Kantai Collection -KanColle-

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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle

Recent Updates:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/4Wk2hy0B

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Combat
Voices, Sprites, Furnitures Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev
KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
Another KCV fork (EN): https://github.com/yuyuvn/KanColleViewer
Sanaechan Logbook: https://github.com/silfumus/logbook-EN/releases

PS Vita Game (27 August 2015): http://kancolle-vita.com
Dengeki Online article about the KanColle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096

News:
-CL, CA, Shokaku and Zuikaku kai2 in the future
-New searchlight for BBs and regular searchlight are available for upgrades.

Please be mindful when deciding what's considered actual newsworthy news and not just blatantly pasted content from http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

[Anonymous No.]

Why was the other thread deleted?
This is insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13594626
Insane mods do insane things.
I wonder what would happen if they started to delete touhou threads in the same manner.

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>>13594606
If you have this much time to spam threads all day you really need to get a life.

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>>13594679
If you have this much time to shitpost all day you really need to get a life.

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>>13594606
Missing content:

Wiki:
(NEW) EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle

Recent Updates:
http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Game_Updates

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>>13595017
The new wiki is shit. Stop spamming it here.
It doesn't deserve to be in the OP.

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>>13595070
The new wiki is objectively better, it doesn't have the shitty ads and the bloat that the wikia has.

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>>13595090
Fuck off.
It's objectively worse and full of misinformation as the previous thread showed yet again.

[Anonymous No.]

B-21 is the bane of my fucking existence right now

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>>13595498
Yeah, american strategic bombers are too OP.

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>>13595689

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>>13595717
What's with that sex-starved look, Yuudachi?

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>>13594606

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>>13595717
very poi!

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>>13596458
Whats in the mother truckin box?!

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>>13596458
>>13596483

[Anonymous No.]

Which maps drops nagato more commonly coupled with a rating of easiness to farm.

[Anonymous No.]

Happy Ban Time

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>>13597696
>IDs go up to 19 million
Does that mean they already banned 16 million people so far?

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>>13596503
Aw... Don't hurt her

[Gensui Hime !!k307j3yrqUu No.]

Whoever is omitting the new wiki link from the OP posts, be nice if you had an explanation.

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>>13598029
/jp/ is currently in a minor start of war over who gets to start the war, the two combatants of which are:

1. some autistic fuck who has been trying to harass Kancolle off /jp/ for months
2. pretty much everyone else

I think the situation has developed to the point where people will deign to use the retard's thread if it isn't obviously shit.

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>>13598029
/jp/ is currently in a minor start of war over who gets to start the threads, the two combatants of which are:

1. some autistic fuck who has been trying to harass Kancolle off /jp/ for months
2. pretty much everyone else

I think the situation has developed to the point where people will deign to use the retard's thread if it's not very blatantly retarded troll shit. If you're wondering why a given OP is shit chances are that it was supposed to be.

[Gensui Hime !!k307j3yrqUu No.]

>>13598056
Thanks for the explanation.

As for you OP, if you're trying to pull my leg it isn't funny. New thread.
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>>13598177
With a passive-aggressive OP like that I wouldn't be surprised if your thread got nuked for advertising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13598177
Report it people.

>tripfaggotry
>using the shit wiki
>making it too late

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

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>>13598183
What was the point of this?

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>>13598568
Probably a mod statement saying the new thread is fine, given that they're not allowed to use words anymore.

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>>13598632
It doesn't seem like that to me.
Either the mod is the tripfag or has an agenda in allowing advertisements in the OP since he is directly involved.

Or he is just a butthurt 2hufag trying to start a shitstorm and use it as an excuse to evict us from /jp/.

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>>13598661
>It doesn't seem like that to me.
Your conspiracy theories are far less plausible than the simple notion that the mods are as fed up with /kcg/'s crap as everyone else.

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>>13598717
You can't honestly say that.
I even got a false ban for ban evasion. One or multiple mods definitely have an agenda here.
You may treat it as a conspiracy now, but you will change your mind when you start getting banned for absolutely no reason.

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>>13598748
>I even got a false ban for ban evasion.
You were probably mistaken for the serially evading /kcg/fag.

