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VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sun, Nov 22, 2015 01:30:16 No.14385533 [Reply] [Original]

Visual Novel translation status

Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1495/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (64.8%)"
Aokana - Common route + 3 character routes translation done
>AstralAir - prologue patch released, 37,588 / 64,880 (57.93%) lines translated
Ayakashi Gohan - 49% complete
Black Wolves Saga: All scripts translated, 55/65 scripts edited
>Bunny Black 2 - Translation started
Clover Day's - 100% of the common route + 348/711 KB, 119/743 KB, 92/764, 338/846 and 74/722 KB of 5 routes translated
Gore Screaming Show - Prologue and day one patch released
HaraKano - Ayana Seno's route patch released
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
>Harumade Kururu - 34.5% of the initial route translated
Hoka no Onna - 48.68% translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - New project started, prologue mostly translated
Ken ga Kimi: 116/122 scripts translated, 101/122 scripts edited
Kiminozo - Common route translation complete
Koichoco - Going through finishing touches
>Koiken Otome - 96.81% translated, 88.90% edited, prologue patch released
Kurukuru Fanatic - 87.5% translated
Lovely Cation- 26% of lines completed
>Majikoi A-1 - 64%
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Commie project actively in editing
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 2nd project with 2.2 scripts translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3rd project released ch 1-5
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, new partial patch
Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 25% translated
Noble Works - 54,169 / 57,690 (93.9%) lines translated, partial patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - 266/268 scripts translated, 196/268 through TLC+Editing, 121/268 scripts finalized
PersonA - 44% translated
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 22583/30040 (75.18%) lines translated
SakuSaku - 100% translated, 31858/49257 (65%) lines finalized
Starry Sky In Summer - All scripts translated and edited, 114/177 scripts through TLC
SubaHibi - 100% translated, 2nd editing pass and QC remain

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sun, Nov 22, 2015 01:30:26 No.14385537

>Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 4,872 / 30,513 Lines (16.0%) translated, partial patch released
Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 100% translated and edited, QC and technical work remains
>White Album 2 - 16712/35275 (47.37%) lines of closing chapter translated
Witch's Garden - 41179/67201 (61.28%) lines translated, 2221/67201 (3.31%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 78.42%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

Official work

MangaGamer
Euphoria - demo released, 11/27 release
>Gahkthun - 12/23 release
Free Friends 2 - 100% translated and edited
Higurashi Hou -Watanagashi released
>Bokuten - 69% translated, 32.66% edited
>Da Capo 3 - 65.8% translated, 44.6% edited
>OZMAFIA - 90% translated
>House in Fata Morgana - 92% translated
>Myth - 75% translated, 72% edited
My Boss Wife is My Ex - 100% translated and edited
Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, 18.13% TL 18.13% edited
Supipara - Ch 1 100% translated and edited
>Yurirei - 89% translated, 79% edited
>Himawari - TL and editing finished, in scripting
>Beat Blades Haruka - 95.0% Translated
Umineko - Picked up
>Tokyo Babel - 84% translated
Negai no Kakera - Picked up
Princess Evangile W Happiness - Picked up

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sun, Nov 22, 2015 01:31:29 No.14385542

JAST
Sonicomi - Fully translated, building launcher
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- Translation 83%
Flowers - 100% translated, in editing, preparing to port
Seinarukana- Waiting on LE materials. QA checking.
Django - Waiting on translation.
Sumeragi Ryoko - 100% translated, waiting on test build
Sweet Home - 10% translated

Sekai/Denpa
Clannad - Nov 23 release
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title in TL through end of Nov
WAS - Kickstarter finished, delayed
Atom Grrrl - 100% translated
>Narcissu 3rd - 88.47% translated
>Narcissu 0 - 43.41% translated
>WEE 3 - 7.40% translated
Nenokami - 37.79% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - picked up
Sacrament Sheep - In Beta
Memory's Dogma - Kickstarter reached goal
Chrono Clock - Picked up
Root Double - Picked up
Tenshin Ranman - Picked up
Witch Boy - Kickstarter failed
Darekoi - Picked up
Wagamama High Spec - 2016 release
Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - Picked up

Other
Harmonia - On Steam GL
Little Busters - Picked up
Tomoyo After - Picked up
Muv Luv Trilogy - Kickstarter succeeded
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 2731/10293 (26.53%) lines translated
Harvest December - 3DS ports being released
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Kickstarter preview up
Magical Eyes - Winter release planned
Zero Time Dilemma - 2016 release

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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 01:53:21 No.14385616 So I was given a early access key by SP for clannad and to the surprise of no one is just the same translation as the shitty one that's currently on the net. A++ scam

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 02:00:33 No.14385640 Fuck you, Dan88

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 02:27:10 No.14385715
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Gahkthun was in the top five, but it's gone now. Euphoria certainly continues to truck along, however. While it's never sat at the top of the list, it's been consistently in the top 5 each week since it's preorder launch.

As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you got em'

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 02:52:12 No.14385799 After Sekai releases Clannad they're not going to have anything noteworthy of releasing until like 2017. Meanwhile JAST is doing nothing like always. How do they pay their workers if they don't make any money?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 02:55:01 No.14385811 >>14385799 With all the money they make from selling crap to weebs.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 03:08:05 No.14385871 >>14385537 >Da Capo 3 - 65.8% translated, 44.6% edited Only 2 more years to go.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 03:30:35 No.14385926

MangaGamer has so many things near completion. I wonder how much time they'll put in between each release. If it's like 1 month between each. It'll be like a year until anything new picked up/currently unannounced will be released.

Shouldn't they be announcing new projects soon to keep the hype train rolling.

inb4 waiting for perfect moment to announce their kamige project.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 03:35:41 No.14385936 >>14385926 They already got their biggest news of the year: the partnership with AliceSoft. Most people thought that was impossible.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 03:41:50 No.14385950 >>14385936 Yeah and it turned the entire Alicesoft fanbase against them, so good going.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 03:44:14 No.14385955

I wonder how much MG pays its employees to continue hyping them up on 4chan while deriding their competitors. I feel that MG is the only company that regularly receives disproportionally large amounts of positive reviews on 4chan, while JAST and SP are generally ridiculed. It's hard to believe this would be the result of simply being the better company, because frankly, they aren't. (Admittedly, they are better at PR, given how their staff members aren't complete social retards like in some other companies...)

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 03:47:06 No.14385959 >>14385955 Dovac pls go.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 03:47:27 No.14385960 >>14385955 dovac is a faggot. I'm sure most of /jp/ talks shit about him FOR FREE!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 03:49:30 No.14385965 >>14385955 How much did Peter Payne pay you for this?

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 03:50:34 No.14385968

>>14385955
Well,
Sekai project only kickstarts already translated shit and releases already translated shit and OELVNs so nobody likes them. They also don't deliver their kickstarter backer rewards.
They also use Google Translate and are actually trying to ressurect Hitler.

JAST does some good work but they delay things for absurdly long times for no reason. I say no reason because they don't provide any explanations for these delays.

Meanwhile, MangaGamer regularly releases things and regularly updates, which are things customers like to see.
Their translators are also involved in the community and some people like that close connection.
Arunaru's haruka tweets are a good example of why MangaGamer is gaining popularity compared to the others.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 04:25:00 No.14386057 >>14385955 >because frankly, they aren't >Admittedly, they are better at PR >their staff members aren't complete social retards Do you live in bizzaro land or something?

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 04:34:15 No.14386083

>>14385955
>It's hard to believe this would be the result of simply being the better company
What's so hard to believe about it? Sekai has made some absolutely terrible decisions during its existence and JAST never seems to do any work so naturally the only company without major flaws would look great compared to them.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 04:35:12 No.14386088

>>14385955
MG simply are the best company available, who also seem to have values that match up with this board aka don't censor, don't machine translate, and don't lie all the damn time. It really isn't surprising people here like them.

That, and ya know, actually releasing new stuff at a decent rate. That helps too.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 05:23:21 No.14386246

>>14385955
>It's hard to believe this would be the result of simply being the better company, because frankly, they aren't.
There are three companies worth talking about in the whole VN market. One of them releases shit, another one releases nothing and the third one releases VNs. It's not that hard to be the winner when you're the only one competing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 05:28:36 No.14386256 >>14385926 They can still do once a month and and it will last them until next year. They would need to stop the half month release for short all-ages or nukieges, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 07:21:25 No.14386584 >>14385616 Yeah, link to your steam profile as proof, or you're just a lying fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 07:25:39 No.14386597 >>14385616 >>14386584 There will be no link, /jp/ is full of lying fucks.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 07:36:42 No.14386628

>>14385968

I can see why MG are popular with the fanbase, however Haruka is a shit game that the community is being asked to support to keep alive a small possibility that Alicesoft will release Rance to the West sometime in the distant future. It’s a bullshit practice, and it’s a part of the reason the Alicesoft fanbase are angry. If you think a pleasant and engaging attitude on twitter changes this basic fact, you’re living in bizarro land.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 07:42:39 No.14386646 >>14386628 Aru seems to get on perfectly fine with the focal point of the rage. Probably because he's honest

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 07:45:46 No.14386658 >>14386646 It’s possible to be fine with Aru, and yet pissed with MG.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 07:47:47 No.14386662 >>14386658 Wouldn't what game gets licensed be more Alicesoft's decision? Shouldn't you be pissed at them?

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 07:50:26 No.14386667

>>14386662

Yeah, I can be pissed at both. I'm fine with buying games, but I don't like shitty ones being thrust at me and me being asked to support them or the better ones won't be brought over. That's incredibly dodgy practice imo. Some people are saying it's a popular game in Japan, but I don't see how it could be. It looks utter crap compared to Rance.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 07:50:54 No.14386668

So, Conjueror is finished with his part of Tokyo Babel. He said a japanese company approached him to translate a VN and its score on EGS is above 80.
I wonder what it is and if this means that the japanese company won't release the game through a publisher.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 08:06:38 No.14386710

>>14386662
It's Maria who people are pissed off at.

That said most of the pissed off people don't think MG will want to bring Rance VI over anyway because of it's age

>>14386667
It's a great nukige. But it and Rance have pretty different target audiences

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 08:07:35 No.14386711 What's with the sudden progress for White Album 2?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:05:04 No.14386841 >>14386668 Eustia

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:17:03 No.14386856

>>14385926
>Shouldn't they be announcing new projects soon to keep the hype train rolling.
Con season 2016 is when they'll announce their new acquisitions. AX and Otakon are when they announce their major licenses.

>>14385950
It was the fanbase feeling rused about the Rance fan TLs that led to most of the outrage though.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:23:43 No.14386868 >>14385968 You forgot all the crappy doujin and meme games Sekai releases. Yohjo Simulator was taken off of Steam (possibly only temporarily) and in the upcoming Kokonoe Kokoro, you get to date an insect girl.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:26:12 No.14386873

>>14386628
>Haruka is a shit game
It's an award-winning nukige with gameplay. Even if it's not the best game in Alicesoft's catalog it's far from being a kusoge and given what kinds of games MG's customers buy (Huniepop and Boob Wars) I'm sure it will sell well.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:28:42 No.14386881 >>14386841 You wish. It's probably あの晴れわたる空より高く. Chuable were expressing interest in having their stuff come to the West,

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:34:09 No.14386892

>>14386628
>the community is being asked to support to keep alive a small possibility that Alicesoft will release Rance to the West sometime in the distant future.
If the first game they license to MG doesn't sell well, then they'll likely not want to license any more games to them. So, telling the fanbase to support the release to get more Alicesoft games localized isn't really disingenuous.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:37:24 No.14386897 >>14386667 > Some people are saying it's a popular game in Japan, but I don't see how it could be. http://tenka.seiha.org/2008/03/beat-blades-haruka-an-introduction-to-ninjas-and-porn/

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:39:21 No.14386904

>>14386892
It is pretty disingenuous if you can't even say if Rance will be next or not.

Of course if you start this whole conversation with "by the way I never intended to release those fan translations I made you think I was going to release" you're going to burn any trust pretty quickly.

>>14386897
Good nukige. Mediocre game. Completely different target audience to Rance fans.

