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Current Aigis Event: Crisis of the Fairy Village
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Fairy_Village

Current LoV Event: Time Corridor
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Corridor

Current Pero Pero Event: Coliseum
http://harem-battle.club/peropero-seduction/94-event-2-peropero-coliseum.html

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

Lord of Valkyrie links:
>Game link:
http://www.nutaku.net/games/lord-of-valkyrie/play/
>English wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Valkyrie_Wiki
>Japanese wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/
>/jp/ player list:
http://pastebin.com/URgv8JPA
>Grind table by an anon:
http://imgur.com/y90G0cS
>Required strength for explorations and their rewards:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Exploration
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%c4%b4%ba%ba%c0%ef%c3%c4

Millennium War Aigis links:
>Game link
http://www.nutaku.net/games/millennium-war-aigis/play/
>Japanese ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>English ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>Japanese Wiki #1:
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/
>Japanese Wiki #2:
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/
>English Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png
>Vid anon's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkAJz5hSVU_zaF0EqLiCKkg

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

>> No.13809976
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13809976

Black soldier hype

>> No.13810038

>>13809976
Her body looks great but her face could use a lot of work.

>> No.13810067

>>13809709
try putting your strongest healer on the right side, its the harder one for you.

>> No.13810151

>>13810067
That's actually what I tried on my most recent attempt. Unfortunately the healer and Nanaly both died horribly.

>> No.13810453

>>13810151
Have you tried dumping a melee unit on top of the archers once they show up? Or are you already using up everyone by that time?

>> No.13810491

>>13810453
I have spare units, the problem is none of them are suited to the task near as i can tell. The only units I have that hit hard enough to kill them semi quickly and tank well enough not to melt are Sherry and the prince. Sherry is fairly ill suited as she's rather expensive and the targets are unarmored. The prince would be perfect but I can't see a situation where I do that and don't have to withdraw him later.

>> No.13810647

>>13810491
If you can manage the rest without the prince buff, there's nothing wrong with withdrawing him.

>> No.13810758

Is it worth doing Skyfallen H? Feels like Phalanx 2 is better, especially since you also get fairies--anecdotal.

>> No.13810853

>>13810758
With all the extra stamina we have to spend between events there's pretty much no reason to ever run it on Nutaku.

Even on JP they refer to it as garbage from the sky since once you have a solid team it's pretty hard to give up all that charisma for a small boost is affection per stamina.

>> No.13810982

>>13810758
Skyfallen H has about triple the average affection compared to Phalanx 2. So yes, worth it unless you constantly find yourself with 0 Plat/Gold Fairies or something.

>> No.13811128

>>13810982
Not sure where your averages come from, but Phalanx 2 should be around 1.8 affection per stamina and Skyfallen H around 2.9 affection per stamina. It's a decent increase but no where near 3 times as much.

God tier Skyfallen with the 1.5 drop rate bonus is estimated around 5.4 affection per stamina.

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>> No.13811219

>>13811132
>Never coming to Nutaku: The Unit

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>>13811219
>no funtimes with undead loli
Sucks.

>> No.13811283

>>13810853
On JP they run god tier and get like 15% aff per run or something.

>> No.13811340

>>13811283
3 Diamonds and 4 Rubies. The Rubies drop very easily, usually you'll get a Diamond or two too in my experience so probably like ~40% drop rate for each Diamond?

>> No.13811350

>>13811283
God tier(x9) = ~132 affection
Hard tier(x12) = ~107 affection
Phalanx 2(x12) = ~66 affection.

It mostly depends on if 40(66 for god) affection is worth trading for 720 charisma and some fairies. On Nutaku you have some much extra time to farm affection I can't see it being worth it at all.

>> No.13811480

Man, I sure wish I got any drops from this event.

I was getting a lot of drops, then once I got to 36 stars suddenly the only drop I'm ever getting is a single demon crystal. Not even any fairies from the 100/2.

Been like this for days.Cleared cache a buncha times. fuck.

>> No.13811560

>>13811238
I'm going to learn how to play this just to abandon it for the Japanese version.

>> No.13811737

>>13811480
Clearing your cache also empties your accumulated luck! Don't ever do it!

>> No.13811770

>>13811350
>God tier(x9) = ~132 affection

Goddamn, my guesstimate of 15 per run was closer than I thought.

>> No.13812007
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>decide to spend some crystals on premium on DMM Aigis.
>My First Black.
Is... Is it a good one?

>> No.13812050

>>13812007
She's a bit situational since you need to know the map beforehand, because she doesn't actually do anything unless you activate her skill.

>> No.13812057

>>13812007
She can be very strong for her cost, but she's incredibly dependent on her skill level so be sure to give her all your rainbow fairies until she's at 5/5.

>> No.13813160

No new skill awakenings or anything this update, 0/10.

>> No.13813333

How good would you consider the currently boosted drop rate units? Are the pirates any good? What about Olivie, is she a lucrative unit to use (other then her awakened ability but we don't have awakening yet so it's a moot point for me)?

Asking because I have 40 SC that I can spend in summons, but don't particularly think any of the current units are that great and am wondering if I should wait for the next event or just roll anyways.

>> No.13813398

>>13813333
Monica has a passive that increases demon crystals drop rates.

So think about that.

>> No.13813443

>>13813333
If you have Karma you don't really need Olivie, unless you really need to tank physical attacks.
Monica is pretty handy.
Marius is strong but male and who wants male units anyway.
Dunno about Rachel but she looks nice.

I'd say hold onto the crystals for an event that has a unit you really need or just a waifu you like the look of.

>> No.13813467

>>13813398
She's farmable in the 3rd gold rush, so think about that.

>> No.13813473

>>13813333
Pretty bad, wait for a gamebreaking black.

>> No.13813476

>>13809976
There I was, thinking she looked like the German girl in Majikoi, and it turns out they're by the same artist.

>> No.13813503

>>13813467
So when's that gold rush?

>> No.13813561

>>13813503
Not long after awakening, potentially.

>> No.13813735

>>13813467
Nutaku will never ever have Gold Rushes, so think about that.

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A drop type event.

>> No.13814097

New black is interesting one.

>> No.13814099

>>13814032
Damn, looks like I might have to use some crystals to mincost her, she has a nice AW Passive and her skill looks solid so far.

>> No.13814106

>>13814097
Yeah, her skill is obviously not reinforcements 4 since that would be dumb. Wonder what she's like after awakening, though.

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>>13814106
Seems like her skill makes Cost regenerate super fast for the duration of her skill.

>> No.13814361
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got my first black is she any good?

>> No.13814370

>>13814106
Her skill is specified on banner. When activated, she keeps regenerating unit points, cannot attack, block and defence increases and she can reflect enemy attacks at them.

>> No.13814377

>>13814361
Why do lucky people exist?

>> No.13814380

>>13814361
I love my grace, tanks and nukes stuff at the same time. great help for monday/tuesday godly maps.

>> No.13814479

Does anyone know why my android app only seems to work when logging in through Wifi? Whenever I try to start it up through the mobile internet connection, it just crashes. If I log in through Wifi and then switch, it works fine, so it's only the login that seems to be affected.

Anything I can do to fix this, or is that just how the app works for everyone?

I'll be leaving for a wedding somewhere in the middle of nowhere tomorrow, where I doubt I'll have any wifi available, and it would be a shame to lose the rainbow fairy from the login stamp due to that.

>> No.13814743

What are the ways to get Black Spirits in Nutaku?
I'm not doing Spirit Rescue, and I haven't gotten past War of Magic. Seems like the only other way is to get it from the trading post but I don't have the demon crystals to spare either.

>> No.13814747

>>13814743
Using crystals for spirits is absolutely awful.

So either get past WoM or do tues/friday like everybody else. You think there's some hidden feature just for you?

>> No.13814823
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Got this cute loli while trying for Fuuka. Is she usable? She looks like a mix between samurai and monk, but her stats seem kinda low.

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>>13814823
Fuck I want her, if only for the cuteness.
Seems like her skill doubles her hp/atk/def. And she gets 70% chance to avoid physical attacks on awakening.

>> No.13815005

I've been re-rolling my account a couple of times and now I have an account with Marius and one with Clissa. Which one would be more useful to me ?

