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Visual Novel translation status


Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1410/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (61.1%)"
Amairo IsleNauts - prologue and common route fully translated, Shirley route 10% TL, Masaki 18.5% TL, Konoka 55% TL, bonus 20% TL, prologue patch out
>AstralAir - prologue patch released, 19,264/63,940 (30.13%) lines translated
>Ayakashi Gohan - 43% complete
Black Wolves Saga: 35/65 scripts translated
Bunny Black 2 - To be translated
Clover Day - 100% of the common route + 348/711 KB, 119/743 KB, 92/764 and 74/722 KB of 4 routes translated
Flight Diary - 14.8% translated
Gore Screaming Show - Prologue and day one patch released
HaraKano - 44% beta patch released
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Hatsukoi 1/1 - 11409 lines translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - New project started, prologue mostly translated
Ken ga Kimi: 70/122 scripts translated
Koichoco - 100% translated, 390/397 files edited, 230/397 files QC
Koiken Otome - 95.87% translated, 83.09% edited, prologue patch released
>Koisuru Natsu no Last Resort - 100% translated, 34028/36325 (93.68%) through first editing pass
Kud Wafter - 12982/33132 (39.18%) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 74.79% translated
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. 29712/30163 new lines translated
Lovely Cation- 14.6% of lines completed
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, new demo patch for items, skills, and gameplay text, etc

>> No.13760350

>Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 20% translated
Noble Works - 48,169 / 57,690 (83.5%) lines translated, partial patch released
Nursery Rhyme - 8543/32977 lines translated
>Oreimo Tsuzuku - 246/268 scripts translated, 181/268 through TLC+Editing, 84/268 scripts finalized
PersonA - 44% translated
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 18647/30040 (62.07%) lines translated
SakuSaku - Common route + Konami route fully translated, 40742/49257 (83%) lines translated, 28289/49257 (57%) lines finalized, Konami + Mio route released
Starry Sky In Summer - 120/177 scripts translated
SubaHibi - 100% translated, 2nd editing pass and QC remain
Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 100% translated and edited, QC and technical work remains
>Tsujidou-san no Jun'ai Road - 11/323 scripts translated
Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete - 4282/35056 (15.7%) lines translated
>Witch's Garden - 34034/67201 (50.65%) lines translated, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 78.42%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

>> No.13760355

Eat shit, Dan88.

>> No.13760356

Official work

MangaGamer
Natsuiro Mikan - July release
Asuka Final Chapter - In scripting
Euphoria - In scripting
Free Friends 2 - 100% translated, 58.7% edited
Higurashi Hou -Onikakushi released, 35.8% of Watanagashi TL
Kara no Shoujo 2 - 100% translated, 82.1% edited
Bokuten - 66.5% translated, 30.05% edited
Da Capo 3 - 50.6% translated
Gahkthun - 100% translated, 21.5% edited
OZMAFIA - 41.9% translated
House in Fata Morgana - 63.1% translated
Myth - 1.1% translated
My Boss Wife is My Ex - 38.2% translated, 30.9% edited
Kuroinu - Picked up, being released as 3 seperate chapters
Supipara - Intend to fund through Eden's sales
Sonohana RHWM - Picked up
Himawari - Picked up
Umineko - Picked up
Beat Blades Haruka - Picked up

JAST
Raidy III - July 20th release
Shiny Days - August 25th release
Seinarukana- Fall release
Django - 1st half of 2016
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- translation about half done
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up
Flowers - Fall released planned
Sonicomi - Picked up

Sekai/Denpa
>Ame no Marginal - Released
Grisaia trilogy - First game all ages version released, 18+ release planned
World End Economica- ch 2 July release
Clannad - 75% translated, 4Q 2015 release
WAS - Kickstarter finished, delayed
Fault Milestone 2 - Demo released
Hitomebore - April release
Kokonoe Kokoro - April release
Shizuku no Oto - picked up
Sacrament Sheep - In Beta
Memory's Dogma - Kickstarter reached goal
G-Senjou - Summer release
Chrono Clock - Picked up
Double Root - Picked up

Other
Muv Luv Trilogy - Kickstarter planned
Eiyuu Senki - Summer release
Moenovel is working on another title
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - Kickstarter planned
Harvest December - 3DS ports being released
Amnesia - 8/25 release

>> No.13760364

>>13760355

Fuck off, fuwanovel fag.

>> No.13760541

Fan-translation part of the report keeps getting smaller...

>> No.13760557

>>13760541
Just like anime fansubs are declining, and for many of the same reasons.

>> No.13760663

>>13760557
Well, VN translation takes way longer than fansubbing, and it's way harder to get tools or team for.
But yeah, these threads and scene have come a long way.

>> No.13760740

Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythm – 482/45,312

>> No.13760815

>>13757787
The post was made 5 months ago, retard. How the hell is it salty?

>> No.13760832

>>13760557
Because official companies do a faster and better job, Funimation excluded? And because the old fansubbers have become functioning members of society so all you're left with is a bunch of assholes with no work ethic. See, you know you can put more trust in the people working for companies because they actually had the motivation to go and get employed. This is their job, not their hobby.

>> No.13760837

>>13760815
?

>> No.13760840

>>13760349
>using a picture from a barely started project instead of Ame no Marginal, a finished game

That's bias if I ever saw it.

>> No.13760846

>>13760832
And in both cases, there are drawbacks to official translations too.

>> No.13760852

>>13760837
http://ask.fm/TulipGoddess/answer/126151702475
>5 months ago

She's not salty about JAST getting Flowers. This was well before anyone knew that's what was going to happen. That's how you know this is what she truly believes. Anyone who reads that should be getting really hyped for Yuri Ghosts.

>> No.13760858

>>13760846
Pretty minor ones.

>> No.13760863

>>13760852
Just like they got hyped for Flowers.

In before JAST steals Yurirei too.

>> No.13760868

It seems MG has a killer annoucement for Otakon. Just checked conjueror twitter and the hype is off the charts.

>> No.13760873

>>13760858
There are some pretty major ones too. And there have been plenty of incompetent official translators since always, since many of them don't really care about the material and are just doing it to get paid.

>> No.13760874

>>13760868
Otakon predictions:

Dies Irae
Muramasa
Baldr Sky
Albatross
Bullet Butlers

>> No.13760883

>>13760873
Doing it to get paid is precisely why they care more than the worthless hobbyists. If they fuck up, they're fired.

>> No.13760886

>>13760874
More like :

Supipara episode 1

>> No.13760892

>>13760883
Yeah that's not always true. I don't think you actually have much experience reading official localizations.

>> No.13760893

>>13760886
They're announcing five things and Doddler confirmed last thread that one of those five is actually happening.

>> No.13760897

>>13760868
There was a conversation on his twitter about MG being able to localize the game because now they have conjueror and gare. Really makes me wonder what it is.
I'm on my phone so it's hard to post the twitter link but I can do it later.

>> No.13760898

>>13760892
http://www.carpefulgur.com/drakblog/?p=53

Read this post.

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>>13760898
Is this for fucking real? Just when you thought Carpe Fulgur couldn't get any dumber.

>> No.13760914

>>13760897
It's Muramasa, isn't it? It's gonna be Muramasa.

>> No.13760921

>>13760356
>Himawari - Picked up
Himawari is already completely translated. The script is being revised.

>> No.13760922

>>13760898
Is that post supposed to contradict me? That company is known for having butchered the scripts of a few games.

>> No.13760923

>>13760914
Not really. It's gonna be Sumaga release date - easly 2016, delayed to Fall.

>> No.13760939

>>13760922
No, I just thought it would be funny to have you read it.

>> No.13760972

>>13760921
I've been seeing people say this, but what's the source for this information? If it's true though, it's really awesome that they held off on revealing it until it's almost finished. It's nice to hear about a game existing and not have to wait years to actually play it.

>> No.13760983

>>13760972
https://twitter.com/Conjueror/status/617566574313013249

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>>13760983
Nice.

>> No.13761044

>>13760840
A barely started project that will most likely get a C&D/absorbed at that.

>> No.13761061

>>13760893
They're announcing five things, but only two are from new companies, so expecting a great list like that one is ridiculous.

>> No.13761082

>>13761061
I'm pretty sure that was the joke.

>> No.13761091

>>13760874

It's Dies Irae

Conjurer has taken a few shots at translating it in the past and he originally approached mangagamer with himawari and the desire to work on another title, so.

However that was known back when it was 3 announcements and one new partner.

Now that we've got a second new partner, I am suddenly intrigued again. I doubt it's anything that earth shattering, but I wonder what it could be.

>> No.13761094

>>13761091
Something earth shattering. The second one is Baldr Sky.

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13761115

And just what the HELL is so funny about this?

>> No.13761139

>>13761115

It's really stupid. The big romantic finale of this dude's route in the previous game revolves around the MC giving him another name once they get engaged––because he only has one name, like Cher––and the MC decides to name him "Cryzzard" because he's "strong like a blizzard and beautiful like crystal". It's played 100% seriously. This is the FD and he insists that she call him by that name whenever they're alone.

>> No.13761149

>>13761139
That's literally the most ridiculous thing ever. I want to read this.

>> No.13761151

>>13761139
That's very silly. Although at the same time, I wouldn't mind that being my name.

>> No.13761154

For the record, I totally know that ビッチ means personal computer.

>> No.13761178

Since we're busy stalking people's twitters and paying attention to useless things. BDH seems to be adding a y to his "Otakon Hype!" each day

>> No.13761241
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>>13760840
Yeah, what the hell's with the OP image? It's not like Sekai isn't screwing up on marketing it themselves. Kataoka deserves more love than this.

>> No.13761243

>>13761178
Paying attention to useless things is great, they may subconsciously let something slip and then you can use it to blackmail them later. Great detectives use this trick all the time where they notice some minor thing the person said that completely gives away their crime.

The Y definitely sounds like a Baldr Sky hint. See how it ends with Y? Yeah. Just like the wait for Baldr Sky will finally end at Otakon.

>> No.13761249

>>13761241
I think he's just a Muv-Luv fanboy. "Dat Meiya tho" - Nietzsche

>> No.13761260

Gonna be interesting if English Only Friends will finally get to read Baldr Sky.

You all waited so long I guess you'll be really underwhelmed by it.

>> No.13761271

MG announces their new partnership with Giga:

"Please buy Kiss Ato if you want to see a Baldr Sky translation!"

>> No.13761273

>>13761260
I highly doubt I could possibly be underwhelmed by it.

>> No.13761279

>>13761273
And that's why you'll be. The more you hype it in your head, the more likely you're to say "That was it?" after playing it.

>> No.13761282

>>13761260
I just hope that is close to as good as Duel Savior was.

>> No.13761288

Also to note, even your God moogy admits it's not flawless.
http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/blog/?p=1092
> First, some of the biggest reveals were made annoyingly obvious before they actually got revealed (one of them has been obvious since Dive 1). Second, Sora's route takes a bizzare and inexplicable nosedive in quality of execution around the 2/3 mark (seriously, what the hell happened there), but it does mostly recover after a chapter or two so it's not a huge problem.

Also it would be funny if this happened >>13761271

>> No.13761303

>>13761279
Maybe he has his expectations so low he could not be possibly underwhelmed.

>> No.13761309

>>13761279
Well, here's the thing. I know what visual novels are so I'm able to keep my expectations completely in check. I'm also pretty easy to satisfy anyway. So as long as it's not a straight up bad game or something (which I can't imagine it would be), I'll be fine. All I expect is a bit of cool mecha stuff.

I'd imagine a lot of people getting hyped are idiots who overhype everything, but I know what I'm doing and have enjoyed life pretty well as a result.

>> No.13761316

>>13761271
>>13761288
Looking Kiss Ato up, this seems pretty neat. I wouldn't mind that, and I bet people would actually like it since it doesn't have the hype of Baldr Sky behind it.

>> No.13761322

>>13760349
Why is Little Busters EX still in the OP?

>> No.13761325

>>13761288
What's a god to a nonbeliever?

