What's the difference between an otaku, a NEET, and a hikikomori?

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Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:50:48 2015 No.13768904 [Reply] [Original]

What's the difference between an otaku, a NEET, and a hikikomori?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:55:07 2015 No.13768920 Otaku are nerds. NEETs are Not in Employment, Education, or Training. Hikkikomori have agoraphobia and probably paranoia and are thus(or is a result of their prolonged time as) shut ins.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:55:24 2015 No.13768921
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NEET= doesnt work nor wants to work
Otaku= really loves/collect a thing
Hikikomori= doesnt leave his home because is afraid/dont want/ has psychological problems
3 together=me
Dont really know why i spoofed. Guess im feeling good today.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:57:36 2015 No.13768931

Otaku: A person with weird obsessive interests. It's mostly used for people into mnag and anime but there are other otaku, like train otaku or military otaku.

A NEET is someone "Not in Education, Employment or Training" They have no job and are not in school.
Hikkikomori is a social hermit who avoids going outside or meeting other.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:58:03 2015 No.13768934 Who otaku nerd hikkikomori here? almost 10 years now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:00:00 2015 No.13768941 Otaku: Will put his dick in your mouth. NEET: Will clean the semen. Hikkikomori: Some Twilight shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:00:24 2015 No.13768942 Being called an otaku is a bad thing, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:04:00 2015 No.13768953 File: 9 KB, 189x267, Konata and Kagami Funny.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13768942 Not really, its basically Japanese to our American "Nerd".

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:11:50 2015 No.13768982 What is the difference between a 'shut in' and a 'Hikkikomori'? What am I if I half-willingly attend college, but avoid leaving the house whenever possible?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:12:04 2015 No.13768983 >>13768931 Correction: otaku is a massively derogatory term used exclusively for anime and manga, and it is much more severe than "weird obsessive interests." The normal term is maniac.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:26:33 2015 No.13769034 [DELETED]

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>>13768982
>What am I if I half-willingly attend college, but avoid leaving the house whenever possible?
Not a hikikomori. You might be otaku though. Sdoctor as soon as possible.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:28:09 2015 No.13769041
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>>13768982
>What am I if I half-willingly attend college, but avoid leaving the house whenever possible?
Not a hikikomori. You might be otaku though. See doctor as soon as possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:29:15 2015 No.13769049 File: 117 KB, 655x368, mLArn9A3_97475c_f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm an educated idler.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:32:24 2015 No.13769068 Can non Japanese be otaku?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:33:12 2015 No.13769070 >>13768921 me too, /jp/sie, me too. not a good feel

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 20:59:24 2015 No.13769151 File: 28 KB, 292x227, wahh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13768904 Watch Welcome to the NHK and you'll know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:10:14 2015 No.13769190 Would someone still be considered a hikkikomri if they had a big yard surrounded by a tall wall and went outside in it but never went outside the wall?

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:14:51 2015 No.13769208

>>13769190
Youre still inside your home, so it counts.
>>13769070
Last person that i talked that wasnt my family or the psychologist was in 2001 i think, it was a girl who jumped the fence to get a ball that fell into my yard. Also as soon as i open the front door i almost faint. yeah its not a good feel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:19:56 2015 No.13769220 >>13768983 The normal term is fan, as in short for fanatic, it is also no longer dergogatory. It has the same thing going for it now as "nerd" does in the states.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:21:07 2015 No.13769221 >>13769190 yes, hikiks can go outside and to social gatherings, they just do it very rarely and tend to be socially inept

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 21:29:54 2015 No.13769263 The unholy trinity

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 03:54:58 2015 No.13771080 File: 65 KB, 737x626, 1435036876119.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13769070 Me too anon. Lets embrace oblivion together.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 04:57:05 2015 No.13771277 NEETs are the worst. Otaku can be well employed or in school, Hikkis can still work online, Freeters still can still take it easy most of the time. NEETs are just worthless parasite normalfags.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 05:01:49 2015 No.13771289 >>13771277 >NEETs are just worthless parasite True enough. >normalfags. ... what the fuck? Like, really? Does this word even mean fucking anything anymore?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 05:06:29 2015 No.13771307 >>13771289 Clearly no.After all, what is the point of having a language other than to continually destroy the meaning of perfectly funtional words

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 05:08:06 2015 No.13771317

>>13768904
Otaku are obsessed with a hobby, the term doesn't imply them being shut in or unemployed.