>> No.13815035

>>13814893
That skill looks great and it doesn't take that much time to activate. 70% avoid sounds really good as well.
Her attack speed is lower than a monk though and I have mincost Rin, who seems like a better choice for taking care of early rush. But damn, she really is too cute to leave on the bench. I guess two anti-rush units could always come in handy.

>> No.13815143

LoV bros, roll call.

What have you 4M'd, what are you trying to 4M? Just for fun.

4M'd:
-Mobile Girl Delta
-Pure Girl Marin
-Quiet Knight Athena
-Vacuum Witch Teresa
-Blue Shil of Mercy
-Flame Athlete Hana
-Reaper Girl Mabel
-Earth Fairy Titanne

Working on:
-Ice Killer Maid Hyoka
-Ghostly Apparition Mea (missing two copies)
-Sword of Stream Shion
-Storm Princess Erika (missing one copy)
-Angel of Sin, Riku (working on 2M, missing two copies)
-Mountain Goddess Shizuku (2M'd, missing two copies)
-Dancing Warrior Mei Yo (2M'd, missing one copy)
-Magic Fencer Aries (2M'd, missing two copies)
-Walking Dead Meira (missing two)
-Prayer Girl Kagura (2M'd, missing one copy)
-Dubious Fox Shun-Lan (working on both 2Ms)
-Temple Knight Layla (2M'd, missing one copy)
-Fortune-Teller Melissa (2M'd, missing one copy, fucking Tsars)

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>>13814353

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FUCK_YOU_AIGIS

>> No.13815257

>>13815238
Aigis really wants your crystal. Why do you deny her?

>> No.13815266

>>13815257
she deserves none since last 6 silvers and Conrad on premium

>> No.13815275
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Post your last 14 cards

>> No.13815298

>>13814823
I got her too, it was while i was trying my acc on JP, seriously thought about changing from nutaku to JP and still am thinking about it. Its just that, i'm already way too far ahead on Nutaku to migrate.

>> No.13815317

>>13815238
what game is this? saw the image on 'most recently posted' on front page of 4chan.

>> No.13815320

>>13815317
Millennium War Aigis
links in op

>> No.13815398

>>13815266
This is just a test of faith in aigis sama. If you are gratefull for every silver or male unit you get, you'll ultimately be rewarded by lots of black sluts.

>> No.13815635
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please

stop hating me aegis

>> No.13815641

>>13815635
Why do people post results/image of one run? Yes dipshit, sometimes you will get bad drops. Yes dipshit, sometimes you won't get any drops.

Come back with >100 results and we can talk.

>> No.13815649

>>13815641
That's been every non story run for the past eh..3 days?

The only exception being a single demon crystal each time I ran the 50/5.

>> No.13815829

>>13814743
Do the fuckin' daily.

If you have a black ready for CC but can't get it to drop is the only possible justification for tradepost black fairy.

>> No.13816231

>>13815829
not even then

>> No.13816252

>>13815145
So her ability boosts soldier hp by 15% and auto retreats them when they die basically. Her awoken skill goes from being defensive to offensive, she gets fast attacking, 1.9x atk, and -1 block, and recovers 15 cost like a normal soldier.

>> No.13816504

First premium summon, another Healer Alissa.
And I am super out of Charisma.
This is one of those games, huh.

>> No.13816647

>>13816504
Your first premium summon ever? You shouldn't be able to run out of charisma when you first start the game unless you really try to.

>> No.13816860

>>13815143

List may not be 100% accurate:

UCs: Pham, Elle, Cecil, Rukia, Tsukasa, Phil, Delta x2
Rs: Hyoka, Shil, Naga, Athena, Marin, Sophie, Olga, Flare, Sharo
SRs: Mabel, Hana, Melissa, Shun-Lan, Kagura, Aries, Titannia, Pamela, Riku

Notable pending list:
- Kai (have 4 copies, grinding them up)
- Camus (have 2 copies, forever grinding Dorongo Castle)

>> No.13817049

>doing 55/7
>wonder what will happen if I place an archer in range of the gunner on the pyramid
>gets one shot
Sometimes I wonder if I'm legitimately retarded.

>> No.13817216

>>13817049
it's called experimentation, that's how you get better/faster ways to do a map

>> No.13817281

>>13817049
At least you only placed an archer.

I placed a healer on that spot and it caused all other units near her to die.

>> No.13817313

>blow some saved up crystals on 8 rolls
>get a black shaman

Feels like you always get something that's out of the units of the week. Better off rolling for that soldier some other time.

>> No.13817333

>>13817313
Just because she has double the rates or whatever of the other blacks doesn't mean you aren't more likely to roll one of any of the others. The chance of getting her if you roll a black would be like 1/10 instead of normally 1/20 or however many blacks there are.

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>>13815238
You think you have it rough?

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>>13818100
>>13815238
Figured I'd join in too.

>> No.13818328

>>13818298
You are completely missing the point.

>> No.13818349

>>13818328
Or am I?

>> No.13818376

>>13818349
Nothing to spend it on? why not CC spica or saki.

>> No.13818634

>>13818376

Maybe he wants a min-cost Chydis, lol.

>> No.13818654

>>13818634
How do you min-cost stuff? I am new to the game and I know you always CC at lvl 50 and rainbows upgrade skills but what is awakenings and the process to cheapen units. Also I got a Cecily from the event and it is 1 point more expensive the the original that I have what is the difference?

>> No.13818700

is nutaku kill? getting 502 and can't play anything

>> No.13818702

>>13818654
There's a chance to reduce cost whenever you combine two units with the same name. For silver or higher, it's always 100% chance the first time, but gets lower the closer you get to min cost.

>> No.13818705

>>13818654
Feeding a unit the same unit has chance of leveling up the skill (works with any unit that has the same skill) and reduce the cost (works only with exactly the same unit, but can use not CC'd fodder with CC'd unit). The reason your Cecily is cheaper may be that you have at some point used another Cecily to level it up.
For obvious reasons, CR (cost reduction) is not recommended for units you can't farm.

Awakening is an upgrade much like CC that is currently not in english version so you probably don't have to worry about it for now. It's done to CC'd units, requiring CC'd fodder and special fairy.

>> No.13818735

>>13818700
Getting a mix of 502 and 504 errors here. It logged me out when it started and hasn't let me log back in since.

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sweet first black gold on the eng version

>> No.13818895

>>13818838
>black gold
It's black, anon. Nice crop too.

>> No.13818961

>>13818838
Now go amass your elf army, and then min-cost Spica.

>> No.13819026

>>13818838
good luck farming rainbow fairies anon!

>> No.13819141

>Come into thursday with full stamina
>Use all stamina through the day
>Hit 120 as well and use that extra stamina
>30 crystals in total

pls

>> No.13819166

>don't want to farm Kanon since I already have 50CC50 Zora
>Kanon drops almost all the way through the missions I oneshot for 1SC
>3 Kanons fed result with 4/10 skill and -3CR

I guess you leave me no other choice Aigis

>> No.13819277

>>13819141
Sounds like exactly what happened to me to lol. Just did last run got 1 lol. Pretty unlucky this week.

>> No.13819389

>>13819141
I got 63 demon crystals from my 4 runs, 3 more than I needed to get Saki.

Now that I have Saki I don't really want her though. All my blacks are niche units(Saki, Karma, Anya), maybe one day I'll get one I want on my main team

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>No Aigis Character Profile Book out yet on torrents

get your shit together china

>> No.13819451

>>13819435
Btw will Nutaku ever get those p2w sapphire units?

>> No.13819462

>>13819451
Yes. After they reach one million units milestone.

As for now it seems like Aigis developers almost don't bother with eng version anymore. As opposed to LoV and even Pero Pero devs who seem to be in constant touch with nutaku.

It still dreads me when I remember that post Nordland admitted Aigis devs didn't bother to answer their questions for almost 4 weeks.

>> No.13819494

>>13819462
You aren't spend enough money, spend more :^)

>> No.13819673
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>>13818100
Thank fuck for the fact that the current event drops demon crystals

>> No.13819818

>>13819435
chinks can't even do their job of stealing right

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sapphire units is good

>> No.13820021

>>13819956
No wonder that thing costs 10

>> No.13820132

These 50% featured units are such a scam.
I've got 5 fucking Kerries, and 3 other golds, yet no Monica. How is it possible?
Also, no platinums or blacks. Should probably just order chargeback, fuck this shit.

