General Nutaku Thread #38

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General Nutaku Thread #38 Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:36:48 2015 No.13837427 [Reply] [Original]

Last thread: >>13809930

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

Lord of Valkyrie links:
>Game link:
http://www.nutaku.net/games/lord-of-valkyrie/play/
>English wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Valkyrie_Wiki
>Japanese wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/
>/jp/ player list:
http://pastebin.com/URgv8JPA
>Grind table by an anon:
http://imgur.com/y90G0cS
>Required strength for explorations and their rewards:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Exploration
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4

Millennium War Aigis links:
>Game link
http://www.nutaku.net/games/millennium-war-aigis/play/
>Japanese ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>English ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>Japanese Wiki #1:
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/
>Japanese Wiki #2:
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/
>English Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png
>Vid anon's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkAJz5hSVU_zaF0EqLiCKkg

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 27 23:40:21 2015 No.13837437 File: 155 KB, 1200x628, 11741155_414680152048893_1522070744006617146_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also forgot, Angelic Saga slated to be released tomorrow sometime. Seems to be an ero Yu-gi-oh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:25:23 2015 No.13837941 Which black summon is worst and why is it Olivie?Ugh seriously why her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:29:31 2015 No.13837957 >>13837941 Olivie is even better than Karma, she's ultimate anti-boss tank.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 02:30:10 2015 No.13837960 >>13837941 She's actually one of the better blacks. The thing with most black units is that they're good at one thing and they're really good at that one thing.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:15:16 2015 No.13838096

>>13837960
I'm not sure how you figure most blacks are only good at one thing.

Nanaly is good at everything other than taking out the most heavily armored units (most armored stuff is fine) and blocking.

Deine, in addition to being a great tank, also takes out armored units quite well.

Basically all the duelists are good at both tanking and damaging either armored or non armored stuff. Sure they'll be best at one of the three things but they'll still beat most other things in the game at the other two.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:26:27 2015 No.13838113

>>13837941
what?

She's a princess with the highest raw attack, defense, and magic resist that can reach 100% dodge for 15 seconds.

she's easily one of the most useful blacks in the game, hundred times better than any other melee black in the game without awakening.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:29:39 2015 No.13838118 >>13837957 Unless that boss uses magic attacks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 03:39:09 2015 No.13838139 >>13838113 I don't think she's any better than Deine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:25:22 2015 No.13838217 So Angelic Saga is up apparently, anyone else playing it?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:42:37 2015 No.13838235
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I plan on doing the crystal keeper H this week, is this team enough? Soma has 280~ attack and Stray 260. Monica however has 467 attack power thinking of putting stray in the upper side and monica on the down side.
Both healers have arround 300 atack power. Do I need to level up someone?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:47:02 2015 No.13838245 >>13838217 What deck did you pick?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:48:58 2015 No.13838248 >>13837427 fucking summerfags

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:53:37 2015 No.13838265 >>13838245 Balanced, I chose the girl I found most good looking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 04:58:55 2015 No.13838281 >>13838217 I'm trying but most buttons aren't doing anything for some reason. Dunno what the problem is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:01:10 2015 No.13838285 File: 1.54 MB, 1203x897, angelic saga 003.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13838245 >>13838265 Same, looks though chose technical.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:05:39 2015 No.13838288 >>13838217 Ugh, tried it a little, but it was so grasping for Nutaku points that I gave up. Aigis-sama is the only one for me, I think.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:13:41 2015 No.13838294

>>13838235
If you can get Monica to 1 shot them with the prince summoned you should be all good. If you can't you're in trouble as the archers will require at least 3 shots to kill I think. For context one of my ranged units doesn't 1 shot at 473 and another does at 580. This is their base stats but the statement with regards to 1 shotting is with the prince up.

Small tip for the last wave if you are taking too much damage drop your Leeanne in a forward position then withdraw it. Placing the prince slightly behind your damage dealers is also useful as he helps draw a small amount of fire and you likely want him anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:32:18 2015 No.13838318 >>13838285 Mah, my brother. The game doesn't let me chose "GloriousDick", lol.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:32:44 2015 No.13838320

>>13838217
>Play Tutorial Battle
>Forces you to mana all your strong 6 drops while keeping the uneven numbers like 3 and 5 even though you always get 2 mana per turn
>Turn 3 comes up
>Mana your 4 drop to get 6 mana, ignore your 5 drop, and play the 3 drop instead
>End turn

This curve is terrible, what are they teaching new players?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:39:06 2015 No.13838330

>>13838320
Oh god, the tutorial gets even worse now, who designed this? Sacrifice your small 250 atk card to weaken the enemy's 300 atk card so that you can then finish it off with your 800 atk overkill card. Was it really that difficult to just have the enemy play a 850 atk card so that this move actually makes sense?

It literally hurts to input the commands for these plays.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 05:55:08 2015 No.13838348 >>13838330 >>13838320 More or less had the same reaction here. Tutorial choices in card games aren't always optimal but this stuff is flat out horrible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:03:37 2015 No.13838353 File: 130 KB, 452x518, angsag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Best girl

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:11:05 2015 No.13838368 Did Angelic Saga have a daily reset yet like Aigis, or is it later in the day like Pero? Didn't think it'd be up this early, but then again, so did Aigis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:12:37 2015 No.13838370 >another kusoge added while Aigis likely won't have a new event for weeks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:17:01 2015 No.13838385 File: 186 KB, 800x583, swords.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh boy, is she gonna attack me like Phyllis did?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:19:00 2015 No.13838388 >>13838385 Nah, she's actually a trap.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:20:35 2015 No.13838393
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>>13837119
>Drop rates probably increase the tougher the mission
I can see that. I pretty much destroyed my supply of Sacred Crystals trying to get extra Bernards, but I ended up getting 2 Daniellas in a row without even trying .
So, I failed in my original goal, but I guess I can CC Spica now.
(I also decided to give the Premium Summon a whirl for the 1st time in ages, hoping to get one of the event-related units, but got some Gold archer guy instead).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:23:11 2015 No.13838398 >Rowanna's first scene is literally prince walking in her room and raping her As expected of a dark elf

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:50:18 2015 No.13838457 >>13837437 woah it's voiced!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:52:09 2015 No.13838465 >>13838457 Most DMM games are. Aigis is weird and not really like other DMM games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:58:21 2015 No.13838483 File: 1.57 MB, 1198x900, angelic saga 011.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Seems that each girl says different things which is cool. With stamina recharging like charisma means don't have to watch it like a hawk for wasting if you want.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 06:59:36 2015 No.13838486 >>13838465 Aren't DMM a hands off publisher to the point that being on the site doesn't indicate much? I always thought they were much like DLsite or steam in that regard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:01:50 2015 No.13838493 >>13838483 too bad there's apparently only 8 H cg for the whole game

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:05:48 2015 No.13838498
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>>13838493
yeah, not to mention that you only get the sex scene rather than like pero pero where you get everything. I know its a sex game and stuff, but I always like to see the build up and rest of the story etc in my games. Nice to look back on.

Also seems that changing character changes the attack in quest mode, like with her she shoots the cards, much quieter lol.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:07:14 2015 No.13838500

>>13838465
I wanted to like Aigis but it's just too slow and unrewarding for me.
The only rewarding part is H-CG. That I grinded for until I got tired. I tried doing events but it's literally impossible unless you've invested enough time(or money) into the game.
I mean maybe I've been doing something wrong but droprate of event points/items is horrible for a game where event stages take plenty of your stamina, 15-20 minutes to complete each and give 1-2 points out of 100-200 needed for a basic reward.

All I wanted to say is that Aigis has some great features and strategic depth most of other DMM mobages lack, but lacks things like voiceacting and optimization(in many ways).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:09:04 2015 No.13838501 >>13838500 > DMM mobages I meant browser games of course. My bad.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:13:51 2015 No.13838510

>>13838500
ᶜʰᵉᵉᵃᵗ ᵉᶰᵍᶦᶦᶰᵉ

Aside from that
>I mean maybe I've been doing something wrong but droprate of event points/items is horrible for a game where event stages take plenty of your stamina, 15-20 minutes to complete each and give 1-2 points out of 100-200 needed for a basic reward.
First off, yes item farm events are hard mode.
Second, that's lowbie maps, you get average of 13 per run on highest Karma maps for example.

Star trial events by comparison require just one completion to get the event reward, any more farm is solely for the extra drops of silvers and junk.

But really the MAD GRIND is mandatory for these games. You can't escape.
ᴱˣᶜᵉᵖᵗ ᵇʸ ᶫᶦᵇᵉʳᵃᵗᶦᶰᵍ ʸᵒᵘʳˢᵉᶫᶠ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵗʰᵉ ᶜʰᵉᵃᵗ ᵉᶰᵍᶦᶰᵉ⋅

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:16:03 2015 No.13838515 >>13838500 That's pretty much the opposite of my experience, only item farming events really need crystals to do well in and you don't need to put money in to do them if you just abstain from excessive gacha.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:16:21 2015 No.13838516 >>13838510 Enjoy getting banned after you invested few months into your account.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:17:59 2015 No.13838518 >>13838516 See what's funny, is that it's months for you because you spent days upon days grinding all that shit up, but not for me.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:20:01 2015 No.13838523

>>13838500
I don't really get it. Personally speaking I just skip all the scenes in Aigis and don't really get why people would play it for H CGs considering they are all on ex anyway.

