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Why do Magicians like Patchouli and Alice have small, petite bodies? Do they stop growing up after they become teenagers or something?

>> No.1527540

Because they don't put XP in Strength and Skill and only put them in Will.

>> No.1527551
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1527551

>Patchouli
>small, petite

>> No.1527557

>>1527540

You made me smile, you silly bastard.

>> No.1527558

According to Perfect Memento a magician stops growing once they become complete and learns the magic to abandon food.

>> No.1527560

It's the magic of love, baby.

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>> No.1527566

>>1527558
But they still drink tea.

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1527576

Speaking of which,
What's it like to kiss a magical girl?

>> No.1527583
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1527583

Many people in the Touhou universe are drawn with small, petite bodies, but it is mostly dependent on the artist.

>> No.1527591

>>1527576
Like salty coins and milk.

>> No.1527600

>>1527583
I refer to Tasofro's and Aki Eda's drawing as a gauge of their physical maturity. And from both it seems that Alice and Patch are just teenagers.

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>>1527576
I'd like to know.

>> No.1527604

>>1527591
Sort of like blood?

>> No.1527610

Does this mean that Marisa will be a perma-loli? ;_;

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>>1527600
That's just their art style, I feel. Anyways, I think Tasofro portrayed Alice and patchouli in a fairly mature manner compared to some of the other characters. Aki Eda is just all-around wonky when it comes to these sort of things. Of course it could just simply be Patchouli's droopy attire and eyes that make her look younger and petite than she really is. And we all know how much Aki Eda loves Alice/Patchouli and loves showing them is her ridiculous lesbian doujins.

I tend to view them fairly maturely in both body (not necessarily meaning healthy, just developed in comparison to a child) and mind.

>> No.1527632

>>1527591

I dropped salty coins in milk once, not sure if this anecdote actually goes anywhere.

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>>1527610
No.

>> No.1527639

>>1527632
Well, I suppose you could talk about what went through your mind and if you drank it or not, but to be honest, I'm not all to interested in your anecdote.

>> No.1527643
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1527643

MS Alice was really young. ZUN's loli art was actually correct for her in PCB. I think she can't be more than 12, considering that she likes rainbows, dolls, and has attitude problems, right?

>> No.1527654

>>1527643
I'll bet that canonically, Alice is very young. However, I still prefer my ideas that she looks and acts like someone in their 20s.

>> No.1527658

>>1527654
Grownup women do not play with dolls.

>> No.1527674

>>1527658
I always thought marionette-type magic was pretty neat. I also like the idea that she stays inside frequently, just studying and experimenting to perfect her magic and dolls to her liking.

>> No.1527675

>>1527658
Grownup men do not play with figs.

Also, why don't magicians share that no-food stuff? I hate food.

>> No.1527687

>>1527633
Wow who drew this image? Is there anymore adult versions of touhou characters?

>> No.1527707
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>>1527687
What constitutes "adult" for you? There's more than a few Touhou images where they're portrayed with more realistic, adult proportions.

>> No.1527710

Isn't Marisa supposed to be like 15-16?

It seems to me like the "loli" aspect of Touhou is frequently exaggerated.

>> No.1527713

>>1527707
Whoops, pic not related.

>> No.1527720

>>1527710

her age is never mentioned

>> No.1527727

>>1527675
Thats like saying why not teach a six year old linear algebra. Abandoning food is advanced stuff, unless of course, you just want to starve.

>> No.1527728

>>1527720
Yeah, but it can kinda be inferred.

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>>1527710

Ages in terms of physical appearances are almost never specified. You were probably thinking of this chart.

I like to think the majority of the Touhou cast are in the mid to late teens.

>> No.1527733

>>1527727
I would teach 6 year old children algebra. Hell, I'd have them reading at like 3. No offspring of mine is going to not be a prodigy.

>>1527707
I know her bow is long but that arrow just looks too big for some reason.

>> No.1527744

>>1527675

Ask /x/

>> No.1527755

>>1527728

Inferred from what, her body which looks the same as other characters that are thousands of years old?

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>>1527744
I guarantee that you will get a lot of philosophy and this image will be posted once or twice. If you're willing to dig deep enough into what is said, chances are you'll run into some magical system. For some reason, I doubt real magic(k) would interest /jp/.

>> No.1527808

>>1527773
401(k)

>> No.1527809

>>1527773
Only if real magic involves beam spam.

>> No.1527823

>>1527809
Marisa will never learn the no-food and eternal loli body spells, because she only cares about LONG GIRTHY BEAM SPELLS.

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>>1527823
And in a few years, all she'll care about is LONG GIRTHY DICKS.

>> No.1527840

>>1527809
...

Close enough.

>> No.1527841

>>1527836
Marisa's love of LONG GIRTHY BEAMS will never fade.

>> No.1527886

>>1527744
>>1527744

>> No.1527894

>>1527886
>>>/x/1059646

>> No.1527898

>>1527894
>It's to cater to the pedo faggots who like anime.

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>>1527733
While we at it we'll hothouse our daughters so that she can go to Oxford at the age of 12 too!

