/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Has anything memorable even happened in the last few years? Ever since stupid spam died down, I can't think of anything worth remembering that has happened. It's just ass and tits threads 24hours a day.

How can /jp/ become more lively, but without shitty spamming?

[Anonymous No.]

Post good content instead of complaining about the lack of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15268830
I'm asking what sort of good content should be posted. I honestly have no idea. Talking about any sort of Japanese game, doujin or not, will probably just get no replies or >>>/vg/. This gos for old /jp/ topics that aren't untranslated VNs too. Almost all other content is on a single general.

[Anonymous No.]

Unfortunately most subjects have been corralled into generals which attracts the worst people and the worst behavior- I don't consider them as part of /jp/ but rather an expanding tumor.
I don't know what to tell you other than to try and create the threads anyway.
The meido can be very capricious, however.

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>>15268880
Wow, you're saying people don't reply to topics they don't care about? Sounds like a fucking utopia to me.

Just make the fucking threads and people will come if they're interested. If they aren't interested then oh well.

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>>15268789
Start an interesting or funny thread anon

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>>15269174
>>15269180
About what though? I made this thread for the sake of brainstorming hot new ideas for /jp/, otherwise I would have just made a thread about whatever. I don't even know what sort of topics could fit here anymore.

Anyone think it's possible to revive non-vn erogame discussion on this board?

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>>15269205
/jp/ is borderline redundant

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>>15269205
Like for example, Custom Maid 3D 2. I sometimes see Touhou mods for it, so there's some interest, right?

[Anonymous No.]

I consider the quality of posts on /jp/ to be the highest on 4chan, and by that I mean if I want to have a chuckle I'm almost guaranteed to get one in any thread, if I ask a question that isn't Sauce? I will get a reasoned response, and if I just want some dank anime girl memes I can get them by the boatload. Maybe that's just me.

[Anonymous No.]

Threads about titties are the best threads though, on any board.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to verb a noun!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15269220
I think that could be a great thread as long as it doesn't turn into yet another general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15269205
A new themsong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84fOsLdqDAM

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>>15269361
How do you maintain a thread that covers several threads worth of discussion without it becoming a general?

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>>15269361
I didn't mean to post yet...
Anyway, slow and topical threads are the meat of a healthy board. Anons should post when they have an observation, joke, or otherwise something of merit to say.

>>15269367
New threads when someone has something to say instead of new threads created because the old one is gone.
Here is our newest general and you can see the quality freefall into social software discussion and blogging already:
>>15266331
This is a thread that shouldn't have been created.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/, let's collectively make a doujinshi and sell it at comiket

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>>15269406
Who would actually go to comiket?

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>>15268789

/jp/ has fallen into stagnation because of the lacklustre amount of new content and no fresh blood.

Her institutes are dated and rotten, relying on inertia of "them always being posted".

There's a great portion of irony with /jp/ and Touhou, in that /jp/ is effectively Gensokyo (without a Yukari) of 4chan. The board is wrapped in a barrier of obscurity, irrelevance and moderation. Protecting what little remains of "/jp/ heritage", as it slowly suffocates.

This is why Yukari lets incidents happen, to avoid Gensokyo from stagnation.

Is /jp/ surprised that people gather around and consolidate into generals where new content is regularly brought in, whilst the rest of the board is >>15269329 ?

/jp/ needs to change if it wants to bring back OC and avoid a slow, pathetic dead like all those other imageboards. This may mean becoming something different, in order for the /jp/ userbase to continue existing.

Mr. Meido tear down this wall and free the market!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15269395
Speaking of thread creation, are those dumb limits from the worst times of /jp/ still there? I think it was like 2 threads a day and several hours between thread creation.

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>>15269467
>Is /jp/ surprised that people gather around and consolidate into generals
Because it was the only safe haven from spam? Because it was the only way to make sure a thread didn't get bumped off by 6 pages of niggy?

No, i'm not surprised at all.

Shitposting created this, more shitposting isn't going to fix it.

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>>15269472
Should be 1 hour at most. Maybe 3?

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>>15269477

Exactly what I'm saying.

/jp/ must change if it wants to avoid the slow dead.

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>>15269453
I'm sure that there's some /jp/sies in Japan who would be willing to represent us.

[Anonymous No.]

The only solution is to go to gensokyo, truly.
>>15269467
I disagree. It's the fresh blood that arrived on 4chan which created generals on every board, including /jp/.
People arrive, but they don't take the time to learn the way of the natives.

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>>15269467
Mr. Meido regularly imports fresh produce from /v/!

[Anonymous No.]

You have to understand that /jp/ is no longer a board, but rather a host for chatrooms.

Now that most of the posters are confined to safe spaces every thread that brings something new and challenging will be forsaken.

I have tried to import new topics from futaba and japanese otaku in general and because the NSJ completely unaware of current culture they get deleted even if they concern /jp/. This has happened at least 15 times.

I say that General threads are the worst thing to have ever happened to 4chan. Posters no longer need to lurk and they become small communities were everyone knows each other, completely eradicating the point of an Anonymous imageboard.

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>>15269511
Meido actively protects JAV threads and monster girl threads, which belong on /s/ and /e/ respectively.
The biggest problem I see on 4chan now is allowing one board's content to overflow onto other, entirely unrelated boards. For counter-examples, taking /qst/ off of /tg/ helped both boards, and taking bicycles off of /n/ would help it, too.
inb4 this post is deleted and I get a ban for this post.

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>>15269467
I don't know. /f/ basically posts the same shit every couple hours since it was created and gets along fine. Although even /f/ is making an effort to produce new stuff every so often, even if that stuff is just loops.

The problem though, is that is all it really takes to make content for /f/. You can't really just make some webm and call it /jp/. I mean, unless you make a ">/jp/" or "/jp/ meetup" thread.

The question is "What is /jp/?" Fancomics are obviously one thing. the rika comics like in >>15250414 are pretty nifty and I suppose >>15269363 counts, even though I've always thought those theme songs were cancer made by people trying to force their idea of what /jp/ is like on /jp/.(like with that /jp/-tan character with the pigtails /v/ types draw. )

I wonder what a low bar for /jp/ content is that isn't just a useless spam shitpost is. If only /jp/ created stuff like those dinosaur touhous. Drawing and creation threads seem to work fairly well. Maybe something like "finish accessorizing this loli" or "draw the silliest hat you can on this girl's head" will work.

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>>15269406
/jp/ has never sold anything at Comiket as an entity, but individual /jp/ posters have sold things at (or contributed to things sold at) Comiket under their own labels.

>>15269467
An incident would be fun but I really don't think it's going to happen.

The default mindset of people in /jp/ is these days is to shut up, put your head down, and mind your own business. There's no sense of community anymore.