>> No.13820165

>>13820132
5/8 golds being the exact same non spotlighted one sounds either fake or the RNG is screwed up.

There are 18 golds so the chance of even getting 3/8 be the same is really low. You might want to try poking Nutaku to check that nothing odd is going on?

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>>13820165
Already spent one for uc-1, but here are rest of them. Also, other 3 golds I got: second copy of fucking Stray, second copy of Bernice and Iris.

>> No.13820215

>>13820190
I thought gold were supposed to start at 10 not 5?

Either way I hope your luck improves and/or Nutaku helps you out anon. Really unfortunate it turns out that way for you.

>> No.13820269

Also, having both Barbastroff and Cyrus is completely pointless, right?

>> No.13820298

>>13820269
Not completely. There are a few situations where you'll want two mages so... I would note however that Cyrus is more of a side grade than an upgrade from Valerie assuming you disregard awakening which we don't have.

>> No.13820420

>>13820215
10 for gold males, 5 for gold females.

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Summer is coming to Lord of Valkyrie on the 28th.

>> No.13821525

>>13821007

I think that's this one:
> http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%be%ef%b2%c6%b0%a6%a5%e9%a5%f3%a5%c9

Rejoice, fans of Seiryu (aka Blue Dragon). She comes back as an R at the end of the quest.

>> No.13821542

>>13821525

It's also our first event with its own gacha:
>http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/d/%a5%ac%a5%c1%a5%e3
>リゾートガチャ」※2013年6月26日(水)15時 ~ 2013年8月30日(金)15時まで

Good strategy: make a fanfare of "increased chances to get element X from gacha". Then release an event where you get exclusive gacha.

>> No.13821549

>>13821542
I've been duped! Well, shit.

>> No.13822166

>>13821542
>>13821542
>Increased chance of water cards at gacha!

Roll twenty times get 2 Marins and 1 Hyouka
Not gonna lie I was a little mad even though I didn't expect much

>> No.13822725 [DELETED] 

Yeah lets bump this

>> No.13823131
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I'M GETTING THERE

WHO NEEDS PLATINUM ARMORS

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Sybilla's Little Sister
Princess Knight Patel

>> No.13823250

>>13823228
Is... Is that real?

>> No.13823266

>>13823250
Yeah, she's a sapphire.

>> No.13823286

Still zero silvers from nutaku event. That's not even funny anymore, I get better drop rates from gold summon.

>> No.13823306

>>13823286
And just as I posted this, I finally got Dorca. Still need at least 2 Daniellas tho.

>> No.13823321

>>13823306
Shame you couldn't grind them from the previous event. I have 9 sitting around after mincosting and CCing one and CCing a Spica.

>> No.13823348

I have a rainbow fairy now, but the only black unit I have is Deine. Platinums are Sakuya, Karma (I know), Cypria, Hina, Maribel, and Spica.
Should I just hold on to it for now? Wikia doesn't really talk about it much other than what it specficially does.

>> No.13823359

>>13823348
Give it to Deine.

>> No.13823364

>>13823348
I'd save rainbow fairies for black units as you aren't going to get their skill up outside of dupes (some plats can be skill up'd from other event fodder) so give it to Deine. Or you could save it in the hopes you get another black from the gacha

>> No.13823365

>>13823348
Feed it to that 1 level silver.

>> No.13823372

>>13823364
>>13823359
>>13823365
Thanks, I'll just hold on to it for a little bit before deciding whether to give it to Deine.

>> No.13823389

>>13823364
Some blacks can be skilled up with event fodder too.

>> No.13823678

Level 56, have all free units plus Conrad and Vincent, have Katie, Healer Dorca and Archer Daniela CCed.

Trying to 1 star Grand Invasion to get Rowanna - what unit should I focus on building to get that fourth mission done?

>> No.13823707

>>13823678
A Witch. Probably a Valkyrie too, but you're Conrad can handle it most likely.

>> No.13824285

>>13823678
That mission has a couple of dragons and red gargoyles so a witch

>> No.13824473

>>13819166
Man, mine is at -4 cost now but still skill level 2.

>> No.13824771
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I know it's not much of an achievement, but I'm pretty chuffed to have beaten the last Fairy Village mission, as it's the first time I've beaten all the missions of an event(I've been playing since the 2nd Ryujin invasion event showed up).

I was surprised how easy it was to 1-star the last 2 missions. I never got to the end of the Vampire Event(I had few CCed units at the time) & I remember the final missions of Maribel's event being a nightmare.
But when I got to the last missions here, I completed them first time round.

I think i'll use these last few days to farm Silver units, and see if I can get from 18 stars to 22 (24 would seem to ambitious).

>> No.13824817

>>13824771
I've started in early June and easily 24ed this event. Its VERY easy, just follow nasu tactics and you will 3* last missions on first try.

>> No.13824837

>>13824817
Is Nasu one of the Nicovideo guys? I remember seeing some really good nico vids, some of which I found really helpful in improving my grades(I beat every mission by myself, but often used videos to find ways to beat them better).
Actually, is Nasu the guy doing the videos with no CC-ed units?

>> No.13824845

>>13824837
Nasu videos are linked on wiki page, http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Fairy_Village
They are mix of silver CC/non-CC, but nothing unusual and there's plenty of room to replace his units with something else (I use CC Kate instead heavy to block avenger on left side, for example).

>> No.13824859

>>13824837
Nasu is more about value and efficiency. He's personally the best for making Aigis videos.

No-CC "strats" are just a joke. You have all these max level no CC units. For what? As if CCing a unit takes any skill, effort or resources. It's hilariously cheap, quick and easy to CC something.

>> No.13824874

Use 3 crystals to rare summon and get silver unit or use 5 crystals to premium summon and get silver unit?
What to do?

>> No.13824884

>>13824874
Premium is the only choice

>> No.13824917

>>13824859
>You have all these max level no CC units.
The non cc-ed videos I've seen have never used maxed level units.
>As if CCing a unit takes any skill, effort or resources. It's hilariously cheap, quick and easy to CC something.
It does take a while, quite a lot of grinding, and you need Silver units, which aren't an infinite resource.

The non-cced videos show how you can do things with the minimal tools, so if your team's even a little better than that, it's easy to adapt the strategy and makeit easier for you.

>> No.13824919

>>13824917
> Silver units, which aren't an infinite resource.
Are you new to Aigis?

>> No.13824949

>>13824859
CCing a couple of units is fairly easy but getting a whole team up to 40CC50 including needed swap out is actually quite time consuming. All up your looking at around 25 units including swap outs. That's over 625k exp even if they are all only silver. For context that's over a year and a half worth of exp armors if you average one per week. Or if you prefer around 1600 dragon hunting runs. That's over four months of charisma of farming dragon hunting before you factor in level ups by the way.

>> No.13824950

>>13824919
how new's new?
You need sacred crystals to roll for them, which are finite outside of the login bonuses which can take a long-time to gather, or get them from drops in events, where (alike the gacha) you're at the mercy of the RNG.
otherwise you get them from completion bonuses, which are, definitely finite.

>> No.13824958

>>13824950
You get 1 silver for about every 60-80 gold gacha runs.

>> No.13824960

>>13824950
Not that guy but you wind up getting most of them from gold rolls. Less so when good events for farming them are on. Still the gold gatcha spits out enough to more or less cover CCing assuming you actually farm with your charisma.

>> No.13824963

>>13824949
>40CC50
Why is somebody who doesn't know what they're doing trying to act like they know what they're talking about?

>> No.13824969

>>13824917
You can grind silvers from events so getting them is easy as long as you put in the effort when a good event comes around.
You can also get a unit CC'd in a day or so, less if you have any armors from monday. Getting your team to a point where you can comfortably deal with most pre-awakening events takes couple of months of somewhat active playing.

>> No.13824973

Last hour of these posts makes me think how much the average player here (or even in general) plays. I play actively every day (which I can do most of the time) and am quite knowledgeable on the game. Whereas I can't say that about a lot of people here (or again, at least players in general for this game)

Not to sound vain, but how casual is the average player for MWA?

