エロゲスレ/ Untranslated VN General

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エロゲスレ/ Untranslated VN General Anonymous Tue Jun 2 02:22:33 2015 No.13587741 [Reply] [Original]

Previous thread: >>13562049

This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 02:25:03 2015 No.13587760 >>13587741 >disgaem.png

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 02:28:59 2015 No.13587778 File: 274 KB, 1280x720, girlsbeambitious_riot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck yes I loved that one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 02:53:10 2015 No.13587899 >>13587778 I thought it is a kusoge.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 02:55:11 2015 No.13587908 >>13587741 >>13587778 Surprisingly enjoyable title

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 02:59:14 2015 No.13587940 >>13587899 It wasn't great, but being able to customize the heroines outfits and hairstyles was nice, as they changed in all the CGs too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:01:40 2015 No.13587962 >>13587899 It's not that great but I personally enjoyed the whole poor vs noble school thing. Tamiyasu Tomoe is also always a plus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:02:08 2015 No.13587966 >>13587778 Spoiler that shit, faggot. Now I want to read that but it won't be a suprise anymore. Fuck and thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:05:16 2015 No.13587990 >>13587966 Didn't you realize that CGs appears in the OP?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:07:39 2015 No.13587999 To the anon who was asking about 2ch eroge songs ranking for 2014, I believe this is the video: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25518441

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:17:10 2015 No.13588059 File: 1.36 MB, 1365x762, Lovesick Puppies 01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Picked this up. It's been on my backlog for a while, but I kept on pushing it back because of the name. I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:33:21 2015 No.13588143 >>13588059 >but I kept on pushing it back because of the name. Really? I quite like the title, enough that I've considered playing it even though I don't like moege. Same situation with >>13587741 actually.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:43:12 2015 No.13588191 >>13587808 I think girls who declared they really are not interested in romance are only Sora and Shiho. The rest aren't like that.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:43:43 2015 No.13588196

>>13588143
I just wouldn't be able to think of a more embarrassing name even if I tried. It ended up being unexpectedly good, though. Putting aside the few cheesy lines that started the game, the drama doesn't feel forced and all the girls have something likable about them. The pacing's also great, the scenes are short enough to not bother you when it's a scene with a heroine you don't like, and long enough so when it's a scene you do like you can enjoy it. And it all moves forward at a steady pace so you never get bored.

Are my impressions from the common route, anyway. I just started Hoshina's route, but from all the developments so far I'm looking forward to it quite a bit.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:47:14 2015 No.13588211

So Baidu turned out to be rather good download server when you're using their client. There's an English tutorial available on the internet.

It would be rather smart to install it in a VM and turn it off when you're not downloading though.

Just a heads up if you're looking up something obscure. Chances are someone on Baidu has put it up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:49:59 2015 No.13588231 >>13588196 >I just started Hoshina's route It's all downhill from hers, maybe not so much in Orie's case, but Yuki is best. Pacing during the routes is great, especially compared to the common route that drags a bit at times.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:50:05 2015 No.13588232 >>13588191 It's more like the whole "Girls are sluts, I'll find a pure Yamato Nadeshiko" thing. Probably my dislike for real otaku who are obsessed about that is distorting my view. But I'm starting to like it by now anyway, the heroines are nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:52:45 2015 No.13588244 >>13588196 Yeah but it's a moege. A cheesy, embarrassing title is perfect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:54:49 2015 No.13588254 >>13588232 He's had bad experiences with girls, so it's not like it's not understandable why he acts that way, he just amps it with otakuness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 03:59:49 2015 No.13588275 Reposting >>13586864

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 04:02:56 2015 No.13588282 >>13588275 Ask the Alicesoft general?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 04:30:47 2015 No.13588382 >>13587741 do you guys have a no cd patch for 黄昏のシンセミア? I can't find it, and in the torrent I downloaded there was only the iso.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 04:34:02 2015 No.13588394 >>13588382 On holyseal as usual.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 04:38:56 2015 No.13588406
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Pretty new to untranslated VNs but I just finished reading SubaHibi.
I wanted to talk a bit about the ending so gonna make sure my SPOILER tags work.
SUBAHIBI SPOILERS
Tsui no Sora 2, Ayana's 7 hypothesis, the information I gathered from other places had some cool theories, but what do you guys think? Was the one soul referring to us, the reader? Anything else anyone would like to add?

I feel like I need to read this again sometime. There's so much information throughout and it's really hard to catch it all in one read. Mind boggling and amazing VN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 04:55:22 2015 No.13588450 >>13588394 there's only a link for the psp version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 05:17:09 2015 No.13588502 >>13588382 It's literally on Nyaa you eop scum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 05:37:48 2015 No.13588543 I just find it how large the VN selection there is. How can a small country like Japan write so much in just 30-40 years? It makes me jealous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 05:53:22 2015 No.13588574 >>13588543 Jealous of what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 05:58:23 2015 No.13588590 >>13588574 My country is bigger but we have no "visual novel"/eroge scene.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 06:00:46 2015 No.13588594 >>13588590 Why would you want to read eroge made by filthy gaijin? You can't read Japanese or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 06:02:45 2015 No.13588602 >>13588594 It's not about "wanting to", I'm just lamenting if my country has a scene like in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 07:00:35 2015 No.13588704 >>13588450 http://holyseal.net/cgi-bin/mlistview.cgi?prdcode=9242 修正パッチver.1.04 is the newest patch. アクティベーション解除パッチ is an officially released DRM remover. Next time at least try.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:04:09 2015 No.13589075 >>13588543 >small country Their population is bigger than 130 million and They are the 9. biggest country, what the fuck are you talking about? Your country may be bigger than them, but they are definitely not small at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:20:04 2015 No.13589092 >>13589075 A lot of people have a really distorted view of Japan as a small/irrelevant country despite it having the third largest economy and tenth largest population. It's bizarre. It has twice the population of the United Kingdom for Christ's sake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:26:03 2015 No.13589108 >>13589075 >>13589092 Mainly because its physical size is really small.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:28:11 2015 No.13589113 >>13588502 >It's literally on Nyaa you eop scum. As opposed to "figuratively on Nyaa you eop scum"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:31:32 2015 No.13589116 >>13588282 But he said according to jaypee

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:32:08 2015 No.13589118 How is love, VAMPIRE FLOWERS? I am a little hesitant 'cause of the name. I don't usually read vampire stories.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:32:17 2015 No.13589119 >>13589108 So are the U.K and Germany, yet they're very influential.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:34:06 2015 No.13589126
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BugBug2015年7月号より(※一部抜粋)
タイトル：i Virgin
ブランド：未定(ジェリーフィッシュ OR 新ブランド)
発売日：未定
価格：未定
ジャンル：AVG
メディア：未定
ボイス：あり
アニメ：あり
原画：浅川しな
シナリオ：MAB

・新ブランドを設立するかも！？
・本作は”おねショタ”もの
・タイトルは半分正式
アルファベットと日本語をくっつけたタイトルにする予定
・ヒロインは「近所のお姉さん」「Hな人妻」「コミュ障でぼっちでひきこもり」の3人
・分岐はほとんどなく、シリアスや重い要素もないラブコメ的な内容
・「SISTERS ULTRA EDITION」の売上がよかったので外伝製作決定
ほか、原画担当の浅川しなさんや作品、各キャラの詳細は本誌にて(ティザームービーも有り)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:35:40 2015 No.13589129 >>13589108 Japan is about 1.5x larger than the united kingdom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:35:49 2015 No.13589132 >>13589116 He might actually get a answer opposed to here and I'm pretty sure the Alicesoft general has that same opinion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:37:13 2015 No.13589139 Since most visual novels are shit, I have decided to write my own. For that purpose I have started learning Japanese since today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:44:21 2015 No.13589153 >>13589139 Godspeed

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:45:48 2015 No.13589157

>>13589113
Why can't people understand that you can use the word literally figuratively just like any other word? It's a fucking intensifier. Do you also take "really" to mean "opposed to fantasy"? Do you reply to "I really liked this eroge" with "as opposed to fantastically liking this eroge?".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:49:33 2015 No.13589168 >>13589157 I could agree with the misuse of literally, but i don't think really can only be understood as the opposite of fantastically.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:51:29 2015 No.13589173 >>13589168 There's no misuse, "literally" is literally listed as an intensifier in dictionaries. Just look it up and you will see.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:51:41 2015 No.13589174 >>13589157 "Literally" is a buzzword you use when you can't find better way to give your words worth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:52:40 2015 No.13589181 >>13589174 "Buzzword" is a buzzword you use when you can't explain why the usage of some word is bad.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 10:53:58 2015 No.13589185

>>13589168
Language changes with time. Arguing for the misuse of a word that is commonly used in a certain way would be like arguing against the use of "awesome" or "cool". The thing you're describing with those word isn't cold or inspiring awe, probably, but nobody cares. Same with "ironic" lately.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:05:18 2015 No.13589225 >>13589113 You're literally retarded.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:10:04 2015 No.13589238 >>13589118 Apparently it's kind of shit . I can't find that game thread in 2ch, is it just me or it really doesn't exist? I really expecting a lot since I like their previous title and the VA line up+arts looks really good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:14:39 2015 No.13589249 >>13589118 Boring, and I don't mean it in a 'it's a moege so it's boring' way, it's just a drag, unfunny, lacks charm and it's just dull to read.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:15:15 2015 No.13589252

>>13587778
They should have never added any drama into it. The common route and the beginning parts of the heroines' routes were pretty enjoyable until they start the "hurr we aren't allowed to date because of social status" drama. It wouldn't be that awful if it wasn't recycled in three out of all four routes.