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>>15269472
The only time I've made repeated threads in the past couple years has been on [s4s]. [s4s] itself has taken over some of /jp/'s funposting schtick which is another problem I suppose. We don't need 80 threads of it but some free-spirited fun keeps things nice and easy.
>>15269511
I've had 2 (or was it 3?) bans from voicing my displeasure over that. If you look at the moved threads on an archive you'll see a wave of deleted /jp/sie posts and only one of them is ever me.

[Anonymous No.]

How much of /jp/ browses /c/? I'm curious.

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>>15269543
People have had fun with "color this 2hu" and "add dialogue to this comic" before.

I seem to dimly recall that we used to have a guy who would post a 2hu roll drawthread every month, but I think he stopped visiting /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

It wasn't just the spam. The removal of NEET threads and the exile of EOPs to other boards removed a significant portion of the /jp/'s population. Before you complain about the board being slow or dead, remember that this is the future you all chose.

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>>15269562
I actually like (some of) those threads more than most stuff in the stale Jug of Piss. The mods are doing you a favor.

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>>15269536
>>15269511
Pretty sure janitors don't have a say in the matter when a mod moves a thread.

I don't think /s/ allows discussion though? I don't know the hentai boards are kind of strange when it comes to that. "STOP TALKING AND JUST POST IMAGES WAAAA"

>>15269562
>I've had 2 (or was it 3?) bans from voicing my displeasure over that.
Have you considered not shitposting in objectively on-topic threads?

>>15269595
>The removal of NEET threads
Nothing of value.

>>15269543
>Drawing and creation threads seem to work fairly well. Maybe something like "finish accessorizing this loli" or "draw the silliest hat you can on this girl's head" will work.
Reminds me, I need to make one of those threads again. The last 3 I made went spectacularly but I don't want them to become too common or it loses its charm.

Everybody please remember to sage kuso meta threads, kudasai!

[Anonymous No.]

>>15269633
>kudasai!
Stop shitposting and go back to tumblr.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15269509

That maybe so.

However, that doesn't change that fresh blood is needed to sustain a board. I'm not advocating importing newfags by the board load, but users who do spend time lurking on the way of the natives.

>>15269543

No, you are right.

The question is, just what is /jp/ now?

However, what people are suggesting are attempts to treat the symptoms and not the problem.

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>>15269543
Nobody wants to contribute anything to /jp/ because /jp/ has standards so high that only genuine nipponese can satisfy them. Most things /jp/ could come up with are just going to get called shit for any number of technically valid but highly discouraging reasons.

Most communities that produce a lot of content are generally overflowing with enthusiasm and not afraid to crank a lot of mediocre and often downright bad content (and then pat each other on the back about how great it is.) /jp/ is too self-aware for that kind of thing. If it's shit they'll call it shit, if it's full of memes they'll call it pandering, if people are circlejerking they'll call them out on it.

The unfortunate result is that people don't feel comfortable participating in anything unless they're above a certain skill level - which would be great if meant that /jp/ was a foundry of quality content, but that doesn't actually happen. People just accept their eternal mediocrity or go elsewhere. One of the reasons threads like >>15269571 are popular because everyone can play, even people incapable of drawing a cube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15269648
arigato onii-chan kawaii desu yo!

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>>15269648
S-sugoi~!

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>>15269571
There's a thread about making 2hus with a pixel thing which is pretty cool by the way.
>>15256548

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>>15269595
This is the future I fought against, but now it's here and I have to live in it.

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>>15269536
>Meido actively protects JAV threads and monster girl threads
Complaining about moderation is against the rules, but if you look at deleted posts on warosu, monstergirl threads and, actually, idol threads tend to get an extreme amount of moderation for some reason. Even of stuff that doesn't really seem rule breaking. Stuff like "your favorite idol is a slut, my favorite is better" would get deleted it seems. I don't know about JAV threads, but the majority of deleted posts are from monstergirl threads and some popular idol threads like HP or Babymetal or AKB.

It is kind of weird.
Maybe /jp. just doesn't report posts as much as those threads do anymore. /jp/ used to report almost fucking everything.

That said, I don't think monstergirls as a concept are inherently not-/jp/. I mean that monster girl rpg thing was a definite /jp/ topic when it first came out, but I think the threads themselves are like the "Tewi's stinky ass!", "Sanae's armpit sweat!", "Old 2hu giant tits!", and "Patchouli's feet!" threads, in that they're just /d/ dumps. Honestly I think the monstergirl general belongs in >>>/trash/ with the other furry threads, but I still don't think the concept of monstergirls itself is inherently un-/jp/. It's sort of like any other sort of humanoid moe whatsits. If there was a more /jp/ culture derived/original monstergirl related threads, there wouldn't be as much of a problem I think. That is, threads that didn't start with trash like ">You will never __some stupid shit here___, why continue existing?"

>inb4 this post is deleted and I get a ban for this post.
I mean, it is technically rule breaking.

>The biggest problem I see on 4chan now is allowing one board's content to overflow onto other, entirely unrelated boards.
I think it's the opposite, rampant finger pointing and acting like each board is an independent website being raided by outsiders is the problem. People should keep board habits in their boards, but they shouldn't go acting like each person is allowed to only use one board ever and that everything should be sectioned off with absolutely no bleed over. I want to say making too many containment boards is a problem too. It's what caused /jp/ and it's what killed /jp/ when half its topics fit better in /vg/. But maybe that's the nature of image boards. Futaba has/had like two touhou boards. I think your problem though, is just fetish and porn threads not being contained on fetish and porn boards.

>>15269527
It's still shitposting even if it's Japanese.

>>15269566
I haven't really been to /c/ since the days when /c/ was sometimes referred to as "worksafe /l/"

>>15269562
I think a shitposting board is as necessary as a butthurt board (although /qa/ failed due to people actually listening to butthuts. /q/ seems a bit better for letting people vent their autism.)

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>>15269536
The best thing is that there already ARE regular JAV threads on both /gif/ and /hc/. Yet for some reason they also feel the need to post here

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>>15269656

On point.

Look at /tv/, /pol/ and /int/ -- they can produce utter garbage, but they are not afraid to keep throwing shit at the wall until something sticks.

And because of it, they've made serious traction into being the top most culturally influential boards.

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>>15269727
>being the top most culturally influential boards
Is projecting soft power really /jp/'s ultimate goal?

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>>15269604
>>15269633
>Have you considered not shitposting in objectively on-topic threads?
It's not the subject, it's the action of moving the /v/ threads here. Each board is a microcosm and its culture is built over time by its community. It can be a very fragile thing.

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>>15269708
>I think it's the opposite, rampant finger pointing and acting like each board is an independent website being raided by outsiders is the problem. People should keep board habits in their boards, but they shouldn't go acting like each person is allowed to only use one board ever and that everything should be sectioned off with absolutely no bleed over.

As much as people hate it, crossposters (that correctly integrate to that board) are a sign that, that the board is healthy.

