Elona

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Elona Anonymous Sat Apr 16 06:37:06 2016 No.15084114 [Reply] [Original]

Elona+ Custom 1.55 General Information (for newer players): http://pastebin.com/Zcavai8x

Elona+ Custom 1.55 Mods: http://pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C

In Nefia if you try to make sourdough, the bread will become sweeter the more you feed the starter. Sugar exists in Nefia but isn't widely used.

Anonymous Sat Apr 16 08:26:08 2016 No.15084346

So, er, to kick off the thread:

I originally wanted to make the prompt: 'Post Character/pet ideas!', however when I got to writing mine it sort of got out of hand. At this point it's a short fanfic, it's not done yet but would any lurkers mind if I posted it for feedback/help summarizing it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 10:21:18 2016 No.15084680 Martial artist fairy. Gunner golem. Wizard giant. Productive member of society elea. I love contradictory/impossible template.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 10:22:08 2016 No.15084685 Its 1.56 already, trash thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 10:31:07 2016 No.15084725 >>15084685 Not even linking to the previous thread at that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 11:52:11 2016 No.15084978 What's the best place to put up a house?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 12:12:46 2016 No.15085037 >>15084978 I like to pick near the center of the continent, but that's just me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 13:14:55 2016 No.15085253 >>15084680 I've done martial artist fairy and beat zeome with it, it worked out better than I thought it would honestly. You just gotta dump a lot of early level skill points and plat into martial arts to get the base dice up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 15:52:41 2016 No.15085721 Is it me or magic seeds only grow rods now ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 16:00:12 2016 No.15085744 >>15085721 If that's the case that's not necessarily a bad thing. The only other thing they used to grow into is spell books? Probably could go elsewhere for spell books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 16:13:14 2016 No.15085791 Previous thread: >>15024773 >>15084725 Be the change you want to see etc etc

Anonymous Sat Apr 16 16:14:24 2016 No.15085795

>>15084680
>Productive member of society elea.

I'm intrigued by this. It's true you don't see many Elea in towns. You mainly see them in dungeons or in the slave auctions in Derphy. I imagine it would be hard for an Elea to assimilate into the cities of North Tyris for example after well, living like an animal. Makes me wonder what a typical day of life is for an Elea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 16:17:57 2016 No.15085819 >>15085795 If Derphy is any indication, it includes running from or regularly killing slavers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 16:40:21 2016 No.15085884 >>15085721 >>15085744 Farmed a full magic farm on a lucky day, zero spellbooks

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 17:04:34 2016 No.15085958 1.56 seems to be pretty unstable, so be extra careful with it. There's a gauge attack crash and a couple of other issues.

>>	Anna !NwnXkFZetU Sat Apr 16 19:35:17 2016 No.15086586 >>15085958 Is this exclusive to custom or does it happen in vanilla 1.56?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 19:53:35 2016 No.15086636 >>15086586 Vanilla. There are also reports of Manytia ignoring the player.

Anonymous Sat Apr 16 20:15:41 2016 No.15086715
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Second piece of artwork I've seen that depicted Itzpalt as Kiwi. Was wondering why that was the case so I did a bit of research. Found that the reason why he's depicted that way is because in the Japanese version if you put in Itzpalt as your wish it would summon a kiwi. So not only does Itzpalt grant some neat stuff but he's tasty fruit with lots of health benefits too. Ano that's a bit too much. Please nerf. I can't handle the glory of kiwi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 22:51:37 2016 No.15087248 >>15086715 >No yacatect

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 23:10:53 2016 No.15087307 >>15087248 She was but a line in game files during the days of original Elona.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 23:24:40 2016 No.15087352 >>15087307 >line in game files Holy shit, I never knew that she was in vanilla Elona. I also learned very recently that south tyris was also in there, along with... uh... the slut and the leopard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 23:35:31 2016 No.15087381 >>15087352 Oh come on now, you sleep with the entirety of the planet and you're branded a "slut". Ludicrous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 23:37:16 2016 No.15087387 >>15087307 ah, that makes sense. >>15087381 The nerve of some people is just astounding, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 16 23:57:36 2016 No.15087428 >>15087381 My feelings are a bit hurt anon. I haven't been approached by this lady yet. I'd never sleep with her because of lewds but I'd feel a lot better if she approached me and I had the satisfaction of telling her no.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 00:19:39 2016 No.15087477 The thumbnail for lost irva looks like a mallard duck's head with soap suds on it. >because of lewds Explain further.

Anonymous Sun Apr 17 01:09:57 2016 No.15087606
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>>15087477
You know, it's t-that thing you do with t-that and then t-hat thing happens. Too lewd! Moving on, is the black angel pet any good? Anyone have one that they're using?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 01:57:36 2016 No.15087675 File: 28 KB, 275x275, 1356603436481[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15087606

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 02:17:13 2016 No.15087749 File: 776 KB, 514x667, 1453986859422.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15087606 >is the black angel pet any good? Anyone have one that they're using? I'm using her every night

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 06:50:57 2016 No.15088182 A cup of coffee is now a cupcup of coffee ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 06:51:58 2016 No.15088184 >>15088182 double the cup, double the caffeine

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 07:13:58 2016 No.15088227 File: 46 KB, 800x600, title.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I didn't like how the girl was covered by the menu so I moved her to the right.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 11:36:36 2016 No.15088932 File: 1.45 MB, 1584x1344, uguucharacter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] nue spritshits for 1.56, if y'all interested. monster girl https://jii.moe/VyTMic3yZ.bmp

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 11:41:35 2016 No.15088951 File: 1.50 MB, 1584x1344, edgycharacter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15088932 non-monster girl https://jii.moe/Ek7ji93kZ.bmp Already checked the export settings in gimp, so hopefully there shouldn't be any compatibility issues.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 12:48:01 2016 No.15089294 File: 70 KB, 299x222, ZjQExyDfGE[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15088932 >>15088951 >.png >1.5 mb

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 13:15:52 2016 No.15089465 >>15089294 Nm, it's fine. Btw 1.57 seems to be up. Another week until custom update orz.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 13:18:25 2016 No.15089482 >>15089465 Yeah. http://www1.axfc.net/u/3653070.zip http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:21906

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 13:53:43 2016 No.15089642 >>15088932 >>15088951 Thanks, updated the pastebin.

Anonymous Sun Apr 17 14:24:32 2016 No.15089767

>>>15089482
>The type of shop that you own can be changed. It's similar to expanding the shop in that it will cost money. Items that are not compatible with the shop type will not sell at all, but compatible items will sell for more, and sell more quickly. For example, food shops will sell food items very easily. This and the above change make roleplaying a shopkeeper much easier - not that this was the reason for the change.

>the food shop. Will sell only food items. Final selling price has x 2 modifier.

Hello.

>Cold damage deals more damage on wet targets. The multiplier is higher than the one for lightning damage.

For anyone at the high-levels, how will this change affect your skill rotations/strategies?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 14:29:01 2016 No.15089785 >Precious equipment will no longer come with random equipment attributes. Noooo. No longer rerolling to get OP effects.

Anonymous Sun Apr 17 16:41:05 2016 No.15090245
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Think someone requested the black valkyrie in the past? Found it buried in pixiv while searching for something for my shoggoth.

>>15089767
Won't change much since I've been leveling my fireball, iceball, and thunder vortex spells. Fireball and iceball do more damage than thunder vortex but the wet status added a multiplier which made up for it. Now fireball has its own multiplier through oil and from what you're saying iceball is getting one too. Kinda puts fireball and iceball over thunder vortex in potential damage but the spells I use to damage enemies has always revolved around enemy resists.

For instance, undead creatures when I see them triggers a sense of glee because they burn so easily without adding multipliers or applying elemental scar. I love running into the zombie queen because I can expect to see a log full of six digit damage figures to her and all the zombies she spawns. Adding multipliers or stripping away resists through elemental scar would just be overkill.

If something were to be weak to thunder I'd use thunder vortex or if something was weak to ice I'd use iceball. Everything else I use magic storm.

There is one special case that comes to mind and that's the possible enemy that has superb resists in everything including magic. In that special case, I'd probably use iceball. I'd use elemental scar to rip out the enemies resist making my elemental spells actually do more damage than pure magic and then I'd apply the wet damage multiplier as that's really easy to apply over oil. It takes a bit more work to make oil and it's easy to apply wet through chucking a random potion at an enemy or to just use bubble storm to make a bunch of enemies wet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 17:55:59 2016 No.15090496 >don't want to update to 1.56 because you're a shameless Kumiromi stamina slut who holds a key to shadowstep everything in sight >don't want to stay with 1.55 because Sophia's quest is broken after a new year passes Decisions, decisions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 18:10:09 2016 No.15090555 >>15090496 How about 1.57?

Anonymous Sun Apr 17 18:29:13 2016 No.15090630

>>15090555
Unfortunately, I've become the lategame faggot who complains about not enough content for lategame players like myself. Specialized shops and the other tweaks aren't hideously exploitable gamebreakers like herb farming and artifact fusion, so there's no compelling reason to hit 1.57 so soon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 19:00:12 2016 No.15090721 >>15090496 It is almost the same for Kumi, you recover 1 less stamina per 5 turns compared to pre-1.56

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 21:21:09 2016 No.15091334 Here's a face1.bmp I made using portraits from other elona faces and rueken's art.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 21:22:55 2016 No.15091343 Here's a face1.bmp I made using portraits from other elona faces and rueken's art. https://jii.moe/NJl6V76J-.bmp Please forget about my failed post earlier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 17 21:29:03 2016 No.15091368 >>15091343 Cute! Added to the pastebin.

Anonymous Sun Apr 17 22:54:16 2016 No.15091584

>>15089767
Mmmh, assuming cap negociation, this makes it desirable to empty shops inventories and dump into your own shops.
Especially attractive with the spellwriter, something like reserving only jua cure ( or is oracle more expensive ? domination ? ).

You can finally roleplay as a jew, buying low, selling high !
Yacatect and her saint Recette will be proud of me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 18 01:46:32 2016 No.15092039 does 1.6 include the 1.55 custom bonus scenes? Or will I need to wait for 1.56 custom to include those?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 18 01:47:31 2016 No.15092041 >>15089482 >the inn shop. Will sell only containers and potions >containers I'm confused. "container" as in container items like chests/safes/mat boxes? And can empty ones be even sold?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 18 02:29:30 2016 No.15092169 >>15092039 Wait for custom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 18 17:58:58 2016 No.15095213 >>15092041 Yes, I would assume so. >箱、ポーション It's like how the real innkeepers sell gamble chests and crim ales.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 18 18:07:53 2016 No.15095236 >>15095213 I wanted make a remark about how slow the thread was and how we'd fall off the catalog but I didn't want to bump it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 18 22:26:30 2016 No.15096362 So aside from >precious items, kitty banks, Figurines, cards, deeds, and Small Medals Are there any items I can't inherit? Are evolution hearts fair game?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 01:54:44 2016 No.15097072 >>15096362 Yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 02:39:33 2016 No.15097226 Yacatect's glasses sure help my autism. Now I realize how many herb stats I was wasting by not quaffing potential potions at the correct time.