>>13588211
>So Baidu turned out to be rather good download server when you're using their client
I can also attest to that. You can find a good selection of old untranslated PS2 games and some VNs there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:17:07 2015 No.13589258 >>13589252 >It wouldn't be that awful if it wasn't recycled in three out of all four routes. Just reading that reminds of that bullshit in Princess lover

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:18:11 2015 No.13589260 >>13589252 >You can find a good selection of old untranslated PS2 games and some VNs there. I was surprised by it, really nice. Jdownloader also makes downloading from it really good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:21:46 2015 No.13589271 >>13589238 >>13589249 Thank you, I'm surprised too since lovesick puppies was one of my favorite games of the genre. I have other things to play.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:23:57 2015 No.13589279 [DELETED]

>>13589252
>"hurr we aren't allowed to date because of social status"
It wasn't that bad in Erena's route considering her opinion and position on the matter from what I remember

> It wouldn't be that awful if it wasn't recycled in three out of all four routes.
(Providing I'm remembering all of this correctly) While Sena's route didn't have any of the social status bullshit instead it came with a stupid love triangle with Vice(?) chairman which was arguably worse than the social status problems in Erena's and Fuuka's route. Iseri's route was pure bullshit in that regard though which made her route painful to read in multiple situations although it was saved only due to Iseri herself being from what I remember a enjoyable heroine.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:25:05 2015 No.13589284

>>13589252
>"hurr we aren't allowed to date because of social status"
It wasn't that bad in Erena's route considering her opinion and position on the matter from what I remember

> It wouldn't be that awful if it wasn't recycled in three out of all four routes.
(Providing I'm remembering all of this correctly) While Sena's route didn't have any of the social status bullshit instead it came with a stupid love triangle with Vice(?) chairman which was arguably worse than the social status problems in Erena's and Fuuka's route. Iseri's route was pure bullshit in that regard though which made her route painful to read in multiple situations although it was saved only due to Iseri herself being from what I remember a enjoyable heroine. and forgetting spoilers is always annoying.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:35:17 2015 No.13589312

>>13589284
>It wasn't that bad in Erena's route considering her opinion and position on the matter from what I remember
The problem was the she's more assertive during the common and other heroines' routes, but during her own route she gets booted out from the student council and starts to mope like Fuuka and Iseri do in their respective routes so it ends up being almost the same thing.
And yeah, Sena's route wasn't that stellar either but at least it was something different from the other three and the blue haired noble wasn't a complete dick this time around.

The game would have been better off if it focused more on the comedy, the peasants vs. nobles "battles" and other hijinks instead of trying to come up with serious and unfun drama.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:35:19 2015 No.13589313

>>13588406
Ayana's hypotheses aren't meant to be taken seriously, as they are really just a way of driving home the point that even if they were true, nothing could be said as there can be no answer as to whether they are true or not. This is made pretty clear when Ayana asks Yuki "which one does she prefer?" or something along the lines of that.
Hypothesis 7 I'm pretty sure SCA自 threw in there as a reference to Tsui no Sora (the original game).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:37:34 2015 No.13589318 >>13587741 For i second i trough those were youmu and meiling

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 11:41:13 2015 No.13589335 >>13589126 A new Jellyfish work? My body is ready but will probably submit to anything they do yet again. I like the heroine archetypes, too. Also excited for any Sisters Gaiden they might make, that game needed more scenes for Akiko and Haruka.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 12:14:21 2015 No.13589426 >>13589313 Hypothesis 7 is more than that.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 12:16:29 2015 No.13589432
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The more I read about it, the more ridiculous it sounds. Eustia-like story in a school setting + nationalistic overtones doesn't really seem like mach made in heaven. I'll still try it though.

Also the art got really nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 12:17:39 2015 No.13589434 >>13589432 Didn't they already say it wouldn't get really serious or anything after a bit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 12:18:30 2015 No.13589435 >>13589426 Care to expand?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 12:20:25 2015 No.13589440 >>13589434 Did they? Initially the said it'll be kinda between Eustia and their usual lightness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 12:21:37 2015 No.13589444 >>13589440 I remember reading it would just go full gakuenmono after the beginning and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 12:23:59 2015 No.13589448 >>13589444 Well, that only makes it sound more weird, having such heavy set-up and all.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 12:46:09 2015 No.13589526

>>13589432
When the previews for Daitoushokan came out it looked like the most generic moe shit possible, but it turned out really good. I'm willing to give anything August a try and I'd reserve judgement, at least until after I play the trial.

>>13589434
>>13589435
>>13589440
>>13589444

I remember reading this somewhere as well, but I'm hoping it's only half true as it'll be a waste of an interesting set up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 12:48:43 2015 No.13589537 >>13589526 Anything kinda standard would look generic with Eustia as the previous title for comparison. And yeah, I liked Daitoshokan a lot too. It wasn't anything that would blow you away, but it was good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 14:04:41 2015 No.13589776 Touka Gettan, is it good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 14:15:14 2015 No.13589806 >>13589126 Looks like a watashi rip off.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 14:33:42 2015 No.13589859

Can you tell me locations of gems in Maid in Bunny? I've been playing it for more than a year and I am still missing five of them.
Probably, I won't get the answer I want. There is literally only comprehensive walkthrough in existance that I found on a Chinese board and it only mentions several gems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 15:57:04 2015 No.13590086 File: 16 KB, 961x293, g.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >エロゲを買う人は少なからず「エロい展開が好き。それはもう誰にも否定出来ない事実です。 Do you agree?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 16:16:07 2015 No.13590130 >>13588602 First off you have to have a "culture of cute" which I'm pretty sure nowhere else but Japan openly encourages that. Second develop an undergound gaming culture that spawns a trend. That's how VN's started out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 16:19:27 2015 No.13590139 Any VN's that heavily focus on rap culture? I've had my fair share of butt rock VN's.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 17:01:11 2015 No.13590319 >>13590139 Rap culture doesn't really exist outside America.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 17:05:16 2015 No.13590343 File: 111 KB, 661x475, Baka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13590319 That doesn't stop Japan from aping 'murrikan culture for their powerpoint porn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 17:12:34 2015 No.13590383 >>13590139 What do you expect? Drug dealing and drive-bys in the ghettos of Shibuya?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 17:13:59 2015 No.13590392 >>13590383 That's what I expected when I played Gangsta Republica. Boy, was I dead wrong.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:05:17 2015 No.13590683

>>13589432
>nationalistic overtones
I also thought about that, but it's weird, since from what I've read 榊原拓 is a bit of a 改革派. Maybe it will probably turn that around. The setting of the MC having to do with the enemy empire and Akari's past and mom's death, and one of the heroines (Elsa I think) also wants to disassemble inequality and the class system in the empire, sounds like it would ultimately develop into a "let's stop fighting" kind of thing. Or at least I hope so, I'm not fond of the "protect our culture from the evil foreigners" stuff.

>>13588594
What a weeaboo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:08:12 2015 No.13590701 >>13590319 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/B系

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:21:04 2015 No.13590786 >>13590683 Hah, you're just saying that since you're likely from a country that never suffered humiliating defeat. How it must be such a privilege never knowing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:26:57 2015 No.13590823 >>13590786 Your baseless assumption is pretty funny because that's exactly what happened in my country. You just realize that that mentality is what creates the problem in the first place.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:33:44 2015 No.13590854

>>13590139
For some reason, the Japanese writers tend to shy away from portraying imperfect individuals rising within a degenerate, unforgiving, and self-consuming society that actively derides community consciousness and altruistic intentions, which in my opinion is the largest "negative" image of the struggle of a thug.

Like, you can have a character that comes from such an environment who escapes and subsequently conforms into larger society, but I've never seen a depiction outside of doujinshi and amateur works where someone achieves a success in a system where doing so comes at the cost of all other individuals, potential or otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:38:33 2015 No.13590884 >>13590139 While not really rap, some things involving yakuza may deal with somewhat similar themes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:44:00 2015 No.13590911 >>13590854 There are plenty of VN's that feature what you mention (the infamous G-Senjou already comes to mind.), just not in a niggerhood context.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:48:58 2015 No.13590940 >>13590823 Come back to me when your shitty country's pop culture puts out cute girl erotic adventure games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:50:33 2015 No.13590952 >>13590940 Why are you getting so buttblasted about it? Fuck off, fucking weeaboo. You're not Japanese.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:55:51 2015 No.13590990

>>13590952
Stop assuming I am one just because I don't put down Japan at every single opportunity like any other "cool 4channer." Nationalistic themes are essential for a nation, especially one that's been through hell and back and is still not out of the back burner.