Will sell well for MG and be popular here. And lead to a similar Alicesoft game coming next

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:43:36 No.14386921 >>14386904 MG likely doesn't even know what Alicesoft will be willing to license to them next. Rance is popular in the West though, so it does have good sales potential, which Alicesoft will hopefully keep in mind.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:44:36 No.14386926 >>14386921 So be honest and say that rather then telling people to buy Haruka to get Rance.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:47:43 No.14386940 >>14386668 Maybe it's Dies Irae THIS time. trololol.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 09:55:59 No.14386983

>>14386921
This doesn't sound very logical. Rance is popular in the west because most people already played Rance 7, and that's it. The earlier Rance games all have that ancient look about them, which certainly won't win any points in the west, and Rance 7, well... I certainly wouldn't buy it, because I have literally zero desire to ever play it again after having invested so much time already in the past. Others will likely feel the same way.

And as for the new Rance games, they don't strike me as particularly good either gameplay-wise or porn-wise.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 10:01:36 No.14387007

>>14386983
Rance 03 was pretty good.
Rance IX. Gameplay was meh but the rest was pretty enjoyable.
You really need to have played the earlier games for it though.

But you're basically right. VI is extremely highly rated among the Rance games but it looks old and is a prequel to Sengoku Rance.
The fanbase who can't play VI but really want to play VI are the same guys they just really pissed off.

They can't really release the games in chronological order either because that has difficulties and then some of the other games (like VI which is what people are pissed off about) will be extremely hard to release.

Quest is probably the easiest game to release given it's the direct sequel to Sengoku but they probably won't be able to release it with Magnum and without Magnum, Quest is a pretty mediocre game.

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>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 10:15:41 No.14387086 >>14386668 Some Gigas moege.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 10:58:41 No.14387282 >>14387007 Mediocre is overselling it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 12:53:20 No.14387740 >>14387033 It will be funny if he actually would do it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 13:48:31 No.14387963 File: 192 KB, 1280x720, 20151109171836.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The number one game this week. barfs

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 14:01:04 No.14388025 Looks like people who backed Clannad are still trying to bum Sekai for Steam keys.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 14:02:06 No.14388030 >>14388025 *backed for physical only

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 14:13:33 No.14388081 >>14387963 Holy shit thats fucking ugly. Did they contract some furry artist on tumblr to do the art?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 14:15:24 No.14388093 "I love poop..." —Akutsu Ryou, Director of euphoria

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 14:26:15 No.14388127 >>14387963 what the flying fuck

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 14:32:16 No.14388149

>>14385968
I wonder how Sekai keeps getting away with announcing all kinds of new shit when they still have to deliver old projects.
Seriously when is the press finally call them out on this shit.

World End Economica 2 took forever and the translation is fucking horrible and is completely inconsistent with the first one. Not to mention it still uses the old engine while the first one still uses that broken piece of shit renpy that hogs the CPU like mad instead of that the shiny new Unity engine they promised.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 15:00:46 No.14388255

>>14388149
Because they lie in ways that are difficult to call them out on, so they can keep saying that they're doing their best, it's just everything else that keeps screwing them. Their favorite excuse is that the original devs are fucking everyone over, them included, and that's why they can't fulfill half the shit they promise.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 15:07:34 No.14388274 >>14388093 >"When I’m writing h-scenes that’s all I end up thinking about" —Asou Ei, Scenario Writer of euphoria

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 15:09:11 No.14388278 >>14388093 "When I’m writing h-scenes that’s all I end up thinking about" —Asou Ei, Scenario Writer of euphoria

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 15:14:32 No.14388295 >>14388278 "Knorr’s corn soup. It’s seriously magic. All you do is add water." —Hyoujou Aoi, Chief Graphics Designer of euphoria

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 16:19:03 No.14388497

>>14385955
>because frankly, they aren't.
Yes, they are.
1) No censorship
2) No delays for 10 years for completed projects
3) Good TL quality

They prefer releasing better product over releasing it faster or cutting costs. When SP is content with releasing utter garbage like NekoPara and later claiming "its shit because rushed", MG would delay it, fire morons responsible, hire new team and redo tl (Free Friends, Higurashi, lots of re-TL for Cartagra).

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 16:20:03 No.14388501 >>14386628 >Haruka is a shit game Haruka is one of AliceSoft's bestsellers in Japan, stop lying.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:00:31 No.14388692 >>14388497 utter garbage managed to sell 100k on steam though

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:01:46 No.14388698 >>14388692 Well, once something is at the $10 price point and goes on sales for $5 or less all the time, there's a lot of impulse buyers. Way different than someone buying a $30 - $50 VN.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:05:46 No.14388718

>>14388692
Yes, and that's the point: there's no business reason to retranslate games or strive for higher quality at all, you can crap in a box and still sell it. But MG did invest money in quality despite this reasoning, and that's why I'm supporting them while shitting on SP. If they ever switch to SP practises, I'll treat them in same way as SP.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:09:37 No.14388744 >>14388718 You mean go back to SP practices.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:09:59 No.14388747

>>14388501

Haruka is basically a nukige with simplified gameplay. The gameplay seems tacked on and by-the-book, the sex scenes being included on the sim aspect of the game feels unnecessary - it's disappointing game imo. Rance has solid gameplay.

But I'm a Rance fan and like one of the above posters said, the games are aimed at different audiences. Pretty disappointed still.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:12:32 No.14388765 >>14388747 Well, it's not unreasonable to think that Alicesoft wouldn't let them touch Rance until they saw the reception for one of their other games. In that case it can't really be helped.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:21:28 No.14388823 >>14388765 People have said Pastel Chime has decent gameplay, they could have released that :(

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:22:22 No.14388827 >>14388823 It doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:24:09 No.14388836 >>14388827 Damn :(

>>	Arunaru !!DwJrPrzAV2M Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:24:41 No.14388841 >>14388823 Having played both relatively recently, Haruka's the better game all around.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:27:39 No.14388856 >>14388841 You also think that no games except those made by Alicesoft are worth playing, so your word means shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:31:19 No.14388873 >>14388856 Don't forget also outright lied to advance Maria's grand trolling plan. Buy Haruka. Buy Haruka. Buy Haruka. Buy Haruka.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:31:55 No.14388879

>>14388765
The logic of Japanese publishers is weird though. Why toss them them a less desirable game before forking over Rance?

Its like some of these Japanese publishers still cant wrap their head around the concept there's a market for their games outside Japan even though in the meantime the MuvLuv kickstarter rakes in over a million.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:32:54 No.14388883 >>14388879 Because like SP, MG staff lies about what goes on and loves to blame things on the devs.

>>	Arunaru !!DwJrPrzAV2M Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:33:27 No.14388886 >>14388856 I just care much more about RPGs than VNs and don't love Eushully's stuff, so it ends up being that way as far as eroge goes.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:35:55 No.14388898 >>14388886 Yes. That of course makes sense. You like everything Alicesoft makes, regardless of genre, but Eushully, who is apparently the only other Japanese VN gamemaker that exists, only makes crap. You're as full of shit as Moogy.

>>	Arunaru !!DwJrPrzAV2M Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:37:40 No.14388904 >>14388898 You read a lot into that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:37:44 No.14388906 >>14388898 He thinks Daiteikoku is a good game. Game, set, match.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:39:03 No.14388915 >>14388904 Your behavior and bullshit have given plenty of material.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:39:44 No.14388920

>>14388879
Because they examined MG sales and found that nukige with gameplay sells best, while story VNs hardly break even.
If you autists would pay for games you want, maybe they would consider your wishes, but in current market its nukige crowd who is catered to.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:40:22 No.14388923 >>14388920 DMC is the gift that keeps on giving.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:41:17 No.14388925 >>14388920 Exactly. It was no doubt number one on MG's requested list, despite all the bullshit they keep shoveling about how they really wanted Rance, so you'll have to buy lots of Haruka and maybe you'll have a chance for that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:46:01 No.14388938 These inane and idiotic conspiracy theories about how MangaGamer secretly didn't want Rance really need to die. It's sanahtlig levels of nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:46:58 No.14388946 >>14388938 You forgot your trip.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:47:39 No.14388949 >>14388938 What do you expect from Ludo fans. Self-alleged schizophrenic cannot attract anything but same of his kind.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:47:40 No.14388950

>>14388879
If I had a catalog of games to bring over to a foreign market, with foreign laws and a foreign partner, I'd sure as hell test the waters first.
>>14388925
Yeah cause Haruka selling well is totally going to make Rance less likely. Makes complete sense!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:48:54 No.14388953 >>14388938 It's weird how you think "they wanted the game that would be most profitable" is a conspiracy, and are assuming that the people who have admitted that they spent months lying about their intent aren't lying about their intent.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:50:57 No.14388963

>>14388949
You do know that Aru and Maria and basically everyone now working for MG spent years sticking up for Ludo and taking the fall for him every single time anybody said there was a problem with anything he was involved with, right? They're Ludo's fanbase.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:53:57 No.14388986

>>14388963
>Aru spent years sticking up for Ludo
Do you really expect such blatant lies to stick?
Everyone who ever visited rance threads knows that they hated each other, Arunaru kept outing Ludo for not knowing Japanese, and Ludo fans kept picking on Arunaru for hurting their fuhrer.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 17:56:57 No.14389010 >>14388963 Arunaru literally killed Ludo you moron.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:02:15 No.14389038

>>14389010
>>14388986
Oh look, it's /rape/ here to try to rewrite history. Right up until just before Ludo's meltdown, Aru sucked his dick along with the rest of them.

>I think Ludo's Japanese is probably better than mine. I'm far from fluent or anything, I still can't read most VNs without some sort of aid. What I do think from what I've seen in Ludo's screenshots is that he's translating literally and I at least tried to make something that flowed in English more smoothly. Maybe he's going to try and fix that in editing though, I don't know. But that my translation may appear to read better in English doesn't necessarily mean that it's a better 'translation.'

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:06:54 No.14389062 >>14389038 >I still can't read most VNs without some sort of aid. Always something you like to see from a supposed translator.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:07:56 No.14389070 >>14389038 Maybe at the start, but for the better of the last year before Ludo left the general the entire general hated Aru and loved Ludo because Aru was calling him out on his horrible Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:08:08 No.14389072 >>14389062 That quote is almost 3 years old.

Arunaru !!DwJrPrzAV2M Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:09:24 No.14389079

>>14389038
>>14389062

To help everyone out, this was posted in June 2013 right around when I was starting out and hadn't really scrutinized Ludo in any way. And frankly probably didn't know that much better than him.

>>/jp/thread/S10980799#p10984251

This was a year and a half before Ludo saying he was schizophrenic and all that.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:09:24 No.14389080 >>14389072 It takes 3 years to learn Japanese enough to read VNs? I wonder if I should start right this minute.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:10:35 No.14389085 >>14389080 Took me less than 2 years from zero knowledge to passing N1 and being able to read most VNs without text hooker. Depends on how much effort you put into it, if you read untranslated stuff every day, you will learn very fast.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:11:50 No.14389092 >>14389072 And still well after he had declared himself a 'translator.'

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:14:45 No.14389105 >>14389092 They still promote the openly machine translated Rance 1 and 2. What do you expect?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:16:23 No.14389116 >>14389079 So you stopped sucking on Ludo's cock and suck on Moogy's cock exclusively now?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:16:33 No.14389117 >>14388920 >If you autists would pay for games you want, maybe they would consider your wishes but but i bought SonaHana on release hoping they will release the rest of the series down the line.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:17:07 No.14389119 Moogy doesn't know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:17:13 No.14389122 >>14389080 It'll take 3 years if you honestly dont give a fuck and give minimum time to learn the language.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:18:47 No.14389129 >>14389122 >>14389080 It's been three years since he knew enough Japanese to 'translate with assistance,' within which he's done multiple games. Not three years learning Japanese.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:21:19 No.14389136

>Irotoridori no Sekai - 43,365/51,100 (84.86%) lines translated, full common route, Kana, Tsukasa, and Kyou route translated, prologue patch released
>Dracu-Riot - partial patch released, 35595/53707 (66.28%) lines translated, 2 routes + common route fully translated
Like if you cry every time.

>Muramasa - Common route complete, 2 of 5 chapters towards true end translated, uncertain what will come from the project

What actually happened to this?

4 Things on the JAST 2013 list are still on the list nearing the end of 2015.
While everything on MG's list was released ages ago.