Anonymous Tue Apr 19 04:36:18 2016 No.15097463 [DELETED]

(add two to six and place the result here. Remove the parentheses.)ch.net/roguelike/res/15.html#q237

>How to use EloSnack to make custom artifacts

This guide was made at some early stage in E+'s life so it's unclear how it will react to our current versions. Please make a backup to all your files before trying and report back.

I wonder how much lost knowledge is out there just floating on the web. Strange, this. Do you think they're playing Elona in China?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 06:17:08 2016 No.15097581 >>15097463 Is there a life on China?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 06:44:16 2016 No.15097619 >>15090245 I am that anon, that you anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 06:47:48 2016 No.15097629 >>15097619 Thank you, sorry anon for the typo Do I need to wait for any custom mods to update for 1.56 or 1.57?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 07:18:13 2016 No.15097672 >>15097629 There are apparently some bugs in vanilla 1.56 that Custom has not fixed so if you'd rather not deal with them you could wait until Anna has something up for 1.57.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 07:28:33 2016 No.15097694 How big is the Elona fanbase?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 07:41:44 2016 No.15097723 >>15097694 Counting in the Japanese? Small-ish. It's an indie sand-box roguelike that was never marketed particularly heavily, to my knowledge. I'd be surprised if the number of regular players was equal to 1000 in NA alone.

Anonymous Tue Apr 19 07:47:42 2016 No.15097737
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>>15097723
>>15097694
I googled
>indie sand-box roguelike
thinking it sounded like the majority of indie games being developed but instead of getting lots of hits, I only landed on one game. Is there anything more frustrating than cropping pictures in paint? It's like trying to glue a mint-leaf to a coked-out moneky's anus using only your tongue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 08:00:20 2016 No.15097770 >>15097737 >It's like trying to glue a mint-leaf to a coked-out moneky's anus using only your tongue. You seem to speak from experience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 08:03:56 2016 No.15097782 >>15097770 Tastes like chicken. \__( ``/)__/

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 08:14:06 2016 No.15097814 Why is my Strength stat red? I removed every equipment and item in the inventory, checked for mutations and diseases, checked for debuffs, and nothing there causes my strength to go red.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 08:15:14 2016 No.15097821 >>15097814 You're cursed, talk to a priestess or drink a (blessed) bottle of restore body.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 08:21:19 2016 No.15097837 >>15097821 Oh, thanks.

Anonymous Tue Apr 19 08:24:06 2016 No.15097847

>>15097837
No worries, on my first character I didn't realize that either. I had all of my status dropped down to ridiculous levels and I was wondering why my leveling wasn't increasing my damage at all. Also, quaffing the blessed restore body potions, or blessed restore spirit potions, boost those stats by xx amount for, I think, 1 ingame year, or until you die. I highly recommend it.

Anonymous Tue Apr 19 12:30:21 2016 No.15098589
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I must have prostituted myself at least a thousand times, but my charisma won't go up - instead my learning just keeps growing way better than my charisma even though I'm a Juere Gunner and I never actually tried to train learning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 14:00:09 2016 No.15098900 >>15098589 Your potential f or charisma, which is the rate at which you earn experience for it is too low, gotta increase it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 14:01:26 2016 No.15098907 What are the known bugs in 1.56? Or at least where can I go read about them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 14:18:54 2016 No.15098975 >>15098589 Also you don't get any exp while at NEED Sleep status. >>15098907 There was a crash with enemies' gauge attack and bugs with new NPC in Lost Irva.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 17:41:41 2016 No.15099624 >>15098975 That's only the red "Need Sleep!" one right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 18:57:55 2016 No.15099924 since when don't material gathering spots spawn in puppy cave?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 19:17:46 2016 No.15099991 >>15099924 I think that was a recent change actually. Probably can track it down in one of the change logs. Guess Ano didn't want people to have it easy farming materials.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 19:19:31 2016 No.15100000 >>15099991 That's fair, sadly tend to ignore the other dungeons for a while cause of level scaling. Thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 23:30:45 2016 No.15100924 Are there any Return points in Lost Irva aside from Ulm-Leson?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 19 23:34:20 2016 No.15100930 Holy shit Gene Engineering is broken as fuck, I can't believe I never used it before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 00:09:52 2016 No.15101031 >>15084114 Downloading Elona custom and placing it on elona plus just gives me an "invalid version" error. Is there a way to fix this?

Anonymous Wed Apr 20 00:10:49 2016 No.15101033

>>15100924
The deepest level of the Cradle of Chaos you've reached. Not very useful, obviously.

But you can also talk to Norne the fairy in Larna to have him warp you to the Shrine of Guardian in Lost Irva and back. That makes the shrine/Larna a defacto return point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 00:21:55 2016 No.15101073 >>15101031 Wait until valid version comes out? This friday probably.

>>	Anna !NwnXkFZetU Wed Apr 20 04:40:31 2016 No.15101721 >>15101073 Yes, I'll update Custom to 1.57 on Friday.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 06:33:56 2016 No.15101855 File: 779 KB, 1024x768, 1458533201984.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15101721 You're the best

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 12:32:51 2016 No.15102666 Is http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Translation_and_spelling_errors up-to-date or did Custom already fix all of that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 15:50:10 2016 No.15103262 >>15102666 >>15102666 Short answer is no. The slightly longer answer is should it? Longest answer is currently here: http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:21644 While I personally don't mind either way if it does change I'll miss some of weird English.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 16:29:14 2016 No.15103424 >>15097814 >>15097847 Something like +5 or +20%, whichever is higher, and that includes speed. Blessed restores are pretty much the first things I try to get.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 16:57:07 2016 No.15103526 I took some god gemstones and a statue into the Abyss to waste a month (shop needed to unload some Lucky Day loot) and now their cooldowns are stuck. What the hell do I do

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 17:15:13 2016 No.15103593 >>15103526 What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 18:23:53 2016 No.15103895 >>15103526 I've had this before but it was quite a while ago. I don't remember specifically having to do something to unstick them. I think they just unstuck them selves after a while.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 19:33:07 2016 No.15104207 Just got banned from /tg/, what did you do today fellow Nefians?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 19:38:05 2016 No.15104237 >>15104207 Today I opened a shop. My pets aren't very good so business is bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 19:38:59 2016 No.15104244 >>15101721 Oh shit its AnnaBanana!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 20:02:15 2016 No.15104370 >>15104237 Zombie dancers, despite being dead, are creatures of Yacatect. Look into recruiting one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 20 20:41:58 2016 No.15104599 >>15103593 They've been on (72hr.) and haven't changed.

Anonymous Wed Apr 20 21:02:13 2016 No.15104678

>>15104599
If I remember correctly there's a mechanism in place to prevent people from spamming statues - what you were trying to do. If the cooldowns are getting stuck when you leave the abyss, though, then that may be a bug.

Are you outside the Abyss now? Are the statues still stuck? Have you entered any towns/traveled on the world map since? Have you dropped them and picked them up again? Which statues/gemstones are they? Are you playing on custom? If yes, have you tried on regular E+?

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 00:37:52 2016 No.15105449

>>15104678
Great questions. However, they started working.

I noticed after I slept that they started working but they might have worked earlier than that. Dropping and picking up, dropping and leaving + re-entering area did not work.

I went straight from the Abyss to the town to the Border back to my North Tyris home and they remained stuck.

It was two gemstones of Kiwi, a gemstone of Yacatect, and a statue of Kiwi.

On E+Custom 1.55.3.

So, my guess here is just "sleep and you'll be good."

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 00:39:01 2016 No.15105456 >>15105449 Wait not Kiwi, whatever the baller stamina one was.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 02:28:45 2016 No.15105791 >>15104370 is it possible to grab a zombie queen? I realize they're about level 130 or whatever, but looking them up on the wiki with their 306 CHA means they're probably worth it, no? >>15104207 Jut got off of work, time to level my juere monk

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 02:41:43 2016 No.15105826

>>15105791
Should be possible with good enough dominate spell lv or through a rod of domination.The wiki recommends an MRA as a shopkeeper. It has a charisma of 250 and negotiation of 117. Zombie Queen has more charisma, 306, but just slightly less negotiation at 103. Still, zombie queen should be good as a shop keeper since it's similar to the MRA.

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 11:54:12 2016 No.15107006

>100 consecutive arena wins you will receive 20000 fame, a potion of evolution, a random material kit and a treasure map. This bonus reward seems to scale based on the number of wins. 200 wins gave the same amount of fame but dropped two material kits, two potions of evolution and two treasure maps

does 1000 consecutive wins give 10 treasure maps?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 13:49:16 2016 No.15107375 Is it possible to change a race after making a character? Either through elosnack or file editting. Would I get the racial feat?

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 14:09:06 2016 No.15107443

>>15107375
You can change the text that appears after 'race' in the character viewer. You can do that with the Philosopher's Stone Mask. To get one you must either wish or find a recipe for it then use a pot for fusion. I have no idea where to find the recipe.

No racial feats are gained or lost.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 14:20:59 2016 No.15107477 >>15107443 yeah I decided I want different feats in the end, I'll fiddle around with elosnack, thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 14:27:08 2016 No.15107506 File: 32 KB, 328x327, 1461263228841.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15107477 ...another (You)....

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 14:44:10 2016 No.15107570 >>15107506 u wot aniki

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:20:34 2016 No.15108313 File: 5 KB, 48x96, 1400913896685.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is it possible to use a sprite from the character.bmp as the player's appearance? If so, how do I do it?

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:24:25 2016 No.15108331
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>>15089785
>Precious equipment will no longer come with random equipment attributes.

This is complete bullshit
All my precious items were rerolled with superior scrolls for amazing attributes

Sound, Magic resistance
I even have some spell multipliers on weapons

Fuck this update

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:39:34 2016 No.15108407 Golden Knight>Exile>Black Cat>Black Angel>Defender>Cute Fairy>Android

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:39:38 2016 No.15108408 >>15108331 They won't change if you don't reroll them again. Treasure them forever.

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:43:38 2016 No.15108424

>>15108331
I thought it said somewhere that it was also buffing the enchantments to make up for it? Either way I'm going to wait till the wiki's been fully updated with all the changes before switching.
On the upside I doubt equipment you already have will change unless you do something to reroll it.

