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Elona+ Anonymous Thu May 21 23:47:38 2015 No.13529570 [Reply] [Original]

Go to sleep on time, eat your herbs, and don't do capsule drag.

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>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 00:19:04 2015 No.13529647 >>/jp/13529525 Why are speed rings so desirable?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 00:19:27 2015 No.13529652 This isn't 2hu.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 00:24:02 2015 No.13529682 >>13529647 They can give up to +28 in speed. +28 in any stat is amazing, let alone speed which has a bigger impact than pretty well anything else.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 00:25:00 2015 No.13529692 >>13529647 They give you more speed which, if your overall speed is high enough, gives you more turns to do stuff against slower enemies.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 01:59:12 2015 No.13530034 >>13529647 I focus on high PV/DV gear with status immunities on them, but Speed rings are probably also really good is they're a good one. I usually just see crap like 15 and under.

Anonymous Fri May 22 02:47:43 2015 No.13530188

Alright got my first BBQ set.

Is there a way to reroll the Quality? Mine is a Manic BBQ set.

also what is a good material to shoot for raw cooking bonus? I am keeping this one in my house and will try and make my next one portable with Dawn Cloth.

The wiki says using change mat scrolls on furniture that already has a quality (Manic,Godly, etc) makes it turn to shit or something ambiguous.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 02:56:44 2015 No.13530228 200 hours later I finally have an altar in my home. Praise the gods. I put my home RIGHT next to vernis. Would it make more sense to move it to the crossroads west of Palmia or should I wait until South Tyris and just rebase there?

Anonymous Fri May 22 03:05:07 2015 No.13530271

Jumping off last thread's conversation, what's the wisest way to develop your spellcasting abilities? Just go cuhrazy with magic dart/magic ball and watch the damage ramp up?

Magic can be pretty opaque/too deep for many new players, which may be why they prefer melee/ranged to start.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 03:12:35 2015 No.13530299 >>13530271 Yeah, just spam your attack spell of choice. If stock is a consideration, only do so above a given potential threshold.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 03:13:36 2015 No.13530301 >>13530271 Pretty much just dive right in. Magic dart, heal minor wound, are what I started with and as my casting increased and I found different books I branched out from there.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 03:14:36 2015 No.13530305 >>13530301 and hero

Anonymous Fri May 22 03:27:51 2015 No.13530353

>>13530228
After doing a quest in South Tyris you'll get a house full of maids that you can use as a base in South Tyris. I'm not sure if you can or can't put up an additional house in South Tyris but the maid mansion is something to consider. As for house relocation I guess just move it somewhere you think is useful to have a house at. Also, it would be useful to have a house with lots of land surrounding it. You'll probably want your farms, store houses, and shops nearby but I guess this is all up to preference.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 03:35:59 2015 No.13530385 File: 1.11 MB, 1280x768, Un22222titled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It is done... should I kill Orphe for his sword/figure/card? or will it fuck me over later in the story?

Anonymous Fri May 22 03:40:46 2015 No.13530410

>>13530385
Grats anon.

As for killing Orphe it's up to you. Without spoiling anything you'll meet him again so you'll have another chance if you decide against it for the time being. Or, if you venture far enough in the void you can meet him there as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 03:42:54 2015 No.13530417 >>13530188 The only "quality" that matters for cooking is tied to the utensil itself, not what the utensil is made of. A lame candy barbecue will give the same bonus as a madam's favorite griffonscale barbecue.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 03:47:29 2015 No.13530431 >>13530385 Do it now, you lose your chance later. No consequences, aside from a karma hit. >>13530410 You do meet him again, but he's a different NPC at that point.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 03:52:39 2015 No.13530454 File: 453 KB, 802x602, sword.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13530431 Does the gear he drops different the first time you meet him? I met him a second time and I think the only thing of note that dropped from him was this sword.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 03:55:20 2015 No.13530466 File: 43 KB, 447x335, you lost me.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright this is silly... I've been looking for this for hours and can't seem to find it. Help me Obi wan Kenobi!

Anonymous Fri May 22 04:01:32 2015 No.13530493

>>13529647
Speed rings are desirable because they're a base ring type, much like seven league boots are a base boot type, which means that the same things that make your favorite randomly generated ring excellent could potentially find their way onto a speed ring, which would then be even better than excellent.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 04:03:03 2015 No.13530500 >>13530454 He has a different sword later.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 04:04:55 2015 No.13530508 >>13530500 Uh oh. Looks like I've missed his original sword then. Maybe I can get the original from him in the void...

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 04:07:57 2015 No.13530517 >>13530466 North-east-east of Noyel.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 04:08:25 2015 No.13530522 >>13530466 It's two steps west and one south from Noyel. Try harder next time kouhai and maybe I'll notice you.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 04:09:14 2015 No.13530529 does milk from ranched animals give stat gains?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 04:17:54 2015 No.13530566 >>13530517 >>13530522 Thanks guys. that was helpful.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 04:47:54 2015 No.13530690 Is it possible to git so gud that confusion won't interrupt your casting? I happen to shoot everything with chaos eye and sometimes casters cast trough confusion. It's rare but it can happen.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 05:22:43 2015 No.13530778 >kill my first big daddy with my dual wield character without taking hardly any damage at level 22 >fucker kills my increasingly worthless pet What should I do with little sisters?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 05:37:39 2015 No.13530807 >>13530778 I just collect credit, the scientist has never had anything I want to buy.

Anonymous Fri May 22 05:56:51 2015 No.13530851
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>>13530807
Well I went back to the scientist to get a ball so I could bring her back.
Do I want +20 luck or should I try to see if I can manage to put a 2.0 weapon in my offhand?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 06:09:17 2015 No.13530873 File: 175 KB, 1001x714, Clipboard02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My first God heart in 3 characters. This one dropped from an element dragon.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 06:13:06 2015 No.13530876 >>13530851 I only get gemstones and statues of Kumi. I can get happy apples, mana fruits and hero cheses from music tickets, and I tend to stipmine forest dungeons for 4 leaf clovers as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 06:18:07 2015 No.13530882 >>13530876 I went with the apple because I'm afraid of what would happen to my hit chance. What are gemstones? The wiki is really bad about how you search for things.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 06:23:38 2015 No.13530886 I think he is referring to the second god rewards that aren't consumed on use. things like ehektals coin gem, jure healing rain gem, and manis laser but I could be wrong.

Anonymous Fri May 22 06:25:10 2015 No.13530888

>>13530882
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Kumiromi%27s_gem_stone_of_rejuvenation
It's unclear whether he's referring specifically to this item ("gemstones of kumiromi and statues of kumiromi") or to any of the various gemstones available in-game ("statues of kumiromi, and gemstones")

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 06:32:23 2015 No.13530896 >>13530886 There's not much point in getting more than one of Yactatect's gem stone as you can only use it once per month, no matter how many you have.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 06:33:16 2015 No.13530898 >>13530888 I was referring to Kumi's gemstone. I can't get any regular gemstones for little sister anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 06:38:55 2015 No.13530905 >>13530898 You just have to own them already.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 06:48:08 2015 No.13530921 >>13530898 you can get duplicate kumi stones? do they share a timer or are you replacing one dropped on death or what?

Anonymous Fri May 22 06:59:23 2015 No.13530946

>>13530921
Indeed you can get Kumi gemstones, and they have all separate timer. Currently I have 4 statues and 3 gemstones, workin on getting more!
Also, start working on performance so you can get these and just buy your future happy apples from here. http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Ticket

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 07:30:52 2015 No.13530990 >>13530851 Also where are the magic stones? I cleared the crypt of the damned and the ancient castle but I haven't found any after killing the bosses. Tower of Flame is terrifying.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 07:38:28 2015 No.13531010 >>13530990 Those are only mentioned in your journal. Press j, they are under "quest Item"

Anonymous Fri May 22 07:55:27 2015 No.13531035

>>13530271
Here's my spell grinding method:

Step 1) Overload cart to 10 speed
Step 2) walk around on property tiles till sleepy
Step 3) Check shops for stockpile items, use Kumi statues, yacajews gem, etc
Step 4) Rest till hungry
Step 5) Eat herbed herb for bloated, this is important
Step 6) Cast Divine wisdom
Step 7) Place corner of wallet or other item that works on spell's hotkey, make sure it stays
Step 8) Read berserk
Step 9) Once mana bar is empty sleep
Repeat

Good way of getting your buffs and magic storm up. If you're going to be overcarting anyway it's the most efficient use of your time.

>>13530778
Turn them in, don't receive reward. Once you get to south tyris do the quest to get the kumi statue. Once you have it redeem all your rewards for kumi statues and swim in herbs. Your stats will skyrocket.

>>13530946
Alternatively work on your summon spirit spell and get alchemic rain.

Make sure to have lots of stocks of resurrection to. The karma hit is real.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 08:05:33 2015 No.13531052 File: 370 KB, 1024x768, miromi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I'm gonna make it... Barrier is truly amazing.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 08:17:43 2015 No.13531079 >>13531052 go go go!

Anonymous Fri May 22 08:18:00 2015 No.13531082
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Welp. A bittersweet victory. I have emptied 26 rods of mana, lost my Fron and two four-handed bells of termination. Shadowstepping around a sandbagged monster makes the aura of retention irrelevant.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 08:18:37 2015 No.13531085 >>13531052 Does he have the same teleport prevention Inner Ehekatl does? I realized all inner gods may have the aura. Good luck anon. I believe in you.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 08:20:34 2015 No.13531087 >>13531082 Did you get the sickle?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 08:22:21 2015 No.13531090 File: 573 KB, 1024x768, Beast Sickle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13531085 Yes. >>13531087 Yup.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 08:30:29 2015 No.13531109 File: 10 KB, 847x28, kumi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yummy!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 08:30:54 2015 No.13531112 File: 11 KB, 140x230, Fishystick.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13531090 Congrats, Anonymous! Here. For your troubles.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 08:32:19 2015 No.13531116 >Going through morgue Arrow Serpent Byakudan "FUCK" 517/10/10 Was squashed by a scalework cheap table in Your Home.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 09:19:24 2015 No.13531242 Is there an easy way to find certain monsters? I want to get a twin edge.

