What Went Wrong?

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Anonymous Sun Feb 28 16:28:26 2016 No.14848951 [Reply] [Original]

What
Went
Wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 28 16:36:51 2016 No.14849003 >Not enough Koreans ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 28 16:45:47 2016 No.14849063 >>14848951 Using Adobe Flash in fucking 2016

Anonymous Sun Feb 28 16:46:23 2016 No.14849067

>>14848951
Requiring accounts
Economy mode
Not letting you skip to later in the video
Flash based player
Sometimes videos just refuse to play
Filesize limits
Everything about their livestream service

At least their compression doesn't rape the video's quality like Youtube does, so that's a point in favor I guess

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 28 18:57:35 2016 No.14849693 Typical japanese retarded monetization scheme (pay to contribute).

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 04:38:24 2016 No.14852566 >>14848951 Slow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 05:12:57 2016 No.14852775 Everything. Japs still have a 1994 understanding of how to design websites.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 05:54:36 2016 No.14853014 >>14849067 >>14849693 Would you people prefer the Youtube monetization scheme?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 06:29:21 2016 No.14853145 I fucking hate how popular those anime voices have become I can't enjoy anything anymore because they use that crap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 06:37:19 2016 No.14853180 >>14848951 Nothing's wrong. Go back to /v/. >>14853145 What, the SofTalk voice they use for yukkuris and stuff?

Anonymous Mon Feb 29 06:37:46 2016 No.14853185

>>14848951
Almost all the videos I watch are from years ago because I always sort by views.

If there's a problem with the community I don't know it because I don't do anything besides sometimes watch comments scroll by, the closest I've ever come to it is following MMD cup once in a while.

>>	. exe Mon Feb 29 09:23:20 2016 No.14853726 >>14848951 The video is laggy I can't watch Flandre dancing Mmd is good frames

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 12:56:10 2016 No.14854487 >>14853180 Bouyomi-chan isn't it? I know that's the software they use for the niconico comment-to-speech stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 13:00:45 2016 No.14854505 >>14848951 It's inferior to youtube in almost every way..

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 29 14:39:06 2016 No.14854856 Can you stream here if you don't pay for premium? Or must you pay the 500 yen a month to stream?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 17:40:05 2016 No.14860816 >>14848951 The community is just too small. I still love watching 実況動画 on Niconico though. Let's play videos on youtube can't compare.

Anonymous Tue Mar 1 18:01:31 2016 No.14860888

>>14848951
In terms of pure technical capacity it's a loser to YouTube on the video front and Twitch for live streaming, but I still like the creative community.

I also like stalking JK streams and you don't get those elsewhere. (Technically my favorite streamer lost the JK brand yesterday but I'll keep following her anyway, 卒業おめ)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 18:02:05 2016 No.14860893 What went right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 18:08:37 2016 No.14860920 >>14860893 the wwww's flying past the screen

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 18:09:55 2016 No.14860928 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDdgdlc4gW0 Does anyone know her nico community?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 1 18:28:38 2016 No.14861004 >>14860893 danmaku

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 20:23:19 2016 No.14866458 >>14853014 Yes. Because I don't have to pay for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 20:32:43 2016 No.14866478 >>14854487 Is that the same voice you can hear in the background as that guy's house burns down?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 22:02:24 2016 No.14866808 Splatoon and Mario Maker shilling

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 2 23:47:09 2016 No.14867118 >>14848951 You say it like it can't be redeemed

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 01:34:08 2016 No.14867402 >>14866458 Try turning adblock off for a while and using Youtube. It's fucking impossible and I hate it. I'm sure if it were impossible to block ads more people would make a point of not using Youtube.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 01:53:04 2016 No.14867469 >>14867402 When advertisements were first put on television in the soviet union, many people saw them as convenient tea breaks, and didn't watch them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 10:08:54 2016 No.14868995 >>14860893 tags, Nicopedia, category rankings, public video stats

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 11:22:23 2016 No.14869197 >>14867469 Youtube ads actually require you to click something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 11:25:43 2016 No.14869204 kikes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 11:29:46 2016 No.14869217 >>14869197 Did you forget the video ads you have to watch for a few seconds before being able to watch what you want?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 14:40:50 2016 No.14869893 File: 195 KB, 985x485, 1456977348006.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14848951 flash

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 15:30:44 2016 No.14870052 >>14869197 When? I don't have any plugins installed but never recall clicking on an ad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 15:59:22 2016 No.14870181 >>14870052 He probably means a "click here after x seconds if you wish to skip the rest of the ad"

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 17:19:27 2016 No.14870421 >>14870181 I wouldn't be able to finish pouring my tea if I was clicking things.

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 17:34:36 2016 No.14870465
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>>14848951
terrible buffer times. Can't play more than 1 video at a time without it taking about 10 minutes to load both videos. It's faster to download the fucking video on you computer then to let it buffer

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 19:17:41 2016 No.14870905 >>14866478 Yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 20:16:32 2016 No.14871177 >>14853014 Yes, because you still don't need a fucking account just to watch the video.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 20:26:17 2016 No.14871221 >>14871177 Is your opposition to this a principled stand against registration, or is it just inconvenient for you?

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 20:32:20 2016 No.14871261
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>>14853185
>years ago because I always sort by views
YouTube keeps raising the bar for views - remember when Avril Lavigne's "Girlfriend" was super popular with 25 million hits?
Nowadays any Vevo release has 100 millions with ease, and you can start considering it a success if it hits 500 millions.

Sorting by views and getting old content might mean the community keeps dropping.

Where are the japs, then?

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:23:49 2016 No.14871647

>>14848951
Slow
Not enough payment options, fuck paypal
Congestion

I don't mind having an account since it makes it more exclusive and I'm also okay with NND charging once a month for premium (I wish it was cheaper like $3 instead). I'd rather pay than deal with ads like with Youtube.

Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:54:30 2016 No.14871762

>>14853185
>>14871261

You should sort by Mylists. Always.

