Realistically, how much money do you think Zun makes off of Touhou? How many copies do you think he manages to sell of each game? I understand he has a full time job in addition to Touhou, but do you think he could realistically make Touhou full time?

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Anonymous Thu Jul 2 05:26:32 2015 No.13721158 [Reply] [Original]

Realistically, how much money do you think Zun makes off of Touhou?
How many copies do you think he manages to sell of each game?
I understand he has a full time job in addition to Touhou, but do you think he could realistically make Touhou full time?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 05:38:40 2015 No.13721171 ZUN is broke

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 05:55:31 2015 No.13721198 >>13721171 ZUN must regret supporting such a monstrous leeching community that literally makes more money from his ideas than him. Though nips are used to survive with below average wages, so I guess he fares well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 07:15:24 2015 No.13721320 >>13721158 >>13721171 >>13721198 ZUN earns more in a week from royalties than you ever will in your entire lifetime. Though like most japs he's fairly modest, so hasn't built himself a palace. He probably could if he wanted to though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 16:56:32 2015 No.13722341 >>13721171 >>13721198 >>13721320 Source?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 17:01:00 2015 No.13722352 >>13722341 I'm friends with him on twitter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 17:09:52 2015 No.13722376 >>13721320 If he actually earned good money form royalties he would have already started his own brewery/restaurant business and left his ft job.

Anonymous Thu Jul 2 17:18:59 2015 No.13722404

>>13721198
>ZUN must regret supporting such a monstrous leeching community that literally makes more money from his ideas than him.
Well, maybe if he was asking for money and sending cease&desists to that monstruous leeching community, it would not be so monstrous, in fact it might not exist at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 17:28:14 2015 No.13722426 >>13722376 >he would have already started his own brewery He did.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 2 17:43:15 2015 No.13722479 >>13722376 I'm pretty sure he DOES own his own brewery now

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 00:24:17 2015 No.13724069 >>13722376 While I'm pretty sure he does not actually own the facilities he brews his trademark beer in, he left his job in, like, 2007.

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>>13722352
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>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:54:57 2015 No.13729769 >>13724069 ZUN said on twitter that he got a job around 2009. He wouldn't get a job if he was rich.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:02:14 2015 No.13729788 >>13721158 He's probably like Kalashnikov, but gets money from his product. Endorsements are his thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:08:34 2015 No.13729800 im at the touhou panel at ax. theyre playin crappy amvs ... :(

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:43:00 2015 No.13730873 >>13729769 Chinese, Koreans and Japanese like to work even if when they are rich. I know some of them with rich parents but they work as retail managers or such.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 21:46:08 2015 No.13731179 >>13721158 >he didn't check the official comiket sales registry

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:44:14 2015 No.13732565

>>13729769
Not exactly. His job, as of quitting Taito in 2007, was full-time Touhou. This period is basically how he got so much shit done during 2008~2009. At this time, his "day job" is writing and managing the Touhou manga, but besides this he's currently being a full-time dad.

By the way, that statement is also always unsourced as far as I can tell, and searching through Twitter around the supposed time period isn't giving me anything related. Such a tweet might have been talking about something else entirely (not that I'm saying it's false, since his new job is essentially Touhou).

As to answer the OP:
>>13721158
1. He does work on Touhou "full-time" in the sense that the series is what he spends all of his "working time" on and it's his main source of income, both through manga sales and whatever doujin works he makes and sells.

2. As one example of his earnings for the games in particular, it was mentioned in the MAG-net documentary that during Comiket, Double Spoiler sold out its 10000 copies, which were being sold for 1000円. Then, keep in mind that sales continued after Comiket through doujin shops, and also keep in mind that Double Spoiler was a side-game and likely didn't sell as much as the main games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:56:26 2015 No.13732575 What is his full time job btw?

>>	SAGE Mon Jul 6 16:14:01 2015 No.13737769 Is Tohou like the company Toho that put out the Godzilla movies?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 20:27:03 2015 No.13738513 >>13737769 Yes, 東宝

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:09:42 2015 No.13738807 >>13737769 yes, they're definitely both treasures from the east.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 22:44:36 2015 No.13738895 >beer >dad fucking normalfag i bet he even goes to strip clubs too wtf

Anonymous Tue Jul 7 02:30:56 2015 No.13739613

>>13732565
I was at Reitaisai 11 and all copies of impossible spellcard sold out at the half mark of the event. They were counting the money afterwards, just countless stacks of 1000 yen bills. And I was a few days later in akiba and all copies there were gone aswell.
Next to royalties from manga and merchandise, ZUN should have a decent income.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:24:05 2015 No.13740499 ZUN makes his own beer? What's it called?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:45:18 2015 No.13740571 >>13738513 方 != 宝

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 09:52:54 2015 No.13740599 File: 85 KB, 269x233, 226.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13740571 Oh wait, sorry. I can't read apparently.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 14:55:54 2015 No.13745555 >>13732565 Reminder that Zun makes the games in a mad rush a couple of months before his events.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 15:19:20 2015 No.13745668 File: 1.19 MB, 850x849, Beerhu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13740499 ZUNbeer

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:22:32 2015 No.13746166 >>13745668 Sounds like Zombie in my native language. What a coincidence. It's probably some hidden message, like "You don't have life for buying my beer outside of Japan".