>>13838518
>>13838510
What's the point in cheating for a temporary account in a single player game?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:21:39 2015 No.13838525

>>13838518
I have one cheating account on DMM, its still months to get good stuff, just you get shitton of stuff per each run and you have 0% chance to fail. And its much boring to do than my main non-cheating one, so I've missed plenty of events already.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:22:54 2015 No.13838529 So, returning to discussion of soldiers, can we at least agree that Rosalie is worst silver soldier? Terrible stats, useless skill.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:23:23 2015 No.13838531

>>13838523
>What's the point in cheating for a temporary account in a single player game?
What's the point of playing this game at all?
What is actually added to this experience by the hundreds of dragonhunting runs that I am missing out on here?

>>13838525
Months of many hours put in every day =/= "months" of logging on every couple days and spending half an hour.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:28:59 2015 No.13838541

>>13838531
Well for one it won't be wiped in 6 months. Outside of that I find growing my team along with the random and strategic components of the game somewhat fun. If I cheat I lose most of the first, all of the second and part of the third.

Like I get it in the context of >>13838525
where it's a secondary account. That's somewhat reasonable for testing and messing around but as a main? Seems odd.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:30:54 2015 No.13838543 >>13838541 Why are you still replying anyway? You're giving him exactly what he wants you know?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:31:02 2015 No.13838544 >>13838500 you literally just need to login twice a day and use up your charisma/stamina Its especially fast if you're doing a daily because they use both and are usually pretty short

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:31:57 2015 No.13838548 >>13838529 Nope, the dwarf soldier is even worse.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:32:03 2015 No.13838549

>>13838523
>I don't really get it. Personally speaking I just skip all the scenes in Aigis and don't really get why people would play it for H CGs considering they are all on ex anyway.
This is what separates DMM R-18 games from other All-age games for me.
Similarly to how I want to watch my characters 'evolve' in other games, (would it be by unlocking skills, changing their artwork or reading their story), I want to see the R-18-specific 'progress' too. I'm not playing solely for the result, I like tower defense and ccg games and the core gameplay proccess. H-scenes just add something to be looking forward to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:32:30 2015 No.13838550 Is it worth hitting the event gacha on LoV? Even with the small pool of potential cards I doubt I'd get 4 of the same. But then again, limited!

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 07:36:19 2015 No.13838555

>>13838541
I find a big fat zero of fun in the grind. That's just it. Skipping through that does not mean I miss out on the actual game part of the towerdefence/rpg, it only means I get there without having to put months of grind in before I can do the events thoroughly.

I put in just a couple days of enhanced grind and then I'm off to wait for the next event while playing other games.
I do not play no-fun parts on the promise of later fun, I get my fun one way or another.

>>13838543
>You're giving him exactly what he wants you know?
The calm discussion, yes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:40:23 2015 No.13838700 >>13838398 did she like it? She always struck me as a Masochist

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 08:54:48 2015 No.13838741 File: 285 KB, 375x519, i-regret-everything.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13838245 I chose Defense Deck. ;-;

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:05:21 2015 No.13838776 File: 279 KB, 373x516, well-maybe-she's-okay.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This game actually seems really fun. I played a lot of Yu-Gi-Oh! video games growing up, so this seems right up my alley.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:06:11 2015 No.13838780 >>13838741 I wouldn't worry too much, since defense can kill units its not as bad as like yu-gi-oh. Think it will be fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 09:10:45 2015 No.13838795 >>13838780 Yeah, I noticed that too. I wonder if this game's mechanics end up getting more complicated as time passes like Yu-Gi-Oh! did (I suppose gimmicky might be a better word.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:17:49 2015 No.13838968 So how does upgrading work in Angelic Saga? Should I max level before I upgrade like in other games?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:22:34 2015 No.13838978 >>13838968 no choice but to max, you need to max before you can upgrade, which raises the cards lvl cap

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:26:52 2015 No.13838990

>>13838978
Oh okay, thanks!
Geeze, I guess I will really have to drop one of the current games on Nutaku because there simply isn't enough time in a day.
Hellfire Girls dropped, I guess. Also saw that there is a western girls edition of Hellfire Girls now, lol. Not sure why the western girls look so bad in comparison.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:34:01 2015 No.13839020
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Well, first pay to win person I've seen, only about 6 hours in how nice lol. Would avoid unless have quick beat deck.

Suppose its possible just lucky but considering having 2 (at least) sakura and jody already seems unlikely lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:40:50 2015 No.13839041 >>13839020 What? I have three Sakuras and a couple of Jodys. They come with the Balanced deck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:41:26 2015 No.13839046 >>13839020 I don't think that's a pay to winner, I think it's a starter deck. I went up against someone with the same 3 cards, but the AI couldn't field them all at the same time and I rolled over it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:43:57 2015 No.13839054
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>>13839041
lol yeah, I was just annoyed at the luck of the computer I think, then as I was checking at found it out, so my bad but meh, mistake since just felt like it, since the luck the comp had.

Think also felt that since they technical 8 cost is shit compared to that lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:45:09 2015 No.13839057 1 medal per win in arena, and there's 5 SRs that cost 10k each. Holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:46:18 2015 No.13839060 >>13839057 My guess is that tournaments will give a lot, or once they rating thing starts scaling, maybe will start to win more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:46:37 2015 No.13839061 So after seeing that H-gallery in Angelic Saga only has 8 movies I guess only a select few cards have H-scenes? That is very dissapointing. Some girls just look perfectly fit for some H action.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 10:48:30 2015 No.13839069 Are you guys saving up your gacha tickets or using them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:05:53 2015 No.13839123 Anyone know how to best use those SR experience cards? Do you just throw them at a character to level up? Or do they work like the spirits in aigis? Or do they work in some other way?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:05:56 2015 No.13839124 >>13839069 I'm using mine for a little bit in hopes of getting something useful then I might save, not sure yet. Used about 5 or so and only gotten phoebe that I use really.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:07:47 2015 No.13839128 >>13839123 They are just large exp cards, don't know if you get a type bonus for combining same rarity but don't think so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:18:33 2015 No.13839169 File: 847 KB, 836x621, WKpBRad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] im stuck ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:21:37 2015 No.13839180 >>13839169 have you tried refreshing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:23:24 2015 No.13839189 File: 88 KB, 791x562, before breast cancer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fake boobs: The Cancering.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:24:26 2015 No.13839196 File: 207 KB, 797x530, 3loli5Aidstralia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:28:47 2015 No.13839213 >Fail Tuesday H even though I've 3* many times effortlessly I don't even know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:32:56 2015 No.13839226 Hah, just got a comeback victory with High Hero Sakura using Never Give Up. As expected of an ally of justice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:56:04 2015 No.13839295 File: 168 KB, 802x584, hate moneys.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So some one already hate moneys on this game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 11:56:57 2015 No.13839301 Server for Angelic Saga seems to be getting slow for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:00:21 2015 No.13839323 >>13839196 Wow, so Nutaku is really improve the art. She look better in bigboob loli form.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:02:31 2015 No.13839335 >>13839323 This is the first time I've agreed some altered art looked better, but you're right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:07:49 2015 No.13839357 >>13839301 Turns out that refreshing the page mid battle brings you right back to the battle. Thank god.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:15:16 2015 No.13839389 >>13839301 >>13839357 Yeah this ain't Aigis, combat is run server-side. Which explains the lag: too many people playing. That always happens on launch days of multiplayer games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:16:03 2015 No.13839391 >>13839357 I noticed that too. I have really unstable internet connection so it helps a lot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:19:09 2015 No.13839406 So what kind of gameplay this Angelic Saga has? I remember trying it out on DMM, but I didn't get past first location, as it seemed yet another LoV clone with zero interactivity. Is it pvp-only re. interactive battles?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:24:45 2015 No.13839427 I think I made the first big mistake of the game. I used the EXP fodder cards I had collected all at the same time on an SR card I got. It max'd the card, which makes me feel like some probably got wasted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:25:48 2015 No.13839432 >>13839406 It's a mix. You have typical LOTV farming for loot. But the boss fights are fully interactive Yu-Gi-Oh clone. PVP is too, it picks random players decks and the server plays them (kinda like in LOTV, but still interactive this time)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:27:41 2015 No.13839439 >>13839427 Prob some, when you are combining, it warns you if what you are using will max the card, so this way you can know if you are potentially using too much.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:28:12 2015 No.13839442

>>13839406
What this guy said >>13839432
Except that it isn't quite Yu-gi-oh! in the sense that the summoning of cards is more like Hearthstone.
Hopefully there are more gimmicky cards somewhere because Atk and Def type effects and card drawing get boring after awhile.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:28:44 2015 No.13839445

>>13839406
It's a MtG clone that uses story progression much like PeroPero, but you actually fight the bosses in card battles. There is also Arena, where you can play against other player's decks (you get gacha points as rewards and can play as long as you want. No stamina is spent in arena) or real time PvP in tournaments, which are related to events.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:29:02 2015 No.13839446 >>13839427 also, I used one ssr fodder on my beast tamer, it bounced her to 31, so assuming that lvls are the same just more of them yeah might be bad.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:35:15 2015 No.13839463

>>13839445
>(you get gacha points as rewards and can play as long as you want. No stamina is spent in arena)
That's a little weird with how everything else in these games is timegated.
But now I can do the actually fun gameplay part forever without pausing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:35:34 2015 No.13839464 >>13838795 Synchroturbopendulumxyz summon when?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 12:44:44 2015 No.13839495 >>13839463 Pretty much. It does get pretty stale pretty fast as you'll be playing against the same slightly modified starter decks and whales and the AI in this horrible and does stupid mistakes. Still, having a game you can actually play is nice.