>> No.13761338

What was wrong with Duel Savior? Aside from Aroduc doing it, of course.

>> No.13761343

>>13761309
>All I expect is a bit of cool mecha stuff.
Thanks for the tease man. I hope I don't die of anxiety until Otakon

>> No.13761344

>>13761271
Would be pretty good. Especially /jp/ elitist's butthurt.

>> No.13761352

>>13761343
What?

>> No.13761353

>>13760874
Supipara
Tsuriotsu
Princess Evangile fan disc
???
???

>> No.13761354

>>13761352
He means that Japanese readers will be unhappy that you lowly EOPs will get Baldr Sky.

In reality it will be just be trolls baiting on both sides.

>> No.13761355

>>13761353
Dies Irae Muramasa
Baldr Sky Albatross Bullet Butlers

They combined them and made new games, kinda like Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

>> No.13761359

>>13761353
>Tsuriotsu
Really?

>> No.13761360

>>13761354
Oh. That's true. I fully expect a massive shitstorm when Baldr Sky is finally announced, so I'll be out of here even quicker than I was out of /m/ when Tomino apologized for G-Reco (which I liked).

>> No.13761368

>>13761355
Inclusion of Albatross makes this list 0% believable.

>> No.13761372

>>13761368
It's not Albatross, it's Baldr Sky Albatross Bullet Butlers. Get it right, yeesh.

>> No.13761392

>>13760815
They probably didn't click the link and assumed it came after the Jast announcement.

>> No.13761400

>>13761392
To be fair, I did think it sounded salty too, like "Yeah, who cares about that Flowers shit, I totally didn't want that." Then I looked at the date and realized she actually was being honest.

>> No.13761426

>>13761359
>Tsuriotsu
Tsuriotsu got first place in getchu awards of 2014 and on 2013 it got 3rd place I believe. A PSVita version is also in the works.
Since good moeges are pretty much guaranteed to be a success I find it hard to believe MG not trying to localize Tsuriotsu.

>> No.13761433

>>13761426
I'd never heard of it but this looks fun to me. Very attractive protagonist. Who is apparently even voiced, I like that.

>> No.13761442

>>13761372
>>13761355
The new name is 'Albatross Sky Butlers'. They'll be revising the plot accordingly, too.

>> No.13761444

>>13761325
Still a god, the nonbeliever is just in denial.

>> No.13761463

>>13761442
I like that.

>> No.13761467

>>13761322
There was an update on Twitter last week about it.

>> No.13761517

Praying for SubaHibi release soon... it is July 12th, almost 10:44pm in Japan right now...

>> No.13761585

>>13761517
What do the date and time have to do with anything? Is that a reference?

>> No.13761591

Moogy is the worst fucking Wheat Auditor I've ever seen.

>> No.13761605

>>13761591
He's probably not even auditing the wheat himself. Just taking credit for someone else's work, as usual.

>> No.13761675

>>13760874

Kamikaze Explorers.

>> No.13761676

>>13761675
Why would they do a no-name game like that?

>> No.13761704

>>13761585
Subahibi will be released 7/20.

>> No.13761713

>>13761704
I swear if this is like that time when Mirror Moon delayed Heaven's Feel just so they could release it on Halloween.

>> No.13761750

>>13761675
Doddler told about it long time ago btw

>> No.13761767

>>13761676
Clochette isn't no-name.

>> No.13761776

>>13761704
vvav and Herkz say otherwise

>> No.13761781

>>13761767
For a western audience whose knowledge about eroge based on what moogy told about its pretty much no-name.

>> No.13761795

>>13761338
Isn't that enough?

>> No.13761805
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>lesbians
>condom

???????

>> No.13761807

>>13761795
Ahaha, good point.

>> No.13761811

>>13761767
The joke is that this is exactly what idiots on MangaGamer's forums will say if they get a game like that. What is even the logic in them even getting Kamikaze Explorers anyway even, have there even been any hints even? Because that would be odd.

>> No.13761823

I only hope no more Chrono Clocks will happen. Game getting translated is no problem in itself, but it shouldn't have to be fucked up for that sake.

>> No.13761834

>>13761750
I remember doddler tweeting months ago something about a company saying that to make a profit they needed to sell about 5000 units so they declined an eventual localization. Doddler also said that the company was one he suggested. I believe that at the time he was referring to Kamikaze Explorer.

>> No.13761836

>>13761823
I don't understand how keeping the sex scenes but setting them to the side where they can't interfere qualifies as "fucking up" a game.

>> No.13761854

Question: Why isn't there an Encyclopedia Dramatica entry about Dovac?

>> No.13761857

>>13761854
Question: Does that site seriously still exist?

>> No.13761866

>>13761836
It does for Japanese.

Also I'm talking about the overall low quality of the game, which was already discussed in previous threads.

>> No.13761873

>>13761866
So your saying it turned out the way it was because it was developed with localization in mind?

>> No.13761890

>>13761873
Possibly in a misguided attempt to appeal to Western sensibilities.

Otherwise it's hard to think they'd just make their game worse on purpose.

>> No.13761910

>>13761890
That "misguided attempt to appeal to western sensibilities" thing is exactly what I don't want to see Japanese companies do, I agree with you there and hope that doesn't become more popular.

>> No.13761924

>>13761338
I personally loved it. Only thing that I didn't like about it was that bullshit in the end of the sister route about the MC and her not actually being blood related.
I posted >>13761282

>> No.13761961

Hell, you should think like me. When I see a bunch of hype I immediately go in expecting disappointment. That makes me love things even MORE when they're truly good.

>> No.13761973

>>13761924
We hate Aroduc now because he doesn't like Cross Ange and Akame ga Kill. Get with the times.

>> No.13761975

>>13761924
Ah. I thought you were being facetious since generally whenever I see people talking about Duel Savior it's all about how it was a waste of time to translate and Aroduc's a troll for doing that instead of Baldr Sky and whatever else. So that's interesting that you actually like it, I guess it's one of those games where it can really go either way.

>> No.13761982

>>13761973
Incidentally, I also hate Moogy for this reason. Not that I know what he actually thinks of them, he just seems like enough of an asshole for that to be the case, you know?

>> No.13761987

>>13761975
It's a lot higher rated than most things that get translated and got two fandisks plus a major port completely redoing all the voicing. At least in Japan, it was fairly high rated and noteworthy.

>> No.13762002

>>13761987
So it's just the western VN community being retarded, as usual? That fucking no-name lolige, Himawari.

>> No.13762008

>>13761776
It doesn't matter what those 2 faggots say, the translator himself said if they don't have it done by 7/20, he'll personally release a beta patch that includes all of his work and some of the editing/qc

>> No.13762014

>>13762002
Well, it's far from a perfect game. Like Yu-No, it's dated and does some stuff with its routing especially that games these days would get eviscerated for. But yes, a little bit.

>> No.13762024

>>13762008
vvav is the translator, he said it's probably not gonna be out by the 20th after. He shitposts on /vg/ regularly enough that we have more up to date info than that shit he said months ago.

>>13762002
Woah there pal, Himawari is really good from what I've read of it and was popular enough as a doujin game to get an official release amd console ports with new art.

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>>13762024
ah, apologies, I don't browse JP much so I wouldn't know of vvav's shitposting scandals
So the 7/20 thing won't come true?

>> No.13762044

>>13762036
Well I suppose we could still hope for a partially-edited release but if they're trying to get it licensed then we can forget about it.

>> No.13762076

>>13762024
>Woah there pal, Himawari is really good from what I've read of it and was popular enough as a doujin game to get an official release amd console ports with new art.

I'm guessing you haven't been around lately. That was a reference to how some know-it-all idiot on the MangaGamer forums called it that when MangaGamer picked up the remake the other day.

http://forums.mangagamer.org/viewtopic.php?p=15126#p15126

Those of us with brains are actually pretty happy about it, though.

>> No.13762088

>>13762014
Is Yu-No still the best video game story ever told, like this guy says?
http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=251002

>> No.13762096

>>13762088
No. Megaman 3 is.

>> No.13762102

>>13762076
Oh, I misunderstood. Let me just reiterate that Himawari has really nice writing, music and atmosphere and I'm going to wait for the translation to read the rest of it because it'd be a waste to read it with dictionary assistance.

>> No.13762105

>>13761353
Too much moege. And Doddler already said the translators are too busy to do the Evangile fandisc even though the staff wants to.

>> No.13762113

Let's remember when we speculate on what Doddler calls exciting announcements that he also called Huniepop and Boob Wars 2 exciting.

>> No.13762114

>>13762088
I can't believe that old-ass thread actually got posted in as recently as yesterday. Like, what are the chances?

>Now, the story probably doesn't hold up so great like it probably did when it was released....18 years ago. Especially when comparing it to newer items of the genre, such as Umineko no Naku Koro ni, which is quite unique in its own ways.

>> No.13762117

>>13761426
They'd likely wait until the vita version is out so they could release both versions at once like Princess Evangile.

>> No.13762119

>>13762113
Boob Wars 2 is very exciting, what do you mean?

>> No.13762127

>>13762113
Well, those are both nukige. Exciting, fo yo dick. That kind of excitement can be categorized completely separately. He said none of them are nukige so there is a LOT of potential here. Plus it's not just him calling them exciting. For one thing, there's a HARDCORE yuri lover.

>> No.13762128

>>13761704
Or one of the licensing companies already licensed it and will end up as a Otakon announcement.

>> No.13762130

>>13762128
That would be hilarious, since I give zero fucks about that edgy rapefest.

>> No.13762132

>>13762127
They're not even decent nukige.

>> No.13762140

>>13762130
Well we know it isn't SP, they couldn't get any Steambux off of it.

>> No.13762144

>>13762113
Yes, but Doddler said that none of the announcements are nukige.

>> No.13762149

>>13762132
>nukige
>decent

Pick one.

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>>13760349
>TE is getting translated
finally my life has a purpose

>> No.13762154

>>13762144
I, for one, am hype as fuck for Albatross Sky Butlers.

>> No.13762160

>>13762149
I'm in for the sex scenes. If I wanted something resembling a coherent story, I'd read a book.

>> No.13762163

>>13762113
>Boob Wars 2
For a nukige, I found Boob Wars 2 pretty good. Fapped a lot and had a lot of fun with its stupidity.
I think doddler bought HuniePop ironically and ended up liking it.

>> No.13762169

>>13762130
On twitter Herkz said to license Subahibi and give him money. I think that was him trolling because it's already been licensed, so he's already getting paid.

>> No.13762194
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>> No.13762200

>>13762160
You can read books for sex scenes though.

>> No.13762209

>>13762160
If all you care about is sex scenes, then you don't really need a translation, so what does it matter?

>> No.13762220

>>13762194
A long awaited spiritual sequel of Hatoful Boyfriend.

>> No.13762229

>>13762160
>If I wanted something resembling a coherent story, I'd read a book.
Why not read a proper VN instead? Reading a book in this day and age is like choosing to go look at etchings in a cave wall when you could just go see a movie.

>> No.13762239

>>13762220
The boyfriends have gotten ambitious to take on a job as demanding as sky butler.

>> No.13762244

>>13762229
>Reading a book in this day and age is like choosing to go look at etchings in a cave wall when you could just go see a movie.

Holy shit, I really hope this is just a joke.

>> No.13762254

>>13762160
Btw, can suggest any good books which resembles vn?

>> No.13762255
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>>13762076
>If Himawari is so super popular then I wonder why I can't even find it on Getchu

>> No.13762269

>>13762254
Sword Art Online is pretty good, it's about this kid who gets stuck in an online game and meets a bunch of cool girls. He turns out to be pretty badass himself and eventually gets married.

>> No.13762272

>>13762255
How about all the "AS EXPECTED, AS PREDICTED, I AM THE TRUE MASTERMIND AND MY NAME IS LIGHT YAGAMI" shit. You can tell this guy literally relies on VNDB.

>> No.13762273

>>13762024
>Himawari is really good from what I've read of it and was popular enough as a doujin game to get an official release amd console ports with new art.
So was Umineko, but people still hate that one.