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>>15269708
>Maybe /jp. just doesn't report posts as much as those threads do anymore. /jp/ used to report almost fucking everything.
One of the reasons that general threads survived the great shitposting wasteland era is because general threads are unkillable - even if an army of shitposters descends on your threads the thread will be back to normal the moment they leave, thanks to the sheer number of regulars. Said regulars also report posts aggressively, because they all have to share the same house.

An ordinary thread doesn't have this luxury; if it goes to shit people just abandon ship.

>>15269716
The "image boards" are in a weird place because everybody assumes they're for image dumping rather than discussion.

>>15269727
I was thinking more along the /tg/ lines (or other non-4chan weeb communities that are filled with low-skill individuals who still aren't afraid to contribute), but to be fair I don't know much about those boards except that a vague impression that they're terrible.

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>>15269756
>Is projecting soft power really /jp/'s ultimate goal?
That time has already passed.
Begin the operations.

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>>15269769
There are people that actively refuse to come to /jp/ for touhou because of the old stigma of "/jp/ is nothing but shitposting".
We'll never get rid of it.

That's why they make them on /v/, and then they get moved back here, they promptly leave, and we're stuck with a dead thread that WOULD fucking die if it weren't for people like >>15269562 that feel the need to keep posting in it and bumping it just for the sake of saying "I don't like this."

That, and that one faggot that bumps literally every fucking thread off page 10 with dumb nonsense.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have that Code Geass image where "moot" was asking how /jp/ was doing and it was filled with a bunch of shitposts? I know I have that image saved but I can't find it anywhere.

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>>15269727
>>15269756
Back when /jp/ actually did stuff, people would steal memes all the time and use them on other boards. A lot of /jp/ memes were /fit/ and /sp/ stuff too for some reason. I never did get why those types came to /jp so much.

was /jp/ the first place on 4chan that Finnish bear thing was forced on before it became a mocking-America bear?

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>>15269756

It isn't, but I was highlighting the point with examples.

>>15269774

/tg/ is a good example.

You'll find things written in paragraphs and not sentences.

But I think /tg/ is a special case, they are pretty much a catch-all for classical 'nerd/geek' culture and because of it, they have a higher typical user age then most of the other boards of their size.

But if /jp/ wishes to become more /tg/-esk, /jp/ has to expand the content that can be posted. Really, we need to have a discussion alongside the site staff on what /jp/ wants to become.

[Anonymous No.]

Whatever state we're in, opening and bumping mega threads isn't helping. More often than not these are filled with clueless idiots, and usually just a handful who keep arguing back and forth.

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>>15269827

Crossboard content sharing is vital for a board.

>>15257509

Now this reply chain is a good example of possible "modernised" /jp/ culture. There's pre-existing language and memes being referenced, but Touhou-ised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15269708
>If there was a more /jp/ culture derived/original monstergirl related threads, there wouldn't be as much of a problem I think
Well plenty of touhou characters fall under the umbrella of monstergirls and get threads. Yuugi's an oni, Ran's a kitsune, the Scarlets are vampires, Yoshika's a jiangshi, and Mamizou's a tanuki to name some. Granted, most of Touhou's designs tend to focus more on the "girl" aspect, but I don't see a real reason to draw divisions between a post saying they like Ran's tails and one saying they like some other random Kitsune's tails.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ is now to /a/ as /vg/ is to /v/

[Anonymous No.]

You know this board alone isn't "/jp/" right? There's /ota/, nen, sama, gnfos, himasugi, merorin, progrider, /what/, etc etc etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>15269774
>but to be fair I don't know much about those boards except that a vague impression that they're terrible.

Whilst the boards themselves are terrible, they also gain the "golden nugget" meaning that for every 20 shit threads, they have one thread with extremely high quality OC produced.

I could start posting examples, if the thread welcomes it.

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>>15269836
Basically any kind of Japanese media that isn't anime or manga can be discussed here. That's already an extremely broad category.

It's not so much that there aren't enough topics but that people are spread too thin between them. 4chan has hundreds of 40k players and thousands of MtG players. Threads about your gaming group are accessible to basically everyone; let's not even start on how /tg/ also moonlights as the fantasy, science fiction, and medieval history board.

On the other hand, if you've read an untranslated LN that isn't a top twenty, chances are there's all of five people on 4chan who has also read it, one of which might be online at the same time as you. That thread isn't going fucking anywhere.

>>15269827
/jp/ was the board that first imported both spurdos and >tfw guy to 4chan. Not exactly marks of honor, but part of the reason for it was that /jp/ crossed over with international chans (and in fact the entirety of the alternative chanverse) to a much higher degree than the rest of 4chan.

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>>15269918
As interesting as it might be it's probably not the best idea, we don't want to give anyone more excuses to nuke this thread than they already have.

>>15269891
As far as I can tell the MGG universe is one in which every monster girl spends all of their time thirsting for dick, and the thread is a fetish general. People don't always want to associate their favorite 2hu with that kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.]

There is no turning back in this path. The last chance for a dramatic change was Hiroyuki taking control. And he only wants to keep the status quo. Even if many of this ideas are right they will never be implemented.

/jp/ will continue to dilute slowly while the posters continue to age and move on. The internet keeps evolving to mimic the social roleplaying of real life instead of being an escape for misfits. Eventually Anons will not even bother to post here.
Exposed by posts begging for silence and death like >>15269871. They ask "Why post? Why argue? Why do anything?" without realizing that is the only reason for imageboards to exist.

/jp/ and such "otaku culture" won't be understood by the new generations that grew up in an internet where anime and videogames are liked by everyone. 4chan will fizzle. Instead outliers will make imageboards for body hacking and nanobot masturbation or something. That is my prediction.

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>>15269969
True, because most of the works that primarily focus on monstergirls tend to be lewd. That doesn't mean it'll infect the other threads.Someone could post abut their love of mamizou in a mamizou thread, then post in the monstergirl thread if they want to talk about lewder tanukis that aren't mamizou. That sort of thing is pretty common.

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>>15269787
>>15269757
They really should just be moved to /trash/, like what /trash/ was supposedly created for. Or put into that mod induced sage thing.

>>15269887
I don't really like how /v/ those memes seem. Modern /v is too much based on being hostile and finger pointing. I don't think the thread is bad though.

>Well plenty of touhou characters fall under the umbrella of monstergirls
No. stop that. You're like the "Bugs Bunny is a furry" people. Touhous are Touhous and monstergirls are monstergirls. Aya and a crow harpy are not the same kind of thing.

It's like the difference between a female robot, a female with robot parts, and a female wearing clothes themed after a robot. Monstergirls are like what KanColles are. Touhous are more like OS tans. Half girls-half monsters vs girls themed after youkai. (for that matter, youkai foxes and cats and tanuki and spiders turned into mostly normal looking humans anyway a lot, but touhous are a bit different as they tend to not just be youkai but are designed based on the concepts of youkai.(and other things) Monstergirls are just youkai.)