NEETs by definition don't work, train or study. The term doesn't imply them being obsessed with a hobby or being a shut in.

Hikikomori is a term to describe shut ins. The term doesn't implying being obsessed with a hobby or being NEETs (they can work from home somehow).

Otaku often goes alone despite what you think, since they need money to afford their shit and need to go outside to fetch whatever they need.

NEETs can be Hikikomori but it's not always the case since you can be a NEET because you can't just find a job.

Hikikomori are often NEETs too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 06:47:13 2015 No.13771537 >>13771277 There is no difference between a Furi-ita and NEET.

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 08:28:59 2015 No.13771745

Otaku is someone who obesses over a hobbie a la japanese. Like, a manga otaku or a train otaku or a mecha otaku.
NEET is someone who doesn't work or study.
Hikikomori is someone who doesn't leave the house.

They are different things and someone can have any combination of the three. Uneducated people usually say NEET to imply all three together at once, but that's wrong.
I know people who are NEETS and go out almost everyday (they've been leeching from their parents for years, unsurprising considering 70% youth unemployement rate around here though). They failed school and some are otaku and some are not (most of them trpg or videogame otaku). They cannot be considered hikikomori.
Hikikomori is the rarest trait of the bunch, or maybe the hardest to detect, because how do you know if the person does never leave? I've been a hikkikomori for a few years, but I wasn't a NEET because I was officially enrolled in studies, even though I did not attend.
When I was a hiki I usually left the house to go to the supermarket for 15 minutes or so every once in a while (every 2 weeks or so).
Hikikomori phenomenon has received increased public coverage in my country. They call it hikikomori because they thought it only occured in Japan until now. It is strongly associated with mental disorders but it is unknown if the disorders are the cause or the consequence. In my opinion this will become a huge public health issue soon like it is in Japan. You can do so much stuff without leaving your room nowadays, and rooms are private, so people like me will take the easy way for reasons and never leave. I'm pretty sure if we just had a bed and a window and had to share the room with a sibling we'd leave more often.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 08:33:47 2015 No.13771752 File: 1.24 MB, 199x199, 1207363935740.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You could have just used google for an answer to this question.

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 08:50:49 2015 No.13771794

>>13771289
How is a NEET not a normie? A Jobless normie is still a normie. A NEET doesn't have to be an otaku or a hikki or a lolicon or anything else. They still go outside and have friends and be worthless together.

>>13771537
Except one is sometimes employed.

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 08:57:18 2015 No.13771807

>>13768920
>Hikkikomori have agoraphobia and probably paranoia
Agoraphobia and paranoia? you are completely off. That sounds like the guess of someone who doesn't know the issue firsthand.
Acording to statics near 75% exhibit affective disorders, 20% anxiety and 30% psychotic disorder. Agoraphobia is an anxiety disorder and paranoia is a psychotic one. So they are a subset of the lowest percentile of the affected people (figures for agoraphobia and paranoia will be lower than 20% and 35%)
In my personal experience agoraphobia and paranoia have nothing to do with hikikomori. It is way way more prone to come with extreme social anxiety, depression and PTSD (affective disorders).
I'm not saying that agoraphobia and paranoia can't happen, but it would be rare (paranoia less so, but agoraphobia...)
PTSD because of domestic violence, bullying, rape and generally violence towards the subject is in my opinion a big piece of the puzzle. Then it is a vicious cycle. It can be just passive violence like being ignored in a social enviroment repeatedly. Generally unpleasant social situations will cause avoidance and in the modern world you can lock yourself and still have entertainment and some sort of controlled social contact through the internet.
Hikikomori don't necessarely want to be in their room. It's just the most convenient place.
It is a vicious cycle of social avoidance and it feeds itself and keeps getting bigger. Just ask any hiki and they will answer the same "society is rotten" (I agree).
In my opinion the only "cure" would be a very well thought and personalized social training program for the subject. Or the better alternative which is killing every fucking normal out there, remove 99% of the population and destroy society as we know it