Do people seriously wonder why MG is most popular?
For EOPs who have 0 knowledge of japanese, Quantity > Quality. MG has both.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:27:13 No.14389158

>>14389136
The guy translating it was hired by Jast to be their project manager years ago. He is the worst project manager in the world, so every project under him has slowed to a crawl and is plagued by organizational issues, keeping him from finishing his own translation projects. The tradeoff is that translation quality is much higher because of it, and he's almost completely redone a few translations (eg Steins;Gate and Yumina). He's a fantastic translator, but slow, has had no oversight, and can't stay organized. Jast is a side thing to J-List, so Payne doesn't give a shit.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:38:20 No.14389212

>>14389158
Doddler briefly touched on why JAST was so slow. Basically, some of the translators they got were shit but nobody was paying attention (no QC) until the very last moment and some VNs had to be retranslated. This lack of foresight also applies to whomever they got to fix whatever issues the programs themselves had. If Doddler has the time, I really wish he would help them out somewhat with their backlog of games or maybe just Seinarukana because god knows what the fuck is going on there.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:43:49 No.14389256

>>14389212
No oversight, no checking that they were hiring quality staff, no keeping tabs on staff and project, and no idea what was going on with their own projects are all symptoms of poor organization and management. That's one of the reasons MG has weekly status meetings. Although that didn't stop them from fucking things up with ImoPara/Free Friends/Free Friends 2 and having to throw a bunch of work out themselves.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 18:53:34 No.14389318 >>14389136 >While everything on MG's list was released ages ago. Da Capo 3 is done?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:00:13 No.14389359 >>14389318 DC 3 will be most likely released late 2016.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:01:29 No.14389367 File: 33 KB, 410x396, 1443263268115.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Bokuten - 69% translated, 32.66% edited That's cool.

Doddler !!LF9WPCSBmDX Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:02:29 No.14389371

>>14389212
I don't know what the hold up is on Seinarukana either. Neither me, the TL, nor editors or QC (that I know of) have been involved since last summer. As far as I'm aware QC was done last year too. I did help a little set up the demo this spring, but I haven't been involved since. It's really out of the project team's hands though, no one that was previously involved is in the loop.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:03:09 No.14389374 >>14389359 It started in August 2013. After two years and about four months, it's at 65%. If this pace continues, it's not even going to be finished in 2016, let alone released.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:04:46 No.14389383 >>14388920 Demonion when?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:05:28 No.14389387 >>14389371 Nobody is going to ask Makoto what's up? At least bother Peter about it so he can look into it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:08:34 No.14389406 >>14388938 Yes, let's move on to the conspiracy theory that JAST traded Propeller to MG in exchange for Flowers. If true, then MG really came out on top in that deal.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:08:48 No.14389409 >>14386841 YES PLEASE

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:15:44 No.14389437 >>14389383 I doubt they wold risk another extra-long nukige before they sell kuroinu and haruka and see results.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:26:01 No.14389480 >>14389371 So the project is basically done but nobody thought to release it? Nice.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:28:23 No.14389491

>>14389406
The partnership with Propeller is nice but i wonder why they chose these 2 titles. Tokyo Babel and Pygmalion are all-ages and except for their big cast of seiyuu it looks like shit if you compare to Evolimit or Bullet Butlers. Is it because they really want to put them on Steam ?
Well now that the partnership is established : we can only hope.
But i wish they work on Asairo. It's suppose to be a kamige afterall.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:32:30 No.14389510 >>14389480 According to what I can find, Sein is literally waiting on a graphic designer they don't have to make the Limited Edition stuff before they can release it. Which is stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:33:49 No.14389523 >>14389491 Maybe they're hoping to get Steam users attention with Tokyo Babel and get them to buy from their website for future Propeller releases, since the rest are all 18+ only, except for Chronobelt.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:34:13 No.14389525 >>14389510 What you can find where? Your ass?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:47:19 No.14389592 >>14389491 There is also a tendency to prefer newer (shiny) games over old (good) ones, because most of vn fanbase is retarded.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:52:39 No.14389618

>>14389592
I've never seen this.
I always see people wanting whatever is highly rated on egs or vndb.
However, what we see from localization companies are the shiny new things.
This probably stems from the original developer's intentions since they think their new shiny stuff will sell better than their stuff they made 10 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:53:50 No.14389622 >>14389618 It will. Clannad will probably sell like shit due to being $50 and old as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:57:07 No.14389630 >>14389618 >I've never seen this. Check posts of "Chaos Raven", for example. Chrono Clock is best thing ever, because its new and shiny, while Himawari is no-name lolicon doujin shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 19:57:51 No.14389632 >>14388149 What press?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:11:19 No.14389680 >>14389618 From what MG has said and how they act, I would imagine higher res games just do better. No idea how true that is, but that is the conclusion I have to come to from their actions and statements.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:23:23 No.14389746
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>@Yukinori I joined Amaterasu during Rewrite, so I didn't get a dime of the Muv-Luv payment. (Sad times..)
>But I actually had a conversation with Ryukishi07 at Acen and after getting my friend and I's copy of Rewrite signed, we talked to him about officially localizing the project and he gave me his card to give to Ixrec. So we'll see where that takes us.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:29:56 No.14389774 >>14389746 Sad times to live when even fucks like Ixrec can go official. Do Japanese hate their own games that much?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:30:37 No.14389775 >>14389774 Well they don't have much choice. Was Rewrite's TL even bad?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:31:47 No.14389779 >>14389746 I didn't know Frodo Baggins played VNs.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:32:25 No.14389782

>>14389746
>Write only Lucia route
>Talk about localizing project
Does he have that much power?
Rewrite anime confirmed. Rewrite VN localization after the anime airs is very possible.
>>14389774
The Japanese[Key] are so bad at english, they don't know how good or bad translations are. Look at the Harmonia preview video english.

Ixrec is better than what was shown there.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:33:07 No.14389785 >>14389775 Not as bad as Ixrec's mangling of things that have greater focus on the prose, but still full of basic translation and English grammar errors.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:33:31 No.14389788 >>14389775 You haven't heard of the infamous himo->shoestring debacle?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:33:42 No.14389790 Shiny Days HQ uncensor patch when?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:34:01 No.14389791 >>14389746 Key is already localizing Little Busters and with the Rewrite anime coming up next year it'd make sense for them to slap Ixrec's script onto a Steam release.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:34:09 No.14389792 >>14389775 They told someone to fuck off for reporting too many errors, so yes.

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:52:32 No.14389854

>>14389632
ANN, Siliconera, Destructoid, etc
Than again most gaming/anime news sites are just glorified paste bins for press releases these days.

>>14389680
Its understandable since the lower res (and often 4:3) assets do tend to look like ass on modern panels..

>>	None !ARODUC/ARg Sun, Nov 22, 2015 20:57:49 No.14389878 >>14389371 You don't speak for me.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 21:36:02 No.14390006 >>14385537 >Himawari - TL and editing finished, in scripting Soooon Thanks for all these threads, VNTS guy.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 21:57:27 No.14390089 File: 255 KB, 1280x720, 20151109171840.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14388081 Probably. What the fuck is going on? Is that guy buying his own games or something? I really can't image people liking this.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 21:58:29 No.14390096 >>14390089 *imagine

Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 22:01:20 No.14390111

Where can I find a list of recently translated VNs? Every few months I get the urge to read something but I can only find lists of works in progress.

Whenever I try to search VNDB for new releases I just get like 600 pages of generic 5 hour nukiges and homo shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 22:01:53 No.14390113 Mikandi seems to be considering a vita port for their kickstarter. On one hand, it'll get more attention. On the otherhand, actually being able to fulfill such a promise is highly in doubt.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 22:04:46 No.14390119 >>14390111 https://vndb.org/r?q=;fil=lang-en.released-1.olang-ja.type-complete;o=d;s=released complete patches only

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 22:13:39 No.14390163 >>14390113 It has no chance of getting funded regardless of what they do.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 22:28:26 No.14390244 http://games.seiha.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1095

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 22:30:42 No.14390257 >>14390244 Cool, Bunny Black was pretty fun but the dungeon exploration fucking sucked and it was way too fucking hard. Thank god for cheating in these gameplay eroge.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Nov 22, 2015 23:45:09 No.14390610 File: 53 KB, 599x337, CUd_lpBVAAEpbUC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] professionaltranslations.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:01:49 No.14390649 >>14390610 They need to get herkz to edit that up.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:05:01 No.14390654

>>14390610
Well, they only put desu in the subs on the empathetic unnecessary character speech perk desu and not the ones from normal speech.

Which is still pretty bad since desu isn't English and this is supposed to be an English translation.

At least they proved that they have someone to translate. Not sure what their editor thinks about adding desu in.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:05:41 No.14390658 >>14390610 too literal?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:06:23 No.14390661 File: 317 KB, 600x526, 1440221895439.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14390089 probably the same losers who like OELVNs like Kawata shoujo

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:07:08 No.14390663 >>14390654 I think leaving it is better than trying to come up with something arbitrary in english to replace it with, like "believe it!"

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:07:24 No.14390664 >>14390610 what is this?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:08:24 No.14390668 >>14390664 Libra from MikandiJP

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:11:02 No.14390681

>>14390654
I kind of wish that localizations would capture speech quirks like that. There's characters that say -desu or -ja at the end of every line and it's not captured in the translation. Of course it's impossible to properly localize without just putting the Japanese suffix in there which never fits with the English text. On the other hand, it's not really a solution to just say "listen to the audio and you can tell there's a speech quirk", because there's some more subtle ones.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:12:33 No.14390686 >>14390681 If you believe that the only way to capture speech quirks, and that is not even a speech quirk, is to mechanically substitute words, you're already fucked.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:25:06 No.14390745 https://rancetranslation.wordpress.com/2015/03/09/an-update/ I don't know what you Rance fags are whinging about. 2016 is the year

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:34:43 No.14390777 >>14390610 What an awful translation, it should be "Hai desu".

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:40:06 No.14390799 >>14390681 Or, if you were properly translating and not butchering, you might come up with an English speech quirk that both makes sense and has the same, or at least similar, effect instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:41:50 No.14390805 >>14390799 Maybe something like just attaching ", yeah?" at the end of every sentence. But people would definitely complain about that even though it conveys the same effect in English.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 00:45:30 No.14390816 >>14390610 Awful.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 02:04:30 No.14391063 >>14390745 Yeah, right, if everyone buys 10 copies of Haruka. MAYBE.

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Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 04:23:45 No.14391470
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>>14391245
Why do people care so much about censorship in visual novels?
Do people really want to see badly drawn dicks that badly?
Artists barely put effort in drawing things that are going to be censored in japan, so when they get uncensored, they usually are really bad, or even have to be added in by external decensoring.

And why are they censored in japan?
Who knows. All porn in japan has to be censored for whatever reason.

I rather have censored material over not getting it at all because the producers refuse to give the uncensored images while the localizing company refuses to release it censored.

I'm also fine with getting censored material in general because it has no influence on the story, writing, sound and only affects very few images for a very small portion of an image. (unless nukige)

Unless youre reading a visual novel for pictures of dicks, you shouldn't mind censorship.

If you hate censorship so much, become involved in politics in japan.

Also unrelated reminder that choosing not to localize and release something =/= censoring it.... pedos.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 05:21:53 No.14391625

>>14391470
>Why do people care so much about censorship in visual novels?
I have no need to compromise the art in order to follow Japanese anti-pornographic laws which don't apply to me in the first place.

Do you really think the Japanese artists would draw things censored if they weren't legally forced to? No they wouldn't, and there's no reason whatsoever for westerners to put up with that either.
By the way, it doesn't matter what kind of content is censored, whether it's (subjectively) "good" or "bad" or how much of it is missing. It isn't even just about VNs. Everything which would exist in the original version if artists were free to express themselves in Japan must be present in the western release.

>I rather have censored material over not getting it at all
It's the very epitome of censorship enablers' logic, those very beggars willing to pay for and eat shit they're offered because they have no pride or dignity. Congratulations on having no sense of smell and taste, I guess. I'll have my standards instead and I'll keep demanding quality releases even for shit-eaters' sake.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 05:30:18 No.14391644

>>14391625
I bet most artists are more than happy to be able to cut corners on the parts that would get covered by mosaic. I am against all sorts of censorship, but visual novels have been made with mosaic in mind, which makes taking them away actually distance them from the original vision. At which point it makes one question if the label censorship is even really applicable to the presence or absence of mosaics at all.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 05:34:57 No.14391656

>>14391644
Yeah, visual novel genitals look like shit when uncensored, at least the ones we've gotten. Example: Princess Evangile

Meanwhile, we know some H artists can draw very very good looking genitalia, as evidenced by Fakku's uncensored works. So perhaps some future VN will come out with vaginas and penises that arent' just a rod with the occasional vein and a slit, but none of the uncensored stuff now is any good.