Anyway, Niconico is perfect for me except for the dated player and free accounts.

I mean, look at this: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28345092

>bitrate: 649 kb/s
>Stream #0:0(und): Video: h264 (High) (avc1 / 0x31637661), yuv420p(tv, smpte170m/unknown/unknown), 1280x720, 520 kb/s
> Stream #0:1(und): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 125 kb/s

The audio is OK, but that video bitrate is unnecessarily constricting, and more limiting than Youtube in 2010, yet alone today.

Furthermore, the author should of made it 480p to conserve quality, but the encoding was left in their hands. Usually, I think this is a good thing, because you can make a high detail render on Niconico without worrying about re-encoding. However, the 700kb/s and 40MB limit for free users, and the 100MB limit for Premium users is damned limiting in this day and age.

When I reupload videos, I usually have to run them through avisynth to make them presentable on Youtube because of encoding oddities and artificially low resolutions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:55:30 2016 No.14871765 >>14871261 >>14853185 How do I sort by views

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 22:57:43 2016 No.14871775 >>14871762 In comparison, a video that is very well-encoded: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28344253

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 3 23:41:16 2016 No.14871893 >>14854856 You have to pay to stream.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 02:50:02 2016 No.14872678 >>14871762 What needs to be bigger than 100mb? A whole fucking movie?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 03:12:32 2016 No.14872720 File: 48 KB, 1031x147, filesizes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14872678 Anon, the file size of some of the videos they upload can have some really outrageous numbers.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 03:23:22 2016 No.14872747

>>14872720
That's because they're in ridiculous resolutions with ridiculous frame rates. They might as well just distribute the models and dance files if they're going to use 300mb for a 5 minute segment.

Also fuck all those songs. (The hell is that last file though?)

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 05:51:35 2016 No.14873124

How is NicoNico on copyrighted material?
I know Japan in general is strict on Piracy, but what about using snippets of animu and games?

Can people upload fandubs, fansings and whatnot? I see it a lot during streams, but not so much when it comes to uplodaded videos.

Are takedowns frequent? Efficient?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 05:57:14 2016 No.14873131 >>14873124 It depends on the anime. I know Fuji TV are one of the stricter ones when it comes to taking down their stuff. It's miles better than Youtube though.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 10:18:33 2016 No.14873747

Just as an example of how fucked up the site is, today I tried to upload a video but since I was using the English version of the site, it wouldn't let me upload it, I had to switch to the Japanese version to do it.
After the video finished uploading, it showed me an error message and took me back to my profile page, with the video nowhere to be found.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 12:30:33 2016 No.14874125 >>14873747 I wish every Japanese site treated English speakers that way. Upload western trash to western sites

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 14:34:57 2016 No.14874539 >>14873747 It was intended to keep non-speakers segregated. If you read the Japanese docs, the process is pretty simple.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 19:51:12 2016 No.14875804 >>14854856 Don't non-premium have to make a new video and reset the stream every half hour?

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 20:13:39 2016 No.14875941

>>14871221
It's inconvenient for everyone, what if you just want to share a video with someone who hadn't heard of the site ever in their lives? They have to go through the process of making an account just to watch a video on a site they will probably never use again.

Anonymous Fri Mar 4 20:37:06 2016 No.14876050

>>14875941
You should question yourself as to why you want to share the video with them and why they wouldn't already have an account if they were interested at all in the material you were going to show them. If they're never going to use the site again, they most likely won't enjoy your video and you shouldn't be trying to send it to them in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 21:25:16 2016 No.14876288 >>14876050 I'm on with this faggot, look what happened to this site when people started to share our shit with facebook.everythign went to shit snd it's exclusively your fault anons.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 4 21:41:20 2016 No.14876352 >>14875804 Yes >>14875941 >It's inconvenient for everyone, what if you just want to share a video with someone who hadn't heard of the site ever in their lives? Reupload to Youtube (or Bilibili if you are Chinese), like everyone else does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 01:04:48 2016 No.14877100 File: 200 KB, 1280x720, eronas_20151216221128230.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14872747 It's this thing. I find it more humorous than erotic to be quite honest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 5 19:53:27 2016 No.14880678 まあ、このレベルの議論してるうちはニコ動の良さはわからんだろうな（確信）

Anonymous Sun Mar 6 01:17:56 2016 No.14881866

>>14849067
>At least their compression doesn't rape the video's quality like Youtube does
Triggered.
Youtube allows souce uploads.
NND is 40mb 600kbps 1280x720 max for free accounts, 100 ∞ ∞ (in theory) for premium.
These threads are nothing but computer-illiterate poorfags bitching about nothing, anyway.

Anonymous Sun Mar 6 01:26:14 2016 No.14881894

>>14871647
Abenomics raised the price to 540￥ / $4.7454, which is still very much lower than competing sites.
Speed issues are legitimate complaints, only because they throttle non jp connections, but you should still be getting 1-3MBps. Jp speeds are as fast as the tubes allow; easiliy solved by using a vpn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 01:28:00 2016 No.14881904 >>14871762 http://qa.nicovideo.jp/faq/show/820

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 6 23:50:26 2016 No.14886145 http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv255173251 I don't know op but here's what went right. So fucking cute

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 05:34:50 2016 No.14886978 >>14849067 >being so cheap you can't pay the tiny bit of money >crying about the all the mentioned because you didn't pay the tiny little bit of yen >being that salty

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 06:06:43 2016 No.14887046 Your Slot Has Been Taken By A Premium Viewer

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 06:14:48 2016 No.14887060 >>14887046 So has your spacebar, I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 06:33:50 2016 No.14887089 >>14887046 Lucky I am a premium member, so ha.

