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Elona+ Anonymous Mon May 25 19:31:56 2015 No.13549397 [Reply] [Original]

Journey's end edition

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>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 19:35:09 2015 No.13549418 File: 748 KB, 1280x768, Lets ragnarok.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Let's ragnarok

Anonymous Mon May 25 19:53:22 2015 No.13549517
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That's it. I can finally stop playing. He's dead. He's finally dead.
It's been fun Elona general. I appreciate all the help and banter. You're great. I think I'm finally done with this game. I'm so happy.

Well, at least until a few major patches.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 20:04:48 2015 No.13549585 >>13549517 don't worry anon I'm sure they'll add inner inner gods at some point.

Anonymous Mon May 25 20:12:17 2015 No.13549632

Oh and because I forgot to give some info on the fight:
He's by far the most dangerous, at least for a lower life character. His attacks do among the lowest of the gods, but his time stop makes him very deadly. It activates extremely frequently and he can really do a lot in that time-span. Not only that but his attacks are very accurate so he'll be hitting you often, and stopping time plenty. To put it in perspective, I saw ragnarok I think once, maybe twice, while killing the rest of the pantheon. I saw it 3 times on him. Bring barrier and lots of rods of mana. Don't get overzealous with meteors either, you'll want the mana/health as a just in case.

>>13549585
no pls, I was finally free

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 20:17:07 2015 No.13549656 >>13549517 You became a god anon

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 20:18:35 2015 No.13549663 >>13549585 There needs to be a weak loligod who gets progressively stronger with each death like a Matryoshka doll until she's destroying continents left and right.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 20:33:24 2015 No.13549722 File: 400 KB, 1280x768, You are the godslayer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13549656 And I swiftly took care of that. >>13549663 I'm hoping for a god of crafting. Maybe if/when they flush out necromancy more? Could play into that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 20:51:38 2015 No.13549805 >>13549663 gwen ascended! (doesn't gwen the pitiless get stronger the more times you killed gwen the innocent?)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:11:26 2015 No.13550135 What things should I have for my farm besides a kitchen?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:13:55 2015 No.13550142 >>13550135 You could sandbag something up for drain blood to get stamina back.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:17:22 2015 No.13550154 >>13550142 You should just use a pet instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:19:26 2015 No.13550167 >>13550154 I always wanted to put landmines all over my farm. I didn't know if magic device or anything else increased their damage though so I never bothered.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 22:41:20 2015 No.13550239 I wonder if I should just use a gun or a bow. I've been using a shuriken since it's light, but I think I could get better stat bonuses with something else.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 23:58:44 2015 No.13550637 Should I upgrade my save incrementally or is it safe to just go straight from the last version I played (over a year ago) to the current one?

Anonymous Tue May 26 02:08:08 2015 No.13551218

>>13550239
Guns tend to be more flexible (sniper vs. shotgun vs. machine gun), and at least to my eye do more damage on average. That combined with fuckawesome artifacts like rail gun, valkoinen kuolema and Mani's shotgun suggest guns are the better choice.

Anonymous Tue May 26 05:49:48 2015 No.13551874
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Hyper Yacatect was too strong for me. Even with Quick Use and Mist of Darkness she was dealing too much damage to continue fighting her with conventional spells. I gave up and bombarded her with Meteor, teleporting away every time she came close.
Fun fact: if you pray to the god you are trying to kill, they will still restore your health and mana.

>>13549517
>>13549632
>>13549722
Congratulations! Thanks for advice.

>>13550135
Steal some fruit trees for easy fertilizer.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 06:31:33 2015 No.13551997 >>13550637 Make sure to save on the world map, then try to upgrade to the lastest version. Make a backup of your save beforehand, if you notice any problems (such as missing items, screwed stats etc) upgrade your save gradually.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 06:39:49 2015 No.13552020 File: 14 KB, 80x111, punchan golem waifu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you guys think about this? It's my martial artist character, all about brawling and heavy armor.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 07:40:04 2015 No.13552152 >>13552020 >posted in elonagen and /rlg/ I admire your dedication. Character looks cool. But how well does she play?

Anonymous Tue May 26 07:50:38 2015 No.13552179

>>13552152
She plays amazingly well. I spent my skillpoints from leveling into stealth, so that I can shadowstep to people, and I can kill most things my level in two or three hits.

I do have a difficulty in actually HITTING some things, like those red and blue wizard people and fairies, but that's when I use the explosive punch skill you get with enough martial arts. It usually kills everything in a 3x3 area.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 09:19:08 2015 No.13552362 How do you raise magic fast? Ball spells and teleportation ala Son Goku doesn't seem to be doing the trick. I spent 36000 mana on ball spells just to get 1 Magic on Superb. Just what the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 09:23:57 2015 No.13552370 >>13552020 post sprite

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 09:25:07 2015 No.13552373 >>13552362 I just hotkey some buff and hold it down until it starts to kill me. Line spells can be useful if you can mine fast enough/create walls to funnel everything in the dungeon down a tunnel.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 09:26:14 2015 No.13552375 >>13552362 Oracle

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 09:29:48 2015 No.13552380 >>13552362 Oracle. Not only does it train quite a lot ( probably the best buyable to the spellwriter, as in without considering meteor/wish ), its cost do not raise with level and there's no animation. It was made to be spammed.

Anonymous Tue May 26 10:22:52 2015 No.13552471

>>13552362
As the others have said, Oracle is by far the best spell in the game to spam for Magic.

Oracle gives 22 experience directly to Magic for every cast as a side-effect of Casting exp gain. The only better spells are Meteor (32) and Wish (84).

Then, as a result of training the spell, it gives 103 magic experience, again beat out only by Meteor (150) and Wish (390).

Note that these values are out of 1000. Potential is a straight multiplier (i.e. 200% is 2x), but you face a fairly hefty penalty as skills/stats rise in level. Still, Oracle can be reserved from the Mage's Guild, making it your best source for Magic skillups. Its spammable nature even makes it beat out herbs.

P.S: Magic Capacity is ridiculous for training Will, capable of earning you 1000 WIL exp for every cast after being 5x your max mana pool as negative mana. It also is capable of giving 2000 exp to Magic Capacity, making Magic Capacity one of (if not) the easiest to train skills in the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 10:24:06 2015 No.13552474 >>13552179 Maybe I should get into Martial Arts, that explosive punch sounds cool. I'm using a two-handed sword character, I've been using Shining Wave for harder to kill stuff, but it only affects a line 5 squares ahead of me.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:07:56 2015 No.13552574 >>13552471 Wouldn't that require having an extremely low mana pool to begin with? Even on my "melee" characters I tend to have either an equal or larger mana pool than HP.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 11:27:29 2015 No.13552625 >>13552574 No, just spam Cure of Eris/Jua until you hear a heartbeat sound. Rest a little (or zap a rod of mana) and continue.

Anonymous Tue May 26 12:42:25 2015 No.13552850

>>13552474
There are several things for martial arts.
It has a grenade punch.
It can make your enemy vomit, develop anorexia and lose stats in the process
It has a 120 turn buff that ads elemental damage to your fists that are the element of your best resist.
It has a buff that raises will and perception, and the wiki says it has some invisible bonuses to damage and martial arts.
You can basically arm yourself with 2 shields to make you tankier and still do quite nice damage.

But, Martial arts can never be dual wielded or get the 2 hand bonus. It has no other invoke but the buff you learn for it. It can never be alive.
Martial arts has the potential do do the most damage on paper, but in actual fact it only beats sword&board style for damage.

It's a very good melee tactic, but be warned you are not gonna do just as much damage as you would do with a claymore and you won't hit 12 times a turn like with dual-wielding.

I do love playing my MA guy though. Started it as thief so every stealth attack will hit and crit and level my stealth quite well for shadow step.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 12:46:37 2015 No.13552862 >>13552850 I see. I might still want to go through it to get some skills. I don't think I could let go of my sword in the long run though, managed to get that Claymore artifact and it's pretty decent. Damage might fall off later, but hey.

Anonymous Tue May 26 12:46:43 2015 No.13552863

>>13552850
>Martial arts has the potential do do the most damage on paper
That hasn't been true since the other inner gods got inner god weapons. Dual Wielding inner god weapons is the absolute deadliest melee style for a character with two hands, bar none.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 12:50:54 2015 No.13552870 >>13552863 MA will have the highest dice. I Did say you can't dual wield MA or 2 hand it. Do try to read.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 13:04:12 2015 No.13552909 File: 122 KB, 800x800, 1425344750515.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13552863 >seven-handed mutant wielding all the inner god weapons LET'S RAGNAROK!

Anonymous Tue May 26 13:34:39 2015 No.13553006

>>13552863
>>13552870
>>13552850

With some relatively quick testing, it does indeed seem that dual-wielded outdamage martial arts. All these were done against Jure.

With clear mind, MA was doing about 50k (damage from hands) + ~90k (attribute) + ~44k (body blow). BakuretaKen was hitting for slightly less than body blow, but you can't use both in the same turn anyways. Having the element of attribute be "magic" boosted it to about 110k per hit. So, at max, roughly 200k per round.

Inner god weapons were hitting about 340k without additional hit procs (~110k weapon damage, ~60k elemental damage. That's per weapon.). Multiple hits would push it even higher.

Magic Storm, at 3x multiplier, was hitting for roughly 580k. Meteor did 1.5m

Martial Arts did seem to stay ahead of other non-inner god weapons though.

Anonymous Tue May 26 13:49:18 2015 No.13553038

>>13553006
Indeed.

I never had the illusion that MA would be the best choice to do more damage. I took martial arts because I wanted to have the shield tonfa and the Al'ud in my hands while shooting with a sniper rifle. I know it won't do tremendous damage, but who gives a shit when I have that feeling of safety and know that even if I have to face a <Red Baptist> in the puppy cave's 1st floor at level 3 or so, It won't bloody one-shot me out of the blue.
Not to even mention that

Anonymous Tue May 26 14:01:55 2015 No.13553093
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Thank you Mani, because of all those dragons it was easy to sustain Quick Use for the whole fight. I've teleported away a few times to recharge my rods, but the battle was quite straightforward.

Anonymous Tue May 26 14:55:25 2015 No.13553272 [SPOILER]

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I was hesitating to go up against Ulzassil for the magic heart and his staff, so I went to the void for some AP farming before I try him, and guess who I fought at the 105th level...

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 15:02:08 2015 No.13553313 >>13553272 Man, that amount of speed is insane. I wonder how people even reach it at that level.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 15:06:52 2015 No.13553337 >>13553313 AP I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 15:07:46 2015 No.13553342 >>13553313 I only spent AP on speed. When I hit the cap I shall start drinking all my stashed speed uppers and hermes bloods. oh and eat all my shoes.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 15:32:37 2015 No.13553490 Is there a way to find out how much spellpower you have or you just guess?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 16:10:07 2015 No.13553645 Does anybody except me use/make TALK files for their companions?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 16:31:34 2015 No.13553742 File: 30 KB, 584x582, 1416269511904.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13553645 Nah you're the only one, definitely not a single other person uses them

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 17:01:11 2015 No.13553857 File: 7 KB, 128x192, QT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13552370 Here's the sprite. I just wish I had a portrait for her, because she's a QT.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 17:51:40 2015 No.13554087 File: 16 KB, 240x112, purple haired chick.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13553857 Here's three bud, cut and save as .bmp

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 17:54:32 2015 No.13554105 Man, I still think it's hilarious when people die to the tutorial putit.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 17:55:48 2015 No.13554114 File: 118 KB, 638x229, 1432607920507.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13554105

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 18:02:08 2015 No.13554152 >>13554105 They most likely read that one very very old readme and are trying to train their evasion and armor skills at lvl 1... Disregarding skill potential and the simple fact that at lvl 1 your as tough as a wet paper tissue.

