Valkyrie Crusade

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Valkyrie Crusade
Wiki
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrie_Crusade_Wiki

FAQ:
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

/jp/ comrades/alliance/AW killer/sender

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvW2LsNqEuR8dEFpVGRGVm1CWE5JUE1KNmcwX3dNekE&usp=sharing#gid=0

Beginners guide:
http://pastebin.com/jTwtjkKq

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>>13968368
Wish she would drop. So beautiful. ;_;

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How do I reroll?

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>>13968856
If you have another device just transfer account to it.

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>>13968582
I got her on my first time fighting her, did only like 1k damage too.

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>>13968368
Is it worth pumping Thor full of Arcanas? I want her to replace or at least accompany Goetia on my AW hunting escapades.

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>>13969120
Well depends can you get current FAW ?
Self buffer will work for some time but honestly would be better to pump HSR buffer or some GUR.

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>>13969256
I have one copy of Himiko and two Cthuga's. My team at the moment is Himiko/Cthuga/Goethia/Ice Fairy

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You don't need to level the wings do you? You don't get an increase of troops so I think doing so is for the lols only.

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>>13969256
I don't understand why you'd give arcana to a team buffer. They're weak because they don't get any other skills. Better to give arcana to something that has an attack skill such as a critter, AOE, or self buffer.

Team buffers do their job whether they have increased attack or not.

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If this is one of you guys please add yourself to the spreadsheet.

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>5 Passion faries
>1 Light fairy
>0 Dark & Ice

Nubee..

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>>13972065
Yeah same here, got only 4 Darks and 1 of other ones so far. I'm gonna have to go nuts once Advanced is open.

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>>13972065
Got a Light and Passion on the first day. Haven't gotten any drops aside from likeability since.

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Is this card any good?

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>>13972770
Fair to middling. Keep her for your EH teams. She can keep your cards alive long enough to get your buffs out or your crits and AOEs to proc. Don't put her in a team with unleashers unless you have no other choice because she can take procs away from more important cards.

What's a better use of vit to collect keys? Witch Gates or the rare encounter post 4-1?

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Cool Fairy best SR Fairy

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>>13970917
as rule of thumb every amalga material needs to be leveled
>>13970931
You realy dont get how most efficient FAWK for free players works... Not to mention with both FAW and EH encounters having skill block criters and aoers are quite pointless now.

Pic related 99.99% win rate team with 95% 6,5m overhit rate...

>>13972065
>bazilion of cool faries
>bunch of passion
>some dark
>only one light from hearts.

Will have to grind EH for extra holy wings ...

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>>13973501
I use critters/aoe/turn skip in pretty much all of my EH teams and I can do advanced, I don't know what EH you are doing.
Honestly pretty much every card can be used in some way if you use it right. It's all about team composition.
Sure the team you listed is pretty safe, not exactly the fastest though. If you made an aoe team you would be able to do 6m+ overkill a lot faster, but it would have like 95% winrate instead.

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>>13974557
>Sure the team you listed is pretty safe, not exactly the fastest though
That team is not just safe but also optimal for hitting overkills, and who cares about speed anyway.
>If you made an aoe team you would be able to do 6m+ overkill a lot faster, but it would have like 95% winrate instead.
This is false, you would get cuntblocked most of the time of have or have your buffs canceled in AoE teams if you aim for maximum overkill. In the end it just boils down to having the right color for the right day, or just go Huang Long+unleashers.

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>>13974580
I don't think you understand how wrong you are.
Your team is not "optimal" for hitting the overkill, it's not 100% that you will hit a perfect 6,5m overkill, but you can be sure you will hit atleast 6m~.
Here is my current AoE team, I get 6m over kills in no time and I have 95%+ winrate.
Will post a couple more not p2w decks that can do the same.

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>>13974595
Forgot picture...

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>>13974595

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>>13974595
I use this team in advanced EH, I havn't lost with it yet, something about AoE cards getting blocked all the time right? Not if you have 4 of them. I use this team against teams with 3 or 4 servants, for easy kills.

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What do I put in pixiv to look for VC fanart?

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>>13974596
Look at all that money geez.
>>13974597
Yeah this team is shit, you WILL get cunblocked, your buffs WILL get canceled, and your unleashers WILL never work the way you want to. 95%, 6m+ overkills? Nah.
>>13974604
I doubt you can get much overkill out of this.

Huang Long team is the most optimal team there is because it's so much easier to adjust the damage on your team so you can always get the servants as low as possible for maximum overkill. Not to mention you can just use the same team for all 4 elements because of the DEF buffs making AoE spam almost a non-issue, so you don't have to waste your time and medals on too many cards.

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>>13974644
As for the last team, that is a 400% buffer, which means 1 buff brings the GUR aoe to 999k damage, easy overkills.
Never had the problems you are talking about with team 2, simply because of the turn skips, that team will never have a FAW actually attack you, and the dmg will get to 999k taps with just 1 buff again.
I use the first 2 teams in all my EH colors, they both have 95%+ winrate in advanced EH. The last team is only viable in cool EH, but gives easy overkills if you are willing to wait for the buffer to proc, else you can just nuke down with 3~ aoe procs.
Also, I think the 3x unleasher teams are terribly boring, I like variation in my teams. The only card I have 2 copies of is Dainsleif, and that is getting medalled as soon as I have a similar card to replace it.

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>>13974630
The title of the game? Is this a trick question?

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>>13975177
I don't know how to write the katagana, sorry.

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>>13973216
Agreed, she is so cute. But I like Elemental Queen's art the most.

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>>13973501
>You realy dont get how most efficient FAWK for free players works

Yeah, but I've been doing them forever. Self buffers are awesome, 1 proc of 400% > 1 proc of 200%

I also have a win rate of near perfect. Yay! Alternatively Speedster and Monkey don't rely on procs and I've won battles with Vemillion Victoria in 2 turns (average is 5) and it's much more exciting and fun. I only took her out of my team because I was getting max friendship on Super Iroha

200% buffers do their job whether you give them arcana or not. Even in your team with 3 redeyes and a Huang Long you will reach max attack power in 3 buffs whether she has full attack power or not. Why would you need arcana? Better to give that arcana to a more useful card for regular AW or EH.

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>>13974557
I have aoe team for EH and 3x buffer 2x AOEr (maxed GUR) guess what the amount of times i`ve got 2 cancels in one round..

Tap team IS faster, 3 procs is all you need for perfect overkill. While its 2 buffer proc (limited) and 1-2 aoe procs (and this if you dont get canceled).

I made top 20 this event easy without spending cash, tap team is superior to any AOE team. I have 350/250% buffers and still HL team is way superior to AOE team. Also it does 6,5m overkills 95%+ of times, needs like 2 cancels to lose overkill capability.

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>>13975312
Non upgraded GUR with 3x200% buff will hit around for ~700k damage not 999k.

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Holy crap I've been out of this game for almost a year, did they had higher level rare cards?

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>>13975580
Some HSR/HUR can be awakened.
SR 50 >> HSR 60 >> GSR 70
UR 70 >> HUR 80 >> GUR 90

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>>13974630
http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=%E7%A5%9E%E7%95%8C%E3%81%AE%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A1%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AD%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC

It is called "神界のヴァルキリー" in Japanese. But you won't find much fanart. Actually, there are more official art than fanart.

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>>13975519
>>13975519
Ohhhhh, I'm kinda wrong then. I upgraded my Huang Long long ago so I was remembering wrong. I must take it back then having an upgraded Huang Long is worth the arcana

Woah look what I got. Crazy

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>>13975660
Thank you anon.

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What's the point of doing EH if all I get is one coin the 90% of the time.

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>>13979813
Well I did 3 round ones at start of event, 3x dark wings and 2x of passion/light/cool but that was huge spam of shoes for map+witch gates to get keys.

Now waiting for advanced, since 4-5 coins is easy there close to 50 keys..

But its just bad luck do 30-50 EH runs and it will even out.

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>All these keys stacking up from limited enemy
>Can't even run a easy EH properly

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Where should I go from here? Still a long way from FAW?

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>>13980829
Get a copy of Elemental Queen, you will probably be using her for the rest of your time playing this game. It also depends on what other cards you have, that team you have might be able to kill FAWs, not 99% winrate, but you might be able to kill some.

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>>13980838
I'm trying to aim to have two HUR Elemental Queens by the end of this event, so I guess replacing both the debuffer and Cthugha with EQs would be best?