>but you will change your mind when you start getting banned for absolutely no reason
Recently I've been banned less than I've ever been. I'll burn that bridge when I get to it.

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>>13598756
>You were probably mistaken for the serially evading /kcg/fag.
I didn't make any /kcg/ posts so this case doesn't even deserve the benefit of doubt.
I don't think /kcg/fag is evading either, it's just mods deleting stuff they don't like from time to time.

>Recently I've been banned less than I've ever been. I'll burn that bridge when I get to it.
I'm sure you are more of an exception than the general rule. Without moot to check on the mods they have more freedom than ever to make such "mistakes".

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>>13598809
Even last year when the mods were being a real shitheels and banning me every four days for "participating in shitposting discussions" I still wasn't landing evasion bans. Either you share an IP with a major fag or you get up to some weird shit.

I don't know if you actually care about having this conversation, but a for your actual post -

>tripfaggotry
Tripfaggotry is a standard response to people making troll OPs - see VNTS.

>using the shit wiki
I don't think I've ever seen a community actually resist being moved off Wikia. The Touhouwiki moved without anyone in /jp/ about it.

>making it too late
This is just dumb. First thread wins is a useful guideline, not a rule.

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>>13598887
The staff was reorganized heavily after moot left. The janitor application news are still visible too.

>Tripfaggotry is a standard response to people making troll OPs - see VNTS.
I don't follow the VNTS threads, but a tripfag is a tripfag, especially if it's not a dedicated trip.

>I don't think I've ever seen a community actually resist being moved off Wikia. The Touhouwiki moved without anyone in /jp/ about it.
Because touhouwiki was never as shitty as kancollewiki. Kancollewiki is even harder to navigate than wikia, less updated and has even more misinformation than wikia. In it's current state it doesn't deserve to be in the OP.

>This is just dumb. First thread wins is a useful guideline, not a rule.
The thread linked was the FOURTH kancolle thread made. We already had 3 others to use before it.

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>>13598925
Except the first 3 including the one with the most posts were troll threads forced on us.

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>>13598954
Also don't forget at least 2-3 spam threads that were already deleted by the mods in the span of the 700+ post thread's life.

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>>13598925
>a tripfag is a tripfag
I'm still waiting on why I should care.

>Because touhouwiki was never as shitty as kancollewiki. Kancollewiki is even harder to navigate than wikia, less updated and has even more misinformation than wikia.
I don't actually use either myself but number of edits alone they look about tied. Well, if it's shit it's shit - I'm actually surprised there are people who wouldn't make the move.

>The thread linked was the FOURTH kancolle thread made. We already had 3 others to use before it.
This is the endgame of some long and stupid game that's being played. /kcg/fag used to make one thread and people would use the other, at which point he would throw a shitfit about the fact that there were two threads. But two threads weren't too many, so what he'd do is he'd make two threads and then complain when people made a third one. It's basically a stupidity arms race at making people give up on making new threads.

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>>13598954
You shouldn't brand everything you don't like as "troll". You shouldn't speak in the name of "us".

>>13598961
Yet, this one still stayed around.

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>>13598970
>I'm still waiting on why I should care.
Because hopefully you didn't start browsing this site only in this summer.

>>13598970
> It's basically a stupidity arms race at making people give up on making new threads.
I'm still waiting on why I should care.

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>>13598974
I actually made this thread to test the reaction of the mods.

If you notice, this thread wasn't obnoxiously linked back to the previous one.

There's certainly more than one person who doesn't like this, so that qualifies an "us".

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>>13598991
>Because hopefully you didn't start browsing this site only in this summer.
I started browsing back when /jp/ was the tripfag board and people didn't have aneurysms every time they saw one. And VNTS has been operating for years.

>I'm still waiting on why I should care.
Shitposting should never be rewarded.

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>>13598974
>Semantics

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>>13599005
>I started browsing back when /jp/ was the tripfag board and people didn't have aneurysms every time they saw one.
Cool. Care to post your trip?

>And VNTS has been operating for years.
日本語で読むことができるから、ＥＯＰは死ねばいい。

>Shitposting should never be rewarded.
Our definition of "shitposting" seem to differ quite a lot. I see it's spamming threads what's being rewarded.