>It's the very epitome of censorship enablers' logic, those very beggars willing to pay for and eat shit they're offered because they have no pride or dignity. Congratulations on having no sense of smell and taste, I guess. I'll have my standards instead and I'll keep demanding quality releases even for shit-eaters' sake.
Anyway, I think it's utterly pointless to argue with these types of anti-censorship people. They see only in black and white, and there's never any reconciliation from them.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 06:05:18 No.14391729

>>14391625
Youre making it seem like censored = shit.
Why is that the case?
Is it a divine rule or law that says censored material is shit?
No its not. Viewing censored things as inferior is just your opinion.
I actually like seeing censored artwork in H scenes and images.

If in the future, there are options to choose censored vs uncensored cgs, I would choose censored regardless of how well genitals were drawn.

I don't want anti-censorship demanders who will refuse to buy something if its censored ruin the market or deny possible releases by making it seem like the anti-censorship opinion is the superior one.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 06:22:00 No.14391759 When I think censorship, I think sex scenes cut wholesale, not mosaics over penis. Seems like the much bigger and more important issue.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 06:56:40 No.14391841

>>14391644
>I bet most artists are more than happy to be able to cut corners
These are not artists then, they are mere manual workers.

>visual novels have been made with mosaic in mind
Quoting myself:
>Do you really think the Japanese artists would draw things censored if they weren't legally forced to?
In no way, shape or form mosaic is a part of the artist's (!) original vision. You just saw so much mosaics that you've developed a Stockholm syndrome.

>They see only in black and white
Indeed, censorship either exists or not, there's no middle ground. One can't be partially pregnant.

>>14391729
Bon appetite, shit-eater. You're the one ruining the market by the way. Unless the money is everything you see in VNs, in which case you can fuck right off back to whatever shithole you came to /jp/ from.

Oh and for the record: I'm not talking about mosaics in particular. I mean anything interfering with the freedom of expression.
People better than myself pay with their lives for that right. Too bad that some posters here are incapable of understanding this evidently, but hey, the world is not perfect.

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>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 06:57:47 No.14391844 >>14391759 That is the much bigger and important issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 07:03:58 No.14391858 >>14391245 Who is next to MG-chan?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 07:07:51 No.14391875 >>14391858 JAST. I'm sure if they still actually have her as a logo.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 07:09:36 No.14391880 >>14391875 *not sure

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 07:17:57 No.14391905

>>14391841
The artist's original vision includes following the law, believe it or not.

Anyway, if you're talking about things that interfere with freedom of expression, simple market forces are a much bigger issue than anything else. How many eroge do you see these days not set in a high school, or with anything but 4-6 pure virginal heroines (who must each get their own route), etc.? Not fucking many. You basically can't break the mold or take risks in this medium anymore if you want to stay in business. That's the eroge industry's biggest problem, not something as trivial as mosaics.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 07:25:24 No.14391933

>>14391905
>You basically can't break the mold or take risks in this medium anymore if you want to stay in business
Except gakuenmono sales are dwindling rapidly, eroge fans are damn tired of this shit and voicing dissent loudly, and non-school stuff attracts attention from everybody and actually sells well.
"Our boring copypasta shit didn't sell well, so we will make even more boring and more generic shit" is not "being risk-averse", its just being clinically retarded and it will benefit everyone when these fuckers will not be able to stay afloat anymore and bankrupt in masses.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 07:36:34 No.14391983 >>14391843 I thought you were dead Beato.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 07:55:10 No.14392044

>>14391933
>non-school stuff attracts attention from everybody and actually sells well.
Such as? Eroge sales are down in general, but gakuenmono still dominate the sales charts. Even Sakura no Uta, the most anticipated scenarioge in years, and which largely followed the "rules", was outsold by Primal Hearts 2 of all things.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 07:59:21 No.14392057 >>14392044 Such as that dorei no seikatsu which everyone is talking about. Nothing talks more about starved for change market than bad doujin getting over 100 million yen of profit.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:09:26 No.14392084

>>14392044
Everything?
If you go check monthly sales charts, you can see that there would be one or two gakuenmono in top, then non-gakuen stuff and nukige, and then other 20 gakuenmono moege which sold like shit.
So its "do something non-standard and attract attention and get at least guaranteed spot in top 10" vs "do usual shit and get either in top 5 or flop".

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:11:07 No.14392088

>>14392057
Okay, but that just serves to prove my point. That sort of thing could only get made as a doujin game, which is exactly the problem.

Believe me, I hope seeing the success of that game convinces a few commercial eroge companies to take some risks, and if they do, I hope eroge consumers reward them by actually buying their games. Really hoping Last Cavalier does well next month, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:16:25 No.14392106 >>14392044 > was outsold by Primal Hearts 2 of all things. That's because Primal Hearts 2 is actually better than Sakura-shit. Nothing wrong here.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:17:54 No.14392112 >>14392084 Not counting nukige and gameplay stuff, I don't really see that being the case. Basically everything in the top 10 spots consistently follows the "~5 virgin girls in a school plus maybe some cheesy magic shit" formula.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:19:54 No.14392119

>>14392112
>Not counting nukige and gameplay stuff
Why would you exclude them?
Rance 03 is exemplar case, no school, not everyone is virgin (heck, that idol girl was slutting her way to the fame), yet it sold like hotcakes and outsold most of moege of month.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:26:17 No.14392141 >>14392119 Because gameplay stuff is to some extent a different (and bigger) audience that doesn't care that much about the rules that VNs have to abide by. It's great that they get some freedom, but I'm a VN fan more than an RPG fan.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:31:41 No.14392162 >>14385955 Mangagamer finishes their projects, which is enough for me. I cry everytime for subahibi.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:33:33 No.14392169 >>14391625 >>14391841 It's a real shame that so few people exist with this kind of mindset about censorship. I for one, completely agree with you.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:35:41 No.14392173 >>14392141 Rance 03 is closer to pure VN than to RPG. Gameplay there is very rudimentary compared to other games of series.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:38:00 No.14392179 >>14392173 Huh? It's quite blatantly an RPG. >>14392119 >>14392141 Rance 03 is a shit example because 1. It's from a big well known series with an existing fanbase. and 2. First Rance game to be voiced.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:41:45 No.14392194 >>14392179 >First Rance game to be voiced. So?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:43:41 No.14392201 >>14392194 Fans of previous games may have bought it to see what the voices were like?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:56:34 No.14392250 File: 42 KB, 307x318, 1418494484491.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is nobody translating Angel Beats?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 08:58:00 No.14392258 >>14392250 Just MT it like all the cool guys.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 09:29:55 No.14392348 >>14392250 I don't see anyone bothering now that Visual Arts is interested in localizing their own titles.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 09:43:00 No.14392402 >>14389158 >Steins;Gate Redone from the fantranslation, or redone from the initial release? Should I download a patch to apply to my disc?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 10:13:24 No.14392505 >>14392106 If you're functionally retarded it is, yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 10:21:04 No.14392521 >>14390681 But every time someone does, people complain about script rewriting

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 10:45:15 No.14392595

>>14390681
>Of course it's impossible to properly localize without just putting the Japanese suffix in there which never fits with the English text.
Wouldn't a fairly good translation of arbitrarily using "desu" even when not necessary, be using "like" even when not necessary?

I don't really know why people act like English has no common speech quirks.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 11:09:59 No.14392661

>>14392595
Well, you're on the right track, but that'd only be a good if your process is:
>There's a speech quirk
>It can be to be replaced with literally any other speech quirk

Which is unfortunately what a lot of dumbfucks use. See the Steins;Gate random meme replacement fan translation. The desu quirk and valley girl speech characterize in two very different ways. I've seen more commonly for desu overuse of "so", which serves a same purpose as an unneeded emphasizer, although that could just be because the pool of professional translators is pretty small and that's just what one guy likes.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 11:11:10 No.14392664 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/narcissu-10th-anniversary-anthology-project/posts/1423446 looks like dovac made it with 47 hours to spare

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 11:17:14 No.14392676 >>14392664 How unfortunate.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 11:23:11 No.14392684

>>14392661
>>It can be to be replaced with literally any other speech quirk
I don't actually think this. Obviously you can't just use any quirk imaginable.
But overuse of "like" or "so" shouldn't be that far off linguistically speaking. Though I admit that there are different associations associated with the given quirks.

But to be fair these associations differ even among English speaking people. Yet the quirks can consist. You can have a quirk in America associated with a certain type or group of people and then have the exact same quirk in Britain be associated with something else. You don't even need to travel overseas. Associations can easily differ from just one region to neighbouring one.

So unless the association is just too strong, one should probably not get so hung up as to not even consider the translation.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 11:28:08 No.14392700

>>14392664
Why does Sekai Project even have fans who put up with this bullshit, supporting kickstarter after kickstarter of theirs?

And whenever there is a Sekai Project discussion on normie places like Reddit or /v/ and whatever have you, it's full of people adamantly defending them.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 11:31:24 No.14392711 >>14392700 Stockholm syndrome.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 12:09:29 No.14392841 >>14392700 lol good one

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 12:20:09 No.14392881 Gahkthun dropped out of MG top sales chart. Storyfag once again proved that they are only good at shitposting on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 12:48:03 No.14392968 >>14392881 How would we get money when we don't have jobs?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 12:50:14 No.14392982 >>14389371 Why aren't you helping? >>14390244

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 14:49:59 No.14393454 Clannad is available. How long before we get torrents?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 14:56:49 No.14393474 >>14393454 >This game will unlock in approximately 1 hour

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:08:33 No.14393514 >>14393454 You can already play the fan version. It's the same translation. No amount of upscaling is going to fix the shitty art anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:09:22 No.14393518 >>14393474 Okay. Now. It's unlocked now.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:09:30 No.14393519 >>14392664 Guess all that spamming they did on plebbit worked.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:10:47 No.14393523 >>14393514 Yeah but I want the version that's official so I can feel like I'm sticking it to Sekai.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:25:21 No.14393557 I want to translate a VN. Any tips?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:27:22 No.14393568 >>14393557 Know Japanese. Or Google is your friend.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:29:01 No.14393574 >>14393568 I was thinking I'd just machine translate it then clean it up after so it looks good. Do I really need to know Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:30:47 No.14393580 >>14393574 Nope. Sounds good. Go for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:44:02 No.14393627 http://steamcommunity.com/app/324160/discussions/0/485622866450287883/

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:46:38 No.14393640 >>14393627 they're also closing and deleting all negative threads, can't wait for it to blow up in their faces

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:48:53 No.14393654 >>14393640 I doubt it'll blow up. People get real defensive over Clannad.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:49:40 No.14393659 >>14393640 Yeah, they're also telling everybody they're not allowed to stream anything beyond the first 3 hours... Man, these guys are ridiculous, why won't they just bankrupt already?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:54:35 No.14393688 I noticed something super fucking suspicious, some of the reviews of clannad on steam have them with over 40 hours of played time. Looks like they're seeding good reviews.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:55:44 No.14393693 >>14393688 This surprises you?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:56:05 No.14393697 >>14393688 Those are review keys that were sent out early. I'd rather see that than people giving good reviews with 5min on the game.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 15:57:51 No.14393709 >>14393697 You only need 5 minutes to see it's the same as the fan translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:00:32 No.14393722 >>14393697 >review keys sent out early >to a key fansite >with only three games on record >one is Planetarian, a 5 hour game, with 60 hours played Okay

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:02:47 No.14393732 >>14393722 You're right. It is a Key fansite. I take back my statement. They're also running a giveaway: http://kazamatsuri.org/introducing-the-clannad-bookclub-win-a-copy-of-clannad-on-steam/

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:03:45 No.14393737 File: 128 KB, 721x389, steam_top_sellers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Apparently keytards are buying it even at this fucked up price point.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:05:45 No.14393748
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>>14393627
>Alt-tabbing out of the game will cause a temporary system lockup and potential game crash

What the fuck? How the fuck did they manage to do that with a goddamn visual novel?
Reminds of the days when i played WoW way back on a toaster that barely met the minimum specs.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:06:39 No.14393755