I don't have any other unleashers or URs, just a bunch of turn skippers (two HSR Sandcastle), debuffers (25% 3 proc) and critters (max 2 proc) but most are unevolved.

With my current team I can at best do 50% to a FAW, I'm trying to at least be able to kill WG FAWs spending only 2 BP.

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>>13980873
If you can get 2 ele queens, keep oracle and then put even R unleashers.

Try to make two teams that can farm 2 battle EH and get awekning materials from there.

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>>13980873
I recommend switching the debuffer with a turn-skipper, this is going to give you a way more reliable team.
The thing about debuffing is that it goes away when you get cleared by the F/AW, which basically complete stomps your team at the moment I assume. If you were using a turn-skipper instead you would decrease the chance of your team getting cleared and at the same time reduce incoming damage.

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Amalga wings+ lost fairy = 21156 SC
Amalga from fairy drops (light/cool/dark/passion) = 21070 SC

Not big diffrence tho for me it was easier to farm EH.. and had horrible luck with light fairy. Still not bad.

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Yeah I'm really getting the feel that WG Key drop rate and the Chimry coin drop rate has been nerfed JUST for this event.
Been running WG all event, have gotten 0 keys at least 60% of the time, which is totally different from other events.
I usually get 1-2 chimry coin drops in intermediate, but I have gotten 0 coins like 75% of the time...
wtf noobee

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>>13982318
It is nice knowing it wasn't just my bad luck. I was trying to farm keys for EH, but most of the time I got stones.

The good news is that I finished farming Lost Fairies. I got the 18 needed to get an H of everything (2 for HSR LF, 8 to HUR EQ and 8 to HSR each elemental fairy)
So I spend my resources just going to WG

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>>13982318
I don't know, I started with 40~ keys and now I'm at 23. I've gotten 4 copies of Red Wings, Green Wings and Purple Wings, so now I only need 4 Blue Wings to complete my collection. On average 1-3 coins drop for me on each encounter, with 0 coin drops maybe 20% of the time.

Key drops from WG are about average for me, maybe a bit higher since I've been focusing on progress points instead of spending them all on WG encounters. I've barely used any shoes/swords this event too. Maybe I'm just lucky.

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>>13982982
I have had about the same, seems that it is just a couple of anons getting unlucky. My EH experience have been pretty much the exact same as always.

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>>13972065
>7 Dark Fairies
>9 Lost Fairies
>other fairies refuse to show up
>keep getting random arcanas in EH instead of wings
>can't get jackpot at all
This is bullshit.

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>>13980962
Thanks, been giving this a try, for now it works as long as the turn skip procs before too much damage is done.

With the addition of HUR elemental queens, I guess replacing Cthugha is a no brainer, but should I replace my 200% SR buffer since EQ is only 100%?

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>>13985323

Becomes 200% on GUR.

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Welp, just tried buying 5k jewels, did not receive it.
Anyone here knows how to contact Nubee?

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>>13973501
>as rule of thumb every amalga material needs to be leveled
Not really, if the materials don't have their stats increased from leveling up t then here's no point to it.

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Does nubee do increased SR events from time to time? Should I save my tickets or just spend them when I see someone I like on the Lineup list?

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>>13985657
Isn't there a +5% inheritance bonus on max levelled cards though? So it doesn't make as much of a difference as with cards that also increase their stats, but it should still increase how much of that 4000 atk/def/SC you inherit.

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>>13985733
You are right, there's a 5% bonus for max level that I never noticed. Guess I didn't get the most soldiers count for my Sanzo. Oh well, it's not like I'll ever use her anyway.
>>13985721
About 2-3 months between each event I think. Just save your tickets until the next one.

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>>13985639

There is a Nubee button on the same menu page as Settings and Comrades. Check the money was actually sent first.

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>>13981545
What if I use mixture of dropped fairies and wing amalgated fairies?

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>>13985958
Thanks, i just sent them a ticket. Also checked my paypal, and yep, the money has been sent for sure.

I guess this is some fucking karma for me becoming a filthy cash player ;_;

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>>13985970
I`m about to do
3x droped faries one from wings + lost x2 since I droped everything nice except light one and farmed 6 wings today (making 2 more perfect too).

Oh well just need last frigin slime to level up fairy should post results in sec

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>>13985970
Made from
Drop Cool/Dark/Passion and Light made from wings+lost. For both URs.

So 20SC more than pure drop one, seems it will scale with ammount of amalga/drop faires.. not bad at all. Damn and on my way to make 2 more perfect amalgas just need 3 dark and 4 passion wings. Got more than enough lost ones..

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>>13986160
I had some difficulty with iTunes in the past and found the best thing was to purchase itunes credit first before buying jewels with them.

I don't know what system you're on but that's how it worked for me.

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>>13986160

Nah, don't feel bad about putting in the cash. These games are designed to have a 'startup infrastructure' cost. For VC, that's 3 Ygg Trees, Magic School and some card inventory space. It's when you burn those jewels for gacha that you become filthy.

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Advanced is so good. Two keys and I got four wings.
But now I feel stupid farming for Lost Fairies before doing EH...

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4 keys in Advanced and I haven't seen a single Lost Fairy despite already gotten a bunch of SR and even Jackpot. Are they supposed to be easy to get in here?

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OK here we go.

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>>13989522
Good luck onee-chan. Enjoy top 100!

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>Only half a heart after 40 encounters
This is going to be a shitty week.

This probably is the worst event i have played up until now.

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>>13990875
I feel the opposite way about it. There is actually stuff to do in this event. Usually it's farming AW/FAW for the first week or so, then maybe a bit of progress points of whatever they felt like. Sometimes a "special area" opens later that you need to clear and then the rush to finish advanced EH with all your keys on the last day. This event felt like it had a lot more stuff to do in, Usually I don't really play much for almost a week each event, not the case this event. In general I havn't gotten bored because it was just mindless FAW farming while I already had everything I wanted.

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So I keep getting invited to the same alliance every day. I keep declining. Anyway to block these invites? It's getting kinda annoying. The alliance that keeps inviting me is Nexus Capricorn.

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>>13991845
Just don't decline and let the invite sit in the requests box. If you leave the request hanging they can't keep making new requests.

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>>13993038
But then I have the invite pop-up thingy at the side all the time. I don't like that.

[Anonymous No.]

1 Lilim
2 Sanzo
3 Snow White
4 William
5 Sulis
6 High Vampire
7 Fortuna
8 Jack O' Lantern
9 Yuki Onna
10 Omoikane

I'm really excited since I got two sulis drops from witch gate last event.

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>>13993931
Not big surprises. The event URs without awakening, got it now.
Lilim was obvious.
Snow White is a classic favorite and an infinity critter (surprised Scylla isn't on the list)
High Vampire is a really easy to get SR, so it makes sense. the 50% boost is nice for a beginner team.
I am surprised that the only 30% AoE attacker is Yuki Onna, since she is an Evolution Accident. I failed four times before getting my YO. There are other like Arianrhod, Snowman MK II and Sekhmet that are easier to get.
Fortuna is also a popular card, but probably people expected more EXP.

The two that I really didn't expect are Sulis (not bad skills, but I didn't know she was popular) and Omoikane (you can only get her in Ultimate Summon, luckily, I got her HSR).

I am surprised at the lack of SR AOE ATK up other than Omoikane.
Also the lack of Strategist (and the 30% AOE) is surprising. It makes me believe that most people don't bother with Alliance Battles at all.

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>>13994135
Unfortunate that we didn't get Sekhmet or other 30% AoE.

Hopefully I can get a 2nd Snow White soon. I was honestly hoping for at least one All Atk Buffer.

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>>13994135
For giggles (and needed 4th dark EH team) made team like this
GUR maxed speedster
2x HSR high vampire
1x SR high vampire
1x HSR lynx

Would hit 700k+ damage on Speedster self buff, 999k if lynx buffs.

Now ? I can get 3rd HSR High and GSR them all, drop lynx for skill blocker and hit 999k easy.

Look at that extra attack.

Quite happy for Sanzo (got 2) William (got 3) Sulis (got 2).

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>>13993931
>Jack O' Lantern
>Snow White
>Sulis
>Fortuna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdvITn5cAVc

Lilim has never dropped for me in almost 2 years. I still hate her.

[Anonymous No.]

Need more FAW killers please.

9dhof

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>>13995207

When do you usually send? I'm already on your comrade list but I've been slack on responding in general.

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>>13995319
Around these times for six hours on Tuesdays,Wednesdays,Fridays and Saturdays. I'm on the whole day on Mondays,Sundays and Thursdays.