>> No.13762279

>>13762273
Eh? Umineko's pretty universally liked, dude. I think you're confusing "hated" with "hated on /jp/." Remember what kind of board /jp/ is. Buncha "circlejerking" and elitism.

>> No.13762280

Aiyoku no Eustia for JAST

>> No.13762286

>>13762096
Is this a serious opinion? Because an old NES game seems like an unusual choice for best story. Especially since it's 2 that's the popular one. Did you mean best game overall, or do you have some reasoning behind that opinion? Or are you just being silly.

>> No.13762290

>>13762273
I doesn't have an infamously disappointing ending as far as I know, you can't go anywhere without hearing about Chiru. And Umineko is still really popular by VN standards, backlash from Chiru notwithstanding.

>> No.13762296 [DELETED] 

>>13762269
>ChronoClock was just recently released and it's already higher rated on VNDB than Choukou Sennin Haruka with an almost equal amount of votes.

He sure does.

>> No.13762303

>>13762272
>ChronoClock was just recently released and it's already higher rated on VNDB than Choukou Sennin Haruka with an almost equal amount of votes.

He sure does.

>> No.13762309

>>13762303
Its too late, everybody already saw it.

>> No.13762320

>>13762303
Meanwhile on egs...

BBH - 80 / nukige king (1320 votes)
Chrono Clock - 70 / kitai hazure (150 votes)

>> No.13762327

>>13762309
I blame moot for this.

>> No.13762329

>>13762320
Kitai hazure? "Come home with these chopsticks"?

>> No.13762339

>>13762329
You're probably joking, but that's referring to disappointment. Expectations not met.

>> No.13762495

>Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 20% translated
is this a fuwanovel-tier project?

>> No.13762502

>>13762495
Everything is Fuwanovel-tier, anon.

>> No.13762526

>Muv Luv Total Eclipse
Suck it would be take down by jews after kickstarter for MLA end

>> No.13762548

>>13762495
>fan translation

Gee, I wonder. Don't worry, Degica will pick it up later and fix things.

>> No.13762668

>>13761353

Supipara
Princess Evangile FD
Swapping Tsuriotsu for Yurirei
??? 1: Some random yaoi. since NTY did rather well
??? 2: This is the difficult one. I guess it's the one conjueror is working on. Looking at his wordpress it might be something on his "Great" list. My bet is on Aiyoku no Eustia.

>> No.13762709

>>13760874
Is Dies Irae Moogy-dono approved?

I only play games that he approves of.

>> No.13762722

>>13762495
It's the same group who's been releasing the edited machine translations of TDA. It's not Fuwanovel, but it may as well be.

>> No.13762733

Nothing yet for Angel beats?
Hmmmm

>> No.13762739

Why does this list seem so much smaller than before? What's going on in the VNTL scene?

>> No.13762741

>>13762733
It bombed hard in Japan for what I'd hope are obvious reasons. The only thing you're going to get is an /a/ or Fuwa machine TL.

>> No.13762751

>>13762739
And it still has dead/nonexistent projects on it.

>> No.13762771

>>13762751
Plus all the Fuwa projects by ESLs who are just running it through Atlas.

>> No.13762779

>>13762722
They're doing MT?

Really?

>> No.13762784

>>13762668
>My bet is on Aiyoku no Eustia.

Seriously doubt it.

>> No.13762802

>>13762779
The first patch they released was full of errors literally copy pasted from Google TL. Their excuse was "Who cares how we translate it as long as it's accurate? Also, we have a professional Japanese translator look over it for errors." I guess he just missed entire passages that were full of mistakes.

https://archive.moe/vg/thread/37950157/#38000389

>九割六分の仲間が死んだ。
>Ninety percent of my comrades were dead within six minutes.

My favorite one that all but confirms it because that is literally not a mistake anybody with even the barest minimum of Japanese would ever make.

>> No.13762811

>>13762802
Damn, that's bad, if these guys can translate eroge anyone can.

>> No.13762849

>>13762802
And yes, it's the exact same project. The current 'translator' even posted in that thread.

>> No.13762851

>>13762802
That's bad, especially since even hovering with Rikaisama gives you enough meanings of 分 to see what it really means.

>> No.13762869

>>13762851
It's incomprehensible. You'd have to split up a number into two different parts, and then apply 分 to each individual part in completely different ways, and then on top of that, it would still say "90% six minutes of my companions were dead."

>> No.13762877

>>13762851
Even if you were to misread it as 6 minutes it wouldn't fit grammatically with the sentence.

>> No.13762881

>>13762869
One of the arts of the fledgling "translator" is reading only the nouns and filling in the rest themselves.

>> No.13762895

>>13762881
And by reading the nouns, we of course mean dropping them into the electronic dictionary of choice.

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>>13762877
Yes, obviously.

I'm saying the translator clearly had no idea and wasn't even able to to pic related and realize which meaning is the one in question.

>> No.13762913

>>13762907
A beginning student of Japanese only knows that 分 means "part", "minute", and "tenth". Probably he said "I know what that means" and didn't even bother.

>> No.13762924

>>13762907
Even without Rikaisama he should have realized that the way he was interpreting it made no sense. It's a matter of understanding basic grammar and using your brain just a tiny bit.

>> No.13762934

On an inappropriately literal level, it's
9 tens of percent 6 ones of percent of companions etc

Misreading that as 6 minutes requires not only not understanding how to read percentages in Japanese, but also moving that part to the end of the sentence and adding a bunch of words not there at all.

Or guessing from mistranslated machine output.

>> No.13762949

>>13762934
Yes very likely, Google Translate gives "Nine percent six minutes".

>> No.13762956

>>13762949
Strange that machine translators can't even do fucking percents right.

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>>13762149
Bishoujo Mangekyou when?

>> No.13763003

http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/10845-imouto-paradise-2-translation/

Dosdedt?

>> No.13763006

>>13761836
> I don't understand how keeping the sex scenes but setting them to the side where they can't interfere qualifies as "fucking up" a game.
They get disjointed from plot timeline and as far as canon game goes, may as well not happen at all.
In normal 18+ vn you get things escalating gradually, they kiss, then they have their fist sex, then they do various ichaicha and more kinky stuff.
In shit like ChroClo you never see them get past light kiss on lips even after they officially become lovers and announce it to every one. Its even more fucked up since losing male virginity is biggest protag's dream and the goal he announced to time goddess when acquired his powers.

>> No.13763055

>>13763006
Forgot to mention, heroines are trying to get into his pants all the time, and imouto even non-joking calls herself his sex slave. His stubborn celibacy just cannot be explained and is weird as fuck.

>> No.13763249

>>13762149
I like Black Lilith and Liquid's nukige.

>> No.13763315

So anyone actually bought anything from mangagamer lately? Seems like it's been awhile since we did order number comparisons and I'm kinda interested in getting a baseline since their ammolite lolige will probably be put up for preorder soon and I'm interested to see that pulls better-than-average numbers.

>> No.13763325

>>13762668
Once again, Doddler already said they don't have time to work on the Princess Evangile fandisc, because of all of their other projects. I also don't consider Supipara to be an announcement, because the intent to release it was revealed last year. I doubt yaoi, unless they found another translator wanting to translate it, since Good Haro has her hands full with Ozmafia.

>> No.13763336

>>13762741
Source on this? And what 'obvious reasons'?

>> No.13763344

>>13763315
Yeah, I bought Free Friends on 2015-06-23, and I was order number 039024. That's my most recent at least.

>> No.13763347

>>13763336
That it's a 10-15 hour, blatantly incomplete game and they're charging full price for it.

>> No.13763351

>>13763003
Apparently, they can't wait for MG to license it. If this project doesn't fall apart, MG is likely going to C&D them before they can ever release it.

>> No.13763356

>>13763347
Also that it's the standard cut and paste anime to VN adaptation where the game is just the anime's script plus more narration.

>> No.13763372

>>13763344

Huh, mangagamer's pulled in 12.5k sales since February. I guess NTY and Evangile both did atleast 3000, althought 2000-3000 of that is probably that groupees bundle.

>> No.13763447

>>13762280
Coming in 2021

>> No.13763449

>>13763344
My most recent "purchase" (bought the game only with MG points) was on April 09, order number 030651.

>> No.13763459

My MG announcement predictions for Otakon:
1) One of nitroplus' earlier titles, Jingai Makyou or Gekkou no Carnevale, in response to JAST getting Flowers.
2) Bullet Butlers, since the partnership with Propellor has been rumored.
3) Okujou no Yurirei-san, since more yuri has been confirmed.
4) Amatarasu Riddle Star, since more softhouse-seal seems inevitable. Currently the only game in their "pure love story" brand.
5) PP -Pianissimo- Ayatsuri Ningyou no Rinbu or Caucasus ~Nanatsuki no Nie~, provided Innocent Grey hasn't jumped ship on MG. Maybe Innocent Grey just wants to keep their all-ages and nukige releases separate in the English market. Flowers was likely going to be the fifth announcement until JAST got it.

>> No.13763473

>>13763459
Why does everybody think MG's going to be able to get a Nitro+ game? And for no better reason than to spite JAST, no less?

>> No.13763480

>>13763473
It's mostly just wishful thinking since JAST admittedly takes forever.

>> No.13763481

>>13763473
/jp/ tends to have difficulty separating fantasy from reality.

>> No.13763484

>>13763459
>1) One of nitroplus' earlier titles, Jingai Makyou or Gekkou no Carnevale, in response to JAST getting Flowers.

While I imagine mangagamer won't pull their punches in the future, I doubt they've managed to turn around and license something in revenge in the space of a couple weeks.

>2) Bullet Butlers, since the partnership with Propellor has been rumored.

Just going to point out that propeller is owned by will, which deals with jast. Though they also tried to enter the market with moenovel, so I suppose anything is possible with them. I still kind of doubt it, because I think mangagamer was intentionally turning down jast partners and learning that such a gentlemen's deal doesn't exist so very recently, I doubt they'll have had time to reapproach negotiations without atleast a few months.

>> No.13763486

>>13763473
Because Jast got Flowers, so they have it in their minds that MG is going to strike back at them for revenge with a deal negotiated initiated and to conclusion in less than two weeks.

>> No.13763490

>>13763459
I'd like to substitute Amatarasu Riddle Star with Magical Marriage Lunatics!!.

>> No.13763498

>>13763486
Yeah, but old Nitro+ games would be not only too good to be true but also probably too low-res for MG to want to touch since they're massive faggots about that.

>> No.13763503
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When?

>> No.13763506

>>13763498
Exactly. It's nothing but complete nonsense.

>> No.13763537

>>13763484
Next year's announcements could be very interesting, unless companies can get their partners to sign exclusivity agreements in the future.

>> No.13763566
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It's here.

>> No.13763568

>>13763473
From the JAST panel N+ sound like they're incredibly sick of things going in JAST time. So it wouldn't be too far fetched I guess.

>> No.13763595

>>13763568
Even if MG eventually did get a Nitro+ license I could only hope they don't mind older titles

>> No.13763666

>>13763568
MG said they had at least one new partner a few weeks back, so whoever the second partner is, has been acquired extremely recently. Of course it's likely someone MG has been in negotiations with for awhile. Maybe we have another Alicesoft situation where a company that formerly refused has finally agreed.

>> No.13763723

>>13763666
Only a week ago, only one of the new partners was a sure thing.
>Actually there's at least one new partner at Otakon. Not in the nukige genre either.
http://ask.fm/The_Doddler/answer/128752064241

>> No.13763750

>>13763566
Cool story, Insem

>> No.13763762

>>13763723
In other words, Albatross Sky Butlers confirmed.

>> No.13763783

>>13763723
Doddler also thinks that Haruka, a game that is 80% H scenes and was voted best nukige, isn't a nukige.

>> No.13763824

>>13763783
Some people view any vn with anything resembling an overarching plot or character development to be a story vn. MG staff don't really consider euphoria a nukige for this reason.

