Kantai Collection ~KanColle~

[Anonymous No.]

Less bitching, more discussing.

Previous thread: >>13248079

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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle

Recent Updates:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net
Combat Mechanics:
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%C0%EF%C6%AE%A4%CB%A4%C4%A4%A4%A4%C6
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat
Voices, Sprites, Furnitures Preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev
KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
Sanaechan Logbook: https://github.com/silfumus/logbook-EN/releases

PSP Vita Game (27 August 2015): http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Kai (PSV) trailer: https://youtu.be/8tEvFFtSh0E
Dengeki Online article about the KanColle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096

News:
-Spring 2015 event announced for April, along with non-German foreign BB
-Murakumo Kai2 on 10 April
-Mutsuki-class DD Kai2 sometime in Spring
-TYPE-MOON x KanColle Event (TBA) (More like never)

[Anonymous No.]

Should I consider clearing 3-5? I mean I already have a blueprint and will use it for my ever helpful Fusou.Also, I am leveling my other girls as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262453
There're several more good Kai2 that require blueprint (Choukai, Tone, Chikuma, ...) so you'd better start farming those medals.

[Anonymous No.]

>no general
>no /kcg/
>advertising your shitty tools
>making yet another thread
fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262465
>>no general
>>no /kcg/
Implying that's a bad thing.
You must be the same guy saying this should move to /vg/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262460
I am also leveling Tone but my fuel is below 5k and I don't want to stress myself more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262465
>Getting butthurt because it's not one of his shitty threads.

>>13262470
I you think you're not ready for it yet then just ignore that for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262465
Go to the /vg/ thread if you want /kcg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262470
If you're not low ignore it, 3-5 is too luck based. No matter which route you take you can get fucked in the ass by RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262474
>you think you're not ready for it
Thanks.I'll just focus on leveling my girls.

>>13262478
Well, RNG fucked me in the ass when I was trying to clear 4-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262478
>If you're not low
If you're that low*

[Anonymous No.]

So bets on what stat Murakumo kai2 will specialise in?

What are your expectations for the sprite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262438
>along with non-German foreign BB
It's Italian BB according to Twitter.
>今月四月下旬以降に、「艦これ」春イベント2015：期間限定海域を開催すべく、現在準備を進めています。同春イベ期間限定海域では、「イタリア生まれの艦娘」を含む複数の新艦娘を実装する予定です。お楽しみに！

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262465
You mad fag? Stop stalking the us and go back to your containment board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262488
She probably will just get Hatsuharu kai 2 tier stat.
At least I hope the new sprite will be as good as her valentine one. Though since this artist's works are completely hit or miss I aren't keeping my hope up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262465
That faggot who kept trying to push his /kcg/ threads finally snapped

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262465
Come here
>>>/vg/99074401

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262540
And now he's samefagging himself. Absolutely pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262558
I'm pretty sure almost every post in the /vg/ threads is also him with proxies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262521
I just hope they do something with her sword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262642
It's a spear.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the quickest way to get Sendai to her Kai2?

Currently got her at 48 and am grinding 1-5 but is there a quicker way? I don't feel like 3-2 A is really reliable for grinding since 1-5 is quicker and more efficient in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262697
4-3

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262697
If you're still below level 80 keep doing 1-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262488
>What are your expectations for the sprite?

As long as they don't ruin the floats, I'm fine.

[Anonymous No.]

the things on murakumos shins make her look like a battletoad

just sayin

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262715
Seeing what happened to Hatsuharu, I am more worried about her pantyhose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262762

Just believe.

[Anonymous No.]

Got this semen demon from 2-5 hot damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262793
Goddamn voice mismatch though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262793
To bad she isn't sadist or yandere but still best DD

[Anonymous No.]

Should I upgrade my SS to Submarine Tenders for Orel farming and tanking exp runs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262939
>SS to AS
What

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262939
Taigei is the only one Submarine Tender. To answer your question, upgrade one set of subs and leave rest as SS if you plan to subslave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262944
>>13262946

My apologies, I confused the terms. I was referring to the subs that upgrade into SSV. So, let them stay SS for just tanking, upgrade when they are supposed to kill stuff by themselves (like Orel)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262793
>tfw I have Naganami and Makigumo but I still don't have her
What is the best place to get her? 2-5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262972
If you want maximum efficiency don't remodel them, but if you don't care just do it since the difference is not that big and you can keep using subs until they're in red and then bucket them

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262975
Just don't think about getting her, she'll come to you.

>>13262980
This is true unless you plan to use subs in higher lvl maps with the cut-in.

Ideally you want to teams of subs though, one remodlled and one at base.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262697
I wish I grinded her at 1-5 when my hq lvl was still under 80, but then I remember how grinding killed my interest in many a game.

[Anonymous No.]

Would beating the next event on hard be possible for me? Have 320 buckets

I have around 20 level 70+ Kai ni's and level 30 level 60+. Bunch at level 50s and below. A nice mix of ship type, except for CA's (only 2), CL's (only 2) and CLT (only 1) that are level 60 or 70+.
Equips are decent, 4 ap shells, bunch of type 3s. 3x 46 cm guns, 5 reppu's, 4 shiden kai nis. Saiuns, Type 2 recons, standard night equips etc.
Probably forgetting to mention a few others

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263063

>level 30 level 60+
That was supposed to be 30x level 70+. I'm autistic as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263065
Holy fuck 30x level 60+

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263063
>2 CAs
>2 CLs
>1 CLT
No.

[Anonymous No.]

Kitakami-sama complaining about how heavy her torpedoes are always makes my dick rock hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263118
Calm down, Ooi.

[Anonymous No.]

So what was the reason you started playing this game?
I was attracted by Shimakaze clothes around fall 2013 and decided to give it a shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
The prospect of achieving this.
But mostly Hibiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
All the doujins and fanart.

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>>13263172
Saw lots of Kongou fanart and liked her general artwork. That was around last December. Forgot about it for a while because I wasn't too interested and joining seemed to complicated so I waited a bit.

Joined during mid February earlier this year, still sad that I didn't give it a shot earlier.

Also, >>13263185

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263137
Futafag pls go

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
All the semen demons that kept popping up on sadpanda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
Google been flooded with shipgirls when I searched for actual warships, so I decided to see what the fuss is all about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
I always had interest in playing the game due to the harem prospects, but knowing of a potential marriage mechanic was what decided things.

Took me a while to join though; only got in early December 2013.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/a/123400576

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
Was lured in by Shimakaze's design but in the end, I grow to love my starter DD.I joined around late January this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263215
It doesn't matter what S2 will have. What matters is our game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263215
Great news

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263220
Still, best class is getting what it deserves. Let's hope Harusame appears too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263231
No one cared who she was till she took off her legs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
I don't really remember. I had heard about the game around april last year and after looking up what it actually was I decided to play a bit before the Midway event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263235
>Implying I didn't care about Harusame
She was my first event ship, so I cared about her before she went abyss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263235
This guy know what up

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263235
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
Anime and boredom

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
The 4koma and then Yahagi and that interview with one of her old crew member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172

This video from last years April Fools Day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hCAm3xikJA

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263285
So are we finally getting that Type Moon event once we get that Italian BB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
The rivalry with Touhou.
Now I'm hooked on both.
I thought KanColle was shit at first (the first few HQ levels really I nit-picked at random stuff), but then I genuinely started to like the games, the Kanmusu and the fanworks.

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>>13263359
No.

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>>13263359

Maybe? I have no idea right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172

The presence of the Kreigsmarine, Fumikane's involvement, me being a WW2 buff and wanting to try something new due to being bored of everything else I loved doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263359
Sure.

[Anonymous No.]

What kind of low-effort team did this guy put together?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263425
One time somebody failed to kill one sub, they must have forgotten to bring somebody that can actually attack them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
Porn.

I liked some of the designs, specifically Nagato, and decided I wanted to try the game.

Around that time Yamato was released, and that was around when I just unlocked LSC. One thing led to another and I frequently blew all my resources on LSC trying for a Yamato. Ended up getting a Kongou. Then ran out of dev materials and decided to take a break.

Now I'm back again, back for the Kongou's broken adorable engrish, and blowing all my resources on Yamato LSC again. Would be Bismarck but I don't have that available yet.

One day I'll get my Nagato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
Atago. But her art was so few at that time around Aug. 2013 plus the game quite obscure I just decided to try it out just for kicks. Got in on my first lottery at the same month at Truk.

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>>13263172
Originally I was intrigued at the popularity of Kancolle. I saw images and stuff everywhere. To be honest, the popularity actually drove me away from it. (I know, I was a judgemental hipster faggot.) I figured that if they ever made an anime about it I'd give it a try. Once the anime started, I figured I'd actually learn what the game was and try to play it. Starting the anime and the game at the same time was really enjoyable. Also porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263516
I also started the game along with the anime and it made desdiv 6's antics that much more enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263520
That was the only good episode. Desdiv6 a cute.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you play with the sound on /jp/? Personally, I have it off most of the time because the repetitive quotes can get a bit annoying. Still feel like a kuso for doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263527
I think it's unfair that only one of them has a kai ni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263536
Playing the game without the crit sfx is unsatisfying.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any reason to use BBVs over BBs outside of being able to hit subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
This video:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21895373

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263551
When you need air superiority and firepower. The Fusous were really useful last event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263551
Fusou is best waifu. I'm gonna marry her tonight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263570
Hey, congratulations Anon. I wish the two of you happiness!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263570

>tiny hands

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263579
Thanks!

>>13263580
I don't judge. I could probably fit her whole fist in my mouth and that's hot. Besides, her hands are normal sized in her damaged sprite. ...Not that I'd keep her that way or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck.I do not know who to Kai Ni first, Fusou or Kongou?.Fusou is 61 and was there to help me to clear E-2 last event while Kongou, I got her after the event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263599
Well, Fusou requires a blueprint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263606
I already have a blueprint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263599
Do you have a blueprint already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263599

Kongou is best girl and doesn't require a blueprint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263599
Is that even a question? Kongou a shit.

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>>13263609
I'd rather go for one of the Tones first, but just follow your heart, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

You can't really keep a DD as your flagship/secretary can you? Eventually I'm going to have to find a battleship or carrier to take over her role, won't I?

[Anonymous No.]

What Kai Nis are you working on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263616
I will get Fusou her Kai Ni after sometime

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263624
>You can't really keep a DD as your flagship/secretary can you?
Are you fucking kidding me TTK? Some DDs make great waifus. No need for classism you kusolord.

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>>13263627
Tone's my big project right now, just got my first blueprint yesterday and got her to Kai. I just need to get a good setup going for 3-2 grinding and I'll put a good amount of time into her. Working on Jintsuu and Haruna on the side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263627
Sendai, Maya, and Chiyoda. After them, probably Ushio and Shigure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263624
Your flagship/secretary will change over and over regardless of class so don't worry about it.

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>>13263643
I also want to work on either Tone or Chikuma (Probably Tone) and Myoukou soon. I probably won't have another blueprint till after the event though.

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>>13263629
Ayanami, Jintsu, Junyou & Ryuujou.The carriers comes last since I can level them fairly easily. Fubuki and Kongou too if I will have enough time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263633
I just feel bad relagating my favorite shipdaughter to support. Plus I don't get to hear her wonderful voice.

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>>13263624
The Secretary ship is not necessary the fleet flagship (that changes from Map to Map), but the one you leave around to poke when you're not sortieing or just doing expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

9 attempts for a hotel. Almost didn't do this LSC just now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263627
None at the moment because I need to get more fuel.
Tone, Haruna, and Sendai are next on the list though.

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>>13263662
They should have a secretary item that works similarly to marriage. You'd only get one, but you could move it to different ships.

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>>13263627
Choukai and Bismarck.

[Anonymous No.]

What ship should I feed Maruyus first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263682

your waifu, of course

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263627
Isuzu, Tone, Nachi

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>>13263627
This past week I got Haruna, Kirishima, Tone, Naka, Myoukou, Fubuki. Haguro and Ashigara about 1-2 levels away. And some at Kai too.
Working on Nachoes, Maya, Ayanami, Murakumo and possibly Chitose depending on how much time I have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263676
It would be nice.

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>>13263682
Kitakami and Ooi.

[Anonymous No.]

>no /kcg/

Took me so long to find this in the catalog.

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>>13263674
Congratulations. I abandoned LSC after running my resources to zero since the event was announced.
Decided to work on what I have right now instead of chasing after a maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263715
Just type kant, it's actually faster to do that with qwerty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263715
Just search of Kantai Collection already...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263721
>kant

hehe

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263724

[Anonymous No.]

The first three people who post their email address at least exactly three minutes after this post was created will receive a 4chan pass. Don't forget to post a picture of your favorite ship if you don't want to be disqualified.

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished monthly 1-5 and 2-5 for the medals, yet I didn't get a single ship drop from nodes through the sorties. What.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263761
Ship slots full? Equipment slots full?

[Anonymous No.]

The upcoming event would be my first event ever and I've started stockpiling since last Saturday.

Do I still have a chance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263754
No candidate, the contest is cancelled.

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>>13263770
Next time do it with a Kancolle account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263767
Natural regen is enough.

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>>13263779

>mfw my natural regen cap is 7500, I have a measly 31 buckets, and I can't even clear 2-4

I don't think there's an Italian BB in my future.

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>>13263766
I went full retard. My equipment slots were already full.
>>13263767
If the event has difficulty setting, maybe you could finish it in easy mode.

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>>13263779

Yeah, about that, I'm only level 71(started out a couple of months ago.) Natural regen is out of the question for my Fuel, munitions and steel since it'll only go up to 18k. Been brute forcing my expeditions (i.e. sparkling my expedition fleet) to gain more and I've taken the dive in sending a fleet to do the 80hr expedition (they should be back sunday morning) so I can get the expedition 38 and 39 for more resource income.

Buckets are coming along well with the dailies. I had a bad luck with them in expedition 2 in the past few days.

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>>13263783
If you're lucky they'll give the BB away as the first ship, with the rest of them being trophys. That's how the last event was, at least.

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>>13262438
Also on twitter.
>また、この春はその前級や、別の特型駆逐艦娘の改二改装も予定しています。
>Furthermore, in Spring we have plans to implement Kai-2 modifications for [Murakumo's] previous class, as well as another Special-class DD girl.

We'll be getting another Special-class DD Kai-2 incoming aside from Murakumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263792
>[Murakumo's] previous class
Mutsuki class?

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>>13263627
I got Choukai on Friday and finished leveling Maya on Tuesday. Today I continued grinding Fubuki. I'm also working on Naka and Haruna, and after I finish with them I'll probably go for Ayanami, Jintsuu, Myoukou and Ashigara. I feel proud for managing to get a kai ni the same day it was implemented.

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>>13263794
>Mutsuki class?
Correct. Nothing specific as to which one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263754
>>13263770
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

New player here, why is everyone stockpiling a ton of resources for the event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263817
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Events

[Anonymous No.]

Should I care about the sub in 4-4 final kill?

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>>13263817

Because an event will take a fucking toll on your resources.

Remember that sortie that cause your ships to go on the red (whether it be from the boss being a tough one or RNG fucking you in the ass) that forced you to retreat so you can refill, repair, and shit? Imagine that in a larger and pricier scale. We're talking throwing buckets upon buckets into your BBs or CVs to go along with the steel/munitions burn from countless repairs, getting your highest level ships to refill costing you a shitton of fuel and ammo. The bauxite that drains from all the planes that got wrecked.

An event will have tough encounters that will dial everything up to eleven. Your ships will not have a good time but with ample resources of fuel/munitions/steel/baux and buckets, you can get by. Just hope to god you're not one of the poor blokes who had RNG fuck him so hard, his metric shitton of resources that he stocked up turned to <10k cause all he wanted was Isokaze.

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>>13263838
Not him but did you get Isokaze?

[Anonymous No.]

Just wondering, is there some special code that gives you awesome planes with Shoukaku?

2 Saiuns and 4 Ryuusei kai, and 1 Suisei kai in the past 6 days, just daily crafting.

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>>13263845
Yes. But let me hide it in morse code, since I don't want too many people abusing it.
--. .. - --. ..- -..

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>>13263838

Well, the good thing is that I know I'm no where near ready for the event, so no point in worrying about it. Still figuring things out at my own pace, so there's that too. Still having fun though, but just don't want to fret over that whole bit with it.

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>>13263843

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>>13263851
Events go on for a while to give extra time to prepare, and we don't know actually how hard it'll be on the lowest setting. Getting the battleship and clearing the whole event might be a nightmare, but early maps always come with good rewards. Even people who start during the event should be able to get something out of it.

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>>13263850
I had to look it up.
I'm gitting there.

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>>13263866
>Even people who start during the event should be able to get something out of it.

I just started, so I hope so. This game is way more entertaining than I had thought.

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>>13263860
And this, kids, is a perfect example of a broken man.

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>>13263551
BBV's are useful as cheap alternatives, or if you can get roughly 50 firepower from two main guns, you can have some extra air firepower while not sacrificing double attack.

The later will only come into play at second remodel with 46cm guns or better. The former is in play any time, Fusou for example, prior to remodeling only has 5 less attack than a Nagato, while being cheaper. Second remodel she has equal firepower to a Nagato while only 9 less armor. More expensive than non remodeled, but still cheaper in ammo.

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>>13263866

HQ Lv. 7 and most of my Ships are level 9-15 at the moment so not too sure how much I can even do. Still at the point of reading through and understanding how to do basic things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263860
I'm sorry anon, you'll get her next time.
Hopefully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263838
>>13263860
Yon didn't deserve her anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263838
how much was the metric shitton

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>>13263890

Well, just take it slow and do it an your own pace. Don't get too excited and look for your first Battleship. I know people who got lucky as hell and got something like a Kongou without even clearing any of world 2 maps. As much a Kongou is nice that early, at that level, your resources will see a great rate of decrease over time if you primarily use her.

But by all means, do what you want but do it wisely. I was that Kongou user and while I learned my lesson, it still felt fucking good to have my first BB craft to be her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263906

less than an imperial shitton no doubt

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>>13263907

Heck, I don't even know what point you can start making those, so I think I'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263907

I started a week ago and I'm using 3 Kongou class and my resources are nonexistent.

But nothing else hits hard enough to kill enemy BBs.

[Anonymous No.]

All I want from the event is Harusame. I don't know how rare she is, but she's the cutest ship in the whole game.

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>>13263817
During events RNG can fuck you up pretty bad.

Last event I started with almost 300k on everything, so I decided to just have some fun and use my hotels whenever I could. I finished the event pretty quickly so I started to hunt for Asashimo, I was at 200k when I started.

After 3 days of grinding through different maps she finally dropped. I ended up the event with ~70k on almost all res except bauxite.

I don't regret it, not even a single bit.

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>>13263921
Why you know she cute if you didn't have her?

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>>13263912

You can do it as early as now if you have the resources. But a BB craft is 400/100/600/30 (that's fuel/ammo/steel/bauxite btw) and if you're starting out, you might not want to burn that much.

I suggest you get some expeditions going to unlock the first set since there are three expeditions a beginner like you would want to have (specifically #2, #5 and #6 since those three give you your income of resources from buckets, fuel/ammo/steel/baux) for your resource income. It's slow at first since you only have an extra fleet who can go to one of the expeditions but when you get the third and fourth fleets, you'll be swimming in resources in no time.

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>>13263935

I have my second fleet unlocked and such, is it much further past that point that I can get the third and so on? Or is it something gated by HQ levels and such?

[Anonymous No.]

These are my current resources on what i should focus? i haven't unlocked 3rd fleet so i can only do 1 expedition at time.

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>>13263956
>is it much further past that point that I can get the third and so on?

You need to get the Sendai sisters (Sendai, Jintsuu, and Naka) for the third fleet. It would appear as a quest. For the fourth, you need the entire Kongou sisters for that.

Prepare for last sister syndrome where you have all sisters except that one.

But yeah, I suggest you take a look at the Kancolle Wiki FAQ for more information. Should get you started with everything you need to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263956
Check the Quest page on the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

Who the fuck decided it was a good idea to put planes onto submarines. I'd rather they all upgrade into pure subs and not this aviation shit.

[Anonymous No.]

God damn I knew not keeping at least one Chiyoda for when I eventually have to do expedition 36 would end up biting me in the ass.

Complaining on /jp/ magic please work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263962
Fuel. Exp 5 is good, 21 as well if you can unlock it and have the drums.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263964
I was lucky and got Sendai and Jintsuu early, so it looks like Naka's the one I'm chasing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263790
Nah, not happening, she will at least be E-3 reward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263984

Naka is fucking everywhere. I'm sure you'll get it eventually. Good thing on Sendai. That's the most common of the Sendai-class that people took a while in getting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263984

I got at least 20 Nakas before I got a Sendai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263976
You could just, you know, not put any planes on them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263907
Kongou is actually probably a really good pull early on.

She's arguably the most useful bb and she's very cheap to resupply. Just put her in as flagship and she'll rarely take a hit. She'd give you the firepower to cruise on through a lot of the early maps.

