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Why is virginity so meaningful in Japan?

>> No.14081208
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>>14081197
Why is virginity so meaningless in America?

>> No.14081236

Please stop thinking Japan is anything like your Japanese cartoons.

>> No.14081250

Why is virginity so meaningful to otaku?

>> No.14081251

Are you talking about 30% of Japanese men having wizard credentials?

>> No.14081260

Insecurity and fear of being compared to other men.

>> No.14081322

>>14081236
It's not uncommon for couples to start fuging only after a year or so of dating.

>> No.14081354

because used goods are disgusting

>> No.14081396

>>14081197
>Taking an eromanga seriously.

>> No.14081444

>>14081250
This dude gets it

>> No.14081454

It's funny that just a century or two ago someone would be asking the opposite.

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>>14081197
It's meaningful period.

>> No.14081521

>>14081322
That's because jap men are cucks. I've dated 3 jap girls in Tokyo. Fucked the first one on the third date and 2 others on the second date.

>> No.14081536

Purityfags are the worst.

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>>14081536
Slutfags GET OUT

>> No.14081570

>>14081536
who femanon here? ;))

>> No.14081584

>>14081197

It's meaningful worldwide, and Japan is a part of the world.

>> No.14081593

>>14081197
It's only meaningful in fiction, because that's where all the purityfags retreated after the world was stained.

>> No.14081842

any virg girls ITT

>> No.14081875

>>14081521
protip: japanese chicks who date gaijin because they are gaijin are gigantic sluts and have banged every gaijin they could get their hands on before you met them. your aids, enjoy them.

>> No.14081882

>>14081521
>on /jp/
>fucked anyone
lmao keep dreaming you fuckin sperg

>> No.14081892

>>14081875
protip: white dick is superior to azn cuck manlet's micropenises. Azn girls literally hit on me for being white because they want my semen to improve their gene pool

>> No.14081965

>>14081536
Kill yourself

>> No.14081983

>>14081197
because people don't have sexual intercourse there.
Instead they just masturbate and refuse to talk to the other gender.
Because they simulate activities that would monivate people to have sex: Cuttle clubs, and host clubs.

>> No.14082096

>>14081875
They are just like ordinary japanese women, then.

>> No.14086891

>>14081208
Because sex is great and people want to enjoy their lives

>> No.14087014

I really don't get why people think virginity is a desirable trait. Do neckbeard really delude themselves to thinking women will never love a man until they meet them?

>> No.14087077

>>14086891
used goods detected

>> No.14087095

>>14087014
Somebody had to be first.

>>14087077
Come up with a better answer, then.

>> No.14087103

I don't give a shit as long as she stays faithful to me after starting a relationship.

>> No.14087116

>>14087103
this

>> No.14087355

>>14081892
I dunno they've got those immortality genes right? I woudn't want to fuck those up.

>> No.14087497

>>14087103
Faithfulness is a two-way street, otherwise it doesn't work.

>> No.14087906

>hey people i eat other men's leftover from trashbin it tastes good~

>> No.14088018

>>14087906
So, if you ever had sex even once in your life, no girl will ever want to be with you again because you know, ewww, they wouldn't eat the leftovers from another woman's trashbin. Makes sense.

>> No.14088075

>>14087014
Because virgins are more faithful.

>> No.14088197

>>14088075
In your autismal delusions yeah.

>> No.14090146

>>14081197
Virginity has been valuable throughout history and still is throughout the world; it is only due to the pervasive nihilism in Western culture that it is considered worthless (and yet people cannot connect this "it's all good do whatever #yolo" irresponsible and self-indulgent attitude to the failing of relationships). Not considering it meaningful is a deviation from the norm and there is suffering for it.

Virginity is usually associated with youth, naivete, innocence and purity (not being 'corrupted'). Most girls of the media are school age, where the audience is either pining for something they relate to (nip schoolkids are not as sexually active as their Western counterparts) or, if older, what they won't find in the adult world.
>>14087014
Why do people generally choose a new product over something used if they had the ability to purchase either? There are exceptions but the rule is that people will generally prefer something they can make and call their own over something that belonged to and was used by others. Humans are objects as well as subjects, that is an inescapable fact, and sex *does* matter. It is a fact that couples who married as virgins fare better than the opposite.

These "neckbeards" aren't deluded of anything, they hold to romantic 'ideals' involving love and sex in spite of the reality. You also make no distinctions to infatuation and love and that they do not necessarily lead to sex but that's another symptom of the nihilistic climate, just like our friend here >>14088018 is confused as to think men and women are the same. But hey, if you need to rationalize the ridiculous, go for it. That's how you thrive in a world where everything is cheap.

>> No.14090187

>>14088018
>men and women are equal
nice meme

>> No.14090474

So, are lesbos virgins? Like all those lesbian type characters in those all girl shows that have gotten popular to make, because fans can't stand guys to even be present in their anime.

>> No.14090482

>>14090146
>everything is cheap.
You can buy a fictional virgin for $75 at the eroge store or download one for free online.

>> No.14090501 [DELETED] 
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Fucking a slut is far more enjoyable than fucking a virgin.

You're all fucking deluded troglodytes.

>> No.14090570

>>14090501
Not if you're S.

>> No.14090600

>>14090501
Instant gratification tends to be enjoyable, in the short term. Unless you plan to fuck sluts your whole life, it's terrible in the long term only seeking quick rewards.

>> No.14090663

>>14090501
Enjoy you're AIDS

>> No.14090677

>>14087014
>Do neckbeard really delude themselves to thinking women will never love a man
Do normies really delude themselves to thinking any women actually love them

>> No.14090685 [DELETED] 

>>14090570
Being M is a lot better than being S.

You too in time will come to realize this.

>> No.14090695

>>14081536
I'd london you if you weren't a slut

>> No.14090824

>>14090685
But why.

>> No.14090833

>>14090685
Inflicting and receiving pain both seem bad to me. Pain hurts. I've had enough pain in my life from my parents.
Otherwise, all of BDSM is good except for the S&M part.

>> No.14090851

>>14081197

Natural human behavior (not taking 'spoiled goods' is a claim to your dominance and not letting other men step all over your 'property') + history of arranged marriages + christian influence that made sexuality weird and taboo

>> No.14090863

>>14090851
>Japan
>christian influence
Reminder Japan censoring its porn is its own doing.

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>>14090685
Incorrect
Being an S can be quite more enjoyable than being an M, and this is coming from a previous M

Realize that sadomasochism is the true path and one of the most important factors is pain itself, both giving and receiving. Look inside yourself and realize that you crave pain. Realize that many other people are just like you and also desire pain (and to be submissive).
If you are a true masochist, you should desire to serve people. If most people want pain and to submit, the best course of action to bring others pleasure and be useful is to give them what they truly want.
You are doing a needed service with sadism.

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>>14081197
>implying western values are homogenous
>Not understanding that some people genuinely want to save their first time for someone special
>Being too jaded to realize that some of these people get their wish

>> No.14090878

I wonder if anyone else on my university campus could possibly be into BDSM without the pain.
Pain is frightening, and I'd want to trust someone too, before letting BDSM happen.

>/jp/ blog culture

>> No.14090883

>>14090876
>Being too jaded to realize that some of these people get their wish

It's pretty crazy to think that there are people out there that get married to their first and only love and actually live out a healthy and love-filled relationship throughout their lives.

I wonder if it's common among more religious groups

>> No.14090920 [DELETED] 

>>14090878
Pussy.

>> No.14090924

>>14090920
Being beaten by your parents does not condition you to enjoy pain!
I think the masochists here probably have had really cushy upper-middle class childhoods.

>> No.14090926

>>14090924
What about the sadists then?

>> No.14090927

>>14090883
My mother and father were each other's first partners and married, had two children, and remained commited to each other until the day my dad died in his mid 30s. They met when they were 16 and ran a hairdressing business together for nearly 20 years. My mum then spent 9 years living alone because she felt too guilty to "replace" my dad by filling the hole in her life with someone else. Every relationship since has been short and messy.