In fact, trying to absorb everything into their subculture for acceptance is one of the things that make monstergirl general inhabitants the modern furries. (other things are their persecution complex and inherent ties to a weird perverted sexual subculture. That is, monstergirls are primarily a sexual fetish derived interest.)

On a side note, I hate that at some point you aren't even going to be able to draw an elf or fairy without someone calling it a "monster"girl instead of just a generic fantasy being.

>>15269969
>which every ... girl spends all of their time thirsting for dick
>People don't always want to associate their favorite 2hu with that kind of thing.
That's kind of a laugh though. Almost every touhou thread is a fetish thread and before that was prominent, it was still "Sanae is a slut" and "wch 2hu fk?" Even that "lose to cocks" thing is inherently touhou associated. The sinsacks are basically meta youkai created out of those thoughts.

>>15269918
The weird thing is that /pol/ isn't anywhere near as bad as it seems from outside. I don't understand. People associate the hardcore tinfoil hatting racists with /pol/, but /pol/ itself is a mix of old /b/ and race themed porn dumps. Maybe the people people associate with /pol/ are really just from /int/ or actual members of whatever board who go to /pol/ for validation and infographics.

>>15269918
>>15269969
>As interesting as it might be it's probably not the best idea
This. This thread is already dangerously meta. I keep getting way off topic myself, but the point of the thread (I'm OP) is to help propagate ideas for /jp/ content, not a meta thread to whine about various existing things. I want to seriously help create a movement to inject /jp/ with even a little freshness. Whining won't help, and neither will pushing for the removal of what little content is here. Filling in the content-less gap will.

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>>15269827
>>15269948

Whilst spurdo was dropped by /jp/, /int/ and other international boards took it and continued its evolution.

This is what modern spurdo has become:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY

>>15270083

Whilst they seem /v/ like to you, they have their origins from the internal boards, much like spurdo.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread inspired me to think of a good thread to make to try and get some good stuff flowing.
I have a few ideas.
Usually it's just my crap threads that get attention, though, like that one with Reimu "news story" that turned into a thread of anons writing their own short news stories for 2hus.
I don't know how that thread took off but I enjoyed it. But, how do I do that on purpose? What makes a /jp/sie get off his butt and get the creative juices flowing?

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>>15270118
*from the international boards

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>>15269948
>Basically any kind of Japanese media that isn't anime or manga can be discussed here. That's already an extremely broad category.
It is, but it's too broad. Are Japanese news, random Japanese talkshows, Japanese meals, Japanese popular music, Japanese festivals, Japanese girl photos, and Japanese board games all /jp/? /jp/, despite the people who want it to be "Japanese Culture", a spinoff of /a/ and /v/ for all the stuff related to anime, manga, and otaku-oriented Japanese games that isn't specifically anime, manga, or games. Going away from those, while not bad in moderation, defeats the point of the board.

It's no good if /jp gets filled up with people just talking about Japan itself.

Going from that, why is it that Light Novel and voice actor discussion die or get shot down so readily on /jp/? I basically never see discussion on other types of merchandise either. Like you'll see rooms sometimes with posters and figs, maybe cars with decals on them, but it's rare to see something like mugs or stickers or keychain charms or something.

Like VAs, it seems like /jp/ would be a good place to discuss artists and art styles too. That thread about moege artstlye a few weeks ago was probably the only thing I've seen remotely like that that wasn't a "post your favorite doujinshi artist" type thread. Maybe someone could name the "big name" artists that mostly influenced the styles of anime/manga lots of decades are associated with.

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>>15270129
Low effort + visible results = more likely participation.

Remember the old dress up doll flash games? Super easy, everybody wants to show off their creation.

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>>15270232

They get sucked up by /a/.

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>>15270083
>but touhous are a bit different as they tend to not just be youkai but are designed based on the concepts of youkai.(and other things) Monstergirls are just youkai.)
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. If you can draw a girl with fox ears and multiple ears and call her a touhou, and then draw a girl with fox ears and multiple ears and call her a monstergirl, then are they mutually exclusive?

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>>15270232
>Going from that, why is it that Light Novel and voice actor discussion die or get shot down so readily on /jp/?
High barrier of entry.

Its not just /jp/, you'll have a hard time finding any english speaking community into LNs that isn't a one-post-a-week literal forum or rebbit

[Anonymous No.]

NIGGAS BE GOOD

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>>15270083

I don't know, for all the inherently tiredness of discussing the same thing over and over, there really aren't that many things to do differently.
/jp/ joins to make something? Meh, if they become too common, they lose their appeal. I liked the "color in kisume" thread, but if we had one per week, that would be just tiring. Maybe even less than once per month, with how long threads last around /jp/.

>>15270232
>Going from that, why is it that Light Novel and voice actor discussion die or get shot down so readily on /jp/?

Because most people on /jp/ can't read Japanese and VA discussion isn't really all that fruitful.

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>>15270257
*multiple tails, I meant.

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>>15270129
If you just post a complete idea, people can only review or comment on it.
I didn't see the thread, but it sounds like it was something that would get the ball rolling for people to either go along with it or make their own.

>>15270252
This. Simple, open ended, easy to participate.

[Anonymous No.]

I go on /jp/ because I can't think of any comfy general otaku communities on the level where at least some of the inhabitants speak Japanese

I wish we could talk about a wider range of topics though

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>>15270129
I remember that thread all too well!
I spent days thinking about a funny one and when I was finally happy with the story, the thread had 404, I then re-read it and thought it was stupid anyway.
But I think if it's easy to replicate and fun in itself then people will make more of it.

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>>15270375
I mean, I thought my story was stupid, not the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Modern /jp/ has no soul. I try to liven it up with bantz only to be thanked with a ban.

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>>15270320
This was the thread: >>/jp/thread/15033127

>>15270375
Take it easy, anon and don't be so hard on yourself.
Now it's your duty to make a new thread with your story so I can read it.

>>15270381
It was stupid though, at least my OP was.

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>>15270430
I'm sorry but I deleted it soon after the thread 404.

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>>15270482
I guess you need to write a new one then!
I'm not letting you off the hook.

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>>15270257
>If you can draw a girl with fox ears and multiple ears and call her a touhou, and then draw a girl with fox ears and multiple ears and call her a monstergirl, then are they mutually exclusive?

To put it concisely: A girl with fox ears and multiple tails is not a monstergirl.

To be long winded:
A catgirl isn't inherently a monstergirl. Nor is it a Touhou. You can put them in a monstergirl work and say they are a monstergirl, but a catgirl is just a catgirl.
An elf is just an elf, unless they become part of some work where elves are really succubi who want to take your mind away and make you fuck them forever and ever.
A moe girl is merely a moe girl until you call them a boy and insist that they are a trap.
I'd even go so far as to say that a sphinx or other inherently half-female monster isn't a monstergirl, but just a monster until they enter into a monstergirl work.
The point here, is that you can't just call everything a monstergirl.