Anonymous Fri May 22 09:59:36 2015 No.13531353
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Buildup Opatos is nothing compared to Insane Kumiromi. Kumi uses Shadow Step to oneshot you wherever you are, Opatos just draws you close and stands there like a rock.
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck is TyousindouKen Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From Opatos Like Nigga Use Your Legs Haha
He has irreparably damaged 4 farm tiles though.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 10:13:20 2015 No.13531393 >>13531242 Only if you would look for monsters that have a "themed" dunbgeon like the minotaur cave, tower of fire, pyramid, etc. Asuras have no such place as far as I know.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 10:17:03 2015 No.13531406 >>13530385 Kill him It has no consequences and you will permanently lose quite a good unique sword if you don't

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 10:28:44 2015 No.13531446 does choosing to lie on your back display your death in the log?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 10:33:51 2015 No.13531467 How much should I be worried about potential already being bad at level 10? I don't want my stats to be too low for my level.

Anonymous Fri May 22 10:46:09 2015 No.13531515

>>13531467
Level is a poor indicator of strength. Stats and skills are more important.

As for potential, that's not good but there's not significantly much you can do about it at this stage. The best advice I can give is that you need to raise money for a castle then get three or four magic stores, then invest in them so they sell potions of potential.

You can make the potions yourself too, if you want, but I have more potions from buying them from my vendors and the one in palmia than I do from scrounging up resources in dungeons. Bless them before you use them.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 11:22:11 2015 No.13531666 File: 504 KB, 811x634, you are the godslayer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13531353 You've inspired me anon. I can't let you show me up either. Let us slay gods together!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 11:24:57 2015 No.13531684 File: 559 KB, 811x634, Im rock hard right now.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13531666

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 11:26:04 2015 No.13531693 >>13531515 Guess I'll need more money then, I remember seeing those potions being extremely expensive at the Noyel festival, even though those prices are marked up by a lot I'm still expecting them to be around 300,000 gold or more.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 11:32:09 2015 No.13531716 >>13531693 Rejoice, they're only 25,000 a piece. At 100 negociation, of course.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 11:40:28 2015 No.13531765 >>13531393 Well I lured one to the entrance of a dungeon. Time for ultimate savescumming.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 11:42:53 2015 No.13531775 >>13531716 I thought that your potential in stats just naturally went up or down depending on how close you were to leveling the stat?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 11:46:11 2015 No.13531792 >>13531775 Nah, it goes down whe you level a stat. And goes up when you sleep. Look there for an explanation of how to into potential. elona.wikia.com/wiki/Potential

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 11:48:52 2015 No.13531801 >>13531716 Well, that's gonna be a long way away. I've only put the potential from the Guild into strength so far.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 11:58:37 2015 No.13531846 File: 67 KB, 481x251, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I get rid of this? What's a good animu to watch while autistically savescumming for items.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 12:04:47 2015 No.13531869 >>13531684 Good job anon! >>13531846 Options - Message & log - Disclaimer in title gdgd Fairies

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 12:11:55 2015 No.13531893 >>13531869 Thanks. Also can I train dual wield skill with a claw in my third hand? What if I am using a medium weapon in my offhand? The wiki is really vague about restrictions.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 12:29:11 2015 No.13531978 Anyone having problem with the music ? I've never heard music before and even after installing the Wild Arms pack I never music.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 12:37:17 2015 No.13532015 >>13531515 I just used up all my potions of potential, so I talked to my only pet, took all the mats he had with him and brewed up 50 more potions. I can't get this many from just magic stores.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 12:45:30 2015 No.13532043 >>13531353 Which ones have you taken out so far? I'm going to hit Itz next for the buster book, plus I can get him in a month with no wish. >>13532015 Sometimes I think I should get my fishing up. I have hundreds of saps but no angel tears.

Anonymous Fri May 22 12:51:19 2015 No.13532060

>>13532043
Are you playing solo? Then yes.

If you have any pets with you just gene eng him fishing (and detection, mining, etc would also help). It works like pickpocket, just with materials and you need to take them from time to time by talking with the pet.

Sometimes I think solo players are screwed because of the sheer quantity of mats a pet can provide you with and the ability to do ensembles and syncro hearts...

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 12:56:50 2015 No.13532077 Just had my second wish come up and I'm unsure what I should wish for. I have all the skills I could want and already have a pair of seven-league boots.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:03:10 2015 No.13532102 >>13532077 Happy bed, easily

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:04:02 2015 No.13532104 >>13532102 Already got one from a cupid,

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:07:31 2015 No.13532122 >>13532104 How lucky. What level are you? Miromi might be a good wish for feats, that's usually what I do. Alternatively you could get an astral light pen for future use.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:13:08 2015 No.13532142 >>13532122 22, so that'd be two new feats. I'll probably do the Astral Light Pen and save it for later... though I'm not sure who I'd eventually use it on. Thanks though.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:15:21 2015 No.13532155 >>13532142 Yacatect for an amazing shopkeeper, if you're a spell user you can get the vice staff. If you can kill a god you can get the inner god weapon without killing the inner god. I feel like there are better wishes though.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:22:37 2015 No.13532186 >>13532043 Only Kumi and Opatos, they have been freeloading around since forever. I'm worshipping Lulwy aiming for the Tempest Collar, then I'll go for the sweet sweet Frisia's Tail.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:27:18 2015 No.13532204 How significant are the huge -hit bonus values on inner god weapons? Does it mean that if you try attacking an enemy with them directly, you'll never hit anything?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:35:54 2015 No.13532219 >830 luck >lose 15 times in a row trying to get potions of cure corruption Clearly I need more luck.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:37:48 2015 No.13532227 >>13532077 I kind of regret wishing for the boots. I like my hooves more.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 13:40:13 2015 No.13532241 >>13532204 You could always just crit.

Anonymous Fri May 22 14:00:07 2015 No.13532328

>>13531801
A cheaper way to keep potential up (obviously less effective at first) in the earlygame, is to have a blessed happy bed and sleep in time everyday (before midnight), and have pets at fellow relationship with cooking, so they will make you breakfast and raise your potentials.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 14:01:59 2015 No.13532335 >>13532219 casino nerf too strong

Anonymous Fri May 22 14:10:10 2015 No.13532359

Alright, i'm scratching my head about this.
Normally I gain spell stock from stacks of blessed scrolls of wonder, but recently I've been training memorization and literacy since I joined the mages guild.

For some reason, I'm not gaining spell stocks at all when reading books. My literacy is 52, memorization is 31. I read through 10~ holy rain books without failing, and my spell stocks remained the same. Other books seem to be doing about the same too.

Did I fuck something up or can you only re-learn spells from books once you deplete the stock? Can I not learn spells if the potential of them is at 400? Do I need a higher memorization stat before I see any progress at all?

I looked over the spell stock page, and cant figure out why I'd get 0 spell stock gained from 10 books.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 14:23:36 2015 No.13532412 File: 703 KB, 845x609, ss (2015-05-22 at 02.19.45).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13532359 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 14:31:31 2015 No.13532447 >>13532412 wiki has holy rain and healing rain as separate books, are those two the same or

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 14:37:10 2015 No.13532478 >>13532447 HOLY FUCK I'M AN IDIOT

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 14:37:33 2015 No.13532480 >>13532359 >>13532412 Pretty sure that's holy veil or light or something of that nature. Yeah some of the books have grotesquely WRONG names.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 14:38:04 2015 No.13532482 File: 82 KB, 400x236, 1417820027107.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13532478

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 14:40:01 2015 No.13532490 File: 23 KB, 671x40, ss (2015-05-22 at 02.39.24).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh my god

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 15:00:34 2015 No.13532566 >>13532482 How does it feel being number 2 at the voting box Suika Ibuki? Your long reign has come to an end!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 15:06:35 2015 No.13532586 >>13531693 As might be expected of a souvenir kind of stand, the stores during the festivals are at ripoff prices, mostly.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 15:08:17 2015 No.13532592 >>13532566 She's far from my favorite, but I think she's totes cute. I also never vote because I forget all the time !

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 15:16:22 2015 No.13532617 >>13532592 is voting working again?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 15:25:41 2015 No.13532655 >>13532617 Not sure if it's working or not but I do see new names on the voting lists and new names on the list that displays who is getting the most votes and some names rising and falling.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 16:07:13 2015 No.13532830 >>13532204 By the time you can kill an inner god, if you're a weapon user, you don't give a shit about a measly -460 to hit.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 16:54:43 2015 No.13533110 Does anyone have the info on how dominate works? I want to know what would give me a better chance of dominating my level 800 spirits, 400 magic device or trying to level my dominate spell (currently 150).

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 17:47:39 2015 No.13533393 >>13533110 I could only guess. But knowing how easy it is to reproduce the spell once successfully read a book I'd say using the rod would be more easier. Don't bet on it though, it's just how a sadist game developer's mind would work.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 17:52:26 2015 No.13533416 >>13532655 That can be easily tested. Pick a name. Any name. Preferably one that's not on the top 10 list but not the very last either. Let's see if we can rig this by voting on him and only him... or her... it..

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 17:53:09 2015 No.13533422 Remember to vote for Suika!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 18:00:03 2015 No.13533456 Making a gene. What should I roll this time? I heard unarmed scaled incredibly high later but spells are just 2strong.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 18:17:46 2015 No.13533532 >>13533416 I voted and saw someone's vote count change. I think it's functional again!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 18:25:32 2015 No.13533562 >>13533416 Maybe let's try and bump up "recurrent hope arcuied"? Currently has 9 votes.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:09:00 2015 No.13533718 File: 91 KB, 400x400, 57237343.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13533456 step up senpai

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:10:05 2015 No.13533723 Be honest /jp/ do you save scum out of deaths and potential loss from wells?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:11:23 2015 No.13533728 >>13533723 I only save scummed once ever and it was because I dropped my fork on my keyboard and it made me kill myself with mana burst. It was pretty funny actually.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:11:43 2015 No.13533732 >>13533723 yes because I don't give a shit and no, that's what my pets are for.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:12:44 2015 No.13533741 >>13533456 Ever had a magic character? If yes and they got far, go unarmed. If you've already become the god slayer then go for a gimmick character, like magic device or something. Get creative.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:19:23 2015 No.13533780 Damn just got to South Tyris and see that it is very mcuh a work in progress. What the hell should I be doing here at level level 49 with shit attrib? (89 - 110)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:33:35 2015 No.13533863 File: 454 KB, 1280x768, Im feeling lucky.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's time

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:35:26 2015 No.13533876 File: 586 KB, 1280x768, even timeyer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] His first form took a few more hits than ehekatl. Mildly worrisome.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:40:12 2015 No.13533895 >>13533723 Yes when i die from overcasting during training spells, no otherwise. I don't drink normal wells.

