppose some people prefer the mechanics of regular Elona over Elona+ or they have this misunderstanding that by somehow playing regular Elona it will help them prepare for Elona+. Anyhow, I'm part of the group that prefers Elona+ though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15334112
>>15331704

Just farming hero cheese any way and other stat boosting food items

[Anonymous No.]

>>15334229
Pastebin said to download Elona first before downloading Elona+ so I was confused since I thought Elona+ needed the original Elona to run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15334454
Yeah someone needs to update the pastebin. A lot of the information in there is worthwhile but that one part you mention is especially confusing.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a full compilation of the Etrian Odyssey sprites? I swear there has to be more than Protector, Ronin, Princess, and Hoplite (I think there were more but I don't remember).

[Anonymous No.]

>>15338592
Uh wow never mind. I found the sprite I was looking for on the Elona upload two pages in.

[Anonymous No.]

Good to go?

Also gona savescum small medals to boost speed so high initial speed is not a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15339325
Enjoy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15339325
>Catgod
>No cat ears
Son...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15339436
No tail too.

Where's your god now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15339534
>catgod
>not a cat
>not a god
Truly the Holy Roman Empire of Elona characters

[Anonymous No.]

E+C1.58.2 is out

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:22264#6

What's the approrpiate format for custom? Elona+C1.58.2, Elona+Custom1.58.2, either of the first two with spaces between the versions and name or just the first one I used?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15339325
A bit confused. The catgod race has good initial speed right? But in exchange for that your INI score is higher than most others making AP farming harder. Getting small medals may lead to more Hermes blood leading to more speed but I'm not sure how that fixes the higher INI score you're stuck with. So what problem is getting fixed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15339975
Shh, he's supposed to realize that after putting hundreds of hours into his character.

[Anonymous No.]

So I hear of people comparing this game to Morrowind. What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15340419
Never heard this comparison before. Only thing I can think of that is similar is how you can go off and do your own thing completely ignoring the main quest and sinking tons of hours into whatever you're pursing. Maybe that's the similar feel they get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15340522
Honestly I would compare this game to Daggerfall before Morrowind.

[Anonymous No.]

I was told I could become a wizard that makes monster girl waifus in this game

Is that true?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341140
You could become a faggot that plant herbs at all your 100 farms and repeating same quests million times in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341140
It's true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341140
Capture/dominate a (female) monster of your choice and use Gene Engineering to mix it with enough human slaves until it has a full set of gear slots. Then add in a custom portrait/sprite and presto, monster girl (boy).

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341168
Just got into the farming side of this game. This is pretty cool. Haven't seen any of these herb plants though. Lots of vegetables and fruits instead. Wonder what herbs can do. Guess I'll find out later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341140
You can both be a wizard and have
A lamia wife
A centaur wife
A slimegirl wife
A lizardgirl wife
A zombiegirl wife
A werewolf wife
A scorpiongirl wife
A spidergirl wife
An anubis wife
A wolfgirl wife
A catgirl wife
A doggirl wife
A golem wife
An android wife
You know what, the list keeps on going

But yeah, you can be a wizard with a monstergirl harem and sleepshare with them every night

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341567
oh, and harpies and succubus and EVEN HUMANS

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341567
Well, I'm a shit gunner that's been doing boring ass hunting missions over and over because I'm too bad at everything else. At least I managed to cast a spell without dying once.

What do

>>15341570
>and EVEN HUMANS
The real monster

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341168
>repeating same quests million times in this game.
Same could be said about every video game ever. Once you've played enough games, almost all quests start to sound like they follow a generic formula with the same objectives at their very core. You either like repetition or you don't. Although if you don't like repetition I can't see how someone ever gets good at anything. Not exactly talking about video games in this case but whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341576
Have you tried doing low level dungeons? If you can handle hunting quests then maybe you can start doing dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341719
Well I tried one but on the sixth or so floor I'm kind of outmatched also is there a point? Are there actual rewards for clearing out random mines?

[Anonymous No.]

I like the cute touches this game has sometimes

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341730
Gold and small medals.
The gold part is laughable at low level, but soon enough it'll be your main income.
Medals though are the only source, aside from the odd chest ( which you also get in dungeons anyway ).

[Anonymous No.]

>>15341730

the bosses always drop whatever shitty gear they were wearing but the small chests the bosses drop have high chances to have miracle q and better equipment or potions of cure corruption.

[Anonymous No.]

Can this game be played for score? I tried to look up the formula for it but can't find it anywhere. I heard it rewards high turncounts instead of low turncounts like other roguelikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>15344956
Yes, although your score is kept hidden until you beat certain portions of the game. Such as killing Zeome and clearing act 1. I think certain difficulties, advancing, inferno, etc also add multipliers to your score or something to that effect.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder, should I try to roll a golem again? I want to like their tankiness I really do, but they are so goddamn slow and are terrible with mounts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346092
Golems are generally agreed upon to be top tier, and speed is no biggie for real dawg. If class rerolls were possible, many would choose golem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15345156
Cool. Any advice for getting started on it? I have no idea what even modifies score other than difficulty, and the wiki and googling were no help.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to be an overpowered (and hyperachieving/multitalented) piece of shit, accompanied by many overpowered pieces of shit.

How do I accomplish this, guys? Bear in mind I'm a just-starting simple Gunner who doesn't understand the game very well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346275
You grind five to ten hundreds of hours, or hack the stats in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346283
But grind what? What am I supposed to be doing to raise my powerlevel

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346275
Grind your ass off, keep potentials up, start an herb farm once you have the money to sustain it.

Its really hard to fuck up your character, its even harder to not become a multitalented godkiller. Every stat can grow, your class bonus can be changed, even so you can become the strongest martial artist Wizard if you really cared. Or a gunner with ridiculous fireballs.

The only permanent things you can't change are race bonuses, and Golem's dim immunity is a pretty popular one for powergaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346275
Get Gardening and Cooking, get a pet Cooking, farm herbs for a few thousand hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346300
>>15346295
How do I teach pets skills

My little masochistic girl just picked up teleporting and does it all the time, but that's all I know

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346308
No, she's wearing cursed equipment which is forcing her to teleport everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346308
Gene Engineering can give your pets skills like cooking and mining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346275

Raise charisma like a dirty whore, get a full team of pets. Also keep stats high and go for those God gears. You seriously need them to get ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

So.
I got me an idea.
Reading up on the riding skill page in the wiki while planning my next run, i got to an interesting tidbit.
Complicated body seems to be completely ignored in the formula to determine riding and ridden speed.
Gavela give limb addition service to pets too.
The little sister is level 1.

Gentlemen.
27 limbs mutant PC full of weapons/claws, 27 limbs little girl mount full of shoes/seven leagues boots.

[Anonymous No.]

>make beer for the first time
>try to give some to a girl

>"I don't want it it's too creepy"

Wow, cuts deep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346420
Better to keep your little girl without a speed penalty from the extra limbs. Sounds solid otherwise, let us know how it goes, and you'll need a way to get to South Tyris fast first.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Can I have multiple waifus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346577
That's the thing, the mount also have it's own complicated body-free formula for speed, apparently.
What seem to determine its speed is base speed, your riding skill and its strenght.
Complicated body apparently is not applied at all, like like for you.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a reason why my pet doesn't cook breakfast, anymore? I'm sleeping at the adequate times, and he doesn't have a blanket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346635
Up to 15. And you can marry them all!

>>15346662
That's weird but very interesting. Speed rings would be more effective (and flexible) than boots if you're looking to increase speed, though.

