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News:
-More DD Kai2 on April 23rd (Mutsuki? Sazanami?)
-More informations regarding Spring 2015 Event:
+Indian Ocean Raid related (speculation)
+Start on last week of April
+Planned duration: 20 days (~3 weeks)
+Difficulty settings like Winter 2015 event.
+New Italian BB (presumably Littorio-class) and other new ships.

>> No.13326844

whch boat wud u rock ??

>> No.13326859

>>13326844
Wch boat wud u capsize?

>> No.13326948

Fuck all these little faggots leaving 1 sub in their idle fleets.

>> No.13328046
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>>13326844
drunk haruna

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>>13326948
I know right.

>> No.13328274

>>13326948
>>13328161
>can't be assed to load ASW on 1 ship
Yeah, you deserve everything you get.

>> No.13328322

What are the five greatest KanColle memes out there?

>> No.13328334

>>13328322
Levels dont matter, Wo lies, Re tells the truth, save bauxite for Midway, and liking Akeboner.

>> No.13328360

>>13328322
Five most popular as of recent consensus are Poi, Harunaslut, Akagi glutton, Burning Love, and Kuso TTK.

>> No.13328365

>>13328334
LSC chance gets better the nearer you are to an event

>> No.13328380

>>13328334
>>13328360
Thanks, guys. My Meme Research Society is going to be busy for a while.

>> No.13328873

I've been grinding at 3-1-1 for a week while sacrificing buckets in hopes to get kaga and I still haven't got her. Is the drop table a lie?

>> No.13329474

>>13329420
PvP is the cheapest way to level up BB/CLT/CA. Unless you use Hotels yourself, battle shouldn't cost much.

>> No.13329497

For those who have access to 5-5: Do you do the monthly? Why or why not?

>> No.13329562

>>13329497
I don't. I have all the blueprint requiring remodels, a nice stash of spare medals and I don't rank. Cleared it once for the feeling of achievement but I'm not willing to pull my hair over rng fuckups every month.

>> No.13329566

>>13329497
I did once, and I will never do it again. I consider 5-5 as a monthly event map.

>> No.13329592

Where's your /kcg/ faggot

>> No.13329637

I hope they make Shiden kai ni relevant one day, I don't know what to do with them and it feels wrong to scrap them.

>> No.13329707

>>13329637
It's the Takao among planes. Pretty good, but still irrelevant.

>> No.13329724

Makigumo is adorable.

>> No.13329728

>>13329724
Isn't she a war criminal?

>> No.13329731

>>13329728
>Following the Battle of Midway in June 1942, downed American aircrew SBD Ensign Frank W. O'Flaherty and AMM1c Bruno P. Gaido were pulled from the water by Makigumo. After an interrogation, the crew tied weights around Flaherthy's and Gaido's feet and threw them into the Pacific to drown, instead of keeping them prisoner until they reached Japan.

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>>13329728
She doesn't wear long sleeved shirts for nothing.

>> No.13329740

>>13329731
Shit happens. She's cute.

>> No.13329749

>>13329728

Nips were evil, more at 11.

>> No.13329765

You know, it's an odd feeling whenever the ships boast about their achievements where they sank whatever American ship.

It's like when I was visiting Florida, there was this Museum Ship, the Ingham I think, and the tour guide was talking about how it sank U-626 with some amount of pride, and on the inside I just kept thinking that the people on board that sub probably died horribly.

>> No.13329788

>>13329765
You're broken. This whole notion of "war is hell" is retarded propaganda pushed for bizarre purposes nowdays. My grandfather was WW II vet who fought all the way from '39 till '45 and he always said that it was his best time in his whole life. He flew planes, rode tanks, blew up shit, fought for Fatherland, killed people and generally had huge amount of fun. It was similar for most of his compatriots, by his words. He wasn't mentally ill or something, after the war he became a teacher in school and generally remembered as good and upstanding citizen.

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My first LSC in ages.

Sadly she'll be stuck in level 1 for a while since I'm stockpiling for the event Should I level her up though? I'm at 200k at all atm but I keep thinking RNG will fuck me so hard since I'm getting AL/MI vibes from the next one.

>> No.13329795

>>13329788
You Americans have it nice, the war was just an adventure to you.

>> No.13329797

>>13329793
Make her the PVP flagship, she'll be about level 50 or higher before the event starts with that alone.

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>>13329795
>Americans
Fatherland and '39 isn't enough a hint?

>> No.13329801

>>13329795
>fought from 39 to 45
>Fatherland
Clearly a master race German.

>> No.13329802

>>13329788
>The people who survived and became mentally broken & desensitized to murder didn't mind the war
>>13329798
>Also a subhuman
wow what a shock

>> No.13329804

Sorry, never heard about "Fatherland". But yeah, I derped with 39.
Anyway, war isn't something nice. Maybe in the past but certainly not WWII.

>> No.13329805

Hey guys

Kancolle

>> No.13329811

Got Haruna and Kirishima to Kai Ni, so they should be alright for event.

I don't have prints, Nagatos or Hotels,
so should I level Kongou or Fuso next?

>> No.13329816

>>13329811
BBV, BBs will be banned.

>> No.13329817

>>13329805
No
>>13329788
People come in all different strokes and WWII was a massive conflict that varied wildly. I don't think it's fair to make a judgement based on the experiences of a few.

>> No.13329819

>>13329811
How many medals do you have? If three, you could level up Fusou and remodel her mid-event with medal from E1/E2.

>> No.13329826

>>13329788
Ah yes, the German officers who would happily eat a dinner with their family few hours after spelling doom on hundreds of innocent citizens.
I wouldn't use them as example for what the war was like.

>> No.13329831

>>13329826
In fairness the war probably really sucked for the Germans towards the end.

>> No.13329855

>>13329793
If you have blueprints to get to her Drei, yes.

>> No.13329861

>>13329831
The worst part for him was lack of chocolate(not fatlord D ration tier chocolate, actual high-quality chocolate that was given as reward for good performance).

>> No.13329882

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ship_List_%28Image%29

Who is the first ship you don't have remodeled in your fleet? Why?

>> No.13329883

>>13329805
Can this.

>> No.13329885

>>13329882
What?

>> No.13329887
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>>13329788
>This complete horseshit.
That'd make some borderline sense if the grandaddy of your story was some dumb Canadian or Merrycunt late to the party and not one of the people whose
- whole country was bombed to rubble and divided by the winners like some spearchucker colony for decades to come
- entire state ideology and years of work and sacrifice crushed

>> No.13329889

>>13329885
The first entry you haven't leveled and remodeled in your fleet right now.

>> No.13329892

>>13329882
Nagato.

>> No.13329894

>>13329889
Nagato. I don't have her.

>> No.13329897

>>13329788
Have you ever thought that what you are saying is the propaganda instead?

>> No.13329900

>>13329882
So Imuya is the only ship not part of the original cast to have a blue background.

>> No.13329904

>>13329892
>>13329894
No Nagato club still strong.

>> No.13329907

>>13329887
>implying his granddaddy cared about any of that
He just wanted to be mlg and blow shit up then fly some planes before hitching a ride on a tank

>> No.13329911

>>13329882
Shirayuki because I simply don't want to remodel her

>> No.13329987

What are the odds of a Soviet ship?

>> No.13329989

>>13329987
We already have one.

>> No.13329994
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>>13329987
100%

>> No.13329995

>>13329987
We already have one but there's exactly zero chance for another.

>> No.13329998

>>13329989
As in actual 100% Soviet ships, if any.

>> No.13330003

>>13329788
> flew planes, rode tanks
so your grandfather is a battlefield character. That's nice.

>>13329707
> Takao
> irrelevant
It's like you didn't even K2 Maya and Choukai.

>> No.13330004

>>13329998
None, we get German and soon Italian ships because they were allies of Japan during WWII.

>> No.13330009

>>13329995
Not much fun in Stalingrad?

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>>13329987
>Soviet ships

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>>13329998
I will eat the soviet warships

>> No.13330028

>>13330025
lewd

>> No.13330059

>>13330004
Maybe we could have a lewd Finish ship?

>> No.13330092

>>13329987
>>13329998
>>>/WoWs/

>> No.13330098

So how many of each class (ex: 4 CV, 3 BB, 3 DD, etc) would you recommend to have ready for the event?
In addition, is there any level I should be gunning for at a minimum?

>> No.13330110

>>13330098
Recommend?
6CV 5CVL, 2BB, 4fBB, 2BBV, 4CAV, 4CA, 3CL, 3CLT, 10DD.

>> No.13330120

>>13330098
We can't tell you much if we don't know anything about your fleet, resources and goals.
But well, lv80+

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13330122

So close to finally getting rid of this stupid quest and Bongou decides to deal scratch damage.

>> No.13330128

>>13330122
I used 1stCarDiv and lost because Wo chuuha'd Akagi in green T. One more shot would be enough for S rank. This time I'll use Kaga + Kongou.

>> No.13330132

>>13330120
>>13330110
What if I just want to do easy

>> No.13330141

Say your 1-3 expedition comes back with 2 DD's unsparkled. Wouldn't launching the same crew be more time efficient than sparkling them again?

>> No.13330152

>>13330141
You swap in sparkled DDs. It takes half a minute.

>> No.13330166

>>13328334
>>13328360
>no 2-4-11

Also Wo lies has been discredited since last spring. Everything she said was spot on.

>> No.13330168

>>13330141
I only send teams with the exact same morale value or within 1-2 difference on expeditions in order to minimize wastage.

>> No.13330171

>>13330098
http://pastebin.com/4Wk2hy0B

I'll wait for the Ryuujou saga to resolve before I finalise the CV(L)s list.

Also levels don't matter.

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Did anyone sink Asagumo or Nowaki during this event?

>> No.13330176

>>13330171
>Also levels don't matter.
They do.

>> No.13330178

>>13330176
I fucking wish they did.

>> No.13330182

>>13330178
Try beating the event with lv30 ships then.

>> No.13330188

>>13330182
I beat spring 2014 E5 while on the wrong end of level scaling with a Mutsu that levelled from 4 to 27 in the process and a level 30+ Shoukaku, does that count?

>> No.13330204

>>13330182
You don't understand how RNG works, do you?

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3 times in a row.

Compass-chan please.

>> No.13330211

>>13330209
Post fleet and equipment.

>> No.13330214

>>13330003
Takao, i.e. nameship of the Takao class. The Takao Takao.

>> No.13330215

>>13330171
For the love of god stop spreading this bullshit. Levels do matter. You're probably one of those "my grandpa smoked till he was 99 and never had lung problems ergo smoking is harmless" guys.

>> No.13330219

>>13330209
Don't blame your incompetency to the cute compass-chans.

>> No.13330220

>>13330215
I don't smoke, I can't even stand the smell of cigarette smoke.

>> No.13330226

>>13330211
I'm already re-sparkling Kiugasa, so no SS.

I'm trying to do B34, so 4CA, I've tried with 2DDs, but can't S-rank the boss, so I'm trying with Mogami and Hyuuga. According to the wiki, BB(V) is a 50% in that fork.

>> No.13330228

>>13330226
>BB(V)
Just use another CA(V) or CLT

>> No.13330229

>>13330226
Have you ever thought of trying B34 with 2 CAVs instead?

>> No.13330233

>>13330226
>BBV
You're not supposed to use BBs on the north route. Use CA(V)s.

>> No.13330234

>>13330204
It's you who doesn't understand.

>> No.13330235

>>13330228
>>13330229
>>13330233
I only have Mogami.

Guess I'll try with the CLT, or maybe an AV.

>> No.13330241

>>13330234
No. The only thing levels do is slightly boost your chances of beating it.
As long as your ships are remodelled, modernized and well equipped you can beat it.

>> No.13330274

>>13330122
Equip her with 35.6cms.

>> No.13330282

>>13330274
BBs have shit accuracy in yasen anyway.

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>People getting worked up about the event
>Not just blazing through on easy to get the same shitty boat drops as every other player
Lmao it's like you nerds actually take this game seriously

>> No.13330291

>>13330285
But the game is only fun when there's a challenge.

>> No.13330300

>>13330285
Enjoy being second-rate kuso.

>> No.13330325

>>13330285
I want the extra equipment plus other rewards. I do just fine waiting for the common routes to be established and blazing through that way.

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>>13330285
The only things worth doing it on hard mode for are the extra equips. Epeen medal means literally nothing (oh wow neckbeards will think better of me, that sure makes me feel better, le not guso deidogu xD) while having an easier map to farm works wonders.

There's always the choice of doing hard for more screws/medals for blueprints or farm availability (at preboss node instead of boss) but of course with everything you just need to weigh your options and decide accordingly. Asashimo dropping at preboss in hard last event was huge which made medium worthless unless you were determined to farm Isokaze at E5 boss. Luckerdogs that got easy trophy DDs need not apply.

>> No.13330357

>>13330351
>Epeen medal means literally nothing
To me it means a couple extra screws.

>> No.13330364

When you screw your ships, is it rape?

>> No.13330377

>>13330351
>Epeen medal means literally nothing
This is what people said about regular medals when they were first introduced and had no purpose. It might not be the key to Yamato kai 2, but you can bet it'll be worth something in the future. Hopefully they learned from the last event and will made hard mode more reliable for farming as well.

>> No.13330384

What do you guys think about CVLs? Are they even worth leveling? I dont have many CVs now and just got Hiyou, she's so damn beautiful, I wonder if she can be good in the event. If it's any good for it I still have time to put her to level 40 at least.

>> No.13330388

>>13330384
You need some CVLs because they're used for branching. They're inferior to CVs period but cost less and unlike CVs can help in ASW.

>> No.13330430

tfw no haruna

>> No.13330432
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>>13330430

>> No.13330434

>>13330377
The difference between normal medals and e-peen ones is that devs announced the normal medals would have various uses and to keep them before they had said uses, devs are faggots, but not that much. E-peen medal seems more like an emergency resource safe more than anything else.

>> No.13330454

>>13330377
You can exchange current medal for 10k fuel or something, bretty gud

>> No.13330470

>>13330454
Not for the resources spent.

>> No.13330473

>>13330470
better than nothing

>> No.13330475

>>13330470
>yfw I beat E5 hard for less then 10k fuel and got the last kill on my first attempt.

>> No.13330580

H-how many buckets do I need for hard? Currently sitting at 400.

>> No.13330581

>>13330580
1k

>> No.13330588

>>13330580
RNG

>> No.13330599

>>13330122
I spent around 70 runs to clear that damn quest. Only reached the boss 3 times and retreated about 10.

>> No.13330622

>>13330580
1k

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>>13330622
>>13330581
Stop telling lies RO.
>>13330580
You can finish the event with 150 buckets!

>> No.13330700

Anyone got some nice kancolle 4chan mascots to share?

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>>13330700

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>>13330700

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13330793

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1860891?tags=parent%3A1860881

>> No.13330796

>>13330741
Why is she so perfect? I wanna spend a night with her

>> No.13330798

>>13330580
70 was enough for entire last event on hard.

>> No.13330804

>>13330793
Fumiwho?

>> No.13330817

>>13330804
>not whomuzuki

>> No.13330850

>>13330817
誰月

>> No.13330870

>>13330850
さみ誰

>> No.13330879

>>13330870
Severely underrated.
I hope her kai 2 is coming soon.

>> No.13330887

>>13330879
I'll make her come several times in a row.

>> No.13330889

>>13330887
Not if I do first.

>> No.13330890

>>13330879
Truly one of the most adorable

>> No.13331052

I'm not sure if I should continue doing 4 crafts a day until event day and if I do what I should craft. I already have 9 reppuu, 3 type 32 radars, 4x 46cm guns. Those are the important ones.

>> No.13331056

>>13331052
You can never have enough Repo.

>> No.13331058

>>13331052
More can't hurt

>> No.13331061

>>13331058
More of what? I can only focus on one area.

>> No.13331063

>>13331061
AP shell, sanshiki, air radar or more type 32 for support.

>> No.13331069

>>13331061
If you don't want anything, you can at least get more resources.
There's no reason to stop crafting.

>> No.13331070

>>13331052
What's your resources like?

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>>13331070

>> No.13331080

>>13331063
I have 6 AP and 4 sanshiki.