There are specific traits that make someone a touhou(e.g. silly hats, frilly dresses, danmaku), and there's a specific context that makes something a monstergirl.
As for my previous post think http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3035907 vs http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3031415 in terms of Touhou vs Monstergirl. One is a girl designed after a monster, the other is a sexualized (or moefied) version of the monster.

As above, Scylla, for example, isn't anything but a horrible monster, but if you sexify her up, that's what makes her a monstergirl. If you give her a frilly dress, vague power, and a hat, while making her otherwise look like a normal human, than that's what makes her a touhou. If you just draw Scylla, it's just a Greek monster and isn't inherently a touhou or a monstergirl.

And as to why I mentioned traps back there:
>If you can draw a girl with fox ears and multiple tails and call her a female, and then draw a girl with fox ears and multiple tails and call her a male, then are they mutually exclusive?

The context in which they are used is important. Monstergirls are monstergirls. Touhous are Touhous, regardless of if they are based on monsters or humans. Setting them in those contexts is what makes them one or the other. If they're not in those contexts, they aren't inherently either. A slime girl for example, although you could argue they existed before monstergirls coalesced into a fandom, are still inherently a monstergirl because it's a moeification of a slime enemy, most probably in a sexual context. A kappa drawn to look like a girl with Nitori's outfit is a Touhou. A fairy could be either, depending on whether she shoots danmaku, captures sex slaves, or is just used as an onahole without relation to either.

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>>15270264
>>15270269
>>15269948
>>15270322
So then, should /jp/ make an effort to translate works?

>>15270430
Ah. That's pretty funny thread

>>15270482
What the hell are these pictures anyway?

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>>15270565
I don't know, they are really cute and I love them.

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>>15270565
>So then, should /jp/ make an effort to translate works?
That would still require the few who can read to care enough about EOPs.
If you take a peek inside the untranslated VN general, they're openly hostile to anybody who shows anybody below intermediate understanding of japanese, and make snide remarks about everybody else.

>What the hell are these pictures anyway?
Chinese artist that draws a lot of Mokou and tries to translate it to english himself.
He's like the Fujiwara Duwang.

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I can only look on with awe from my static IP, banned anon.

Alright, I have an idea for a thread that I'll probably post in the next few days. I think /jp/ is better/more willing to write stories than to draw images so I'm going to keep that in mind.
Brush up on your 2hu lore because someone is going to court (I'll let someone else decide in the eventual thread) and will need /jp/sies as lawyers, attorneys, and witnesses. I think it has potential to be a fun thread, but we'll see how it goes.
And this guy right here >>15270375
is going to help or I'm going to track him down. I'll probably make a crappy MS paint drawing of a judge to start it.



>>15270565
Chinese thing. It had its own thread here a few weeks ago. I wonder if it's spread to other boards yet?

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>>15268789
/jp/ now only exists to scavenge content from the Japanese. Content then in turn scavenged by other boards, tumblr and twitter.

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>>15270620
>I wonder if it's spread to other boards yet?
The common to /jp/ and /vg/ shitpostsers use them to shitpost in /vg/.

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>>15270565
Translating is hard, time consuming, not fun, and the results are generally subpar anyway. Only a select few autists could actually enjoy it, and if you look at how much eroge is being translated you'll see that it's a select few indeed. I've thought about doing it but I don't think I'm a good enough writer and I wouldn't want to fuck it up. Not sure about the LN scene, but I'm sure it's the same way.

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>>15270620
Okay, I'll be there and this time I'll be quicker!
>>15270627
Well that was fast.

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>>15270232
It's really weird to see the state 4chan has become in recent years. The whole reason /jp/ was created was to contain the non-anime/manga Japanese media away from /a/ - Touhou, type-moon, etc. But a lot of that would-be /jp/ stuff has all become accepted on /a/ again. Fate threads are /a/, LN threads are /a/, even VN threads are /a/. I even see the occasional voice actor thread on /a/. That being the case, how do you define what content belongs on /jp/ instead? The very things /jp/ was designed to contain have gone right back to becoming accepted on the board /jp/ split from, and as a result, /jp/ just ends up in the same tired loop of 2hu lewdposting and the handful of generals. The problem basically boils down to, where do we draw the line of what is and is not /jp/ content?

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>>15270666
The majority of other things that get posted are
>Translate this for me
>Hey i'm travelling to japan, where do I go to pick up hookers?
>Hey i'm travelling to japan, where do I find a job?
>Hey i'm travelling to japan, where do I find a yoshinoya?
>Hey check out this WACKY JAPANESE VIDEO XD
>Spoonfeed me
>Spoonfeed me
>Three page long american song lyrics with Chihaya image
>Spoonfeed me
>Flanfly
>(Miscellaneous blatant shitposting)

Luckily most of those get deleted.

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>>15270666
Well, the hate of /a/ for anything not anime and /v/'s hate of "weeaboo" games died down, and /vg/ was made. /jp/ hasn't had a point for years. It really was just a phase of touhou fans being annoying and /v/ and /a/ being particularly intolerant at the time.

Nothing really belongs on /jp/. They could just put a untranslated VN thread, a Gust thread, Touhou thread, and a Pokemon thread into /vg/ and close down /vp/ at the same time. Really, moot made a lot of mistakes before just making /vg/, which was all that was really needed.

I like /jp/'s existence, but it's really only useful for touhou nowadays. Even doujin games seem to not be being uploaded as much anymore. If the stuff lost to /vg/ can't be reclaimed, new stuff can be brought in from Japanese sites or something. Outside of touhou and gaymeme, it sort of feels like 4chan has lost touch with Japan.

>>15270703
>Spoonfeed me
This shit needs to die. It's as bad as "wayq?". I'm not saying you aren't talking about threads that belong in /wsr/, but this being unhelpful meme is the worst thing that's been running for the last few years in 4chan. And don't say it's been forever, it started with that "lel bible black" bullshit and has grown into people being intentionally unhelpful to feel elitist. At least old 4chan would just link you to a virus page or something if they didn't feel like helping.

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>>15270750
>This shit needs to die. It's as bad as "wayq?".
When its stupid questions that could be fixed by googling or even checking the catalog for a relevant thread that already has your answers in it, hard to reference it by anything other than "spoonfeed me".

Then again, isn't it this kind of attitude that lead to generals in the first place? It's a real fucking catch 22 here.

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>>15270528
I think we're running off two different ideas on what monstergirl means. IN my experience, it's a vague term. It's not like anybody sat down and made a concrete definition, but it's mostly used to refer to nonhuman characters that have strong and apparent qualities of both humans and nonhumans. This can cover anything from a succubus or a zombie or a lamia, because they all meet the criteria, but in different ways. So it's sort of like Loli or Christmas Cake, a shorthand for a character archetype.

