Is Touhou dead now?

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Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:48:38 2015 No.13725357 [Reply] [Original]

Is Touhou dead now?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 10:51:12 2015 No.13725361 >>13725357 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:22:24 2015 No.13725424 >>13725357 It certainly is reclining

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:24:41 2015 No.13725430 >>13725357 That Reimu looks quite comfy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 11:58:54 2015 No.13725514 It will never be 2009 again

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:10:06 2015 No.13725539 File: 115 KB, 823x856, 1275878929546.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13725514 That time from SA to UFO was golden. Touhou was unstoppable. We were young and healthy and our pets were still alive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 12:23:17 2015 No.13725569 I never noticed a decline. I thought it was an everlasting thing here. I'm confused.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 13:00:53 2015 No.13725677 File: 227 KB, 430x471, 1386199169555.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13725357 Touhou is reclining not declining An important difference

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:05:43 2015 No.13731490 Yes. I don't remember the last time I saved a Marisa image

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:11:37 2015 No.13731507 It's zun's fault for not making another game as good as SA. it's not like he cares anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:17:25 2015 No.13731527 >>13725357 waros is dead cause of pedos

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:19:05 2015 No.13731534 File: 578 KB, 480x270, please stop bullying the lolis.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13725539 >our pets were still alive

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:32:20 2015 No.13731579 >>13725357 No, it's the Kancolle who's dying now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:51:32 2015 No.13731653 I hate the MoF era games. MoF and SA are the worst games ZUN has made. Such horrible shitty systems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 23:55:30 2015 No.13731671 >>13731653 I actually completely agree with this. Everyone always gasms over MoF and SA and they just dont seem to be that great in any way really.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:03:48 2015 No.13733916
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Touhou is indeed declining, at least in West. Less translations, less uploads, less interest. It's noticeable even here in /jp/. Just a year or two ago the top of catalog was always 50% touhou, now it's less than 20%.
And I don't expect LoLK to fix this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:24:40 2015 No.13733973 It's dead the fans already grew up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:29:04 2015 No.13733986 I hate to admit it but it certainly seems to be dying. Perhap it's time to move on to boat fanaticism?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:30:21 2015 No.13733991 Was not the fan made touhou game the best selling game on PSN in Japan?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:31:39 2015 No.13733994 If this is death I don't want to live.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:34:17 2015 No.13734002 LoLK seemed like a downgrade of the few previous games in both graphics and music. This sucks.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:37:10 2015 No.13734008
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>>13734002
I think it's some of the best stage 1-3 music we've had recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcah1Tk2cn0
ZUN tried to kill touhou with DDC, but he's bringing it back with LoLK.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:37:42 2015 No.13734009 2hu didn't change, the jay did

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:37:44 2015 No.13734010 >>13734002 Nice joke anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:00:28 2015 No.13734063 >>13734002 >LoLK seemed like a downgrade of the few previous games in both graphics and music. Good one, actually got a chuckle out of me. Now, let's enjoy one of the best 2hu songs together, why don't we? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxArg7xqYAY

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:05:49 2015 No.13734080 >>13734008 >>13734010 >>13734063 The recent stuff ZUN made in LoLK is too repetitive with no dynamics. The melody is still catchy. Sure. But the songs sounds so damn linear with the beats never changing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:09:48 2015 No.13734091 >>13734080 But ZUN is the melody man. That's his thing. His music typically lacks development and dynamics. And let's not forget that this is music for an STG. It fits the gameplay perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:17:46 2015 No.13734104 Recent LoLK new character designs are shit too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:19:52 2015 No.13734108 File: 465 KB, 1000x760, 1435605497161.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13734104 Unlike ZUN's previous masterpieces of course.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:21:29 2015 No.13734111

>>13734002
LoLK is effectively two games in one, has some of the most creative patterns on stages 1 to 3 so far, is tough as nails yet rewards grazing and scoring with resources as opposed to retarded systems like UFO, has a relatively well-balanced shot types and great playable cast, some other good ideas like graze indicator and item fall slowdown, is closely related storyline-wise to an earlier much-beloved entry (IN) and has quite a serious storyline so far AND has ZUN experimenting a lot with electronic style of music, with quite pleasing results. I could only agree that graphics might not be the best of ZUN so far (even though Sanae has definietly the best looking portrait of her in LoLK), but you cannot convince me that LoLK isn't the best thing we could have gotten to revive Touhou short of a next Phantasmagoria game. And coming on the heels of Hopeless Masquerade done well, to boot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:42:58 2015 No.13734172 >>13734108 Good lord, what's wrong with Ringo's mouth!?