Anonymous Fri May 22 19:50:34 2015 No.13533943
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Oh god he's mad. He's spamming mana burst. His space retention is up soon so I can teleport out of this but contingency activated on the first mana burst, so it'll one shot me. He's almost dead though, almost.

Anonymous Fri May 22 19:53:42 2015 No.13533958
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Alright, two down!
Decided I didn't want him getting close to me with that mana burst so I kept him off screen and spammed meteor. It was risky as my mana was dropping fast from barrier, but it worked.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:56:50 2015 No.13533974 >>13533958 Grats anon. Btw what level is your magic storm spell?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 19:58:12 2015 No.13533982 File: 764 KB, 1280x768, fourty thousand extra mana.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh yes. Who should I do next? Anyone but Mani, he's last. I also don't know if I can take Lulwy yet. >>13533974 Thank you. It's at 654.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 20:02:50 2015 No.13534004 >>13533982 Is the book a melee or ranged weapon? Also, I cast my vote for Yacatect.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 20:04:51 2015 No.13534014 >>13534004 Melee I believe. I was putting Frisia's tail in my ranged slot to avoid accidentally walking into a putit and causing the apocalypse, but now it's unavoidable. Welp.

Anonymous Fri May 22 20:15:25 2015 No.13534055

>>13534004
Just checked out hyper Yacatect. She might be a bit of a challenge. See, I remember when God inside Ehekatl hit me with her melee weapon when I first fought her, it wasn't pretty. Yacatect has a ranged attack, the reason I'm also scared of Lulwy. Not only that but her coin invokes mist of silence. I can just rod of holy light it but it's still worrisome.

Still, I'll give her a try next. I can also use that opportunity to turn her into my shop keeper.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 20:19:54 2015 No.13534073 >>13534055 How about Jure or Kumi then?

Anonymous Fri May 22 20:22:09 2015 No.13534079

>>13534073
Nah I'll give Yacatect a try. She'll be tough though. She even has attribution shield, contingency, and speed on her unique skill.

Jure is going to be weird. I'm worried I won't be able to keep up with her healing and I'll just need to grind my meteor level even more. Fury effects meteor right? How can I get myself fury?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 20:30:43 2015 No.13534106 Why can't I return to my North Tyris home. I hate this. I can hear the potential potions inventory cycling from a continent away.

Anonymous Fri May 22 20:39:48 2015 No.13534140

>>13534106
Where are you at that you cannot return back to North Tyris? If you're in South Tyris all you have to do is cast a return spell/read a return scroll or walk to the South Tyris North Border and hitch a caravan ride to take you to North Tyris.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 20:50:35 2015 No.13534184 >>13534079 The ability Rampage works like fury. You should already have it.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 20:51:31 2015 No.13534189 >>13534140 Just too lazy to return to border, carvan, return to home. Yes I am that lazy in a grindy game with 220 hours played.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 20:59:29 2015 No.13534213 >>13534184 Ah ok, thanks anon. I always thought it was just an ability called "fuy", or maybe weapon invokes. Frankly I was too embarrassed to ask.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 21:01:00 2015 No.13534226 >>13534189 How dare you be lazy in a grindy game

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 21:07:38 2015 No.13534263 I have been giving mage guild books forever and the guild leader still won't give me the damn guild quest. How does one check guild rank?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 21:09:47 2015 No.13534272 >>13534263 Same as all others, in the journal. There's just your rank though, not even a "guild" somewhere. Like for example just "thug" or "associate".

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 21:11:53 2015 No.13534285 >>13534272 Journeyman Rank.29? fuck my ass... level 5 huh? is it a linear progression from 29->28 per completed book point quota or does it vary from like 29->13?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 21:18:41 2015 No.13534312 Is the best way to train luck simply eating something with "maintains luck" for the bonus then eating raw +luck attrib gear? Is there a way to see current luck?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 21:48:13 2015 No.13534449 >>13534312 You can turn in stray cats to the dog cop, you can also mine forests for 4 leaf clovers. You might also be able to get a rabbit ranch and farm their tails, but I don't know if it works that way.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 23:05:46 2015 No.13534755 File: 568 KB, 1280x768, I even checked the spelling.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am upset

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 23:27:29 2015 No.13534851 >>13534755 I would of made the same mistake too. Seems to wish for him you just type in opatos. Not his full name with title.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 22 23:37:49 2015 No.13534888 File: 1.08 MB, 848x602, Are You Discontent.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13534755 That means I must post this centipede face meme at you.

Anonymous Fri May 22 23:38:24 2015 No.13534892

>>13534851
This is one of the few times I would have save scummed but it saves right after. I guess I'll just grit my teeth and bare it.

I guess I'm glad I don't have to fight him in Noyel during the festival anyway. I'm not sure how but I feel it would put me at a disadvantage.

>>13534888
thx bby

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 00:09:59 2015 No.13535037 File: 775 KB, 960x716, 1422576335416.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did you guys relocate Your Home to South Tyris once you beat the main quest? or do you keep it in the north?

Anonymous Sat May 23 00:11:03 2015 No.13535042

>>13533110
I posted the spell formula in the last thread, I think it was. Maybe it's two threads back now.

The formula itself should be the same for magic device, but I don't know how the "power" is calculated for rods. I might look it up sometime, we'll see.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 00:29:04 2015 No.13535132 Does blessing chests before opening increase contents?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 00:37:23 2015 No.13535169 >>13535037 Lumiest5ever, yo.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 00:50:10 2015 No.13535228 >>13535169 what's so great about an out of the way shithole?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 00:52:25 2015 No.13535238 >>13535037 I've kept my house in North Tyris. The maid mansion in South Tyris is fine as a home away from home and the free picnic baskets the head maid gives is always nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 00:55:22 2015 No.13535253 >>13535238 I hear it is not actually a home? Can you use book shelves and get trainer visits? what about magic shop/bartender NPCs?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 01:05:28 2015 No.13535299 >>13535253 Nope to trainer visits. Don't know about bookshelves but I have stored my stuff at the maid mansion.

Anonymous Sat May 23 01:15:16 2015 No.13535350

>>13535253
No magic vendor shops but some of the maids can identify your stuff and call back your allies. You can customize the place, have a salary box, and a freezer as well. So yeah pretty much a home away from home to rest up, get something to eat, and maybe store and pick up some things.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 02:32:31 2015 No.13535612 >>13533532 As a mater of fact it does count your vote. What I'm curious about is that how come that the top 10 are always the same, and it's been like that for years. Submitting your alias is what doesn't seem to work. >>13533562 sure. Lets do it.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 02:46:06 2015 No.13535655 >>13534312 Happy apples cost 50k music tickets. Work on your performer, a pet's performer and summon spirits!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 03:02:59 2015 No.13535719 >>13535613 I love Elona because of crazy stuff like this.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 03:10:54 2015 No.13535744 >>13535613 She can't say she doesn't even give a shit... Wonder if there's a Reuken fanart about this.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 03:12:20 2015 No.13535753 >>13535228 >two magic vendors >spellbooks >right by the beautiful sea >full of interesting people to kill >statues of lulwy to spy on everywhere Filthy mainlanders, all of you.

Anonymous Sat May 23 03:26:36 2015 No.13535797

>>13535228
How is Lumiest a shithole? It's the second richest city on North Tyris and is ranked number 1 in the arts. If Lumiest is a shithole I'd hate to see what you think of Derphy. Unless, you're secretly a Derphy resident that is just jelly of folks living in Lumiest!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 03:37:43 2015 No.13535825 >>13535797 I'd like to see what Derphy residents think of themselves and their neighbors.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 04:02:01 2015 No.13535887 Should I drink out of every well I see or no?

Anonymous Sat May 23 04:08:51 2015 No.13535910

>>13535887
No, there's always a risk the well will mutate you, summon monsters, get you pregnant with an alien, and god knows what. There are some good things that can come out of drinking from a normal well such as good mutations, stat increases, wishes, etc but take into consideration the risks noted earlier. If you want, you can let your pet drink from normal wells so that stuff will affect them instead and maybe they'll draw a wish for you to use.

I wouldn't drink from normal wells but the well in Noyel by the church is a good well to drink from. Most of the time the well there will give you good stuff. Just don't ever try to refill it with potions and junk. Let it refill naturally by waiting a year or so.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 04:12:12 2015 No.13535923 >>13535797 How do you live in Lumiest. I could only buy property outside the city... Unless you took refuge in the sewers. In that case it IS a shithole. Literally.

Anonymous Sat May 23 04:14:33 2015 No.13535931

>>13535887
Don't drink from wells unless you want to get pregnant with an alien that will burst through your chest and then infect everyone in the city. The alien infestation might be too hard for you to combat leading to a town you can't visit anymore until much later.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 04:19:33 2015 No.13535957 >>13535923 Never said I lived in Lumiest. I've visited it though. Great city, unlike Derphy which is a den of prostitutes, alcoholics, cheats, and other filth that have been made outcasts by more civilized cities.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 05:32:09 2015 No.13536172 File: 178 KB, 840x517, Clipboard02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13532060 I sure love my pet's material gathering ability.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 05:36:50 2015 No.13536183 I have a problem with werewolf attacks in Lumiest. There's an attack every damn night and there's two werewolf detectives hanging around, but none of the civilians can be accused of being a werewolf.