>> No.13824975

>>13824963
I made what like 6 other typos in that post? Nobody in their right might would think I was actually suggesting someone CC a unit at 40.

>> No.13824976

>>13824975
>I CC units @ level 40
>But that doesn't mean I CC units @ level 40
Stop posting.

>> No.13824996

>>13824973

To get an idea, browse the comments on Nutaku's facebook. Then there's the fraction of players who have 'retired' into casual routines - i.e. grinded hard early on but now don't bother to spend 100% of stamina.

>> No.13824998

>>13824973
Personally I play quite actively, far more than there is any use in doing with the stam/char regen rates anyway.

The last hour or so seems to be a mix of people understating things they have already done in classic online game fashion and the counteraction to that.

Having said that it's still a browser game so churn is likely non trivial to say the least.

>> No.13825004

>>13824975

"40CC50" means "I CC'd a unit at 40, then levelled it up to 50 afterwrads". Had you said "50CC40", nobody would be throwing a fit.

>> No.13825007

>>13824973
I used to be obsessed with spending every point of stamina and charisma I have, but I'm at the point where I have pretty comfortable number of 50CC50 units lying around and Immortal Beast 3* so I drop in every now and then to complete any event and grind the shit out of anything I'm interested in, but most of the time I just don't bother playing and end up sitting on max stamina and charisma until monday, wednesday and thursday when I add more things to the pile of unnecessary EXP armors I can feed to kind of interesting event units or add more things to the pile of shiny things to be exhanged for sex or units.

>> No.13825012

>>13825004
To clarify it was a typo if that wasn't clear. That's why I mentioned the fact the post was hardly lacking other typos. Perhaps I could have made that clearer.

>> No.13825026

>>13825012
Or proof-read before shit-posting like everybody else, faggot.

>> No.13825042

>>13825026
I do proofread my posts. I only do it once however so I do miss things. I'm also hardly the only person making grammatical errors and the like in this thread. Case and point proofread doesn't have a hyphen.

>> No.13825065 [DELETED] 

>>13825026
>>13825042

Ok, shut the fuck up both of you. That's nutaku general not primadonna meetup.

>> No.13825072

>>13825065
>someone says they CC units at 40
>gets pulled up
Perfectly reasonable. Don't get your panties twisted because some people here actually read and think each post.

>> No.13825155

>>13825072
4 and 5 are close on the keyboard, so it's a believable typo, and it's not like everything else he said was wrong. Stop trying to stir shit.

>> No.13825163

>>13825155
They claim to proof-read yet they didn't.

>> No.13825167

>>13825155
Why not try not responding to him, you're just as bad.

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>>13825072

>> No.13825174

>someone tries to spread misinformation
>people who correct them are bad
Fuckin' /jp/ you're losing it.

>> No.13825179

>>13825167
I just woke up, this retard is the first thing I see on this thread.

>> No.13825262

>>13824771
I've been playing since the end of the vampire bride and managed to 3 star all missions of this event. Nigga what are you doing

>> No.13825305 [DELETED] 

>PeroPero developers can adjust the leaderboard during the event to answer the demands of community

>Aigis devs refuse to change Roarana name because it's too much fuss

There are good Japs and bad Japs it seems

>> No.13825308

>>13825262
How do hell did you 3star the 2nd last mission?

>> No.13825319

>>13825305
As expected of the servants of the stingy goddess.

>> No.13825322

>>13825305

This assumes changing a name is easier than changing a leaderboard. It's all too likely that they coded in a shit way such that changing a name is actually really convoluted. "Bad" in a different sense, but your statement still holds true.

>> No.13825332

>>13825308
I just micro'd it correctly.

>> No.13825370

>>13824973
I play as soon as I wake up and at night once the daily changes in my time, it takes about 15-30 mins each time and I do it while watching the daily anime so it's not like it's that much of a chore. As long as stam/charis don't sit at max for hours really.

I browse the jp wiki every once in a while and I follow three Aigis nips on youtube (although only nasu has vids of the old events). I visit pixiv for every few weeks to look at the art and porn.

I'm kinda into the game, I'd like to see a big VN game spinoff like Eiyuu Senki or Rance something, LoV got a small VN at the very least

>> No.13825410

>>13824973
I was starting to lose interest in grinding all the dragon hunting to make use of all my charisma, until the last patch. The 2x toggle button and the fact that the game now runs smooth as silk instead of chugging like mad, made it a lot more enjoyable. Since I can now just place the three units, hit the 2x button and do something on my other screen without the fear of the game crashing on me. It's pretty painless to grind like this.
I just wonder what I'm actually grinding for at this point. I guess I am preparing for that high level content that may eventually come? Maybe?

>> No.13825490

>>13825410
>2x toggle
How does this make any difference at all? It's the exact same now as it was before. DH is a good example since you mentioned it.

Here's my routine,
>start mission
>2x to get enough points for Witch
>place Witch
>2x for Archer #1
>place Archer #1
>2x for Archer #2
>place Archer #2
>2x toggle (or drag off of the window pre-toggle)
Alt-tab/whatever else in the mean time. Come back when I want/think it has finished.

Exact same effort and time required pre-toggle and post-toggle. Why do some people here act like it's some huge deal? It isn't. No difference at all.

>> No.13825573

>>13825490
The 2x toggle is a lot better than before, you now don't need to avoid the window after pressing it which saves several seconds, you add up all the time it can save you and its a nice quality of life upgrade for a map we have to spam thousands of times, sorry we're not all as bitter as you.

>>13825410
Soon you'll be doing it with 2 units, a max archer and your prince. I would say the karma event was high level and I'd expect more along those lines difficulty wise.

>> No.13825577

>>13825573
>bitter for pointing out bullshit
If anything you're the negative and bitter one for assuming others are bitter for giving an explanation. Quite the arrogant projection.

>> No.13825593

>>13825490
>>13825577
Wow dude, chill out.
You don't seem to think the 2x toggle means anything, good for you. No need to attack people who think otherwise.

>>13825573
Maxed Soma doesn't seem to be enough on her own, but I recently aquired Spica, so I guess 2 unit farming for me soon enough.

>> No.13825597

>>13825593
How's that attacking? Point to me where >>13825490 is an attack. It's a perfectly reasoanble post.

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>>13825577
I'm sorry I love the new 2x toggle, also have some Spica since we're getting offtrack.

>> No.13825603

>one person starts flaming another
>no one blinks an eye
>person getting flamed that posts a logical opinion
>gets flamed
Goes to show you lot only care about who dis/agrees with who rather than the actual content and intent of each post.

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>>13825603
Butthurt status:
Mad Saint Fedora

>> No.13825628

>>13825626
>all you can do is spam reddit memes
i know who i'd side with.

>> No.13825635 [DELETED] 

>>13825628
yourself anon?

>> No.13825641

>>13825635
>not siding with yourself
what are you a cuck?

>memes
>/jp/
yeah a cuck for sure.

>> No.13825662 [DELETED] 

>>13825641
Ok, whatever.

Back on topic, do weekend Awakening Fairy missions actually require awakened units to complete? I saw a few videos, but every unit screen is full of those blue arrows.

>> No.13825664

>>13825662
Why would you even quote a post if you don't reply to it? No wonder it's shit-post hour here--you lot intentionally instigate it.

>> No.13825685
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Let's discuss more important things, like who's your Aigis waifu?

>> No.13825718

>>13825662
The map restriction only lets you use awakened units.

>> No.13825740

>>13825685
Stop the shit-posting already.

>> No.13825769

>>13825740
Fuck off to /u/.

>>13825685
Kanon

>> No.13825776

>>13825769
>go to yuri
that doesn't even make sense. why does /jp/ love shitposting so much?

>> No.13825904

here are a couple of questions. on DMM
i mincosted a gold.
and i still got a dupe. what should i do with it ?
what should i do with any dupe gold that i dont want?

i was trying to awaken a character.
what are the materials that i need to give .
i have the needed silvers.
and can put them in.
but when its the fairy i cant click on the fairy, whats that supposed to mean.
also it seems that i can use the gold as fodder in awakening.
what else should i know about awakening

>> No.13825966

>>13825718
Whelp. I actually didn't bother to read the description but it doesn't matter anyway I guess. As I feared I need to spam DC dialy.