Anonymous Tue May 26 18:04:06 2015 No.13554167

>>13554114
That name. I can't stop laughing. Poor guy, he probably rolled a non adventuring profession to start with or something if he's having problems dealing with putits. Not saying that rolling a non adventuring profession is bad though. I'm guessing this guy here rolled something like a pianist and got shafted in his attribute rolls in the beginning leading to a rough start in killing things.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 18:51:44 2015 No.13554466 I think I need to check online for some of these quests. I have no idea what I'm doing in South Tyris and almost ended up growing a second head because of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 19:25:34 2015 No.13554599 I need some Opatos-esque prayers for my golden knight. Ones that aren't "muahahahahaha".

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 19:56:38 2015 No.13554724 Welp, now I understand why I was told to watch out for Metal Vesda. Damn, I got demolished.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 20:51:27 2015 No.13554989 >>13554167 It's obviously staged.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 21:06:59 2015 No.13555063 >>13553645 I try, although I don't get where some of the lines are used like nade.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 21:08:34 2015 No.13555072 >>13555063 Do you have any clue how to make them say their own names? Because I know that {player} makes them say the player's name.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 21:12:35 2015 No.13555097 >>13555072 Dunno, could be either {npcc}, or {nptc}, those were in the sample text.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 21:25:46 2015 No.13555172 >>13549517 Holy shit, congratulations.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 22:23:18 2015 No.13555486 >>13554599 Anything besides laughing is insufficient for opatos

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 22:24:07 2015 No.13555489 What's the best screen settings for this game? Window mode at the highest resolution?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 22:33:23 2015 No.13555547 >>13555489 After 1024x768 you don't get any more visible tiles on screen so there's not much gained going far beyond that.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 22:39:00 2015 No.13555588 >>13555489 It depends if you alt-tabbing often or not. Game's window max height is 7xx (don't quite remember), and in full-screen it locks you in that resolution. I prefer windowed because of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 22:43:33 2015 No.13555615 >>13555547 1280x768 definitely gives you more tiles horizontally, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 22:56:59 2015 No.13555679 I noticed that favor falls gradually over time. What's the calculation per that? 1 favor every x turns?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 23:13:55 2015 No.13555744 >>13555679 Also is there any penalty or reason to not put shields/melee weapons in the 'Shoot' slot if you're not planning to use a ranged weapon? Seems weird that you can equip an extra shield in that slot.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 23:25:08 2015 No.13555789 I'm starting to doubt if Tactics really does anything. My damage still doesn't seem much better after going from 50 to 100 in it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 23:29:39 2015 No.13555810 >>13555615 Who cares, the character can't see nearly that far.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 23:36:08 2015 No.13555843 >>13555810 I can see stairs after magic mapping, though.

Anonymous Tue May 26 23:45:25 2015 No.13555870

>>13555744
>Also is there any penalty or reason to not put shields/melee weapons in the 'Shoot' slot if you're not planning to use a ranged weapon? Seems weird that you can equip an extra shield in that slot.
It might bump you up an equipment weight class. Other than that, no reason not to.

>>13555789
It increases damage multiplier. It's invaluable, and I can't see how you'd not notice a 50 point increase.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 26 23:51:59 2015 No.13555894 >>13555870 I know it increases the multiplier, but I'm still hitting around 400-600 damage with my sword without critical hits. I've had these hits for I don't know how many levels.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 00:18:48 2015 No.13556013 >>13555789 >I'm starting to doubt if Tactics really does anything >I know it increases the multiplier ...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 00:34:49 2015 No.13556088 >>13551874 How do I get exact stat/attribute levels to appear like this?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 00:35:51 2015 No.13556096 >>13556088 Press * in the skills screen.

Anonymous Wed May 27 00:36:48 2015 No.13556102

>>13556013

Maybe I explained it poorly. I see that it increases the multiplier next to my damage roll, but when I fight stuff, my damage is still about 500-600 for normal attacks. I don't hit any harder unless I use Shining Wave, which went from 2000 damage to 3000. It's starting to feel less worth it to level this thing as obsessively as I am now.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 00:37:20 2015 No.13556106 >>13556096 Oh, thank you. I guess there's no way to get exact attribute skill level though?

Anonymous Wed May 27 00:57:08 2015 No.13556211

>>13556102
Anon tactics is only one thing that is affecting your damage multiplier. How are your stats, specifically strength? That affects the multiplier as well. Do you wield one weapon or two? If one the two handed skill can add to your damage. I hope you haven't just been focusing on tactics. Also, what is your weapon? That damage multiplier will only be as awesome as the die or dice that you're rolling. Naturally, a 4d8 weapon will get more out of a multiplier than a 2d8 weapon.

Anonymous Wed May 27 01:04:12 2015 No.13556240
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My first character only got to level 17 before I decided to marry and split off a gene, and then as soon as I got to about level 7 I got super lucky and got shena's panty from letting Ebon destroy Noyel over and over, then I found <Whom dwell in the vanity> dead in vernis for seemingly no reason.
Is Ragnarok/Diablo a dumb idea for a dual-wield thief? my last character was a warrior so I just went with diablo and a claw the whole game, really.

Anonymous Wed May 27 01:06:37 2015 No.13556255

>>13556211

I'm using a +10 Blessed Claymore artifact with Two Hand. I'm leveling Two Hand and Longsword too. I've been using this for a while now. Strength went up by 39 since I last checked for my 500 damage hits. I'm sure the average damage is a bit higher than before, but it just doesn't seem very noticeable.

Anonymous Wed May 27 01:10:10 2015 No.13556267
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>>13556102
Other anon is right. My melee pet does between 3951 damage to 10,492 damage. All due to a mix of things such as strength, weapon, tactics skill, and two handed skill.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 01:10:56 2015 No.13556273 >>13556240 They're both too heavy. Diablo is good for main hand, and in off-hand you better get something weighting less then 1.5s

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 01:30:18 2015 No.13556352 >>13556240 Might want to see a healer in town to fix the stats that are in red anon unless something else is affecting them.

Anonymous Wed May 27 04:04:18 2015 No.13556884

>>13556273
If I use inferior quality scrolls on a Happy Bed how low can I get its weight? Or should I just stick to carrying around a sleep sheep?

Also what factors affect potential gain from sleep? It seems like I usually only get 1%, but sometimes will get 8 or 9.

Anonymous Wed May 27 04:11:29 2015 No.13556904

>>13556884
The catch about using inferior quality scrolls to reduce weight is that you can't do it. You will always get neutral or heavy materials.
The only way to get a low-weight material is if you get one of the high-quality materials like spirit cloth.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 04:22:04 2015 No.13556934 >>13556904 So should I use a sleep sheep for now then? My happy bed is metalwork, so it's especially heavy.

Anonymous Wed May 27 04:25:49 2015 No.13556942

>>13556934
Yeah, sleep sheep's a decent bed and a heavy happy bed's going to be a pain to haul around.
If you have a heavy-lifting pet (golden knight) you can have them haul it around for you, if not just try to use it whenever you're near your house or wherever you leave it.

Anonymous Wed May 27 04:33:24 2015 No.13556961

>>13552471
>>13552375
>>13552380

Ok, oracle works really great thanks for that. I got 2 Magic in a matter of seconds. Oracle is so expensive though when you buy them at the library (1M per 70+ books) and gives too little stocks. If I wasn't getting 1M per dungeon I would have already fainted at this amount.

Is there a way to reduce failure chance dramatically in filling charges to books? Like raising magic device? It's too irritating to drain your 1000+ charges just to fill up a few books

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 05:09:03 2015 No.13557031 >>13556884 Potential gains depends only on the quality of the bed. Change material is still worth it for reducing weight or gaining extra furniture value.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 05:09:25 2015 No.13557033 Someone mentioned clearing out forest zones for clovers, does Houzanha destroy any potential wall items or can it be used to reduce time spent mining?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 05:39:31 2015 No.13557090 Why would anyone ever dual wield when it drops your cast chance? Most people use buffs alone so aren't most people funneled into medium armor + 2h? or do you guys RP?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 05:53:26 2015 No.13557128 >>13557090 As long as your offhand isn't a weapon or a shield your cast chance doesn't drop. So things like tonfas and claws are fine for casters.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 06:14:11 2015 No.13557183 >>13557033 Sadly that skill destroys everything. You have to do it the old fashioned way. At least it trains CON.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 06:30:55 2015 No.13557233 >>13557033 not worth it in my opinion, too rare. >>13555489 I hate windowed mode because there is no scaling/zoom. It's too tiny in windowed mode.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 07:49:26 2015 No.13557422 >>13557233 Are clovers still too rare at lvl 500 Mining?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 09:10:19 2015 No.13557596 >>13554167 Cock addict are you that bored?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 09:37:09 2015 No.13557647 How many points do you need to join the mage guild? Can't find it on wiki and my storehouses are pretty far away from Lumiest.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 10:08:14 2015 No.13557718 >>13557647 25-30 or so?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 10:50:40 2015 No.13557858 >>13555843 I play at default since making the res bigger makes me unable to see the topmost row of tiles in every map and it's really fucking annoying.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 11:38:55 2015 No.13558003 >level 33 >neck, ring, arms, and 9 hands What should my last slot be?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 14:56:28 2015 No.13558702 Well, I went back to fight Metal Vesda again, almost died again. It's crazy how strong he is. I beat the other two dudes with little issue as well as the H Sister, but he's a nightmare.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 15:03:34 2015 No.13558725 Is the level of the dungeons in the overworld affected by the level of the highest dungeon you've CLEARED or just entered?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 15:04:30 2015 No.13558733 >>13558725 Cleared.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 15:06:37 2015 No.13558740 >>13558725 Highest dungeon you've cleared but that's just one factor. Dungeon level can also be influenced by continent as well. Think there's one more factor but I'm pretty sure it's not fame though.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 15:08:05 2015 No.13558745 >>13558740 Main story progress. Why do I have to explain this every thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 15:08:26 2015 No.13558749 File: 482 KB, 800x1120, 1342987594932.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13558733 >>13558740 Thanks anons

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 15:11:58 2015 No.13558766 >>13558745 Maybe you should update the wiki for the greater good anon!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 15:33:35 2015 No.13558865 File: 448 KB, 630x353, 1356580780990.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13558745 No bully anon! I got 2 of the 3! I'm making progress! At least I didn't say fame affected it as that would be circulating wrong information.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 18:21:16 2015 No.13559557 If I have a bad relationship with a vendor, do the prices get worse? I don't understand why attract level or w/e decreased each time you talk to someone.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 18:27:07 2015 No.13559588 >>13559557 I don't think prices get worse, but I'm not sure. I ended up becoming friends with a magic vendor just because I bought so much stuff from him.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 18:32:09 2015 No.13559625 File: 437 KB, 626x720, question.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13559588 What's the difference between these two items? What does the crossed key symbol mean?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 18:38:23 2015 No.13559654 >>13559625 it's for an old, phased out version of artifact fusion. It's been in since vanilla and doesn't do shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 18:39:00 2015 No.13559659 >>13559625 No difference, the symbol relates to an unimplemented game mechanic.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 18:39:45 2015 No.13559663 >>13559654 >>13559659 Thank you anons~!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 19:08:10 2015 No.13559766 I'm a bit worried my stats are low for my level. Not that it'll matter much in the long run, but I don't want to be too weak.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 19:29:18 2015 No.13559847 >>13559766 What level are you?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 19:36:06 2015 No.13559892 >>13559847 49. My only stats above 100 besides speed are strength and perception, and perception is only above 100 because of equipment boosts.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 19:42:49 2015 No.13559923 >>13559892 Eh, you're ok still. Once you reach 60 and the majority of you stats are not at least 100 then start worrying.