Anonymous Mon Mar 7 07:27:37 2016 No.14887233 [DELETED]

>>14866458
You pay for it, but not with money.
The youtube model is based on targeting their entire website at retards who are:
A. Too tech illiterate to install a decent adblock
B. Half the free time and stupidity to spend hours every day doing nothing but watching youtube videos
...which just so happens to be the 13 year old boys demographic.
So now Youtube's entire business scheme and website design are geared towards making it attractive to said 13 year old boys and promoting content these 13 year old boys would enjoy. This is where dumb features like autoplay, "Recommended for you" and "Watch it again" come from. It's why youtube's default comment sorting is so retarded, and why shit like the "Trending" page and "Music" category exist. Channels like smosh and finebros are what rakes in all the money, so google made a website that accommodates them.

Say what you will about NND (especially in recent years), at least they still function like a video sharing website and not some poor imitation of kids' TV. They know what they want to do and what niche they want to fill, they set out to do it, and for the most part they succeed. You, dumb gaijin, are not their target demographic. You should feel thankful they don't just block all non-Japanese IPs and be done with it.
When the userbase (and moreover - the HARDCORE users who willing to pay a monthly fee) is your main source of income, you'll be doing what you can to appeal to them and do what good for the userbase rather than the whims and demands of faceless corporations and ad-generators. Just like in 4chan, I'd rather have this shitty captcha/pass system than have google dictate what the website should be.

Anonymous Mon Mar 7 07:30:11 2016 No.14887247

>>14866458
You pay for it, but not with money.
The youtube model is based on targeting their entire website at retards who are:
A. Too tech illiterate to install a decent adblock
B. Have the free time and stupidity to spend hours every day doing nothing but watching youtube videos
...which just so happens to be the 13 year old boys demographic.
So now Youtube's entire business model and website design are geared towards making it attractive to said 13 year old boys and promoting content these 13 year old boys would enjoy. This is where dumb features like autoplay, "Recommended for you" and "Watch it again" come from. It's why youtube's default comment sorting is so retarded, and why shit like the "Trending" page and "Music" category exist. Channels like smosh and finebros are what rakes in all the money, so google made a website that accommodates them.

Say what you will about NND (especially in recent years), at least they still function like a video sharing website and not some poor imitation of kids' TV. They know what they want to do and what niche they want to fill, they set out to do it, and for the most part they succeed. You, dumb gaijin, are not their target demographic. You should feel thankful they don't just block all non-Japanese IPs and be done with it.
When the userbase (and moreover - the HARDCORE users who are willing to pay a monthly fee) is your main source of income, you'll be doing what you can to appeal to them and do what's good for the users, rather than the whims and demands of faceless corporations and ad-generators. Just like in 4chan, I'd rather have this shitty captcha/pass system than have google dictate what the website should be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 07:56:01 2016 No.14887326 Shitty servers.

Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:25:13 2016 No.14890486

>>14887247
Counter-argument:
You don't have to watch the videos that Youtube recommends to you, and you can subscribe to channels you do like and search for videos which are not pushed by Youtube.

Also, you can upload 4K60fps 20+ GB on Youtube for free, and you only take a slight hit in encoding quality.

Yeah, Youtube is not made for the 4chan/2channel crowd, but it doesn't actively try to remove content which isn't R-18.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 7 21:49:15 2016 No.14890605 >>14848951 It's amazing how it feels like they haven't improved their shitty player or site at all in the past 8 or so years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 03:02:24 2016 No.14891558 >>14887247 What amazing wall of bullshit. The captcha is ran by Google anyways, so good job teaching machines to replace us.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 8 09:27:28 2016 No.14892550 big shita red あほくさ big shita red あほくさ big shita red あ　ほ　く　さ

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 02:30:49 2016 No.14896644 >>14886145 I become curious about the guy's video because he claims it is cute. I eargerly click on it. >You need to register as a member to use Nico Live >SIGN IN >LOGIN That's what went wrong

Anonymous Wed Mar 9 20:29:44 2016 No.14900051

>>14896644
Niconico was originally a comment wrapper for Youtube. When Youtube cut the plug, the developers had to come up with a way to share videos while minimizing bandwidth.

This is one of those byproducts that remains a "feature," along with:
1. 100MB/40MB video limit
2. Low-quality mode
3. Users responsible for proper encoding

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 21:13:27 2016 No.14900187 >>14900051 Just because it was a necessity once is no justification for maintaining retarded restrictions

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 21:15:27 2016 No.14900199 >>14900187 Retarded might be different for the NND userbase. Why don't all boards allow audio webms, which is only an artificial restriction by 4chan mods.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 22:01:25 2016 No.14900365 >>14900199 I don't pretend that isn't retarded as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 9 23:59:00 2016 No.14900693 >>14900365 it would change the nature of the boards pretty substantially, and consequently change the userbase perhaps the website doesnt want to change, perhaps they do not want to make it easier for people to upload or watch

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 10 12:22:52 2016 No.14902793 見とけよ見とけよ～ http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28322152

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 10 17:12:45 2016 No.14903643 >>14849063 >Using Adobe Flash in fucking 2016 I don't know why. Flash players work much better than HTML5 crap. Flash bashing for no reason without understanding is just sad.

Anonymous Fri Mar 11 02:38:21 2016 No.14905660

>>14902793
I feel like that is only funny if you are Japanese. Like, I know its literally 2ch Oji-san shitposting, but it does not seem inherently funny.

>>14903643
>I don't know why. Flash players work much better than HTML5 crap.
HTML5 usually just gives the video directly to the browser, unless the host implements DRM.

If your HTML5 video is shit, its probably some in-house player. Do you have an example?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 00:19:08 2016 No.14915407 See the article ニコニコ動画はいかなる点で特異なのか by 濱野智史

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 01:20:01 2016 No.14915559 File: 110 KB, 640x360, 目.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can you still download videos from Nico? The website I usually use is giving me an error now.

Anonymous Sun Mar 13 18:44:44 2016 No.14918371 [DELETED]

>>14900693
Very much this!

I kinda wish 4chan did this as well.
Never caved to shitty FYAD kiddies and world2ch.