>>13263964
>>Prepare for last sister syndrome where you have all sisters except that one.
I had Kongou and Haruna for the longest time, then got Kirishima and Hiei back to back in crafting.

....while using a Yamato recipe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263935

Well, used that ratio you gave me and for the two I have going it gave me Haruna and Myoukou, so not a bad start and such. I'll have to read quite a bit more about this it seems, but thanks again for the response and such. I appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263990
>>13263994
Sendai was my second constructed ship. Hopefully I didn't use up all my luck with that!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263997

>not having a 4th fleet that long enough that you can do a Yamato recipe by the time you got the last two

I'm sorry you had to go through that long wait, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263997

>mfw I only need Kirishima

DROOOOOOOOOOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264002

Well, this isn't a bad start. Went ahead and used my last bit to hurry Myoukou along and got this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264002
>>13264011

>I have going it gave me Haruna

Con-fucking-grats on that. I know it's all RNG but reading around, I've come across TTKs who say that Haruna is usually the last Kongou sister they needed and I've heard horror stories of people going months without her to complete the Kongou-class quest.

Then again, you might end up like this anon >>13263997

[Anonymous No.]

Time for monkey ears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263995
I mean they cost more and take longer to repair, with no real benefit. I'd rather they have more stats without changing ship class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264021

better than fusou's t-rex hands tbh

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263976
>Who the fuck decided it was a good idea to put planes onto submarines.
The Imperial Japanese Navy General Staff. I suggest you direct your complaints there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264021

When you go to upgrading them, is that a prompt when you examine them, or does a separate/new menu pop up when you reach the required level?

[Anonymous No.]

What is the best choice for equipment improvement?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263976
>>13264046
It makes sense historically--World War II subs have a pretty limited detection range and low speed, you have a huge advantage if you know your target's heading when you set course to intercept.

Seaplanes make even more sense for submarine cruisers like Shioi or Surcouf , since their guns outrange their torpedos. If I recall correctly, Surcouf's combat range doubles with seaplanes spotting, since it can bring its 20cm to bear. Shioi and Hachi obviously have less range with a 14cm, but they still outrange their torpedos

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264004
It's a lot longer than you would think from that post.

Haruna was from a Yamato recipe as well.

>>13264008
If you hate resources, do Yamato recipes. I got my Kirishima and Hiei from Musashi focus when the drop rate was increased, then pulled another Kirishima from the next Yamato focus I did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264022
But there is a benefit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263997
I've got Kongou as my first BB. Haven't failed me even once since then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264056

The latter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264059
And launching planes from a sub is rad as heck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264070

Oh, okay then. Thanks for the response and such.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264064

Same, my first craft and I got Kongou and considering I knew of her with all the fanart and shit prior to my entering into the game, it was a nice get for me. She ate my resources early on but it wasn't so bad. Helped me so much in the world 2 maps and even spearheaded the grueling 2-4 trek.

She and Hiyou are usually the ones who take me out of a fix. Seriously Hiyou Kai Ni fucking when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264059
Maximum range isn't really that important for submarines who are supposed to do sneak attacks anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264082
Actually, for me it was a BB recipe and I literally went "Please, be Kongou." Truly, she didn't fail me even back then.

[Anonymous No.]

today's daily crafting looked like it was going to suck until the last one. Makes up for everything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264056
The button in the bottom right lights up which brings you to that menu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264093

I'm still looking for the beaver. While doing the 250/30/200/30 craft, I've gotten 6-7 Shimakazes in the past month. At least I got Hacchan and Goya from it to complete my 4-girl sub crew for Orel farming.

Still, where the fuck are you Yukikaze?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264100

Alrighty, thanks makes it a bit more clear. Thank you for the response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264100
>Lv 1
You should take your doggy for a walk sometime.

[Anonymous No.]

So how are your trophy DD collections going? How many Kagerous do you have? Do you think that this year will be the year of the Yuugumos as event rewards?

[SHIREEEEEEEE No.]

>>13264100
I am so jealous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264107
Wish I could trade you my beavers for your seals. All I've been fuckin getting is Yukikaze. I want a Shimakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264107
Remember to always do "okay, one last time" craft. That's how I got mine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264117
Oh god she's adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264107
I got Yukikaze pretty early on, like in my first week of playing. Shimakaze, on the other hand, decided to appear like a month ago while doing my dailies. She was literally the last ship that I could get from normal crafting that hadn't appeared.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264121
Not him, but she was a pretty easy drop to get last event, on the easiest map of all to boot. You can probably get your own shire~ this event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264120
I would be surprised if they didn't start working on the a handful of Special-class still missing. Might even bring out the rest of the Akizukis and maybe introduce the first few Matsu-class.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the target selection AI so terrible?

>hurr why would I attack the aircraft carrier when I can shoot the heavy cruiser that just attacked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263977

>God damn I knew not keeping at least one Chiyoda for when I eventually have to do expedition 36 would end up biting me in the ass

Fuck, really? I keep getting her so many times in CV crafts. I swear to god now that my desire factor is rising for an AV Chiyoda (I have a CVL one now) nets me something like a Hiryuu, I'll laugh my ass off. Still need to do 36 for the 38 and 39 expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264140
I think that we will get the rest of the Special-class DDs when they add the sixth page on the library. Also, I'm not sure but I have a feeling that we will only get the nameships of the Akizuki and Matsu classes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264141
Stop thinking there is an AI behind target selection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264143
Marry her, she clearly wants you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264141
>>13264141
>Why is the target selection AI so terrible?
Prepare to be astounded, as you have not even scratched the surface.

>BBs waste their initial volley with small fry
>Every single torp equipped boat targets the half-dead DD instead of the semi-damanged BB
>CLT attack the same god damn enemy
I wouldn't be surprised if there is an in-game mechanic for targeting the devs put in just to troll people.

[Anonymous No.]

why is Atago a such a shotacon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264150
You are right. There certainly isn't anything remotely intelligent behind it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264159
It's literally random, like a great portion of the game if you haven't noticed already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264172
Really? Maybe next you are going to tell me that it's turn-based?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264143
I never actually used a CV recipe but I got tons of her from doing 4-3, I just kept using her for +AA.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the first 3 nodes of 1-5 easy enough that I can do them at red face morale?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264107
I got both Yukikaze and Shimakake in the same day, still no subs.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking LSC, went all out with 4/7/7/2 20 got a lowsy Hiei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264082
This guy gets it. Hiyou has been helping me go through all the shit the game throws at me whenever I need a CVL. She seriously deserves a kai ni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264229
The desire sensor is too strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264229
>lowsy

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264229

Hiei is cute so it's all ok.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking LSC giving me fucking 4:20 ships when all I fucking want is fucking Bismarck. I might just give up on LSC till after the event now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264239
>>13264240
Hiei is shit, I already have one, left her at around level 10, only Kongou I've been working with is Kirishima, I don't need anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264247

Hiei is love, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264246
>muh Bismark
>muh FBB with torpedoes
Fuck Bismark, everyone is drolling over that overated piece of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264247

Kirishima is worst Kongou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264252
I don't even want to fucking use her much, I'm just a completionist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264247
>>13264250

>>13264252
Looks like someone can't get their Biscuit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264250
I have to admit, she makes pretty good modernization material, faggot.

>>13264255
Highest firepower stat aside, she's one of the very few reliable battleships I've got, always turns the tide of battle. Kongo herself wishes she could reach Kirishima's level of effectiveness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264252

She's cute and drawn by Fumikane, what's not to love?

[Anonymous No.]

What expeditions are good for getting a lot of every kind of resource? Right now I'm running 6 (Bauxite), 21 (Fuel, Ammo) and 37 (Steel, Ammo).

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264262
>what's not to love?
She's not Musashi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264239
>>13264240
>>13264250
>>13264259
Fuck the monkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264266

Oh, I'd fuck her good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264263
2 for ammo and buckets
6 for bauxite
38 for fuel and steel

[Anonymous No.]

>Hiei vs Kirishima shitflinging

Anons pls, everyone knows Haruna is best Kongou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264120
Only those 3 and Urakaze, I have dex entries for all remaining trophies though.
I'm eagerly awaiting the age of Minekaze and Kamikaze as event rewards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264275
Aight, I'll give it a try. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264084
For commerce raiding it's quite helpful, especially given shells are quite a bit more plentiful than torpedos. In early WWI German u-boats would often just sink ships with the artillery gun after allowing the crew to evacuate on lifeboats

I-401 was planned to be involved in an assault on the Panama Canal, so bringing artillery and the means to spot for it was a perfectly valid reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264282
Forgot image. Waiting out 5~8 hour repair times in attempt not to spent buckets for clearing it takes a heavy toll on my psyche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264288
Now I want a Panama Canal event for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264288
WWI and WWII are very different conflicts. And the attack on the panama canal were supposed to be done with the bombs on the seaplanes, not the small gun.

[Anonymous No.]

What role does a high HQ level play in LSC drops?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264300
>WWI and WWII are very different conflicts
Much of early WWII's sea battles and ship design (Bismarck's combat design, Prince of Wales' deployment, US battleship doctrine) were based on underlying assumptions gleaned from World War I. A pre-war submarine such as I-8 being built with guns that were of use to World War I subs is neither surprising nor unreasonable given all the submarine warfare that had gone on between 1918 and 1939.

>And the attack on the panama canal were supposed to be done with the bombs on the seaplanes, not the small gun.
Nothing says that the planes would be the sole participants, or that extenuating circumstances would not merit gun support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264276
Best kai ni too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264293
Maybe I'm too new, but why use buckets when you can just rotate in other ships to take the place of the ones getting repaired?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264340
Because I'm using Konishi fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264276
Slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264276
She's alright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264293
You could've used actual destroyers instead of that shit if you wanted to save buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264364
>You could've used actual destroyers
Not him but fuck that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264369
This made me laugh anon, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264369
please take better care of your boatdaughters

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264364
I scrapped most elites the moment I got their dex entry and the last remaining one, Shigure, was removed few weeks ago after I started maxing Asashio's luck. There's no meaning in keeping girls I'd never use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264402
>I scrapped most elites the moment I got their dex entry
The fuck were you doing, retard?

[Anonymous No.]

So that's where you guys went. Did you leave old thread too early or has my internet refused to update info about old one getting archived?

>>13263627
Type 94 Anti Air Fire Director. Level 70 is too far away. T91AAFD is reserve flagship.
Slowly getting Murakumo (8) and Z1 (19) ready.
Yamashiro and RJ provide Saiun/second shelling/radars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264414
It's better this way
And not a single /kcg/ too

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264411
He said that he wants to use his shipdaughters instead of the elites, and I respect that. Even so, grinding the girls just to get the dex entry is pretty stupid. If you're not gonna use them might as well save yourself the trouble of grinding.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit ISOKAZE

This girl is
L E W D
E
W
D

like literally the embodiment of lewd, she's like a lewd eagle perched upon a lewd precipice looking over a lewd forest! except that the forest is a metaphor for pubic hair and eagle is a metaphor for "spread eagle", Isokaze's most natural position! LEWD

STUPID SEXY ISOKAZE

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264463
Isokaze never
Ducky never
Prinz Eugen never

;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264463
please don't sexualize the kanmusu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264463
Haha, what a well meme'd post! You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. *Tips Fedorito*

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264463

>implying any shipfu can ever be lewder than iku

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna marry Taigei!

[Anonymous No.]

How should I be equipping my waifu for general use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264509
Two or three rotors you can activate remotely for maximum embarrassment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264448
I'm completion autist, I can't stand when something is incomplete. And most K2 levels so far are low too, getting someone to 70 takes just few hours of purposeful grind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264501
I wanna take her home.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264509
2 red guns and zuiun. Replace the last slot with whatever you want, but usually it'll either be another Zuiun, sashiki, Akitsu Maru copter or an AP shell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264509
>That loadout

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264509
You should scrap 15.2cm on sight.

[Anonymous No.]

What do I put on low luck DDs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264531

muh cut-ins though

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264509
>15.2cm
Not that, that's for sure. They're useless, get rid of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264533
Two guns and anything outside of gun/torpedo.

>>13264535
They're shit though. If you're addicted to the nice animation, craft yourself an AP Shell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264535
Get an AP shell, better cut-in during the day and DA in night is enough for BB(V)s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264535
You can cut-in with an AP shell, red gun or 15.5cm without using a useless piece of shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264524
I want to keep her safe and secure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264535
If you want cut-ins then 2red+APshell+Zuiun

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264543
You can't cut-in with red guns during day. Cut-in with 15.5 cm is just as shit as cut-in with 15.2 cm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264554
>You can't cut-in with red guns during day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264545
I can easily imagine the TTK above her sweating a lot, barely able to handle this overwhelming adorableness, doubting if he's worthy enough to soil her, indecisive, just looking at her with amazement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264557
3 red guns still result in double attack you cretin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264569
Why the hell would you take 3 red guns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263172
When I first noticed Ooyodo fanart, I liked her design. I didn't start playing immediately since I saw that she was event only, but finally got her in the Winter event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264573
But you always have Ooyodo, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264566
I want her to rub her feet on me until I impregnate her stocking covered toes.

[Anonymous No.]

So I kind of want to get into this ship girls thing. Who's the main character? Shimakaze? I always see her everywhere but I know I always saw Cirino everywhere and she turned out to not be the MC in Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264569
That's why you take 2 red guns and an AP shell you idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264572
Are you capable of following the conversation longer than one post?

1) Fusou with two red guns, 15.2 and seaplane
2) Anon is told 15.2 is shit
3) he wants to maintain the cut-in
4) someone replies that AP Shell, red gun or 15.5cm can be used for cut-in - you can't cut-in with just one piece of equipment, rest are obviously seaplane and red gun(s) which are necessary for any day cut-in by default - in that case another red gun wouldn't result in cut-in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264592
Shimakaze is shit-tier. Cirno is stronger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264594
Read older posts you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264592
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264598
>4) someone replies that AP Shell, red gun or 15.5cm can be used for cut-in - you can't cut-in with just one piece of equipment, rest are obviously seaplane and red gun(s) which are necessary for any day cut-in by default - in that case another red gun wouldn't result in cut-in.
You're a fucking idiot who jumps to conclusions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264580
But I want her to risk her life for my sake for dramatic effect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264592
>Who's the main character?

Teitoku

[Anonymous No.]

Unlocking exp 21 was the best thing I've done all week, I don't know why I waited so long to do it. Now if I could just get the Kongos I would be set, but I don't have the resources to just LSC all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264606
No, you just can't write a coherent sentence and get mad when someone points it out.
>You can cut-in with an AP shell, red gun or 15.5cm without using a useless piece of shit
This is plain wrong. You're saying there are three options for cut-in - AP Shell, red gun or 15.5cm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264622
TTK will make peace by turning all the kanmusu into cum dumpsters!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264592
The main character is the first ship you pick.
Remember pokemon? Yeah like that.
Don't anyone dare to forget or make vanish their first and only starter ship.

[Anonymous No.]

How are your veterans doing, /jp/? List the three oldest ships in each class and their levels. Make it 4 for CLs, CVs and DDs if you include Tatsuta, Akagi and your starter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264675
My Inazuma is still with me, and I hold her dearly for helping me get through the first worlds and 3-2, as well as a couple event maps. I'm eagerly waiting for her Kai Ni.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally cleared 3-2, even though my ships were underleveled as fuck. I haven't felt this relieved since I beat 2-4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264694
Wait for 3-4 to feel the pain again. Or be like me and get lucky as fuck, pass it on your first try and never look back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
DD - Inazuma (ID - 1 / Lvl. 85) / Miyuki (ID - 4 / Lvl. 53) / Hatsuyuki (ID - 5 / Lvl. 53) / Bep (ID - 88 / Lvl. 76)
CL(T) - Tama (ID - 2 / Lvl. 56) / Nagara (ID - 3 / Lvl. 120) / Isuzu (ID - 17 / Lvl. 86)
CA(V) - Maya (ID - 25 / Lvl. 77) / Haguro (ID - 36 / Lvl. 80) / Mogami (ID - 545 / Lvl. 74)
CVL - Shouhou (ID - 21 / Lvl. 65) / RJ (ID - 61 / Lvl. 122) / Houshou (ID - 90 / Lvl. 65)
BB(V) - Kirishima (ID - 73 / Lvl. 83) / Kongou (ID - 86 / Lvl. 83) / Mutsu (ID - 162 / Lvl. 80)
CV - Akagi (ID - 92 / Lvl. 90) / Souryuu (ID - 241 / Lvl. 82) / Shoukaku (ID - 410 / Lvl. 70)
Everything else: Imuya (ID - 1369 / Lvl. 99) / Akashi (ID - 2029 / Lvl. 40) / Hachi (ID - 2273 / Lvl. 99)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264592
This is shitposting to a new level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263627
Currently Sendai, only 8 levels left.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it true that next foreing ship will be italian?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264725
Read the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263627
Wagahai, Furutaka and Choukai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263627
Murakumo

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263627
Kirishima. Then some destroyers probably since the event is near and I'm not prepared yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
Ehhhh~ This makes me feel like a horrible person.

DD: ID#1 Inazuma LV 33
ID#9 Kikuzuki LV 38
ID#10 Hibiki LV 61

CL: ID#5 Tama LV 20
ID#29 Kuma LV 35
ID#36 Yura LV 26 (Tatsuta is ID#37)

CA: ID#58 Tone LV 77
ID#797 Maya LV 75
ID#1096 Prinz Eugen LV 54

BB: ID#23 Kirishima LV 59
ID#142 Haruna LV 81
ID#245 Fusou LV 80

CV: ID#130 Zuikaku LV 70
ID#146 Akagi LV 58
ID# 171 Chiyoda LV 59
ID# 179 Chitose LV 52 (It's about a thousand ships later before I got my next CV Kaga.)

SS: ID#197 Imuya LV 51
ID#390 Goya LV 56
ID#1155....Imuya? LV 38

Extra: ID#2430 Akashi LV.......35.

I sure am not loyal to most of my early ships except Tone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684

DD - Inazuma (1) 119, Верный (3) 80, Hatsuharu k2 (7) 67, Michishio (13) 77

CL - Tenryuu (39) 53, Tatsuta (40) 52, Isuzu k2 (49) 135, Yura (76) 68.

CA/V - Aoba (142) 44, Takao (156) 62, Choukai k2 (248) 70

BB/V - Mutsu (290) 146, Fusou k2 (325) 86, Yamashiro k2 (661) 80

CVL - Houshou (184) 47, Chitose k2 (206) 83, Chiyoda (315) 65

CV - Akagi (707) 91, Souryuu k2 (998) 98), Hiryuu k2 (1036) 93, Kaga (1304) 95

SS - Iku (604) 150, Imuya (722) 138, Goya (1628) 140

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263627
None. I have them all and 3 days 30/30/30/30 nonstop spamming refuses to give me Murakumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264759
What happened to your older CAs, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

Who do you feed your Maruyu to after you max your shipfu and KTKM-sama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13263627
Ayanami (63) and Fubuki (60)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264792
You can always do Ooi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264779
I didn't use any CAs at all until Fall 2014 when branching rules required me to.
I sent out a lv 23 unmodded Tone I think.(Bulges to have her survive.)

So I guess...they were all just seen as food to be eaten for the longest time ever before my short time with Tone showed me how incredible they can be.(The only non-carrier ship class outside of Battleships and Ooyodo/Yuubari to have 4 slots.)

I am pretty surprised that Tone was from that long ago. Must be because I liked her Kai ni art and actually used her a few times so she wasn't lv 1.(Ships above lv 1 tend to be safe from being scrapped or eaten.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
DD: Inazuma 113, Isonami 66, Shirayuki 67, Kikuzuki 73

CL: Kuma 75, Naka 74, Tama 77

CA: Furutaka 80, Tone 86, Kako 78, Atago 79

CVL: Chitose 93, Ryuujou 93, Chiyoda 93

BB: Kirishima 98, Yamashiro 98, Kongou 98

CV: Akagi 96, Kaga 97, Souryuu 96, Hiryuu 96

SS: Goya 99, Imuya 99, Iku 99

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
DD — Murakumo (id1) 93, Hatsuharu(id2) 137, Mikazuki(id4) 76, Satsuki(id13) 82
CL — Yura(id9) 89, Tenryuu (id16) 99, Kiso(id44) 99
CA — Furutaka(id7) 94, Maya(id19) 91, Kako(id37) 92
CV — Shouhou(id34) 92, Hiyou(id46) 93, RJ(id 103) 89
BB — Kongo(id15)92, Fusou(id87) 89, Hiel(id112) 90

Mutsukies regularly perform sub-sweeping operations at 1-5, that's why their level is high.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264799
Actually not really. Tone didn't enlighten me on anything. I only got her Kai ni like a month ago.

