Kantai Collection -KanColle-

[Anonymous No.]

The calm before the storm.

Previous thread: >>13310652

[New to the Game? Read first, Ask later]

Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle

Recent Updates:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat
Voices, Sprites, Furnitures Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev
KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
Another KCV fork (EN): https://github.com/yuyuvn/KanColleViewer
Sanaechan Logbook: https://github.com/silfumus/logbook-EN/releases

PS Vita Game (27 August 2015): http://kancolle-vita.com
Dengeki Online article about the KanColle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096

News:
-More DD Kai2 on April 23rd (Mutsuki? Sazanami?)
-More informations regarding Spring 2015 Event:
+Indian Ocean Raid related (speculation)
+Start on last week of April
+Planned duration: 20 days (~3 weeks)
+Difficulty settings like Winter 2015 event.
+New Italian BB (presumably Littorio-class) and other new ships.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going for easy on the event
Am I kuso?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320574
if you have to ask the answer is always yes

[Anonymous No.]

Use one of the already existing threads and stop spamming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320584
maybe if you didn't make your /kcg/ thread as soon as the previous thread hit page four we wouldn't have this problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320584
If you want to help, go report >>13320223

[Anonymous No.]

If kancolle is a video game, then why a general dedicated to it isn't to /vg/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320609
It 2hu is video game, then why is it all over /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320609
Originally the threads were for Kancolle multimedia.

Then all the other media left for /a/, but the game general that remained didn't leave for /vg/ because the people in the thread are obstinate faggots who didn't want to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320574
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320618
because /jp/ is literally the touhou board

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320627
You mean was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320574
If you can do medium or hard but choose easy instead then yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320620
u mad that your thread got deleted for the 10th time fag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320719
I'm mad that you're a bunch of dumb faggots who won't put their thread in the proper board because you think you're too good for /vg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320627
It is the slow /a/ board. Great place for people who don't like threads slipping off the board in 5 minutes flat, but still want to talk about otaku things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320724
>proper board
Who died and made you supreme adjudicator of boards? Stay mad fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320727
>It is the slow /a/ board.
fuck no, it's the not-/a/ board

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320730
Please do not reply to attentionwhoring spammerkurwa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320730
>Who died and made you supreme adjudicator of boards?
it's almost like a video game general thread should go in the video game general board

mindblowing

[Anonymous No.]

Just ignore the spammers please and use this thread: >>13320729

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320738
Then by all means, try and move the touhou threads, visual novel threads or the SRW threads in /m/ to /vg/ and see how many people blow your ass out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320742
Thank you once again for directing me to the exact thread I should report. You're real help in that regard /vg/ fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320742
you're going to get me banned at this rate

yamete kudasai

>>13320744
>touhou threads
/jp/ was literally created to be the touhou board

>visual novel
generally not considered video games

>SRW threads
i believe you should be talking to /m/ about that one

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320754
Nice cherry picking. We stay in /jp/. Try and move us fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320754
Browser games aren't video games

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320754
The truth must get out.

>>13320759
Have you ever been in /vg/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320758
>Nice cherry picking.
they're exactly the examples you chose yourself

>We stay in /jp/.
that is in fact the case for now

>>13320759
grinding games are universally awful but unfortunately they're still games

[Anonymous No.]

>All this childish fights over literally nothing.
How about we talk about Kancolle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320724
>too good for /vg/
What? Both board a shit anyway, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320759
Uh, not the /kcg/fag, but they are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320765
I'm saving bauxite goddamit Akagi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320770
>what's your point?
I am simply relating to you what the people in this thread have been saying on and off for for a year and a half.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320765
It is still not time. We have to wait for /kcg/ fag to fuck off. Thats when we talk about Kancolle and wait till his next outburst.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320774
Is Akagi eating all your bauxite just a meme?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320779
It's a meme that once had a basis in reality, back when all TTKs were starving and poor and their first carrier Akagi really did eat all their bauxite.

It was then made somewhat canon that she eats a shitton.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320777
Until we get to page 3, and he returns to promote his new thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320779
/kcg/ is dank mene central :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320779
I think it's real. Used to level her and Kaga on PVP and see my bauxite going down like a waterfall. Stopped doing that and now bauxite is what I have the most.

[Anonymous No.]

Left: Shy, innocent DD
Right: Sexually-satisfied, futon-experienced DD

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320793
>Used to level her and Kaga
>Kaga
Found your problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320795
>Ipmlying I didn't teach her

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else getting BTFO in Orel for some reason?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320793
>using CVs in PvP
There's your problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320795
The Murakumo that knew men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320793
Of course you're going to lose all your bauxite if you get fucked up by enemy carriers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320804
well the planes will get down indeed, but I mean using 3 BBs in PVP will use a lot of ammo and it still wont be the same as bauxite problem with CVs, Akagi is like a Nagato or Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320822
The difference is bauxite isn't easy to get unlike fuel, ammo, and steel.

[Anonymous No.]

how many times do we have to have the same conversation about carriers jesus christ

[Anonymous No.]

Whoever thought it was a good idea to give two DDs higher fire power than the strongest CL should be shot. I bet it was Tanaka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320828
DDs can't use 20cm guns.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26004672

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320828
But ayanami has the same firepower as jintsuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320843
But Ayanami is cuter therefore she's stronger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320828
There are a ton of DD with Kai II. Only four non-CLT CLs have Kai II, and Isuzu is specalized for AA/ASW. If Kuma, Nagara, Natori or the Agano get Kai II you can be sure they'll be stronger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320845
Neither of them are cute, what is your point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320785
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320848
>implying Kuma won't become a CLT

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320849
You are objectively wrong about that.

[Anonymous No.]

Reposting from the last thread, in regards to RJ in the Jew Pastebin:

>>13320138
>>13320172
>Sum of square roots is 12.21 vs 11.98 - you would have to use Reppuu Kai on big slot, Reppuu on normal and Zero 21 on small slot or slt to shift the situation in RJ's favor.
I went to sleep, but RJ is comparable to Chitose and Chiyoda as a reppuu mule--her AS is only about 2 points weaker with top 3 slots taken by Reppuu Kai, Reppuu 601 and Reppuu and 4th slot taken by damecon/bomber/saiun, and she's somewhat stronger in mixed/SCAMP configuration.

>Not to mention his argument is worthless if you use 2 CVLs - Jun'you also has three planes slot for the Saiun - and if you use carriers in events, one WON'T be enough.
So stick a bomber on it so you won't have two completely useless CVL?

And yes, Hiyou is flat out superior to RJ as a reppuu mules, but is flat out inferior to RJ as a mixed carrier due to her symmetrical slots, just like the cranes. She also has the problem of being slow. You already have three excellent reppuu mules on the list (Junyou, currently Kaga of the CVLs, the Chitose sisters), having one ship that is only slightly worse than the others at being a reppuu mule but can fulfill the role of a mixed carrier is a better bet than a carrier useless outside of reppuu muling and support expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320849
I will rip your face off m8. Both Ayanami and Jintsuu are perfect wife material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320849
Why do you have such shit taste?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320733
Kancollec threads are slowly turn in to shitty /a/-tier thread though

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320878
I don't see yurispammer or maupon shitposting here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320878
>/a/
>shitty
How new you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320878
/a/ is off doing it's own shit right now, but least /a/'s Kancolle threads come up with new stuff from time to time. /jp/ threads are 99% regurgitated topics that were beaten to death months ago.

At least the event will shake things up just a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320884
Not him, but it didn't use to be the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320884
>How new you are?
the irony here is so think you could cut it with a knife

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320890
You can't expect /vg/ tier of discussions on Kancolle. It is just a browser collection game and when you've collected them all there is just RNG to talk about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320900
Maybe if everyone who asked a question that's been answered on the wiki or in the archive were summarily banned these threads would have a chance at not being shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320890
This. /a/ threads are actually more bearable when it isn't event time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320908
>these threads would have a chance at not being shit.
The threads won't be shit anymore, because they'd be dead outside of the first day of events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320908
Not at all. Helping new players and talking about stuff that could be found on the wiki keeps the threads alive and puts discussion and information here. If this was a thread only for people who know everything to talk about things they already know, who would care?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320916
If you have nothing to talk about then don't generate garbage text to keep the threads alive.

>>13320917
>Helping new players
New player should help themselves.

>If this was a thread only for people who know everything to talk about things they already know, who would care?
Every now and then something new will come along. Talk about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320921
>then don't generate garbage text to keep the threads alive.
Like meta discussion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320926
Keeping the thread alive is just an unfortunate side effect. Threads do not NEED to be up 24/7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320921
Except this isnt fun. We want to talk with people and ask their opinion, we want to feel like we are playing this game with everyone and not alone. Again, if we just read everything and know everything, the threads would be much more dead and less fun. New content generates hype that dies in a matter of one week or so, specially if everyone already knows everything about it.

Different opinions, discussions, they are based on diversity, lack of experience too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320934
>We want to talk with people and ask their opinion, we want to feel like we are playing this game with everyone and not alone.
I want to feel like I'm not posting in a thread made entirely of people too dumb to look shit up for themselves, but hey, we don't always get what we want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320934

If the easy answer is available on the wiki they should take the time to look it up themselves, no one here is obligated to be their google. If people want to start discussion, speculate and test new things like development recipes, accuracy calculations and formation mechanics. Last I saw echelon had no clear purpose other then placebo night battle formation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320943
>Start discussion
You haven't exactly given a case of what to discuss.
>Speculate
So what, "allies when," "b-but Tanaka-san said" and "what do you think the new Italian BB will be"?
>Test new things
Everyone here is autistic, but not enough to test for statistical significance.

[Anonymous No.]

tfw you will never cuddle with haruna

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320937
But you dont have that, those threads have both experient and dumb people, but it's not like any of them can contribute to the threads anyway because the game discussions are losing space to shitty kcg and /a/ and any other irrelevant stuff from time to time

>>13320943
Yes but again we cant be 8 or 80, there are times the questions are too dumb and there are times that the questions are valid, "read the wiki" answers for 100% of the stuff isnt right either. It's all about having all kinds of GAME discussions.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, hey guys.

Reppu.

[Anonymous No.]

Why the meta?

[Anonymous No.]

Why are destroyers so useless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320982

autists are mad because they don't have anything to be mad about

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321000
Damn, so they'll complain even if it's not a /kcg/ thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320996
They aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321007
Welcome to /jp/ kancollec

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321049
>kancollec

[Anonymous No.]

Why do subs attack other subs? Have they not caught on to their complete impotence in ASW? How retarded can you get? I wish Hitler succeeded, then maybe I would have a competent navy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321067
Do subs with Zuiun actually attack other subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321072
They don't

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>>13321060
> *can this*

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>>13321073
How are subs attacking other subs then? They don't target other subs in the opening phase unless there are no other targets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321083
It's bug and devs doesn't bother fix it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321083
Torpedo phase

[Anonymous No.]

Yasen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321158
Only your planes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321158
It's Yasen time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321195
Yasen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321158
>>13321195
>>13321209
Keep it on >>>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320996
What do you use for expeditions, anon? 3BB/1CAV/2CV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321226
That's retarded. What, can we only discuss the game on /v/ now, too?
How about you keep your shitty opinions about "how threads should be run" in your head? In the meantime, everyone else will be here discussing Kancolle, because that's what the thread is for.

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>>13321226
Okay, let's discuss about accuracy penalty on Kongous using 46cm main guns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321249
Fuck off to /c/
You are the same kind of retard who complains about /kcg/. We do not need shits like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321259
It is a thing that exists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321261
>>13321226

It is people like you we don't need. Images are more welcome than the "post a screenshot of your wite/page1/1-6 fleet" spam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321259
Using 1 is almost unnoticeable. Using 2 brings the miss chance to 6-8%. Still somewhat inconsequential but during combined fleets this will fuck you over. I recommend a 46cm + proto 35.6cm to offset this.