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:43:40 2016 No.15108425
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>>15108313
If you overwrite your pcc_body_x.bmp files with the sprite (16 times, that is), you can take the form of anything. Disable smooth scrolling for the full NPC experience.
https://jii.moe/Ek9qSrGe-.bmp

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:44:03 2016 No.15108430 >>15108313 Put it in /user/graphic and then iirc you can shape change yourself into that form. It needs to be named pic_1 or something like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:46:34 2016 No.15108440 >>15108425 I see, Thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:52:17 2016 No.15108458 >>15108407 More like Defender>cute fairy>android>goose>exile>mediocre

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:56:21 2016 No.15108472 >>15108407 Little Girl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Android >>> Exile >*

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 18:58:50 2016 No.15108477 >>15108424 >I thought it said somewhere that it was also buffing the enchantments to make up for it The update gives godly artifacts more attributes

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:05:33 2016 No.15108494 >>15108458 >>15108472 Android is decent now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:09:42 2016 No.15108502 File: 604 KB, 884x1200, 1404576333907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15108407 Cute Fairy > Android > Exile > Black Angel > Golden Knight > Defender > Black Cat

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:11:11 2016 No.15108506

>>15108494
You can teach any pet most skills and customize AI. So really the only difference between pets is INI (if you don't do degrade their stats) or cBitFlags.

Android has the cArmour flag + low ini, which makes her good for anything desu. Sleeping Giant is another creature you should have your eyes on as well, baka kouhai.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:13:36 2016 No.15108511 >>15108494 Poor man's pro-jet. Less damage reduction, but easier to farm ap and no need to raise life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:27:20 2016 No.15108535 >>15108331 Guess this is a bigger push to get in on that artifact fusion instead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:34:31 2016 No.15108556 File: 503 KB, 710x500, 1407173124704.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15108407 Golden Knight sure is cute. Not exactly sure what else she has going for her aside from what I hear with being able to carry lots of your luggage though.

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:00:21 2016 No.15108632

>>15108556
> carry lots of your luggage

If any of your pets are melee units then this becomes a moot point. I'm not even a melee and she would be useless if that's all she offered. And it is all she has going for her.

I have multiple melee pets, the only reason I don't have more is because I can't figure out any unique methods of attack. It's gotten to the point where I'm considering a shadow step + Zero Shoot/Shining Wave hybrid combo. Should be good desu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:03:24 2016 No.15108641 >>15108632 I've learned not to rely on shining wave because its prone to killing allies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:15:05 2016 No.15108971 Wait, so if I don't update, I can reroll my Kumiromi Scythe until it gets OP stats?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:32:44 2016 No.15109045 >>15108506 So the answer is no, basically! Also do pets staying at home get exp? Any other info on this? My younger sister keeps leveling up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:34:32 2016 No.15109055 >>15108331 I'm fine with this, there's no reason for miracle/godly to exist if precious is always better, and that's a little boring in a roguelike.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:58:03 2016 No.15109156 >>15108506 Don't sleeping giants fall asleep often though, even through sleep immunity?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 22:05:50 2016 No.15109194 >>15109156 They do seem kinda lazy.

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 22:22:52 2016 No.15109267
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>You can harvest Rod of Wishing from magic seeds

I actually have no idea what to wish for. Should I put a God Altar in my home? It's still an unupgraded cave, so idk if it'll get kept when I get enough money for a real house.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 22:46:33 2016 No.15109394 File: 94 KB, 589x133, nobody_told_me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man this shit's gonna be OP with the new food shop

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 23:00:44 2016 No.15109439

My sandbagged monster keeps going to this certain spot in my house every time I reenter my house even when I sandbagged her in a different spot. I also tried putting water tiles around that certain spot. While it does make the monster stay at a different place, when I remove the water tiles it goes back to that spot again when I leave the house.

What the fuck is going on here?

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 23:11:02 2016 No.15109473

>>15109267
>altar
No, especially if you live next to palmia or plan to.

>it'll get kept
Yes. All your stuff gets stuffed into a pile at your new home.

Keep it when you need to summon a god for the special reward, maybe. Or if you don't have 7LB/aurora ring/happy bed yet then you may want to just spend it on those.

>>15109439
Spooky!

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 23:22:01 2016 No.15109514

>>15109394
Depends on how you look at it. The way I see it, you can truly play a peaceful character now . People please try to contain your laughter. Please? With a food shop, a farmer can now make a nice bit of gold comparable to how much an adventurer can make clearing high level dungeons if they have enough farm fields. No longer do farmers need to be jelly of adventurers!

Also no reason why anyone should be poor now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 23:25:35 2016 No.15109527 >>15109514 Looking forward to the shop changes Now if anna would stop putting custom releases on e+ patches off for a week or two...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 23:34:43 2016 No.15109562 >>15109045 If you're looking for something early game then the android might fit the bill. If you're already in act 3 then probably not. >>15109439 Try using the house board to set it's location somewhere else.

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 23:48:05 2016 No.15109603

>>15109562
>Try using the house board to set it's location somewhere else.
I tried it and it doesn't work.

It seems that depending on where the monster
appears when it is summoned, the sandbagged monster would stay on that spot after leaving the house as long as it's a walkable tile regardless of where you used the sand bag on it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 00:45:09 2016 No.15109774 >>15109045 >do pets staying at home get exp? Some actions give exp to all allies on current map. For example, if you come home and get traveling experience, pets in your home will get the exp too. Other than that - no, as far as I know.

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:49:05 2016 No.15110152

>>15109774
That's fascinating though, thanks anon.
Nice way to level up weaker pets I suppose, at least early.

Also, I feel like I'm seeing adventurers a lot more often in the newer versions, like two to three times as much, idk if it's only me but I enjoy running into them more often in towns.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 03:21:09 2016 No.15110277 >>15110152 That's by design. Apparently adventurers in earlier versions used to just hang out in one general area. Now they tend to spread out all over the place whether that be North Tyris, South Tyris, or Irva.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 03:48:41 2016 No.15110368 >>15110277 That's pretty nice, makes adventurers and the game feel a little more alive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 07:16:47 2016 No.15111107 File: 938 KB, 524x800, 1458683598417.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15108407 Duck > the rest since I haven't used them.

Anna !NwnXkFZetU Fri Apr 22 09:59:16 2016 No.15111536

>>15109527
Sorry anon, but I'm much busier now than I was when I first started Custom. I still try to put out an update build on the Friday after a new release (which is my day off). The past two weeks have just been bad because we got 2 new E+ versions back to back.

But don't worry, custom will be updated for 1.57 tonight.

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 11:00:49 2016 No.15111707
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>>15111536
Don't listen to him. I, for one, and I'm sure the majority of anons, appreciate the time and effort you put into this project. Thank you for your continuous hard work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:28:26 2016 No.15111970 >>15084114 So I'm just playing the tutorial of this, and it says it's better to move with the keypad. However I have a tenkeyless keyboard, will that seriously hamper gameplay?

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:34:42 2016 No.15111987

I have both Jure and Itzpalt in my house. Apparently Jure became an alcolohic because she cant get out (i am not holding her hostage i s-swear !), she fucks with Itzpalt and they begin fighting, those neverending lightning bolts of Itzpalt lays ruin to my house (every decoration is fucking burned, goodbye rank 1 home)

So what the fuck do i do ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:43:28 2016 No.15112021 >>15111970 Very yes. I think movement is hardcoded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:48:57 2016 No.15112037 >>15111970 I have over 700 hours and never used the keypad I just use arrowkeys and the normal number keys

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:49:03 2016 No.15112039 >>15111970 >tenkeyless keyboard If you have a playstation or some other controller, you can go through either this thread or the previous one to find someone's project enabling it's use in Elona. I don't know if it was implemented, however.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:50:40 2016 No.15112046 >>15111970 >Tenkeyless I thought this meant arrows. No, I don't think you'll have issues. I don't have a numpad either and I've never suffered for it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:54:45 2016 No.15112052 >>15112037 >>15112046 How do you guys move diagonally? Do you have to give up hotkeys for it? I'm running low on hotkey slots as it is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:54:50 2016 No.15112053 >>15112037 >>15112046 Alright, thanks. It took me a while to figure out what the fuck tutorial-man meant by "press 9", but I got it now

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:56:10 2016 No.15112058 >>15112052 >>15112053 Up arrow in conjunction with the left/right ones. It's a bit tricky but it's not hard with even small amounts of practice. There's a tutorial..?

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 13:01:13 2016 No.15112073

>>15112058
Yes, there is a tutorial

I just got out of the tutorial and I got killed by a hermit crab, RIP.
By the way, my character doesn't have a sprite (it's just a shadow) and I saw one monster that was just a big white square. I'm running through WINE on Gentoo GNU+Linux, is this a known issue or did I fuck up the installation somewhere? Most things do have proper graphics, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 13:02:42 2016 No.15112076 >>15112073 > sprite (it's just a shadow) Something, somewhere, is fucked up. Try pressing c and p. See what happens when you change the values there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 13:05:06 2016 No.15112086 >>15112076 I can't change any other than portrait

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 13:11:18 2016 No.15112108 >>15112086 Are you >>15108313 ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 13:16:34 2016 No.15112128 >>15112108 No

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 13:35:07 2016 No.15112193 >>15112128 Good because I was worried I'd screwed you over with my rambling. As for your issue, I recommend deleting the game and then re-downloading it. I've heard of people using WINE to great effect.

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 13:47:58 2016 No.15112239

>>15112193
A few files might just be corrupted, I'll look into it. It seems to only affect my sprite (which is not there) and the sprite for rabbits (which is a white box)

Also, this game is very lewd isn't it? I'm only just getting started and I've already "learned the pleasure of being hit hard" and tried to put a leash on a little girl

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 14:31:05 2016 No.15112392 >>15112239 You'll see that being hit hard flavour text a lot. I think it's the message whenever you gain CON stat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 14:46:06 2016 No.15112472 >>15111536 No pressure Anna, just ranting! Take your time. I definitely appreciate all the work you've done for the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 15:12:52 2016 No.15112578 >>15112472 E+C1.57 is up now. http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:17104#472 Also did vanilla 1.57 fix all the bugs introduced by vanilla 1.56?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 16:16:07 2016 No.15112781 >>15112578 >includes E+1.57 Thank you. Why is 1.57 hidden at the bottom of the Elona wiki anyway? Is the build not stable or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 16:20:31 2016 No.15112801 >>15112781 No, it's up top too but I felt like direct linking would be best. Did you see this yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLKalctcEEU

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 23:17:10 2016 No.15114673 >>15098589 horee shiet anon what are you doin. I thought I told you in the /sgg/ thread to go to the king's room in palmia to remove your clothing from visibility

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 23:18:30 2016 No.15114683 >>15114673 oh wait that was a different anon. anyway sleep whenever it says to sleep you silly person.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 23:52:10 2016 No.15114834 >>15108477 Ah! It's taken me several days and re-reading that line several times before I finally read it correctly. Guess I better try re rolling a few of the artefacts that I'll actually use.

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 23:57:27 2016 No.15114860

Anyone know what the gauge release Mind Break invokes off of? Wiki doesn't seem to say.
It seems to crash my game half the time and doesn't really do all that much when it doesn't.
I suppose insanity and dim is neat? But this is why I have pets with Eye of Insanity and Insult.
Running 1.57 Custom, incase it's just something on my end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 00:24:40 2016 No.15114958 Any of the eye special actions except eye of brainwashing. How are you using it if you don't know what it invokes off of?