I realized they were strong from testing out Maya since her remodel level was pretty low.
Though I could deign to give the class a try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
DD:
ID 5: Asashio lvl 58
ID 9: Shigure lvl 81
ID 11: Yuudachi lvl 83

CL:
ID 62: Tatsuta lvl 55
ID 93: Sendai lvl 74
ID 108: Tenryuu lvl 63
ID 245: Kiso lvl 78

CA:
ID 70: Atago lvl 43
ID 111: Takao lvl 42
ID 218: Suzuya lvl 71

BB:
ID 123: Kirishima lvl 91
ID 315: Nagato lvl 78
ID 327: Hiei lvl 97

CV / CVL
ID 197: Kaga lvl 84
ID 304: Akagi lvl 43
ID 400: Shoukaku lvl 78
ID 602: Souryuu lvl 78

SS
ID 139: Dechi lvl 96
ID 156: Imuya lvl 96
ID 545: Hachi lvl 98

Extra
ID 771: Akitsumaru lvl 45

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264795
>Kongo
>Hiel

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264803
>Kongo
>Hiel

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
DD - Nanodesu 64, Kisaragi 45, Mutsuki 44, Shigure 76
CL - Kuma 62, Tenryuu 40, Abukuma 18, Tatsuta 30
CA - Myoukou 40, Nachi 30, Kako 26
CVL - Chitose 61, Ryuujou 84, Zuihou 55
BB - Hiei 51, Kirishima 51, Haruna 80
CV - Akagi 67, Kaga 71, Hiryuu 1, Shoukaku 1, I never needed anyone besides Akagi and Kaga
SS - Imuya 78, Goya 82, Hachi 80

I really need to level my CAs, the only one with a higher level than Myoukou is Tone at 74.
And I guess get the Dragons to Kai Ni for the quests.

[Anonymous No.]

Having a build time as "Unbuildable" on the wiki means event-only, I assume?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264811
....Do I want to ask about your starter ship?
She seems to be missing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264829
It means you can't build them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264829
Not necessary. It just means you can't build them.
Some/Most of them can be obtained from non-event drops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264838
>>13264843
Okay, it's confusing because I've found that some of the pages don't list where a particular ship might drop from, event or otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264836
I used her as modernization material because I thought she had a boring personality and I regret it every day

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264894
Who was she? The one you thought was boring.

Could it be Inazuma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
Sure
>DD:
Inazuma #1 - Lv 81
Mutsuki #2 - Lv 85
Shirayuki #3 - Lv 77
>CL(T):
KTKM #174 - Lv 99
Ooi #498 - Lv 99
Yuubari #1208 - Lv 99
>CA(V)
Maya #111 - Lv 96
Takao #209 - Lv 91
Suzuya #1310 Lv 99
>BB(V)
Hyuuga #43 - Lv 97
Kirishima #115 - Lv 99
Hiei #263 - Lv 99
>CV
Shoukaku #76 - Lv 99
Kaga #146 - Lv 99
Akagi #186 - Lv 99
>SS(V)
Imuya #404 - Lv 99
Goya #1117 - Lv 99
Iku #1195 - Lv 97

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264859
Oh, I see. There's a single droplist page for all the ships. It's weird that the individual pages aren't standardized as some list drop locations and some do not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264897
What is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264894
My fellow TTK can't be this kuso.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264901
Yes it was Inazuma, She truly gets the worst admirals

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264908
I think this should stop, there's nothing special about the starters. If you like some DD more focus on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264913
please take care of your first ship daughter, she is special

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264905
TTKs that recently fought your fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

Which CV recipe has given you the best results?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264927
5-4, 3-3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264927
Taihou recipe

[Anonymous No.]

次回の「艦これ」全サーバ群共通メンテナンス＆アップデートは、来週【4/10(金曜日)】実施予定です。また、今月下旬から、春イベント2015：期間限定海域を展開予定です。同春イベでは、地中海での活躍を目指した主力艦級のイタリア艦娘も登場予定です。お楽しみに！

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264919
I do. >>13264715
I just don't agree starters have nearly quite as much meaning as people give them recently. I don't see anything wrong in using your starter as mod fodder if you don't find her interesting. You get dozens of similar girls in your first day of playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
>DD:
Samidare#1 - Lv 65
Verniy#27 - Lv 71
Shigure#47 - Lv 96
>CL(T):
Sendai#8 - Lv 78
Jintsuu #9 - Lv 77
KTKM#38 - Lv 86
>CA(V)
Myoukou#108 - Lv 37
Kinugasa #146 - Lv 57
Haguro #155 Lv 73
>BB(V)
Hiei #118 - Lv 78
Kirishima #238 - Lv 86
Kongou #332 - Lv 85
>CV
Hiryuu #39 - Lv 97
Akagi #117 - Lv 61
Kaga #119 - Lv 87
>CVL
Chitose #139 - Lv 79
Zuihou #140 - Lv 99
Hiyou #272 - Lv 79

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264949
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Littorio-class_battleship

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264122
I've been doing 250/30/200/30 for subs for my dailies, and I think I've seen 5/6 Shimakazes so far with only 2 subs from crafts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264995
I hope we get Roma.

[Anonymous No.]

Accidentally pressed the sortie button to 3-5 with my DD team not resupplied. They are sparkled. Do I continue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264952
And here's the top 4 of each type by level. My favorite girls aren't necessarily my first girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264949

I hope you don't need to have played forever to get anything cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265046
You do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265032
>My favorite girls aren't necessarily my first girls.
No shit sherlock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265008
Will we get battleship Nero as the Type-Moon collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265046
You can always get lucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265012
decide for yourself ttk

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265012

God gave us the F5 key for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265080
>>13265092
But they are sparkled. So I continued anyway and they got rekt as expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265092
He doesn't want to waste his kirakira.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265113
rip

captcha: isfun

[Anonymous No.]

Hehe ASSSS

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265113
Lower fuel reduces evasion, so you canceled the sparkle buff out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265123
>A
what a kuso

[Anonymous No.]

>no subs after doing 1-5 forever

I wouldn't care if I didn't need them for expeditions. Gating things behind RNG is honestly my only beef with this game. I don't care if ships have awful drop rates, I just don't want to be locked out of stuff because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

So, the office stuff is just cosmetic right?

I should buy something seasonal or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265158
Everything is cosmetic besides the jukebox, which just changes the music when you feed it coins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265150
Craft them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265164
And the seasonal samplers that give you a temporary music change if you have the furniture up.

[Anonymous No.]

Do expeditions that require drums consume the drums? Or can I keep using the same ones?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265209
>Do expeditions that require drums consume the drums?
No it's not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265209
Why don't you try it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265209
>Do expeditions that require drums consume the drums?
What? Like seriously what? Are you high? Are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265209
Yes, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265046
Last event proved that devs want casuals to not feel left out.

[Anonymous No.]

Grinding CAs on 3-2A is so terrible compared to DDs/CLs on 4-3. It's so much easier to guarentee the flag gets MVP on 4-3, and I'm so tired of watching my subs get taiha'd on one attempt, as soon as the three Imuyas I'm switching between get some more levels on them I'm not going to be able to do this with their repair times, I just don't get this grind

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265256
Easy mode still fucked over casuals. I don't know how.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265256
It was still hard as shit on normal difficulty. Hardly any changes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265265
>It's so much easier to guarentee the flag gets MVP on 4-3
You must be doing something terribly wrong. Post your setup so we can help you or laugh at you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265268
>>13265271
I said feel. Having an easy mode gives the illusion that they can actually do something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265265
>my subs get taiha'd on one attempt
You're supposed to use 4 or 5 Maruyu on permanent rotation. No buckets, no wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265164
What coins do you need? Gold coins or furniture coins?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265290
Furniture coins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265273
It's like there's this paper-thin line between her getting MVP or not, and yes 8/10 times I get it but all it takes is 2 or 3 to have to go back and sparkle her. But losing the subs every attempt is frustrating, it's fine for now with three Imuyas at level 6 but they're gaining levels as it is and Tone's got a long way to go. So if they reach 6-7 minute then this isn't sustainable. My only other subs are Iku/Imuya/Hachi/Goya at around 35-40, and even with an engine they're lucky to make it past one run and their repair times are around 20 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265299
>2 blue planes on each CVL
I found your problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265299
If you can write off 20k of each resource, do 10x minimum LSC recipe. With any luck you'll have some Maruyu on hand, whose repair timer stays below 10 minutes as far as lvl 30. Depending on how many you get, you may be able to do all your 3-2 runs for her and still not have Maruyu's repair timer past 6 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265314
I was posting last night, someone told me the answer was more planes, when I was running with 1 type 97 each they were missing like crazy, and I'd be lucky to see more than one ship sink on the opening phase.

>>13265315
>If you can write off 20k of each resource, do 10x minimum LSC recipe
That's a negative, I'd have to spend a few days hoarding for that, but throwing 20k resources at a chance to get the ships to grind a single ship sounds pretty crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>finally clear 2-4 after struggling for days
>Kirishima drops from it so I can unlock the 4th fleet

HYPE LEVELS: OFF THE CHARTS

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265330
>grind a single ship
Trust me, you will be doing this more than once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265348
Have fun being stuck at 3-2 for a few weeks because you ignored your DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265348
All you did is finish the tutorial, that's nothing to celebrate about. You ca start celebrating when you clear 5-3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265353

Joke's on you, I have a bunch of them at level 25+ already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265357
>level 25

wwww

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265351
Yeah, but I mean if you need that many Maruyus to grind a CA all the way up then what, you throw another 20k resources at crafting Maruyus again when they're too high? I know hoarding gets easier as you get higher but that's still nuts, I dunno how you're supposed to do that when you actually need your resources to progress.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265359
Not the same guy, but I managed to beat 3-2 with a bunch of level 30s. It is possible with luck and without damecons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265359
That's all you need to clear 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265359
That's perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265330
>grind a single ship
A properly maintained Maruyu collection will last through several girls' grinding sessions with the added bonus of being luck food once they hit lvl20. Not to try and pressure you into doing it, since you can't afford it, but it's certainly not worth ignoring because you're targeting a single girl right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265357
>level 25+

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265362
I had a range of 30 to 40 for mine, even if one of them was Shimakaze. All of them were fully modernized, of course.
I did equip damcons but didn't actually need to burn any of them. The hardest part of that map for me was actually getting sent to to the boss node. The game loved to send me north from the maelstorm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265367
Yeah I got you, I've been doing a min LSC every few days if I wasn't using resources heavily but havne't seen one yet. It's definitely not an option for me right now but this setup just won't last very long. Compared to this 4-3 was an absolute dream, MVP was basically guaranteed since my flag just had better ASW gear than everyone else and got over 2k exp a run, and the only downside was that every once in a while I had to hand some buckets out. I got Sendai Yuudachi and Shigure to K2 within a few days basically relaxing and playing some other games while doing it. Can't even do that with this run since I have to switch out subs every 3 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264710
>never look back
>not going back to clear world 3 weekly at 3-4 with 5-6 subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265381
>Not doing it at 3-3
Full pleb

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265390
Found 3-3 kinda boring these days. I even do my world 2 dailies at 2-4 instead of 2-3 nowadays.

Besides, the drops at 3-4 boss are better than those at 3-3 boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265398
I do 3-3 because I still need Maikaze ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
Sazanami 55
Mikaduki 33
Shiratuyu 26
Murasame 21

Naka 32
Isuzu 54
Nagara 18
Tatsuta 29

Asigara 11
Haguro 12
Maya 16

Kaga 54
Akagi 52
Souryuu 33

Zuihou 28
Ryuuzyou 50
Housyou 16

Husou 39
Kirisima 71
Yamasiro 27

Hattyan 69
Imuya 28
Another Imuya 63
Yet another Imuya 23
Goya 65

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265374
The compass is the true boss there. I got mine done after a few tries. As long as the DD dodges the first two nodes and hits the boss node, it'll be guaranteed clear, since the boss node is easy and DD will wreck it at night battle. Pic is my 3-2 clear fleet. I think the hardest maps so far were 2-4 and 4-4. I haven't tried 5-2 yet, though.

>>13265375
4-3 is fantastic. I got my Shigu K2 today. Trying for Yasen Kai 2 next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265403
Maikaze is like the Naka of 3-3 for me. She's fucking everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265403
>>13265418
>do 5-5
>get Akigumo and Maikaze in the same run

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265330

you're supposed to use 2 red planes per instead of blue, worst ones you have as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265418
Throw some my way, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265359
I managed with an average level of 30. Really the boss was actually easier than the nodes leading up to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265431
Probably gonna jinx myself but this suddenly looks a lot better. Could have sworn I read to use one torpedo bomber, and then someone told me last night to just use more planes. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best method for Fuel and Ammo early on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265458

2-3 when you have subs, expeditions when you have extra fleets, time otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265458
Expedition 2 and 5. Run it around the clock. 2 will also net you buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265458
I spammed expedition 2 and 5 for a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265455

if any other ships grab a couple mvps in a row I just switch out my flag for 10 minutes and level a different ship, no need to change your entire fleet to go sparkling

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265463
>>13265462

Only have 2 fleets unlocked, and seem to be having terrible luck getting the rest to unlock the rest of the fleet spots at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

How much do you love DesDiv6?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472
Not at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472

the best girls are those who are cute AND strong, 1/2 doesn't cut it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265463
>>13265462

Is expedition 3 the best for early steel? 40 in 20 minutes seems pretty good but annoying to keep repeating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265466
Fleets will be unlocked over time. Just have fleet 2 on expedition 5 around the clock and sortie more to get more ships instead of crafting them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472
Not enough to hot glue them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265481
plz no

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472

desdiv6 a best

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472
They bring in all my buckets from Expedition 2. Based as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

Doing 5-1 for the monthly quest with 3 battleships is so chill compared to the all-cruiser nightmare they forced upon us last update.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472
They're cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472
But I don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472
>>13265472
I love them enough to scrap them for rsc

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472
15080 yen plus shipping's worth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265540
What do you do with all that PVC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265541
Christ, you could ring 20 girls with that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265548

>buying figs is the same as buying stuff from a cash shop
>an extremely inconvenient cash shop for non-japs at that

I've spent well over $1000 on figs but I would never spend a penny on kancolle itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265541

Jesus christ the price on those...for that they better be made of a platinum-iridium alloy collected from fallen meteorites.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265348
>Stuck at 2-4 for one fucking month
>Still haven't get the boss road once
I'll probably be HQ lvl 40 before I'll beat that stupid level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265477
You regen 60 per hour so its only double what you would get naturally. You're better off putting your fleets on something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265472
>>13265553
>>13265555
I told myself I'd only buy figs of girls I marry or I'd bankrupt myself. Haven't married anyone yet, but Fusou and Hagurou have no figures yet. pls give.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265569
Yeah the slope is slippery. I knew I made a terrible mistake after getting into the game and looking at all the figs that were recently announced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265596
Yep. I'm a massive sucker for PVC. I have 55 figures with a few more on preorder.

[Anonymous No.]

Whatever happened to the guy who doomed those two accounts he had?

>>13265569
>>13265596
>tfw resolved not to buy figs at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265620
But anon, they're so pretty!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265632
To me, they make less practical sense than rings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265636
You do you man. I feel the opposite way. Figs are tangible and stuff. Rings are nice, but I feel like my figs will be around a lot longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265636
Just ring your figs, what's the problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265654
Genius.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265636

Your rings will eventually be nothing more than incinerated money as you either stop playing the game or when the servers eventually shut down.

Figs are forever until you break them while moving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265665

Rings are a symbol of my eternal love, which will still be around long after the sun has died and your plastic is dust.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you fail when sacrificing Maruyus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265678

I think you always get +8 luck when you use 5 kais at a time

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265678
Not with 5x

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265673
>and your plastic is dust

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265673

>being eternally in love with more than one shipfu

kuso as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265643
>>13265654
>>13265665
I'm a very careless person. Anything in my possession that stays intact for more than a while can be considered lucky. Figs would probably last maybe a month or two.

For obvious reasons, this doesn't apply to in-game stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

I am still waiting for the day for Yukikaze to drop by my base.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
I actually got Taihou before Hiryuu or Kaga.

[Anonymous No.]

Do I just occasionally switch out carriers? Because this happens every hour and it's getting annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265745

>CVL

[Anonymous No.]

I've always hated 3-5 monthly. It's a pain in the ass to sparkle every run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265753
Because I I've been neglecting her, but I don't want to level her directly and the passive xp builds up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
>DD:
Inazuma lvl 25
Shirayuki lvl 26
Wakaba lvl 52
Poi lvl 97
>CL(T):
Kiso lvl 99
Tenryuu lvl 60
Kuma lvl 27
>CA:
Haguro lvl 137
Nachi lvl 72
Maya lvl 90
>BB:
Kirishima lvl 99
Ise lvl 85
Haruna lvl 88
>CV/CVL:
Shouhou lvl 73
Akagi lvl 97
Souryuu lvl 80
RJ lvl 37
>SS
Goya lvl 65
Iku lvl 43
Imuya 2.0 lvl 36

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265791
>Haguro lvl 137
I hope you don't bully her for fun.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank you jesus, just got her while leveling up KTKM on 3-2. Just Haruna and Hiei to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265818
Never.

[Anonymous No.]

Are turbines/boilers still relevant? I'm running out of things to craft but don't have a single one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265974
Only the +13, even then it isn't used very often.

[Anonymous No.]

I want a 3bear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266014
LSC

[Anonymous No.]

S-rank how?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266099
South route, brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266099
The power of the D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266099
git gud

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266107
So swap in Kaga for RJ and F5 formation if I get sent east?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266099
Boss support.

>>13266107
Wrong quest, big guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266124
I completely forgot that was an option outside of events.

I'll give that a try tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266128
>I completely forgot that was an option outside of events.
And 5-5. It's the only non-event map people will typically remember considering support fleets for.

And hardly anyone would consider support for 5-1, even if it's for quests. I suspect it's due to the lack of a boss gauge you need to clear for it.

That said, I personally didn't use boss support. Took me like 6 or 7 tries. But then again, my sister who did took as many tries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266137
support for 5-1 is pretty handy for the latest mikawa fleet quest though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266141
You'll be surprised how few people considered it.

[Anonymous No.]

What a weird guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266147
I'm more surprised at how you seems to know a large enough amount of players to feel confident about saying that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266137
>>13266141
Yeah, this is opening up a world of opportunities for me now.

21st DesDiv quest to 3-2 with supports would probably lower the difficulty by a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266158
His taste is 50-50.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Your move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266186
But that's piss easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266186
6sub lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266186
All bob ships.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266165
And then I realized that supports don't work outside of World 5.

At least Haruna K2 quest will be a bit easier.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do Ooyodo and Choukai Kai2's battle voices look similar?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
DD: Murakumo 115, Verniy 94, Nagatsuki 73 and Mikazuki 55.
CL: Tenryuu 77, Kiso 96 and Kinu 56.
CA: Kinugasa 61, Atago 75 and Furutaka 78.
BB: Fusou 111, Mutsu 119 and Kongou 130.
CVL: Houshou 86, Ryuujou 123 and Shouhou 85.
CV: Akagi(crafted) 95, Hiryuu 86 and Souryuu 88.
SS: Imuya 141, Iku 149 and Goya 148.
Misc: Akashi 46, Akitsumaru 68 and Taigei 52.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266186
1 BBV 5 BBs. Easy S rank.

Might not even need 5 BBs.

[Anonymous No.]

Took a while to get that second Sendai to 60 for another yasen scout (and another flare)
Now to work on that third Sendai
3 Yasen scouts should be enough for any situation. And so should 4 flares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266227
>not planning for 6 night scouts
Are you even trying

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266214
>Why do Ooyodo and Choukai Kai2's battle voices look similar?
>voices look
What

[Anonymous No.]

>putting planes on a sub

What was the IJN thinking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266236
Go ahead and find me a situation where you need 6 night scouts and can also afford to use 6 night scouts

EO maps? They're a joke, except 5-5, and only 2-5 could use six night scouts on north route and they reliably S rank the boss even without one.

Combined fleet? You need 2 DD in combined fleet, making it a maximum of 4 night scouts. You can only have 1 CL and giving CLT a night scout is pointless.
Using CAs instead of CLTs for escort is equally pointless.

And this is all ignoring the fact that it's gimping yourself to use that many night scouts, both in ELOS and in actual efficiency.

TL;DR: You're a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266244
Voices have faces too you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266253
>not putting seirans on subs when 1-1 sparkling them

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266256
New event mechanic: Equipment locking.

[Anonymous No.]

Have you finished your 2-5 monthly quest yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266267
Not the one that needs 4 DDs, no. Haven't even unlocked it yet, last I checked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266267
That was the first thing I did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266244
In the year 2015 look is just a way of saying "appears to be".

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266265
After they dialed back the ship locking?
Not gonna happen. Ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266267
Myoukou's quest? Yes. The annoying one? Did it once, can't be arsed to do it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266214
Maybe it's megane power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266281
ship locking was just not justified in all events. Don't you remember the whole diversion stuff in two different places?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266281
Autumn 2015 was a much smaller event so ship locking, being a huge handicap, was dialled back. It was removed in winter 2015 because the devs were testing out difficulty mechanics.