>>15346696
>In Elona+, if you wake up from sleep in the morning (between dawn and noon) and you have any pets in your party with the cooking skill and Fellow relationship, it will cook you breakfast.

Has your pet been getting brutally murdered too often, and therefore lowering its relationship level with you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346696
Nevermind, I just realized that the last few times I slept were with the Need Sleep status, so I slept more than usual. I'm retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15346230
Not much else I can say on the subject. I guess the best way to get an awesome score is just to stay alive and play for a very long time? Not sure what else aside from difficulty modifies score. More info about difficulties can be found here. http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Balance


>>15341576
>>15346275
Hello fellow gunner. Instead of worrying about how to become overpowered you should worry about just keeping yourself alive to start with. A lot of the stuff that people use in the game to accelerate their character's rise to power isn't available to you to start with. So instead, I would suggest solving the problems that are probably plaguing you right now which are gold and keeping potentials up.

Gold should be obvious in why you need it and having so little of it is a problem but the reason why you want to keep potential up is because the higher it is the easier it is to raise your skills and attributes.

For gold, you should be getting a decent amount through your hunting but you might want to expand into other avenues of wealth generation. Have you gotten a wish yet? If not, have your pet drink form wells or do it yourself if you're especially daring. You'll get one eventually. Use your first wish on a pair of seven league boots. Once you get a pair, look into doing job board quests like the one called before it's too late, escort quest, and possibly cargo runs. Use the wiki to get you up to speed on how to make money from selling cargo.

By doing job board quests you should be getting gold but another perk of doing them you get platinum coins as well. Use the platinum coins to learn skills your character doesn't have. To do this, visit the trainer NPC in town. Once you get the mining skill, start knocking down the walls in your home/cave to raise constitution. Once you have weight lifting do harvest quests in Yowyn. All those vegetables you're forced to lug around will train your weight lifting and in turn may help you raise strength.

So you have all this gold now, new skills, and may have raised some attributes along the way. Unfortunately, your skill and attribute potentials have all taken a beating. Your attribute potentials show up as hopeless and your skill potentials are 100 or less. You can use your platinum coins you've earned so far to increase skill potential from the trainer but for your attribute potentials you will want potions of potential. Magic vendors carry them and they will show up more often if you invest gold into them. Try to get their shop level to 150 when you invest in them. Also, don't just invest in one magic vendor. Invest in all the magic vendors you've come across. There should be at least one in every town.

By now you should be able to do low level dungeons if you haven't been doing them already. Dungeons give gold and platinum as well. Most importantly they give medals but that's a discussion for another time. You now have several options at generating wealth and should eventually have enough to buy yourself a new home. Try to aim for a castle or if you're incredibly good with saving your gold and or making it, get a palace. Fill it with magic vendors to further help you in keeping your attribute potentials up

Do you have a pet? Have you been taking good care of it? If you take good care of your pet your pet will take good care of you by cooking you breakfast which will help in restoring attribute potential. Try to get your pets relationship to fellow or higher and sleeping at 9PM to wake up early for said breakfast.

By now you also should have some ether corruption. You've been doing dungeons right? Those material spots you've harvested should of yielded you some casino chips. Use said chips at any random blackjack table in Palmia or Derphy. Win five times in a row and you'll get a potion of cure corruption.

Anyhow, that should get you started in the right direction for the game. Once you or anyone else taking note of this has actually landed themselves a castle or palace, a decent amount of gold to their name, and a character sheet full of superb potential and 400% skill potentials, you'll be in a better place to take advantage of any further advice or talks on the matter of growing your character's power. Since you're also further in the game, you'll also be able to actually understand the stuff referenced.

Looking forward to your or anyone else's character sheet post that manages to even get as far as the point mentioned above.

TLDR: Read the pastebin. The stuff mentioned is in there r-right?

[Anonymous No.]

Animal bones on ranch are just garbage, or do they show that some of the creatures died?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15347322
>get a palace. Fill it with magic vendors
After I get 2 magic vendors I can't get more, they don't appear in the recruitment list. I spent 3 years in game, cheking almost every day if magic vendor will appear, but no. Wtf? Just terrible luck, or is limited with 2 only?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15347368
You can get a lot more. I have 8. You probably ran into the same bug I did. The bug has it where magic vendors on the house board no longer show up for hire because some of the magic vendors share the same name. To fix this bug, go to the magic vendors you currently have at your home and rename them. Now wait a day or two. It really shouldn't take long. Go back to the board and check and for new magic vendors to hire and they should be listed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15347399
Oh. Thank you, I'll try.

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody got some good character.bmp file?
I'm too lazy to edit it by myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15347733
This is mine, a mishmash of other sheets that got posted here https://u.pomf.is/jmngqb.bmp

[Anonymous No.]

>>15347742
Nice set, thanks a lot mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15347322
Yes, it's all in there, except the bit with the magic vendors. I'll add that in right now. Thanks, Kai!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15347352
It's just garbage, don't worry.

[Anonymous No.]

Do herbs rots? Also, first post here after lurking for almost one year. Hi, /jp/!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15348666
Heya anon, glad to have you!
And no they do not rot.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the best choice for riding pet, which you would upgrade to the end of the game? Of course you can choose anyone, even the first Yowyn's horse and grind her to 2k speed, but it is not rational.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15348666
Congratulations!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15348863
Any level 1 pet with the chorse bitflag is a good choice.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Riding#NPCs_with_the_mount_bonus_or_penalty

If your goal is to max out that pet, then initial speed doesn't matter - the only thing that matters is the starting bitflags and INI number. A level 1 NPC like a little girl or putit or older sister all have chorse bitflags (not sure about their evolutions, someone should test that!) and also have low INI numbers. Chorse isn't absolutely necessary, but it makes riding more effective when starting.

[Anonymous No.]

I want a 750 deck. Even without cheating or savescumming you can get so much things from it.

[Anonymous No.]

>Upcoming patch notes for 1.59

> Changed the cMetal bit flag so that it only reduces regular physical attacks now. They usually get killed before they kill the player, so this should be reasonable.
>To be honest, I've always wondered if having the equivalent of 4 times the health and having armor that resists magic was too much, so cArmor bit flag has also been changed to reduce only regular physical attacks.

REST IN FUCKING PIECES

[Anonymous No.]

>>15349273
lame

[Anonymous No.]

>>15349273
This is old news anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking for a semen of a rich person with a 750 deck too.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>15350412
Kek'd.

[Anonymous No.]

[Changes and additions]
* Added 3 floors of content to Act III main quest.
* The conversation windows in cutscenes will no longer display impress, attract, and anniversary.

[Fixes]
* Fixed special abilities granted by non-AP feats getting displayed in the list when you change equipment after hiding them.

[In development]
* 300x500 full-body portraits (black is transparent) can now be selected for pets in their respective conversation windows. This is so that you can have them ready by the time the update is released.
** Details on how to use these is in help.txt in the user folder. Another portrait can be designated for Form Shift.
** Characters that have a full-body portrait set will no longer display their regular portrait in their conversation window.
** If the full-body portrait is too wide or if the game window is too narrow, the picture will stick out of the conversation window so you'll need to make sure it's of the right size.
** You can have different versions of the full-body portrait - one for normal state, one when weakened (HP less than 50% of max), one when having fun (musical note icon is displayed), and one when happy (heart icon is displayed).
** It takes a lot of effort to make different versions of a portrait, so it's possible that I won't create any more conditions.
** This is to strengthen the feeling of having a loyal partner throughout your adventures.
** I'd like to create something else in the future that also uses these portraits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15350771

Waifus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15347322
The only info I've been able to find on difficulty is that dying multiplies your current score by 0.1 and No Future gives a 20 times modifier to your final score. So deathless No Future runs seem like the way to go.