Pic related.

>> No.1527908

>Magic is powered by growth hormones.

>> No.1527911

>>1527904
I want to fuck girls who are good at both maths and in bed.

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>>1527911

Here, you can thank me later.

>> No.1527930

>>1527916
Close, but Yukari is the one who is good at maths.

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>>1527930
Ran is too.

>>She's extremely intelligent and is much better at math than any human.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Ran_Yakumo

>> No.1527942

ZUN goes out of his way to avoid mentioning specifics such as age. The primary purpose of this is probably both to make the Touhou universe relatively timeless (to avoid fans nitpicking all sorts of shit out of the time passed between games) and to allow for all sorts of perfectly valid interpretations.

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>>1527939
And while I'm at it, I was reading Yukari's.

>>She has no weaknesses, but fortunately seems to rarely attack humans.
WOW, WHAT A DAMN GOOD COINCIDENCE!

>> No.1527949
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1527949

I always figured most characters are around teenage to young adult in their form. It's not like it's easy to tell with ZUNs art anyway, the guy likes his loli danmaku games.

I remember we tried to create a list organising characters into the ages they appeared to be by consensus. It was a bit of a mess though some characters are definitely perceived as being older or younger.

Yukari and Yuyuko are pretty much always given older appearances in fan art. Cirno is always depicted as a child who will never grow up, quite fitting for a fairy.

Alice seems to be to be a young adult now. Sure, she was originally introduced as a child, but it seems most PC98 has been more or less ignored now with characters being re-introduced in the newer windows games. Patchy would be the same in my view; a youkai mage with a petite body that doesn't age any more. Marisa seems like she's probably in her late teens, Reimu should probably be the same age but seems older through the way she acts.

>> No.1527951

Also, Akyu keeping a record of timelines.

>> No.1527952

>>1527949

I'm not sure where I got this, but I think ZUN stated that Marisa is slightly less than Reimu both in terms of age and height.

>> No.1527954

Akyu is the only reliable source of information in the Touhou universe.

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>>1527823
>>1527836
>>1527841

>> No.1527957

its because they're computer generated figures created by a 40 year old ugly man....

>> No.1527966

>>1527954
There is no reliable source.

>> No.1527970

>>1527966

>> No.1527971
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Mari*Ali

>> No.1527996

>>1527942

I actually like that ZUN does this, along with the very vaguely defined fairy tale powers he gives many of them.

There is a lot of room to interpret how each girls powers actually work along with their limitations and doujins use this to know end and play with the setting. Gensokyo itself amuses me because it's meant to be a world of phantasms, a place where Yukari staged a invasion of THE MOON using it's reflection in a lake.

It's like a fairy tale land with odd problems like a red mist covering the land, the moon being replaced with a fake and a entire season being stolen. It sparks the imagination and has most definitely helped Touhou to become as popular as it is, fans see what they want and add to the experience.

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>>1527954

>Akyu is the only reliable source of information in the Touhou universe

>reliable source of information.

I'm seeing a problem with this sentence.

>> No.1528072

>Why do Magicians like Patchouli and Alice have small, petite bodies?

If you have fucking magic powers, there's no need for your physical body to develop beyond a pretty basic level. You don't need huge muscles to lift stuff or be really tall to reach things, you can just use magic.

It also makes them easier to hold down.

>> No.1528089

Smaller hitbox.

>> No.1528096

>>1527971
If I see Alice's AMERICA!! underwear one more time i'll...

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>>1528072
what do you say, silly human?

>> No.1528182

>>1527996

Indeed, it is a good thing; Touhou is popular because its explicitly open to a huge realm of possibilities. Unlike most fantasy worlds, it doesn't even have a single set of agreed-upon lore or even agreed upon magical laws. Despite having an enormous amount of canon material, it manages to avoid the traps of most fantasy worlds, where most of the interesting stuff is set in stone before fanon even gets to touch it.

Of course, this is all done by being intentionally vague about everything and having every single "in-universe" source being rather unreliable. It also helps that Touhou basically throws the kitchen sink at every fantasy concept: it has contained at some time basically every type of magic known to fiction, from hermetic to device magic, and more different fantasy creatures from different mythological backgrounds than Tolkien ever thought you could fit in one world.

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>>1527948
>She has no weaknesses, but fortunately seems to rarely attack humans.

gap youkai are ghost + dark.

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>>1528182

I especially like how ZUN takes whatever folklore that interested him lately and turns it's monsters into little girls. Furthermore, it amuses me that ZUN will drunkenly draw up some of the most retarded character designs around for these monsters and then the fan base will try their hard to make it look good, often succeeding. That said, some of his character design is rather good or at least looks damn good when drawn properly.

But yeah, Touhou has all kinds of awesome influences and the setting can just keep eating them up because it's basically a refuge for anything supernatural tired of a world losing faith in the mythical.

And moon rabbits. Only good for sex appeal.

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>>1528246

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK.

It makes sense though. In during Normal type Pokemon.

>> No.1528264

>>1528246

Psychic/Dark.