Anonymous Wed May 27 19:47:46 2015 No.13559950

>>13559892
I was in a similar boat to you a few days ago

focus on magic shops, getting an altar in your home to bless waters, gathering scrolls of wonder/flying/etc and the rest should come in time.

securing a constant stream of potential potions from a shit ton of vendors in your small castle should be priority #1 and I fucked around for 230 hours before figuring out how important it was. You must become a whore of all things potential.

keep making that platinum and skill training (assuming you are on 1.45) and keeping main skill potentials high.

Picnic baskets can help too if you have pets.

I am now level 50, focusing on running dungeons for money as I can never keep enough of a buffer and see potenials/other high value shit rotting on vendors.

I opted to grind all the god rewards (except the training wish reward) so I haven't even gotten to kumi worship yet. I just got to the second contient and am trying to work towards little sisters for kumi statues and herb seeds.

Herbs for herb in recipe are now my #1 priority and should make my stat gains retarded with potentials kept high.

keep all spell potentials from 200-380% assuming associated attribute is superb~

str 97
con 113
dex 117
per 139
learn 122
will 104
magic 92
cha 117

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 19:48:08 2015 No.13559953 >>13559923 Alright, I can probably get Perception up there, but everything else is hanging around the 50-60 area.

Anonymous Wed May 27 19:50:07 2015 No.13559969

Well I feel like an idiot, but how do you load a custom spritesheet for your PC and/or turn off equipment showing up in Elona+? I swear there used to be an option when you interacted with yourself or opened your character sheet but I'm not finding anything other than portrait and regular character create options. Granted the last time I played was vanilla Elona so maybe they took that out but that'd be kinda dumb....

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 19:57:21 2015 No.13560016 >>13559969 Buy a dresser from a general goods vendor. I had the same problem the other day.

Anonymous Wed May 27 19:57:33 2015 No.13560018
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>>13559950
I wonder how well I am doing.
I finished the main quest and just hit 41 faith so I got earth and luck weapons and am now working on maxing harvester.
I can kill level 80 enemies pretty easy and it feels like everything gives me AP now but I haven't really been getting into act 2.
I have 5 little sister points saved up for kumi statues when I get that quest but I felt like trying to get rank 1 in the arena.
I accidentally used my last mutant slot on a neck so now I have two, which isn't that terrible since twin blades seems pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 20:04:27 2015 No.13560050 >>13560018 Stats are ok for your level and it seems you already know what to do to start growing them aggressively so no problems there. Might want to start looking at your speed though.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 20:07:54 2015 No.13560075 File: 318 KB, 798x597, character.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13560018 I think I really need to step things up. I'm starting to see why my damage isn't very good.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 20:23:15 2015 No.13560140 >>13560050 I'm wearing ring of steel dragon and I'm complicated. I've been training a mount but it's so weak it's hard to bring with me everywhere. I set it in defense mode sometimes but it just make it not train skills and me weaker.

Anonymous Wed May 27 20:27:01 2015 No.13560155

>>13560140
Well a lot of my speed is from hooves and feathers so maybe it's worse than I thought.
I guess I should just work on my mount's speed more than my own.
If I cast speed while mounted does it affect both of us?
I've been struggling to get the literacy to do that.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 20:28:53 2015 No.13560161 >>13560075 How's your spell damage?

Anonymous Wed May 27 20:31:08 2015 No.13560170

>>13560155
You'll have to make a decision soon about where your speed will come from. Either directly from your guy or from your mount. It will be very hard and naturally take twice as long if you focus on both. At any rate, consider spending AP to bump speed up for your character or your mount depending on what route you want to go.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 20:32:59 2015 No.13560180 >>13560155 If you cast speed while mounted your mount is the one that is affected.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 20:36:07 2015 No.13560190 File: 352 KB, 796x597, magic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13560161 Nonexistent. I'm trying not to use offensive magic. Only really use stuff like Hero or Attribution Shield for bosses.

Anonymous Wed May 27 20:50:10 2015 No.13560249

>>13560190
A Eulderna that doesn't fully embrace their magical heritage? Odd, they're one of the best races to go full magic hyrbid with as the race stats indicate. Well, it's good that you're leveling your buff spells at least. If you're intentionally trying to not use offensive magic for role playing purposes I will understand but if this is not the case you're only losing out if you don't use the offensive spells. There are better races for melee purposes that could of picked up spellcasting on the side.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 20:54:24 2015 No.13560265 >>13560249 Yeah, it's partially flavor for me, I know it's not particularly the best idea. That said, I wonder if it's my equipment holding back my damage, since none of it increases skills like Two Hand or Tactics.

Anonymous Wed May 27 21:02:52 2015 No.13560290

1) do you guys manage furniture in your house by increasing a few high value/quality pieces base material? Is there a cap per piece? I have a ton of garbage furtinrue taking up space I'd love to get rid of.

2) do little sister turn in rewards stack if you don't take an item? I am too early in the game to get a Kumi statue but I am running out of room to store more sisters in my party roster

3) do you hoard engagement jewlery and then just give it to a random pet before dismissing them? or do you hoard it all for adventurers?

4) I have completely ignored adventurers except the ones that visit your home to trade shit with, is there any worthwile interactions with them?

5) do you sell your high cooked food (steaks, etc) in your shop or to NPC vendors? do they rot in your shop? does rotten food have lower sale value?

Anonymous Wed May 27 21:20:15 2015 No.13560355

>>13560290
1) change material -> stairs, and a few madam's instruments. All you really need, everything else is aesthetics

2) they stack. just go ahead and turn them in.

3) Eat the rings, give away the necklaces.

4) you can get kagami mochi, little sisters, etc every new year. It's nothing to persue heavily but it's something to keep in mind.

5) Sell it in your shop, you get more money from it. Sometimes it doesnt sell at all though. It doesn't decay in your shop, but it may decay when you pick it up again, so best to eat food that doesnt sell rather than picking it up .
Rotten food does indeed sell for less.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 21:38:27 2015 No.13560414 >>13560170 How do I make my mount catch up to me? I already engineered every skill into it I think as well as all the parts it was missing. Should I just pump evasion and speed into it and hope it works out?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 21:48:00 2015 No.13560447 Should I make an effort to bless deeds before using them?

Anonymous Wed May 27 21:51:59 2015 No.13560464

>>13560414
Hmm, have you considered gene engineering lots of ring slots into your pets so that they can equip them with lots of speed rings? If that works you may want to try that. Again, your pet gains AP so you can use AP points to increase your pet/mounts speed.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 22:10:16 2015 No.13560549 >>13560464 Mostly worried about keeping it alive. If I make myself a little stronger I can evolve it again but last time I tried the fort needed I got one shot.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 22:27:57 2015 No.13560613 does the <arbalest> work with thrown weapons? Is it worth using if I don't use a firearm/bow/xbow?

Anonymous Wed May 27 22:46:50 2015 No.13560673

>>13560549
To make a mount keep up, you need to unmount it, making the purpose of using it as mount moot.
Simply catch ever stronger monsters if you go the mount way, you can always keep a long-term pet at your side that you'll use as your final mount.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 22:53:09 2015 No.13560692 File: 233 KB, 736x537, 0c662c555efa4893b22f2b3471528fae.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tfw bards slowly steal your money in towns

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:00:00 2015 No.13560711 File: 350 KB, 795x597, idontunderstand.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I found it. This is my wall. I just can't win.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:01:51 2015 No.13560721 >>13560692 Part of the reason I kill them on sight. There can only be one entertainer after all. That and you can possibly get the Stradivarius when you kill them. http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Stradivarius

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:04:18 2015 No.13560731 >>13560711 Might want to get some more levels,stats, etc and then try again. You'll get him eventually anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:07:11 2015 No.13560746 >>13560731 I don't get why he's so hard compared to the other two. It's so weird. I think I'm just gonna look for a few Little Sisters. I'll drown out my sorrow with Hero Cheese.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:07:33 2015 No.13560752 >>13560721 what the hell does increased reward mean anyway? I am assuming it is a raw +% increase to performer gold gains is there a metric to it?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:15:25 2015 No.13560791 >>13560711 you can autismally grind in this game anon, just come back later

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:19:31 2015 No.13560799 >>13560752 I have no idea anon. All I know is it sounds good and it's the only instrument I know of that increases your reward. Thus, I use it and try not to think too much about how it works.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:19:36 2015 No.13560801 >>13560752 it means that people give you bukkakes when you perform

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:28:46 2015 No.13560848 >>13560613 It works with all ranged weapons.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 27 23:35:19 2015 No.13560887 >>13560848 Imagine throwing two potions instead of one, that would be fun.

Anonymous Wed May 27 23:45:16 2015 No.13560928

>>13560018
Another method for really speeding up your combat based stats (str, con, dex and per) that's cheaper and easier than herbed food is by fighting with inferior grade weapons of all sorts ( raw, cloth, etc) with acid damage. This works especially well on really weak but tanky enemies (anything that bursts into stone pillars with high con) when your fighting higher level versions of them in the arena.

Mining like hell in towns or dungeons and I guess Jure's Sasumata for the puppy cave helps a lot too but mainly for constitution.

But of course this shouldn't be until after you're able to maintain your attributes within superb through potential potions first because they'll end up within bad real fast.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 00:42:45 2015 No.13561152 The wiki said that you can use bookshelves to store spellbooks and potion racks to store potions. I bought a such-and-such 'bookshelf' item, but it doesn't let me use it as a container. Is the wiki wrong, or did I get a junk bookshelf?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 00:49:18 2015 No.13561172 >>13561152 Is the bookshelf on the ground in your home and are you trying to use it with "t"? If the answer to both these questions is "yes", I can't help you.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 00:51:13 2015 No.13561177 >>13561172 Yes to both. I just wanted to check if the bookshelf thing does work so I know if I just need a different one.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 01:38:55 2015 No.13561328 >>13561177 It needs to be one created in game after the version update. If you already had one, that one won't work.

Anonymous Thu May 28 02:30:22 2015 No.13561531

What are the most interesting things you can breed on a ranch? Farming rabbits for tails and such is pretty uninteresting and slow.

Right now I'm doing cupid of love for happy beds and fairy for miromis. Is there better stuff out there to be breeding? Do any uniques yield results when ranched?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 03:20:51 2015 No.13561660 >>13561531 Putit, Mandrake, Troll, and Hunger Demons.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 03:26:37 2015 No.13561684 >>13560746 Metal Vesda wears <Wings of Vesda> which has a powerful special ability that procs on his melee (?) attack. Keep your distance and you'll only need to deal with his breath

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 03:29:47 2015 No.13561687 How useful is that Megid Flame ability?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 03:30:12 2015 No.13561688 By the way, when you are strong enough to fight dozens of dragons/titans, Ragnarok becomes the fastest way to obtain tons of troll meat.