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 09:17:35 2015 No.13771861

>>13771807
>Or the better alternative which is killing every fucking normal out there, remove 99% of the population and destroy society as we know it
This is golden. Lets entertain that idea. Once all "normies" removed who will pay your bills? How do you get your food? Electricity? Other life necessary things for hikki life-style? They will all disappear. In order to survive you will need to find other shut ins, reestablish the society and start working.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 09:21:23 2015 No.13771868 >>13768904 One is gay, the other is a fag, and the last one is an ultra homolord.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 09:22:38 2015 No.13771873 >>13771745 What's it like in Zimbabwe, financially speaking? How are you able to afford a computer and wi-fi?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 10:00:17 2015 No.13771979 >>13768904 will my lynnfield i5-760 bottleneck an r9 or 980?

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 10:03:02 2015 No.13771987

>>13771807
>Agoraphobia is an anxiety disorder
>In my personal experience agoraphobia ... (has) nothing to do with hikikomori.
>It is way way more prone to come with extreme social anxiety

>Agoraphobia is a condition where the sufferer becomes anxious in environments that are unfamiliar or where he or she perceives that they have little control. Triggers for this anxiety may include wide open spaces, crowds (social anxiety), or traveling (even short distances).

>Agoraphobia is often, but not always, compounded by a fear of social embarrassment ... This is also sometimes called "social agoraphobia" which may be a type of social anxiety disorder also sometimes called "social phobia".

True, not all hikkis may want or feel compelled to stay in their rooms, but they aren't all rape/bullying victims either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 10:09:36 2015 No.13772004 >>13771861 there wont be bills to pay normies being gone means its just people like you the world is a better place no more need to be hikik no more normies

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 10:14:51 2015 No.13772014 >>13772004 >no more need to be hikik I'm not going to start leaving the house just because the people outside are now more autistic than previously.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 10:15:42 2015 No.13772016 >>13772014 then you die shiggidy giggidy. not 1 care.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 10:18:20 2015 No.13772023 >>13772016 So my choices stay inside and mooch off of my parents or the government under the current reality or "leave your house or die" under your reality? Tough choice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 10:24:38 2015 No.13772029 OP is a faggot.... ggrks...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 11:05:53 2015 No.13772088 >>13769190 You can go out for walks and whatnot and still be a hikki.

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 11:44:30 2015 No.13772203

>>13772023
the whole point of being a hikik is to avoid social situations/people, you're just a retarded neet faggot.
with all the normies gone, there will barely be anyone left in relation to the size of available land on the Earth. Going outside and avoiding people won't be a problem.

Anonymous Tue Jul 14 13:40:13 2015 No.13772601

>>13768982

If you have absolutely no social life or friendships, I would say you are more or less hikki. I was in a similar situation in college, eventually dropped out and went full hikki for a couple of years. Have a job now though, can't say I'm any happier for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 21:55:26 2015 No.13774472 >>13768920 I am a hikkikomori an Otaku and a NEET. Get on my level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 21:56:27 2015 No.13774478 >>13772601 >Have a job now though, can't say I'm any happier for it. Did your mom force you to get one? What a cunt. I hope it's not physically demanding at least!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 22:38:38 2015 No.13774636 >>13768953 Replace "nerd" with "autistic loser" and yeah

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 04:56:53 2015 No.13776020 >>13769190 Hikkikomori doesn't mean you literally stay cooped up in your house and never go out ever. You have to buy food and shit. Japanese isn't quite as specific as you think.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 08:49:58 2015 No.13781827 >>13776020 You can order food and make your own shit in the bathroom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 09:26:38 2015 No.13781943 Reminder that you're not a hikki unless you isolate yourself for at least six months.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 09:27:20 2015 No.13781947 >>13769220 fuck off to reddit and talk about your bazinga big shit somewhere else

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 09:46:28 2015 No.13782006 >>13771277 neets are good for the economy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 09:48:16 2015 No.13782013 >>13782006 Explain how, Redditor.

Anonymous Thu Jul 16 09:53:08 2015 No.13782034

>>13782013
They stimulate it.