>> No.14090937

>>14090926
I have no idea. That idea also scares me. My parents are sadists. I know they're sadists because they're bullies.
I don't feel homesick at all.

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>>14090927
That's sad because it seems even in a perfect relationship, something has to go horrible wrong...

As if nice things are meant to be taken away....
Why did he have to die so young?

>> No.14090954

Because only betas think it's worth anything, and japan is full of betas

>> No.14090987

>>14090949
>Why did he have to die so young?

Because he vomitted in his sleep while lying on his back and he choked on it in his windpipe. There's no way to know if he was aware he was suffocating or if he was asleep through the whole thing, but I'll never forget the way mum screamed the next morning when she woke up and realized he died. She was absolutely beyond reach by either my brother and I for about two days and my aunt had to care for us. Even now my brother, whose older and remembers more, cannot talk about any of it.

When the coroner suggested dad might have been sick due to chronic stress, my mum blamed it all on my paternal grandmother, who used to harrass dad in public after he banned her from looking after my brother and I because she used to pick favourites and pit us against each other, something she did with my dad and his siblings when they were children. I can vaguely remember being carried out of a supermarket by my dad once as he ran away from grandma who was shrieking at us in public when we bumped into her.

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>>14090501
you're right

>> No.14091034
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Purity is valued in literally every society except some backwards tribal ones; it's only recently that it'd even be inconceivable for an unmarried girl to be a non-virgin. Thanks, jews.

>> No.14091035

>>14087014

>>14090677
this

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I'm curious as to how many virgins or just inexperienced girls you guys have actually been with.

I took 3 virginities in my life-time (don't take it as boasting, i have a questionable taste in women anyway, slowly feel like i'm turning gay too), and comparing them to just some whore i fuck every now and then, they're uncomparably worse. Seriously, it's fun the first time cuz you know you're gonna be special for this girl for the rest of your life, but after a while you realise it's barely enjoyable for both of you, and she's just gonna stand there with her eyes closed moaning, not in pleasure, but in pain until you get bored.

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>>14090987
I feel you, dude.
My Father passed away last year from what I would attribute to chronic stress as well, in a rather "Death of a Salesman" fashion.

I don't feel up to blogging about it, but thank you for sharing your story. Let's try to take it easy in our lives so that we won't follow a similar fate.

>> No.14091079

>>14091034
A lot of Western Society's ideals on purity and marriage happen to come from classic Judaic customs and culture. Which also draw from ancient Semitic and Aramaic cultures.
This just shows how deluded and corrupted your viewpoint has become.

Please actually read the bible before you start making accusations.

>> No.14091084

It isn't. It's only important in otaku culture, and even there it's a relatively new thing.

>> No.14091099

>>14091034

Yes, anon. I'm sure everybody throughout history were pure and chaste and never had urges or fooled around or anything. No, it's clearly only in modern society that sluts are a thing.

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14091100

I think that virginity is meaningful not only in Japan and not because of culture. I am virgin and I think that it would be awesome to share my 1st time with another virgin as well. It would be something completely different and unique for both of us.

>> No.14091103

>>14091054
Guys here are thinking long term commitment wise, not just fucks or sexual conquest. If you want to enjoy yourself in the moment, of course you choose the slut or the whore.

>> No.14091114

>>14091099
Promiscuity existing is one thing. Promiscuity being normalized is another.

>> No.14091138

>>14091099
>Book of Hosea
The Ancients tried to warn us about bitches and whores.
We didn't listen

>> No.14091143

>>14091138
>The Ancients
>not referring to the superior Greeks
OK man
Greeks were all bisexual and fun, unlike your monogamous-autism jews.

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>>14081197
I am a 27 yro male virgin.

Does this mean I am very meaningful?

>> No.14091230

>>14091222
your trips are meaningful

>> No.14091501

It's a statistical fact that virgin couples last far longer in marriage than non virgin degenerate scum do.

Just look at how shitty interpersonal relationships have gotten since things like the sexual revolution and feminism. It's snowballing out of control because children are being raised (often by single mothers) by parents that aren't very stable themselves.

>> No.14091624

>>14091501
>Just look at how shitty interpersonal relationships have gotten since things like the sexual revolution and feminism.
finally, something to pin my complete lack of friends on

>> No.14091682

>>14091501
>It's a statistical fact that virgin couples last far longer in marriage than non virgin degenerate scum do.

Can you link your source for this? I tried a few searches but couldn't find anything.

>> No.14091684

>>14081842
> any girls ITT
Fixed it for ya

>> No.14091727

>>14091501

The problem is you're doing the whole 'correlation = causation' thing. Many people choose to remain virgins until marriage due to religious beliefs, the same beliefs which also condemn divorce. Your claims are just farcical as those who claim arranged marriages are the best things ever for similar reasons.

>> No.14091728

>>14091682
you didn't try at all

>> No.14091800

>>14087497
How does that make me any less right?

>> No.14091878

having sex with a non-virgin is like having sex with a used condom

>> No.14091881

>>14091878
I bet you throw away your onaholes after using them once.

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>>14087014
>>14088197
It just wouldn't be a virginity thread without angry fujoshits lashing out over the fact that some people don't find their promiscuity attractive.

Cry me a river, bitch. Head on back to >>>/soc/ with the rest of the brainless "progressive" cunts.

>> No.14091920

>>14091914
>fujoshits
>promiscuity

Are those two terms an oxymoron of sorts?

>> No.14091922

>>14091920
He's probably thinking about your average con slut.

>> No.14091942

>>14091920
The average yaoi fangirl/'weeb' girl actually tends to be really slutty. They aren't quiet shut-ins like male otaku, contrary to what anime or VNs might lead you to believe.

>> No.14091944 [DELETED] 

I bet none of you nerds ever wore a Fundoshi.

>> No.14091950

>>14091942
So you're saying I could go to these cons?

>> No.14091977

>>14091942
American shit girls aren't fujoshi. Fujoshi have unattainable standards and want superfeminine pretty boys while looking like trashcows themselves. They are more virgin than normal otaku.

>> No.14091989

>>14091054
You're literally shit if that's how it turned out. Only had that happen once, with a bit of a sperg.

Sex has TWO threads, just so you know.

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>>14091977
>more virgin than normal otaku.

There isn't a female alive that could pull that off, no matter how hard she purposely tried. No matter how repugnant she is, there's always a group of thirsty assclowns more than willing to fuck her. The same cannot be said for neckbeards, regardless of whether or not they have unrealistic standards.

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>/jp/ - normalfag sex stories

great board

>> No.14092063

>>14091993
It doesn't matter if they want to fuck her, she doesn't want to fuck them.

>> No.14092073

>>14092063
It does matter, for the point you're making. You're making the claim that one group of virgins is "more virgin" than another group of virgins. How do you figure, though?

I'd argue that the group that CAN get laid (fujoshi) are less "virgin-like" than perma-virgins that can't get laid whether they like it or not- your questionable definition of TRU-fujoshi aside.

>> No.14092085

>>14092073
People who have chosen to be virgins (and it's not even rare in Japan, papers won't shut up about herbivore males) will stay virgins even if the situation changes, whereas involuntary would probably give it up given the chance.

Though I imagine that most parents have tried to set up their fujoshi daughters by the time they hit thirty.

This whole argument is fucking stupid, though.

>> No.14092203

All these piece of shit worries need to leave

>> No.14092241

>>14090501

Why would you want instant pleasure over long lasting morality?

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>> No.14092259

>>14091100
Haha ciota.

>> No.14092303

>>14092085
Fair enough.

>> No.14092397

>>14091728
So you don't have a source?

>> No.14092485

Regardless of the politics, the sexual revolution and intro of modern birth control was only like 50 years ago. Why are people so surprised that not every culture has fully adjusted yet?

>> No.14092489

>>14092259
Thank you for your substantive opinion about me.

>> No.14092491

>>14087014
I think you're the deluded one. Desparate neckbeards are pretty much the only men who would marry a pretty slut without reservation if they got the chance.

