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14019641 No.14019641 [Reply] [Original]

Better music.
More enjoyable patterns.
Feels like older Touhou games.
Do you play the superior Touhou?
If not, why?

>> No.14019675

Because the characters are ugly and I have no interest in them either way.

>> No.14019709

>>14019675
They aren't uglier than 2hus though and the games are more fun than the recent Touhou iterations. Why do you limit yourself to a worn-out franchise?

>> No.14019723
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>>14019709
>They aren't uglier than 2hus though
Why do you lie?

>> No.14019846
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>>14019723
How is it uglier than this?

They are equally bad.

>> No.14020041

>>14019641
Cool Koishi dude, where did you find it

>> No.14020133

>>14019641
I'm not a hipster who plays an inferior knockoff for the sake of being a special snowflake.
Go back to warosu.

>> No.14020138

>>14019641
Better music? Are you actually being serious?
Compared to the old Touhou games, Len'en has nothing even worth mentioning when it comes to music,

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>>14019846
>>14019723
I don't get why you hate them, they look alright. The games are at least more enjoyable then the last 2 main Touhou games.

>> No.14020519

Are the characters boys or girls?

>> No.14020526
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>>14020519
JynX said there's no actual canon genders. "Use your imagination" they said.

>> No.14020536

>>14020526
That seems like a pretty critical detail to leave out.

>> No.14020537

>>14020519
They are whatever you want them to be, anon.

>> No.14020558
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>>14019641
>better music
>more enjoyable patterns
>superior touhou
good one

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>>14020536
I agree to be honest. In the end, I ended up liking all characters so, eh. All the games mirror Touhou mainline games so you can also draw parallels between them. Just leave it to your imagination.

>> No.14020788

>>14019641
Because I like to at least complete every mode, and the Absurdly shit in Len'en gets on my nerves.

>> No.14020795

>>14020558
Eh, I think the music it's good enough. Ironic FATE best of EMS.

>> No.14020837
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14020837

The music from the first game is partly bad composed, don't judge the whole series by it (I only like the Final Boss and Extra Boss theme)...
But come on, from the second game up the music gets really catchy, there is some very inspired songs.

For me the Final Boss theme of Reactivate Magestical Imperial is better than Junko theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVH8QhFToR8
There's a retro feel to the game that I like, the musics sounds like something that could be from EoSD.

>> No.14020849

len'en is shit in all aspects

i don't know how people can stand it

>> No.14020856

>>14020837
The instruments used in that song are extremely off key with eachother. Its almost painful to listen to at some points. Its a decent composition though I guess.

>> No.14020991

>>14019846
there is a certain charm to zun drawings, the other girls look bland as hell

>> No.14021006

>>14020991
Or maybe is just your eyes that want to see this "charm"?
Marisa is just a generic witch, Reimu started like a generic Shrine Maiden (even though today almost don't look like one).

>> No.14021021

>>14021006
That anon was clearly mostly referring to art style.

>> No.14021111

>>14019709
>fun
10/10

>> No.14021159

>>14020519
>tumblr intensifies

>> No.14021162

>>14019641
The patterns are great if you enjoy the same stupid bullet shapes and motions copy-pasted across every fucking stage across every game. On top of that, there are only a small few spellcards that are actually interesting.

>>14021159
Don't worry, the "translation" for BPoHC uses "gender neutral" pronouns to make sure nobody gets their feelings hurt!

>> No.14021216

>>14021162
Disregarding the translation details, are there plans for translation of the other games?

>> No.14021242

>>14021216
JynX only made the assets available starting with BPoHC, so probably not.

>> No.14021397

>>14020837
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVH8QhFToR8
Honestly that doesn't sound any better than Junko's theme.
I think you are just lower your standard because Touhou is shit recently and you want to try something new.

>> No.14021414

>>14019641
Personally I like the Len'en games. Not quite as much as Touhou, but they're still pretty fun.

You must realize though, 90% of the Touhou "fans" here are secondaries that don't even play the actual games or, at best, struggle to 1cc Imperishable Night on Easy, so I doubt you're going to win them over by telling them to play similar-but-much-harder games with unfamiliar lolis.

>> No.14021441

>>14021242
He actually said he has plans to make the assets available for the older games, too. As for when I have no idea.

