Kantai Collection - Kancolle General - /kcg/

[Anonymous No.]

Previous thread >>13197797

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[Anonymous No.]

Which current boat deserves Kai2 the most?

[Anonymous No.]

Roughly what level should my ships be before I try 3-5?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13210215
150

[Anonymous No.]

>>13210215
If you have asperger's syndrome or a similar cognitive impairment you should be good to go at 100-120.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13209988
Choukaini

[Anonymous No.]

Is Maya good? I am leveling her atm.

[Anonymous No.]

You're going to run out of proxies with all this samefagging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13209988
>boat

>>13210215
Levels don't matter.

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>>13211135
>Levels don't matter.
Seriously just what is it with this meme being mindlessly shitposted unironically over and over?

Higher level = higher evasion = less damage taken = better clearing success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13211386
>muh evasion
>muh accuracy
It's a meme for a good reason. People have cleared 3-2 with lowbie ships and people have gotten rekt with high level ones. Maybe it matters for shelling phase, but with torp phase, where things really matter, things like evasion and accuracy do virtually nothing. And that's just day battle; at night, levels matter just as little, if not even less.

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>>13211406
>muh RNG game
The shelling phase is what's important so that there isn't much of a torpedo phase in the first place.
And you only Night Battle at the boss node, but getting there with your fleet intact is what's important - which depends on their ability to hit and kill things first or to avoid damage.

Seriously, a few levelups more have made clearing maps consistently and noticeably easier for me throughout the whole game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13211547
It only really started being a meme during a certain hellish event full of night battle-only nodes.

And it's probably true that it makes a difference in the shelling phase, but personally RNG has decided that it isn't so for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13210695
Maya has an extraordinary good Anti-Air stat (the second best in game when I'm not wrong after her second remodel), the already mentioned second remodel, an early first remodel (level 18 compared to most other CA's level 25) and otherwise pretty decent stats.
Maya-sama's awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

A friend of mine just got into the game and cleared world 1. I play for a while now, but he asked me a question I can't quite answer.
What's better, grinding in World 2 or running 1-5? After all, 1-5 gives 540 EXP for Flag and MVP which is a hell of a lot for such an easy map. However, I know that it raises HQ level very fast.
World 2 is slower (safe for 2-4-1 which he hasn't yet unlocked) but doesn't push the HQ level as insane and has better drops.
What do you guys think?

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>>13211855
> it raises HQ level very fast.
25 or 50 it doesn't matter at that stage. 3-2 takes less than a week to unlock anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13211855
If you only do the first node of 1-5 it barely affects your HQ level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13211878
>>13211893
K, I'll tell him, thanks guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13211878
Well, it took me a week to beat 2-4 back then (shortly after the ASW buff to the enemies) so who knows how long it might take him to unlock 3-2.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know if I should be shot.
>grind 3-3 for Mutsu
>3 days
>Kongou turns Kai Ni
>still no snail
>got a Kaga
>not happy

I know I should be, but I'm not.

[Anonymous No.]

What fleet combination is best for expedition?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212533
I grind 2-2 for Kirishima and still no luck.Got Yamashiro for fourth time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212591
Depends on the expedition, you can't answer this in general.

Check the wiki for the requirements.
Ideally however, if you need DDs pick Mutuski class, for CLs pick Yuubari for low fuel-consumption and Tenryuu or Tatsuta for low ammo consumption (or the other way around, dunno tbh), Shouhou and Houshou for expeditions that require a CV and if possible substitute as many ships in the expedition with submarines. However, the subs are not available for all expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212604
Okay thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212614
Sure thing.
Here's the link to the wiki
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition

I'd also recommend you check out
http://www.himeuta.net/f6-kancolle-guides/guide-expeditions-70.html
for more information

[Anonymous No.]

What expedition do you run alongside Tokyo Express 1&2?
2 for ammo/buckets
5 for more fuel/ammo
6 for bauxite/coins

Also, please bring Prinz back

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212709
I actually currently don't run tokyo express tbh, I'm spamming 1,2,4 - I need ammo and buckets, I'm 7k short of the natural regen for ammo and only have 44 buckets - which is a bit, well, little.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212709
2

You always need buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212775
Where do you get the bauxite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212804
I swap one of the TE for 6 once I have more steel than I know what to do with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212709
Currently 2,6,38

[Anonymous No.]

>>13210892
This thread gives me reason to shipposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13209988
Unless you're incredibly stupid, it's KTKM Kai2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212908
Sorry, it's 2,6,37.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13211855
Raising HQ levels quickly is no longer a bad thing. By all means do 1-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13213476
I wonder what the players' reaction would be if Tanaka decides that the difficulty selection is going to be a one-time thing.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, so I watched the anime and got hype about arrow-planes, wanted to play the game. You need to win the privilege of playing. How do you guys justify this to yourselves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214187
>getting introduced to this game from the shitty anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214190
I was introduced by porn, but the anime got me wanting to try it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214187
>Clicking a button at a certain time of day
>privilege

How do you live through such oppression?
Can I subscribe to your blog?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214239
The point is, they're making you play a lottery... to be selected to play Kantai collection. What the fuck man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214254
>lottery
>enters in one refresh
>hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214254
Have you read the wiki?
It doesn't work like a lottery though, they just open X amount of spaces and first in first served.
It's almost impossible not to get in, unless you screw up something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214254
If you are that retarded that can't get in then you don't deserve to play game at all.It is impossible not to get in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214254
back in my day the lottery used to mean something

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214282
so its more like a waiting list?

[Anonymous No.]

Did you remodel Hibiki to her Kai 2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212709
I can't recall the last time I did TE1. 2 is a mainstay, as is either 5 or 21. If I'm not doing both of them, the third expedition is either 38 for fuel/steel, 6 for bauxite, or 4 for quicker buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214187
>>13214254
Just get someone for you to do the lottery. There's a bunch of them waiting to help people at >himeuta.

[Anonymous No.]

>that path full of random chance
>that fucking sub in the middle of the boss fleet
Souryuu, you're a good girl and I like you very much but seriously fuck you for making me go back to 4-3 with that quest of yours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214600
It's not her fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13214402
She was my third DD k2 behind Poi and Shigure.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best way to grind for Development Materials?

I'm level 31 and I've got 3-2 and 4-1 open, and I've made it to Expedition 15.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13215524
Doing 2-4 for world 2 daily with 5-6 subs.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you do the daily sink subs quest after HQ 80?
4-3 grinding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13215665
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13211406

clear 3-5 monthly with level 20 ships, then I'll believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>13215665
I just 1-5 since I have to do the weekly and monthly quests related to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13215665
Just use 1-5.
It's not like the single sub in 1-5A poses any real threat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13216263
Equip her with a bulge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13212709
What is Tokyo Express?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13216291
37 and 38

[Anonymous No.]

>>13216274

anyone else find the irony in not being able to equip shimakaze with a bulge?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13216412
Not really, no

sick meme though

[Anonymous No.]

>>13215665
1-5 with asw flag + throwaways

[Anonymous No.]

Any quicker/easier way to sparkle than the good old 1-1?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13216817
Quicker? No.
Want to grind at the same time? 4-3.
Lucky with the Trollsub? 1-5.

[Anonymous No.]

today I learned the valuable lesson that rather than listen to the wiki autists, you should just use your strongest fleet composition.

[Anonymous No.]

I refuse to believe 3-4 is pure RNG, there must be a right formation because I've been trying everyday since the event ended and I can't reach the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13216918

That's more proof that it is RNG than that it isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25851957

Attack the enemy target!

[Anonymous No.]

Same question as always. American ships when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217021
Only as enemies. But as playable characters?
On an IJN wank game? Never.

[Anonymous No.]

Favorite battleship? Mine is definitely Mutsu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217067
It seems all the LSC fails made you insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217067
Mikasa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217067
Yamashiro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217078
She has a hot body, a nice voice, she's a solid battleship. What's not to love?
She was my first, so I'm partial to her.

[Anonymous No.]

Why would anyone do this? It's not like she gives birth every twenty levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217067
Mutsu/Kongou/Haruna form my trinity, Nagamon and Yamato come next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217127
He's just telling you to train your destroyers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217067
Ha ru na

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217127
Maybe he just want to collect the kantai and level all the girls to 99.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217127
>Why would anyone do this?

Yeah, why is she only level 99?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217067
If it's a battleship, it has to be made from the finest Krupp steel!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217067
Leveling mine to be 5 star.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217095
>Mutsu will never be your oneesan

[Anonymous No.]

Kiyoshimo's definitely getting a ring when she hits 99.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13216887
You need to question your own critical thinking if you accepted their advice at face value.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217164
Maruyu is a poor man's Yuu-chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217381
I tried for Musashi again today, got Ise. This enhanced build rate is going to expire before I ever get her.

[Anonymous No.]

ＳＨＩＴ！ Ｉ ｍａｄｅ ａ ｍｉｓｔａｋｅ ｂｙ ｓｏｒｔｉｅｉｎｇ ｅｘｐ３７ ｆｌｅｅｔ ｔｏ ｅｘｐｅｄｉｔｉｏｎ ３８.

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>>13210695
Maya is wonderful given you don't have Akizuki, and possibly Fubuki Kai Ni. But, don't let that stop you from having whatever girl you want, anon.