I've got up to Zeome on my current inferno run and I really like the game, so I'm hoping to try some score runs next, but I can't find any info on how time relates to score. If score is decreased with higher turncounts (like other roguelikes generally), then speed runs and careful resource management are rewarded and that sounds like a fun challenge. If it increases or is is unrelated to turncount, then the best way to get score is to just grind like a naive run and it doesn't seem worth attempting.

Absolutely no one has been able to give me a good idea of how score works, though.

[Anonymous No.]

How many companions can you have at a time? Is there a cap?
Is it possible to go through everything with just your pets killing everything?
If I want to be tanky what should I train and focus on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15351260
yes you can

[Anonymous No.]

>>15351260
15 max. That comes with its own set of challenges though. But it's possible for your pets to be mass murder engines yes, after a very substantial amount of effort put in (Though technically it's easier to boost your pets than to boost yourself).

[Anonymous No.]

>>15351260

There is a hard cap but I forget it. The soft cap is 2 and increases by 1 every five charisma above ten

Yes it is very possible but some bosses will fuck you up

Maximize potential in weight lifting, Wear heavy/medium armor and take hits to the face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15351290
>Yes it is very possible but some bosses will fuck you up

That largely depends on what pets he gets to be honest. There are plenty of pets that are more than sufficient to destroy the story bosses. It doesn't help them that unlike the Void, bosses generally don't scale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15351260
Listen up to be a cool armored bitch owner you have to train evasion, great evasion, healing, shield, medium/hard armor and healing spells.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15351260
It's possible to let your pets kill everything, but beware.
Loyalty is not set in stone.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright this game is seriously making my hoarder instincts kill me literally via squashing backpack, and the selling junk trips will make me quit the game before long.

What is the real valuable stuff to keep starting out and what isn't? And how do I tell when everything's unidentified?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15347322
Thanks for the info, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to make the game window bigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15352335
Esc > Game Setting > Screen & Sound > Screen Resolution. Change it to one of the pre-sets, then restart the game.

>>15352311
For me, I just pick up jewellery or other equipment that weigh less than 0.5s. If you have sense quality, level it up to the point to where you can see the quality of most equipment without having to identify it (i.e a (good) or (great) modifier in front of the item a.k.a garbage) and pick up only equipment with <miracle> or {godly} quality. Sell rare equipment at your blacksmith shop for easy money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15352362
Thanks, I really need this. What about spellbooks, scrolls and potions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15352311
Keep like one or two copies of common request items for some easy platinum and gold. Also keep a copy (in your house) of every tool type item - stethescope, pot of fusion, carpenter tools, command flag, taktstock, whistle, etc..

Give gem items you don't want to your pet(s) so they can sell them for money and train potential. Keep Rubinous, Emerald, Sapphire, and Diamond in your home somewhere for when you can use pot of fusion to refine them - then get your pets to sell them for way more money.

Check the item fusion crafting list and keep ingredients for anything you might want to craft in the future.

Get the Sense Quality skill from a trainer if you don't already have it - as you level it up it will allow you to tell whether an unID'd equipment is bad, good, excellent, miracle, or godly just by looking at the item. At that point keep only Excellent or better.

Only identify items you need to upgrade (i.e. if your weapon is miracle then don't bother identifying Excellent quality weapons), and keep any item identified with useful bonuses (bonus levels to crafting skills, elemental resists, etc).

>>15352335

There is an option in settings to change resolution. Alternatively you can find the text file where your settings are saved, and find the line where resolution is, and input your desired resolution (There's an upper limit but I don't recall what it is).

[Anonymous No.]

>>15352375
Buy (or steal) a bookshelf and place it in your home. You can use that to store books and scrolls.

Read any spellbooks you find, if you can't then just drop them in your house somewhere. Don't feel compelled to keep too many copies of the more common ones but try to keep at least one copy of everything you find.

Do keep an eye out for Spellbook of mutation as I believe there's a quest later that needs it.

Potions you can mostly just quaff for Alchemy skill training. Keep a few potions of silence handy to silence enemy spellcasters, potions of slow for RP purposes (bless them then quaff to slow down your aging).

Keep potions of speed, cure corruption, cure mutation, and cure spirit and body. Drink a BLESSED potion of cure spirit and body occasionally - they buff your stats (for a very long time - something like 1 year in game time, or until you die).

[Anonymous No.]

>>15352375
Most scrolls aren't worth hoarding. Keep some teleport scrolls on yourself for emergencies, scroll of escape or return for ease of travel, and maybe magic map and oracle for dungeon runs. (Sell oracle scrolls for now if you're still new). Scrolls of inferior/change/superior material are useful for when you want to reroll the material on an item. Scrolls of uncurse/vanishing curse are useful for obvious reasons, but you should keep a couple scrolls of curse handy as well as sometimes cursed items are needed or better for what you're trying to do (i.e. offensive potions, alcohols).
The only really good stuff is like scrolls of feather which is really rare to find outside of invested vendors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15352362

I was hoping to make the window bigger while maintaining the resolution. The teeny sprites strain my eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>15352375
Always pick up spellbooks, regardless of what it is. High spell stocks are always good. Some of them are ancint books that you can turn in for the mages' guild quota.

Identify all the scrolls (mossy, bloody, blurred, etc.) so that you know what they are before you pick them up; don't want to accidentally miss a scroll of gain attribute. Keep identify and (greater) enchant weapon/armor, that's less money spent on expensive NPC services early on. Keep inferior scrolls, use them to turn engagement rings into raw and eat them for charisma training early on (won't need to do this mid-end game). Keep and bless uncurse scrolls, as they have the additional effect of uncursing your entire inventory. Keep or pass on scrolls of vanish curse, there won't be many instances where your equipment will be doomed. Pass on useless scrolls such as detect items and magical map, these come in spell or rod form and take up inventory space.

Keep health potions on the side. You'll need these for emergencies when you're silenced and/or dimmed and cannot use spells. I tend to miss with silence potions due to my piss poor throwing skill, so I recommend a rod of silence if this is your case as well.

In short, just follow what >>15352392 and >>15352405 said.

[Anonymous No.]

The only thing I'd add is that if you're at a point in the game where dying is still an issue and you're hoarding because you feel like you can't afford to drop stuff off for whatever reason, consider making safehouses. Storage houses are nice home away from homes under certain circumstances.

[Anonymous No.]

>The thread for this is on /jp/
aw shit I never knew this game was loved, is any of the Elona+ Custom worth it or should I just use Elona+? About to start playing again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15352939
Try playing Elona+ Custom if you can. More end-game content, English translated dialogue, artifacts, etc. There's also custom pet AI if you so please. Also, the chief modder, AnnaBanana, posts here occasionally. She's usually receptive of any suggestions or issues you may have.

Good luck on your new character!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15352992
Sometimes I wonder if anyone ever notices the second part of her name isn't actually Banana.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone here play no-future mode? Would you recommend it?
I'm not a beginner and I really like some things such as the low carry limit and also the equipement dropping on death and so on. What seems annoying though is that you receive a -100 karma penalty if you save and quit the game while you are not at your home, (Did I understand that correctly?) and that you get karma penalties for killing cats and dogs. Is that stuff as annoying as I think it is? I want to keep this character for as long as possible.