>>	Xcellion Tue Jul 28 13:21:12 2015 No.13839597 >>13838700 She's a real big masochist. Second scene is bondage play.

>>	Xcellion Tue Jul 28 13:24:57 2015 No.13839608 >>13839335 Add me to that list, I never thought it'd be that good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:29:19 2015 No.13839620 >>13838398 That scene made me think of Rance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:42:52 2015 No.13839668 >>13839620 Prince look fucking like Rance

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 13:50:00 2015 No.13839696 File: 199 KB, 960x640, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Let me heal your wounds got this uke from 2k gacha (on my 2nd mill~)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:02:45 2015 No.13839742 >>13839696 ...what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:03:46 2015 No.13839748 So is Rowanna or Rosalie any good at all? At a glance they both seem shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:05:48 2015 No.13839757 >>13839748 Rowanna is semi-useful, Rosalie is shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:07:24 2015 No.13839764 >>13839757 What use does Rowanna have?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:10:06 2015 No.13839783 >>13839764 Killer of armors and bosses. You let her health drop to 10% and after she delivers 1800 dmg you activate her skill, repeating process till she doesn't kill everyone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:10:47 2015 No.13839787 >>13839783 Can she be healed by others?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 14:12:21 2015 No.13839806 >>13839787 Yes, althrough usually you would prefer to leave her to heal herself or use some switchable healer (bishop, echidna, fedora outside base range etc), so you could keep her under 50%.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:07:14 2015 No.13840035 File: 8 KB, 298x279, boner2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Rowana decides to call you 'master' >tfw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:19:51 2015 No.13840104 >>13838245 Def - It had me at "draw cards". I'll write up a briefing on the LoV event once I'm done getting a feel for AS.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:42:59 2015 No.13840185 >>13839668 Prince is a rainbow man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:52:50 2015 No.13840205 My one gripe with Angelic Saga is not being able to get rid of cards on my side of the field. I want to be able to phase out my weaker cards from the beginning of the duel. Am I missing something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 15:57:16 2015 No.13840217 >>13838529 I'm keeping her because Olivie's Awakening skill is to buff elfs, so I must construct my elf army.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:07:45 2015 No.13840255

>>13840205
Run them into stuff so they die. There's also some magic cards that return cards on your side of the field to your hand. Short of that: Don't overplay your field with low cost cards if you can help it. That's part of why the field limit exists in any card game that has it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:10:18 2015 No.13840266

>>13840255
True enough. I'll try to keep an eye out for those. There are also cards that have effects that remove them from the field, like in the defense deck, you get a low cost card that lets you draw 2 cards and then remove it from the field.
Yu-Gi-Oh! was nice in the sense that special summon/tribute summon/etc got rid of them quickly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:11:45 2015 No.13840278 >>13840266 >special summon I meant ritual, but whatever. Also, is there any idea how soon an event for it will start?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:23:10 2015 No.13840314

>>13840278
Well, ritual summon is a kind of special summon at least. Also no idea when an event is going to start. I think it will be pretty fun when tournament mode starts up and we get to play other players, but I'm really not looking forward to getting my teeth smashed in by the whales.

There's a fucking SR in Premium Gatcha called Mariner Ripple. She has 1700/2000 max stats and costs 7. She can't take *any* damage from cards with less than 1500 attack. I only have one card right now that could damage her at all, and she costs 11. That said, I can't wait to see the power creep in this game, because power creep in Yu-Gi-Oh was absolutely unreal, and games like this kind of have to do that to keep people playing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:28:26 2015 No.13840341 >>13840314 Yeah, I saw that card earlier. I think you can also obtain it with the coins you get from battling players. At least there are entry level cards like the trap card "Invitation to Hell" that can kill it instantly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:31:00 2015 No.13840353 >>13840341 Not the same person, but I managed to get a second one from the prem gachas so hopefully helps with removal for things like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:33:23 2015 No.13840361 >>13840217 hope there's more elf/dwarf only maps

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:33:53 2015 No.13840366

>>13840341
>>13840353
True enough, but if you can "Feel out" whether or not someone is or isn't a whale, you'd probably just leave that card in defense mode or never attack to prevent triggering cards like that and let the other person flail around helplessly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:35:51 2015 No.13840369 >>13840366 Yeah but there are mind games to be played with what traps are down and such. Can give potential repreives to get better stuff (hopefully).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:37:12 2015 No.13840373 Has anyone found the jp wiki for angelic saga? Mostly looking for the exp tables of some sort.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:39:59 2015 No.13840384 >>13840373 http://angelicsaga.wiki.fc2.com/ Though don't see anything really about exp Though I know that a ssr fodder will lvl from 1 to 31 and a ur fodder will lvl from 1 to 50 (at minimum not sure if more)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:49:16 2015 No.13840413 >>13840314 Don't forget that this is the fully upgraded version of her. Most 6 cost units that are upgraded that much seem to reach around 1600 atk as well, even those starter deck ones that start with 900 atk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:52:25 2015 No.13840429 File: 200 KB, 796x525, angsag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Upgrade my berserker waifu >She dyes her hair a different color and puts a different outfit on Doesn't even have the courtesy to get naked, fucking hell

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:53:25 2015 No.13840433 Man, I've gotten two good SRs from gatcha tickets now, so I'm going to stockpile here on out. Time to grind card levels and coins.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:55:51 2015 No.13840440 >>13839463 >>13839495 It'll probably be pretty boring for the first week or two until people actually start making more customized decks instead of just >Default Deck but with one trash unit swapped out for an SR from Gacha

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 16:58:41 2015 No.13840447

>>13840413
If she can't take any damage from anything less than 1500 attack, her attack and defense could be 0 for all it matters. It's a card that essentially counters 99% of *every deck* right now. I'm not looking forward to two weeks down the line when I have maybe *two* cards that can *maybe* beat it if I don't get trapped or something, and the whale has 3 of that card in his deck maxed out. Cards can be beaten, I get it. I know this, I play a lot of card games, most of them are inherently fair in how each individual card can be dealt with. The difference is going to be how hilarious the deck composition differences between paying players and non-paying players is going to be, and that's the point. The 1500 damage block card was just an example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:01:23 2015 No.13840457 >>13840447 Sorry, I guess "could be 1 for all it matters" would be more correct, since if she started at 0 she'd just be dead. The point remains the same though.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:01:59 2015 No.13840460

>>13840447
The biggest issue with comparing this to other card games, is that in other card games you can buy each and every card you use in your deck as a single, never once do you have to gamble on a pack or rely on RNG.

I was actually a little surprised to see a system like that missing from this game, where you can pay a massive amount of gacha points or Nutaku points to get a specific card. Definitely a missed opportunity.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:08:21 2015 No.13840489

>>13840460
I agree. I used to play TGO years ago, and I never got anything worthwhile from packs, aside from the one time I pulled a Chimertech Overdragon from a pack I won in a local tournament. Aside from that, everything I used was purchased as a single card.

If they offered single cards here for reasonable prices, they may as well just have access to my bank account. So I might just be saved. I'm highly unlikely to buy many, if even any at all, RNG draws any more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:09:51 2015 No.13840493 >>13840489 TGO was supposed to be YGO.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:16:34 2015 No.13840514

>>13840457
Actually, a card can live with 0, it's just that she dies the moment she is dealt any damage at all. You can see this if you run a card into that spirit girl that decreases attack by 300 after her death. The attacker will survive, even if this reduces your attack to 0.

So I assume, that Mariner Girl would actually be fine with 0 atk as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:20:09 2015 No.13840525 >>13840514 Interesting, that info might come in handy later, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:21:28 2015 No.13840529 >>13840489 They would have 100% unfettered access to my bank account if there was something like that, too. I just recently went out and built a modern Jund deck for MtG, I have no qualms paying for singles.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:52:15 2015 No.13840657

I cannot find information on the "Ironclad" megaboss currently roaming in LoV. Event 9-Tails was originally event gacha-only.

"Summer Love" quest loot table:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%be%ef%b2%c6%b0%a6%a5%e9%a5%f3%a5%c9

Some cosmetic event-specific equipment and the usual quality fodder at the end.