What? Are you one of those libtards who are more than willing to take down nation borders and let other monkeys invade your land? Pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 18:57:53 2015 No.13590999 >>13590990 Oh god. Just fuck off to /weebpol/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:00:51 2015 No.13591017 >>13590999 Ain't going anywhere pal, just like the things you so hate. Better live with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:02:38 2015 No.13591025 >>13590940 >cute girl erotic adventure games Even Japanese are ashamed of their otaku culture. That's definitely not a good example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:04:36 2015 No.13591040 >>13591025 I don't give a fuck about normie westaboo scum.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:07:21 2015 No.13591055

>>13589313
I think it's more than that though.
*SUBAHIBI SPOILERS*
Without her hypothesis, especially the 7th one the game's many plot holes don't fill up. Much of the game is still left unanswered with it, but we can look back at some of the text and see that a hypothesis like 7 is the only explanation for some of the events--but it doesn't really explain why. I think my biggest complaint that I don't understand though, is what was the purpose of Zakuro? For the two to meet to complete Tsui no Sora? (the end of the game) I feel like I need to re-read rabbit hole 1 now that I've finished the game.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:10:23 2015 No.13591068

>>13590990
>>13591017
So you're accusing me of putting down Japan for calling _you_ a weeaboo, then I'm supposed to be a libtard that wants to take down borders just for saying I'm not fond of nationalistic elements in fiction, and then I'm supposed to hate, I don't know? What am I supposed to be hating here? How did you assume all of these things from my posts? You're fucking insane. You also forgot to call me a feminist Marxist jew for not agreeing with you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:10:47 2015 No.13591070 >>13591055 Did you play Sumika's route? Takuji wouldn't have gone insane if Zakuro hadn't killed herself. Tomosane would have destroyed Takuji as planned, leaving Yuki as the sole personality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:11:09 2015 No.13591073 >>13591025 I for one don't give a shit on how the japs are ashamed of otaku culture, considering how varied and entertaining it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:12:03 2015 No.13591076 >>13591068 Yeah you're those too. You're gonna have to live with those and it's going to suck. Hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:13:18 2015 No.13591083 >>13591068 He's saying the nationalist overtones wouldn't go away and people who support that wouldn't either. You have to live with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:13:32 2015 No.13591085 >>13591070 Sorry, meant Kimika, not Sumika.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:15:48 2015 No.13591091 >>13591083 Okay. So what does that have to do with anything I said in my posts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:17:00 2015 No.13591096 >>13591070 You mean Kimika? Yeah I got all the endings, but I didn't think about that. I'm more just kind of upset how Zakuro's route ended, and then it's the last we ever saw of her essentially. But yeah, your reasoning makes a lot of sense, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:18:02 2015 No.13591101 >>13591091 You are going to live with the things you supposedly hate. In this case, "weeaboo" and "nationalist overtones" because some people prefer maintain a scene and culture than blanda up.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:18:41 2015 No.13591103

Just started playing Django. Holy shit, that OP song is awesome and it seems like it'll be a fun read full of crazy shenanigans.

I miss old Nitroplus. Some great reads there which I plan to clear off my backlog.
As an aside, what's the artist getting up to nowadays? Best eroge artist IMO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:22:24 2015 No.13591118 >>13590130 So basically what you are saying that the VN scene can only grow and foster in Nipland.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:23:24 2015 No.13591123 >>13591118 >what you are saying is that*

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:25:23 2015 No.13591131 >>13591118 Surprise, surprise isn't it? Maybe Chinks and Gooks can too, but they're too busy pirating off of Japan since they're too jelly making real product.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:29:45 2015 No.13591144 >>13591131 Me too.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:32:03 2015 No.13591153

>>13591101
I never said I wanted them to disappear. I wasn't even talking about real life in the first place.

I said I'm not fond of nationalistic elements in fiction because writers who write about it are completely obnoxious about it, and he just proved it with his angry, accusing and overly defensive posts. Also I wasn't expecting to be immediately attacked for this in the fucking VN General and I'm not willing to discuss it here either, so I told him to just fuck off and leave me alone. I'm also not "putting down Japan" but if you're not Japanese and you're getting so worked up over Japanese culture you're the definition of a weeaboo.

Secondly, and more importantly, I said this because 榊原拓 and 早狩武志 are the only eroge writers I know that have actively expressed reformist sentiments, politically speaking, and Sen no Hatou being written by 榊原拓 I'm not expecting a nationalistic work. I don't see how I'm in the wrong for saying this.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:35:40 2015 No.13591165

>>13591153
Well, it's a free speech country so nah, he gets to post as he likes.

Then again, he shouldn't be getting defensive over being called a weeaboo either, all jokes aside, there's nothing wrong with being a weeaboo so to speak.

>I don't see how I'm in the wrong for saying this.
Because an eroge doesn't have to stay in the same political opinion all the times, if he goes blanda up all the way, some people will be against it too, just like you how dislike nationalist tones.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 19:36:40 2015 No.13591166 >>13591165 >Because a writer doesn't have to*

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:03:24 2015 No.13591260
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So I've read a few untranslated VNs now (Grisaia Trilogy, SubaHibi) and I'm gonna start Baldr Sky.
I have Dive 1 and Dive 2 installed and apparently I'm supposed to load Dive 2 and use the patch since it'll sync the games.

Anything else I should know before I start this game?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:13:32 2015 No.13591292 >>13591165 >it's a free speech country so nah, he gets to post as he likes. "When your argument is so awful your only defense is that it isn't literally illegal to express"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:33:42 2015 No.13591375 >>13591260 Stop reading things with Atlas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:34:46 2015 No.13591380 >>13591165 >>13591101 What the hell is blanda? Are we being raided by /pol/ again?

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:35:14 2015 No.13591385

>>13591055
What plot holes are on your mind?
Rabbit Hole 1 is clearly dreamlike and most likely a dream that Takuji had at some point after the death of Zakuro. It has a lot of memories mixed into it such as the scene where Yuki and Zakuro were at the park together and a bunch of literary references that would have also been in his repressed memories. Even though Yuki/Tomosane are different personalities, they still exist in the same mind which makes sense that Takuji would still have their memories.
Rabbit Hole 1 ends in the same place at the same time as the "real" timeline, so it could be what Takuji had envisioned Tsui no Sora as.
That's just one way of reasoning it though, Rabbit Hole 1 could be the "reality" or an alternate reality, and it wouldn't make a difference.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:38:28 2015 No.13591401 >>13591375 Agreed, he should use google.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:40:44 2015 No.13591412 >>13591292 There's no right or wrong argument here, just simple people expressing their opinions. >>13591380 Please google it "kudasai". It's used so commonly now that I assume everyone know the word.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:43:01 2015 No.13591429

>>13591385
I guess plot hole wasn't the right word, there's just a lot that felt unfinished or unexplained.

Zakuro's "rebirth" her previous memories in Looking Glass Insects. I thought that her rebirth took her into Rabbit Hole 1, where things proceeded rather smoothly and she had wonderful days. But in the end, we never really found out.

I'm almost thinking it was for the purpose of Sakura no Uta, or something.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:44:36 2015 No.13591439

>>13591401
No. Bing is the best translator.

But seriously, you've only read a few VNs, and they just happen to be ones all hyped up and while certainly not what I'd say are difficult, are very far from entry level. Taking shortcuts is only fucking yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:46:10 2015 No.13591449 >>13591375 My comprehensions getting a lot better and I just look up kanji that I don't know with it. I'm not really relying on it, it just helps for quick and easy look up. I'll probably be reading completely raw in a few more VNs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:48:10 2015 No.13591462 >>13591449 That's how Fuwanovel translates too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:50:20 2015 No.13591475 >>13591462 Fuwanovel also looks up words in the dictionary, but that shouldn't stop anyone who's trying to learn from also doing so.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:54:34 2015 No.13591489

>>13591165
Thanks for the civil post.

>all jokes aside, there's nothing wrong with being a weeaboo so to speak
Weeaboos have been long frowned upon in 4chan, and even in /jp/, for several good reasons, one of these clearly demonstrated in this thread.
Let me quote a section from the old /jp/ rules:

>Finally, if you want to talk about Japanese history and culture, go somewhere else, nobody here knows or cares for that stuff. /jp/ was created as a board to get rid of Touhou and visual novels from /a/, it was never intended to be a board about Japanese culture. Most of the users here don't care about Japan, we only care about lolis and doujin games.

It seems times have changed. I don't mind them being here, but that doesn't mean I'll treat them well whenever they start getting defensive over Japan. But let's stop the meta.

>Because an eroge doesn't have to stay in the same political opinion all the times
You're grasping at straws, now.
Taking the opposite example, Takahiro is a known nationalist and likewise, I would expect his future works to have some nationalistic elements (or at the very least, not anti-nationalistic ones); that's normal and fine.

But I would be surprised if he suddenly came out with a work with anti-nationalistic elements. I'm not saying it's impossible, I just would be surprised, that's all. It's just the least likely scenario considering his views.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:54:46 2015 No.13591491
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>>13591429
By "rebirth" do you mean the スパイラルマタイ stuff? I'm pretty certain that was all made up so that the other girls would have someone to kill themselves with. Considering Zakuro was hallucinating a bunch earlier, I wouldn't put it past her to believe that she really did have previous memories as an angel knight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:56:27 2015 No.13591503 >>13591475 If he wants to learn, he should study. You don't learn from something that gets things wrong all the time. Well, you do learn something, but you don't learn what's correct.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:57:22 2015 No.13591507

>>13591462
I mean if I didn't look kanji up I don't remember I wouldn't be able to read them. It's not like I just dove straight into VNs, I've been doing my reps for years, but I still run into some new things.