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 00:24:49 2016 No.15114959

I have been playing for about 10 hours of gameplay now and I'm starting to lose the motivation to play mostly due to the lack of goals that I can attain in a short amount of time. I'm mostly just mindlessly running around the map and doing quests to get the money for a palace deed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 00:34:01 2016 No.15114995 >>15114959 That's a bad sign anon. In a sandbox type game like this you gotta be able to make your own goals and stay motivated.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 00:41:42 2016 No.15115019
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>>15114958
Wow, Really?
Seems a waste of a Gauge, but alright. Thanks for the quick answer.

No, I have pets who have Eye of Insanity (Black Cat) and Dimness (Gwen) who were AI'd to use the eye actions from quite a bit before when the new invoke was added and just noticed random crashes in the middle of fights. I tend to tl;dr most updates and just see for myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 01:15:02 2016 No.15115129 Man I wish we got some sort of gap-closer earlyish, maybe a feat. I guess I'll pump stealth for all my melees, as little sense as that makes.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 01:28:04 2016 No.15115170

>>15114959
>I'm starting to lose the motivation to play mostly due to the lack of goals that I can attain in a short amount of time

Definitely not the right mindset to have for this game. Everything about this game requires anywhere from a moderate amount of grinding to a lot of time invested to get something. It's rewarding though. You start off insanely weak and as you overcome the challenges in the game and grow in power there is a sense of satisfaction to be had. All of it takes time and a a bit of thought and strategy though. Elona is definitely not a game for the impatient and for people that hate repetition.

For the most part, people either embrace the grind or go back to another game where the rewards are easier and faster to achieve.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 04:57:00 2016 No.15115813

>>15114860
>Mind Break
Deals nerve and mind damage dependent on enchant level of equipment and Magic and Will stats.
Also deals MP damage.
Also increases target's sanity by the same amount as Eye of Insanity.
Also causes the same amount of Dim as Eye of dimness.
Also causes the target to vomit.
Unique NPCs and characters immune to dim will be unaffected by dim and insanity.

IT's in the 1.56 changelog.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 04:58:50 2016 No.15115818 >>15115129 Shadow step is gained at thirty stealth. Just 'r'est near lots of N{PCs with high potential. Don't waste level up poiints on it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 15:05:45 2016 No.15117465 >>15115818 I'LL WASTE ALL MY POINTS ON IT And I know, usually takes quite a few levels to attain though. Nowadays you can start predator and select stealth as your special skill and you end up with 19 something levels on it.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 15:19:26 2016 No.15117506

I've been playing an Elea mage and have mostly only focused on casting and a bit on firearms.

I'm around level 40 now and noticed I have less than 10 levels in all the melee related combat skills. Is this something that will screw me over in the late game, or am I good to keep relying on magic?

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 15:48:11 2016 No.15117623

>>15117506
Screwed? No, but you won't have as much of an easier time as hybrids. You can rely on casting as your only damage source for a very long time though. Don't know what or where your late game is but it isn't until you start seeing level 140+ enemies that a character that draws from different damage sources really starts to shine. It's those kind of enemies that you'll start to see that have immune/high resists to spells, love to silence(and have the hex last for quite some time), and have the HP to actually make the fight drag on so they can bring their full power to bare. You may run out of MP during the fight and wish you had another good damage source to finish the fight. Or you'll wish you could just use your MP for only heals and just use your other attack skills.

Still, a pure caster type should be fine if they over level themselves for a situation or come prepared to deal with the pitfalls listed above. Just keep in mind that the fight could of been easier if you were a hybrid.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 15:56:31 2016 No.15117660

>>15117623
Oh, and can't forget enemies that love to make you go insane which leads to confused and dim. Both makes casting treacherous as a miscast will either zap you of all your MP or blow up your character killing him/her. It's a lot safer to approach these enemies with melee or range skills.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 16:16:17 2016 No.15117743 How come moongate names are all in mojibake even though I ran in Japanese locale? Can I only fix this by running the regular Japanese version of Plus?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 16:48:54 2016 No.15117879 >>15117623 >>15117660 Thanks. I have been working on magic device as well as a backup to getting silenced. I will try to put some more work into firearms just in case I need some non-magic damage.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 17:14:14 2016 No.15118011

>>15117879
If you draw some of your damage from firearms remember this. The skill marksman is where most of your damage comes from as it's prime responsibility is raising damage multiplier. The firearms skill raises accuracy so if you're missing too much raise that skill. Something to keep in mind if you're wondering where to spend skill points on level up or gotten through AP.

Finally, remember that you spike your damage through special ammo on your ammo. Some players will even carry around multiple bullets just so they have a nice pool of special ammo to draw from. This is especially possible to do if you just throw your bullets into the 4d pocket.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 17:18:16 2016 No.15118034 New player here, I accidentally put on a doomed item and my one scroll of uncurse didn't fix it. Is there an easy way to un-fuck myself?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 17:56:26 2016 No.15118227 >>15118034 Talk to the nun NPC in town that can uncurse your equips for you. It will cost a few thousand gold. There should be one in every town. In Vernis she's with the magic vendor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 18:01:10 2016 No.15118248 >>15118227 I'll try collecting a few thousand gold while teleporting all over the place, then

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 18:10:17 2016 No.15118294 >>15118248 Just looked it up and it's 2500 gold. If you've got a blessed bottle of water you can also Mix that with your cursed things to make them blessed instead (not sure if this works with currently equipped items, never tried it).

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 18:41:43 2016 No.15118408 So 1.57 isnt on the main page, is it some kind of secret alpha experimental build or should i upgrade already ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:04:31 2016 No.15118526 >>15118011 I'm a Gunner, but I managed to get my hands on <Shena's Panty> which vastly outperforms my current gun even with my throwing at only level 4. Should I just give up on firearms altogether and level throwing?

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:15:51 2016 No.15118601

>>15118526
No. There are much better guns you can get later that will outperform all throwing weapons. If you want to just take a break from guns for a bit to use those panties that's understandable but there isn't a reason to drop firearms altogether.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:22:06 2016 No.15118642 >>15118408 Probably just haven't gotten around to updating it yet. 1.57 is out and so is the custom mod for it. Haven't had any problems with it so far myself. http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:21906 http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:17104

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:37:50 2016 No.15118712 What skills should I spend my bonus points at, assuming that they are all at low levels.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:51:24 2016 No.15118754

>>15118712
Depends on what you are. The skills that you use to deal your damage are a safe bet. Various utility skills, especially cooking, is nice to get to a decent value as soon as possible. Consult the pastebin in OP for beginner tips and general information on commonly asked questions and suggestions on stuff to do:

http://pastebin.com/Zcavai8x

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 20:16:28 2016 No.15118833 >>15118712 I wouldn't spend your bonus points on a low level skill unless you desperately need to level it up - typically saving points for high level skills at low potential is the most bang for your buck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:18:42 2016 No.15119134 brainwashing is horseshit

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:37:20 2016 No.15119226

>>15119134
Think having enough resists, possibly mind, helps prevent it. You have to be diligent in raising it though. I have superb+++++ in all my resists and while creatures in normal dungeons can't brainwash me, creatures deep in the void certainly can. Probably got to stack more resists. I agree though. Brainwash is one of the worst status ailments to have placed on you because you remove your gear which causes a loss of resists and immunities. A recipe for disaster if you're surrounded by enemies salivating at casting spells and other bad stuff on you. Think pets that are brainwashed might attack you as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:38:35 2016 No.15119236 Do soul spindle allies retain the equipment they were wearing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:56:43 2016 No.15119344 Can you lose precious equipment when you die?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 22:01:21 2016 No.15119360 >>15119344 I think so. If you can't get it from where you died, the only way to get it back is through the Little Sister quest rewards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 22:01:32 2016 No.15119361 >>15119344 Yes. Only way I know of to get back a loss precious item is to do the Little sister level 30 quest. http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Little_sister_level_30

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 22:11:26 2016 No.15119396 >>15119360 >>15119361 Damn, that quest looks hard. Looks like I'll just have to store them in my house till I'm strong enough to take on a Big Daddy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 09:54:37 2016 No.15121180 How good is Martial Artist? It looks a bit weak early game but the late game power looks tempting.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 10:00:03 2016 No.15121197

>>15121180
Pretty wild, actually. The main issue I have with it is that it's not as versatile as multi-wielding. I mean that you can't give your character twelve arms and twelve weapons/shields for all the damage reduction procs or invokes etc. You can still use shields though so it's not all bad.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:14:39 2016 No.15121723

>>15121180
Working on an MA char right now. Two big problems at low key levels: you do shitty damage without claws/tonfas, but your accuracy will be shitty if you wear them. This becomes less of a issue later on when you unlock MA skills which add in some great utility and damage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 15:26:44 2016 No.15122547 >>15119236 no

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 15:47:34 2016 No.15122664 >You can use Sexy Dance in Party Time quests to get points This game just gets lewder and lewder

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 18:35:21 2016 No.15123617

What are some good pets to get at early game (less than level 20) and would still be good at late-game?

Is Necromancy any good?

Also, does anyone remember that japanese site where you can download lots of character sprites and PCCs? I forgot what it's called.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 19:05:39 2016 No.15123768

>>15123617
Can't comment on necromancy as I haven't given it a hard look at it yet. I do know that it has steadily been buffed over the various versions.

Some good early pets are the little girl, younger sister, older sister, gwen, probably all of the god pets, warrior/wizard Eleas, fire dragon child, fox brother, younger cat sister, M girl, or pretty much any pet with a low INI that you feel is worthwhile.

Sprites can be downloaded from pixiv or from here:

http://www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm

Additional links to stuff you might be interested in are in the OPs pastebin:

http://pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 19:09:04 2016 No.15123781 >>15123768 >http://www.elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm Ah yes this is the one, thank you.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 19:40:42 2016 No.15123949

>>15123617
>Necromancy any good?
Yes. Less fuss than pets, scales in power with you, you can have a whole bunch of them, replenishable in fights. They don't replace pets, but complement them very well. Grab palmia/lumiest/etc coffins if and when you can.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:01:50 2016 No.15124041

>>15123617
This guy >>15123768 is pretty spot on

Little Girl, any of the deity pets, any of the "Diary" pets, etc. are pretty good
Remember, weaker pets early on are actually superior to stronger pets in late game due to INI.