>>14393627
>Alt-tabbing out of the game will cause a temporary system lockup and potential game crash
>For some configurations with the setting "Language for non-Unicode programs" set to "Japanese," the game will fail to launch and create multiple processes of itself
How did this even get past testing? Why do people still keep believing Sekai Project is worth defending? Why do people keep giving them money?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:14:24 No.14393790 >>14393748 Might have been a problem with the original game. I know Galaxy Angel had the same problem

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:15:23 No.14393794 >>14393737 Wouldn't the thousands the KS backers count toward the sales total?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:16:59 No.14393805 >>14393790 Galaxy Angel also had a game portion with actual physics and shit. Also, wasn't officially released in 2015.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:24:17 No.14393846 >>14393737 The weird thing is that Key itself is advertising it for cheaper. So...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:25:30 No.14393854 >>14393755 > How did this even get past testing? It's a huge game, not MG's cheap nukiges. It's hard to find all bugs.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:26:37 No.14393863 >>14393854 The size of the script has little do with why it crashes when you alt-tab or why it's busted on Japanese language settings.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:27:13 No.14393868 >>14393854 >It's hard to find all bugs. But these are easy to find. Alt-tabbing and launching in jap locale. It is not like they had to go through the whole game.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:27:51 No.14393872 >>14393854 > It's hard to find all bugs. Are you idiot? They listed these bugs themselves BEFORE game went live. They are selling it knowing full well about defects, no need to "find" anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:28:42 No.14393878 >>14393790 Just because the original had issues doesn't mean the English version has to. KnS2 and Gahkthun's missing lines are fixed for their English releases. Not to mention KnS2's slow text skip issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:30:05 No.14393888 >>14393854 You could double the size of the script and bugs would not be any harder or easier to find. Code well, and include basic automated tests as part of your process. Simple shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:50:13 No.14393968 It's the second kamige Sekai released this year and you guys still thinks Mangagamer is better with spamming their crap?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:54:13 No.14393977 >>14393968 MangaGamer actually releases notable games that haven't already been translated into English.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 16:54:29 No.14393979 So is the script actually the same or are people talking out of their ass as usual?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:00:45 No.14394009 File: 341 KB, 580x700, 1401530019180.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14393968 >$50 No.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:07:47 No.14394049 >>14393968 It's the same as the old release, except now, you can pay $50 for it. God tier publisher.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:09:29 No.14394059 >>14394049 Don't forget all these awesome extra features like locking up whole system when alt-tabbing.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:11:53 No.14394071 >>14394059 And a built in dictionary to define dango and oniichan for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:13:19 No.14394079 >>14393737 Clanna was worth $80 dollars when it came out in Japan. This is actually cheaper.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:15:28 No.14394091

>>14394079
All VNs are sold at 8000 yen price point. But when localized, they are sold at 30-40$ price, so SP is ripping off everyone for extra 10$.

And before usual SP bullshit about "but clannad is huge!11", clannad is actually even shorter than first grisaia, and has much simpler text and worse art assets.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:15:46 No.14394093 >>14394079 It ain't 2004 and nothing no one in the West pays Japanese prices for PC games.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:21:27 No.14394130 >>14394091 Then read it in japanese like everyone else. Who gives a shit what SP does?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:21:59 No.14394134 File: 187 KB, 200x200, 1394407921672.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14394091 >clannad is actually even shorter than first grisaia

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:28:02 No.14394156 >>14394049 Stop lying, What about new content in Grisaia and retranslation and HD in Clannad?

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:28:08 No.14394159

>>14393968
Sekai has released Devil on G-String, the first Grisiai, and Clannad. All fan translated, and all took months for release for some reason. Everything else they released either has no porn, or is a doujin product no one really cares about.

Mangagamer has released KnS2, Princess Evangile, No,Thank You!, euphoria, and eden all this year, from scratch translations. These are all longer then any of the doujin things Sekai has put out, and didn't need kickstarters.

Mangagamer is also set up to release Beat Blades Haruka, Tokyo Babel, Yurirei, Myth, Ozmafia, Umineko chapters, and Supipara Ch.1 all next year plus some. Sekai has what? A few decent titles that haven't even begun translation yet, and a bunch of English and Japanese no name doujin things? The only thing of worth they might release next year with any quality is the first Grisaia fandisk.

Sure Clannad is a bigger title name wise, but I'm not going to respect a company that literally added bugs to the fan release and maybe qc'ed it, plus is censoring their negative feedback. I have no idea why anyone would.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:30:21 No.14394170 this going to be good, anyone else want to report sp? https://twitter.com/christaran/status/668917816435859456

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:31:04 No.14394174 >>14394156 >retranslation kek

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:31:56 No.14394177 >>14393737 Wouldn't that be because of thousands of backers plus a few idiots buying it? I doubt thousands of people are actually paying fifty dollars for anything other the newest triple A thing like Fallout 4.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:33:03 No.14394181 >>14394177 I don't think redeemed copies count, but I could be wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:33:52 No.14394187 >>14394159 The 18+ version of the Grisaia localization didn't get any added content. It's also less stable than the fan TL. The content added to the all-ages version is very minimal.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:38:09 No.14394210
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Lemnisca has dropped everything, so we will never get 12riven translated.
Why, again, is them teaming up to make an official translation a good thing, if it means that their progress goes from 2 titles a year, to less then 1 title a year?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:38:21 No.14394211 Rate the translation. https://youtu.be/CLEo-Q3J4s4

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:40:07 No.14394222 File: 79 KB, 716x768, CIA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14394211 >I wasn't alone Uh, you don't get to bring friends

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:41:03 No.14394227 >>14394211 fantl is better because it's free

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:41:35 No.14394234 >>14394181 It doesn't them, the chart is ranked by revenue.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:42:53 No.14394246 >>14394181 It doesn't count them, the chart is ranked by revenue.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:47:28 No.14394278 >>14393979 >So is the script actually the same or are people talking out of their ass as usual? >>14394211 Seems like it was the latter.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 17:51:45 No.14394296 >>14394278 >https://youtu.be/CLEo-Q3J4s4 At least they got rid of a ton of that awful passive voice used in the fan TL.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:05:40 No.14394377 Apparently there is a beta patch for the PC version of Eiyuu*Senki using the PS3 translation. http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=69329216#69329216

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:06:24 No.14394380 The official TL is much better. Much, much better.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:08:24 No.14394392 >>14394227 Fan-TL is inferior in every other way.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:12:41 No.14394405 >>14394380 Not comparing it to the original translation, is it good on its own merits?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:13:08 No.14394407 >>14394392 Yep, it seems like a huge improvement. And if you want it for free, you'll be able to pirate it just like the old one.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:14:09 No.14394411 >>14394380 >>14394392 What are current rates per post? I could use a side-job now.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:18:43 No.14394428 >>14394407 Yep. People avoiding this translation because it was 'by Sekai' are morons.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:27:27 No.14394470 >>14393794 >>14394177 It reached 2nd place now, so unfortunately people are actually buying it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:46:38 No.14394567 >>14394211 It's funny because both contain the same translation errors.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:48:28 No.14394578 File: 44 KB, 521x557, 1439866545540.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14393737 >fucked up price >руб

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:52:04 No.14394601 >>14394578 It's $42.49 while on sale where I am.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 18:53:08 No.14394610 >>14394578 Russia master race.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:14:25 No.14394702 File: 102 KB, 1023x402, CUiA6pDUEAAIKGM.jpg-large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:17:40 No.14394714 >>14394702 Well fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:18:43 No.14394717 >>14394702 Nice. They're just making stuff up.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:19:42 No.14394718 >>14394702 Japanese line: 俺なんかは常習犯だったからなんとも思わないが、真面目な奴なのだろう…

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:24:58 No.14394745 The fan translation of that line is also shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:25:07 No.14394748 >>14394702 >>14394718 Can't be true, even retard wouldn't fuck it up like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:27:42 No.14394758 >>14394748 There's a reason Sekai isn't exactly forthcoming with who's working on their projects.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:29:36 No.14394767 >>14394296 Those sentences were fucking annoying. At least these guys can actually write a sentence, the fan translation was inept bullshit. "Continuing to fall down even now, it covers my body in white." Fucking hell...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:30:12 No.14394768 >>14394758 The translators are in the credits

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:32:19 No.14394777 >>14394768 How many were there? I've been wondering since they never gave an exact number before release.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:34:05 No.14394783 >>14394702 Wow they're both garbage for different reasons. Shocking.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:36:05 No.14394792 >>14394783 That's the worst officially translated line in the 5 minute comparison posted on Reddit, which had the fan and official side by side. What everybody knows is that the fan-TL gets much fucking worse. It really is a clusterfuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:37:46 No.14394796 >>14394296 There are still mistakes here and there but it's a pretty substantial improvement overall.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:40:06 No.14394804 >>14394702 I think we found the single line /jp/ will nitpick for eternity.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:44:31 No.14394822 >>14394792 Yeah I'm not about to dispute that the fanTL is complete garbage, but SP's version appears to be full of bizarre turns of phrase that only vaguely resemble English.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:52:22 No.14394840 So it's a fact that between the fan translation and SP's, they are different? What's with all these fucken faggots lying about that shit then?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:54:19 No.14394852 >>14394840 they're mad about people reading a bad VN with a better TL

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:54:34 No.14394854 >>14394840 Nothing. People complain that SP only releases modified scripts of already existing translations.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 19:59:18 No.14394870 >>14394852 Better than shit still leaves a lot of room for being shit. Especially since they're working off the TL that doki said they were completely redoing with zero translators in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:01:07 No.14394882 >>14394822 >bizarre turns of phrase Really? :S

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:03:03 No.14394892 >>14394870 they didn't use Doki's TL at all

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:06:54 No.14394908

>>14394892
Then it's an amazing coincidence that the same translation errors are in both. Like translating "day off" as "holiday." Any asshole who has read anything in Japanese at all, or anybody with an ounce of sense, knows that Japan doesn't celebrate weekly holidays. And yet, there we have it, mistranslated in both.

What it looks like is that it's doki's super edited up script because the purpler the prose, the better the writing, also probably run through Google Translate to catch the most egregious errors like in that comparison.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:10:44 No.14394925 >>14394908 It could be that the other TLs weren't as good as the good one that worked on the official release

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:12:23 No.14394930 >>14394908 You're making up more shit than a fuwanovel translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:12:41 No.14394933 >>14394908 But the first definition in JDict is always the correct one.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:14:48 No.14394941 >>14394908 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/holiday?s=t 2. any day of exemption from work (distinguished from working day ). "Holiday" and "day off" are synonymous, learn english.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:14:56 No.14394943 >>14394908 What are you talking about? The word 'holiday' can be used to signify a 'day off', it doesn't have to mean 'official public holiday.'

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:16:01 No.14394948 >>14394908 Learn English pls.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:16:35 No.14394950 >>14394941 >>14394943 Bitch, if you refer to the weekend as a holiday (fan TL) or a vacation day (official), you need to move to an English speaking country and learn to speak English.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:17:30 No.14394952 >>14394950 you must be white af

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:18:16 No.14394957 >>14394908 Look dude, I don't like SP either, but if at this point you're still insisting that these are the same source translations, you're just delusional. >>14394950 Holy shit dude, you can't be this stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:18:54 No.14394959 >>14394950 So now it's no longer 'day off' but 'weekend', and now the official tl and fan tl are no longer translating them the same, but in fact are different. You're full of shit, give me the lines.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:19:30 No.14394962 >>14394957 Get back to me when you understand English.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:20:58 No.14394966 >>14394962 Come back when you understand English.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:21:42 No.14394969

>>14394959
He's saying literally it's not a day off (from school). Here in the west, we call that the weekend. It's not a difficult concept if you're not retarded. You'd have to be retarded or not actually understand how shit works in Japan to call that a holiday.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:22:57 No.14394976 >>14394969 And even stupider to call it a vacation for that matter, which shows that the official TL is a misguided attempt to pretty up the original.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:24:11 No.14394983 >>14394976 why do you keep insisting that they used the fan TL

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:24:36 No.14394984 >>14394969 Eh, needs context, without context it can go both ways. It's not a massive problem in any case, the point comes across.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:25:13 No.14394987 >>14394983 Besides what was just explained to you?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:25:40 No.14394990 >>14394983 Because he convinced himself that was the case months ago and needs to idiotically double down on his preconceived narrative.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:26:17 No.14394995 >>14394990 Hi, Dovac. Don't you have better things to do with your time? Oh, that's right, you ragequit Reddit and Twitter. I guess not.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:26:33 No.14394997 >>14394987 Can't really believe you unless you show me the actual lines

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:27:26 No.14395001 >>14394091 I find it pretty scummy that they aren't even honoring the price point that VisualArts advertised it at, but whatever. Not like I was going to buy it either way.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:28:19 No.14395007 >>14395001 > they aren't even honoring the price point that VisualArts advertised it at Because that was never gonna be the price point

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:29:35 No.14395013

>>14394211
I think they actually did a better job editing it than I really expected of them, maybe After Story will actually be readable now.