>> No.13763848

>>13763824
And therein we see why their definition of not a nukige is total bullshit and shouldn't be surprised when half of them are just more of MG's signature fuckfest.

>> No.13763854

>>13763568
I wish Nitroplus would just tell Jast to fucking get on with it already.
"Support Jast USA official localization of Nitroplus games" my ass.

>> No.13763863

>>13763854
Support Mangagamer official localization of Alicesoft games.

>> No.13763894

>>13763848
MG announced a good number of nukige earlier in the year. I think they'll focus on games with potential mass appeal now. I'm expecting mostly vns with all-ages versions that they can get on Steam.

>> No.13763902

>>13762209
1. I enjoy things better when I understand what's been said.
2. Some nukige have gameplay, and relying totally on walkthrough kills the joy of playing.

So fuck off with your shit.

>> No.13763909

>>13763894
And you think they don't have even more to come?

>> No.13763914

What's with all the nukige hate in this thread?

They are the purest eroge.

>> No.13763935

>>13763909

Hating on nukige is a fag's errand

Long as it's not morningstar/appetite shit, all is fine. I wouldn't mind some choice clockup titles, for example.

>> No.13763949

OK, when will MG license elf games?

I want the entire -saku series.

>> No.13763953

>>13763824

To be fair both Euphoria and Haruka are outliers in a way. Euphoria is a nukige but it's also got more going on than a traditional nukige so it's sort of in both categories. Haruka, while definitely a nukige, has wider-reaching implications than a regular nukige pickup for MG given the Alice Soft brand.

>> No.13763965

BISHOP.

I want BISHOP.

>> No.13763991

>>13763965
And the Saiminjutsu games.

>> No.13763993

>>13763935
Think they'll ever translate Please R*pe Me!? They might retitle it though. I've heard Please Ravish Me an alternative.

>> No.13763995

>>13763848
The problem stems from the way people use nukige as a derogatory term to just dismiss a game all together, kind of like exactly what you're doing now.

There are good nukige worth of being picked up and bad nukige that aren't just like other eroge subgenres, Haruka and Euphoria fall under the former.

>> No.13764004

>>13763995
Fuck those close-minded fools.

When I get money, I will only buy nukige.

Nukige needs a future in the West, fuck the rest.

>> No.13764007

>>13763723
Are we sure its not just one partner with two titles and not two different partners?

>> No.13764019

>>13764004
Nukige sells better than other genres though.

It's just infamous on the net where people are hipsters.

>> No.13764021

>>13763993

I think sadobu will probably be their next title given that they seem to like targeting new fetishes

>> No.13764029

Why don't they get some OrcSoft titles?

Like: お隣の黒人夫に抱かれて啼き悶える最愛の妻。 その引き換えに味わう黒人妻の肌。 -Big Black Cock & Big Black Butt & My Sweet Wife- ダウンロード版?

Pretty intellectual title.

>> No.13764031

>>13764007

Given doddler's "at least one" and then it suddenly going from 3 announcements to 5, I think it's pretty likely to be two.

>> No.13764033

>>13764007
I don't think that's been confirmed anywhere. But most developers start with one game and see how that does before allowing their other titles to be localized, so it's most likely 2 new partners with one game each.

>> No.13764068

>>13764021
That game might be considered too new, considering the 2 they've released are from 2010 and 2011.

>> No.13764092

>>13764068

NTY is about that old and it happened.

>> No.13764100

>>13764029
Orcsoft is probably too NTR for liking of most MG translators, but Team Goblin's games are about just plain sluts, so I could see that working for them.

>> No.13764103

>>13764100
MG translators need to get off their fucking ass and start doing shit people like.

NTR, especially interracial NTR, is hot shit nowadays.

>> No.13764108

>>13764092
NTY is from their new, unestablished BL brand, not the main one. So far CLOCKUP titles have or plan to be released 4 years after they were released in Japan.

>> No.13764118

>>13764103
Get out, what we need right now are genderbending and trap nukige.

>> No.13764119

>>13764108

Well if they were to announce it at otakon, it'll still take another year and a half to see the light of day. Didn't they announce eroge back in 2012 too?

>> No.13764120

>>13764103
I want a chikan game. I've watched plenty of chikan H-OVA, but I really want to play a vn about it.

>> No.13764127

>>13764118
That's fine too, can always get some titles from this:
https://vndb.org/p2247

>> No.13764138

>>13764127
Hmm, wrong company, that's a doujin circle.

I meant Otoko no Club:
https://vndb.org/p839

>> No.13764151

>>13764138
https://vndb.org/v14443
>The protagonist, Naoki lives alone with his older brother Yuuki. One day Naoki comes home and finds a strange girl there; she is, in fact, Yuuki. It seems that Yuuki has started identifying as a woman. Naoki vows to turn his brother back into a man, but has strange feelings toward female Yuuki.
I want this title.

>> No.13764157

>>13764138
Alright, looking better. I was wondering if you mistook them for somebody else, Otoko no Ko Soft's games didn't seem good at all.

>> No.13764161

Apparently Aroduc's translating Corona for Jast.

>> No.13764166

>>13764161
How is Aroduc working on so many projects?

>> No.13764176

Personally, I hope MG becomes the nukige and gameplay nukige company i.e. Alice Soft, Eushully and Softhouse Chara.

>> No.13764181

>>13764166
He is just exceptionally talented.

>> No.13764201

Are we all just throwing out what niche shit we want?

I want to see mangagamer hook up with https://vndb.org/p3452 and start doing some real lolige with galette's titles. They're all lolige but (minus the latest one) they're not predatory or anything so I think it might be within the line that mangagamer likes to walk.

>> No.13764210

>>13764166
JAST doesn't care if he takes forever to finish them.

>> No.13764304

When will MG translate HRPG maker games?

There's money to be made there.

>> No.13764362

>>13764120
Sadly, all chikan vns I've played are shit. Most of them turn into typical gang rape nukige after one or two molesting scenes. Those who don't put some other bullshit in scenario, like girl suddenly deciding that enjoying molestation is wrong and she better fuck her school boyfriend instead.

>> No.13764380

>>13764362
How about Saishuu Chikan Densha 3? https://vndb.org/v5743

>> No.13764512

How do people feel about protagonist organized netorare? Do you think people who wouldn't normally play netorare games would consider it, since the protagonist is the driving force behind it?

>> No.13764617
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>>13763344>>13763449
That's pretty good rate, going almost as high as christmas sale, but without discount.

>> No.13764631

>>13764380
I'm still stalled at Saishuu Chikan Densha 2.
Heard good things about 3 several times here in jp, but not sure if its not just some meme, as previous two games are not good (usual gang rape stuff).

>> No.13764663

>>13764617
Do those numbers include the edelweiss and Obscene Medical Record copies from the Groupees bundle?

>> No.13764686

>>13764663

Likely yes. Though to be fair, out of 3.7k sales probably half or less actually paid the full ten dollars. Still a pretty significant increase with that in mind.

>> No.13764729

>>13764617

Say, since you keep making these in different threads, would you care to mark the confirmed data points(I assume you still have them) and mark product releases along it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MangaGamer#Product_list

>> No.13764733

>>13764631
>It is now the year 2010. The reprehensible and secret brotherhood known as the Last Molester Train has been driven underground once again, its three year reign of sexual predation extinguished under the militant ultra-feminist organization known as Raven Guard. However all is not yet lost. The Last Molester Train continued to search for a savior who could restore their patriarchy to glory, and at long last that man has been found. Revered under the pseudonym of Zin, this legendary molester defied the Raven Guard and defiled many a lovely flower under their watch. A single careless mistake is all it took catch him… but the brotherhood will not let a comrade-in-arms fall so easily.

The protagonist trains the heroines, then brings them aboard the Last Molester Train. The protagonist is a very prominent figure though, so it's not primarily a gang rape game.

>> No.13764738

>>13764729
Do it yourself.

>> No.13764739

Do you guys think Maria and Good Haro have boyfriends?

>> No.13764752

>>13764739
They go to the supermarket and get cucumbers.

>> No.13764757

>>13764739
Good Haro has a black dildo the size of a fist that she's named Papa Smurf.

>> No.13764759

>>13764738

Post the data points and I'll do it

>> No.13764766

>>13764757

If it's a black dildo, why would you call it a smurf

>> No.13764774

>>13762279
>Umineko's pretty universally liked, dude.
No it isn't. Even the Japanese hated it. I think you're confusing "universally liked" with "liked" on reddit. Remember what kind of site reddit is. Buncha "circlejerking" and shit taste.

>> No.13764782

>>13764766
You don't know much about smurf dicks.

>> No.13764785

>>13764774

Saleswise umineko is going to trash almost every other mangagamer title via name recognition and steampower, "liked" or not.

>> No.13764788

>>13764774
I remember the Japanese rating it lower and lower as more chapters came out.

>> No.13764817

>>13764663
They include everything sold through MG site directly after site restart.
>>13764729
Datapoints: http://pastebin.com/02St8TjC

Mark them on chart? Well, yes, that's possible.

>> No.13764818

>>13764785
Yeah, more power to localize nukige, good for everyone involved.

>> No.13764841

>>13764733
It has the 3 things that apparently give games good sales potential: gameplay mechanic, ero heavy, and H-OVA.

>> No.13764862

>>13762722
so are all of the "translations" aside from the original games and the fandisc like this? I heard that tda was getting retranslated, but that may have been code for "editing fake translations into better english."

>> No.13764867

>>13764841
You cannot really call that kind of stuff "gameplay". If anything, its just annoying how it interrupts flow of scenes.

>> No.13764896

http://forums.mangagamer.org/viewtopic.php?p=15335#p15335
As every sane person suspected, Alicesoft never offered Rance 6, original Arunaru comment referred to older non-rance game vs newer non-rance game.

>> No.13764907
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>>13764867
Forbidden Love With My Wife's Sister has interactivity incorporated into the ero scenes, so if that sells decently, then other titles with similar mechanics could be more possible.

>> No.13764934

>>13764739
maria is supposedly pure and untouched. No idea about GH, though.

>> No.13764947

Is doddler pure?

>> No.13764950

>>13764947
He's on Canada's sex offenders list, so no.

>> No.13764953

>>13764950
2d doesn't count.

>> No.13765003

>>13764953
In Canada, it actually does.

>> No.13765039

>>13764953
He also fucks moose.

>> No.13765075

>>13764774
Nice meme, bro. Because Reddit totally invented circlejerking. Don't act like this board is any better.

>> No.13765079

>>13762279
Even /jp/ on the whole is a big fan of Umineko.

>> No.13765083

>>13764896
Why the fuck wasn't Arunaru more clear about this? I thought he was a smarter person.

>> No.13765092

>>13765083
Because whether he admits it or not, he's part of the Maria dicksucking brigade and would never go against her word.

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>>13764759

Well freehand marking it didn't quite really produce anything interesting afterall.

>> No.13765116

>>13765075
At least this board doesn't have a rating system.

>> No.13765323

>>13764896
I don't think anyone believed that in the first place.

But I also don't think anyone thinks that Mangagamer don't prefer Haruka to VI

>> No.13765405

>>13765116
I wish it did, then I could downvote the fuck out of all those people talking about semen and what not. Shitpost and be made invisible, it's brilliant.

>> No.13765412

>>13765092
Uh, but the information he gave went directly against Maria in the first place. So he DID go against her word, even though he was fucking wrong. Just to create some retarded drama.

>> No.13765621

>>13765412
Where was he actually wrong?

And for all we know he's changing his story because he got told off

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>> No.13765685

All the hatred toward Haruka is really unwarranted.

It's a new translation of an old, demanded game. I welcome it with open arms.

>> No.13765722

>>13765685
is there an real hatred towards it?
Only that it's delayed Rance VI

>> No.13765749

>>13765722
That's the main cause of it.

>> No.13765753

>>13765749
well Rance VI is a superior game.

>> No.13765799

>>13765753
Haruka is the superior nukige.