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>>13993931
I have every one of those cards except Lilim. I voted for Sanzo, William and Jack, since I never used them despite being decent cards, just because they weren't GURS. Now I can try to fit them into an EH team more effectively. I too am surprised about Yuki Onna, would have expected Arianrhod or Snowman, and would thought Scathach or Lynx would be preferable to Omoikane. But oh well, doesn't matter much to me.

>>13994852
I feel you, man. Been playing for about 1.5 years and haven't seen a single Lilim.

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7 days left, how're your presents coming along?

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>>13996361
I`m lacking Ns and Rs.. making wing amalga x3 is suffering.

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3x perfect wing amalga
1x drop amalga
1x 3x drop/1wing amalga

and I`m done with this event 30 keys left but not gonna farm 4th perfect amalga

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>>13997048
That's amazing. Not the fact that you could get 10 copies of EQ, that's easy. Being able to awaken them all though... You must have some fucking good luck dude.>>13997048
That's amazing. Not the fact that you could get 10 copies of EQ, that's easy, especially with EH advanced drops. Being able to awaken them all though... You must have some fucking good luck dude.

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>>13998448
It's not that hard, with 5%+ and 10%+ arcana, you have a 35% chance of succeeding, which means about 30 Cool L stones (I use them as measurement because they are the rarest based on consumption/drop ratio). To awaken 5 you only need about 150 Cool L stones which are actually easy to get if you spam EH hard (as you should be doing this event).

[Anonymous No.]

My god I'm using up 10 events worth of luck this is my 3rd from drops and I'm not even ranking. If I keep top 3000 I'll have two full Elemental Queens from drops alone.

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>>13999030
128+Assists EQs and haven't gotten a single drop. Finished two standard evo EQs before they opened area5. On the brighter side I've gotten a dozen or so SRs from killing several hundred lost fairies.

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>>13998948
It took my 8 goes and all my awakening arcana to awaken my 3rd Redeye yesterday. Maybe its just my bad luck but 35% for me is like one in six on average

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>>13998448
Awekning is easy now with arcanas..

Hell you can just spam at 25% since I have over 40 5% arcanas and doing EH neats tons of stones.

I have inbox flooded with S passion/light since I hit 999 cap on them event ago.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuuuucking wings. I have a metric fuckton of Lost Fairies but no goddamn wings.

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I will be trying to get my first awakened card soon. I know you can get the stones in EH, but how do you get those orb things? And will it take me a shitload of time to get the necessary materials aswell? Are there any other things i should keep in mind?

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>>14000711
Orbs are the same as stones, they drop in EH and in WGs. If you do EH for stones you get arcana, make sure you use it, because it will probably fail, even if you do. Depending on how many keys and how well you can do EH it shouldn't take too long to get materials for 1 awakening, but getting enough for it to succeed can take a while.
Also don't get your hopes up before attempting, expect it to fail and you will be much more happy about it when it actually happens. I have been fairly lucky with awakening, the most attempts I have is around 10, some people in the thread have reported more than 20 attempts.

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>>14001489
Its pure random tho
3 of my 6 Fairy Queens on 1st try
then 40+ fail on 1st VV and second was like 3 tries
Had 30L stones and 2 Huang Longs.. and rocked 2 GURs with 1 fail.

Its just pure random bullshit generator.

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>>14001587
That was my entire point, expect the worst and you will be happy when it succeeds.

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After being away for a year, I came back a little confused but got used to the EH and everything after about a day or so.

My team right now is HUR Oracle Ascendant (attack maxed), HSR Nicola (currently maxing attack), HSR Sekhmet, SR Uriel, and HSR Cacao.

Always had bad luck getting FAWs (and still don't have EQ yet) but then I used a free premium summon ticket and got Amaymon here (replacing my Uriel ASAP), now I don't really care if I get EQ anymore :P

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>>14002945
Damn, grats onee-chan

[Anonymous No.]

24 slimes just for one perfect amalgation EQ. WHAT THE FUCK!!!!

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>>14001489
Just tried like 8 runs, and what the fuck.
Tons of shitty N cards everywhere and if i did get a coin i got trash anyways.

Yep, this is going to take a while for sure.

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>>14003223
2 metal slimes.

Well what the did you think they were for onee-sama?

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>>14003562
The rewards on easy are a lot worse than those from intermediate and advanced. I tend to get a decent amount of slimes a couple of metal slimes, a good amount of SRs or in this event the wings and finally a ton of awakening stones. I am somewhere around 150+ large stones of each color, with no cards that needs to be awakened.

[Anonymous No.]

Confirmed that an unleveled wing, despite having no difference in HP, will lose soldier count compared to a leveled one.

Leveled HP 4646, unleveled HP 4446.

[Anonymous No.]

Best area to farm for brittle keys?

[Anonymous No.]

7x SR/UR results out of 12 tickets:
1 Phantom Umbrella
1 Longinus
1 Soul Eater

Before doing this I even prayed to the RNG goddess to give me either a Calamity or Miss Lunar New Year so I can max evolve them, and they gave me a Longinus instead. Very funny, nubee.

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>>14004983
Witch gate. Only sensible choice to farm keys.
>>14004989
10 tix
1x Empress (SIGH)
1x Nott

gonna use one later lacking like 600 coins to get PS.
>>14004231
Told ya, allways max out amalga material.
>>14003223
For wings I use auto attack buffer + fortuna + librarian + 2 wings. Like 6 or 8 AW fights and wings are maxed. Tho EQs are killing my slime supply. Also use metal slime to max out UR and max level SR to max GUR.
>>14002945
Pweeeety

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>>14005447
Thanks for the tips. I have HUR Monkey and two fortunas so it may save me some slimes. Trying to stock up some keys for two dark wings now, but I'm not sure how much time I have left until dark time in EH.

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>>14004080
Well crap, i should've expected.
Unfortunately i do not have enough good cards to make a 3rd unit. I could just put my least trashy cards there though but i would have to burn away 2 extra BP for that last round battle.

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>>14006405
Well, some shit happened today. So sum it up quickly;
>Used all keys on EH
>Managed to get jackpot twice in a row
>Made EQ HUR
>Had enough materials for 1 awaken
>Fuck it up
>Get Phoenix from event summon

Now i have a shit ton of stones but no orbs.
Fuck those things man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14005447
I had the extra wing so it wasn't a loss but I still find it bananas since there's no change in HP between a level 1 and level 40 wing. Where do the extra 200 troops come from, may I ask?

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>>14006827
There's another bonus for having max level iirc? It automatically carries over an extra 3% or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14006827
5% Max Level Bonus for Evo/Amal

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>>14007035
>>14007688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g9e-37xHY

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>>14007975
Tell that to the fucker who didn't know where the extra troops came from.

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>>14004983
What I do.

Go to area 4-1. If I find an archwitch ignore it. If I run into a key holding rare encounter kill it, if it drops a key, whatever it's not my primary goal. Find a witch gate and go into it. Kill all but the last archwitch, ignore her and walk about 10 steps looking for key holding rare enemies (they have better droprates than the ones outside). Kill the last archwitch. Repeat.

I get a blue shoe about once every 8 keys so I only do that 3 times a day. When I first wake up. In the afternoon using a blue shoe. At 10:00 pm.

I get about 5-10 keys a day. Closer to 5, but up to 10 if I'm lucky.

You'll get more or less based on your total vit.

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>>14003771

You guys make it sound like Slime Queens are difficult to get. I am covered in them from EH runs.

>>14005580

Personally, I run 1 Fortuna, 1 Speedster and 1 Iron Fan so I have a backup in case of a turn 5 AW Field.

>>14006405

4 actually - costs 3 BP to rez the whole Int. team and THEN you can send 1 in.

[Anonymous No.]

Just awakened 16 HSRs (with no arcana used): it took me 51 tries in total which equates to an average of 31.9 success rate. Surprisingly the number of successes on 1st try is 6 which is the highest, followed by 4th-try successes at 5. However there are also times that it took me 8 and 7 tries just to awaken a single card. In conclusion the RNG in this game is total bullshit and 40% is a fucking lie.

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>>14010745
I agree that RNG is a bunch of bs, but you only used 16 cards for this experiment, if you really want to study this company's rng you'll need to test out at least 100 cards before the info becomes useful. Secondly it's 40% for each try, not overall, they're very different.

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>>14010943
He did 51 trials, not 16 cards.