Pretty much any pet that is a cute girl is also a good choice long term.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:09:53 2016 No.15124071 >>15123768 >>15123949 >>15124041 Got it. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:10:26 2016 No.15124073 I've been wondering - how good are the gods and inner gods as pets? Do they keep killing themselves and you with map-wide attacks?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:26:50 2016 No.15124138 >>15124073 God-recruiting penalty.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:50:10 2016 No.15124250

>>15124073
Sadly, when you recruit the gods and their inner god forms they either lose some of their special attacks or they're nerfed very hard. Also yeah, the god recruiting penalty that anon talks about hurts too. What you're left with is a god that is a mere shadow of how powerful they were and are incredibly hard to train due to high INI. Despite that, if you're willing to deal with all of that it, you have some interesting pets from a role playing perspective including lewds. Seriously, be thankful you're one of the few or the only one to bury your face into the pillowy mammaries of Ehekatl or even deflower one of them.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:56:30 2016 No.15124282

>>15124250
You don't need to recruit them as pets to fug them though. All you need to do is invite them to your house and raise their relationship level via gifts and friendship tokens. Then you just use squeeze on them over a bed and be as lewd as you want. Collect all their bloods.

I invited all the deities to my house and screwed them on the regular while they get drunk and vomit everywhere. Although I don't lewd Ehekatl or Lulwy too much anymore after inviting Kumi and Mani over. That wouldn't be a nice thing to do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:08:11 2016 No.15124324 >>15124138 >>15124250 Huh? Is god-recruiting penalty applied after ini calculation?

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 22:02:06 2016 No.15124503
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>>15124324
Don't know when it's applied but the INI value is bad. I have the inner god version of Ehekatl. Speed and attributes are higher than default due to me training her for a bit but shelving her for other pet projects. May work on her at a future date.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:09:53 2016 No.15124785

>http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Changelog_%28Elona%2B%29
>[Changes affecting only the English version - an *unofficial* list]
> "You have no gag reflex." in the profile has been changed to "Your jokes are terrible.".
FUCKING SJWS ARE CENSORING OUR GAME BROS

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:22:15 2016 No.15124822
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>>15124785
THOSE FUCKING SJWS!!!!!1111 WHAT IF ME OR MY WAIFU ARE SNEKS? THAT'S LIKE DENYING SNEKS EXIST!!!!1111

Seriously though, glad to see more translation corrections. Thanks whoever is responsible.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 03:08:04 2016 No.15125497

>>15124282
Well yeah I guess you can do that too but don't you want naked apron play with Jure while she cooks you breakfast in the morning? How about having them climb into bed with you of their own accord? Becoming the godslayer to tap that. Certainly the Rance of goals in Elona. My goal is more humble. I just want to retire away with my golden knight and live my life as a part time adventurer and part time shopkeeper where I peddle the loot I find and the things I make as a blacksmith.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 03:14:35 2016 No.15125517

>>15125497
Scratch the godslaying part. Seems like you just need to be high enough level to astral pen them. Think you can do that without provoking them. At least, their regular form. Not sure about their inner form. Seems like a very hostile and dangerous mating ritual seeing as I can't imagine them being happy about being defeated prior to that form.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 03:26:17 2016 No.15125552 >>15084114 Isnt this game kinda dead?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 03:32:40 2016 No.15125567 >>15125552 Far from it. Game keeps getting updated with stuff frequently. Then there's Elona Custom that's translating stuff for it and is also adding new features to the game too.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 03:49:36 2016 No.15125626

>>15125517
3 - 4 great gifts (can get cheap gifts from general vendors and use scrolls to change them), half of their level, have enough magic ink, then astral light pen.

Inner gods are doable, the amount of gifts remain the same, main problem is that unless you have equal speed to them, the 4 turns it takes to get them to soul mate is probably enough to kill you.

The Gods are all 350, so you need to be level 175 yourself. (and 35 magic ink iirc) Inner Gods are all 600, so you need to be level 300, and 60 magic ink I think?

In the regular game though it's not that great to use the Astral on them if you're looking for artifact weapons and such, since a lot of the Lost Irva artifacts are locked behind Astral Light Pen recruitment - as in the Gods that drop them don't drop them on death. That with the INI hit and the god recruitment penalty, the Gods are only a choice if you want them for fluff reasons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 05:09:50 2016 No.15125769 >>15125552 The servers are kill. >you will never again see Ray of Gay Jay melting in mines Why live.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 06:04:04 2016 No.15125865 File: 118 KB, 638x229, 1451803347945.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15125769 Most likely his partner or the same person.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 06:06:35 2016 No.15125871 >>15125769 Damn, we will never know what happens to Zyklon Knight White.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 08:23:48 2016 No.15126250 How do enemies scale in this game with your level?

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 08:30:45 2016 No.15126258

>>15126250
Enemies don't scale. Rather harder enemies are introduced based upon the highest level dungeon cleared. Then theres the void where enemies just progressively get stronger the further you go.
You can easily get a better understanding just by playing the game.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 08:34:31 2016 No.15126263
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>>15125626
>can get cheap gifts from general vendors and use scrolls to change them
WHAT
Are you serious?
Why didn't anyone tell me I could just change all my cheap gifts to good ones?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 08:37:27 2016 No.15126267 >>15124785 >Changes affecting only the English version > "You have no gag reflex." in the profile has been changed to "Your jokes are terrible.". WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 08:37:51 2016 No.15126268 >>15126258 >Enemies don't scale. Rather harder enemies are introduced based upon the highest level dungeon cleared. Thank you very much. I'll play the game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 09:13:51 2016 No.15126355 >>15126267 Apparently the "gag reflex" was a mistranslation. The new translation is the japanese meaning. And it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 09:22:04 2016 No.15126374 >>15124785 What's the relationship between terrible jokes and the inability to vomit? I don't understand this change.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 09:34:18 2016 No.15126395 >>15126355 Well I still prefer the previous translation, but I feel better knowing that it was just changed to the original Japanese description. Still stupid though, I like the silly, lewd parts of the game.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 15:59:46 2016 No.15127488

>>15126374
The no gag reflex was an awful translation of the original Japanese. Makes me think it's a machine translation. The word gag can mean mean to retch or it could also mean make jokes. This is where the machine probably tripped up. It looks like it was fixed to convey what was really being said.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 17:11:16 2016 No.15127749

>>15125769
Is that why I can finally read my log now and why my game loads faster on my toaster? I'm fine with them being dead then. It was funny and maybe interesting for a bit but it quickly got annoying as hell as I saw tons of people dying to the same shit and clogging up my log. It's just people dying in the puppy caves, starving in the wilderness, or melting down in the mines. Why do I fucking care after awhile? Glad I can finally see what's happening to my character instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 17:25:15 2016 No.15127787 >>15127749 You could always turn it off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 17:53:46 2016 No.15127922 >>15127749 Actually, why were so many people dying in the puppy cave? Memes aside, it's not a dangerous place. As well, most deaths were to putits. Wtf? Why weren't they dying to Amurdad or adventurers or whatever?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 17:56:58 2016 No.15127938 >>15127922 Kobolds really hurt for a fresh lvl 1-2 character.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 18:00:30 2016 No.15127961

>>15127922
If I had to guess, part of the reason is that not many people even got that far. Of the people that did get that far, I'm sure there were some deaths. The problem is that such deaths flew underneath the radar because an avalanche of deaths from beginners, that most likely would be dying in beginner related areas, buried those deaths in the log.

I've seen a couple of people come up on my log as dying to chaos fort bosses, one of them to Lulwy, and a couple to Zeome and the second continent boss. Had to be paying attention to my log to spot them though. Also, once you get far enough in the game people have probably learned what they can and can't take on and have learned how to survive better so they don't die as often.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 18:18:31 2016 No.15128050

>>15127922
By the time you get to late game, you don't actually die very easily assuming you've actually gotten to Act 3 in any stable fashion. With around 800 speed (the limit Leold can take you to in Act 3) you actually outspeed the majority of level 100 - 130 dungeons and surviving isn't an issue. The tough part is grinding up to 800 speed, and a lot of people just get bored before that, even with the Void being a good place for speed upper pots. If you're into savescumming, there's always the free medal hermes pot graveyard run or temple run that can be done at level 1 to get you to whatever speed you can tolerate grinding to.

Pet masters can get even more ridiculous, as long as you have enough gold to keep your pets potentials up and food to boost their stats, you can get a stat average ratio of 7:1 (stats to level). If you're looking for some gauge of what this looks like - a nerfed level 164 undeadgod Ulzassil has a stat to level ratio of 1.8 to 1. The tough part is grinding out herbs and food, and even that can be savescummed safely if you're into it, since Vernis has the "free herb cave". The less pets you have, the easier keeping this ratio up gets.

Basically, no reason to die later on in act 2 - 3 unless you trying to actively stay as weak as possible to keep the game somewhat challenging. Things change once you hit the 160 - 170 threshold where Gods start spawning in dungeons. An Atlas hits harder than Ulzassil, which is kind of funny.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 18:45:10 2016 No.15128174

>>15128050
To add on to this, a list of common player killing mobs.

In the very early game. Performers and Kobolds can be very nasty since the former has ranged attacks and the latter hits like a truck depending on your race. Slimes can also be terrible since they can melt you down to nothing.

In Act 1 depending on how you build and your equip/resist set up, dragons and casters like Lichs can be terrible depending on whether they can abuse your elemental resists. Without mist of silence for the latter they can get real annoying real quick.

As you start to get into Act 2, things like Bomb Rocks and shit that show up and go boom for 99999 damage can ruin a run. Liches and dragons usually stop being much of a problem, and if you die to them it's a sign you haven't gotten good equipment resists or countermeasures like silence/weaken.

The Yith can be troublesome in the transition between Act 1/2 and late Act 2, but really they aren't that bad if you focus them down instead of letting them do whatever. Xeren Satellite Units/Fighters/Tanks however are pretty dangerous due to their speed and sonic booms.

If you last into Act 3, generally the former enemies become manageable except for things like Bomb Rocks, and if you can do level 100 dungeons, generally 100 - 140 is just a steady climb as you get more health and stats. The performaid bitchiacks can be a real menace with their MP breath though.

Then Atlas and Five Element Dragons start showing up and you're basically in for it if your stats aren't already phenomenal. The threshold where they start showing up, like 150 - 160 range I think is where you're basically looking at end game short of fighting the neutral NPC Gods.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 18:51:41 2016 No.15128198 >>15127938 also if you loiter too much you'll get things like asuras

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 19:02:13 2016 No.15128263

>>15128198
Reminds me how some unlucky low level anon was just loitering around in the wilderness when a Yith creature showed up. I sometimes wonder if Elona is a sentient creature that is truly scheming of ways to end you. Spawning a Yith creature on someone...that's cold Elona.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 19:04:55 2016 No.15128278 File: 350 KB, 548x687, 1461619492627.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pic related is your new character. How do you build her? What's her for now? backstory? Who are her companions? Why do they fight? How do they fight?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 19:12:39 2016 No.15128310 File: 350 KB, 548x687, 1461619492627.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pic related is your new character. How do you build her? What's her(?) backstory? Who are her companions? Why do they fight? How do they fight?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 19:42:10 2016 No.15128457 >>15128050 >free medal hermes pot graveyard run or temple Uh. What are those?