Anonymous Thu May 28 03:31:55 2015 No.13561691

>>13561660
I usually just go outside and find a hunger demons when I need them.
I already have 3 mandrake ranches and find the max pet limit disturbing.

>>13561684
It procs on ranged attack, Metal Vesda is a gunner.

>>13560746
It has to be strong. Gunner AI has a very exploitable weakness. Stealing their ammo will screw them up badly.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 03:34:02 2015 No.13561693 >>13561688 And forces time or ether disease to progress while you wait for the ether wind to end. Which is not really a bad thing if I think about it...

Anonymous Thu May 28 03:38:01 2015 No.13561704

>>13561687
I would be useful if I had stick with lightning bolts as my main spell, but raw magic damage is just so good...
My dragon is a dualwielding shields MA pet. It was nice to see his fire damage do just as much as his regular claws when his fire resist was still the best of his.

Anonymous Thu May 28 05:31:10 2015 No.13561919

>>13560752
It gives you a higher chance of getting a quality increase on the items that people throw at you (e.g. Miracle to Godly). That's it.

if ( var_1978 > 50 ) {
flt calcobjlv(var_57(144, var_242) / 10 + var_1978 / 5), calcfixlv(3 + (rnd(3) == 0))
}
if ( var_1978 > 0 & var_1978 <= 50 ) {
flt calcobjlv(var_57(144, var_242) / 10 + var_1978 / 5), calcfixlv(3 + (rnd(20) == 0))
}
if ( var_1978 == 0 ) {
if ( encfindspec(var_514, 49) != (-1) ) {
flt calcobjlv(var_57(144, var_242) / 8), calcfixlv(3 + (rnd(4) == 0))
}
else {
flt calcobjlv(var_57(144, var_242) / 10), calcfixlv(3)
}
}

var_1978 is used for Ensemble. If playing an instrument, it's 0.

var_57(144, 242) is the "performance rating", perse, of the current performance.

The encfindspec(var_514, 49) checks if the instrument being played has the increases reward enchantment.

The calcobjlvl and calcfixlvl are determining the quality of the item they throw at you, with calcfixlvl being the "rank" (great, miracle, godly, etc.)

I think that's essentially everything that's needed to understand the code snippet. Anyways, that's the only point where there's a check for that enchant, and the stradivarius itself is never checked for anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 06:28:34 2015 No.13562022 I got lizardmen for my fighter's guild quest. How rare are they?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 06:38:34 2015 No.13562043 >>13562022 Pretty common. I think they show up in the puppy cave reliably.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 12:05:14 2015 No.13562806 >>13561684 >>13561691 It procs on both ranged and melee attacks, because fuck you. >>13562022 They're everywhere. Lucky fucker.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 12:07:23 2015 No.13562816 If I put a shield in my 'shoot' slot, will I get the shield skill bonus to PV while not incurring the spell cast chance penalty? Also, will the shield skill train with it in the 'shoot' slot?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 12:30:20 2015 No.13562898 I always thought it was neat how you can coat your weapon with a poison bottle, but then you lose all of your karma by hitting things. Rather lame.

Anonymous Thu May 28 12:38:24 2015 No.13562934
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>>13562898
You can slash, pierce, shoot, hit, crush, burn, freeze, zap, melt, twist, blast, choke, send to the nether, reduce to atoms, and generally kill enemies in just about any way possible including making them commit suicide

And only coating your weapon in poison makes you lose karma

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 12:42:13 2015 No.13562952 >>13562934 Right? I mean it is kinda strong for something you achieve with just a bottle, but they could make it a sort of endow that lasts a certain amount of turns, or something, but make it usable.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 12:47:05 2015 No.13562973 >>13562898 I thought it was funny that Bards aren't considered people. Kill anyone else in the city? Bad karma, don't do it. But bards are free game.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 12:52:31 2015 No.13562997 >>13562973 Any NPC you can't talk with carries no karma penalty, not just bards.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 13:04:41 2015 No.13563043 >>13562973 the game is leaving you to your right to throw rocks (or any other heavy thing) at bards for playing bad music and stealing your money

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 13:25:31 2015 No.13563121 >>13562934 It's been a really long time since I did this, though. Would a secret treasure of the wicked negate the karma loss?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 13:37:14 2015 No.13563165 >>13563121 This guy, just tried coating my weapon and shuriken with a poison bottle but nothing happens, so I assume this was changed at some point. Sad times. I was almost ready to make a thief roleplay character for shenanigans.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 13:37:32 2015 No.13563166 File: 290 KB, 797x596, imthegreatest.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I did it!

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 13:38:31 2015 No.13563174 >>13563166 grats

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 13:58:18 2015 No.13563257 Is it generally not recommended to use two different kinds of weapons for dual wielding? Mostly for pre-south-tyris purposes.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 14:01:29 2015 No.13563273 >>13563257 It is generally recommended to focus on a single weapon type, so that you train it faster and keep your accuracy and damage high.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 14:04:46 2015 No.13563285 File: 175 KB, 353x419, 1404760634693.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563273 Thanks anon! I used to think it was a good idea to train more stats.

Anonymous Thu May 28 14:16:24 2015 No.13563333

>>13563285
Well I mean if you WANT to train two different weapons for reasons, you totally can.

You'll just train, for example, short swords twice as fast if you use two rather than a long sword and short sword. You don't really LOSE anything, you're just gaining twice as much exp for obvious reasons.

I'm assuming you already know about weight penalties and all that.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 14:24:39 2015 No.13563367 I feel overwhelmed by how many options there are pet wise. Any suggestions for a spell-caster? Do the god pets remain viable?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 14:28:36 2015 No.13563390 >>13563333 I do know about weight penalties. I'll probably stick to a weapon type on my next file and see how that goes, thanks anon.

Anonymous Thu May 28 14:39:35 2015 No.13563437
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>>13563367
Any pet can be made viable. I'm a part time spell caster and overall ranged user since I also use a gun. I decided to go with a melee pet/tank and used the little girl you can get at the start of the game when you reach Vernis. She's now a Valkyrie and is scaling faster than my character. Went with a melee/tank pet because I wanted to cast and shoot things in peace. At first I was worried about my spells affecting her but that's not a problem anymore due to upping control magic and her having a lot of health. Now she's a wrecking ball of destruction and a valuable partner in my conquests of awakened dungeons.

I think you can't really go wrong with the god pets though and the Golden Knight and Defender are pretty popular. They're both tank pets as well. Might want to look into them but as I said earlier, any pet can become viable if you put the effort into them. I should also make mention that dragon pets are nice too because they have a ton of health.

Anonymous Thu May 28 14:49:34 2015 No.13563479

I am having issues clearing dungeons on my character, I started as archer and currently have 4 pets (little girl/golden knight/2x jure swordsman) and I am Lv. 23. My pets end up dying pretty quick, except the little girl and knight. But when I do dungeons that are like lv 18 I cant clear them. Any tips?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 14:54:35 2015 No.13563502 >>13563479 Also wanted to add, most of my dungeons that spawn are way higher level than me, typically they are lv. 30+ so I only have a few dungeons I can actually go into...

Anonymous Thu May 28 15:08:39 2015 No.13563568

>>13563479
>>13563502

The dungeon levels matter way less than your stats, remember this is the game that expects you to kill a kobold right out the door.

Either sell/gene the swordsmen into your knight and girl, or look for a ranged pet to round your party out. Speaking of genes, getting everyone pickpocket and training in puppy cave might help.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 16:15:05 2015 No.13563850 >>13563568 Thanks for the tip! Jure swordsman seemed pretty underwhelming. Right now I am trying to find something worth using a lv. 20. monster ball on and trying to find what gives the pick pocket skill to pets.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 16:18:50 2015 No.13563878 >>13563850 The Robber you can buy from the slave trader in Derphy seems pretty universal in giving pets pickpocket. I'm still trying to figure out what gives pets fishing/mining/etc for the materials myself though.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 16:19:08 2015 No.13563880 File: 58 KB, 1141x103, ZeroSum.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Give person x item. Get x item as reward for completing quest. Are these NPCs bullying me?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 16:38:54 2015 No.13564003 >>13563880 I wouldn't say so. You got more out than you put in. They may have given you back the teleportation rod but they also gave you gold and platinum for your troubles.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 16:51:49 2015 No.13564086 latest monstergirl character sheet gives me blank white square rabbits, but looking at the sheet they're on there, I'm assuming the latest Elona+ changed something, but unsure how to tweak the sheet myself to fix it.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 16:58:08 2015 No.13564121 Every single time I've visited the holy well in Noyel it's given me a negative result. I didn't mix it with any potions though, so is this just RNG? If you do corrupt it, does it just remain permanently dry or only give negative results?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 17:10:50 2015 No.13564227 Man, I kinda hate that I can't use a certain piece of equipment unless I want to end up screwed. Need to find sleep resist on something good.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 17:14:59 2015 No.13564247 >>13564121 The Noyel well just has a higher percentage of giving you good stuff instead of bad. If you do mix stuff into the holy well then it will just become a normal well like you find in any other town and as far as I know it can't be fixed.

Anonymous Thu May 28 17:37:21 2015 No.13564389

>>13564086
Fuck, I know there's more than one rabbit now, but I thought I got them all.

What version of elona are you on? 1.45 might have added a third (fourth?) rabbit slot.

http:// puu sh / hVnwW.bmp
This is my most recent version (I made it for 1.44, going to check 1.45 now), so check and see if it matches up with what you have. If it does, I'll see if I can track down the missing rabbit square.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:00:20 2015 No.13564526 Yeah, I went back to the archived threads and checked the latest update against mine, I have the 1.44 may212015 version, same as that one.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:20:37 2015 No.13564607 >>13564526 alrighty then. Are you on elona 1.45? Seems like there's some new enemies. I'll work on updating it, check back in a little bit.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:29:18 2015 No.13564652 >>13549517 Do you realize you Killed Mani exactly at Midnight?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:35:09 2015 No.13564681 Hey, I tried to do an escort mission but it says that my party is full. I tried leaving a party member at the house, then at the inn, but it still says that party is full. What do?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 18:44:09 2015 No.13564729 >>13564681 Send your allies off to the doujou.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:11:47 2015 No.13564882 >>13564607 Da. Elona+ 1.45

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 19:21:39 2015 No.13564921 >>13564882 Here you go. Spritesheet for Elona 1.45, with the missing squirrel. http://puu sh / i4bRS.bmp

Anonymous Thu May 28 20:35:04 2015 No.13565233
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How is my pet doing all this when i've got her just trapped in My Home?

Like what the fuck I come home and your shit is training ridiculously harder than I did my entire time in the puppy cave.
Is that bitch quaffing my stack of potential potions on the floor?