>>13825904
You need max lvled and aff cleared unit.
Units used as awakening crap need to be either CC'd silver or gold.
You need awakening fairy who is posiible to get either for 100 DC in Trading Post or from dialy quests that, well, requires already awakened units to engage.
You also are requred to have 2 awakening orbs, which drop from those 90 charisma dialy quests. Specific orbs drop on specific days so ether be wary of that or just farm 2 of everything as I did.
In the end you also need to throw in about 250000 gold. Not sure if its exactly this much, but should be something around it.

>> No.13825998

>>13825966
what about that fairy.
i have a couple of them.
i cant for some reason choose any. they are all shadowed out

>> No.13826001

>>13825998
Are they locked?

>> No.13826006

>>13825966
>or from daily quests that, well, requires already awakened units to engage
That fairy is for skill awakening, can be done only after you've awakened the unit with the fairy form trading post and maxed out the skill etc.
If I remember right, 200k to awaken gold, 250k plat, 300k black. The amount of awakening orbs needed also depends on rarity, gold - 1, plat- 2, black - 3

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>>13826006
Thanks for correcting that out, I have awakened only few plat unit so far.

>>13825998
You need the 覚醒の聖霊 double check if you are using the right one

>> No.13826091

>>13826006
whats skill awakening?

>> No.13826132

>>13826091
Upgrade your skill to bullshit level

>> No.13826169

>>13826132
you just made me even more curious.
explain a bit before i waste the fairies ive got

>> No.13826202

>>13826169
Different unit has different skill, check the wiki yourself and pick which you want.

>> No.13826260

>>13826202
i cant find anything in the wiki about this.

>> No.13826278

>>13826091
Some units can get a new skill when max skilled and awoken if you have the right materials. There's usually a tradeoff though, so it's not always worth it. It also requires you to beat a map where you can only use awoken units+prince

>> No.13826288

>>13826260
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%A5%B9%A5%AD%A5%EB%B3%D0%C0%C3%2F%B1%F3%B5%F7%CE%A5%B7%BF
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%A5%B9%A5%AD%A5%EB%B3%D0%C0%C3%2F%B6%E1%C0%DC%B7%BF#unit_mage_armor

>> No.13826466

>>13825998
You need the fairy from the trade post 100 crystals.
You sure you got the right one?

>> No.13827731

Have any of the LN Volumes ever actually been scanned? I've tried to find searching things like "千年戦争アイギス 月下の花嫁 (ファミ通文庫) ダウンロード",
"千年戦争アイギス 月下の花嫁 (ファミ通文庫) vol 1", and "千年戦争アイギス vol 1" but couldn't find anything. All I could find was a preview.

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Nendoroid

>> No.13828296

Holy shit, i really rushed my character in MWA, leveled almost 20 levels in one week was 45 at the time and CC'd like 5 units and now i'm able to clear all the maps from the event, no 3 star them though but i might have a hope, how hard is to 3 star from just clearing them?

>> No.13828325

>>13828296
Took me 10 days to get a team ready that could 3 star the Karma event's last map, I think I was at around level 102 since I remember getting pissed that I didn't know about the stamina refill at 101. I used the exp bonus though.

>> No.13829262

I just started Aigis. I was reading the beginner's faq and it says not to use silver units. Well, I used some but it was just the male silver units. Are they useful anyway? They were silvers I was never going to use anyway

Also I rolled a platinum with the starting crystals, lucky me.

>> No.13829282

>>13829262
Yes, male units count. There are male-only maps, and you can always use male silvers as CC material.

>> No.13829286

>>13829262
You need silvers to Class Evolve (CC) units, which is something you do once a unit reaches max level so you get bonuses (depends on class), their skill may become more powerful (mostly in case of gold and higher rarity) and most importantly their level goes back to 1 but they keep all their stats, while their deployment cost increases by 3 (or 5 in case of mages).
For golds and silvers its 1 silver of the same class + 2 irons + a fairy of same rarity. Plats and blacks on the other hand require 3 silvers of specific classes plus a fairy of same rarity.

Because of how limited a resource they are, it's recommended to hold onto all you get because the only way to get more is to roll the gacha or farm some event maps if the event even has farmable silvers of the class you need and you already have the units needed to farm it, which means at least few CC'd ones.

>> No.13829288

>>13829262
Silvers are fodder that you use to CC golds/plats/blacks. You need 3 silver units to CC 1 plat/black and at least 6 silvers to awaken 1 unit, so its very stupid to waste them on something else.

>> No.13829294

>>13829262
If your plat was a rogue, that's unfortunately not lucky, since you get a free plat rogue at level 30.

Anything else though, great. Especially if it was an archer or princess.

>> No.13829318

>>13825685
cecily was the first to bully my princely penis so I guess that means she's the one in charge

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>>13829282
>>13829286
>>13829288
>>13829294
I think I used maybe half a dozen of the silvers? I got to the fortress level and received most of the giveaway silvers. Is this worth keeping? Will be a bummer to start again tomorrow though.

>> No.13829375

>>13829365
I would keep it just because of Sherry, however, if your feeling lucky, try rerolling a bit more to get a black or something.

>> No.13829379

>>13829365
Princess is a damn good class, so that's one thing worth keeping the profile for.

And the silver-wasting is less harmful now that we do have events happening. Keep playing I'd say.

>> No.13829390

>>13829365
It's kinda borderline. It's better than a restart where you don't reroll till you get another good starting roll that's for sure.

In terms of the silvers I'd look at it this way. The most reliable way to get them later on will be to run a normal story map for gold then use the gold gatcha. Doing that you'll wind up with about 1 silver per 20-25 runs. Some events have notably quicker gathering rates than this.

Personally I'd say it's not the end of the world. worst case it's about a week of spending all your gold on gatcha rolls to get them back.

>> No.13829401

>>13829365
Sherry is pretty good. She is a princess so she ignores enemy armor and has magic resistance. They can't be CC'd, but their stats are around the same level a CC'd unit's would.

Losing silvers is probably going to cripple you horribly at some point. How fucked you are depends on which events we'll be getting. The devs don't seem to intend to give nutaku all events (we've been skipping them pretty liberally thus far) so it's possible we won't be getting events that can help you recover in which case your options will be blowing real money for gacha or blowing all your in-game money on gacha and losing weeks of progress at the mercy of a very fickle RNG.

>> No.13829407

>>13829365
I've been meaning to ask this, do you guys just restart by making a new account?

>> No.13829430

>>13829407
https://www.nutaku.net/login/?url=/profile/delete/

Then remake it with the same email.

That's what I found fastest assuming I was sure I wouldn't want the account again anyway.

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>>13829430
I now feel dumb for having made over 10 e-mails(And I didnt even get a black in any of those)

>> No.13829478

>>13829444
I think the best method might be to keep two and rotate as needed so you always keep the best one. Certainly not having to make emails makes rerolling for a black much less painful.

>> No.13829723

>Run Phalanx 2
>Get no drops at all
Just as I thought getting one non-gold drop was bad. Didn't even know this was possible.

>> No.13829757

Does the time has anything to do with the summons or something? I just got 2 mehlis and 2 Themis without ever getting them before.

>> No.13829765

>>13829757
Just got another Mehlis and Themis.

>> No.13829768

>>13829757
Sometimes I suspect that but I try not to let a small sample size fool me. Having too much free time, I actually redo dummy accounts just to hear a plat/black's summon se. All the blacks I got were summoned between 8 and 9, even the one I have in my main.

>> No.13829769

>>13829757
>>13829765
That's what people mean when they say the RNG gets "stuck".

>> No.13829781

>>13829769
Wish it got stuck on my main, always wanted a princess and mehlis on the main.

>> No.13829787

>>13829781
I've been wanting a Mehlis too, had her in my old account and she was my favorite unit there. On a different note, I wish we get Odette's event next.

>> No.13830233

Hmm, tough question: I need some cheap soldiers for rush maps like spirit resque H. Should I grind Phyllis from event map, grind Crave, or just don't bother with either and grind some better units while waiting for desert story mission expansion?

>> No.13830237

>>13830233
Min cost bronze soldier

>> No.13830239

>>13829318
aren't Soma and Alissa everyone's firsts?