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>>15270773
Monstergirls are shit related to kenku cross and those other pathetic worlds where they take monsters and make them into cute girls who want to fuck.I know you want everything to be a monstergirl, but a random catgirl or elf is not.

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>>15270773
>>15270816
>It's not like anybody sat down and made a concrete definition,
Also almost everything related to monstergirls stems from, or is a copy of, that monster girl encyclopedia thing.

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>>15270816
>>15270840
MGE isn't the only monstergirl thing, you sillies.

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>>15270872
Evangelion isn't the only giant robot anime.

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>>15270908
Yeah, that's sort of what what I was trying to say.

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>>15270925
You understand I'm saying it set a trend through which the other things are derivative, right?

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>>15271000
I was saying that it is a major player in the circle that it's in, but by no means the only choice.

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>>15271035
Nonetheless. it's not some vague thing like "demon" or "youkai". Hell even catgirl is less specific. No one plays FFXI/XIV and TERA for the "monstergirl" races.

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I think it's more a matter of monstergirl = the monster characteristics are the big focus. Like, centaurs, lamias, etc, the non-human parts are distinctly unavoidable and turn the girl's body into something borderline, if not outright, /d/ material. Whereas most touhous follow the 'catgirl' principle of just having at most animal ears/tails/horns/etc. They're accents on an otherwise 99% human girl, which is why catgirls are also generally not considered furry. Monstergirls aren't usually furry, either, because the humanoid part is usually pretty much a normal human-looking girl rather than having that sort of anthropomorphized face or anything, but they're also a lot more extreme than touhou girl designs. All three (touhou girl vs. monstergirl vs. furry) are kind of their own distinct things that just happen to have some overlapping elements.

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>>15271085
You explained it better then I have.

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I want to interrupt the retarded discussion you're having to mention that if anything "defines" giant robot anime it's Gundam.

That said, anyone who calls Tamamo-no-Mae (Caster) or, god forbid, the original mythological Tamamo-no-Mae a monstergirl based on the fact that she has fox ears and tails they're an utter fucking retard.

>>15270773
>So it's sort of like Loli or Christmas Cake, a shorthand for a character archetype.
When the archetype encompasses everything that is female and nonhuman it's not an archetype anymore.

I'm pretty sure this term was not in general use before MGE made it popular. And nobody in their right mind has ever referred to Remilia Scarlet as a "monster girl” because she's a vampire and a girl.

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It would be truly fitting if this thread, like /jp/, were to meet it's end buried beneath a pile of monster girls and autism.

>>15270565
There's also not that much point in /jp/ as a unit taking the effort to translate anything. In the early days /jp/ would actually coordinate VN translations but eventually all that went elsewhere, and it's not likely to come back because of the contempt that >>15270585 points out.

Even if I were to translate something today I'd probably do it independently and in an unaffiliated fashion; put the label /jp/ on it and people will expect you to produce a flawless literary masterpiece.

>>15270703
>Translate this for me
I think these are actually good for the board whenever they're something that is actually /jp/-related, it's like getting a free thread. Though I suppose more often than not it's pointless shit like messages from a girl or sword engravings on a good day.

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>>15271085
Design wise, sure, but it's such a niche thing that calling girls that aren't from monstergirl series or inspired by them is like calling dolls in general Rozen Maidens, and saying that Medicine and Shanghai are Rozen Maidens. It has a certain connotation. It's not like the things in Darkstalkers or Ragnarok online couldn't be categorized under them, but it's a matter of trying to force it over them, saying catgirls and succubi are monstergirls rather than some monstergirls are succubi and catgirls. Some dolls are Rozen Maidens but not all dolls are Rozen Maidens.

You're focusing too much on the visual aspect basically.

>>15271112
Eva doesn't define robot anime, it defines a niche of robot anime, just as monstergirls don't define non-human females, but a niche of non-human females.
There's Eva and there's things that were inspired by Eva. You could probably use Rei alone as an example. Being a blue haired girl or a quiet girl doesn't make you Rei. But there was a trend of robot anime like Eva and girls like Rei.

I don't know what the monstergirl version of Rei is so I can't make any further comparison, but a monstergirl would have to be not just "Rei-like" in appearance but in actions, in intention. Like Eva and Like Rei, the MGE set the trend and what is is undeniably inspired by with other works.

>>15271112
You pretty much got my point of view though.

I should stop derailing the thread too.

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>>15271186
>It would be truly fitting if this thread, like /jp/, were to meet it's end buried beneath a pile of monster girls and autism.
I once pointed out to /qa/ in a thread complaining about generals that the monster girl thread is able to reach 2k+ posts despite the bump limit being 310.
To those unfamiliar with /jp/ it an utterly unfathomable number- possibly the busiest general on one of the slowest boards. I bet it gets more activity in a day than non-general /jp/ in a month.

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>>15270750
There are definitely some things that could generate more discussion if they were properly allowed on /jp/ or more common. The most obvious is the return of translated VN discussion in general, it's already bad enough that all of that is relegated to /circlejerk/. Some things like more frequent LN threads could help.
With Touhou being far less popular than it was years ago and most other things that would be /jp/-related being shoved off to other boards, there really isn't much reason for this board to exist. It isn't even a proper "containment board" because the fanbase it attempts to contain is made up of probably less than 100 people at this point.
/vg/ was probably the greatest offender, I saw a huge drop in /jp/'s activity after that shithole was made, and /jp/ was basically never a fast or overly active board in the first place.

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>>15271243
>To those unfamiliar with /jp/ it an utterly unfathomable number

The AKB thread is nearly as much and the Kantai collection does get as much.

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>>15271294
I'm not sure Touhou is less popular, however we could use some hot new Japanese trends. Outside of Touhou, there's what, Vocaloid?

Granblue Fantasy seems like it'd be okay, though it'll probably try to confine itself in the mobile game thread instead of being seperate threads about it.

Are there any Japanese games that aren't that old gikopoi, mahjong, or mobilecrud that /jp/ can play together? Stuff like minecraft servers will probably still get deleted, so is there something Japanese that could be used? I mean small /jp/ community type thing, not just an MMORPG or a small scale competitive game.

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>>15271344
The minecraft threads were fine until autist drama and spam happened.

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>>15270565
I don't understand how there can be that many people who don't understand Japanese still left around

This board has been around so long now

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>>15271525
There are people here who can't even get the motivation to take a shower.

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The otaku room thread which turned into a discussion of otaku culture itself was of incredibly high quality. I think threads with discussion tend to be of higher quality, whether they be with or without images, as long as they're not generals.

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>>15271906
Any thread when posted enough is a general.

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>>15271936
I think you're being overly disingenuous with that one.
Generals are artificially maintained with small talk and blatant bumping and are recreated endlessly to maintain 100% uptime on every board they infect.

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>>15271344
Shogi and go, but no one will play.

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>>15271976
It's sad that fumo threads have less OC, less Alaska, more reposts, and have become generals.