>> No.14021476

>>14021397
I didn't say I dislike Junk theme, I just find Shion theme to be a bit more powerful and melodic...

I don't know exactly but Junko theme just don't deliver very well, it's a little over the place and
don't has the same impact of, let's say, Lunatic Princess / Cosmic Mind / Little Princess / Border of Life, it just could be better.

>> No.14021488

>>14021414
they're not lolis they're sholies

>> No.14021658
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Only thing that got me to try Lenen

Came for the Shion, stayed for the Fumikado

>> No.14021666

>>14019846
Th15 is not canon

>> No.14021775

>>14021476
Junko's theme gets really good after the first minute though.

>> No.14022256

I tried listening to the music, the fuck is up with it? The instruments are all over the place.

>> No.14022292

>>14022256
Really? It sounds pretty coherent to me. The samples may not be as clean cut as those from recent Touhou games but in turn compositions are slightly more action-y.

>> No.14022435

>>14019641
>>14019846
If nothing else those games use boring ass brown or dark colors for every character.
They're bland, boring, and not memorable.

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>>14021441
This.
He said he was going to eventually patch the older games for translation purposes, exactly like BPoHC, but only after the game's done. Which should be done around February if I'm not mistaken. Probably one of the funnest shmups I played in a while.

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Why aren't you posting best girl, OP?

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>>14022764
Not OP, but fixed.

>> No.14022967

>>14019641
I disagree dude.

>> No.14022991

>>14021397
That sounds like a hundred mini riffs blended in together.

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>>14021414
This. Some people just hate fun and challenging games.

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>>14022796
Best girl's little sister looks cute too and her spellcards are fun to pacifist. I don't like how JynX portrayed her in the last len'en, tho.

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>>14023152
Really? She sorta is exactly the same, but slightly more confident in herself. I like her tbh. She still gets in trouble over nothing.

>> No.14023237

>>14020415
because I already beat the old touhou games. I want new stuff. I liked DDC and TD, and I'm liking LoLK.

>> No.14023279
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>>14023237
I just can't enjoy LoLK in terms of gameplay. It has too many design flaws that ruined the game for me. Character and Music is completely fine, but I cannot enjoy it as a game really. This is why I prefer Len'en after the first game, as it suffers the exact same problem.

>> No.14023292

doesn't feel authentic if the art is animu lollies

>> No.14024018
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14024018

Sukune Katano is the best girl of Len'en Project, who thinks otherwise is a FOOL

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>>14024018
The things I'd do to Sukune.

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>>14023172
I liked her inocent face in the first len'en, now she looks too confident and that smile doesn't fit her personality in EE in my opinion, the same with Jun's weird smile in len'en 4.
Still, I like her personality, especially the dialog with the emperor team.

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>>14024291
Yeah, I guess you're right. She went a bit more clumsy than anything else but I still like her. The emperor team's right side dialog on Len'en 4 is hilarious.
I wonder who will fill in the other two teams... I suspect Tenkai to join Kuroji, knowing her. I just have no idea about Yaorochi/Sukune.

>> No.14024390

>>14023279
One of the problem with LoLK is 'unfair' spell cards meant to encourage use of point device. Doremy is a good example. No way to dodge that red one the first time through. I forget the spellcard name.

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>>14019641

Because I play a doujin shmup series with more enjoyable patterns and better music than Le-nen and 2who.

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>>14024390
The pixel-perfect dodges and hitbox fuckery also screwed my fun in it. I had an image confirming it but I lost it... Still, none of the Len'en nor Touhou games are genuinely bad, but I honestly am enjoying playing Len'en games more than Touhou lately.

>> No.14024493

>>14019641

Len'en music doesn't have heavy metal guitars.

>> No.14024559
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>>14024461
and cuter lolis

>> No.14024590

So when is /jp/ making its own Touhou spin-off with a distinct theme and atmosphere?

>> No.14024731

>>14024590
I'd compose for it.
I'm experienced with fakehu style

>> No.14024797

>>14024590
That is actually a good idea, I don't know why /jp/ never did that with touhou being that touhou is pretty much 40% of the board.

>>14024731
I would like to hear, post some.

>> No.14024808

>>14024797
My latest original Touhou style composition.
It's a bit on the rough side, but it's probably the best example i've got right now.
Practising with LoLK instruments currently.
http://melodymonarchy.com/Website/Other%20stuff/Demon%20of%20the%20Soulreaped%20Skies.ogg

>> No.14024912

>>14024808
Much better than I expected, well done anon, keep improving in this direction.