>> No.13830244

>>13830237
I have 2 of them at 40. Not enough firepower, and you need micromanage them. Mincosted CCed Phyllis looks like much better option, but she sucks so much compared to DMMs soldiers that it feels waste of resoucres to mincost her.

>> No.13830262

>>13830244
>but she sucks so much compared to DMMs soldiers
wat

>> No.13830272

>>13830262
Gustaf, Asar, and then all these soldiers of higher rarity.

>> No.13830282

why is the swordmaster class so fucking great

>> No.13830288

>>13830282
inb4 black swordmaster with whole map nuke skill.

>> No.13830289

>>13830288
more like continuous nuking for 15 seconds

>> No.13830292

>>13830282
I've played around with plat from previous event, and she didn't seem good.

>> No.13830304

>>13830292
she does a pretty good job in this event

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26770233

>> No.13830425

>>13830292
She does an extra x3 damage to ground units with her skill.

The opposite of Sandra who gets a massive boost against air units. Neither of them have a max number hit so it's literally everything in their range.

>> No.13830428

>>13830244

If you also have 2 min cost Lv40 bronze archers, then you're in a position to do Spirit Rescue H. Yes you still need to micromanage.

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>>13824973
>>13825262
lesse.
I've been playing Aigis quite sporadically, sometimes playing it a load, other times hardly at all.
Frequently the game wouldn't load, I'd just get the Event info and a white screen, and having to repeatedly open and close the browser(which could go on for quite a while) to get it to work tended to kill my enthusiasm sometimes.

I beat Castle Retake early into the Vampire Bride Event, but decide to forego clearing the event to concentrate on CC-ing units instead(I only had 1 when I beat CR).
I got enough of them to beat Gold Armor H, then slowed down again.
My interest's modest right now, and I don't usually have trouble getting it to load now. Some days I'll use all my stamina repeatedly clearing Dragon Hunting, other days I'll just play it once or twice.
I don't generally use guides unless I'm stuck, and then it's usually only when I want more stars.

I don't tend to go in for power-levelling or grinding much in games, I'm usually content wih moderately powerful characters & units.

>> No.13830585

>>13830519
If you have a team of lvl 30-50 cc'd units you can comfortably clear enough maps to get your cg collection, and used the saved up crystals to blow on the goddess and get more cgs.

That's pretty much what I've been doing for the past few months.

>> No.13830678

>>13825308
do you mean the 2nd last mission of the Vampire Bride Event, or the current one?
If you mean Fairy Vilage, here's a video of someone doing it with fairly low-level,non cc-ed units.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23291172

>> No.13830693

>>13830272
Gustaf is literally fucking trash.
Asal is literally just a brown Phyllis.
Did you even bother looking at their stats? Or did you just see them and assume they must way stronger?

>> No.13830708

>>13830693
Gustaf has better stats, and awesome skill. He's actually useful as fighting unit.

>> No.13830726

>>13830708
Even if you are using him, he shouldn't even be deployed long enough for his skill to get ready. And unlike Dorothy, he's taking 3 dicks at once so if he dies he's going to stay dead phoenix or not.

>> No.13830744

>>13830708
You know his skill has a 85 second wait time and ~85-90 second cooldown right? Phyllis / Asal could have given you 15 points before his skill is even ready. His HP is higher than normal, but he has a hidden attack speed debuff which nukes his DPS. And when you consider in Affection/Trust Bonuses, hes actually less tanky than Phyllis / Asal, so he can't even do his job of tanking correctly.

>> No.13831022

so what is that Angelic Saga game that's coming up? Is it any good?

>> No.13831027

>>13831022
It's shit like most DMM games

>> No.13831046

>>13831022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=404&v=ZkfxHjirfU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=494&v=B5RiI0IYyDM
From these vids it looks like Yugioh meets LoV. Reserve judgement till you try it I guess.

>> No.13831079

>>13831046
At the very least it's nice to have more games that aren't a mindless click-result a-la Valks.

>> No.13831080
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>>13830244
>>13830272
These are my soldiers listed in terms of usefulness, Aria and Phylis are great soldiers and often get deployed together,tempted to feed Phylis another copy to get her abilty even faster.

Crave still needs work in trust and mincosting (not CC)but is a decent cheap male soldier used in male only and spirit rush.

Katie is mostly useless but is used in the spirit rush H, though I only use Aria's and Phylis ability there since they're first out (and even then it's not needed). Julian may get more use when he's maxed but he'd only be taking Katies place, still he'll be more useful thanks to male only maps.

>> No.13831105

>>13831080
Objectively, Aria > Katie = Julian > Phyllis > Crave.

Julian is easier to cost reduce but Katie has a useful awakening ability and skill awakening.

>> No.13831153

So, I just 4M'd Titanne and Kai. The loli boob jobs... they do nothing!

I consider myself fairly resistant to loli H artwork, but I discovered I cannot tolerate loli H voicework. As Titanne's scene started out, I dreaded the cliche "muzu muzu" line and it indeed came and scarred me. Kai wasn't quite so bad but still jarring.

>> No.13831159

>>13831105
katie is good but she can be great if they can just fucking let us mincost her to 10 already. its amazing how much 2 extra cost in the beginning can sometimes fuck you up.

>> No.13831165

>>13831153
I felt pretty bad for Titanne, that was pretty much rape. Still fapworthy, but still.

>> No.13831167

>>13831105
That just doesn't translate into whats useful though, Katie just isn't as good as my others, she's more like a cheap, weak heavy armour rather than a soldier, anywhere I can put them the other soldiers will do a better job and be faster at it.

>> No.13831261

>>13831167
Phyllis will not get you ahead in cost faster than Katie. I understand you're talking about how effective they are in blocking rushes, but outside of spirit rescue and a few of the challenge missions, that won't really matter, and Crave will be useless.

>> No.13831313

>>13831167
Soldier's main job is to give you unit point while buying you enough time to get your actually good units down. What makes Katie and Aria good is their skill which gives you more UP than they costs. Ability to kill things is less important than ability to get your mages and healers out quickly.

>> No.13831332

>>13829723
I am in the same boat man, I think everyone's just fucked until they can clear war of magic, but maxing out Belinda takes a bunch of platinum fairies

Also, anyone has any hunch on the next event?

>> No.13831338

Does Leda stack with other drop skills?

>> No.13831340

>>13831332
Yeah no kidding. I wonder what I'd need to do if I have a Despara. Surely the requirements for War of Magic would be quite different. Juice up Despara and some other witch?

>> No.13831342

>>13831261
Its a 5 point difference in general due to the speed of Phylis's ability compared to Katie/Aria and with Phylis and Aria I've had 0 problems with UP.

With Aria and Katie I've had problems deploying Katie herself as theres sometimes that one goblin that can get past, this could be solved by using another unit like a archer but that defeats the point of the discussion in using soldiers.

>> No.13831347

so how am I supposed to get rowanna within 2 days if I started like 2 days ago or something

>> No.13831356

>>13831347
You don't. Get your grind on in preparation for the next event.

>> No.13831362

>>13831332
I suspect they'll finally bring out that monk event.

>> No.13831364

>>13831347
she's a trash unit anyways so you're not missing out on much

>> No.13831371

>>13831342
That's nice. Your hypothetical scenario doesn't mean Katie isn't better overall.

>> No.13831379

>>13831356
so I'm just fucked forever? because the best girls like Aria and Valerie are from pretty old events and still aren't available, at least according to the english wiki. and rowanna is pretty alright herself.

>> No.13831386

>>13831379
>Valerie
>Girl

>> No.13831392

>>13831386
Maribel, my mistake. I was looking at the page for the relevant event and blew it.

>> No.13831398

>>13831392
Maribel isn't that useful, though she's better than Rowanna at least. Aria and Anya are the only real things you're missing.

>> No.13831404

>>13831386
Valerie can pull it off

>> No.13831410

>>13831379
None of the past units are a must-have to clear things. They are nice, sure, but you can do it without them.

Git ye grind on.

>> No.13831411

>>13831398
yeah but she's like the third or fourth cutest girl in the game
and that's what's really important

>> No.13831428

>>13831411
In that case, git ye grind on and wait for a revival event in a year or so.

>> No.13831431

>>13831379
Out of the events you've missed thus far Karma, Aria and Anya are powerful units, but most event units are very situational so you aren't missing that much. Your tastes are a different matter though.
Still, there are events that give you a chance to get some event units you've missed. I don't know when they will be coming to nutaku though, as we're still jumping around and playing catch up with the DMM version.