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:59:47 2015 No.13734227

>>13734111
Holy shit, your post. I can quote every single point and give at least few paragraphs explaining why you're so fucking wrong.
>but you cannot convince me that LoLK isn't the best thing we could have gotten to revive Touhou
What do you think is needed to "revive" Touhou?
Gameplay means nothing (and it's actually really terrible). Spellcard patterns mean nothing. There is a limit to how much you can play one game. Unless you're one of four alive scorefags you will stop playing the game after the 1cc (after first grind completion in case of LoLK). There will be zero gameplay discussion in a month after release just like with any other touhou game.
So maybe story can revive it? Except LoLK's plot so far is actually no different from any other plot in his previous games. There are no signs that these events will have any permanent consequences on Gensokyo and its inhabitants. Moon ivasion or NUclear holocaust by a mad bird - in the end they all will drink tea together.

Music and characters, that's what touhou needs. New characters suck. Music is decent, but we need much more for true "revival".

Also
>some other good ideas like graze indicator and item fall slowdown
And that stupid twitching/jiggling (and colour change) of bullets you graze? That's so fucking distracting and annoying, fucking worst idea ever. Every single person I know hated this shit. And yet it turns out there are shitters like you who support this change.

proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Sun Jul 5 18:24:30 2015 No.13734467
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>>13725569
It is everlasting, as there are still rotten and dusty forums about megaman with 20 posts per week.
No series ever dies anymore, but they all will decline until a certain point composed of the last diehard fans remains.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:31:46 2015 No.13734486 >>13734467 >It is everlasting, as there are still rotten and dusty forums about megaman with 20 posts per week. You just reminded me about pooshlmer. It's better if touhou dies completely than shrink to such pathetic existence.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:06:51 2015 No.13734602 I will cling to Touhou even as it grows cold and stiff in my grasp and decomposes into slime.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:09:06 2015 No.13734609 Why do people have to make such a fuss about Touhou dying? There's always gonna be people out there that like it. And no matter how few, why does it matter? Everything has its time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:10:34 2015 No.13734620 >>13734609 It's for the sake of discussion you dumb fuck.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:16:41 2015 No.13734645

Touhou is not dying. Over half of Reitaisai participants are first timers this year. It's not as popular as Kancolle right now but that doesn't really mean anything.

If anything it would be healthier for Touhou not to compete for the Kancolle audience, who are mostly sellout doujin artists and people looking for waifu of the day. It's much better to have a mix of waifufags, secondaries, die hard fans etc etc and even females fans.

Right now the popular characters are the SA bunch which already shows it's possible to transition away from SDM. So no, I don't see Touhou being dead or dying anytime soon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:18:32 2015 No.13734654 >>13725514 >it will never be pre-2010 4chan again >it will never be pre-2007 4chan again

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:21:11 2015 No.13734664

>>13734227
>There are no signs that these events will have any permanent consequences on Gensokyo and its inhabitants.
You can't seriously use this as a measure for anything given that literally every development in Gensokyo and the overarching scenario is done through the addition of places and characters that, from the event itself, make no significant permanent impacts to anything. That's how it's always been, and yet coming back to a very important setting (the Moon) is unarguably a bigger indication of developing a significant story than any other game plot so far.