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 17:59:12 2015 No.13746277

>>13740499
He brews different beer every year for the Niconico Super Conference. They're all named similarly:
超みかんエール "Super Orange Ale"
超不夜城レッド "Super Red the Nightless Castle"
超黒ひろゆき "Super Black Hiroyuki"
超インディーズゲームエールｗ "Super Indie Game Ale (lol)"
超幕張ラガー "Super Makuhari Lager"
Here's a visit to Baird Brewery, where he brews it: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20430010
There are a bunch of videos up on Nico about ZUNbeer.

>>13745555
He's said before it takes about four months of development for a game (I can't recall if this was relating to side games or full ones), but that's also ignoring any planning and research going into it beforehand. It isn't like the games are the only thing he makes, either. But yeah, he rushes. He said back in May that he wasn't sure if he's going to be able to finish LoLK by C88.

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 19:43:54 2015 No.13746594

>>13732565
>2. As one example of his earnings for the games in particular, it was mentioned in the MAG-net documentary that during Comiket, Double Spoiler sold out its 10000 copies, which were being sold for 1000円.

Seriously? That means he made nearly 80 fucking grand on DS alone, holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:09:01 2015 No.13746671 >>13746594 80k in gross profit from a single game isn't that much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:12:56 2015 No.13746681 >>13746671 Considering he didn't invest a single cent besides his time, I guess it's still good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:18:58 2015 No.13746696 >>13746681 You can't just ignore the time spent. 80k could be good profit depending on how many hours he put into the game, but I'd guess it amounts to a mediocre hourly wage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:26:16 2015 No.13746713 >>13746671 For a random dude in his basement selling at a doujin convention, that's pretty damn good. Aren't almost all doujin products sold at a loss, or barely make even?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 20:31:04 2015 No.13746724 >>13746696 I didn't ignore the time spent, that's why I mentioned it. But what I'm trying to say is it is better to spend only time than spending time and money.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Wed Jul 8 20:58:48 2015 No.13746818 File: 1.98 MB, 2592x1936, 18576761_big_p4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13721171 We haven't seen a full season Touhou anime yet, so no.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 21:05:11 2015 No.13746827 >>13746818 The day ZUN lets someone make an official anime is the day ZUN dies for me, for he will have betrayed his own words (or so I hear).

Anonymous Wed Jul 8 21:54:41 2015 No.13746966

>>13746827
This will probably never happen. Firstly, ZUN really dislikes poor treatment of workers, which is prominent in Japanese game dev, and considering animators are infamously mistreated even worse, it's hard to imagine him agreeing unless the studio had an excellent record. Plus, he's said time and time again that if a Touhou anime were ever to be made, it would not be an adaptation of an existing work, and just as he does with the manga ZUN would require very heavy reigns over most aspects, because that's how he does things.

>>13746713
Yeah more or less.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 8 22:44:35 2015 No.13747058 >>13746966 write this in stone

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 00:09:09 2015 No.13747322 something else, what does zun think about all of the touhou porn? does he not care about it? does he jack off to it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 00:49:53 2015 No.13747462 >>13722479 Wait, seriously? Does it have a web site? Can I order a case?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 01:26:11 2015 No.13747658 >>13747462 He doesn't own the brewery, that'd be pretty insane. He uses the Baird Beer's facility. http://bairdbeer.com/en/ He really only sells his yearly craft at the Niconico Super Conference, so that's a no.

proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. Thu Jul 9 01:27:37 2015 No.13747664

>>13746966
He may say that now because he is in a good financial situation, but he wouldn't think twice about selling the rights for a 2hu anime if his son was critically ill and he needed lots of money for his treatment.

Necessity knows no law.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:55:45 2015 No.13748782 >>13747664 Well, I hope it doesn't come to that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 09:57:12 2015 No.13748790 >>13747322 He doesn't like it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 10:14:10 2015 No.13748832 I want to work for ZUN. I will do it for free. I want to make game about beautiful + talented girl. How can this be accomplished dudes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 10:21:02 2015 No.13748849 >>13748832 You can't. You need to be of the higher order to get to work with Kannushi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 10:31:01 2015 No.13748877 >>13746594 So wait he only prints 10k copies for an event? He doesnt print more afterwards?

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 11:08:27 2015 No.13748942

>make an indie game
>with qt girls
>and a twist like very hard difficulty
>sell first game for free
>but charge for royalties
>don't send Cease-and-desists for fanwork
>make a sequel
>charge for it
>make a sequel
>same price
>15 years later
>quit whatever your main source of income is
>just continue working on the game and various media for it
>don't allow an official anime for it
>don't allow big companies to touch it
>just you
>and your big bucks
>from royalties
>keep drinking beer
>wear a leather jacket
>wear a weird hat
>be ZUN

My plan is perfect.
>tfw you weren't destined to be Team Shanghai Alice

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 11:25:55 2015 No.13748994

>>13748832
You can't, the guys in the credits are close friends used for minor bug fixing and testing. The fun part is they said they don't know what the fuck they are fixing because ZUN doesn't want to spoiler anything about Touhou to anyone wife included before release.

Anonymous Thu Jul 9 12:47:54 2015 No.13749268

>>13748994
>The fun part is they said they don't know what the fuck they are fixing because ZUN doesn't want to spoiler anything about Touhou to anyone wife included before release.
Citation needed. I mean, I do see ZUN as the kind of person who would change everything to use placeholder assets even if the final ones are already done just to avoid spoilers, but still.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 12:56:44 2015 No.13749285 >>13748942 okay but where is the part about tendies?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 9 13:19:34 2015 No.13749349 >>13749268 He said it in one of the interviews but I can't remember which one, now I'm doubting it myself. I'm sure I haven't heard it in a dream though.

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