>> No.14092496

40-year-old wizard in training to become an archmage reporting in.

It's great to possess knowledge no-one of you will ever have.

>> No.14092500

>>14092496
Why are you wasting your time on /jp/ wise old man? Go fuck up the world with your powers or something.

>> No.14092516

>>14081197
>>14081208
Why do young Japanese save their earnings and live frugally to prepare to retirement, while young Americans max out their credit cards and end up working at a gas station when they are 75 because the social security isnt enough to cover the rent? Different culture.

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>>14092397

>> No.14092576

>>14091914
actually both those posts are me and I'm a 25 year old male who's been on /jp/ since the split.

>> No.14092580

>>14091993
I think you're "more virgin" if you decide to be it by choice. You've given up on 3D entirely after all.
If you're involuntarily a virgin you're still a pathetic wanna-be normie at heart.

>> No.14092606

>>14087014
Pump and dump a woman enough times and they basically end up too jaded to love. I know plenty of women who are like this and they are relatively young and havent even been with many men. Honestly love itself is really just a delusion for virgins.

>> No.14092609

>>14092485
Man landed on the moon 50 years ago.

>> No.14092612

>>14092573
Okay.

>> No.14092613

>>14081208
Americans became dumb wiggers.

>> No.14092621

>>14092576
>/jp/ since the split.
What split?

>> No.14092628

>>14092621
the split from /a/ ya doofus

>> No.14092630

>>14092621
He's probably talking about when /jp/ was first created.

>> No.14092655

>>14081197
Having non-monogamous sex has actually shown to mess with your hormones in a way that makes you less susceptible to what should otherwise leave your partner imprinted inside of your mind. Aka love.

During climax you receive a whole cocktail of hormones, who among other things leaves an imprint of your mate if you have sex.
Repeating this process with the same mate strengthens said imprint.
Repeating this process with different mates instead weakens each individual imprint.

And that's not all. The receptors for this process are numbed bit by bit each time the process takes place. Making you less susceptible to the chemicals and less capable to carve strong imprints. No matter if you engaged in the process with one or several mates.
But the person who engaged with just one mate should have already carved a great imprint that can later be nurtured over a long life.
But the person who fucked around with multiple is likely to never even having gotten a strong imprint, while greatly having reduced the chances of ever getting one.

Slutting around fucks with love. And it doesn't matter if you are male or female.
Whores are not reliable partners and are less inclined to love and be loyal.

>> No.14092656

Its hilarious how butthurt non-virgins are whenever they are looked down upon. Face it, unless you were forced, you had a choice to abstain and save your virginity or give it up for sexual gratification. You might not value it, but other people are free to disagree and prefer someone who chose differently.

>> No.14092704

>>14092609
And there are people out there who think the NES is the latest in technology

>> No.14092708

>>14092655
Source?

>> No.14092738

>>14092655
Doesn't that theory implies that you are also fucked if you decide to masturbate?

>> No.14092743

>>14092738
I dunno about just plain masterbation but certainly for porn, so even the pure NEETs here are all probably too fucked to form a monogmous bond with a real person.

>> No.14092744

>>14092738
Supposedly the brain can tell the difference. But who knows. If you put in enough effort perhaps you can fool it. And with the age of VR who knows.

>> No.14092760

>>14091059
Yeah I hear you loud and clear. Sorry about your loss bud.

That said I get the feeling I've inherited my dad's capacity to worry. I can't help but feel an untimely yet mundane end is waiting for me somewhere down the line.

>> No.14092804

>>14092708
It seems fairly common sense to me. However the implications are not so obvious.

It also makes me wonder about the genetic part in this. Is it for others more natural to seek multiple partners, because of differences in libido, or the hormones associated with bonding like oxytocin. Human is among the exceptions to practice monogamous behavior in mammals (wolf and beaver are among the few), it does not seem like it's very easy for most of us: we may still fantasize of sex with others. Also the goat-time-to-ejaculation study comes to mind.

>> No.14092807

>>14092655
Don't suppose you can link us the study? I'm interested in how the dendritic pathways are affected by this if it is true.

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>>14092656
>tfw forced to give it up

I wish I was more brave and assertive.

>> No.14092865

>>14092708
>>14092807
I don't have the studies that I am actually thinking of. But if you check the references for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasopressin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_basis_of_love
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love
You can find studies suggesting the same general thing. The claims may differ some but it's generally understood that these things are what determine attachment and the forming of bonds. And like most compounds you can be desensitized to their effects just like with other chemicals. Supposedly.

Be free to not believe me. I won't claim that I am expert. I have a friend who studied and got into medicine and that person linked me some articles and spoke to me about the subject. So it looks to me like it's likely like that somehow. But it's not as if I am an expert. I am an unemployed drop out who has been a NEET for what is pushing towards a decade. Be free to shoot down all my claims if you can, and if you can back it up I might learn something. But that's the rough understanding of it that I have now.

>> No.14092883

>>14092865
Thanks for linking me to Wikipedia instead of an actual valid study. That sure helped.

>> No.14092893

>>14092883
I chose to link to wikipedia because they link to several studies instead of just a few. A lot of them have differing opinions and conflict on certain points. So I figured it would be better than linking just a couple of studies.
The studies are linked among the references at the bottom of the wikipedia articles. But whatever.

>> No.14092982

>>14081197
Because otakus are pathetic people with 0 social skills and, as such, remain virgins. Since they are worthless and virginity is something that defines them (or, at least, they think it does as everybody who has never had sex and thinks it is a big deal), so the people who want their money act like it is an important trait so they can get their money. Supply and demand, really. Virgins want to feel special and important just for being virgins and people with a brain supply that illusion in trade of money.

>> No.14093174

>>14091920
SJWs are often incapable of having sex due to the fact that ponos in vagoo is misogynist and girls are only allowed to use strap-ons on men.

>> No.14093188

>>14092655
>not knowing that group relationships are the truest form of love
Stay mad, normalfag.

>> No.14093207

>>14081197
Friendly remainder that women retain genetic information from all their sex partners in their blood .

>> No.14093213

>>14092982
Fuck off retard

>> No.14093214

>>14092606
this

>> No.14093217

>>14093207
That's really sexy, and reminds me of how the schoolers in Evangelion have angel genetics

>> No.14093227

>>14093213
He's right you know.

>> No.14093231

>>14093207
The correct term is Microchimerism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchimerism

>> No.14093279
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I refuse to associate with unvirgins on more than cordial terms.
Recently, two girls and one guy wanted to discuss lewd things with me, but the moment they mentioned they weren't virgins I lost all interest. I don't have a virginity fetish or anything, but I feel like I can't openly discuss my fantasies with people who have actually had the real thing, which I suspect it's pretty different.

And of course >>14081260
It's only natural to want to play on an even field right? Specially when you are the one where more expectations are put.
Virgins should be reserved for virgins only, sadly most virgins only care about "losing it".
Actually, I'd probably be more comfortable with a turboslut who has fucked 10000000 men than a girl who's only had a handful, but still a virgin is better.
Society is just gross.

>> No.14093286

>>14091682
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2003.00444.x/abstract

I believe these also have some data on it
Kahn, J., & London, K. (1991). Premarital sex and the risk of divorce. Journal of Marriage and the Family
Whyte, M. (1990). Dating, mating, and marriage. New York: Random House

Research citing the Teachman study may be worth looking into
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=7150440919217704575&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=0,5&hl=en

And here's one from a conservative think thank if you like somewhat biased sources
http://s3.amazonaws.com/thf_media/2003/pdf/Bookofcharts.pdf

>> No.14093299

>>14092500
He came here to bully the wizard apprentices

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>>14092655
Can't make a ho' into a housewife

>> No.14093317

>>14092883
Wikipedia has sources listed

>> No.14093318

>>14092655
This shit actually sounds very plausible. It would explain why I've never loved anyone, real or fictional, at least.

>> No.14093416

Virginity implies a willingness to hold out for the right man, so the idea holds that if you are partnered with a virgin and you take her virginity, then she is bound to you in a manner which no other man can be.