I personally adore Maya!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217428
Unlimited expedition works for ammo/steel. Ideally the only limiting factor should be baux/dev mats.

4/7/7/2 20. Go for it anon, Paul Allen bless you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217448
Just have the fleet be 1CL 5DD and you will never fail either.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't played in quite some time, any efficient way to farm dev mats outside of daily quests?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217067
Fukou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217483
I should have used 8 drum for the fleet.

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>>13217549
Why don't you have full drums for maximum placebo?

[Anonymous No.]

Is this one any good? Just got it from my first 2-5 run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217552
If you like useless rare ships, yes. I still don't have her.

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>>13217552
I got her then I used her as Modernisation Material

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217551
They are the only expedition fleet with 4 drums. Other fleets in rotation do have 8 drums.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217552

She's cute and can intimidate abyssals with her pose.

[Anonymous No.]

I heard a rumor that the abyssal ships are blatantly American ships if you look at the types of guns they field and the configurations they use. Is this true? Could someone source this?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm saddened by the lack of Ooyodo weekly quest post.

ded game
ded thread
ded abyssal

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217600
If you'd take a look at the weapon configurations of US ships and compare them with Abyssals' you'll see a connection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217601
Everybody is fucking their favorite secretary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217600
Who cares about America

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217552
She gets above average ASW on kai, which is a characteristic is shared with Yura, Abukuma, and Isuzu. This used to matter more in the early days before the ASW updates.

[Anonymous No.]

Grinding 2-5 for Akashi is going to kill me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217600
You can never source this because the development team will never come out and admit that this is Japan banzai fantasy fulfillment game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxjPX6OgXNE

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217600
Japan didn't have CLTs
It isn't that the Abyssal are just Americans, they are just sunken ships in general.

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>>13217600
You fight DD Hime and CL Hime in places where their IJN look-alikes sunk (Harusame and Naka/Agano respectively). Ne-class CA also resembles Suzuya/Kumano. These are recent additions but CLTs have been here since forever and they're a ship type unique to IJN.

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>>13217771
More like they're the nightmares of the ships personified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217781
>These are recent additions but CLTs have been here since forever and they're a ship type unique to IJN.
You said it like it wasn't possible for the Abyssal to improvise.

[Anonymous No.]

>Musashi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217838
Did she take all the torpedoes to the pooper?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217845
Only 2 or 3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217476
In my attempts of using the Musashi recipe I got Yamato instead. Not that I'm complaining or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217476
I have been tricked. All I got was another 4 hour timer.

RIP steel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13217874
I just did the 6/7/7/2 20 and got Yamato and Musashi back to back. First having Nagato as my flagship then switching to Yamato for luck.

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>>13217866
Same here. 7 tries of Musashi recipe and I'm done with Yamato too. Out of LSC's big 4, only Bismarck is left.

>>13217874
Stay positive. Even if you exhaust your resources during the drop rate buff, you have until golden week (which is probably around when the next event will be) to stockpile resources which is more than sufficient.

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>>13217922
>Stay positive

Not him but it must be very easy to say that when you you're almost done with LSC with <15 attempts.

It took me 47 before even getting Taihou. Going on 30 with no Yamato or Musashi.

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>>13217931
I guess you're right. I thought I used up my luck when I 1 shot Taihou but apparently its not extinguished yet.
Hopefully it holds till Bismarck falls into my arms.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you "beat" this game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218062

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>13218062
The only way to win is not playing at all.

>>13217874
16 Bisko tries so far. 2 Akitsumaru, 1 Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a new TTK and have been playing for a week now. Lots of fun, lots of time invested and lots of cute girls leveled.

What is the typical player progression after this point?

Reading the threads sounds like you need to do a ton of leveling, and that the later events / special missions are super hard.
Do I need to run expeditions and sorties for months or years to be able to do LSC and events? Do I have to level a lot of duplicates just for their Kai / Kai Ni equipment? What if I don't always have much time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218138
>playing for a week
>What is the typical player progression after this point?
The player base is so varied with how much time people put into the game, I don't think there's anything that's "typical" in terms of player progression.

If you want to know how you compare to other players, just post your HQ level, which map you've cleared up to, average level of your ships, etc. and we'll tell you how much you suck.

>Do I need to run expeditions and sorties for months or years to be able to do LSC and events?
I don't think you read those threads very well. Relatively new TTK are running LSC and events all the time. The game is just approaching its two year anniversary, so how would so many people have so many LSC crafted ships or cleared events if it took years before you had enough resources?

>Do I have to level a lot of duplicates just for their Kai / Kai Ni equipment?
Eventually you should, but not until way down the line.

>What if I don't always have much time?
Just play at your own pace. You may not be able to clear every event or get every ship right away, but every ship becomes available eventually and no ship has remained event-exclusive forever (so far). The only time you need to worry about how your progress compares to others is when you start worrying about ranking, which is going to be way down the line for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218138
I got to LSC within about a week. Just do your quests and you'll progress naturally.

[Anonymous No.]

>What is the typical player progression after this point?

Try to clear as much as you can, a lot of people clear World 2, unlocking World 3 and 4, then spend a lot of time on 3-2 and 4-3. This was fine before the EO maps, so try to clear World 3 and do 1-5, 2-5 and 3-5. You want those medals, and you have a month to do them.

>Reading the threads sounds like you need to do a ton of leveling, and that the later events / special missions are super hard.

It really depends, before the Winter event, difficulty would escalate according to your HQ level, in this winter event they introduced a difficulty system where you could pick the difficulty. So if you feel like you're underleveled, go for easy/medium, you might miss some rewards though. Also EOs do escalate with your HQ level, s be careful to not inflate it while having an underleveled fleet.

>Do I need to run expeditions and sorties for months or years to be able to do LSC and events?

It really depends on what you're aiming for, for example, if you want the LSC ships, then you want to make use of your natural regen, so you won't be stockpiling a lot. My advice is to do as many expeditions as you can, specially expedition 2, you never stop doing hat one. Devs usually announce an event a month prior to it, so you can stockpile till then if you want.


>Do I have to level a lot of duplicates just for their Kai / Kai Ni equipment? What if I don't always have much time?

I guess this depends on each one, I don't really like grinding a ship for their equipment but I'm reaching the point I have nothing else to do. I'd advice to have a lot of somewhat leveled ships, these events you might need ships from different classes instead of just BBs and CVs, so don't worry about leveling duplicates and just play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218174
Fuck, this was for this guy >>13218138

I guess it's time to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218138
Don't be intimidated by LSC, or events especially. That was my problem.
Low level TTKs can complete (easy difficulty) events just fine if you've done your research. The standard advice is getting two or three decently leveled ships of every kind to handle a required comp an event could throw at you. After that it's just modernizing and using the right loadouts.

If you're a little casual, I wouldn't waste time min/maxing by leveling duplicates. You can get by just fine leveling the right ships for the right equips.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>13218138
Also list your equipment and its quantity.
Level and experience mean shit if you're under-equipped.
If you don't believe me, ask IJN.

>Do I have to level a lot of duplicates just for their Kai / Kai Ni equipment?
Not really necessary except for min-maxing TTK or when you have nothing else to do.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I set the morale threshold for KCV? I can't find the option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218194
Settings->Sortie
Under Sortie condition

[Anonymous No.]

How long will the Paul Allen buff last? I'm kinda short on resources and I'm running expeditions non-stop to try for Musashi again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218201
Till the next update.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218201
Heard it's the next update, on the 27th.
Thank Allen, praise be unto him.
Looking to go for Musashi after that damn 80hr expedition comes back and can finally start the express.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218200
Ah thanks. I must have been blind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218138
I joined right after Fall 2014 (around early December) so I'll give you my 2cents as a relatively new TTK.

Your first order of business is to get all 4 fleets. Better supply lines means more gameplay and less waiting. Don't bother crafting the Kongous unless you have resources to spare, farm for them in the maps you have access to.

Run expeditions as much as possible. Ideally, the only expeditions you'll run are 2, 5, 6, 21, 37, 38, sparkling those that are 1hr30min and above. Efficiency wise in total resources gained it goes 5>21>37>38>>>>>2>6. You will need 2 for buckets and 6 for bauxite. If you are more casual running 37 and 38 once you have enough drums over 5 and 21 saves you a lot of sparkle time. Macro/scripting is bannable but accelerates your income greatly; whether or not you want to take that risk is up to you. This is a moot point if you can't get your hands on one/don't know how to do so.

Level good ships. I assume by now you know what the easily available meta ships are (KTKM, Poi, etc.) and don't dabble in LSC until you have a respectable fleet of at least 2 good ships per class type. Strong ships (who also give rare equipment) are important for you to clear maps with ease, inside and outside of events. There will be drivel about the power of love and clearing events with maruyu but being pragmatic never hurts. Many of the stronger ships lie in LSC but you can ignore those for now. There is no meaning in obtaining heavyweights if your resources cannot sustain deploying them.

3-2, 4-3 will be a huge part of your time once you unlock them (and you should, fast). It gets repetitive and really dreary but it is a necessary evil to prep your fleet for events. Keep in mind 3-2 requires a full DD fleet so don't neglect your lolis. Do complete extra operation maps (1-5, 2-5, 3-5) whenever you can because you'll need those medals for blueprints. Some of the best ships (Tone/Chikuma k2) are gated behind this mechanic.