>> No.1528279

>Aya Shameimaru
Slut/Normal.

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>>1528264
wriggle kick your ass

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>>1528308

Fighting EX-Yukari on my 2nd run of the Elite 4 was such a huge pain. Retardedly high Defense and Special Defense through the roof.

Thank god for Komachi's attack that always halves an opponent's HP.

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1528362

Most artists forget Patchy's obligatory bookworm attributes, glasses and big tits.

>> No.1528372

>>1528362
If you count ZUN as artist.

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>>1528250
At least he got over his stupid bonnet fetish.

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>>1528388

He's temporarily abandoning them for Renko hats.

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>>1528250

I love me some Utsuho, but I always wonder just what he was drinking when he designed her.

>> No.1528443

>>1528415
He played too much Dawn of War recently. CHAOS CONSUMES US!! MUST.....OBLITERATE!!

>> No.1528475

>>1528443

Whatever, she's made of hot even if she did look a little doofy in the game... fanartists are awesome.

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>>1528415

Whatever he is on, I fucking want some of it.

>> No.1528892

>>1528388

FUCK YOU, BONNETS ARE AWESOME.

>> No.1528894

JAPAN SUCKS
JAPANESE PEOPLE ARE NOT WHITE/ARYAN RACE

UGLY PEOPLE!!1

>> No.1528902

It's best to assume that

1. A year passes much faster in Gensokyo

or

2. Each race tallies their age up differently.

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>>1528892
FUCK YEAH BONNETS!

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SUP DAWG, WE HEARD YOU LIKE BOWS SO WE MODIFIED YOUR BONNET TO HAVE A BOW AROUND IT. NOW YOU CAN LOOK CUTE WHILE LOOKING CUTE.

>> No.1529100

There needs to be a touhou character with a top-hat.

>> No.1529131

Renko Usami?

>> No.1529141

>>1529100
Ten bucks says that this man is going to get what he wants.

>> No.1529154
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>> No.1529161

>>1529154

You got my attention...

>> No.1529175
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>> No.1529186

>>1528939
Your mission, should you choose to accept it:
Brake into the SDM and steal Remilia's bonnet. There will be an ample reward. If you fail though, prepare to become Flandre food.

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>>1529131
Not tall enough.

>> No.1529206

>>1529186
>brake

>> No.1529223

>>1529186
>>1529206
Perhaps I should have said press the pedal as you slam your car into the mansion wall.

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>>1529206
Well, you don't want to drive all the way through the building.

Remi doesn't take kindly to that.

Or she might be impressed that you even have a car, and offer a trade.

>> No.1529548

>>1529154
Source?

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1529728

>offer a trade.

>Scarlet Devil

Yeah, good luck with that. While you are at it maybe you should kindly ask for a cup of tea from their helpful maid while you find your insurance details, they wouldn't want to look impolite now would they?

>> No.1530362

>>1529548

>> No.1530728

>>1529548

>> No.1530771

>>1529141
Cant bet if we all agree.

>> No.1532112

>>1529154
Source?

>> No.1532513
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>>1529186


Easier than a piece of human-flavored cake. Distract the vampire loli with tits, remove mobcap/silly hat.

Bingo.

>> No.1534173

bump

>> No.1534224

Tupac is a Touhou character.

>> No.1534228

>>1534224
gb2/dead/

>> No.1534462

>>1529100
Akius.

>> No.1534767

>>1532112

>> No.1535524

>>1532112

>> No.1535861

>>1532112

>> No.1537192

age

>> No.1537244

>>1534224
No I am the touhou character.

>> No.1537254

I want to move to Gensokyo when I hit 25 and then learn magic so that I can become an immortal.

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>>1527707

When the character is +/-5000 years old, technically the difference between loli form and adult form is a bit fluent...

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If you define "loli" not as looking childlike, but as looking a fraction of your actual age, that is...
After all, if you're thousands of years old you tend to look /x/-worthy. Although /x/ would most likely be dumbstruck at most of the things you see in Touhou...

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1537604

And yeah, I know just looking younger than your real age is not the common definition of loli.

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1537613

... and back on track.
At least in SWR, aren't Alice and Patchy actually pretty tall? Although Patchy's usually drawn as being pint-size, and her character portrait in EoSD makes her look a bit like... a gray dough.

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Marisa on the other hand is sort of tiny for her age. But she acts all the older, so she tends to be drawn like it.
Interestingly, she tends to be drawn smaller when alone, and taller while around Alice. Go figure.

>> No.1537641

>>1527658
Then there would be no doll makers.

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Come to think of it, which other mages are there in Gensokyo? My memory fails me...
Not counting familiars who make little girls gay.

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Not counting "time mages". Pad jokes aside, she's pretty big anyway.

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Not counting... hmm.
Well, guess using black magic makes you a sort of mage...

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1537676

There just aren't a lot of them.

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1537766

My patchy is a V& material and I do not care.

>> No.1538720

>>1529154
Source?

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>>1528939

>> No.1540179

>>1529154
Source?

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