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Fuck yes!
Thank you Hatsuharu for killing green Ru flag despite being damaged!

Took nine sorties, in first boss encounter I only got A because Wo chuuha'd Akagi at the start and I lacked one shot. Changed the composition and got the win but when I was entering yasen I was ready for another fail.

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Any thoughts on who I should level up for the event?

>> No.13331126

>>13331119
someone you love

>> No.13331167

>>13331126
He doesn't have a single non-elite ship in his top 20, love is completely unknown to him.

>> No.13331174

>>13331167
But those two are not mutually exclusive.

>> No.13331182

>>13331167
It's entire possible for someone you love to be in the top tier.

>> No.13331191

>>13331174
>>13331182
Given that he has Tenryuu unremodeled I find this highly unlikely.

>> No.13331195

>>13331167
Assuming your shipfu is currently a non-elite girl -- what would you do if the devs gave her an overpowered remodel, making her S-tier?

>> No.13331196

>>13331191
Remodeling her increases her cost. If you use her as kindergarten teacher you should never remodel her.

>> No.13331199

>>13331195
Fap until I die

>> No.13331200

>>13331119
Why is Fubuki ahead of your starter?

>> No.13331201

>>13331195
Raise a second copy to remodel and keep original one as she is.
>>13331196
I knew you'd agree with me.

>> No.13331213

>>13330241
>No. The only thing levels do is slightly boost your chances of beating it.
So, in other words, Levels do matter.

>> No.13331218

>>13331213
Not enough for there to be something like a desired level to at like other games.

>> No.13331220

>>13331213
Until we can modernize evasion yes, they matter a tiny bit.

>> No.13331226

When are they going to introduce levels for abyssals too?

>> No.13331231

>>13331218
>>13331220
There isn't any "minimum" requirement in kancolle, but levels moderately stack with your chances to beat a map.

It isn't just about evasion, but accuracy as well. Compare how a freshly kai-ed but fully modernized Musashi and a lvl80 Musashi and you will see the major difference.

A fleet composed of just kai/kai ni ships will fare worse than a lvl 70-80 fleet. Anything past lvl 70-80 doesn't give any notable result however.

>> No.13331232

>>13331167
What qualifies as elite? Souryuu, Fubuki and Sendai might be Kai II, but they're all considered second line compared to Hiryuu/Kaga/Taihou, Hatsushimo and Jintsuu respectively.

>> No.13331235

>>13331232
>Hatsushimo
Hate to burst your bubble, but even if Hatsushimo has decent stats and great luck, she is still barely above average among kai ni.

>> No.13331236

>>13331232
These 3 come with nice gear.

>> No.13331237

>>13331167
Most of non-DDs are "elites".

>> No.13331246

>>13331235
>but even if Hatsushimo has decent stats and great luck, she is still barely above average among kai ni.
She fills Fubuki Kai II's role of AA support better, since both can make fairly good use of an Akizuki gun while still pulling their weight in night battle.

>> No.13331255

>>13331246
Hatsushimo is garbage tier. If you want to nightbattle with akizuki gun Fubuki is loads better.

>> No.13331259

>>13331246
Nobody is stupid enough to use mixed cut-ins.

>> No.13331262

>>13331235
Only luck stats matter for DDs, others stats are bonus.

>> No.13331263

>>13331246
good doesn't mean "elite".
Hatsushimo has 13 FP+Torpedo stats less than Fubuki which means her night battle potential is watered down by a huge margin.

As >>13331255 said, if you really want a AA CI DD wrecking things at night, Fubuki kai ni is much better than Hatsushimo.

Hell, AA CI setup ruins Hatsushimi main assets, her luck, since you can't combine night cutin and AA cut in. Mixed cut in also sucks in general, even moreso with DD.

>> No.13331271

>>13331235
What? Seems like you have some retarded grudge. Above average Kai Ni is meant to be something disgraceful?

Hatsushimo is one of three ships in the game with luck reaching torpedo cap. She's also the first choice for AA cut-in if one doesn't have Akizuki - better AA and evasion than Fubuki.
Also:

Official ranking of Destroyers:

Akatsuki [if you disagree, insert your daughteru]
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#1 Yuudachi, Akizuki, Yukikaze
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Ayanami
Shigure, Hatsushimo, Shimakaze, Fubuki
other elites
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Yuugumos
rest (including gaijins)
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Mutsuki cuties

>> No.13331279

Why are we pretending that luck and torp aren't the only DD stats that make any real difference in battle?

>> No.13331280

>>13331271
>2 point higher evasion
>1 point higher AA
Oh my god hatsushimo is so much better.

Get real. Fubuki has 13 point yasen power ahead of her. And Hatsushimo's high luck ain't worth jack. If you want to AACI she's going to be shit at night. If you want to torp cutin you're better off using Shigure or Beaver.

>> No.13331281

Remodeled Bismarck,Taihou,Choukai,Unryuu and Ro-chan.
Grinding is so boring.

>> No.13331284

>>13331235
I find that she's practically interchangeable with Shigure and to some extent, Yukikaze. I had no problem treating them as such in the previous event. Having them swap in for each other is useful.

>> No.13331285

>>13331271
>grudge
Hold your horses son. Since when I said something like "it is a disgrace"?
We are talking about minmax here, so of course you must be clear about the issue with Hatsushimo stats if you talk about elite DD.

By no means I said she "sucks" you know? Care not to jump on the gun too quickly?

>> No.13331288

>>13331279
Some guys are lazy shits who didn't Kai Ni Hatsushimo and now they try to understate her value to feel better about their weak resolve.

>> No.13331293

Hatswhoshimo?

>> No.13331295

>>13331280
You normally use more than one DD in fleet you fucking retard. I won't even comment on other things because your attitude says you wouldn't listen anyway.
Go ahead and cry about me running away from "discussion" if it makes you feel better.

>> No.13331296

Minmaxing a shit

>> No.13331299

Can't we just put our daughterus in our fleets and not care about stats
Amatsukaze/Murakumo are in my fleet and they are not very special
Love is a stat

>> No.13331302

>>13331284
I do the same, but the original subject was about "non elite" and "elite". Unfortunately for her, Hatsushimo is nowhere close to Fubuki, let alone Shigure.

Heck, even Fubuki is hardly called elite to begin with. That still doesn't stop people to use both as well.

>> No.13331308

>>13331280
>better off using Shigure
Even though Hatsushimo has higher luck and the same torpedo stat?
okay.

>> No.13331310

These are the only elite DDs in the game.
Poi, Shiggy, Ayanami, Beaver, Akizuki.

High tier:
Bucky, Amatsukaze, Shimakaze

Okay tier:
other kai2 DDs

Shit tier:
Everything else.

>> No.13331312

>>13331293
Still better than generic waifu bait

>> No.13331314

>>13331295
If i wanted 2nd AACI ship while not having Akizuki i would rather use Shigure. Sorry bro.

>> No.13331320

>>13331310
>Shit tier:
>Everything else.

Kill yourself.

>> No.13331322

>>13331308
You do realize that FP contribute as well for damage during night battle?
7 FP difference is quite huge when you are dealing with very high armor bosses like the Suiki.

>> No.13331325

>>13331285
So why did you use "Hate to burst your bubble" as if the anon was awfully wrong? He wasn't. Hatsushimo is an elite DD. Only four other destroyers can claim to be better than her.

>>13331308
I hate to defend that moron but you're wrong here. Firepower also counts for torpedo cut-in (so Shigure has +7 advantage) and luck cap for torpedo cut-in is 50.

>> No.13331326

>>13331302
Good luck with feeding maruyu to your Fubuki.

>> No.13331332

>>13331308
So we're going to conveniently ignore her firepower? Okay.

>>13331295
Yes we use more than 1 DD but if I'm going to AACI, I'm bringing Akizuki or Bucky. If I'm going to torp cut-in I'm bringing Shigure or Beaver. The only reason you should use Hatsushimo is if you don't have Akizuki and you want more than 1 DD to AACI. Of course we're talking purely minmaxing here so feel free to use her if you love her but don't for a second say she's one of the elites because she clearly is not.

>> No.13331333

>>13331310

God tier:
Starter

Waifu tier:
Waifu

Everyone else tier:
Everyone else

>> No.13331336

>>13331333
this

>> No.13331337

>>13331325
>luck cap for torpedo cut-in is 50
How does it work when you feed beaver with Maruyus?

>> No.13331342

>>13331333
Starters are shit.

>> No.13331343

>>13331325
>He wasn't.
He was. His sentence implied that Fubuki was inferior to Hatsushimo which is completely stupid to begin with.

>>13331326
I wouldn't even bother with that. The whole point is to have a dedicated AA CI DD. Trying to mix that duty with night battle cut in is just crazy considering the awful damage reduction with that setup.

>> No.13331346

>>13331280
Fubuki needs flagship assistance to reliably cut-in everytime. Hatsushimo can cut-in from anywhere, leaving the slot for KTKM or someone else.

>> No.13331348

>>13331337
You waste it. Torp cut-in maxes out at 50 luck. Mixed cut-in maxes out at 60.

>> No.13331353

>>13331332
Hatsushimo is outright better than Fubuki at AACI. You don't always need the lone DD to kill the boss (because KTKM-sama and her bitch are ready to bathe in glory) and you care more about getting to the boss in the first place. More agile DD with slightly higher chance of disabling CV Hime/Oni IS preferred option. And if you want to take down BB Oni you take all three of Yukikaze, Shigure and Hatsushimo.

>> No.13331356

>>13331343
Shitty damage / good AA cut-in > Virtually no damage / great AA cut-in.

>> No.13331358

What level is your Akizuki, anon? Seeing that they're saying we will need our carriers, I think Ducky will be valuable as well.

>> No.13331360

>>13331348
Why does it feel like my beaver cut in more when I feed her? Does the cap include FS position, flash light and flares?

>> No.13331362

Wiki says that the note before the boss in 1-5 lets you get to it on random without a specific setup, but I've been sent the other way 6 times in a row now. Does this mean that there's a low chance to get to the boss with 4 DD's?

>> No.13331364

>>13331343
He was wrong about implying Fubuki is inferior to Hatsushimo but he was right about Hatsushimo being elite - you only complained about second part and that's why I reacted.

>> No.13331365

We don't even know what each map will be like.

>> No.13331366

>>13331346
You don't use Fubuki to do torp cutins. You use her to do DAs at night. The point is hatsushimo can do one of 2 setups:

Ducky Gunx2
Air Radar

or

Torpedox2
whatever

If you go with the former, Bucky and Ducky outclasses her. If you go with the latter, Shigure and Beaver outclasses her.

>> No.13331369

>>13331302
You have absolutely retarded standards for what to call an elite.

>> No.13331372

>>13331362
It's random, but I'm not sure if it's 50-50, probably not. Just refresh when you get sent off course.

>> No.13331374

>>13331353
+7 yasen power with AACI setup on Bucky > +2 evasion and 1 AA with AACI setup on Hatsushimo. It's simple maths.

>> No.13331378

>>13331374
Learn how to read.

>> No.13331381

>>13331378
I did read and your argument is shit because you're making a huge deal out of 2 fucking evade and 1 fucking AA.

>> No.13331383

>>13331310
Shigure's okay. She's straight-up worse than Fubuki in AA, FP and Torp and barely caps above her in luck. She has better FP/overall night battle than Hatsushimo but caps far below her in luck. The three generally play the same role, though.

>> No.13331390

>>13331366
>If you go with the former, Bucky and Ducky outclasses her.
No.
Bucky hits stronger but has slightly weaker AA and less evasion. They're different in this regard. There's no superiority or inferiority here.

>> No.13331393

>>13331381
We were talking about minmaxing you cretin. When AACI is your main priority, +1AA and +2 evasion matter far more than difference in firepower.

>> No.13331394

>>13331383
>Hatsushimo's extra luck doesn't matter since luck caps out at 50, making Shigure, Beaver and Hatsushimo equal in terms of luck but Shigure and Beaver pulls ahead in terms of yasen power.

>> No.13331400
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>>13331358
High enough

>> No.13331401

>>13331393
Yes we're talking about minmaxing. AACI is her job but 1AA and 2evasion isn't going to do jack fucking shit where as 7FP makes her better than shit once you go into night battle which she inevitably will.

>> No.13331403

Is mixed cut in ever useful?

>> No.13331404

>>13331310
>High tier:
>Bucky, Amatsukaze, Shimakaze
>Amatsukaze
Yeah, this is a troll list.

>> No.13331406

>>13331394
Beaver's irrelevant, she doesn't even play the same role as the other three given her shit AA. Hatsushimo still outclasses Shigure in AACI.

>> No.13331407

>>13331403
Debatable for Bisko and CA.
Atrocious with anything else.

>> No.13331408

>>13331401
>I'm right because I said so!

>>13331403
Yes, on Prinz Eugen when you don't have to kill BB Oni.

>> No.13331412

>>13331406
Except that list wasn't just about AACI. It's about high ranking DDs in general.

>> No.13331413
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>>13331342

>> No.13331414

>>13331408
Yeah sure dismiss me with one throwaway line. You know you can't argue your way out of this.

>> No.13331416

>>13331412
And nobody debated Yukikaze's place. Shigure is worse than Fubuki in virtually every role due to the luck cap on cut-ins, and only comparable to Hatsushimo otherwise. Still doesn't change that Shigure's not an elite DD.

>> No.13331420

>>13331414
You're the one dismissing arguments.

>Hatsushimo has better stats for this role
>It doesn't matter because Fubuki has better other stats (irrelevant to her main role)!!!1

Kill yourself.

>> No.13331423

>>13331401
7FP doesn't make Fubuki kill CL hime with DA, faglord.

>> No.13331430

>>13331416
What the fuck. Shigure exactly hits the cap. She has perfect luck stat. Fubuki has miserable 17, she's useless for cut-in.

>Shigure's not an elite DD
Stop wasting space in threads with your shitty opinions.

>> No.13331436

>>13331416
>Shigure worst than Fubuki due to luck cap on cut-ins
I'm going to assume this is a typo and you meant Yukikaze. I structured the list as such. 2 of the best DDs in terms of FP: Yuudachi and Ayanami. 2 of the best DDs in terms of Torp cutins: Shigure and Yukikaze. 2 of the best DDs in terms of AA: Akizuki and Fubuki. Now before you go anal on Fubuki being the 2nd best in AA I know statistically she isn't but I already made my argument on why she's a better ship to bring in general for AACI.

>> No.13331439

>>13331423
And this 1% evasion will surely help against CL hime attacks, faglord.

>> No.13331442

>>13331430
>What the fuck. Shigure exactly hits the cap.
>I'm going to assume this is a typo and you meant Yukikaze.
Basing this on maximum possible luck, not on initial luck. Fubuki caps out at 77 and Shigure caps out at 79, both well above the cap.

>> No.13331452

Elite this, elite that. You kuso need to die. Even Maruyu and Yayoi can did E-6 summer just fine

>> No.13331453

>>13331436
>2 of the best DDs in terms of Torp cutins: Shigure and Yukikaze.
Fubuki has a higher torpedo stat and can upgrade her luck well into Shigure's level and above the luck cap.

>> No.13331457

>>13331442
Not the same guy, but why are you even talking about max luck cap, which is totally useless since cut in luck cap is fixed at 50 anyway?

>> No.13331458

>>13331436
>I structured the list as such. 2 of the best DDs
>My arbitrary numbers!

>I know statistically she isn't
>Even with my arbitrary numbers I'm wrong but let's pretend it doesn't matter!

Akizuki is Mutsuki tier in yasen yet she's the #1 choice for AA cut-in. Hatsushimo is better than Fubuki for AA cut-in. That's a fact. Just deal with it, it's not the end of the world, you can still fap to your precious Whobucky.

>> No.13331461

>>13331420
We're talking minmaxing. Fubuki can clearly do more than Hatsushimo. I agree that hatsushimo is clearly better at her "role" but 1 fucking AA clearly does not trump 7 yasen power when you look at the DD as a whole.

>>13331423
1 AA isn't going to shoot down all the fucking takoyakis either shithead.

>> No.13331463
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>>13331167

There's no room for love on the battlefield.

Lot of my favorite ships here.