51 trials should be pretty close to average.

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>>14008895
Well you get tons of metal slimes in EH too.
I keep slime queens for GUR maxing.

Yeah backup for self buffer is nice then again my monkey is maxed out so even if gets debufed kills AW anyway.
>>14010745
Any data below 1000 tries is suspectible to statistical error, 51 are nothing and geting 31,9% is in margin of error. Tho... yeah it feels its just random BS generator not RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

Queen Momo and Her Secret Recipe

Change name to Moodie Foodie ... Seriously Nubee there's a reason your game is tanking in the west right there

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>>14010979
The chance of getting at most 16 hits on 51 tials is still around almost 14%, which is still a relatively realistic chance to happen. It's enough to raise suspicion, but far from a significant number.

What I find more interesting is the spread of the results, i.e. the relatively large number of 4th try successes, but I'd need the exact discrepancy to see whether this is significantly abnormal. Also how many times it took 8 tries would be interesting. The chance of needing at least 8 attempts at awakening is around 3%, which has an around 40% chance of happening with 16 cards, so still pretty reasonable, but if it happened more than once it quickly becomes way less likely.

>>14010745
Could you release the exact data you gathered, i.e. how many cards awakened after how many attempts?

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>>14010943
>>14010979
>>14012127
One more quick note about probability: There really isn't a fixed rule for when an experiment becomes significant, it depends a lot on the individual experiment and how far the result deviates from the expected norm.

As an exaggerated example, if it says the chance for awakening was 1%, and you try to test that with 10 cards, and all 10 awaken instantly without failing once, you've already pretty much disproven that it's anywhere near 1%. By disproven I mean disproven for all practical purposes, it's one of those "technically the chance exists, it's just never gonna happen to anyone ever" things. If every single human on earth tried this a billion times, it would still be unlikely to happen to anyone ever, that's how significant that result is, even though you only made 10 trials.

That's why evaluating the exact numbers is pretty important.

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>>14012127
Well I just did it on an impulse because I was pretty mad when I tried to awaken a Corvus and it took me 7 freaking tries to do it, and I just deleted the Excel files after that. But IIRC:
1st try: 6 times
2nd try: 1 time
3rd try: 1 time
4th try: 5 times
5th try: 1 time
6th try: 0 times
7th try: 1 time
8th try: 1 time

I'd try more if I could but those were all the awakenable HSRs I have left. Maybe I'll do more once the update with the cards voted for awakening hit.

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>>14010979
>>14012150
On this note, usually whenever you are running test on probability etc. you would do atleast 10.000 iterations. Which means 51 is a joke. Getting 32%~ is reasonable for such a small sample size.
>>14012200
Though if you look at these numbers, it would seem that they averaged the percentile and there is actually a much higher chance of getting 1st try and 4th try success. I still find this highly unlikely since the sample size is so small, but it could very well be.

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>>14012200
Forgot to add.
I would actually like for this to happen, fill in a sheet whenever you evolve a card, just for science. Would be fun to see what the /jp/ average success-rate is.

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>>14012799
My point was the opposite, that you don't need 10000 iterations IF the result is already significant. Some results can be significant after 10 tries, others need 10000 to get a meaningful result, it really depends on what you're testing. There are more than enough tests where it's simply not feasible to do 10000 iterations, so saying you would usually do 10000 iterations is just not true. Sure, you can always get an even more accurate result by increasing the number of trials, but some are already significant enough after 100, others really do need 10000 or 100000. You can't generalise like that.

But yes, in this case it's not significant enough, the result is with a chance of about 14% unlucky, but still very realistic and normal.

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>>14012895
Honestly with your example, you could just have gotten crazy lucky and hit the one in a million chance. So even then I wouldn't say the sample size is big enough. I don't think only doing a small amount of tests does any statistics justice. You always need a decent amount of samples for accurate testing.

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>>14012895
Also, forgot to mention. I come from a programming standpoint. We usually say 10.000 iterations as a rule of thumb, whenever you have to test something or make statistics on something.

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>>14012932
Alright, with programming it's a different thing, since the computer is just doing everything in a few seconds anyway, so it's more important to just make sure that people never use numbers that are too low.

>>14012924
No. It's not 1 in a million, it's 1 in 100 billion billion. As I said, even if everyone in the world did it a billion times, it's probably not gonna happen to anyone even once.
It can "technically" happen, but on the same grounds you can dismiss literally any test. All you can do in probability tests is reduce the chance of being wrong to a probability so low, that you can just assume it's not going to happen. You will never have 100% accurate readings, but that's ok, because being 99.999999999999999999% sure (yes, actual number of 9's for my example) is enough to be reasonably certain about the verdict.

I think you are grossly underestimating how unfathomably big 10^20 is. It's not winning the lottery, it's like YOU buying exactly 3 lottery tickets in your life, and winning the Jackpot on every single one of them. I stress the "you" because it's not even the chance of this happening to someone in the world (which won't ever happen either), it's the chance of this happening to you.

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>>14013031
Caught me on the first part. Lost me on the last part when you were throwing around numbers about the lottery where you don't actually know if they are correct or not.
Also I didn't actually do the math on your exact example, but I know the general idea of statistics and yes in this case you are right.

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>>14013058
The lottery thing was just meant to put how unlikely it is into words without the numbers, and the Lottery is usually the biggest unlikely thing people are still familiar with. Not sure what you mean by "throwing around numbers", the only number I used was 3, but I agree that it was probably not phrased well.

[Anonymous No.]

Just what the fuck happened to this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>Tfw FAW using buff two times in a row

Throwing 70k's like it's nothing and wrecking my team.

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>>14014748
Some kid getting mad at rng. Next he's going to complain about proc rates.

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>>14012895
>100 iterations
could you read about statistical error
You can get abnoramal string of like 20 failures/success that will completly screw up your small sample base. The n higher than 1000 is standard due to statistical error.

[Anonymous No.]

You programming folks need to step into real life and its n = 5 results.

It's especially fun with animals that already behave differently depending on who's handling them and whether they ate onions yesterday.

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>>14017596
The whole point of an hypothesis test is to figure out how unlikely the result is exactly so you can rule out that it's just an unlucky string of failures. Every result that has the same microsopically small chance of occurring is equally valid for rejecting the hypothesis, regardless of whether it's n=100 or n=10000. A smaller n just makes it less likely to replace it with a good new hypothesis. I think that's what you're confusing it with, but this whole thing was just about figuring out if there's something weird about the rng for now.

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>>14017856
Yeah lets start doing tests with n=10 then. According to your "logic".

You are stupid, the larger sample base the less supsiectiable you are to statistical error.

And you cant "figure" if something is wrong with RNG with less than 1000. Since you are in relam of statistical error and your "wierd" is just BS.

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>>14017951
You are pretty aggressive for someone who apparently only understands that it works, but not why it works.

If you're trying to reject that something has a chance of, say, 1%, then getting 10 hits out of 10 tries is a stronger result than getting 50 hits out of 100 tries, because the chance of getting 10 hits out of 10 with a 1% chance would be 10^-20, the chance of getting at least 50 out of 100 would be about 10^-15. They are both strong enough, but the 10 out of 10 is stronger by 5 orders of magnitude because it's way less likely to occur by pure chance (i.e. the statistical error). The possibility of error in the 50 out of 100 case is a lot higher than the 10 out of 10 case.

The reason why doing n=100 is better than doing n=10, if you have the ressources to easily do so, is because it is more likely to give you a strong result, but if you already have a result, which was the case here, the only thing that matters about it is how strong that result is. And not everyone has 100 SRs and enough material to awaken lying around to just casually try out with, so you might as well see if whatever result you have already is conclusive. Chances are it's not, but the worst that can happen is that the verdict is "can't tell for now".

>And you cant "figure" if something is wrong with RNG with less than 1000.
You do not need someone to get 1000 royal straigh flush in a row on his poker hand to figure out that he's obviously cheating.

Figuring out that something is wrong is the easiest thing in all of statistics. Getting accurate numbers is the hard part.

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>>14011545
Also because most monsters are ugly.
I considered keeping it only because of a sheep-looking girl I got from summoning but ended up uninstalling it.

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>>14018189
You cant prove "rng is cheating" without those accurate numbers.

Thing is you get on my pe-vees since I worked for 3 years in company doing all sort of statistic and you are just spewing idiocy.

And you completely dont understand statistical error , and your numbers are completly off since chance here is 20%... but whatever keep spewing this idiocy.