What do you even think a "revival" means? Surely you seem to think that a "revival" is even needed for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 02:24:24 2015 No.13735993 I stopped caring when ten desires was teleased

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 02:33:24 2015 No.13736010 >>13734645 >and even females fans >females >s you know the characters are females you nutty virgin homosexual

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 02:48:58 2015 No.13736057 Touhou ain't dying as long as ZUN ain't dead/become disinteresed. Not to mention nowadays the new characters are becoming increasingly popular.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 06:06:05 2015 No.13736377
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The only reason Touhou feels like it's "dying" is because the people making it popular are either busy with real life (you're dreaming if you think hikkikomorism can last forever; that's not how karma works) or were never mainline fans to begin with. If you look at the past couple of years, the fanmade Touhou-related content (drawings, animations, etc.) has never been of higher quality.

Any one of us could easily revitalize Touhou on this board with enough time, effort, and imagination.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 06:24:44 2015 No.13736403 >Is Touhou dead now? Silly anon you're supposed to start the thread with >Touhou is declining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 06:26:18 2015 No.13736405 >>13736377 >you're dreaming if you think hikkikomorism can last forever It can, you kill yourself when you have to stop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 06:34:32 2015 No.13736418 >>13736405 That explains what happened to 90% of /jp/'s population...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:07:06 2015 No.13737551 >>13731507 >It's zun's fault for not making another game as good as SA. ZUN hasn't lost his musical touch, at least. DDC had an awesome soundtrack.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 15:45:45 2015 No.13737673 I want all Touhou remakes with latest graphic engines

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 16:23:02 2015 No.13737807
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>>13725357
No, ULiL is a lot of fun, LoLK's new pillmode is rewarding and both mangahus are super cute, though I prefer azmaya's by a long shot.
Positive bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:21:47 2015 No.13737992 I'm super excited for LoLK, I'm even making a short comic about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 17:48:09 2015 No.13738062 If he started releasing games yearly again and made the characters more interesting everything would go back to normal.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:02:57 2015 No.13738107
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At any fandom of anything ever there is always a point of peak and a decline, you cant stop it, its simply the way it is, however as people move on to the next fad or whatever it should not concern you, enjoy what you enjoy

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 18:49:48 2015 No.13738217

>>13734227
This guy is somewhat correct. Music and characters are quite fucking important for a Touhou game and LoLK certainly doesn't do much for either of those. The characters are absolute shit and the music, while not bad (it's ZUN, it's never going to be outright bad) is mediocre as fuck, with the stage 1 theme standing out the most.

However, the part about gameplay not mattering is fucking retarded. It's the one thing LoLK is seemingly doing correct.
You get your resources by scoring now, which is the best way to get resources, and I don't even score.

Point Device mode looks like a good way for casuals to learn certain parts of a stage that is fucking them up.

And judging by the demo, LoLK has a decently difficult stage 1 and 2. Its stage 3 is fairly hard too, but it's already been established that Kagerou > Doremy in terms of difficultly. Doremy is still perhaps the second hardest stage 3 boss though.

So if ZUN can up the quality of the music to the level of the DDC soundtrack, which is absolutely amazing, as well as giving us more interesting characters, this definitely could be the start of 2hu returning to form.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:00:55 2015 No.13738251

>>13738217
>You get your resources by scoring now
You have infinite lives and checkpoints after each section/spell. Resources (bombs) are pointless now. Pointdevice is the main game mode, ti's the "correct" way to play the game according to ZUN. You'll be able to get a good ending by finishing the game in this new mode.
Legacy mode is left only for nerds. I bet it will have the same status as NB/NM runs in other games.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:05:59 2015 No.13738272

>>13738217
>DDC soundtrack, which is absolutely amazing
I really do like the last half of DDC's soundtrack, but if we're comparing demos here, I think LoLK is a lot better so far, except for Sekibanki's theme. These three stages are the best I've heard since UFO's and has me pretty optimistic about the rest of the game.

I wouldn't worry too much about the music. I agree with everything else you said though.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:13:01 2015 No.13738292

>>13738251
>Pointdevice is the main game mode, ti's the "correct" way to play the game according to ZUN.