>> No.13765805

>>13765799
correct

If what you want is a nukige then you have no reason to be unhappy.

If you didn't want a nukige and wanted Rance VI I have no idea why you would be happy with getting Haruka instead and nearly a year later at that

>> No.13765855

>>13765805
Because you'd be (eventually) getting Rance VI officially, generally if you're a big fan of things you want to show your support of them and own it.

I always find it so weird on the "otaku" board that there are people who are so anti-consumerist, the amount of people who even own a single Touhou game are probably a tiny minority. I get that people like free stuff and this is the internet but it just baffles me.

>> No.13765893

>>13765855
Eventually is a long and not even confirmed time.

But really the only reason people could possibly be unhappy about a game they expected to be able to play next month being indefinitely delayed for years could only be because of the fact that they have to pay for it.

And Haruka really doesn't have anything to do with Rance at all. They just happen to both be made by the same company.

Completely different game aimed at a different target audience.

>> No.13765928

I hope Sekai gets Cutie Bullet now that they're partnered with Akabei Soft. It's perfect for them.

>> No.13765990

>>13762339
Out of curiosity, how would you say "come home with these chopsticks?"

>> No.13765995

>>13765651
Hahahahaha. FUCK.

>> No.13766000

>>13765995
Wonder if it'll be Noah.

>> No.13766038

>>13765855

Our concerns are not anti-consumerist in nature at all. Everything that has been released officially could also be pirated so cost is not really an issue.

The issues as I see them are:

1) VN Translation moving from an fan/volunteer basis to a for-profit basis has resulted in huge delays to releases. Many titles have been or were in limbo for years (see JAST projects).

2) Japanese companies seem to have adopted "hostage-taking" business practices. Buy DMC4 Special Edition if you want DMC5. Buy Haruka if you want Rance VI. The IPs that we want are getting substituted with depreciated and near value-less (from a business perspective) IPs and are being sold under threat.

Worse, if we actually go along with this, we also send the message "Nukige sells" rather than "we want Rance VI". So we're sort of fucked either way.

3) We have not seen substantial quality improvements for the dollars spent. While progress was made, many of MGs earlier translations were basically unreadable. Many other releases do not rise to the level of a commercial translation and are just a repackaging of the fan translation. If our money is not getting invested in the quality of the product, why should we buy it, rather than the original copy + the fan translation?

4) There may be consequences when Western Revenue outgrows Japanese revenue. When creating scenarios, characters, etc-- currently, we aren't really a factor. Sometimes changes are made post-production (removal of H-scenes, etc), but if we become a big enough market player, they will be made before the story is even written. While obviously this won't affect small publishers, if there's enough money here, stories may be written with us in mind.

5) If every project ends up being corporate the overall health of the scene of fan translations dies. See what happened to the anime scene after it went corporate. Many sub groups are gone. Our options are now more limited. This is sort of happening already to VN scene.

>> No.13766049

>>13766038
>2) Japanese companies seem to have adopted "hostage-taking" business practices.

That is literally just Capcom. People are exaggerating about Alicesoft when we haven't even seen it yet.

>> No.13766073

>>13766038
> rather than the original copy
Yeah, as if crybabies like you would ever buy original copy. Stop pretending like you are consumer, you are just filthy criminal.

>> No.13766078

>>13766049
It's certainly how Mangagamer have acted

>> No.13766081

>>13766038
>4) There may be consequences when Western Revenue outgrows Japanese revenue. When creating scenarios, characters, etc-- currently, we aren't really a factor. Sometimes changes are made post-production (removal of H-scenes, etc), but if we become a big enough market player, they will be made before the story is even written. While obviously this won't affect small publishers, if there's enough money here, stories may be written with us in mind.

I really hope this doesn't happen. Even you EOPs on 4chan are already cancerous with some sensibilities, but if VN creators start to pander to retards on Steam and Mangagamer forums, we're doomed.

But I'm not afraid it would happen. Japanese costumers would destroy any company that would go full retard like that.

>> No.13766085

>>13766078
They're just trying to make money. They don't actually mean it. This isn't fucking Sekai Project here.

>> No.13766086

>>13766078
No, its certainly not. They negotiated best title they could.

>> No.13766094

>>13766081
Yes, that's biggest reason why I hate Sekai Project.
We already have frontwing making their new game all-ages first, with h-scenes being only patch addon. I'm sure they told Fujisaki to tone down his shit and write for 9 year olds as main audience. Kuyashiiii

>> No.13766102

>>13766086
Which they did. But their public comments (at least Maria and Arunaru's initial comments) where all about how buying Haruka was the only way to get Rance

>> No.13766114

>>13766081
>Japanese costumers

Kotori Minami?

>> No.13766284

Good Haro, fix the fucking colors on your Funimation anime. View -> Renderer Settings -> Output Range -> 16-235. That's literally all you have to do.

>> No.13766349

Those lads over on /vn/ are tip top scallywags to be honest jaypee.

>> No.13766368

>>13766073

Uh, dude, like I have a lot of money. Money is pretty immaterial. I've actually thought about commissioning a VN translation.

Despite my best attempts to be a NEET it never happened.

>> No.13766370

>>13766284
This option is always greyed out for me for some reason.

>> No.13766418

>>13766370
Never heard of that. Do you have the latest CCCP?

>> No.13766420

>>13766418
It's probably because of LAV and madvr, I can adjust that there.

>> No.13766448

>>13766038
>1) VN Translation moving from an fan/volunteer basis to a for-profit basis has resulted in huge delays to releases.

I don't think it's a good idea to compare the fan community to anyone for timeliness on releases. Even JAST will eventually get their games out.

>2) Japanese companies seem to have adopted "hostage-taking" business practices. Buy DMC4 Special Edition if you want DMC5. Buy Haruka if you want Rance VI. The IPs that we want are getting substituted with depreciated and near value-less (from a business perspective) IPs and are being sold under threat.

I'm going to have to disagree, Haruka is not 'near value-less'... it's one of Alicesofts best selling games, and is arguably the smarter choice of product to release given their demographics.

>3) We have not seen substantial quality improvements for the dollars spent. While progress was made, many of MGs earlier translations were basically unreadable. Many other releases do not rise to the level of a commercial translation and are just a repackaging of the fan translation.

What recent releases pray tell haven't been to the level of a 'commercial translation'? I'm actually very curious.

> See what happened to the anime scene after it went corporate. Many sub groups are gone. Our options are now more limited. This is sort of happening already to VN scene.

What options were there that we no longer have? If your desire is to see more translated games, the current situation is preferable.

>> No.13766457

>>13766448
>What options were there that we no longer have?

There's always the one.

>> No.13766524

>>13766038
The anime scene is fine. Who cares about fan translation groups if translations are more freely and quickly available then ever? I only wish VNs could ever reach such a state.

>> No.13766553

>>13766524
I feel the same way. Unfortunately when it comes to VNs we've really only got one small company on the scene that we can remotely rely on (MangaGamer), and so many VNs out there to translate. Maybe someday Sekai Project will get their shit together like MG did and we'll have another one, but it's not looking great so far.

My only disappointment with the anime scene is Funi is always in this fierce competition with Crunchyroll and handles their stuff a lot worse. But at the same time they're still a lot more reliable than fansubbers.

>> No.13766602

>>13766553
>>13766524
You could always learn Japanese and free yourself instead of waiting for a state that'll never come.

What you need is persistence, not even that much free time every day.

>> No.13766611

>>13766602
In the time it takes to learn more Japanese I could be playing a bunch of translated video games and watching a bunch of translated anime. There's plenty to do as it is. I've already memorized hiragana and katakana long ago anyway, that's all I really need.

>> No.13766625

>>13766611
Then you should also stop whining about so many VNs out there to translate. Be ready to realize you'll never get them.

>> No.13766631

>>13766625
It's okay, I'll be happy with Dies Irae, Baldr Sky, Muramasa, Albatross, and Bullet Butlers. Also Albatross Sky Butlers.

>> No.13766784

>>13764617
Here's a few more because why not, and I'll post the numbers when I buy Sweet Sweat when it becomes available.

033030, 2015-05-09
026234, 2015-02-20

>> No.13766925

Far as I can tell, people only hate on Umineko because they're transphobic, anyway.

>> No.13766952

>>13766553
I don't know who translated the Shingeki no Kyojin anime, but I was pissed off when they kept changing the spelling of the characters throughout the anime.

>> No.13766954

>>13765621
How would he know what was even said at the negotiations? It was probably one big telephone game, where the staff talked to each other, but the exact details got distorted as they made their rounds among the staff.

>> No.13766983

>>13766954
So why'd he try to speak as if he knew what was going on? What a retard.

>> No.13766986

>>13766081
Isn't that what happened with Chrono Clock?

>> No.13766990

>>13766102
If a company's first localization doesn't sell well, they'll not likely want to localize any more, much less their most famous series.

>> No.13766992

>>13766986
That's only speculation. Maybe dovac/steam affected it to some extent, maybe not.

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>>13766952
That's more the fault of the official spellings not coming out until midway through the show. So the translator guessed at what it was and ended up being wrong because non-Japanese names often have stupid official spellings. Sometimes the translator changes midway through too, though, I think, and that can also account for it.

>> No.13766997

>>13766448
For commercial translation quality and repackaging fan translation games, I think anon is referring to most of Sekai Project's releases. Starless from JAST was in serious need of editing at launch as well.

>> No.13766999

>>13766993
River → Liver

(; ̄Д ̄)

>> No.13767002

>>13766992
More like a certainty. Chrono Clock is so damn new that Sekai Project was negotiating for it while it was in development. On one hand, it IS cool to see a new VN translated so quickly, but when it's compromised by Sekai Project? Tsk.

>> No.13767003

>>13766999
I really don't understand that one. Dude has water powers, why the fuck wouldn't he be named River?

At least Esdeath is a great name.

>> No.13767007

>>13767002
NekoPara was negotiated while in development too, but dovac didn't affect game itself.

>> No.13767015

>>13767007
True, because that's a better company that was like "Fuck you" when he tried to interfere. These Purple Software folks don't have the same dignity.

>> No.13767041

>>13766631
What's with some people grouping random game like Bullet Butlers with kamige like Dies Irae, Baldr sky, Murasaka now? Some kind of meme?

>> No.13767086

>>13767041
Bullet Butlers is actually one of those really good games nobody talks about in the English community, like Himawari. A fellow kamige, if that's the terminology that's up your alley. A few of us have been spreading it around so people aren't taken completely by surprise when MangaGamer gets it. I do not want another situation where some idiot calls it no-name.

>> No.13767093

>>13767041
Propeller makes some good story vns, and people probably view it as more likely to get licensed.

>> No.13767109

>>13767086
Well, Propeller's Ayakashibito has a fantranslation, so I'm sure the studio has at least been heard of. If MG could get the PSP version of that on Steam, I'm sure it'd sell well. Their newer title line-up is very promising as well.

>> No.13767119

So. Most people seem to agree that Chrono Clock is decidedly mediocre, which makes me wonder. Is there anything by Purple that's actually pretty good? What would be a good thing by them that Sekai Project could pick up?

>> No.13767142

>>13767119
Hapymaher is good but SP couldn't take all the sex out so they probably don't want it.

>> No.13767148

>>13767086
> like Himawari. A fellow kamige
Nice trolling.

BB is usual propeller stuff. If you enjoyed Ayakashibito, you will also enjoy BB, but don't expect anything too "deep". Its at least tier below kamige.

>> No.13767167

>>13767119
Besides Hatsukoi Sacrament, Purple Software doesn't have any other games with all-ages versions new enough to localize. Sekai Project will have to create all-ages versions themselves, which won't be as simple as Chrono Clock, which only had them after the main story.

>> No.13767198

Good thing about nobody knowing Himawari is that they won't have hyped the shit out of it like they have for Subahibi. So a bunch of people are about to be pleasantly surprised.

>> No.13767206

>>13767148
Implying a game has to be "deep" to be a kamige.