[Anonymous No.]

Any advice on farming steel in 3-2? I'm worried about my subs, even when sortieing six of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218286
>farming steel in 3-2
Why not just run both Tokyo expresses or is that still not enough steel for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218306
Not enough.
I want to do LSC as long as boost has effect but am sitting at 12/11/8/10.

Fuck Ho flag.

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>13218286
4-2

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218273
5 and 21 are more efficient than tokyo express? I always thought since you had to run them more frequently that you would end up with a lower net gain in resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218313
If you're talking about the resource consumption to resupply your expedition fleets, the hourly net earnings are still higher for 5 and 21. This is of course assuming that you're using ships that have low resupply costs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218273
Wait, how do I script/macro?
Anyone have a link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218325
Search the archives.
Stop asking to be spoonfed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218310
I'll try that in two hours when Shioi and Iku repair.

>>13218313
See for yourself:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition?oldid=243380#Theoretical_Hourly_Net_Earnings
Sparkled ex5 with 6 ships gives wonderful income (~500 fuel, 600 ammo, 60 steel & baux in three hours) but it doesn't last that long and seriously, sparkling isn't nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218333
Can I at least get a hint at what I should be searching for? I'm grasping at straws here
Is there a name for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218349
I just told you to stop asking to be spoonfed and what do you do immediately afterwards?

>Can I at least get a hint at what I should be searching for?
No. You have enough information to find out what you want to find out about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218361
>expecting kanshill to be smart enough to google by themselves

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

>>13218339
>http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Expedition?oldid=243380#Theoretical_Hourly_Net_Earnings
Also this: http://www.kancolle-calc.net/expedition.html
You can tweak the options to suit your fleet's situation better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218313
2 5184
5 9568
6 1872
21 7525
37 6976
38 6317

This is from total net gain of resources in 24hours. For example 6 gives 2880 baux but costs -468 fuel and -540 ammo so its earnings drop to 1872.
No subs used and at least 5 boats sparkled. If I employed subs where appropriate the gap between 5 and the rest would be even greater. TE's value comes from its compensated chance of having great success and infrequency of sparkling required. They are also the number one choice for steel if you need it for LSC. 6 is horribly inefficient but the only good source of baux.

I have a excel spreadsheet documenting the various setups but the most efficient one is 5/21/37 which nets you 7346 fuel, 12245 ammo, 4006 steel, 472 baux and 1900 furniture coins. From observed trends, ease of acquirement goes ammo (2, 5, 21, 37) > fuel (5, 21, 38) > steel (37, 38) > bauxite (6).

[Anonymous No.]

Any point keeping more than one Akashi once i have 4 repair facilities?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218381
there is none

This comes from a guy who farmed oyodos for command facility

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218378
I thought I was in the World of Warships thread and I thought you were posting some cryptic beta key

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218384
>farmed oyodos for command facility
Why bother? Hoping for a combined combined fleet mechanic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218391
I was retarded back then. No excuses here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218391

>combined combined fleet mechanic

Not only will be repairs and resource cost be expensive, but each battle per node would be absurdly long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218339
>sparkle ex5 with 6 ships
>6 ships

Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218407
To have 100% great success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218381
Kai and pre-kai for viewing pleasure

Similar to farming 3 whales

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218361
Cool. So what's the program called

[Anonymous No.]

Last thread expired. Please make a new one OP because we really need duplicate threads and you are our only hope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218401
I can't wait.
Hour long sorties where you watch 24 ships bully a handful of 6.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218414
KanColleTool
Good shit

[Anonymous No.]

Do you take into account the cost of sparkling ships into your hourly net earnings? Running 3 ships for 2 nodes over and over again tends to add up. For short expeditions like 5 this becomes even more frequent.

[Anonymous No.]

Question, how many devmats could you theoretically earn per day (yeah, assuming all development are failure) ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218417

Someone's going to be in a world of mad when they get hit with error cat. I can almost imagine it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218430
Imagine the time lost sparkling.
The threads will be aflame with anger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218415
Done.

NEW THREAD
>>13218437
>>13218437
>>13218437

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218439
epic

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218429
Question, why don't you just figure it out yourself since you have the exact same access as anyone else to the necessary information (assuming you're not terrible at math or a dumbass in general) ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218443
i know rite

[Musashi !silf.UGEBE No.]

On another note, 3-2 might be better for steel than 4-2 if he doesn't do quests.

>>13218361
Funny since it's the first entry if he bother to use google and two simple keyword.

>>13218417
Bonus point if both sides missed most of the time. The first shelling phase alone should take 1-2 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218439
haha i like it xDDD

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218424
Ebin :^)

[Anonymous No.]

So do most of you script? Aren't you afraid of the banhammer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218439

I want to see the posts of the inexperienced admirals, like equipment.

Fusou 4th fleet
-15.5cm
-14cm
-14cm
-21 air radar

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218460
Everyone scripts, TTK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218361
Speaking of scripts, I was looking through one of them from 2014, and was wondering how they track scripts and give out bans.
Is it because they are too repetitive, so an admin can theoretically track if an account is using too many expeditions exactly the same way every time?
If so, would adding a delay of 0.1*random.randint(0,9) to the sleep time in between each action suffice, or is it too negligible to count as variability?
Spoilered cause not completely kc discussion related.

Anyone successful in playing on an android tablet past 4.3 or is downgrading the only option?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218460
Its a risk worth taking if the alternative is the complete inability to do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218473
>Anyone successful in playing on an android tablet past 4.3 or is downgrading the only option?
yo what? is this a thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218460
This is the 4chin bro. We fear no bans. :^)


>>13218439
thx bruv its nice to have a backup thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218473
The questions you're asking can't be definitively answered by anyone except for DMM or the devs.

When you script you run the risk of being banned, period. You can take measures to reduce your risk like randomizing delays, etc. but how much that changes your risk is unknowable by any of us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218482
>http://www.himeuta.net/f6-kancolle-guides/guide-play-kantai-collection-android-based-devices-131.html
Yeah, pre-4.3 there was an exploit to install Flash onto android and programs for it. Later people used web browsers, but would have to download the files every time you played the game, so was data intensive and hard on DMM's servers, making it potentially bannable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218426
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218488
Seen players with resources in the mid to high 100ks easily with scripting and haven't been banned after almost a year of doing so. I'm also on one of the summer 2013 servers, so shouldn't attract too much attention.
Also was under the impression ttks either get bored of the game or start scripting to show off some e-peen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218507
The cost of sparkling one DD to 85 morale is 18f/24a. With Mutsuki it's 18/18. GS on ex5 gives you additional ~85 fuel (accounting for two more ships), 100 ammo, 10 steel and 10 ammo. Sparkle lasts for 12 expeditions.

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait for the event

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218524
10 bauxite, not ammo*

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218524
That's assuming you run with only one DD per sparkle run. With the Mutsukis being as useless they are its entirely possible to get your ass kicked while sparkling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218541
When sparkling, you should use 1 or 2 trash dds you get from previous sparkling runs and not refuel them. That way they serve as protection from the boss node and extra fire power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218541
How else am I supposed to do that? You can't sparkle two ships at once on 1-1. The single fodder gets scrapped once it reaches 0 fuel and ammo.

Nope, it's impossible to get your ass kicked. I sparkled all my Mutsukis and had no problems. Modernize them. 39 firepower + Akizuki eq is already 45 firepower which can be further boosted with Akashi.
CL at boss needs crit to deal any damage with closing torpedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218550
I can't believe that in all of my time playing I've never realized that I don't have to resupply the trash DDs. The amount of resources I've wasted would have probably allowed me to do a couple of LSCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218561
To be super kuso, just sink them too..

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218564
For that you need them to get taiha'd at first node which happens rarely but yeah, continuing the run is more important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218564
It's normal to run them into the ground so sinking one or two is no big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218574
>keeping isuzus
>not grinding to 12 then euthanizing through modernization

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Furutaka viewed as an inferior CA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218564
>>13218571
>>13218574
Don't you have a heart?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218584
That's exactly what he's doing though.

[Anonymous No.]

How many ships do you use for sparkling? The only time I use more than one escort DD is when sparkling BB/CV - I also assign them a Maruyu.

>>13218584

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218587
Because Takao Kai has superior stats to Furutaka Kai Ni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218587
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/EliteCA
Because she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218587
Is she? Her eyeballs are valuable for extraction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218593
Always a single one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218588
They're weapons, not people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218508
I don't think anyone has ever gotten banned for scripting purely expeditions through the use of click sims. People who I've seen gotten banned are people who script 5-4 for ranking (top rankers disappears all the time) or people who use api call scripts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218607
You don't marry weapons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218588
My heart is big but some things have to be done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218587
Sissies can't handle her awesomeness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218574
>that Maya
Seeing her being so submissive and scared makes my dick hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218599
>>13218601

That's a shame, no chance for the devs to introduce retrospective buffs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218642
They already did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218611
You'd need an external program like warden

If you're goddamn playing it in your chrome/KCV(practically IE), worrying about getting b& for that shit pretty much means you're some dumb 3rd-world teenager with no idea how computers work beyond fucking facebook

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218648
How so when she's still weaker?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218657
She used to be even weaker, now she's not that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218657
Because the real ships were worse than the Takao class?
That's like asking why Nagato class is weaker than Yamato class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218657
Look at her Kai stats where she's basically Jintsuu with 39 less in torpedo. Kai Ni helped quite a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys I havent been keeping up with the news.
Which destroyer is getting kai2 this week? Do we have confirmation yet that it is Ikazuchi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218683
It's next month and we only know it's tokugata.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218683
Choukai is a heavy cruiser, anon.