>> No.13331464

>>13331439
Hatsushimo mix cut-in can, dipshit

>> No.13331465

>>13331457
Because both of them can reach the 50 luck cap, so Shigure's luck advantage is irrelevant with enough maruyu.

>> No.13331470

>>13331442
>Basing this on maximum possible luck
How about you talk about something remotely realistic and actually useful for players?

>> No.13331471

>>13331464
>>13331259
Why is mixed cut-in considered shit anyway? Doesn't it do more damage than DA? Given, it's worse than torp cut-in, but you can still use it while having an AACI setup, which makes your AA DD that much more useful.

>> No.13331474

>>13331458
And you can't seem to look beyond fucking arithmetics. Akizuki is so overwhelmingly better at AACI that her yasen power doesn't even fucking matter anymore. Fubuki and Hatsushimo are so close in terms of AA that you might as well look at their other strengths. Fubuki clearly wins in that regard.

>> No.13331475

>>13331463
You're wrong. Last event map is usually the only time where love doesn't matter.

>> No.13331480

>>13331470
33 Luck, less if you're married, is not unrealistic if your LSC luck is shit.

>> No.13331481

>>13331464
If you use mixed cut-in on Hatsushimo, then she has lower AA than Fubuki and becomes worse ate her 'role' so whats your fucking point dipshit?

>> No.13331482
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13331482

So if I want to hoard resources I should basically stop playing outside of expeditions, right?

>> No.13331484

>>13331453
If we're going to talk about using Maruyus then of course the whole list will be different. Poi will be the fucking best destroyer period.

>> No.13331493

>>13331465
with that kind of argument, any moron can claim shimakaze is better than beaver because you can feed her maruyu.

>>13331471
Because mixed cut-in barely deal 10% more damage and it is still luck based.
If you want to rely on luck, go big and go with torp cut-in.

>> No.13331495

>>13331484
>Poi will be the fucking best destroyer period.
No, can't AACI worth a damn.

>> No.13331502

>>13331482
No, you can also do your dailies with subs.

>> No.13331504
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13331504

Forget about the ever so slight advantage for a second.

Look at this thing.

>> No.13331505

>>13331481
The role of my ships is kill the boss and complete even maps, shithead

>> No.13331506

Oh and I just checked. Fubuki has not just 7 but 13 motherfucking yasen firepower ahead of Hatsushimo. This isn't even a fucking contest anymore. 13 motherfucking yasen power >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 AA and 2 eva.

>> No.13331508

>>13331504
Her face looks less stupid?

>> No.13331510

>>13331461
>when you look at the DD as a whole
I told you already. Learn how to read.
I never claimed Hatsushimo is outright better than Fubuki. I only said she's better at AA cut-in. Difference in firepower is fucking irrelevant here.
As a whole I consider them to be equal, as in >>13331271 They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Both are very useful to admirals. Which one you choose depends on situation.

>>13331474
>Fubuki and Hatsushimo are so close in terms of AA that you might as well look at their other strengths. Fubuki clearly wins in that regard.
Sure, torpedo cut-in which Fubuki can't reliably do.
Now fuck off.

>>13331480
99.9% of players will focus on other girls first.

>>13331495
She can. Not as well as other DDs but it's definitely possible for her to disable takoyaki Wo as she did that multiple times for me in Winter event.

>> No.13331514
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13331514

Fuck LSC, I just need one more Maruyu before event.
All those resources spent and I can't even get the consolation prize.

>> No.13331515

>>13331506
Fuck off you obnoxious shit.

>> No.13331518

>>13331504
What is that? Why you post blank image here?

>> No.13331524

>>13331510
>Sure, torpedo cut-in which Fubuki can't reliably do.
>Now fuck off.
She can't do both AACI and torp cut-in at the same time. Bucky can AACI just as well as Hatsushimo and her yasen with that setup BTFOs Hatsushimo. You fuck off.

>> No.13331525

>>13331504
Why would you post a potato in a thread about browser game?

>> No.13331528

>>13331510
>Sure, torpedo cut-in which Fubuki can't reliably do.
>Now fuck off.
We are comparing Fubuki and Hatsushimo for AA CI duty. Now, if we look for the other aspect of their duty, how are you going to argue that Hatsushimo will deal shit damage in yasen?

Fubuki can reliably AA cut in AND deal decent damage with DA. Hatsushimo can't and will have to rely on mixed cut-in, which is counter intuitive since she would have less than Fubuki in AA because of that.

>> No.13331532

>>13331524
>She can't do both AACI and torp cut-in at the same time.
And? So what? Where did I claim she can do them at the same time you illiterate retard?
We're talking about overall usability here.

>> No.13331536

I wish Parsley hijacked KTKM and Ooi. They deserve better sprites.

>> No.13331537

>>13331524
Fubuki DA can't do any damage to CL hime but Hatsushimo cut-in can.

>> No.13331542

>>13331536

Every character should have potato faces.

>> No.13331550

>>13331532
Overall usability with the AACI setup you dunce. Bucky can Anti air just as well and kick hatsushimo's ass in yasen and daybattle with the very same setup.

>> No.13331555
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13331555

People believe that Fubuki is better than Shigure?
Hilarious.

>> No.13331558

how can i setup hatsushimo for both aaci and mixed

>> No.13331564

>>13331528
>We are comparing Fubuki and Hatsushimo for AA CI duty.
Anon to whom I was replying wasn't talking about AACI.

>Now, if we look for the other aspect of their duty, how are you going to argue that Hatsushimo will deal shit damage in yasen?
I'm not sure about your grammar but Hatsushimo's torpedo cut-in is in whole another league of damage from Bucky's double attack.

>which is counter intuitive
Why? It follows the same logic >>13331506 this retard is forcing as the only correct one.
Mixed Hatsushimo has weaker AA than Fubuki but deals more damage in yasen. It's all about your priorities. You can't claim Fubuki is outright better. If anything, Hatsushimo seems better for extreme cases.
Specialized AA cut-in - Hatsushimo marginally wins.
Great AA cut-in with good damage - Fubuki wins.
Good AA cut-in with great damage - Hatsushimo wins.
Specialized damage - Hatushimo clearly wins.

However Fubuki is "usually more reliable" thanks to higher firepower - that's why I consider them to be equal.

>> No.13331568

>>13331555
If you take in account additional luck, then yeah she is.

>> No.13331571

>>13331555
Worse in AACI, Worse in Double Attack, Worse with Luck Modernization in Torp Cut-in, what about her is better?

>> No.13331572

>>13331558
1x akizuki gun
1x air radar/high angle gun
1x torpedo

>> No.13331583

Anyone got a miracle recipe for a Saiun? Getting everything from Reppu's to standard seaplanes but not a single Saiun. Hiryuu as flag btw.

>> No.13331589

>>13331583
scrap value x10

>> No.13331593

>>13331583
The old 30-60-10-110 not working? That usually drops Saiun like rain for me.

>> No.13331594

Anyone have the screw quest infographic? I had to reformat and it wasn't in the files I moved over.

>> No.13331598

>>13331583

I get nothing but Saiuns and I never get Reppuus.

>> No.13331599

>>13331594
There's indirect link in OP.

>> No.13331601
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>>13331594

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>>13331593
One-hit-GET, complaining to /jp/ proves itself more effective than expected.

Although to be fair my previous recipe probably wasn't the best. Thanks a ton anon.

>> No.13331624

>>13331564
>Specialized AA cut-in - Hatsushimo marginally wins.
>Great AA cut-in with good damage - Fubuki wins.
>Good AA cut-in with great damage - Hatsushimo wins.
>Specialized damage - Hatushimo clearly wins.

You just put this in a whole new light. I tend to min/max like crazy and I was wondering if we don't limit the candidates to just Fubuki and Hatsushimo would the following be the absolute best:
1) Specialized AA cut-in: Akizuki
2) Specialized damage: Yukikaze for torpedo cut-in, Yuudachi for daytime general damage and night time DA.
3) Great AA cut-in with good damage: Fubuki
4) Good AA cut-in with great damage: Shigure/Hatsushimo. With shigure edging out in night time damage and Hatsushimo edging out in AA by 7 points each.

>> No.13331632

>>13331372
I'm guessing overdoing refreshing might get me banned.

>> No.13331671

Should I stop running fuel and ammo expeditions and focus on bauxite ones?
Current resources: 91/82/81/40
Expedition lengths don't matter because I love my kanmusus.

>> No.13331679

>Kiso at level 60
Is 35k exp feasible in pvp in the next few days or should I grind her a bit in 4-3?
Resource saving and all, it'll eat resources. And I'm mad at my earlier run doing the daily when Ta crit my BBV to Chuuha and gave me an 11 hour repair.

>> No.13331680

>>13331671
If you only do dailies, Exp. 5 is more than enough to keep the fleet running.

>> No.13331690

>>13331624
Thanks.

>2) Specialized damage: Yukikaze for torpedo cut-in, Yuudachi for daytime general damage and night time DA.
Don't forget about Ayanami with Skilled Lookouts. I wish there were proper tests done, my anecdotal evidence of SL Ayanami proccing cut-in as much as Shigure isn't worth much and that Nip during mochi event only tested Poi.

>4) Good AA cut-in with great damage: Shigure/Hatsushimo. With shigure edging out in night time damage and Hatsushimo edging out in AA by 7 points each.
Hatsushimo also has slight advantage in activation of mixed cut-in because cap for that is 60. A detail but still something to keep in mind.

>> No.13331692

>>13331679
>Using a BBV in a non-1-5 daily
What were you doing?

35k is feasible, but it's hard for a standard CL to get MVP outside of sub fleets in PvP. You may as well just run 4-3 alongside.

>> No.13331703

>>13331564
>Good AA cut-in with great damage - Hatsushimo wins.
Not necessarily. Assuming non-flagship mixed cutin will have a 65% chance of activating dealing 2x130% damage.
Double attack has 99% chance of activating dealing 2x120% damage.
I'd say Fubuki still pulls ahead.

>> No.13331708

>>13331536
Ooi Kai ni is perfectly lewd. KTKM not enough so she is only good if you like that uniform design.

>> No.13331713

>>13331680
Got it. I'll probably get my ammo to 85k and then switch to 5/6/11 then.

>> No.13331716
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I want to protect her smile.

>> No.13331721

>>13331703
Mixed cut-ins cap at 60, it's 75% assuming no Yasen equipment and damage. In most events there'll be yasen equipment.

>> No.13331724

>>13331692
Will run a few then. And BBV is for ASW + 2nd phase (2x Red gun + 2x Zuiun).
I run ASW flag, BBV, CA, CL/DD (DA setup), CVLx2.
One CVL with ASW + Torpedo bomber and the other with Green/Red/Blue. A mix of enough firepower and ASW to S rank the south node if I ever get sent to it.
I rarely need to bucket, though a DD/CL missing an ASW attack can result in an A rank occasionally.

>> No.13331729

>>13331690
Ayanami with skilled lookouts is slightly inferior to Yukikaze.

Ayanami:
Yasen FP = 157
2x quint = +24 damage
1x lookouts

Yukikaze:
Yasen FP= 148
3x quint = +36 damage

>> No.13331731

>>13331703
By that logic majority of girls with double attack win vs cut-in. However, cut-in is extremely valuable vs high armored bosses.
Don't forget to take into account difference in stats of equipment - Akizuki gun has 3 firepower while Quint has 12, making cut-in more potent than it seems just from 130%.
Other than that, cut-in also has better accuracy than double attack but it's impossible to properly test how much does it matter compared to reliability of proccing.

>> No.13331740

>>13331729
Yukikaze often (if not usually) holds starshell though. In such case Aynami would be stronger. That's why I think it's best to include them both (and Poi for DA).

>> No.13331741

>>13331729
This is of course assuming lookouts puts ayanami's luck at the same level as Yukikaze and since testing puts the increase in activation rate at ~15% I'd say Ayanami will easily hit the cap of 50 luck.

>> No.13331743

>>13331731
>Other than that, cut-in also has better accuracy than double attack
With mixed setup you run the chance of shooting those horrid single digit accuracy non-CI torps, though.

>> No.13331744

>>13331514
It's not a consolation prize because you're looking for it.

>> No.13331746

What are the best equipments to improve for an event in general? And how many akizuki guns do you suggest? Right now I'm improving:

-AP shell to 4*
-20.3 cm type 2 and type 3 to 4*

I have 4 Akizuki gun at 10* and 1 12.7cm + FD for Maya.

>> No.13331759

Should I upgrade my 94FD to a 10cm +FD, or a 12.7cm+FD ? I have 0 of either one of them
I could theoretically make both, but then I'd get low on Screws.

>> No.13331775

>>13331743
Same with torpedo cut-in. It's a risk one takes.

>> No.13331776

>>13331759
Depends on which one you realistically would field more often.

>> No.13331777

>>13331759
10cm +FD for sure. You will rarely if ever want to waste Maya's talent on doing AACI whereas DDs will most likely take on the role of AACi and to top it all off, 10cm+FD also happens to be the best DD gun hands down.

>> No.13331782

>>13331759
12.7+FD is fucking shit since it counts as secondary gun, fucking up day DA. I'd go for 10cm+FD.

>> No.13331785

>>13331759
You can wait until the event and see which one will be more useful.
I would say there's 99% chance of 10cm winning.

>> No.13331786

>>13331777

>waste Maya's talent on doing AACI
>she actually loses FP when she Kai Nis

AACI IS her talent.

>> No.13331788

>>13331775
Except here the risk/reward ratio is much bigger.

>> No.13331792

>>13331777
>You will rarely if ever want to waste Maya's talent on doing AACI
If you're planning on using DA on Maya, then she's SIXTH choice for that.

>> No.13331800

>>13331632
It's okay if you do it in moderation.

>> No.13331806

>>13331788
Maybe if look only at yasen. However the point of mixed is having usability both in day and yasen. Torpedo cut-in is much stronger in night but mixed cut-in offers you very important AACI.

>> No.13331834

Should I do some minimum LSC in hopes of getting Maruyu? I only have two subs.

>> No.13331851

>Carrier-based event
>Not a single Reppu
>Only 1 Saiun
>Best planes are Type 52, Suisei and Tenzan

please send help

>> No.13331854

>>13331834
SS recipe for dailies, get Hachi. If you don't drop Iku by that time from 1-5 quests, do min LSC for Maruyu.
However, event is coming and it should be easy to grab Iku and Hachi from E1 (at least they should have better rates than horrible ones at 1-5).

>> No.13331868

>>13331851
I'll make sure to send in a support fleet full of Reppuu to machine-gun the enemy DDs for you.

>> No.13331869

>>13331851
Sounds like it's your first event. Just take it easy and do your development dailies.

>> No.13331889

Yamato plane is uncraftable.

>> No.13331892

What other builds and ships benefit best from skilled lookouts?

>> No.13331901

>>13331892
CA like Myoukou and Purin

>> No.13331909

>>13331892
DDs, CLs and CAs with... I'd say 30+ luck. That means Ushio, Ayanami, Prinz and Myoukou. Not that many.

>> No.13331917

>>13331889
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23562510

>> No.13331938
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Which damaged CG is your favorite?

>> No.13331945

>>13331892
Bismark Drei is great with 2x46 and quints.

>> No.13331953

>>13331938
Chitose Carrier Kai Ni's makes me want to rape her.

>> No.13331957

>>13331938
Nagara for that bloomer butt.

>> No.13331962

>>13331938

Poi

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>>13331938
What a babe.

>> No.13331980

>>13331938
Chiyoda and her hotel-class breasts.

>> No.13331987

>>13331974
No-bra?

>> No.13331989

>>13331917
500 bauxite later, not counting many dailies, still nothing.

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Complaining on here to get Kaga from dailies

Suggest a recipe

>> No.13332008

>>13331989
Try 10/10/250/250 radar crafting, I got two like that after 2 months of 10/10/20/20 and only one yamatoplane

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>>13332001

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>>13331989
Sounds about right.

>> No.13332020

>>13332008
20/20/250/250 was initial plan but I don't want to use too much bauxite before the event.

>> No.13332057

>>13332001
Do 3-1 A/D using the same setup as you do for 3-2 A

>> No.13332064

>>13332001

I got most of my carriers from failed Taihou attempts.