I will give you one fucking example
failed 40 VV at 20% in ROW. And that was prime example of statistical error. I could run around and scream WAHH WAHH RNG IS BROKEN CHEATING WAHHH. But truth is in next 60 tries I`ve awaken dozen of other HURs.

So kindly stick your low N in your ass. All you do is spew idiocy at this point.

I have close to 40 GURs at this point and even with such low number of tries the RNG seems consistent while it does have bad streaks the 3 tries 2 GURS also happen. So it works as it should.

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>>14018959
Is English not your first language? Because it seems that you simply just don't understand what he was saying in his post. Or you are just choosing to ignore what is being said because you actually know what he said is true. Sometimes it can be hard to tell.

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>>14018959
>I worked for 3 years in company doing all sort of statistic and you are just spewing idiocy.
Yes, we could sit here discussing our respective qualifications, but it doesn't lead us anywhere when we both think that the other person apparently didn't deserve theirs. Especially if all you can say about the theoretical aspect is "trust me, I'm an expert".

>and your numbers are completly off since chance here is 20%
And you don't understand examples. It was an example with extreme numbers to show the concept, you are unlikely to run across these exact numbers anywhere, but if you did, it would work, and the principle stays the same for every case in between. Also, the actual number is 40% since we were talking about SRs.

>I will give you one fucking example
Failing 40 at 20% is 16 orders of magnitude more likely than my example, so it happens to around 1 out of 1000 players. Now, if this game had around 100000000000000000000 players, you might have a point about my example.

>I have close to 40 GURs at this point and even with such low number of tries the RNG seems consistent while it does have bad streaks the 3 tries 2 GURS also happen. So it works as it should.
I agree. There's probably nothing wrong with it, pretty sure people are just being paranoid as usual.

Either way, this doesn't really lead anywhere, since we're just moving in circles. Pretty much all I could do after this post is repeat my reasoning or throw around insults, so unless you want to address something specific about it, there's pretty much nothing left to say. Most people are probably sick of these posts by now, but then again, nothing else was happening here anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Next event will have Loli Chemist

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>>14019230
Thing is saying that n=100 is sufficient to determine anything is just stupid.

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>>14021698
n=100 is sufficient to determine a lot of things. It's very simple to do the math and determine the likelihood that you receive an outlier of a certain degree. All you need is mean and standard deviation. The end.

>Thing is you get on my pe-vees since I worked for 3 years in company doing all sort of statistic
Your qualifications don't mean shit if you can't do the math to back it up.

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>>14021778
So you disprove every book about statistics, any other research and say "do the math". The math has been done already and proves you wrong.

And the other guy here was right, n=1000 is bare minimum and you should run test close to 10000 to get good results.

At n=100 in this case you would have over 10% error margin, and guess what with that 31,9% succes rate when excepted should be 40% is ... in range of error.

>Just awakened 16 HSRs (with no arcana used): it took me 51 tries in total which equates to an average of 31.9 success rate. Surprisingly the number of successes on 1st try is 6 which is the highest, followed by 4th-try successes at 5. However there are also times that it took me 8 and 7 tries just to awaken a single card. In conclusion the RNG in this game is total bullshit and 40% is a fucking lie.

this is original BS posted

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>>14021816
>So you disprove every book about statistics, any other research and say "do the math". The math has been done already and proves you wrong. And the other guy here was right, n=1000 is bare minimum and you should run test close to 10000 to get good results.
Not a single statistics book backs you up. Cite a single one, retard.

>this is original BS posted
That guy might be retarded but saying you need n=1000 to be the "bare minimum" of anything is hideously stupid.

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>>14021836
For sufficiently large n, the distribution of \hat{p} will be closely approximated by a normal distribution.Using this approximation, it can be shown that around 95% of this distribution's probability lies within 2 standard deviations of the mean. Using the Wald method for the binomial distribution, an interval of the form

(\hat p -2\sqrt{0.25/n}, \hat p +2\sqrt{0.25/n})

will form a 95% confidence interval for the true proportion. If this interval needs to be no more than W units wide, the equation

4\sqrt{0.25/n} = W

can be solved for n, yielding n = 4/W2 = 1/B2 where B is the error bound on the estimate, i.e., the estimate is usually given as within ± B. So, for B = 10% one requires n = 100, for B = 5% one needs n = 400, for B = 3% the requirement approximates to n = 1000, while for B = 1% a sample size of n = 10000 is required.


Unless you are happy with 10% error bound (hell I even remembered it correctly for n=100) please continue.
1000 is bare minimum to give you 3% error bound.

And that`s from first material I had at hand. Now kindly show me YOUR sources.

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>>14021881
>Unless you are happy with 10% error bound
n=100 is wildly sufficient for disproof. If you guess 50% and the numbers say 29% there's a 95% chance your guess is wrong. Our n=100 here was more than sufficient to reject most proportions.

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>>14021890
Well n=51 in this case was still in 10% error bound. And look that way if you do n=100 for HSR awekning your results will be from 30% to 50%, so anything over that COULD say RNG is cheating.

But it dosent prove anything, since there is still chance that getting 22% success rate or so could be caused by error bound...

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>>14021911
If the percentage is 40%, and you get 22% success rate after 100 tries, this is nearly four standard deviations from the mean. It would happen nearly one in ten thousand times, as in, if you tried to awaken a million of them you might get this unlucky exactly once.

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>>14021925
Thing is even in this small sample size example the result was in margin error so there is no definitive proof that RNG is broken (as that guy claimed) or is working properly.

Result is close to maximal error bound, but again for me it proves nothing.

But I`m just tired of people claiming "RNG is broken" "they screwed up proc rate since X update" and so on. While they base it on small sample/personal example.

Obviously you get more tinfoil idiots agreeing with them and this is how BS is created...

I have yet to see something even hinting RNG is this game is "broken" from my small sample base (57 GURS like 20 GSR) I see its working quite good. Instead of being quite close to median it has good/bad streaks like good RNG should have.

Dosent show a hint of hidden "luck" factor, well in some games its not even hidden when failing loads up your "luck" bar and after X fails you get auto success (like in EZ-PZ). So I have yet to see something hinting that RNG here is broken/cheating like tinfoil crowd claims.

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>>14021967
>But I`m just tired of people claiming "RNG is broken"
Could you please separate the 2 topics? They have very little to do with one another when the people you are arguing with agree that there's no reason to assume the RNG in this game is broken. The arguement started with you disagreeing about a theoretical aspect of what is necessary to statistically "proof" something, none of the 2 sides is advocating that the RNG in this game specifically is broken.

The conversation about whether this game is broken went like this: "I had some bad luck" - "Could you post the numbers?" - "Yes, here" - "Nope, looks fine". And ended with that. That's the last time anyone has argued that this game is broken.

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>>14021632
If I understand correctly, the Loli state can be cured, right?

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>>14022106
Hopefully something like that in the EH and we'll need it to amal her for an UR form like with the Rikayu event.

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>>14022106
God this sounds as bad as catcine event.
Why cure loli...

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>>14022150
Well, you're free not to cure her. Just like you were free not to give the Lost Fairies their wings....

...you heartless monster.

I can't understand curing catgirls though, I think every single catgirl from the event wanted to be/liked being a catgirl, at least from what I've seen on the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWf63PIrZaE

[Anonymous No.]

>>14022173
But don't alchemists strive to live forever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14022173
Oh comon its quite diffrent
not giving lost fairy wings

vs

curing catcine virus or ... making loli into old hag

cant compare that

[Anonymous No.]

>>13968368
I only need one Light Fairy drop ;_;
She doesn't want to appear.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else got double Jackpot?
Didn't know it was possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14023264
It isn't that rare. There is a high chance JACKPOT appears in the same panel the second time.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally got my first GUR.
Those elemental hall runs were hell.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good amount of point to guarantee me top 3000? I was borderline below it by yesterday and it would suck to be stuck with a single UR Elemental Queen apart from my HURs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14023414
Congrats! I awakened my first one earlier this week. Maxing the Atk/Def was tedious but it feels good being able to kill FAWKs

>>14025735
What's your current Rank/Pts? I was ~2800 at the beginning of yesterday w/20mil. Grinded a couple million and am currently sitting at 2612 w/~22.2mil.

I'd say hitting 21mil would suffice, but aiming for 22mil would guarantee top 3k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14025789
Was 19.5 at 3182.
Currently sitting on 21.5m. Should be good enough, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14025874
Just throw spare bp at EQ so you aren't sitting at max bp while waiting for the next event starts and you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14025923
21.99 m
I think I'll go sleep now, hopefully this won't end up like Cthuga...