特型駆逐艦 will get her Kai Ni on April 10th.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218683
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218686
What are the chances of Shirayuki getting it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218694
The only one who did as much as her was Inazuma so I would say the chances are pretty high. It might be worth checking if 10th April is notable date for anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

Will devs ever run out of ships to personify?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218657
She's stronk enough to be used on final event maps. Such minor stat differences, especially with her K2 form, barely matter.
>>13218698
http://www.combinedfleet.com/shiray_t.htm
http://www.combinedfleet.com/inazum_t.htm
http://pacific.valka.cz/forces/ijn/
Inazuma was refitted 10th April.

[Anonymous No.]

At the rate of new ships/annum based on 2014 I estimate that there's a good 3-years left

Obviously most of them aren't big, shiny glorious warships. We've gotten pretty much all of the popular ships from WW2

[Anonymous No.]

So I'm running a 2DD2BB2CA fleet for 5-3, and I've gotten 3 kills so far. Since my last kill however, Haruna Kai Ni and Kongou Kai Ni, both maxed, have been constantly taiha'd at either the first or second nodes by enemy cut-in. Is there a specific formation I should be using pre-boss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218717
Okay, next time I drop Inazuma she won't be used as modernization fodder. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218717
>>13218698
Nice. My Inazuma is ready. At least it is not another fubushit class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218727
Haha, got Inazuma just now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218735
>fubushit
Why so much hate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218754
Blame the anime.
I went from neutral to irrational hate to tokugata class and fucking whobucky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218766
Huh? You hate 6thDesDiv?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218754
Not him, bur Shibafu Fubukis are fucking ugly and lazy copypaste work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218780
They're lazy copypaste work

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218780
They're lazy copypaste work but they're not ugly. Still much better than Yadokari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218783
Ayaki>drew>Yadokari>Shibafu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218772
6th DesDiv a shit.
Their belly are the only good thing about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218766
You let that piece of shit anime affects your own opinion?
The Bucky in the anime isn't even the same Fubuki in game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218801
Say that to my face and not online, motherfucker. They're really cute lolis.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm pretty sure this quest is asking me to complete 1-1, and I've cleared it I guess since I now can deploy to 1-2. Still, I can't complete it. What am I missing?

Is my jap so shit I completely misunderstood what it's asking me to do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218786
The only good thing drew did was xmas Sazanami, the improvement was so good I didnt even think it was the same dude, so:
Ayaki>Yadokari>>drew>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shitbafu

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218832
Did you have it checked before sortieing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218835

What the shit, so that's how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218834
>was xmas Sazanami,
Akebono was even better, the hell you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218814
Totally the type you'd want to pump and dump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218839
God, I want that Akebono back

[Anonymous No.]

How many points are required to safely get into top 500?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218844
1200.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218837
Yeah, that's why the limit of 5 quests can be irritating when you want to do multiple dailies/weeklies.
Expedition quests are based on arrival of the fleet - so make sure the quest is checked before they return. It doesn't have to be checked when you send out expeditions.
Construction quests have to be checked beforehand but you don't have to wait until construction is finished, action gets counted immediately. It also applies to repairs.

[Anonymous No.]

Is chinese kancolle okay to discuss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218841
I always asked myself why they never ever did something like seasonal costumes dlc, so you can use them whenever you want, its like they dont want money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218849
>Expedition quests are based on arrival of the fleet - so make sure the quest is checked before they return.
Always makes me day when someone forgot to activate the quest for 48-hours expedition.
That alone would costs him a single LSC-worth of resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218450
I do the quests. However it is the first time I attempt World 4 weekly.
It looks much better than 3-2, in three sorties two boss kills, 145 steel gained and just two chuuha. On 3-2 Ho flag would taiha my subs half the time.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218851
Go make your own thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Will Akatsuki ever get Kai Ni?

I want to marry the Lady

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218916
She's so irresistibly adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218909
One of those is not like others. Where is Hatsukaze?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218925

Also, a true Lady!

Don't forget the important part!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218935
Yes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218929
Not drawn by Yoshinori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218935
>>13218942
But she isn't a lady.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218945
But muh desdiv 16

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218950
It's fine, Hatsukaze doesn't want to be in the same room as Yukikaze anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218954
Nobody would want to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218929
Hatsukaze needs more love

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218991
das it mane

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218991
Maya-sama a cute

[None !RJTTKg34hs No.]

>>13218991
da ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218979
She needs to let me poke her first.

[Anonymous No.]

I never knew I could be attracted to Mogami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219019
Did you use to be gay? Mogami is the qtest

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck am I looking at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219019
ｍｏｇａｍｉ ｉｓ ａ ｂｏｙ！

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219020
Shibafu art certainly doesn't help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218979
But I do

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218946
Shut up faget
A peasant like you would never understand her charm

[Anonymous No.]

Is WoWS actually good? Or are you guys in it just for the poi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219085
It's time to stop posting, Akatsuki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219028

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219028
so is z1

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219087
>WoWS
Ask vg.

>poi
Ask wikia/facebook/himeuta.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218950
Desdiv 17 > all

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219149
I want to impregnate Hamakaze

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219026
Pain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219019

[Anonymous No.]

The Vita game delay until August, RIP
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201503/23074636.html

[Anonymous No.]

What's the most common successful Musashi recipe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219219
With 20 devmats

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219219
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219219
7000/7000/7000/7000/100

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219219
4/6/6/2/20 with paul allen scroll

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218913
But there is no chinese board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219219
1.5/1.5/2/1/100

[Anonymous No.]

Why's she so hard to GET?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone using KCB?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218062
when you get all the ships
this is kantai COLLECTION after all xDDD

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219338
>xDDD

[Anonymous No.]

If I'm in dire need of buckets, how good is 2/4/9? 9's sparkled of course.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the evasion of a level 150 CLT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219402
105/105/115

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219402
https://myfleet.moe/user/10021095/ship#modal=true&id=2

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219402
It's on wikiwiki.

>>13219410
Isn't it 103/103/104?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219275
Try /vg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219402
Take what you have at level 99 and multiply it by 1.5

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219427
>>13219444
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219444
Actually, nope.

[Anonymous No.]

KCV is doing this weird thing where it periodically readjusts the volume of either the program itself or any other application I might be running. How do I fix this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219491
>>13219491

>>13219487
>How do I fix this?
Stop using it? Seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219495
I don't like OP picture. Can you make another thread then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219495
'300 posts, 2nd page. Lets make a new thread!'

Go kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219505
Just make a thread yourself when the new one hits bump limit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219219
4/7/7/2 20

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219495
I already made a thread for your kind in the morning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219495
Such a beautiful picture wasted on too early OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219495
Time to move! Let's go!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219563
Good taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219563
Respectable homosexual.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone love TTK as much as Kongou? Don't say Kisaragi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219613
Kisaragi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219613
Wot about cutest abyssal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219613

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219626
Iku's so cute, I wish she would drop for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219506
Maybe we should just abandon the thread. Maybe the mods will do something if we end up with 7 threads because we moved constantly as we reached page 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219693
They delete the old ones themselves. I'm staying here for the time being

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219613
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13218852
>its like they dont want money.
Well...
>Removing the shop button on the LSC menu
>Removing the 88 resources pack once an even ends
>Asking people not to overdo LSC
>Introduce white day cookies, but outright stats it isn't cost efficient.
Devs really don't want admirals money, and IIRC, jp TTK were discussing how to give more money back in june 2013 where the game boom occured hard in moonland.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219613
You did save her from Wake, didn't you?

[Anonymous No.]

Screenshots of the Vita game and limited edition details will come on the 26th.

Unless someone gets the magazine early, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219728
I expect nothing yet I feel I'll be disappointed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219742
Not a fan of how they made the Live2D look. Are there any good videos of Kancolle Arcade in action?

[Anonymous No.]

WoWS closed beta is open for applications if anyone is intrested
Hope you liked my suprise box

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219742
This sounds like the experience people got from the anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219787
Burgerclaps only? I tried the EU website and it says they're closed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219795
Yes EU, unless it was open for like hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219799
rip

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219803
I'm so sorry anon I could not post here earlier.

I'm gonne send you some bauxite when they release the trading mechanism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219807
It's okay friend. At least you tried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219693
I don't think it happens much if ever. Most of the discussion stays in the old thread until it dies, and only then do we hop to the new thread. The most posts I remember seeing in the new thread at that point is like 100+.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219807
Were they open for people to actually get in? I already put in a application thing but it only said to wait for a code.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220122
Check your mail? I got one today with code.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220129
Nothing yet, but this isn't a new experience with all the closed betas I've applied to over the years, nor would it be the first time I didn't get into one at all. I'm not in any rush.

[Anonymous No.]