>> No.13332073

>>13332001
350/130/400/350 got me mine I think.

I also like 330/430/530/430.

>> No.13332090

>>13332001
All 420 recipe while trying to get Zuihou

>> No.13332108

So the carriers on the Indian Ocean raid were Akagi, Ryūjō, Hiryū, Sōryū, Shōkaku, and Zuikaku. Kaga was getting her engines fixed and didn't participate.

Just trying to get my ducks in a row for the event, in case there's any "Hope you leveled Naka!" branching requirements for this one.

>> No.13332122

new thread
>>13332119
>>13332119
>>13332119

>> No.13332126

How's the failure rate at 9/10-starring a T94 AAFD?

Worth using the guaranteed success slider?

>> No.13332128

>>13332108
I have everyone readied except Akagi and Shoukaku.

On one account the 1944 Indian Ocean raid was where Tone committed war crimes and the captain was sentenced for it.

>> No.13332135

>>13332108
I hope Zuizui drop rates are high this event, three of her sister last time did not help the kantai collecting.

>> No.13332136

>>13332108
I can see the Zuikaku/Shoukaku routing a mile away.

>> No.13332137
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>>13332108
You will still end up depending on Kaga the most.

>> No.13332141

>>13332122
Do you want to become as hated as /kcg/fag? Or maybe you are him, with yet another plot?

>> No.13332148

>>13332141
It's the /kcg/fag, he's the only one that would do another thread this early.

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>>13331938
Chiyoda's.

I want to breed with those thighs.

>> No.13332184

>>13332128

Come to think of it, there is no Abyssal CAV yet, is there?

Gonna have evil Tone as CAV Princess, calling it

>> No.13332229

3 reppuu and 3 shiden kai

am i ready

>> No.13332239

>>13332229
>shiden kai
Where did you get that? Ranking reward?

>> No.13332248

>>13332239
Shiden =/= Shinden

>> No.13332249

>>13332239
He means the +9 AA plane Kai 2 that has a similar name

>> No.13332251

>mfw the quest to clear 3-1 with Kagerou and her friends

Can I do this with them at level one using KTKM and a CV or something?

>> No.13332252

>>13332239
the same way i got my reppu

>> No.13332261

>>13332229
If certain event maps call for 3-4 CV(L)s like they did for AL-MI, you might need more.

>> No.13332262

>>13332151
I still remember the first time I got that damage sprite, it was glorious.
She's been my top CVL ever since.

>> No.13332266

>>13332248
I know.

>>13332249
I know.

>>13332252
I know.

Shiden Kai 2

>> No.13332270

>>13332251
Fusous K2 are best bet.

>> No.13332274

>>13332229
On easy you should be. Higher the safe minimum is 7 Reppuu+, to fill out two carriers with one slot for Saiun.

>> No.13332278
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>>13332262
Stunning body, and her sister too. It's extremely rewarding to get to see that after getting them through 4 remodels.

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>>13332278
I prefer her to her sister though.
Something about her childishly clingy personality contrasted to her voluptuous body makes me rock hard.

>> No.13332309

Kaga please give Reppuu

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>>13332278
Yeah, those level 50 final remodels sure are hard to get to.
Like 107 Flag + MVP 3-2A runs I think.

>> No.13332316

>>13332309
Kaga is for Ryuusei kai.

>> No.13332318

>>13332309
She eats them and saves even more for Akagi.

Other carriers lack skills to craft Reppuu though so you should stick with Kaga anyway.

>> No.13332321

>>13332309
hoppou go home

>> No.13332322

>>13331310
Amatsukaze isn't in the high tier, she's in the okay tier.

>> No.13332328
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DLsitekaze?!

>> No.13332336

Well, my autism high today.Might as well try to crafting planes.

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>>13332301
You and me both brother, I keep her sister as a regular seaplane tender for expeditions.

>>13332312
Junyo was my first CVL, I find her more endearing with her smile than hot, but I'd have to be blind not to acknowledge that she packs a nice pair.

>> No.13332343

>>13331851
Reppuu

>> No.13332346

>>13332343
Reppu

>> No.13332358

So we can all agree that Hatsushimo is an elite destroyer right?

>> No.13332362

>>13332358
>Destroyers being anything other than cannon fodder let alone elite

>> No.13332366
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>>13332346

>> No.13332370

>>13332252
>>13332346
Reppuu

>> No.13332371

>>13332358
Yes.

>> No.13332374

>>13332366
(So) Reppu desu

>> No.13332377

>>13332366
>>13332374
It's Reppuu.

>> No.13332386

>Forgot I needed 2 AVs for 36.
>Chiyoda wont drop now

FUCK. Is there a spot where she's more likely to drop. Every time I try crafting I either shit Chitose or some other ship.

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>>13331938
It's hilariously dramatic.

>> No.13332396

>>13332377
Reppū actually.

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>>13332392

bob really wasn't that great the first time around

>> No.13332405

>>13332386
I always find her while Orel cruising and hitting the boss node or periodically in 3-2A.

>> No.13332418

>>13330120
Probably just easy, medium if possible.
Right now above lvl 40 I have:
BB: Haruna 72, Kirishima 66, Kongo 49, Hiei 48
BBV: Fusou 44
CV: Kaga 62, Akagi 62, Souryuu 40, Zuikaku 40
CVL: Junyou 72, Hiyou 59, Chidoya 50
CLT: KTKM 64, Ooi 62
CL: Sendai 63
CA: Haguro 55, Maya 55
DD: Poi 63, Shigure 60, Hatsuharu 60, Yukikaze 50, Shimakaze 48, Hibiki 47

>> No.13332419

>>13332401
It's just really extreme compared to some of the other artists. While Shibafu's ships look mildly inconvenienced or slightly irritated, Haguro and Jintsuu are bursting into tears

>> No.13332430

>>13332377
Reppu?

>> No.13332443

>>13332419

Bob basically drew what would be Taiha art, while everyone else drew Chuuha art.

If a ship is at 50% hp it shouldn't look like it's constantly exploding like in >>13332401 >>13332392

>> No.13332445

>>13332430
No, Reppuu.

>> No.13332452

>>13332445
Reppu aru

>> No.13332455

>>13332452

Reepu

>> No.13332460

>>13332455
Le poo.

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>>13332401
Oh my, you reminded me of the cutest bobship.

If only she wasn't so wrongfully under-appreciated.

>> No.13332468

>>13332461

Literally who?

>muh qt Zuihou

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>>13332401
It isn't like bob was bad at first. instead, he changed his style, expecting something more gritty.

His style was pretty much the same when Kancolle started (pic very related).
He pretty much reverted back to his usual style for the kai ni.

>> No.13332471

>>13332461
I would appreciate her more if she wasn't screaming so much. Made me stop leveling her at all and later she disappeared from the fleet.

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>>13332471

>> No.13332479

>>13332455
Leppu

>> No.13332493

>>13332477
THIS. Fucking this. There's something wrong when you hate your ship getting MVP. A shame because she seems to have nice character.

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>>13332471
やったぁ、やりました!あたし、嬉しい!これからも、頑張りますね! is the cutest line ever, you philistine.

>> No.13332518

>>13332468
I have gotten TEN FUCKING Shouhous trying to craft Zuihou.
They were all used for AA.

>> No.13332522
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>>13332471
>>13332493
I mean come on, she's so happy and excited over being useful. Like a little puppy.
You people have no heart.

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>>13332514
The line is cute but the way she says it isn't.

>> No.13332546
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>>13331938
Best Kagerou. Best tactician. Best damaged sprite.

>> No.13332557
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>>13331938
Kai Ni for more Ugume ships when?

>> No.13332572

>>13332546
>Best tactician
SS hime when?

>> No.13332584

Inazuma deserves a kai 2 with torpedo and luck boost nano desu.

>> No.13332593

>>13332557
Hopefully soon, they are pretty badass so far.

>> No.13332597

>>13332584
>kai 2 with torpedo and luck boost
Like every DD kai 2 ever

>> No.13332603

>>13332584
It'll end up being a shittier Fubuki like Murakumo.

>> No.13332609

>>13332597
It's either that or AA.

>> No.13332613

>>13332597
Yeah, but she's earned it.
New night battle equipment would be cool too.
Or maybe high armor+hp because of a certain incident.

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>>13332613
What sort of incident?

>> No.13332624

>>13332613
>>13332620
No bully.

>> No.13332627

Since the other starters get triple oxygen torps after kai2 are they going insult Samidare by giving her quadruple oxygen again?

>> No.13332632

>>13332627
Samidare will get something like late model quad oxygen torp.

>> No.13332633

If I only have 1 ducky gun should I upgrade my next AAFD into another one or should I go for Maya's gun?

>> No.13332635

>>13332627
They'll insult Samidare with not giving her a kai ni

>> No.13332637
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>>13332627
Or maybe she'll get no equipment at all.

>> No.13332644

>>13332637
Bep and Sakawa, please go.

>> No.13332653

>>13332637
WHY

>> No.13332654

son with KCV, what does it actually mean when I get a penguin during development? It claims to know what item I would have gotten if I had not failed, but how do I minimize failures?

>> No.13332663

There's something about Samidare that just makes her so adorable.
Same with Satsuki.

They just have this cheerful, bright attitude.

>> No.13332665

>>13332654
You can't, unless you do 100/240/300/250 with BB as flagship, you get a wide variety of equipment.

>> No.13332666

>>13332654
Put more resources.

>> No.13332668

>>13332654
Sometimes the best recipe for a particular piece of equipment also has a high rate of failure. Things like ASW and Yamato planes come to mind.

>> No.13332674

>>13332654

Failures are better than 12cm guns you know.

>> No.13332688

>>13332654
Doesn't matter what you would have gotten if there isn't a more reliable recipe. As far as the end result is concerned, a penguin is a failed spin of the crafting machine.

>> No.13332690

>41 crafts
>1 shiden kai

I give up, thats enough baux wasted before the event. I hope I have enough planes now.

>> No.13332695

>>13332654
Penguins are good because you save on the devmat. It's not like you actually want to spend them on all the other useless crap anyway.

>> No.13332697

>>13332690
>1 shiden kai
Is that a new plane?

>> No.13332710
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>>13332690
You have to believe.

>> No.13332723

>>13332710
Is Reppuu the fairy or the dog?

>> No.13332743

>>13332723
The general pattern seems to be that the fairy represents the equipment and everything else is an accessory.

>> No.13332746
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13332746

Post a really cute picture that has shipgirls in it.

>> No.13332754
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>>13332746
No.

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>>13332746

>> No.13332759

>>13332746
Why?

>> No.13332760

>>13332723
Dog is doge, Reppuu is the fairy.

>> No.13332767

>>13332759
So I can save it and look at it while eating a sugary dessert.

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>>13332746
There are so many, I don't know which one to pick.

>> No.13332791
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>> No.13332801

>>13332791
I just shed a tear for this legend.

Best taste in cuties.

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>>13332791
Truly a gentleman. I kinda like pyon more, just listening to her makes me really happy, even if Im not sad.

>> No.13332809

>>13332791

Yayoi has a derpy face.

>> No.13332823

>>13332802
Tiny titty cleavage is the lewdest thing in the universe.

>> No.13332847
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>>13332746

>> No.13332864

Pick 3 girls. One to love and keep pure; one to procreate with; one to be your fuck slave. The fuck slave is sterile.

>> No.13332869

>>13332864
I'll just roll 3d151.

>> No.13332870
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What

>> No.13332876

>>13332864
Hibiki, Zuikaku, ro-500

>> No.13332899

>>13332864
Ooyodo
Houshou
Naka
I really want to fuck Naka's brains out constantly in her kai 2 idol dress.

>> No.13332904

What's the name of the night attack seaplanes and anyone got a recipe for them?

>> No.13332909

>>13332864
>one to procreate with; one to be your fuck slave
>cheating on your waifu

>> No.13332912

>>13332904
The recipe is a level 60 Sendai.

>> No.13332916

>>13332899
I want her to yell ARIGATOOOOOOOOOOO as I finish inside her.

>> No.13332917

>>13332864
I don't need three, I just need Kongou

>> No.13332919

>>13332904
wiki

>> No.13332931

>>13332912
Thanks, got it

>>13332919
>"He doesn't know what to search for but I'll just tell him to go to the wiki anyway cuz that's what /jp/-senpai does!"

>> No.13332936

>>13332864
Tenryuu, Kitakami, Z3

>> No.13332942

>>13332931
He knows it's a seaplane so he just has to look to the seaplane list and there's a seaplane called "night scout".

>> No.13332943

>>13332931
You can literally get your answer by typing 'night recon' in the wiki searchbar.

>> No.13332954 [DELETED] 

>>13332919
le wigi xD

>> No.13332956

>>13332864
Kiyoshimo, Iku, no need.

>> No.13332969

>>13332864
Samidare, Shigure, Sendai.

>> No.13332983

>>13332864
Murakumo and Murakumo, no need for the third.

>> No.13332989

>>13332864
Kiyoshimo, Shigure, Chiyoda.

>> No.13332995

>>13332954
You must be that same insufferable, illiterate, mentally challenged retard that keeps posting "le epic meymey" and other assorted garbage like that.

>> No.13333001

>>13332864
>love and keep pure
shigure. shes like a pet dog anyway.

>procreate
isokaze. shes still my fuckslave tho.

>fuck slave
hamakaze. i will punish her rude tits.

>> No.13333005
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>>13332864
Hibiki, Haruna, Tokitsukaze.

>> No.13333022

>>13332864
Hamakaze, Taigei, kaga.
I would do everything to kaga but her pussy, and then when she begs for it, give her pigs as her only option.

>> No.13333027

>>13332995
better take your medicine for autism faggot

>> No.13333033

>>13333027
You must be an expert on that topic.

>> No.13333039

>>13333033
:^)

>> No.13333047

>>13332864

Yamato, Hamakaze, Urakaze

>> No.13333049

>>13333039
Typical shitposter emote

>> No.13333050

Don't sexualize DD

>> No.13333054

>>13333050
Sexualize DD

>> No.13333057

>>13333050
But they're so cute.

>> No.13333069

Is it a thing to leave single high level DDs to help TTKs in PVP before event? I just won 4 in a row like that, this is just amazing

>> No.13333074

>>13333057
That's why you don't sex them.
>>13333069
That's what you should do all the time.

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I'm hungry.

>> No.13333308

>>13333069
That's just being a nice TTK, everyone should set their idle fleets when they're farming

>> No.13333347

I have 4 Type 91 and a 94. What should I do with these?

>> No.13333354

>>13333347
Either keep them or scrap them.

>> No.13333372
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13333372

Hit 200 buckets for the first time ever. Probably gonna be at ~400 when the event starts. D-did I do good?

>> No.13333374

>>13333372
Have fun doing easy mode.

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13333381

>>13333374

>mfw I'm going to be doing easy mode

>> No.13333384

>>13333381
This nigga gets it.

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>>13333372
Best to lower your expectations early on and not be disappointed. I might be able to clear easy.

>> No.13333390

Anyone else a heavy bucket spender?
I spend buckets on half hours repairs.

>> No.13333392

Can I still get Nagato on easy mode?

>> No.13333397

>>13333372
>>13333374
>>13333385
I cleared E1 Medium and E2-4 on easy last event after only 2 weeks of playing. I only had 50 buckets and close to this amount of resources. I'm pretty sure I'll at least be fine on medium for the first few maps.

>> No.13333403

>>13333392
Just LSC.

>> No.13333410

>>13333392
I got 2 last event on E-2 easy. I wouldn't worry.

>> No.13333418

>>13333410
Thanks

>> No.13333444

>>13333397
Yeah, looking back at my old records I started off the last event with about 9000/13000/15000/9500 in resources and 50 buckets.

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>>13332471
>later she disappeared from the fleet
That's some dystopic shit anon.

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13333530

I'm at 8k/9k/11k/10k resources with 140 buckets, will I be fine in easy mode with another week of hoarding?

>> No.13333533

I should turn my first 94FD into a 10cmFD right?

>> No.13333538

>>13333530
Just hoard everything.

>> No.13333562

>>13333069
>>13333308
>implying I care about other TTKs
Simply because I just halt all my sortie activities, and when I'm not doing anything I set my DD shipfu as secretary. Nothing to do with faggots like you at all.