Also, what are your thoughts on Overdose mode? I used to play on it because it felt like I skipped the grind that I hated but now I think that it made be become too powerful too fast. I feel like it takes away from the roleplay and fun strategics when you become too good, it just gets boring more quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354020

No Future is really too annoying for most people here to play it. Honestly the only real difficulty worth the challenge is Inferno mode and even that has you wondering if it's any fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354027
Inferno mode is the same as no future but with permadeath. It's even harder so why would you think inferno is fun if you don't even like no future?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354020
Inferno and No Future give people a more of that "hardcore roguelike" feel, so for people that expect to be punished and enjoy being tormented on top of what RNG can do to you already, it's good for that. If you feel like normal holds no challenge it's not bad to try, but "difficulty" in inferno/no future can also be really just seen as unavoidable deaths in some circumstances. Some builds definitely aren't as viable in those modes compared to normal. When the game was more buggy and crashes were more common, basically you'd hit unavoidable slaps in the face. The stat loss that came with the penalty was mostly what people found irritating about bug crashes.

The equipment destruction thing is mostly an issue in early/mid game. I don't remember if the enemy damage equipment destruction pierced through things like acid proof, though I do remember that degradation was a pretty prominent thing at one time, and you'd naturally see your +10 drop to a -10. Pretty sure the karma hit wasn't as high as -100 though, but it didn't matter too much when most NPCs could kill you off early on.

Overdose lures people into a false sense of complacency. It's fine for roleplay builds, but generally it kind of gives a false impression about the nature of the game. Removing the grind is one thing, but when the endgame is essentially a never ending grind, overdose just makes that revelation a bigger slap in the face for some people. Generally if people are going to play overdose I'd just suggest elosnacking and doing a more controlled "grindless" run. snack in some potential pots every 5 - 10 levels or something, I dunno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354107
I'm looking to get into no future for role playing reasons, I like it when the stuff is so hard/realistic you are really afraid of dying and you really need to prepare before entering a dungen and so on. does that sound viable to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354020
You can quit and save anywhere, only quitting without saving will net you -100 karma. It will also permanently remove life.

I liked playing No Future but the karma punishments for killing cats and dogs was honestly too much for me.
It's annoying as shit because they're all over dungeons and pets attack them on sight.
Made the game more annoying than it was worth. Every other part of the mode I can deal with, but you will be locked to Derphy with a -100 karma pretty much always. You pretty much can't dungeon dive at all, so I gave up playing No Future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354191
Anything is "viable", but in no future generally the preparations you need to make aren't the ones you might be thinking of. From a broad perspective, No future just increases the amount of grind you need to do by making it more necessary to grind before you start dungeon trawling.

Dying in inferno generally isn't bad since it's over in one go, but dying in no future can be potentially even more infuriating if you haven't gotten used to the idea of not using the best equipment you find, and just always wearing sacrificial loadouts until you need your best gear for a boss. Once you get to used to that and know what mobs to never fight for karma reasons, then dying isn't that big of a deal at all.

The early game for no future is actually not too different if you generally dive puppy cave anyways. Don't use a pet unless they're there for meat shielding, don't be afraid to die as long as you don't have anything important on you, and dump stuff off quicker than usual. If anything it just increases the amount of trips you need to go back and forth.

If you go about it willy nilly and lose all of your karma, then yeah karma management can be a pain in the ass but if you micromanage it out down to the individual step level a lot of that can be bypassed. Generally people start grinding for hero cheese from the get go, even using sub optimal methods. Though back in the day this was because the Life/Mana permaloss could happen randomly.

At the end of the day the playmode isn't that much different from other roguelikes. If you already approach the game with the mentality that any death (you or pets) means wiping the game entirely, then you're probably fine to go through no future.

[Anna !NwnXkFZetU No.]

>>15353992
I believe you are the first one I've ever seen comment on it, actually.

[Anonymous No.]

So as a gunner what god do I suck up to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354614
Opatos, because stability is important to aim well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354614
Go Mani for the shotgun if you can't find a good gun to begin with, then sweep through the rest and fall on speed or learning to grind on if you want. Can go back to Mani afterwards when you feel you've grinded sufficiently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354066
In Inferno mode, dying sucks.
In No Future mode, living sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354107
the challenge of inferno is not splitting an artery whenever your game crashes and it thinks you savescummed

though admittedly the last time I tried was over half a year ago, and elona seems a lot more stable these days

maybe it's time to try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>15355048
I have only had Elona crash once, ever.
It's pretty damn stable nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

I found a bunch of cargo from highway rogues, but I can't seem to be able to sell it anywhere (only food cargo is for sale). Where do I unload this junk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15355182
Cargo vendors buy it. They're generally located in the pubs in various cities. You may not be able to sell it all at once, though, depending on how much gold the vendor has on hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15355182

only cargo merchants buy or sell cargo, they are usually near a tavern

[Anonymous No.]

>>15355358
>>15355328

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>get a farm started
>visit it
>press wrong buttan
>it's fucking gone

Woooooooooooow

[Anonymous No.]

as an early game wizard I want more magic arrow books, I fucking invested in a magic shop but nobody will sell the damn books to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356009
You need to join the mage guild. Seriously, after you join them stocking 99% of all your spell needs becomes so much easier. The mage guild has an NPC that lets you reserve spell books. You select the spellbooks you want the NPC to carry and he'll carry them for you to buy. If you invest in said NPC you can get tons of spellbooks of the spells you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356009
Yep, you're at the mercy of magic shop vendors until you join the mage guild. While you're collecting the ancient books needed to join the guild, you should invest in more than one magic vendor to up your chances of getting the books you need.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to change my portrait midgame?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356053
Bring up your character sheet(probably the c key on your keyboard). At the very top of your character sheet this is a bar that lists hint, portrait, page, close. You want portrait(probably the p key).

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356090
Thanks, got it.

[Anonymous No.]

Why am I getting shit Karma all of a sudden for no reason jesus fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356670
You can lose karma by not completing item delivery quests before the due date (it's considered stealing) or failing escort quests by letting the escort die. You also lose karma by fighting and killing NPCs you can talk to, even if they're the ones who initiate combat.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder why archers so unpopular. Not sure if I've ever seen any.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356699
I don't think I did any of that, guess I'll be more careful.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw lost several hundred thousand gp dying at the cat house

Fucking bullshit cats

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356784
Wow so I guess dying at the cat house also gives you like - Karma. Fucking hell now I'm in prison with -97 and my only crime is stubbornly trying to get the job done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356784
>>15356854

Is there a way to save money so I don't lose everything dying repeatedly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356670
Have you paid your taxes? It's easy to get side swiped by massive karma loss when you forget to do that. Especially if you miss a couple of bills...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356904
I think he is playing normal mode or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356871
Heh, speaking of cats, you want the kitty bank item.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Kitty_bank

I've mainly found them in random dungeons. I hear you can get one by pickpocket one that some vendor has in Noyel. Or, you can get one in the Cat Mansion this >>15356784
guy is trying to finish I think.

You won't need to worry much about kitty banks later. They're really for new players. As you get stronger you'll die less and less and you will be able to make back what you lose very easily if you were to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356936
>will be able to make back what you lose very easily if you were to die
Isn't it always the same amount?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356944
On death I think you lose 1/3 of your gold. So if you had a million gold that's roughly 333,333 gold. Dungeons bosses later on can drop 999,999 gold. So it's not too bad. Even If you're not a dungeon diver you can still make tons of money other ways too later on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356745
Archers are fine, it's just that bows as weapons are hard to work around compared to other range options. Thrown weapons have the easiest access to a living weapon, guns have the largest variety in uniques as well as range options, leaving bows without much of their own niche.