Event Gacha:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%a5%ac%a5%c1%a5%e3
Search for 「リゾートガチャ」※2013年6月26日

Event Seiryu:
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c1%f3%ce%b6%bf%c0%a4%bb%a4%a4%a4%ea%a4%e5%a4%a6

Cost: 16 / 38 / 58
R->SR+->SSR++ Water
Crit: 8
Bal: 10
Proc: 27 / 30 / 33%
4M: 21386 / 36761

Event Camus
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%bf%bf%b2%c6%a4%ce%b0%ad%cb%e2%a5%ab%a5%df%a5%e5

SSR Earth
Cost: 40 / 43 / 58
Crit: 9
Bal: 9
Proc: 34%
4M: 15979 / 47760

Event 9-Tails
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%be%ef%b2%c6%a4%ce%b6%e5%c8%f8%b8%d1

R Fire
Crit: 3
Bal: 10
Proc: 35%
4M: 12055 / 16402

Event Riza
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%da%dd%c0%b1%a4%ce%a5%ea%a1%bc%a5%b6

SSR Fire
Crit: 10
Bal: 18
Proc: 30%
4M: 19938 / 42774

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 17:53:23 2015 No.13840663 >>13840429 she looks worse now

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:09:56 2015 No.13840703

>>13840657

Hmm, not going to list out Crit/Bal/etc for every single event gacha entry. Here's the rest:

Event Ulrika:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%ba%bd%be%eb%bc%e7%a5%a6%a5%eb%a5%ea%a5%ab
4M: 16600 / 25837 @ 29%

Event Mei Yo:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c7%f2%ba%bd%a4%ce%be%ee%a5%e1%a5%a4%a5%e8%a5%a6
4M: 16747 / 22156 @ 38%

Event Riku:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%ba%bd%c9%cd%bb%b0%c5%b7%bb%c8%a1%f9%a5%ea%a5%af
4M: 13202 / 34470 @ 30%

Unlike her normal form, this Riku I can respect.

Event Maria:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%b3%a4%ca%d5%a4%ce%c0%bb%bd%f7%a5%de%a5%ea%a5%a2
4M: 14248 / 29210 @ 35%

Event Aries:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%ac%c1%fb%c0%ef%bb%ce%a5%a2%a5%ea%a5%a8%a5%b9
4M: 6217 / 40500 @ 43%

Clearly Sharo is in disguise.

Event Kai:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%ba%bd%c9%cd%bb%b0%c5%b7%bb%c8%a1%f9%a5%ab%a5%a4
4M: 17097 / 29607 @ 28%

Is actually a downgrade to her normal form.

Event Cecil:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%cd%bc%ce%a9%a4%ce%c0%ef%bb%ce%a5%bb%a5%b7%a5%eb
4M: 15493 / 31001 @ 31%

Event Kagura
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%b1%ea%c5%b7%b2%c6%a4%ce%b2%d0%b6%e6%cd%e5
4M: 16379 / 30284 @ 30%

Event Seraph:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c2%e7%bf%a9%c5%b7%bb%c8%a5%bb%a5%e9%a5%d5
4M: 13202 / 31233 @ 38%

Well done Nutaku, you introduced an alt version of a valk you haven't actually put in yet.

Event Coo:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%ba%bd%c9%cd%bb%b0%c5%b7%bb%c8%a1%f9%a5%af%a5%a5
4M: 7665 / 36066 @ 42%

She costs like a normal SR (i.e. less than her normal form) and she does her niche better on the beach.

Event Teresa:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%bd%ed%a4%ce%cb%e2%bd%f7%a5%c6%a5%ec%a5%b5
4M: 12708 / 40321 @ 25%

The elf returns, doing the same style of thing as when she was an R. Hits much harder.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:12:12 2015 No.13840714

>>13840703

The Rs from the event gacha:

Event Marin:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%a5%d3%a1%bc%a5%c1%be%af%bd%f7%a5%de%a5%ea%a5%f3
4M: 8969 / 24572 @ 30%

Event Miu:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%bb%fe%a4%c4%c9%f7%b7%f5%bb%ce%a5%df%a5%e5%a5%a6
4M: 9480 / 21450 @ 34%

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:15:35 2015 No.13840727 File: 15 KB, 392x243, 1410383666603.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13840657 >>13840703 >>13840714 Good god make it stop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:19:17 2015 No.13840740 I got the gold pirate - what good are pirates? What role do they play beyond the demon crystal boost?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:31:21 2015 No.13840790 So overall, Event Teresa is the best event SR++ for expedition combat power. Honourable mention to Event Riku, Kagura and Aries. Of course, Teresa isn't going to be on the list of bargain one-off sales.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:35:56 2015 No.13840798 >>13840657 >>13840703 >>13840714 So basically, this event sucks dick and you need to give them your shekels if you want anything?

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:54:41 2015 No.13840868

>>13840740
They fulfill a similar role to Archers, high Physical DPS. They have huge range and damage, but slower attack speed. You're supposed to use them against medium armored units with Defense too high for Archers, but too low to bother doing Magic-only on.

They're kind of shit at low levels since their damage isn't enough to pierce anything that a regular archer can't; but end-game, you'd use them against things like blue/red armors.

You can basically consider them a special type of Archer if you feel like over simplifying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 18:54:55 2015 No.13840871 >>13840740 I like to use them in maps where there are heavy armors, they are good at demolishing them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 19:02:39 2015 No.13840899 >>13840740 they're shit versions of archers with godly skills.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 19:03:50 2015 No.13840906 >>13840798 Basically, it's to turn in those login proofs that you already burnt previously due to the spotlight weekends.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 20:17:24 2015 No.13841103
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superprotip, dont hit the end turn button too fast or it might get stuck on this.

Though that did made me discover that the game is cool enough of a dude to bring you back into the game you were playing when you log in again

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 20:21:27 2015 No.13841104 Oh man it's a good feeling when you suddenly jump that gap between CC and awakening. Just a couple weeks before awakening felt like a long ways away, now I've 3 starred 3 awakening maps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 20:54:20 2015 No.13841202 Anyone getting the main initialize error when playing Angelic Saga?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 20:59:47 2015 No.13841229 >>13841202 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 21:00:21 2015 No.13841233 >>13841202 Only when I've been afk for a long while, like in Pero Pero. Also seems the reset for saga is similar to Pero Pero, which means around 6 to 7 pm cst. Wasn't paying attention.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 21:29:29 2015 No.13841382 Goddamn, the normal gacha in Angelic Saga fucking sucks. I'm willing to bet there's a .0001% chance of pulling an SR, let alone an SSR.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 21:32:54 2015 No.13841391 Holy shit is it normal to get three Rainbows out of four/five tries on Spirit Rescue N? I never do much of Tuesday, so I have no idea. When does Skill Awakening come out?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 21:36:36 2015 No.13841398 >>13841382 The odds do seem horribly low, but at least you can get some free premium tickets and grinding gacha points is easy. I think the gacha odds of DMM games are standardised to some degree.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 21:39:45 2015 No.13841409

>>13841398
Yeah, at least it's somewhat entertaining to get gacha points. I can see some people (possibly myself, not sure yet) grinding arena for days to finally get the cards to create custom decks.

I think prices are standardized too, but in this game it works heavily against it. $5 for random pull? Bitch please, for $4.50 I can get a 15 card pack of Magic cards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 21:48:53 2015 No.13841435 >>13841409 The Premium gacha does seem kind of a bad deal, but at least it gives rares like candy. I've gotten 2 HRs and 1 SSR from the tickets already and the game seems to give you a Premium gacha ticket every 20 arena wins.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 21:49:12 2015 No.13841437 >>13841409 But isn't it the same? It's still a random pack of cards, even if the quantity is higher. Not sure how MTG packs are, but pokemon and YGO were always 1 rare and the rest commons/uncommons that you end up with a hundred copies of.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 21:53:00 2015 No.13841446

>>13841435
Seriously? I've used 5 or 6 tickets and I only get fucking Rs.

>>13841437
1 guaranteed rare/mythic, and 3 uncommons generally. Chance for extra rares and a foil, too. The biggest thing with MTG is that many rares/mythics have decent - absurd value, especially when they're in standard or used in modern.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 22:08:57 2015 No.13841496 >>13841446 Most R+ cards seem to be straight up better versions of lower quality cards meaning they'll fit most decks pretty well, but there are some that look a bit more interesting though you'd probably have to build a deck around them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 22:14:35 2015 No.13841515 >>13841496 The SSR and SR cards are the only ones that have relevant/strong effects, though. I'll probably just grind arena until I someday manage to get 3 of Ripple, Krista, or Onyx. So basically 9 years. Getting Mizuki or Fatima would be cool too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 22:27:46 2015 No.13841555 File: 661 KB, 802x599, 1438136866925.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >these will be the ONLY UR you'll ever see on this game

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 22:41:06 2015 No.13841604

>>13841515
One of the pulls I mentioned here >>13841435 was a Ripple. She's pretty nice even in an attack focused deck, but I'm starting to notice that higher level 6-7 cost attackers can get above that 1500 limit. Mizuki seems to be simply better in that regard.
Krista could make a fun mill deck, but her defence is pretty low so you could get fucked by a degree or Marsha.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 22:41:26 2015 No.13841606 >>13841515 I have fatima and she doesn't fit in my deck at all. I'd totally trade you if this game would allow for it.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 22:45:45 2015 No.13841614

>>13841604
Yeah, I actually wanted to do a BlueBlack stall + mill deck.