>>13591491
Yeah I was referring to that.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:57:48 2015 No.13591510

>>13591489
>>13591165
I think this is a classic example of a word having its meaning deprecated. One of you is thinking of Weeaboo as an obnoxious person who loves Japan way too much, one of you is thinking of weeaboo as "someone interested in Japanese stuff".

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:58:22 2015 No.13591512

>>13591489
>Weeaboos have been long frowned upon in 4chan, and even in /jp/, for several good reasons, one of these clearly demonstrated in this thread.
They can be frowned on all they want, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with them. Not to mention the rules are becoming more and more outdated anyway, considering lewd lolis aren't even that welcome anymore.
>I'm not saying it's impossible, I just would be surprised, that's all. It's just the least likely scenario considering his views.
As I said, there would be people complaining that he changes his views, just like you do know, but there's nothing preventing a writer from changing his political opinion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:59:01 2015 No.13591513 >>13591412 >It's used so commonly now that I assume everyone know the word. Maybe among the degenerate /pol/-tier shitstains you associate with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 20:59:23 2015 No.13591516 >>13591512 >just like you do now*

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:00:25 2015 No.13591521
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As a someone who got disappointment from both of あやかしコントラクト and ピュア×コネクト May is not going so great for me. I'll continue to read both of them since I liked a couple of heroines, but seriously they are not great at all.

Specially あやかしコントラクト's pace is too fast, not like their older games at all. It maybe because I'm only at the first parts of common route but thanks to that character personality feels like too swallow. Well since I like the "group of full weirds" type thing I'm enjoying it though, and I'm expecting it to get better as I continue.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:00:26 2015 No.13591522

>>13590911
The key difference is that the context of those VNs occurs in a functioning society where the brutality and the breeding of sociopaths is more intentional and groomed than an active, arbitrary attack on altruistic intentions which force any member in that society to adapt with antisocial traits.

Like, being the unhinged product of a yakuza family does create monsters, but it also gives the hellspawn business skills, cutthroat employability, and a way to operate within larger society, like Mafia gangsters.

Hood culture robs those inside of it of a means to achieve anything outside of the hood, and degenerates power and social structure in very violent and unstable manners. The protag from G-Senjou wouldn't last in the hood, even if he still possessed his skills, because there is really nothing to build upon that would not be actively undermined by the community.

Of course, that type of story does much better for a song than a VN, because any somewhat-critical look at thug life would quickly invalidate its glamor, especially to a Japanese audience.

Source: I used to work in East St. Louis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:00:49 2015 No.13591525 >>13591513 Not really, the word didn't even originate from the board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:02:34 2015 No.13591535 >>13591525 You're still the only person to use it in /jp/ in the last year and even before that it looks like it was used exclusively by shitposters. Take your culture somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:03:15 2015 No.13591538 >>13591260 Use melee equips.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:04:33 2015 No.13591540 >>13591535 >>/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=blanda The word dates back to 2012, it's not a new word even on /jp/. And even if it's used by shitposters, so what? The problem are shitposters, not the word itself.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:05:56 2015 No.13591548

>>13591512
>As I said, there would be people complaining that he changes his views, just like you do know, but there's nothing preventing a writer from changing his political opinion.
We're going in circles here, we basically agree but you seem to imply that it's normal for him to suddenly become a nationalist while I'm saying it's unlikely for that to happen. Either way, we won't know for sure until Sen no Hatou is released. It's all speculation. And considering that they plan to go for a more light-hearted work, maybe it won't even be either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:06:46 2015 No.13591551 >>13591540 >The word dates back to 2012, it's not a new word Nobody here should be obligated to know what it means any more than they should be expected to know any other foreign shitposting memes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:07:39 2015 No.13591556 Where's the angry anon who tells people who discuss about text hookers and the like to fuck off? Well, fuck off. This is the VN General, not DJT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:07:49 2015 No.13591558 >>13591540 Not him but that's only 1 page and a half of results. Definitely not "used so commonly now".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:08:41 2015 No.13591563 >>13591551 I don't expect you to know, brah. I just assume so because it's kind of a common word.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:09:08 2015 No.13591568 >>13591563 Maybe among the degenerate /pol/-tier shitstains you associate with.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:11:42 2015 No.13591583 >>13591548 Well, yeah, I'm just saying if the writer decides to change his political opinion, he's free to do so. He doesn't have to stay consistent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:13:45 2015 No.13591599 >>13591558 >>13591568 Well, maybe I should just rephrase it to "its use dated back to 2011-2012".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:16:20 2015 No.13591613 >>13591568 /pol/'s entire thing is anti-degeneracy last time I checked, what about it is degenerate?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:19:12 2015 No.13591633 >>13591613 The amount of time it spends shitposting in other boards expecting everybody else to follow along.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:20:34 2015 No.13591640

>>13591510
A people can only get offended by weeaboo if he's ashamed of it.

Nowadays, I adopt the stand "Proud to be Weeaboo" so the word means nothing to me.

I used to have anti-Japan phase in the yesteryear but I have come back full force since western entertainment is so sterile now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:21:36 2015 No.13591652 >>13591640 >A people can A person*

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:26:01 2015 No.13591672

>>13591640
See, you don't really understand "weeaboo" like older people do. Weeaboo is exclusively used to refer to obnoxious, outspoken, japanophiles who are pretty dumb and or immature. Saying "proud to be weeaboo" is like saynig "proud to be a rude dick". It's OK to like Japanese culture, this is the fucking visual novel thread on fucking /jp/. But a weeaboo isn't just someone who likes Japanese entertainment. It's someone who likes Japan a whole fucking lot, is obnoxious about it, and is pretty dumb/immature about the whole thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:26:10 2015 No.13591676 >>13591633 That's not really degenerate, that's just having too much free time.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:29:03 2015 No.13591695

>>13591672
Weeaboo is being a japanophile, like this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafcadio_Hearn

There are various types of japanophiles, weeaboo doesn't have an inherent negative meaning, just that people assume it so.

And then again, it's also okay to "proud to be a rude dick", I'm also a fan of Southern American culture after all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:31:24 2015 No.13591701 >>13591695 Don't they want to promote their "southern hospitality" instead of their xenophobic and pedestrian personas?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:31:55 2015 No.13591703 >>13591695 I'm explaining how we understand the term and use it. Your newfag approximation is what's causing this argument about weeaboos.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:33:11 2015 No.13591713 >>13591701 Southern people welcome people who like to share their culture. If they want to change it, of course the South is going to hate it.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:34:53 2015 No.13591720

>>13591703
I'm sorry but weeaboo is just a substitute for the word japanophile, moot intended it to be so.

Just that people generally badmouth these types so it creates a negative feeling around the word, but the word itself is clean.

Nowadays we have slavaboo, wehraboo, ameriboo so I figure nobody give a damn about what culture people like anymore.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:37:35 2015 No.13591739

>>13591720
Who's moot? But anyway, it was used in an exclusively negative context and many people still have that understanding of it. Understand - what you think weeaboo means, and what that other guy thinks weeaboo means, are completely different whether you accept that or not. You can't argue like that, when your language is fundamentally different. Your beetle isn't his beetle. So, let it rest, if you can't understand his viewpoint without shoving your own into it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:37:49 2015 No.13591741 >>13591720 Today "nigger" is a substitute for "black person" but they're still not used in the same way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:38:11 2015 No.13591749 >>13591720 >I'm sorry but weeaboo is just a substitute for the word japanophile, moot intended it to be so. No. "Weeaboo" was a word filter for "Wapanese", which has all these negative connotations and more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:38:46 2015 No.13591753 >>13591720 It's a double standard. It's okay to be an Xaboo as long as it's not Japan because apparently only the latter attracts the most most obnoxious wastes of space in the whole world and the former only has sensible curiosity seekers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:39:43 2015 No.13591760 >>13591741 Nigger is indeed a substitute for black person though, just that black people usually get mad when non-black person uses the word, which is kinda hypocritical.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:40:25 2015 No.13591763 /jp/ - identity politics

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:41:14 2015 No.13591767 >>13591760 Do you just have no idea what "connotation" is?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:41:20 2015 No.13591768 >>13591521 Thanks a lot, I was also looking forward to both of them (I liked AXL previous works), and also Vampire Flowers, which others also said it was boring. I have nothing else to look forward to except for a few nukige. Backlog time I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:42:42 2015 No.13591773 >>13591739 The only difference between his definition and mine is that he has the obnoxious part, which is pretty subjective by all means. >>13591749 Wapanese is just another word for japanophile though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:43:56 2015 No.13591778 >>13591767 Yeah, I do, but I don't believe in it. A word is innocent, only the intents behind it might be not.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:47:59 2015 No.13591802

>>13591760
>>13591778
Japanese people also get offended when they get called "Jap" by foreigners, because the word was used derogatorily by Americans back in WWII. It has a discriminatory historical context.