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>>13321282
Only reaction images and gameplay related images are allowed. If you want to spam the thread with your waifu fuck off to >>>/a/ or >>>/c/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321296
>allowed
No, you fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321302
Pack up and get >>>/out/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321309
Stop shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321316
Stop shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321302
>>13321316
Don't reply to obvious shitposters, post more waifus. Just to spite him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321324
Shit stopposting

[Anonymous No.]

The hidden love stat really works.

[Anonymous No.]

Best Sendai

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321364
Love stat can barely beat RNG stat in my case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321368
>RNG stat
Don't make me remember my 4-4 clear sorties.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry for this dumb question guys but I am a returning player.

There was a list in Japanese that I couldn'd find on the wiki. It said what secretary ship at what level would help you craft a ship. Does anyone know about this? I used it to craft several rare ships mostly with Kongou and Akagi as secretary. Any help is appreciated thanks.

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>>13321362
Shit stopposting

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321364
Oh yes, it does.
Other ships either cut-in for maybe half of her HP or CLs would miss their double attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321372
>4-4
Easy map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321375
>Akatsuki is olev 2
Where's the first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321373
You remember wrong. Sectretary was for equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321290

I've never seen any info that showed Kongous having even that high of a miss chance even with 2x46, nor even anything that gives a bonus over 2x41 or 2x35.6. Though of course using as much +acc in combined fleet as possible is always recommended.

Regardless of how reliable it is though, there is lots of data for Kongou, Nagato and and Yamato class, but I have yet to find any about Fusou and Ise. Is there any info about them? What should they be equipped with to maximize their damage and accuracy?

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>>13321380
Here.
She also got the final kill on E1 back then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321382
No because I used it to craft ships successfully. I made rare ships like Shimakaze after only like two attempts. The list was only in Japanese though, and I think it was posted in the comment section of the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321383
It's either 6% if we take http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150113180944/kancolle/images/3/31/Overweight_FBB.png

or ~8% if we take http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141217033030/kancolle/images/2/2e/Overweight_Test.jpg
(Notice Kongou with no guns has an accuracy of 97 but Haruna with 2x46cm has an accuracy of 89.5 at the same levels.)

The same table also shows that Hiei at a much higher level seems to negate the accuracy penalty almost completely.

[Anonymous No.]

I modernized armor on my light carries to the max for 2-4 but they get taiha'd by bombers and BBs anyway. What's the point of stats even?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321434
Alright something fucked up the first image.
6% to miss according to http://i.imgur.com/paMiyb0.png

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>>13321450
Only ChitoChiyo can survive a hit. Rest of CVLs are made of paper, just like their planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321434
>>13321454

6 misses on 200 shots would be 97% accuracy

[Anonymous No.]

Ah fuck looks like i completely misunderstood the meaning of 命中. The second table should still hold though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321450
Early in the game, BBs will mercilessly mape you.
When you level and modernize your girls, they will get less scary.
And then you meet their elite and flag versions and the cycle starts again.

[Anonymous No.]

does imuya stop choking and getting taiha'd once you modernize her

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321420
Placebo. Deal with it mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321483
This. Except modernization doesn't really help against flag BBs. Especially line ahead Ta, fucking cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321495
Nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321495
She still gets taiha'd like no one else but at least can reliably kill enemies. And her taiha repair doesn't hurt even half as much as chuuha Goya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321495
It only stops when you use her for modernization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321495
Don't expect her to cut-in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321420
You might mean this: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B7%FA%C2%A4%A5%EC%A5%B7%A5%D4#comment

It's just for reporting builds. Although posters list their flagships, it's really just a formality in case of future changes.

The current consensus is that there is no effect on rare chances outside of Germans, and the wikiwiki construction page reflects this.

http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%B7%FA%C2%A4#u657cbf9
>開発と違い秘書艦（第1艦隊旗艦）の影響はない

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321434
Wow. So at high levels the guns become completely compatible. That's real good to know. It also dispels the myth that level doesn't matter. Fuck the guy who keeps saying that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321518
>It also dispels the myth that level doesn't matter.
But it's true.

ｗｗｗｗｗｗ

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>>13321518
Doing PvP proves it well. Just try hitting married ship with low level BB. Especially with 46cm. It never happens. Or get two Kongous, one with 46 and other with 35.6 - difference should already be clear after one or two rounds.

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>>13321528
I don't see a difference between a kongou using 46 and 35.6. The accuracy difference really isn't as big as people make it out to be.

[Anonymous No.]

If Kuma gets kai 2 what would her stats be?

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>>13321518
That's bullshit. Yellow/Late model filth has obscene evade stat, and since it's effective accuracy that's capped and its formula is all accuracy bonuses minus evasion the difference between 2x35,6 and 2x46 is very real even to naked eye. Some retards still insist on using 2x46 even after that Kongou E-5 clearly showcased that using 46s instead of fit guns is fool's errand though. I guess nothing can cure those imbeciles.

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>>13321556
Better than Naka

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321556
Jintsuu/Ayanami/Nagara-tier or such

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321518
>>13321528
Am I the only one whose low level ships perform just as well as high level ones? I'm completely serious here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321556
+Looks better

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321559
Could you type that more coherently and not like a raging lunatic? Also source on that would be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321564
I've never seen a difference when leveling them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321564
Perhaps your low level ship are other admirals' high level ships?

Or maybe you're just one of those lucky fucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321568
Speak English or die. And even english wiki has that shit now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321576
Nice to see you pulling shit out of your ass when confronted. Also any English teacher would look at that sentence and give you an F.

[Anonymous No.]

It takes 61 flag+MVP sorties to 3-2A to get from level 55 to 65.

...oh god, why did I even look that up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321573
Single digit level ships perform just as well as married ships. I know it's ridiculous but that's how it goes for me.

[Anonymous No.]

What formation should I use for 1CL 5DD on 3-5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321595
Line ahead all the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321585
You can't comprehend English and you can't search wikia for relevant stuff instead of crying to be spoonfed. It's hilarious how you're making a fool out of yourself, by all means you should continue to entertain me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321595
Line Ahead. Kill before you're torpedoed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321592
Now look up Fusou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321595
Trapezoid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321592

I've never been able to rig it to get MVP with a CA there with any sort of consistency.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321603
Sorry but you look like a troll and not someone who knows something valuable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321610
Trapezium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321612
Where's a better CA levelling spot then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321603
>I'm right because I say so.
Sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321609
I'm not leveling her, so I neither need to nor want to.
I only have enough medals for a single blueprint, anyway.

...well, ok. 624 sorties from 54 to lvl 80 as an escort. 208 as flag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321624
3-3, 4 CA 2 CV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321629
Ugh I just need to grind up Tone and Haguro for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321603
Still waiting for some semblance of proof on that claim you lying piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321612
I'd guess I have about 90-95% MVP for Choke-kai at the moment.

See:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Shinhwalee/Guide_to_Power_Leveling_Heavy_Cruiser_%28CA%29_in_World_3-2A

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321612
After posting my crappy setup and getting laughed at I finally came up with something solid that gives me MVP 90% of the time.

-CA with radar double attack
-3CV each with only one blue plane and misc equipment, one with saiun
-Sub with boiler
-BB with yellow gun cut in

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321632
3 CA 1 BB 2 CV works too. You have Fusou right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321629
Is that even faster than 3-2A?

It's going to burn through resources and buckets like hell if I remember my last 3-3 experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321680
Very much so, on both counts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321680
The event is approaching, anon.
Just do 3-2 and spend literally no buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321698
I know.

But 3-3 sounds like you don't risk sinking subs or killing yourself out of mind-numbing boredom.

Even the possibility of quitting 3-2A for that paradise gives me hope.
For my life after the event, I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321740
If you want something interesting without being too heavy on buckets you could use 4-1 - this way you could also train DDs/CLs

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321698
I'm doing 3-2-A since yesterday, leveled Kirishima from 20 to 33 so far, but I'm kind of wasting ammo and my Mutsu or Hiryuu steal the MVP all the damn time.
I could go like in the videos and just put them as support without too many bombers or with just radar but then I'm worried I wouldnt get a S rank like this, sometimes instead of just 4 noob ships there are a fully fleet with a few annoying ships, is there a perfect composition to do get rank S and MVP for my BB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321758
What. It's possible to have problems with assuring MVP for BB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321758
Why would you use Mutsu on 3-2A? Do you enjoy wasting resources? Use more carriers with less planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321758
Isn't it kind of resource wasteful to use mutsu or hiryuu in 3-2A non-flag? It's not like you need a second BB for 2nd shelling with Kirishima there. Why not CAs or CVLs?
CAs with cut-in, or even double attack usually won't out-damage a BB, but you need to cycle them because of fatigue.
CVLs don't need to be cycled, but if they leave 3+ enemies alive after aerial, chances are someone's getting torpedoed. This happens rarely enough that you could dock them if you have spare CVLs to switch in (if you have more than 2 repair docks).
CLs with double attack work like CAs but the proc for double attack is lower.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321791
>CLs with double attack work like CAs but the proc for double attack is lower.
Do we have any data confirming that? I can easily agree but source would be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321800
The CLs have lower double attack chance than (remodelled) CAs because they can't equip an additional radar/seaplane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321805
Fuck. Now I feel stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321791
While cycling them is more effective, with a Cut-In setup (including a surface radar) and as much +accuracy as possible you can even run CAs in red morale.
You may need to use Double Line if they scratch too much with their CIs.

[Anonymous No.]

>level 75 remodel

why

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321834
>level 80
>less fp than her sisters
>most significant gain is luck boost which BBs don't need

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321861
I thought you were talking about Fusou there for a second until I opened the full picture.
Ise and Hyuuga K2 any time now

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321861
Don't forget about AA which is still clearly lower than Nagatos and Yamasushi while not being much above Fusous.

>>13321869
Same here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321832
What's the point of slapping multiple radars on CVLs in 3-2A power grinding? I mean it's not like it's fleetwide accuracy+, right?

I mean if it were I might as well raise the Fleet LOS with recon planes more instead, which raises cut in/DA chances.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321861

Dazzle guns

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321876
It raises their accuracy more than yellow planes would so they hit more often but limits their damage dealing capability at the same time so they can't steal MVP as easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321876

>only have 1 type 32 surface radar
>CA flagship mvp farming ends in dismal failure

fug

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321910
Is that your only surface radar?
I'm running Type 22s on my escorting CAs/BBV because the only Type 32 I have is on my flag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321937

My only other surface RADAR is the one Shigure came with which Yuudachi is using.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321876
It's accuracy for that one ship. I crafted radars that are not Type 22 and double line and now they can reliably hit ships better in fatigue grinding. They still miss once in a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321951
Eight days to event and still no Type 32 radars, so bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321962
5 months playing and no cardboard box. I'll manage without it.

[Anonymous No.]

>384 non-MVP flagship runs to get Maya from 45 to 75

All of my other ships need exp too so spreading MVP around isn't that big of a deal, but jesus fucking christ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321981
get MVP scrub

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321981
You're still wasting experience by not getting Flag + MVP even when it's "not bad".

All in all you will level quicker when you git gud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321993

I haven't even been playing for 3 weeks so if I git gud and MVP spam with no downtime I'll hit 0 fuel and be fucked anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321981
Do one at a time. The passive exp builds up and it's how I leveled my carriers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322000
When you can't spam it, it's even more of a reason to get the most out of each run.
It should not be that hard to gimp your other ships at your level, as you should have plenty of inadequate equipment anyway.