It's going to come back in the next big event, with a vengeance.

Also
>implying gauge regen again never

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266299
You people continue to shit bricks while I'm over here with 3 yasen scouts, never needing a fourth one or more.
I'm gonna spend that extra exp for a fourth sendai on my Samidare instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266267
It's one of the first things I get out of the way. 2-5 is relatively easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266328
Yasen scout is never needed. It's just a good thing to have.

[Anonymous No.]

jesus christ

It took forever for me to finish the kongou sisters, and now that I have it's been nothing but KONGOU HIEI KONGOU KONGOU KIRISHIMA HARUNA KONGOU KIRISHIMA KIRISHIMA KONGOU

From drops, from recipes, everything I do I'm met with a Kongou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266253
>jpg

[Anonymous No.]

Do I really need hotels to beat 5-5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266427
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266427
it's a lot easier with hotels

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266253
Not that some weeb would judge their ship design decisions based on some arbitrary future game mechanic, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best fleet you can leave for someone to gain exp in pvp? Does it have to be 6 ships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266472
Leave highest two ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266472
Your two top-leveled ships.

[Anonymous No.]

How long do events usually last?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266256
More night scouts increase the chances of it activating? I thought it was dependent on LOS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266496
2-4 weeks. The harder they are the longer they are, and sometimes there are extensions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266496
About 14-20 days.
However, just like Summer and Fall '13, they may extend it if there are some troubles such as server issue.

[Anonymous No.]

I've promised to myself that I will never bully Hoppou, but 3-5 south route is being a bitch to me this month. I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266553
FUCKING WHY

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266553
>I've promised to myself that I will never bully Hoppou, but 3-5 south route is being a bitch to me this month
How many runs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266567
That's what you get for trying to bully.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266567
2, full sparkle with elites. Last run was disheartening, 3 taiha'd ships, and 3 chuuha'd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266582
>>13266572
Oops. Wrong reply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266582
Ignore the sparkle shit. The extra bonus makes sense in events, but the percentage boost in survival/success rates from sparkling isn't worth the time and rage you put into sparkling each fleet and each time you watch them get slaughtered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266099
Whaat. But this is 5-2. It's easy. Level up your destroyers, they shouldn't be taiha'd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266141
There's no point. The only hard thing about Mikawa quest is surviving the route to the boss and actually getting sent to it. Once you're there, it's guaranteed S rank thanks to night battle. You'll just waste resources sending support 10 times while Ta taihas someone on first node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266612
isn't there route support as well?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266591
I listened to your advice and cleared it in one go. Thanks.

>>13266573
Ironically, she bullied me hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266620
Oh, now I feel stupid, completely forgot about it.
I imagine you would still need to sparkle your girls though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266186
6CA(V) with 1 zuiun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266253
>>13266390
What are those squares supposed to convey

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266632
I guess so, yeah.
Personally, if I can use bonuses for my girls, I always do - even if it might not make it less expensive. If sparkling and support add more costs than they remove, I would still feel bad to refuse my girls the bestest chances.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266642
I seriously hope you aren't serious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266256
Why won't you put 2 night scouts on Ooyodo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266267
Haven't finished the 50 transport yet.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm really irritated that devs gated two Type 1 AP Shells behind Nagato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266427
All you need is enough love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266650
Haven't even done the 25 boss encounters yet.

What kind of fleet should I use for 2-5 while I'm still below HQ level 50?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266659
Yuubari or Ooyodo
4 CA
Mogami, all at around level 30-40
It takes you north and it's easy for your level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266673
I don't have Yuubari or Ooyodo, so I hope a normal CL will do. I'm also limited in my equipment options so I'll just give it a try and hope for the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266427
No.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck yeah!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266694

>no Haruna

what a kuso

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266694
You still got rekt, try again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266697
Haruna a shit, she has no character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266739
She's alright.

[Anonymous No.]

http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/44105145.html
Sakura Tange hinted that she might have used her red saber voice for something new and KanColle related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266697
She's close to level 99 (as in 3+k exp close) but I ran out of rings and won't be able to get more for another 2 weeks or so, and I don't want to waste exp if I can help it.

Besides, her firepower's the lowest out of the Kongou-class.

>>13266701
It doesn't matter whether I get rekt as long as I clear it, which is what anon was asking. I can have all ships in red and having only the enemy flagship sunk, but that'll still count as a clear anyway. That's just the kind of game it is.

[Anonymous No.]

I notice I sometimes get air superiority or even air supremacy in PvP, although I don't even have a single plane equipped.

Is the display just dependent on the percentage of planes shot down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266753
That's because opponent has no fighters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266753
Apparently if enemy planes in PvP have no fighter power and you shoot any of them down, you get air supremacy.

[Anonymous No.]

We marriage now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266966
Congratulations, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266966
Ok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266253
>>13266390
That was a fun thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266966

[Anonymous No.]

>>13265408
I should probably work on my Shigu K2.
My only K2 DD right now is Yuudachi, but I wasn't sure if I should K2 some others or just get Yukikaze and Shimakaze up to a more reasonable level (~36 right now).

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266966
Now you need to marry Yamashiro or simply you are not waking up one day, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266992
>>13266997
>tfw senpai will never notice her
Maybe one day.

[Anonymous No.]

So is 1-5 faster for DD/CL grinding than 4-3 if you are below 80?

[Anonymous No.]

Is KCV supposed to do this thing where it readjusts the volume of all your other applications like video players and even youtube? It's freaking annoying as all hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>ZR
>garters
>side-tie panties
>black see-through sailor uniform
>spankable ass

Why is Amatsukaze so incredibly lewd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267086
You forgot
>tenga

[Anonymous No.]

Goddammit Haruna, stop being the only one getting 100-1 in every 2-5 run I go to, that is NOT daijoubu!

[Anonymous No.]

4 days nonstop spamming 30/30/30/30, no Murakumo. /jp/ please grant me a bit of your magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267117
Play normally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267117
Your wish is granted, go forth with the blessing of /jp/ complaint gods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267124
I am. I have been.
>>13267125
You looks fake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267086
Also twintails while long haired.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I train more than two light carriers and does it matter in branching if they are slow?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267221
You can't help it but train more than two. I'm doing my best to not train them but they still get levels.
Sometimes it does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267221
>training light carriers
Light carriers train themselves at 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267086
You forgot there about her voice, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267086
I want to play with her windsocks.

[Anonymous No.]

What a faggot, left lv 121 Taihou but with AACI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267265
>bringing planes against a carrier
You are the retard here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267279
You bring green ones for AS, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267265
>bringing planes to PvP

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267284
>justifying it
Can you get even more retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267308
What you said was wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

Which one is the younger sister, Haruna or Kirishima?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267332
Under no circumstances do you bring any planes to pvp another carrier unless you don't mind losing couple hundred bauxite a pop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267353
You don't lose a couple hundred with fighters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267353
>not sparkling carriers to 100 for support expedition
Stay pleb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267353
Spoken like a true scrub. You bring carriers filled to the brim with fighters to gain AS+. The artillery spotting will then slaughter the enemy fleet at the cost of a few dozen bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267353
Artillery spotting is a thing you know

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267374
>>13267365
>>13267356
>>13267360
>needing AS to win in PVP
git gud

[Anonymous No.]

How could this guy lose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267379
Well, do you know any other way to sparkle them to 100? I didn't think so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267384
Probably overestimated his expedition team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267365
>>13267374
I'd rather spend a little more to either brute force my way through or bring non-as reliant ships than spending more bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267384
I thought it means he won?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267391
Bauxite is the hardest resource to gather but also the hardest to spend.
You only spend it for Taihou and radar crafting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267379
>Moving the goalpost

The argument was whether it is a waste of bauxite to field carriers. It's dirt cheap if you achieve AS+.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267391
I have 10k more bauxite than I do of any other resource, and I'm frequently fielding carriers and developing planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267365
>>13267374
How can't you realize that you are the one who is the scrub here? I won the pvp, you won the pvp. I didn't spend any bauxite, you did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267395
Nope, 勝利 means you won, just like in sorties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267395
No,when that say "敗北" that means your free exp giving succeed.But when it is "勝利" then this means someone failed to win a very easy pvp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267410
>>13267412
Oh, okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267406
You don't lose a couple hundred bauxite per pvp. You lose like 30 bauxite. If that is too much for you to handle then fucking quit the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267406
Is shitposting that fun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267421
I don't know how accurate is this 30, but let's just assume it is.
30 bauxite is worth 15 minutes of your expedition time. It translates into 1/4 buckets, 50 ammo and 15 steel if you do expedition 2 instead. Your choice.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally cleared desdiv31 3-2 quest while burning 3 damecons, was it worth it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267454
No. But at least your sanity is safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267454
No, burning damecons for easy quests is not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267459
It's only easy if RNG blesses you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267477
You need that blessing anyway to avoid a dead-end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266739
wow kill urself you shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267421
Unless your opponent brought AACI.
I always make sure to leave one ship with it overnight.

Ooops, did you need those 500 bauxite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267279
>>13267291
Shut up.
I brought 12 bombers. That's it. Just to have her be able to shell.
I'm not retarded enough to use planes on bigger slots.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw finally got Fubuki to Kai Ni
>tfw decided to do 3-3 for shits and giggles
>tfw Maikaze dropped from the boss node
Good times. I will probably finish training Naka chang, since she is level 44. Also, only 4 Kagerous to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267509
Why bother? Why not just leave two level 1 ships as your flag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267518
Subscribed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267384
Where can I find the info what those mean? Please, don't answer with jisho.org or kanji.sljfaq.org/drawj.html.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267518
Liked, shared and subscribed. :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267509
Nice try. AACI only shoots down bombers. The fighters can only be shot down during dogfighting.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Reikyu/A_brief_look_at_AA_defense_and_AA_cut-in_performance

[Anonymous No.]

3-5 sure is the biggest troll map ever. Just got my flagship DD crit to red by the weakest enemy DD in node 1.

Flagship protection? Evasion? Defense? It all amounts to nothing more than if the enemy rolls a 20 and ignores everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267534
Read the fucking wiki

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267521
Because lvl 1 flags make it too obvious you're an asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267543
>not leaving first ship as lvl 1 and second ship as lvl 150

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267540
Do 5-5 and then you can talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267534
Learn to read keywords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267546
What's the point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267399
You should sortie somewhere else than 1-1, 2-3, 3-2 and 4-3.

>>13267454
>Finally
>those levels
My Mutsukis are lv 40-52 and I have yet to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267571
>You should sortie somewhere else than 1-1, 2-3, 3-2 and 4-3.
What for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267542
le wigi meme xD

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267562
First ship is Akashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267543
Why do you care about your reputation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267577
That doesn't make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267542
There's nothing there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267575
Fun? To actually play the game instead of mindlessly grinding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267589
You sortie to maps you've already beaten for the sake of sortieing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267581
Reputation is irrelevant.
Who would waste resources to fight a fleet with lvl 1 flagships unless they're desperate for a quest win?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267595
I do carrier quests on 3-3 or 5-4. Why not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267603
3-3 is for weeklies and 5-4 for experience so that's understandable.
But you don't lose that much bauxite there anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>13267615
They are finally going to pull a 'Phantasy Star Online 2' and blacklist all IP's and accounts outside of nip-land.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267595
Casual spotted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267550
5-5 doesn't troll you, you know you'll be hit to red as soon as you go there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267595
yes, people actually play the game you fucking idiot lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267610
If you only go for AS on 3-3 or 5-4 you can lose more than 200 bauxite in one run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267596
I would.

Just send like 4 level 1 DDs.

Unless you mean a setup like
Level 1 Level 1
Level 150 Level 150
Level 150 Level 150

because then fuck that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267639
That's a waste of resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267652
You're beyond saving.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267657
But this game is all about fleet optimization and resource management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267663
No, it isn't. They're important skills but not the point of game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267663
Then just don't play and LSC when you hit resource cap.

Zero resources used, maximum optimization.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267668
What about Maruyu LSC?
And that's what a good chunk of people do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267615
>DMMさんのオンラインゲームプラットフォームのメンテナンスが、来週4/7(火曜日) 02:30～09:30に実施される予定です。同メンテナンス中は課金アイテムの購入等が出来ません。詳しい情報は、DMMオンラインゲームトップのお知らせをご覧ください。

From kancolle twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this one any good? Randomly picked up while running 2-2 for daily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267739
Do you like sour things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267739
Check the wiki

[Anonymous No.]

So how feasible is farming node H on 6-1?
I need I-401, and am trying to complete 5-4 today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267745
I love sour candy, but not sour food. When food is sour, that means it's gone bad or is pickled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267739
She's one of the better carriers. At the very least you will want to kai2 her to get the best divebomber in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267767
Just do LSC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267739
You see that cute dazzling smile she has there? Shattered once you kai2 her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267786
>>13267793
Speaking of which..

[Anonymous No.]

>doing world 2 daily at 2-4 with 5 subs like always
>accidentally send fleet to 2-2
>ohshitwon'treachbossnode.jpg
>spin compass at preboss resource node
>sent east and not southeast
>reach boss node, perfect S rank in the day
Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267657
But he's saving resources.

So how's that beyond saving?

He's a good ttk. Unlike me, who spends all his buckets rushing minor damage and frequently doing Yamato recipes when I don't even have a Kaga or Nagato.

>>13267739
Her Kai Ni is straight up inferior to Akagi Kai.

So..no. Not really. She's a better temp carrier than lights until you can get a Shoukaku or Kaga though. Hiryuu is slightly better.

Worth it to remodel though, as the other anon said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267787
But I'll never get her that way. Drops I've at least had some luck with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267815
Subscribd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267816
Her offensive stats are far better than Akagi. How does that maker inferior? That's like saying Hiryuu is inferior to Akagi which is just outright false.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267816
She'll be my temp carrier forever then. Doesn't she also get fancy planes when you kai ni her? She's definitely the happiest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267828
He's comparing them as Reppuu mules.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I just sortie 1-1 36 times for that one weekly quest? Or are there better methods?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267856
It is by far the fastest. Don't think of it as mindless grinding. Think of it as sparkling your whole fleet for expeditions/hard maps etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267852
> Turkey annoyed

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267852
Make baseball, not war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267855
>as Reppuu mules.
Then why he mentioned Shoukaku there ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267880
Probably because she has more plane capacity than Akagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267880
I don't think he knows what he's talking about. Shoukaku is straight up garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267816
Umm, nope?
Dragons have the best slot placement of all carriers but lose to Kaga's sheer amount. With Taihou it's more even and they have obvious advantage over Akagi. Bigger big slot, a bit bigger or same second slot, almost the same third slot. Souryuu reaches damage cap with basically anything while Akagi needs strongest dive bomber. Akagi also loses in evasion and consumption.

>>13267855
Huh? If you're using one, two or three fighters Souryuu has tiny advantage. Unless you use Reppuu Kai and two Reppuu 601 - then they're the same. Someone has to carry the Saiun, dragons are great for that.

[None !RJTTKr2Pzw No.]

>>13263627
Finally RJ got her 2nd remodel,but shell be still accompanying Ushio and Shigure for a while until they have their 2nd remodel too. After that,it's finally Tone/Chikuma time. Wish my HQ wasn't already 81,otherwise I would have felt pretty good for my highest levelled ship being 75.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267880
>>13267888
http://aircalc.net/index.htm?yIUAxIDpiIDQgkzMsc-oz6jPqNOoUMynz6jPqM-ow6gAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA=

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267893
Cool useless scenario. Souryuu is better in anything realistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267897
Well he did say Reppuu mule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267891
Wow TTK... I just hit level 80 and I married my first boat earlier this morning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267902
That scenario falls apart the moment Reppuu Kai and Reppuu 601 come into play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267913
I won't deny that.

That said, I do miss Jun'you's old slot sizes having Kai Ni'd her.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh great, 2 sorties in 3-5 and my DD got hit to red in the first node two times in a row.
What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267902
True, but Reppuu mules tend to have purpose. Stuffing your Akagi or Souryuu with Reppuu doesn't make sense. It's better to fill out Kaga and let other carrier have a bomber or Saiun if you're desperate for every bit of afp.

>>13267891
I'm HQ102 and never had a ship at the same level as my HQ outside of first few hours. It should change next week though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267916
It's normal. Stop whining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267916
You're complaining about it

[Anonymous No.]

I'd rank the carriers at Kaga > Taihou > Hiyuu > Souryuu > Akagi > Cranes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267923
Prototype resource savers are carriers as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267923
Kaga > Taihou > Hiryuu ≈ Akagi > Souryuu > Shoukaku-class > Unryuu > Amagi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267923
>>13267938
EN > Shinano > Kaga > Taihou > Dragons > Akagi > Cranes > Unryuu > Amagi

[Anonymous No.]

Man 5-4 is so disappointing after the ballache that is 5-3. 4 buckets in 4 kills so far, and 2 of those because I ate tiny crits that were enough to send a CV or CLT into Chuuha during Green T.
Awesome exp though, I can see why people recommend this map for leveling. Is the method similar to 3-2A, only with slightly harder enemies?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267918
>level 13
>Kaga
>Kongo class
You've got to be kidding me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267615
Doesn't affect play, only cash shop

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267958
>There are people this unlucky
Not him, but I got my Kaga before I had my Akagi and had my fourth fleet before I cleared 2-3. It's not his fault you have shit luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267958
I did a lot of crafting. All CAs come from BB recipe. Kaga was my third carrier attempt though (after Chitose and Houshou), I got lucky with her. She'll be the first one to exceed my HQ level.
If it makes you feel better, I still don't have Nagato or LSC ships.

[Anonymous No.]

new thread
>>13267970

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267958
It's not that weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267958
Kongou

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267966
Your post heavily implies that me or anyone else actually had a choice to prevent or do something about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267974
>/kcg/
Look who is back

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267984
Not surprising considering /vg/ thread is ded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267981
I just said that your luck is or at least was shit when you began playing. Some people get some lucky crafts early on. In the end, it is all RNG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267953
You can think of 5-4 as a reward for clearing 5-3. And as for training there, you can either do 5-4A or full runs work as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268005
Not him, but what do you use for a full run?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268011
Drum mule, 2 carriers, whatever you want. I usually use BB and two CAs to be safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267975

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267916
Try 13 times in a row. I've been stuck on 3-5 final kill since 5 hours ago. Every time I get past node 1, I get double attacked by spotting node 2.

Honestly, after 6 fails I should have figured this was a crappy day and quit trying.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck I just realized Mikuma remodel level is 30. Up until now I've always raised her to 35 before I farm the gun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268025
She was my first BB, I've nothing to be ashamed of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268027
Serves you right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268025
What am I looking at here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267918
>and never had a ship at the same level as my HQ outside of first few hours.
Is it really that unusual?

The only reason Kongou isn't higher is because I've been training some other shipsgirls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268027
>tfw still in no Mikuma club after one year and half

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268026
After 11 tries I made it, I think I'll give it 10 more buckets until I try again next week.

[Anonymous No.]

Trying to do 3-2 boss with 6DD's, whats the best formation to avoid damage? I've been doing line ahead so far and always get someone in the red on the pre-boss.

Also for the record Yuudachi is not fully maxed stats-wise because I got her like 2 hours ago, however it should not be much of a problem since all the drops I get from my attempts go straight into her modernization tab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268089
Line ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268091
So there's no way around it aside from damecon. Okay

[Anonymous No.]

Who was more important to use in Winter 2015, Fusou k2 or Tone k2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268110
There was no MVP. Many girls contributed to success in similar amounts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268107
Line abreast + damecon for all the other nodes, then Line Ahead on the boss node.

Wiki information proved right for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268110
Tone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267974
>Make a new thread earlier, it dies.
>Make another new thread anyways.

Why? Does this satisfy you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268110
Ooi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268115
I want to know, based on who will be my first blueprint remodel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268110
Fusou K2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268128
Wagahai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268128
Do Tone because she's cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268132
>Do Tone
Chikuma won't allow that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268117
I'll give it a try thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

So, how am I supposed to beat 3-2 again? This is what happened to my fleet after Node F.

Used Line Ahead but this is ridiculous.

Every ship has 12.7cm Twin Cannons x 2 and a Quad Torpedo; Yuudachi a 12.7cm Twin Cannon Type B Kai 2 instead of a normal 12.7

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268049
I made it two attempts later after posting. Think it merely cost 45 buckets to do the last kill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268152
>Every ship has 12.7cm Twin Cannons x 2 and a Quad Torpedo
How did you get to 3-2 without reading the fucking wiki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268157
Pure luck actually, beat 2-4 on my first attempt without knowing what I was doing either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268152
set everyone up for torpedo cut in

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268162
Should I try to avoid as much damage as possible during the day phase of the battle then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268110
Only map I used Tone in Winter 2015 was E5 and I quickly abort that idea. Otherwise I used Fusou on every single map (exept E1).
But I recommend to remodel Tone, because elite CAV will be probably more useful than BBV (I just prefer to use other CA than Tone-class).