Anonymous Thu May 28 20:46:37 2015 No.13565287

>>13565233
You both have the traveling skill. Traveling triggers when you enter certain maps, and have walked at least 300 miles since the last trigger. When traveling triggers, you and your pets with traveling that are on the map gain XP. Pets tend to have amazing skill potentials, thanks to their ability to just throw gold at it.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:47:40 2015 No.13565290 >>13565233 She's training extra hard so she can adventure with you instead of having to stay home all the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:50:55 2015 No.13565309 >>13565233 Please don't call Tillet a bitch, she is a proper lady.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 20:58:17 2015 No.13565354 File: 303 KB, 797x596, stalemate.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I reached a stalemate. Maybe I should stock up on food and potential and just live here.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:14:37 2015 No.13565439 What the hell should I be saving my scroll of gain attribute for? should I use them or save them for artifact fusion?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 21:20:22 2015 No.13565470 >>13565439 Save them for artifact fusion. It's easy to get all the skills in the game without the scroll anyways

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:01:46 2015 No.13565678 >>13564389 You missing two long sprites above pic 31-32, and one sprite in the last row. As far as I remember, they were added after 1.44.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 22:57:27 2015 No.13566001 Does anyone ever attempt to finish off a particularly hated enemy with a piece of shit? I have a bunch from my farm and I use them to end thieves.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:08:47 2015 No.13566058 File: 8 KB, 448x23, why.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why would anybody make this wish?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 28 23:16:45 2015 No.13566091 File: 15 KB, 624x30, nice.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13566058 The followup was even better.

Anonymous Fri May 29 00:24:20 2015 No.13566379
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>>13566001
I've never actually used it on enemies, but one time in Vernis while I was chillen at Shena's bar, just for the hell of it, I decided to throw 'a shit' at that punk Loyter (like I didn't know what would happen next), and man, was he pissed! So I got kinda scared and teleported toward the top of the map by the elders house with a scroll. The son of a bitch just about nabbed me by the skin of his teeth right before I could walk off the map, after he already managed to crash through a wall in Shena's bar and destroy most of poor Miches' house in the process...lol

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:31:09 2015 No.13566602 Does the B/U/C status of seeds make a difference when gardening?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 01:32:23 2015 No.13566604 >>13566602 No.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:03:23 2015 No.13566735 >>13563878 Fishing - flying frogs, they are common in the wilderness Gardening - farmers from Yowyn or miners from Vernis Mining - goblins, bombs, golems Carpentry - ents, cyclops, titans Is there any monster that has Gene Engineer?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:06:51 2015 No.13566753 >>13566735 No creature at all has gene engineer. It's the only good reason to give a pet a scroll of G.Att

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:13:05 2015 No.13566774 >>13566735 >>13566753 Why would one want to give a pet gene engineer anyway?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:17:52 2015 No.13566789 >>13566774 I was going to reflexively say "to train learning" but I don't think pets really gain anything from increasing their learning stat other than that tiny MP increase.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:18:52 2015 No.13566792 >>13566774 Having a pet with a material collection skill will let them occasionally collect materials when they kill something which you can then collect through dialog.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:24:03 2015 No.13566807 >>13566792 but... there are no materials associated with gene engineering and they won't get any exp from training it?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:28:17 2015 No.13566814 >>13566807 Well that'll teach me to actually comprehend a post before responding to it. For some reason I though he was talking about fishing. No idea what benefit Gene Engineer would have on an ally then.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:32:27 2015 No.13566819 File: 756 B, 48x48, ss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13566807 Huh? You train Gene Engineer every time you gather materials from this kind of sampling spots.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:32:48 2015 No.13566821 >>13566807 Pets actually get materials with detection, gardening, fishing and gene engineering. It's more like the way one of sampling spots train your gene engineering then you gather materials.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 02:34:20 2015 No.13566826 >>13566789 Pets have the same chance to gain additional experience for skill gains from LER that the PC does. Gene Engineer is also one of the "collecting" skills, so it lets your pet get materials from that group from killing enemies.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 13:45:15 2015 No.13568081 File: 367 KB, 806x697, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13563273 I may be having problems with that. I like stopping time a lot.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 14:54:15 2015 No.13568321 Is there any more way to become more vampire-like than taking Drain Blood and dressing like a hipster?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 14:58:54 2015 No.13568336 >>13568321 Having thralls and remaining well covered during daylight would help I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 14:59:28 2015 No.13568337 >>13568321 Mazin race

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 17:07:44 2015 No.13568753 File: 514 KB, 795x597, ragnarok.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Since I still can't beat the boss, I thought I'd try desperate measures. I got close.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 17:16:40 2015 No.13568786 Now that skill potentials are mostly a non-issue, what should skill points be invested in during the early/mid-game? Core skills based around combat and necessary special actions?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 17:18:13 2015 No.13568800 >>13568321 sleeping in a coffin?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 18:33:18 2015 No.13569042 >>13568321 I wonder how easy it would be to mod in a skill or spell that lets you turn into a bat and ups your speed or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 18:48:06 2015 No.13569095 1. If I turn in little sisters without getting rewards, will the rewards stack and I'll be able to get multiple later on? 2. Is it worthwhile to get multiple Statue of Kumiromi? Will I get enough herb seeds without them?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 18:50:28 2015 No.13569104 >>13569095 Wow I just noticed somebody asked the exact same question in this thread. Sorry anons! My 2nd question is still relevant though, I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 18:55:25 2015 No.13569113 >>13569104 Considering that the very same post you referenced is talking about saving up for kumiromi statues (as are most other kumi-related posts in the thread), it's clear that many people think it is worth it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 19:18:15 2015 No.13569173 File: 22 KB, 679x26, Level0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 19:30:50 2015 No.13569216 >>13569173 I thought all spells start at level 1, so how is it possible to have a level 0 teleport other?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 19:41:54 2015 No.13569263 Why does furniture sometimes have things like "It grants your resistance to lightning. [#]" on it?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 19:45:39 2015 No.13569282 >>13569263 material type bonuses, usually.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 20:21:26 2015 No.13569394 Do (Herb) [rare herb]s give greater stat experience than consuming all of those herbs separately?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 20:29:45 2015 No.13569424 >>13569394 It's a waste. Herb your curaria instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 20:56:08 2015 No.13569570 >>13569424 Does blessing an (herb) herb do anything?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 21:01:12 2015 No.13569598 >>13569570 not anything that ordinary blessed food wouldn't do. Lucky day chance and it being more filling.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 21:01:58 2015 No.13569601 >>13569598 What does blessed food normally do?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 21:02:22 2015 No.13569603 >>13569601 > Lucky day chance and it being more filling.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 21:03:38 2015 No.13569611 >>13569603 Oh right, sorry! I interpreted that the wrong day. I forgot about that minor +100 luck buff.

Anonymous Fri May 29 21:41:29 2015 No.13569740

>>13568753
I was stuck at meshera alpha for a while until I just brought my gunner pet with the wings of vesda, got him to aggro the boss, and locked myself in a wall creation barricade with the fetters of earth until the pet got lucky enough with critical hits and the assist weapon effect to kill the boss.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 21:44:30 2015 No.13569751 >>13569740 I have no pets worth using right now. So I'm back to grinding for more power. I won't rest until I have a 35x damage multiplier. I'm at 25.6x so far.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 23:17:59 2015 No.13570028 >beat up a dog >it asks to join my party >ride it >speed doubles Thank you lord.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 23:26:30 2015 No.13570048 File: 38 KB, 538x397, B-b-baka! It's not like I wanted you to ride me or anything..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13570028 P-please be gentle anon-kun.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 23:40:30 2015 No.13570104 How come kumi won't accept any seeds from me?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 29 23:51:33 2015 No.13570151 >>13570104 Changed in E+. Vegetables still work, though, and I think so do the edible leaves you can pick up in the wilderness.

Anonymous Sat May 30 00:24:40 2015 No.13570283

This page http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Fighter%27s_Guild says that healing/identifying/smithing costs from all vendors in all towns is halved. Does that include South Tyris as well? If it does would it be worth it to join the fighter's guild for those benefits or should I just join the thieves guild since I am playing a ranged firearms character?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 00:30:11 2015 No.13570313 >>13570283 Not really worth it, the only one I ever really use is the smithing one. But the price is reduced for South Tyris too.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 00:30:20 2015 No.13570314 >>13570283 The fighter's guild is worth joining for Flame Edge, and then dropping like it's hot. Mages guild is the only guild that gives you anything of real long-term value. And even then it becomes technically redundant once you reach Lost Irva.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 00:33:04 2015 No.13570322 >>13570314 Is the Flame Edge even that good? I mean, it's obviously a decent weapon, but from what I tried, the Claymore is better.

Anonymous Sat May 30 00:36:44 2015 No.13570347

>>13570322
There's better swords, but the Flame Edge is a lot easier to get than the ones better than it if you don't get bullshit guild assignments. The Flame Edge also absolutely trivializes anything undead. It's not a "use this forever" weapon, but it's a great interim weapon that you can reliably get fairly early on.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 00:38:56 2015 No.13570360 >>13570347 That is understandable. I got lucky, without that luck it'd be better to go with. That said, I wonder which weapon besides the god ones are the best. I've been using this sword forever but nothing has really matched it in consistency.

Anonymous Sat May 30 00:46:15 2015 No.13570394

>>13570360
Best three longswords for general 2-handing or sword&boarding are, in order, Kindness Blade, Hosenka, Grandel.
Dragon Slayer beats anything but Kindness Blade for fighting dragons and/or gods, and Flame Edge beats anything but Kindness Blade for undead.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 00:49:17 2015 No.13570407 Any reason not to drink a potential potion? I won one in blackjack.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 00:49:34 2015 No.13570409 >>13570394 I see, that makes sense. Can't get most of those until you kill some later stuff in the game though, so it'll be a while before I can get my hand on most of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 00:50:19 2015 No.13570412 >>13570394 What are some good dual wield weapons? I seem to be favoring short swords currently but I might buy a diablo soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 00:53:39 2015 No.13570423 >>13570407 They are a lot better blessed, so getting 5-9 in stack, blessing and drinking is the optimal strategy.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 00:56:45 2015 No.13570441 >>13570412 Short Swords, best to worst: Black Monkshood, Dynamic Saber, Melodyus, Lucky Dagger, Ether Dagger, Oti-Tubaki. It's hard to recommend an exact weapon without knowing where you are in the story.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 01:18:33 2015 No.13570545 >>13569173 >>13569216 The etherwind disease that draw stocks from rods.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 01:49:08 2015 No.13570672 Is there any race (and thus pet) with more base life than dragons? Wondering if using the fire dragon child as long term pet is worth it or if there's a better option.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:15:54 2015 No.13570778 >>13570672 They start at level 2. I'm still trying to make mine viable and it's just holding me back at this point. I let him have all the gold he wants but he still levels pretty slowly.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:16:39 2015 No.13570783 >>13570778 What level were you when you got him?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 02:22:54 2015 No.13570822 >>13570783 30ish. I'm 42 now and he is 28. He dies a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:19:07 2015 No.13571011 What are the options to get eggs? Horses and mandrakes doesn't seem to lay any, nor invested food vendor sells them.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 03:26:08 2015 No.13571037 >>13571011 Chickens get a huge bonus to egg-laying.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 07:08:32 2015 No.13571541 >>13571037 In hindsight this should have been incredibly obvious.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 07:43:29 2015 No.13571626 what music do you people use? the default stuff is getting old...

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 07:47:22 2015 No.13571639 >>13571626 I'm a fan of the RPG music pack.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 08:04:14 2015 No.13571681 >>13571626 Defaut music forever. So comfy.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 09:14:49 2015 No.13571825 >>13571626 I wanted to use the RPG pack but I couldn't get it working, so I'm just on default.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 09:21:22 2015 No.13571839 >>13570028 pascal is moe. >>13571626 I made my own, it's not too hard. Normally I just play with music off these days, and have sound effects so I can listen to whatever. >>13571825 You may have to edit the txt it comes with.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 09:44:07 2015 No.13571894 >>13569095 Daily reminder that the one who gets more potion of potentials per unit time is the one who gets more stats in the end and Kumiromi-slutting is plain useless.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 09:52:30 2015 No.13571910 >>13571894 What DL do sampling spots start giving the rare materials for potions of potential?