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 20:19:15 2016 No.15128637

>>15128457
Not that anon but I think he's referring to how various maps have hidden gold medals that you have to search for to get. Not exactly sure how save scumming allows you to collect more medals because once you've gotten them that's it. I don't think they respawn or anything. I personally just farm gold medals from dungeon bosses and get my herb seeds from Kumiromi statues. Eventually was able to have enough farms where my diet was completely herbs.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 20:24:15 2016 No.15128657

>>15128310
How is this even possible? Mutant? But why part sheep?

Anyway her backstory was that she's naive but a genius. If I'll add in more than the game offers, she chugged down own of her own potions because she was poor as fuck after being conned one after another and now she's a mutant with 4 legs. Later on she'd grow more hands and carry all the best weapons she can grab while riding a lightning fast kirin. She fights because she has to pay taxes. Her fighting style is shadowstepping in a group of enemies and casting sound ball to obliterate all enemies in her vicinity, her allies would pick out the stragglers.

Its pretty eh, but its impromptu so yeah. Sheep girl magician with multiple hands.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 20:29:56 2016 No.15128684

>>15128657
>How is this even possible? Mutant?

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Sheep

What does she like to do in her spare time? Any hopes? Dreams? How is she with her allies? For backstory I meant something more along everything after 'offers' in your post and before 'Later on'. Basically your own take on her as a potential character.

>Her fighting style is shadowstepping in a group of enemies and casting sound ball to obliterate all enemies in her vicinity, her allies would pick out the stragglers.

So she's a warmage? Where did she learn how to fight like that? I figured her more as an archer. Guess that's just me being prejudiced against sheep-folk.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 20:31:47 2016 No.15128689

>>15128457
You can reset a map entirely by using the enter+delete method. The graveyard has 2 medals, the temple has 3 + 4 herb seeds. Basically what you'd do is run over there early on, get in, grab the medals and whatever loot you want, get out, reset the map, repeat. You can get as many medals as you want this way. When you use enter+delete and reset the map, all the medals get reset as well. Graveyard is generally easier since it's also closer to the dwarves, but the union ground/temple has nice herb seeds.

Some people consider it cheating, but hey, it's a one player game so play it however you want.

It's the same method that you'd use to farm herbs from Vernis's Slime Cave, though that one is much safer since the herbs are really early on. It does get pretty fucking boring though, and might not be the way you want to play the game. Early on, 300 speed is more than enough to outspeed most things. If you somehow grind to the magic 800 number early for some reason, you'll start outspeeding bells. (770 or so)

It's a painful and obnoxious grind in some cases.

>>15128657
Guess you could go the extreme with that and run a full set of horse/kentaur/sheep allies and just pretend you're a flock of supermad sheep terrorizing Nefia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 20:32:08 2016 No.15128692 >>15128684 No. She's a pianist.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 20:48:04 2016 No.15128747

>>15128310
You were a sheep taken care of by your Juere shepherd masters. The Juere are a nomadic warrior culture that prides itself on their survival skills and strength. Unfortunately, or fortunately, a particularly potent ether storm rolled in and it mutated you. Now you're this weird hybrid sheep that took on human characteristics(mutant sheep).

You have two leg slots to take advantage of two pair of boots for your hooves. Aside from that you have normal body slots. From your masters which now treat you like a daughter they never had, you learned how to be a farmer(class). Being raised up a Juere you've learned how to fight as well so you've picked up some melee skills. You left on an adventure to see more of the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 20:50:07 2016 No.15128763 >>15128747 Who has she met on her adventure so far? do you need some inspo.?

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 20:53:44 2016 No.15128792

>>15128684
What do you want to do with this anon? I'll bite anyway since I'm kinda interested.

Like I said before, she's a genius. She's a natural on many fields and that's why she's a jack-of-all-trades, possibly master of everything she's in if you're autistic in playing. Her personality is aloof and sensitive to her surroundings so she's easily influenced. She went poor after making many mistakes in her life and she stumbled on North Tyris soon afterward. I don't really care much about her allies but I guess the little girl is someone she traveled with.
Also yeah, she's a pianist but a mage, but also a warrior, but also a sharpshooter, but also a farmer, etc. Jack of all trades and all that bs.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 20:58:35 2016 No.15128829

>>15128792
Sometimes when you talk about the NPCs you guys seem to add your own touches to their personalities. Implicitly, I mean. Like

>>15124282
This anon has it that Ehe and Lul are in relationships with Kumi and Mani. This implies, to an extent, that they're 1.) hetero and 2.) the whole war with gods business isn't a thing. I'm interested in how your characters interact with the world and how you go about creating stories for your characters. The kind of stories too.

Could also be good for discussion. FWIW: in my headcanon Kumiromi gave birth to all the gods and Opatos is the father.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 21:07:37 2016 No.15128878

>>15128829
A large part of it is because of how disconnected Elona's story is, most of the main plot happens indirectly to you, though your actions have some impact at points. If you're playing in English you never even see most of the story at all.

When you get to the Lost Irva part of things, the Gods start having a bit more significance and the implications are a bit more substantial. Like Mani's Aerial Battleship Fleet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 21:09:34 2016 No.15128896 >>15128878 If you use custom Elona, you would be able to see the cutscenes in english.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 21:16:14 2016 No.15128927

>>15128896
I end up forgetting about Elona+ Custom a lot of the time since I play in Japanese anyways, but yeah Anna has done good work. More relevant to what the other guy was talking about it's neat to go about making up backstories for teams, especially unconventional ones.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 23:48:13 2016 No.15129461

>>15128829
>This anon has it that Ehe and Lul are in relationships with Kumi and Mani
It's true though

Kumi literally has in-game dialogue about Ehekatl. Lulwy literally says that she hates Mani and if you ever talk to Mani's actual character, he questions why Lulwy hates him.

The backstory of the deities and the "war" is out there on forums.
Kumi and Ehekatl used to be a thing. When the first era died off, they escaped to a hidden garden, but Ehekatl eventually went insane. Mani was originally a mortal and the top follower of Lulwy. But he eventually betrayed her to become a Deity, and lost all his memories in the process.

I forget the link to all of this, but it's in the archives of past threads.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 01:46:31 2016 No.15129805

Changing shops is pretty OP right now, most of my stock sold out in one day after switching to Blacksmith. Problem is, I can't keep up with the demand so my shop ends up going empty for days at a time while I'm out in a dungeon. There doesn't seem to be any downsides to changing the type at any time tho.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 07:11:16 2016 No.15130580 >>15129805 Make a shit-ton of spears and dump them in your shop?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 07:20:46 2016 No.15130619 How do you move really heavy stuff without Golden Knight?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 07:29:28 2016 No.15130644 >>15130619 Train your body! Mwahahaha!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 07:45:56 2016 No.15130683 >>15130644 Any other way?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 08:32:36 2016 No.15130767 >>15130683 Train up a melee pet or level up 4-Dimensional pocket. Eat herbs too for stats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 13:11:35 2016 No.15131538 Is Elona+ objectively better?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 13:34:05 2016 No.15131618 >>15131538 Has more content, but balance is fucked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 13:43:55 2016 No.15131651 >>15131618 In what way?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 14:04:59 2016 No.15131729 >>15131651 Elona is about training to become a hardened adventurer. Elona+ is about training to become a super saiyan.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 14:24:19 2016 No.15131803

>>15131538
Imo, it's just got much more stuff to do. Sure the super saiyan business can get ridiculous but there are just more builds that can be tried. Like Necromancy or magic alchemist( rods + potions + the special items from the pot of fusion all melded into a fighting style).

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 16:43:43 2016 No.15132308

>>15131729
>>15131618

That's outright rubbish.
Elona is about forever buffing your rod skill to dominate higher and higher levelled pets.
Elona+ removed a lot of the more 'questionable' strategies/exploits.

All that really changed is more content and what you grind to continue with the higher level dungeons.

Balance is such a sketchy word to use in a single player game with no direct AI opponent.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 17:02:57 2016 No.15132376
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>>15128829
Not the anon you were originally talking to but I just took the background/profile info rolled for my character and fleshed it out. Cross referenced what I came up with with the lore I've picked up in the game to make it fit. Thanks anon who mentioned that you could view all the prior cutscenes you've earned with the playback disk.

Now my character has his own prelude to the events of Elona and through working on backstory, I probably have an idea for a new pet/ally down the line. Considering all the grinding I do, it shouldn't be too hard to spin stories for my pets following the same formula since my mind usually wanders anyhow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 18:19:48 2016 No.15132623 >>15132376 Did you grind music tickets to get that life pumped to 2k or did you grind little sisters? I'm trying to figure out what's the best way to get my life up since I'm still at very pitiful levels right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 18:40:29 2016 No.15132686 >>15130580 It's easier to just switch shops to whatever I have in stock, since the price multiplier total is much greater than the change price.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 18:55:52 2016 No.15132735

>>15132376
God damn... I'm forever farming medals. I realised a while ago that I don't really need to be running awakened dungeons any more considering none of the cores give anything particularly useful. I think I'll be farming the void from now on. Speaking of which big daddies do spawn in the void right? It's been a while and I can't remember.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:04:45 2016 No.15132775 >>15132735 Rarely but I think I've seen one or two in 100 - 200 floors. About the same rate I've seen potions of descent drop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:06:42 2016 No.15132779 >>15132775 Scratch this, wiki says Big Daddies don't even show up at all, and it's probably right.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:09:17 2016 No.15132790

>>15132775
Damn. I was hoping I'd be able to farm little sisters while in the void. In that case perhaps I should just farm normal dungeons and party time quests instead.
What level did you get your summon spirits spell to before you started spamming it at parties? Mine is currently at 150 but it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:13:38 2016 No.15132804 >>15132790 The increase from level on summon spirits is ridiculously low, I don't think you'll see much of a change once you're past level 100 to be honest. How many music tickets are you earning per quest right now?

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:16:51 2016 No.15132812

>>15132790
>>15132804
Actually I think the level increase from summon spirits is really important, especially with all of the multipliers from "magic equip" and enhanced spell equipment. I'm not anon but with level 500 summon spirits you can get around 130k tickets on average with all of the above bonus multipliers.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:19:27 2016 No.15132818

>>15132812
Oh wow level 500? Is there some sort of major jump at some point, I'm not seeing that much of a difference in the low 100 range. I guess I probably need to make a full spell enhance set from the enchant mechanic, that's going to be a lot of rounds of that level 150 quest to get god jewels.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:26:46 2016 No.15132830 If I switch to another guild will I have to do the joining X guild quests again? What about guild rank, does that reset when I leave a guild?

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:30:46 2016 No.15132836

>>15132818
Yea it's unbelievably vital that you get all of the multipliers possible. Basically if you combo all of the multipliers together you get like 10x the amount of tickets you would get normally. Also with higher levels of summon spirits you spend less spell stock so it becomes easier to maintain.