In real life, this varies entirely by the person. While this rule was true in the past, previous cultures, both Western and Eastern, held that women who rejected this rule were essentially worthless, and would receive punishments varying from scorn to death depending on the situation. Coincidentally, frustrated virgins also hold that women who reject the sanctity of virginity are essentially worthless, or at least objects of indifference.

I think some virgins may possess a sense of entitlement in this regards, especially if they are narcissistic. However, I also think that for many, its just the idea that they would have to degrade themselves, either by lowering themselves down into base women or something similar, to even hope for a companion, which would probably be unfulfilling. They don't see any good reason to not hope for the improbable.

If you crave steak and starved for 30 years in want, why go after chicken, which will only whet your appetite?

>> No.14093466

>>14093416
The propensity of humankind to make life more difficult and/or miserable for themselves and for others never ceases to amaze me.

>> No.14093519

>>14093466
I think its pretty simple. By controlling one's ability to enjoy life, you hold power over them.

>> No.14093528

>>14093416
I think you're forgetting that, for many virgins, sex and companionship just aren't that important?

>> No.14093544

>>14093528
This thread is about valuing virginity. I don't disagree with you, but those people would not be the ones voicing a preference for virginity outside of a fictional realm.

>> No.14093604

>>14081197
the only thing that bugs me about this argument is that otaku can't discern the difference between promiscuity and not being a virgin
that aka, if you have a boyfriend, you are a slut who has done a million guys
there was that one mangaka who implied the girl in his series had a past boyfriend and it enraged otaku to the point of destroying the manga and threatening the artist. things like that are stupid because it doesn't allow for a character to have any relationships or dynamics.

>> No.14093686

>>14093604
>it doesn't allow for a character to have any relationships or dynamics.

To be fair, those kind of otaku despise mutable relationships or dynamics in romance. Because it reminds them of real life, where such concepts hinder their already unrealized relationships.

>> No.14093693

>>14093686
right, that was a typo. I mean those kind of otaku prevent characters from having real relationships besides high school first love whatnot.

>> No.14093699

>>14093693
Not really, they just prevent you from making money off the work, unless your story is appealing enough to break out of the otaku market.

It may not seem like a difference, but honestly otaku are just easy money, with the main cost being that you must pander to them.

>> No.14093805

Would you rather be the first person to see the top of a remote mountain peak, or the thousandth?

>> No.14093833

>>14093805
The thousandth, because it means I have more friends who have participated in the experience, whom I can then talk to and be buddies with.
Would you rather be the one and only person to beat the next Touhou game? I wouldn't.

>> No.14093927

>>14093833
The only one? No, of course not.
The first, though--there's prestige in being the first. Pride. Bragging rights. You don't get that when others have done it before you.

>> No.14093969

>>14093927
I must say that this fascinates me as well. I'm someone who tries to consciously deny any experience of pride, but I do find mystery in being the first to see something (like say another planet).

In the case of a girl it would be knowing that this is the first time she experiences such closeness and being the one to see that, and hopefully pleasing her.

However the whole deflowering thing is disgusting to me and I'd hope the girl had already masturbated to get through that.

>> No.14094034

>>14090685
>Being M is a lot better than being S.
And soon she will humiliate you by comparing you to other guy, and proceed to fuck them and says they are better than you. Enjoy you cuckold, cuck.

>> No.14094041

>>14090851
>christian influence
>christmas is an actual fuckfest

>> No.14094044

You shouldn't judge a civilization by comic books.

>> No.14094051

>>14094034
I'm not sure you really understand what the M is short for.

>> No.14094057

>>14094044
>you shouldn't learn ancient cultures from hieroglyphs

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>Glad you don't care about my past, anon! ;)

>> No.14094121

>>14094118
what made you think anybody would want to see that

>> No.14094131

>>14094118
I honestly though that was Anita for a second.

>> No.14094177

>>14094057
We don't have better sources for info on Egypt but we do for Japan.

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kuso thread.

>> No.14094314

any virg girls ITT?

>> No.14094402

>>14090146
Well said.

>> No.14094408

>>14094248
I want to take Ran's virginity!

>> No.14094429

What's really laughable is the recent trend of idealized male virginity in otaku circles. Male virginity was never worth anything and was always ridiculed except in very few cases like ancient German war bands and a few other warrior societies.

I blame feminism.

>> No.14094434

>>14094429
>I blame feminism.
You can blame all of otaku culture on the fragmentation of traditional society.

>> No.14094453

>>14094434
>I blame otaku culture.
You can blame all of feminism on the fragmentation of traditional society.

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>>14094408
There's no freakin' way that that 2hu is a virgin, nerdlord.

>> No.14094493

>>14094453
Chicken and egg problem, maybe.

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>>14094429
"Male virgin" is an oxymoron in some cultures, like that of the mudslimes.

>> No.14094608

>>14094599
Huh
Makes sense at least

>> No.14094615

>>14094599
>The word virgin comes via Old French virgine from the root form of Latin virgo, genitive virgin-is, meaning literally "maiden" or "virgin"—a sexually intact young woman

It's actually the same in English.

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>>14081197
How could this be hard to understand

>> No.14097400 [DELETED] 

bumping this very important thread

>> No.14099235

>>14081197
It's not.
/thread

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>>14090876
Thank you dude you brought my faith back

>> No.14102743

>>14100464
I hate that picture.

>> No.14102765

Holding unrealistic, romantic expectations is a sure way to lead an unhappy, sad life for most people. Not saying "true love" doesn't happen, but it's so rare, I wouldn't count on it. Chances are way higher you'll encounter either a bitch, or a virgin who is just a virgin because she has some serious psychological issues. If you're really lucky and find the true "pure maiden" who wants to stay virgin until she marries (or a similar committed relationship) chances are she will most likely reject you because she also has some standards and expectations.

You have either the choice to become a spineless beta faggot who puts up with the whole shit, or don't give a fuck and stop giving women too much value.

>> No.14102797

There is literally nothing wrong with being a slut. Sex is fun, get over it.

>> No.14102831

>>14081208
Individualist society wants to have a lot of sex so who doesn't is not part of the society and is considered a loser

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>>14102831
An Individualist society wants you to act like everyone else or you aren't part of it.

>> No.14102861

>>14102856
Aint that ass backwards

>> No.14102862

>>14102765
I smell bitterness and resentment.

>> No.14102869

>>14102797
There is literally nothing wrong with being obese. Food tastes good, get over it.

>> No.14102873

>>14102765
I'm a 32 year old virgin who just thinks he will one day meet someone with whom it will just click immediately, without any unnecessary "bribes" or games having to be played.

The problem is that I spend 99% of my free time inside, on my computer. Honestly if you go into activites that interest you and be a person who people actually like to talk to (e.g. not antisocial, though I guess with some couples that is the thing that clicks), you will eventually meet that someone.

Just taking it easy is the thing. It's fucking hard though.

>> No.14102908

>>14092606
Spoken like a true normfag.

>> No.14102916

>>14081197
What's the source of all this de-virging, anyway? Who is doing it? Classmates? Lawbreakers? Do they wait until college and then lose it immediately then? Someone's gotta be first, and it probably isn't always some true love situation.

>> No.14102924

>>14091079
Oy vey!

>> No.14102940

>>14102862
You smellt wrong. Getting all this bullshit out of your head which was planted over years non-stop isn't a pleasent thing and I can understand if some people here get defensive over it, but it makes your life much more enjoyable. I chose to never place a woman above any interest or goal in my life and I'm definitely happier since I made that conscious decission. I saw too many poor bastards being ruined by some romantic ideal meme.

>>14102873
Just don't fall for women and their act. They're cunning and know how to exploit lonely chaps. Think twice, or better trice before topics like marriage or pregnancy get raised I wish you the luck.

>> No.14102942

>>14093604
This, if a girl just had a boyfriend she was committed to but broke up because he was a faggot I don't really see a problem, apart from the idea that someone already drilled the hole which is a bit disgusting, the slut implications aren't there and you can't really blame her

>> No.14102957

>>14093604
>there was that one mangaka who implied the girl in his series had a past boyfriend

I think it was the execution of the plot point more so than that she had a boyfriend in the past.