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268182
Nope, elite BBV is more useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268152
First time I even tried 3-2 everyone was so strong they just stomped through it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268110
Fusou was needed to get air superiority at E-4

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268202
RNG

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268202
Which formation did you use for Node F? Also, torpedo cut-in setup?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268152
>>13268202
Same, for my clear I had everyone at Kai with 3 torps, and they went straight to the boss on the very first try and killed it.

Now when I try to clear comp quests sending me back there I get blasted repeatedly.

[Anonymous No.]

What do I need for expeditions to not fail continuously? I can't even seem to succeed in passing the first one 80% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268222
You could try reading the wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>Hachi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268212
Line ahead.
I think Shigure was the only one with torpedos, the rest had double attack.

[Anonymous No.]

What average level do you recommend clearing 2-5? I'm taking the south route mentioned in the wiki with a composition of 4x BBs and 2x CV/Ls. (Can CVLs work on the third route? My Hiyou is already Lv 70 and she packs a punch.)

Currently have Kongou at level 75, Fusou at 60, the next highest BBs I have are Hiei and Kirishima at 43 and 41 ,respectively. For CVs/CVLs, to go along with my Hiyou at 70, I have Kaga coming in with level 53 then Akagi at 47.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268247
That sounds fine, but I would bring Akagi and Kaga instead of Hiyou if they're fully modernized, given they can bring more planes and CVLs are made of paper.

[Anonymous No.]

Praise be to boss support!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268247
If those are your levels, you should have done it few weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268226
Looking at the requirements, I should be fine for the early missions as they don't have any real major specifics for running them. Is it just RNG being RNG?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268268
why are you even using souryuu and hiryuu kai 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268278
>forgetting about the dragons quest

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268282
That no name quest to easy to remember, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268282
Hiryuu's quest is piss easy so I can't blame the anon for forgetting about it. When it was posted in last thread I wanted to reply with "move your Hiryuu below BB and keep trying", didn't even find it strange for someone to be clearing 5-2 with DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268107
You see....

the formations, they don't actually matter when it comes to this. Yeah?

You could use line abreast to decrease damage
or line ahead to increase damage
or double line to increase accuracy
or diamond to increase aa
or echelon just because

but none of this matters.

You put a damecon on each ship, pretend like you're playing strategically with different formations each time, and you go sacrifice 666 of every resource for luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268293
Souryuu's quest on the other side is something you don't easily forget about, it took me over 40 sorties to get it done and that probably left some psychological damage on me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268332
And all you get is a furniture fairy (lol)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268332
Yeah, I felt like after beating an event map when I was finally over with it. In the end I decided it's better to use 2CA instead of CAV + BB - latter forces you to go north, increasing chance for bauxite node. Meanwhile with 2CA you either go through mealstrom (retreat after that because you have zero chance of S ranking boss) or south to sub node and guaranteed east to preboss. Took 23 tries, eight of which went to bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268341
Well, I didn't even do it for the reward, just for the sake of completion like with the new 5-1 Mikawa fleet quest, I even forgot I could bring support fleets there but I already completed it.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I remodel my subs? I hear the quirk of having them repair relatively quick compare to the ships goes to a whopping 40m and up depending on the damage. Though I suppose the remodel will make them tankier and dodge better to avoid getting crazily damaged in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268350
Dude what, it's 50% chance for preboss either way. The only difference is that 2 CA gets you a maelstrom instead of bauxite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268353
try equipping them with boilers

[Anonymous No.]

I just crafted reppuu on my first try today.
Am I super lucky or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268357
Deal with it, worked for me. Similarly I got E2 final kill after switching Ashigara in and E3 final kill after switching Prinz in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268375
Very, I only have 5 over my whole career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268375
Not til you have enough for a full combined fleet.

[Anonymous No.]

Are 4 subs around the 30-40 level enough to cheese 3-4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268405
Get six to be safe.

[Anonymous No.]

Are we being deleted again?
What's going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268420
This thread looks fine to me.

[Anonymous No.]

Based on the previous event, who would be a solid choice for a second CL to work on Kai Ni for?
I already have Sendai at Kai Ni, so the night equip is all set at the very least.

Isuzu looked tempting, since she has some nice equipment, but her main role as an ASW vessel probably wouldn't help me much. Since I don't have a Yuubari and started too late to get Ooyodo, I would suspect Jintsuu is my best option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268420
No, as you can see this thread is still up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268420
>we
Janny's finally cracking down on the /kcg/ faggot. About time too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268423
Jintsuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268423
Yes, work on Jintsuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268423
Jintsuu is the strongest, Ooyodo is the most useful.
Sendai gives eq and has decent stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268425
>>13268422
We are looong over bump limit.
Why are we being forced into this thread?

>>13268426
Fuck off autist. There was nothing wrong with that thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268227
I only have the flagship alive at 18 hp and Imuya did a cut in for 2 damage.
Then Goya decided it would be funny to fail to perform a Cut in and missed her torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268381
I fucking love log comments.
Do you do them for yourself or is it just spicing up for future jp postage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268436
Fuck off. Nobody likes you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268443
>still denying we are a general

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268427
>>13268428
>>13268430
Would 1-5 be best until she can actually evade against some targets in 4-3? I'm not HQ lvl 80 yet so 1-5 isn't that awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268443
Stop replying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268450
Yes, abuse 1-5A as long as you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268436
There's still a good 8 hours left for this thread, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268442
I got the idea from here but mostly do them for myself. They help in dealing with bullshit and I can also note down special achievements of my girls so they aren't forgotten.
I also love it when people post them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268454
Good goy.
Haven't you noticed only we are being treated like shit? Why can't we have proper new threads like everyone else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268469
What good would new threads do for you? What do you want to do in a new thread that can't be done in an existing one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268469
Muh 2hu threads must be protected.

[Anonymous No.]

Your move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268469
You're using your epic memes incorrectly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268486
Just send bob CA(V)s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268452
Just fatigue grind it and don't bother going A-C?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268482
Being able to open the thread without freezing?
Not wasting posts?
Not having to deal with the oppression?

What do you want to do in an old thread that can't be done in a fresh one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268486
I just send a normal fleet and watch as Akashi gets blown to pieces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268486
CLTs

[Anonymous No.]

So what's the best setup for clearing 6-1, 3CV 3SS?
I haven't leveled my Taigei yet, just left her looking cute all this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268502
CLT/CL/SS/SS/SS/CV

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268497
>Being able to open the thread without freezing?
Get a computer. If you don't have money, go to work. Only adults are allowed to browse this site.

>Not wasting posts?
You're retarded.

>Not having to deal with the oppression?
You're retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268482
As far as I can see that thread didn't break any rules, thus there was no justifiable ground for deletion.
You can't explain it, janny just has a vendetta against shipgirls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268505
I cleared 6-1 for the first time with Level 1 Taigei, just use her

AS/CL/4SS or AS/2DD/4SS

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268510
>this post
Neo-jp at its finest.
Go back to /v/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268497
-Why would you need to open a thread if you're already in it?
-Posts aren't wasted as long as someone sees them, on the other hand having two threads guarantees that posts are wasted since not everyone will be monitoring or be aware of both
-It's hard to be oppressed on an anonymous image board, anon

-I want to carry on a single flow of conversation rather than one that splits off into two when a concurrent thread is made, causing information to be lost

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268512
Using Taigei took me like 6 attempts just to A rank it, and she wasn't even some level 1 ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268520
>A rank
Or was it a B rank, can't remember.

I do know I failed to sink the flagship. And all my ships were sparkled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268520
I've never gotten her hit to even moderate before boss and I haven't used this Taigei on any other map, so I don't know what's up with that

[Anonymous No.]

If I want fuel do I keep abusing of my subs to 2-3 or just wait?
Kinda wanna lvl up my melon and Isuzu for future 1-5's since I'm still under HQlvl80
lvling up shit apart from DD's and CL is gonna be a pain in the ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268531
2-3 + expeditions + daily/weekly quests

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268436
Everything was wrong with it, you fucking autist. People are just reporting your shitty threads when this one is still good for god knows how many more hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268518
Why not keep posting in the archive then? Threads stay there forever. Imagine all that discussion to be had in a single thread!
Oh wait, you are just a forumtard whose threads need to be locked to get the hint.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268486
Subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268538
>People are just reporting
On what ground?
"I don't like it therefore delete it"?
This is the behavior expected of SJWs, not from channers.
You do understand most people don't care about the OP, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
>DD
Fubuki #1 lv72
Shigure #2 lv96
Shirayuki #3 lv49
Shikinami #4 lv45
>CL(T)
Kiso #14 lv96
Kuma #19 lv45
Tenryuu #24 lv50
Jintsuu #25 lv72
>CA(V)
Kinugasa #21 lv64
Maya #54 lv84
Choukai #70 lv72
>BB(V)
Yamashiro #202 lv86
Kirishima #278 lv85
Hyuuga #333 lv64
>CVL
Chitose #40 lv81
Houshou #101 lv65
Chiyoda #136 lv79
>CV
Akagi #238 lv91
Kaga #289 lv95
Soryuu #550 lv90
Hiryuu #3314 lv94
>SS(V)
Imuya #167 lv95
Iku #1620 lv99
Hachi #2149 lv99

started in Sept 2013.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268547
Apparently they do and you are getting blown the fuck out. It's actually amusing, please do continue, your futile attempts to passively shit these threads up are amusing me greatly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268547
>most people don't care about the OP
>implying

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268547
I careabout the OP, what do I win?

You might as well go to /vg/ if you want to keep the /kcg/ shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268559
He did, no one followed and he got blown the fuck out there too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268547
>channers
Fuck off.
Anons are supposed to lurk more.
Your behavior is that of SJW. You go into someone else's home, shit in the middle of the room and throw up a tantrum when people tell you to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268547
Rule 2.
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, uncalled for catchphrases.

/kcg/ is trolling and uncalled for catchprhases from /vg/

[Anonymous No.]

Please stop replying, we all know nobody likes this and there's no need to keep responding and constantly reiterating these points

Just ignore, report, and talk about boats

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268574
>boats
You're not much better.

[Anonymous No.]

just got two reppuu from doing dailies wtf

[Anonymous No.]

Where else beside Orel can I send my subs so that they don't think they are being slaved, but in truth they still are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268553
Autists throwing shitfits are equally amusing.

>>13268576
>>13268576

>>13268569
Those are called blanket rules for a reason.
/kcg/ is not from /vg/ either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268580
4-2, 5-5, 6-1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13262438
Talking about the OP, thank god its back. If possible, you should add this version of kcv
https://github.com/yuyuvn/KanColleViewer
It got updated some days ago, the new feature detailed fleet lets you see plane capacity in the mid of a sortie, so you can know actualy how much FP you have atm, if you are gonna make it with the LOS, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268574
>>13268575
>kancolles

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268583
Time for a 4-2 field trip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268567
>You go into someone else's home, shit in the middle of the room and throw up a tantrum when people tell you to leave.
You do realize that this is basically the welcome Kancolle threads received here in the first place, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268575
>>13268588
never have i seen a fanbase more autistic about the way in which their characters must be referred

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268587
Advertising is against the rules.
These shitty tools can be found through the wiki, stop spamming them for the e-peen. They are not advised to be used.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268600
One of the many more reasons for you to abandon this thread and board, and perhaps maybe abandon the site as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268610
>They are not advised to be used.
By who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268575
Not him but that isn't even important.
Besides calling them boats is kinda humorous sometimes.

Anyway let us just please ignore the oppression anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268611
i have been posting in these threads since the very first kancolle thread came to /jp/ in july of 2013

you autistic tribal fucks came later

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268614
Don't respond to him, it's the /kcg/ OPs retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268587
Is the interface in English or anime speak? I've been using Yuubari's fork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268618
>this guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268618
>Anyway let us just please ignore the oppression anon.
Do you deny war crimes too? Just curious~

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268631
OH
FUCK
OFF
PLEASE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268436
Nobody cares about bumplimit in /jp/ and nobody has ever cared. You must be new, and should start off lurking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268614
By those who used them.
KCV breaks every week and massively slows down the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268640
>KCV breaks every week and massively slows down the game.
Please provide evidence of this claim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268610
Wat. I didnt build that version, Yuubari itself linked it some months ago telling that(probably you dont know this newfag) he cant do much, and that version was more complete and have both horizontal and vertical version in one .exe, so fuck off.
>>13268623
English of course, If you compare it to yuubari's fork, I think this one comsumes a little more ram, but its more like a spiritual update to Z's fork, same good old features that he introduced back in the day.
This is what it looks after a sortie/pvp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268640
>KCV breaks every week and massively slows down the game.
Has never ever happened to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268640
No it doesn't and you're retarded, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268587
I'm surprised there are two separately maintained English repositories.

>>13268640
I used the same version of KCV for a year without running into problems other than ??? icons appearing because the icons weren't updated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268633
I hit a nerve, didn't I?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268633
By posting >>13268618, I can't say you didn't ask for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268657
So you are trolling and not actually retarded.
>>>/b/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268657
The only oppression here is the continued drum-beating about "war crimes" used to justify the continued repression of Japan's desire to become a normal nation. Japan did nothing wrong.

>>13268663
Why do you even care if people call them boats? Is the honor of your shipwife at stake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268647
Sounds good, I'll give it a go.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you still letting this shit up the thread? Stop replying, it makes the thread unusable for the topic it's meant for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268670
>Why do you even care if people call them boats?
Pure autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268675
>lose argument
>pls stop
no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268671
Edited the pic. Yeah, its pretty nice, it takes 2 or 3 days to translations to appear, so prety good and fast. Im not sure how active is Yuubari anymore so maybe you are behind in quest or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268677
It's hard to tell who you're referring to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268684
If I were him, I'd be replying to them to shit up the thread even more and force everyone into the newer thread. Just stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268657
I want to flog and drown you like the worthless pig you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268686
Thing is, can I still poke my waifu when I'm just fucking around?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268689
I'd let Hachi commit war crimes to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268689
that hull is too lewd

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268631
Ehh but I haven't committed any warcrimes to deny.

Just like how there isn't any oppression to deny here.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do I keep getting sent from B to F dead end in 2-5? I'm using 4FBB/2CV like the wiki says.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this a good fleet to sortie 5-2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268720
You should lvl up that Kirishima

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268720
You should use 2CAV with 2 drums and 4CA like the wiki says. I've never missed the boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268728
The drums are unnecessary

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268722
Why Melon and KTKM? You might have problems if you're lacking in planes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268720
4FBB and 2CV doesn't guarantee you the boss node like the other fleets so you're at the mercy of the RNG gods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268731
They are necessary for guaranteed north.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268732
For that sub node. Or is it better to bring no ASW and hope you weather the hits?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268631
War crimes are mostly post-war propaganda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268733
>2 T32s and one T33 on my ships in support fleet
>miss
>miss
>miss
I swear, the 97% cap must be an accuracy cap, not a dodge rate cap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268736
It's unnecessary to always go north, a full CA(V) fleet will get through the south-route as well.
And you'll go north most of the time anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268739
Why would anti-Japanese propaganda escalate after the war?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268738
They're made out of paper though. The only time I used ASW ships on 2-5 was Hiryuu quest. You might bring one CL though if you don't want to risk C rank, as subs' scratch can outdamage the CVL's damage.

>hope
Abyssals need a lot of luck to do more than scratch on sub node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268740
Didn't mean to quote.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268746
5-2*
(I don't consider CVL an ASW ship, it can't even kill elite sub if you don't have Akitsumaru's eq)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268744
Ask /pol/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268587
Who's bright idea was it to have this thing near the close button?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268375
Yes, you are. I've been trying to craft one for the past two months with no success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268744
To justify and sweep under the table Allied war crimes during post-war tribunals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268779
Anything stand out in your mind besides firebombing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268782
Mutilation of war dead, torching soldiers who surrendered instead of sending them into prisoner camps, rape sprees in France and Japan are the most famous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268791
Propaganda inventions aside, how would you say that American crimes stack up against those of Japan's in terms of scale?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268765
Unless you are playing kancolle with a gamepad, I dont see a problem, but I see where are you coming from. That and having instant build counter instead of buckets is kinda bad, but thats the only bad points I can find of this version. I wish I knew how to leave feedback on github without fucking out the site.
If you are using horizontal on a portable, there's new option in the settings menu, it lets you use icons instead of text so you can save more space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268746
You're right, the subs don't do much there. This one's easier than I thought. Heavy on the resource consumption with this fleet though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268798
I think the torch/screws are there instead of buckets because you can see your number of buckets in the game itself

[Anonymous No.]

Can't everyone working on the different KanColle forks pool their efforts together and make a fork with all of the good points and none of the bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268782
Operation Crossroads. The US dropped their nukes on Bikini Atoll knowing full well the wind would carry the fallout to other populated islands. All the inhabitants of Bikini Atoll and nearby islands that suffered with the fallout lost their island homes pretty much for good. There's also the whole martial law thing that happened in Hawai'i where the Japanese were treated like they were below trash and some got sent to camps across the mainland only to never be able to come back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268798
I found the icon option, great feature along with the fleet details.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268796
Honestly, you can't put a scale on such things. Japs were much more reserved in such things on persona level for sure though, while US Army soldiers and especially muhreens were very famous for their "archivements".

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268815
Peart Harbor never forget, my friend :^)

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>>13268815
>1946
War crimes usually happen during wars.

[Anonymous No.]

So, if I want to farm 1-5 as much as I can before I hit HQ level 80, what's the best way to do it?

Should I level 6 ships at once? Do I need to give a shit about morale if I'm only doing the first 3 nodes?

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>>13268828
>Japs were much more reserved in such things on persona level for sure though, while US Army soldiers and especially muhreens were very famous for their "archivements".
Mutilation of war dead is probably the single field in which the USA exceeded (or even came close) to approaching the Japanese.

Also firebombing, unrestricted submarine warfare, and forced migration if you count that.

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>>13268828
> Japs were much more reserved in such things on persona level for sure though,
>while US Army soldiers and especially muhreens were very famous for their "archivements".

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268847
First three nodes with whatever you want until HQlvl40
After that it's 1-5-A all the time with DD/CL with Sonar and depth charges

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>>13268850
See >>13268739.

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>>13268853

What about morale?

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>>13268855
>Showa 12 (1937)
This was published before the war had even involved the US.

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>>13268739
What is Unit 731?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268855
Why would we trust a single army handbook more valuable than other assessments? Particularly one that was released before the United States had the opportunity to see first-hand the state of most occupied territories.

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>>13268844
Yeah, I know. Just putting it out there that things happened even after the war.
>>13268836
Pearl Harbor shouldn't have existed. They threatened the king at the time with a gun to his head in order to get his signature on the paper that would give ownership to the US.

[Anonymous No.]

And this was after forgetting to send route and boss support.

[Anonymous No.]

Only been a day since getting through 3-2 and now I'm done with 3-3, I'm making my way. I even got Hiei to boot so now I just need Haruna and I can have a dedicated bucket fleet. I finally feel like I'm making progress.

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>>13268859
In the second case it doesn't really matter
I dunno in the first case, don't really remember but I'd say it doesn't really matter either since it has like 3 per node except for the first one

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>>13268849
The US were as guilty of mutilation of the war dead as the Japanese. The difference is that the Japanese also practiced mutilation of the war living.

Given the inaccuracy of bombing (particularly night bombing) of the period and the military value of most of the targets, the firebombing campaign on either front was legal under contemporary laws of proportionality and would be legal under modern international law.

Forced migration actually is a war crime, no objections there.

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>>13268875
>They threatened the king at the time with a gun to his head in order to get his signature on the paper that would give ownership to the US.
Technically it was private military adventurers and a queen, but close enough. Almost like how the Japanese did Manchuria.

>>13268865
I was about to say you got the date wrong before realizing that DAI NIPPON TEIKOKU writes right to left.

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>>13268890
>would be legal under modern international law.
This is primarily because modern international law concerning war crimes was largely established AT the Tokyo and Nuremberg war crimes tribunals, so of course nobody was going to get indicted for things we did and they didn't.

>legal under contemporary laws of proportionality and would be legal under modern international law.
Maybe if the Chinese had been the ones doing the bombing, sure.

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>>13268867
Holocaust-tier.
>>13268871
You seriously think that by late 1944 clappistani haven't seen it all?

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>>13268878
What levels? Do you have 46 equipped on Kongous?

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>>13268915
>This is primarily because modern international law concerning war crimes was largely established AT the Tokyo and Nuremberg war crimes tribunals
Incorrect. "Crimes against humanity" were introduced in the Nuremberg trials, but laws regarding the kiling of civilians, proportionality and conduct at wartime had already been formalized in the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907.

>Maybe if the Chinese had been the ones doing the bombing, sure.
>Under international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute, the death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime. International humanitarian law and the Rome Statute permit belligerents to carry out proportionate attacks against military objectives,[7] even when it is known that some civilian deaths or injuries will occur.

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>>13268894
The overthrow was the queen, King Kalakaua was the one who signed away Pearl Harbor.