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>>13599052
>Care to post your trip?
I didn't use one, as I felt that I had to lurk a lot more before putting one on. Plus it's embarrassing as shit.

>日本語で読むことができるから、ＥＯＰは死ねばいい。
お前もかつてEOPだっただろう？

> I see it's spamming threads what's being rewarded.
In general, the "community" makes one thread, posts in that thread until it's pretty much the last thread on the board, then makes the new one. This is how it was until the spammer started uprooting everything.

[Anonymous No.]

Perhaps someone here should take the liberty to remind everyone about Touhouwiki and it's past.

Ironically enough Touhou wiki was a wiki, and then it was moved to the wikia after the original host died. But then got later moved off the wikia onto a brand new wiki.

Despite the fact that it was moved off from there there was a bit of a battle to convince people to use the new wiki. Especially on 4chan at the time. It took a lot of work, but eventually after about a year or two, people stopped using the wikia almost all together and moved to the wiki that we now know as Touhouwiki.

Kancollewiki is pretty much following in the footsteps of the Touhouwiki to some degree. It is also relatively new, so it'll take time to grow, but still when you think about it, haven't lots of wikis that were once part of wikia ultimately moved off of the wikia? It's been proven in cases before that wikia pretty much doesn't give complete freedom to it's users and has been ultimately proven before that it thrives off it's users to make profit for itself?

If memory servers correctly, the only reason the kancolle wikia was made in the first place (from someone here on 4chan) was simply because they didn't have the income to make thier own wiki to host Kancolle and resorted to the wikia. And they even claimed in the end that this was a mistake.

To me we now have someone that's actually trying to make a wiki for the exact purpose that it was originally intended. So while some may see if as one thing, perhaps it might also be a chance for people to build a wiki free from the bounds that is the wikia.

I personally say perhaps contributing to it might not be a bad idea.

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>>13599117
The Kancolle wikia was literally started by a /jp/ user who intended for it to be a translation of wikiwiki, who I hope regrets his decision to this day.

But that aside the only reason anybody uses a wikia is because 1. somebody wants a wiki and 2. that someone is not a sysadmin. It's not very difficult. Every franchise under the sun has one.

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>>13599089
>お前もかつてEOPだっただろう？
俺はイギリス人じゃないから、そんなはずがない。

>In general, the "community" makes one thread, posts in that thread until it's pretty much the last thread on the board, then makes the new one.
Judging from all these threads and opinions the "community" doesn't seem to be as united as you think it is.

>This is how it was until the spammer started uprooting everything.
That's simply not true. We never had to wait to have a new thread until we were on the last page. This is a very recent development propagated by touhoufags, shitposters or even the spammer himself.

>>13599117
Kancolle has dynamic content which touhou didn't have. If the new wiki can't handle the updates and has even worse quality because it's run by a bunch of illiterates then it doesn't deserve any attention.

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>>13598887
>The Touhouwiki moved without anyone in /jp/ about it.

They genuinely seemed a better choice at the time, mostly due to how awful wikia is.

It still turned out to be a mistake.

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>>13599124
>translation
It turned out vastly different from what he envisioned. For example 改修工廠 doesn't have "Akashi" in it.

I should've joined earlier so I'd at least have had a hand in influencing the wiki. Is he still around?

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>>13599131
ＥＯＰには日本語以外の言語が関係ない。

>Judging from all these threads and opinions the "community" doesn't seem to be as united as you think it is.
You're the first person I've seen defend the wikia with anything other than shitposting. I don't actually know if they're behind on updates because I don't use either.

>We never had to wait to have a new thread until we were on the last page.
I myself fought against this convention up for the better part of 2014 especially when threads were hitting thousands of posts, but I'm willing to drop that entirely since it's significantly better than watching /kcg/fag do his first-thread-wins shit.

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>>13599145
Fuck if I know, he's anonymous. The last time I "saw him" was in 2013.

>>13599140
I don't know what the Touhou Wikia would be like if there hadn't been a move but I dropped by and it looks like shit.

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>>13599156
I didn't think he'd have a trip. He probably quit.