>> No.13767217

>>13767206
Kamige implies game is not just solid and good, but outstanding, dwarfing everything else released.

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>>13767167
Think they'd do Hatsukoi Sacrament?

>> No.13767228

>>13767217
Indeed, like Bullet Butlers. So you do understand.

>> No.13767233

>>13767167
I don't think Hatsukoi Sacrament has an all-ages version either, the only all-ages listing on its VNDB is the trial version, which isn't 18+ for obvious reasons.

>> No.13767237

>>13767228
BB is just good. It didn't have any long-standing impact and everything it does was already done elsewhere.
Really, do you think whole "heroes aren't actually saints" shit is now kamige or what?

>> No.13767248

>>13767237
>everything it does was already done elsewhere.

Oh really, motherfucker? Name examples. Shit, I wonder just what you think long-standing impact is.

>> No.13767249

>>13767219
If they want to the backlash from them censoring games just to get them on Steam, then yes. Then again, some people called the Vita version of Grisaia censored, even though that was an existing version. Sekai just wants to be able to say they're not responsible for the censorship.

>> No.13767257

>>13767249
Do they really? Because there's no all ages version of G-Senjou no Maou, and yet here they are, chopping it up.

I really don't think that's what would stop them.

>> No.13767261

>>13767249
There's no existing all-ages version of Chrono Clock either.

>> No.13767264

>>13767248
> Name examples.
Sakurai's Sharnoth for example.

>> No.13767267

>>13767257
I don't know about other Purple Software games, but it would be kind of hard to make an all-ages game out of Hapymaher and it probably wouldn't be worth playing.

>>13767261
Those scenes were pretty much designed to be disposable and just tacked on as extras anyway, though. Not quite the same.

>> No.13767269

>>13767257
The fantranslators created an all-ages patch, so it's technically not Sekai's doing.

>>13767261
There's no ero in the main story, it just unlocked after it was finished, so they can say they aren't cutting anything from the main story and it's true.

>> No.13767285

>>13767269
> The fantranslators created an all-ages patch, so it's technically not Sekai's doing.
1. Hire fan translators to cut content
2. "license" their work
3. Pretend that it was fan translators decision and they had no control over it
Here, perfect solution to censorship of any game.

>> No.13767291

>>13767267
Well, people will buy anything on Steam. Perhaps Denpasoft can release the 18+ version?

>> No.13767295

>>13767291
So far despite all the promises denpasoft "released" only nekopara, which you could already buy from dlsite.

>> No.13767302

>>13767291
I still don't think they'd put in the effort to butcher it into all-ages, it's not nearly as simple a job as any of the other all-ages stuff they've released.

>> No.13767304

>>13767285
Unless the original developer doesn't want content removed from their games. And some games just wouldn't be the same after the ero is removed, like Hapymaher.

Someone seriously asked MG if they could release an all-ages version of euphoria.

>> No.13767311

>>13767304
Just you watch, one of these days someone actually is going to do an all ages version of a title that people are like "There's no WAY they can make this all ages" for. Best part is, it'll sell.

>> No.13767319

>>13767311
Not if they can just keep going after stuff that already has an all-ages version to use, and considering that they usually just go for the most popular titles ever with console ports this'll keep happening, with the occasional oddball PC game like Chrono Clock with no ero in the main plot.

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Here, I asked him about the science adventure game I care the most about and he just said this. R;N confirmed.

>> No.13767346

>>13767228
Bullet Butlers has a cool setting and amazing fights, but it's definitely not timeless classic material. It's pretty much run-off-a-mill lightly political noir story done right (except for the excruciatingly boring sol bits). It's solid, and achieves what it sets off to (being an entertaining action vn) but it's not exactly mind-blowing if you've read your chuuni, including other Higashide's works.

I'd still understand if you argued for Ayakashibito or Tokyo Babel being kamige; those two at least explore actual folklore/mythology and offer some fodder for your mind with a couple of fairly complex characters / concepts (along with having all the same strengths of BB).

>> No.13767375

>>13767346
Bullet Butlers has a protagonist named Rick Arrowsmith.

>> No.13767389

>>13767375
Yeah, the least interesting of propeller's protagonists.

>> No.13767393

>>13767389
But Arrowsmith.

>> No.13767404

Didn't an anon post some time ago a tweet about Purple software saying something about adult content if their games were to be localized?

>> No.13767408

>>13767404
Oh yeah, I remember that.

>> No.13767411

>>13767393
W-Well, in that case I'd still go with Alfred. ww

>> No.13767430

Man, I was thinking about how I wish they'd translate more stuff by the Hanachirasu guy because Hanachirasu's writing is like, exactly what I wanted. It was perfect for me. And then I look him up and I see his only other thing is Muramasa. So that's why people want Muramasa so much. It's the only other thing this brilliant man has written. Shit, I hope it happens someday.

>> No.13767447

>>13767311
You mean Nekopara?

>> No.13767451

>>13767447
I suppose it applies. People were insisting it wouldn't work, then after it came out they were like "Well uh...shit." and pretended like they never said that.

>> No.13767468

>>13767430
He was only experimenting / testing waters with Hanachirasu. Then he went all out on Muramasa.

>> No.13767473

>>13767430
Legends say he's actually an instructor of old style sword fighting himself.

Btw Muramasa itself is worth learning Japanese for.

>> No.13767477

>>13767468
Considering Hanachirasu's absurd quality despite that, I have to assume that the reason he's done nothing after Muramasa is because writing such an incredible magnum opus has rendered him comatose.

>> No.13767515

>>13767451
To be fair, an all-ages version of what appears to basically be an extension of some short H comics done by a doujin circle really does seem pretty stupid, and there wasn't an already existing game to form that judgment off of. It's a bit different when people are talking about an existing 18+ games they're familiar with.

>> No.13767530

>>13765651
Who's ask.fm is this?

>> No.13767546

>>13767530
Reading Rainbow.

>> No.13767602

>>13767546
I apologize for my typo, anon.

>> No.13767659

>>13767530
Reading Steiner's.

>> No.13767694

>>13767404
https://archive.moe/jp/thread/13343312/#13363507
Quote below:

石川泰 @purple_ishikawa ・ 4月12日
ねこパラの成功を見ていると海外への活路も考えていかないといけない時期なのかも。
現地の人が読んで不自然にならないレベルの翻訳が出来る人は限られるし、
翻訳料は下手したらゼロからシナリオ書くより掛かるかもなぁ。
アダルト要素は抜く前提の構成もいるし難しい。
しょぼいゲーム作り続けて市場とユーザー潰しくさって
一般行きます海外で売りますて頭おかしいのかこのクリエイター気取り共は

>What the fuck, not only they think SP's translation was not "unnaturally sounding trash", they also think they cannot find translators and distributors if they keep it 18+.
Dovac, please die ASAP.

>> No.13767732

>>13767694
Well, it's been said that Japanese developers don't understand the English localization scene. The question is, is this their own misunderstanding, or is Sekai Project telling them a ton of misinformation to get the all-ages licenses?

>> No.13767743

Does people really want to read Dies Irae or it's a meme ? Because it looks like shit. Typical chuunige with boring plot and bland characters.

>> No.13767758

>>13767743
All kamige are overhyped. They are usually good games, but if you don't like a certain genre to begin with, would you enjoy a great example of it? Maybe not. Then there's the issue when the game is completely different from what you were imagining. I'm expecting kamige enthusiasm to die down when more come out and don't live up to peoples expectations.

>> No.13767777

>>13767602
I was making a joke about his name while answering you. It's what >>13767659
said. I should have considered that it sounded like I was insulting you because I am also that paranoid myself.

To be fair, you can just google search the text in the question and it brings up the page just fine. That's how I found it.

>> No.13767784

>>13767777
Next time you cap the question, cap the person's username too.

>> No.13767786

>>13767743
1) Stop this "chuunige" shit, that's an even worse meme. God forbid people enjoy badass fantasy stuff where you don't actually have to talk like you're in the real world and you can yell attack names which are in random German and stuff.

2) How would you know it has a "boring plot" and "bland characters" if you haven't actually played it? That just sounds like a bad trolling attempt.

>> No.13767788

>>13767784
That's an invasion of privacy, so I can't do that.

>> No.13767793

>>13767732
Such a misunderstanding could easily be cleared up by just about anyone else telling them what's actually going on, since this isn't fucking North Korea. So I highly doubt it's Sekai Project's own fault, for once.

>> No.13767796

>>13767743
>chuunige
This is proof that it's going to be a lot of fun to read it. What more do you need?

>> No.13767834

>>13767786
But it's not your usual fantasy stuff when it's about gay characters with stupid haircut yelling german gibberish.
Besides it's been hyped for his poetry and beautiful storytelling with difficult kanjis but it's impossible to find these things when it's translated by a translator who isn't japanese native.

>> No.13767842

>>13767743
You know what i want to read ?
Aiyoku no fucking Eustia. Don't disappoint me MG.

>> No.13767860

>>13767834
Are you kidding? That's exactly what my fantasies are.

Also that is entirely subjective.

>> No.13767877

What do you think the inevitable Root Double kickstarter's goal will be? Think the Xtend Edition will be a stretch goal? The way Sekai kept saying more news at Otakon for most of the panel has me wary.

>> No.13767883

>>13767834
As long as someone like Gare does the translation I think it will be fine.

>> No.13767884

>>13767842
I'll remember you and then when it's not one of the titles, I'll laugh at you, English Only Friend.

>> No.13767935

>>13767877
Dovac himself actually posted his goal here a few threads back.

>> No.13767949

>>13767935
Thanks. I'll have to take a look at the archives then.

>> No.13767989

>>13767659
I thought it was lemnisca who translated steins;gate and some different people who translated chaos;head. Who's this guy?

>> No.13768017

>>13767989
No idea, to be honest. But people are treating him like he's important so I assume he is.

>> No.13768105

>>13767989
I think Blick Winkel did the S;G patch but this is the guy JAST had look over the script for them.

>> No.13768225
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>> No.13768265

>>13768225
Soon, Beato. Soon.

>> No.13768274

>>13767694
That's my post yet I completely forgot about it.
Well, then, dovac ruining japanese games confirmed.

>> No.13768335
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Well there's something that can taken a few ways.

>> No.13768336

>>13768225
What is it that you are waiting for?

>> No.13768376

>>13768335
Calling Hadaka Shitsuji. That's be hilarious.

>> No.13768398

>>13768376
It's an obvious fake out referencing Bullet Butlers but actually talking about Hadaka Hitsuji. But it's so obvious it might be a double fake out and she's talking about Bullet Butlers after all. Shit, where's my tinfoil hat?

>> No.13768404

>>13768335
PLEASE MARRY ME GOOD HARO I WANT TO RUN MY HANDS THROUGH YOUR GINGER HAIR PLS

>> No.13768409

>>13768376

That's my assumption as well. A bit disappointing since that means both new partners are accounted for, but it would be a victory well-deserved for her.

>> No.13768421

Is there a proper video anywhere of the AX MG panel?

>> No.13768773

>>13768398
>>13768335
The real meaning is clear. Albatross Sky Butlers confirmed.

>>13767842
>Aiyoku no fucking Eustia. Don't disappoint me MG.
If you want the 'no fucking' version, you'll need to ask Sekai Project.

>> No.13768778

>>13767935
>>13767949
You guys don't seriously believe dovac posts here, do you? I don't want to think VNTS posters are this dumb, but I've seen ironic shitposting lose its irony so many times now...

>> No.13768806

>>13768778
Dovac, pls.
You confirmed yourself on twitter that your tripcoded posts were indeed yours. Now we are to believe that you actually "left" after numerous times you promised you would also stop posting on twitter, yet kept coming back?

>> No.13768828

>>13768778
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/620700786599661568 in response to >>13768274
Now tell me again that you don't post here.

>> No.13768892

>>13768806
>>13768828
Considering a lot of posts supposedly by dovac are by me, I highly doubt it. There recently was a guy claiming to be dovac but he was obviously a troll.