[Anonymous No.]

Welp, I've had more attempts LSCing Yamato than Musashi and Bismarck combined now.

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>>13268918
Levels: 98/120/120/95/92/98
46/46/night scout/radar on each BB
Was testing out a new build where only Hiryuu had an attack plane; rest had 3 green 1 damecon. Hiryuu also had damecon on smallest slot.

I was really lucky to get a red T at the preboss because that meant everyone had green HP going into the boss node.

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>>13268917
>You seriously think that by late 1944 clappistani haven't seen it all?
Yes? They don't even set foot on the Phillipines until October 1944 (you may have heard of a battle called Leyte). Where in Guadalcanal would the Japanese be able to rape and murder civilians even if they wanted?

>nternational humanitarian law and the Rome Statute permit belligerents to carry out proportionate attacks against military objectives,
Proportionate is code for "as long as a single military target was there, it's okay."

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>>13268937
4/6/6/2/1?

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>>13268960
Yes.

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>>13268917
>You seriously think that by late 1944 clappistani haven't seen it all?
Yes? They don't even set foot on the Phillipines until October 1944 (you may have heard of a battle called Leyte). Where in Guadalcanal would the Japanese be able to rape and murder civilians even if they wanted?

>>13268924
>international humanitarian law and the Rome Statute permit belligerents to carry out proportionate attacks against military objectives,
Proportionate is code for "as long as a single military target was there, you can do pretty much whatever you want."

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>>13268951
Thank you. Seeing the Kongous in your screen made me think I might have a small chance but the levels are 82/94/87/85/86/98, with Souryuu instead of Taihou. I only have two 46 cm and one night scout, no T32 either. Now I'll be able to calmly focus on other stuff, leaving 5-5 for May.

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>>13268975
Even if you had the levels and equipment I wouldn't advise you to do it either way.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good map/method to mass level multiple low level CA, currently around 20-25 range?
Just looking to boost them to 35-40 or so and then I can focus on one at a time.

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>>13268966
>Proportionate is code for "as long as a single military target was there, it's okay."
Incorrect. Nobody was prosecuted for German actions in bombing London or Warsaw, just as nobody was prosecuted for Allied actions in bombing Dresden and Tokyo, because these were cities that held real military value and were in the process of active resistance.

Japanese actions in Nanking and post-surrender Hong Kong, however, were prosecuted because they were open cities in which civilians and POWs were killed beyond any real military objective.

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>>13268985
It's actually easier to mass level stronger CA - at 3-3 or 5-4.

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>>13268985
If you have 3 Kai'd CAs (each with 2 red 1 plane 1 radar) with max firepower + armour (preferably torp as well) you can go 4 CA 2 CV at 3-3. Flagship will be an un-Kai'd CA (with 2 red 1 plane); rotate among the un-kai'd CAs as the flagship until all your CAs are Kai'd and modernised.

This works best if you have strong green planes on your CVs.

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>>13268986
>Incorrect. Nobody was prosecuted for German actions in bombing London or Warsaw
This is BECAUSE if they tried that, they'd have to try themselves for Dresden and Tokyo (not to mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki). It was a game the Americans could not lose because they invented the rules.

If Japan exterminated the entire population of San Francisco, say, a biological weapon (note that Japan had not ratified the biological convention protocol at the time) on the grounds that California was engaged in "activate resistance" they would have to answer it after the fact for sure.

>Japanese actions in Nanking and post-surrender Hong Kong, however, were prosecuted because they were open cities in which civilians and POWs were killed beyond any real military objective.
So if they were to come up with a legitimate military objective - say, the pacification of resistance forces - then it would have been okay, right?

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>>13268991
>>13268999
I leveled a bunch of stronger ones on 3-3 earlier this week (3/4 Myoukous, Tone kai2'd). I just need to get a few others like Mikawas, Maya and Suzukuma up to a decent level fairly quickly before going there with them.

But yeah I'll try that method and see how it goes, thanks. Otherwise it's pvp and as dead weight in 4-3.

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>>13269011
>This is BECAUSE if they tried that, they'd have to try themselves for Dresden and Tokyo (not to mention Hiroshima and Nagasaki).
Again, these rules were in place well before even the first world war. The US' interpretation may have defined the exact boundaries of the law, but that is no different from the interpretation of laws by national courts in any nation in the world. The important thing is that those laws and their principles were imposed long before the war crimes themselves occurred.

>If Japan exterminated the entire population of San Francisco, say, a biological weapon (note that Japan had not ratified the biological convention protocol at the time) on the grounds that California was engaged in "activate resistance" they would have to answer it after the fact for sure.
That would be because chemical and biological weapons were explicitly banned under the Geneva Protocol of 1925, not because they violated any principle of proportionality. They would not have had to answer for the bombing of San Francisco under a conventional air campaign.

>So if they were to come up with a legitimate military objective - say, the pacification of resistance forces - then it would have been okay, right?
Incorrect, in part because many of these massacres (the St. STephen's college massacre) were executed on wounded POWs and Civilian doctors, and also because proportionality means exactly that--that civilian casualties are not in gross excess of the perceived military gain.

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>>13269031
Best to make sure the un-Kai'd CAs also have max firepower and armour as well. Max torp would also be nice to have.

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>>13269041
>>13269011
>(note that Japan had not ratified the biological convention protocol at the time)
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Protocol#State_parties
> Japan 17 June 1925

[Anonymous No.]

Should you remodel the AVs into CVLs the second you can at 15, or keep them as AVs until 35/50?

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>>13268999
>sortie Akagi
>immediately taiha
Back to the bench.

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>>13269056
Keep them as AVs.

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>>13269058
You did make sure to max the CVs' armour, too, right? Firepower is optional but still good to have.

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>>13269041
>The important thing is that those laws and their principles were imposed long before the war crimes themselves occurred.
And where was it explicitly stated in the Geneva Conventions that the "conspiracy to wage aggressive war" was a war crime in and of itself? Those composed the bulk of the charges, after all.

>That would be because chemical and biological weapons were explicitly banned under the Geneva Protocol of 1925, not because they violated any principle of proportionality.
Something Japan had not ratified and was not bound by.

>Incorrect, in part because many of these massacres (the St. STephen's college massacre) were executed on wounded POWs and Civilian doctors,
A war crime, to be sure, since there was no obvious military advantage to be gained there - what was the casualty rate there, a few hundred? What if we had gone through nuking Kyoto like we planned - just how much military advantage would we need to justify the death by incineration of a million civilians?

>also because proportionality means exactly that--that civilian casualties are not in gross excess of the perceived military gain.
So at the point where an isolated garrison finds that feeding an additional mouth constitutes a massive military liability, it's fine to execute the prisoners for military gain, right?

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>>13269051
"Signed but not ratified" has legal force of exactly nothing.

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>>13268966
If rape and murder were wide spreed, especially on the scale thousand dead they'd obviously be recorded in such manuals, they had a lot of time since Sino-Jap war to see the savagery of japs and all those alleged "slaughters". It's either severe intelligence services blunder or actual truth, you can pick your own poison to sleep happily at night.

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>>13269078
>And where was it explicitly stated in the Geneva Conventions that the "conspiracy to wage aggressive war" was a war crime in and of itself?
That would probably involve an attack on American soil without the declaration of war, which violates the Hague convention and the customary laws of war that had existed since Westphalia.

>>13269078
>>13269083
>Something Japan had not ratified and was not bound by.
>http://ask.un.org/faq/14594
>Where the signature is subject to ratification, acceptance or approval, the signature does not establish the consent to be bound...It also creates an obligation to refrain, in good faith, from acts that would defeat the object and the purpose of the treaty. [Arts.10 and 18, Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969]

>A war crime, to be sure, since there was no obvious military advantage to be gained there - what was the casualty rate there, a few hundred?
The St. Stephen's College massacre was a single incident among many. Even among the most conservative Japanese historians 30,000 Chinese civilians died at Nanking.

>What if we had gone through nuking Kyoto like we planned - just how much military advantage would we need to justify the death by incineration of a million civilians?
Assuming the same result as Nagasaki and Hiroshima, compelling the surrender of the Empire of Japan and saving the lives of millions more American and Japanese servicemen (along as millions of Japanese civilians who would have been slowly strangled by the allied blockade) is probably the ultimate military advantage.

>So at the point where an isolated garrison finds that feeding an additional mouth constitutes a massive military liability, it's fine to execute the prisoners for military gain, right?
These were neither isolated garrisons, nor a garrison under supply constraints given Japanese control of the surrounding area. Moreover, treatment of prisoners is not under proportionality, but under the Geneva and Hague conventions.

[Anonymous No.]

People should understand that there are no rules in war. It is the same principle as pedophilia. Since it is too much trouble knowing who is dangerous, just punish the lot that could potentially be dangerous. Greater good and all.

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>>13269106
>If rape and murder were wide spreed, especially on the scale thousand dead they'd obviously be recorded in such manuals, they had a lot of time since Sino-Jap war to see the savagery of japs and all those alleged "slaughters".
Yeah, because the United States had journalists and intelligence specialists on the ground in occupied Japanese territory to take notes on Japanese treatment of prisoners and civilians.

>It's either severe intelligence services blunder
Would you expect the IJA General Staff Office to know what goes on in American internment camps? No? I wonder why? Maybe because they're deep inside enemy territory?

Tojo and Togo both wrote in their memoirs that they were not aware of the the extent of war crimes perpetrated against civilians because it wasn't even worth reporting to your immediate commanding officer, let alone up the change command.

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>>13269129
>That would probably involve an attack on American soil without the declaration of war, which violates the Hague convention and the customary laws of war that had existed since Westphalia.
Both sides acknowledge that this was caused by an error of transmission.

>Even among the most conservative Japanese historians 30,000 Chinese civilians died at Nanking.
>Moreover, treatment of prisoners is not under proportionality, but under the Geneva and Hague conventions.
I agree that it was illegal - what I'm wondering is why I should care more than about civilians who were firebombed to death elsewhere.

Loosely if you follow the chain of international law far back enough there's supposed to be a moral justification in there somewhere. Without it, law is just what a bunch of people guns agreed on and there's no reason anyone should follow it except fear of punishment.

>Assuming the same result as Nagasaki and Hiroshima, compelling the surrender of the Empire of Japan and saving the lives of millions more American and Japanese servicemen (along as millions of Japanese civilians who would have been slowly strangled by the allied blockade)
You speak about the invasion or starvation of Japan like it something that was inevitability ordained and had to be planned around as an immutable fact, rather than a decision that was deliberately made at Yalta.

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>>13269144
That's some ignorant idealism you've got there. Do you learn your ethics from anime?

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>>13269144
>People should understand that there are no rules in war.
This.

"In war, truth is the first casualty." — Aeschylus

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>>13269178
>That's some ignorant idealism you've got there.
Declaring that the only thing that actually matters is force is about as non-idealistic as it gets.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit I did not know Shinzo Abe has his own sekrit shitposting squad. How did he pay to distribute jap propaganda? I thought only Chicom shills do these

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>>13269166
>Both sides acknowledge that this was caused by an error of transmission.
An "Error" exonerates the breaching of international convention no more than "error" exonerates manslaughter. At best it lessens the crime.

>what I'm wondering is why I should care more than about civilians who were firebombed to death elsewhere.
Because it was done with little military benefit, often against unresisting civilians by individual soldiers. Firebombing achieved significant benefit in preventing the movement of the Wehrmacht between fronts or in the production of military materiel in Japan, something that was not the case in an Open city such as Nanking or a city with little manufacturing potential to begin with such as Hong Kong.

>Loosely if you follow the chain of international law far back enough there's supposed to be a moral justification in there somewhere. Without it, law is just what a bunch of people guns agreed on and there's no reason anyone should follow it except fear of punishment.
The philosophy of law is irrelevant to its function and violation.

>You speak about the invasion or starvation of Japan like it something that was inevitability ordained and had to be planned around as an immutable fact, rather than a decision that was deliberately made at Yalta.
The military objective of the allies was the total and unconditional surrender of the Empire of Japan. If you are suggesting another option to compel unconditional surrender between nuclear bombing, blockade or the amphibious invasion by the allied forces, I would love to hear it.

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>>13269195
Thanks to a recent collaboration between Shinzo Abe and Kantai Collection, I get rare equipment delivered to me every month in exchange for posting Japanese propaganda. I should be getting my fifth Shinden Kai with the March ranking rewards.

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>>13269193
>>13269144
Tell that to the German POWs in the Eastern Front (where "no rules" existed) compared to the Western Front (where both sides were signatories to these nonexistent rules)

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>>13269212

Russians being uncivilized savages is a different problem.

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>>13269210
Can you sign me up?
I'll take on an extra role if it guarantees me some ships as well.

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>>13269210
Better than what chinks pay. Where do I sign up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268937
Try 4000/5170/7000/2540/20 next
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/biikame/blomaga/ar485481
Yamato is the only I haven't gotten yet, so you can be my guinea pig

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269219
I'd be savage too if I was a serf in all but name.

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>>13269202
>An "Error" exonerates the breaching of international convention no more than "error" exonerates manslaughter. At best it lessens the crime.
But they were indicted for the crime of "conspiracy to wage aggressive war" against China, the US, Britain, the Netherlands, France, and the USSR. The late transmission is just a footnote in the overall charge.

>Because it was done with little military benefit, often against unresisting civilians by individual soldiers.
So murdering civilians is only wrong when it's gratuitous, right? After all, one imagines that children are unable to put up "resistance" against firebombs. If Japan had simply killed literally everyone in Hong Kong with fire, that would have been okay, right?

>The philosophy of law is irrelevant to its function and violation.
Okay - so why should anybody care that Japan violated international military law? We can just say that all the parties committed horrific human rights violations and Japan just got caught on technicalities.

>The military objective of the allies was the total and unconditional surrender of the Empire of Japan.
A deliberate choice. If the Japanese were to make the colonization of China their military objective and tried to use to justify the forced migration of say, five hundred million Chinese people by saying "otherwise we'd have to kill them all" it doesn't mean that they saved the lives of said Chinese people.

[Anonymous No.]

>Sendai Jintsuu Fubuki Yukikaze Shimakaze Ayanami Shigure Poi
I spent past few days leveling all these guys at 1-5 and I'm working on murakumo right now.
Are there any other ones I should be levelling before I hit 80?

[Anonymous No.]

Is this /pol/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269251

No, this is /poi/

[Anonymous No.]

What happened to talking about cute boats...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269220
>>13269221
Sorry, but there's a point system involved and if too many people sign up I won't be able to rank within the top five hundred propagandists of the month anymore.

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>>13269210
I want in, too.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish I could be a cute little DD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269247
Torpedo Dykes if you haven't already.
If you want you could level the other DDs with Kai Nis as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269281
You have to become an actual warship before you can be reincarnated as a fleet girl.

I'm sure you can do it you try!

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>>13269261
>boats

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>>13269264
>implying Abe cares about ranking so long as he gets to shill his propaganda to as many people as possible.

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>>13269244
>But they were indicted for the crime of "conspiracy to wage aggressive war" against:
The Kwantung Army literally made up and false flagged the Sino-Japanese War, if that isn't a deliberate conspiracy I don't know what is.
-Japan made an unlawful intrusion upon Vichy Indochina without declaring war.
-USSR - see Khalkhin Gol, though neither side had quite declared war in that case.
-Netherlands had been treated as a belligerent before it had even had the opportunity to declare war on the 8th of December
> On 4 December, three days after having decided on a policy of war against America, Britain and the Netherlands, the Japanese government decided instead to "treat the Netherlands as a quasi enemy until actual hostilities ... occur."[19][20]

>If Japan had simply killed literally everyone in Hong Kong with fire, that would have been okay, right?
If it was still resisting, yes. The Germans had tried to do this with London and Warsaw. If it had surrendered, it would be a war crime.

>Okay - so why should anybody care that Japan violated international military law?
Because laws agreed upon by nations governing conduct between nations were broken. Why the law is followed is irrelevant. The effects of its violation on international conduct is relevant.
>Japan just got caught on technicalities.
30,000 civilians in a surrendered city is not a "technicality" by any definition of the word.

>If the Japanese were to make the colonization of China their military objective and tried to use to justify the forced migration of say, five hundred million Chinese people by saying "otherwise we'd have to kill them all" it doesn't mean that they saved the lives of said Chinese people.
Irrelevant, because you keep bringing in other war crimes to try to challenge proportionality. Japan would be guilty of forced migration of a civilian population, even if it were not judged guilty of disproportionate warfare against a civilian population in your hypothetical situation.

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>>13269291
He wants as much competition as possible, but I don't. Right now I'm only able to clear top 500 every month because English propaganda scores double points.

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>>13269296
>if that isn't a deliberate conspiracy I don't know what is.
Of course it was conspiracy. Why was it illegal? People conspire to do all sorts of things without indicted in war crimes tribunals.

>-Japan made an unlawful intrusion upon Vichy Indochina without declaring war.
Sure.

>Netherlands had been treated as a belligerent before it had even had the opportunity to declare war on the 8th of December
Not illegal as long as no shots were fired prior to the declaration of war. Putting a big "ENEMY" label on a map does not constitute a war crime.

>30,000 civilians in a surrendered city is not a "technicality" by any definition of the word.
Caring about them more than civilians elsewhere is precisely because of this technicality.

>Japan would be guilty of forced migration of a civilian population, even if it were not judged guilty of disproportionate warfare against a civilian population in your hypothetical situation.
Would you say that they would be correct in saying that they had "saved the lives of hundreds of millions of Chinese people?"

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>>13269296
>The effects of its violation on international conduct is relevant.
Relevant to what? And even if they guide people's conduct, why should I care? At some point I'm presumably supposed to include that the Japanese did a bad wrong thing.

[Anonymous No.]

Please accept my adorable propaganda

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth keeping Mutsuki class, besides Mutsuki and Mochizuki, just because of their low consumption? I have a few Yuugumo and Kagerou class that I like more and the consumption difference is not that large.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269320
The entirety of Kantai Collection is just one big propaganda operation

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>>13269326
Only if you're a faggot like me. Keep a couple expedition Maruyus too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269326

Somebody has to go on those expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269326
You need some mutsukis for quests.

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>>13269308
>Of course it was conspiracy. Why was it illegal?
>Not illegal as long as no shots were fired prior to the declaration of war. Putting a big "ENEMY" label on a map does not constitute a war crime.
The Treaty of Versailles put out the precedent of a War of Aggression as a War Crime.
>Naming Germany an 'aggressor' introduced the concept into positive international law.[5]

>Would you say that they would be correct in saying that they had "saved the lives of hundreds of millions of Chinese people?"
Given Japanese conduct overall in the war, I suspect millions of Chinese people would have died in the ensuing action anyway.

>>13269315
>Relevant to what? And even if they guide people's conduct, why should I care?
Relevant to why the law was instituted, not why it is followed--to protect both civilians and soldiers involved in war wherever possible. In undermining practices agrees on, Japan undermines the credibility of international agreements instituted to protect the lives of each nation's countrymen, and thus increases the possibility that the protections afforded to POWs and civilians will be ignored in the future.

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>>13269258

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>>13269326
Nothing wrong with using others if you don't like them, just don't forget that little difference adds up over time.

[Anonymous No.]

Gonna try to clear 3-4 over the weekend. Also My first time to try to do 3-5, in trying to amass blueprints.

Is there anything I need to know? I'm nervous. I have a lot of things on mind namely farming Maruyus and KTKMs as well as somehow trying to craft Taihou before the event.

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>>13269348
>The Treaty of Versailles put out the precedent of a War of Aggression as a War Crime.
That clause was used to justify bilateral reparations. Nowhere was it said that Germany engaged in any war crimes.

>Given Japanese conduct overall in the war, I suspect millions of Chinese people would have died in the ensuing action anyway.
You didn't answer my question, though.

>>13269348
>Relevant to why the law was instituted
International law serves the needs of those who interpret it. Why was it only after the West had conquered the world that "conquering" (aka aggressive war) became illegal? It's like declaring that property rights are 100% inviolable right after I've finished robbing you blind, so I can keep it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269360
You use 4BB2CV for 3-4.
Basically throw your strongest ships at the map until wall of four Rus lets you through and you get blessing of fairies who direct you to boss.
It needs one win to clear the map. You might do it in your first run but it could also take a dozen or two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269360
What do you get when you farm KTKMs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269371
Quintiple torpedo launchers. Use your brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269371
Quints.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269329
>that image
cute, Junyo always puts a smile on my face

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269377
>>13269380
So you gotta level her up to 50? That seems like a lot of work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269381
http://bato.to/read/_/262425/kantai-collection-kancolle-kumo-nabiku-doujinshi_v1_by_4chan

Knock yourself out. LETRA's other stuff is also pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269326
Well, you will need DD for Expeditions where you can't use SS...

Also, having a full set of Mutsukis is satisfying. You should try it for yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269369
>That clause was used to justify bilateral reparations. Nowhere was it said that Germany engaged in any war crimes.
Reparations are imposed in most treaties due to perceived injustices.