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>>15271529
>/jp/

>>15272016
I mean online server based games where you interact with each other in groups larger than 1 on 1. MOG or MMOG but without the RPG.

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>>15271906
Really? because I remember it being filled with dumb newfags

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>>15272475
If that's all you were able to take away from that thread then I pity you, anon. It turned to shit near the end but there was a lot of great discussion contained therein.

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>>15272475
That thread had more and higher quality discussion than the rest of the board for a while

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>>15272454
Maybe a MUD would work well.
I don't know of any Japanese MUDs in English though. How about Northern Lights? It's a very good MUD, while simultaneously being almost dead: last time I was on, only five other people were online. If ten jay peas were on, it would be easy to cooperate or not cooperate, while knowing the other people are probably still jay peas.

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>>15269488
>they grab all the money
I'm quoting future.

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The jay is just a husk of it's former self, I don't even have the motivation to browse for more than an hour or two a week. It's just a crossie paradise now, with the occasional good, non general thread popping up ten times a year. The spam was the best thing to happen to /jp/ in years.

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>>15274598
MUDs would be great, but you're right about the language barrier.
This stuff is probably better coordinated on one of the offshoots there's been over the years, but I never jumped ship and I don't know if I ever will.

[Anonymous No.]

"Kill the jan," the people said
Dragged to the guillotine
He wept like a pussy fag
They'll need to make a page 15
To hold all these great new threads.

The blade fell, his pipe exposed
Looked on did old Niggy
Who filled his undies in delight
Jan sprayed blood; he spray shite.

Spake the Niggy:
Pussy jannies finish last as I fart turds and turdy sharts
Shitting straining every vein to fill the skies with choccy rain
Blood of nerds fuel my dark arts
You will never know my pain
Once I pry my arse apart
The Jay will never be the same

And ye who watch and even laugh
And make epic posts so brave
Which of you is man enough
To take a shit on Janny's grave?

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>>15268789

There are times like this when I was that I were a more skilled artist and/or writer, and by that, I mean having a resemblance of skill at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15276137
Just use that walfas thing or touhou sprites to make joke comics.

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>>15276268
Fashion is cylindrical, right? Do you think it can carry over to other things?
Will we be returning to the era of sprite comics?

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>>15276286
Hasn't that already happened, but with meme faces?

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>>15269361
Anything thread made where there is a large userbase of /jp/ that doesn't know about said topic is going to turn into a general. It literally cant be helped.

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>>15270620
>I wonder if it's spread to other boards yet?
I'm see them in /v/, /vg/ and rarely in /a/, /pol/ and others as a pic not related

>>15270666
you forgot that kancolle daily general and mostergirl general are still a thing, while touhou threads aren't that tolerated in /a/ (I guess) because historical reasons

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>>15276779
Sometimes I take a peek at /b/ to see if they're any closer to being funny again like they were 9 years ago, and I see random touhou images dumped in loli threads so carelessly. It makes me a little sad.

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>>15276794
go to /pol/. Look at it's catalog. It might not be true random but it has an old /b/ feel sometimes and you'll probably find a funny thread.

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>>15276872
It just seems like /b/ is split up between different hyper-filtered boards and all that's left is porn and edgy kids. Between /pol/, /s4s/, and /r9k/, the signal to noise ratio is too high for anybody to care about threads that would shone when they were all together. I guess that's just how it goes though, not that /b/ has ever been good or anything will "fix" it.

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>>15276927
It's split up because it became porn only. It's the problem with NSFW boards that don't have a topic.(e.g. /gif/, /r/) Maybe it's what moot feared would become of /a/ when he invented blue boards, even though it still seems dumb. It's why /jp/ can't be NSFW either. I'd be all doujinshi threads and JAV threads and random Jap girl threads.

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>>15268880
People on /jp/ don't like them, but because of this, people don't post them on /jp/ anymore.

I think the first thing you have to do is to reiterate just what /jp/ - Otaku Culture really is for, like what >>15270666 says. But then there are two issues.
1: /a/ and /jp/ are still pretty closely tied. Unless they sort things out, I don't think it'll ever be possible. But /a/ as it is now is in no position to sort anything out (issues with moderation). /jp/ also has that issue but it hasn't done as much harm as it has to /a/. And the /a/ and /jp/ userbases have grown apart, so what they want has also become different.
2: Save for 2hu, is there even a use for /jp/ anymore? What can it have that wouldn't better work in other boards? This one I think /jp/ should decide for itself.

For Japanese games at least, that's easy. Have a /vg/ thread for pure game discussion, concentrate derivative anime/manga discussion in /a/ and everything else in /jp/ (but really sporadic discussion of anything should be allowed regardless of the thread).

For things that aren't 2hu, I find that those who aren't involved in the source material (so for games for example, those who don't play it) are better off discussing things in /jp/, while for those who are involved in the source material are better off discussing things in /a/. But that could just be me. Maybe the opposite is true depending on the franchise.

>>15270083
>KanColles
I'd prefer it if you didn't count in the chink ripoff games.

>>15271243
I think it's still 300, it doesn't show properly when it hits 300. Never saw a thread that had been bumped within the range of 300-310.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ is so fucking boring now every time a thread that doesn't resemble a general pops up it's efficiently and immediately wiped off the board

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>>15277058
>Never saw a thread that had been bumped within the range of 300-310
It does. I've monitored threads to see for myself. I've even see threads hit 3110, get a few posts deleted, and resume bumping. It's really bizarre.

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>>15277085
Well, that's interesting. But if it got increased from 300 then I must really question the purpose.

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>>15277026
A /bb/, a blue /b/, would be an interesting board.

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>>15277058
>2: Save for 2hu, is there even a use for /jp/ anymore? What can it have that wouldn't better work in other boards? This one I think /jp/ should decide for itself.
The meidos have allowed this thread to continue which I appreciate (although I'm pretty sure it's autosage or this is one of the longest sage chains I've seen in a while) but we haven't really reached any consensus on anything other than "__ was better before" which is pretty much the common thought on every board or website.
The relationship was bumpy, but this is one of the times it'd be nice to have /q/ and moot back. Even without the language barrier Hiro seems confused about a lot of things here and I think it's just a couple mods calling the shots.

>>15277093
You could give this thread a test:
>>15070892

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>>15277093
I honestly don't know either. It was at 300/300 for a reason, but sometime after hiro showed up it went to 310, making us even more special snowflakey than we were already.

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>>15277108
>we haven't really reached any consensus on anything other than "__ was better before
I don't know. It seems like threads where replying posters participate seem to be the way to go. Also I might make a CM3D2 thread if I update the game and feel like grinding out positions.

It's not much but it's something.

I'm not sure if that guy's idea for a court case won't get moved to /qst/ though.

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>>15277108
With moot as he was just before he left, he'd only make things even worse. At least Hiro wouldn't. He's too cautious but at least he won't fuck things up.