>>15356854
Kill cats, lose karma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357006
>Kill cats, lose karma.

Are you fucking serious.

I'm sucking dick in the roguetown and wanted dead or alive because I killed a bunch of fucking cats

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357021
Well it depends on what mode you're playing, but yeah you can lose karma if you around slaughtering everything indiscriminately in that place. Cacy summons more cats as well iirc, so that could add to the "cats you don't kill" list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357041
But the shitbag asked me to kill the cats in his house. Fucking catloving piece of shit government.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357021
Cats are held in very high regards in Elona and I guess it's a social taboo to kill one. Possibly because one of the gods fashions herself to be one and is the patron of cats and catgirls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357021
Just wait a little before you become really strong then kill them all. All of them who's trying to stop you.

I will do it too. Don't let those subhumans to judge you with their ugly moral standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357050
Look on the bright side, now you can freely nuke every city for fun.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the least painful way to play a martial artist? I've tried a few predator starts but I can't even kill putits that well. Pls help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357053
Noa is a cat.
Ano is a dog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357206
It can't be helped. This is exactly how martial arts work. Just overcome all the hard training.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357211
Always had that sneaking suspicion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357206
Don't start until you get enough small medals for the early tonfa and then go back if you're seriously stuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357206
You're going to have trouble killing anything until you level Tactics/MA enough. Dump your platinums and skill points into them, get some gear that boosts those skills, and keep at it until you start unlocking MA skills. Eventually you'll get MA skills that do great damage and utility that will make up your overall lack of damage.
Also get casting ASAP, buffs and heals will help immensely.
The Jiu-jitsu feat might help, but I barely use it. It apparently does more damage to high evasion enemies or something, but at my level I haven't had much need of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357560
Did you end up stacking arms or are you not at that point yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357565
Like multiple hand slots? I'm probably going to avoid that as I want to keep my character human as possible for RP purposes.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to drag objects or something? This fucking bomb ways 120s and my max is 50

[Anonymous No.]

>Lulwy raise her followers perception but not their dexterity
does she secretly wants us to use guns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357692
No real reason not to use guns as a range option if magic doesn't cut it for you regardless of what god you go. The "options" that throwing and bows have are piss poor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15354225
Karma management can be fun. doing quests and returning lost purses or facing faith and spending some time in jail, those are also viable ways to negate killing pets.

i don't remember last time i played no future, but in normal elona cats are enemies and get auto attacked by pets only in hunting quests, and in normal dungeons they are just natural npcs. is it different in no future?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357687
Pick up, walk until you're about to die, drop, rest, pick up, walk until you're about to die, etc. No one said it would be easy, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357728
But I cant walk

[Anonymous No.]

>>15355965
did you pick it up or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357741
He's probably so overweight that he literally can't take a step, it happens. He just needs to train his weight lifting a bit more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357730
Drop all your other stuff.

What's the worst that could happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356009
1. carpentry + rods (+ living mana battery.)
2. use other offensive spells
3. book delivery quests. hue hue.
4. investing can be counter productive, as high sell more books but of higher quality spells.
5. if you really want to preserve spell stock, casting divine wisdom will make most spells more effective, thuse you will use them less
6. train memorization - you know how to train right? use silver to raise potential to 380~ than use points to actually increase the stats... well that just my own way of doing it.

...or you can ust join the mage guild, unless you have your eye on one of the other guilds for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356924
so what? even in normal mode you need to pay your taxes.

>>15356670
in your log you see a massage every time you get karma panelty (i think the bottun is '/') so you can check yourself. also check the wiki for karma management.

other ways you can lose karma include opening found purses and cases or looting corpses of adventurers instead of burying them. also eating cats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15356854
dying doesn't give you karma panelty.
eating cats does. and in no future, killing them as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357006
>>15357021
killing cats make you lose karma only in hardmode. its eating cats that is taboo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357799
>>15357792
>>15357785

I think I figured it out.

It was about 10 months of unpaid taxes

[Anonymous No.]

Why won't this little girl shoot the gun I gave her

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357687
Train Weight Lifting, get gear that boost STR, or use Hero potions.
Give your heavy crap to your pets to carry around, they don't lose items if they get killed. Worshiping Opatos will give you a pet that can easily carry 200s of stuff around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357815
Most little girl type pets default to the melee AI set, they will hardly ever use ranged weapons. You can change their AI patterns after you finish the first continent, or use Elona Custom to set a custom AI pattern for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357206
Use claws
if you want full monk, go for lighter armor, but use spells like divine shield and hero before delving into the fray
raise 'healing'. seriously raise it. be macho!
you should probably take kurimuri as a god, as stamine will let use more special actions.

>>15357687
>max is 50
thats very low. get yourself weight lifting.

>>15357711
i stole panties early game. gave it to my cat when i choose lulwy (there was an altar for her in the first level of lesimas). took a gun later cause i found ammo with time stop.

>>15357754
The comment you replied to didn't reply to the comment you think it repllied to.

>>15357815
>>15357832
or just get a iary for of the ranged girls. i think older sister is ranged AI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357861
>i stole panties early game
If you're going to go the effort why not just get Shena's? Those are probably the easiest to get before upgrading to Living Panties. And even then the Winchester is arguably a better mainstay option. Panties work alright later on when you can make living ones pretty easy as compared to living bows and living guns but I've never really found them worth the effort to steal early on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357687
Use 4th dimensional pocket spell. alt, use 4th dimensional mirror that you can buy at the thief guild. alt, give up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357965
is there an easy way to notice a living weapon, like extra price or something? i will notice if an equipment sells for a lot, but i have never found a living weapon n all my time in elona, which is really, alot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358113
derp, too heavy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358128
Use function, living weapons always have a use like living force weapons. Crafting can yield living weapons, hence why living spears are so easy to find. Living lightsabers and panties are a bit harder, but generally crafting is far more reliable to find living weapons than hunting for them in the wild.

Really only eternal force weapons are harder to find. Of course, by no means should you think that they drop like candy, even crafting them it generally takes a massive amount of crafts to hit a living weapon, but the rate is far higher since the concentration is higher.

Let's put it this way, It is very normal to go through the entire game and hit the early level 1k range without ever finding a single living weapon. Especially if you don't save scum. If you're constantly crafting though, you'll very likely find one before level 500 or so. If you're save scumming crafting, it's basically guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358181
To kinda add on to this, when I was testing the effects of luck on chest drops in Vesda cave back in the day, I'd generally blast Vesda, hit up all the chests, press t to check for any living weapons, then delete the items before resetting the floor. Takes like a second to check.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358181
>>15358190
at what level do black markets start selling living weapons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358181
thanks for the 't' hint. ill remember that before selling off any weapons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358128
Not really. You need to identify any weapon that is miracle or higher. Once that's done a quick examination should indicate whether the weapon is alive or not. An entry saying that it's alive along with level and exp will show up on the weapon. Pic provided is a living staff I never got around to leveling. Might make it into a literal resist stick. Think I got this particular living weapon from the safe in my shop. So all the weapons you identify and find are junk should be sold at the shop in hopes that NPCs will trade an actual good weapon or living weapon for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358215
Forgot pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358209
No fucking clue, I've only ever gotten 1 living weapon from a black market in kapul and she was already around 150 by the time I was there, so I'd presume around 100 or so. Honestly, as long as miracle quality items start showing up you should be able to see living weapons show up. The issue is getting them to actually show up in a vendor that has such a limited stock. It's even worse since at least dungeon trawling is faster.