What I did to get higher summon spirit levels was to grind sleep for 300-400% potential, and get alot of learning from divine wisdom, buster book (if you can kill gods), and an etherwind corruption that converts dex/cons into learning/will, so I could get the most exp out of each cast (so that I wouldn't get fucked by wonder scroll luck, which I still did).

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:33:59 2016 No.15132842 >>15132812 Actually since Summon Spirits scales off of player level, do you think that a player with a massive base level but a low level of summon spirits would get a better result than a player with low base level and high summon spirits?

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:39:20 2016 No.15132856

>>15132836
Oh boy that sucks. The character I'm playing isn't spell oriented at all besides using spells for team support like debuffing and healing rain. I'm still at a really low level range due to potion of descents, so the farthest I've gotten boss wise is Yerleswood. Guess it's just slow grind for anyone who isn't a magic user.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:39:40 2016 No.15132858

>>15132842
I mean they both get prohibitively more difficult to level, so it's probably best to level both in tandem, or whichever one you feel like. Because after abour 3 hours of grinding one thing, it's probably gonna get mildly mind numbing. So at least you can look at it as an option to mix things up. They're both fairly important though.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:44:47 2016 No.15132870

>>15132856
Yea ultimately, the whole thing is an extremely lategame oriented method, and you need a healthy amount of resources to be able to maintain it. If you're still in act 2 or something like level 250, I woulnd't worry about it too much. If anything, try to grind out some stats (I'm assuming you're at around 150-200 average?) with herbs or some shit. Ideally you want to kill that chaos boss that drops vital flayer, for nearly maxed spell enhancement.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Vital_Flayer

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:46:59 2016 No.15132875

>>15132858
I think my base level will get pretty high just from grinding the 10m small medals needed to get my entire team's base speed up to 2k. That and getting enough herbed food to keep their stats growing constantly. At this point cash is the only thing I don't need to worry about. It's a pity that the party time rewards don't scale off of performer ranks as much.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:50:49 2016 No.15132883

>>15132870
Yeah mowed down Ulzassil pretty easily, much easier than Yerleswood actually. My entire team is around 175 - 250 stat average, really health is the only "low" stat I have at this point.

I've still got a couple of leftover living weapons from trawling dungeons, so I'll probably stack Spell enhancements on those from artifact fusion then level them for spell enhancement as well. No clue how far that'll get though considering the heart item doesn't say anything about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 19:59:01 2016 No.15132902 Is it worth it to just feed pets curarias/stomaphillias when they're hungry or is it better to save them for herb in?

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:07:05 2016 No.15132922

>>15132883
I mean with vital flayer you only need 300 more spell enhancement (which is about 3 living weapon enchantments), since theres a cap at 2.5x (or +1500 spell enhancement). With enough levels in medium armor, you can get magic equip which is also excellent. You don't have to have medium weight armor all the time, just for party time quests only. You're pretty much there, the rest you just have to grind out.

>>15132875
I personally found the whole small medal grind exceedingly slow. It's definitely viable, but I figured that I'm going to grind out the 2000 life eventually, so I thought I might as well grind out speed uppers with music tickets as well. The thing about music ticket grinding is that it starts slow, but it keeps ramping up indefinitely, so if you have any long term projects like 2k life/2k mana, it's actually pretty feasible to grind out the 2k speed with music tickets as well. For me, speed upper grinding was mildly faster than grinding out medals.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:07:49 2016 No.15132923

>>15132902
If you have a herb farm curarias and stomafillas are generally easy to come by. Herb in recipes are limited more from the "rare" herbs, so if you're just farming normally you'll often end up with plenty of extra curaria/stomafilla.

Keeping up with pets' hunger demands though with herb food is probably something you'll want to leave for when you have a steady supply of herb seeds and such. If you're playing with no savescumming, generally this can get pretty tough until you're in the midgame and have the statue of kumiromi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:09:04 2016 No.15132928 >>15132923 > statue of kumiromi. I have five.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:10:00 2016 No.15132930

>>15132830
Yea you will have to redo all of the guild quests, requirements, and your rank will be reset as far as I know. If you wanna guild hop, try to do all the other guild stuff before settling on your main desired guild at the end.

>>15132902
You will probably have way more stomafillias and curarias than you will have rare herbs, so its generally alright to just use them.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:12:45 2016 No.15132939

>>15132922
I stuck with small medal grinding mostly since it was more thematic character wise (I went for a more Dungeon Meshi feel). Figured that considering the only thing the team really can't take right now are high level Void enemies and other God Folks, I don't necessarily need to optimize the grinding.

That said it'd be real nice to see what kind of health values the Meshera Alpha can get at 2k life. This character and his team really hasn't been "optimal" at all.

I kind of wish there was a mechanic to "reborn" the character so I could drop everyone's levels back down to 1 while keeping their current stats just for amusement. Might just do that on a different save file with elosnack.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:17:08 2016 No.15132958

>>15132928
If you can keep up a steady supply of herbed food for your team then it's better to feed herbed food than simply curaria and stomas, but 5 might not be enough depending on how large your team is. If you're just looking to keep them fed then it should be more than enough. 5 statues will really only get you 5 herb seeds which isn't a lot at all. You might get 1 - 2 rare herbs out of that?

The herbed food make a massive difference if you can keep your pets potentials topped up, but it requires a lot of resources to work.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:30:34 2016 No.15132996

>>15132804
Currently I get an average of about 1.2k per party with the flayer equipped. Filling all the spare slots in a party quest with spirits tends to net another 300 more. Unfortunately magic equip isn't an option due to fairy fun.
I'd not considered casting Divine Wisdom before spamming spirits but I'll have to remember that for next time. I need to put more plat into performer as well just to make sure I can impress high level spirits.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:33:05 2016 No.15133001

>>15132996
Oh in that case, make sure you have alchemical rain. You basically don't bother performing for the spirits themselves (only the unique npcs), and instead you use alchemical rain with a blessed love potion to max out their attraction to you in a single turn. Ideally you want to do this some 50-70 turns before the party time ends, so that they don't go apeshit and start drinking mutation potions and whatnot. You'll notice a large increase in tickets.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:38:04 2016 No.15133020

>>15132958
My two pets can eat herbed curaria at the same rate that I can make it.

>>15132928
For reference I've got 15 statues and 6 of the regrowth gem things. If I were to do it again I'd start getting the gem things earlier in a 1to1 ratio or something after the first few statues.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:41:16 2016 No.15133031 >>15132996 Presumably you spend everything before 50-70 turns killing off everything that isn't a unique NPC? I might try it in a while.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:51:32 2016 No.15133058

>>15133020
I've found that trying to keep pets filled up with herb food generally isn't "smooth sailing" at least until you're done with most of Act 1/Act 2. Getting the food part is generally pretty easy, keeping a giant horde of food isn't the problem once you have 4d pocket or even just a cooler, but once you start hitting more than 6 - 7 pets having enough herbed food is a hassle. With 15 I've found you need massive amounts of dedicated farmland if RNG decides to shaft you.

Then there's the issue of keeping their potential up to superb, but that's a different deal. Thankfully they gain such a massive bonus from herbed food that it's not that big of an issue.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:53:08 2016 No.15133065

>>15133031
Yes. I time it by how many rests I can fit before the end. I get about 8 rests between the "10 minutes left" dialogue and the end of the quest, so I just rest 6 times, divine wisdom, magic equip, spam summon spirits until they no longer spawn, then use alchemical rain with a blessed love potion. Then I just rest one more time and usually that will end the party time quest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 20:54:55 2016 No.15133077 What's the best weapon proficiency in elona+?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 21:23:58 2016 No.15133235 >>15133077 Just about everything is viable, although martial arts got some nice buffs recently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 22:37:15 2016 No.15133528 >>15132623 Tickets (not him btw). It's still a major grind, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 22:45:11 2016 No.15133558 >>15133528 Yeah I figured as much, if every hero cheese only adds like 3 life and you're looking at 35k per cheese. Going to be a hell of a grind, but then again, that's what lategame is anyways.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 22:56:22 2016 No.15133603
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>>15132623
>>15132804
Yes, specifically I grinded music tickets by summoning high level spirits, using alchemy rain to spread the effects of a love potion, and making sure I nabbed all the score multipliers. They're the named NPCs such as Shena, Stoke, Lomias, etc. Nevermind the Candle of Lulwy in the picture. That's a demigod item that is affecting relationship levels but is not necessary for farming the tickets. Hopped on a snail once I impressed everyone to end the party quicker by dropping my speed to 26.

I started farming music tickets this way when my summon spirit was just slightly below lv 300. This is assuming that by then you also have equipment that caps your magic multiplier. You won't be making 100k tickets per show like I'm doing at lv 280ish spirits but it should still be enough to get a good amount of tickets to start farming hero cheese/magic fruit. Beyond lv 280ish spirits expect your earnings to just keep getting better thus making it easier to supply hero cheese/magic fruit to yourself and pets if needed.

To get your summon spirit stock you just farm wonder scrolls, bless them, read them, and hope you get stock for it. I usually consume batches of 100 wonder scrolls scrolls I collect from every invested magic vendor and general vendor(Think that's the vendor type. They don't sell as much scrolls as magic vendors but you can still find wonder scrolls from them sometimes.) on all the continents. Get into a cycle of checking on their stock after say three days of in game Elona time as they do refresh their stocks.

Make sure you fill your home with magic vendors. I have a palace and have 8 magic vendors in it. If you're having problems filling your home with magic vendors it's possible your game has run into a bug where you can't recruit anymore due to vendors having duplicate names. To fix the bug, simply rename your vendors in your home and you should see new magic vendors show up for recruitment eventually.

Lastly, some final thoughts and related info. You do not need to get 2000 life or mana anymore. In the prior versions that was the cap but now the effective cap is 1000. Anymore life and mana beyond 1000 will not help you. I think I started feeling a difference in HP and MP at the 200 mark and by the time I got to 800 I didn't have MP problems anymore.

For a character that chooses to abstain from magic altogether I suppose another way of getting hero cheese and magic fruit is doing the little sister quest and just farming them that way.

Finally, you can get a ton of level ups from destroying batches of high level summoned spirits. I get like six levels in mere seconds at a time by just summoning spirits and meteoring them to death. That's why my level is so high aside form just killing very high level monsters in the void. Of course, the challenge revolves around keeping your stocks up for summon spirit and meteor though.

>>15132735
Think I stopped raising my dungeon at the lv 600 mark but I think you could stop at around lv 500. You get the max chance of Nefia core drops at that level and should have maxed out the amount of gold you can make in a dungeon awhile ago. For farming medals I purposely keep dungeon levels low in relation to my character Ex: lv 500 dungeon is nothing to a lv 5000 character. The chance of medal drops from dungeon boss doesn't seem to care about dungeon level so it's best to just go to low level dungeons where you can clear them in seconds.

Only thing to keep an eye out are for big daddies and bells as they too drop medals. Aside from that, I just zoom to stairwells and beeline to the boss. If I want challenge, AP, and skill/spell level ups I stick to the void.