>>13591773
Wapanese is even worse than Japanophile. It's short for Wanna-be-Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:48:08 2015 No.13591804 >>13591778 Maximum autism, man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:49:46 2015 No.13591810 Here friends this helpful article should get you up to date in no time! http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/weeaboo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:50:54 2015 No.13591814 >>13591802 Yeah, it's their problem to be offended though. Offense are taken, not given.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:51:00 2015 No.13591816 >>13591804 Pot calling kettle black.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:53:48 2015 No.13591826 >>13591816 And they're both still black.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:54:01 2015 No.13591827 >>13591814 You don't need to be offended when I call you a pedantic shit-eating retard who's shitting up a thread because he desperately needs to overturn the way a word's been used continuously for a decade, but you should still stop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:54:05 2015 No.13591829 This is figuratively the dumbest argument I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:54:42 2015 No.13591832 >>13591826 I prefer nigger.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:56:37 2015 No.13591842 >>13591829 As opposed to "literally the dumbest argument I've ever seen"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:57:22 2015 No.13591845 >>13591842 Yep.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 21:58:13 2015 No.13591850 >>13591827 Okay, brah, I figure arguing on wouldn't change my point of view or your so there's no need.

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 22:34:48 2015 No.13592012

>>13591695
>>13591773
>>13591850

I just waltzed on this thread, but I must say this.

If this is the same person, and you are not trying to troll, then you are being the most close-minded in this thread.

Your definition of "weeaboo" is correct in your context. His definition of "weeaboo" is correct in his context. Your context, however, seems to only consist of yourself on /jp/, while the other has at least several posters generally in agreement with one another.

At the very least, recognize that you are barking up the wrong tree, and directly conflicting with the life experiences of multiple persons by trying to pursue this redefinition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 22:41:57 2015 No.13592045 Anyone tried すみれ or なついろレシピ yet?

Anonymous Tue Jun 2 22:46:10 2015 No.13592063

>>13592012
You are all quoting me, so yeah, it's the same person.

And I don't think I'm particularly close-minded in this issue because weeaboo = japanophile has a broader meaning than weeaboo = obnoxious/bad/"negative" japanophile, weeaboo has potential to be both.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 23:01:06 2015 No.13592139 >>13592045 Natsuiro Recipe's trial was very cute, but pretty badly written and had some terrible voice acting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 23:07:49 2015 No.13592169 Why don't you guys just chill out and go fap to some cute eroge girls?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 23:11:31 2015 No.13592187 >>13592169 I'm playing some otokonoko eroge right now, dude. I want to fuck a trap, dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 23:28:06 2015 No.13592268 >『サクラノ詩-櫻の森の上を舞う-』スタッフは、【原画】狗神煌／籠目／基４％【シナリオ】すかぢ／浅生詠　となります。（他）となっているのは分量の差です。ちなみにシナリオは鳥谷真琴ルートを浅生さんが担当されています。基４％氏の担当についてはネタばれにもなりますので……。 RIP karory will be missed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 23:38:42 2015 No.13592319 >>13592187 >fuck Meant to say rape. Traps need no love, only pure concentrated cock lust.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 2 23:57:42 2015 No.13592384 >>13592268 rip tsukinon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 00:08:43 2015 No.13592417 >>13592045 Natsuiro seems good so far. I just love imouto that work hard and the rural setting is good too. Sumire is kind of funny too, it has an interesting gimmick where you talk with heroines of past nekoneko games and also Narcissu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 00:50:05 2015 No.13592557 >>13592045 Sumire is just perfect, but I think /jp/ has not enough ねこ房s to agree with me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 00:52:18 2015 No.13592566 >>13590086 With the part you quoted or the review as a whole?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 00:54:18 2015 No.13592571 >>13591412 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 00:56:12 2015 No.13592577 >>13591412 Just to inform people this "kudasai guy" is eop who post in vnts thread. Just ignore this retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 00:59:27 2015 No.13592589 >>13592577 Please don't single me out "kudasai".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 01:01:49 2015 No.13592599 >>13591103 Finished working on 百花繚乱 and started working on ソード＆ウィザーズ (since Django was his last eroge work).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 01:51:24 2015 No.13592766 >>13592566 Mainly the part I quoted.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 01:52:17 2015 No.13592769 PureXConnect is better than Fureraba... and i fucking LOVED Fureraba.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 01:59:34 2015 No.13592797 File: 68 KB, 640x640, rgfgf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So are you guys actually fluent or using machine translators?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:06:51 2015 No.13592814 >>13592797 Neither, I just look at the pictures

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:08:08 2015 No.13592819 >>13592797 I turned Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:09:41 2015 No.13592823 >>13592797 Look at pictures and make up your own stories.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:10:08 2015 No.13592824 >>13592819 How was the naturalization process?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:10:39 2015 No.13592826 >>13592819 日本語でOKだ。

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:14:37 2015 No.13592836 >>13592797 I 見る at the 画像 and でっちあげる my own 物語.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:19:06 2015 No.13592857 >>13592814 >>13592823 >>13592836 no seriously... do you guys even understand the moon you read?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:20:06 2015 No.13592863 >>13592857 Most of us don't even understand English.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:21:01 2015 No.13592867 >>13592857 I pay a Japanese schoolgirl to type the lines into google translate for me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:22:14 2015 No.13592878 >>13592867 I bet she isn't even japanese. I bet she's a chink, gook, or pinoy at worst.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:26:40 2015 No.13592898 >>13592857 We look at the pictures and write our own stories.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:30:20 2015 No.13592914 >>13592898 Higurashi was a wild ride.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:44:44 2015 No.13592975 >>13592577 I've never posted in VNTS threads before, "dokorode." >>13592589 stole my shtick, that "kusoyaro."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 02:46:43 2015 No.13592982 >>13592577 I've never posted in VNTS threads before, "tokorode." >>13592589 stole my shtick, that "kusoyaro."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 03:01:57 2015 No.13593049 >>13592982 "Gomen", I'm not an "orijinaru" man.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 03:41:36 2015 No.13593220 >>13593049 It's ok, I forgive you "yurushiteagemasunde."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 04:02:16 2015 No.13593310 >>13592863 good post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:07:29 2015 No.13593787 >>13587741 is there any good vn about cooking?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:11:24 2015 No.13593791 >>13593787 Fate/stay night

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:16:33 2015 No.13593798 >>13593791 Ebin meme my friend >>13593787 Try Natsuiro Recipe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:24:42 2015 No.13593815 File: 1.79 MB, 1275x717, ピュア×コネクト.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finished ピュア×コネクト, it's been a while since I finished all routes, enjoyed it overall. I also liked the voice gimmick when you click on their sprites.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:27:34 2015 No.13593822 >>13593815 Better than Fureraba?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:29:58 2015 No.13593828 >>13593787 >>13593798 In recent memory, only Natsuiro Recipe and somewhat Akuma Musume no Kanban Ryouri come to mind. I was excited for Natsuiro Recipe because it was about cooking. Maybe Parfait would qualify a bit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:42:08 2015 No.13593862 >>13593798 >>13593828 > I was excited for Natsuiro Recipe is it good? that "was" scare me a little bit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:46:28 2015 No.13593868 >>13593822 Fureraba on backlog anon, sorry. Gonna do that next.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:47:43 2015 No.13593871
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>>13589126
I am pretty excited, now that I see more detailed scans out.
We'll probably never see Black and White in form ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLQBGNdEaTE ), but I'll take this. And whatever Sisters Gaiden they might make.

>>13593862
"Was" because I haven't started it yet, although I already have it in the backburner as the next game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:48:50 2015 No.13593876 File: 458 KB, 1036x1508, 1433332130943.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13593871

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:49:15 2015 No.13593878 >>13593871 That middle girl's smile is powerfully erotic somehow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:49:59 2015 No.13593881 File: 480 KB, 1032x1516, 2015060318390560f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13593876 >>13593878

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:51:06 2015 No.13593886 File: 421 KB, 1044x1512, 2015060318352456e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13593881

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:52:16 2015 No.13593888 File: 447 KB, 1040x1510, 20150603183527dc3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13593886

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 07:52:29 2015 No.13593890 File: 666 KB, 569x696, 2015-05-22 01_56_51-キミのとなりで恋してる！.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13593881 >ピンクの髪はメインヒロインの証です！ If only...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 08:05:10 2015 No.13593924 >幻のディストピア The MC is 2alpha4me. dropped.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 08:26:07 2015 No.13594001 >>13592797 I just hear everything. I can't read

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:25:09 2015 No.13594180 >>13592797 Playing VNs without a text hooker isn't realistic even for most people that do know Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:26:14 2015 No.13594187 >>13594180 Excellent b8 m8

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:31:27 2015 No.13594204 >>13594180 >Playing VNs without a text hooker isn't realistic even for most people that do know Japanese. Quoted from our Lord Clephas the Great's little book of nonsense. 10/10, would read again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:32:10 2015 No.13594207 File: 25 KB, 1116x231, average fuwanovel member.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13594180 >>13594187 Literally quoted from vndb. It's the guy who claimed he already read 420 vn and called kurokami a shitty nukige.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:33:37 2015 No.13594214 >>13594207 >>13594204 I've been checking vndb every day lately. It's a real good source of laughs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:35:13 2015 No.13594223 >>13594180 OH GOD HOW CAN COMPREHEND POST IN 4CHAN WITHOUT A TEXTHOOKER, I CAN'T KNOW ALL THE MEANS OF A WORD!!!! For fuck sake. Why you americans are so shitty in learning languages?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:35:51 2015 No.13594225 >>13594214 I'm sure plenty of knowledgeable English speaking people lurk on vndb, but as always, the ones who actually post on the forums are on the whole a bunch of 'tards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:36:14 2015 No.13594229 >>13594223 sorry, I mean to qoute >>13594207

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:37:24 2015 No.13594234 >>13594229 For fuck sake. Why you americans are so shitty at posting on 4chan?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:41:39 2015 No.13594248 >>13594214 >>13594204 >>13594225 Clephas actually know Japanese and better than most people here. Fuck off.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:42:00 2015 No.13594249

>>13594207
>JLPT is more about speaking

The fuck is he going on about? It's a written test that tests passive knowledge (= comprehension) only.