>> No.14103219

>>14102940
Ah, I get you. I actually agree that is the way but I can't be too lax on this issue. It's how I am.

>> No.14103243

>>14091079
Those customs the Jews reserved for themselves, while they encourage degeneracy among the goyim. Multiculturalism is encouraged in the West while Israel flogs the Muslims surrounding it.

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If she's a kemonomimi, does it matter if she's pure? Like the kind that goes into heat sometimes. Would you only take pure virgin animal girls or is one who had to satisfy its desires okay?

Come to think of it, people tend to prefer puppies and kittens to older animals, don't they?

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>>14107889
It's better to raise her from a young age to establish loyalty and obedience

>> No.14108739

>>14107961
Yeah. With my dick.

>> No.14108748

>>14081197
>>14081208
No hymen no diamond.

>> No.14108778

>>14108748
You do realize that the hymen can be broken by things other than sex, right?

>> No.14108825

>>14108778
Yes, but those are exceptions, even if they happen to be the majority of the cases.

Although there are false-positives, how else am I supposed to know for certain?

>> No.14111691

>>14108778
For instance, dildos

>> No.14111719

>>14111691

For instance, tampons

>> No.14111789

>>14111719
No, just dildos.

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Japan is a 3rd world country in some ways.

>> No.14116168

>>14093833
>whom I can talk to and be buddies with
Heh, that was a good one.

>> No.14116175

>>14094950
Has the thought ever occurred to you that maybe some men indeed prefer to have 7 penis touching than none? Stop judging people.

>> No.14116419

>>14082096
majority of Japanese people don't have chance to meet gaijins.

>> No.14116520

>>14102869
8888888888

>> No.14116529

>>14116419
i will give them the chance ;^)

>> No.14116683

>>14102942
>if a girl just had a boyfriend she was committed to but broke up because he was a faggot I don't really see a problem
>the slut implications aren't there and you can't really blame her
I disagree with this. A girl who had a partner and was in any way committed to him enough to lose her virginity then break up with him loses a lot of value in my eyes. I think it's an obvious sign of being not only naive but having a lack of intelligence to make good decisions. I treat it as a warning sign to never get involved with said girl seeing as you'll be taking on significantly more risk by doing so.

Besides the obvious biological and mental concerns that will arise the main thing that pisses me off about the whole virgin/non-virgin topic is how people falling under either act, especially women. If you think you can just have sex with anyone and expect nobody to change their opinion about you, you clearly don't have a grasp on reality. I've seen numerous women act like they have some sort of superiority to others by being non-virgins, but the second a single person calls them a slut they flip shit. In my eyes a woman who has had sex with a few people is worth less than a woman who has had sex with thousands. Simply because of the likelihood that the woman who has slept with thousands probably thinks of herself as a slut who probably really enjoys sex. She's honest about herself rather than a girl who has had a few partners will deny that she's a slut until the end of time while trying to pretend she isn't just a stupid bitch who can't make decisions and stick by them. She'll probably try to make up numerous "explanations" as to why things don't work out or something like it's not her fault or the like. Men sometimes do the same shit but a guy won't try to use being a non-virgin as a status or insult unless he's really desperate or otherwise severely lacking in other perspectives aka insecure. cont.

>> No.14116713

>>14081197
Why is virginity so meaningful for men in general?

My male friend is really obsessed with my virginity and gets really anxious whenever I say something that sounds like it implies that I've had sex (I never did) or that I'm about to (not a chance either), even though there's nothing between us.

>> No.14116732

It used to mean a lot in the West too, going back at least as far as Rome's Vestal Virgins.

As to /why/, it's probably because sex is seen as dirty, and therefore virgins are pure and untainted, which feeds into human's general preference for cleanliness.

>> No.14116735

>>14116683
I'm not trying to play the blame game or be misogynistic since it is certainly possible to have things happen outside of your control and cause problems even more commonly in relationships. I knew a girl in junior high who went through some shit because she thought she liked a guy only to be dumped by him right after having sex. The guy then went on to spread nude photos of her around the school. He was a giant piece of shit and I knew this since I was acquainted with him myself but even so she made a pretty shit decision. Though having known her for a while I knew she was aware she fucked up and ended up regretting it but being able to move on. She never told anyone though it did end up as a rumor spread by the same guy. She was pretty popular before hand but after all this shit happened she was a loner for the last semester. Really a fucked up situation altogether.

Same reasoning as a couple anons previously said. Virgin or not there are obvious views about each one by a majority of people. Simply enough virgins are seen as more pure and there's a higher chance of finding mutual affection in someone who has only been close to you alone. People who have had sex with more than one person as seen by most people are sluts or loose and don't have any shame or the like. So when it comes to animu girls most people probably would prefer them to be virgins unless it's mentioned straight up that they aren't. It's all about expectations. If you expected to win 20 million dollars from the lottery after hitting the winning numbers only to be left with 1/100 of it after taxes and other bullshit you'd be pretty pissed off. Though if you went in with the expectation to get nothing let alone win and walked away with even 1/100 of the prize you'd be elated.

Everything said I'm a virgin myself with no desire to lose it. I'd rather wait for the one in a million chance to find what I want. Whether or not he/she is a virgin couldn't matter less.

>> No.14116755

>>14116713
>even though there's nothing between us.
You're being a cunt to him and you know it, you know perfectly well he likes you

>> No.14116865

>>14116713
>even though there's nothing between us.
Dat nigga be thirsty.

You need to stomp on his balls and let him know you two are friends, and that's it, that way if he doesn't want that, you can both stop wasting your time.

Pray he isn't a masochist though, otherwise that creates even more problems....

>> No.14116895

>>14116735
if you understand that the situation can be out of someone's control during a relationship, why do you see females as having lost value when it wasn't their fault?
>they made a shit decision
you are aware people can discover another person's flaws AFTER the relationship right? what do you expect? for everyone to enter a relationship and it be perfect all the way and everyone gets married without dating anyone else?

>> No.14116950

>>14116895
It's complicated and people have different hormonal setups, libidos and all, but it's definitely possible. Both my little sisters did this and they have good husbands.
I do think there is a lot that can be done by just being thoughtful, natural and not forcing anything (often done for the purposes of getting sex ASAP).

>> No.14116961

>>14116895
Nah nigga guys would probably not wait longer than a month for a girl to put out. If she can't hold out that long she's a slut.

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>>14081396
>>14081882
>>14087906
>>14090187
>>14090876
>>14091143
>>14091138
>>14091920
>>14092810
>>14093188
>>14094041
>>14094057
>>14094118
Just who the hell are you quoting?

>> No.14117021

>>14081197
Why should I care?

>> No.14117329

>>14116974
nice meme

>> No.14118474

This thread is autistic as fuck.
Quite possibly the most autistic thing I've ever read.

>> No.14118479

Mhmm

>> No.14118925

>>14116713
Tell him directly to cut that shit out. If he persists, end the friendship.

>> No.14120864

>>14081536
I am in agreement with this notion.

>> No.14120891

>>14116755
>>14116865
I already made it clear with him that I didn't like him that way. If he didn't care about just being friends, he could leave any time.
>>14118925
I don't know. It's annoying and kinda sad to see, but I don't think it's worth ending the friendship.

>> No.14120966

>>14116713

The non stupid answer, i.e the one to your actual question, is that boys are raised to value the purity of things. It's more important that its real rather then a helpful illusion.

A girl that hasn't had sex yet is "pure" and due to being a female in his eyes, therefor needing your purity to be protected. This isn't even patriarchy, but more of the dominate/sub roles in a relationship. Men are raised to be the dominant one in a relationship.

>> No.14121144

>>14081208
Why it shouldn't?

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>> No.14121150

>>14090146
literally tl;dr
not joking

>> No.14121155

>>14121150
seriously like it's even conveniently broken up into paragraphs for your reading pleasure and you still struggle with it, I mean come on

>> No.14121175

>>14121155
Did you seriously think I'd read whatever comes out of your ass?