Everyone would still be in trip and give zero shits about stupid anonymous discussion.
This site was never for serious discussion! It was for shitposting about anime and sharing hentai.
And more to the point, everyone would still be having fun.

When this site switched from trip-majority to anonymous-majority, it lost its community.
This sites users knew what made each other happy, made each other laugh.
Now? Practically every single board is a constant war with its 20+ separate communities.
4chan is not a community site any more, it is a content site. Those are always inferior.

/f/, at least up until recently, was mostly free of newshitposters, simply because the entry-level to have your own thread was higher than other boards.
The reason this site is so shit is me-too faggots wanting to have their own shit threads 24/7, filling the boards with nothing but nonsense.

NND making things easier would ruin its community.

tl;dr keep secret clubs secret!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:29:25 2016 No.14919271 >>14918371 I agree with you except in the trip part, in a discussion in a site like this doesn't matter who you are but what you say, share, create, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 22:47:51 2016 No.14919334 >>14915559 I use the the niconico audio extractor (extracts video too) extension on chrome and it still works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 23:00:31 2016 No.14919379 >>14918371 I read half of your post believing it was irony. Holy shit, just leave already along with the "good" times.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 13 23:09:06 2016 No.14919415 >>14919334 Just tried it and it works, thanks. I tried using http://www.vid-dl.net/ and Nicofox firefox addon and neither of them worked so I thought it was something on Nico's end.

Anonymous Sun Mar 13 23:45:25 2016 No.14919574 [DELETED]

>>14919379
If you don't think things are worse now than they were before you haven't been here long enough. The jay in particular has crumbled. Nothing is funny anymore. We don't have winsome personalities like wtH-kun or sion or QC or the white ren army or the onion smuggler. It's just a bunch of isolated generals and shitposting, and the tone of touhou threads has taken a sharp nosedive away from comfy appreciation and towards "9/10 posts in this thread are 'I want to rape X' with no interaction with other posters."
I don't even know why I'm here anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 00:02:34 2016 No.14919652 File: 57 KB, 369x405, 1384444301724.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14919574 >We don't have winsome personalities like wtH-kun or sion What the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 00:08:17 2016 No.14919679 >>14919652 How the HELL could you not like wtH-kun? Sion, maybe, but they were all just rascals. squid was shit though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 02:36:44 2016 No.14920076 >>14919574 Generals kill 4chan. People don't know how to start a thread that isn't a general. People say "touhou general thread" instead of "hey, today I beat X on hard for the first time"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 05:07:20 2016 No.14920482 >>14920076 We've finally succeeded in warding off out all the newfags and bloggers so there's nobody left to make threads for us except the people mass-manufacturing "X a cute" threads

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 06:06:37 2016 No.14920646 [DELETED]

>>14919271
This site never NEEDED anonymous discussion, and was never wanted by most of the site.
The only kiddies that wanted that stupid shit were the actual weebs (world2ch cunts) and FYAD for their epic shitposting.

Everyone else hated the concept.
Nobody bothered much if people never used a trip, but they never sperged over it like anonymous users do today when they see a tripcode.
Anonymous users ruin 99% of threads for varying values of 100%.

This site was a split from a forum, IRC and another forums communities. The fuck makes you think they wanted anonymous discussion?
They just wanted another place to shitpost and discuss anime and hentai and it went from there.

Christ, some of this community used to be literally "anime club" (yeah, THAT video).
RIP /con/.

>>14920482
>>14919574
This.

Everyone that actually made shit in the community, for the most part, left because users were so hostile to the concept of identity.
Fuck Anonymous, it ruined this site.
People are even hostile to the proper uses of tripcodes in an anonymous discussion community.

This sites community were more creative in the first few years than every year up till now combined.
The content WAS shit, but it was our shit.
Now practically every board can only steal content from every other generic content site, which is exactly what 4chan is now.
As moot called it, a meme factory.
Literally zero difference between here and something like icanhaz websites or 9kek.

>>14920076
Generals were literally an enforced rule at a time, it is called "stop making duplicate threads you mongs".
The fact it gained a different name changes nothing.

The fact there are boards on this site that have communities that cannot discuss a topic properly without sperging over each others dicks because it says "general" in the title is proof that the community itself is the problem.
All these me-too kiddies making their own threads so they can be part of the epic 4chins "community". (there is no community, just warring communities)

That was proof enough for me to never go to /a/ ever again after that craptastrophe.
Even /v/ could talk in generals like normal people. (outside of shit threads like anything e-sports, sports-like banter is the height of faggotry)
Now /v/ is as worthless as /a/ is thanks to /vg/, you know, that place where people go to actually talk about games.

There used to be a time where not a SINGLE person would freak out over bans, or moot and mods talking in threads.
When forced anonymous happened, and invisible moderation, this site completely changed hands in the space of a year. The driver was now a bumbling fucktard with ADHD. (and moot sans Snacks, the only person that kept this fucking site sane because the rest of the mods were pussywhipped cowards)

Is the site unusable? No.
Is it immensely worse than it used to be? 200%.
That is why most of the older faggots split to their own boards and communities.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 08:39:12 2016 No.14920932 [DELETED]

>>14919574
What drew me to /jp/ first at the beginning was that it felt like a community. Now it's just a place to talk about things. Not that there's anything wrong with talking about things (high quality on-topic discussion!), but in my mind it's not any different than any number of places you could talk about things anymore.

I might have been able to accept that change if it actually resulted in an increase in the amount of high-quality on-topic discussion, but it didn't even do that. (And to begin with I'm a little bit suspicious of that ideal anyway, because if what you really wanted was to learn more about any given /jp/ hobby you would be far, far better served reading various Japanese sources than talking about it in /jp/. People come here because they enjoy socializing.)

>I don't even know why I'm here anymore.
I've spent too much time here to leave and was too antisocial and/or elitist to join any number of small communities that have popped up over the years.