Before seeing this I'd just say he's deluded and justifies is reliance on text hookers, but this makes it seem like he's totally clueless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:43:01 2015 No.13594258 >>13594248 Sure you do Clephy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:47:10 2015 No.13594270 File: 246 KB, 1064x482, a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now that Utawarerumono 2 turned out to be real after all, do you think Jasmine will too?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:55:07 2015 No.13594300 >>13594270 Even if it does it won't be an eroge, so who cares?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 09:56:56 2015 No.13594306 >>13594270 a shitty old kusoge will get a sequel and it probably will be console exclusive? Wow, who even cares

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 10:09:17 2015 No.13594339 File: 76 KB, 1692x95, whatamIreading.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13594207

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 10:11:35 2015 No.13594350 >>13594339 I don't understand. Is he implying that moege are hard to read despite the fact he's read DI without a text hooker? I call BS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 10:13:00 2015 No.13594356 >>13594350 I took the "interesting experience" part to mean "I didn't understand shit".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 10:19:24 2015 No.13594384 File: 231 KB, 336x460, .....png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13594339 >Clephas Shrug What a fucking faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 10:30:59 2015 No.13594415 >>13594339 >moege without a hooker is like chewing on 100% cacao chocolate bars while drinking hotel coffee black What does this even mean

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 10:33:32 2015 No.13594419 >>13594415 It means it's the greatest pleasure an eroge patrician could partake in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 10:58:43 2015 No.13594468 >>13592599 Truly a shame, at least he's getting paid more for doing something mainstream, I guess? Hyakka Ryouran had fantastic art and direction.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 11:10:20 2015 No.13594489 File: 309 KB, 500x281, touch.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Playing tona koi finally get to a hscene... i don't' know i guess i just preferred it when it was cute romance, rather than sex. anybody else?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 11:14:28 2015 No.13594498 >>13594489 I thought the sex scenes were fine. Still, there could have been a bit more stuff between them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 11:25:50 2015 No.13594529 File: 1.39 MB, 1274x717, 2015-05-24 23_13_21-キミのとなりで恋してる！.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13594489 I ctrl'd through them for the most part but they weren't so bad. The real shame is that the game ends so quickly after the sex.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 11:31:16 2015 No.13594545 >>13594300 >>13594306 It has the same writer as Planetarian. And Planetarian was good, wasn't it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 11:43:13 2015 No.13594578 >>13594545 It's mediocre. Who told you it was good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 11:56:21 2015 No.13594628 File: 83 KB, 640x360, l_556ee260a8ea5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.famitsu.com/news/201506/04080055.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:04:53 2015 No.13594646 >>13594628 Huh, they upgraded Sonico to a playable character. Guess she was that popular.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:35:33 2015 No.13594736 >>13592982 >>13593049 >>13593220 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:37:12 2015 No.13594739 >>13594736 Dude... He isn't using the quote function, settle down, please.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:38:20 2015 No.13594744 >>13594739 I didn't mention the quote function, I mentioned quoting

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:38:53 2015 No.13594747 >>13594736 That's not how you use that meme dumb EOP scum.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:40:08 2015 No.13594751 >>13594747 I use it how I want newfriend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:42:44 2015 No.13594756 >>13594744 He was using the "" correctly though. They aren't only used for direct quotes as opposed to how ">" should be used. >Scare quotes used to mean "so-called" or to express irony: Your "car" doesn't actually have any wheels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:44:09 2015 No.13594762 >>13594756 I don't care how he's using them, I just want him to stop forcing his stupid meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:46:14 2015 No.13594769 >>13594762 Too late for that, he doesn't seem to be the only one using it. Also for a guy who's insisting on his right to use already established memes how he wants you aren't exactly in a position to bitch about other faggots.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:48:38 2015 No.13594774 >>13594769 "Epic" By the way, the way he is using it isn't scare quotes. You should reread that definitions, or at least think harder on it.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:53:32 2015 No.13594782

>>13594774
>Scare quotes or shudder quotes[1][2] or sneer quotes[3][4][5] are quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to signal that a term is being used in a nonstandard, ironic, or in another special sense.
>or in another special sense
"Witch" is pretty open "end" obviously can include his way "off" using them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:54:54 2015 No.13594788 >>13594782 "As" "a" "native" "speaker," "that" "is" "not" "how" "people" "use" "them"

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 12:59:43 2015 No.13594803 "Woah, calm down, dude. Language is literally dynamic and suffering changes all the time." was the reply >>13594788 got for his very thought out statement which was decorated with a lot of beautiful symbols.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 14:02:15 2015 No.13595041 >>13594207 This guy should just kill himself, he is very pathetic and also he called doshikuro a kamige.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 14:16:24 2015 No.13595088 >>13595041 >he called doshikuro a kamige You mean a kusoge?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 14:18:38 2015 No.13595096 >>13595088 >doshikuro >kusoge Well, he's right about one thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 14:34:06 2015 No.13595155 Who are your favorite western eroge scene celebrities that aren't moogy?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 14:41:50 2015 No.13595202 >>13595155 Suck my dick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 14:41:50 2015 No.13595203 >>13595155 You.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 14:49:55 2015 No.13595236 >>13595155 This guy >>13595203

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 14:50:41 2015 No.13595243 >>13595155 Micchi.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 15:09:10 2015 No.13595334 >>13595155 moogy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 15:38:38 2015 No.13595490 >>13594339 Isn't this literally what everynon japanese people do? I only did RTK, and studied the words in my textbook. After that, is all reading, listening and practice like every other language. Can't say why people are so scary about Kanji.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 15:42:02 2015 No.13595500 >>13595490 No, you have to learn grammar prior to reading. That guy is just making up stuff while reading.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 15:42:50 2015 No.13595506 >>13594339 how do you play a game 4 times and have trouble reading the kanji? you don't. it's no wonder people hate light novels so much here. it's like a slap in the face trying to read them

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 15:59:26 2015 No.13595577 >>13595506 I personally feel quite a lot of LNs have incredibly bare bones writing, but without the music, gameplay, animations and images that VNs have to make up for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 15:59:43 2015 No.13595578 Kinda late to ask this, but what was the consensus on AstralAir? Better/Worse than Hoshimemo or IroSekai?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:01:26 2015 No.13595586 >>13595578 I didn't like it. Thought it was boring.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:02:21 2015 No.13595593 >>13595577 I agree. I could never understand why people read LNs when the writing tends to range from terrible to mediocre. If you're going to follow something with shit writing it should have other aspects it can fall back on to make it worthwhile.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:04:04 2015 No.13595605 >>13595593 Jintai and Oregairu both have pretty good writing for LNs, but I can't really think of many outside of those two.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:05:27 2015 No.13595612 >>13595593 Because they have an interesting plot and setting. Few ones that i'm interested are Nourin and Fake strange recently.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:18:50 2015 No.13595683

sturgeon's law. trying to group all ln together and say there's terrible ones doesn't work. bare bone writing, bland, terrible, and any other opinion applies to visual novels also. all i'm reading is sour grape excuses. there's plenty of really good authors with enjoyable stories, but when you need a text hook it's easier to just say they're bad cause they're bad. whatever, it's not like i could think any less these types.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:20:34 2015 No.13595690 >>13595593 You can easily read a LN in a couple of days, eroge tend to last longer unless you cut the spoken lines and you don't fap. Then again for whatever reason LNs tend to come in bundles of retarded number of volumes, so maybe this point is moot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:21:10 2015 No.13595696 Anyone know any good blogs for eroge reviews/impressions?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:24:14 2015 No.13595705 >>13595696 Funny, I just took a look at this. https://vnerogereview.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/the-eternal-song-of-a-lonely-elf-review-of-astral-air/ I guess that answers >>13595578

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:25:28 2015 No.13595709 >>13595696 http://forums.fuwanovel.net/index.php?/blog/46-clephas-vn-home/

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:31:25 2015 No.13595723

>>13595683
>trying to group all ln together and say there's terrible ones doesn't work.
No, it does work. Trying to say they're all terrible doesn't work though, but one can say that it's true in a general case.