Fatima + Krista as my main powerhouses, and Ripple, Mizuki, and Yuzuki as my stalling front. Throw in some discard cards here and there, and some hard removal traps.

>>13841606
Dang, now I'm sad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 22:52:23 2015 No.13841640 >>13841555 P-Please, no.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 22:57:58 2015 No.13841655

>>13841614
There seems to be considerable lack of hard removal. Invitation to hell works only on cards with less than 2000 ATK, which makes it useless against any bigger attackers.
I'm starting to wonder if it's a good idea to build elemental decks due to the elemental counter mechanic. There are far more cards taking advantage of opponents element than there are those that benefit from you having certain elements. The cystals seem to be the only ones while good number of units gain stats when fighting the opposing elements.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 23:00:57 2015 No.13841661 >>13841655 There's EX version of Invitation and other spell/traps in the arena exchange, so I would assume they affect higher attack enemies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 23:02:00 2015 No.13841663 >>13841655 EX-Invitation to Hell for the hard removal, and Beckoning Darkness for milling with dark cards on the board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 23:03:42 2015 No.13841668 >>13841661 EX-invitation affects 2001+ ATK.

Anonymous Tue Jul 28 23:04:29 2015 No.13841671

>>13841655
It's a trade off to be honest. Having 1 element means the enemy can have cards that get a bonus against every card in your deck, but in turn, every other elemental counter card of his will be completely useless. If you have all elements in your deck, you give his counter cards more openings.

Generally it depends on who's in control of the board. If your enemy is in control, being as homogenous as possible is good because the enemy can not capitalize as much on choosing the best attacks. If you're in control, having different elements is better because you can then choose to avoid any of his counter cards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 23:05:22 2015 No.13841675 >>13841104 Say goodbye to being able to actually buy new units with demon crystals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 28 23:45:31 2015 No.13841786 This AI is disgustingly stupid. I can't wait for PVP events so I can get raped by whales.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 00:04:02 2015 No.13841838 >>13841786 Is it too much to ask to have a bracket for people that have spent under $50-100? That way at least it's mostly fair.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 00:18:10 2015 No.13841871

>>13841838
I think there will be some division by RP, but that won't be a thing before the first event. If I understand the wiki correctly, you gain it when you win and lose it when you lose and the game will try to find you opponents with RP close to yours.
As everyone is at 1200 at the moment it will take a while for whales to be separated from the rest so prepare yourself for rape.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 01:05:57 2015 No.13842021 >>13841786 Whenever the ai just randomly decides to suicide its unit into yours and totally concedes board control early, I always fear that it will follow up with some spell card I dont know about and will destroy me. It never happens.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 01:09:44 2015 No.13842035

>>13841871
Well, there's only one option left then: grind arena so hard that the whales can't win by throwing large amounts of money at the screen.

Besides, I doubt even half of the fucking retards that are going to whale can even pilot or build a deck properly.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 01:18:13 2015 No.13842071

>>13842035
There are leaderboards and exclusive cards so people who want in on that will be spending a lot of time and money on the game. Those who want to just play the game at their own pace and without large investment will be trampled by the school of whales going for the leaderboards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 02:23:00 2015 No.13842288 Nutaku dead for anyone else? keep getting 502 bad gateway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 02:27:43 2015 No.13842316 >>13842288 I'm getting application error.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 02:29:38 2015 No.13842325 >>13842288 Same here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 02:43:35 2015 No.13842372 >>13842071 See that RP 1200 score? That changes after tournaments. I'm kinda of hoping players get separated into pvp brackets based on this score.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 02:47:27 2015 No.13842382 >>13842372 Probably no solid brackets, just generic matchmaking in which freemium newbies will mingle with newbies and get smacked the fuck down if their rating gets high enough to attract a whale.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:00:49 2015 No.13842414

>>13842372
The way tournaments work in Angelic Saga (if I read the wiki correctly) is that you will be matched against people with same RP (unless no matches is found, in which case you'll fight someone close to your RP). You will lose or gain RP depending on how well you do. This means whales will move to the top while newbies will sink to the bottom so you willl be playing against people of your skill level.

There are also leaderboards, on which your position will depend on how many matches you win.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:17:01 2015 No.13842441 Man fuck this jp event girl She refuses to go past 26 cost and 5/10 skill. I've wasted so much stamina getting copies of her on the 12 map.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:20:24 2015 No.13842450 >>13842382 Honestly, I think after enough time has passed for even free players to have strong decks, that the best players will sit at the top, and the whales that relied on cards instead of piloting will get smacked down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:23:57 2015 No.13842463 >>13842450 Depends on how the further cards work out. If they're just uber hax super-rares, freemium may have problems competing still. And the very top of course will be skill+whale, no way around that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:27:39 2015 No.13842470 Why on earth would anyone whale this shit anyway, I've done somewhere around 7-10 gacha tickets and all of them have been R with one HR, the drop rates are murder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:29:37 2015 No.13842478 >>13842470 Because crushing other real people in upcoming tournaments is a hell of a drug

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:30:25 2015 No.13842479

>>13842463
Yeah, it depends on the future cards more than anything. If there's no insane power increases throughout the sets, then the free players will catch up over time because the whales can't go any higher.

>>13842470
I've been asking myself this too, but I've already seen a few of the sad fucks decks in arena. I don't understand how people can be so retarded.

>>13842478
Be a normal person and go play Bloomtitan in modern, then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:32:33 2015 No.13842482 >>13842479 >MTG players >normal person Reeeeeeeeally?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:35:56 2015 No.13842490 >>13842482 Definitely. I've met some really great people because of MTG, and multiple very successful people. It's not nearly as bad as people seem to think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:40:19 2015 No.13842505 >>13842490 Oh, I know, I was mostly making a REEE joke. Although it's still not a generically normie hobby. But really here's the draw of cute grills in art, and having a brand new playing field, and the convenience of just being online.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:48:56 2015 No.13842528

>>13842505
Ah, jeez. Sorry, it went completely over my head. Being awake for 40 hours does strange things to your thought process.

But yeah, I can understand that entirely. It's going to be interesting to watch how things shape up over the next little while.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 03:53:16 2015 No.13842538

>>13842479
It depends exactly what you call whaling but you can spend an awful lot of money on an online game and still have it cost less than modern mtg. Hell last time I played my deck in standard was 580 usd in singles (including the sideboard) and that's just standard. Yeah MTG can be not super expensive if you choose your deck carefully and don't want multiple decks to play. In practice however that's not how most whales would play it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 04:03:36 2015 No.13842559

>>13842538
Yeah, modern can definitely get up there. I just finished a ridiculously expensive Jund deck, weighing in at something like $1100. Though, there's some really cheap options for modern that are actually strong too - Hexproof (My favourite deck), burn, infect, and elves for example. I'm just glad I lucked out years ago and bought out a local stores Tarmogoyfs when they were still $20, or I wouldn't be able to afford nearly as much.

I think my biggest issue with people dropping hundreds of dollars on a game like this is that it's digital, and it only reinforces the message that paying for a CHANCE to get something good is okay, and especially at the prices they charge. Shit, you could buy an Inkmoth Nexus (Modern Masters 2 version, of course) for that $5!

Well, and the fact that it grossly imbalances things. I'm entirely in favour of being able to buy singles at a decent price/massive amount of gacha points, but the randomness in a game where you need a 50 card deck is ridiculous. It's compounded even further by the fact that the normal gacha is complete trash.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 04:25:15 2015 No.13842597

>>13842559
Lot of eastern games use a similar system and it makes sense, even if it kinda sucks for the consumer.

I'm going to use Aigis as an example because we know the numbers on it and it's widely player here.

So with current rates a moderate spender can spend $100 and have a reasonable expectation of getting a black. On the flip side someone who wants say 5 specific blacks would have to pay quite a few thousand to get all of them. In this way they can offer more modest spenders something nice while at the same time making whales pay heaps of money for everything they want.