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>>15358215
Don't actually need to identify. If you don't identify, they show up on the use menu as pic shows. You can confirm that it's not an eternal force by actually pressing on it, where the weapon will then say "this weapon needs more blood" rather than the eternal force confirmation.

FYI it took about 500 panties to make this just now. So yeah even crafting rates can be a pos, but it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358181
Looks like I, >>15358215,
missed your post by a couple of seconds. I didn't know about that trick as well. I'll keep this in mind in the future. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358312
>living panties.png
i wonder when elona will let you equip panties in the belt area.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358377
Silly anon panties are for throwing and removing from Shena's ass so you can bounce quarters off of her. nevermind that she doesn't wear them in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358396
She would wear them but nobles keep hiring thieves to steal them. Poor girl probably doesn't have enough money to keep buying underwear so she has to go commando. Which is why I go on a Noble Massacre every party event I can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358377
>belt area
Plebeian.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does anyone cast spells when magic device seems a lot more reliable when you get some levels in it and carpentry? Rod of lightning bolt is available at carpentry 17 for pretty easy to find materials.

At magic device 16 you can draw/fill charges which essentially makes your spell stocks effectively limitless depending on how much autism preparation you do. Quick use allows you to kill basically everything with ease. Why aren't powergamers abusing this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358669
materials are a hassle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15357560
It should be noted that Body Blow, which you get at MA lvl20, absolutely wrecks casters. It causes Dim, which prevents proper casting. Zeome can easily be locked into a pukefest while your allies chip away at his health for an easy kill.

[Anonymous No.]

As a level 11 what do you do when you get aroudn level 300~? Right now I got puppy cave and a lot of beginner dungeons, but I'd imagine that starts wearing really thin at those levels and was just curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358669
I'm a gunner, wizard, and magic device user(1575 skill level). There's a couple of reasons why I wouldn't give up casting completely in favor of magic device. First and foremost, there are spells that there are no rods for. Second, unless a meteor rod comes out, casting trumps magic device in damage every time. Third, the draw/fill rate is absolutely horrible which makes using dupli actually very attractive to me however dupli decreases rod damage.

While I only need about 500 more points to cap magic device my spells on the otherhand, are only at the lv 700 range to 1150 range. Still plenty of room for my spells to grow in power in comparison to magic device considering the spell lv cap is 2000 as well? Even now my spells put out decent damage. My meteor spell at level 833 puts out more damage than my lightning rod even with quick use on. I actually can count on having meteor for use due to how long I've been farming wonder scrolls.

Don't get me wrong though, magic device still does great damage all things considered. Also, there's a very important reason why I picked up magic device. That reason being the fact that there will be circumstances where you will wish you could still use spells but can't through casting. I deal with a lot of enemies that can cause insanity, dim, and confuse. Casting with any of those on you is a very dangerous thing to do.

That's where magic device comes in as I can use rods through all those status ailments. I can also use rods if I ever run out of MP. As long as my rod charges hold out or my stamina holds out rods are a nice option for me. If all else fails I always have my gun.

I think magic device compliments casting very well and I see them as beneficial to each other. Either through the above stated things or even using rods to restore MP or even to get rid of hexes when you can't cast. Maybe I'm biased because my character is a Eulderna though. I did start out with both skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15358958
Dungeon levels that show up on the map increase as you do higher and higher level dungeons. So there's that. There's also the void. Enemies there actually scale in power the deeper you go. Lastly, you get an item later that "awakens" dungeons. You know how tough/durable dungeon bosses can be? Imagine every enemy in a dungeon like that. Also, a funny thing to me at least, is the fact that enemies in awakened dungeons don't wait for you to come to them. No, instead they come to you! Literally upon entering the floor all the enemies on that floor are making a bee line to greet you. Then there's the actual floor hazards and I don't mean those tile pit traps either. At any rate, plenty of fun for even the most experienced adventurer if you consider scaling dungeon levels, void, and awakened dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359047
>all the enemies on that floor are making a bee line to greet you
fuck
i hate this time to prepare
fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359050
I should make mention though that said item that awakens dungeons is a permanent item you are in full control of. You get to choose whether to awaken a dungeon or not. However, if you do awaken a dungeon there is a special artifact fusion item reward that can drop. These items can increase attributes and other things. The drop chance for said items increase the higher the dungeon level is when you awaken it.

But yeah if you do want to do awaken dungeons consider the dangers and if you're ready to take them on.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to keep the good mutations and get rid of the bad ones?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359386
blessed potions of cure mutation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359399
Do those keep the nice one like cat eyes (Per+5)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359414
they just generally go for the bad ones before curing the benefical ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359443
Just checked, they're normal mutations, not Ether mutations. So I need a potion of cure mutation

Where do I get those?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359465
ether mutations are 'curroption', blessed potions that heal those heal both the obviously bad and the might be usefull ones.

magic vendors are a good place to search, but you need to invest some before they start to appear (i suggest investing 50 at once). even than, they will probably appear as normal instead of blessed. you do have blessed waters stashed someplace right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359465
They pop up even in lvl 10 magic shops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359465
Same way you get any other potion:

Mix empty bottles with well water and hope RNJesus smiles upon you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359654
>not drinking for wish

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359660
It's too difficult to get a fountain wish with my wish counter being so high. I'd rather not waste my time with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359731
what did you wish for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359735
After getting all the obvious ones out of the way, I've been wishing for scrolls of gain attribute.

[Anonymous No.]

What is a reliable way to train a pet's control magic? My pet keeps hitting me with shining wave that it nearly kills me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359941
>obvious ones
besides happy bed and seven league boots, what eelse is there? can we wish for living weapons or evolution hearts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359995

if they are ranged or you have an "invokes *aoe spell* weapon give them that and stay in the effect, it should raise faster and not hurt as much

[Anonymous No.]

>>15359995
im not to sure but...
1. simply using any kind of aoe spell trains it. with times your pet will stop hitting you.
2. give gems and the pet will train itself.
3. gene engineering with something that has control magic.
4. doujo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360028

miromi - gives you a secret experience of kumiromi that gives you an extra feat, you can one for every ten levels you have

[Anonymous No.]

>>15349051
>then initial speed doesn't matter
Well... you know.. a little girl with 100 speed needs 95 blessed hermes potions, while xeren tank with 400 only 80 to reach 2000.
15 potions difference is 900 small medals.
I think initial speed matters. Or did I miss something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360028
No you cannot get living weapons or evo hearts.

Miromi, bbq set if you can't find one in stores, vindale cloak for early game when you can't reliably get cure corruptions, speed/aurora ring, 隠しキャラ in Japanese language (and with the related quest completed) for hidden characters if you so wish.

On another note I recall a few patches back that kakushichara wish was added to English version as well? Haven't tried it myself since I already made the wish before, can anyone confirm? What's the keyword to wish for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360407
>bbq set
can't i just party time, kill anything around and pickpocket it?

what the hell is 隠しキャラ?

[Anonymous No.]