If you don't have a broad spread of ships past their first remodel I'd aim for that first before going after the Kai 2s, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322022
Yeah, the only K2s you absolutely need are Kitakami and Ooi (if you have her). Sendai is very useful for her eq. Jintsuu, Yuudachi, Shigure for rather early remodels and being top of their classes. Most of K2s are simply significant but not game-changing increase in stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322022
>>13322038

These are my highest leveled ships atm. Right now I'm trying to level my carriers and CA(V)s, and I wanted to get Maya to Kai 2 for a more reliable anti-air ship than Shigure with a cut-in setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321981
Just leveling in PVP like true TTK. It's enough for all kai ni plus some ships to 99.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322061
And how long did that take you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321516
thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

How should BBVs be equipped?

Two reds and two Zuiuns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322126
AP Shell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322126
I like to switch a zuiun for a radar sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>"32 遠洋練習航海 24:00 Lv 5 CLp* 2DD 3XX "
>CLp*: Katori (CLp) must be the flagship (Katori is currently unobtainable)

Oh ok. So, expedition 32 is just not possible yet or you get Katori from a special event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322126
All 4 slots with Zuiuns. They're better as tankier ASW machines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322170
Hyuuga please

[Anonymous No.]

Trying to stay under my resource cap paid off!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322195

>non-DD trophies

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322205
Some day, having all four aganos will be fifth fleet quest, mark my words.

[Anonymous No.]

shimakaze is a brat

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322226

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322213
I hope not, I don't really like them but would like a fifth fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320172 here. I've changed my mind, I'll update the pastebin only after the issue with the CVLs is fully settled.

>>13320138
I apologise for the inconsistency, but my expertise is more on equipment than on CV(L) slots, so I'm far more confident in my judgement of what equipment should be upgraded than what CVLs are the best.

Therefore, I'll say to >>13320862: I'll leave the rest of the discussion to others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322251
Get reckt then
I keep one of each ship except some of the useless DD and CL. Like who the fuck wants a nagatsuki or yura?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322263
Yura was my highest level CL for a time. Get fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322195
Oppai strong

>>13322205
>>13322251
>being gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322267
You get fucked.
Yura is useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322270
Everyone is viable in this game. Even Maruyu. As luck fodder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322263
>Nagatsuki

But muh expedition min-maxing

[Anonymous No.]

待ってね、大鳳君。
すぐ結婚しようよ。

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322263
Oi fuck you mate, Nagatsuki was my first ever ship besides my starter. She'll always have a special place in my heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322278
I'm pretty sure she's sleeping next to me right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322170

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322133
You must have joined after Winter 15, she was e4 reward. I don't have her either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322133
It's almost like the wiki page for Katori tells you this
>Winter 2015 Event, E-4 clear reward

[Anonymous No.]

Been thinking for some time and still can't decide who to use blueprint on first, is there a must have?

[Anonymous No.]

how is your best carrier equipped right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322342
Tone/Chikuma

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322343
Empty slots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322343
Reppu 601
Reppu
Tomonaga
Egusa

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322342
People will tell you either Tone or Fusou, I'd personally go for Tone since chances are I'll need more a CAV than a BBV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322343
She's stripped naked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322343
Empty, waiting on the event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322342
Tone definitely, you can't go wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322353
Reppuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322377
Memeu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322342
Whichever girl you like more

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322392
>angering the min/maxing overlords

Stop that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322343

Shidens on the biggest slot, Type 52s/Shidens for the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

So, I keep bitching in /jp/ but I don't get Reppus nor Iku drops, what to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322420
Reppuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322374
Why not chikuma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322420
You're not complaining hard enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322427
I don't like her face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322429
Maybe is that's the problem.

>>13322424
Reppû?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322431
>I don't like her face.
I thought I was the only one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322431
>>13322460
It improves after kai2

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322431
Tell me, why does Chikuma wear the mask?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322431
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322487
Saggy boobs of a grandma

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322494
I didn't realize boobs were on the face

[Anonymous No.]

Does a chart about all the requirment for expeditions exist?
The only one that I have is this japanese uncomplete one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322487
It's her un-remodeled face. It gives me weird, bad hentai art vibes. Uncanny pic related warning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322487
It still has that mask feel, I can't put my finger on what is wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322509
If that's all just rush her to k2

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322505
If only a wiki were listed in the OP things would be different.

[Anonymous No.]

So has anyone been banned for botting yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322319
I was here since nov 2013 but stopped playing in summer of 2014.

[Anonymous No.]

Why aren't people leveling their Sazanami?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322585
Because she's not the other DD a getting Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322585
Mine is ready, maybe I'll level her up a little more just in case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322585
Because I always feed her to other cuter ships

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322610
It'll be lv70

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322546
nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322620
I know, but I don't mind leveling her a little more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322585
I haven't seen her in months.

[Anonymous No.]

This month than in April last week , "can this " spring events 2015 : Limited waters [ issued ! It is a plan to deploy a ] eleventh issue strategy . So that the success of the book strategy , will also be possible encounter with the new ship daughter , such as Italy ship daughter . Same strategy period , is scheduled before and after about 20 days . "Can this " spring event , please stay tuned !

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322645
Sugoi google TL anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322645
I sure enjoy playing Can This

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322645
Kongetsu 四月最終週 Yori,`-kan kore' haru ibento 2015: Kikan gentei kaiiki [hatsurei! Dai jū ichi gōsakusen] o tenkai yoteidesu. Hon sakusen o seikō sa seru koto de, Itaria-kan musume nado no shin kan musume to no kaigō mo kanō to narimasu. Dō sakusen kikan wa, yaku 20-kakan zengo no yoteidesu. `Kan kore' haru Ibe, dōzo otanoshimini!

[Anonymous No.]

>Maya is level 50
>Other girls are level 20 or so
What the fuck was I doing
Is this what having a waifu feel like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322686
You tell me, anon. I already have the papers and the ring ready.

and I'm totally unprepared for the event, fuck me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322692
What HQ level nigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322697
59

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322707
You'll be fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322707
You are 59 and you already have a level 90 ship?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322723
Not him but lv 52 with a lv 70 Mutsu, and I dont even like to level much. Though his other ships are also very high level for his HQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322716
Thanks

>>13322723
Yeah, I did nothing else but endless 4-3 and PvP. She never leaves the first fleet.

That's why most of my ships hover around level 30~35 only or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322645
my eyes hurt

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322343
reppuu 601
reppuu 601
ryuusei 601
reppuu

[Anonymous No.]

Wasnt there supposed to be a PSP or Vita game that was coming out? Did I miss it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322852

>inb4 vita bullying

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322852
It releases in August I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322870
You mean another delay will get announced in August

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322355

tone or chikuma is a tossup, doesn't really matter, but fusou equipment is easily worse than yamashiro

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322879
Yamashito is Yamashito though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322879

While searchlights are amazing and the rocket launcher is horrible, you should really have a searchlight by the time you're remodeling one of them to Kai Ni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322879
>easily worse
A searchlight is not a large difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322887
>>13322890

with basically identical stats, you have to pick a reason if you're using a blueprint, and a searchlight over a t-rex arm is reason enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322898

They should be pretty damn low on the blueprint totem pole anyway, it doesn't really matter at all. Fusou has a better personality but the T-Rex arm is just horrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322879
But Yamashiro is in lesbians for Fusou. You can't waifu that.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there an objectively best in-game sprite art?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth making 10cm HA+FD and/or 12.7cm HA+FD before the event at this point? Have 2 94 FD right now and 55ish screws. I feel like/hoping that Akizuki is going to be an award/drop from the event, and I'll have wasted a fuckton of screws trying to make them.
Also my Akashi is not kai'd right now.
I know Akizuki doesn't do anything for the 12.7 cm +FD but honestly I feel like the 12.7+FD is kind of a waste of an equip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322903

I would put it like this
Bismarck > Choukai > Tone > Yamashiro > Unryuu > Chikuma > Fusou > Amagi
Whaletail optional

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322918

You should have one 12.7+FD around just in case the rest should be made into ducky guns regardless since they're the best DD guns

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322918

12.7cm HA+FD is worth it because it's the only way to get one, and it makes Maya better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322908
Tossup between
Myoukou Kai 2
Nachi Kai 2
Kiso Kai 2
Kimono Ooyodo
Hiryuu Kai 2
Poi Kai 2
Personally, I'm really fond of Myoukou

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322931
Is giving Maya the 12.7HA+FD+Main+Seaplane+Air radar actually viable? Afraid that it'll lower her fp by too much for her to be useful during day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322949
Finally someone with good taste.

[Anonymous No.]

Why am I getting sent to node J in 3-5? I've killed the boss 3 times and this hasn't happened yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322955

She's not going to be useful during the day if you want her to have an AACI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322962
S-ranked the boss node*

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322949

Pic related is the best, followed by all of the Kai Ni bobs except Nachi who isn't really that great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322962
What is your comp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322908
anything that based fumikane drew

or this qt

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322977

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322979
Harusame is law

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322979
There needs to be more girls with metal chains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322686
>>13322692
Science has proven nothing prepares ships for events better than powerleveling the love stat.

>>13322918
Make a list of things you can spend screws on and order them by long term priority. Go down the list until you run out of screws. It's not a waste if the next alternative wasn't going to be any better.

[Anonymous No.]

Just got my 3rd Kinugasa in a week, 2 from crafting and one from 2-5, after I spent hella long getting one just the last month.

T-thanks RNG

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323015
*3-5

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323015

I have so many quests tied up because I don't have her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322983
>>13322977
nvm I moved Sendai up to flag and it didn't happen again.
Now I have another problem to worry about...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322983
You MUST go the north (F) route for the 4th and final kill.
>"F" mean "Final". You will always encounter this pattern when the boss gauge is 1/4 or if you've already completed this map.
>>13323026
What node did that? Now I'm not sure what's going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323038

The only time I've ever gone north is to bully hoppo, I always clear it south every month, try more radar for LOS

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323038
>You MUST go the north route
I didn't notice that on the wiki.
That's funny though, because that was actually the boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323026
Bring a CAV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323038

>You MUST go the north (F) route for the 4th and final kill.

The "F" is from the formations, not the nodes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323038

There is an F node, but that's not the final its talking about, there are F(final) formations on several nodes, look at G > 1, 2F, 3, 4, 5F

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323056
>>13323064
>The "F" is from the formations, not the nodes.
Ah, that makes sense now that I look at the enemy chart. Another anon steered me wrong then.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are the abyssal girls so lewd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323134
They have to boost their appeal, or else everyone will hate them simply for being the enemy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323134
To remind you that they used to be adorable can this daughters

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323134
They're cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323134
They adopted the best parts of society. Soon enough, they will work for brothels and stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323134

They are evolving their physical forms to be more like the things they fight constantly, but they are unaware that those form are so sexually appealing to us. We find their oblivious flaunting of their sexual bodies to be lewd. QED

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323158

I recognize Destroyer Hime and Hoppou-chan.
Who're the others?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323134
they've got no souls

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323174
The newtype CA.
Airfield hime aka Henderson.
Harbour hime ala Darwin.
Re.
Shark.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the cap on furniture coin boxes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323211
3k of each box, 200k coins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323208

Are there any other abyssals with recognizable models in the USN? I've heard of Yorktown but don't know who it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323208
>newtype CA
Kono puresshaa?

[Anonymous No.]

Do you need to S rank a node to get a rarer drop or is it completely random?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323340
S gives better drops, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

I really want Taihou.
But pre-event LSC feels really risky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323355
What are you resources at?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323355
You have 3 weeks to finish the event, you have more than enough time to recover losses if you don't dick around.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best Taihou recipe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323359
9k Fuel
16k Ammo & Baux
23k Steel
>>13323364
I know, I guess it just depends on how hard the event is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323391
Don't even think about it nigger, save those resources.

[Anonymous No.]