Now lets say all the gatcha drops are now sold for hard currency. How much do you charge? $100 for a black? Well the moderate spender might be happy but the whale is now paying far less money to collect the stuff they want. $800 for a black? Only a handful of whales would ever use the system and even some of them, along with everyone else, would be put off by extreme sticker shock.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 05:13:17 2015 No.13842688

>120 unit slots isn't enough
Aigis pls. I always roll a bunch of silver units and I keep stockpiling them for CC, skill and future awakenings, but they keep coming at a much faster rate than plats that actually need a lot of silvers to CC
I don't even have enough space for fairies

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 05:15:54 2015 No.13842694 >>13842688 DMM has second storage with 250 slots for 30 SC. Nutaku is as always left suffering w/out useful features.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 05:22:19 2015 No.13842703 >>13842559 >normal gacha is complete trash I dunno about that, dude. I've got some really good cards from it. But since these are common, everyone should have them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 05:44:48 2015 No.13842743 In LoV, Is there any real benefit from extra equipment and cards slots than just buying the 500 point storage space?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 05:50:09 2015 No.13842753 That's it. After seeing Angelic Saga going to Nutaku, I just have to give Nutaku a try, even though I hate to leave my PPS and Angelic Saga progress. How different is Nutaku version content compared to DMM.co.jp? Are Nutaku games up-to date with DMM?

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 05:51:54 2015 No.13842760

>>13842753
>Are Nutaku games up-to date with DMM?
no. They're going through all the updates/events mostly in the same way dmm did, so we're years behind
Tell me, does Angelic Saga get more H later on? Right now its 8 scenes and thats it. The cards don't even undress after upgrading

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 05:58:00 2015 No.13842770

>>13842760
>years behind
Okay, so there is a drawback of going to Nutaku version then. Ugh, now I'm not too sure about jumping ship. Would be nice to find people to play this game and have friendly match.

>does Angelic Saga get more H later on
Pretty sure it does. I think the JP version has 60 (based on gallery number)?
Getting units with H scene and unlocking them is fucking bullshit though. I've been playing for a month or two, and all I unlocked is about 4 or 5, and all of them are the story mode ones.
Sometimes, I wonder why I keep playing this game...

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 06:12:53 2015 No.13842793

>>13842770
>Getting units with H scene and unlocking them is fucking bullshit though. I've been playing for a month or two, and all I unlocked is about 4 or 5, and all of them are the story mode ones.

So there are H-scenes outside the story bosses? Where and how do you unlock them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 06:16:07 2015 No.13842795 File: 63 KB, 146x224, LikeThis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13842793 Dem super super rare cards from premium gachas might have H-scene in them. Usually those cards are indicated with "H", like in this image.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 06:29:28 2015 No.13842807

>>13842795
That's interesting. I don't think we have any at the moment or the H is not visible in the listing. I couldn't find a list of them in the wiki either. I wonder if we actually have any cards with H outside the ones that come as a part of the story.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 06:34:30 2015 No.13842817 >>13842441 I mincosted mine in like 6 feeds or so somehow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 06:47:25 2015 No.13842845 >>13842807 It's visible in the recommended window. Nana and Krista have H on them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 06:47:49 2015 No.13842846 >>13842807 Maybe not now, but you'll get them in the future, assuming you lucky enough to get them from gacha.

Xcellion Wed Jul 29 07:40:21 2015 No.13842974

So I checked out a new update for the jap version of Aigis...

Upcoming Maintenance on July 30th between 10:00~15:00:
All-Age Anniversary Campaign:
-Unit Obtained from Tutorial Changed from Gold Valkyrie Carrie to Platinum Archer Bashira.

These damn bastards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 07:45:28 2015 No.13842981 >>13842974 That's a pretty hefty newbie bonus.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 07:46:45 2015 No.13842985 >>13842974 >Platinum Archer Bashira whywhy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 07:47:12 2015 No.13842986 File: 28 KB, 400x572, jcSHsy9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13842974 My Thetis needs her Bashira, godamn devs. also new event grill. Apparently a new class, dark priest.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 07:49:08 2015 No.13842989 >>13842974 > -Unit Obtained from Tutorial Changed from Gold Valkyrie Carrie to Platinum Archer Bashira. What the fuck? Its like they are telling to restart my account there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 07:50:59 2015 No.13842992 >>13842986 What's the shtick? Sounds like it would be some hybrid. >>13842989 As much as I would love the cat, I prefer keeping my pack of event plats, extrahuge due to gold rush.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 07:53:53 2015 No.13842995 I want Bashira too. She is very cute.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 08:19:16 2015 No.13843039
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>need to cc iris but dont have a spare healer
>did grand invasion 2 every day during event
>not one dorca dropped
>fuck it fire up the mouse clicker
>10 tries later a healer drops

aigis works in mysterious ways

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 08:20:53 2015 No.13843043 File: 847 KB, 965x644, 1234553.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13843039

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 08:21:58 2015 No.13843049 >>13843039 >>13843043 posted wrong pic

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 08:22:06 2015 No.13843050 >>13843039 Curious about the mouse clicker, what are you using?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 08:29:16 2015 No.13843063 >>13843050 Not him but I've seen some recommendations about Sikuli.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 08:29:24 2015 No.13843065

Damn, I've got mincost Odette and Paula who are also cute as fuck, but my jew instincts are telling me to farm Noel.
Maybe I should just wait for another event unit with the same AW ability. I can see them releasing one right after her revival for maximum dickery.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 08:29:44 2015 No.13843068 >>13843050 Gs auto clicker was the first one that worked for me. Some others i searched didn't register the clicks You just record the 2 points on the screen, press the hotkey and it clicks back and forth until u need it to stop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 08:31:47 2015 No.13843070 >>13843063 >>13843068 Thank you, I'll give them a try.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 10:29:10 2015 No.13843394 Question regarding Upgrade in AS. Is it needed/recommended to lvl up the card 1st?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 10:35:18 2015 No.13843408 >>13843394 upgrading raises the lvl cap and changes the way the card looks, so don't think it matters. However since you are upgrading to raise the cap, might as well be maxed, otherwise no need to raise it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 10:37:16 2015 No.13843417 >>13843408 although, could also do at lvl before cap i suppose, so you don't overlow any exp. Though unless your using something high that is prob not much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 11:41:47 2015 No.13843628 >>13842703 I've rolled the 10x option 15 times now. Not a single card above an R.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 11:54:38 2015 No.13843664 >>13843068 I have autoclicker and tried it but it didnt register the clicks for me for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 11:57:58 2015 No.13843675 I use automouse click by Murgee, great one. Can set position timing, how many times you want etc etc. Only problem is that it wants you to buy it after certain times of opening it, but you can get around it so not too bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 12:26:06 2015 No.13843785 Seems in Angelic Saga there is a same type bonus when using fodder, a lvl 1 fodder will give 200, but if its the same type it will give 250. I'm not sure if it scales up 25% in all cases but least for lvl 1 normal fodder that is how it works.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 14:32:45 2015 No.13844159

>>13843628
Make that 20 times now.
200 cards pulled, and not a single one above an R.

I'd probably get at least 1 gold doing 200 pulls in Aigis (Well, last time I sat down to do 150 I got 2), which I guess is equal to an HR from this game. Actually, fuck it. I'm going to do 200 pulls in Aigis now to see just how shit my luck really is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 14:41:29 2015 No.13844193 Did everyone else get a HR on their first gatcha pull?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 14:42:20 2015 No.13844198 >>13844159 R is basically UC (lotv) or Bronze (aigis) here. HR is silver; SR is gold.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 14:44:19 2015 No.13844203 >>13844198 Wouldn't SSR be black and SR be plat?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 14:45:08 2015 No.13844204 >>13844159 >get at least 1 gold doing 200 pulls yeah I wish I had such luck. I've read somewhere that you'd need 5mil on average to get a gold.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 14:47:39 2015 No.13844206 >>13844204 If it makes you feel better I've dumped 10 mil in base summon and never seen a plat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 15:04:35 2015 No.13844276 >>13844159 Yeah, no man. If you got 2 in 150 you're mega lucky. Here's the English wiki with the % drop rates for base summon with numbers backed by a 25000 sample size: http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Shrine

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 15:19:05 2015 No.13844331 >>13844203 Well, kinda. Not enough steps.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 15:26:40 2015 No.13844357

>>13844276
I suppose so. I can't help but wonder if the rates in Angelic Saga are equally as shit, now. I mean 200 pulls with nothing above R is pretty bad.

So far I'm 77 pulls into my 200 on Aigis, and I've pulled Bernard, Soma, and Daniella. Not bad, if I say so myself.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 15:35:39 2015 No.13844379

>>13844203
>>13844331
Aigis comparison is not very useful as there is different number of rarities. Still, if I had to make a comparison I'd say they are roughly like this:

Ns are roughly the same thing as irons/coppers in the sense that you can grind them and get mostly them from the gacha.

Rs are about as rare as silvers. You can get both as rewards from story quests and they're somewhat rare in the free gacha, but you still get one every now and then, and very common in premium one.

HRs are close to gold in the sense that you're given couple of them as special rewards but beyond that you'll mostly get them from Premium gacha if you don't get a R/silver.

SRs are Plats. Both are rare from premium gacha and basically impossible to get from normal one.