The Nefia cores might be helpful in building a minor attribute stick. Ex: sword with 100 strength etc. Anything to help you eventually get the real deal if you choose to battle a god and get their weapon. Aside from that, yeah I don't really see myself farming Nefia Cores. Jewel tear of god and the crafted materials used for artifact fusion on the other hand...

>>15133077
Not sure there is a best. So far I've found that all of the combat styles, melee, range, and magic have their shortcomings and certain enemies are easier to fight with one style compared to another.

Due to this, I find that I'm not only a gunner but a caster and magic device/rod user too. I'd like to add a melee skill to my skill set too but I don't have nearly enough bonus skill points and time to farm platinum points to maintain a melee skill. Alas, I leave melee up to my pets and my traveling skill to level up my melee skills for me.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 23:09:27 2016 No.15133650

>>15133603
Nice explanation on your strat, good to know those numbers for life too. Do you know if there's any effective cap on elemental resistances? Wiki is a bit vague in terms of whether there's actually a "hard cap" or not, but I figure if the stats will cap out eventually, then the effect of resistances probably should as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 26 23:22:58 2016 No.15133692 >>15133650 Hmmm... I just saw on rizon IRC server that there's a channel about Elona with 42 people in it. Anyone here ever use that?

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 23:27:59 2016 No.15133702

>>15133650
Not sure if there is a cap or not. Hope there isn't though. I'd like to think I could keep getting enough resist where I could become dim immune, brainwash immune, and possibly insanity immune if the rumors of that is correct about it being tied to mind resist.

Anonymous Tue Apr 26 23:46:30 2016 No.15133771

>>15133692
Didn't even know there was a thread on this on /jp/ myself.

>>15133702
When I tried testing it out with artifact fusion I could hit figures like "Class 20" in a resist, which was around 1000 points, but I have no clue how that translates to actual resistance. I certainly don't see things burning and don't have to use too many blankets anymore. Unfortunately my mind resist is only at around 440 - and I'm still getting brainwashed on occasion. Would insanity be linked to mind or nerve?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 00:14:51 2016 No.15133837 >>15133771 >Didn't even know there was a thread on this on /jp/ myself. THEN HOW ARE YOU HERE, FOUL SORCERER?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 00:45:02 2016 No.15133930 >>15133837 Teleport spell gone wrong.

Anonymous Wed Apr 27 01:11:47 2016 No.15134036
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>>15133771
Your guess is good as mine about whether it's mind or nerve. I hope there is a resist for it but then again as I said, might just be a rumor. Insanity is horrible in the void. Used to be that I would just kill those Yith creatures before I ever got afflicted but I can't really do that in the void with everything having so much HP. It's not too uncommon for me and my pets to come back from the void with deadpan eyes trying to drink away our nightmares at the bar. Probably have the same expression as, "I've seen some shit Jure."

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 01:59:59 2016 No.15134183 >>15134036 Oh boy...I haven't even begun to scrape away at the depths of the Void yet. Can only imagine how bad it can get. If I even see two Atlas right now I'm liable to tell the party to GTFO.

Anonymous Wed Apr 27 13:41:28 2016 No.15135954

Question for Anna if she's around. Love the gambit like tactic system that Custom has in place, but I'm wondering if I have to set in default attack AIs like a "failsafe" target distance = 1 melee attack at the very bottom, or if the custom AI will have a default (if no command is chosen, follow this AI) kind of logic to it.

Right now the way I have it set up I have a MP failsafe command at the very top so nobody kills themselves casting, but I don't know if I need to add in more failsafes so they don't just idle around when no other condition is met.

Anonymous Wed Apr 27 15:18:35 2016 No.15136291

>>15135954
>Question for Anna if she's around. Love the gambit like tactic system that Custom has in place, but I'm wondering if I have to set in default attack AIs like a "failsafe" target distance = 1 melee attack at the very bottom, or if the custom AI will have a default (if no command is chosen, follow this AI) kind of logic to it.

Actually, I kind of like that idea. I mean of there being an option to assign pets a default AI package in one of the tactics slots, and if you want to override them you can just set something higher priority, or move the default AI package to a lower slot.

That would save everyone of having to assign a bunch of mundane stuff to every pet AI, like "run when badly hurt," "don't overcast at -999% mana," etc.

Anonymous Wed Apr 27 16:18:30 2016 No.15136538

>>15136291
I was just asking because I had set up the "safety net" standard for logic (at least, I thought I had) with Self MP <10% (Harvest Mana or Move Away) at the very top to prevent MP suicide and Player Distance >=1 Move Forward at the very bottom for "Just move if you can't do anything else guy".

But it seems that my challenged teammates still have troubles understanding my instructions at odd intervals, so I must be doing something wrong somewhere along the line.

If I understood Anna's blog entry on it the logic would basically go from top down - and check for whether each condition is true or false, if true, attempt to follow through with action, if not possible, move to next until the entire gambit chain is exhausted. Theoretically then with my "Yo guys just move" command they should never have the "HALP I DUNNO WUT DO" message...but evidently that's not the case so I must be doing something wrong, I just dunno what it is.

Oddly enough I tried putting in Target Distance >= 1 Attack (Ranged) and I still get the same "HALP PLS" which leads me to think that they might not even be reaching the end of the gambit chain at all. If somebody with more know how on this can enlighten, much appreciated.

I mean, I know my Meshera Alpha is just a Blobby Flesh Angel with a mad desire to stick her tentacles into monsters, but she can't be that retarded right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 16:41:13 2016 No.15136633 File: 240 KB, 840x525, 47787623_p9_master1200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] already 1 year i miss you, rueken

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 20:22:18 2016 No.15137494 >>15136291 Anna's started making things like the card info etc. eternal resources so that they're not part of the binary. It might be an idea to do with AI packages as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 20:49:03 2016 No.15137638 >>15136633 >rueken ? >>15136538 If you have them set to: if, target, distance > x and they can't see their target for any reason then..."BUFF PLS, MINDFLAYER. LEAN IN YOU SAY? KK"

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 21:36:50 2016 No.15137838 >>15137638 Think I can solve that with a Last command line like Player Distance >=1 Move or will it just hang up when it gets to the part where it can't find anything?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 27 22:08:02 2016 No.15137913 >>15137638 Elona artist. Died last year.

Anonymous Thu Apr 28 04:12:12 2016 No.15138985

>>15136538
>Oddly enough I tried putting in Target Distance >= 1 Attack (Ranged) and I still get the same "HALP PLS"
As far as Custom AI is concerned, pet ranged actions (be it ranged attacks or magic/ability) are currently capped at 5 squares from their position, so if your pet's target is at 6 or more squares away, either it will attempt to execute the next action slot or cry HALP PLS if there's none.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 04:56:52 2016 No.15139105 >>15137913 Of what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 06:15:37 2016 No.15139260 File: 444 KB, 1252x788, Attack distance.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15138985 >5 squares Was it changed recently? Last time I did the testing it was working well with 7.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 06:22:12 2016 No.15139283 >>15139260 Well 7 or 5 I guess I just need a failsafe bottom command that isn't range dependent. Didn't know that they had that sort of restriction in any case, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 08:11:25 2016 No.15139510 File: 81 KB, 409x406, 1370758834756.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >been rerolling aliases for about an hour now Seriously, this is the hardest thing to do when making a new character.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 09:07:34 2016 No.15139633 >>15139510 I heard you can just customise it with elosnack or the like. Never tried it myself though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 09:15:59 2016 No.15139655 >>15139510 I do the same and generally end up elosnacking this great alias I had on one of my first chars.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 09:17:13 2016 No.15139658 >>15139633 Yup, it's in the player alias line in cdata, pretty easy to find.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 09:40:37 2016 No.15139718 When you learn mutation you're going to be in for a wild ride.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 11:05:02 2016 No.15139943 Does herbed food get anything from potential?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 11:27:04 2016 No.15139991 >>15139943 Herbed food will lower your potential and raise your stats if that's what you're asking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 11:30:02 2016 No.15139994 >>15139991 I want to know whether I should drink potions of potential before eating or afterwards?

Anonymous Thu Apr 28 11:49:13 2016 No.15140039

>>15139994
Assuming you don't have lots of herbed food compared to potions of potential it's probably best to get all your potentials to at least superb before eating your herbed food and while eating your stack try and keep your potential at a minimum of superb.

Getting lots of potions of potential is relatively easy compared to getting lots of herbed food.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 13:48:07 2016 No.15140384 >>15139633 But where's the thrill in that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 15:20:13 2016 No.15140723 >>15140384 It's the thrill of a less well informed person wondering how you managed to roll the alias DICKY McDICKERS THEFIRST. Or at least it used to be till chat went down.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 16:11:59 2016 No.15140882 >>15139510 >not picking a random shitty alias and building a character around that name /tg/ is laughing at us, bros.

Anonymous Thu Apr 28 16:12:03 2016 No.15140883

>>15139510
I wouldn't worry about aliases when creating a character. You can always change them later in the game with a spell of mutation. I used to spend a long time rolling aliases too but that changed when I noticed myself and others rarely amount to what some of the aliases say like the perfect x, the best y, glorious z. It was pretty cringeworthy for me to see these grand aliases wasted on people that were absolute fuck ups in the game or would quit very early. I just take humble aliases and if that character actually amounted to something then maybe I'd change the alias into something better with the mutation spell.

Anonymous Thu Apr 28 16:58:24 2016 No.15141031

>>15140883
The Fabulous Stephen Fry was killed by a slime in the mines. "Scut"
The Fabulous Stephen Fry was killed by a slime in the mines. "..."
The Fabulous Stephen Fry melted in the mines. " "
The Fabulous Stephen Fry was killed by a slime in the mines. "Scut"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 20:32:40 2016 No.15141708 Someone really ought to make a new server for the chat system. I'm starting to miss it a lot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 28 21:04:07 2016 No.15141780 >>15141708 'After tax season,' dude. Give it time, message Jdstroy on the wikipost/his wall or work on it yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 02:03:11 2016 No.15142708 >>15141780 It's been almost two weeks since the end of tax season tho.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 02:56:14 2016 No.15142863 If you plant cursed seeds does that guarantee cursed plants? Also if you use a cursed herb in the herb plant, not as base, but like the rare one, does it do anything bad?

Anonymous Fri Apr 29 03:19:29 2016 No.15142910

>>15142863
Don't know myself. Perhaps you could run the experiment yourself and report back? I wonder why you would chance anything bad happening though. Instead of throwing out cursed herbs or seeds and eating them for that matter, just bless them instead?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 03:24:14 2016 No.15142919 >>15142910 Yeah, I guess it is possible to just keep and bless them, should've thought of that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 29 03:34:00 2016 No.15142943 >>15142863 I've tried using cursed rare herbs before in blend, and it didn't seem to affect the output, but there's really no reason not to bless the final food in any case so I didn't really care at the time.

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