Tried the standard recipe for getting I-401 and got Yamashiro for my trouble. On the plus side I did get Kaga literally right after with a normal CV recipe. Still I'm mad as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323585

Doesn't I-401 have a horrible drop rate from LSC? Like, way worse than everything else? I would just wait until she drops in an event if you want her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323603
Lesson learned, I'll just stockpile resources then since I finally unlocked 35 and soon 36-7-8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323603
She'll drop immediately if you try to craft Musashi. I confirmed that thanks to Paul Allen.
Still searching for Iku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323614

>unlock 37 and 38
>not enough high leveled DDs to run both at the same time
>not enough drums either

Crafting drums is horrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323729
> laughingmutsukis.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323729
>not enough drums either
10k of each, a DD flag, and a night of min recipe development will fix that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323729
You can do the weekly quest, but it might take you maybe 2 months to have enough for 21, 37, and 38.

[Anonymous No.]

> Is your child refusing to eat?
> Buy our specially formulated Orel™ Canned Beef today and your child could eat as healthily as her!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323796
I started before Winter 15 and I have just enough for all 3 at once from weeklies +1 from crafting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323818

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323836
I never noticed the fairy sitting on the torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

new thread
>>13323866
>>13323866
>>13323866

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323818
Does it cause potato faces too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323836
fairies are cute
I want one

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323869
This isn't needed right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323869
We don't need one yet, save it for later.

Or it's kcgfag with another meta-troll attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323893
My thoughts exactly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323893
>meta-troll attempt.
Considering he gets enough of a rise out of you to give him the response he craves, I'd say it was successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323911
> rise

At this point I think most of us are just jaded by it already, and are just going to go through standard procedure #xxx to deal with his antics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323818
>Canned Beef
Stop stealing Akizuki's precious food supply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322908
There is objectively lazy same pose damaged sprite art which are the bottom ranked art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323925
No form of consumables are safe when Akagi is in the base.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323877
Those faces are a miracle of the universe.

[Anonymous No.]

What are your fleet names, TTK?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992

Main Fleet
Expedition 1
Expedition 2
Expedition 3

I think someone here named their fleet "ayy lmao" or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
Default everything. I'm not very creative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
1
2
3
4

I'm an uncreative ttk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
Task Force 58
Suggested by some anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
しぇしぇしぇ
第2艦隊
第3艦隊
第4艦隊

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320804
You can use them in PVP, you just have to go the 1 dive bomber 2 Saiun and a radar route.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320961
Did someone say Reppu?

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking 3-5 first 3 clears were easy, now I can't even get past the first node.

I stopped sparkling and am just throwing ships and buxkets at it now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321290
I use an upgraded 41cm and Haruna's zazzle dazzle gun on her and Hiei. Regular 41cm and upgraded 35.6 on the other two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13320961
>>13324096
Reppuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321568
Same experience on last event. Used Kongo sisters on E5, 46cm + 46cm was miss or scratch, 46cm + 41cm was same, only when I got to 41cm + 35.6cm did I start doing reliable damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13321612
Using a bad luck sister probably helps. You can gimp her firepower too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322205
Aganos are decent as light cruisers. Only problem is Ooyodo, Kitori, Yuubari, Isuzu, and the Sendai sisters are absurdly better...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322723
It's not hard if you have a ship you rely on a lot. Hiei was my first and only BB so she leveled up fast because I used her constantly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323729
Should have done your weeklies....

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
Alpha Fleet
Beta Fleet
Gamma Fleet
Delta Fleet

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322898
No. I have to mute the game whenever Yamashiro says something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324184
In terms of firepower, even Kuma and Nagara are better.
In terms of ASW and AA, they are beaten by Isuzu.
Their resource consumption is bad too, even fully kai2 Sendai sisters beat them.
Their looks are nice, but your love stat needs to be pretty high to ignore how much almost every other CL is plain better or fits a specialized role.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
ミノア
カルタゴ
ギリシャ
フェニキア
I named them all after civilizations who excelled in naval warfaresince I'm an old AOE player.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324275
Good taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
レッキングクルー
宝生の爆撃サービス
遠征艦隊
金剛をお願い送る


The Wrecking crew
Houshou's Bombing service
Expedition fleet
Please Send Kongou*
*4th slot is self explanatory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323864
What fairy is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324286
Your 2nd and 4th fleet's names reek of google translate anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324184
>are absurdly better...
No, Aganos simply suck, just like all non-K2 CLs (who barely are where they should be, nothing absurd about them). Elite DDs are stronger than Aganos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324421
it is, it washed into it for the heck of it.
Have no reason would I deny it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
第一南遣艦隊 I frequently change this one to fit sortie map
第22駆逐隊
第8駆逐隊
第2駆逐隊

[Anonymous No.]

got my puppy kai ni

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324601
Enjoy the ptsd.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I do the quests for the German ships before the event? Got my subs ready and the exp unlocked, thing is I stockpiled and I feel like I can do keep doing expeditions and keep running Orel

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324642
You're not going to be crafting them before the event, so don't bother. Save that for after the event when you can afford to lose as fleet for a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324645
Alright, thanks man. I was just wondering if I'd feel better getting it out of the way

[Anonymous No.]

I think I fucked up. Grinded 1-5, boosted my HQ level high and now everything's super hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324642
I was telling myself that before Winter 2015.
I told myself that again after Winter 2015

Mochi event and Musashi event later, I still sit without Bisko heading into the next event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324820
By everyting you mean 3 maps. Oh no.

[None !RJTTKr2Pzw No.]

>>13323992
Main
Expedition
Orererorel
EX

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
I can't be the only one who names their fleet after food, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
1:大丈夫、行けます！
2:Bucket
3:Bucket
4:Oil

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324856
>Orererorel
That's supposed to be your main fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
ヨルムンガンド
ヒュドラー
クラーケン
レヴィアタン

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324904
wouldn't it be "leviasan" rather than "leviatan", though ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324945
Levia-san?

[Anonymous No.]

Is doing 1-6 to the end node counted as seeing a boss? I mean is it counted in completing the see 24 bosses weekly?

[Anonymous No.]

ded gaem
ded thread
we need kcg autism to keep the thread alive

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324987
The thread doesn't need to be lively all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324987
Threads are always slow for a few hours around the same time every day which I assume is when caucasians are asleep.

Have some Bob.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324435
I guess I just have a soft spot for them and the love stat is affecting my objectivity. Kind of like how I REALLY want Tokitsukaze to be useful but she's just a trophy when it comes down to it unless she gets a K2.
Hahaha captcha Rusei. No thanks, I already have enough of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992

X Flott MAS
Freccia
Folgore
Alfieri

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324246
Are you me?

[Anonymous No.]

>4 months later
>still can't get Naka
>can't unlock 3rd fleet

I'm trapped in hell and I can't get out

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325269
>Can't get Naka
How the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325269
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325269
How is that even possible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325279
Refrain from posting if you are so new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325299
>>13325277
I must have murdered someone in my past life or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325348
The only new thing here is you

[Anonymous No.]

>>13324966
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325418
You had 3 fucking hours to try it yourslf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325418
Don't think so, afaik boss nodes are horned ones only.

[Anonymous No.]

Are you ready?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325490
Come on devs! Give us hard modo 6 maps with regen gauge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325490
Still have 1 Ypakaze, 1 Weedgumo and 1 KTKM left to farm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325490
Absolutely for easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325279
It doesn't matter who we're quoting. What matters is our plan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
LoliParty, Lolipedition, TeaParty, and NoPan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325524
Who's in NoPan? Just curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>In normal, single-fleet maps, your main fleet gets a +5 bonus to firepower. Firepower exceeding 150 is not "wasted," but are square rooted. For example, 159 FP effectively becomes 153. 199 FP effectively becomes 157 FP. Note that this occurs *after* engagement bonuses/penalties, meaning that going above 150 helps you perform better in Head-On (hankousen) and T-Disadvantage. You need 145 FP to achieve the 150 soft cap in Parallel engagement (doukousen).

>In Combined Fleet, first fleet accuracy takes a significant hit, making it comparable to 0-morale redface testing data. However, your first fleet gains a 1.1 * (FP+15) bonus, allowing you to reach the soft cap with only 123 FP. This means that you ONLY need to reach 123 FP, and going above that gives significant diminishing returns. Therefore, you should maximize your effective damage output by using your BEST correct-fit guns. So far, these guns are +10 upgraded 35.6, 38cm Kai, 41cms, and 46cms. Prototype 35.6 and Prototype 41cms are also great choices.

Any thoughts? This should put an end to the whole 46cm vs whatever debate. In combined fleets 123 FP is absurdly easy to achieve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325539
Source.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325527
It varies depending on the expedition and who's sparkling, but right now it's Jintsuu, Murasame, Hayashimo, Shirayuki, Nenohi, and Yukikaze.

Nenohi isn't allowed to wear her spats, either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325546
The quote? Himeuta. The formula? Google combined fleet and check the wikia

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325547
Today nor tomorrow will be Nenohi for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325539
Have they tested if slot matters? I can just imagine the fun if the accuracy penalty is all because you place them in connecting slots instead of slot 1 and slot 4.

I'm considering going with that as placebo for the event BBs and CAVs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325560
Since when do slots matter for anything besides plane? There's enough variables already when it comes to accuracy and evasion and we still don't have conclusive data. Adding something as arbitrary as slot position isn't going to help anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325539
>You need 145 FP to achieve the 150 soft cap in Parallel engagement (doukousen).
Effective soft cap is 146 FP, or 151 damage. But otherwise looks legit.

>In Combined Fleet, first fleet accuracy takes a significant hit, making it comparable to 0-morale redface testing data.
Huh, I thought the accuracy cap took a hit too.

>However, your first fleet gains a 1.1 * (FP+15) bonus
Now this is something new.

What about combined fleet's equivalent of double line? Is it viable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
人類最大の艦隊（愛）
人類最大の艦隊（夢）
人類最大の艦隊（魂）
人類最大の艦隊（命）

Should probably go and rename three of them. This lacks originality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325573
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combined_Fleet

[Anonymous No.]

Any update for this pic? Bisko drei is also missing btw.
Wouldn't mind doing it if I had the font to keep some sort of consistency with the rest, CBA to do it from scratch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325555
Oh. Last time I checked modifiers weren't there. Surprising how no one noticed it until today. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325539
That's old news. The whole 46vs debate was retarded in the first place, fed by idiots who rely on wikia for information of all things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325582
I'm already on that page but it took me a while to find the numbers.

If I'm reading it correctly, there's no difference in accuracy between formations 2 and 4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325582
Also I could've sworn that accuracy in kidou butai is much higher than in suijou butai, or is that wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325583
.png original would be great

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325607
unfortunately, that's the only version I could get here. I'm not even sure if OP posted a .png on /jp to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325611
I'm starting to think it isn't even /jp/'s but came from Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325490
I have zero buckets now because of my failure at 3-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325539
Hankousen with combined fleet needs 157 FP to hit cap. Red T needs 214 FP but who cares about that lel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325621
might as well do it from scratch heh.
What's missing in the pic?
-Bisko drei
-Maya kai ni
-Choukai kai ni
-Murakumo kai ni

Did I miss anyone else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325637
That should be all. It will be great if you make the chart, the idea is really nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325651
Will do that after work.
And damn, I missed ro-chan.

Completely forgot as I kept her as yuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325637

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325583
Naka and Isuzu are pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325490
Not yet. Should be decent when the event hits though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325490
E-peen medal #2 is coming home soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325539
>0-morale redface levels
In that case what does it take to boost fleetwide accuracy and evasion of your fleet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325737
Sparkling and guns with accuracy,

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325737
Radars. Apparently high levels work too, but in my case accuracy at high levels is no different from accuracy at low levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325737
Sparkling is the only thing I can think of. With combined fleets your best asset is probably a strong radar but BBs probably can't afford to pass up the AP shell given how absurdly highly armored some of the encounters are.

[Anonymous No.]