>> No.13333586

>>13333562
I'm never away long enough to switch my fleets that often.

>> No.13333587

>>13333562
You're so cute

>> No.13333613

>>13333587
is that u satsuki

>> No.13333639

>>13333613
is actually dolan

>> No.13333642

>>13333639
Well meme'd good gentlesir.

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>>13333642
>>13333639

>> No.13333654

>>13333652
wat

>> No.13333662

>>13333587
Thanks. I'm pretty sick of these baseless accusation. If you actually need to put Oboro or some ugly DD as secretary to give exp for other TTKs then you can say him being nice. But if I just want to see my beloved shipfu more and you think of it as being nice is just stupid ignorance.

>> No.13333665

>>13333652
Please do not deform the boats.

>> No.13333686

>>13333652
Nanod- YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Damn it
Only 1 run left and I will clear 2-5 but my girls refuse to aim for the boss

>> No.13333758

>>13333697
rip you TTK.

>> No.13333774

>>13333697
Looks like you're not doing the event.

>> No.13333784

>>13333774
Nah
I would rather focus on my girls for now, need to Kai 2 Daijoubu and Bongo

>> No.13333785

>>13333774
On easy mode, the only thing matter is bucket

>> No.13333787

Event is months away. Devs say it's okay to LSC.

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13333791

I had zero buckets yesterday.

How am I doing?

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13333794

>>13333787
He's right you know.

>> No.13333795

>>13333791
Pretty good for a day.

>> No.13333800

>>13333784
>leveling ships more important than event exclusives

>> No.13333805

I want Harusame so bad.

>> No.13333812

>>13333785
On easy mode, bosses take more sorties to kill. It's possible to spend a lot less resources on hard than on easy if you get lucky. It's not going to be a walk in the park either way.

>> No.13333834

Can we agree that episode 6 is the only anime episode worth watching and that desdiv 6 is a heavenly gift?

>> No.13333846

So for Maya Kai Ni, an equipment setup of 2 main guns+25mm (Concentrated Deployment) + High-Angle gun will let me double attack at night while still allowing for AA cutins according to the wiki.

Is that optimal, or should I just max out the AA cutin with the 25mm (CD), Air Radar, and AA guns?

>> No.13333855

>>13333846
Apart from a bit more survivability or routing there's no real reason to bring Maya over Akizuki if you're not going to arm her for at least night battle.

>> No.13333865

>>13333812
Nope. My alt account finished last event with less 20k. Easy just being easy.

>> No.13333883

>>13333846
You also need a fire director to make use of the 25mm Concentrated Deployment according to the English Wiki.

8cm + 20cm + Fire Director + Seaplane will let you do shitty day cut-ins and still do AA cut-in.

Alternately, shell out the screws to make the fire director a 12.7cm HA + FD and go 20cm + 12.7cm HA+FD + Air Radar + Seaplane.

>> No.13333889

>>13333883
*need an air radar

>> No.13333917

>>13333855

Is not having an Akizuki reason enough to use Maya?

I joined right after that event ended.

>>13333889

On the combat page it says that Maya uniquely needs only the 25mm (CD) and another AA gun to cut-in. Not sure if that's accurate, haven't been able to test it.

>> No.13333941

>>13333917
>http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat#Anti-Air_Cut-In
>25mm Triple Autocannon Mount (Concentrated Deployment), plus AA Gun (any) and AA RADAR Radar

>> No.13333951

>>13333917
Only 12.7cm HA + FD worth it. 25mm (CD) is shit.

>> No.13333967

>>13333941

>Maya Kai 2 may trigger AACI with a unique setup:
>25mm Triple Autocannon Mount (Concentrated Deployment), plus High-Angle mount (any)
>Can be supplemented with an AA RADAR

>Can be supplemented

Maya only needs the 25cm CD and a high-angle gun. The RADAR is not required. So she can double attack and still AACI with the 25cm CD.

>> No.13333971

After a few days of grinding I finally got Ooi to Kai2 and Kitakami K2 fully modernized. I still wish Chiyoda would drop though.

>> No.13333992

>>13333971
How do you not get Chiyoda while grinding at all? You are like the anon who can't get Naka for some reason.

>> No.13334006

>>13333992
I got her a few times over the past few days but fed her to my girls because I forgot about 36 needing AVs, now she wont fucking drop at all. There was even a period where I tried to craft Kaga, and got Chitose 4 times in a row. She just doesn't want to come anymore now that I need her. I think I'll just take my DDs and torpedo dykes and farm 1-5 until she does.

>> No.13334077

>>13334006
Not him but RNG and your desire is quite strong, anon.

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>>13333992
Naka is olev.

>> No.13334143

>>13333967
What classifies as a HA gun? Isn't the 25mm triple already a green gun that's a "mount"?
I'm very confused.

>> No.13334206

Can I sleep yet?

>> No.13334207 [DELETED] 

I think it's about time.
New thread:
>>13334204

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>>13334139

>> No.13334213 [DELETED] 

>>13334206
No.
The fun in the new thread has just started!

>> No.13334234

>>13332633
Leave the AAFD at 10 stars until event starts. Wait a day and see if people say Maya's AACI is useful.
10cm is magnitudes better BUT it's quite easy to imagine a scenario where Maya's gun would come in useful.

>> No.13334250

>>13334212
This artist is fucked in the head.

>> No.13334264

>>13334250

KAN

KAN

KAN

>> No.13334288

>>13334250
I see it as an interesting take on scrapping girls.

>> No.13334308

>>13332864
This is a hard choice since I want to impregnate more than half the ships.

>> No.13334322

>>13334250
>put Naka to work in ketchup factory
>fucked in head

>> No.13334395

What happens when the devs run out of historical battles to use to stage events? Do we finally raid the Abyss hideout and meet their TTK? What will the final event be when the game inevitably shuts down? I hope the girl's ship souls and Abyss rest in peace so they can finally live normal lives as regular girls.

>> No.13334400

>>13334395

>Event attacking San Francisco
>Event attacking New York
>Event attacking London

you get the idea

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13334409

Why is it so hard to stockpile steel compared to fuel and ammo?

>>13334400
>not conquering china first

>> No.13334415

>>13334409
What, steel is piss easy to stockpile. And events need a lot more fuel and ammo than they need steel anyway.

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>>13334409
I don't know what you have been doing, ammo and fuel is harder to maintain when grinding than steel.

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>>13334424
>>13334415

>> No.13334459

>>13334207
Oh boy here we go again.

Reminder to report and request kcgfag to fuck off.

>> No.13334461

>>13334409
TE gives way more steel than needed.

>> No.13334463

>>13334395
They've mentioned planning for phase 1 and phase 2 of the game, so they seem to have some major overhaul in mind. It's going to take an extremely long time to run out, though. They can use the most minor conflicts and divide major battles into several parts.

>>13325559
Two days later, she ran out of sparkles so it can be nenohi again. Akatsuki, Isokaze, and Samidare took over.

>>13334409
You're not doing 37 and 38 all day, are you?

>> No.13334477

This is just sort of an question, but do ships feel kind of long to you? Like when I look at one of the old WWII Era Battleships, or a modern Destroyer, they feel like they've got a reasonable length-to-width ratio, but when I see pictures of a WWII-era Destroyer, they look like twigs. Really long and not very wide.

>> No.13334482

>>13334395
They can reuse them. Midway II or the likes.

>> No.13334486

>>13334395
>>13334400
>>13334409
>>13334482
What if we have to fight Abyssal personifications of the Little Boy and Fat Man nukes?

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>>13334486

>999 firepower

>> No.13334497

>>13334486
You would need to send at least 5 combined fleets full of girls to kill those monstrosities and it would be glorious. It can even be huge as fuck purely for show.

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>>13334424
Well that's the issue, when I'm not grinding (event stockpiling) fuel and ammo piles up while steel lags behind.
I'm not sure I have enough to patch my hotels up if RNG fucks me hard.

>>13334463
No but maybe I should start. I hate how the optimal steel setup is absolutely crap in terms of total earnings. I understand the inefficiency with baux expeditions since its not a huge need outside of Taihou hunting but steel is just too valuable given the need to patch your girls up. There are always the madmen who are willing to sparkle subs for ex3 but I'm not that kind of person.

>> No.13334513

>>13334207
Standard procedure everyone. You rage you lose.

>> No.13334515

>>13334477
WWII destroyers are long compared to modern destroyers because of technology. In WWII they're thinner to go fast while also being long enough to fit engines, weaponry and interiors onto them. In modern times you can pretty much have a much smaller but slightly fatter ship that can out perform a WWII destroyer.

>> No.13334533

>>13334409
It's impossible to lack steel unless you only LSC for two weeks or spam 10/10/300/10.

>> No.13334545

>>13334508
>I hate how the optimal steel setup is absolutely crap in terms of total earnings.
What the fuck.
TE are one of the best expeditions when it comes to total earnings. They're also pretty long and have base chance for great success.

>> No.13334552

>>13334492
wouldn't even matter
400 firepower or 999 firepower or 99999999 firepower, ships can only go down to 1 hp

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>>13334545
2/37/38 lags behind the standard 2/5/38 by 2.6k each day, that adds up very fast. 3//37/38 also clocks in at a similar rate.
That's not even considering 5/21/37 which hovers at around 5k~6k above it.

I think most people underestimate the gap between 5, 21 and TE.

>> No.13334572

>>13334569
That doesn't mean they're "absolute crap". Learn how to talk properly.

>> No.13334575

>>13334508
>>13334569
Nah, 2/5/21 is fine. Even if RNG trolls you, you'll run out of fuel and ammo first before you run out of steel.

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>>13334575
Also what the fuck is with this captcha.

>>13334492
Almost forgot about this, but I'm quite sure firepower cap applies to the opponent too, so 999 firepower would translate to 179 damage in battle.

>> No.13334587

>>13334572
No, the setup is absolute crap because the 2 "best" steel expeditions (TE) both have a greater income of another resource over it.

Maybe you should grow a brain instead of justifying mediocrity.

>> No.13334590

>>13334587
Just stick to 2/5/21 then.

>> No.13334592

>>13334587
And? You only use steel for repairs. If you weren't fucking retarded you would realize that even income from TE is far more than you need and it's fucking irrelevant to their value as steel expeditions if they give more of other resources. Stop being so autistic you idiot.

>> No.13334616

Did anyone notice this?
Depth Charges, Sonars, and AA Directors have an additional firepower bonus when upgraded:
★+1~3: +1 bonus to firepower
★+4~8: +2 bonus to firepower
★+9~10: +3 bonus to firepower

This just blows my mind. That would mean that DDs with fully upgraded ASW gear have just as much fire power as an Akizuki gun.

>> No.13334639

>>13334616
I hope the "additional bonus" means they do get bonus to ASW as well.
In any case, this means that upgraded Sonar is very good Radar replacement.
Another thing to consider is fact that upgraded guns get bonus to accuracy - it's probably the same for other equipment as well.

>> No.13334649

>>13334590
Yeah that's the plan, or 2/5/38. Its still fucking irritating when I stare at my excel sheet and no satisfactory answer comes back though.

>>13334592
Can't you read?
>I'm not sure I have enough to patch my hotels up if RNG fucks me hard.

FYI, shouha consumes 500+ steel on my Musashi right now which is 2 TEs worth. Including farming for trophy DDs steel is easily the most expended resource in events unless you luck the fuck out with evasion. My gripe with expeditions that there is no good, prime choice for steel when you need to stockpile large amounts of it. Maybe you should actually suffer heavy damage in an event before you talk out of your ass.

>> No.13334650

>>13334639
Check Akashi's Improvement Arsenal page. The ASW equipment get +FP in addition to the +ASW they normally get through upgrading.

>> No.13334658

>>13334649
I dunno, I run double TE +ex5 and both TE expeds give steel.
I usually need to switch one TE to ex6 or 21 because of steel overflow

>> No.13334664

>>13334649
If you weren't so autistic you would have a huge stockpile of steel by now because you only really use it during events.
That's what you get for not running TE before.

>> No.13334672

>>13334649
You won't need as much steel as you think, 2/5/21 is better. Even if your hotels get rekt sortieing will take up a lot more fuel and ammo by itself than repairing them. Personally I've never run out of steel before running out of fuel or ammo.

>> No.13334677

>>13334569
I don't remember last time I saw a little shit as entitled as you.
Oh boo hoo, you can't run the two most efficient expeditions 24/7 and are forced by the evil devs to run third/fourth most efficient expeditions. Horrible, it's end of the world!
Also, your chart reeks of scripting.

>> No.13334690

>>13334569
Do you sparkle your ships for exp 5 and run it with 5 ships? Are the chances for great success high that way since it doesn't involve containers?

>> No.13334694

>>13334677
What the hell is wrong with you. He stated facts. TE is less efficient. That makes him entitled? Next time you get BTFO'ed in an argument, either shut up and take it like a bitch or find someway to rebut it.

>> No.13334707

>>13334690
Yeah I do. I've experimented with 4/5/6 sparkled ships and the difference between 5 and 6 ships is so minute its better to just run 5. My own anecdotal experience has 4 sparkles at roughly 60-70% daiseikou which is too risky for my taste.

>>13334677
Game design that forces you to make suboptimal choices is irritating, news at 11. Should I need to worship Tanaka just to play this game?
You're right that maybe my chart should include misc. toilet breaks, neckbeard cleaning breaks, meal breaks, sleep breaks, etc. just to cater to your special snowflake schedule but unfortunately I'm not that great a person to do that for you.

Also
>trying for a moral argument after getting btfo in logic

Sure mate.

>> No.13334713

>>13334694
I wasn't BTFO'd in the slightest. Read my posts again if you fail to comprehend that. I never claimed TE are better than 5 of 21. I never questioned the facts but their interpretation.
He said TE are "absolutely crap" which is simply untrue. They're third and fourth most efficient expeditions in the game, while also being the most efficient expeditions when one needs steel.

He's entitled because he keeps crying about not being able to run one set of expeditions all the time and lashes out on anyone who dares to question his absolutely retarded standards of what is "crap".
See
>Maybe you should grow a brain instead of justifying mediocrity.

>> No.13334731

>>13334707
Grow a brain.

>> No.13334732

pattern 1/2/3/4
How does the enemy pick it's pattern? Rng?

>> No.13334733

>>13334707
>Game design that forces you to make suboptimal choices is irritating
See, after all you are capable of writing something that isn't retardedly exaggerated, even if it happened by accident while you were trying to be ironic. Now, if you learned how to do that consistently, there would be no problems with your posts.

>> No.13334735

>>13334732
Yes.
The only instances where it isn't RNG are maps with bosses, where patterns are based on your HQ level and/or if you're doing the final kill.

>> No.13334736

>>13334732
Ship type determines pattern.

>> No.13334737

Just how bauxite heavy do you think this event is going to be?

>> No.13334739

>>13334737
Somewhere between 10k and 50k. I'm hoping for 35k max.

>> No.13334740

>>13334737
Not really. 30k should be enough.

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Tell me how to use this thing plz

>> No.13334750

>>13334742
Ranking reward's out?

Hold on while I F5.

>> No.13334751

>>13334742
Give it to the pasta BB when you get her.

>> No.13334752

>>13334731
Great argument, should I start responding with memes?

>>13334733
Everyone has different tolerance levels. What is mediocre to me may be perfectly acceptable to someone else. Some feel that you can field Mogami class CAVs in events while others swear by Tone/Chikuma. Similar case with Kaga/Taihou and the dragons. Some feel that the cranes are absolutely shit for anything that isn't 3-2-A while others vehemently disagree. You also have those who will field hotels whenever possible while others insist that the Kongous are more than sufficient.

If that one faggot didn't jump on my post while declaring me to be wrong with zero evidence provided I'd be more inclined to be civil but alas there's no point in being civil with mudslinging morons. If I wanted to be "the better man" to garner internet points I'd be in reddit.

>> No.13334753

>>13334742
You put it on a ship and bam.
>tfw server is too competitive to rank

>> No.13334754

>>13334742
>so many bad stats for 20 damage

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>>13334742
>-3 Accuracy.
Why.

>> No.13334758

>>13334742
What the hell is that? new ranking reward?