>>14920646
Hostility towards identity is one thing, but I think that there's an even larger overarching problem of hostility towards, well, everything. In a place where people reflexively act like assholes towards everyone it's much easier to tear things down than build anything up. Everything has to be perfect or it's going to get totally ripped apart.

The ideal is that everything would therefore become perfect but this never actually happens, and the end result is that everybody just ends up posting in safe, sterile patterns. Do anything weird and you're a "bad poster," and we can't have that. Fun must be carefully rationed out, or else it's cancerous shitposting. Sometimes I feel like the pressure to conform is even stronger here than it is in supposedly more oppressive communities. The whole place has been overcome with this weird-ass anonymous version of the Law of Jante.

(The really dangerous thing about Jante is that all the principles sound like great rules for making sure that nobody acts like a fuckwit, and it's hard to criticize them without sounding like you're out to deliberately shit on the community or simply a clueless outsider. The net effect, of course, suppresses expression more neatly than any set of actual laws. I guess there are plenty of people here who do idolize that kind of collective-minded thinking in Japan.)

>invisible moderation
The shift to strictly rules-based, strongly enforced, invisible moderation has always bothered me. It's hard for to argue against but I really haven't been happy with the results except maybe that it's easier to keep out certain kinds of undesirable posters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 10:25:18 2016 No.14921155 The player is basically unusable. Very slow, buffering, cannot skip... If youtube implements chat overlay and proper live, then I'd have no reason to go to niconico.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 10:30:36 2016 No.14921172 [DELETED]

>>14919679
I'm glad wtH is dead. Hope he's burning in hell right now. Also the board is still better than 2012. Maybe you should start actually caring about otaku culture and you might have some fun in the VN or mobage general. After all, otaku culture is all over the latter these days.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 11:23:15 2016 No.14921267 [DELETED]

ITT: Fags who want 4chan to be a /soc/ forum instead of a weeb imageboard.

The point of 4chan is to
>Post images
>Discuss on topic content
>Be able to do so anonymously

It is not a hang out club for a group of friends to talk about what the fuck ever. That is what IRC and normal forums are for. /jp/ is at its best now because people are talking about on topic stuff instead of making random posts about stupid unfunny shit. Honestly, I've been here since 2004, and while I admit /jp/ sort of felt like old /b/ at the beginning, that's not /jp/'s purpose. Furthermore, everyone who whines about current /jp/ just wants to go back to circlejerking in their Saten cocksucking threads like those are better than the content in generals. I don't know why you lot think daily/hourly dose threads are amazing original content and generals are pure AIDS.

4chan's problem is people who think it is a meme factory and trolling training ground. /jp/'s elitism is what's kept it from going to shit. They way /jp/ is now is better than /v/a/vg/b/ and all the other shitty boards. If you need to have random shit all over the board to enjoy it, it might be time to migrate to /s4s/.

>>14920932
>too antisocial
Here's your problem. You can't stand people having peaceful communication, so you need to be disruptive with shitposts and then get angry when people call them out on being worthless tripe that you should have spent the time killing yourself instead of posting.

Fun is Rika Nipah. Fun is not the 10,000th hoopdog thread. I don't even know why people got into posting the same shit over and over in its own thread instead of using them as funny reference. (e.g. how people use "for you")

>invisible moderation
This is a necessary evil, like the captcha. Dumbasses who have personal vendettas against moderators and will tie them to a name made it necessary. The same dumbasses who led to it us being unable to delete threads on /jp/ and having a huge timer between threads.

Also trip users were always faggots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 11:33:49 2016 No.14921301 >>14921267 B-but muh corndog! Muh "good bye...sorry..."! Muh nocturnes! Muh jones epic who are you quoting memes! Muh Sudo! Muh NSJ! Muh Tokiko! Muh JANNY! Muh NIGGY! W-why do you hate fun?? I miss old /jp/ so much.....

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 11:34:20 2016 No.14921304 jesus christ this thread went to shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 11:36:16 2016 No.14921309 >>14921304 Look at the thread's memetic OP and tell me it wasn't shit from the start.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 11:41:36 2016 No.14921331 >>14921309 I'd rather have a memetic OP than hoards of dumb teenagers writing entire scrolls of meta shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 11:43:21 2016 No.14921336 >>14921331 This.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 12:48:13 2016 No.14921569 [DELETED]

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>>14921155
Youtube had a pseudo-chat overlay once.
It was hilariously abused.

It let viewers make their own "annotations" on top of videos. It might even still exist.
It basically led to full-video annotations at the maximum time they can stay open (forgot how long, 5 seconds I think)

>>14921267
>to do so anonymously
That means without login. That is ALL it has ever meant.
You anonfucks corrupted the meaning.

If you were here from 2004, you would know this site was perfectly fine while in trips for the first few years before it started falling out of favour for all the massive influx of new people from hearing about Habbo raids from 2006 onwards.
Before then the new users were manageable and actually lurked instead of shitfisting their way in.

You are absolutely correct in that it IS Elitism that kept this place sane.
People coming in posting with a trip were EASY to single out because you actually had an ID.

But, of course, the thing lost on people is trips are JUST AS Anonymous as Anonymous posting is.
I had 20 trips since 2004. Last actively used one was a gamedev one in 2013 before /agdg/ went to shit.

Equally the constant forced shitposting that you speak of never really started until forced anonymous happened on /b/.
The only other problem were DESU spamming fags from /a/ because they were mad over being kicked out of /b/.

Also, you can still have anonymous and visible moderation.
The moderation being 100% invisible means 90% of the users of this site will never know what is bad because, lets face it, nobody reads the damn rules.

Lookit, lookit, /v/ was completely fine.
After /b/tards fled from /v/ in 2007 because of Chanology, /v/ died in a month.
/v/ was this picture from the start till that point.
As were most boards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 12:55:28 2016 No.14921593 >>14921569 What sort of game have you been/are you still working on?