Where's the best place to level subs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220220
You don't level subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220220
Your bed

[Anonymous No.]

>>13219787
Doesn't matter. It'll just sit in pending and you have to fish Twitch for keys.

It's been a long week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220220
>You don't level subs. They accidentally gain levels while in Orel.
That's what other TTKs told me, and it has proven true so far.

[Anonymous No.]

All of these unobtainable ships are starting to piss me off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220275
Get all the others and level them up so you can start collecting the trophies. Two or three port expansions would help as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220252
Dechi so moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220275
They're rewards for a reason, that's like saying gold medals piss you off. Events happen four times a year anyway so you have plenty of chances to get them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220283
I want to add ship capacity so much but 1k JPY for 10 slots is just stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220275
Should've started before the anime, kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220293
That's chump change, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220322
I know it's only like $8 with the exchange rate but it's not about total price, it's about value.

[Anonymous No.]

I want to show Akebono the true meaning of pain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220341
I want to shove my teitoku kuso down Akebono's throat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220299
>started before the anime
I started Winter 2013 you fucking cockpuppet

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220332

It's completely worth it if you've spent an obscene amount of time in this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220341
>>13220350

Yeah, I'd totally have sex with her too.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck this quest in particular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220377
>tfw cleared it in one try

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220353
I dunno, it's almost $100 to max out your fleet, that's crazy. I'd spend around $50-$60 on it for sure, and that doesn't seem unreasonable to me, that's a full-priced game basically with still other stuff to spend money on in docks and construction slots. I'm probably going to end up buying at least 30 slots but I'm not going to be happy about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220377
Kai, modernize, pray.

And take the north route with CAV's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220377
Gonna be tackling that soon, my Furutaka and Kinugasa are kai'd, but my Kako and Aoba are level fucking 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220381
I grazed the completion once with the boss left with like 12 hp. Never made it back to the boss again, because my Kinugasa isn't even a crit magnet anymore. She ascended and became a star, a fucking crit magnetar. I don't remember a single sortie with her not being at least chuuha'd. And the fact that I'm in the second difficulty bracket now doesn't help in the slightest.
>>13220388
That's what I'm doing. Although I'm reluctant with modernization as I have more prized by me ships awaiting it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220394
The number of times you'll end up grinding 2-5 will probably make up for the number of modernization mats you'll use on them wwwww

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220399
If I am to grind 2-5 with going north route I'd rather stick with my precious Takao-class.

[Anonymous No.]

Why was our thread deleted?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220415
Guess. You have one chance to prove yourself not a faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220377
That's piss easy and you only need to do it once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220415
It's still here, don't you see? You posted in it yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220415
You knocked one of the 2hu imagedumps off of the board. Bad Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220420
QUALITY "moderation" as usual? I see...

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220422
Tell that to my CAs.

[Anonymous No.]

>Need S-rank in Boss node to farm desireable ship
>Boss node has an elite Sub

What sort of loadout do I need to reliably kill these fuckers in 5-1 and 4-4?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220432
Congrats.

[Anonymous No.]

Kongou are cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220436
4 Slot CL filled to the brim with ASW equipment

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220445
I beg to differ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220427
That's not a valid reason. Fuck 2hu.


Since only abyss OPs seem to stick here it goes:
>>13220455

[Anonymous No.]

Is there another good map for leveling subs beside Orel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220468
5-5

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220468
5-3

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220468
4-2

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220382
You don't need 240 slots unless you're playing this multiple hours a day for more than year and want to have at least a single copy of every girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220459
go craft some LSC then

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YnheOlgK5uo Here, let her cheer you up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220502
That thing is, ultimately, the key reason I got into Kancolle. Kongou is a small miracle of the Universe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220394
>the second difficulty bracket
Lol. I have yet to do that quest despite being HQ101.

[Anonymous No.]

It's this quest that I'm suffering through right now, they just cannot survive to the boss with 2CV, and even in the rare chance they actually do they can't put out enough damage to S-rank it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220581
Your Hatsuhara and Hatsushimo should be kai ni'd already, making S rank on that easy as shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220581
Oh, this one was a bag of disappointment as well. Especially that I managed to S-rank it only to find out the quest wasn't marked active. However, all those disappointments made another S-rank taste all the better considering it was a last straw situation that ended with two consecutive cut-ins. Also, the 2 CV set-up wasn't working for me so I swapped Akagi for Kongou and it was infinitely better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220547
Same here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220547
Although it was the overall curiosity for me, can't say Kongou didn't play a major role in convincing me. I loved it when I got her on my first BB craft.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220581
>>13220617
How the fuck was having 2 CVs not enough to S rank the boss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220643
Maybe his best planes are Ryuusei and Ju87C?

[Anonymous No.]

Great, we are being deleted again.
Is there any particular reason why Kancolle is being treated shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220581
2 Fuso K2s guarantee AS on the boss node with Wo formation. It's very hard not to S rank it this way, 2 CV is retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220643
Bad luck with opening strikes, Ru being an elusive bitch with planes doing absolutely nothing to her or Wo. The list goes on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220652
Bad apples ruin the bunch

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220648
That might make sense.

>>13220658
What planes did you use? I cleared it in one try with cranes each with 1 green 3 blue, but come to think of it this setup might have been better:
http://aircalc.net/index.htm?yIUAxIDpiIDQglHgvKfgvqPOo-C_qNKjUOC8p-C-o-C-o-C-o8KjAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Honestly, you don't really need much fighter power for the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220671
I don't remember the fitting for Akagi, but I had Reppuu, Reppuu 601 and two Suiseis 12A on Kaga. And the strugle wasn't really about fighter power, but a lack of kicking power with 2 CVs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220682
Maximise kicking power by stacking only blues (and just enough greens for air sup). If you want you can bring a saiun to increase chance of contact and thus accuracy in the aerial phase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220682
You should use blue planes on bigger slots. As for kicking power... good CV with single dive bomber reaches daytime damage cap. If I'm not mistaken, Hiryuu can do it even with fighter-bomber.

>>13220698
Should Saiun be used on both CVs if they have small slots? Or rather Type 2 Recon on one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220705
Fuck reds, just go all out with blues. Except maybe Suisei Egusa, that shit's good.

>Should Saiun be used on both CVs if they have small slots? Or rather Type 2 Recon on one of them.
By all means go ahead, either yellow plane is fine. It's just that I personally prefer using small slots for air sup, but it might not be enough in some cases.

Which 2 CVs are you using?

[Anonymous No.]

3-5 with non-Kai Ni DDs and Isuzu (carrying a plane just for LOS, no less) as my only Kai Ni CL is shit.

I need to level 3-4 DDs and 1+ CL, preferably at the same time.
I've cleared up to 5-2 so far. Is there anything more efficient I can try than 3-2 with CL/BB/CVL/DD/DD/SS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220736
I'm not doing that quest yet, just theorizing. I want to K2 Hatsushimo first. I'll probably run Kaga and Hiryuu.
I really like red planes because I know what to expect from them. And as you said, that Suisei Egusa. It's probably half of reason for my DB love.

[Anonymous No.]

I should equip radars, not extra main/sec guns if I'm running 2-5 with this full CA/CAV comp, right?
If the calculator is right, I have more than enough ELoS, so 4-5 of them have a free slot.

Each of them is geared similarly, but Tone and Maya have rarer radars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220756
Since you want to level up several DDs, 4-3 won't work for you, so why not 5-1-D? You might go to node A every now and then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220377
I did this in one try with a non-modernized Furutaka kai ni and level 1 Kako.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220756
You can do it perfectly fine without K2s.

As for grinding, 5-1-D is better than 3-2-A even without rotation. 1BB choke full of radars, flagship has 2 sonars 1 depth charge, the rest has 1 sonar 1 depth charge 1 radar. F5 when you don't go to the sub node.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220783
Just saying what I did. I ran with Hatsushimo Kai.

That said, I made sure to have AA cut-in setup (and nighttime double attack) on all my ships. Maybe that helped a bit at the boss node, can't remember. Then again I didn't need it when I did DesDiv18 quest and CarDiv5 quest at the same time.

I find that red planes generally don't help as much in the aerial phase though, which is key for this quest when clearing with 2 CVs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220820
You have a point. Usually I don't care that much about aerial phase outside of AS because it's too unreliable but when it comes to clearing out potential threats while escorting DDs, TBs are probably much better choice. I'll keep your advice in mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220795
25% Chance to get wrecked by BB/CA/CVL and a team of alphanukesubs after burning extra fuel as the good alternative, for 18,75% more exp seems kinda like a bad deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220786
Never use third gun. team of CAs should never have problems with LoS in 2-5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220854
>18,75%
Learn how to count. You level 4-5 DDs at 5-1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220854
That's why you use a BB full of radars like >>13220810 said. And you don't really have too many alternatives when it comes to level up several DDs at once.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220854
You can try 4-1, 4DD1CL1BB. Starting nodes can only scratch which Akashi would repair while you wait for fatigue, the sub nodes are joke. Seriously though, you burn only 2 more bars, that's 20 extra fuel max while you level 5 ships you need. Or you can go the same 4DD1CL1BB at 3-2-A if you're paranoid. Nothing there can lolcrit you anyway, and scratches on destroyers cost less than scrap you get from drops.