The writing style is similar between VNs and LNs, however the ADV presentation format suits the style better than a book. Also no music/gameplay/graphics/movies

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:40:30 2015 No.13595764

>>13595723
no. the writing style is not similar. it's not similar between light novels necessarily either. some authors follow popular cliches and borrow a bit too much, but i wouldn't read them anyway. the good authors are all rather unique and ignoring that the format, pacing, and just general flow is not like vn. you're hopeless.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:44:44 2015 No.13595788

>>13595764
Woah, calm down. I'm talking about the general case. The 'rather unique' ones aren't the general case, hence 'unique'.
I feel that there is actually quite a bit of similarity between the writing styles in terms of sentence complexity and usage of speech/internal monologues (if you ignore the standard VN structure of course).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 16:48:47 2015 No.13595818 Some people (crossies?) are getting agitated pretty quickly lately. Take it easy.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 17:02:39 2015 No.13595912

>>13595788
even when you're looking at the common writing style of light novels they're not like visual novels.

>sentence complexity and usage of speech/internal monologues
nonsensical gibberish. the dialogue in light novels is closer to what you'd find in manga. visual novels are filled with lines and attempts at getting you self-inserting. while light novels are a lot of wish fulfillment to self-insert as they aren't written so you're the protagonist. manga and light novels are much closer than light novel and visual novels.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 17:10:22 2015 No.13595952

>>13595912
Manga and LNs are written such that the reader is an observer. I can't think of a single manga that actively tries to get you to self insert.

>nonsensical gibberish
Not really. Sentence complexity is a thing (vocabulary, punctuation usage and clause lengths). The usage of speech in *most* LNs is very different to what you'd get in an ordinary novel - It's akin to VNs. The dialogue tends to be quite disjointed (which makes me feel like it would suit an ADV text box. If you extracted the text of a VN and placed it in a book, it would feel the same way as the average LN does to read).

The well written LNs tend to be much closer to actual novels in style.

I'd also like to mention that self-insertion is something people ITT are obsessed about, but it isn't the only thing that matters.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 17:23:07 2015 No.13596042

>>13595952
>Sentence complexity is a thing (vocabulary, punctuation usage and clause lengths)
this isn't even meaningful. why don't you just say manga, anime, games, and anything that isn't verbose is like visual novels? the difference between light novels and regular novels is mostly the detailed description when you ignore the cliches which light novels are riddled with. dialogue depends on the author, genre, and the story. chuuni high school students will have similar dialogue it's no surprise. it's the same in manga or anime.

>The dialogue tends to be quite disjointed
i don't even get what you mean by this. dialogue in manga and light novels feels and reads totally different from visual novels. visual novels are filled with unnecessary lines which would be totally out of place in these other mediums, but work in visual novels cause they're how they are. visual novels are all about every random little conversion which further gets the reader involved in their self-insert. the editor wouldn't allow half of the stuff said in a visual novel into a light novel cause the pacing is totally different.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 17:35:34 2015 No.13596111 >>13595696 If you browse EGS reviews you may find some good blogs Or just searching for エロゲー感想 or something erogeosusume.com http://mmsroom.web.fc2.com/index_Game.htm

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 17:42:19 2015 No.13596155 >>13595578 It had some good scenes that were better than anything in Hoshimemo. Unfortunately, the game is incredibly long and the vast majority of it is extremely dull. I can't really recommend it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 17:43:45 2015 No.13596164 >>13596155 >is incredibly long It wasn't that long, kinda long but not that much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 17:44:58 2015 No.13596174 >>13596164 It felt incredibly long at least.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 17:45:47 2015 No.13596183 >>13596164 It had to be at least 3 MB. Though it's possible that it felt longer than it was because it dragged so badly.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 17:55:41 2015 No.13596232

>>13594646
It's a pretty weird thing to do, though. I thought Anna and Ignis were added not because of their popularity but because they can fight. They're obviously not more popular than Spica or those two girls from Totono. Sonico too strong I guess.
>>13594339
The only thing I don't understand is how someone manages to read more than 500 VNs and still needs to use a text hooker. I can only guess he doesn't even memorize pronunciations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 18:00:06 2015 No.13596256 Sonico was already able to fight, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbBplp1PmiQ

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 18:23:09 2015 No.13596349 >>13596232 >The only thing I don't understand is how someone manages to read more than 500 VNs and still needs to use a text hooker. By looking at the CG sets and calling that "reading".

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 18:27:29 2015 No.13596378
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Finished Dive2. Until half way though the last route I thought it was alright. I liked it, but it didn't have that something for me to really like it. I thought how all the organizations have their own goals and interact with each other was really well thought out but it still didn't really capture me. But the second half of the the last route made the whole game amazing. Everything is really well put together. I'll replay it sometime.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 18:53:42 2015 No.13596532

>>13596378
I thought Dive2 had an amazing start. Aki's route fixed everything Chinatsu's route fucked up, Makoto had some great battles and wrapped up the story nicely, and Sora's, as you said, had a fantastic second half that filled up pretty much all possible plot holes (like a certain deus ex machina in all routes).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 21:00:37 2015 No.13597033 Can someone tell me how I'm supposed to install SoreChiru? I have the iso mounted, but whenever it tries to install it keeps asking me for the master disk.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 21:02:31 2015 No.13597039 >>13597033 Just copy the contents of the disk into a folder. Works almost every time.

Anonymous Wed Jun 3 21:06:04 2015 No.13597050
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While the prologue was kinda bad, I'm glad the AXL didnt drop their classic theme, which is I like.

As their older games, in this one MC is the guy who connect others again, and makes a group from the lone wolfs / misunderstood persons. While pacing of this game is definitely worse than others, connecting all with youkai / supernatural things was a good idea and since I like this theme I'm enjoying it so far. I'm only at the common route though, game might get worse or better at heroine routes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 21:54:02 2015 No.13597242 >>13597050 Man AXL used to be so good. Wtf happened...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 22:23:34 2015 No.13597360 >>13596532 > filled up pretty much all possible plot holes Given that they were filled up, "plot holes" is not the right term here. Something like "loose ends" is better

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 23:58:02 2015 No.13597674 How much score at EGS or vndb should a game have to decide whether or not playing it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 3 23:59:39 2015 No.13597678 >>13597674 Both of those are horrible ways to judge anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 00:10:37 2015 No.13597709 >>13597678 It's better than playing a kusoge just because one of the girls looks cute.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 00:11:59 2015 No.13597712 >>13597709 I'd rather read 100 kusoge and find one amazing game rated poorly, then plan 100 kamiges spoonfed to me by a rating system.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 00:15:30 2015 No.13597721 >>13597712 That's rather inefficient if you ask me. >>13597678 Not really, i'm undeciding towards playing Areas. VNDB gave a good rating but EGS indicates that the game is a bit above average.

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 00:16:08 2015 No.13597722

>>13597709
Most people on vndb read with machine translators and EGS is full of autists, half of whom don't even play the games they rate. Considering you're probably going to pirate the game anyway so you won't lose anything by trying them and seeing how you like them.
Reading about the game may also be useful, but VNs tend to be rather subjective. Some people will absolutely hate what you may like and vise versa.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 00:18:40 2015 No.13597723 >>13597721 The fact of the matter is that scores are useless. I'd recommend reading impressions and reviews and deciding based on those. You could also just pirate the damn thing and form your own opinion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 00:19:20 2015 No.13597724 >>13597722 You have a point, i'll play it then. Thanks mate.

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 00:27:55 2015 No.13597753

>>13597674 >>13597721
1. Look at your list of finished stuff and single out 4-5 works which made most impression on you (in both positive and negative way).
2. Look up reviews at EGS for these titles and write down users who had similar impressions on same factors of these titles.
3. Check ratings of these users and weed out ones who disalign from your tastes too much.
4. Use remaining to judge about titles you didn't read but they did.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 00:35:54 2015 No.13597783 >>13597753 That works too, good advice man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 01:08:08 2015 No.13597885 How's pure connect? anyone has finished?

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 01:49:02 2015 No.13598011

Finished Daiakuji.
Only positive thing in it is protagonist, Akuji. He's that very rare blend of "evil" and "yasashii" that eroge world needs most. He could punch annoying bitch in face few times when she's too annoying or sell his osananajimi into brothel without batting an eye, but he also isn't obessed with sex and isn't "evil because evil", and acts responsible and kind to those who are dear to him. He'd definitely be one of my most favorite protags if not for how he dealt with that cult group, killing heroines for no real reason is not nice.
However, he doesn't have any big ambition or any long-standing goals. Whole game is about Akuji causing troubles accidently and then crushing down parties enraged by his actions. There's no overarching plot either.
In addition its Daibanchou-like system, with entangled character clear conditions, and annoying time limits. I couldn't clear Nene because her start-of-turn event just wouldn't trigger because queue was full, and when it finally started triggering, I was already in fight with Wimi and couldn't delay final battle any longer.
Well, character clear epilogues were mostly 2-4 lines long, so its not like its worth clearing them at all.