It's obviously not a "new translation" though. Every line is way too similar in wording and interpretation to the original translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:31:00 No.14395019 >>14394377 That's kind of cool, though it seems the H-scenes are not translated and I doubt these guys have any intention of doing them.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:32:01 No.14395023 >>14395013 The original Japanese is the same, you know. I am legitimately baffled as to how someone can watch that comparison video and think that it's not a new translation. How dense can you be?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:32:04 No.14395024 >>14395013 No dude they translated it from scratch trust me

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:33:11 No.14395027 File: 35 KB, 1067x284, 1448323101883.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14395023 Yeah, I just bring it up because that is what Sekai initially promised. But then, these guys being compulsive liars is nothing new.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:33:20 No.14395028 >>14395019 Ecstatic at the possibility of a PC patch though. If all that needs to be done is the H-scenes, surely someone will finish the job?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:34:14 No.14395033 >>14395023 Japanese is a null subject language. English is a subject prominent language. That's how.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:34:15 No.14395032 >>14395028 I dunno man, who wants to go translate a shitload of porn like that? Fuwanovel's probably our best bet and you all know what to expect if things go that route.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:35:16 No.14395038 >>14395028 Count on Fuwanovel to Fuwalate it again.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:36:06 No.14395045 Did dovac spend all his profits on shills?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:36:46 No.14395048 >>14395045 He spent it on dinner with your mom

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:36:57 No.14395051 >>14395027 Industry veterans!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:37:03 No.14395054 >>14395045 It's the same trolls who defend every Fuwalation.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:40:47 No.14395073 >>14394969 It's one of those things that always pisses me off to see, like translating ojii-san as uncle every single time. Yes, that's a possible valid meaning, but 99 times out of 100, it's contextually wrong, and obviously so.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:40:53 No.14395074 LOL at the person who always starts sobbing about 'Sekai shills'.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:41:19 No.14395076

>VNTS threads usually full of Sekai haters
>VNTS thread when clannad comes out full of people defending Sekai

Nice try Sekai.
Fan TL: 4th grade writing and bad TL
Sekai TL: Attempts to "improve" writing via thesaurus.com and unnecessary sentence manipulation and bad TL

Pick your poison.
Or Just watch the anime.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:41:46 No.14395078 >>14395076 The anime's better anyway

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:43:51 No.14395084

>>14395076
>VNTS threads usually full of Sekai haters

There's only one or two haters saying the same things over and over, and who usually starts crying when they start to get ignored, everybody else doesn't like their business practices or Dovac but will acknowledge when they do something good.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:44:02 No.14395085 It must suck to be so distrustful of anything your circle-jerking community doesn't approve of that you can't enjoy anything good in life, like the new Clannad translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:45:23 No.14395095 >>14395084 Since they've yet to do anything good, I guess technically, that's true.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:46:00 No.14395098 >>14395084 >will acknowledge when they do something good. You guys aren't even trying anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:47:04 No.14395101 >>14395084 You're witnessing them doing something good now. Which is why there's only one or two people in the entire VN community who's dissing the official tl.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:47:55 No.14395103 File: 68 KB, 450x338, ss_dc41bc62311b8273ecdec07e530f6b1ac4bceaa3.600x338.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14395085 > good in life

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:48:24 No.14395106 >>14395098 Finished sobbing? Need another tissue? A diary for when you feel like whining like a little girl?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:49:02 No.14395107 >>14395076 Or another option: don't consume Clannad because it's garbage regardless.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:49:42 No.14395113 SP's Clannad script has the Herkz seal of approval, that's all I need.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:50:15 No.14395116 >>14395103 You're grasping at nothing now.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:50:28 No.14395117 >>14395107 This. I'd go dig for mistakes and stuff, but I get strong nausea whenever I see this down syndrome art.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:54:01 No.14395140 >>14395113 Just like script of Subahibi.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:54:50 No.14395145 >>14395140 And Chiruchiru.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:55:22 No.14395149 >>14395106 Thanks! I'll wipe the the tears with my money I'm not spending on your awful script editing.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:56:57 No.14395159 >>14395149 Still bitching? If you have nothing else to say, buy a diary and whine in that.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:58:43 No.14395170 >>14395159 If you don't like our "bitching", go earn your cents elsewhere, shill. This board knows too well how fucking awful everything your company does, suck it up.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:59:44 No.14395177 >>14395159 Don't worry friend, I've been bitching on /jp/ for 7 years. I know this is your first time here but get used to it.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 20:59:50 No.14395179

>>14394702
Well, this just seems like a liberal take on the line, spelling out what was implied. I would've worded it differently, and tried to work in his judgement of her personality ("She must be one of those goody two shoe types" or something), but it's not a wrong translation per se.

It gives me the impression that the translator knows Japanese all right (unlike people here who can't see beyond the literal dictionary translation of the line), even though I don't personally agree with the approach he took.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:00:57 No.14395186

>>14395170

It's not /jp/'s bitching, just yours. It's not the world's fault Dovac raped your mother like the little fucking bitch she is, and shoved his cock so far down your throat it penetrated your uterus, so spare us your bullshit and suck it down quietly like a good little bitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:01:06 No.14395187 >>14395179 Original japanese line doesn't have anything about her "being concerned".

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:02:16 No.14395197 >>14395186 >us stupid dovac's whore trying to fit in, how pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:02:59 No.14395200 >>14395197 It's just Ti9 picking whatever side he knows will get the biggest rise out of everyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:03:27 No.14395203 >>14395197 Fuck off back to your street corner where you fucking belong. Take your mother with you, fucking 2 cent hookers.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:03:36 No.14395204 >>14395186 looks like someone forgot to take her ritalin today

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:10:08 No.14395242

>>14395187
>He makes the judgement 真面目な奴なのだろう because she looks concerned. You should know that in creative writing, especially in such a nuance heavy language like Japanese, literal words make up just a fraction of what implications do. The question is, how can you salvage most nuance / image in English to give the readers a similar feel to the JP version, not parrot the words.

If you had Ixrec translating this, you'd have something horrible like "She must be serious!".

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:10:48 No.14395246 So where's the copy of clannad that i can download for free? Six hours since release and nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:11:14 No.14395249 >>14395204 Weak. Try again bud, do better this time.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:17:04 No.14395279

>>14395076
Not really. I still hate Sekai, and refuse to buy anything with their name on it, but this version does look like an improvement. There's no reason to pretend otherwise just because you don't like the company. It might not look as much so on lines that were already not among the worst there were, but look at some of the shitty parts of After Story or Kotomi's route and it should become obvious

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:23:44 No.14395314 I think I'll miss "no valid string, make a ticket about it" ...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:41:05 No.14395403 Is it just me or does it just look like they prettied up the old translation?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:45:05 No.14395424 >>14395403 Everyone except paid shills noticed it too. Same mistranslations everywhere between both versions.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 21:48:43 No.14395441 File: 687 KB, 806x628, CUiDAwpWcAMwSOE.png large.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14395314 I thought you were joking...

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 22:22:04 No.14395573
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>>14395028
Yes, I'm sure the Fuwanovel people will do a great job at translating porn scenes.

They're the most dreaded ones to work with for translators. You can't just transcribe all the weird porn sounds that comprise 90% of the dialog or else it looks retarded in English

Still, it'll be better than nothing.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 22:24:19 No.14395586 >>14395573 That "uguu" made me laugh the most.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 22:38:27 No.14395670 File: 60 KB, 1082x492, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looks like some of the Clannad physical-only backers aren't in a good mood right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 22:40:22 No.14395678 Isn't it free for developers to give out keys to people anyway? Or do they think the physical backers were going to buy the digital copy at some point anyway?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 22:41:51 No.14395686 >>14395678 Some people paid for both, so they'd just change who'd they'd be pissing off if they gave the physical-only backers keys.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 22:43:03 No.14395689 >>14395670 Totally expecting SP go tell them to take refund or pay for digital copy and shut up.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 22:48:54 No.14395714 Once again Sekai mishandling the mechanics of running a business.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 22:53:56 No.14395736 >>14395714 The digital and physical versions were separate products during the kickstarter. People paid more if they wanted both. This isn't Sekai's fault this time, it's just people who feel entitled since they backed the project.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 22:58:25 No.14395757 >>14395736 Yeah, makes sense. Physical copy delays are kind of inevitable anyway. Discs need weeks to a month of lead time for printing so it's either delay everyone or delay a small group of people.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:02:06 No.14395768 >>14395757 > delay a small group of people. Looking at the tiers, 3,000 of the backers were at physical-only tiers.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:17:00 No.14395806 >>14395768 That's more than I thought, but the steam audience is gonna be way bigger. How long is the delay anyway?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:19:40 No.14395816 >>14395806 Latest update says the physical goods will likely ship late January or early February.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:22:56 No.14395825 Another Sekai kickstarter when?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:27:49 No.14395843 >>14395757 >>14395736 Except that they promised the two would be released at the same time, not months apart.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:29:04 No.14395848

>>14395816
lol physical backers if you want to play it so badly just buy it on steam for 50 dollars or 42.99.

Is what sekai project is saying.
all planned obviously.

Why is it that all the bad aspects of Sekai Project are always confined to /jp/ while all the review sites and "news" sites simply act as advertisments and promote Sekai Project as God?
Are there any honest journalists?
Is Sekai Project's power of censorship that strong?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:31:05 No.14395852 >>14395848 I've seen some bitching on reddit but of course, it got downvoted to hell. Fucking hugbox.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:36:32 No.14395864 >>14395852 Downvoted, which auto hides it, and bans the person who posted it. All SP needs to do is create 2-3 accounts each and they can easily squelch anything themselves.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:38:32 No.14395872 >>14395864 Who the fuck even thought that was a good idea for a message board?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:39:49 No.14395880 >>14395864 You don't get banned. Perhaps if you're overly inflammatory and sound like a troll, yeah. And plenty of posts shitting on SP get upvoted.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:40:04 No.14395881 >>14395872 Only opinions that makes you feel good should be read.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:45:57 No.14395905

>>14395880
You get shadow banned, so you post, and you can see your post, but nobody else can. That's almost worse.

And no, not just if you're inflammatory. People, especially on that piece of shit subreddit, just downvote the shit out of everything that they makes them upset, including, but not limited to, things like pointing out mistranslations and Fuwanovel 'translators' saying that they don't actually know Japanese and use machines to read for them. I am not fucking kidding.

Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:51:42 No.14395925

>>14395905
>You get shadow banned, so you post, and you can see your post, but nobody else can. That's almost worse.
Now you're just making shit up and fearmongering. Shadowbanning is only done by the administrators and is a problem, yes. But posting on /r/visualnovels isn't going to get you shadowbanned. The mods there won't even ban you unless you're legit trolling.

You can shit on SP all day and you won't be banned as long as you're not overly inflammatory about it. Like I said, there's tons of SP hate on the subreddit and they're not downvoted. Likewise, there are supporters and both get their voices heard just fine.