[Anonymous No.]

Do the bonuses from weapon upgrades ever appear on the weapon itself, or do you need to calculate it yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220860
Okay, thanks.
Any particular reason 3 guns is a bad idea?

[Anonymous No.]

You did it Akashi, you don't have to fight anymore!

You're still not getting a chocolate, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220932
But that's mean as fuck. Give her the damn chocolate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220932
Wow you're an actual jerk

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220932
Stop bullying Akashi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220932
Akashi is really pretty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220874
>>13220865
>>13220864
>>13220810
Well, thanks for the input I guess. Will try it a few times and see if it works.

Biggest issue with 5-1 is I'm kinda paranoid about getting the banhammer over F5'ing. I've only been playing for a few weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220912
Because it's a cut-in set up in night battle meaning you either cut-in or do a single attack. You want your CAs to perform double attacks. Also, luck cap for three guns cut-in is pathetic 40.
Read the Combat page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220756
I tried to clear 3-5 with the 1 CL 5 DD fleet and kept getting send home after the first or second node. Then i replaced my weakest DD with Tone kai ni and aced the map. Yes there's a small chance that you'll get send to the north route but if you don't it's nearly a guaranteed clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220974
Which server are you in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220898
So I'm guessing I have to calculate it myself? Heard it was square root?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221203
Paramushir. It opened 12 Dec 2013.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221297
That's right after mine. F5ing should be safe for you.

[Anonymous No.]

When are more CL getting a kai2?

[Anonymous No.]

F5ing is never safe when done too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221340
How much is too much, though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221354
More than 100 times in a month, but that's just my opinion and it might be lower.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221360
Did you base it on anything at all, though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221363
Nope, just my opinion after seeing a couple people getting banned for "doing nothing wrong" over these past two years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221354
It depends on how old your server is. For mine it's probably 100 times a day. For the newer servers it's probably once a day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221381
Which servers are considered old and which are considered new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221354
10 refresh in several seconds

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221381
Do you even have any proof to back your claim?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221387
Those created before the 10 month gap from March 2014 to January 2015 (during which no new servers were created) are old. Those created after are new.

So there's really only one 'new' server (Saiki Bay Anchorage). Rest should be old enough.

>>13221402
Tried that once, didn't get banned.

>>13221412
Not really, just from personal experience.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember that bans for refreshing are not due to cheating, they are due to overloading the server. So unless you spam F5 every sortie or attract attention to yourself by getting into the top ranks, you can just refresh when things get ugly.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221720
I don't remember last time I had more than two non-S.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221720
Gonna clear 2-5 this week! Halfway there. You need 4 boss kills within the month for full clear right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221766
Didn't mean to quote.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the fastest/most efficient way to farm the Kongou's? I want to get that 4th fleet up and running, but have not seen a single one (only two BB's in total, both being Fusou). I have up to 2-4 unlocked, but probably don't have enough to clear 2-4, just farming the first node atm.

Also is it not possible to complete 1-5 with a BB or am I just getting shit luck? I know the 4 limit restriction and that people run with a BBV, but so far running it with 1 BB, 1 CVL, 2 CL's bring me straight south every time.
cost of only losing a few seconds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221785
You can't reach the 1-5 boss node with a BB, you need a BBV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221785
Isn't proper comp for 1-5 1 BB, 1 CVL, and 2 DD? I run BBV, CVL, DD, DD and never missed boss node.
Also, beat 2-4 and get 3-2 unlocked. All but one of my Kongous dropped in 3-2A. You should have a free Akagi, and craft another CV(L), then drop a few BB/CA in there. 2-4 easy clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221785
3-2A is by far most efficient. LSC would be fastest but that's a ridiculous way to get them. 4-1 should be faster than 3-2 but more expensive.

>>13221766
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221809
can't use BB, only BBV

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221799
>>13221813
Ah okay, guess I'll level Fusou to 20 so I can remodel her to BBV. Thanks.
>>13221809
>>13221810
Would CA's be better than Ooi-Kai and KTKM-Kai with Mini-Sub's? I've been running 1 BB, 2 CVL (or Akagi + CVL), Ooi-Kai, KTKM-Kai, and Sub(though I figure I could easily switch her out for a CA) for 2-4A farming. Seems like Ooi and KTKM with Mini-Sub's are amazing for everything as they 1-shot almost anything they hit before the fight starts, and combined with two CVL's, I usually take out 2-4 ships before the fight even begins. Not sure how the rest of the map plays out so mainly wondering if CA's are better than KTKM+Ooi for the whole map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13221959
The only ships I ever used on 2-5 (probably getting close to 100 runs so far) are: 4 Myoukous, Maya, both Tones, Suzuya, Mogami. So, I can't really say how other compositions fare but I love this map.
Yeah, haven't done the weird quests yet.
CA have several advantages over CLT:
1) they can use artillery spotting
2) they are sturdier and evade better
3) they get accuracy bonus from 20.3cm guns in night battle
Suggested composition for 2-5 is 4CA2CAV, each CAV with one drum for guaranteed north route. Other spots are obviously 20.3 and Zuiun. CAs have normal double attack set ups with radars. Only yasen node should pose any problem but you get through it most of the time.
From what I know, CLT can be used without much problem if you're lacking in CA. I bet you know this by now but make sure your girls are fully modernized (except for AA) before attempting any harder map.

[Anonymous No.]

Soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222012
>2-5
Not sure if you meant 2-4 or if you misread, but on the topic of Artillery Spotting, I have that set up on Fusou (35.6 Twin, 15.2 CM Naval Gun, Seaplane, Type 21 Radar), which usually smashes 1-2 ships with it. I just figure that if I can kill the majority of their fleet, Fusou and pals can clean the rest up. I have some CA's, enough to fit that criteria, but they are underleveled at the moment (KTKM is 32 and Ooi is 22 while my highest CA is a lvl 14 Tone, followed by a lvl 8 Choukai and Haguro, so currently both CLT's have better evasion. I'll probably keep same setup, but switch sub with Tone. I don't know, besides liking both KTKM and Ooi, having 121 in Torpedo's while being able to attack first and have decent ASW and evasion seems hard to take off the roster.

Thanks for the help, trying to get good at this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222109
>>13218801

[Anonymous No.]

How are your kainiless tokugatas doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222246
>mfw I finally unlock the Tokyo Express

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222012
Since I only have 1 CAV, I'm going to try 1 CAV, 4 CA, and 1 DD for 2-5. DD as flag and drum mule. I tried going in with 2 BB, 1 BBV, 1 CL, and 2 DD, but I kept going to the dead end node at the beginning on the S route.

>>13222140
I didn't use CLTs or 2-4, but that's because I didn't have any. I still think the best setup for beating 2-4 would be having some BBs in there to weather the hits.

[Anonymous No.]

Heh, it actually works. Not very sustainable though. Just need 1 more kill now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13220786 reporting.
Full CA/CAV comp worked quite well once I added Star Shells and drums.
Would run again next month.

[Anonymous No.]

For anons who were interested in the expedition efficiency calcs I did yesterday, have pic related. Although 37/38 make better longevity of your sparkles in terms of daily income you still prevail if you run 5/21. The only thing constraining your income is how readily available you are to sparkle your ships.

TL;DR: 5>21>37>38>2>6

[Anonymous No.]

For 2-5 can I do north route without yasen equipment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222455
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Where is a good place to level my high level DDs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222524
5-4

[Anonymous No.]

Tawi Tawi is the best server.
Taking it easy all day everyday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222549
>Hair down KTKM

MUH DICK

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222549

is that a nuvaring

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222549
Meanwhile in Palau, everyone is fucking active. Can't take it eajy

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222549
japs never take it easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222549
Well, here in Brunei is pretty cool. Except for the dick admirals that leave shit lvl ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222562

I remember when I could get past the 1000s just doing whatever. Now it's impossible to even be near 5000.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Rabaul a good server to be in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222318
> I still think the best setup for beating 2-4 would be having some BBs in there to weather the hits.

If I only had more than one. Maybe one day the RNG gods will send me another BB that isn't Fusou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222676
>tfw cleared 2-4 with 2 3 CA 2 CL 1 CV even before artillery spotting existed
Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.]

Who's this weeb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222683
LOL! XD

[Anonymous No.]

Why does 2-5 north say to bring ca/cav and a clt but then asks to bring 2 drum canisters when none of them can?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222776
Because CAVs CAN carry drums.
I still wouldn't bring any though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222584
I beg to differ, it's the first time I've been demoted to 中将 even though I completed World 1, 2 and 3 EO. Usually it's enough to ensure 大将 for a month.

It isn't a big deal, but low rank guys tend to leave shit ships in the first fleet. I can't take it easy like this.

Other than that, Brunei is pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.]

Tried 3-4 around 10 times now and still have never made it to the boss. Either by someone randomly getting crited on and ending early or more commonly getting sent to dead ends.

Is this world always bullshit or am I just getting unlucky?

[Anonymous No.]

Why does my bauxite drain when I'm fighting subs? They can't shoot down planes can they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222862
Needs more love. I'd keep leveling Souryuu, too.
Can you post your loadouts?

[Anonymous No.]

So /jp/, I have a level 99 KTKM, but no Ooi. Where and when can I join the 3CLT club?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222891
CA grinding at 3-3, 4 CA 2 CV.