Nobody gives a fuck how ZUN tells us to play the game. The main shmup players will only be considering Legacy mode for any real runs.
If people want to parade their point device victory around, they're free to do that, but for the more serious players, point device mode is seen as nothing but a glorified practice mode.

>>13738272
LoLK Stage 1 theme > DDC stage 1, but as for the other 2 stages? I found them boring and forgettable. Especially the stage 2 theme which pales in comparison to the DDC stage 2 theme.
The only tracks I never really liked from the DDC demo were stage 1 and Kagerou's theme.
As I said though, the ones from LoLK aren't "bad", they're just not very good.
I can't say enough good things about the stage 1 theme though. That's what we've needed for a long time now, a stage 1 theme that gets you pumped.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:26:53 2015 No.13738337 >>13738292 >Especially the stage 2 theme which pales in comparison to the DDC stage 2 theme. Hey, fuck you, LoLK's Stage 2 theme is my favorite.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:29:14 2015 No.13738348 >>13738337 Sounds like spaceships and I HATE spaceships.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 19:33:46 2015 No.13738372 File: 167 KB, 800x290, Argama.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13738348 What a terrible thing to say.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:30:09 2015 No.13740520 You know what 2hu needs? A 2 to 4 players co-op shooter with changing levels according to player number

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:36:21 2015 No.13740532 >>13740520 Not really. We need another PoFV style game with online matches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:38:28 2015 No.13740540 >>13740532 pofv a shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:40:01 2015 No.13740543 >>13740520 Tsukumogami rhythm game fucking when

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 23:33:31 2015 No.13743212 Gensokyo never dies, just the worshipers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 02:06:00 2015 No.13743638 >>13743212 I agree with this. The fans might leave but as long as ZUN still makes games, it will live on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 03:14:48 2015 No.13747955 >>13736377 So we need drawfags and writefags?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:06:31 2015 No.13748663 >>13743638 But ZUN will babby soon. And then he will move on from gensokyo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:07:54 2015 No.13748665 >>13748663 If by soon you mean last year, sure. >>13743212 And then Touhou Project itself will be forgotten and enter Gensokyo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:27:10 2015 No.13748720 Touhou will only truly be dead when ZUN dies. Anyone want to try brewing a hourai elixir? We'll need it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:36:47 2015 No.13748739 File: 787 KB, 772x1080, 1327874304536.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13748720 Even if Zun dies, Touhou will live

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 10:27:21 2015 No.13748869 Touhou has embed itself into the nerdy culture of Japan. Even if the Priest is dead, his legacy lives on. A lot of things in our weeb nerdy culture nowadays won't be possible without him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 12:26:43 2015 No.13753642 >>13725357 i would hope so

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 12:38:41 2015 No.13753659 >>13753642 Kannakooly pls leave

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 14:35:15 2015 No.13754038 >>13753659 :^)

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 14:41:00 2015 No.13754062 File: 408 KB, 772x1080, 1436449007552__.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13754057

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 20:16:43 2015 No.13755258 >>13754062 L-lewd

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 20:41:22 2015 No.13755312 File: 69 KB, 1009x1201, a7468e4818361f102160bae88b8a21d4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13754057 >>13754062 why would you do this who doesn't like Reimu in spats?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 20:43:53 2015 No.13755319 >>13755312 I want to impregnate Reimu in her spats!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 20:47:02 2015 No.13755333 >>13755312 A stealth request!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 20:53:45 2015 No.13755359 >>13755312 I did it! But it's too lewd to post! I hope her anus came out properly!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 21:00:54 2015 No.13755387 >>13755359 Put it in imgur! And the post a link here!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 21:12:52 2015 No.13755427 File: 583 KB, 1200x808, 1339771953853.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13755319 Me too!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 10 22:27:45 2015 No.13755661 >>13755312 Does Raymoo like it in the stinky?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 03:39:29 2015 No.13756540 >>13725539 I'm all old and rickety now. Bless 2009 and 2010, those were the best years of my life ;__:

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 08:32:12 2015 No.13757073 Its just resting

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