On the off-chance he's still playing and he sees this post, I'd ask if he'll try again. Probably not, but it's still worth a shot.

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>>13599166
I don't know why you even care, he just happened to be the first person who gave enough of a shit to start a wiki and didn't actually have much of a hand in building it. Getting "important people" on board really doesn't matter.

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>>13599149
>ＥＯＰには日本語以外の言語が関係ない。
関係があります。ＥＯＰの意味知りますか？　ＥＮＧＬＩＳＨ　ＯＮＬＹ　ＰＥＲＳＯＮ　= 馬鹿イギリス人とアメリカ人と単一言語者の屑ども。

>I myself fought against this convention up for the better part of 2014 especially when threads were hitting thousands of posts, but I'm willing to drop that entirely since it's significantly better than watching /kcg/fag do his first-thread-wins shit.
So you admit you were wrong? And you are even sperging out over the issue and assisting him in destroying kancolle threads here? That's exactly what he wants. Forcing the userbase to adopt some retarded house rules just makes everything worse.
Kcgfag could be easily sidelined by simply making a thread sooner than he does.

[Anonymous No.]

Third person shooter game where you control a single boat when?

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>>13599207
>意味
It's for shitposting at people who don't know Japanese, if you happen to know English and Swedish both you're still an EOP for all practical purposes.

>Kcgfag could be easily sidelined by simply making a thread sooner than he does.
Anything that promotes an "arms race" can't sideline shit. The whole "let's not make too may threads" convention is something was that was agreed on unanimously in the sense that for months, any of the hundreds of posters posting could have started a new thread "early" and nobody did. Idol threads have had house rules for years and are none the worse for it.

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>>13599213
Never, because DMM banned fangames due to a terminal case of overwhelming jewishness. Just import custom skins to other games like everyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

Are you guys really arguing about a wiki?

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>>13599260
People in /jp/ will argue about anything.

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>>13599226
>It's for shitposting at people who don't know Japanese, if you happen to know English and Swedish both you're still an EOP for all practical purposes.
You are completely wrong. It refers to the ability to learn a foreign language, ANY foreign language. There is nothing specific about it being japanese only.
Think about it and you will understand why it doesn't make any sense. There are a lot of russian VNs and translations, but trying to use EOP as an insult against them sounds ridiculous.

>The whole "let's not make too may threads" convention is something was that was agreed on unanimously in the sense that for months, any of the hundreds of posters posting could have started a new thread "early" and nobody did
But that's false, unless you brand everyone who disagrees with being kcgfag, which would be a tragic case of paranoia and racism. It was by no means unanimous. It couldn't even be such in the first place since there are too many TTKs.


>Idol threads have had house rules for years and are none the worse for it.
They don't count since those threads are just the cirlejerk of a dozen or so fags who should just fuck off to /mu/ anyway. They are literally beaten into submission.

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>>13599149
それなら、JIP(日本語読めない百姓)とか改名すればいい。

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>>13599229
Are they really that afraid fan made games are going to take customers away from their Farmville tier webgame?

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>>13599294
In the context of /jp/ nobody cares because 99% of the discussion is about Japanese media. I happened to have grown up bilingual (non-Japanese) but it really never fucking matters.

>It was by no means unanimous.
Any single person could have defied the cabal and made a thread when the page was on page four, but this rarely occurred. The fact that it didn't means that loosely speaking, nobody felt like it.

Incidentally there's a lot more idolfags than there were.

>>13599324
Shit, I'd be. It may be best-in-class when it comes to all those awful stamina-based collecting games but it still sucks.

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>>13599341
>In the context of /jp/ nobody cares because 99% of the discussion is about Japanese media.
That's wrong, because the majority of /jp/'s posters are not english speaking, let alone american. The meme wouldn't be able to catch on if you couldn't use it as a way to mock americans with it.
Try spending some time in /int/ and it will be obvious.

>rarely
>loosely
Now that's quite an interesting way of seeing and reinterpreting of what actually happened.

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>>13599359
>Try spending some time in /int/ and it will be obvious.
We are, in fact, not in /int/, but in /jp/, where we mostly discuss Japanese media, and EOP is for shitting on people who can't read Japanese.