[Anonymous No.]

Best 4-1 comp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222881
Kongou: 46cm Triple Gun Mount, 15.5cm Triple Gun Mount (Secondary), Type 0 Observation Seaplane, Type 32 Surface RADAR
Souryuu: Ryuusei x3, Sauin
Fusou: 46cm Triple Gun Mount, 15.5cm Triple Gun Mount (Secondary), Zuiun, Type 21 Air RADAR
Mutsu: 46cm Triple Gun Mount, 15.5cm Triple Gun Mount (Secondary), Type 0 Recon Seaplane, Type 21 Air RADAR
Akagi: Tenzan (601 Air Group), Ryuusei Kai, Ryuusei, Type 2 Recon Aircraft
Hiei: 46cm Triple Gun Mount, 15.5cm Triple Gun Mount (Secondary), Type 0 Observation Seaplane, Type 33 Surface RADAR

Only CV I had was Akagi for the longest time and only recently got a Souryuu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222926
Not first anon, but wouldn't DA do more damage?
Also in my experience cut ins do bad damage for some reason.
There's also that accuracy penalty on your 46cm?

And shouldn't cv be further down the list?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222926
>Not day double attack setup.
>No air superiority.
>CV in second slot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222926
>using yellow guns on BBs.
>no fighter planes

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222926
You need read the fucking wiki more and least blogshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222926
Your loadout are really fucked up. Get air superiority. Put double attack setup on your BBs. It seems that you don't know anything about them so learn about them, go read wiki combat page.
How the fuck could you survive until having two BB kaini'd without knowing those basics. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.]

Some level 150 trivia:

The only DD with a higher evasion at Kai 2 (or equivalent) than at Kai is Fubuki. Hatsuharu and Yuudachi break even. All other DDs have a lower evasion at Kai 2 (or equivalent) than at Kai.

The only ships with a higher evasion than Mutsuki-class (114) are Yukikaze (115), Amatsukaze (116) and Shimakaze (121). Interestingly, Amatsukaze has a higher evasion than Yukikaze at level 150.

Yura, who was used for her ASW during the Summer 2013 event, has a suprisingly low base ASW (94) at level 150. Out of all CLs, only Tenryuu-class, Sendai, Yuubari (all 92) and Ooyodo (59) have lower base ASW than her. You may also count in Katori (82), although she's a training cruiser in-game.

The only ship with higher LOS than Ooyodo (112) are Tone-class (120). All the CV(L)s lose to them in LOS.

Despite CAVs having a higher LOS than CAs, this is not true for BBVs and BBs (hotels notwithstanding). Ise-class have lower LOS than every BB except Yamato-class, and Bismarck drei's LOS is comparable to those of Fusou-class.

The fast BB with the highest evasion is Haruna (92). That is on par with the slow BBs with the highest evasion (Nagato-class), and lower than the BBVs (all slow) with the highest evasion (Ise-class, 98).

(cont.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222992
Although Jun'you is a slow ship, her evasion is the highest among all non-DDs. That said, the only DDs with a lower evasion than her are Z1 and Z3. Her sister Hiyou is no slouch either, as her evasion is the second highest among all CVLs.

If we discount Hiyou-class and Taihou, all CVs have higher evasion than all CVLs. Adding in the exceptions, Taihou has lower evasion than all CVLs, Hiyou's evasion is as high as Akagi's and Kaga's and higher than Taihou's (but lower than those of every other CV) and of course Jun'you beats everyone else.

For all the talk about Shoukaku getting hit more than Zuikaku, the former's evasion at level 150 is actually higher than the latter's (100 and 98 respectively). In fact out of all CVs, only Hiryuu (103) has a higher evasion.

Although Iku, Goya and Hachi convert from SS to SSV on remodel, their LOS at base form is higher than at Kai (by 2 points).

Maruyu has the lowest evasion (39) at level 150.

Akashi's LOS (8) is the only single digit LOS stat. The next lowest is Maruyu at 28 LOS.


Source:
http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?Lv150%BB%FE%A5%B9%A5%C6%A1%BC%A5%BF%A5%B9

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222946
DA or cut ins have been pretty mixed for me lately and kinda only just started running all my BBs with cut in.

Hadn't really noticed accuracy penalty with using 46cm but going back to 41cm isn't a big issue.

Yeah it should, forgot to order it when I took a pic.

>>13222963
Been playing for a while on and off and never really read much into combat and just grinded a lot. CVs I never really used much and never figured out. I'll go read the wiki some more.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, still wasn't able to get another BB, so just gonna do 2-4 with what I have. Anything I've done wrong/can do better? According to the wiki, I shouldn't face any Carriers (A K L O J is apparently what I should go to since I have a CVL), so I'm not using any fighters.

Fusou - 2 35.6cm Twin Gun Mounts, 2 Zuiun's
Tone - 2 20.3cm Twin Gun Mounts, Type 0 Recon Seaplane
Junyou - Tenzan, 2 Ryuusei's, Saiun
Akagi - 2 Type 97 Torpedo Bombers, Tenzan, Suisei Model 12A
Ooi Kai and KTKM Kai - Type A Ko-Hyoteki, 61cm Quad Oxygen Torpedo Mount

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223028
Remodel them first. And fighter is must

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223028
>According to the wiki, I shouldn't face any Carriers
That's bullshit. It may increase you A->K chance but it's not 100%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223028
>According to the wiki, I shouldn't face any Carriers
Are you stupid? Or are you gonna refresh everytime you get sent to carrier node? Also with no fighters your BB/CA won't double attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223067
>Also with no fighters your BB/CA won't double attack.
Actually they will if the enemy has no planes.

But yeah I wouldn't go with his setup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223028
I wouldn't hedge my bets on a "likely".

Even if there are no enemy cv, your unrrmodelled girls will get shredded out there.

Just take it slow and amass girls and levels, 2-4 is designed as a brick wall.

Not to mention you have to fight against rng.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223057
>>13223059
>>13223075
>>13223067
Alright, so general consensus is:
-Kai the un-Kai'd
-Bring a Fighter (or more than just one?)

Sounds like more suffering, but alright. As for the fighter, who do you think I should slap it on? Still trying to grasp the carrier thing. If I read correctly, damage is based on a multiplier of the Torpedo stat for Torpedo bombers(?), and I should swap the Type 97 out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223098
I don't calculate air power myself, I just go with fighters on 2 biggest slots whenever I see a high air power requirement, hasn't failed me yet.

Personal advice would be to try the 4bb 2 cv suggested on the wiki, even if it means waiting longer.

Judging by your fleet, I'd say you'd get stuck at 3-2 again anyways, another brick wall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223098
For now, train at 2-4-A and Kai all your CVs and CVLs you have. When that's done, come back and list all the planes and CVs you have.

[Anonymous No.]

What are your marriage policies? Does every girl who reaches 99 get a ring?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223122
There is no reason to not use this
http://aircalc.net/
It takes all of 10 seconds of your time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223141
For me, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223146
Just call me lazy I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223141
1 marriage per ring I get for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223122
Fair enough. 2 Fighters on each brings me to 107 AS, but apparently I need more than double that for AS. And I wouldn't mind getting stuck at 3-2 since I need to grind the Kongou's and that's apparently the most efficient place to do it.
>>13223138
>For now, train at 2-4-A and Kai all your CVs and CVLs you have.
I assume this is to get new equipment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223184
Yes, and also to expand your options for which CV(L)s you can use for this map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222246
Sazanami 53, Akatsuki 87. Will train Inazuma after Choukai gets her awaited and well deserved Kai Ni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222246
Do we know who's getting her kai ni next? I heard it's going to be multiple destroyers in spring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222895
What setup do I use for the CAs and CVs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223184
Have you done that quest for free Akagi? She's not the best but she works early game.

You generally would want an actual cv for serious engagements due to bigger slots, unless hard branching rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222246
Row 1: 13/6/none/17/none/none
Row 2: none/15/12/39/12/47

Kai 2? Level and keep.
No? Well, better hope your voice/personality/art is desirable or you're either gone or in the storage compartment. Doesn't help that half the tokugatas are really boring compared to the trophy DDs.

For the record most of my expedition DDs are in the 40~50 range with some higher outliers (Kiyoshimo, Hamakaze, Murasame) due to favoritism. My combat DDs are all at least 70 with the exception of Yukikaze (69) and Shimakaze (43).

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223227
2 guns 1 plane 1 radar. Flagship can be a non-Kai CA with just 2 guns 1 plane. Doesn't matter what setup the CVs have as long as both of them have at least 1 attack plane and a combined total of at least 243ish fighter power.

[Anonymous No.]

Would you like a child system to be added /jp/?
The child will have different looks and sightly better stats than the mother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223229
He does have an Akagi so I assume he did that quest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223212
At least one of them will be one from that image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222246
47/47/48/62/45/45
45/45/62/45/52/62
As you can see, I show particular biasedness towards starters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223227

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223262
>no radars for a map with maelstroms

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223265
2 of my other CAs have radars anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223262
Are you retarded? You think that guy has access to half of the shit you just listed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223269
It's best to have 3+ ships with radars. >>13223247 would be better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223273
Can't the guy improvise? It's not like I'm expecting him to have the same set-up.Geez

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223262
Type 2 yellow for what purpose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223253
>>13223229
Yea, I did. Using her and swapping her with Ryuujou when she takes decent damage. Before I go to sleep, this is what I currently have Carrier wise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223287
Most likely contact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223262
1 year and half. Still in no Mikuma club ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Houshou and Shouhou are shit tier carriers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223312
Well, Kai some of them first, get some better planes, and then come back.