>You didn't answer my question, though.
Because it is an irrelevant situation. The colonization of an area by a civilian population is not a military objective to begin with, so attempting to justify the action via military law is irrelevant.

>International law serves the needs of those who interpret it.
International Law moderates the actions of all parties in a conflict by all parties, ideally such that each party would be justified no matter who it falls on to interpret it. This is why Germany acted in a far more restrained manner towards POWs of the West, why the United States treated its Japanese prisoners and under Geneva Convention protocol.

>Why was it only after the West had conquered the world that "conquering" (aka aggressive war) became illegal?
You are committing the error of ex post facto war, imposing an interpretation of a law that was not present to interpret. Are you going to judge the Japanese as barbaric based on modern law for their actions in the feudal period? I do not think that ex post facto application of "Crimes against humanity" are justified either, but that is not the topic at hand.
>It's like declaring that property rights are 100% inviolable right after I've finished robbing you blind, so I can keep it.
The difference is that the property rights (the Geneva Convention, the Treaty of Versailles, the Hague Conventions) were in place before Japan tried to rob anybody blind (aggressive war).

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269392
Thanks anon, I'll take a look while my girls repair

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269413
>ex post facto war
ex post facto law.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269370
I remember my first run through 3-4.
I slaughtered the first nodes, then my ships dodged almost everything on the 4 BB node, I arrived at the boss node with only a few scratches... and then I got red tea and C-ranked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269413
>Reparations are imposed in most treaties due to perceived injustices.
Reparations are how the winner gets stuff from the loser. You may notice that they don't tend to flow the other way.

>Because it is an irrelevant situation.
So what's your personal, non-legally-binding assessment on labeling the Japanese saviors in my hypothetical situation? Humor me for a bit.

>The colonization of an area by a civilian population is not a military objective to begin with
Sounds arbitrary. How is the establishment of a colony not a military objective? Or, if we want to be cheeky bastards, "the creation of an area free from potential guerrilla action."

>International Law moderates the actions of all parties in a conflict by all parties, ideally such that each party would be justified no matter who it falls on to interpret it.
So should Japan only be obligated to comply those treaties which it has signed and ratified (which would permit them to use biological weapons)?

>The difference is that the property rights (the Geneva Convention, the Treaty of Versailles, the Hague Conventions) were in place
They did not criminalize aggressive war. They merely outlined the conduct of war.

>The difference is that the property rights (the Geneva Convention, the Treaty of Versailles, the Hague Conventions) were in place before Japan tried to rob anybody blind (aggressive war).
It's really convenient that these treaties went up inbetween the West conquering Asia and Japan conquering Asia.

And they didn't outlaw aggressive war anyway; they merely outlined the conduct of how wars should take place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269464
>They did not criminalize aggressive war. They merely outlined the conduct of war.
>And they didn't outlaw aggressive war anyway; they merely outlined the conduct of how wars should take place.
Incorrect. Reparations carry the implication that the pretext is an injustice by which some measure of restitution can be taken, and thus it is implicitly criminal or a violation of customary conventions.
>Reparations are how the winner gets stuff from the loser.
True but irrelevant. .

>Sounds arbitrary.
It can sound like whatever you like, the movement of a civilian population with no stated effect on an opposing force clearly is not military.
>Or, if we want to be cheeky bastards, "the creation of an area free from potential guerrilla action."
Disproportional, especially given that guerillas can be removed with conventional military means without the forcible relocation of a civilian population, whereas in the case of the United States, both alternatives (land invasion, starvation) would have cost more than the action taken.

>So should Japan only be obligated to comply those treaties which it has signed and ratified (which would permit them to use biological weapons)?
It does not permit them to use biological weapons against fellow signatories. And yes, it should be obligated to comply to those treaties which it has signed (By moral obligation) or ratification (By legal and moral obligation)

>It's really convenient that these treaties went up inbetween the West conquering Asia and Japan conquering Asia.
Irrelevant. If Japan was dissatisfied with the decision it had no obligation to sign or ratify them.

[Anonymous No.]

What equipment do you put on Maya kai ni?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269500
12cm HA+FD / 20cm / AA radar / Seaplane

[Anonymous No.]

Is it me or do Heavy Cruisers miss their targets more often than any other type of ship? It's either that or mediocre damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269513
It's you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269488
>True but irrelevant.
It's the implications that are irrelevant. You can dress up the payments in whatever fancy words you want. I seem to recall the Qing Dynasty reparating Japan enough wealth to build all twelve Mutsuki-class destroyers out of pure silver without any of the major powers lodging an objection about it.

>It can sound like whatever you like, the movement of a civilian population with no stated effect
I just stated one, so we're good now, right?

>especially given that guerillas can be removed with conventional military means
The Japanese were literally incapable of suppressing partisans with conventional military measures.

>And yes, it should be obligated to comply to those treaties which it has signed (By moral obligation)
I thought we just said those were irrelevant.

>Irrelevant. If Japan was dissatisfied with the decision it had no obligation to sign or ratify them.
No document was signed or ratified stating that aggressive war was illegal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269513
I'm pretty sure they're actually the most accurate class. Definitely in yasen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269506
No sanshiki?
>seaplane
Artillery spotting won't work since the 12.7cm is secondary right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269500
If I don't need AA CI then I go for the usual 2 red, 1 radar and 1 seaplane. When I want the AA CI I put 2 8cm HA, 1 Maya 25mm and AA radar. I haven't crafted her gun from Akashi's Arsenal, so I don't run mixed setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269540
It becomes a cut in instead of a DA. In my opinion, that setup is not that good since it tries to accomplish everything while being inferior to a more specialized setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269530
Something must be wrong with my loadout, or RNG is playing with me, I always use 20.3cmx2 + seaplane + Oxygen torp

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269513
Hell no, I have worse luck with CLs and DDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269554
>Oxygen torp
For what purpose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269513
CA are great. Chikuma cleared 4-4 for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269554
replace torp with either radar or just another main gun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269554
>torpedo
Radar is better and maybe 1, 15.5 red gun for accuracy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269554
>Torp
Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269525
>It's the implications that are irrelevant.
Any individual with a basic grasp of law would tell you otherwise. Constitutional debate in the United States is literally all about those implications.
>I seem to recall the Qing Dynasty reparating Japan enough wealth to build all twelve Mutsuki-class destroyers out of pure silver without any of the major powers lodging an objection about it.
If this was during the Second Sino-Japanese war, this was due to Chinese action against the Japanese legation and its guards, which certainly merited reparations in some form or another.

>The Japanese were literally incapable of suppressing partisans with conventional military measures.
Irrelevant, the Germans were literally incapable of suppressing Yugoslavian partisans, but that does not justify the Kragujevac massacre.

>I thought we just said those were irrelevant.
Nonsense, I already stated earlier that "the effects of its violation on international conduct is relevant." Whether the obligation is moral or legal is irrelevant, but its violation and results remain relevant.

>No document was signed or ratified stating that aggressive war was illegal.
Implied by article 231 of the Treaty of Versailles, signed and ratified by the Nation of Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269402
They're all so cute.

[Anonymous No.]

By using torp or third gun you gimp your CA beyond any hope (also applies to DD or CL) unless the ship has high luck.

>>13269579
>and maybe 1, 15.5 red gun for accuracy
No.
CA get bonus to accuracy in yasen from 20.3

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269583
>second sino-japanese war
first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269567
>>13269581

After shelling phase and yansen, no cut in but it's always guaranteed kill (if hit) on my end.

>>13269568
I've been neglecting my CA's since the beginning since I haven't really had the need for them, I've moved up from Destroyers, CL's, BB's and subs so I was able to clean maps without them, now I decided I should focus on them for a change, Chikuma, Atago and Suzuya.

>>13269574
>>13269579
Okay I'll run some testing with the radars since 3 guns are guaranteed to fuck me up the ass on the accuracy department, thanks for the tip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269609
>After shelling phase and yasen, no cut in but it's always guaranteed kill (if hit) on my end.
Are you mentally handicapped?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269609
>since 3 guns are guaranteed to fuck me up the ass on the accuracy department
No, they won't. Three guns are only bad because you can't double attack in yasen.

Seriously, read the fucking wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269583
>If this was during the Second Sino-Japanese war, this was due to Chinese action against the Japanese legation and its guards, which certainly merited reparations in some form or another.
Treaty of Shimonoseki at the end of the first Sino-Japanese War. The Qing Dynasty

>Irrelevant, the Germans were literally incapable of suppressing Yugoslavian partisans
Why should the suppression of partisans through gunfire be illegal when the suppression of munitions production through napalm is not? Both look like collective punishment to me.

>Whether the obligation is moral or legal is irrelevant, but its violation and results remain relevant.
To what?

>mplied by article 231 of the Treaty of Versailles, signed and ratified by the Nation of Japan.
Literally a punishment clause put in for the sole purpose of justifying the plunder of Germany's industry after the war, and EVEN if taken at face value, is only capable of justifying reparations. Nowhere is it said that the war itself was a violation of international law.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269591
>CA get bonus to accuracy in yasen from 20.3
Really? I learned something on /jp/ for once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269583
>If this was during the Second Sino-Japanese war, this was due to Chinese action against the Japanese legation and its guards, which certainly merited reparations in some form or another.
Treaty of Shimonoseki at the end of the First Sino-Japanese War. The Qing Dynasty had not existed for many years by the time the second rolled around.

>Irrelevant, the Germans were literally incapable of suppressing Yugoslavian partisans
Why should the suppression of partisans through indiscriminate gunfire be illegal when the suppression of munitions production through indiscriminate napalm is not? Both look like collective punishment to me.

>Whether the obligation is moral or legal is irrelevant, but its violation and results remain relevant.
To what?

>mplied by article 231 of the Treaty of Versailles, signed and ratified by the Nation of Japan.
Literally a punishment clause put in for the sole purpose of justifying the plunder of Germany's industry after the war, and EVEN if taken at face value, is only capable of justifying reparations. Nowhere is it said that the war itself was a violation of international law.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269619
Speaking from experience, take it easy faggot.

>>13269620
I have been told before on this very board to avoid using more than 2 guns due to poor accuracy. I would appreciate if you could link me to the part where the wiki refutes such statement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269643
>I have been told before on this very board to avoid using more than 2 guns due to poor accuracy.
If you learned how to read in school you would know this applied to battleships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269643
>avoid using more than 2 guns due to poor accuracy
I think that only applies to those big guns for BBs due to weight limit or something. I'm not sure though. I heard the best setup is 2 main + plane + radar for spotting during day and double during night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269643
Where do you retards come from

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269628
>Treaty of Shimonoseki at the end of the first Sino-Japanese War. The Qing Dynasty
Exactly, these reparations came after the deaths of the Japanese legation in Korea during a Chinese intervention.
>The Qing Dynasty had not existed for many years by the time the second rolled around.
My mistake, I always think the 1592 war was the first one.

>Why should the suppression of partisans through gunfire be illegal
>A German report stated that: "The executions in Kragujevac occurred although there had been no attacks on members of the Wehrmacht in this city, for the reason that not enough hostages could be found elsewhere."[4][6][7]
There were clearly factories, rail depots and troops in Hiroshima, Tokyo, and Dresden. There was literally no reason to think that the citizens of Kragujevac were partisans or that it had any military value.

>To what?
To Japan's status as a war criminal. Gandhi broke unjust laws, but that does not change the fact that he committed crimes and is a criminal. Similarly, WHY Japan needs to obey the law or the circumstances of its establishment are irrelevant to the fact that Japan has circumvented international law and is thus a war criminal.

>Literally a punishment clause put in for the sole purpose of justifying the plunder of Germany's industry after the war
Irrelevant. Germany agreed on the wording.
>and EVEN if taken at face value, is only capable of justifying reparations
Again, reparations imply that it is a crime.
>Nowhere is it said that the war itself was a violation of international law.
That is correct. The Treaty of Versailles is the first case iin which the signatories agree that "aggressive war" is a crime that demands reparation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269661
>>13269655
>>13269643
>>13269619
pls no bully

[Anonymous No.]

Lucky reppuu anon here, am I doing it right

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269683
No. Put it on the first slot so it launches first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269683
>>13269683
Depends on the map, but I'd argue No for any map after 2-1 unless you're PvPing someone with a CAV. That won't get you AS in 2-2 if Wo shows up at the boss node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269683
Get the Reppuu in the biggest slot.

[Anonymous No.]

That has to be the easiest map in the past 2 worlds. First try clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269683
Doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269663
>Exactly, these reparations came after the deaths of the Japanese legation in Korea during a Chinese intervention.
This is never made out to be the justification. The payments are just there. And the legation was exceeding its legitimate diplomatic duties anyway.

>There was literally no reason to think that the citizens of Kragujevac were partisans or that it had any military value.
I'm not familiar with the details myself; I see that there was no partisan activity near athe city at the time.

Do we agree then, if it were found that someone unknown in Kragujevac were aiding partisans (and I genuinely doubt that there were none), it would have been justifiable to start shooting people?

>Japan has circumvented international law and is thus a war criminal.
So did America, with regards to the mutilation of war dead. If all we're looking for is a binary category all parties are guilty.

>Irrelevant. Germany agreed on the wording.
Even more irrelevant.

>Again, reparations imply that it is a crime.
Reparations may also be paid for accidental damage without admission of criminal liability.

>The Treaty of Versailles is the first case iin which the signatories agree that "aggressive war" is a crime that demands reparation.
I don't see any establishment of criminal liability., just a requirement to cough up damages. In conventional law, payments of damages do not automatically indicate criminal liability.

[Anonymous No.]

How important is it to modernize firepower in carriers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269661
>>13269655
Take your autism pills please, not my fault some of you spergs blatantly spread misinformation.

>>13269660
I must go to the wiki and get well informed about this subject.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269712
Very. And how long have you been playing that you're asking that? Less than a week?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn PvP has been great lately, so many 1-2 high level ship fleets. Thank you TTKs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269693
You think so? Now S rank it two more times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269719
If you act retarded, be prepared to get called out for it. If you don't like it, fuck off to wikia/himeuta.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it time to put a FAQ and the "stop asking dumb questions" clause back in the OP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269739
I think so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269703
>This is never made out to be the justification.
>Reparations may also be paid for accidental damage without admission of criminal liability
>I don't see any establishment of criminal liability
It literally says it right there:
>"as a consequence of the war imposed upon them by the aggression of Germany and her allies"
Reparation is the direct cause and reason damages can be taken.

>"And the legation was exceeding its legitimate diplomatic duties anyway."
[citation needed]

>Do we agree then, if it were found that someone unknown in Kragujevac were aiding partisans (and I genuinely doubt that there were none), it would have been justifiable to start shooting people?
No, because
>Article 8(2)(b)(iv) criminalizes:
Intentionally launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects or widespread, long-term and severe damage to the natural environment which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated;
Mowing down a village for a partisan that MIGHT be from there is not a concrete military advantage. Bombing a factory or rail yard that is definitely there IS a cnocrete military advantage.

>So did America, with regards to the mutilation of war dead. If all we're looking for is a binary category all parties are guilty
But we are not looking at it on a binary scale. Japan's violations are of a far larger scale.

>In conventional law, payments of damages do not automatically indicate criminal liability.
Incorrect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damages))
>Compensatory damages are paid to compensate the claimant for loss, injury, or harm suffered as a result of (see requirement of causation) another's breach of duty. (e.g., in a negligence claim under tort law). Expectation damages are used in contract law.[2]
The violation of law is implicit in the awarding of damages.

[Anonymous No.]

Calling it now, to commemorate the second anniversary the last map in hard of spring event 2015 will reward a Shinden kai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269760
Don't get your hopes up, Shinden Kai is gone forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269760
More like Zero 21 Kai with 9 AA and 3 acc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269389
Better than farming screws to upgrade to quints.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269766
If it was gone forever it wouldn't have a library entry, only Iona and company are gone forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269760
You wish.

[Anonymous No.]

Can 3 Ducky guns trigger AACI or is an air radar utterly needed?

[Anonymous No.]

So do you guys also spend half your time clicking through your ships trying to remember which one you mounted a certain equipment on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269796
That's what KCV's equipment list is for

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269796
No, I use KCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269796
n-no

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269796
No, I remember who has the important stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269745
>[citation needed]
"The Enlightenment Party of the Joseon orchestrated the Gapsin Coup after the Sino–French War with the promise of advice and support of Takezoe Shinichiro (hangul: 다케조에 신이치로, hanja: 竹添), the Japanese minister to Korea."

>Mowing down a village for a partisan that MIGHT be from there is not a concrete military advantage. Bombing a factory or rail yard that is definitely there IS a concrete military advantage.
So if it were firmly established that there were, say, a partisan cell in a city, it would be legitimate to kill everyone in it? (Let's say with a bomb and not Einsatzgruppen.)

>But we are not looking at it on a binary scale. Japan's violations are of a far larger scale.
On a "scale violation" I'd say that the violation of an unstated, "implied" principle that nobody bothered to complain about until it was time to string up people after the war is pretty low.

In 1937 there was no reason to believe that aggressive war secretly, without anyone's knowledge, made illegal 20 years prior except by the torturous stretching of an implication in a joke of a treaty that nobody had bothered to codify anywhere in the interim period.

>Compensatory damages are paid to compensate the claimant for loss, injury, or harm suffered as a result of (see requirement of causation) another's breach of duty. (e.g., in a negligence claim under tort law) . . . The violation of law is implicit in the awarding of damages.
"A tort, in common law jurisdictions, is a civil wrong." Criminal liability is not established.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269794
On Ducky even two simple HA guns are enough. Other ships need the radar and/or AAFD.

[Anonymous No.]

Who is the best all-purpose destroyer? Yuudachi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13268631
>Do you deny war crimes too? Just curious~
a single bait unleashes four hours of autism

what terrifying individuals

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269736
>If you act retarded, be prepared to get called out for it. If you don't like it, fuck off to wikia/himeuta.
The irony here is you're the one sperging out over what started as a simple result of misinformation.
You could have been helpful by simply pasting the appropriate wiki link ITT, but instead you choose to be a stick-up-the-ass elitist faggot and spill your 'assburgers' over your god damn keyboard.
Also
>gb2himeuta retort
Eat a dick, you're no better than /v/, crying reddit at every post that they don't like, but no, I don't go there if it makes you sleep at night. I have no more say on this matter, let the thread carry its course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269824
All purpose? Yukikaze > Hatsushimo > Shigure > Ayanami > rest.
Overall best? Yukikaze and Yuudachi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269835
>You could have been helpful
Spoonfeeding only encourages people to be lazy and dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269835
If you read the threads (lurk more) you wouldn't have to ask stupid questions. Go away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269835
>Spoonfeed me because I can't find it myself.
Kill yourself retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269835
lol butthurt

[Anonymous No.]

Who's the best kanmusu to fap to? I need something to do while the fleet recovers fatigue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269840
>>13269843
>>13269849
>>13269850
the four stages of jackassery in ascending order

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269811
>"The Enlightenment Party of the Joseon orchestrated the Gapsin Coup after the Sino–French War with the promise of advice and support of Takezoe Shinichiro (hangul: 다케조에 신이치로, hanja: 竹添), the Japanese minister to Korea."
Ah, I thought you were talking about Versailles' delegations. But regardless of the cause, Japanese legation officials were killed by Chinese troops without any due process, which is a violation of international law.

>So if it were firmly established that there were, say, a partisan cell in a city, it would be legitimate to kill everyone in it?
Depends. Bombing in the 1940s was inaccurate and dangerous, so a bombing campaign would be more justified than systematically mowing them down house to house.

>On a "scale violation" I'd say that the violation of an unstated, "implied" principle that nobody bothered to complain about until it was time to string up people after the war is pretty low.
Yes, but "Aggressive war" is not Japan's only crime, and it does not quite compare with inflicting disproportionate damage on civilian populations, mistreatment or murder of POWs on a massive scale.

>secretly, without anyone's knowledge
It was very clear, given that afterwards Japan was also signatory to the Kellogg-Briand pact outlining aggressive war.
>in a joke of a treaty
The Germans don't seem to have found it very funny
>that nobody had bothered to codify anywhere in the interim period.
Actually, even apart from Kellogg Briand, there's the Conventions for the Definition of Aggression in 1933. However, Japan was not a signatory of that particular treaty. Regardless, the idea of aggressive war as a crime well before, and it was for that reason that the Wehrmacht and Kwantung Army tried to fake casus belli in Poland and China to begin with.

>"A tort, in common law jurisdictions, is a civil wrong."
>A civil wrong or wrong is a cause of action under the law of the governing body.
Criminal liability is implicit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269857
Iku

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269857
Sparkle DDs, kuso.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269857

Iku or Hamakaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269858
stfu butthurt baby

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269858
Stay upset, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269865
>>13269867
But I want to fap after looking at Haruna's exposed armpit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269869
>>13269876
as we can see, upon ascending to stage four the level of obnoxious behavior cannot be lowered

it remains to be seen whether a fifth stage of jackassery ascension can be achieved

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269857
Kitakami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269857
Whatever the latest and greatest doujin is. Gotta keep the fap material fresh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269885
If you wanted it that badly you would have done it already, now go sparkle them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269840
I too agree with that statement to a certain degree myself, but being a god damn retard just because someone got their intel wrong doesn't make you right, and certainly doesn't make you any better.