SSRs are Blacks. You may never actually own one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 15:37:43 2015 No.13844386 >>13844357 Yeah, I'm about 100 something pulls in after looking at that chart and deciding someone has to be lucky (looks like I am atm) and I've got a Bernard, Soma, Elaine, and Lauren. Finally going to be able to get a skill up for Spica.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 15:44:35 2015 No.13844416 >>13844379 You get HRs from the story and the game uses completely different kind of gacha system compared to Aigis.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 15:46:22 2015 No.13844422 >>13844416 I can't help but feel this game is going to try its absolute best to screw you unless you buy pulls at their ridiculously overpriced cost.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 15:52:18 2015 No.13844440

>>13844422
It is a TGC, after all, though it's pretty generous with Premium Tickets so you can get decent amount of free pulls.
That doesn't change the fact that some HRs, SRs and SSRs are simply Rs but better in every way. Mind you, the way the PvP works means you'll be playing against people of your own level so it's not going to be a problem if you don't care about the leaderboards.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 15:56:56 2015 No.13844464

>>13844440
But I mean, TCGs actually involve this concept called "Trading", that eludes the Nips.

Honestly, I've already voiced my displeasure with the lack of a legitimate method of acquiring cards that isn't RNG or ridiculous amounts of grinding + RNG in the case of normal gacha. It's ironic, because the game itself is actually fun, but the systems that the game uses to acquire cards kill it.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:00:16 2015 No.13844474

>>13844440
>>13844464
That's because it's a CCG. Let's be honest, you're not ever going to find a F2P TCG unless the game gives you absolutely zero free premium currency, because otherwise people would just endlessly reroll accounts and then sell off any decent cards they got.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:09:45 2015 No.13844499

>>13844464
It's definitely not kind to those who want to build a competitive deck without sinking a small fortune into the game. The leaderboards will go to those who pay a lot and get good cards because it's definitely the kind of game where you will lose when the opponent's deck has better cards than yours, even if you're good at the game.

Despite that the matchmaking system will hopefully mean the whales will go do their own thing and fight over the leaderboards while people with decks built of scraps will play with each other and earn their rewards that way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:19:15 2015 No.13844527 >>13844499 Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I mean, if you wanted to build the most competitive deck possible, you'd probably have to sink a thousand/couple thousand into the game, just because of how shit RNG systems are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:34:36 2015 No.13844579 Is Angelic Saga by the same devs who made PeroPero? The two seem very similar, but I can't find the name of the studio that made PeroPero.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:35:19 2015 No.13844580 >>13844527 You only need to be more competitive than everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:44:38 2015 No.13844605 Why does the Angelic Saga wiki for DMM have a guide for Japanese players on how to play Nutaku's version? Do we have something they don't?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:46:51 2015 No.13844611 >>13844605 We'll start events from the beginning, so it's probably attractive for players who joined the game very late on DMM and so have shit cards for PvP, and have missed a ton of events.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:50:02 2015 No.13844619 >>13844605 You can start from the beginning and you'll have advantage over complete newbies who haven't figured out the game yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:51:38 2015 No.13844627 >>13844605 So that pathetic Japanese otaku who joined late can come whale on our version and actually win.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 16:52:11 2015 No.13844630 >>13844605 The JP version has some severe balance issues at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 17:09:25 2015 No.13844675 >>13844605 Some people prefer breasts over lolis so some find that aspect of Nutaku versions more attractive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 17:41:03 2015 No.13844788 >>13844386 I managed to grab Julian on pull 147.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 18:16:23 2015 No.13844916 >>13844605 TIL that JP is apparently IP blocked from Nutaku....??

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 18:35:24 2015 No.13845029

I can respect Angelic Saga has something going for it, but the UI is what dampens it for me. Lag while waiting for server - sure. Lag because the UI is slowly telling me which phase it is - no.

Thanks to auto-quest, I'll keep poking at it but I won't be grinding arena.

>>13842743

Less micromanagement. How 'real' that benefit is comes down to how auto-pilot you want to be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 18:49:48 2015 No.13845112 >>13845029 Not sure how slow you are talking, takes not even a second for the phases to change for me, only real lag while fighting is when your about to do the killing blow to 0 lp

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 19:09:08 2015 No.13845183 Got my first black, kinda early too I guess, even though I wasted a couple possible premium summons on the stupid fucking 3 crystal ones. What's Despara good for and why can I only get good Witches and Valkyries?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 19:33:49 2015 No.13845263 >>13845112 "Not even a second" is too long for something as mundane as 'next phase'.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 19:36:27 2015 No.13845275 >>13845263 meh to each there own, I don't think its that bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 19:42:11 2015 No.13845306 >>13845183 Good at being your pet

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 19:58:53 2015 No.13845369 >>13844605 I laughed way too hard at the Q about it being a pirate site. We apparently don't even have a good enough rep to assume we play our f2p games legally. >>13844916 Nutaku redirects people from Japan to dmm's adult site.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 20:22:41 2015 No.13845446 Another day of Angelic Saga, another fucking R from gacha ticket.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 20:25:29 2015 No.13845456 >>13845446 Gonna need to open up that wallet pretty side if you want anything good in this game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 20:27:11 2015 No.13845459 >>13845456 Pretty wide* Goddamnit, let me delete my fucking posts 4chan. Typos are embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 20:43:10 2015 No.13845519 >>13845446 Some Rs are pretty good though. Getting repeat Rs when you already have three copies from the starter deck, or getting a repeat of the free HR from your first gacha roll? Yeah, fuck this RNG.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 20:46:02 2015 No.13845530

>>13845519
It'd be pretty convenient if it stopped giving you repeat copies of something R or higher when you already have 3 of it, wouldn't it? It'd help people that get frustrated by premium gacha and people frustrated of seeing the same R over and over again in normal gacha.

That's probably why a game like this would never implement a system like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 20:51:46 2015 No.13845557 Guys Blaxer is gonna stop playing LoV, feel free to replace me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 20:58:07 2015 No.13845585 File: 226 KB, 960x640, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >5 minutes before maintenance Thanks RNG.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 21:16:22 2015 No.13845674 >>13845585 She hates me, got to 26 cost in 4, then next one was a skill up to 5, and then nothing, and more nothing and even more nothing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 21:29:19 2015 No.13845724 >>13845585 Well mine is mincost, skill 8/10, and already CC'd so ha!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 22:08:44 2015 No.13845894 File: 375 KB, 387x516, First-Upgrade-Mary.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13840429 First Mate Mary looks better after the first upgrade. I hope the next one doesn't mess her up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 22:51:35 2015 No.13846025 File: 306 KB, 320x480, 6d58764c8357e5cda914d488852ed158.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13845894 can check wiki for that kind of stuff http://angelicsaga.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 22:56:12 2015 No.13846034 >>13846025 I purposely didn't look to keep it a surprise (I guess I shouldn't have mentioned it if I didn't want to be spoiled though, I suppose.) Oh well, at least it looks pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 23:02:23 2015 No.13846050 >>13846034 lol my bad, I should have spoilered it but didn't think to

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 29 23:05:03 2015 No.13846060 >>13846050 No worries. Plenty of stuff to look forward to as it is.

Anonymous Wed Jul 29 23:43:26 2015 No.13846187
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>>13842986
New premium Swordmaster. I still think Sandra is the best designed one but it wouldn't surprise me if this one had the max bonus against air and ground units.

Also looks like they're adding a new spirit. Since it's the android version's anniversary I wonder if it will be OP like the exp one from first anniversary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 00:45:54 2015 No.13846354 >>13846187 I'm looking forward to seeing what they came up with for cannonmaster skill awakenings.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 01:04:48 2015 No.13846395 If I'm reading release notes correctly, new resurrection event is for all-ages version only? WTF? Is it ip-blocked or cookie thing should work for all-ages too?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 01:10:39 2015 No.13846406 >>13846395 They do this with most revival events, but you should be able to play the all ages version just fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 01:38:28 2015 No.13846464 >>13846395 I just tried on IE after deleting all my cookies and I didn't need to do anything to log in, but the cookie method should still work if you can't get in. The Android version is all-ages too and doesn't have any region lock.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 01:41:21 2015 No.13846476 >>13846406 I'm new to DMM, but Odette was available for 18+

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 01:48:08 2015 No.13846494 >>13846476 They seem to randomly decide some revivals are all-ages only and they did for this one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 02:16:45 2015 No.13846584 Dammit, I already did half of the revival event the first time around. So much for easy crystals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 03:07:50 2015 No.13846668 Launching 3 events at once like that, DMM is cruel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 03:25:57 2015 No.13846720 >All-age Anniversary Campaign: >-Platinum Healer Camilla Given to Players that Haven't Logged in for 60 days. First Bashira, now this? fucking hell

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 03:45:09 2015 No.13846748 >>13846668 Pretty sure they did that a month ago too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 03:46:41 2015 No.13846750 oh jeez that trading post dmm please

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 03:59:51 2015 No.13846780 File: 365 KB, 1202x803, Woo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Woo! my first of many planned awakenings. Goodbye, gold. I'll miss you. To skill awaken her, I need to get her to 5/5 right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:02:09 2015 No.13846783 >>13846780 Yes. Also another 3 awakening orbs, 300k and AW skill fairy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:08:47 2015 No.13846799 >>13846783 Sounds like I'm in for a hell of a ride. I've already got one skill up in the form of a second Dina, but I'm gonna have to actually care about tuesday dailies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:24:15 2015 No.13846832 >>13846720 I don't play DMM so it doesn't really matter to me, but I've never been a fan of rewarding people for not logging on. Are they at least giving people who actually bother to play their game something for loyalty?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:27:41 2015 No.13846838 >>13846832 Its not as much as rewarding than luring them in again. 60 days means at least 10 missed plats from events, so its not like active players are at loss here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 04:32:06 2015 No.13846847 >>13846838 I'd say more like 5, tops. Unless Gold Rush.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 05:06:31 2015 No.13846908 >>13846847 are you implying JP ever goes 60 days without a gold rush?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 05:16:58 2015 No.13846926 >>13846908 Idunno, I'm new..