>> No.13334759

>>13334737
Below 20k, just like Midway. Never believe Tanaka's lies.

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>>13334742
>eating spaghetti
This new ship is going to be a walking stereotype.

>> No.13334762

>>13334742
Wow what complete garbage. Same firepower as a 41cm AND negative accuracy? What the fuck were they thinking.

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>>13334742
>that accuracy penalty

>> No.13334766

>>13334762
It's just another 38cm gun

>> No.13334768

>>13334742
Oh wow. This is as good as 46cm proto upgrading to normal 46cm.
Tanaka is a master troll.

>> No.13334770

>>13334762
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNIT_15-50_m1934.htm

>superb performance had a price in that they suffered from excessive dispersion

Probably this.

Fit guns mechanic might make it so that they're only worth equipping on Italian BBs.

>> No.13334777

>>13334770
I don't think any kind of fitting bonus can offset fucking negative 3 accuracy.

>> No.13334778

>>13334766
How are those two even remotely comparable? The 38cm is actually good.

>> No.13334779

Just got Maya to Kai Ni, what should I equip on her?

>> No.13334780

>>13334777
+3 accuracy is worth what in percentage?

>> No.13334781

>>13334778
The caliber.

>> No.13334782

>>13334779
Either AACI or DA.

>> No.13334788

>>13334770
>The Model 1934 was extremely accurate and was able to deliver very consistent and predictable patterns with devastating hitting power - with the ammunition used for trials. Unfortunately, the materials and supply process in Italy works differently than it does in most other countries. In the U.S., for example, if one wished to test a sample of 16" shells, they might pull an example from stock, and inspect it directly. In Italy, the firm producing the equipment would have the advantage of providing the item for test, thereby possibly delivering an example which would be of atypically good quality with respect to serialized units. This was the problem with the Model 1934 - the firms producing the ammunition did not all produce projectiles of proper quality. [Admiral Angelo] Iachino complained about this in post-war books. Some actions showed a run of good projectiles, where others were plagued by terribly bad examples. Possibly the greatest contrast was seen between the shooting of Littorio in the first battle of Sirte Gulf and that of Vittorio Veneto in the 28 March Guado encounter. Despite the fact that Littorio was shooting at targets 32,000 yards away while Veneto was attacking at first Orion and afterwards Gloucester at only 24,000 yards, the Littorio's shot groups were significantly more consistent, despite the greater range, doubtlessly owing to a batch of properly fabricated 381-mm projectiles.
You could've at least red your own link. It's just Italians and their shtick all over again.

>> No.13334802
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13334802

>cut-off is around 1650 ranking points
Looks like I missed this month. ;_;

>> No.13334808

>>13334742
41cm with less AA, negative accuracy and negative evasion

I don't understand.

>> No.13334809

>>13334802
Where'd you get that list from?

>> No.13334811

>>13334808
Overweight

>> No.13334814

>>13334788
>possibly delivering an example which would be of atypically good quality with respect to serialized units
>the firms producing the ammunition did not all produce projectiles of proper quality.

Outside of specialised shell types, regular ammo is considered part of the gun in-game. I think the devs based the in-game version more on what it did historically, which is poisoned by the fact that bad ammo was supplied.

>> No.13334815
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13334815

>>13334809
From the site itself.

>> No.13334821 [DELETED] 

New thread
>>13334820

Don't let ourselves bullied out of this place.

>> No.13334829

The obvious troll threads like >>13334821 aside. Make sure you don't fall for fake thread like >>13332122 either.

>> No.13334832

>>13334821
Thank you once again for directing me to the thread I should report.

>> No.13334844 [DELETED] 

>>13334832
Submitting false reports will get you banned.

>> No.13334847

>>13334844
Thankfully they aren't false in this case.

>> No.13334851 [DELETED] 

>>13334847
Enjoy your well deserved ban, ignorant-kun.

>> No.13334855
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13334855

So did the nips ever comment on the part of the tutorial mentioning ship sinking mechanics?

>> No.13334856

>>13334821
Bullied out of where?

>> No.13334859

>>13334855
I've played for months and I still don't know if orange is safe

>> No.13334861

>>13334855
There are comments on the nicovideo. I only remember the one guy who said he didn't realise it was there.

>> No.13334865

>>13334855
But the interview

>> No.13334867

>>13334859
Departing on orange is safe!

>> No.13334875
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13334875

>>13334867
Wo pls

>> No.13334876

Fucking wo class shiterfucks goddamn

>> No.13334896

>>13334851
Sure, I've reported every single one of your shitty threads so far. Guess who won out?

>> No.13334938

Wow, I actually managed to complete 4-3 today, and it was super easy when I set up my ships properly. 4-4 looks like a nightmare that I'm not looking forward to though.

>> No.13334945

>>13334938
4-4 isn't that bad. It's even a weekly quest.

>> No.13334949

>>13334938
4-4 is only hard when you want to S rank it.

>> No.13334954

>>13334938
3-4 is harder than 4-4

>> No.13334956

>>13334938
I just cheesed all of World 4 with a sub fleet.

>> No.13334957

>>13334859
It is.

>>13334861
Which one? I only have http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21620327 and it still has no comments.

>>13334865
The devs decided to troll us since we didn't even bother to read the tutorial.

>> No.13334961
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13334961

>>13334938
I did 4-3 with Subs.

>> No.13334962 [DELETED] 

new thread
>>>/v/291136101

keep up the resistance

>> No.13334966

>>13334957
>The devs decided to troll us
Were there sinking tests before that?

>> No.13334972

>>13334962
>not /vg/
One job.

>> No.13334977

>>13334972
He's only doing it to troll.

>> No.13334982 [DELETED] 

>>13334977
Our threads have been deleted unjustly and without explanation. I understand his anger, we should stand up and support him.

>> No.13334989

>>13334982
I truly wonder if you have anything better to do with your time.

>> No.13334990

>>13334982
>Our
No, it's just you and your shitty troll threads. If Kancolle was a problem in jp we would have been forced outright by now. Take your persecution fantasy off to tumblr.

>> No.13334998

>>13334982
>we
Stop usin Royal We when you address yourself and only yourself, you're not some kind of celebrity.

>> No.13335000

>>>/v/291136101
>>>/v/291136101

Atleast /v/ janny is fast.

>> No.13335002

>>13335000
The /a/ thread he made is dead too

>> No.13335005

>>13335002
Looks like he got global ban.

>> No.13335013

>>13335005
'tis a good day, TTKs.

>> No.13335016

>>13334966
If I recall correctly, sinking tests were done as early as August 2013 event. I'm in the process of finding the earliest such examples; found some from September 2013.

The interview was from October.
http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/33814673.html

>> No.13335017

I think this is a good chance for a proper new thread.
>>13335015
>>13335015

>> No.13335022

>>13335017
Does Ban-evading make you feel big?

>> No.13335023

>>13335017
>no /kcg/

>> No.13335024

>>13335013
He's been evading for a while already.

>> No.13335025

>>13335017
Only the dead can know peace from this evil.

As usual, report and ignore.

>> No.13335029
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13335029

Stop pls, I need reppuus...

>> No.13335030

>>13335022
>>13335025
I'm not him, I just want to prevent problems.
We are on page 9 and over 600 posts. Give it a rest.

>> No.13335033

>>13335023
Sadly, people are not yet ready to face the truth.

>> No.13335037

>>13335030
Why can't anyone understand the concept of making a new thread when the old one is gone.
The page number doesn't matter when the catalog exists so stop using that excuse.

>> No.13335039

>>13335030
Don't cut stuff from OP. Also no one cares we are on page 9, there's catalog for that.

>> No.13335040

>>13335037
Just report and ignore.

Don't let his autism derail the thread.

>> No.13335045

>>13335022
What doesn't kill you make you stronger

>> No.13335046
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13335046

I hope this will be enough for the event.

>> No.13335047

>>13335037
yeah I know, I've been in these threads since they exist and at some point, before I knew it, making new threads was actually part of the thread culture itself. I'm pretty sure it's because we got people not accustomed to /jp/ en route, but we'll never know..

>> No.13335048

>>13335037
You are too old to browse 4chan.
Fuck off.

>> No.13335049
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13335049

>>13335017
pic related.
>>13335029
Atleast they're not bad planes.
>>13335037
Remember his computer freezes when threads are a couple hundred posts.


Back to the topic, is there a set date for the event besides the last week of april?
I just want my pizza ship.

>> No.13335052

>>13335047
You need to take a fev lessons in chan culture.

>> No.13335053

How did my fully modernised 70+fp sendai kai one shot a Hiei k2 in one DA?

>> No.13335055

>>13335052
I'm talking about a lower level, the thread - but please educate me?

>> No.13335056

>>13335046
>No cranes.

>> No.13335058

>>13335047
Fucking type properly retard.

>> No.13335061

>>13335037
>Why can't anyone understand the concept of making a new thread when the old one is gone.
/vg/ immigrants, they love thread wars.

>> No.13335064

>>13335058
Don't bother, he is just a crossie trying too hard to fit in by spouting board culture nonsense.

>> No.13335065

>>13334966
>>13335016 here, here's an example of one done during the summer 2013 event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Scn-eOYqNE

Nico has at least one test done in late July.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21465983

>> No.13335067

>>13335017
Where the hell are you faggots crawling out from? Worse than cockroaches.

>> No.13335071

>>13335053
Crits with good armor rolls.

>> No.13335076

>>13335046
Why didn't you Kai 2 dragons instead of leveling Akagi?

>> No.13335083

>>13335053
1.20 (Green T) * 70 (fp) * 1.5 (High Roll Crit) * 1.2 (DA bonus) - 95 (Hiei Kai II Armor) * 2/3 (Lowest possible armor roll) = ~88 damage hit x 2, more than enough to kill Hiei twice over.

>> No.13335084

>>13335067
>cockroaches
>bad
I'm bet you are one of those faggots who says that flying cockroaches is the worst thing ever existed in nature. What a fucking pussy.

>> No.13335088

>>13335076
Got dragons when my Akagi was already sitting at 99.

>> No.13335089

>>13335083
You forgot base +5 damage you should add to 70 at the start.
There's no such thing as high roll crit. It's either crit or not.

>> No.13335090

Only 3 levels for Poi kai ni...she refuses to attack anymore and all other DDs steal the MVP in 1-5
;_;

>> No.13335091

>>13335083
You forgot extra firepower from weapons, and the +5 damage from calculations.

>> No.13335094

Full sparkle TE without great success. Worst feeling ever.

>> No.13335098

>>13335089
Yes, but 40 damage+ hits are shown as crits even if they aren't, so I was just drawing the line between a High Roll crit (150% roll) and an overmatch crit (just doing 40+ damage)

>> No.13335099

>>13335090
Gimp everyone else.

>> No.13335101

What's a good recipe for Repo

>> No.13335103

Haruna's such a nice girl.

>> No.13335109

>>13335101
20/20/10/90

>> No.13335110

>>13335098
Ah.
Yeah, this can be confusing to newer players, I wish the devs changed it. I cringe every time I see someone talking how unlucky he was because Ru flag crit his Ryuujou or how amazing his battleship is for constantly critting enemies etc.

>> No.13335111

>>13335088
What are you even doing?

>> No.13335112

>>13335101
30/60/10/120 is decent enough.

>>13335103
But that's not how you spell slut.

>> No.13335121

>>13335046
You deserve it for your retarded leveling priority.

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13335132

>>13335112
Kongou please leave.

>> No.13335133
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13335133

>>13335112
I just have one Reppu and this is nightmare

>> No.13335136

>>13335133
Reppuu*

>> No.13335137

>>13335101
>>13335133
Reppuu

>> No.13335138

>>13335101
What's repo

>> No.13335139

>>13335132
Haruna wouldn't do that to Kongou. She wants to fuck her more than any man, just like her other sisters.

>> No.13335146

What's a good recipe for 10cm High angle guns?

I ran out while upgrading the Type 94 AA detector and need a few more to upgrade the thing.

>> No.13335149

>>13335146
You don't have Maya Kai 2? She uses those Chitose-class guns instead.

>> No.13335152

>>13335133
If you don't want anything other than Reppuu, use >>13335109. You will get mostly green planes (Reppuu and Shiden Kai2 included), some random trashes like seaplanes and tons of penguins (save devmats).

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13335153

>>13335133
>Complain
>Craft 2 in a row
Thanks vodoo gods of /jp/

>> No.13335155

>>13335146
10 10 30 10

>> No.13335158

>>13335153
Ask, and you shall receive.

>> No.13335170

>>13335153
Can I have a Yamato plane then?

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13335177

>>13335153
>Try crafting Reppuu after this anon for shits and giggles
>Actually got it in one try.

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13335184

>>13335177
Magic didn't work for me.

>> No.13335186

Why is Naganami's hair two tone?

>> No.13335192

>>13335184
I just noticed, is that a Shoukaku fairy?

>> No.13335205

>>13335149
Level 50. Not enough time/resources to grind her anymore since I'm saving buckets and pretty busy for the next few weeks.

>>13335155
This should give me plenty of attempts, thanks.

>> No.13335218

>>13335192
Not really.

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13335234

Shiden kai never

>> No.13335261

>>13335234
I'm not sure whether the devs will bother to add that plane into the game, we already have too many useless planes lying around.

>> No.13335269

>>13335186
She isn't the only one with two tone hair.
Their artist just likes them that way, maybe.

>> No.13335304

Any semi-decent drum canister recipes instead of 10/10/10/10 ?

>> No.13335310

>>13335304
10/10/30/10 ?

>> No.13335312

>>13335304
Do the weekly

>> No.13335313

>>13335304
10/10/11/10

>> No.13335316

You can only have one feature:

Ship locking
Regeneration
Very high LoS

>> No.13335318

>>13335316
Regeneration.

>> No.13335319

>>13335316
I'll roll 1d3 to decide.

>> No.13335321

>>13335304
No. Get a DD flag and watch your devmats disappear.

>> No.13335331

>>13335316
Something that's not very high los.

>> No.13335333

>>13335316
In order of preference:
1) Ship-locking
2) Very high LoS
Never again) Regeneration.

>> No.13335339

>>13335316
Ship locking. Unlike the other two, being forced to sortie your underused ships can be fun.

>> No.13335344

Why the fuck does PVP use so much bauxite?

>> No.13335346

Sometimes I wonder what Inazuma's gonna do with that extra torpedo she's got.

>> No.13335347

>>13335346
It goes in her butt.

>> No.13335349

>>13335344
The enemy ships take down your planes.

>> No.13335351

>>13335346
Win duels against DDs that are in elite mode.

>> No.13335353

>>13335347
No anon
It goes in yours nano death

>> No.13335357

>>13335353
Pegging is nice.

>> No.13335367

>>13334742
Well, at least it confirms we're getting Littorio-class and not Andrea Doria

>> No.13335368

>>13335316

I want lasers feature.

>> No.13335375

What's the longest repair time you've seen. I'm a scrub so I'm kind of put off by the 3 hours akagi is making me wait

>> No.13335384 [DELETED] 

>>13335367
If we get the name ship, that'll make a second ship that's ended up in the hands of the US.

>> No.13335391

>>13335375
Perhaps 23:50 on my Kaga. She very rarely goes taiha though.

>> No.13335393

>>13335375
24 hours on hotel.

>> No.13335396

How can I help with improving the new KanColle Wiki?

Is there anything in particular you guys think is currently lacking? After the migration away from Wikia we can now build the site without Wikia's restrictions, but at the moment the site is in a bit of a mess, since a lot of Wikia residue needs to be cleaned up or rewritten.

>> No.13335397

>>13335375
I think 30+ on Musashi?

>> No.13335403
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13335403

>>13335375

>> No.13335405

>>13335396
I have old wikia akashi improvements, quest, expedition, ship images and drop list open constantly. If those are fine, I think I would be able to move.

>> No.13335408

>>13335396
First of all you guys can work on making the site actually appear on google searches. I can't find it.

>> No.13335409

>>13335396
Consistency between different entries
and less cheesy translations sounds like a place to start.

>>13334742
woot woot fascist girls soon

>> No.13335416

>>13335408
Wikia has the ability to puff up their Google PageRank and Alexa Rankings. They probably have some kind of black market under-the-table dealings with the Google mafia.