Anonymous Sat May 23 06:10:05 2015 No.13536251

>>13536183
I don't know, we all have the same thing happening to us with no chance to resolve the problem.
I once found a werewolf in Vernis, accused her, the towns people massacred her, but the midnight werewolf attacks keep continuing.
It's either a way to clear stuff out of NPCs inventory or it's still an unfinished or just untranslated quest.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 06:17:05 2015 No.13536276 >>13536251 Do you think resetting the problem town might fix it?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 06:21:19 2015 No.13536286 >>13536276 Reseting it will only restart it. Just accept it. You will learn to disregard it most of the times.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 07:14:19 2015 No.13536406 >>13536286 In fact, he should summon gods there. Hilarity will certainly ensue. Unless they can't be targeted by the event.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 07:20:47 2015 No.13536418 >>13536406 That's most likely the case. Just like vendors or trainers or the Queen of Palmia.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 07:26:13 2015 No.13536426 Guys, new to Elona, is there any ways to make the text bigger? My eyes hurt after some fifteen minutes And I just broke all the lockpicks trying to open the very first chest. Surely, I can buy lockpicks from somewhere, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 07:28:09 2015 No.13536431 >>13536426 General stores sell lockpicks occasionally. The chest from the tutorial actually has a considerable lockpicking difficulty to it. Leave it alone for the time being.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 07:48:10 2015 No.13536475 File: 94 KB, 781x583, Clipboard02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So defeating Meshera α gives the same Win screen? Booo!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 08:13:43 2015 No.13536520 I wonder if someone tainted my Noyel Well, because I haven't had a single good thing come from it, and I haven't even mixed anything into it. At least I got lucky enough to find a Rod of Wishing near the start of the game.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 08:22:48 2015 No.13536537 >>13531082 Now kill 3 inner gods simulataneously

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 08:25:15 2015 No.13536539 >heard one of the people in Port Kapul say 'seafood is extremely valuable further inland' >buy around 8 lots of cargo to try it out >60% profit this is the part where I earn $$$

Anonymous Sat May 23 09:30:42 2015 No.13536655

I'd like to share my autistic research results about Luck on wizard mode. I haven't tested blackjack since I'll have to tally to get reliable results which is plain irritating and I'm too lazy to test Treasure maps and Artifact seeds

1. 2000 luck and 8000 luck literally doesn't have a difference in terms of item sales at the blackmarket and while I'm at it I also tested if there's a difference between a level 300 and a level 2000 blackmarket in 2 years straight and saw none. There would still be times when godlies won't even appear in a single shop even if you're at 10000 luck. If you're grinding happy apples, it would be best to stop at 2000 luck (or if you're autistic enough, stop at 3000) and just put all your tickets/little sisters etc. on getting hero cheeses, magic fruit etc.

Most that you can get would be 5 (worthless) Godlies in a single shop

2. I also tested gachas between 2000 and 8000 luck. They're inefficient I know since it's a little hard to get 500 yen coins but I have to test it for science. As usual they have no difference; (worthless) godlies appear while at times they don't. A failed feature

3. Luck doesn't affect magic shops. Thought I could see a book of wishing/potentials/flying scrolls/potion of descent every 2 days in a single magic shop but no. They're still really rare

4. Drops aren't affected by luck. I thought I'll see tons of Secret experience of Kumiromi/potentials/descent etc. but I didn't. Haven't tested on rabbits though if they would drop a lot of rabbit tails for more luck but they're probably the same; the devs aren't dumb enough

Anonymous Sat May 23 10:11:51 2015 No.13536728

>>13536655
>1. 2000 luck and 8000 luck literally doesn't have a difference in terms of item sales at the blackmarket

Luck for equipment generation caps at 5000. Easily verifiable within the code.

But Luck in general affects significantly less than people attribute to it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 10:26:43 2015 No.13536751 >>13536655 How about artifact seeds and treasure maps? Also when does luck matter on bejeweled chests? When they get generated, or when you open them?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 10:28:21 2015 No.13536753 >>13536539 Christmas trees sell well in kapul, fish sells well in noyel. Have fun

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 10:29:56 2015 No.13536755 >>13536426 Check the config.txt I'd recommend changing your font too, meiryo ui looks pretty good.

Anonymous Sat May 23 11:36:37 2015 No.13536880

>>13535910
The monsters are generally the only actual threat, as i've had a cockatrice twice my level pop up once.

Mutations can be prevented by a fairy hat, and stat decreases can be prevented by most equipment. Same with alien infestations, just chug a bottle of dye or poison and you'll vomit it right out. Or just find an equipment that prevents pregnancies. Its all pretty early game equipment too.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 12:04:07 2015 No.13536934 >>13536755 Not that guy but I've been wondering how to do that for a while, it looks great. Also what is msg_box exactly?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 12:05:27 2015 No.13536936 Anyone managed to make the music work ? I never had any music while playing.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 12:05:53 2015 No.13536937 >>13536934 >msg_box I'm not sure, I only messed with the text and font size and whatnot.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 12:06:53 2015 No.13536939 >>13536936 it's midi, so you need to be able to play it. It's in the settings, otherwise there's some stuff you can do in the config.txt

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 12:19:25 2015 No.13536956 >>13536939 The thing is I installed one of the music packs in the pastebin and it doesn't seem to work, I did drop them at the right place I replaced the musiclist.txt and yet it doesn't work at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 12:35:36 2015 No.13536977 File: 126 KB, 361x280, thanks obama.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 12:37:18 2015 No.13536979 File: 15 KB, 791x56, Clipboard02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I sometimes stop and ponder. Am I doing the right thing?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 12:40:43 2015 No.13536985 >>13536977 You kiddin? That gun is a pretty nice gun to train marksman with. It even comes with it's own healer to keep you alive while you do no damage.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 12:42:31 2015 No.13536987 >>13536985 Maybe he's talking about {the moron} bit.

Anonymous Sat May 23 12:44:13 2015 No.13536989
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>>13536985
I've never really gotten to the point where I need to cripple myself to train something, I'm mostly an early-mid game player, sadly! counting south tyris as lategame of course. I usually get bored by then.
>>13536937
On the flipside, changing font it makes certain things look like this. How does the size setting work? if I wanted to make it a little smaller, should I set it to 0 or -1?

Anonymous Sat May 23 13:02:08 2015 No.13537039

>>13536987
No that's actually right on spot.
I only recently thought about negative effects would be good, thanks to the 4rth reward from your god.

>>13536989
I'm a magicfag In the late game I'm planing on cheesing it up by grinding summon spirits, Meteor and magic ball to achieve godly levels and zounds of AP per cast.
The fact that I will have enough Skillpoints to spend on skills made me actually sell some of my "future training" gear.
I could imagine that pistol on a ranged pet of yours. Possibly some bell.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 13:08:43 2015 No.13537065 If I change a pet's class to archer will she gain the hit bonus that comes with the job? Somehow I feel warmage is wasted on a White young lady who's set to keep her range and throw panties and potions.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 13:13:51 2015 No.13537078 >>13537039 fight me irl anon

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 13:17:07 2015 No.13537095 >>13537078 no

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 13:40:55 2015 No.13537160 Are there level requirements on precious items? I've killed this valruna like 300 times.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 14:03:42 2015 No.13537218 >>13537160 nope. that's just RNG doing it's thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 14:34:49 2015 No.13537322 I kinda feel bad that I have this 170% potential in Longswords, but haven't found a decent one so far.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 14:57:10 2015 No.13537407 >>13537322 Diablo?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 15:02:42 2015 No.13537423 File: 34 KB, 289x77, pamela's cooking.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cute ghosts can totally cook! But I still have a long way to go.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 15:06:08 2015 No.13537433 >>13537407 I do have that, but I do less damage than I do with my axe. My Axe level isn't much ahead of my Longsword either, it's only at 19.

Anonymous Sat May 23 15:11:09 2015 No.13537442

>>13537423
Good job Pamela Ibis! If a cute ghost can cook surely my cute fairy can cook. Sadly she struggles to stay in the air with the kitchen pans and pots she carries. It's scary seeing her cut vegetables with a knife that is the size of her. She seems so determined to cook so I don't have the heart to tell her to stop.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 15:17:04 2015 No.13537455 File: 328 KB, 800x800, cute pamela.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13537442 You can it anon! I believe in you

Anonymous Sat May 23 15:22:00 2015 No.13537468

>>13537433
unless you have the rankis, then the timestop on diablo should help a lot more than the base damage. two handing vs dual wielding vs sword/shield also come into play with damage, as well.

If you're two handing both, the axe is going to do a lot more damage because of the weight of it factoring into the damage equation. The sword would be better for dual wield, since lighter weapons get the bonus. As for sword/board, that's pretty neutral either way.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 15:23:19 2015 No.13537473 >>13537455 So Pamela decided to join the fighter's guild to get some discounts on refining prices. It was incredibly awkward when the watchman told her to find and slay 5 ghosts. Hopefully he didn't notice.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 15:27:03 2015 No.13537481 >>13537468 It's probably Two-Hand, but I'm still surprised at the damage difference. It's something like 100 damage difference a hit, with critical hits doing 300 more.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 15:39:45 2015 No.13537524 >>13537468 Two handing takes into account item weight? Hmm, I think I might have a use for these cursed flying scrolls.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 15:51:11 2015 No.13537553 >>13537524 You get less of a bonus when your weapon weighs less than 4.0s if 2handing, also you don't get the additional hit bonus.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 16:02:37 2015 No.13537589 E+1.45 is out, and I've posted the translated changelog to the wiki. I'll also put up the detailed notes sometime tomorrow. It's time for me to go to sleep. http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:16167

Anonymous Sat May 23 16:17:09 2015 No.13537636
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Frisia's tail, day 6, Buster Book day 2:
I've stopped nearly starving to death in dungeons. I still need to devote hundreds of skill points to keep the potential up. Forced to farm AP even more now. Absorb magic is incredibly useful between dungeon floors now.

I wonder if I'll hit 2000

>>13537589
Oh dang, thanks for posting that. I guess I'll update from 1.43 this time. Seems like they added some neat stuff. If there's anything you want me to try testing out I'd be happy to. Sleep well anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 16:18:40 2015 No.13537640 >>13537589 I JUST updated from 1.36 holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 16:20:59 2015 No.13537645 >>13537640 that's so elona with more versions than players

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 16:41:53 2015 No.13537709 So to update I just drag a copy of my old save into the 1.45's save folder?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 16:43:33 2015 No.13537714 >>13537709 Make sure you saved out on the world map. Then drag your old save into the 1.45 save folder.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 16:43:56 2015 No.13537717 >>13537714 What happens if I was in my home?