>> No.13768972

>>13768828
>I guess bringing people what they ask for is ruining now a days huh.

Holy shit, Dovac haters on suicide watch.

>> No.13768975

>>13768892
It's not just mindless speculation. He stopped using his trip (see >>/jp/?task=search2&search_tripcode=!!KYLP0%2FampnO)) after saying some particularly stupid shit, but it's likely that he's still around, given his reactions. Perhaps you're the one who should educate yourself?

>> No.13768980

>>13768892
>Considering a lot of posts supposedly by dovac are by me
That's because you are Dovac.

>> No.13768984

>>13768828
The best time was before he temporarily disabled his twitter. Oh boy, did the posts here get him. It was fucking drama everywhere.

>> No.13768985

I just had an idea guys.

What if we take Dovac
and push him somewhere else?

>> No.13769001

>>13768984

it was funnier when the SP guys who got fired from MG came in and threw a tantrum because someone suggested they didn't know Japanese

>> No.13769030

>>13768975
I am well aware. But I'm pretty sure the pressure from his colleagues is enough to stop him from posting on /jp/. I have no doubt he's still reading the threads (or at least having some posts pointed out to him), but I doubt he's stupid enough to still post here.

>>13768980
Where is my kickstarter money? I could use some right now.

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>>13769030
>I doubt he's stupid enough to still post here.

>> No.13769045

>>13769030
> But I'm pretty sure the pressure from his colleagues is enough to stop him from posting on /jp/. I have no doubt he's still reading the threads (or at least having some posts pointed out to him), but I doubt he's stupid enough to still post here.
Did you see his latest fit on vndb? He's incurable attention whore.

>> No.13769543

>>13768376
The existing fantranslation makes that unlikely. Most yaoi fans would've played it already.

>> No.13769686

>>13768985
I like this reference and I also like the idea.

>> No.13769714

>>13768376
>>13768409
Would they really hype up all these totally new games just to get a game that's already fan translated? That would be kind of dumb.

>> No.13769738

>>13769714

Fandisk isn't

>> No.13769746

That and, Doddler said no nukige, and Hadaka Shitsuji is a nukige. "Remember, no nukige." - Doddler. We're getting some legitimate games, so it's either actually Bullet Butlers or there's some other game with butlers that they could be picking up. Anyone got any ideas?

>> No.13769755

>>13769738
Feh, as if they'd translate a fandisk without the game itself.

>> No.13769765

>>13769738
Why would they license the fandisc of a game they haven't released?

>> No.13769791

>>13769746
https://vndb.org/v11726 or https://vndb.org/v14061

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>>13769746
Just like euphoria's not a nukige.

>> No.13769933

>>13769823
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

>> No.13769944

>>13769933
I'm guessing that he's trying to say we should take Doddler's "no nukige" statement with a grain of salt.

>> No.13769947

>>13769823
They already announced so many nukige titles early in the con season, they were saving their story titles for AX and Otakon.

>> No.13770002

I'm bothered that Bullet Butlers keeps getting mentioned. Anyone doing it isn't doing it because it's actually a great story, but because it's likely going to be announced and they want to pretend there was some hype or interest in it. There isn't and really wouldn't be. It would be like saying we were excited to receive Dengeki Stryker.

Baldr Sky
Dies Irae
Aiyoku no Eustia
Muramasa
White Album
Kimi Nozo
Rui Tomo
OreTsuba

These are all titles that would have hype behind them. There are other titles that still have actual interest behind them, like 46+1, Giga moege, JQV, anything from the ";" series, the upcoming title from Minato Soft with Tanaka on it, hell, even Saihate no Ima would probably make the cut.

But Bullet Butlers is not there. It's probably only being mentioned because it has been acquired. There is not exactly a lot of excitement behind it so please stop astroturfing it.

>> No.13770080

>>13769944
Euphoria wasn't announced by him saying "We won't be announcing any nukige" and then announcing Euphoria.

>> No.13770086

>>13770002
>Giga moege
Er, is there really hype behind those? Giga moege aren't good even by moege standards. Unless you're talking about Maruto's games, but those aren't really moege.

>> No.13770106

>>13770002
That would be pretty funny if it actually did get announced considering I completely made up the rumor about the partnership with Propeller. It would feel like I caused it even though it would be a complete coincidence.

Also I was pretty excited about Dengeki Stryker, though I didn't know it existed beforehand.

>> No.13770117

>>13769791
Somehow I get the impression that Good Haro wouldn't be very excited about these, compared to Bullet Butlers.

>> No.13770140

>>13770086
I don't know about hype, but I'd totally play any Giga moege.

>> No.13770149

>>13770002

Can't blame me, I shot that bullshit down back at >>13763484

>> No.13770173

>>13770002
Ugh... don't group crap like Rui Tomo with masterpieces, man.

Bullet Butlers and other propeller games, while not quite Muramasa, are still top-tier action visual novels widely respected in Japan. If there is no hype for them in the west, then there should be.

And you deserve a punch in the face for just comparing them to Dengeki Stryker, sir!

>> No.13770228

I'm looking for some translated visual novels with female MCs, they can be about anything but romantic options of any kind are preferred. Can I get any recommendations?

>> No.13770240

>>13770228

Hatoful. Date some fucking pigeons.

>> No.13770262

>>13770173

Well, I was listing what there would be excitement for, not exactly what I considered the best or most desired.

Something that I think would be really cool would be to translate any game that is extremely current (i.e. get it out within the same year or close enough to its release in Japan). Especially if a partnership could be made pre-release so that the terms for western sales are already baked into agreements.

Even the announcement of that kind of project would generate substantial hype and it'd be cool if any of these partnerships for buying old IPs ever turned into that kind of arrangement.

>> No.13770268

>>13770228
Shikkoku no Sharnoth has a pretty good translation and the protagonist is a moe heterochromatic Agatha Christie.

>> No.13770298

>>13770262
Isn't this exactly what's happening with Chrono Clock?

>> No.13770336

>>13770262
Isn't Himawari kinda like that? The remake hasn't been released in Japan yet either.

http://prot.co.jp/psv/himawari/index.html

>> No.13770347

>>13770298
>>13770336
Shit, son. It's already happening after all. VNs have come far since the old days of waiting 10 years for Tsukihime to be translated.

>> No.13770367

>>13770347
It only took six years for Tsukihime to be translated, Chrono Clock is having the ero content removed and Himawari is a port of an eight year old game.

>> No.13770415

>>13770367
Well, it's a start.

>> No.13770438

>>13770367
Well, by that logic Rance01 is a port of a fifteen years old game, too. ><

I admit it would be pretty cool to hear about a worldwide release of a completely new title, but I also wager 9 out of 10 it'd turn out to be garbage like Chrono Clock anyway.

At least we know Himawari is good.

>> No.13770468

>>13770262
>>13770438
Uh, this happened for Nekopara as well, by the way. I think it's just gonna get more and more common.

>> No.13770715

>>13770468
Nekopara vol.2 when?

>> No.13770723

>>13770715
Tomorrow.

Source: I'm Dovac.

>> No.13770835

>>13770723

But I'm dovac

>> No.13770836

>>13768828
I think it's pretty cowardly for him to condescendingly acknowledge the drama but to not actually explain what it's about. That's probably because if he did, he's the only one who would look like an asshole and he can't have that.

Though I have to wonder why, with all the people here criticizing him, nobody steps up and straight up replies to him on Twitter so that all his followers can see why he's a shitlord. I'd do it myself but since I've made this post you'd know it's me and I have no intention of revealing my identity to the morons of this thread.

>> No.13770839

>>13770835
No, I'M Walter Kovacs! Uh, I mean, Spartacus.

>> No.13770841

http://mangagamerstaff.tumblr.com/post/124038930274/i-was-wondering-if-there-was-any-difference-in-the

>There was actually a slight miscommunication when the PR was being written for the game in the chaos before Anime Expo––the version of Himawari we’re releasing is Frontwing’s all-ages remake. There is no 18+ edition of this version of the game. The contents of our release and the Japanese release should be identical aside from text being in English.

>> No.13770851

>>13770841
That's fine. There are games where sex is relevant, this isn't one.

>pepple

>> No.13770852

>>13770841
I'm not even sure if it's possible to buy the Japanese r18 version anymore, so I don't see that as a problem.

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>>13770852
You can buy it on all these sites.

>> No.13770875

>>13770835
>>13770723
Wait, you guys finally had me convinced I'm dovac. What the hell guys?

>> No.13770879

>>13770874
They're trying so hard to make it seem okay because it's MangaGamer, don't make it harder for them.

>> No.13770891

>>13770841
The characters in game say their age. They're all underage so I'm not sure how MG would release the adult version without potentially getting in trouble.

>> No.13770893

>>13770879
It IS okay though. Just how would they bring those scenes over when it's a completely new game? The art wouldn't even be consistent. What, you want them to just port the text over or something? It would just be a black screen with text on it.

>> No.13770898

Question: Why do they always show Jews doing that thing with their hands? What is that supposed to represent?

>> No.13770913

>>13770893
Short of actual penetration, the text is pretty much preserved in the AA game already (at least it was in the PSP version).

>> No.13770917

>>13770002
> But Bullet Butlers is not there
> titles that still have actual interest behind them, like 46+1, Giga moege
Fucking EOPs. While I did state numerous times here that BB is not kamige, it still several leagues ahead of trash like chusingura or giga moege. How the fuck you would even arrive at this retarded suggestion?

>> No.13770936

>>13770879
Its okay, everyone who has brains knew that 18+ is impossible (completely new art and all-ages only voice staff) from the beginning and we nigged GH to revise that statement ASAP.

>> No.13770944

>>13770936
If the new version isn't rewritten from the original couldn't they just port the translation to the original and translate the ero there? I'm sure they don't want to because money, but it would mean the same options as the Japanese releases.

>> No.13770950

>>13770944
What part of "all-ages only voice staff" you didn't understand? They don't work for ero games, period. Its in contract and pulling off shit like that will ruin your reputation in Japan completely.

>> No.13770964

>>13770950
Since the original doesn't have any voice either, I wasn't suggesting they port that.

>> No.13770995

>>13770841

That's disappointing

>> No.13771000

>>13770913
What's up with that? "All ages" games having sex? I find it weird that I could show sex to my daughter since it is all ages.

>> No.13771002

>>13770995
I mean, if you're playing Himawari for the h and not the plot, you shouldn't be playing Himawari. You're looking for MG's other major pickup, Beat Blades Haruka.

>> No.13771008

"Always fell asleep when reading visual novel.

But the story of this game bring me back! to sleep again lol

Great story. Feeling creepy even there's no picture but only from reading.

Looking forward to next chapter.

8/10. -2 for always make me sleepy(by reading not for story)."

Higurashi Steam review.

>> No.13771009

>>13771008
creepy and sleepy

>> No.13771014

>>13770964
Refer to >>13770891

>> No.13771026

>>13770944
> couldn't they just port the translation to the original and translate the ero there?
Reuse 20 year old art there, while rest of game is brand new with different char designs? Leave screen black for whole scene?
And it would be completely unvoiced.
And voice talent agency would throw a fit when they figure you just released game with their popular anime/all-ages only pure angels in dirty porn game.

>> No.13771027

>>13771014
How old are they, btw?

>> No.13771033

Hey, speaking of all ages voice actors, I heard Da Capo 3 has different voice actors for its different versions. Is that just for the sex scenes or did they really have completely different voice actors re-record the whole thing?

>> No.13771043

>>13771026
>Reuse 20 year old art there
It's only eight years old (a year older than BBH) and still looks better than Higurashi's art, which they've kept as an option in the steam release.

So why not? If you want the sex you've got to deal with the art and lack of voice. Those are the same options the Japanese readers have. The talent agency is fine with the original 18+ being sold in Japan still, so I don't know why it would be a problem here.

>> No.13771059

>>13771043
> The talent agency is fine with the original 18+ being sold in Japan still, so I don't know why it would be a problem here.
It would be problem if their actors are on roster for 18+ release. So you will not be able to have ANY voices in that version.