Rather than have moot back, I'd prefer to bank on the small chance of Hiro actually doing something.

>You could give this thread a test:
Oh, it got bumped up. It just won't show unless you refresh the page.
>18
Welp.

>>15277155
It seems like all boards with 300 post bump limit were affected, not just /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how staff decides when to let metathreads slide and when to delete them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>15277538
Arbitrarily. That's how authoritarianism works.

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>>15277538
This one has been pretty civil though, and we did get autosaged so its not like they aren't paying attention.

Its a good thing, we haven't had a good metathread in a long time without a certain group spamming them with shit.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ has been utter shit since 2012,
and just shit since 2010.

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>>15270666
>how do you define what content belongs on /jp/ instead?
You don't define it past "non-anime/manga Japanese media", otherwise you get "purist" shitheads arbitrarily policing what the board is and isn't for.

>>15277058
>the /a/ and /jp/ userbases have grown apart, so what they want has also become different
Only no. The /a/ and /jp/ userbases are now one and the same. Of course there's a huge /v/ minority thrown into the mix, but a majority of /jp/ are just /a/ regulars talking about stuff in the exact same way they talk about anime on /a/. The times when the two boards were genuinely separate entities ended as far back as 2010-11.

>Save for 2hu, is there even a use for /jp/ anymore?
Of course there isn't. Why go to /a/'s empty and slow branch when you can just go to /a/?

>>15277108
>it'd be nice to have /q/ and moot back
I didn't mind /q/ (and we do have /qa/ for meta shit), but moot being gone is a cause for celebration, for /jp/ in particular. It was too late to change anything, but still.

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>>15277318
>>15277780
I mean more that moot was someone that we could actually talk to; we knew where he stood on things. It's anyone's guess these days. I guess the IRC is the best place but I'm not a fan of that place.

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>>15277780
>there's a huge /v/ minority thrown into the mix
That's what I meant. They've been crossboarding to /a/ but /jp/ has been left relatively untouched in comparison. So some oldfags stopped going to /a/ and stuck with /jp/. /a/ culture has become a lot worse because of that. It's also why the moderation issues have affected /a/ more than they've affected /jp/.

In short, the userbase has grown apart.

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>>15277058
Wouldn't discussing japanese games on /jp/ make sense as long as they don't become a general?

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>>15278686
>as long as they don't become a general?
Pretty hard for that to happen. As things stand now, they either become a general, or they die out quick and people lose interest. Unless you make multiple threads for those but that works much better for character discussion than for game discussion.

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>>15279683
I think if the games are single player then they won't become generals, at least I think that generals are only for multiplayer games where having a "permanent" place to meet or grab information makes more sense.
Though I haven't played many games in the last few years so I don't know if there are games that fit /jp/ other than non-translated or not well known JRPGs.

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>>15279709
>I think if the games are single player then they won't become generals
What is Kantai Collection.

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>>15279750
Really? I thought that was some sort of MMO.

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>>15279769
It's a single player browser game. Even now the friend function is nonexistent.

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>>15278686
>Wouldn't discussing japanese games on /jp/ make sense

Do you count Metal Gear Solid and Dark Souls as Japanese games, or is there some further requirement?

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>>15279797
I would say games that would be more inline with /jp/, I haven't been on /v/ in a long time but they really hated games with an anime style and next to no one spoke japanese so maybe those games make more sense to talk about on /jp/.
I'm sure you could get some good discussion going on /v/ about MGS or Dark Souls or really any other massively popular and well liked games like those.

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>>15279835
Well, what about untranslated games that aren't anime style then?

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>>15279903
I guess? Though I don't know how most of /jp/ would react to a thread about a random video game or if even the janny would let it stay for more than 30 seconds.

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>>15281225
The keywords seem to be niche and obscure.
If it's something you could mention in real life or even on /v/ or /a/ and have someone know of it then it doesn't seem to belong on /jp/.

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>>15270620
I made my crappy Gensokyo judge for the OP of that thread. Bring "your" grievances to that thread soon (I'll wait for this meta thread to die) and hopefully we can have fun and bring a brief respite to the endless pessimism of the jay.
There's a good chance my thread will fail, but there's a 100% chance it will "fail" if I never make it. Be the change you want to see, /jp/.

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>>15281908

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Why stay in the j if you can just learn japanese and move to 2ch or futaba or wherever?
Is there a satisfaction in being "a third person"?

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>>15281225
>>15281655
Well the janny being the janny is another problem too, I guess.

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>>15282226
Futaba is a much worse and shitposty place than 4chan. And that's if it's not dead nowadays.(I haven't been there in a while.)

2ch a shit. also ip blocks.

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>>15282310
Yeah, that's why I mentioned /q/.
It'd be nice if we actually knew where the meido stood on things without eating bans.

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>>15283094
They won't tell us. They just want us to walk around blindly just so they can flex their powers and ban us if we step on a landmine.

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>>15282359
>also ip blocks.
Let's be honest here, this isn't a bad thing and will never be a bad thing, because every time I've played MMORPGs with /jp/, the ones that actually force you to go trough even a single ounce of trouble. Blocked IP's, blocked logins, hiragana captchas and generally even a small needed understanding of japanese can go a long way since most of the times someone on /jp/ will solve the problem for everyone else but this means that anyone crossboarding probably has their own unique server in NA/EU already and lacks the needed attention span to apply that solution to join a new server.

I flat out love MMORPG discussions with /jp/, they're always fun and people tell nice stories, but they also bring out the horrible clogged disgusting mess that is /vg/, and in which case these people go their maximum to bash and shit on people playing on servers that they don't find their own.

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And now gnfos is dead...

[Anonymous No.]

See you guys in next year's metathread.

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>>15283453
>...
Speaking of which, some crossies from /a/ are sperging out over this, as if this place is current /a/.

And guess what, it only happens in some of the generals.

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It's really Gay when NewFriends Outcry over that kind of Stuff.

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Oh, you sly anon.

Since you're here, meido, would you mind talking to other mods in IRC about possibly making some sort of statement about what's allowed on /jp/? It's a bit nebulous as we've been saying.

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It's kind of funny that this thread lasted as long as it did because of all the deleted threads.
I've watched it as the last one in the catalog for a few hours now since there was a buffer zone of 5.

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>>15270394
i drive

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In the end, I just wanted some new phenomenon to rip through the board. A new Cosmic Break, a new Yume Nikki, or something. /vg/ should still be deleted. Encouraging generals for basically everything that comes out was a mistake.

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>>15269915
lol@jan

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>>15269915
>progrider
why is that considered /jp/ by him

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>>15285742,4
It is sort of a confusing inclusion, but /lounge/ consisted of nothing but /jp/ers so it kind of makes sense. It's gone forever anyway so who cares.

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>>15285742,4
sheer ignorance

[Anonymous No.]

I don't remember making this thread...