Anonymous Sat May 23 16:48:12 2015 No.13537741

>>13537717
Well things may be alright still if you don't save on the world map before updating but Ano did say on his blog that to be safe save on the world map. In prior versions not saving on the world map lead to problems with updating from not being able to load the save to bugs.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 16:49:25 2015 No.13537750 >>13537741 Ah shit, alright I'll copy my save and copy it over again just in case. Thanks for the heads up.

Anonymous Sat May 23 17:56:42 2015 No.13538090
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He's trying to get away but he can't open the door.
Should I tell him?

Also level 16xx awakened dungeons are ridiculous. This is the second floor and contingency has already activated 3 times. I need to be more careful. I'm pretty sure everything has 2000 in every stat by this point. I need to find an insight lens just to make sure.

Surely rods of wish show up more frequently in these though, right? Surely.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 18:06:50 2015 No.13538144 >>13537589 Now I'm glad I saved up all those Platinum coins. 2 for 20% potential in a skill is awesome.

Anonymous Sat May 23 18:13:05 2015 No.13538180

>>13538090
Dragon is regretting not having taken pick locks. It's also possible that due to the searing heat and light of meteors bombarding the dungeon floor that he's now blind and doesn't know that most of the walls are gone. Poor dragon's death message will be "Fucking Doors!"

Anonymous Sat May 23 18:18:28 2015 No.13538201
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So I thought stats, including levels, only went up to 2000? I was surprised to see this.

>>13538144
I just checked the trainer. I think they might have overly dropped the training prices. 10 plat max instead of 30? That's pretty ridiculous. Wizard's Harvest is even better now. Hoo boy.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 18:24:46 2015 No.13538217 >>13538201 It's ridiculous to me, since I'm still in the early game with nothing above 50. I might have overdone it though, I have Tactics at 234% potential right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 18:55:07 2015 No.13538338 >>13538144 >>13538201 >>13538217 Oh my. Makes me kinda regret having dumped all my plat into my cart, but it's not like that 250s isn't put into use. 10 for 20% is really attractive.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 19:02:34 2015 No.13538365 I was kinda happy about the price drops in training but this is sounding really stupid

Anonymous Sat May 23 19:21:18 2015 No.13538435

>>13538365
I'm actually kinda happy about the changes. I can now spend my plat on more than 2 skills now and have them at 400% potential. This frees up my medals to use on other things instead of scrolls of growth when I've already exchanged my sox supply.

This will probably shave hours off the grind in the long run but that's a good thing. Seriously, this game, in order to even see and do everything, you're still going to have to put at least 300 hours into it or even more. Some hours shaved off is not a big deal considering there's more game here in Elona than in some of the triple A titles that have been released as of late.

I'm also happy that this will ease new players into the game more and make them feel like they're making more progress in terms of character power.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 19:42:55 2015 No.13538516 Thinking about updating to 1.45 for dem cheaper training costs. any bugs found yet?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 19:44:46 2015 No.13538527 >>13538516 It's only been live for an hour or two, give it a little bit of time

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 19:56:06 2015 No.13538578 >>13538435 This helps a lot during the early game, late game plat really wasn't an issue at least for me. Really takes the sting off starting a new character for sure.

Anonymous Sat May 23 21:11:06 2015 No.13538890

>>13535042
I keep forgetting to respond to this, sorry about that.

I'll go find the formula on the archive, thanks. I vaguely remember seeing something about magic device being able to catch things twice the level of your magic device, but I'm not sure. I really want to over-ray with a group of 2000 magic 1000 casting magic spirits.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 21:13:00 2015 No.13538899 Is dual wield ever worth it? what about for pets other than something with 3+ hands?

Anonymous Sat May 23 21:19:55 2015 No.13538929

>>13538899
Weapon + Shield: Low damage taken, low damage dealt. Good for ranged characters.
Twohand: High accuracy, high damage. Good for high PV/DV enemies.
Dualwield: Low accuracy, low damage per hit, lots of hits. Good for most situations, but really high PV or DV enemies will ruin your day.

2h beats the hell out of DW early game because you can actually hit shit, but late game accuracy gets so high it doesn't matter so DW pulls out ahead.

Anonymous Sat May 23 21:46:49 2015 No.13539050

alright what are your guys routines for lucky days again?

I remember reading about it before but can't find it in the archive.

specifically what is the process with treasure maps? is loot generated on drop or when first read?

Should i be blessing my treasure maps, ID'ing them, and then reading them with lucky day?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:00:38 2015 No.13539108 I found an evolution heart. As someone who didn't really intend to use pets but could probably use a mount eventually what should I do with this thing? I might just reset it since it isn't the item I was farming for.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:02:29 2015 No.13539120 File: 761 KB, 1280x768, Holocaust final boss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It is time. Going to astral light hyper yacatect for my new shopkeeper.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:16:53 2015 No.13539187 How high do I need to get my resistances to take on the boss of the crypt of the damned? I was expecting it to go a bit smoother but I couldn't hit with my gun at all and I got one-shot by a nether dart.

Anonymous Sat May 23 22:18:01 2015 No.13539190
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Damn, she's definitely the hardest so far.
It's entirely thanks to her weapon too. She can prevent teleportation just like the other inner gods, but her weapon invokes draw shadow almost every time it hits you, which means you're going to get sucked in and hit another 5 or so times. The only way I've been able to escape it is getting lucky with dodges or timing my attacks so she could only possibly hit me just before her "space retention" (what prevents teleport) buff wears off. On top of that it invokes mist of silence which very nearly killed me.

Still, she's almost dead. Thankfully she casts fury seemingly randomly (might be part of her gold rush ability) which makes my meteor hit her like a truck.

Here's hoping I can keep this up. Just a few more hits.

Anonymous Sat May 23 22:21:24 2015 No.13539202
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Alright, three down. Almost half way there. I'm down to my last rod of wish though. I can almost cast wish again, and I can probably count on a noyel wish, but I'll need to get lucky farming up those rods after that.

Any thoughts on where I should look? So far I've had the best luck getting a million treasure maps from wizard's harvest then digging them all up.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:22:28 2015 No.13539207 >>13538929 also dw means you can use multiple invokes. >>13539050 read I think.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:24:10 2015 No.13539209 >>13539187 Superb+ of anything he's hitting you with.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:28:12 2015 No.13539231 >>13539202 Grats anon. Now to put her to work at the shop. Just keep an eye on her and make sure she's not skimming money from the safe. Knowing her she might not be able to help herself.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:31:26 2015 No.13539248 >>13539209 Welp. Sounds like I need to get some better gear then.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:37:20 2015 No.13539281 In the pastebin it says "Class can be changed later on, but race cannot." How does changing class work?

Anonymous Sat May 23 22:39:32 2015 No.13539293

>>13539281
There is an item called "business card" which allows you to change class. You can find said item in later dungeons on the floor. If you use said card and type in all lower class a class you want to change into you'll change to that class and inherit its class feat/ability.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:40:24 2015 No.13539297 >>13539281 >>13539293 You can also win them from casinos if you can get a huge winstreak going.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:40:55 2015 No.13539300 >>13539293 >>13539297 Thanks anons.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:41:17 2015 No.13539303 so what is the best power gaming class? warmage for that sweet sweet medium armor cast rating?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:49:15 2015 No.13539351 >>13539108 I was thinking I could evolve a fire dragon child then use it as a mount. My speed is already really high because of hooves and feathers and my training so it's hard to justify using a mount even though I'm a mutant.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 22:52:50 2015 No.13539380 >>13539351 Do you have the riding skill and have you been constantly leveling it? If not then you'll be disappointed with your speed if you try to mount anything.

Anonymous Sat May 23 22:59:12 2015 No.13539411

>>13539380
That's exactly why I haven't been training riding in the first place.
Riding a phoenix into combat is pretty cool and if I ever want to go above the limb cap with the scientist I'll probably want a mount.
Megid flame and boost appear to be pretty good abilities too but I want to know if this is a good long-term investment or if it's a waste to use this over other mounts that don't require this item so I can go back to farming what I was originally looking for.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 23:08:38 2015 No.13539461 >>13539411 Upon further reading it would be a phoenix that uses a bow while being ridden by a crazy man with a multitude of limbs that can stop time. I think I'll do it. How the hell do I catch one of these things.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 23:13:56 2015 No.13539502 I feel like I fucked up hard with not maintaining my potentials well enough and didn't dive enough dungeons before progressing the plot. Should I just make a gene and make a new character?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 23:18:25 2015 No.13539537 >>13539461 I guess I can throw a potion of poison at it then catch it when it is low enough?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 23:22:29 2015 No.13539565 Holy crap, I'm loving some of these new skills I missed out on. Shadow Step is really nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 23:30:25 2015 No.13539614 >>13539537 Should work if your monster ball is high enough. Good luck anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 23 23:32:02 2015 No.13539625 >>13539614 Dragon childs are level 2 so I won't have a problem there. I saw them plenty in puppy cave and pretty much anywhere low level. I just hope the poison isn't too much for it.

Anonymous Sat May 23 23:37:10 2015 No.13539654

>>13539502
How is the plot preventing you from making the necessary fixes to your character? Could just chill on doing the plot and instead work on getting enough money to invest in every magic vendor you see. Shop level 100 should be good enough to start seeing potions of potential on a consistent basis. Level up and seek out gear by dungeon diving.

If you feel even this can't fix your character then go ahead and make a gene. There is no shame in this as many people's first couple of characters are trial characters used to learn the game.

Anonymous Sat May 23 23:48:08 2015 No.13539719

>>13539654
I advanced it far enough that when a diastrophism hit all the dungeons ended up too tough for me.

I can still make money though so I guess I can work for some potions

I'll have to get a magic vendor in my house though. All my towns are infested with werewolves and I don't trust that at all.

Anonymous Sat May 23 23:52:49 2015 No.13539750

>>13539719
I think dungeon difficulty is related to your fame, not plot progress. If you REALLY can't handle it you can always fail some quests to drop your fame, but this makes it take that much longer to get to the jobs that hand out much nicer rewards.
Either way, lower level dungeons will still show up on occasion.

Anonymous Sat May 23 23:54:44 2015 No.13539759

>>13539750
>I think dungeon difficulty is related to your fame, not plot progress.
Please stop spreading misinfo.
Random dungeon difficulty is determined by: Continent, main plot progress, highest level random dungeon cleared. Not fame, not your level, not anything else.