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 13:11:16 2016 No.14921638 [DELETED]

>>14921569
Tripfags were always attention whoring faggots. I don't know why you trip-orbiters enable them so. Were you part of the same group calling random attention whoring females on /b/ so-and-so-chan?

If you want to use a trip so bad, just use a fucking trip and don't act like a faggot. I suspect you'll fail at that though.
Of course this doesn't mean there weren't people using trips who weren't problems. If they really contributed though, they can contribute with or without a trip.

>>14921569
>90% of the users of this site will never know what is bad
That's what the ban screen and https://www.4chan.org/bans is for. Not reading the rules is their problem. They'll get banned and learn the hard way. What do you want the mods to do? Take that jannycat picture and put it in a sticky at the top of the board with a ban on the post and a mod post under saying they'll ban people for posting that? That will really tickle the W-bros' balls.

>4chan was fine until like 2007
Whoo. Tell me something I don't know. What point were you even trying to make?

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 13:26:12 2016 No.14921681 [DELETED]

>>14921593

tl;dr of it is a procedural world RPG.
It only saves changes to it, making memory management very optimal. Changes are offsets. Harder to get head around at first, but glad I did it that way.

Offline "MMO"-like world, massive. Similar to say Dwarf Fortress Adventure mode. But with an actual functioning UI, not an autistic-pre-pre-not-even-alpha-yet interface. Fucking Toady, come on man.
I never even realized how similar it was to DF until around 2008 when I happened to see a DF thread and hopped in.
Fairly similar resource system.

Main goal was to become king of the world really.
You could form parties like any RPG, but in a more natural way.
DF Adv Mode is only just getting the ability to build your own forts in it, which I think looks pretty neat.
That damn interface though. I wish he would spend an update just tidying the interface up. The menu and control system is horribly inconsistent.

It is in devhell at present. Life got in the way.
I will post pictures if the thread is even still up when I get to PC.

>>14921638
Fact is, this site started out majority tripcode users.
As soon as moot (got help to) get trips running, everyone and their grandmother were in trip.
This site was always for "attention-whores", as you so incorrectly put it.
The actual attention-whores were a minority and were regularly banned even then. (except on /b/ where it grew out of control with camwhore cunts)

As for Ban screen, that doesn't help the rest of the people. That is the point.
Seeing what sort of posts got a person banned was more of a learning process than getting banned. Banning was never really effective, but it was still annoying and people wanted to prevent it. Visible banning would be even more effective today with 4chans new and improved normie community.

Also, no, chan-whore faggots were the worst.
That is the reason I stopped going to /b/ because nothing was getting done about it.
That Crackycunt killed /b/, and the numerous clones.
But when they tried to deal with it, instead they caved to the whiners and let them have their camwhores. And 7chan was born. lol
That is why this place fucking blows 10 kinds of ass now. The moderation caved to pressure from outside influence and shitposters. /b/day should have been a good thing.

The fact you haven't seen the point means you have already made your mind up and never read anything at all. There is no point discussing it.
This thread is already way off topic as it is.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 13:29:02 2016 No.14921696 [DELETED]

>>14921569
You're full of it. Being a tripfuck was never more ``socially accepted'' on 4chan than it is now. Sure, there were many back in the days, but they were ridiculed and shunned by the vast majority of the userbase, which all posted as Anonymous.

As if we ``corrupted'' the concept of 4chan, hahaha, that's a good one, coming from someone like you who even admits to having been part of the ``cool kid gang'' in the past. I don't even know why I'm replying to you (probably because I have too much time on my hands).

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 13:32:06 2016 No.14921713 [DELETED]

>>14921696
The picture and many others state otherwise.

Stop being a revisionist.

Or do I need to get videos out of 4chan in 2005 as well? /b/ at that.
Names and trips everywhere.

Most of those people (me too) left for SovietRussia when this place embraced their faggotry.
Fuck menchi.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 13:40:07 2016 No.14921753 [DELETED]

>>14921681
Yeah the awkard interface is mainly what made me shy away from DF adventure mode, even though it works for fortress mode I guess.

The idea of an offline procedural RPG is pretty enticing because it gives so much opportunities for vast and great concept ideas but then something like a basic combat engine takes up all of the time and the end result is a 10 minute Momodora experience (although its still a good game).
But I think derailing this thread any further with gamedev blogging won't really fit here since this isnt the place for such a discussion.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 13:40:47 2016 No.14921757 [DELETED]

>>14921681
>Visible banning would be even more effective today with 4chans new and improved normie community.
Look. And by look, I mean look at https://www.4chan.org/bans.. The majority of bans are for blatant shitposting, usually of things they know have gotten deletions and bans before or else they are for NSFW images on moot's stupid SFW enabled boards. People who get banned know why they're getting banned. When posts get deleted people know why they got deleted. There aren't any esoteric rules being enforced that people aren't picking up on because of silent moderation.

>>14921713
No one cares about your hand picked threads. There are archives for that.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 13:46:55 2016 No.14921786 [DELETED]

>>14921757
>archives
Yeah, sure, all those lovely archivers from <2005
Holy fucking new, just stop already, it is embarrassing.

Also, the fact you think there aren't any esoteric rules is priceless.
This site has so many unwritten rules it beats Britains 22,000 page Tax Code.

Hell, I'm honestly thinking you don't even know what forced anonymous I am even talking about. You blatantly don't understand the rules thing, so I could bet on it.

>>14921753
Yeah, battle stuff and such I never even thought about much beyond a basic idea.
It was going to be similar to Vagrant Story where you pick body parts to attack, then it is all stats.

The rest is just painful trial and error.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 14:19:17 2016 No.14921906 [DELETED]

>>14921267
>while I admit /jp/ sort of felt like old /b/ at the beginning, that's not /jp/'s purpose
What's the purpose of an imageboard? One whose rules were "all otaku shit welcome," at that?