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 06:32:52 2015 No.13847049 >>13846847 I've counted, there were 17 different plats total during 06.01 - 07.31

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 07:07:03 2015 No.13847102 >>13846187 >3.4x ATK sin skill >300 range, 7 target max She's shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 07:11:59 2015 No.13847105 >>13847102 Meanwhile the cannonmaster skill awakenings all look pretty neat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 07:34:00 2015 No.13847145 jesus christ what is with that new raidmap

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 08:26:20 2015 No.13847229 >>13847145 Dat princess rush at the end of 600, fuck I'm kill. gonna have to wait a while for more strats to come out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 08:58:15 2015 No.13847306 I've been facing a surprising number of complete whale decks today in Angelic Saga. It seems a good deck with heavy focus on 5-7 mana (turns 2-4) and leveled up cards can handle most SR decks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 09:22:16 2015 No.13847368 File: 31 KB, 329x195, Fragarach.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Uh guys, why is Fragarach spelled funny? They got this right on Sybilla's skill so I don't know what happened here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 09:28:49 2015 No.13847386 >>13847368 nutaku devs are incompetent

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 09:33:06 2015 No.13847406 >>13847386 That's mostly because they don't exist. From what I can tell japs handle everything, including the translations which is why their quality varies from game to game.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 09:56:49 2015 No.13847464

>>13847306
I've made a similar experience. With the exception of Mariner, who's a huge pain to deal with, most of the SRs aren't really that scary because level is way more important than rarity. Due to the way the game works, if you take control of the board midgame, you can just weaken the big stuff up with something and then finish it off with your heavy hitter. Unlike a game like Hearthstone, you don't even need to sacrifice 2 cards for it, you are literally trading something small for something big 1 for 1. Mariner is the one exception since she's completely bypassing this rule, I'm glad the people I faced didn't have her levelled up, so Sakura could still deal with her.

For a similar reason, I actively seek out opponents who use an upgraded version of something really big, because they tend to put a lot of levels into that and ignore their midgame.

>>13847368
I assume that's literally the Romaji spelling for the Katakana word. Top level translation right there. Daily reminder that there's people out there who actually get paid for these translations.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 10:20:09 2015 No.13847549 File: 64 KB, 279x195, Crystals.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Might blow 1 SC if I get close enough today, want my balanced ninja of dragon assassination. Yes, already have a Spica

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 10:35:20 2015 No.13847598

>>13847464
Having started with the attacker deck I have 3 level 30 Framboises (R cost 7 1400 ATK) and 3 level 25+ Asukas (R cost 6 1240 ATK) that can take Mariner with some help from Book of Awakening (N cost 3 spell, permanent 300 ATK to one character). I also pulled 3 Okitas I leveled up to 30 (R cost 6 1200 ATK) that can handle it with similar setup. I'm also leveling up couple of Marshas (R cost 5) that should reach the 1200 mark after an upgrade. Upgraded Rebecca and Jill should also be able to reach that point rather quickly.
Most Rs with decent attack like Vanessa, Natalie and Kira should also be able to hit that 1200 ATK at 30.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 13:29:32 2015 No.13848373

a.i. puts down a face down card
Casts book of awakening on it
I attack it, it's a southern messenger emily

Please, whoever programmed this a.i. should be fired.
Arena got boring fast because it absolutely requires no thought on the player's end. Looking forward to the pvp events though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 13:34:35 2015 No.13848395 >>13848373 At this point I'm looking for ways to murder the AI as fast as possible while learning the cards and getting used to the mechanics.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 14:23:50 2015 No.13848600

>>13848373
It becomes more ridiculous the more you understand about how the ai works. The basic algorithm appears to be this:

Is my atk bigger than my defense?
Yes ---> Atk mode, blindly attack enemy
No -----> Defense mode

It's hilarious, I mean, someone managed to code it in such a way that whether the unit attacks you is not based on whether its attack is higher than your stat, but on whether its attack is higher than its own defense. So a 2 mana card with 255 atk and 150 defense will always be played in offensive mode and attack.

That's why the only cards the ai can somewhat handle playing are defensive cards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 14:27:21 2015 No.13848612 >>13848600 That's some glorious japanese coding right there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 15:23:48 2015 No.13848886 >>13848600 yeah Defense decks always fuck me up. or if someone's Offense deck is upgraded more than mine. most Offense and Technical decks are free as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 16:01:36 2015 No.13849080 >>13847406 >it's not the nutaku dev's fault! it's those damn japs, they need another nuke! nutaku devs means the people developing for nutaku, it doesn't matter where they are

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 17:06:40 2015 No.13849345 File: 201 KB, 645x461, c4k59Fg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Phyllis a cute. A CUTE.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 17:13:10 2015 No.13849372 >>13847306 And here I decided to pump Angie (R cost 2) as a beatdown option. Makes sense that midrange is favoured by the mechanics though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 17:34:13 2015 No.13849457 >>13847306 yeah my favorite cards are around that cost. Rebecca is the god. pity she just looks worse and worse with each upgrade. her default is perfect.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 17:39:32 2015 No.13849480

>>13849372
It's mostly a matter of the scaling, even a fully max levelled Angie is still gonna die to a level 1 Amna, who only costs a single mana more. Even worse, suppose you are the first player and the enemy goes second, you play Angie. Since he starts with 3 mana, your fully levelled Angie will die to their completely unlevelled turn 1 play.

In comparison, a fully levelled 6 drop will already beat every single level 1 card in the game, even high rarity 12 cost cards. That's why levelling mid game cards seems a lot more valuable, it's where levelling really becomes noticable.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 17:44:36 2015 No.13849501

>>13849480
Ah, made a mistake here, Angie wouldn't actually die to Amna because Angie can use her skill against dark enemies. So that particular interaction would end in favour of Angie, but that doesn't really change Angie's low stats against everything else. And you don't even need to level Angie to kill Amna in that case, a level 1 Angie could do the same.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 19:06:37 2015 No.13849727 File: 721 KB, 1640x1200, cutting the crap.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13849345 agreed, though I'm afraid I'm not really into tomboys.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 19:29:14 2015 No.13849778 You know this revival event sure lacks something important. it's time crystals. I've 3 starred every map and I've only gotten 10.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 19:42:59 2015 No.13849820

>>13849778
Well the only maps worth during for revival crystals are the 60/5 maps. The first one has more drops, but I don't think they are 100%. Anyway star/item collection revival events always require you to spend a good amount of crystals if you want decent rewards from them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 20:27:53 2015 No.13850012 >>13849345 its getting a manga?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 20:33:24 2015 No.13850038 What the hell is the deal with the 30/2 map in DMM Aigis' event? Lvl 25 my ass. My team of CC'd shit can't handle the barrage of those fast fuck not-mages and not-liches.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 20:36:32 2015 No.13850049 >>13850038 Time to feed Aigis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 20:45:54 2015 No.13850092 >>13850038 Well you can let 14 enemies pass and let units die and still one star it. The map is really easy even with just basic CC units though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVkta5xG6cY You can probably use a HA or something in place of Gloira.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 21:01:01 2015 No.13850186 >>13850038 You can handle it. It just requires some strategy. Like having a duelist take care of those lich-likes, then retreating them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 21:15:32 2015 No.13850267 >>13850038 The 6 stamina beast map is some bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 21:25:22 2015 No.13850315 >>13850038 Level 25 is to one star it. >>13850012 Nope, several hundred page fanbook filled with character information + comics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 21:33:45 2015 No.13850357 >>13850267 I have some awoken blacks but still I'm waiting until I see a better strat to try it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 30 21:40:53 2015 No.13850389 >>13850357 Unless you only have all bottom tier blacks or something it shouldn't be hard. If you happen to have Nanaly she makes the map a joke.

Anonymous Thu Jul 30 21:49:34 2015 No.13850426

>>13850389
I have Sue which isn't quite as good because she's not skill awoken since she's not awoken. My main problem is that I don't have very good melee or magic resisting stuff. I'm sure I could take it on, and I do need to farm some fodder to awaken my Sue so maybe I should just go for it since I'd be farming it more than once regardless.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 31 00:32:07 2015 No.13851089 >>13840703 Is it bad that all I want from this event are Seraph and Teresa? Should get about 21 gold from logins before the event ends and I'm sitting on 7 currently... It won't be enough to get 4 of either.

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