Anonymous Sun May 24 00:11:43 2015 No.13539861

>>13539719
In all my playtime I have never seen a town infested by werewolves. I believe you though. So how did this come about? I've always seen the option to accuse someone of being a werewolf but I've never had to use it because I've never seen a werewolf infestation or see the beginning stages of one. If you destroy all the werewolves would the infestation stop?

Anonymous Sun May 24 00:20:50 2015 No.13539910

>>13539861
If you guess wrong I think the werewolf lives.

I did get the right one, at least in Vernis, since they were branded a werewolf already, but another one showed up because my blacksmith died the same night.

I do have to thank it though because I got Ragnarok cause one of 'em got Whom Dwell in Vanity pretty early on.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 00:54:25 2015 No.13540096 >>13539625 Now I just have to train the little bastard. I gave him a really powerful bow to fuck up putis.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:05:06 2015 No.13540163 File: 303 KB, 799x699, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13540096 Why is it meleeing when it can't use melee weapons but can use bows?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:06:04 2015 No.13540171 >>13532060 Is there a cap they can hold or do they keep piling up?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:14:49 2015 No.13540205 >>13540163 According to the wiki it does have melee weapon skills as well as ranged weapon skills.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:16:21 2015 No.13540212 >>13540163 Pets are dumb, anon. That's what makes them cute. You can either gene engineer some hand slots or you can try and get it some AP to switch its battle routine from Leold in South Tyris.

Anonymous Sun May 24 01:17:39 2015 No.13540216

>>13538365
It kind of it but otoh all it did was slow things down. E+ difficulty is self applied so if your fighting skills are shit that just means another 500 tedious harvest time jobs. Consider that you would do all of yowyn and some of palmia and vernis for a single 20% boost to a single skilll once it got up there. It's especially painful before panic jobs kick in.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:22:04 2015 No.13540245 >>13540212 Well I guess I should kill that asshole on the main quest then. If I'm going to be riding the thing I don't want to fuck up its hp pools for now. I have 80 AP so 30 can't be too harmful.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:30:50 2015 No.13540278 >>13540216 Yeah you're right anon that sounds painful although I honestly get bored before I hit that point ;_; no bully

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:35:04 2015 No.13540296 File: 241 KB, 803x696, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13540212 We found friends!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:41:17 2015 No.13540330 whats the hard on with fire dragon?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:41:32 2015 No.13540332 File: 71 KB, 446x193, problems.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13540296

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 01:58:58 2015 No.13540408 >>13540296 I'm starting to feel a bit inadequate when it comes to my HP.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 02:04:36 2015 No.13540444 >>13540408 +20% hp from feats, precious cheese, and 1/3 of my con is from my belief in the greatest god.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 02:05:28 2015 No.13540452 >>13540408 Raising your strength, constitution, and level will help in increasing your HP. A Golem character will say that your problem is the fact that you're not a Golem though.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 02:08:01 2015 No.13540465 >>13540408 I have less HP than you and I feel fiiiine. Enchant your gear. I have double your PV/DV and I'm a Light Armor man. Also, blessing scrolls of change material can get you some nice gear if you're willing to go through a good amount.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 02:13:52 2015 No.13540495 File: 397 KB, 803x692, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13540465 Yeah I can't really rely on my armor so I went with getting as much hp as possible. My dodge chance is still pretty good though.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 02:16:08 2015 No.13540503 >>13540444 I think I've got 15% from feats, with 6% from cheese. At least my strength is okay, I'm level 25 and it's the only stat I have over 50 without stat boosts.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 02:52:45 2015 No.13540630 best sleep quality bed = blessed dragonscale happy bed?

Anonymous Sun May 24 03:18:14 2015 No.13540738
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>>13540465
>tfw PV+50 from etherwind disease
>but CHR -7 and SPD -24
I have 100 spd so it's not like I'm missing much. PV before was like 10 so is it worth it until I get better equipment?

Also, where can I find artifact seeds

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 03:40:16 2015 No.13540824 >>13540738 >PV before was like 10 Shit, I'd probably keep that for now. Are you playing a fairy? 50 PV is a pretty big chunk, especially if it's 10->60.

Anonymous Sun May 24 03:49:40 2015 No.13540842

>>13540824
I just couldn't be bothered to get decent equipment since I was trading most of the time and doing harvest time quests for seeds and plats

I'm level 12 so my PV from equipment should be a lot higher, I'm investing in a shop and just waiting for good equipment to come up right now. Rogue bosses are, strangely enough given the low speed, rarely troublesome thanks to teleportation scrolls

I'm playing a Yerles Farmer

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 04:14:23 2015 No.13540897 >>13540330 Fire dragon has the most evolutions of any pet so far, so there's a little incentive to stick with him >>13540630 material doesn't affect beds. You want spirit cloth for the light weight.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 04:23:45 2015 No.13540918 >>13540897 okay thanks. does quality (Maniac, godly) effect sleep quality?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 04:23:54 2015 No.13540919 >>13540738 Please tell me where I can find artifact seeds

Anonymous Sun May 24 04:33:09 2015 No.13540946
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>>13540330
I like it because, it has 3 evolutions, it has boost after 2nd evolution, it has a base 220 life that makes it perfect for a lifelong tanker partner and because it doesn't have that anoying breath attack every other dragon types love to spam. It also has superb fire resist. Took me a while to change his best resist to nether but mine reks shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 04:37:10 2015 No.13540957 >>13540919 Not on harvest quests. The cute fairy sometimes poops it up, but Kumiromi statues are what I get mine. Maybe in dungeons if you're lucky.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 04:40:04 2015 No.13540969 >>13540946 It still can't melt steel beams.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 04:43:50 2015 No.13540977 File: 1.57 MB, 1680x1050, Souryuu.Asuka.Langley.full.1252482.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >opening the shackles of the fire giant at Noyel on the festival why does this not take away karma?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 04:45:19 2015 No.13540978 >>13540919 Statues of kumi, cute fairy, rarely dungeons, miral and garrok

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 04:56:38 2015 No.13541014 >>13540918 almost 100% positive it does not.

Anonymous Sun May 24 04:59:10 2015 No.13541026

>>13540969
Of course not. But I'm still proud of him. he's been my partner since like forever. I think I caught him with the monsterball you get from Shena's quest.
The awesome thing is once his pickpoket got to around 30-ish I never needed to gene splice monsters in him for levels and stats.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 05:01:01 2015 No.13541029 >>13541026 why pickpocket?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 05:07:09 2015 No.13541044 >>13541029 He was able to pay for his training without me having to remember to pass him money.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 05:07:31 2015 No.13541046 >>13541044 ahh okay

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 05:07:33 2015 No.13541047 >>13541029 Free Money

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 05:11:00 2015 No.13541059 When I eat herbed foods, I no longer experience start gains. Are there actions I can take to maximize the benefits of herbed foods?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 05:11:48 2015 No.13541061 >>13541059 Boost your stat potential

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 05:58:01 2015 No.13541200 >>13541059 As the other poster said, keep your stat potentials high. That said, experience for stats/skills are lowered based on that skill's/stat's level, so that could be hurting you as well.

Anonymous Sun May 24 07:47:52 2015 No.13541490

>Bookcase limit is 100 stacks of books/scrolls regardless of how many more you buy
>In the year two thousand and fifteen of our loli waifu
>You can easily get 0-15+ books a shopping trip or one dungeon
>Storage house is 200 items
>Memorization mechanic is based around not just reading them all with increasing diminishing returns that may or may not matter depending on your cash flow, guild, and shopkeep choice
One fucking hundred. That's it. Hoooley shit oh my god.

Anonymous Sun May 24 07:57:57 2015 No.13541502

>>13541490
Spellstock use goes down with level ( with the minimum being level 300 for a 80% discount ), you'll soon enough always have more stocks than you use, as long as you empty from time to time the bookwriter.
Let's not forget that sweet memorization skill, too. Reading books now train it for later.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 08:11:01 2015 No.13541535 >>13541502 I'm not in the mage guild So I'm running wholly off of invested magic shops and dungeon drops

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 08:24:00 2015 No.13541568 >>13529570 Anyone have spoilers for the chances of fill charge results for rods/spellbooks/blankets/other devices?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 12:38:27 2015 No.13542316 I feel like evolution hearts should have some use on the player. Even if they just gave a tiny bit of skill points or stat xp. Maybe raised some potentials or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 12:43:49 2015 No.13542336 Fuck it i'm just gonna play overdose mode, third character in a week and i'd like to actually get somewhere for once.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 12:58:00 2015 No.13542417 >>13542336 After investing in a Magic Shop, I actually do feel like I'm going places. I feel invincible. I bet something is going to come around and prove me wrong though.

Anonymous Sun May 24 13:08:02 2015 No.13542455
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Some tips for fighting Dewastate Lulwy:
1. Mist of Darkness helps a lot
2. Quick Use helps immensely. 30 rods of mana and 60-100 scrolls of recharge should be enough to carry you through the fight. Using Fill Charge and sucking blood to recover stamina takes too much time.
3. Don't fight in the rain, don't use magaqua. The Dreadnought deals a lot of lightning damage and packs a huge punch. Consider using a shield even if it lowers you chance to cast.
4. Slow is a must, she constantly spams Lulwy's trick and 900+ turns long Speed.

>>13539190
Goddamnit, I completely forgot about Ragnarok. I guess I was really lucky to not have my house annihilated.

>>13539202
You can steal 10 toilets from the Jail. When your pet finishes drinking just use a rod of alchemy on the empty toilet and it will turn into a full one.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 13:30:10 2015 No.13542529 >>13542455 Good job. Lulwy has been the one I've been dreading the most, I'll take your advice. Wait, you can get wishes from toilets? I honestly had no idea. Guess I'll curse a scroll of return and head to jail. Thanks.

Anonymous Sun May 24 13:34:30 2015 No.13542546

>>13539190
>>13539202
>>13542455

if you switch faith to Itzpalt, you won't have to spend so much of your time using rods of mana.

also, you should use the Provoke ability, which causes fury in enemies. combine with Rampage for 4x damage. Rotten tomatoes have the same effect, too, apparently.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 14:00:46 2015 No.13542635 What the hell is a DD cemetery key?