Btw, I have blessed rod of wish with 1 charge. I don't want to waste it, so, how high must be my Magic Device skill to use it with 100% chance of success?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360420
just use it. if you just leaving everything for later youll just be swamped with items.
Be gutsy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360435
Nonono, I don't want to loose it, it's so valuable! And what should I wish... I guess another speed ring... I already got bbq, and luckily, I got happy bed from ghost (or fairy, I don't remember).

[Anonymous No.]

>lost all my monster balls

Welp.

Time to restart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360511
you can buy monster balls at south tyris
as well as make them with pot of fusion
or just buy rod of dominations, easier than balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360518
I want a gene machine man

And I'm not gonna beat the whole game so I can gene engineer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360412
It's a wish you make to obtain one of four secret characters as a pet, after completing the Struggle against Insanity quest in South Tyris.

Possible characters to get from this wish after completing the quest are M girl, H sister, White young lady, and Lazy older sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360548
>H sister
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360614
It's an npc with similar sprite as younger sister (except with long hair down, no twin tails). She refers to the player by name (like the Younger Sister) and has lewd flavour text (that isn't translated so won't show up in the English version, unless that's changed recently).
As a pet, she has the Swarm special action but is otherwise identical to Younger Sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360614
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Insane_book

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360247
You missed speed from AP. All pets, before hermes blood, cap speed at 800 from AP.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Mutant fun to play? How easy is it to get/savescum a good body type?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15360991
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:10797

You should really try to get those extra body parts if you want to become superhuman. Also have a fast pet available for riding.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to check a pet's stats and skills? Particularly to know how to best equip them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15362568
The informer NPC in town. Usually in the same building where the trainer NPC is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15362610
Ooooooh so that's what he does. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember to check those goods vendors for goodies, people.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know why I can't get my pet? It just says that my party is full and do I want to decline it. Party members at town don't take up a space d-do they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15363030
They do. To free up space leave your pet at the dojo.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Doujou

If you've already killed Zeome and are now in South Tyris you can do the chain line to make the discarded ranch deed available for sale. You can leave your pets at said ranch as well to make space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15363069
Thanks man

[Anonymous No.]

>>15363074
Why did some of my equipment get a "-1" to their name?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15363341
They've been melted by acid, reducing their damage/defense. Take them to a blacksmith and have them reinforced back to +0, or further if you have the money.
You can prevent this from happening if your gear is made of Acidproof materials, or if you mix it with an acidproof liquid.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a point to using Moon Gates? I've only found houses with stuff I can't use or take, and one den of monsters waiting to butfuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15363605
Some of them have custom NPCs or pets you can use a summoning stone to add to your Elona world (so you can later recruit them as pets).

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>>15363605

you might find the door house that will let you power level lockpicking, there was also the wish house that had npcs which spammed the wish spell, but that one no longer works with the constant wish nerfs

[Anonymous No.]

>old humanity are elea
what
core humans are elves now?

>>15363030
raise charisma. you can take 1 pet per 5 charisma, to a minimum of 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Protip: You can see what buffs your pets have if you target them with the * key. This is especially helpful if you have the Cheer command and need to see when you have to refresh their buffs.

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>>15363779
It's strongly implied in the subtext and lore dialogue that the distinction between Elea and humanity isn't actually as black and white as it seems, and that there's been a massive amount of genetic disruption occurring since the Gods first started fucking around with stuff.

If the world map is correct, and this is a large if, then with the majority of Elea separated by an ocean and isolated by the forest, it doesn't escape the realm of possibility that the Elea are perhaps merely a highly evolved branch of the base "old humanity" following a continuous and highly concentrated exposure to the ether particles.

Consider also that stable mutants, be it from ether "sickness" or experimentation, do exist in the world, and further "evolution" is being undertaken by certain countries.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good God pet to get? I already have Defender and Golden Knight but plan on dumping Knight for a better pet in my party.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15364341
Some people swear by the Cute Fairy for her seed making capability, which is very useful to get early on even if you don't have a farm. The black cat is a bit more dubious but is generally better than other cats, and her special ability isn't necessarily too bad.

The Exile is a good caster option if you have no casters to speak of, and even if you do, he holds his own rather well, considering what other options you tend to have when you can first get him. The Black Angel is a more firearms/bow oriented range option, but also good. I don't know how frequent she uses her speed support.

Generally people see the Android as being the most useless of the bunch, but with recent updates she's not entirely useless. Definitely nothing really stands out about her, especially with the nerfs that are going to land soon to armour bit, but still not totally useless. Go for whatever complements the rest of your team.

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>>15364414
Figures I'd forget Yacchan's Goose, but the Goose isn't "too bad". That being said, the Goose takes a lot of effort to make combat ready. Even under optimized conditions, she tends to flop pretty badly when used in combat early on. Her plat making skill is a bit circumstantial, and may not be as effective as the Cute Fairy's Seed making skill depending on your progression as well as your intended farming paths.

[Anonymous No.]

>pray to my god
>he gives me a jewel I use
>gives me +25% dice sides to elemental spells
>all the elemental spells are line, wall, or surrounds you
Thanks for nothing

[Thoughtless celestial !!Mw3JLMISabd No.]

>>15364908
learn control magic at the mage guild

[Anonymous No.]

>>15364414
She is pretty tough because of cArmour, but mostly useless, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

These goddamn thieves are raping my wallet
How do I stop them

[Anonymous No.]

>>15366061
get a 'it protects you from theifs' equipment. you should get a ring which does so as reward for clearing the 3 dungoens to unlock more floors at lesimas during the main quest.
1.prepare return and escape spell/ scrolls
2. go down lesimas till you cant go down no more
3. 'escape', visit palmia and chat with the royalty
4. 'return' to the bottom of lesimas
5. go down till you can't anymore
6. 'escape', visit palmia, talk with important npcs
7. after your journal updates, go for the 3 dungoens.
8. after you do the boses in all of them, return to palmia.
9. the scholar should give you the ring.

i got theif protection earlier from treasure map myself :P

[Anonymous No.]

So to curry favor with a god one must offer shit at their altar. Does that mean I have to make that trip to north of Palmia every time?

[Anonymous No.]

>Lost my monster balls again

Oh god fucking kill me.
I'll never be a fucking Gene engineer. Fucking retarded single source bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15366281
there are more alters to be found:
1. at the cyberdome near vernis
2. at palmia itself, near the northern exit
3. the truce ground, north of palmia
4. gravyard across the bridge from lumiest
5. noyel's church

also there are alters at some dungeons but they are too heavy to carry.
i think there was altar at one of the guilds but i don't remeber which.

>>15366300
1.take all balls back home
2. take one ball with you.
3. capture something
4. give to scientist
5. go back home and take another ball

...i think you can also have you pets carry them for you... but im not sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15366300
You can make low lvl balls in pot of fussion...

[Anonymous No.]

>>15366300
you can wish for gene machine. start quaffing fountains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15366281
The easiest way to do it is to do a challenge job board mission in Palmia, since that creates a unaffiliated one so you can use it for whichever god you want. That does require 50k fame I think, but that's not too hard to get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367037
Why not just use the one in Palmia and convert it whenever you convert a god? It's unaffiliated to start with. Similarly the one in the graveyard outside Lumiest is unaffiliated (hence why the reload exploit used there often is paired up with raising up an initial God's levels as well)

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367043
No real reason, I just prefer to keep the town one intact.
Also is there any point in making an altar more lightweight so you can keep it in your inventory? Considering it's not really difficult to find one it seems a bit wasteful since scrolls of flying are very common.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15365880
The main issue besides the upcoming nerf which will hit her, is that she lacks any appreciable form of killing. Casters will out kill her at the same speed pretty much any time of the week, so she's left hunting for scraps. She has no range options to begin with, and ignoring E+ Custom, vanilla E+ doesn't give you any real AoE besides the Element Storm - except she sucks at casting.