Anonymous Sat May 30 10:02:50 2015 No.13571928

>>13571910
I get plenty of them from my vendors. It might be better to just get a ton of money and alternate between buying from them and wasting time on the world map. You tend to rack up a lot of other goodies like love potions and scrolls of wonder this way too.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 10:37:11 2015 No.13572023 >>13571894 I'm trying to keep myself from drinking them too fast. My strength keeps dropping to Great, but I don't know if it's worth it since I might end up reaching the potential cap for other stats.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 11:44:04 2015 No.13572300 Is there a fix for preaching yet? I have huge faith but barely any perform and I'm tired of the game crashing every time I want to convert nonbelievers.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 12:54:44 2015 No.13572464 Anyone have experience with the Android pet? Looking at that cArmour bit flag that reduces damage taken by 75%. Considering that it comes with 90 life, wouldn't that be equivalent (actually better once you take into account healing) to 360 life?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 13:29:52 2015 No.13572574 File: 409 KB, 802x602, egg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13571011 Horses, in my case lame horses, can lay eggs. I'm running Elona+ 1.45

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 13:34:23 2015 No.13572586 >>13572574 They're born lame?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 13:38:06 2015 No.13572596 >>13571894 What is Kumiromi-slutting?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 13:38:33 2015 No.13572600 Does "It prevents you from teleporting" prevent pets from being relocated back to you by leash?

Anonymous Sat May 30 13:52:26 2015 No.13572660

>>13572586
I got the lame horses from Yowyn and all their offspring have been lame horses except for that one punk but weirdness is a part of Elona. Lame horses have a higher breeding power than Noyel horses, wild horses, and maybe any other horse if they exist so that's why I'm using them. I use this ranch to generate eggs and I usually kill off some of my lame horses to generate meat(reason why I want a decently high breeding power) to use as fertilizer for my many many farms.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 14:14:03 2015 No.13572741 If I have two pets with roughly the same level of power, both with the same AI, should I tag them together or leave them acting separately?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 14:16:53 2015 No.13572755 >>13572464 It would, yes. Androids are amazing tanks, better than anything but a ruby-covered bell.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 14:29:42 2015 No.13572793 File: 20 KB, 550x48, fuckingshit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat May 30 14:46:09 2015 No.13572863

>>13572741
I know that one anon was saying that he tagged his pets to farm AP for his pets. Not sure about the specifics of it as I've been training only one pet and will probably only train one pet at a time in the future since that's all I know but it has been working out very well for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 15:42:40 2015 No.13573125 Mana battery ether disease is pretty awesome when you don't have access to the mage's guild yet. No need to worry about spell stocks when you drain everything you touch.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 16:12:55 2015 No.13573312 >>13573125 Yeah, right up until you accidently a rod of wishing.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 17:44:41 2015 No.13573805 Woah, I didn't know the extra attack perk let you get three attacks in even with a single weapon.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:05:28 2015 No.13573898 Theres gotta be an easy way to get these stupid fucking books for the mage quest, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:06:35 2015 No.13573904 >>13573898 I asked the same question. There isn't. Gotta dungeon and quest and hope for the best.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:07:46 2015 No.13573911 >>13573898 >>13573904 Oh, actually Wizard's Harvest has a chance of giving you one. Not like it's terribly easy to come by stocks of that, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:10:50 2015 No.13573928 >>13573898 300 hours into the game. Still not guild rank 1. Don't really care though.

Anonymous Sat May 30 18:16:48 2015 No.13573954

If I equip a pet with an equipment that allows you to digest rotten food, will it be effective on them? When I tried it I still got the "so-and-so looks glum" message. Also, is there any nutritional difference between fresh and rotten food if you have that equipment?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:19:09 2015 No.13573967 Well now I have 4 kumi statutes pumping out seeds. What do I do with them? Do I just eat curraria raw, because I have been.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:20:09 2015 No.13573975 >>13572600 No.

Anonymous Sat May 30 18:22:55 2015 No.13573986

>>13573967
Learn how to cook, if you get a a curaria, stomachfillia, and another herb, you can combine them with food to make a even more stat boosting snack.

Also yes, I've had so many curarias that I had to leave a ton because it was weighing me down.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:25:50 2015 No.13574004 >>13573986 I have 12 cooking, 5 curaria, 19 stomachfillia, and one alaruna. How exactly do I combine them. Is my cooking too low?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:27:52 2015 No.13574011 >>13574004 You need a pot of fusion.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:44:48 2015 No.13574104 How do you actually collect from gathering spots when there's a container on top? Is there a hotkey for it? Since I just use space. I know I can move the container but if they're heavy then I may be out of luck.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 18:56:12 2015 No.13574150 >>13574104 s for searching.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 19:03:57 2015 No.13574173 >>13574150 thanks anon!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 19:48:53 2015 No.13574314 File: 61 KB, 621x130, goddamn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have never met a boss that wanted to die less than this bitch. 200 strength, 300 strength, it doesn't make a damn difference.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 20:01:16 2015 No.13574350 A dragon bat just dropped a evolution heart. What pet should I use it on?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 20:16:13 2015 No.13574412 >>13574350 The blue one, duh. Hey dummy, how are we supposed to know what pet you should evolve when we don't know your pets? What pets do you even have?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 20:33:19 2015 No.13574485 >>13574412 I don't have any that I can use the heart on. I was talking about which one would be the most usefull if I were to get one and raise it

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 20:36:25 2015 No.13574499 >>13574485 What level dungeons are you clearing, what's your role, what pets do you have, what are their roles, how willing to grind a new pet up to your current powerlevel are you?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 20:38:18 2015 No.13574509 >>13574485 just use it on a roran and roleplay with your waifu

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 20:41:17 2015 No.13574523 >>13574499 Dungeons 40-45 Mage Little girl, Defender, qt fairy and a gold bell I'm willing to prostitute myself to shopkeepers to buy armor for the recruit

Anonymous Sat May 30 21:02:32 2015 No.13574598

>>13574523
Older Dog Sister -> Wolf Sister will get you a pet with charge attack, which can be invaluable.
Fire Dragon Child -> Adult Flame Dragon will get you a very durable melee pet
Younger Sister -> Yandere Sister will get you a powerful melee pet with high damage throughput both ways
Little Girl -> Valkyrie will get you an ally with Cheer, and won't require you to level a new pet
[Spider-type NPC] -> (unnamed evolution) gets you a pet that can half enemy attack

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 21:22:40 2015 No.13574662 File: 18 KB, 221x247, 1424388167473.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13574598 O-oh my bad Haha, s-sorry anon-kun I meant an <another heart> not an evolution one I'll look by myself, no need to worry about me anymore

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 21:34:28 2015 No.13574684 >>13574662 Fox Brother, Zombie Girl, Electric Sheep, Older Sister, Little Girl

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 21:51:28 2015 No.13574759 >>13574350 I wish I had a use for these hearts. I don't use pets though so they just rot in my house.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 22:41:26 2015 No.13574961 File: 380 KB, 796x597, welp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So all I really needed was Rampage. Didn't expect that.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 22:49:30 2015 No.13575004 >>13574684 Thanks~

>>	Anonymous Sat May 30 22:49:43 2015 No.13575006 File: 179 KB, 710x1126, slime girl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13574662 Do you even need to ask?

Anonymous Sat May 30 23:00:31 2015 No.13575074

I taught my pet Android every skill except:

Disarm Trap
Gene Engineering
Riding
Control Magic
Sense Quality
Carpentry
Tailoring

Aside from Gene Engineering which is a pain to get, are any of those skills of any use on a pet? I assume pets can't ride other pets, as awesome as that would be in concept.

Anonymous Sat May 30 23:51:50 2015 No.13575346

>>13575074
Disarm Trap gives them a chance to disarm traps that would otherwise have effected them.
Gengineering increases materials throughput, but can only be gotten via scroll of Gain Attribute, so not really worth it unless you KNOW it'll be the added skill.
Control Magic helps them dodge friendly AOE spells.

You are sadly correct that you can't have one pet ride another. I will never have a cavalry force.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 00:20:15 2015 No.13575450 If I use the business card, only my class feat will change? >>13575074 Pets use carpentry and tailoring for a chance to get materials on killing blow, same for gene engineering. Don't know about SQ/riding.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 00:23:42 2015 No.13575464 >>13575450 If you enter the desired class in lowercase, you will change class feats.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 00:41:30 2015 No.13575578 You know what? I think I want to get my hands on Blessed Jure as a pet. That is my ultimate goal. How difficult would that be?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 00:44:51 2015 No.13575598 >>13575578 One of the last things you would ever accomplish. The super-gods are pretty much as endgame as it gets, and they're every bit as difficult as that sounds.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 00:48:26 2015 No.13575614 >>13575598 Yeah, I'm expecting it to take a lot of time. I think I need to be level 600 at least from what the Astral Light Pen thing says too.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 01:21:11 2015 No.13575768 >>13575598 >read scroll of oracle at a party >says an item I am looking for was spawned in a dungeon That belongs to a different game right? I can't actually get it?

Anonymous Sun May 31 01:44:08 2015 No.13575864
File: 513 KB, 924x960, 1418140194094.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

I just noticed that some of Siro's works, such as pic related, are missing from his Pixiv, they are apparently private now, whatever that means.

Anyone knows any other place they are uploaded?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 01:50:12 2015 No.13575886 >>13575768 I'm very certain that artifacts that are lost to dungeon resets and the like will be re-generated in the future. If it's somewhere permanent like Lesimas, though, you'll need to go and find it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 01:54:41 2015 No.13575910 >>13575886 So should I try and farm the creatures that spawn it then?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 01:59:20 2015 No.13575936 >>13575910 Have the dungeons actually reset? (A sudden diastrophism hits the continent) If not, it'll still be in the dungeon it was generated in. What item are you looking for, specifically?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 02:00:51 2015 No.13575946 >>13575936 Yellow necklace. It said it dropped in a king's dungeon level 10-17? Most of the dungeons I see are 50 though.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 02:07:15 2015 No.13575997 >>13575946 I read another scroll and it said no artifacts had been generated.

Anonymous Sun May 31 02:08:45 2015 No.13576005
File: 38 KB, 620x83, 4attacks1weapon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Is there a reason I can get up to 4 attacks with the extra melee attack perk, even though I'm only using one weapon? I thought that maybe each piece of equipment gave an individual chance for an extra attack, but my only extra attack bonuses are coming from my gun and my necklace, and I'm not using a Warrior.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 02:18:39 2015 No.13576065 >>13576005 It is probably just activating from itself. Speaking of, I have two predator pets right now and some cards, should I change their class to anything?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 02:21:28 2015 No.13576076 >>13575997 Oracle only reports artifacts that have been (re)generated after the last time you read/cast oracle.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 02:25:53 2015 No.13576102 >>13576076 Guess I get to try to find this dungeon then.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 02:28:50 2015 No.13576115 >>13576102 It's one you've been in before. Items aren't generated in places you haven't entered. If all the dungeons have reset (diastrophism) then that dungeon no longer exists, and you'll have to hope it gets regenerated.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 02:42:02 2015 No.13576184 >>13576115 Reset as I was looking for it. I feel pretty silly for not seeing it drop, I usually check all of the things that drop it pretty carefully. I bet a pet killed one offscreen. Should I keep reading scrolls to see if it regenerates?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 04:03:53 2015 No.13576558 File: 728 KB, 1286x793, Panties are bretty gud.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the first pair of panties I have ever gotten and I have to say they are pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 07:21:26 2015 No.13577052 >>13572596 Kumiromi-slutting is sucking Kumiromi's dick for seeds

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 09:04:36 2015 No.13577315 >>13549517 holy shit those buff levels

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 09:28:35 2015 No.13577366 File: 376 KB, 801x695, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] IT IS COMPLETE!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 10:24:19 2015 No.13577511 >>13577366 Was it worth the trouble?