Daibanchou and Sengoku Rance have same gameplay but in much more improved form with actual plot, so Daiakuji should be played only by maniacs who love replaying game 5 times to clear every little annoying challenge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 02:46:14 2015 No.13598249 Anyone here tried Sarai no Me? I just got it and it installed fine, but it hangs on the Tinkerbell logo every time I try to start it up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 03:54:45 2015 No.13598598 >>13597885 Had a pleasant time playing it. Sora is annoying (only route i didn't play) but the other heroines especially Arisa are great.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 04:19:11 2015 No.13598694 Fuck, finally got SoreChiru from Baidu, but it turns out it's one of those games that need _inmm.dll. It's always such a bother.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 07:48:00 2015 No.13599409 >>13598011 >sell his osananajimi into brothel I'm sold.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 14:12:45 2015 No.13600572 Anyone else playing ウィッチャー3 ワイルドハント? Just started it myself and enjoying it so far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 14:32:46 2015 No.13600639 What is recommended route order for Soukoku no Arterial?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 15:07:08 2015 No.13600815 >>13600639 It doesn't really matter in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 15:16:03 2015 No.13600859 Is it ok to talk about translated games here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 15:22:48 2015 No.13600887 >>13600859 No.

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 15:26:00 2015 No.13600897

>>13600887
Oh, well anyway I'm reading Sharin no Kuni right now, not sure if I should continue. The protagonist seems like an edgelord of the highest order and the "smoke weed erryday" shit is getting on my nerves but people do say this is good. Is it worth continuing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 15:31:37 2015 No.13600921 >>13600897 Your life isn't worth continuing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 15:40:39 2015 No.13600957 >>13600897 Not really. The part that could be considered good is the very end but even that isn't all that great.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 15:46:00 2015 No.13600983 >>13600957 Have to agree. I played the game about a month ago (in 日本語) and I really couldn't see what all the fuss was about. I thought the setting was interesting, but the game ended with most of my questions left unanswered.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 15:48:49 2015 No.13600996 >>13598011 >I loved the game because of its edgelord protagonist. This is no better than the average HS protagonist.

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 16:09:39 2015 No.13601061

>>13595952
>Not really. Sentence complexity is a thing (vocabulary, punctuation usage and clause lengths). The usage of speech in *most* LNs is very different to what you'd get in an ordinary novel - It's akin to VNs
Spoken by someone who probably never read a LN in japanese

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 16:45:34 2015 No.13601214

Any eroge with some really good bullying scenes besides the super obvious stuff like SubaHibi or YMK? Did try https://vndb.org/v16887 which came out recently but it was kind of too short and lacking in content to be satisfying, still something with a similar feel but higher in quality and length would be pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 17:12:15 2015 No.13601305 >>13601214 Not same thing but I'm also searching some games where MC saves the girl from the bullying.

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 17:31:49 2015 No.13601377

>>13601214
I really liked the ones in Asairo, though it's not the main theme and there's not much of it on top of it being not hardcore at all, so I wouldn't recommend it strictly for that, though I would recommend the eroge in general to anyone. The minor bullying the MC is subject of is really frustrating but the way it's resolved makes up for it entirely.
Also, and this starts to get into heavier spoilers territory, parental bullying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 17:34:57 2015 No.13601392 >>13601377 I'm not sure if some of that really counts as bullying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 17:35:08 2015 No.13601394 >>13601214 Check out these http://vndb.org/v12490 http://vndb.org/v14528

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 17:43:33 2015 No.13601428 >>13601305 I'm looking for ones where the MC is the bully. Kinda like https://vndb.org/v1417

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 17:47:26 2015 No.13601438

>>13601428
I don't see what's so good about bullying innocent girls. It's like kicking a puppy who did nothing wrong just because you can. I want an eroge where you bully a bitch who pretends to be innocent but fucks with people behind their backs and then turn everyone against them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 17:48:37 2015 No.13601445 >>13601438 Turn everyone against her, rather.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 17:49:12 2015 No.13601447 >>13601438 It's not perceived as bullying if they deserve it probably.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 17:50:39 2015 No.13601456 >>13601438 >I don't see what's so good about bullying innocent girls. I don't see what's so good about a lot of fetishes, but 十人十色.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 18:04:38 2015 No.13601503 >>13601438 >I don't see what's so good about bullying innocent girls. It's like kicking a puppy who did nothing wrong just because you can. Well, I do that pretty often and it's quite satisfying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 18:04:45 2015 No.13601505 >>13601428 I was legit upset when that potential forced strip scene in the classroom was interrupted by that rape teacher though. Dick was diamonds in expectation before that happened.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 18:15:39 2015 No.13601547 >>13601392 He definitively gets bullied by青妹 though

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 20:01:25 2015 No.13602051 What do you guys think about Ti9/H3H3H3/Kirby? Does he/she post here too?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 20:31:51 2015 No.13602156 >>13602051 Do I have to know him/her?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 20:42:12 2015 No.13602196 >>13602156 No. He's Subahibi's translator. He left this place because it was too stiff or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 21:22:05 2015 No.13602393 >>13602196 > translator So cancer then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 21:31:18 2015 No.13602430 >>13602393 Pretty much. >>13602051 I've been in /jp/ for a while so I've seen all three posters inevitably (didn't care enough to confirm they were all the same, though, so I don't know) but nothing good ever came out of their posts so whatever.

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 21:33:17 2015 No.13602437

>>13602196
I read a bit of the leaked translation patch to see what it was like, and it really does have an overuse of big pretentious words when in Japanese the words being used are fairly common.
Some parts especially in chapter 2 don't translate well at all and come across pretty cringe-worthy when transformed into English. It also doesn't help that some of the direct quotes replaced with their English equivalents don't flow as well, don't sound as nice, and feel really out of place when read over top of the character's voices still speaking in Japanese.

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 22:29:59 2015 No.13602621

>>13600983
Read Houzuki's chapter in the fandisc.

>>13602437
>It also doesn't help that some of the direct quotes replaced with their English equivalents don't flow as well, don't sound as nice
Please tell me you're joking. Though I should already know there are legit weeaboos in this thread, considering how often people use Japanese words when there are perfectly suitable English equivalents.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 22:50:05 2015 No.13602671 >>13602621 It's true Japanese is the most beautiful language in the world. Bad translations aside, simply by being in English alone causes the writing to become muddied.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:08:26 2015 No.13602748 >>13602671 >Japanese is the most beautiful language in the world Pretty hard to say that when you probably only know like 2-3 languages out of the hundreds in the world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:11:56 2015 No.13602766 >>13602748 It's about the way they sound, languages like Chinese or African tongue-clicking for example sound terrible.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:14:47 2015 No.13602776 >>13602766 It's also highly subjective. I can't stand French, for example but most people find it beautiful 10/10.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:34:04 2015 No.13602846 >>13601214 Itaike na Kanojo is a classic but is more close to a nukige than anything.

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:45:36 2015 No.13602869

>>13600996
I didn't "love" game, did you even read the post?
I've explicitly stated that even very good protag cannot compensate for lack of story and annoying system.
>no better than the average HS protagonist
I find this self-insert-for-otaku indistinguishable grey goo disgusting.
Protagonist should be proper character, not just placeholder.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:46:37 2015 No.13602871 >>13600815 I remember people saying to leave angel or demon route last (don't remember which), so there's some kind of reason behind it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:48:25 2015 No.13602877 I hate it when I'm reading VNs on the bus and some fucking feminazi tries to give me shit. Like, mind your own business you fucking cunt!

Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:57:24 2015 No.13602908

>>13602871
Demon route is kind of an evil route. I wouldn't recommend playing it first at least.
I played it in order Angel-Human-Demon and it was fine. I think playing it in any other order would make just as much sense, though as I mentioned before the demon route shouldn't be played first.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:58:08 2015 No.13602912 Here's a new thread guys >>13602909

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:58:57 2015 No.13602920 >>13602912 Youre funny

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 4 23:59:07 2015 No.13602921 >>13602877 Do they actually exist in real life? I have never seen, met or talked to a femnazi in real life and I'm conviced they exist only in the internet and maybe some american colleges.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 00:04:11 2015 No.13602944 >>13602877 What? How did this happen? Please don't make up shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 00:04:33 2015 No.13602946 >>13602921 They exist in every American college and some in America outside of colleges too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 00:04:49 2015 No.13602948 New thread >>13602942

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 01:58:16 2015 No.13603319 >>13600897 Yes, it's definitely worth continuing. If he seems like an asshole to you, you'll very likely change your mind about that later on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 02:15:45 2015 No.13603394 >>13602869 > very good protag >Implying Edgelords are for teenagers. They arent good protags, they are as pandering cancer as the usual clueless HS protagonist.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 02:22:43 2015 No.13603414 >>13603394 Dismissing something as "for teenagers" while consuming media which usually panders to teenagers is rather silly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 02:25:57 2015 No.13603430 >>13603414 >while consuming media which usually panders to teenagers Yeah, eroge totally panders to a demographic that can't even buy them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 5 02:32:30 2015 No.13603464 >>13603430 And yet they do. Buying eroge while being underage is easy as shit in Japan. Also, are you seriously implying eroge isn't filled with typical shounen anime topics?

Anonymous Fri Jun 5 02:46:27 2015 No.13603529

>>13603464
Catering your product to a group that can't legally buy it isn't a good business model and is probably not one that any successful company follows.

I don't watch shounen anime so I don't know. Regardless that doesn't prove eroge "panders to teenagers" unless you can demonstrate that only teenagers like those tropes, rather than otaku of all ages. From what I've seen eroge simply shares cliches with otaku mediums in general.

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