[Anonymous No.]

Well goddamn it now I feel like an asshole

[Anonymous No.]

>>14026112
>can't evolve Lost Fairies because they not only will be useless but they won't be able to fly again
>evolving elemental fairies makes them useless
This event was such a bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

10 minutes till loli!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14026969
I hope pooh does the art and hopefully we'll get the new awakened cards.

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>>14026987
Nope, Akkey again.
She's cute, but useless and reminds me of Alchemist Ex, oh well.
Metatron in WG! Lapraz is cute and usefu and her HUR doesn't look like shitl! It's a shame her hair turns blonde though. Hyper Alchemist is a Jean/Red ye clone!
Seems like an alright event.

[Anonymous No.]

Cute

[Anonymous No.]

Where's my damn awakened Lilim?, nubee?

[Anonymous No.]

So from what I understood in this event, you can get exactly one GUR Hyper Alchemist. One UR from amalgation after maxing hearts in area 5 and 1 from ranking within top 3000. Seems a little weird to me, usually you can farm the shit out of any card you want or at the very least get 3 copies, like VV.

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>>14027151
Sounds like Sanzo except it still can drop, I think. And it's not locked behind a fucking Limited Enemy holy fuck I'm still mad about that.
Maybe they realized single unleashers are pretty fucking OP and they shouldn't be giving them away like candy.

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>>14027175
It doesn't say anything about dropping anywhere. The FAW and AW can drop sure, but not Hyper Alch afaik.

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>>14027187
Oh right, she's not the FAW.
Then yeah, we're limited again like with Sanzo.

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>>14027151
It says nothing about ranking.
First for progress points
Second for finishing 5-4
Third for maxing FAW hearts.

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>>14027151
>>14027391
Two GUR Hyper Alchemist. GUR will be perfect amal and the other mixed.

Three copies R Magic Spell Incarnate used to amalgamate with SR Lolita Alchemist:
-Event Map Area [5-4] reward
-FAW [Lapraz] Likeability
-Progress Point Reward 18,000

Non-amal UR Hyper Alchemist from ranking top 3k.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm incredibly new and incredibly lost.
If these are my cards, what kinda set up should I go with?

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>>14027485
Read the faq. You better list what you have because people aren't don't remember all the names of shitty cards. From what I see you could probably kill low level archwitches with atk buff/turn skip set up:
>SR Queen Momo (Attacker)
>SR Paulina (Turn Skipper)
>Any Atk+ Buffers or Skill Unleashers

tl;dr you don't make a set up, you add FAWKs and send your F/AWs so you can farm for better cards.

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>>14027574
Yeah I read the FAQ but I'm apparently retarded since I'm still very much lost

Thanks for the advice though

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>>14027485
The first thing you might want to do is get some F/AW killers in your comrade list, for this just go to the docs OP posted and try adding a few.
>>13968368
Also try to get your fifth attack slot unlocked by upping the arena to level two, as well as leveling your barracks as much as you can to help add more powerful cards in your attack unit. For now, though, the first four SR cards you have there add up nicely to 157 and should be good enough for an attack unit.

If you feel like going through the event area go right ahead, but when it gets too tough I'd recommend getting as far as you can through both celestial realms, if I remember right there should be a lot of useful rewards to get in those areas to help you out in the future.

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>>14027625
Thanks man, this all sounds very helpful. I appreciate it

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>>14027485
Use /jp/ spreadsheet (at topic) and this https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1quTtyuAio7wyeqcLvBu3we5ucT67m7CqMHpXK_NzpCQ/viewform

To get FAW and AW killers. First thing you should do is get your team to AW killing but at start just get killers and good alliance to kill stuff.

Aliance is important, you can send AW/FAW max to 5 people + WHOLE alliance so if you have 10-15 active players around your timezone in alliance it increases chances of FAW getting killed.

>>14027453
RR alchemist will have same stats as amal one, we had such event some time ago where there was limited amount of amal material and top 3000 RR was same stats as amal.

Where is my GUR sanzo ;_; nubie you slackers...

Sigh 7 copies of AW to drop since I want to keep loli alchemist. No rank this event, since RR is crap anyway.

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>>14027732
That sounds smart but doesn't an alliance expect things out of me? I haven't been playing for a week yet so I'm kind of doubting I can pull my weight in any alliance
Thats also part of why I haven't sent too many requests, aren't I just wasting their battle points?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14027740
Yeah they except you to send AW/FAWs :P

To be honest there is no need to donate to goddes, and leveling up aliance is for people with maxed buildings so they can burn resources.

Also this game is newbie friendly
Top players want FAW/AW kills for ranking rewards so they help newbies and kill thier stuff. Works quite great, new players dont feel ussles and older players WANT to help them since they benefit from it.

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>>14027750
Oh I see, thanks for clearing all that up for me. I thought they were just getting N cards or something like that.
Probably a stupid question, but do I just ask to be in some random alliance and hope they accept?
Sorry for asking so many stupid questions, a lot of this stuff feels a bit overwhelming

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>>14027760
Yes they will get N card 99% times but well you get drops sometimes.
Also this event everyone will kill AWs too since you need 5 AW drops + hearts to make 3x amalga.

And 7 drops+ hearts if you want to keep loli and YOU DO WANT TO KEEP LOLI.

This event try to get 2 HSR AWs and 2 scrolls, the one from 5-4 and PP will be easiest, might try for hearts on FAW. This way you will get powerfull card, skill unleashers are great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14027769
To think you can keep 2 URs untill you get more unleash cards, and then stick some self buffer/high vampire in slots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14027769
I understood like every other word of that
I feel pretty damn retarded reading this

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>>14027774
Don't bother with what he said. In the beginning you just want to farm the AW as much as you can, don't bother doing anything else until you can kill FAWs alone.
So in this event you progress as much as you can in the event area, and then when it gets too tough or you finish the area you farm area 1-1 for AWs.
If you want easy access to an alliance I'm sure one of the 2 /jp/ alliances have room all you need to do is put your ID on the spreadsheet and post it here asking for an invite.

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>>14027878
Oh good, these are words I can actually understand
Yeah, this is basically what I went for in the last event, though I couldn't really get anywhere. Thanks for the advice though, its nice to know I'm at least on the right track.

I joined some random alliance that only had one person in it to complete the beginners quest, and I just left it so apparently I need to wait over a week to join anything else, but I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thank you

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>>14027896
24h after leaving alliance to join new or they changed that ?

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>>14027921
I just now realized I read the date wrong because it's backwards to me and I'm retarded. I just saw the 9 and was like "Well shit"

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>>14027896
Also forgot to mention, just posting your ID here asking for FAW killers will usually give you a couple of reliable killers. Not all the players on the spreadsheet are still active.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14027950
Well it's a3de8, if anyone see's this

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>>14027963
Sorry for double posting but I'd just like to say thank you to those who sent me friend requests, and to the person who sent me an invite to an alliance (which I can't accept until tomorrow night)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14028214
Don't worry about it, the whole thread is just me samefagging anyway...

[Anonymous No.]

Awesome, a Miss Lunar New Year. Not sure what to do with her, but I could set up a wombo combo EH team I guess.

Also, Sophie, Metatron and Orchestra in the Witchgates AGAIN? And Candles relics AGAIN?
If it wasn't for the really good URs we can get I'd have skipped this event. Damn URs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14027963
Added you but judging by time stamps our time zones are pretty far off.

Once you get into one of the /jp/ alliances, make sure to remove comrades that are in the same alliance as you. This will free up space so you add more people as comrades.

Try adding some peeps from the wiki as well
>http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Comrade_Requests

>>14029337
Congrats on mlny! I'm still waiting for the day I will buyfag to get a UR summon.

Sophie is a qt ;; hopefully I can get a 2nd one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14029337
Gratz well getting second will be hard
I`m stuck with UR Juliet, Baton Twirler and Cake Lover.. but 100+ PS burned form ranking and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14027963

Comrade request sent. I'm slack at responding to AW/FAW requests but if you catch me while I'm paying attention I'll kill anything you send.

The earlygame is entirely about "can you send as many AW/FAW as you can?" - therefore the first priority for jewels is to buy the Magic School and the Yggdrasil Trees to improve spawn rates and max BP. Do not waste any on premium summons.