Anonymous Sun May 31 10:55:20 2015 No.13577606

>>13577511
Probably not.
I'd like to ride it but the only way to keep it getting enough exp to not be worthless is to feed it huge amounts of gold and let it clear rooms of weak enemies.
It's only a few levels below me now though and can handle itself pretty well.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 11:27:01 2015 No.13577726 >>13575864 sometimes artists just don't want people looking at certain pictures. They might see flaws or be unhappy with the result.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 12:51:06 2015 No.13577996 File: 12 KB, 587x23, idontunderstand.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think he's doing this on purpose now.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 12:58:07 2015 No.13578017 >>13577606 Please tell me you gene engineered it the Pickpocket skill.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 14:21:49 2015 No.13578258 >>13578017 It currently has 85 pickpocket. I was too lazy to actually fill out all the equipment slots on it, I should do that before it's too late.

Anonymous Sun May 31 14:34:47 2015 No.13578290

so I'm on a new file and I've only completed 1-3 lv dungeons and gone up to the first npc in lesimas for a cure corruption that I needed, and all dungeons are 15+ after the reset, which is actually higher than me, I don't remember the scaling being this steep. Was it changed recently or have I just not noticed?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 14:37:11 2015 No.13578298 >>13578290 It's because you're progressing in the main quest while also having completed a few dungeons. Stick to the puppy cave at the very beginning.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 14:38:11 2015 No.13578299 >>13578298 Yeah, I really needed that potion of cure corruption though. I didn't expect a 12+ level jump, but thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 14:49:54 2015 No.13578337 >>13578290 Speaking of that, I kinda hate that there's these level 180 dungeons everywhere now. I mean, I can beat them, but I get ridiculous experience from beating them.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 14:51:19 2015 No.13578342 File: 5 KB, 509x252, 349.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >shopkeeper selling artifact quality +21 speed ring >no gold >mfw I kind of expected a much bigger karma hit for doing this.

Anonymous Sun May 31 14:54:34 2015 No.13578362

>>13571894
Until someone explains how their method is better than the herb method of raising stats and posts a picture of their character and stats I will not believe you. So far there has been plenty of people who have attested to herbs working for them and have posted pictures of their characters as proof that the herb method is effective.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:00:23 2015 No.13578376 >>13578362 Doesn't attribute gain from herbed food work better with high potentials anyway?

Anonymous Sun May 31 15:07:22 2015 No.13578394

>>13578376
Yes, that's true. You want all your stat potentials to be superb at all times. That I agree with. Where I take issue is the Kumiromi slutting being useless. I don't take offense for what he calls but I don't want others to be mislead that getting herbs for stat building is useles. Also, if you're going to use herbs for building stats getting multiple Kumi statues and praying to them is a really good way of getting herb seeds because each statue is on a different timer. So if he's saying that's not effective I disagree on that point as well. Again, until there is a better method put forward Kumi slutting seems the best way to go.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:08:45 2015 No.13578397 >>13578337 If they're too tough, consider backing off and only taking on less dangerous dungeons for the time being so that they don't keep getting tougher

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:18:56 2015 No.13578430 >>13578394 See, my issue is that he didn't define what units of time we're using. It could be turns, gamedays, or realtime. All three of which require VERY different optimal grinding strategies.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:20:01 2015 No.13578439 >>13578397 The problem isn't difficulty, necessarily. I just had a tendency to find Big Daddy in the lower level dungeons, while I can't find him as much in higher level ones.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:23:34 2015 No.13578450 >>13578258 So all it's missing is a waist and a back. I could engineer two rings on it instead for more speed but I have a problem; what the hell is a Yith?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:27:39 2015 No.13578466 >>13578450 IA! IA!

Anonymous Sun May 31 15:34:52 2015 No.13578495

>>13578450
Yith is a monster type in Elona. They're based on Lovecraft's works which talk about immense creatures of power that is beyond mortal abilities to understand them. In Elona+ the Yith monster type became the sea monster race. At any rate, Yith creatures are powerful and tend to make your character go insane.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:37:20 2015 No.13578502 >>13578495 >In Elona+ the Yith monster type became the sea monster race. The fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous Sun May 31 15:40:36 2015 No.13578512

>>13578495
>In Elona Plus, added monsters that were initially Yith were removed and added to the Seamonster race.
I'm reading about them now.
I've never had trouble killing any of them in-game but I guess I'll need a lot of high-level monster balls for this.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:42:06 2015 No.13578520 >>13578502 This http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Yith and I can verify what they say because if you have access to South Tyris and go to the Deep Sea castle you'll see how in Elona+ they became the sea monster race.

Anonymous Sun May 31 15:45:57 2015 No.13578538

>>13578520
No you retard, they did not become the sea monster race. CERTAIN Yith NPCs were switched to the Seamonster race, because they made more sense as such. The Yith as a whole are not Seamonsters. The Deep Sea Castle is a place outside of time, it's eldritch horror as fuck. Which is what Yith are. Eldritch horrors.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:47:13 2015 No.13578540 File: 50 KB, 890x507, 1419282770613.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13578520 Well yes, because it looks like they gave it to the fish creatures. It just sounds like you're implying the entire race was replaced.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:47:30 2015 No.13578542 >>13578538 I want nyarlathotep to do horrible things to me with her tentacles

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:48:56 2015 No.13578550 >>13578540 Sorry about that then

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 15:52:46 2015 No.13578564 Is the fence in the thief guild a specific npc or is it anyone in the guild that can buy things?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 16:03:06 2015 No.13578606 I wish descent potions weren't so hard to find.

Anonymous Sun May 31 16:07:07 2015 No.13578631

>>13578606
It would break the game further when you consider the methods that's already been found. Well, leveling isn't too hard to do anymore so you don't really need to find them and bless them. Also don't need to delevel yourself as leveling is a good thing now.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 16:08:11 2015 No.13578639 >>13578631 I know I don't need to level down, but it makes me feel bad looking at my stats. I just hit 66 and still don't have anything at 200.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 16:09:32 2015 No.13578645 File: 588 KB, 1286x796, Datplane.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This was a rather bloody arena match. Level 700 <yerles combat plane> ain't no joke for a melee pet.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 16:09:33 2015 No.13578646 >>13578564 specific npc, I believe, like how lend the taker and the book writer are special shopkeepers

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 16:10:51 2015 No.13578654 >>13578646 I've looked around the whole guild several times, but there's no npc that will buy my item for more than the average merchant, I'm so confused.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 16:12:23 2015 No.13578666 >>13578639 Are all of them at least in the 100s? If that's the case you should be ok.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 16:13:54 2015 No.13578675 >>13578666 Most of them are low 100s. Outliers are strength, perception and magic. Strength is at 194, perception at 148, magic at 85.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 16:25:04 2015 No.13578750 Just got a living weapon pistol that I'm giving to my pet, what should I work on it?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 16:56:51 2015 No.13578883 File: 297 KB, 795x598, fence.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13578654 I went in my game and found him; try somewhere down here?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 17:00:32 2015 No.13578902 File: 328 KB, 799x697, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well that's one down.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 17:04:58 2015 No.13578928 >>13578883 I just checked, he's literally nowhere. I wonder if he died somehow? Would he respawn if he did? It's been quite a long time since I joined now.

Anonymous Sun May 31 17:06:48 2015 No.13578936

>>13578883
>>13578928
Oh I'm retarded, it's the npc that sells disguise kits and such, but...
Still gives the same price for stolen items to me, so technically doesn't really matter who I sell my stuff to, which is kind of the problem. Oh well, thanks anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 17:15:56 2015 No.13578974 What are the most useful special actions that I can put on a custom NPC? Thinking of insult and insane gaze, maybe mana recovery

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 17:18:49 2015 No.13578993 >>13578974 Speaking of which, is there a list of all the skills numbers?

Anonymous Sun May 31 17:23:34 2015 No.13579033

>>13578993
The japanese wiki apparently has them, but they're google translated: http://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://elona.wikiwiki.jp/%3Fcmd%3Dread%26page%3D%25A4%25AA%25A4%25DE%25A4%25B1%252F%25A5%25AB%25A5%25B9%25A5%25BF%25A5%25E0NPC

That list doesn't seem to be comprehensive either, as the numbers seem to keep going past 660 according to this: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&prev=search&sl=zh-CN&u=http://tieba.baidu.com/p/2404800178&sandbox=0&usg=ALkJrhhtO4pnhIrnCWXczDR7OYPnCXrNSQ

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 17:38:50 2015 No.13579110 >>13578645 Even the audience got murdered. What a match that must have been.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 17:57:43 2015 No.13579203 >>13579110 A truly great sporting event is one that you'd have loved to have seen and hated to have been at.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 18:39:28 2015 No.13579380 File: 275 KB, 796x597, lol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well, thanks for making this so much easier for me.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 18:44:18 2015 No.13579403 How do I lower my speed to 10 when it gets above the fetter of earth's speed penalty?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 18:50:57 2015 No.13579432 >>13579403 Snails and riding.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 18:52:16 2015 No.13579443 >>13579432 Thanks, I didn't think of that.

Anonymous Sun May 31 19:25:25 2015 No.13579558
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New player here, I have a few questions, I couldn't find any info on the wiki regarding this.

-What's the deal with the names of equipment?
For example, the difference between equipment such as <name> and {name}

-I am also wondering about the same, but with NPC and enemies' names.

-Can equipment be crafted?

-Do all NPC respawn if killed?

Anonymous Sun May 31 19:32:13 2015 No.13579578

>>13579558
>What's the deal with the names of equipment?
For example, the difference between equipment such as <name> and {name}
>I am also wondering about the same, but with NPC and enemies' names.
Literally nothing, its all random generated silliness.
>Can equipment be crafted?
There is some kind of basic crafting to be had but nothing spectacular.
>Do all NPC respawn if killed?
Some story quest NPCs won't respawn, theres a few ways to force a map to regenerate but most NPCs will respawn on their own. I don't really have a list handy of what does and doesn't.

Anonymous Sun May 31 19:53:51 2015 No.13579659

>>13579558
<name> is artifact equipment and {name} is godly equipment.
The biggest significance of this outside of godly items tending to have better stats is if you wanted to change the material type of an artifact to something better or worse you could use a scroll but for godly items you need specific material kits, which are much more rare.