Imagine a guy earns 5k a month. he will spend what he needs to survive and put the remainder of his money in the bank.

now, if he has to give a third of that income away, he will spend part of the remainder and put a smaller amount in the bank.

the part he gave a way is distributed among the neets. they have no money, and so spend it all on essentials. none of it is saved in a bank doing nothing. if we had less neets, or rather less benefit programs for neets, that would mean less money actually being put back into the economy and more just sitting around in bank accounts. it's not good for the average sod, but good for the economy on a whole.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 09:56:46 2015 No.13782049 >>13782034 >They stimulate it. Can I stimulate... you... if you know what I mean, winky face?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 09:58:10 2015 No.13782054 >>13782049 no. that would be lewd and breaking my chastity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 09:59:00 2015 No.13782058 >>13782034 If there is one thing I know about economics, it's that nothing is what it logically might seem to be. But yes, money is made to be circulated.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 11:45:17 2015 No.13782427 >>13782058 No, money is made to end up in my pockets, you dumb Goy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 19:18:35 2015 No.13784168 >>13768904 Pretty much every one of these /jp/ autists are all three at once. If not, they're probably FEMINIST MANGINAS.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 03:43:19 2015 No.13786313 >>13781943 I've isolated myself for well over five years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 04:28:23 2015 No.13786601 Why don't people just use "shut-in" or "recluse" for hikikomori?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 04:37:03 2015 No.13786656 >>13784168 I'm an otaku, a NEET, a Hikikomori, and a feminist all at the same time. Checkmate faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 04:53:08 2015 No.13786722 >>13786656 >someone actually typed this and posted it on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 05:00:27 2015 No.13786772 >>13786722 You are, in fact, correct.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 05:01:16 2015 No.13786776 >>13786722 Let me ask you one simple question: who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 05:08:51 2015 No.13786805 >>13786776 IT'S CALLED GREENTEXTING U FAKING NEWFAG

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 17 05:12:37 2015 No.13786810 >>13786805 >FAKING Are you saying he's faking it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 02:23:04 2015 No.13795562 >>13768904 They are all the same.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 03:07:50 2015 No.13795704 >>13768920 Didn't "otaku" come from the word for being "at home" in Japanese? Isn't that pretty much the same as hikky?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 03:21:34 2015 No.13795730 >>13768904 nothing they are all human trash

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 19 04:03:09 2015 No.13795873 >>13795730 seconded

Anonymous Sun Jul 19 04:14:41 2015 No.13795917

>>13795704
>Otaku is derived from a Japanese term for another person's house or family (お宅, otaku). This word is often used metaphorically, as an honorific second-person pronoun. In this usage, its literal translation is "you". For example, in the anime Macross, first aired in 1982, Lynn Minmay uses the term this way.
It's just a slang for you/you guys!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 20 19:21:17 2015 No.13803552 >>13768904 I don't know!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 20 19:22:35 2015 No.13803558 >>13795730 This.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 22 05:43:22 2015 No.13809999 >>13768934 How do you survive for 10 years?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:10:24 2015 No.13814009 >>13795704 it's a personal pronoun. the "home" meaning is incidental.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 02:14:17 2015 No.13814018 >>13771537 >There is no difference between a Furi-ita and NEET. You are wrong. Freeters by definition work jobs. NEETs by definition don't have jobs. They are completely different.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 03:07:21 2015 No.13814240 >>13768904 One is an anime fan. One is a loser with no work experience. One is a person who holes themself in all the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 03:15:54 2015 No.13814288 >>13814240 Otaku does not solely mean "anime fan".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 03:19:51 2015 No.13814307 Why are people still answering the OP?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 05:19:21 2015 No.13814700 >>13814307 people love to demonstrate their knowledge. ask me another one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 05:26:56 2015 No.13814726 >>13814700 Why are you such a faggot?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 05:42:37 2015 No.13814758 >>13814700 Where do whales come from?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 23 08:52:54 2015 No.13815251 >>13814758 The ocean. >>13814726 NO U

Anonymous Thu Jul 23 12:13:24 2015 No.13815766

>>13768983
I think the derogatory meaning of otaku only applies when the person is interested only by anime/manga/etc and not by any real-life social activities or other hobbies. If it isn't the case, I think "otaku" is usually used as >>13768931 said.

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