So Proto 35.6cm (+18 FP +2 Acc) is the go to gun for the Kongous now I suppose? Or would +8 regular 35.6cm (+19 FP) be better? I'd say you might as well go all the way and upgrade them to trade the 1 extra fire power for 2 accuracy. Poorfags can stick with regular 35.6cm or Dazzle camo 35.6cm if they have haruna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325539
HA and I thought I was wasting my time upgrading 35.6 guns.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the juicy data for anyone who wants to analyze it.
http://www.himeuta.net/f35-kancolle-help-support/questions-bbs-4995-2.html?highlight=46cm

>Percentage is hit percent, the symbols just show the type of equipment he's using and aren't that important, you can see the equipment itself listed on the right side.

>The important takeaways are that gun accuracy is weighed more than secondary gun accuracy which in turn is weighed more than radar accuracy, guns too heavy for a ship class will cause an acc penalty while proper size / lower size will provide an accuracy boost, and upgraded guns provide an accuracy boost.

>Second, caliber size and ship level have been PROVEN to have a significant, observable effect on accuracy in 0-morale 1-1 testing and in Combined Fleet. Furthermore, instead of a +5 FP modifier, ships in Combined Fleet gain a 1.1(x+15) FP bonus, dropping the equipment softcap to 123 instead of 145. In other words, even if 46 cms are worth using outside of combined fleet, they provide almost NO benefit over 35.6/41cm prototypes in combined fleet because you reach FP softcap much sooner and then on top of that, miss out on correct caliber bonuses. To add onto this point, in 0-morale testing, correct gun caliber has an overwhelming contribution to accuracy whereas +ACC from both main guns (prototype 35.6/41s) and RADARs do not - ultimately, you'll want to use the BEST UPGRADED small-caliber gun appropriate to that BB class (35.6s for Kongous, 41s for Nagatos/BBVs, 46s for Yamatos) with a seaplane scout and an AP shell for Combined Fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325789
I was going to upgrade second T94 AA FD but I think I'll switch to 35.6 now. Two proto and two dazzle, so I'll need at least four 35.6, each at +2 minimum, hopefully +5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325805
>145
It's 146 you ninny.
>the city of himeuta

Also
>what is hankousen
They can do their research, I'll give them that. But they really suck at drawing conclusions, don't they.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325824
>It's 146 you ninny.
Oh fuck off. Softcap is reached at 145. That's a fact. It just so happens to be that one point above softcap still stays. Everybody knows you can go over softcap. You're only making a mess out of data.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325824
Then by all means, share your inferences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325829
If that was the case then combined fleet soft cap should be 122, not 123. Either way, they're wrong.

>>13325838
I'll just say that at the very least, hankousen should be taken into account. Battles rarely if ever go your way, and in practice the extra firepower regularly acts as insurance against things like hankousen and heavy damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325504
And ship locking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325876
They only thing that'll be locked is your shipfu's legs around my hips

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325818
Upgraded guns seem to provide a bonus to accuracy as opposed to unupgraded ones (take a look at how much more accurate Ise with 4x max upgraded 35.6cm is). The very same guy who posted that data submitted that +10 35.6cm is better than a proto 35.6cm. So you might want to take that into consideration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13323992
Fleet 1
Fleet 2
Fleet Tres
Fleet 4

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325490
Probably not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325886

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325717
Not with those buckets it won't.

[Anonymous No.]

how many buckets can i get in 10 days

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325490
I'd feel much better if I was above 150k what with my shitty final kill and event drop luck.

At least we still have a week to gather resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326032
I had less for last event and got it. Git gud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326047
Because you sunk your girls, kuso shitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326054
Flatshits deserve to be in the bottom of the ocean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326038
250~300.

[Anonymous No.]

Hope she's happy now

Left with 2 screws now, bisko's 38kai will have to wait a little..

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326063
scuttle yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326047
>>13326054
I had less than 300 buckets when the event started, and around 100 of them went towards completing weekly quests at the last minute. I still cleared everything on hard mode anyway. Didn't sink any of my own ships either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322906
Yes you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13322906
Read her post marriage secretary line, especially the one for Kai 2.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, >>13325583 here.
Decided to redo the kai ni chart, although I tried to mimick the original layout as close as possible.

Fixed the date mistake for Souryuu. I also added some stats just in case people are curious about devs "pattern".

If you have any suggestion or correction, go ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326160
If you're going to save that as PNG then either use more colors or use PNG-24.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326160
>- than Lv50
Change this to something less retarded please, like Lv<50 or something.

>Blueprints required for kai ni or third remodel
I think something like "Total blueprints needed" would be better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326160
Also
>not counting CLs and CLTs together

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326168
dang, I saved the picture too quickly.
PNG-24 (too big for 4chan): http://i.imgur.com/OBWKpR9.jpg

>>13326190
Lv < 50 fixed for the PNG-24 ver.
I didn't want to include blueprints for regular remodel, that's why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326190
"Total blueprints needed for kai ni onwards"*
Almost forgot about Unryuu-class and Ryuuhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326160
Devs love CA

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325895
So it was worth to upgrade my 46cms even if I only took them to 1 star?
Do 35.6 cms need to be max upgraded or will 6 stars be enough?

[Anonymous No.]

is there a better feeling than when 3 of your DDs torp cut-in subsequently

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326217
Nigga imgur automatically converts images above a certain file size into jpg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326261
I'm not too sure but in the post he specifically mentioned a +10 35.6 to be better than a proto 35.6. Normally you wouldn't upgrade a heavy gun beyond +8 if you want the firepower bonus but it seems that the hidden accuracy bonus you get from upgrading goes all the way to +10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326267
6 subs all cut-in

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326217
>>13326222

[Anonymous No.]

>Kirishitma and Ro

jesus christ how absolutely disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326384
Done.

If anyone knows where to upload a huge ass 5MB PNG-24, I'm all ears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326310
My screw situation is kind of lame though, relying on the daily at this point to recover my one. Though I should be finishing my weeklies tonight and 35.6 don't cost much and I have ton of them lying around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326400
>"Gee billy how come your mom lest you have two best Kongous?!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326405
>>13326206

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326400
>not liking delicious brown loli

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326427
I don't count CL and CLT because they don't have the same utility and they aren't considered the same for route and fleet compositions.
You can't form a combined fleet without CLT even if you have KTKM or Ooi, so you have to grind torpedo lovers and CL as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326439
>You can't form a combined fleet without CLT
obviously meant CL for combined fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326439
Reason is more of because Kiso became a CLT from CL than anything else. I wouldn't have thought of suggesting it otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326405

>Isuzu with the gold-backed card instead of holo

augh

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326446
there you go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326400
Nice sour grapes. Maybe you can get her next event, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Yay, now I only need to level 3 more CAs...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326531
I can't wait for the forced event map where we'll need 6CA's and have to rely on Maya's air cut in to survive the carrier roulette.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326405
minus com
pomf.se

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326657
This would be amazing. CAs are so fucking under-appreciated in events. Last time many people only used one on E3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326662
Thanks.
PNG-24: a.pomf.se/zuusel.png

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326677
My fleet consisted mostly of CAs on last E-5 easy.

[Anonymous No.]

Why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326708
One of those is not like the others

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326708
One of them is not like the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326717
>>13326719
Top one has strange hair color.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326708
One of this isn't like the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326708
Poor Makigumo.

[Anonymous No.]

What does ホロ mean when listed under the rarity column for a piece of equipment? I'm relatively new but so far I've only seen コモン and レア which are naturally pretty obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326725
>Silver/blue x2
>Black/pink
>Black/silver (gradient)
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326753
Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326677
CL are the most under-appreciated. CA do good with combined fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326758
W-well yeah that much is apparent but I can't seem to think of what that means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326771
It means it's above rare but below S Holo which is below SS Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326771
Just another step forward in terms of rarity, similar (but not exactly the same afaik - please correct me if I'm wrong) to foil cards in TCGs. "Exceptional", more or less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326771
Ever play a trading card game?
Holographic.

[Anonymous No.]

>sortie Orel crew to 3-2
Send help please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326771

Holographics are the rarest cards in trading card games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326770
I don't think so. CLs are always present in light fleets, one or two. CA... well, you can use them in heavier fleets but only their fans do. CAV are used for branching but that's it. Even in Fall when Myoukou+Haguro could have their time to shine, Akitsumaru alone provided better route.
At least normal maps are kinder to them with prime example being 2-5 where I can sortie bob team.

>>13326771
Look at backgrounds of your ships' cards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326802
>>13326797
I have and it crossed my mind but I didn't know it would apply here. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326753
I wonder why the game doesn't have the アンコモン rarity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326829

only white pigs use uncommon

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326838
Doesn't the Pokémon TCG use uncommon in Japanese as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326829
By the time they implemented rarities above holo, rares pretty much feel like uncommons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326829
Common < Rare < (any kind of super Rare) < Holo < (any kind of super Holo)
sounds better.

(American) Yugioh went common, rare, super rare, ultra rare, and secret rare iirc, and probably some new rarities before I quit, but the cards themselves above rare were all holographic.

I've seen more MMOs go with systems like common, uncommon, rare, epic/mythical/legendary/heroic/[insert fantasy word here]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326869
Adding to this, its probably easier to add a higher level of rarity for new extra-rare equipment than to change the rarity of a whole bunch of existing equipment instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326854
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/トレーディングカードゲーム#カード

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326915
Meant for >>13326838

[Anonymous No.]

>no drum crafts for days
Save me /jp/ magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326801
I usually do the opposite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326708
>no Makigumo
Jesus fuck, but he likes that ugly faced one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326801
Nothing wrong with farming steel, go on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326708
Which Yuugumo is the best in bed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326960
Yuugumo herself, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326960
Makigumo

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326960
Yuugumo, Akigumo and Hayashimo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326949
What? They're all beautiful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326459
I'll stick with my superior wet suit based sub that doesn't look like she is just another generic japanese sub.

[Anonymous No.]

Min LSC just spat out a dupe Yahagi. What the fuck do I do with her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326960
Yuugumo

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327013
Feed her to a better CL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326996
My main issue with Yuu is her voice. I like the archetype but it sounds like her seiyuu was suffering trying to achieve this voice and because of that it feels forced, unnatural. Ro however is wonderful energetic girl and you can clearly hear how happy she is, no technical problems here, quite the contrary, voice is perfect.
Both Yuu and Ro are the only kanmusu who can speak somewhat proper German instead of spewing dank memes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327022
I'm german so I somewhat dispute the "proper german" part but it's definitely better than the atrocities Bisko, Chiyo and Z1/Z3 spew.

I don't really care that much about voice. I've been playing Kancolle for so long I only occasionally play with music or voices.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327035
At least Chiyo's dicks are cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327035
I only neighbor Germany so I don't know it too well but Yuu/Ro at least can be understood without context even if there are some problems.

Oh, in that case Yuu definitely seems more attractive because she has by far the best design out of all subs and one of the best designs in whole game. Fumikane outdid himself.
Ro also looks great but comparing her quite simple design to amount of detail in Yuu's uniform I can see why some people weren't happy with the change after remodeling. Thankfully Yuu also has two slots, good luck and that sick evasion. If one were to rank subs combat-wise it would probably go like:
Ro > Yuu > Goya > rest

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327022
I don't see any problem with Yuu's voice. Kayano Ai has the knack for that kind of characters, and it seems they wanted her to make Yuu a bit meek since she is dealing with nips.

[Anonymous No.]

Ro sounds like a clinical retard, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327094
The majority of shipgirls do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327094
I take it you have problems with most of KanColle characters as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327102
It can't be denied, I'm afraid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327075
Not really, no.
Ro has 69 torp, Goya has 84, Yuu has 64
Their firepower is the same.
Goya has 18 hp, Yuu has 13
Goya has 50 luck, Yuu has 34, Ro has 44
Goya has only 1 def less than Yuu and 2 def less than Ro
Yuu does have better evasion but that isn't nearly enough to offset all the other things.
Goya is the best sub, followed by Hachi and shortly after Hachi is a mix and match of the other subs, depending on the situation

[Anonymous No.]