I'm not wasting my time on /pol/ and neet shitposting.

I'm leaving to the nice japan pictures thread.
Bye, faggot.

>> No.14121179

>>14121175
you'll be back
they always do

>> No.14121679

>>14102873
That happened to me and it was incredible. Still a virgin, due to anxiety from many years of telling myself i don't want and can't take part in coitus, but I met a wonderful person who became my close friend and admitted to falling in love with me.
If you want a genuine and real relationship, you don't have to sacrifice very much; you just have to be in places where you'll meet new people, and be a little bit outgoing. Eventually someone will love you for who you are, but you can't be picky about what kind of person they are, or what kind of relationship they've had in the past.
Starting a relationship without any effort like that can attract any type of person.

>> No.14121736

>>14121679
>but you can't be picky about what kind of person they are, or what kind of relationship they've had in the past.
If I can't then I'd rather not have a relationship.

>> No.14122760

>>14120891
>I don't know. It's annoying and kinda sad to see, but I think I can still get some favours out of it.
Fixed

>> No.14122767

I remember getting into an argument with everyone in my high school english class because I said that the main character in the scarlet letter deserved to suffer for being unfaithful.

>> No.14126245

>>14122767
Those sluts should die.

>> No.14126257

All non-virgins should die.

>> No.14126259

>>14126257
what about your mom?

>> No.14126261

>There isn't a female alive that could pull that off, no matter how hard she purposely tried. No matter how repugnant she is, there's always a group of thirsty assclowns more than willing to fuck her.

not in Japan

>> No.14127911

>>14126259
His mom is either a boomer or a gen x, so yeah she should.

>> No.14128562

>>14120966
>is that boys are raised to value the purity of things
No. Stop with your retarded "people are taught to do so" bullshit to explain phenomena that occur across several cultures, if not all of them. When you have a phenomenon like this, the explanation for it is most likely biological.

Men have much lower assurance of genetic parentage than women do. Woman give birth after all, so they can be 100% certain that the child is theirs. Men, on the other hand, can never be sure (we're talking about the era way before dna tests), but what they can do is maximize their chances.

Women who have slept around are risky. The woman you'd mate with might already be pregnant, or they might be mating with other men at the same time. Virgins pose a much smaller risk, and the chances of passing your genes are higher than with the woman who sleeps around.

The man who has no preference for virgins will more likely end up raising a child that isn't his, while the man who has a preferences for virgin will more likely pass on his genes. If this happens for thousands and thousands of years, it's only natural that the preference for virgins manifests in most of men, regardless of their culture, upbringing and whatnot.

>> No.14129751

>>14128562
If the mate is your mate, you can just have more kids with them. People didn't spend most of humanity only having one kid all their lives.

>> No.14132418

What does sex feel like?

>> No.14132921

>>14132418
it feels pretty good on ur dick

>> No.14132930

>>14081197
>Japan
It meant a lot in Rome (before Christianity) and everywhere that was following an abrahamic religion. Onlyn recently did feminist whores start trying to say it's worthless.

>> No.14137609

>>14090146
Found the Virgin

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>>14137609
The Virgo.

>> No.14137640

Emphasis on virginity in Japan is more than likely something they gleaned from the west after the Meiji restoration. Like many new traditions developed during the restoration it's like a bad parody of the original western sentiment. Similar to modern Japanese notions of decency and modesty.

>> No.14137661

>>14090146
Isn't it strange how most religions have a belief that's always something along the lines of "don't be a fucking retarded degenerate" and they're all steadily losing power? I think an apocalyptic purge is in the near future.

>> No.14137691

>>14137661
We should be so lucky. More likely things will just continue in a downward spiral while the political elite keep talking about how great everything is. They'll keep on smiling and bragging about how awesome the future is even as our nations start to crumble around us into squalor and poverty. Just look at the EU.

>> No.14138615

>>14091222
No, it means you are loser by normie society standards. It only means something when you are a cute girl apparently

>> No.14139017
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I am married with another jay poster and we have sex often.

I don't know why you bastards think that sex is so evil, not like we stopped fapping or having fetishes because benis in bagina, if anything having sex is just something else in the list.

>> No.14139019

>>14139017
>I am married with another jay poster and we have sex often.
What's the point in lying on /jp/ out of all places? I don't get it.

>> No.14139026

>>14139019
want a pic of our room, smartass?

>> No.14139048
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>>14090146
You'd think you would prefer buying something second-hand you actually want and find desirable than some cheap looking and plain just because it's new.
The logic between married virgin couples doing better together it's simply because once you eat only one thing, you won't know how the other one can taste and won't feel curious about it due marriage restraints. Oh wait, no, actually, I have seen a lot of religious people cheating on each other too.

Stop theorizing something that should be part of your life as a human being and glorifying virginity just because you can't get arsed to have sex like a normal being or simply because your religious beliefs or morals can't stop blinding you to something it's supposed to be simple and natural. You disgust me more than any other virgin or denegerate that had sex with over 10 people;

>> No.14139054

>>14139026
Sure, why not.

>> No.14139112

>>14139054
he doesn't want me to take a picture because it's too messy. too bad, it will be keep being a lie in your head.

>> No.14139122

i can't believe this thread is still alive

>> No.14139175

>>14139048
We're speaking of products being the same, not different (pretty slimy tactic on your part to devalue the virgin by calling her cheap looking and plain, but very typical of your kind). The new thing would be as appealing as the used thing, possibly moreso because there are more advantages to it than simply being new. Generally speaking (as mentioned, there are always exceptions, subjective experience, whatever), the rule will still apply and people *with the ability to choose between either* will prefer the new thing.

Religious people cheating does nothing to refute anything said. Many of them don't even believe extramarital sex is wrong. That you bring this up is just another poor attempt to make things equal, and meaningless. Same thing liberals do when confronted with harsh realities like black crime rates.

Platitudes, armchair psychology, feelings. Try harder next time, memester.

>> No.14139240

>>14081197
Look at her fucking nipples

>> No.14139368

I just feel that treating the pinnacle of human intimacy as "it's this thing you do cuz it feels good" is really shallow and devalues it almost entirely. I don't really care about "purity", I've just never met someone irl I've wanted to please sexually. Not that it means much coming from me tho since I'm a fucked schizoid who for the most part finds the thought of sexual acts terrifying/revolting.

>> No.14139524

>>14139122
It's like saying "I can't believe I'm on /jp/".

>> No.14139605

>>14081197
because the stigma that come with it. "Good" asian parents are always looking after their daughter so they won't be sullied or sleeping around with random guys.

Virginless girls are thought to be "naughty" uncontrollable girls. Anyway, such stigma only happen in family that still hold traditional value or backward belief. I think pre-marital copulation are more accepted now with women contribute to working forces too.

TL;DR: Women that work and earn their own money have a say now than then.

>> No.14140198

>>14139175
I did not call virgin cheap looking and plain, just look at the facts, if you are going for a nice looking, intelligent girl with similar interests, there is a good chance she is not a virgin unless she's religious or a huge moralfag or simply someone who can't interact very well with other people or just underage. When you cut down to your options, you are left with plain girls, fujoshit, autistic and girls with 0 self-esteem, which leads to bad lifestyle and life choices. No wonder you are a virgin, regarding it way higher than it actually is when falling in love or simply interacting with the opposite sex is not a exact formula where virgin = wife material. Another reason is that you call someone with a different opinion "your kind", but that goes unsaid from a bitter virgin from no less than internet.

>> No.14140202

>>14140198
Forgot to mention that religious or huge moralfag null intelligence due actual intelligent people being able to interact with people and thus build relationships; Your usual "I don't have friends but I am smart because all I do is studying and [insert hobby]" is just plain autism.

>> No.14140219

>>14140202
Sorry for being autistic. I forgot that being autistic isn't socially acceptable like fucking other guys in the ass or sucking cocks in broad daylight.