It took Touhouwiki a long time to even get on the first page of a google search, and back then the Touhou Wikia would always be the first result when you look up "Touhou Wiki".

>> No.13335423

>>13335403
Same, only Nagato.

>> No.13335434

>>13335405
>>13335409
Would you guys prefer it if I got rid of all the fanwankery from the wiki that's left over from the Wikia? i.e. the "KONGOU DESS" lines and emoticons you see every now and then?

Do you guys want a more "serious" wiki (like Touhouwiki currently is), or are you happy with the same kind of "post whatever you want" thing as what Kancolle Wikia had?

>> No.13335441

>>13335434
Haven't been to Touhouwiki in a while but less epik maymay bullshit would be cool.

>> No.13335467

>>13335434
Did those things even exist outside of the shitty comment section? And besides can you even make that call?

>> No.13335485
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13335485

>>13335467
>Did those things even exist outside of the shitty comment section?
Pic related.

>And besides can you even make that call?
Probably not on my own, but at least I can discuss with the other staff members. I was made an admin not that long ago.

>> No.13335498

>>13335396
Go to kuchikukan.net and help us please.

>> No.13335505

>>13335498
Oh man. I don't know if I have the ability to juggle multiple wikis at once. I'll see if I can do at least something, but don't bank on it.

>> No.13335517

>>13335498
Why the hell is there another one? Decide on one and kill all the others.

>> No.13335524
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13335524

>>13335517
The one he linked only has 12 edits made within the past 30 days.

Kancollewiki has more than 80 edits within the past hour.

>> No.13335525

>>13335396
So has the migration happened or will it actually happen? I'm not willing to read any discussion about it but having 2 parallel wikis (or even 3) is retarded and wikia still appears to be more "up-to-date".

>> No.13335529

>>13335434
My eyes auto-filter bullshit so it doesn't matter.

>> No.13335535

>>13335396
The pages I keep up with most often are the recent updates by Kancolle on twitter, Akashi's improvements, 'elite' ship pages, game mechanics, equipment lists.

I also use the glossary for things like looking up the various artists. Not so much for memes, but those could be left as is or put into their own place.

I occasionally make use of the world and quests pages except on really recent updates where wikiwiki is quicker like during events or fresh updates (they initially separate new quests in their own table on the quest page, which is useful).

The wikia event page was useful when it was updated, since it's quicker to read than Japanese text as a quick reference.

FAQ I use more as a reference to point fellow players to.

I used to use the expedition page, but since the one on wikia changed to be less useful at a glance, I just use something like subway's tools or use wikiwiki.

This is a very minor and low priority compared to actually useful pages, but a few times I've wanted a page that shows all the current damaged ship art in one place.

>> No.13335541

>>13335434
We don't like the wikia. Please have it be a more serious tone.

>>13335517
>>13335524
It's a wiki that's been around for more than one year but is horribly inactive because for a long while there was a problem with the question you had to answer to create an account there. It was fixed only recently.

>> No.13335543

>>13335525
It's not something that's going to happen overnight. With the Touhou Wiki as a precedent, it will take time for the new wiki to settle down. You don't have to use it now, you can always hop over once it meets your expectations.

Having 2 parallel wikis is inevitable, given how power-hungry Wikia is. You need to understand that Wikia is a for-profit organisation that makes money through ad revenue, and they're very strict about anything that could potentially ruin their earnings. The reason why few people know about the migration is because Wikia forbids us from advertising the new wiki on the KanColle Wikia.

Back when Touhouwiki migrated from Touhou Wikia, many of the old admins were banned by Wikia employees, and new admins were made to replace them.

>> No.13335545

Takao/Atago kai fucking when?

>> No.13335552

>>13335543
Never knew wikia was such a dick.

How would we get word out about a new wiki then?

>> No.13335553

What's the best weapons for Poi kai ni? 2 reds and torpedo, 2 torpedoes and green? I have no idea how better she gets

>> No.13335554

>>13335545
Kuma/Yura K2 fucking when?

>> No.13335555

>>13335552
Here, on Himeuta, and so on.

inb4 >Himeuta

>> No.13335556

>>13335545
Akagi/Kaga kai2 when?

>> No.13335559

>>13335552
You don't. If the wiki becomes too popular, you can expect memes everywhere.

A lot of the memesters probably wouldn't like the new wiki though, it doesn't have a blogging function or discussion threads with avatars under each page, it's more like a traditional wiki, like touhouwiki or wikipedia.

>> No.13335562

>>13335543
Even World of Warcraft had that problem and they've moved for almost 3 expansions now, yet wowwiki is still the top search result returned by google despite how horribly outdated the place is.

>> No.13335565

>>13335553
Read the Combat page.

>> No.13335567

>>13335396
The sheer whiteness looks quite bland to the wikia one.
Most of my wiki use would be during events, and I doubt you'll be up to par when Spring event arrives.

>> No.13335569

>>13335559
Not a fan of when wikia changed the page discussion pages, very wikipedia-esque with discussion typically focused on the page itself and how to improve it, to a comments section, which is completely pointless.

>> No.13335577

>>13335559
The blogging and discussions do come in handy when compiling data for events/mechanics.

>> No.13335581

>>13335441
>>13335467
>>13335485
zh.moegirl.org has no problems with being un-serious; in fact it's even less so than the wikia. And it's still better than the wikia, although it has some serious gaps in the info.

Maybe chinks self-moderate better, I don't know.

>> No.13335584

>>13335581
Chinks are like Germans, they have a crazy obsession with ordnung. Unlike Germans though, they can't handle milk or beer, and their streets aren't clean.

>> No.13335590

>>13335581
What the hell is that site even for? A compilation of all things moe? Sounds like a breeding ground for epik maymay xdxdxd talk of the worst kind.

>> No.13335594

>>13332864
Kongou, Atago, Yuudachi

>> No.13335602
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13335602

>>13335584
>Chinks are like Germans, they have a crazy obsession with ordnung.
Have you ever been in a chinese bakery, been anywhere in the proximity of Chinese tourists or tried to find where the line starts in a predominantly chinese area?

>> No.13335604

>>13335525
Some editors are reluctant to move because they think they need to start from scratch with the new wiki, or they want reliable commercial-grade servers propping up the site. I don't know if these are actually valid points.

>> No.13335605

>>13335396
The pages I have constantly open on wikia:
World X (all six, hidden under back-frorward - would be nice to have some little menu with links to all worlds near the top like on wikiwiki)
Elite XX (all main classes (without retarded Aviation split), hidden under back-frorward)
Quests
Expeditions (old version of the page)
Akashi's Improvement Arsenal
Combat

I reference Glossary for artists/seiyuu from time to time and Recent Updates.

>> No.13335606

>>13335567
I get the feeling that the bland and white look appears more professional. I really don't like the push to fancy web 2.0 designs.

Wikipedia's front page has a smart look, Wikia pages in general look horrible.

>> No.13335617

>>13335606
This. I hate web 2.0 bloating up every site.

>> No.13335618

>>13335590
Moegirlpedia is a Chinese wiki that covers pretty much all topics spanning anime, manga, VNs, doujin culture, etc.

>>13335577
These things could probably work on talk pages as well. I guess people could at least try.

>> No.13335626

>>13335602
I get lots of mainland Chinese in my country and can vouch for their lack of mannerisms.

They are especially dangerous in packs.

>> No.13335629

>>13335604
>they think they need to start from scratch with the new wiki
Not a problem. The original Kancolle Wikia contents have a Creative Commons license that permits reproduction as long as proper attribution is provided. There's no need to re-invent the wheel, the new wiki can just use old content, but with newer improvements.

>or they want reliable commercial-grade servers propping up the site
Point them to Touhouwiki, and tell them that it's been running wonderfully for years, despite constant bullshit and dirty play from Wikia (e.g. fucking with Google rankings).

>> No.13335630

I just maxed Type 94 Anti-Aircraft Fire Director from 1 to 10 without failure, is this normal?
Also got myself an Akizuki gun.

>> No.13335636

>>13335590
>What the hell is that site even for? A compilation of all things moe?
Yeah, it is.

>Sounds like a breeding ground for epik maymay xdxdxd talk of the worst kind.
Seems like it.But from what I've seen it's still a lot better than the wikia.

>> No.13335642

>>13335630
Why not? I did that too before.

>> No.13335645

>>13335602
Mainland chinks are some of the most disorderly and undisciplined fucks I've ever met.

>> No.13335646

>>13335602
>or tried to find where the line starts in a predominantly chinese area?
Yeah. Move to Hong Kong, Singapore or Taiwan where people are a bit more civilised, and actually know how to form lines.

>> No.13335651

>>13335396
Link? I can't find it either.

>> No.13335653

>>13335630
>>13335642
You two either have too many screws to screw around with (heh) or you're both real daredevils. Try doing that with the 46cm.

>> No.13335656

>>13335651
http://en.kancollewiki.net

Remember, it's currently a work-in-progress.

>> No.13335662

>>13335653
I don't, I exhausted all my screws getting multiple Akizuki guns and some torps (among others).

I'll start on the 46cm when I max out the rest of my shit and clear my equipment clutter in the process. But first I'll have to buy some screws.

>>13335656
Thanks.

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>>13335630
She was just feeling generous.

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13335668

Does that path really exist?

>> No.13335678

>>13335668
Thankfully not, or subslaving would be that much more annoying.

>> No.13335680

>>13335653
Huh? I only use slider for upgrading to something new, not for 1-10. Upgraded two T91AAFDs and two 94AAFDs this way.

>> No.13335682

>>13335602
Mainland Chinese make the Greek look disciplined.

>> No.13335685

>>13335662
I meant that as a joke. Upgrading the 46cm is a complete waste of resources. Anyone who uses it would have likely maxed out their daytime FP already.

>> No.13335693

>>13335668
No, I'm not sure why they never fixed that visual bug.

>> No.13335694

>>13335646
It's too late for Hong Kong, too many mainlanders have already arrived.I'm moving out soon

>> No.13335698

>>13335680
And you've never failed? How many piece of equipment have you upgraded so far? I normally start using the slider past +6 since it's almost impossible to fail before that.

>> No.13335711

>>13335680
I only use that slider for upgrading something new if I feel like it. Slider will only be 100% used for something like upgrading type 1 AP ammo beyond +6.

>>13335685
I was completely serious though.

>Upgrading the 46cm is a complete waste of resources.
Not really, not only does having 2 of them at +8 or higher guarantee daytime cap for combined fleet in main fleet even in hankousen, its accuracy also increases as you upgrade them, which should at least partially offset the accuracy penalty due to overweight.

>> No.13335725

For the upcoming event, should I keep my expectations low? I only started about a month ago and my HQ Level is just 46. I've been trying to get at least a couple of ships in every class Kai'd, so I can hopefully handle the Easy maps at least.

>> No.13335729
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13335729

Who are your main expedition girls?

>> No.13335735

>>13335729
All the Mutsuki, both of the Tenryuu and Naka
>Arigatooooooooooooo

>> No.13335736

>>13335711
I had this written out so I might as well post this here given how relevant it is.

2x46cm (unupgraded due to insanely high costs) and upgraded AP shell will give 98 + 26 + 26 + 11 = 161.
Normal, single fleet gives +5FP which brings it to 166, becoming 154 postcap adjustment and 133 in hankousen.
Combined fleet gives +15FP x1.1 which brings it to 194, becoming 157 postcap adjustment and 152 in hankousen.

You're going to hit the cap no matter what.

And while we're on the subject.
For Kongou, 2 upgraded 35.6cm + upgraded AP shell will bring her daytime firepower to 98 + 19 + 19 + 11 = 147.
Normal, single fleet gives +5FP which brings it to 153, hitting the daytime cap and becoming 122 in hankousen.
Combined fleet gives +15FP x1.1 which brings it to 178, becoming 155 postcap adjustment and 142 in hankousen.

In conclusion, given how "fit guns" grant a bonus to accuracy while "overload guns" penalizes it, the Kongou class should stick to 35.6cm (Proto 35.6 is another good choice. -1 FP +2 Accuracy) in combined fleets considering how minor the difference in firepower is and should only ever consider using 46cms in single fleets, only to account for hankousen.

>> No.13335740

>>13335698
Yeah.
Only the ones I mentioned. I only started playing in late October so I didn't do weeklies that much, and spent most of early screws on Quads (needed them for event - now they help a lot on subs), so I don't have big stockpile of screws and only use them for dailies.
Other eq I upgraded are various guns but they are at +1 - +5
My Akashi is lv 53 already and I got her to Kai before upgrading AAFDs past +6.

>> No.13335749

>>13335729
Drum expeditions: Mutuski and Tenyruu-classes.
Other: anyone sparkled who meets requirements, priority in order of their resource efficiency.

>> No.13335750

>>13335736
Not the ttk you were replying to, but what about 41cm? I run one 41 and a 35.6 on my kongous.

>> No.13335760

I should stop wasting so many screws from dailies. Is there any good upgrades that only use one screw and minimal amount of resources? (And preferably is available every day of the week)

>> No.13335762

>>13335750
41cm is also overweight for kongou although the penalty to accuracy is not as high as the 46cm. If you have upgraded 35.6cms you should never need to touch the overweight guns again given how they both hit the daytime firepower cap.

>> No.13335767

>>13335760
35.6cm, AP shells and Quad torps are cheap and useful.

>> No.13335771

>>13335762
Sadly I don't have any upgraded 35.6, I assumed it wasn't worth it to upgrade any red gun past 20.3.

>> No.13335781

>>13335760
Subs will be very happy with +4 torps.

>> No.13335784

Does having low ammo affect the opening air strike's damage and accuracy?

>> No.13335785

>>13335771
They only cost 1 screw until 6 stars. At 5 stars you get 18 FP. as opposed to 19 FP at 8 stars and above so you can totally make them on daily upgrades alone.

>> No.13335791

>>13335785
Oh and don't forget that upgrading guns provide a hidden accuracy bonus as well and this goes all the way up to 10 stars. If you use Kongous there is literally no reason not to upgrade your 35.6cms.

>> No.13335799

>>13335785
The problem is, you can't upgrade 35.6 every day and Fri-Sun belongs to AAFD for dailies because on those days you can upgrade it with Maya who uses Chitose guns.

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>>13335791
I've only been upgrading 12.7s for the dailies for some time before switching to quad o2 torps, too jew and uncertain about what to go all in on.

Thanks for the tip though.

>> No.13335811

>>13335617
If the new wiki wants to be successful, they probably will have to pander to the idiots who are attracted to web 2.0 bullshit, and that means implementing those comment chat features that Wikia has just to appease them.

A wiki can't be successful if it can't pull a larger number of users, and they probably need to somehow make their wiki look "better" than the other one.

Elitism aside, the wiki needs the mouthbreathing shitters who like the Wikia features to adopt the new site, in order to survive.

>> No.13335819

>>13335799
It's up to you which you want to prioritize. You can upgrade AP shells on the other days. Those get +2 FP at 4 stars and +3 at 9 stars.

>> No.13335834

>>13335811
Can't they just repurpose the talk pages and purge them every month or so? It's not like people will talk about how to improve the articles on them.

>> No.13335842

>>13335811
Comments aren't that bad as long as some rules and moderation exist.
I want to rip out the throat of that guy with black av who's constantly misusing ellipses.

>> No.13335848

>>13335811
I want a retard-less wiki

>> No.13335853

>>13335842
Can you imagine how cancerous the comments would be if DMM didn't gate the game behind a lottery?

>> No.13335859
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13335859

What a faggot.10 hours have passed.

>> No.13335863

>>13335853
But touhou is fine and it's not gated behind a lottery.

>> No.13335867

>>13335859
Palau?

>>13335863
Touhou isn't getting the same exposure to the public that kancolle has had.

>> No.13335869

>>13335859
oh, sorry. Let me change back
Do you want lvl 1 Nowaki and lvl2 Mauryu instead?

>> No.13335876

>>13335869
>Mauryu
Is that a new CV?

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>>13335876

>> No.13335889

>>13335729
Mutsukis for drum expeditions, other DDs for expeditions 2 and 5. Any CL will do for expeditions.