>> No.13831437

>>13831411
her sex scenes are boring though
then again, I only liked Anya's, Calliope's, Cloris' and Daniela's scenes so far

>> No.13831516

>>13831431
Bellinda is pretty important too. If you don't have her, you either need to mincost and CC like 3 silver witches, or have Despara to beat Magic war.

>> No.13831737

>>13831404
Yeah no joke. When I was new to the game I thought he was a girl.

100% him first anyway. Just incase.

>> No.13831770

is Elf boy here's summon rate increased by the event? I just got him out of a 2000G gacha, and I wondered if it's a coincidence or not, given the circumstances.

>> No.13831775 [DELETED] 

>>13831770
shit,forgot my picture.

>> No.13831781

>>13831770
2k gacha always has the same rates

>> No.13831782
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>>13831770
>>13831775
oops

>> No.13831912

>>13831770
>>13831782
No. The reason you're only just now seeing him is because he wasn't in the game at all before now.

>> No.13832799

Doing the monday awakening, following this http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24835836 it works perfectly until Nanaly appears.

Something bizarre here, Nanaly will NOT focus the tank I put down there, but rather she focuses the healer next to it, killing her very quickly and causing everything to fall apart.

whats up with that?

>> No.13832864

>>13832799
You are putting down the third healer after the tank latches on to Nanaly right?

The last unit you placed on the map will be the first to be attacked, so if you are placing the healer down before Nunaly reaches the tank, she'll target your healer instead and fuck shit up.

>> No.13832886

>>13832864
Ah.

I wasn't putting the third healer down at all, since my two tanks and the second healer are significantly stronger than a silver, but I was placing the tank first then the healer.

I thought that last unit placed thing was only for the liches.

>> No.13832907

>>13832886
Enemy long range units will always target the last unit placed.

Panicking and quickly placing units in an attempt to clear things up usually ends up in team getting massacred.

>> No.13832957

>>13823707
>>13824285

Thanks for the advice - just managed to 2 star it after CCing Witch Cloris.

Fucking archers, almost 3 starred it.

>> No.13833028
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And with the release of Aigis Vol. 3, we now have Sybilla's little sister, Patel. Info courtesy of ULMF forums Petite Soeur.

Class: Royal Guard
Block #: 2; Cost: 21 (Mincost)
Skill: Magic Spear Gáe Bulg (魔槍ゲイボルグ):(Adds Magical Attack, and Instant Death Effect)

>> No.13833033
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>>13833028
And of course, here's more of the LN illustrator's artwork.

>> No.13833052

>>13833033
Also, Sybilla is apparently the Prince's cousin, at least in the novels.

>> No.13833056

Peropero seduction only loads on my windows 7 PC. It's weird and I don't get it.

>> No.13833066

>>13833052
So prince is most talentless in his bloodline?

>> No.13833075

>>13833066
Maybe he'd be stronger if he got one of those legendary weapons too.

>> No.13833079

>>13833066
Depends a little on what you're trying to do but I don't think so.

He's a toss up with some of the more broken blacks but he's clearly one of the best units in the game at 100+.

Hell I'd trade my Nanaly for a 2nd prince if the prince was cute and she's hardly a weak black.

>> No.13833081

>>13833066
>>13833075
Anna is his legendary weapon.

She allows him to either regenerate over time, pierce defense, block an extra unit, or resist magic better.

>> No.13833108

>>13833028
Her face could be cuter, something's off about it.

>> No.13833118

>>13833108
Sharp edges on her face. Looks rather elfish. The LN one looks a lot better, but she ends up looking handsome rather than pretty.

>> No.13833165

>>13833118
I think it's partly because her clothing cover part of her face weirdly.

>> No.13833807

>>13833052
It sounds like the LN writer is taking a lot of creative liberties with it.

>> No.13834102

>>13833108
Design is nice but her face really looks like shit.
You'd figure they'd pick a better artist for the sister of one of the most popular characters.

>> No.13834167

Just got Bashira - should I bother with Spica then, or just go straight to Saki?

>> No.13834172

>>13834167
You know how people always say you need at least two good archers and Saki is likely to stay in the shop far longer than Spica based off DMM?

That.

>> No.13834192

>>13834167
I have Bashira and Spica but I use Spica way more.

>> No.13834220

Fledgling Pirate Monica - Demon Crystals here I come!

>> No.13834225

>0 plat armors again
Fuck this honestly, when are we getting higher tier dailies?
All my units are 50CCed and in their forties and more, I really don't feel like raising them regular way, but I get no armors for 3 weeks now

>> No.13834233

>>13834225
As people have said time and again higher level dailies won't help you get more exp armors unless you burn SCs.

Yes, if you rely on nothing but a once a week daily to level your stuff to max will take quite some time. This is also true on DMM (more so actually).

>> No.13834244

>>13834225
What you should want is the event milestones reward.

>> No.13834270

>>13834225
Just accept it.

I just leveled a black from 40 to 80 with zero platinum armors, and now I'm going to have to spend another 300k for awakening once I get the fairy.

>> No.13834438

>>13834225
Suck it up princess.

>> No.13834482

>>13830304
what's with the 3 glowing weirdos who shop up at the start, then bugger off?
They look kind of interesting.

>> No.13834490

>>13834482
They show up again for you to fight around the end. It's Mel, Gianna and the event girl.

>> No.13834496
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>first monday H
>plat armour
>first monday H last week
>plat armour
>third monday H last week
>another plat armour
Gimme gimme gimme. Despara ain't going to post-CC max level without them.

>> No.13834588

Goddammit i was so close, 18 stars in the event and just 2 maps left to 3 star but i can't do it, and those maps cost too much stamina for me to handle.

Now i will have a dirty peasant Rowanna with only -2 unit cost, how bad is that?

>> No.13834598

>>13834588
Feed aigis some of those tasty SCs.

>> No.13834635

>>13834588
I doubt you'll even use her anyway.

>> No.13834657

>>13834598
Already did, 3 fucking times, aigis likes to see me suffer.

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Post 'em. Going to buy a few premium rolls whenever there's an event with nice units (current one sucks, previous wasn't particularly interesting either)

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>>13825685
>waifu

>> No.13834818

For grinding cards quickly on LoV at the moment, should I be getting the level 8 fodder from Time Corridor or just trying to nab level 1 fodder from quest 1? Feeding to same element cards of course. Just wondering about the differences in stamina costs and if there's a breakpoint.

>>13834172
How much longer is Spica likely to stay in the trading post? I'm sitting at 207 crystals, but wanted to nab Saki since I have Nanaly, Bashira, and Victoria. Maybe Spica's still worth getting, I dunno.

>> No.13834843

>>13834818
Is gold an issue for you? I don't know which is better but gold combine cost is based on the card your combining into level and number of cards. i.e. the bigger the cards the less gold.

>> No.13834847

>>13834588
shouldn't you be able to get her down to -3 cost if you only had to 3 star 2 missions?
Would 2-star-ing those last 2 missions be viable?

>> No.13834849

>>13834843
Not really, I'm getting more from exploration grinding than I'm able to use.

>> No.13834882

>>13834818
It is more efficient to get level 1 fodders than event fodders, but it is MUCH more gold efficient to get the event fodders. The ratios are 0.333 for event maps and 0.444 for Q1 (assuming all matching element; on single matching element it's the same 0.333 - i.e. if you feed wind and fire fodders to the same fire card)

The best regular maps come to is 0.259 on Q21-2.

>> No.13834908

>>13834882
Oh damn, that's really informative. Much appreciated. I'll probably farm the level 1 fodders then.

>> No.13834911

>>13834804
Is that like the touhou favorite sorting thing but for aigis? link?

>> No.13835409

>>13834908

Generally I pump units up to Lv 10~20 with Lv1 fodders then switch to Lv8 fodders. Do NOT underestimate the gold cost of grinding with only Lv1 fodder. Expeditions can quickly eat your gold.

>> No.13835459

From Petite Soeur
>According to WankoP in the Character Profile, he views these characters as people rather than as cards, so he has no intention of implementing a 10-consecutive summon feature like other social games; he wants players to draw them one at a time.