>> No.14024922

>>14024912
Thank you very much.

>> No.14024978

>>14024808
Actually sounds pretty good. Could fit for an extra stage theme with the midboss making an appearance at 1:54 with some forced dialogue. When are we going to start on something?

>> No.14025023

>>14024978
Or you're already fighting the midboss by 1:54 and its an interruption in the fight with forced dialogue after which the boss unloads on you again. Maybe I just have too much of an imagination.

>> No.14025033

>>14024978
>>14025023
It was supossed to be an extra boss theme actually.
Many people say my songs sound like stage themes.

>> No.14025056

>>14025033
ZUN managed to make Hecatia theme sounding like a stage theme, you are not alone I guess.

>> No.14025119

len'en actually does have better music (more "different" than better though) and waaaay better patterns, and i like touhou a lot

regarding the genderless characters, they're not actually genderless, what's actually happening is:

1. jynx is going the transgender route and clearly wants their characters to be the same
2. jynx claimed that the characters are essentially forces of nature

problem is that all the characters are traditional girls instead of weird creatures, so it really boils down to point 1

it should be noted that there is reference to "a man" in zuifeng's profile and afaik said man is the rme stage 5 boss (who is based on a male historical figure ofc)

>> No.14025147

>>14024018
sukune is jynx's favorite character o/

i'm curious if any of these charas are inserts, it'd make a lot of sense here

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>>14025119
Or... He just wants people to use their imagination. You're reading a bit too much into it. Relax.

>>14025147
True and I'd suspect so to parts of characters such as Sukune's creativity and way of speech since JynX uses and abuses it on Twitter...

>> No.14025507

>>14019723
Looks better than all the new 2hus combined

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>>14025507
This.

>> No.14025750

>>14024808
This is pretty good.
>>14024978
Well it would require effort and /jp/ is not too good with that. But just make a thread and we probably get 20% of the work done in 2 weeks and then never continue.

>> No.14026280
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So why haven't you beaten RMI's Absurdly Extra /jp/? You wouldn't be a secondary, right?

>> No.14026317

>>14024808
Damn, that's nice.

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>>14026280
Sorry, I'm still a human being.

>> No.14026621

>>14023172
Yuck

These girls are
U G L Y
G
L
Y

>> No.14027677

Will Len'en get the snow ball effect Touhou got?

>> No.14027779

>>14027677
the only people that care about len'en are the StG fanatics who seeks more variety outside the standard games

the unmemorable characters look like they just pop out of a shithole slum(dull brown/dark colour themes)

gameplay and music isnt a lot outstanding either, lore just piggybacks off the touhou fantasy theme, how original

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>>14027677
It won't. It's probably for the best. Some people like it, others hate it and the disparity is so big that it will manage to contain itself over a small fanbase, which I'm sorta glad for.

>> No.14028342

>>14027677
When the minecraft clones will get the same recognition minecraft did.

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>> No.14029654

TWO MACHINE GUNS

>> No.14029666

>>14024461
Fuck yeah.

>> No.14030454

>>14019641
>Do you play the superior Touhou?
Yes. It's called Touhou.

>> No.14030628

>>14027677
99% of its fanbase are touhou fans as well. It's a great complement for touhou, but no substitute.

>> No.14031102

>>14020519
I think some of them are boys imo

>> No.14031119
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>>14031102
I agree. Some of them are clearly boys or girls, yet some are really hard to define... Guess that's part of the appeal of "No canon gender." Yaorochi pretty much looks boy-ish.

>> No.14031414

>>14020526
So, like the Gems or whatever they're called in Steven Universe? And Len'en is better than Touhou? Not interested in the SJW propaganda agenda.

>> No.14031422

>>14031414
>SJW

Jynx is a jap, he doesn't care about that shit. And I don't think any of the characters show romantic interest in eachother.

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>>14031422
This.

Besides. I wouldn't say better, although I've been enjoying it a lot more than the latest Touhou games, I'm not OP. Besides, you can't expect people to suddendly adquire the experience ZUN has in this anyways...

>> No.14041183

>>14019641
Hahaha no.

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>>14019641
But I do play it. EE's a bitch in Unreal with Tsubakura though.

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