The stats there look good on paper, but realistically any pet given enough pampering can reach those levels, even more if you intensely micromanage them to control their leveling. Your gear also looks a bit on the low side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367069
No real point in getting an altar besides for the sake of getting one. If your house is anywhere particularly close to a city, say Palmia, then for the most part the added benefit of convenience isn't that much.

Better to use scrolls of flying on the king's bed or a barbecue set or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15364908
Get used to those line or AOE spells. They are far stronger than your magic dart. Especially the AOE ones.

[Anonymous No.]

Where do you guys set up your house, anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367142
Near a town that can't be easily accessed by return. Palmia, Lumiest are popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367142
I put my house near Palmia because Palmia is sort of in the middle of the map. If I cast return on my home I can get to other towns in roughly similar or short time.

Honestly, you can put your house anywhere you like. Especially since you can get that tax box from Miral and Garok's workshop and set it up at your home. You can pay your taxes with that box.

All I recommend though is that wherever you plant your home that you have a lot of space for expansion. Well, if you plan on doing a lot of farming, setting up storage units, a discarded ranch, shop, museum, etc anyhow. You want them to be somewhat in walking distance from your house.

My farms stretch almost all the way to Vernis which grow herbs to feed my character Kai and his pets. I'm reminded of a trick I remember reading awhile ago. While I didn't do it for this trick, I do remember that some people in the past used to set up property along the road like I did connecting it in a way for cargo runs. The reason why they did this was because as long as you were on a property tile these cargo runners wouldn't be assaulted by random encounters and bandits. Wonder if that's still works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367142
Palmia has the "advantage" of being part of the center hub for Act 3, so combined with a king's bed (if you're not up to stealing it), the embassy (for early tax if you don't want to buy the tax box) and the truce grounds being relatively close, it's generally where I set up shop.

Lumiest is good for magic guild and such, but I don't mind warping to Larna and walking backwards that way, so I don't always set up shop there.

Derphy isn't bad if you're playing a no karma build and walking into towns is death.

>>15367321
Still works fine. As long as you stay on property tiles random encounters don't happen. Cheaper to do with storage houses, but there comes a point when bandits are just free cash. Especially for someone like you lol.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just me or are lockpicks very hard to come by

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367749
They can be. If you join the thieves guild they have a special NPC that can sell you them. Later on lockpicks last for a very long time if you have enough skill level.

[Anonymous No.]

So I just got my first living weapon
Is there no way to stop the blood sucking skill?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367929
Don't level it up past a certain point where it starts sucking blood?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15368074
>don't level it up
Oh I thought it was automatic nevermind I'm a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>15368084
It only hits on level 1１, and even then, there are ways to hit 12 or　13 without tripping off the effect, though it's not quite as effective anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

how hard is it to get the [hearts] to level up pets?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15368588
Hard in this case depends on how patient people are and or how lucky people are with RNG. You may be the person that has hearts shower on them to the point where they say, "Another one? Ok..." or you will be the person that screams, "Ehekatl! Why have you forsaken me!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367321
I'm just starting into farming, where can I snag a load of herb seeds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15368772
Truce Grounds has a bunch. Other than that you kinda just have to keep visiting Yowyn and do ALL the farming quests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15368772
My methods for securing a lot of herb seeds is something you build over time. I like to think the methods mirror the snowball effect as the initial stages won't yield amazing results but if you keep working at it the yields just keep getting more and more impressive. Pretty much have Kai and his pets completely on an herb diet.

Anyhow, one of the main methods I use to secure herb seeds is through Kumiromi statues. Once you've beaten Zeome/Act 1 you'll have access to South Tyris. One of the quests you can pick up in South Tyris rewards you with a Kumiromi statue. If you use said statue it can give you herb seeds. There is a cooldown of about 5 in game days. What I did was get multiple copies of the statue through the little sister quest given at the Cyber Dome. The idea is to get a ton of statues so that every 5 days you have a lot of herb seeds waiting for you.

To add to this method, one of the Kumiromi god rewards is a gemstone that restores withered plants. I would also grab multiple copies of this stone so you can make your herb seeds go farther.

My second method, which also takes awhile to set up as well, deals with getting the summon spirit spell to lv 300+. I think it was around this level but it's been awhile for me now since I'm around lv 1100 in summon spirit, that I was able to summon high level spirits into party time quests. Impress named NPCs and these high level spirits though love potions to net yourself tons of music tickets. Exchange music tickets to the NPC Stoke for herbs of your choosing. I can get about 1000 herbs in a short amount of time using this method.

Other methods that may help is doing harvest quests in Yowyn as those quests sometimes reward herb seeds or having the cute fairy pet from Kumiromi's god reward line produce herb seeds once in awhile.

No matter how you slice it. It is a grind and you really have to come to terms with it. For me, I took solace when I was farming little sisters that I needed to do these dungeons anyways because I wanted the dungeon boss medal drops to fund Hermes potions for speed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15367037
no, the easiest way is to go to one of the 3 dungoens and pick up the unclaimed altar at the end.

>>15367142
in my previous game i set up mine near noyel and manually turned all grass tiles to snow. being close to the holy well and an altar really helps.
Now I'm near Palmia, for all my shopping needs; the black market i keep at home. Well my house is a bit into the forest, for roleplaying reasons.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you use elona custom? Just extract it in the elona+ folder?

[Anonymous No.]

What is Elona custom?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to play this game without a number pad? My old laptop doesn't have one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15368873
Realized my second method doesn't exactly deal with herb seeds but for what it's worth, deals with getting the actual herbs which is what matters in the end.

Currently working on creating a multi hand pet. Since oozes and similar creatures can extend multiple rape tentacles, it's pretty easy to imagine them as multi handed creatures. Think someone mentioned earlier that the body complication problem by going over 13 slots doesn't apply to pets.

I went to test this myself by making a backup of my save first and then going over the 13 normal slots. Noticed that the speed dropped for my pet. Specifically the first number before the parenthesis. Is there something special that needs to be done not to be afflicted by body complication? At any rate, restored my backup and I'm fine if it actually turns out that I can't go over 13 without bad things happening. On a side note, I hope that Ano eventually remodels our character sheet some day. I like our current character sheet but would like everything to actually fit onto the character sheet. I can't see all of my shoggoth's attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15369053
>>15369083

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/Elona_Custom

>>15369085
Yes. I actually just use the direction keys myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15369115
Thank you. The one in the pastebin was misleading.
>Changelog & Installation: http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:21733
All that link is the chanelog for 1.56

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get a monster girl harem in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

chat coming back when

[Anonymous No.]

>spam reading books
>pet drinks a fountain
>wish
>i just skip over it accidently
well fuck me

[Anonymous No.]

So I have Elona+ and Elona Custom. I'm in the process of downloading the Studio Ghibli music pack thing.
Anything else I should download to make the game better? Like what UI mod should I choose and stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>15369252
ui is fine, graphic packs such as sprites and portraits are fine too but you can add some custom characters if you want. I've never actually seen a ui mod personally



Fuck, on my new wizard, spend a bunch of time only doing quests for Vernis and build around it, in hopes I become king

Finally get 2000 the time is now, I will manage this place to its full extent the town will LOVE me!

unfinished feature lmao only got the bait in place