Fuck.

>> No.13835483

>>13835459
I guess we're going to have to stick to using click macros.

>> No.13835717

>>13834233
>As people have said time and again higher level dailies won't help you get more exp armors unless you burn SCs.

And as we keep saying, that's bullshit, extreme tier gives significantly more plats per stam.

>> No.13835811

>>13834911
It's on the first stages, need to change the images with the render ones:

http://aigissorter.tumblr.com/

>> No.13835904

>>13835717
Mind if I ask for a source on that? Like it's worth running anyway if you time a level up in there just for the extra gold but still.

>> No.13835914

>>13835811
Nice, thanks

>> No.13835931

>>13835717
This was proven to be bullshit. Extreme gives far less per stam you can actually use.

>> No.13835974

>>13835931
No it wasn't. It clearly has better rates, it just doesn't divide evenly. That doesn't make the rates worse.

>> No.13835979

>>13835974
> it just doesn't divide evenly
Oh, so you didn't even look at numbers. Nice shitposting.

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>>13834818
I make no promises on Nutaku. Having said that pic related is the trading post on DMM right now so... I wouldn't worry about it.

In terms of Spica still being worth getting it's a little bit of a toss up. She does have the best sustained damage but she might be a bit niche considering you have the other 3 already. Near as i can tell Victoria also beats her in 90% of situations.

>> No.13836030

>>13835979
It's 20% on extreme and 15% on hard. Extreme costs 80/3, hard costs 60/3.

>> No.13836038

>>13835997
Spica starts at lower cost, and is easier to cost reduce. If you have Olivier she can reach 11 cost.

>> No.13836047

>>13835997
Oh, nice. I decided to grab Spica just because she'll be rotated first then. I might not be able to find much of a use for her, but hopefully I don't regret it.

>>13836038
Wait, do people actually buy 2 of Spica just to have her at a lower cost?

>> No.13836055

>>13836047
I did. The 2nd one is a guaranteed cost reduce, and I use her almost everywhere, so it's almost like having a permanent +1 cost.

>> No.13836065

>>13836055
Damn, you must have had crystals left over from before the rotation then, right?

I might spring for getting 2 Spica's, hopefully I don't miss out on getting a Saki or two, though. With how shit my luck's been on Thursday H all along, I might not make it.

>> No.13836087

>>13836038
>>13836055
That's a fair point, though I feel it might fail to make up for her ability being so much worse outside of perhaps some rushes.

>> No.13836197

>>13836065
I'm on DMM.

>>13836087
Her awakening ability is generally much better though, and her skill is easy to skill up, so the boost at max skill is pretty great.

>> No.13836208

Gotten pretty lucky, 3 plat armor drops today so far 2 of them back to back

>> No.13836263

>>13835717
Nigga, do you even know the difference between Extreme Tier and God Tier?

Charisma regenerates 20 per hour, and Stamina 1 per hour. So Extreme (80/3) is in fact worse than Senior unless you use an SC to restore Charisma, because you end up with a bunch of Stamina but no Charisma.

It's false for God-Tier since at 80/6 you're actually okay on Charisma. Apparently some people claim the drop rate is only 15%x2 instead of 20%x2 though (since no data-mines to give an exact percentage). If that's true then God-Tier is basically just Senior-Tier with better Charisma, but less Gold.

>> No.13836320

Angelic Saga drops tomorrow, right? It looks pretty fun, but does anyone from DMM have an opinion to share?

>>13836197
Ah, gotcha. So does the platinum unit in trading post only cycle between Spica and Chydis?

>> No.13836355

>>13836320
>Ah, gotcha. So does the platinum unit in trading post only cycle between Spica and Chydis?

Nope, there's a few others.

>> No.13836358

>>13836263
That's nice, but extreme still has better rates.

>> No.13836366

>>13836320
Nah, there's a pool of units and a small % of them rotate in and out. Some units are on there for longer than others.

Say there's a pool of 50 units, there'll be say 5 up at a time from that pool.

>> No.13836378

>>13836366
>>13836355
Ah, thanks. Made me go and check the pool, and that sailor girl (Biera?) seems kinda cool.

Apparently several of the trading post units are rewards from gold rushes, that's pretty cool. Sounds like a convenient way to get a second Spica.

Though, I doubt Nutaku will ever get a gold rush, let alone 3.

>> No.13836396

>>13836378
You get a free Viera at rank 50 on DMM.

>> No.13836544

>>13836358
Not if you calculate them properly, for whole day instead abstract spherical non-existent "per 1 unit" in vacuum.

>> No.13836553

>>13836378
I've never found any use for my free Viera on DMM.

>> No.13836633

>>13836544
Well you can save charisma and do a few ex runs(4-8 depending on level) and the rest hard tier.

On DMM I don't bother though since I'm running into way more trouble with gold than with plat armors and I like to put as much charisma towards leveling as possible.

>> No.13836965
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ugh, bloody RNG.
I was trying to squeeze another Bernard out of the Event before it ends for class-changing purposes, but the bloody thing isn't giving me him.
Was the Silver drop-rate really this shit in the event? I've burned through a fair few sacred crystals retrying the map(which I've got to admit probably has more to do with my stubborness than my need to CC units at this point.

>> No.13836979

>>13836965
Through whole event I've got 2 daniellas and 1 dorca. Couldn't get even single Valerie or Bernard.

>> No.13837032

>>13836965
>>13836979
Yeah, this event is really shit for actual drops but it gave me nearly 100 crystals so far, so I can't complain

>> No.13837119

>>13836979
I was able to get one valerie, 3 Danielas',, and 1 maybe 2 dorcas'

Drop rates probably increase the tougher the mission. Valelrie was a pain to get despite trying to farm him, but Dorca and Daniela and even Phyliss I got much easier and I wasn't even trying.

>> No.13837138

>>13836979
Yep. This event is total aids. Glad I stopped farming it after a few days. 3* everything, got most drops, quickly realised the drops are absolutely abysmal. Dailies+DH+Phalanx 2 is far better than this.

>> No.13837213

>>13836544
You're the one in the "per 1 day" vacuum.

>> No.13837348

>>13836965
I did Valerie's map about 26 times? Only got 3 of him so I guess the drop is around 1/9 chance for that map

>> No.13837363

>>13809930
So is there an actual way to get the limited grills without spending dosh? 200 consecutive wins to get the event ticket and I've only gone far enough to get the limited win card and it has never reset; does the ticker reset at 200 wins or are free user damned? I mean fuck you get 200 wins and you get 1 ticket to get dicked by all the non limited cards in the pool.

>> No.13837364

>>13836965
Did Cecily's map for the 2 weeks sans Thursdays, and only got 1. Got 2 Eunices though.

>> No.13837368

>>13837363
sorry for being confusing: I am referring to the peropero event

>> No.13837375

>>13837363
It doesn't reset. 200 wins and that's it.
If you wanted to get the reward, you could've spammed rank 2/3 battles until 200, before going to rank 1s for tickets.

>> No.13837378

>>13836208
>2 of them back to back
>15% each
>0.15 * 0.15 = 0.0225

i haven't gotten one for 2 months now

>> No.13837393

>>13836965
got a valerie both times i did grand invation (yes.. i fucked up once...) and were able to mincost a cecily (only one missed)

>> No.13837399

>>13837378
It's a 2.25% chance if you only do two runs, but without crystals in theory you can manage, what, 12 runs per week?

>> No.13837406

>>13837378
>>13837399
Yeah, I think it was 3 in 8 or 9 runs. Also I got 1 the previous week but none the 2 weeks before so seem I am keeping that 1 a week average I guess lol.

>>13837378
Hopefully you get some soon

>>13837363
as >>13837375 said you could do 200 rank 3 or higher rounds and get the ticket, though unless you have a spree now you will need to use puddings.

For the ones in the boxes, you just need to farm tickets, and as long as you had a decent win rate against rank 1's you should have been able to fully empty a box of each type. I've emptied 2 plat boxes and will prob get 3 before event is over.

>> No.13837430

>>13837406

also, new thread

>>13837427

>> No.13837438

>>13837430
Not really necessary till page 10, but ok.

>> No.13837439

>>13837438
Eh, I've just done page 8+, wasn't getting complaints so figured was fine

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