>Here's your problem. You can't stand people having peaceful communication, so you need to be disruptive with shitposts and then get angry when people call them out on being worthless tripe that you should have spent the time killing yourself instead of posting.
Counterclaim: The problem is that raging autists like you will arbitrarily make shit up about other people to shit on them, same as the people who foam at the mouth and scream outsider and newfag whenever someone has the temerity to disagree with them. I have absolutely no fucking idea where you managed to pull this from.

>Fun is Rika Nipah.
And that's not around anymore, either.

>>14921301
And then there's this faggot. I like how you group Tenshi eating a corndog in with deliberately malicious, disruptive spam. And that "who are you quoting" shit was part of the so-called elitism that retards thought was preserving /jp/'s quality. But hey, why bother being coherent when you can just throw a curtain of generic hostility at someone?

>>14921696
>Sure, there were many back in the days, but they were ridiculed and shunned by the vast majority of the userbase, which all posted as Anonymous.
You got ridiculed and shunned if you were an outsize retard, or else if you spent too much time circlejerking or blogging about stupid shit. Other than that you simply got treated like you were a poster on the internet. Not anymore, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 14:23:59 2016 No.14921916 There was a post here. It's gone now.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 14:26:51 2016 No.14921924 [DELETED]

>>14921267
>while I admit /jp/ sort of felt like old /b/ at the beginning, that's not /jp/'s purpose
What's the purpose of an imageboard? One whose rules were "all otaku shit welcome," at that?

>Here's your problem. You can't stand people having peaceful communication, so you need to be disruptive with shitposts and then get angry when people call them out on being worthless tripe that you should have spent the time killing yourself instead of posting.
Counterclaim: The problem is that raging autists like you will arbitrarily make shit up about other people to shit on them, no different from the people who foam at the mouth and scream outsider and newfag whenever someone has the temerity to disagree with them.

>This is a necessary evil, like the captcha. Dumbasses who have personal vendettas against moderators and will tie them to a name made it necessary.
Not just personal vendettas, but also the overall degree to which certain people felt the need to declare war on moderation in general. Though I guess trying to find out individual moderator's identities so you can use them to disrupt the board even more was part of that.

>Fun is Rika Nipah.
And that's not around anymore, either.

>>14921301
And then there's this faggot. I like how you group Tenshi eating a corndog in with deliberately malicious, disruptive spam. And that "who are you quoting" shit was part of the so-called elitism that retards thought was preserving /jp/'s quality. But hey, why bother being coherent when you can just throw a curtain of generic hostility at someone?

>>14921696
>Sure, there were many back in the days, but they were ridiculed and shunned by the vast majority of the userbase, which all posted as Anonymous.
You got ridiculed and shunned if you were an outsize retard, or else if you spent too much time circlejerking or blogging about stupid shit. Other than that you simply got treated like you were a poster on the internet. Not anymore, obviously.

>>14921916
go away post sniper

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 14:39:51 2016 No.14921969 File: 257 KB, 850x1200, 3zBUVqj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's getting pretty hard to follow who's who in this argument. You guys should use trips.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 14:43:15 2016 No.14921979 >>14921969 How about having per thread ids instead?

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 14:46:03 2016 No.14921988 [DELETED]

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>>14921969
Oh no, don't do that, our little friend will get upset because any form of identity is attention-whoring.
His little fee-fees will get sore.

The ironic thing is /pol/ got better when IDs got added. And /b/ back when that had them, /b/ got shit again. Still, it isn't /a/ or /v/.

>>14921979
Yeah just like you mentioned.
Per-Thread IDs are absolutely fine.

Of course, shitposters will disagree because they can't post loads of different, opposing opinions just to see people argue over them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 14:52:16 2016 No.14922010 >>14921924 I was actually grouping old /jp/'s history in a silly way. Calm down, anon. And of course I know there's a huge difference between corndog tenshi and niggy.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 14:54:57 2016 No.14922028 [DELETED]

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>>14921988
Trashposting is fun sometimes because actual discussions like this are so rare these days outside of generals that it doesn't even matter what goes on here anymore.
But pessimism aside, I agree that per thread IDs will improve a board's quality, but since the nature of 4chan has changed towards the anonymous identity, everyone will be against it.
In the end, it's up to our dear Hiroyuki to decide what he wants this place to be, and if his idea is that of anonymous, so be it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 15:04:12 2016 No.14922069 >>14922028 Our future will be decided by the fags in >>>/qa/ just like the fags from /q/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 15:06:25 2016 No.14922078 >>14922069 Hell here's a thread that looks like it was made by one of the arguers in this thread >>>/qa/467491 Now you guys can go post about the good ol' days there

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 15:54:58 2016 No.14922252 Damn, this thread got culled hard. Looks like the janitor wasn't happy with the derailment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 14 16:20:19 2016 No.14922354 File: 137 KB, 450x775, 1455685750599.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14848951 Hello /jp/ Someone posted this video http://youtu.be/OMOHLfefU2Q She looks like a psychopath. A murderer?

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 16:33:54 2016 No.14922409

>>14921304
I didn't see you making making any effort to bring the thread back on-topic.

>>14921331
You could have been literally 12 when /jp/ was created and you still wouldn't be a teenager anymore. If they were making shit up the real problem is that they'd be a pack of liars.

Anonymous Mon Mar 14 17:36:23 2016 No.14922629

>>14922409
>I didn't see you making making any effort to bring the thread back on-topic.
Probably because there is literally nothing left to say about the topic (at /jp/'s current level of expertise) that hasn't already been said, unless you want to turn it into "Nicovideo General."

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 00:56:28 2016 No.14924380
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>>14887247
>I'd rather have this shitty captcha/pass system than have google dictate what the website should be
Unless you have legacy turned on, I have some bad news for you, nicofag anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 01:12:42 2016 No.14924417 >>14922629 So what valuable secrets are we missing out due to our "current level of expertise". smart guy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 02:03:19 2016 No.14924549 >>14924417 I'm not the poster you're replying to, but for example, no one's mentioned the content tree system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 02:04:13 2016 No.14924552 >>14924417 I don't have that expertise either, but I was hoping somebody who was familiar with the Nicovideo creative community as it's evolved through the years might have something to add. The technical aspect has mostly been beaten to death.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 02:30:05 2016 No.14924618 >>14924417 It's as much a ranking site as it is a video-sharing site, so criticisms about the video player (though all true) kind of miss the point.