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>>14140219
I just think it is terrible for you narrowing your options to simply "virgin" when there is so many things to choose in partners. It's not a feature, it's just a consequence, most virgins are still it because they lack opportunity to have sex with someone they regard safe and/or attractive and not because they are disgusted by it or are "pure and angelical" like your everyday 2D girl.

But yes, not interacting with people is autistic, using extremes as example is autistic, both in the literal meaning of the word, since autists can barely use common sense. You don't need to suck cocks in broad daylight or fuck other guys in the ass to simply function and interact with other human beings, just don't forget that mating and bonding with the opposite sex is part of it. Oh well, what to expect from this board when it comes to common sense, especially in this field, I am the retard one here for simply trying to put some sense into you. Your life, your choices, but don't reach 40yo feeling like you could have tried something once or twice before saying it's shit.

>> No.14140266

>>14091079
JIDF pls go.

>> No.14140309

It's only natural for virgins to invent excuses to seek out other virgins, having sex for the first time with a person who already had it is simply degrading.
I lost the occasion in high school by not being a part of society and everyone else didn't, now my experience will be that of an high schooler while my partner will have already passed through it and will have the experience of an "adult".
I lost the loop and can only associate with people who also did, and as time goes on my disparity from everyone else will only grow larger.

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>>14140245

>> No.14140319

>>14116175
C U C K

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>> No.14140332

>>14116713
L O N D O N

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>>14140319
"I am a little special autist snowflake and I would rather think of humans as objects than beings with a soul and a life. My special needs are superior than anything and no woman is too good for me. Disgusting women having sex with men that aren't my special self. Ewww, will rather stick to my 2D and stay virgin than touch disgusting 3DPD who had sex before."

Have you ever wondered why women find you disgusting?
Tip: It's not because of your looks or tastes.

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>>14140312
Fuck this shit, this is now Yuuka thread. I wish she humilliated and crushed the balls of every single virgin in this thread.

>> No.14140350

>>14140319
>>14140332
See yourselves out.

>> No.14140376
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>>14140347
I'm not a virgin. In fact I suspect at minimum 25% of people here aren't. You didn't say you don't mind experience though did you? You said you'd prefer a woman taking seven dicks over none. So yes ewww, the idea that you get off and enjoy the fact is icky to me. You honestly sound like a massive faggot trying to cold read me and generally sounding like some sort of submissive fuccboi with no sense of pride whatsoever.

>> No.14140381

>>14140347
>>14139048
Why rename your meme images, do you have to go that extra step to being more obnoxious?

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>>14140376
Don't put words in my mouth, I said I would pick my preferences over not my preferences, even if the first was not a virgin. You disgust me trying to mimic my post style. You sound like someone who jumps in bandwagons and has no personality (either underaged or simply someone who hasn't reached maturity) with the usage of the term "fuccboy" and attacking me simply because you can't argue against facts, if we are gonna play the cold reading game.
Yeah, because my pride is so fucking fragile I need to solely fuck virgins who don't know nothing else about sex (so I can be an unexperienced beta and she won't notice) and nothing else because women are garbage and I am too special for them, no matter how flexible the preferences of one can be.
Stop projecting when you say I have no pride, your mascunility is one of a boy and I can see why. Please and do a favor to all women in the world and kill yourself or stick to 2D, attempting any sort of interaction at your point is foolish.

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>>14140349
Including you?

>> No.14140437

>>14081208
Kosuzu a cute.

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>>14140433
I am not a virgin but she can bully me if she wants. Or I could just lie, but only god knows what she would do if she found out.

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>>14140408
'maybe some men indeed prefer to have 7 penis touching than none?'

Granted you may not have been talking about yourself there fair enough but that doesn't make passing judgement less valid or something. Preferring used to unused would hint at a cuck like personality.

Mimic your post style? What the hell are you even on about? What's your post style? All this coming from a guy that was so keen to call others autistic too.

Once again you don't know anything about me for all you know I could be a shut in or a fairly social sort that skims /jp/ from time to time for the VN and Kancolle threads. Would you have preferred I said bitch nigga, pussy, shell of a man... et cetera. It all means the same thing. There's no sense trying to come across as mature on an image board.

What facts? What have you said to me that is anything but an opinion?

For the most part women are garbage to be honest. I hold most of them in the highest contempt although perhaps not for why you'd imagine - there you can call me a sperg now. That's irrelevant though.

I have fucked both virgins and non virgins and virgins are better. It's harder. It's a challenge. It's like coming first in a race. As a human being it feels good in a base animalistic way. Man loves to hunt, compete and conquer. That's all I mean by it and that's why I think you lack pride, why I think you're the kind of guy that doesn't mind coming last as long as he still gets his ice cream.

>doing women a favour
I don't suppose you're that sjw I've seen shitting up threads from time to time? Also were 2D real it would be superior to be honest.

>> No.14140459

normies get out

>> No.14140472 [DELETED] 

>>14140452
tbh tbh tbh tbh tbh

>> No.14140477

Virgins are the ideal to me and if possible, I would always try to get a virgin as my life partner. I'm fine with those who only have sex within a relationship though. Cheaters are a no.

Casual sex could be a tricky issue. Deep down I don't like the idea of having sex purely for pleasure at all.

The view toward virginity in the modern Western world is a little bit fucked though. Virginity shouldn't really be viewed as something embarrassing and people shouldn't have any sort of pressure that they need to lose their virginity, even when they aren't ready.

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>>14140452
There you go, you are an animalistic man, simply wants to fuck a virgin because that's like winning something. Well, guess what, the virgins you fucked probably hate you now and the only thing you earned is being able to boast about it in imageboards and some cheap pleasure. Being competitive means shit in sex world nowadays, unless you are a blatant normie and looking for numbers and plain pleasure, which I highly advise you to just fuck non-virgins if that's the case. Finding a signicant other is more important than seeking a virgin, that was my point since the first post but you failed to get it. Seems like the autistic one here is me, huh.

I am resting my case, you are the kind of person that thinks that women are like meat fleshlights and then you start dating this girl that has nothing in common with you because 10/10 qt virgin and seemingly sweet. And then you are happy with that until the day you find out she's not all of that simply because you overlooked her personality and simply focused on her sexual traits, rinse and repeat.

Bye.

>> No.14140485

Nothing wrong with having a preference for virgins.

Nothing wrong with not being a virgin.

Nothing wrong with being a virgin.


There is something wrong with being a weirdo that gets hung up on virginity as a concept though and won't accept a partner that isn't "pure"

>> No.14140490

Women are beasts compared to me. I shall not lower myself...

>> No.14140491

>>14140490
You're a beast too, that's why they don't want anything to do with you.

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>>14140450
You'd get eaten.

>> No.14140500

>>14140349
Yuuka is also a virgin

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>>14140500
Maybe in practice, but she probably masturbates using her umbrella.

>> No.14140514

>>14140472
I'm English, force of habit I'm afraid.

>> No.14140515

>>14140504
>>14140494
>>14140450
>>14140433
>>14140349
>>14140245
Refrain from posting Yuuka in kuso thread, please.

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>>14140515
Do a thread then.

>> No.14140519

300 posts and I never got source for OP's pic

>> No.14140523

>>14140519
It's from 1294590603623.

>> No.14140528

>>14140519
Found the source in 5 seconds.

Good luck.

>> No.14140530

>>14140523
No bully.

>> No.14140551

>>14140528
Well, it took ten minutes, but I found it.

http://g.e-hentai.org/g/571281/ff8c9d6f9b/

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>>14140484
>probably hate you now
Who cares? Seriously what kind of faggot are you?

I didn't come here to boast I only mentioned it because you pressed me on it. I dislike the implication that I'm some sort of pump and dump guy too. If things conclude with a girl it's because they went sour not because I've taken her virginity. Nor am I merely a pleasure seeker, I think it's degenerate. Maybe you think it's autistic to love the thrill of climbing a mountain just to plant your flag on top but I think it's something very human. This said the fact that you said 'being competitive in the sex world means shit these days' shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what being competitive is about. Who gives a shit if it means shit? It's not about doing things to please other people it's for your own sake. What's more I'd really love to hear more of your knowledge of the 'sexworld'. I don't look for numbers either, I'm disgusted everytime I add to my tally, it makes me sad at how easy it is - not just for me for anyone.