How much fighter power should I expect to need for this event? Filling four carriers with fighters brings me up to 531, but I'm not sure that's enough for event bosses. Planning to do it on medium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327075
Their torpedo stats are pretty laughable compared to Goya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327126
9 Reppu, 1 Reppu Kai, 2 Reppu 601
is enough
Otherwise, 12-13 Reppu should be fine too

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327114
>Yuu does have better evasion but that isn't nearly enough to offset all the other things.
It is. Difference in evasion is HUGE.
It's extremely rare to see Ro getting taiha'd. With other subs it's common occurrence when faced vs broken Abyssal eq.
Low HP of Ro and Yuu is a plus. Abyssals either kill or scratch, I don't remember a single situation where Shioi's HP came in handy.
Goya is only better if you want to hurt someone with very strong armor. If enemy is in Ro's range, she has clear advantage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326708
Magikumo nooo....

[Anonymous No.]

>>13325539
So what are the other post-cap modifiers to evasion/accuracy then, if sparkling morale is merely truncated?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to open furniture boxes individually? When I click a pile, they all open at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327129
53cm + FaT brings Ro's torpedo stat to 99. Enough for all DDs/CLs and in night she can KO anyone except for bosses/Wo&Ru Kai. Cut-ins of other subs are usually overkill. With Ro/Yuu you have much higher chance of surviving day battle, most likely untouched or only with scratches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13326708
>>13326748
>>13326960
>>13326968
>>13327146
TTK was keeping Magikumo busy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327165
pedophile please go

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have any more combined fleet data regarding the formations? Like stuff off the nip boards?

If gun caliber matters for combined fleet's first fleet... how much does it matter for escort fleet and support fleets? Like, does correct torpedo type actually matter for torpedo support fire?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327180
How many girls can I take on my way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327145
But it's not? It's 10 evasion as Yuu and 19 as Ro
9,5% dodge (ro) or 5% dodge (Yuu) isn't really that big of a deal, especially since her lower hp means that she can take a full hit, maybe two full hits of 2-4 damage, less than the other subs.

It would be different if this was 9,5% on a CV you need on the final event map, but you'll never take Yuu or Ro to a final event map due to their lacking torpedo stat and HP.

>>13327158
53cm and FaT bring Goya's torpedo stat up the same amount which makes Ro's torpedo stat a joke again.
And the other subs have as much of a chance as Yuu does if not more since the additional HP is more important than the additional bit of evasion.

Yuu is worlds and leagues apart from that garbage Maruyu and she is much better than Imuya but I wouldn't call her the best sub or even the second best.

[Anonymous No.]

Come on, we all know who the best sub is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327193
Let it go Jim, she'll never come back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327188
>53cm and FaT bring Goya's torpedo stat up the same amount which makes Ro's torpedo stat a joke again.
Way to miss the point. Read rest of the post. Difference doesn't mean anything when lower value is already perfectly enough.

>And the other subs have as much of a chance as Yuu does if not more since the additional HP is more important than the additional bit of evasion.
I wish you actually sortied your subs. You have no idea what are you talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327182
There are no girls where you're going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327193
That's like saying Arpeggio Haruna is the best BB and Arpeggio Takao is the best CA

http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Haruna_(fog)
http://en.kancollewiki.net/wiki/Takao_(fog)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327224
well, that's true as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327188
Where did you get evasion formula?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327207
The lower value means that you are either orel cruising or doing 4-2. It doesn't matter who the better sub is in that case because you'll be running 4-5 subs anyway, excluding shioi.
The same is true about 5-3.

The only instance where you have to pick 'the best / better' sub is in scenarios where you can only use so many, like 5-5, and Goya, Hachi and Shioi are the go-to for that because of their higher stats.

So, you are missing the point. Not me.

And I sortie my subs all the time.
Imuya is 141, Goya is 139, Iku is 138, Hachi is 137 and Shioi 121
What now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327224
As long as I get lasers again, I'd be satisfied. Give me an equip to put on DDs or something for some fun times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327250
I've known it for like nearly a year, ever since spring 2014, so I don't remember. I believe we were discussing evasion and someone posted a whole bunch of 2ch and jpwiki test data and it basically came down to 1 evasion = 0,5% evasion and this is doubled under sparkling and capped at 85%
So 85 evasion when sparkled = max eva
Without sparkle you'd need 170 evasion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327262
Arpeggio Yukikaze pls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327271
I don't think DDs can use lasers in Arpeggio, even the upgraded Yukikaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327267
But how is it under combined fleet? I don't like the idea of sparkling 24 ships every 2 runs or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327280
Probably not, but the possibility for unique DD equipment is there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327283
Well too bad, you're going to need it if you want to get around Yorktown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327283
Quit the game if you don't like sparkling. Its become a necessity for finishing events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327224
Are you trying to say that they aren't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327126
You shouldn't need more than 12+ fighters with 10+ AA.

>>13327135
Reppuu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327283
I don't know the specific rates. There is probably a flat bonus like with firepower (like 15% for both sides, that looks about right) and otherwise evasion still applies but is also still capped at 85%.
You'd need to dig pretty deep into the jpwiki or 2ch to find hands on data for this but there is no real way around sparkling unless you munch Irakos a lot and hate money.

I did Summer E-6 last kill in one try, and winter E-6 in three times with sparkling with everyone else I know that tried to even chip it without sparkling failed to get to final kill with 50+ runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327224
Every time I see Haruna I have to chuckle a bit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327255
Well, I already covered that:
>she can KO anyone except for bosses/Wo&Ru Kai

Ro would survive all right but she wouldn't be able to do much vs Re or Wo Kai, that's the only reason she's a bad choice on 5-5.
When it comes to survivability of subs, evasion >> armor >> HP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327286
If none of the fog ships (both yours and the enemies') that appeared last time got any stock equipment, I doubt any other fog ship will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327302
Shazam!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327299
I got sent home on the final kill 30+ times even when everyone was sparkling. One of the worst instances while fully sparkled was CL Oni somehow bringing one to taiha and one or two to chuuha during one run.

And then flag ta + flag rus critting while the whole fleet was sparkled.

Is why the idea of sparkling main and escort fleets turns me off. Experience is telling me that unsparkled got me cleanly through while sparkles somehow flipped everything around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327267
For base yes, apparently evasion from equipment counts double.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327295
Reppo

>>13327293
I'm saying they aren't, yes. Because they're not obtainable in any way and will never be obtainable ever again, therefore making them basically dummy / developer only stuff and that is never regarded officially as "the best" in any way.

>>13327306
And the only times surviving actually matters is when you either run all subs anyway, making the entire discussion moot,
or,
when you can only use a certain amount of subs and that scenario only happens in 5-5, and Yuu is not useful there, making your argument moot.

Once some theoretical scenario comes along where Yuu actually outperforms another sub and you have only limited space to use subs, I'll apologize and take it back, but until then, Yuu is not one of the best subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327267
>and this is doubled under sparkling
But there's a difference between various kind of sparkle, like 50-53 being useless and 85 being clearly better than ~60.

>>13327316
So, 4 times more effective than base stat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327315
This happens because you antagonize sparkling so much and because you don't believe in it. There is really no other way to explain this because it's exactly what I observed during the last 4 events.

>>13327316
Who the fuck uses evasion equip though? No, seriously. I haven't used an engine in over a year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327317
If Iona is best sub I don't see why Takao and Haruna aren't best CA and best BB respectively.

>>13327322
Uh, no, scratch that, it just counts as is.

>>13327326
Some people stuff turbines for things like 3-2 or Orel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327326
I give one to Maruyu when doing 3-2A but that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder -- does correct-fit guns also apply to CLs and CAs?

Maybe torpedo support fire was something we were doing wrong all along and that we needed more subs or historical torpedo equipment for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327322
Last I checked the evasion bonus applies from 54 onward and never changes all the way to 100.
There are obviously other bonuses to moral, but we're discussing just evasion.
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C8%E8%CF%AB%C5%D9

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327315
>when everyone was sparkling
Simply sparkling or 85 morale? E5 and World 5 taught me there's a difference between them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327350
85.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327332
>tfw still remember unsinkable sub. PVP was nightmare at that time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327332
Iona isn't the best sub.
Goya is.
Iona is not a valid entry in the "best sub" discussion because she cannot be used.

I use double torps for orel. I prefer stuff to die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327346
Torpedo support reduces enemy evasion

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327362
wiki link where.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327357
I didn't have enough ASW to fight any sub back then. Now I have more ASW equipment than I can handle, and my screws are all going towards making Akizuki guns so I can't even make use of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327372
In my ass of course. Just like my source.

[Anonymous No.]

>only 9 days until the event
>only have 5k fuel, 7k ammo, 9k steel, and 10k baux

Should I just stop doing anything besides expeditions and dailies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327493
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327493
Do more Orel
I'm on 12k of steel and getting stressed already

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327493
You can craft a Taihou!

I'm >>13325697 and only went over soft cap three days ago. You still have some time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327493
If you do Tokyo Express and the good long expeditions sparkled, you can get 10k in a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327493
It's not 9 days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327493
Focus on fuel, ammo and steel for now and only switch to sparkled ex6 if you hear some maps will need fuckload of bauxite. For all we know, this could be repeat of Winter where your current amount of baux was enough to clear whole event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327518
Or like last spring where you end up gaining baux even if you didn't run 6.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best way to tackle an event, resource-consumption wise?

Wait a few days until other people figure out the maps, then quickly burn through your stockpiles until you reach regen cap again, at which point you've hopefully cleared most of it, and then hover around regen and take it easy until you burn everything on the final stretch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327535
Wait a few hours, see what people did on the thread/other media, try to make something similar or better yourself. Repeat until the end
And if there's rare drops just keep doing the same map

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327535
Probably. I'm going to wait at at least few hours before attempting E1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327493

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327535
I wait about 4 days for branching rules and drops for girls I want and maybe laugh at people suffering until I suffer myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327547
Kuso

[Anonymous No.]

Game is working very slow or is it just me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327535
My new plan is to tackle 1-2 maps every other day with expedition days in between. But start precisely on day 3-4 so I can get E-1 out of the way and hopefully get Ooyodo for E-4 and E-5.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't bother running into maps blind. Waiting for people with short fuse / no patience to go in first is the smart thing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327614
Must be you, I'm doing fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327614
Mine is constantly crapping itself, even though I changed API several times. Asagumo, let me sparkle my Inazuma. 5 sorties and she's still below 70 morale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327614
My KCviewer's been giving me a few errors here and there for about an hour now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327647
>still not converting to cookie master race

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327658
Cookie doesn't show morale and lacks nice list of ships/eq.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327662
Use KCV then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327663
That's what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327668

>getting banned

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327668
then you're using an edited cookie

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327673
Not with ¥4.5k spent

>>13327675
Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327676
KCV doesn't use an API link

[Anonymous No.]

Logbook master race, faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327662
>muh cheat program hidden information display exploit
Play like a real man, you little faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327676
Do they really not ban people if they bought stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327698
No idea. I know I refresh when I get sent east on 5-1 or when my ships are taiha'd and I accidentally proceed. You can't get banned for KCV because it doesn't interfere with data.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327622
That's no fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327681
It does, oh wait now I've revealed that I am a KCV faggot

Taihou NEVAH EVAH

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
Welp you faggots were right.
Gotta work on that baux

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
I hope 60k bauxite is enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
More CV kai2 when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
Something about carriers, right? dont believe their lies, remember Midway? Fuck that, I was kinda close to not finish it because I farmed way too much bauxite

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
The Spring 2015 Event "Announcing Operation #11!" is going to start in the last week of April. It's planned to go on for about 20 days, and completing this operation will allow you to encounter new ship girls such as an Italian ship girl. In order to complete this operation a well-trained aircraft carrier-centric Carrier Task Force is going to be important as well!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787

Will 3 CVs and 2 CVLs be enough?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327859
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327859
What would you do if I said no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
>mfw double aerial phase is back

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327866

Blow all of my resources on trying to craft Taihou while hoping the failures are the CVs I don't have, and then blow all everything else trying to craft more Reppuus.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think trying to craft and level a CV with these resources is a good idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327881
You are fucked. We told you to stockpile.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327867
Ever heard of 1-6?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327881
You are fucked. Not because of your resources, but your buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327886
>>13327894
I'm going to do nothing but bucket expeditions on 3 fleets for the next week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327888

No, you fucking retard. That doesn't count. I'm talking about the simultaneous plane fight like Midway.