The first milestone will be to reliably kill AWs on your own. Try to focus on getting R unleashers for starters: Seagull, Furinkazan and Romance.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a new player and a bit lost as well. I just spent medals to fully upgrade medal girls skill because I thought that 30% exp would be nice, then I almost immediately got three cards that give 40%/60%

I can also send AWs/FAWs if anyone cares a0b90

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>>14029406
Oh god don't bother upgrading skills on R cards unless they're the R unleashers >>14029381 mentioned.

Added you. I'm pretty unresponsive for the first few days of every event as I'm maxing likeability on shit, but after that feel free to send me your FAWKs. Just finished the loli and I'm grinding to area5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14029360
I haven't spend a dime on summons. I just use all the free jewels/tickets we get. And yeah, getting the second one will be impossible. I also have a Barista and Prometheus, but both only at UR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14029406

Uh yeah... wait around for another event that uses the slot machine mechanic and you'll have a chance at Fortuna: 80% (then push to 100% with upgrades). Even 100% is uselessly slow unless you're using it with AW kill experience.

Remember, the only thing that matters in the earlygame is "can you kill your own AWs?" A good way to ensure that is to gather R unleashers for starters.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally I managed to have all GUR Team with the same element.
Elemental Queen
Jean x2
Chocolatier x2

Too bad I skip Summer Oracle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14029439
I still claim these two are worth it. I'm using Crusher in my dark EH team 3

http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Cinderella
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Crusher

[Anonymous No.]

>>14030862
The 20% is nice but substituting with SR Queen Momo is nearly the same without having to wait for two Cinderella/Sculptor drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14030914
>>14030914
True but unlike normal people I upgraded mine. And she makes a good alt team addition if you only have 1 self buffer. The low soldier count of an HR is a real problem but if you're desperate to fill that 3rd team she can be a good one

[Anonymous No.]

Oh my god Lapraz a cute!

[Anonymous No.]

10 hours left everyone! Start pulling all your old cards out! Tomorrow morning it'll be too late!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14031804
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14031815
He means inbox deletion of oldest presents.

I`m at 50 days oldest now and thats due I`m full on S passion/light stones and cant delete them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13968368
How does Critical Damage work? How is it calculated? How is it better/worse than other forms of damage etc?

[Anonymous No.]

37 kills and already got a drop!

[Anonymous No.]

>>14032453
IIRC crit damage is about 10x of a tap.
Pros:
-10x crit dmg > 1x tap dmg
- Skill-induced damage, thus doesn't take a turn and you can still tap for damage after a proc
Cons:
-Limited procs, unless you get some of the older unlimited critters like Snow White or Scylla
-Skill induced damage, thus can be blocked by archwitch skill

If you don't have one of the big three skill types (blocker, unleasher and AoE buffer) a critter isn't too bad choice. In this case you might also want to consider a self-buffer (Pros: tap damage doesnt get blocked. Cons: Buffs can be witch-wave'd off)

[Anonymous No.]

>>14032453
To shorten the long answer that actually didn't really answer your question down.
A crit is 1000% dmg, just like you see cards that do 250% damage to an enemy or 350% damage to all enemies, a crit works the same way, but it is 1000% damage to a single enemy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14031815
Any cards you had in your presents box when they first started counting down will have been deleted by now unless you removed them.

Today is 90 days from when they implemented it.

[Anonymous No.]

Finished 5-4, maxed faw hearts.. quite easy.

Also now I can make unleasher team without double cards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14034736
Wait, 5-4 is already open? Why aren't I spamming shoes? I should read the news better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14032493
Got my first non-likeability drop at ~110. I don't know if I can handle grinding four more of these lolis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14034793
>grinding lolis

[Anonymous No.]

So...new type of Archwitch, new skills and "obtaining certian cards that were previously unavailable as rewards" huh
New type of Archwitch is probably a GUR version, her activating would allow people to deal more damage than usual. "Certain cards" sounds like the arcana that raise the chance of Awakening will be dropable, but then they'd say Arcana instead of a card, no? Will it be possible to get the not event URs as rewards? That'd be nice. Too nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>10 PM
>Maintenance still ongoing for a while
>Missing daily dose of free shoes

Being Europe is suffering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14038631
Just change timezone, or was that fixed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14034793
Around 130 kills here
2 drops + 1 likeability

Yeah the grinding sucks, only three more.

Also, no amalga/likeability drop from FAW? Is it just pure luck on drop this event? I have someone on my comrade list who managed to get her in like 3 hours after the event started, nothing here yet, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14038731
Got fixed a long time ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>14039099
Guess it shows how long I've been away for, currently trying to catch up with current meta.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm pretty new, does anyone have advice for getting a lot of progress points? Is it as simple as repeating 1-1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040405
1-1 is probably the worst place to grind progress points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040490
Then I'd really appreciate being told where is best
The beginners guide in the OP says 1-2, but it seems specific to the event that was going on at that time

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040506
If you are new don't bother grinding progress points. Grind FAWs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040852
I have the Lolita Alchemist though and I think I can manage to get the Magic Spell Incarnate if I try had enough
Isn't that worth doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040881
Maxing FAW hearts for MSI is a lot easier and has the potential for better rewards aka self-buff UR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040901
I don't know what FAW hearts or MSI are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040909
FAW >> Fantasy Archwitch
Hearts >> Likeability
MSI >> Magic Spell Incarnate

When you max likeability you generally get the f/aw drop but during this event you get magic spell incarnate instead. By grinding the FAW you have a chance of dropping a different UR than alchemist. Both are very good cards especially for newer players. By limiting yourself to grinding e.g. 1-1 you only have the potential to get one UR card. Additionally going through the event campaign will net you jewels. Need anymore spoonfeeding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040949
Sorry man, I read through the FAQ and beginners guide twice each. Neither really talks about any of this and I honestly don't know how else I'd find out about this stuff than asking here.
Thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14039099
I still do it almost everyday, I don't know what game you are playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040989
The FAQ and guide are horribly outdated, it was even outdated when I started and I'm lv. 140 now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041044
sounds like bs where is your proof ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041086
As you wish...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041167
Whenever I try to hit the help thing on your stuff I always assume they're in the other kingdom and it takes me forever to find them and it's incredibly frustrating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041167
>bluestacks


now try it with a phone it doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041384
Have you tried killing the app process first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041197
I might move things around to make it more convenient, but I havn't really been too bothered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041384
I don't see why it would be any different on your phone. Bluestacks is an emulator, which essentially means it acts as a phone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041384
You might need to wait one day for change to take effect. Works fine on mine tablet and phone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041593
Oh yea, it works only if it has been more than 24 hours since last time you used the shoe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041593
>>14041617
How exactly would it help then? The shoe is gone and no amount of time shennanigans could fix that now. You could set the time to get a shoe instantly now, but then, once you set it back to normal, you lose another shoe to make up for the one you gained..

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>>14041704
You obviously don't understand how it works. Just stick to your fixed time schedule, but don't tell others that this doesn't work, because it does. A lot of people do this every day, simply because they don't have the free time schedule to be on at a specific time every day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041765
What do you mean? I never told anyone it doesn't work, I think you're confusing me with other people who partook in the discussion. I was the guy who made the original post, people were then replying saying I should just change timezones, and now I replied that it doesn't help me with my problem if this is the way the mechanic works.

I'm not telling other people that they shouldn't change their time zones, if you are more comfortable with another time zone, go ahead, but I for one neither want my phone's time to be set to a completely different zone, nor do I want to permanently set my shoe time to noon or in the middle of the night or something, 10 PM is a great time for that.

I was not arguing that changing timezones wouldn work at all, I was saying that changing time zones is not a solution to the problem that it was originally proposed as a solution to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041839
If you had changed the timezone such that the shoes appeared either before or after the JST midnight maintenance then you wouldn't have lost a potential vitality refill.

Personally I set my phone to JST since I sleep early (around 10pm). It's only an hour faster so it doesn't annoy me and 9pm refill is perfect for some end of VC before going to bed.

[Anonymous No.]

Lapraz drops: 4 from self, 1 from assist
Loli drops: 1 from self, 1 from likeability
????????

[Anonymous No.]