I've also seen posts mention MT without a swarm of downvotes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/3tsy9f/translation_status_updatediscussion_nov_22/cx8ygu6

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:58:19 No.14395949 >>14395925 >Now you're just making shit up and fearmongering. Feel free to go look at the Alternative Projects threads where people pointed out the infamous Chicken Divers machine TL and were downvoted to fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Nov 23, 2015 23:59:34 No.14395954 Reddit being shit obvious but why are the comments on other communities so positive? Not one sentence on Siliconera how SP fucked up.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 00:03:18 No.14395973

>>14395925
>there's tons of SP hate on the subreddit and they're not downvoted.
This is straight up bullshit. Things recently that got downvoted and hidden. Complaining that SP blocked someone after they won an artbook. Complaining that Clannad is too expensive. Jesus Christ. Saying "I liked the anime, but I'm not that excited about the game" was enough to trigger the little hugbox shits into a downvote frenzy.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 00:11:21 No.14396005 >>14395954 Because KS isn't designed to be a preorder system, so as long as a project delivers eventually, it's considered a success. Broken KS deadlines and promises are par for the course for the platform.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 00:13:56 No.14396014

>>14396005
Also, all that matters to the outlets is the main release, and it's easy to spin delays as struggling, but overcoming. They don't give a shit that it took much longer than promised, stretch goals have been abandoned or forgotten, and the quality of the release is immaterial.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 00:35:16 No.14396089 The downvote system on Reddit is just a passive-aggressive method of bullying. And circlejerking, then bullying alternative opinions is common behaviour on 'progressive' forums. You know the type.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 00:37:37 No.14396101 >>14396089 Like 4chan? Because god forbid someone says something that disrupts the echo chamber here.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 00:41:53 No.14396112

>>14396101

4-chan is the other end of the spectrum. You’re welcome to say shit as long as you can back it up, it’s up to you to back up your opinions otherwise you can be called on them. It's chaotic, it's harsh, but it's not the same. On Reddit, it doesn’t matter if you back up your opinions, people can downvote you to oblivion so it’s ‘out of sight’. Like they don't want to see your opinions and so they'll shoo you away, and then people will patronisingly say it's your attitude or behavior. Some of them are worthy of being downvoted, others not so. In other places they’ll get the mods to suspend your account.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 00:43:49 No.14396120 >>14396112 You're welcome to say whatever shit you want even if you don't back it up. >>14396101 You don't know what an echo chamber is.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 01:07:05 No.14396198 Calm down guys, everybody poops.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 01:18:12 No.14396215 >>14395179 The fuck? The original translation is not just a little wrong, it's completely wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 01:36:42 No.14396276 >>14396215 It's pretty different, but depending on the context I think it might be an acceptable localization choice. Been a long time since I read it so it's hard to remember exactly what came before/after.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 01:58:58 No.14396327 Who cares about Clannad, really.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 02:02:58 No.14396342 Higurashi is out of the top 5. Is AJTilley MangaGamer's Winged Cloud?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 03:37:42 No.14396585 >>14396215 I was talking about the official translation. Original translation is completely off, yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 03:39:42 No.14396588 >>14396585 Oh, right. Yeah I dunno, the new translation is probably trying a bit hard, but it's not bad. Given there's 5 different translators split over the routes they probably aren't all the same quality though.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 06:12:23 No.14396874 >>14395670 How fucking cheap. In the MuvLuv KS you get a digital copy if you backed any of the physical PC/Vita tiers.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 08:56:30 No.14397291 Hopefully people will learn from the experience not to back Sekai kickstarters anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 11:37:49 No.14397725 >>14397291 Normalfag never learn.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 16:28:40 No.14398499

>>14396112
Whenever I say something positive about Sekai, I get called a Sekai shill. If there are any other responses, they're either ad hominems or complaints about how evil Sekai is and only someone who hates visual novels would support them (and you should feel bad, you Sekai supporter you). It's much less common that someone replies actually addressing the arguments, and when it does it's followed by a chain of replies that quickly devolves into shit-flinging.

And some social control is indeed necessary. For one, it keeps people out that can't fit in (it's what keeps people from mentioning Katawa Shoujo in a remotely positive light here; the moment you allow that you'll be overrun by newbies that don't even try to pretend they have a clue what they're talking about); at the same time, it reduces the harm blatant trolling (not sure if I can even call it that with the lack of effort and lack of interesting replies) can do. In this thread, for example, we'd have been better off we had cracked down on shit like
>>14385616
>>14385955
>>14388898
>>14389038 (not as much trolling/shitposting as drama from elsewhere)
>>14391470
and so on. Thread quality would improve drastically if we could remove obvious shitposters.

>>14396120
An echo chamber is when information supply reinforces existing beliefs while excluding information that goes against said beliefs. In this case, I think some people's insistence that the Clannad release is based on the fan translation is excellent evidence that these threads cause an echo chamber effect. After the weekly two minute hate against Sekai, some posters just cannot comprehend the possibility of Sekai doing anything positive. On the other hand, I was positively surprised to see that the majority of the posters here accept that the Clannad translation is good, so perhaps the echo chamber here isn't as bad as I suspected.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 16:31:36 No.14398509 >>14398499 >In this thread, for example, we'd have been better off we had cracked down on shit like Sorry, this is not steam forums, you cannot delete posts you don't like, dovac.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 16:32:36 No.14398510 >>14398499 You are the only "obvious shitposter" here.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 16:35:58 No.14398523 >>14398509 You forgot your trip.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 17:45:34 No.14398717
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>>14398499
People are calling Sekai shit because of stuff like this. Mind you their asking €12.99 for half assed work like this.
The text in the intro vid and ED credits is also untranslated and dont get me started about the actual translation that full of little errors and awkward sentences. And dont even get me started on the changed character names like Lisa to Risa.

Sekai reminds of one of those devs that flooded the Wii with low quality shit so they could earn an easy buck until the hype dies.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 18:02:46 No.14398763 >>14398499 Still not what an echo chamber is, dipshit.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 19:14:15 No.14399039 The dev for Atom Grrrl tweeted that it's supposed to be released on Steam this year. I'm thinking it'll have to be censored, since CG I've seen make it look more graphic than Yurirei is.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 19:18:26 No.14399053 >>14398763 Not him, but are you really so retarded you don't even know how to use google?

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 19:20:38 No.14399058

>>14399053
Here's a helpful hint, you imbecilic troglodyte. If counter opinions are being expressed and addressed, it's not a fucking echo chamber. An echo chamber does not mean that one side is represented more than another. An echo chamber does not mean that there is a minority opinion. Stop trying to use words you don't understand, you inbred dixie cup of piss.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 19:42:29 No.14399140 >>14398499 tl;dr muh feels

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 19:42:38 No.14399142 >>14399058 Being mean is a microaggression form of censorship. You're censoring them every time you say something they don't like.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 19:43:50 No.14399146 >>14399142 But the only person trying to delete posts is this >>14398499 special snowflake.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 19:45:03 No.14399152 >>14399058 >If counter opinions are being expressed and addressed They're occasionally expressed but never addressed. Unless you think posts like these actually address anything. >>14398510 >>14398523 >>14398763

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 19:48:11 No.14399157 >>14398523 meant to quote >>14398509

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 19:48:51 No.14399162 >>14399152 If only there was a place where you can downvote people so you won't have to see their offending posts and give you the pseudo self-importance you so richly desire.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:00:42 No.14399203 >>14399162 Replace downvote with berate and you have 4chan (and more specifically this thread).

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:01:31 No.14399206 >>14399203 And? You can berate people but you can still see their posts.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:02:45 No.14399209 >>14399206 Berating is the same as censorship. If he doesn't have a safe space to express his opinion and people to agree with him, he's as good as enslaved to the patriarchy.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:06:21 No.14399219

>>14399203
If people didn't act like faggots then people wouldn't call them out. Due to the beauty of how being Anonymous you can basically drop a conversation chain and come back in the thread like a new person and no one would be any wiser. You could bring in a new twist to the argument without looking like some shill for example.
Also your posts don't get hidden for people disagreeing either. If anything the more people disagree the more your post becomes visible from people replying to it.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:24:51 No.14399266

>>14399206
>>14399219
If every post you make is met with immediate derision you probably wouldn't feel inclined to continue posting. Ever wonder why posts like these
>>14398499
are so rare but ones like these
>>14399142
>>14399209
are so common? Its because the former goes against the status quo and apparently shitposting is your form of downvoting.
(For the record, I do agree that downvoted posts shouldn't be hidden).

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:26:06 No.14399272 >>14399266 Nobody cares about your fucking feelings. To post or not is your decision.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:34:51 No.14399296

>>14399266
Just means you are weak minded and not dedicated enough to your argument. If you cared enough then you would ignore shitposters and have satisfaction that the only kind of responses people have is stuff like ad hominem. But no, you have to go on and on about how hurt your feelings are.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:37:25 No.14399305 >>14399266 If every post you make is met with derision it probably means you're being retarded If you want a hugbox go somewhere else

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:43:17 No.14399318 >tfw he linked to his own post as an example of something that there needs to be more of

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:48:24 No.14399333 >>14399272 >>14399296 I hope you guys aren't trying to insinuate that my feeling are hurt. >>14399305 Care to explain what this guy >>14398499 or I said that was so retarded? >>14399318 Come on, buddy

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:49:59 No.14399340 >>14399333 > this guy >>14398499 or I Do you hoestly think you are fooling anyone here?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:53:50 No.14399352 >>14399340 Luckily your belief isn't required for something to be true.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:54:14 No.14399353

>>14399333
Yeah, you fucked up what an echo chamber is, you declared everyone who thinks SP is shit is just a hater, you said thread quality would be better if everyone who disagreed or called out other people on their bullshit was gotten rid of AND anybody doing that was a shitposter.

So, in fact, you do want Reddit, where you don't need to see any opinions but your own and you can touch yourself, secure in your little safe space. Feel free to fuck off back to there so you can downvote people saying that they're not excited about Clannad's release and how SP is not god's gift to the world.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 20:54:27 No.14399354

>>14399333
>Care to explain what this guy >>14398499 or I said that was so retarded?
Saying
>we'd have been better off we had cracked down on shit like
For starters.
And that is without even going on about whining about people calling you a Sekai shill as you was bound to get responses of people calling you one with that line, just to get some more butthurt out of you.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 21:15:21 No.14399410

Since you guys seem so adamant that we're
the same person I guess I'll just roll with it.
>>14399353
>you declared everyone who thinks SP is shit is just a hater
where?
>you said thread quality would be better if everyone who disagreed or called out other people on their bullshit was gotten rid of AND anybody doing that was a shitposter.
where?
You can't call other people out on their bullshit when you're providing a fresh supply of it yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 21:19:29 No.14399426 >>14399410 WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF MY FEELINGS BEFORE POSTING?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 21:26:14 No.14399451 >>14399410 In the post you yourself linked, chimp fucker, which could be reduced to >people are censoring me and my opinions by calling them stupid, and thread quality would be improved if they were all gotten rid of.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 21:30:49 No.14399462

>>14389774
>Do Japanese hate their own games that much?
Probably actually. I mean if you're in that genre particularly you have massive budget and staff limits so having to settle for for shit just to be able to release something would be a regular occurrence anyways.

Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 21:39:03 No.14399481

>>14399451
You may want read his post again because I don't think even YOU believe what you just wrote, not without ample amounts of mental gymnastics anyway. Remember, you can't call other people out on their bullshit when you're providing a fresh supply of it yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 21:40:03 No.14399484 >>14399481 Downvoted.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 22:06:57 No.14399585 >>14399481 You bore me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 22:10:31 No.14399594 File: 14 KB, 251x251, get out of jp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14399142 >microaggression

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 22:12:28 No.14399603 >>14399594 It was sarcasm, dude. He's making fun of those idiots.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Nov 24, 2015 22:59:23 No.14399724 Mikandi's got an ama up on reddit's /vn/, but it's scheduled to end in a couple minutes with three questions asked and answered. Well done. https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/3u63a1/hi_im_james_project_manager_for_the_translation/

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:24:28 No.14399947 Winged Cloud has defected to MangaGamer, I guess that reconciliation with Dovac wasn't very heartfelt.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:28:28 No.14399962 >>14399947 Is MG trying to fill their store with garbage?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:38:10 No.14399999 >>14399947 At least MG is offering their editing and QA staff and text wouldn't look like weeaboo fanfics.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:38:46 No.14400002 >>14399999 Dare to dream.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:39:46 No.14400006 >>14400002 Source says Swim Club on MG site was already edited by MG staff, so maybe some brave /jp/ster will check it out?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:41:42 No.14400010 >>14400006 Why would you wish that kind of suffering on someone?

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:41:53 No.14400011

>>14399947
>I guess that reconciliation with Dovac wasn't very heartfelt.
When did they supposedly make up? I remember Sekai posted on their Steam forum and told people to look up WC's patreon to see what they had planned, which was basically cutting them out of the picture. Seemed passive aggressive if anything.