>Now that's quite an interesting way of seeing and reinterpreting of what actually happened.
As far as I can remember, people rarely made them and when they did people rarely posted in them. I put in waffle words because I don't trust my memory and I'm not about to go searching in the archive for that crap.

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>>13599366
We are, in fact, not in /jp/, but on 4chan, where we discuss Japanese media among a diverse group of other interests, and EOP is for shitting on people who are monolingual.

>As far as I can remember, people rarely made them and when they did people rarely posted in them.
Those threads happened quite often and people did post in them. However they got deleted erratically and people didn't know if it's fine to post in them or even worth it anymore, since it might just end up being deleted when janny wakes up.

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>>13599387
>We are, in fact, not in /jp/
I take it English isn't your first language.

>EOP is for shitting on people who are monolingual.
When has anyone ever given a shit that you know some language that's not Japanese here in /jp/, in the context of discussion of Japanese-language media? Ever?

>However they got deleted erratically
This rarely if ever happened if the old thread had hit bump limit, throughout most of 2014 at the least.

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>>13598999
Oh my bad, I made the other one, which already got deleted, while this one stayed up, great.

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>>13599749
It's time.

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>>13599749
Enjoy your completed quests and top tier fodder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13599755
Didn't even take long. I bet getting Yamato is going to drain me several times, though.

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>>13599760
I got every LSC ship from a few tries, often on the first one. LSC is not hard at all. The only ship I'm missing in I-401, but I just stopped caring after 8 failed tries. I have all 6 subs with Maruyu for Orel anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

I will post it here too, just in case.
Visit our steam group and chat with fellow admirals!
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/KanColle

[Anonymous No.]

Is it normal for abyss CVLs to taiha battleships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13599892
fuck off euro trash
i bet you don't even rank

[Anonymous No.]

All 4 girls are sparkling and expedition 2 has gotten me nothing in the last 3 tries.
What the fuck is wrong?

Do you get jew'd after HQ Level 80 or something?

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>>13602834

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>>13602834
Welcome to hard mode.

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>>13603435
hi

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>>13603439

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>>13603493
Another victory for the abyss.
Why fight your enemy when you could just sudoku them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13602834
sparkling doesn't affect item drop rate of the left item (only the right item)

[Anonymous No.]

Will the 100 base boat limit ever increase?

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>>13599213
>>13605079
>boat

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>>13605079
They want you to pay for slots. It's a good incentive for them to continue releasing updates. 100 is enough to play the game without keeping your favorite boats and only focusing on the meta. They do occasionally increase the maximum amount of slots you can buy to keep up with the updates. (I think a recent patch went 240 → 260)

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>>13605152
250, not 240.

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>>13605152
>>13605197
Shit I meant "250, not 260".

[Anonymous No.]

Guys,
I unlocked 5-4 yesterday.
In 6 days time we get a new CA Kai Ni and I read on multiple occasions that 5-4 is superior to 3-2-A leveling for CAs (which has some grounding since it has 100 more base exp per node). If so, what comp should I use?

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>>13605529
Just use 4 CA 2 CV at 3-3.

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>>13605559
3-3-A's not as resource friendly as 3-2-A though, especially with 2 CVs. Then again, you do level more ships at once.

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>>13605569
>3-3-A
Just go all the way. And farm furniture box while you're at it.

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>>13605580
if I go all the way chances are stupidly high my ships will get spun southwards and destroyed by the pre-boss.

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>>13605583
And I don't have the buckets to spam them for leveling my ships when I can avoid it.

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>>13605583
>>13605588
Preboss is easy shit. You don't need saiun for it.

Also you don't need to bucket yellow unless it's dangerously close to orange.

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>>13605589
>preboss is easy shit
For me it isn't. 1CA1BB2CLT2CV during the mochi-quest, the preboss most of the time destroyed my BB and/or one of my CVs even though I had air superiority.

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>>13605589
also I'm aware how basic principles of bucket saving work, thank you very much.

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>>13605569
Not him, but there's also the fact that you can't spam 3-3 all the time, sooner or later you need to swap ships or let them rest, 3-2-A can be grinding to infinity and back without a break.

[Anonymous No.]

I level my boats on quests alone.