>>14041839
You can change your time zone, click on the shoe and then change it back immediately, no need to keep it that way. Obviously it is less of a hassle if you are using Bluestacks since you can keep the previously used timezone and with that see if the shoe is available again.
But in this case, you could have just changed your timezone when the servers came back up and gotten the vit and then changed it back when you were done.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone's been ranking regularly ever since EH? It's just so easy honestly: hit WG a few times a day to collect about 40 keys, spend them all on Advanced and top 300 is easily secured. It's gonna be even more efficient now that I can breeze through on every element thanks to those Elemental Queens from last event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14042068
Been ranking regulary before EH, now its even easier with EH tho RR are bit lack luster now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>14040989
No apology needed. Used the wrong word, I meant do you have any other questions.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you rank 1000 with 2m/day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14042217
In the past, with 1.4 m/day is enough to land you in top 500.
Now EH exist so the balance is screwed.

[Anonymous No.]

Likeability this event is fucking bullshit
Im still at 1 heart

[Anonymous No.]

Nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>14042587
Got 5 drop of her so far, seems to drop like candy.

Shame its 350% buff on max GUR skill.

>>14042568
Did mine in 60 kills.

[Anonymous No.]

2 Laprazes
5 lolis
Still not even a single Metatron ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>14043525

It could be worse:

0 Laprazes
1 Loli
0 Metatron
0 Sophie
2 Orchestra

[Anonymous No.]

1 3/4 hearts now
Right now this bitch is just burning away all my BP

[Anonymous No.]

>>14042587
Congrats onee-chan!

[Anonymous No.]

Did i just got fucking aoed by a freaking Sr card and completely destroyed my gur team what the fuck ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14045577
Ya spade does that, preety nasty.

[Anonymous No.]

New player here.
Should I just Medal Girl all my Metal Slimes or is there a better use for them?

Also, should I even attempt to get a second Magic Spell Incarnate at the end of the campaign if I have no UR cards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14046964
I use metal slimes for exp on my URs because grinding a dozen slimes is a pain in the ass. Veteran players generally level up their cards through FAW battles.

In the end it's personal preference, are you lacking in slime/exp or medals? When you start maxing stats on cards you'll find that medaling is the more useful option.

Try to go for a 2nd MSI on the off chance you grind four lolis because the RR Hyper Alchemist has 1000 less soldiers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14046964
You may need medals at this point more than EXP for your URs. I would suggest medaling most of them

[Anonymous No.]

i started the game at the Alchemist event, took a long break (my alliance even disbanded due to inactivity) and now it's an Alchemist event again.

Give me some tips, should i keep using this team ? (Max Attack: 19999+21998 Bonus on Snow White and Chaos)
Bonus : (Dark Evil II 10% + Pandemonium 15% + SR Force 15% + 2*Pagan Hall 2*20% + High Vampire 25% + Max Affinity 5%)
Not sure if i should switch Snow White or High Vampire for GSR Joker

[Anonymous No.]

i started the game at the Alchemist event, took a long break (my alliance even disbanded due to inactivity) and now it's an Alchemist event again.

Give me some tips, should i keep using this team ? (Max Attack: 19999+21998 Bonus on Snow White and Chaos)
Bonus : (Dark Evil II 10% + Pandemonium 15% + SR Force 15% + 2*Pagan Hall 2*20% + High Vampire 25% + Max Affinity 5%)
Not sure if i should switch Snow White or High Vampire for GSR Joker

[Anonymous No.]

170 lapraz kills, not counting the assists and only 1 has dropped. I got some magical spell drop on the heart event, is that supposed to happen? Why is getting the second one so hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14047145
FAW doesnt drop this event. Magical shit is to amalgamate for Alchemist.

>Why is getting the second one so hard?
Are you new? I'm assuming you've never had 500+ kills and zero drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14047167
If she doesn't drop how come I already got her once?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14047175
>I got some magical spell drop on the heart event, is that supposed to happen?
FAW doesnt drop this event. Magical shit is to amalgamate for Alchemist.

You would have known this if you read the fucking news you lazy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>14047039
Step 1: Get in alliance
Step 2: Get hyper alchemist or two
Step 3: Get lapraz
Step 4: Congrats. You got up with the times and can kill FAWs by yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14047039
You lack buffers well do as
>>14047236
Said,

Get 1 Laparz 2 unleashers and stick two vampires if you have untill you get one skill blocker.
>>14047167
No drop from hearts, but Lapars drop like crazy got like 7 so far.

Also finally all maxed on def and HL on both att/def. Can run cookie cuter setup without double cards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14047309
Didn't get any Lap drops in the first 100, but now I'm getting one every ~40. My luck with the loli though is horrendous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14047236
>>14047309

I already got enough Loli Alchemist, i'll try to get the second magic spell incarnate to amal the hyper alchemist then.

I have some buffers but i stopped using them when AW got the dispell skill.
I still didn't get any Lapraz yet, i'll try to GSR the Orihime if i can't get Lapraz

[Anonymous No.]

>>14047481
Just kill her/send to people she drops so easy.
Well yeah witches do get cancel but
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Chocolatier
http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Summer_Oracle

block it also with multi procs from unleashers buffers are center cards of most teams now.

The cookie cuter team is
200 or higher buffer or even better 200% def/att buffer like EQ or Huang long
3 unleashers +1 skill cancel
or
2 unleashers + 2 skil cancel

You can subistitue buffer with self buffer too. 3 procs and you hit for 999k.

Oh and do keep vampire, she gets GSR soon with +50% passive.

[Anonymous No.]

If a skill is activated by a unleasher before it procs on its own, can the skill still be activated later again on its own?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14048305
Depends on the proc limit. The skill unleasher ability uses a proc for a card.

e.g. A card that can proc twice can still self-proc once after being proc'd by a skill unleasher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14048305
Unleasher forces proces that count towards proc limit of card.
So if it has proc limit 1 and gets first proced by unleasher cant proc on its own.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>14050380
250%
Ye gods that's one of the greatest improvements in the game. She actually becomes worthwhile now especially with unleashers

[Anonymous No.]

>>14050383
Same with Urliel, hell high % on battle start makes sense with unleashers. If they procs on turn 2-3 you dont wait for buffer to procs and just ham away.

And 25k att is also handy.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you get loli from elemental hall?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14050647
Nevermind, I'm good.

[Anonymous No.]

What would be a good area to grind for Alch and progress points at the same time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14051588
4-4

[Anonymous No.]

16 card Arnage, yipee. Don't generally do 16 card R cards. I usually stick with 16 card N cards because they're easier.

[Anonymous No.]

So UAB is announced.

http://valkyriecrusade.wikia.com/wiki/Little_Grey

250% HUR/GUR passion buffer.

If you have decent alliance and gems/cash for 50-70 rods you can get it easy. At least that`s my experience with UABs. Quite worth that 40-60$ for rods.

Spam at fever time + good combo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14060724

Buy rods from the bundle - get a 40% discount per rod.

[Anonymous No.]

Before the thread falls off the board. Anyone else having actual real trouble with Lapraz? I've lost about 4 battles since yesterday. It's frustrating as hell. She keeps clearing the field and while this is normally not a problem with Jean and Redeye I lose because she death counts my Huang Long and then I'm left with nothing. Yay I have procs ready on Jean and Redeye ... to bad nobody's left to receive them thank you very much.

Goddamn it, I have to put my Vermillion Victoria back in and stop trying for 6.5 million overkills. I hate this goddamned death skill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14064262
Get one more buffer then?
I'm using two unleashers, two buffers (HL and EQ) and a blocker and I have no problems

[Anonymous No.]

>>14064276
I've been using Monkey.

Also what the fuck does google want? Seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>14064276
Alternatively you could use an extra nullifier if you have one.
Honestly I don't have any problems with the FAW, but my team is extremely fast, so it's rare that I even reach the 4 turn mark where my cards would start being killed off even if they get targeted. I guess this is one of the better "counters" to the unleasher teams. Even though it still seems highly ineffective since there are plenty of options to avoid this from happening.
>>14064262
My opinion is, try to speed up your team or use another defensive unit. Speeding up would require critter or AoE card. Defense I recommend any turn skipper with high proc rate or another nullifier as I mentioned earlier, both of those should work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14064262
Took me roughly 170 to get 2 Lapraz, which felt like forever since this is the first event I've ever been able to kill them myself in 1-4 bp. I was actually ranking under 3k for the first time just trying to collect her which surprised me.

>>14064308
everything my friend, they want everything >:3

[Anonymous No.]

Just started the game recently and found a witch. How do I request reinforcement? Or am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>14064802
You can't in the Witch Gate. It's too early for you to be doing Witch Gates anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>14064802
You can't reinforce in an Elemental Hall. During this event F/AWs only appear in the event area, and you have to fail once in order to reinforce, it'll be the first button on the left at the end of the match.