>>13269843
If you read previous posts you'd realize the mistake brew within these threads.

>>13269869
>>13269876
The guy that replied to you imbeciles isn't even me, FYI. Doesn't make his statement any less true though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269885

pls don't fap to my waifu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269858
Don't you mean descending? Are you dumb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269892
The mistake brew in mind of one guy who can't read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269888
>>13269892
samefag is same

stop pwning yourself asspained babby

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269892
Nice damage control
Settle this by posting your medal faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269892
>just because someone got their intel wrong
Not just.

>Speaking from experience, take it easy faggot.
>Take your autism pills please, not my fault some of you spergs blatantly spread misinformation.
Such person doesn't deserve help and should immediately commit suicide instead of wasting oxygen, electricity and others' time.

[Anonymous No.]

Haruna > Kongou > Hiei > Kirishima

Hibiki > Akatsuki = Inazuma > Ikazuchi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269907
As if that proves anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269914
>Haruna > Kongou > Hiei > Kirishima
You and most of the playerbase. Literally the most generic taste in Kongou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269914
Why do people like the vodka girl so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269917

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269919

Perfection > Baka with Engrish > Baka > Baka with glasses

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269925
There's nothing perfect about having no character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269922
Why don't you?

She's an angel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269892
I have a feeling you're the same retard that kept saying that a gun cut in was what you should use on Yukikaze.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269914
Kirishima>Hiei>Kongou>Haruna

Bep>Kaminari>Akatsuki>Inazuma.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269900
>samefag posts seconds appart
Congrats shitposter-kun, you did it, you reeled me in this far!

>>13269896
>Some guy posts misinformation
>learn to read
No if anything should've learned not to take advice from anything posted within these threads.

>>13269912
So what? If you're gonna sperg out you have to be prepared to be put on your place. This solely happens because a selected few individuals haven't gotten a reality check in a long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269928

>no character

Haruna is daijoubu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269914
Kirishima > Kongou = Haruna > Hiei > shit > any DD

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269931
Nobody said that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269930
I like Inazuma more, but everyone from the DesDiv6 are adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269931
I don't have a beaver yet. Just accept that these threads are a mixed bag of inexperienced and experienced players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269934
>If you're gonna sperg out you have to be prepared to be put on your place.
If you understand the concept then why are you still posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269861
>But regardless of the cause, Japanese legation officials were killed by Chinese troops without any due process, which is a violation of international law.
A preliminary reading suggests that the legation was burned during the fighting.

>Depends. Bombing in the 1940s was inaccurate and dangerous, so a bombing campaign would be more justified than systematically mowing them down house to house.
So it would be of military advantage to a nation to deliberately develop inaccurate weapons as to maximize the list of legal targets?

>Yes, but "Aggressive war" is not Japan's only crime, and it does not quite compare with inflicting disproportionate damage on civilian populations, mistreatment or murder of POWs on a massive scale.
It's an important one because it determines whether Japan was entirely wrong from the outset or merely due to its execution.

In any case, I have no real complaints about Class B indictments at the IMTFE, nor Class C indictments other than "failure to prevent" war crimes. My complaint is that the decision of what constitutes "proportionate" and other grey-area crimes were determined by the allies: command responsibility, firebombing, biological weapons, and unrestricted submarine warfare. One can easily imagine a world in which the allies used precision bombing to Japanese area bombing, and the resulting carnage declared "disproportionate" because "they should have used precision bombs instead."

>It was very clear, given that afterwards Japan was also signatory to the Kellogg-Briand pact outlining aggressive war.
But according to you the Treaty of Versailles established the precedent. I agree that Japan clearly abrogated its responsibilities under KB but that was due to their deliberate accession to the treaty, not because "aggressive war" was inherently illegal under international law.

>The Germans don't seem to have found it very funny
It happens when you have your back to a wall. They got pretty salty about it afterwards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269924
>>13269917
>>13269907
the level of dickwaving here is just sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269934
>No if anything should've learned not to take advice from anything posted within these threads.
If you're unable to think for yourself, yes. Go to some other place where everyone will spoonfeed you.

>So what?
You're the one needing help. Behave. You're a newfag, you're supposed to lurk instead of throwing up a tantrum about mean words. This is how this place works. If you don't like the way it is, look somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269944
Spilling your assburgers isn't putting someone in their place though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269943
>a mixed bag of inexperienced and experienced players.
Experienced and inexperienced retards who like to pretend they are knowledgeable.
The smart ones learn to lurk more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269947
Were you even here during the event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269954
i have been here for literally every event, starting with yamato

thought i wasn't able to clear it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269861
> and it does not quite compare with inflicting disproportionate ... mistreatment or murder of POWs on a massive scale.
As late as October 1944, no more than 604 Japanese had been taken as prisoners of war by all of the Allied powers during the whole Pacific campaign[7]
Arnold Krammer, "Japanese Prisoners of War in America"

You're seriously deluded if you think Allies treated Japanese better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269957
Then you should've seen the dickwaving from people who got the epeen medal during it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269957
>[Proof needed]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269959
>As late as October 1944, no more than 604 Japanese had been taken as prisoners of war by all of the Allied powers during the whole Pacific campaign
Not all, but a substantial portion of this is due to Japanese policies against surrender. For example, 100% of Fusou's crew chose to die in the water rather than rescued by Americans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269970
Even if only 1 000 surrendered up to October 1944 point, that's still 39,6% of PoWs killed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13264684
DD: Fubuki 117, Shirayuki 39, Inazuma 54, Shiratsuyu 34
CL: Jintsuu 120, Tatsuta 58, Yuubari 97, Tenryuu 36
CA: Kako 32, Ashigara 84, Mogami 96
BB: Kongou 148, Ise 97, Kirishima 134
CVL: Chiyoda 120, Chitose 85, Houshou 84
CV: Akagi 138, Souryuu 132, Kaga 88, Hiryuu 143
SS: Iku 137, Goya 141, Imuya 136

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269945
>A preliminary reading suggests that the legation was burned during the fighting.
Which does not at all imply that the Japanese legation officials were taking part in the fighting nor explain the circumstances under which they were killed.
>So it would be of military advantage to a nation to deliberately develop inaccurate weapons as to maximize the list of legal targets?
Deliberately using inaccurate weapons without military justification when a more precise munition can achieve the same military goal seems disproportionate to me. While the US could be more accurate, this would have come at huge cost in American lives (hardly a military advantage) if American precision bombing was used as intended.

>It's an important one because it determines whether Japan was entirely wrong from the outset or merely due to its execution.
That it had, under versailles and (as you readily admitted) under Kellogg-briand.

> One can easily imagine a world in which the allies used precision bombing to Japanese area bombing, and the resulting carnage declared "disproportionate" because "they should have used precision bombs instead."
We both know that Japan was technologically incapable of making precision bombs to begin with.

>But according to you the Treaty of Versailles established the precedent.
I stand by that statement. I added Kellogg-Briand because you implied the concept of "aggressive war" as an international offense was a minor detail ignored by its signatories when a major treaty was instated within the decade making clear the implications of the treaty.

>>13269959
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_prisoners_of_war_in_World_War_II#Allied_prisoner_of_war_camps
>In an attempt to win better treatment for their POWs, the Allies made extensive efforts to notify the Japanese government of the good conditions in Allied POW camps.[57]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269964
i can prove to you that i'm on lingga server, which i believe filled up in august 2013 (but i'm not sure since i stopped following lottery announcements after i got in), would that be sufficient?

>>13269962
almost nobody cleared that event

at the time a lot of people didn't even attempt it because at the time half the players were so new they were still trying to open their fourth fleet

[Anonymous No.]

Soon, the ring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269949
>If you're unable to think for yourself, yes. Go to some other place where everyone will spoonfeed you.
What does the fact that people spread misinformation and the wiki is unorganized mess of information have anything to do with mine, or anyone else ability to think for themselves. Tell me, what is the point of these threads exactly if not to discuss the game? Jerking each other off over virtual medals as seen above? C'mon. I've been on /jp/ long enough to know how it works, but that doesn't mean I should tolerate and give a free pass to retards trying to act like pompous douches.

>You're a newfag,
no comment.
>you're supposed to lurk instead of throwing up a tantrum
But anon I wasn't the one that threw a tantrum in the first place :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269977
>Even if only 1 000 surrendered up to October 1944 point, that's still 39,6% of PoWs killed.
Did you literally just make up a number assuming 1000 surrendered and then imply the US killed them? Do remember that in Okinawa civilians blew themselves up with grenades and threw themselves off cliffs rather than surrender.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269986
>almost nobody cleared that event
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269986
>almost nobody cleared that event
I remember the vast majority of vets on /jp/ posting clears.
Only the newer players struggled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269986
No one gives a shit about new players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269996
>No one gives a shit about new players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269985
>Which does not at all imply that the Japanese legation officials were taking part in the fighting nor explain the circumstances under which they were killed.
Collateral happens, even to diplomats.

>Deliberately using inaccurate weapons without military justification when a more precise munition can achieve the same military goal seems disproportionate to me.
They will never achieve exactly the same military goal. It is 100% more effective to kill enemy civilians than not kill them. It simply happens to be illegal.

>I added Kellogg-Briand because you implied the concept of "aggressive war" as an international offense was a minor detail ignored by its signatories when a major treaty was instated within the decade making clear the implications of the treaty.
It was a separate treaty, not a clarification to the Treaty of Versailles.

The Treaty of Versailles and Article 231 itself was more of a way to beat up Germany like a pinata full of marks than anything else, a declaration designed to justify an indemnity and appease the French. The only moral precedent it set is that if you can get the enemy to say it was their fault you can plunder them for all its worth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269985
Actual quote in on page 48 in Krammer book. Go read it, it's a wonderful thing. IJA had 6 million personnel, you literally can't take only 604 prisoners during 3 years of fighting on such scale.
>>13269989
1 000 captured is much more than a fair number, actual number should be well in five digit range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270011
>Collateral happens, even to diplomats.
Most countries don't just handwave it with an "aww I know it was an accident".

>They will never achieve exactly the same military goal. It is 100% more effective to kill enemy civilians than not kill them. It simply happens to be illegal.
Destroying a tank factory and killing all the people who might work in it can have the same effect of disabling tank production. You can build a new factory or ship in new workers, but either way the end goal is achieved.

>The Treaty of Versailles and Article 231 itself was more of a way to beat up Germany like a pinata full of marks than anything else, a declaration designed to justify an indemnity and appease the French. The only moral precedent it set is that if you can get the enemy to say it was their fault you can plunder them for all its worth.
I disagree, but this is getting nowhere, so I will concede your point and say that Japan still violated the Kellogg-Briand pact proscribing aggressive war at any rate and so violated international law.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269990
>[citation needed]
visit the kancolle threads at the time

>>13269994
there were almost no veterams at the time, kancolle threads hadn't even been in /jp/ for a month when the event ended

>>13269996
when'd you join?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269996

>No one gives a shit about new players.

That's a bit rude tbh lad

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270031
Arpeggio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270031
>kancolle threads hadn't even been in /jp/ for a month when the event ended
What.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270031
>there were almost no veterams at the time, kancolle threads hadn't even been in /jp/ for a month when the event ended
We're talking about the Truk event you retard. You know, the one with the epeen medal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270020
>Actual quote in on page 48 in Krammer book.
You are LITERALLY making things up. "Japanese Prisoners of War in America" is not a book. It's a single academic paper, published for an academic journal, found right here:
>http://www.jstor.org/stable/3639455
There's no book. There's no page 48 either because the paper goes from pages 67-91. And if you had read the paper, you'd know that Kramer explains that the disparity in POWs is because:
>"the average Japanese soldier was molded to prefer death to surrender (p.68)"
>"9 The war was nearly over before significantly large numbers of Japanese soldiers, usually malnourished and disillusioned, surrendered to Commonwealth and American forces (70)."
You are literally full of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270044
my bad, i failed to follow the discussion; for some reason i thought >>13269962 was talking about dickwaving for people who managed to clear yamato out of the first event

in any case it was pretty bad during the event but that's only natural because people were high on success at the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270011
>You can build a new factory or ship in new workers, but either way the end goal is achieved.
Both is still better. In total war the entirety of a nation contributes to the war effort.

>Japan still violated the Kellogg-Briand pact proscribing aggressive war at any rate and so violated international law.
I guess I'll leave it at that also for now.

Thanks for wasting time together with me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270045
So you simply refuse to admit that Allied forces routinely slaughtered PoWs, okay. That's fine and all, I don't want to argue with someone this deluded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270045
>>13270020
This paper, by the way, explains in explicit detail exactly how Japanese POW camps complied with Geneva restrictions, from barracks
>"s fitted as a day-room and equipped with furniture, playing cards, a gramophone, and an assortment of Japaneselanguage books donated by the YMCA,"
How
>"Each enlisted POW received eighty cents a day to spend at the
camp canteen"
and how
>"The Japanese prisoners, no less than the Germans, Italians, and Koreans, received from the YMCA such items as their stationery, musical instruments, library books, sports equipment, phonograph records, hobby materials, handicraft tools, and religious items of all sorts."

>>13270053
You literally cited facts from a book that's actually a paper you didn't actually read that contradicts your point. How the fuck am I supposed to believe you when your first statement was a lie from the get-go?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270053
The majority of Japanese who were killed trying to surrender were killed in individual instances by angry soldiers; if you made it into the rear you were usually safe.

These events happened often enough to be "routine" but the scale of the killings don't compare in any way with the massacres of prisoners by the Japanese, which were often ordered through the chain of command.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270061
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadalcanal_Campaign
>1,000 captured
In one fucking operation Allies captured 1000 PoWs. Count in all the clay EoJ lost by that point and number of PoWs should've been well in five digits, but it's only 604. Where the fuck they all disappeared to? Huh? Once again, you're seriously deluded if you think that Allies treated Japanese any better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270046
>managed to clear yamato out of the first event
That was the second event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270095
From Kramer's 604 figure that you cite:
>"In fact, from the opening salvo of the Pacific campaign, through the Battles of the Java Sea, Coral Sea, Midway, Guadalcanal, Savo Island, Bismarck Sea, New Guinea, Kula Gulf, Bougainville, Tarawa, and Makin, a grand total of only 604 JAPANESE were taken prisoner by the Allied force (p.69-70)

From the footnote that you cite from guardalcanal:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guadalcanal_Campaign#cite_note-7
>Most of the captured personnel were KOREAN slave laborers assigned to Japanese naval construction units.

Going back to Kramer:
>"On Guadalcanal, between January 1 and February 15, 1943, the American XIV Corps took only eighty-four JAPANESE prisoners, thirty-three
of whom were too sick or wounded to walk.(p. 69)"

So there's your answer. Of the 1000 PoWs, only 84 were Japanese and counted among the 604.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270095
>Count in all the clay EoJ lost by that point.
Guadalcanal is the first Allied amphibious invasion of the war, so probably close to zero.

>Where the fuck they all disappeared to? Huh?
They died in battle, without dishonoring their nation or families with base cowardice.

>>13270110
... you're right. I forgot about it because I think we had maybe all of two admirals who had been around long enough to see that one.

[Anonymous No.]

Correction to >>13270130 - I didn't realize you were running on the Oct. 1944 figure, so disregard what I said at first.

[Anonymous No.]

I have 1-1 - 3-4 unlocked. What is the most likely place for Haruna to drop since I just need her. Should I just keep farming 3-2 until I get her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270140
3-2 is your best bet, since you can do something productive while farming for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270123
It's impossible to take only 84 prisoners. Slavshits had the the same death before dishonour mindset yet Krauts captured them well in thousands. Marines slaughtered them all, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270146
Guess that sounds good. Kongou only needs 8 levels to kai and I have KTKM and 2-3 subs to attack before things even start so I'm in good shape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270152
>It's impossible to take only 84 prisoners.
[citation needed]
>Marines slaughtered them all, retard.
[citation needed]
I cited my figures through the paper and links you so conveniently linked me. Where are yours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270155
> [citation needed]
Look at all german offensive operations. 100% same situation.
> [citation needed]
Common sense.
> Where are yours?
Your delusions are not funny anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270177
>Look at all german offensive operations. 100% same situation.
>The amphibious attack by untested soldiers of an American republic against the soldiers of an Oriental Militaristic Empire that had not lost a war in the last century in isolated pacific outposts is 100% the same as a Land invasion of a vast Eurasian Soviet Republic protected by unwilling conscripts of various ethnic roots by a Eurasian fascist dictatorship led by motivated and highly-trained veterans of two previous conflicts which had lost a major conflict in its last generation
Nice one. You figure this all out from "common sense?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270202
Death before dishonour part was absolutely the same. You can't write off all those losses on "lel they killed themselves" when slavshits had exactly the same mindset as japs and would rather commit suicide than become PoW yet germs captured them in dozens. You're not even trying anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270218

>Death before dishonour

Only the nips were true believers in that ideal. German and Soviet soldiers surrendered and were captured plenty during the war (how they were treated after is immaterial to the argument)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13267615
English wiki is saying the game will be down during that time, I wonder if they will be right, DMM maintenances so close to each other are starting to get annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270251
It's right, the log in page won't be available so you won't be able to access it. Kancolle Staff said not to try to log in during it the last time they had that so it will be the same this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270233
Again, no "lel they killed themselves" shit. Nobody tried to systematically slaughter them. Slavshits had surrender as capital punishment, the families of "traitors" who became PoWs were gulag'ed in best case and shot in worst. That provided a plenty of reasons for them to become true believers yet they were captured in huge numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270257
Well, fuck dailies that day then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270262
Consider that the Empire of Japan had ruled consistently for the last 85 years, while the Soviet Union had lasted 17, the last 5 of which involved its leader killing its citizens on a whim. Not exactly a regime that inspires loyalty compared to an emperor whose line issued (As far as they were concerned) thousands of years.

[Anonymous No.]

All I saw in this thread was some weeb getting BTFO by a legal history nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269987
good taste

[Anonymous No.]

Is (any main gun) + 12.7cmFD + air radar + plane supposed to be viable the AACI + Daytime cutin + Night DA for Maya k2?

I see the 25mm concentrated being useful if you're only doing day battles. Otherwise if you hit a night battle you're crippling nighttime damage..

Right now I can only afford to make one 10cmFD and a 12.7cmFD each.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck I forgot the subject for the new thread. Someone make a new one please


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[Anonymous No.]

>>13270704
ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270623
It's good for AA cut in and fine for night battle, but in my opinion daytime cut in is really bad compared with daytime double.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270704
That looks good. But even as a vita hater, that "psp vita" its just mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13269824

modernize Yuudachi's luck to 50 and she takes over cut-in duty as well, so yes, Yuudachi

[Anonymous No.]

What are the chances Eugen will be craftable or a random reward next event?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270704
Done
>>13270737
>>13270737
>>13270737

Ignore the other general shit thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270704
Still got caught by my filter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270739
100%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270739
She'll be rare as fuck with her equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270739
Most likely as a drop for those who never had her.
Will still be rare as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

What equipment should I use for clearing 3-5? I'm gonna use

Lvl 43 Yukikaze Kai
Lvl 73 Fubuki Kai Ni
Lvl 59 Yuudachi Kai Ni
Lvl 55 Shimakaze Kai
Lvl 49 Ushio Kai
Lvl 47 Sendai Kai

Should I just use 10cms and radars/damecons on the DDs (except Yukikaze who I know gets torps)? I also was wondering about Star shells and searchlights on Sendai because I have them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270743
Whoah, that's sad actually, thank god report and hide exists

[Anonymous 🔰 No.]

>>13270782
>Will still be rare as hell.
Asashimo-kind of rare?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270821
Yankeegumo wasn't rare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270821
Did you even try clearing E-5 TTK?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270821
Isokaze tier probably, or they could introduce a stupid new mechanic like needing a certain fleet to have a chance for the drop.
Boss S rank as well

[Anonymous 🔰 No.]

>>13270836
Isokaze-tier basically meant Boss S-rank.

>or they could introduce a stupid new mechanic like needing a certain fleet to have a chance for the drop.
I could see that happening in some sense (i.e: Nagano on last event).

[Anonymous No.]

>>13270782
I just want fucking Amatsukaze and Taigei like all the cool kids. 2-5 and 3-5 hate me though. Rabble rabble rabble

[Anonymous No.]

>>13271038
I got my two Taigeis from 5-2 and even a Mikuma while farming for them there, no luck in 2-5 after over a hundred runs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13266691
>>13266673
Managed to clear it for the first time, thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13271092
Still gotta clear 4-4 still. Probably gonna do it after the event though because I'm in the middle of 3-5 right now. I heard 3-4 is harder than 4-4, but I want to save resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13271106
Not too shabby, Ooyodo is proud.