Woah hold up were you saying you'd be okay with a significant other on 7 or more dick? Is that what you were saying? Shit no buddy. 2 or 3 is the max on that count. If you want the significant other to be around for any meaningful amount of time that is.

I do not think women are meat flesh lights if anything I think of them as taller children. I hold women in contempt because more often than not they have no personality. More often than not they are easily swayed vapid cunts with no real passion or interest in anything so the idea that I'd find one with similar interests is laughable and even if they did I wouldn't want her to. In case you hadn't noticed we're browsing /jp/ after all and you ought to know all to well how cancerous girls like that can be.

Who do you even think I am? I'd never date a girl I didn't even think is remotely interesting. I've only fucked ones I didn't like as a disgusting moment of weakness. I'm just realistic.

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>>14140582
>I dislike the implication that I'm some sort of pump and dump guy too.
>I've only fucked ones I didn't like as a disgusting moment of weakness.
>I'm just realistic.

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>>14140582
>I'm just realistic.
>the idea that I'd find one with similar interests is laughable and even if they did I wouldn't want her to.
>even if they did I wouldn't want her to.
>I'm just realistic.

>> No.14140639

>>14140597
>I dislike the implication that I'm some sort of pump and dump guy too.

In that I wouldn't begin a relationship with a girl just to end it after having sex with her.

>I've only fucked ones I didn't like as a disgusting moment of weakness.

I never claimed to be pure. I'm a degenerate.

>>14140624
>I'm just realistic.

What's wrong with knowing what you want? Girls that like anime, vidya, /jp/ related stuff are usually the kind you want to avoid. I'd rather somebody I wouldn't be constantly criticising, that could teach me new things and be able to challenge me.

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>>14140639
>I'd rather somebody I wouldn't be constantly criticising,

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>>14140771
>Having time for plebs.

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>>14140582

>I dislike the implication that I'm some sort of pump and dump guy too.
>I think of them as taller children.
so the idea that I'd find one with similar interests is laughable
I'd never date a girl I didn't even think is remotely interesting
>I'm just realistic.
>I'm just realistic.


hahahaha I won't even bother, Jesus... You are a clusterfuck.

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>>14140784

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>>14140797

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>>14140582

>I dislike the implication that I'm some sort of pump and dump guy too.
>I think of them as taller children.
>so the idea that I'd find one with similar interests is laughable
>I'd never date a girl I didn't even think is remotely interesting
>I'm just realistic.
>I'm just realistic.


why can't I hold all this contradiction

just stop, just stop dude

>> No.14140823

>>14140797
>>14140803
Okay let me put it like this. Girls that have interests like me usually can't cook, don't look after themselves and don't know how to dress themselves. Now as a result I would critical about their lack of exercise, culinary ability - baking doesn't count - and lack of fashion sense. Hence why I wouldn't want a girl into some of the nerdy things I am.

>>14140804
Earlier I'd said it was rare. As in there are interesting women that exist. I was being general. Doesn't mean I don't think most women are shit. Doesn't mean some women aren't. What's not to understand?

I shouldn't have said realistic anyway but I was running out of characters. Essentially I was saying as somebody had earlier in the thread that it's foolish to pin your hopes on high romance to to think the best of people, at worst it's delusional and self destructive.

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>>14140823
nobody is giving a shit about your posts anymore since you contradicted yourself several times in your statements, just stop trying to back it up, it's getting cloudy on your side, just quit posting and get out


autistfuck, do you realize how much of an autist it takes to get called autist in /jp/?

>> No.14140843

>>14140829
I'm merely defending my position. That and I was explaining what isn't actually a contradiction if you actually put things into context.

Call me an autist all you will. I'm probably more normie than at least 75% of you.

If you want me to stop talking stop responding, I'm only defending myself here.

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>>14140843
Defending yourself from people calling you degenerate? Defending yourself from your own lifestyle and trying to give a million of excuses just because for you, women is garbage and you can't help but pump and dump when they are different from your exact expectations?

Just get out, please. Your kind is not welcome here. virgin or not, it doesn't depend at the amount of sex you have but on your mindset, which is rotten to the core. You can't help but labelling people since your own personality is the one that is labelled, manufactured and bought, just like every human garbage, if we can call that a human, of course...

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>>14140823
>Now as a result I would critical about their lack of exercise, culinary ability - baking doesn't count - and lack of fashion sense.
>Hence why I wouldn't want a girl into some of the nerdy things I am.
>it's foolish to pin your hopes on high romance to to think the best of people

>>14140829
It's easier to simply pick apart his arguments by exposing the contradictions. It's like Phoenix Wright, when you've exposed one contradiction the defendant will whip up more to try and cover himself up. All you need to do is keep knocking them down by quoting them. You don't even really need to add any additional commentary.

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>>14140887
You know what, I thought the same, it's so stupid, this nigga's arguments sound like they were premade and not coming from an actual person, it takes a lot of emptyness to contradict yourself so much in the same statements, even.

>> No.14140954

>>14140866
I called myself degenerate did I not? I said I don't pump and dump and that's true there was no contradiction there as it was in response to his accusation that I find virgin girls defile them and move on which is not the case.

You make it out as if I go out looking for women. And I never said having lots of sex was a good or bad thing. I never even said I was proud of the sex I did have so I don't see where you're going with this sanctimonious angle.

'labelling people' what are you even talking about right now? 'Manufactured'? Yes I'm standard model Edge Lord 001 while you're the advanced tier model Holier Than Thou with the thinks he's going to bumb into the 'one' on the other side of his bedroom delusion.

>>14140887
I am actually a pretty decent cook, I run on a regular basis and I have an interest in fashion. So of cours I'm going to be critical. Or are you trying to this is another 'contradiction'? Because saying it's silly to still believe in Hollywood romance isn't the same as saying I'll just go out with anyone.

>> No.14140968

>>14140954
alright, just move on with your life, we gave up on you, nobody cares about your opinion anymore, just fuck off

>> No.14140989

>>14140968
What are you actually all so mad about? Have said something to offend you?

>> No.14142831

>>14132418
>They say.. that you can lose yourself. Everything. All boundaries. All time. That two bodies can become so mixed up, that you don't know who's who or what's what. And just when the sweet confusion is so intense you think you're gonna die... you kind of do. Leaving you alone in your separate body, but the one you love is still there. That's a miracle. You can go to heaven and come back alive. You can go back anytime you want with the one you love.

>> No.14142982

>>14140954
>So of cours I'm going to be critical
>>14140843
>I'm probably more normie than at least 75% of you.

>> No.14147350
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Giving up purity for pleasure in the moment is just shallow. If you keep your virginity, you maintain your "purity," but giving up for a reason that only amounts to "I wanted to feel good at the time," just sounds stupid. Why not just masturbate? I mean, that essentially what it amounts to. You could make the argument that sex feels better, but if you're a virgin, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.

When you imagine love, the real, pure love, the one type that doesn't really exist, you imagine it beyond everything else, right? Closer, more warm, more meaningful, etc. Sex is an act of bringing the body closer to the mind for a few moments, at least that's how I think of it, and that act means a lot more if you have that experience with real love behind it.

Not that I'm dissing non-virgins all together, Kana is moe. Just sluts. And the act of holding yourself back for a reward does make it feel better in the end. Like, drinking cold water after running a mile in the sun or some shit. If you take breaks every 10 seconds and drink several gallons along the way you're really just a pansy who couldn't put in effort.

>> No.14148099

>liking virginity
>being atheist
Pick one. If you like virginity, you are a jew.

>> No.14148117

non-virgins get out. Otaku culture isnt for you.

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>>14148117

>> No.14148617

>>14092883
>being in denial this much

>> No.14148694

>defending non-virgins
Kill yourselves out of /jp/.

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