Anonymous Sun May 24 14:07:26 2015 No.13542667
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>>13542546
Way ahead of you. My absorb magic heals for more than my rods, and I have pretty high magic device. I put all the nefia cores that increased faith I had stocked up into an unknown shell and the results were pretty great.

Fury is a really good idea though. A bit risky but that's probably my only chance of fighting through Jure's healing. So thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 14:34:19 2015 No.13542770 Holy crap, I love Shining Wave. Every time I think something in Elona+ can't impress me again, it manages it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 14:35:25 2015 No.13542778 File: 485 KB, 1280x768, well fuck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ok so the platinum buff isn't too bad. Seems they replaced scrolls of growth from sox with scrolls of faith. Welp.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:17:23 2015 No.13542933 What is there to do in moongates? I can't use anybody's stuff, I can't pickpocket, I can't even sleep in someone's bed.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:19:44 2015 No.13542938 >>13542933 If it's the one with doors you train lockpicking and the one with bubbles you train your armor skill. You used to be able to loot kitty banks but it looks like they fixed that

Anonymous Sun May 24 15:21:29 2015 No.13542947

>>13542933
Many moongates have crystals that contain an NPC that will be added to your game when you interact with them. Most of them I found aren't even on the uploader, and I got a lot of really nice monsters and cute grills. For the most part, moongates are just for taking a look at other player's stuff. There's also moongate levels that have varying monsters to kill, and of course the infinite wish ones.

Anonymous Sun May 24 15:22:36 2015 No.13542951

>>13542417
It goes kinda like this. Doing good then the elemental hounds show up and you're like "well fuck..." So you then get some gear with resists. "Ok everything is great now I'm surviving." but then you look at your stats and see all their potentials are hopeless and you're then "well fuck...again". So then you start investing in shops for potions of potentials and think. "Ok, now I'm doing well and the only way is up for me!" Sound familiar?

Well for the most part you're right. Your stats are starting to rise and you have some good resists on you. You can now do dungeons many levels above you and you think "I'm going to make you my bitch now game". So you go and do the dungeons and as your climb in dungeon danger levels you feel great and then...

WHAM! you meet the stag god, the elemental dragon, Atlas, and the five headed god. Maybe all in the same dungeon too. They wreck your shit and you think "What the hell?" So you go back to the drawing board. You then realize that you'll need ways to aggressively raise your stats, you really need to start finishing your resist gear, and you really need to start grinding out your skills. You may now be cursing this speed bump in difficulty but rest assured.

The difficulty will pass as you get stronger...and then you move onto awakened dungeons, the deeper levels of the void, and maybe even the gods. Which all will truly test you. If you have flaws anywhere in your character those three will expose it.

Anonymous Sun May 24 15:23:59 2015 No.13542957

What exactly does creating a gene do? The wiki doesn't explain it very well.
It's like creating a new character except you inherint all of your previous character's equipment+inventory. But what's this about bonuses? And what about your house and pets?

Anonymous Sun May 24 15:27:55 2015 No.13542970

>>13542635
It's a storage of coffins of necromancy, and also a tool that will automatically redeploy your already summoned zombies in case you zone in to another map.
I won't use that for serious fights, but for smaller dungeons a horde of zombies seem to be an effective cleaning brigade. They also tend to like your music in Party Time quests as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:28:55 2015 No.13542977 >>13542957 The only thing that gets transferred is your inventory and a portion of your gold, and a max of 50 plat. (Or do you always start with 50 plat? I forget)

Anonymous Sun May 24 15:30:05 2015 No.13542980

>>13542951

Yeah, I've gone against hounds before. Usually where I struggle is Ungaga or whatever his name is killing me in a single hit. I've gotten past him, and learning all these great skills. But so far, resists really do seem important. Hard to find nice equipment that gives resists in everything, I especially need cold resist since what I have now isn't cutting it. I finally found a good weapon though.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:32:28 2015 No.13542988 >>13542977 I made an actual gene only 3 times. Mostly I've been only fooling around with sleep sheeps, nudge nudge. I got 50 plat every time for the new character.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:34:17 2015 No.13542994 >>13542977 Then what's the point in doing so exactly? Is it even possible to fuck your character up so badly that you're better off starting over? I was under the impression that herbs and potions of potential could fix everything.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:35:45 2015 No.13543003 >>13542994 Some race/class combinations have much easier starts than others. Some people like to rush through, grab a bunch of artifacts and plat on say a dwarf warrior, and then make a gene and make a wizard or a farmer.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:37:41 2015 No.13543015 It is time

Anonymous Sun May 24 15:43:31 2015 No.13543047
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Go my babies.

They're doing a good job of eating his turns he can't retention -> draw -> chingchongoneshot me.
I doubt it would happen since I'm a bit faster than him, but accidents happen. So far he's by far the easiest. He hasn't hit me once with his thrown weapon. Doesn't take much damage from meteor but whatever.

>>13543015
For me to forget my image apparently.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:43:44 2015 No.13543049 >>13542994 Yes it is, but it's most common early game. A new player can get malmutated, wear cursed bloodsucking equipment, lose their pets, money and items and be literally unable to leave their cave

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:45:22 2015 No.13543056 >>13542994 It's less New Game +, and more "easier start if you want to try something different".

Anonymous Sun May 24 15:53:26 2015 No.13543089
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Donezo. Halfway there.
I think I'll bring a big stock of coffins to the rest of the inner gods. They don't negatively affect me at all and they eat up their turns.

Unfortunately I'm out of wishes now, and I'm only at 26% cast chance for the wish spell. Guess I'm crafting a bunch of cursed return scrolls hoping for jail toilets. I'm thinking Kumi next.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 15:59:44 2015 No.13543128 >>13543089 So if your undead die they turn back into their coffins with a 1 hour cooldown?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 16:02:03 2015 No.13543137 Should I equip some Disturbs Your Growth items if i'm gonna powergrind my skills early game? Does level even account for how hard monsters are in the field anymore? I remember this being a pretty decent tactic in vanilla.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 16:02:51 2015 No.13543141 >>13543089 Grats anon. Although, I think it's a bit weird to summon gods from the toilet. But you do what you have to to do.

Anonymous Sun May 24 16:05:10 2015 No.13543149

>>13543128
24 hour cooldown.
If you remand them I think they have a 1 hour cooldown, or it might have no cooldown.
If you suicide bomb them it's either 1 hour or 24 hours, I think 24 hours.
If you undead return them then it's 1 hour.

Necro-force has made these guys much more useful. If I boost them they actually get a decent amount of turns. My biggest hope for future development right now is that they keep adding more to necromancy. I love the idea and I really want to see it possible to make an entire character based around it.

>>13543137
Nah don't do it. The only point to being low level now is getting more skill points from learning, but that in itself requires you leveling up, so screw it.

>>13543141
My thoughts exactly. Magic reactioning myself to low health now so one of the guards can send me to jail. That -100 karma from party time shenanigans has paid off.

I just really hope I can get my magic device high enough to dominate some of my magic spirits before this is all over. I desperately want to finish this with an over-ray spirit bomb.

Anonymous Sun May 24 16:09:42 2015 No.13543162

>>13543137
Fame helps determine how hard the bandits/pirates are when you encounter them on the field. As for leveling, aside from maybe not paying taxes for a time, it should not be avoided. Leveling is a good thing in Elona+ and will help with your stamina, health, and mana bar.

Anonymous Sun May 24 16:18:08 2015 No.13543203

>>13543137
I actually did that. Found out that it's not quite worth it. Doing gardening and eating herbed herbs makes sure I got 3 times more the stats I should have had in vanilla at my level.

You don't need to do it. In elona plus being higher level is a good thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 16:22:44 2015 No.13543227 >>13543089 I can actually imagine Kumi's face as he emerges from the crapper, looks around and then looks at you like "No, you didn't just..." You know I could even say it's webcomic material.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 16:35:13 2015 No.13543284 >>13543227 This is exactly why it's hard to explain what the game Elona is to people lol

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 16:48:53 2015 No.13543350 Is it normal for nightmares to be giving beneficial mutations? So far I've gotten +regen and +5 Charisma off nightmares.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 16:50:42 2015 No.13543355 >>13543350 Yes. Same with wells.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 17:28:36 2015 No.13543549 File: 294 KB, 797x598, woooooooooo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Woah, I actually did it. I never imagined I'd get this far when I tried to play this some years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 17:30:12 2015 No.13543560 >>13543549 >heh nothin personnel.. kid grats anon!

Anonymous Sun May 24 17:32:56 2015 No.13543575
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I got my wish to 30% cast chance and got tired of waiting. I failed several casts in a row but got it on a 1% chance. I think I might just spam it hoping for more now. If I luck out my journey might finally come to an end today.

Kumi coming right up.

>>13543549
Good job anon. You're learning and getting better. You'll get farther every time you try making a new character, and you'll start out with more and more knowledge. It's fun!

Anonymous Sun May 24 17:43:07 2015 No.13543621

Ok Kumi is a bit scary. His shadow steps take off about 30% of my mana. Definitely glad I got the buster book before fighting him.
I have about 10 unicorn horns and the statue of jure ready for his insanity wave, hope that's enough. I also hope my rods of mana hold out against his shadow steps. Coffins of necromancy are still pretty useful.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 17:52:19 2015 No.13543667 File: 809 KB, 1280x768, slowly running out of meteor stocks.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gg no re Over halfway now. My wish options are dwindling though.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 18:12:50 2015 No.13543759 >>13543667 GJ anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 18:50:17 2015 No.13543965 There a good gun I should look for early on, or should I just keep dungeon diving and hoping for a godly or artifact gun?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 19:01:12 2015 No.13544020 >>13543965 The Winchester Premium is a good gun that you can get early on. To get it you have to worship Mani of Machine and earn favor with him by donating guns. Then after that there's the Rail Gun which Utima drops.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 19:05:27 2015 No.13544039 >>13544020 Alright cool. I'm almost done Yacatect so I'll switch over to Mani once I get her last gift.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 19:07:16 2015 No.13544047 File: 205 KB, 500x500, 1400648417847.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13542778 Guess i'll update after going to lost irva and emptying my enormous stock of sox.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 19:12:12 2015 No.13544071 >>13544039 There's also the Valkoinen Kuolema from Stoke when you get enough music tickets. I prefer its range compared to the Winchester.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 19:48:16 2015 No.13544234 Anyone know how to continue the main quest since 1.45? I went down to level 10 of cradle of chaos and beat the boss, then it tells me to talk to Gavela, I do but when I return the boss is back and it tells me to talk to Gavela again.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 19:54:01 2015 No.13544254 File: 87 KB, 592x136, aaa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New food item? Sounds dangerous

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:01:41 2015 No.13544286 >>13544254 Eat it and tell us what happens.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:05:21 2015 No.13544293 >>13544254 Don't be such a pussy.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:07:33 2015 No.13544299 is there anyway to get a CNPC to spawn as a merc?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:07:56 2015 No.13544301 File: 29 KB, 717x67, aab.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:11:14 2015 No.13544308 >>13544301 Aww. You didn't exploded everywhere at once. Disappointed.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:12:58 2015 No.13544314 >>13544301 I guess radiation for japaneese is nothing special anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:20:38 2015 No.13544343 >>13544254 Speaking of dangerous, I actually picked trick when a kid did his trick or treat thing. He threw a bunch of molotovs, then died in the fire. It was hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:24:04 2015 No.13544355 >>13544343 I just shining wave them to death for their disrespect and disrespectful vandalism. My character is 36 and he isn't putting up with this shit.