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 02:31:27 2016 No.14924621

>>14924552
Nicovideo's community is worse than Youtube's idiots. The non-lewd MMD makers can be entertaining sometimes but those people and their stupid gay porn meme that's been going on since like 2007 are so tired. Most other fad shit, usually from Touhou fans, is equally dumb. Their let's-players seem less obnoxious though.

>>14922629
>>14924417
>>14924549
Truth be told, I've never used Nicovideo, or Youtube for that matter, beyond looking at videos. I have no idea what sort of other features they have. I know Nico has a encyclopedia and a comic/art section(complete with comments scrolling over the comic pages) and supposedly an 'adult' section.

Can I use this thread to ask basic shit about stuff people spam on videos?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 02:38:05 2016 No.14924630 >Delete bank number from account so they don't charge me for the next month >It also ends the current month sub that I just paid for Lmao.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 02:40:15 2016 No.14924635 >>14924621 >Can I use this thread to ask basic shit about stuff people spam on videos? Sure

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 03:07:41 2016 No.14924712

>>14924621
>Most other fad shit, usually from Touhou fans, is equally dumb
I like most of the dumb Touhou fad shit. Anything that involves two Touhous talking to each other and being dumb (lots of shorts, some series, some manzai) makes me smile even if it is really dumb all around.

As for the rest of the community I don't know too much about it, except that I'm subscribed to a couple live broadcast channels that mostly involve a girl talking with the screen and trading shit with a few hundred commenters.

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 06:30:00 2016 No.14925458

>>14924621
>>14924712
I absolutely love the 音MAD culture from nicovideo, it's probably the most creative and talented community on that site by far.
I used to have a friend from the site who was an ultra ニコ厨 but apparently he got sick of the western 4chan attitude and stopped all contact, which is sort of surprising since the nico userbase has a strong overlap with 2chan already and they're not trolling any less over there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 08:17:46 2016 No.14925748 >>14924621 >>14924712 >>14925458 So no one is into the vocaloid/utaite/odorite community?

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 08:20:23 2016 No.14925757

>>14924635
Lets start with simple stuff then. Most stuff I don't get, I see on the more pervert type videos.

What does NG mean?

Why do people spam stuff with slashes like "/hidden'"? Is it some sort of meme like how /b/ would tell people to post random words on other boards to unlock secret functions?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 08:50:49 2016 No.14925826 >>14925757 NG means no good /hidden is just a tongue in cheek inside joke sources: http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/ng http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%2Fhidden

Anonymous Tue Mar 15 10:57:02 2016 No.14926165

>>14925826
But here, probably specifically the NG function on comments.

You right click a comment and NG it to hide it. You can also set things so that you don't see comments NGed by other users: http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/NG共有機能

You'll often see 黙ってNG, which means you should NG comments you don't like instead of responding to them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 11:45:46 2016 No.14926267 Who's that syamu_game guy and why are there so many videos making fun of him? Is it just because he's an especially obnoxious Youtuber, kind of like how /tv/ makes fun of Latza?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 16:43:16 2016 No.14927192 >>14925748 You probably want to ask the people in the Vocaloid thread. I watch the videos sometimes but I don't know anything about the people in them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 16:48:16 2016 No.14927205 I wish there were more incentives for people to broadcast more..It's sad to look in my nico community over the years and only 3-5 broadcast regularly out of 50

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 17:43:56 2016 No.14927452 >>14925748 I dislike vocaloids. Their music gets used in MMD dancing videos a lot but it's annoying. The only things with them in them that I watch are videos that feature various models from all sorts of things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 20:15:21 2016 No.14928062 >>14860928 lmao what was going on there? i can't understand a thing but the dude clearly was going off the las couple of minutes

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:02:25 2016 No.14928684 >>14927192 I asked this here more because of the odorite community, which is not contemplated in the vocaloid thread, but I thought I should also mention vocaloid/utaite since these are closely related.

Anonymous Wed Mar 16 05:10:50 2016 No.14929738

>>14860928
She's on Twitcasting, here:
http://twitcasting.tv/fukaseee

>>14928062
This was a 喧嘩凸待ち, which means she wanted people to call her to argue with her/bully her.
I guess that guy was a bit too much for her to handle. At first he was just talking shit about her looks and other random crap, but then he started making fun of the fact that she is mentally ill, has no friends, doesn't leave her house, and is a burden to society, which apparently struck a nerve (according to the title of the video she is actually a mentally ill neet).

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 09:33:12 2016 No.14930654 File: 105 KB, 960x544, 1457886928763.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14929738 I supposed niconico is a magnet for both, female and male neets

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 11:35:26 2016 No.14931121 >>14929738 lol poor thing but why would you get people to call you to bully you if can't take it?. i know nothing about this jap streamers, is this '' 喧嘩凸待ち'' common?

Anonymous Wed Mar 16 12:39:04 2016 No.14931349

>>14931121
I don't know if it's that common, but it's common enough to be a thing.
Generally I don't think you're supposed to take it seriously, it's just talking shit for fun, with the implied understanding that they don't really mean what they're saying. For normal people it's just harmless fun, but I guess if you're mentally unstable it can end up like this. Then again, maybe the crying was part of the act too, who knows.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 06:40:22 2016 No.14934517 This thread is a good case study in why /jp/ is a sterile board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 07:10:23 2016 No.14934573 >>14934517 Being sterile is a good thing. The opposite is being a diseased trash heap.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 07:19:56 2016 No.14934594 >>14934573 Back to the moon with you, Lunarian scum. /jp/ is a place for the living.

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