Anonymous Sun May 31 19:56:10 2015 No.13579668

>>13579558
Ignore >>13579578, he's either retarded or lying.
<equipment> is magical gear. {equipment} is better magical gear.
<enemy> is either a chess-piece or an abnormally powerful enemy. <<enemy>> is an abnormally powerful chess-piece. {enemy} is an even more powerful enemy.
Equipment can be crafted. What you get is random, but you can spam it so hard you'll get great stuff. You can also add abilities to magical gear.
All non-story non-repeatable quest related NPCs respawn.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 19:57:18 2015 No.13579672 I thought you could buy potions of potential during the festival of jure but I can't find any of the vendors.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 20:12:55 2015 No.13579731 >>13579672 Why are you trying to get them there when you can have a magic vendor stock them for you for cheaper?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 20:14:14 2015 No.13579736 >>13579731 How much store rank do they have to be for that? I have never seen one. I only have 500kgp though and I'm not sure what to do with it.

Anonymous Sun May 31 20:19:44 2015 No.13579754
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>>13579736

Not sure exactly. As a rule though, I've gotten every magic vendor to 100, and I can at least find one somewhere around the continent every month, if not more. If you're lucky, they'll stock a normal and blessed potion.

Anonymous Sun May 31 20:20:22 2015 No.13579757

>>13579736
Mine were at 110 when they started stocking them if I recall.

If you're playing around with that much money first thing I'd recommend is getting a small castle, then hiring and investing in magic vendors with two instances of 50 investments.

You can also make the potions yourself with high enough Alchemy, Fishing and other gathering skills, or your pet can get the materials for you. Personally I both craft and buy them to maintain 400% potential.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 20:22:44 2015 No.13579763 >>13579757 I haven't seen any of those deeds. I guess I'll invest in both the magic and goods shop in palima to 100 and see where that takes me.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 20:27:34 2015 No.13579774 I like how the "Tactical Attack" AP reward for melee AI pets scarcely does anything without also paying for an AI change because they'll walk 100% of the time instead of ever Shadow Stepping.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 20:28:02 2015 No.13579779 >>13579763 Look at the Embassy a couple times and eventually they'll have one at either of the vendors near the ends of the map.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 20:30:09 2015 No.13579786 What are some good midgame feats? I feel like all the bonuses are rather small and insignificant now. I already have quartermaster.

Anonymous Sun May 31 20:50:07 2015 No.13579843

>>13579786
I personally like the stamina/runner feats since I like using special attacks and buffing myself. Naturally I also like vampiric ability as that can help you recover stamina. As a solo player Kokou is a really nice feat to have. The speed boost granted by that feat is nice to have if you don't usually play with pets.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 20:52:08 2015 No.13579853 >>13579843 I worship kumi so I have infinite stamina and use a mount. My mount is a lot less durable than I am and I lose about 2/3s of my speed if it dies.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 21:03:34 2015 No.13579914 >>13579853 I see, I would then look at feats that aid you in your weak areas. For instance ff you rolled a race that is lacking in the mana department and you're finding you like using spells might want to look into the feats that increase mana then.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 21:15:45 2015 No.13579967 >>13579779 900k for a small castle. Time to do some dungeons.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 21:22:04 2015 No.13580006 >>13579967 godspeed anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 21:42:35 2015 No.13580141 So is danger swimwear the best armor I can get? Thinking of copying it for one of my pets through little sisters. I already have 4 kumi statues and I spent my first reward on an apple.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 21:45:02 2015 No.13580151 >>13580141 >Thinking of copying it for one of my pets through little sisters. Won't it get changed due to the unique artifact clause, though?

Anonymous Sun May 31 21:47:40 2015 No.13580180

>>13580151
I forgot about that.
>Losing a precious item before you have had the chance to identify it will result in the item not being listed as a reward, potentially preventing you from ever obtaining it again.
I'm never going to get that twin blades amulet am I?
I shouldn't just let my pets clear rooms without me watching.

Anonymous Sun May 31 21:50:12 2015 No.13580201
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>>13571910
I sweep dungeons between DL 500-1200, and I only get to make about 1 per dungeon.

It's never a reliable source, especially when the spots are near-impossible to gather due to high level. Just hire magic shopkeepers in your home.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 21:50:50 2015 No.13580206 >>13580180 The artifact may be randomly re-generated though, can't it? As long as it's not somewhere permanent like Lesimas or on an adventurer it should show up again eventually, I think.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 21:51:10 2015 No.13580213 >>13580151 Doesn't it only get changed if it's in your inventory? I have two Crimson Plates in my storage house.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 21:54:19 2015 No.13580235 >>13580213 Apparently it checks your inventory and your pets inventories, so yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:01:22 2015 No.13580281 >>13580235 Ah, that kinda sucks. Still, you could equip one with the Danger Swimwear and use the War Suit, or do things the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:12:46 2015 No.13580339 Just broke into Act 3 and I'd really like the bow that naked chick has. I understand it's not really something you can get through conventional means though, so how would I go about acquiring it?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:20:27 2015 No.13580382 File: 258 KB, 591x389, rainbow.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13580339 are you talking about arasiel and the rainbow?

Anonymous Sun May 31 22:23:09 2015 No.13580392

>>13580382
Yeah. I'm about to evolve my black angel and I think she'd appreciate a less-thoroughly used bow.

Speaking of which, is there a means through which I can change her sprite back to the black angel one after I evolve her? That sprite's pretty damn indecent,

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:30:18 2015 No.13580421 >>13580339 astral light pen

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:31:48 2015 No.13580431 File: 310 KB, 802x698, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good spot for my castle? I've had the begger's shack all this time and this location is really close to both Luminest and all my other buildings around Palmia.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:32:11 2015 No.13580433 >>13580339 >>13580382 Is the rainbow even that good? I remember getting + element damage for all the elements on a living weapon I found in vanilla elona and being somewhat disappointed with the result.

Anonymous Sun May 31 22:33:27 2015 No.13580437
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>>13580392
1. Be level 125 or higher and have Magic Ink x25
2. Obtain an Astral Light Pen (wish for it or pray it drops from a seraph)
3. Get some love potions and toss them at Arasiel until she's at Friend
4. Give her friendship tokens until she's at soulmate
5. Use the pen.

basic process to recruit all the demigods and get their weapons

>Speaking of which, is there a means through which I can change her sprite back to the black angel
huh. I haven't played this game in a while, but it used to be that you could specify a sprite number and it would change it, but 'i'nteract -> shape change seems to bring up a menu that only allows custom sprites

>>13580433
nah, it's novelty tier. it's fun seeing all the ways an enemy can die though

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:37:05 2015 No.13580451 >>13580433 The status effects can be nice. That bow essentially deals random blinds, one turn stuns that can't be resisted, confusion, and random effects from chaos.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:37:18 2015 No.13580455 >>13580421 >>13580437 Nice, thanks. If it's novelty tier I might attempt to spend my time trying to get something else, like the catgirl's unique claw.

Anonymous Sun May 31 22:39:30 2015 No.13580463
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>>13580431
Its fine I guess, but if you use one town more than the other, I suggest just (re)building your entire estate near it, rather than in some halfway bumfuck nowhere spot

pic related was my midgame estate, though I stopped using Lumiest when I didn't need the mage guild anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:41:08 2015 No.13580467 >>13580463 It's not that far from either town really, but I guess I really only visit Lumiest when I need to buy more heal or speed tomes.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:46:12 2015 No.13580492 File: 463 KB, 645x483, Press [space] to lewd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So what enchantment option should I pick? Since it is being used by my little girl I was thinking either resist or damage but I figured I would ask here first.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 22:47:30 2015 No.13580505 >>13580467 You're actually in a spot where it snows very frequently, so that's going to add to your travel time. well, not that it matters much

Anonymous Sun May 31 22:56:22 2015 No.13580545

>>13580505
Ah, strike that. I just remembered that I had an ether disease that I kept on purpose for a long time that would increase the chance of rain when I reached my crops down in Lumiest.

If you stay on the path it only snows occasionally, I think.

Anonymous Sun May 31 23:11:43 2015 No.13580610

I traded the guy at the dock a couple socks but I got scrolls of faith instead of scrolls of growth.

Was this a recent change or something? I haven't done the quest related to him yet.

With that said, is there another way besides exchanging small medals that will let me get my growth scroll fix? Will my vendors start stocking it if I give them more cash?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:15:13 2015 No.13580627 >>13580492 If it was my little girl I'd be getting nether resist because she's lacking in the resists department. My healing rain is decent so I provide her healing. If your pets resists are good though I can see getting nether damage.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:16:21 2015 No.13580637 >>13580610 Yes he gives faiths now training costs at trainers were lowerest massively though to obscene levels early-mid game.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:17:59 2015 No.13580649 >>13580637 Oh, so that explains why that happened. Do training costs still cap out at 30 though? and I guess I can't really complain about these faith scrolls.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:19:31 2015 No.13580661 >>13580649 its either 10 or 15 now I guess? I am hovering around 30-45 skill levels and max is like... 3-4 per training so far (with most being 2).

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:22:41 2015 No.13580679 >>13580492 >>13580627 Sorry I read what you said wrong. I would get resists in general. If your pet already has a gear set that gives superb or better to all resists then get nether damage as I hear that absorbs life.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:28:33 2015 No.13580706 >>13580437 >>13580455 The "has all elements" bit is novelty tier, but it's a damn solid bow under all the flashy uselessness.

Anonymous Sun May 31 23:29:21 2015 No.13580712
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>>13580679

Thanks. My pet right now has almost nothing in resists since I pretty much just started this character.

As an aside, I am in an epic battle with a bard since they have the Stradivarius and I am pretty much running in a circle in Lumiest throwing panties at them praying to the gods they don't land a hit on me.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:34:28 2015 No.13580733 >>13580706 Pets dont suffer ether disease do they?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:35:52 2015 No.13580741 >>13580733 They do not. Feel free to load them down with all the ether in the world, they'll laugh it off.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:36:00 2015 No.13580742 >>13580733 Nope.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:42:09 2015 No.13580763 File: 52 KB, 808x730, ahighergodhasstoppedme.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I saved in the Meshera Plant's room, and now this happened. Was that a bad idea? Am I totally fucked?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:45:20 2015 No.13580775 >>13580763 Did you hit F12?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:47:49 2015 No.13580786 >>13580712 After a while I decided to just cut my losses and leave town. If I understand right that bard will still be there when I go back with my pet and something to throw at him.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:54:58 2015 No.13580812 >>13580775 nope, it just comes up automatically whenever I open my save file for this character.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 31 23:56:03 2015 No.13580814 >>13580775 Problem solved, not sure what the heck happened. Thanks for the moral support anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 1 00:01:28 2015 No.13580849 File: 238 KB, 796x598, woo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I finally understand the true power of chestnuts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 1 00:39:27 2015 No.13581066 >>13580849 How hilariously ironic. Do you have a really high throw skill or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 1 00:47:39 2015 No.13581108 >>13581066 Nah, my throwing is only at 39, which is pretty low compared to my other skills. Weirdly enough, I got the idea from throwing chestnuts at myself. Hemmorhages hurt a lot.

Anonymous Mon Jun 1 02:45:49 2015 No.13581566

>>13578936
You can sell items to any black market vendor to complete the thief guild quest. They pay normal shopkeeper prices for stolen goods. There are two or three in the guild itself or the one on the street by the slave trader, I invested in that one (enough that she could buy my cure corruption potions) so I don't waste gold investing in vendors I won't have access to once I switch to mage guild.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 1 05:42:39 2015 No.13582138 >>13572660 I stole 5 fruit trees per farm from the wilderness and when it grows fruits I just bash them right into the fertilizer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 1 08:03:27 2015 No.13582717 File: 304 KB, 1280x720, Haiyore! Nyaruko-san F NCOP[(001601)14-52-09].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13578542 My Nigger Man.

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