Anonymous Sun May 24 20:25:06 2015 No.13544360

Man I'm getting desperate for wishes. I'm buying every treasure map from the noyel festival during every reset. I also converted to Jure to summon her come november, that'll save a wish.

Once the new year is here I'll have some pets drink from my 11 toilets until I get a wish.

Any other ideas? I'm so close, and frankly I really want to play something else. Just a bit more though!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:26:12 2015 No.13544363 File: 308 KB, 796x596, nicejob.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13544355 Yeah, those guys are assholes. Can't win, either you get a karma loss or a housefire. It was worth it for this though.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:29:57 2015 No.13544380 >>13544363 Your character is 36 anon and he still live in a cave, for shame anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:31:41 2015 No.13544386 >>13544380 I'm too poor to afford the mansion, I won't settle for anything less than that.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:45:44 2015 No.13544430 I can't find this info on the wiki. What does using the training machine in the shelter do exactly

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 20:49:49 2015 No.13544450 >>13544430 Very slowly trains your physical stats iirc. I only really use it if the book isn't one for a skill I have.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 21:06:21 2015 No.13544522 >>13544430 Strength potential

Anonymous Sun May 24 21:59:50 2015 No.13544800

>>13544363
I am an upstanding citizen and adventurer who has warded off countless invasions that threatened Palmia. If I actually got low enough karma that the guards tried to attack me, those guards that can't even scratch me anymore, I could just buy an indulgence.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 24 22:38:57 2015 No.13544955 What would be a smart location to put my home/farm if I'm a farmer?

Anonymous Sun May 24 22:56:50 2015 No.13545041

>>13544955
A place with a lot of land so you can plant down lots of farms. You'll also want your house, shop, and storage places to be easy to access from your farmlands as you'll have lots of stuff to haul around from fertilizer, seeds, vegetables, herbs, gems, magical items, artifacts, etc.

Anonymous Sun May 24 23:18:46 2015 No.13545137

>>13544955
I farmed a lot more when I first started. Now, I mostly just use my Kumiromi statues and then plant those, but near the start of the game I put my castle between Yowyn and Palmia so I could quickly access either city, and Yowyn has a lot of farm quests, so that place could work.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 01:12:51 2015 No.13545624 >>13543549 >tfw level 30 with no greater evasion skill He rapes me.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 01:14:30 2015 No.13545635 >>13545624 Makes me glad I go Claymore. I don't know how much Greater Evasion actually contributes though. I have mine at 24 so far.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 01:18:05 2015 No.13545657 How good is pickpocketing exactly? Good enough to join the thief's guild for so that I can learn it from the trainer there?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 01:21:15 2015 No.13545676 >>13545657 you can incognito later, teleport the guild leader away, and then learn it before he reaches you. mage guild is best if power gaming.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 01:23:19 2015 No.13545686 >>13545676 I haven't casted a single spell ever and I'm 15 levels in, so I don't think I'm cut out for that. Meanwhile, isn't the fighters guild catered to meleedudes? Where's a gun-toting bastard even supposed to go

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 01:23:51 2015 No.13545690 >>13543549 Holy shit I feel bad. I feel bad for having to kill him at 40-50.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 01:26:51 2015 No.13545708 >>13545690 I feel like the only reason I won is because of all the neat Elona+ perks, so I had my Tactics up to 70. I also got lucky and he didn't heal up.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 01:53:49 2015 No.13545825 >>13536728 Really? Objet of heart doesn't work in wizard mode. Sorry for that little mistake

Anonymous Mon May 25 02:16:55 2015 No.13545943

>>13545635
Just 3 more points to go.
I'm afraid to do >>13545676 because I don't want to fail the join quest halfway through.
>>13545686
>not casting heals
>holy might
>teleport
>holy shield
>holy veil
>SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
>feather
You should also probably look up what the guilds actually train.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 03:48:14 2015 No.13546270 Why does Elochat.exe not close properly? I have to end the process to close it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 04:02:08 2015 No.13546319 >>13546270 A lot of HSP shit does that. I don't know why.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 04:58:57 2015 No.13546506 File: 2.74 MB, 1396x1992, 73835fe25a2469096be3a81aae692574.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hang in there Miko, don't let those rogue bosses bully you! Or that rogue archer...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 05:19:40 2015 No.13546557 File: 7 KB, 128x192, pcc_body_4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13546506 Miko a cute.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 06:06:59 2015 No.13546716 Why won't blacksmiths repair arrows? Slimes fucked up my arrows.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 08:45:51 2015 No.13547097 >>13546716 How exactly will a blacksmith repair an arrow? Smith the tip?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 09:53:28 2015 No.13547315 >>13546716 That's why you acid proof them, silly anon. Well, the godly ones. Don't go waste an acidproof on some iron bolts.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 12:38:07 2015 No.13547864 File: 486 KB, 1024x768, ehehe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Frisia's Tail obtained!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 12:42:15 2015 No.13547872 >>13547864 Are you carrying around a catgirl as a free blood supply?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 12:51:54 2015 No.13547898 As a man with 8 arms and 40 medals, should I go for shield tonfa or diablo?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 12:55:14 2015 No.13547909 >>13547898 Shield Tonfa. The damage bonus applies to every single attack you make.

Anonymous Mon May 25 12:58:31 2015 No.13547919
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Mist of silence is the bane of Blessed Jure. A goddess of healing that can't heal her own wounds is no better than Eyth of Infidel.

>>13547872
Well, Fron is a catsister and I suck her blood often, so yes, but this is just a random silver cat that I summoned.

>>13547898
I'd recommend Shield Tonfa, I'm still using it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 13:32:29 2015 No.13548017 File: 476 KB, 1024x768, kill me already!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Heh.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 13:40:41 2015 No.13548052 File: 488 KB, 1024x768, fifth element.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man, that was a long night.

Anonymous Mon May 25 13:46:42 2015 No.13548071

>>13547919
Good job anon.
What level is your mist of silence that it affects inner gods? I'm hoping my 450 magic device is enough to rod of silence Jure when I tackle her tonight.

>>13548052
and good job again. How many do you have left now? Are you getting these wishes from toilet spam?

Anonymous Mon May 25 14:11:10 2015 No.13548155

>>13548071
Level 166. My magic device is 305, and silence from rods lasted longer than from spell when I used it against low level monsters, so you'll be fine.
I got 2 rods of wishing from treasure maps and 2 from my magical farm. I still need to kill Mani and Yacatect, and I have only 1 rod left. My Wish chance is 51% though.

Anonymous Mon May 25 14:25:20 2015 No.13548180

>>13548155
Perfect, thanks anon.
Good luck with that wish. I got mine to 30, failed, then spammed 1% and got it anyway.

I've still got Jure, Lulwy, and Mani left. Just going to summon Jure with the truce ground though. Make sure to bring rods of holy light to Yacatect.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 14:27:55 2015 No.13548188 >>13548180 I will, thank you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 14:31:51 2015 No.13548208 File: 16 KB, 426x272, 1432578711768.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13544314

Anonymous Mon May 25 14:37:12 2015 No.13548225

Oh and something to note about making Hyper Yacatect your shopkeeper:
She can't equip anything unless you flying scroll the coin. In fact, if you take her coin and then try and give it back once identified, she will say it's too heavy. She also only has hand slots.

So if you want an inner god as a shopkeeper, keep at least a dozen or so flying scrolls hand first.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 16:22:33 2015 No.13548627 File: 598 KB, 1280x768, Lulwy god of toilet wishes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It is time

Anonymous Mon May 25 16:31:07 2015 No.13548659
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She's kind of a pushover. I was expecting her to be the toughest but so far she isn't a big deal. I've been just staying on her so she uses most of her turns to try running. Her lightning invoke barely scratches me because fairy with attribution shield and abused artifact fusion. Maybe she'll summon the tornados soon.

I haven't even brought out my necro coffins.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 16:33:18 2015 No.13548668 File: 786 KB, 1280x768, Two left.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] She was geared super well too. I'm actually pretty disappointed I didn't get to see the tornados.

Anonymous Mon May 25 16:39:04 2015 No.13548685
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>>13543549
>>13545690
Extremely old, but even earlier is possible.

Nowadays, I think if you abuse it right, even under level 25 is possible with the right equipment and abuse of time stop and burst ammo plus a thrown rotten tomato. Though if you're inheriting to murder the early game, may as well inherit level 100+ pets instead.

Anonymous Mon May 25 18:28:53 2015 No.13549085
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Silence really bones her, but she casts holy veil as well. Almost had her dead but then she healed up to almost full. Still, she's not particularly hard, just gotta prepare for her and have high magic device.

"How do I eat food" I wish I could help you, fun kitty punchman

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 18:33:24 2015 No.13549114 File: 689 KB, 1280x768, rip truce grounds.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now only one to go, Mani. I'm excited. Going to get god inside ehekatl to drink from so many toilets.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 18:43:49 2015 No.13549158 >>13549114 Gods drinking from toilets. Oh how the gods have been brought low.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 25 18:50:38 2015 No.13549188 >>13549114 Soon you're going to become a god And then you have to kill yourself

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