>> No.13771062

>>13771043
You really do not understand how this business works.

>> No.13771070

>>13771062
So why don't you enlighten us, o wise and knowledgeable one?

>> No.13771075

>>13771070
I don't need to, >>13771059 is already doing so.

>> No.13771083

>>13771059
And as I already said, I wasn't expecting that. That's the option you have when you read the original Japanese version as well. Sex or voice.

>>13771062
Well you're doing a great job of informing me. Maybe you can spell out why exactly the talent agency would be upset about the adult version being sold in English alongside the all ages version, but is fine with both versions existing in Japanese.

>> No.13771084

>>13771059
>>13771075
There aren't any voices in the original 18+ release to begin with.

>> No.13771115

>>13769543
That doesn't prevent companies from localizing MLA/GSNM/Clannad/Grisaia/etc.

...I guess the difference is that you can't exactly sell Hadaka Shitsuji on Steam.

>> No.13771125

>>13771115
>...I guess the difference is that you can't exactly sell Hadaka Shitsuji on Steam.

You could sell like... half of it?

>> No.13771138

>>13771125
They'd have to change the name too. Just call it Butler.

Maybe put an albatross in there and set it in the sky.

>> No.13771153

>>13770228
The Second Reproduction was pretty nice.

>> No.13771237

>>13771033
It's not uncommon to have voice actors change when going from all-age to 18+ and vice versa.

D.C. III started all-age, so the first release and the anime used the all-age set of voices.

D.C. III R (which has both all-age and X-rated versions) has a second set of voices, which the fandiscs use.

The opposite happened with Akaneiro ni Somaru Saka, where the anime and console releases used a different cast compared to the 18+ version, like Yuuhi's 18+ voice being Kazane and her all-age voice being Rie Kugimiya.

>> No.13771397

>>13771000
You might wanna try picking up one of the young adult novels your daughter reads. You'll be surprised.

>> No.13771412

>>13767311
>"There's no WAY they can make this all ages"

All Ages Monster Girl Quest when?

>> No.13771473

>>13771412
Sekai is going to announce it at Otakon.

>> No.13771479
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KKO RIP

>> No.13771485

>>13771412
>>13771473
You know, a lot of people do talk about how you're supposed to look past all the monsterfucking for a really good story in that game. Sekai Project could make it happen.

>> No.13771502

>>13771125
You could sell half of Toudou's route and basically nothing else unless you did extreme censoring, which could be entertaining in its own right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m86z_480bqo

>>13769714
First TL was lacking a decent editor, so that could be fixed, plus the patch makes the game wildly unstable because of the janky game engine which would be another opportunity for corrections as well. That said, I would like Albatross Sky Butlers.

>> No.13771503

>>13771479
They're right at the end. It's just a matter of when they get off their asses and finish it. Happened with Grisaia, happening with Subahibi, happening with this too.

>> No.13771517

>>13771237
I see. The saddening thing about this is how it just completely tosses out one possibly really good voice actor's performance, so if the X-rated stuff is not a factor you have to decide who you miss out on. At least some of the voice actors are the same, and the thought of Emi Nitta doing erotic VO really gets me going.

>> No.13771558

>>13771485
There wouldn't be anything left. The art is monster fucking, the combat is monster fucking, the whole game is monster fucking.

The plot really is good, but it's a plot about monster fucking. There wouldn't even be words left if you cut out the monster fucking. There wouldn't even be a title screen, cause that's monster fucking too.

If you haven't realized yet, you really need to play Monster Girl Quest.

>> No.13771587

>>13771125
You could sell half of Toudou's route and basically nothing else unless you did extreme censoring, which could be entertaining in its own right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m86z_480bqo

>>13769714
First TL was lacking a decent editor, so that could be fixed, plus the patch makes the game wildly unstable because of the janky game engine which would be another opportunity for corrections as well. That said, I would like Albatross Sky Butlers.

>> No.13771855

>>13771043
That would never happen officially, of course, but if a fan happens to make an unofficial patch that adds the 18+ scenes along with the old art, it would certainly be impossible for Mangagamer to stop it from being distributed on the internet, right?

>> No.13771879

>>13771855
Oh, it's going to happen. I'm not sure why people always freak out about this, someone will ALWAYS make a patch. Anyone who cares enough can just use that.

>> No.13771941

>>13771855
Himawari is a 50 hours long VN that has three ero scenes, one CG each, and crudely drawn at that.

I'm pretty sure you'll be able to fap better to the cuddling equivalents they'll have for those scenes in the AA release. If I recall correctly, in the original PSP they even re-used the same CGs with private parts covered by clothes/steam (like steam's Nekopara, I guess?).

>> No.13771982

>>13770002
Bullet Butlers is a solid title, and I'd be excited because it would mean we'd likely see Propeller's other games get localized as well. Most of them have all-ages versions, so they'd profit from Steam sales alone.

>> No.13771990

>>13770262
Most Japanese companies are worried about reverse importing, so they usually go with with several year old titles, especially for 18+ games.

>> No.13771996

>>13770298
Chrono Clock was a failure in Japan. They had nothing to lose by allowing it to be brought over.

>> No.13772001

>>13770468
Nekopara is from a doujin group. Demon Master Chris came out the same year in was released in Japan as well. This isn't unusual for doujin titles.

>> No.13772018

>>13771941
>If I recall correctly, in the original PSP they even re-used the same CGs with private parts covered by clothes/steam (like steam's Nekopara, I guess?).

Eh? Wouldn't that look out of place with the new CGs?

>> No.13772020

>>13771000
All-ages just means no ero. It could still potentially be an M-rated game.

>> No.13772024

>>13772020
>M-rated
>All ages

Uh, I think you've gotten a little confused about wording here.

>> No.13772038

>>13771115
The games you listed mostly have been kickstarted. And we won't know the full deal with G-Senjou until Otakon.

>> No.13772041

>>13772024
No, he's right. In terms of PC games in Japan, the only thing "all-ages" means is that sales are not restricted to adults only. CERO D content would still be classified as "all-ages." CERO Z, however, would not.

>> No.13772045

>>13772024
Grisaia "all-ages" is a 17+ rated game.

>> No.13772051

>>13772038
>>13772045
Then they have pretty stupid wording in Japan, don't they? Because all ages makes it sound like the equivalent of E for Everyone.

>> No.13772056

>>13772051
But they dont use term "all-ages". They use either something that literally translates "for general public" or "not 18+ only".

>> No.13772062

>>13772051
I agree the wording could be better. You could always look up the all-ages rating on vndb if you're worried about it being 13+, 15+, or 17+. I don't know if the ESRB would allow them to call a game T or M rated if they haven't rated it though. It costs money to get a rating, and then MG couldn't sell it on their own website because of the AO games on their site.

>> No.13772069

>>13772056
>>13772062
Then we have pretty stupid wording when we call it all ages, don't we? End result, someone out there is stupid.

I get that rating the game is generally not a good idea for various reasons, but we need a better term. This is one of those dumb ones like "season pass" and "definitive edition." You know, I really liked Editio Regia, so that shows we have alternatives. More companies should be that clever.

>> No.13772075

>>13772069
Oops, actually I'm wrong, there's also 全年齢, which is literally "all-ages".

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>>13772075
Well, there you go. Stupidity is inevitable.

>> No.13772083

Wow, I can't believe Last Resort is actually almost done. It's rare for a VN to be translated so quickly after release. I'm sure something will go wrong since there's always a catch, but whatever, I'll play it. I am a man who loves moe.

>> No.13772087

>>13772083
Moenovel will come from nowhere and announce they're releasing it.

>> No.13772091

>>13772087
It would be funny, and plausible since they've been silent long enough that they will probably have another game ready soon. Would be a massive shame though considering all these other untranslated games they have.

>> No.13772099

>>13772091
> since they've been silent long enough
They don't have own employees. Management is from Will/Pulltop, and everything regarding translation was outsourced to playism.
So most likely they are just doing their will/pulltop things and moenovel is forgotten.

>> No.13772125

>>13772099
Yeah, but that's what I mean. They outsourced the translation a long time back, when they said "we have a second project in the works" so someone has been working on it for all this time. So soon enough they're going to suddenly announce it like they did IMHHW, and then the full game will be out after a month.

>> No.13772134

>>13772075
Maybe it's All Ages in that the characters can be all ages and not just 18+

>> No.13772140

>>13772134
Well, that would be clever. Too clever, though.

>> No.13772176

>>13772018
The PSP version had the same artwork as the original with a few new extra CGs that tried to imitate the same style.

PSVita is a complete remake, though, and I imagine they'll be re-drawing everything. I'm really curious about what they will do with those borderline CGs during the cuddling scenes.

>> No.13772604

>>13770836
Honestly he really just seems to want his army of sycophants to comfort him, like anyone that makes whiny tweets. Seen it happen with a bunch of other idiots, not surprising that it would for Dovac too.

>> No.13772651

>>13772083
The catch is that it's machine translated, you idiot. Jesus. Just look at the people posting progress updates.

>> No.13772660

>>13772651
Literally.
http://ask.fm/mdzanime/answer/129813742713

>How much do you rely on assisting machines when you read/translate VNs?
>Hmm. I rely on using the dictionary for the most part. I could probably handle a majority of what I read w/o one, but it's much faster to just instantly see the definition and to read at a brisk pace, than to possibly recall from memory what a word might mean (with the potential for error).

It's faster to machine translate than it is to learn the language.

>> No.13772661

>>13772176
http://prot.co.jp/psv/himawari/introduction.html
>Bottom right pic
It seems the team is at least willing to go this far

>> No.13772679

>>13772660
That never goes completely wrong.

>>13762802

>> No.13772682

>>13772651
>>13772660
That's written with good grammar though, so I think it will read fine.

>> No.13772691

>>13772660
That's not what he said.

>> No.13772699

>>13772660
Sent him a couple anime recommendations from this season. You guys check them out too, they're both REALLY good.

>> No.13772702

>>13772691
Yes, it is. It's faster for him to read the dictionary than it is to know the language.

>> No.13772708

>>13772702
Honestly, the way I see it, as long as the writing is clear, it doesn't matter how accurate it is to the original text. It's never going to be the original text anyway, so what matters is that the translator can write a good story. That's why the ones with broken English are so annoying.

>> No.13772710

>>13772708
That's not call translating, that's called rewriting.

>> No.13772734

>>13760874
Mark my fucking words.
It's fucking Oretsuba

>> No.13772745

>>13772734
It'd be tsuriotsu before it'd be oretsuba. Mark MY words.

>> No.13772749

>>13772734
Wasn't the reason they couldn't localize that was the voices were extremely expensive?

>> No.13772751

>>13772710
Indeed, which is fine. I actually plan to release a patch of my own like that someday, a finished project on the day it's announced. I'm just gonna call it something like, say "Tenshi no Inai 12-gatsu English patch" (just a random game, not the one I have in mind) and never actually call it a translation. Because it will be my own story. And the best part is, people won't notice until it's too late. It will be out there, and since most people who download it don't speak Japanese, they'll have already accepted it.

>> No.13772764

>>13772745
What's up with how the names Tsuriotsu and Oretsuba sound so similar? Are they made by the same people?

>> No.13772768

>>13772745
Or it could be Otoboku 2, since people who played the original have been asking for the sequel for some time now.

>> No.13772771

>>13772751
Of course, it WILL be a loose translation. Like, very loose. The common stuff that plebeians know, like "baka" and "kuso" and "sasuga" will remain intact, so that it's harder for them to notice. But they will be fooled.

>> No.13772779

>>13772768
Wow, the protagonist in that one. Hot damn.

>> No.13772813

>>13772764
Both by Navel

>> No.13772836

>>13772813
Interesting, so it's not just a coincidence.

How prominently are bellybuttons featured in Navel games?

>> No.13772972

>>13772768
I'm just talking about Navel games though.

>> No.13773119

>>13772660
Oh wow and I wondered how he can churn out those VN reviews so quickly.

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