[Anonymous No.]

So, I got Akagi, Kaga and the dragons, whats a good place to level them? 3-2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327910
Levels don't matter, especially for Reppuu mules

[Anonymous No.]

I want the cranes so bad, god damn it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327921
Levels = Evasion
Go be an idiot elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327921
I'll pay you $1000 and use only lvl 1 CVs in the last hard mode EO map and clear it. If you can't, consider suicide. How's that sound?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev/kcplayer.php?c=582v4

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327921
Thanks Wo, you are my greatest ally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327935
Those 5% aren't worth your time and ressources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327931

>mfw I just tried to craft Zuikaku and got a duplicate Shoukaku instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327931
I just need them and Taihou, but the bitches won't show up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327909
>mfw double aerial phase is back
>1-6 doesn't count
Sure, whatever you say, not going to argue with someone intellectually incapable as you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327946
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
I only have two CV's, just how fucked am I and is it really that big that CVL's can't make up for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327959
Very
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327940
>tfw I barely can get one Reppuu a day
What should I do? Still aim for more Reppuu or just stockpile my baux?
I don't even have Shidens K2, which are apparently easier to get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327959
Easy mode will be easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327956
If you think that 1-6 counts as a EO map which features the standard DAP, then I'd rather not to talk to a retard like you either. You're most likely a scrub who didn't have fun in Midway nor get Isokaze, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327962
Just pray, I only have 6 in total.

[Anonymous No.]

Reppuu Kai or 601 in Akashi's arsenal never. I just want to waste my 38 Reppuu and counting here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327962
Reppuus don't matter
You are too paranoid
20k bauxite is enough
wwwwwww

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327980
Maybe Katsuragi will be a reward this event and give us that option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327931
>fire director
>Zuikaku k2 the only CV that can do AACI with green planes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327983
All true but you forgot that AACI are useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327968
>now mentioning EO
Keep going, and keep showing the world that you are someone who is too retarded to hold an argument.
Or just simply stop. It's already painful too see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327984
She won't appear in this event since there's no prior notice other than the Italian BB. The devs will probably spam new DDs again to us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327946
I said be an idiot elsewhere.
Do you know what elsewhere means?
It means, not this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328000
How am I an idiot? CV will just be Reppuu mule again and it doesn't matter if your mule gets moderately damaged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327995
You could have just admitted that you're the one who's retarded here without a valid argument and stop moving goal post. What's the matter, anon. Can't show your Isokaze nor e-peen medal here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328003
Yeah it doesn't matter if my chuha CV dodges that last pre-boss hit or not
Who cares if she goes taiha, right


You're a disgrace to the human race

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327996
They did say the ship rewards this time would be diverse. Some events they give a ton of info up front, some they hold it all back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328018
No amount of levels can save you from RNG

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327996
We didn't know we were getting Katori or Ro until the start of the event, just Amagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328029
They said a foreign sub was coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328019
Considering we've barely had information about the new ships, it's safely to assume that it's not going to be interesting nor dynamic diversity.

>>13328029
They did say about the training ship and foreign sub.

[Anonymous No.]

Will the pizza have comrades? She'll be lonely otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328009
Sorry, I see no point providing argument with someone as incapable as you. You either figure it out yourself or just stay in your bliss ignorance and call me retard, retard. Not going to reply to you anymore, we have actual discussions in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, time to scuttle myself

[Anonymous No.]

I hope this works. Fuck this RNG, lend me your complaining power, /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328052
Read the thread idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328051
>9 saiun
Recon is important too!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328051
9 Saiun, what

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328052
Maruyu!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328056
T-thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328052
Mutslug'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328052

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328059
Remember the nips didn't win the ww2 because their recon is shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328058
I'd rather take Maruyus over Ises and Kongous, really.
It's always them all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328051
>Reppu
Stop the paranoia already

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328052
Naka-chan dayo~

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328071
>>13328063
>>13328062
>>13328058
FUCK ___

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328052
I bet it's Fusou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328049
Let me spell it out to you. 1-6 doesn't count. Here's why:

1-6 is hardly challenging. Everyone knows it already. If you think that counts as an EO map, then you have to be retarded.
Just because it has DAP doesn't mean it's the same method as the Midway event. Their execution is different.

You did nothing but be defensive and provide no argument at all. The one who's incapable of holding argument is none other than YOU, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328074
Congratulations for your new BBV!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328074
Well it's hardly surprising

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328074

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328052
Take my power!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328074
Try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328078
>Their execution is different.
How?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328074

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328026
Do you understand was "tipping the odds" means?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328052
Wait, what fucking recipes is this anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328089
You're not a bright person, are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328096
It's either hotels or the german beauty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328090
Hiryuu looks so soft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328094

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328097
Spell it out for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328097
You can't explain, can you?

>>13328104
Then scuttle yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328099
I'm definitely behind the times I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328096
Looks like he mixed up the ammo and steel of the Taihou one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328109
Check Summer Event 2014 E-3 and 1-6. It's not that hard to notice the differences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328113
Is this the part where I feel sad for him?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328110
>Then scuttle yourself
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328087
I was only intending on doing one LSC, was hoping that I could at least get a CV, but apparently that's not a thing, which is odd because the only CV I have been able to craft is Hiryuu (twice).
>>13328096
I just looked and realized that I swapped Ammo with Steel by mistake, but was going for Taihou or literally any CV no Akagi/Hiryuu. Oh well, possibly saved me 3k steel, so that's one plus of this failure.
>>13328117
No, this is the part where you lend me your strength as I attempt my last attempt of an actual ship before this event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328113
>>13328124
Let me laugh harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328124
I hope it's not Chitose/Chiyoda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328116
It is. It's really hard to see it.
Now spell it out for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328124

Chiyoda

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328124
Taihou requires 5k steel, really

But sure, sure take my power

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328124
Not a CV

[Anonymous No.]

Show your highest level carriers /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328124
Baux is more important than steel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328078
You are stupid but I can see you are at least willing so I'd help you here.
See your first post again. You mentioned nothing about challenging nor EO, neither did I. Nothing about Midway event nor their execution. Please, you could do better here.
>Just because it has DAP
This is all what matters. It's still DAP whether it's challenging or not. See it?
Try again by saying something other than "mfw double aerial phase is back" then probably you could say 1-6 doesn't count because it's piss easy or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137
Hiryuu at level 59.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328044
Maybe she'll have the same type of entourage as Bismarck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328135
>>13328131
>>13328129
Can't be bothered to take a pic, but it was Shouhou.
>>13328138
I know, just looking at what little bright side I had.
>>13328134
I know, was just going for a basic rare aircarft recipe.

Time to do litlle to nothing for the next few weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

How many ktkms,ooi, and sendais should I keep?

I have so many of them lined up but no idea how to get them to kai ni fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137
>tfw I took my cranes up to kai just to do the quest
>tfw I never used them again
At least the rest of my carriers are 60 and up. If there is ship locking then they will see daylight once again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137

[Anonymous No.]

Now, I feel like a tremendous pile of shit.I didn't level my Chitose CVL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328074

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328148
It's too late to grind them unless you want to start the event late. If you still have space, just keep them until the event is over and get their equipment if you like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328148
1

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328157
Not planning to grind them for the event, I already have lesbians at kai ni and Sendai on her way there.

Just asking 'cause I've heard ttks saying you could k2 them in a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328139
>Nothing about Midway event
This is what I implied in the fucking first place, moron. When I said "back" means I'm looking at the DAP execution in Midway, not 1-6's execution where the enemy HAS A DAP and YOU DON'T with DD/CL. There are no simultaneous plane fight like I've been saying. See what I'm telling you here? No, you don't because you are a closet-minded retard. Now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

We will have to move on soon (well maybe not soon, eventally) but the other thread feel unsettling for whatever reason.

>>13328137

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328173
You're not forced to do it with DD/CL

[Anonymous No.]

Please no combined fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328173
>you are a closet-minded retard
You're both, for fuck sake. now let me educate both of you : it's an anonymous imageboard, nobody fucking cares about who's going to win on a silly argument like this one, and you know it. So stop fucking up the thread even more than it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328183
I have bad news for you anon...

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people such dicks in pvp.

[Anonymous No.]

Waiting all day for PVP to level up my girls fast and things like that happens. Fuck me

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328173
I can clearly see you realized your stupidity but of course you won't admit it. Congrats, you made a progress, but you still have a long way ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328193
At least that TTK didn't put hotel(s) or 4BBs and 2CVs

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328191
They aren't

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328181
And why would you waste bauxite against Wo's with hellcats? It's not conventional method.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328195
>I have no argument so I'm just going to look at your stupidity instead of mine

Here's your fresh greentext because you are clearly INCAPABLE OF PROVIDING AN ARGUMENT. Now kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328200
So you agree that double air phase is back but you just don't want to use it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137
Blue dragon 88, ntryuu 83, reppu slut 73, Akagi 72.

[Anonymous No.]

But if I lose to such fleet I would get more than 2 exp each girl though.

[Anonymous No.]

How important will CVLs be compared to CVs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328210
I already provided everything I need to on my earlier post.
>I'm so mad because he can see I'm so stupid
Don't worry about your stupidity anon, I won't tell anyone. This is an anonymous board after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137
This is what I get for leveling CAs instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328213

So the majority uses the CVL method instead of DD/CL? If yes, then I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328233
The answer is no and you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137
RIP

I'm just going to Kai Shoukaku and Souryuu and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328239
I wish I could hug you, married kai Souryuu and Unryuu up there makes me really happy. I feel like a traitor having her in k2 form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328228
You did provide your puny little argument to hide your embarrassment, and I did counter it. What did you reply next? Nothing. Maybe if you should stop dodging the subject and spewing ad hominem, then you could have better ideas than not looking at your own stupidity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328239
Smile: Secured.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328239
>Hiryuu kai 2

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137
Got zuikaku 2 times on last event.
Mistaking it for Zuihou, scrapped.
Now, I got nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328239
You don't want your superior bomber plane?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328272
>intending to scrap zuihou
>being a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328259
Are you saying that you can't understand what I said up there? I didn't provide anything more since I think that's more than enough and I thought you understand them so I interpreted your "fuck off" and "kill yourself" as "enough, I understand, please stop embarrassing me" so I stopped. Now you want more? Your counter is basically just repeating what you said before, so I'm sure this is not going anywhere, all I can say now if you want reply go back and read my posts and your posts again. I give up if you still can't understand and you can call me retard as you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137
I'm quite ready.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328300

>Are you saying that you can't understand what I said up there?
And yet you disregard all of what I've been saying nor interpreting. You never learn to give up, and so do I because I just want to protect my opinion. We both wasted our time here.

[Anonymous No.]

So what is more worse?
Single fleet with double himes or combined fleet with three himes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328371
Single fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328371
>more worse

[Anonymous No.]

>he sparkles his ships

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328371
Single, but CF was worse since it had terrible branching rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328385
I hope you at least sparkle for expedition fleets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
What are the chances I should save the second kaga I just crafted in case of locking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328396
None.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328385
Look at this pretentious faggot / luck shitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328409
He probably has an id2 beaver and id3 turkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>7 reppuu
>have not crafted anymore in ages due to kuso luck

>only 4 CV and 4 CVL at anything close to a respectable level

>10k baux
How doomed am I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328463
Do easy mode.

