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So if young adult books are called "light novels", what do the japanese call novels that aren't for kids? And why don't we ever hear about them?

>> No.14418209

The Japanese don't like reading. They need at least pictures, and a simple language of narration.

>> No.14418213

novels 4 kidz or somehing i dont know

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>>14418204
And another thing:

If I then search google for a "adult novel" or "hard novel", then the only shit that pops up is pornographic.

>> No.14418248

"novels"

>> No.14418259

>>14418248
why don't people ever talk about "normal' japanese novels then? we only hear about manga/anime adapting "light" novels

>> No.14418263

>>14418259
Because Japan is a meme culture.

>> No.14418265

>>14418259

maybe there's a different culture associated with regular novels

>> No.14418271

>>14418259
>we
You mean you?

>> No.14418290

>>14418271
in that case can you point to any novel novels that have become relevant in the last couple years? either in their own right or being adapted?

i think i speak for more than just me but i'd be very happy to be proved wrong on this

>>14418265
what

>> No.14418305

>>14418290
I'm pretty sure this season has a novel adaptation, next season will have one and there are three movies based on a pretty popular novel series in Japanese theaters. And, it's not like there haven't been actual novel adaptations in the past.

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"Japanese literature."

Seriously, there's tons of Japanese literature in translation here in the west, and has been for decades. It's only recently, after the anime boom of the last 20 years, that we're seeing light novels being translated in such large numbers, because there might just be an audience for them. The difference is that light novels are aimed almost solely at an audience made receptive by the expectations of anime and manga, whereas an "otaku" is much less likely to be interested in reading, for example, Masuji Ibuse's "Black Rain" just because it comes from Japan. How many light novel readers have sat down and read any Yukio Mishima? Or is somebody into SOA likely to pick up Otsuichi's horror novels just because they happen to come from Japan?

If you're interested in Japanese literature there's a fuckton of it available in English, but it's much more varied than LN fare.

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>>14418305
But it's less common right? Which was my point basically. I'm just curious why that is.

>going out of your way to avoid specifically naming the ones you are talking about
pls

>> No.14418331

They're called novels. What is wrong with you lol

>>>/lit/

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>>14418321
>Masuji Ibuse's "Black Rain" just because it comes from Japan. How many light novel readers have sat down and read any Yukio Mishima? Or is somebody into SOA likely to pick up Otsuichi's horror novels just because they happen to come from Japan?
>If you're interested in Japanese literature there's a fuckton of it available in English, but it's much more varied than LN fare.

now that's what im talking about

>> No.14418352

>>14418327
Subete ga F ni Naru is airing this season. Did you forget about KyoAni's best looking show already? What about PA works' next show.

I mea, this shit isn't rocket science. If you want Japanese literature, you look for it?

>> No.14418358

>>14418331
you misunderstand friend

i wanted to know if there was a cultural distinction for strictly "non kid" (i.e. adult but not pornographic) literature

like if they did the seinen/shonen/shoujo distinction for books too, and if so where are those books and why they aren't they as popular internationally either in their original format or being used in an adaptation

most of thats been answered above already

>> No.14418366

>>14418352
>Did you forget about KyoAni's best looking show already?
That's not hyouka.

>> No.14418396

>>14418366
It is indeed Hyouka. One could argue Nichijou but Hyouka is still better in my eyes.

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>>14418396

>> No.14418447

>>>/lit/

Close this thread.

>> No.14420377

>>14418358
No there's no sort of seinen/josei or whatever fucking distinction dude, japanese literature for ADULTS has been around for more than a thousand years. Why would they make up a new name for it? Manga is a babby medium compared to japanese lit.

>> No.14420506

>>14418358
Why would there be those are fucking target audiences and normal novels are aimed at the general public.

>> No.14420517

>>14418259
Subete ga F Ni Naru

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