>>14399962
They can make a few thousand dollars per release with almost no work, why wouldn't they agree? I keep telling myself that it will go toward licensing better works.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:44:06 No.14400014

>>14400011
It's just that those fuckers make a game every month. I would be fucking annoyed if I kept seeing their games on the front page. And I thought their sales were getting lower and lower for each game. They're only surviving on their patreon.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:44:07 No.14400015 >>14400011 >why wouldn't they agree? I wish I could say pride and standards, but we know that sure as shit isn't true.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:44:39 No.14400017

>>14399999

It won't change the weeaboo nature of Winged Cloud's works. Because the weeabooness is done 'on purpose' as a 'satirical work' and so editing and QA won't touch it. Winged Cloud will be as shitty weaboo under MG as they were under Sekai, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:51:34 No.14400035 >>14400014 Sakura Beach 2, which release on November 6th, is at 4,289 ±1,583 according to Steamspy. Steam sales will likely increase that figure though. Of course, it's also a sequel and WC's fanbase mostly prefers their other artist.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:55:52 No.14400053 Winged Cloud may be shit, but atleast they're better than AJTilley At this point, the damage they've done to the "vn community" is done. They might as well just keep on doing what they're doing. And mangagamer might as well get in on the action.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:56:28 No.14400054 >>14400015 A bit too late after all those MorningStar games. DESU, even Sakura stuff looks like improvement in comparison.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:57:24 No.14400058 MG in interviews: VNs can be so much more! Then goes to add AJTilley and WC shit

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 00:59:37 No.14400068 >>14400058 Can be doesn't mean have to be.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:04:45 No.14400083 >>14400068 Indeed. It's just missing a word. VNs can be so much more worse.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:09:06 No.14400094

>We’re happy to announce that we’ve partnered with English-language visual novel developer, Winged Cloud! We’re really excited about the prospects this new partnership holds for Winged Cloud and visual novels. Their games have always been well known for their artwork and their sexy situations, but we believe this partnership will help Winged Cloud explore their strong suits with less content restraints as they start challenging themselves in a new direction. We want to help nurture their visual novel development as they continue to grow.

How drunk were the MG staff when they were forced to write this diarrhea?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:11:02 No.14400100 Clannad is on first page of top sellers for second day, 132 reviews already. I completely underestimated keytards, I have to admit.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:11:05 No.14400101 >>14400094 Marketing bullshit at its finest. Jesus Christ.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:11:27 No.14400102

>>14400015
Pride and standards are for businesses who make comfortable amounts of money. Chucking popular garbage on their site gives them a few extra bucks and if someone comes along to buy the latest Winged Shit release and gets interested in one of MGs games, then it's a win.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:12:11 No.14400103

>>14400094
> but we believe this partnership will help Winged Cloud explore their strong suits with less content restraints as they start challenging themselves in a new direction

Oh I see. They want porn and Sekai are all-ages. NukigeGamer to the rescue.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:17:40 No.14400122

Partnering with Sakura is free money. Why would you reject it?

People like to buy that shit for no reason, but sales are sales. MG will get money for doing minimal work.

Their editor will be able to easily edit a garbage script to a decent one without putting in much effort get get paid.

WC, under the advertisement of MG, will get more sales to fund more creation of garbage to repeat the endless cycle of free money.

By endless I mean, after a few more cycles, sales will start to drop and they'll try to gain credibility by using the remains of their funds for a final gambit, one that will result in becoming a masterpiece, a revolutionary OELVN kamige.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:20:19 No.14400126

Since we're talking about distributing porn games, hey haro, mikandi seems to be interested in talking to distributors. You could pass that along to evospace, or whoever would negotiate or make such an approach.

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/3u63a1/hi_im_james_project_manager_for_the_translation/cxc8n59

Also stop hating lolicons, mang.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:29:54 No.14400163 >>14400122 >Their editor will be able to easily edit a garbage script to a decent one without putting in much effort get get paid. False. Unless he's going to rewrite it for them wholesale, that is. And I don't mean edit, I mean 'write'.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 01:41:29 No.14400222 >>14400017 Yeah, sadly. Not much will change under MG.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 02:24:16 No.14400365 Higurashi Chapter. 2 top spot again while the first chapter is in fifth.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 02:40:44 No.14400405

Well, let's look at the responses I got on >>14398499.
>>14398509 shill accusation
>>14398510 ad hominem
>>14398717 Sekai is evil and I should feel bad
>>14398763 insult
>>14399140 ad hominem
>>14399146 ad hominem
>>14399266 chain of replies devolving into shit-flinging
>>14399333 (same chain of replies)
>>14399340 (same)
>>14399354 (same)

>>14399058
>If counter opinions are being expressed and addressed, it's not a fucking echo chamber.
Even if half of the time, those counter opinions come from me? Not to mention the presence of counter opinions does not mean it's not an echo chamber - tumblr and twitter are full of counter opinions. They just barely get any attention.

>>14399142
You're using terms people disagree with, but you're more right than you'd expect. Telling people to piss off, accusing them of morally shady things and calling them names are all forms of social control. When a newbie comes in and says 'I just played Katawa Shoujo and nothing else, recommend me something', you likewise give a negative reaction to prevent that person from joining the group. It's no different. I'm sure a lot of you would actually like me to leave and/or stop saying things that go against the majority opinion here, and aren't responding to me because you really want to hear my opinions on your arguments. By trying to get me to leave, you're attempting to remove opinions you don't want to hear.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 02:49:58 No.14400428 >>14400405 My feelings > Your feelings

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 02:50:17 No.14400430 If winged cloud put a lolige I would unironically buy it, for real

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 02:56:05 No.14400439 >>14400405 I'd like you to stop shitposting like a retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 03:03:33 No.14400450 >>14400405 Fuck off faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 03:26:42 No.14400504 Man this thread got killed fast.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 03:33:07 No.14400530 >>14400504 It got clannaids - herkz2016

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 03:51:09 No.14400573 >Tomoyo After - Picked up But I thought Doki Fansubs finished this two years ago. What's this then?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 03:53:20 No.14400578 >>14400573 Oh, I just read the news... >Steam Is it going to be R18?

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 04:56:15 No.14400722

http://community.muvluv.moe/index.php?/topic/158-share-the-luv-giveaway/

>I'm not on the winners for this round

I'll be taking that free trip to japan thanks.
1/140,000 easy.

Most people probably entered for that goal. Im pretty sure half of the rewards are going toward people who have no interest in visual novels at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 05:18:09 No.14400771 >>14400722 >Im pretty sure half of the rewards are going toward people who have no interest in visual novels at all. Well that's good because half the prizes have nothing to do with visual novels either.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 05:28:57 No.14400795 http://blog.mangagamer.org/2015/11/25/mangagamer-partners-with-winged-cloud/ To the surprise of nobody, the change was indeed so they could make porn 2 more pieces of shit incoming as well

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 05:41:08 No.14400829 >>14400795 Please don't compare shit to winged cloud products. Its insulting to shit

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 07:11:18 No.14401057 Not sure if any there's any fujoshi here, but this seems like a dedent price for Amnesia http://www.wingamestore.com/product/4950/Amnesia-Memories/

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 08:55:18 No.14401437 >>14401057 That's an amazing price holy shit. Almost free. How is the translation?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 09:33:59 No.14401541 >>14386711 Setsuna route has been fully translated and uploaded all at once, except for H-scenes which should be done soon too. But no editing at all, it's just a rough TL. Chiaki and Mari are getting a bit of progress too.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 09:37:31 No.14401548 >>14401541 >it's just a rough TL Nice way of saying machineshit

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 09:41:30 No.14401560 >>14400405 That's not what ad hominem is, you fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 09:49:06 No.14401584 >>14401548 Nice way of showing that haven't checked the translation in two years now, faggot. But I don't blame you. It was shit, I'm just sick of people still calling it machine TL when the staff has completely changed.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 09:51:46 No.14401599 >>14401437 There seemed to be a whole bunch of typos around release at least, but I don't remember anyone criticizing the translation.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:12:01 No.14401645 >>14401584 You know that it didn't get any new translators, right? All it got was people cleaning up the old machine translation.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:16:51 No.14401657

>>14401645
>数日前、依緒が電話で報告したのとまったく同じ行動パターンだったから。
>Few days ago, according to Io's report through phone, she's having the exact same movement pattern.

>そして、その挙動がまた可愛いのも、予想した通りで、そして微笑ましかった。
>As a result, because what she did was so cute, and behaved exactly as I expected, I couldn't helped but smile.

>今こそこうして謝ってるけど、雪菜の心の奥底にある本質は、あの酔っていたときの彼女の方が近いんだって、気づいた。
>Even though she's apologizing now, but as for the true Setsuna, I think she's closer to her true self when she's drunk.

>そして俺が歩き始めると、その視線たちは、俺とその後ろを交互に見て、狐につままれたような顔をしてる。
>When I start walking, Their vision started to look at me and the person behind me, then show a foxy expression.

These are from the route just 'finished.' It's quite obviously still machine translated and whoever's 'cleaning' it up doesn't know basic English.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:18:55 No.14401665

>>14401645
Thanks for proving my point. We've had two active translators for months now (for a while indeed doing "cleaning up" of IC because it needed to be done) But everything after IC is original TL, and two more translators hopped aboard just this week.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:20:28 No.14401672 >>14401665 Your point was that one machine translator has been replaced with a different machine translator?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:21:47 No.14401673 >>14401657 That's because it wasn't cleaned up and the person who did the translation admittedly sucks at English. Machine TL isn't synonymous for "bad, unedited TL" You don't expect me to sit 24/7 on this just constantly editing this, or do you?

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:26:00 No.14401684

>>14401673
That's not just bad unedited TL, champ. It's words literally copied out of machine translators that nobody who knows even basic Japanese or English would use.

On top of mechanical substitution of literally every sound and word in order to fit the Japanese grammar.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:27:01 No.14401690 >>14401673 Ah, the old "Our translator doesn't know English, that's why the spelling is impeccable and has zero typos, but the grammar is fucked up the ass by a two by four" excuse. Been a while since I've seen that. It's gotten no less retarded.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:32:06 No.14401713

>>14401684
You sure seem to know, so why not help out instead of just complaining about it being "machine TL" on an online imageboard? Must be great sitting on that bandwagon since it's about what everyone on the internet has been doing for WA2.

>>14401690
Yeah, that's fair enough. I know it's retarded, but I can't change the fact that it's true.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:33:06 No.14401717

To humor the little shitposter, I checked 5 scripts out of the 14 in that route. All of them were 'translated' by the same guy.

>「なのに、春希が雪菜に向かい合おうとした途端、そんなわかりきってたこと持ち出して春希の手をはねのけるって、一体どういう了見だよ！」
>"But, when Haruki finally decided to make his decision, she bring out something so obvious, and toss Haruki's hand aside, what the hell is she thinking!?"

>依緒に言われるまでもなく、武也に同意されるまでもなく、俺の罪は、俺が一番よく知ってる。
>Even though Io didn't mentioned it specifically, and even without Takeya admit it openly, I'm the sins I've committed the most.

Yeah, this it not someone who knows either Japanese nor English.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:34:19 No.14401722 >>14401713 Because I'm not going to spend hundreds of hours retranslating a game from scratch to give validation to a machine translation project.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:46:25 No.14401764 >>14400103 Oh, so Winged Cloud is going to become the English version of softhouse-seal.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:50:01 No.14401778 >>14400163 I'm sure the Free Friends editor will be more than happy to make script alterations to tell a better story.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:51:53 No.14401788 >>14400222 Unless they can get Nyaatrap to write for the games. The main Winged Cloud artist is the one who worked on Demon Master Chris after all.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 10:52:17 No.14401791 >>14401717 I don't understand why do people want to ruin games like this. If there was justice in the world, these fuckers would get sued and locked up in jail.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 11:15:40 No.14401903 >>14401791 Because they read it like that, and because they don't understand English and have rock bottom standards, they don't think it was ruined. So they consider themselves as doing everyone else a service.

Anonymous Wed, Nov 25, 2015 11:39:20 No.14401982

>>14401713
>but I can't change the fact that it's true.
It's not true. There are linguistic indicators when people are using a language that is unfamiliar to them. They make mistakes in certain ways that reflect their original language and the way they would naturally express themselves. Impeccable spelling and using the same words as Google Translate are not linguistic indicators for any language but stupidity.

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