[Anonymous No.]

I have KTKM with 51 luck and 5x Maruyu, should I give the luck to her or to someone else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328463
Better than me. Akagi lv 5x, Kaga 4x and Hiryuu 3x. If I had Shoukaku/Zuikaku would be better but not like I have any luck on CVs

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328508
Give it to Poi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328509

I only have Akagi, Souryuu, and Shoukaku, so you're doing better than I am.

[Anonymous No.]

What are the chances the event won't be carrier heavy at all and all of us get trolled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328527
You have Shoukaku but not even a Kaga?
How?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328533
You have to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328533
0/ You better not cry to us in the future that you don't have enough working CV/Reppuu/LoS/etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328550
But I'm doing ez modo anyways.

>>13328540
Don't underestimate the No-Kaga Club.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328542
Tanaka-san, please no.

[Anonymous No.]

Will anyone even use this thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328604
Everyone with more than half a brain uses it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327797
>>13327801
Was what they said for summer 2014. Turns out you didn't.

>>13327980
In a couple years, be patient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327909
>>13327968
>>13328009
>>13328078
>an EO map has to be difficult for it to count as an EO map
>forgetting that you CAN send CAVs, BBVs and CVLs to 1-6
My little anon can't be this retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328200
So as not to fuck up your win rate? Sure it should be hovering in the high 90s in percentage but there are people who are that autistic about their win rate.

[Anonymous No.]

For those who have experienced Midway, how much baux did the event cost you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328663
Can't remember but it was much less than steel. Maybe around 20k, 30k tops.

[Anonymous No.]

>carrier focus
God fucking damn it. Do I seriously have to actually get Chitose and Chiyoda to CVL status and use them? Because I seriously dislike the two, and only Junyou/Hiyou are viable after those two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328663
Less than 40k inclusive farming for drops

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328663
Maybe around 50-60k? I had terrible luck with that whole event though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328682
Anon, weren't you warned like a bajillion times to make sure you had a diverse fleet?

Besides, if it's anything like MI, you just need some solid CVs unless they bring in ship locking again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328699
>ship locking again
That's what I'm afraid of. My CVs are fine. Junyou and Hiyou are fine. I just dislike Chitose/Chiyoda and never wanted to use them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328682
>>13328705
Why do you hate them that much? They're pretty good CVLs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328682
You're making a story out of a non-story. Just fucking keep a few.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328699
Please be ship locking. I'd like to have another ship locking event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328760

pls no

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328645
EO, by its definition, has to have some weight on level of difficulty whether the maps are normal worlds or event-only. Even if you send your big guns, there's no challenge to it, there isn't merit to do it, and it's not worth doing it. Obtaining medals are better than pitiful amount of random resources and a present box, and I believe they would fix it sooner or later. So did you send CAVs, BBVs, and CVLs? If yes, then you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328663
Somewhere around 10k~20k. I didn't farm any map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328760
I'm good either way. Ship locking would force me to plan out a little bit more ahead of time, but it's definitely doable. Part of me kind of wants it just to screw over underprepared TTK.

If I were the devs, I'd make it so that ship locking occurs at the higher difficulty levels, but with better, exclusive rewards to compensate. Making the Italian BB exclusive to a hard event clear with ship locking would be the right combination of difficulty and reward for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328814
>Making the Italian BB exclusive to a hard event clear with ship locking would be the right combination of difficulty and reward for me.
Too bad the srubs and casuals won't like this so it'll never happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328814

>Making the Italian BB exclusive to a hard event clear with ship locking

I'll take "Things that will absolutely not happen" for $1000, Alex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328820
>>13328821
I'm not saying it's likely.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's just another trophy DD for E-6. At least it'll probably come with another e-peen medal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328814
Uh, no, I don't think ship locking can be combined with difficulty levels that easily. If anything you have to decide whether to lock ships before you clear the first map.

[Anonymous No.]

This is what I want the most from the event:
Quest to finish all maps on hard, gives golden blueprint (Yamato, Musashi, Nagato, Mutsu, Kaga, Akagi, Taihou)
Alternatively you can get a golden blueprint from 3 A-class medals or 25 regular medals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328814
The Italian BB is the feature for this event and will be definitely available to all.
If they do make a difficulty exclusive ship it'll probably be a trophy DD, a previous event ship, or a second Italian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328655
How the fuck does win/lose ration come into place?
> people who are that autistic about their win rate

Funny to say you're just making shit up. I think I had 10 runs in total to clear 1-6, which means you will have 10 D ranks along the way. If they're that autistic then they can just run 1-1 100 times, right? You clearly just want to fit in to our discussion when you're few hours late. Do you feel that lonely that you don't have someone to talk to? Here's your reply then.

[Anonymous No.]

>my event preperation

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328841
That's a good point. But they could still implement it by only keeping your ships locked if you've sortied an event map on hard difficulty.

Players that switch difficulties or just picked easy or normal to begin with get their fleets unlocked and if you switch back to hard on a map or any later maps, the locks come back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328881
Not to say that won't be impossible, but it'd be a bit harder to implement. Besides I'd say having locks being separate from difficulty tiers would be better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328848
>I think I had 10 runs in total to clear 1-6
>needing 10 runs to clear 1-6

>If they're that autistic then they can just run 1-1 100 times, right?
It doesn't work that way. At that point it's a lot easier to lower the win rate than keep it high. You'll need at least 200 wins to balance out one loss, and they'll want their only losses to be during events, not during some cheap EO.

>You clearly just want to fit in to our discussion when you're few hours late. Do you feel that lonely that you don't have someone to talk to? Here's your reply then.
>this projection

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328814
>fucking over majority of their playerbase
>a good idea ever for any game
I thought most NEETs were just lazy, not blissfully ignorant of how the world works.

[Anonymous No.]

How should I equip CAVs? Two red guns for double attacks and two Zuiuns? Nothing but Zuiuns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328846
Amagi being the E-5 prize was a huge cockblock for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328910
Since I couldn't remember how may runs did it take to clear it, I guessed about 10 on top of my head, but you can infer that I got 100% win rate without any retreat.

>You'll need at least 200 wins to balance out one loss
[citation needed]

>they'll want their only losses to be during events, not during some cheap EO.
Man, those autistic ratiofags sure are more autistic than rankfags, huh? That's so hardcore and totally believable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328923
Replace wrench with shells, radars whatever

Double planes are rarely used and only for air sup

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328239
Smile protected. Not bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328912
Stupidity is widespread. Like people who don't want to pay 1 dollar in a cash shop, but gladly grind 8 hours a day for a week to get the same item.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329025
Which isn't bad in and of itself, but then those people go an act as if they're better than people who don't mind spending money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328964
>Since I couldn't remember how may runs did it take to clear it, I guessed about 10 on top of my head, but you can infer that I got 100% win rate without any retreat.
7 runs.

>muh [citation needed] maymay
Fine, it's 199 wins, not 200+.

To keep win rate listed at 100%, the actual win rate has to be at least 99.5%. In other words, you can afford one loss for every 199 wins you have.

Did you fail your mathematics or something?

>Man, those autistic ratiofags sure are more autistic than rankfags, huh? That's so hardcore and totally believable.
What I mentioned was just fucking common sense for anyone who gives half a shit over win rates other than the prerequisite needed to participate in an event.

Also there are different tiers of autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329038
I'm sorry but I don't believe on your bullshit.
Pic related. My autism can't be top by anyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329057
>99% sortie win rate
>97% PvP win rate
>My autism can't be top by anyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328798
If what you said was right, they'd have made it a map for only DDs and CLs to begin with.

>EO, by its definition, has to have some weight on level of difficulty whether the maps are normal worlds or event-only.
'no'

In a typical event, there are easy maps, moderate maps, and one hard map. It's just that the one hard map tends to be an EO map because it's usually at the end. But that also means that if there are at least two EOs, at least one of them won't be hard.

I bet you thought spring E4 2014 was hard, right. I didn't even spend a single bucket on that map.

>Even if you send your big guns, there's no challenge to it, there isn't merit to do it, and it's not worth doing it.
There's no challenge even if you send 1 CL 5 DDs either, though. It's just that losing on that node hits you harder psychologically than, say, subcheesing 4-2 or 5-3 and encountering all sub nodes, because the enemy can damage you but you can't damage them.

>Obtaining medals are better than pitiful amount of random resources and a present box
75 ranking points. I'd take 1-6 over 30+ 5-4 runs any day.

>So did you send CAVs, BBVs, and CVLs?
I'm just waiting for compass rules to be finalised.

>If yes, then you're retarded.
Okay, whatever you want to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329073
Provide me a better result then. If there is, then I will congratulate him for being the most autistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329073
>My autism
Well since we're comparing it. I don't come close to this dude, though.

[Anonymous No.]

After my repeated 1-6 kuso'ing and 5-4 subcheese my win% has finally dropped to 98%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329079
I'm not sure if I want to be congratulated though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329079
Here's one I found looking through the archives.

Will post my own in a short while.

[Anonymous No.]

This is from my friend. The guy don't want to lose any battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329115
>>13329117
Oh wow, that's actually mine. That's pretty cool I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329120
doesn't*

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329057
Rank god or just typical 3-2-A/1-1 spam/2-3 sub slaver?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329117
>Will post my own in a short while.
Meant for >>13329089

Anyway, I'm nowhere as autistic as them, as shown, and I know it myself. I don't have the energy to for such high levels of autism at this point.

>>13329131
A rank god would have a "much" lower sortie win rate than he has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329138
>665
So close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329120
I remember when I started my friend's account going I had a 100% win rate for sorties, PvP and expeditions.

After I handed the reins to him, the first thing he did was to fail an expedition.

[Anonymous No.]

>Those scrubs who don't have e-peen medal
How embarrassing.Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329150
Same only I did a BB recipe before giving it to him. ID 2 Nagato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329151
Because that's a dumb reason to kill myself over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329154
>ID 2 Nagato.
Holy shit post screenshot.

Wouldn't have done that myself though, never believed in BB recipes early on. Cleared 2-4 without subs, BBs or artillery spotting.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care these numbers anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329151
>Implying I even know what the e-peen medal is
Feels good to be new

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329151

>caring about the e-peen medal

Until it's needed to remodel something to Kai San who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327787
>航空母艦を基幹戦力とした空母機動部隊の充実も大切です
I hope they don't overdo haado moodo

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329151
because we're not le ebig neet xD

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329151
Show me your Shinden kai or kill yourself, e-peen medal is for casuals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13327848
>a well-trained aircraft carrier-centric Carrier Task Force is going to be important as well
That says nothing about huge bauxite use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329296
Stop projecting just because you don't have the medal, nobody here has Shinden Kai.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw all your CVs & CVL are shit
>tfw you barely have any good planes
How fucked will I be for the event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329318
>nobody here has Shinden Kai
And many people has e-peen medal, this is exactly what makes you a casual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328051
>Ryuusei Kai and Saiun
Man...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328052
If you were going for Taihou, you fucked up the recipe. She was waiting for you, anon but you failed to deliver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329338
40% of the playerbase cannot be considered as many people. Stop being butthurt because you don't have the medal, scrub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329338
Not him but I thought the number of people with the e-peen medal was only like 40%?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329363
>>13329368
20% would be casual already, 40% is very casual.

Even Isokaze is more of a trophy and she's not really anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329363
>no Shinden Kai
>tries to be elitist

[Anonymous No.]

>>13328137

[Anonymous No.]

I finished pvp and went to bathe without swapping fleet, came back to this.
How does one lose to a fleet with 3 low level filler ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329400
I know some people send 6DD regardless of the result, for exp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13329400
I won't waste precious resources in beating 2 hotels, specially if I have low level ships to level.