>> No.13335892

>>13335876
yeah, she will be your next event reward, fellow shipfucker

>> No.13335896

>>13335892
>not shipfocker

>> No.13335900

>>13335668
It does.
Months, many months ago, I asked this exact same question and there actually was someone who only once went that way
It was supposedly some stupid combination of CAs, CLs and DD that send him that way, south to north.

>> No.13335903

Does anyone know what the Ise and Fusou's fit gun is?

>> No.13335904

>>13335867
Sukumo.

>> No.13335908

>>13335736
Oh, I don't use AP shell because it's done nothing for me. I use type 32 radars instead, which further cancels out the accuracy penalty. I'll consider the formula for if I do need AP shells though. In any case I still do plan to upgrade the 46cm cannons to max.

That said, I do think it'll be sufficiently cancelled out at level 150 (I intend to marry all my ships eventually). And even if not hankousen it still protects against chuuha, too.

>> No.13335910

>>13335903
Zuiun.

>zuiunrun.jpg

>> No.13335921

>>13335903
41cm

>> No.13335928

>>13335921
It's pretty weird since historically theirs are 35.6cm.

>> No.13335953

>>13335921
For real?

>> No.13335976

>>13335953
I'm just referring to what this said
>>13325805

>> No.13336011

Is Buckytorp any good?

>> No.13336013

>>13335928
Well, the Fusou-class did get a kai-2 which had the proto-41cm guns as default. They also historically had more 35.6cm turrets than Kongou-class. Same for Ise-class which is basically a modified Fusou-class.

Having said that, I'd rather see test results for Fusou-class as well.

>> No.13336017

>>13336011
I stick it on Orel-crew to free up a quint when I need it on other ships.

>> No.13336031

>>13336013
I wouldn't be surprised if 35.6 was their fit gun for normal and Kai while 41cm for Kai Ni.

>> No.13336170

>>13336013
>>13336031
Well guess what, Kongou-class Kai and Kai 2 have 41cm stock equipment. Other than special snowflake Haruna of course.

How are their default fit guns not 41cm?

>> No.13336182

>>13336170
I have no idea why devs gave them 41cm.
Fusous' K2 is fictional so I could see the change in caliber somehow work but with Kongous, I'm not sure.

>> No.13336188

>>13336170
Devs probably had no idea they would settle on the fit gun mechanic approach to BB balancing back when they gave them stock 41's. I would place it in a similar category with luck balancing making high luck above a certain threshold mostly pointless.

>> No.13336228

[returning player here]
Does sparkling work like it used to? Take a ship, strip it of its guns, then put it in 1-1 with other ships. Ship sparkles. Rinse repeat? The wiki was made it sound confusing.

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13336241

post best congo pics

>> No.13336247
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>>13336241
Haruna a no good

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>>13336247

>level 80 remodel

>> No.13336256

>>13336228
Flag you want to sparkle and one lv1 DD as escort. 3 full sorties without yasen, done.

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>>13336247
>>13336253
>cutest kai ni art in the game
>survived the longest out of her sisters
>pretty guns

daijoubu

>> No.13336260

>>13336188
>gimping luck
Why would they even do that.

>>13336228
>Take a ship, strip it of its guns
>strip it of its guns
What for?

>> No.13336282

>>13336241
no post best congo mascots

my browser needs to be more daijoubu

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13336289

>>13336241
おk

>> No.13336303

>>13335848
That's impossible, you can't have a wiki without retards unless it's a private wiki that only a few people would use because nobody knows about it.
A Mainstream game like Kancolle will bring retards no matter what, even if they're helpful retards

>> No.13336323

>>13336303
KanColle is hardly "mainstream".

You know what's mainstream? Call of Duty. Not KanColle.

>> No.13336343

>>13336260
>gimping luck
>Why
Make it harder to torpedo-snipe event maps. Make ships other than those with max luck above cap more viable. Giving us new night battle equipment to strive for.

>> No.13336344

How many of your subordinates have the abyssals raped?

>> No.13336352

Who here resupplies everything for 3-2?

I'm trying leaving off ammo resupplies for everything but flag in hopes of saving more for the event, but I want to know if other people do it during normal play.

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>>13336241
4u

>> No.13336362

>spam 30 times for reppuu
>All I get is seaplane bombers and a single Shinden Kai 2

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>>13336352
Nevermind, just did it enough times to realize that you can't sortie with 0 ammo. There goes my level quick scheme, I guess.

>> No.13336369

>>13336362
Reppuu incoming

>> No.13336370

>>13336362
Well come to RNG fest : the game.

>> No.13336374

>>13336353
that is not daijoubu

>> No.13336376

>>13336362
I spent 2k baux yesterday for a Reppuu and all I got were a bunch of shitty seaplanes.
And a ton of penguins

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>>13336369
No all i got is a bunch of penguins and this faggot

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>>13336352
>>13336366

>> No.13336392

that feelio when you have plenty of reppuu, shiden kai2, suisei, and ryuusei from one lucky crafting streak

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13336393

So about this CAV setup...from how the equipment is ordered, they don't seem to be able to do artillery spotting... or am I wrong and that the order of equipment is not strict?

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>>13336386
No

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>>13336376

>mfw only have 1 reppuu

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13336402

>>13336382
九九艦爆は、脚が可愛いのよ、脚が

>> No.13336410

>>13336393
Order doesn't matter for artillery spotting, they just arranged it so that the seaplanes are in the biggest spot.

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>>13336376
Yeah I just spent 4k to have pretty much the same thing happen to me
It took me almost 10k baux to get my first Saiun

>> No.13336420

>>13336412

>have 3 saiuns
>have no Kaga

pls

>> No.13336421

>>13336412
Really? I did two in a row when I first tried the recipe

>> No.13336522

wich can this wud u fug

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>>13336522

>> No.13336530

>>13336522
prob hotel no.1

>> No.13336535

>>13336522
shimabutt

>> No.13336536

>>13336522
Urakaze

>> No.13336537

>>13336527
Both of them?

>> No.13336548
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13336548

Why is she so perfect?
I wish to ejaculate into her swimsuit and make her wear it.

>> No.13336555

>>13336548
Why not just ejaculate into it while she's wearing it?

>> No.13336563

>>13336555
That would be doing lewd things with the Maruyu.
You do not do lewd things directly to the Maruyu, you ejaculate into her swimsuit without her knowing and watch her confused troubled expression as she puts it on and gets covered in your hot sticky baby seed.

>> No.13336564

>>13336555

I can see why he'd want to make her wear it instead. The look on her face as she sees what is inside her swimsuit and knowing that she has to put it on. The faces she makes while she slowly puts it on and feels everything.

>> No.13336565

>>13336548
I just want to slap her violently. She's too weak to fight back.

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>>13336565
Physical violence is allowed.
I use her for 2-3 spamming, all in hope of seeing her damaged CG.
It's the only thing that keeps me sane.

>> No.13336571

>>13336548
>>13336555
>>13336563
>>13336564
>>13336565
>>13336569

Pls do not bully the Maruyu

>> No.13336573

>>13336569
I can't help but feel sorry for her in that state.

>> No.13336596

anons what's your method of doing the world 3 and 4 weeklies

I haven't tried yet

>> No.13336613

>>13336596
3-3.
4-2 with subs. If you don't have 5 subs, doing normal 4-1 sortie is probably best bet, it's an easy map.

>> No.13336620

Oh god I have 100/100 kanmusus and I'm running a map. What if something rare was to drop? I'll never know now.

>> No.13336631

>>13336620
That happened to me on the 2-5 final kill. I'll never know if I got Akashi or Taigei.

>> No.13336634

>>13336620
Nagato wanted to meet you.

>> No.13336648

>>13336631
>>13336620
I can never bring myself to finish a map if I'm full on ships and there's a rare drop I want from it.
I always back out and proceed to get destroyers only in the next run.

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13336650

Where the fuck is Kinugasa? muh quests

>> No.13336659

>>13336256
thanks m8

>> No.13336665

>>13336650
I think she's a rare drop from some maps, I'm not sure how rare she is and what maps though.
You can also get her from construction like I did I got her twice in a row from BB recipes

>> No.13336667

>Scrap equipment 24 times

Clank clank clank

>> No.13336674

>>13336667
Doing them one by one is fucking stupid. I assume it's the easiest thing to fix, but they never did and the same goes to the resupply daily.

>> No.13336686

Is the kuma class the one with the greatest... I don't know, discongruity(?) in terms of designs?

Disharmonious? Ununified? Dissimilitude? There's a word that doesn't sound stupid and actually is a word I'm sure.

>> No.13336693

>>13336686
I know what are you trying to say and yes.
The ayanamis are also pretty different too.
I don't know if it's because of the shoehorned shibafu designs in there, or that they didn't decide on an artist to do the whole class.

>> No.13336700

>>13336674
The idiot devs have to make everything as tedious and as time consuming as possible

>> No.13336703

It's surprising but Akitsumaru + BBV consistently sends you to the first flagship Ta node on 4-3. Three days in a row getting routed to it..

>> No.13336705

>>13336596
not doing them

>> No.13336711

With expeditions do you sparkle the whole fleet or only the flag ship for great success?

>> No.13336718

>>13336711
It's all in the wiki. Each sparkle gives 16%chance for a great success.

>> No.13336734

>>13336718
Except for dum carrying expeditions, which just act funky all around.

>> No.13336737

>>13336527
Is Ooi really that pissed that Kitakami-san is eating? Kami-sama thats psycho.

>> No.13336741

>>13336522
Yuudachi.

>> No.13336743

>>13336737

She wants to lick the ice cream off her nose.

>> No.13336747

>>13336734
Yeah I was specifically talking about 21, 37, 38. I just got great success without sparkling on 21.

>> No.13336765

>>13336747

The drum expeditions can always have great success without any sparkling.

It's why I don't bother.

>> No.13336769

>>13336747
It has a base chance for great success of about 50%.
With 3 sparkles I get great success most of the time.
With 4 sparkles it has yet to fail to give me great success.

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13336824

>choose another CA to level after Choukai and Myoukou
>only realize she's the one you don't need for the monthly quest when she already hit level 55...

Well, at least she wins on the cuteness side of things.

>> No.13336827

>>13336824
She's the best sister

>> No.13336837

>>13336824
You can still use her for 2-5 monthly. I feel wrong sending her sisters without her.

>> No.13336838

Who's your favorite meatshield?

>> No.13336841

>>13336838
Maruyu

>> No.13336851

>>13336824
I have never done that quest without her.

>> No.13336855

>>13336838
Whatever level 1 DD I have at hand to sink
I sink 10 every week out of hatred for flatshits
RNG had learned to fear me during events.

>> No.13336857

>>13336851
I only did 3 with her.

>> No.13336866

When are the Kagerous getting Kai 2? I'm tired of leveling these nobody destroyers. Give the biggest, best, and my personally most leveled class some love.

>> No.13336868

>>13336855
youre so cool

>> No.13336870

>>13336855
You are directly supplying the enemy with new recruits. You are the reason behind them being never ending.

>> No.13336874

>>13336855
Careful lest you cut yourself on your flat edge there, good sir.

>> No.13336875

Please don't tell me I'm not the only one with a Hatseharu go to BB.

>> No.13336877

>>13336868
I know.
I am the goddess of victory for the large breasted.

>>13336870
I only supply them DDs, not like ten, hundred or a million more of them make any difference whatsoever.

>> No.13336879

>>13336868
>>13336870
>>13336874
Stop responding to the obvious samefag. It had been on it for like 2 weeks yet you still pay him attention

>> No.13336880

>>13336855
Why are you sinking perfectly scrapeable lolis? That's a waste.

>> No.13336884

>>13336879
Where's that go to sleep pic when I need it. I can't even into posting

>> No.13336885

>>13336879
It's sad that this thread so full of newfags that nobody even knows my name anymore, despite it being so obvious.

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>>13336875
wat

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13336892

>>13336884

>> No.13336902

>>13336885
Go away, cunt

>> No.13336904

>>13336892
Just one more sortie
Just a few more dice rolls for reppu

>> No.13336910
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>>13336904
This actually goes for me too

>> No.13336923

>>13336902
Go away, newfag

>>13336880
My hatred for flatshits is much greater than my desire for optimization and min-maxing. Besides, I'm at 300k all.

>> No.13336927

What does the range stat do on radar if it doesn't even change shelling order?

>> No.13336936

>>13336927
It's not range, it's LOS.

>> No.13336942

>>13336866
Unofficial Kai 2 status for trophy ships:
Kagerou class: never.
Yuugumo class: neverer.
Agano class: neverest.

>> No.13336949

>>13336942
Ducky?

>> No.13336956

>>13336949
After Yuugumo, before Agano.

>> No.13336963

>>13336942
I think Kagerou class is next on the kai 2 list, specifically the non rare Kagerou girls.

>> No.13336966
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13336966

I dream of a day when my Mutsukis will be able to see actual combat.

>> No.13336967

>>13336963
W-Will my Shiranui become a beast?

>> No.13336973

>>13336963
When will Yahagi get her well-deserved kai 2? She's the cutest trophy.

>> No.13336978

>>13336966

World of Warships has taught me that the Mutsukis were utter dogshit.

>> No.13336999

>>13336978
World of Warships has taught me that WG hates good games.

>> No.13337004

>>13336978
>>13336999
Your posts taught me that you're both fags.

>> No.13337008

>>13336978
A look at their stats would've done the same.

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>>13336967
Yes.

>> No.13337024

>>13336999
Why would you trust WG? All they do is have massive bias towards Russia and otherwise completely ruins their games. And yet they still rake in tons of money.

>> No.13337034

Wait till WarThunder introduces warships.

>> No.13337038

>>13337024
WoWS was a pretty good game during the alpha, then they decided to "balance" the game around the most retarded and unskilled part of their playerbase.

I lived the same during WoT beta, I did it with you /jp/, and this time, like a battered wife, I though things would be different.

>> No.13337050

Should I level a second kitakami?

>> No.13337061

>>13337050
No

>> No.13337064

>>13337050
I did because I was bored.

>> No.13337067

>>13337023

>hitman JK
>kai ni never

why live

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Only 32 more runs for Myoukou and then only another 40 for Ashigara... yay!

So much ...fun.

>> No.13337107

>>13337098
I fear the day I return to 3-2. All the DD/CL leveling objectives got bumped up in priority once I started 4-3. I fear the day I return to 3-2.

>> No.13337113

>>13337098
That 65 to 70 stretch is physically painful.

>> No.13337125

I am so glad I never need to go back to 3-2
I always get everyone to kai 2 level before they add more ships just by PVP and have room to spare.

>> No.13337138

>>13337113
I still wonder how the hell I managed to get Jun'you to Kai 2 just from running 1-5.

Also holy fuck my Maruyu just crit some elite DD for 34 and ruined the MVP. Why did I bother to kai her?

>> No.13337146

>>13337138
You only kai her when it's time to feed someone.

>> No.13337152

>>13337146
I think I felt sentimental because she's my first Maruyu. I will most likely just keep her.
Now her clones on the other hand...

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Dear game: I never want to level boats I hate again, please allow Hatsushimo for modernizing AAFD into the ducky gun, thanks.

>> No.13337210

>>13337178
Try leveling hatsuharu.

>> No.13337241

>>13337178
I know that feel of Orel being the only thing that's keeping you sane.

Did Ayanami, Fubuki, Shigure, Sendai, Jintsuu and Yuudachi earlier this month.
I feel 5-1 and 4-3 were still better than 3-2A.

>> No.13337262

>>13337210
But what if I like Hatsuharu?

>> No.13337265

>>13337262
sink yourself

>> No.13337283

>>13337178
I'm gonna buy off Akashi and get the extra screws to turn a '91 into a Ducky Gun

>> No.13337297

>>13337283
Just farm them like a normal TTK.

>> No.13337300

>>13337265
Are you saying I can't like what you hate?

>> No.13337315

>>13337313
>>13337313
>>13337313

Archived soon.

>> No.13337329

>>13337210
Nigga you talking shit about Hatsuharu? I'll fucking sink you.

>> No.13337335

I want Hatsuharu to fuck me.

>> No.13337345

Which one of the four kancolle threads do I post in?

>> No.13337353

>>13337345
Avoid anything that has General, /kcg/ in it.

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