>>13223317
Another Saiun would've been better. Every bit of LOS helps in artillery spotting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223321
What did you say about my wife you fegget

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223273
I always find it hilarious that people give advice without clarifying the guy's armory/fleet.

Its like the retards who advise you to throw in reppuu kai in a slot so you can skimp out on having to equip/field something else. Or that if you wanted to meet the LOS requirement "just throw type 32s on everything". If the guy had fucking reppuu kai or enough type 32s he wouldn't be asking for your help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223340
>I always find it hilarious that people give advice without clarifying the guy's armory/fleet.
Likewise. It's one of the first things I always do when I try to help someone. I've always thought that was common sense; if you don't even do that there's no point in you "helping".

[Anonymous No.]

Best way to lvl Akitsu Maru?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223340
>without clarifying the guy's armory/fleet.
It's his job to do that in the first place. Otherwise, don't expect quality answer.

Besides, I agree with >>13223283

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223358
Look. "Improvising" DOESN'T WORK when there are arbitrary values that need to be met when equipping a fleet. AS, LOS, whatever. If he doesn't have enough reppuus he'll have to substitute a shitter version in which will impact his available firepower which he'll have to compensate somewhere else. You cannot "outplay" arbitrary values with skill. This game is a glorified calculator sim and newfags simply have to suck it up and play while at a numerical disadvantage.

I can also post my high leveled ships and slap good planes on them, "here newfag xD i'm helping" but I don't because what's the fucking point? You're not helping. And just because the guy is asking for help doesn't give you the right to post absolute drivel because "its his job" anyway. A shitpost is a shitpost is a shitpost. Want to flaunt your game knowledge? Good, work with the faggot's equips and see what kind of miracle you can work. Think about it. If he knew what his job was as TTK would he be asking this den of neckbeards for advice?

If you don't want to help (like me) just simply don't post anything. Don't shit up the place with posts that reek of self aggrandizement (here look at my equips, wow, so good) with no value at all.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the best map for the world 4 weekly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223387
4-2 with subs. At least 4+ kai'd subs is recommended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223387
4-2 with ships I want to level. If I don't need to level anyone then 5 or 6 subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223372
What, do you really expect him to bother changing his equipment to stock 20.3cm and such?
I bet you're going to complain about this pic.

Besides, if someone's going to show off their equipment, it has to be Shinden Kai. Nothing else comes close.

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>>13223421
Way to miss the point. Just stop.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish SSV could attack other subs with seaplane bombers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13222246
Here are mine:
Shirayuki 66, Hatsuyuki 66, Miyuki 62, Murakumo 112, Isonami 67, Shikinami 66.
Oboro 60, Akebono 73, Sazanami 66, Akatsuki 77, Ikazuchi 67 and Inazuma 70.

Making progress every day with pvp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223421
Nobody asked him to show his equips.
Typing here is enough.

Many "guides", even the japanese ones are fucking worthless (like the one you posted) because it assumes their clientele has played this game for over a year. The only time someone makes sense out of these guides are when they've played for a good period of time and ding ding ding, that's when they don't need these guides. Why they wouldn't use regular equips and state in an addendum that IF you do have event limited goodies, you could forego X, Y or Z is beyond me.

The only parts useful there are the 制空値 estimate, 渦潮対策 note and Saiun explanation for newbies. Good luck acquiring that reppuu kai though, maybe 300/300/300/300 while sacrificing virgins at the altar might work. Nope, I'm not nitpicking the guns for reasons you probably already know. FP and AS/LOS are vastly different beasts in terms of gating and cannot be lumped together.

Its like showing an impoverished family in a backwater third world nation your weekly grocery list at a local supermarket as a guide to "how to stop malnutrition". It just doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

Do weapon upgrades change the tooltip of the weapon to reflect damage increases, or is it a self calculated figure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223566
I have no idea what tooltip means but Nips had to test the effects of improvements, they aren't show in weapon's stats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223570
Meant the weapon description, guess you have to figure it out yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

Is anybody's Yuu-chan still pure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223601
Of course. I'm not a kuso, I don't turn pure girls into sluts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223604
I tried to resist, but I gave in to the FaT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223421
Not him, but:

A guide has to take into account what resources its target audience would be likely to have at their disposal. The reason being, the guide should be telling its target audience that, even if you don't have the optimum equipment, you can still clear the map easily enough. That's what a guide is for in the first place. Otherwise it's useless for its target audience, like the one you just posted.

In this context, it's ships and equipment. For example, it's reasonable to expect someone intending to clear 5-5 to have sufficient Reppuu, BBs, CVs etc to follow the guide, but it's too much to expect someone intending to clear 2-4 to have the same things.

A rule of thumb is that for endgame maps (this list is not exhaustive).

What is fine (i.e. readily available):
-all craftable equipment (eg. Reppuu)
-all ships craftable from non-LSC (eg. Kongou-class)

What may or may not be fine (i.e. not readily available):
-all LSC/drop only ships (eg. Mikuma)
-all stock equipment from those ships
-all stock equipment from ships that need significant grinding to obtain (eg. searchlight, star shell, quint torp, 20.3(2) gun, Urakaze gun, type 98 night recon)

What is not fine:
-all ships that are event reward-only (eg. Prinz Eugen), only drop from event maps (eg. Unryuu), or are very hard to farm in normal maps (eg. Amatsukaze)
-all equipment that is only available as event rewards (eg. Reppuu Kai) or as stock equipment of the aforementioned ships

Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, such as when the guide in question is for an event map, you may of course use the event rewards from earlier maps (eg. guides for Winter 2015 E5 may include using Katori, which was E4 reward). However, they are exceptions for a reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223421
>>13223621
(continued)
There are many grey areas in between, but again, the rule of thumb is that where possible, you should go for the strongest readily available equipment in the context of the map and the intended target audience, rather than the strongest equipment period, since it might not be readily available (eg. quad torps in place of quint torps, vanilla 20.3 guns in place of 20.3(2) or 20.3(3) guns. Where not possible (eg. searchlight, star shell), by all means go for the not so readily equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223601
>implying Yuu-chan is pure
http://exhentai.org/g/790708/5c3e06e10f/

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223665
>not even translated
No one cares about that slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223623
I'll just do what other anon said and stop posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223601
What's that on the bed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223704
A flower.

[Anonymous No.]

What happened to Kitakami that night?

[Anonymous No.]

Why is anime Fubuki such a shit MC?

My theory: she supports Liverpool. She's always the victim, it's never her fault. This perfectly explains her behaviour in episode 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223755
What the fuck is Liverpool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223755
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

Shoulod i keep Akigumo, Maikaze and Yamagumo?
Can't really see any reason for keeping them other than that they are relatively rare

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223777
>>13223778
Wrong thread, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223787
Maybe you should just jeep Yamagumo, I kinda expect a new Nishimura fleet sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223815
I want to see Yamagumo blazing it at the back of jeep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223787
Maikaze already has her spotlight at the last event. Yamagumo, I was just about to write the same thing as this >>13223815. No idea about Akigumo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223819
Yeah, keep and Nishimura fleet quest. I used to type like a pro, not sure what happened with me.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Orel farming the best way to take care of daily sorties? I just started looking to get through my quests every day and yesterday got stuck on 5 world 2 bosses, I was running 2-1 at a really slow pace and the fairy just didn't want to send me to the boss. I wanted to go to bed so ended up subbing out ships and ended up wasting resources just to finish the quest. Should I even bother doing the quests until I have an efficient way? I only have Goya and Imuya so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223815
>>13223831
Alright Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223855
>Is Orel farming the best way to take care of daily sorties?

Yes.
But I don't think you should be doing it until you have 4 or maybe 3 subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223141
No, only the ones I actually like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223141
Yes. But because I don't want anyone to be on the level of my true shipfu I hold everyone else at 97 or 98.

[Anonymous No.]

thanks paul allen

[Anonymous No.]

Still trying to do 5-3, this is taking way too long, and lots of resources + buckets. I keep getting a taiha mainly on 2nd node.

On the other hand, Yukikaze beat her previous645 and got a 743 hit on a DD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13224031
Sparkle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223141
only if i like her enough
still got like 20 unmarried 99s

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223141

>>13223960
>>13224262
This. That's why my Kitakami and Ooi will be level 99 forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13224269
>not liking kitakami and ooi
cum on dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>13224279
I like them. Just not enough to marry them.

[Anonymous No.]

When do the docking completed voice files ever play?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13224323
When you send a ship to the docks and then use a bucket

[Anonymous No.]

>>13224323
Bucket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13224325
>>13224326
Not him, but it doesn't play even then. Instead, the versatile line plays.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a reason for 15.2 to be holo? Even the background is simple grey

[Anonymous No.]

Is DMM's site down for everybody or is it just me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13224751
Just you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13223601
We all know what TTK who strip Yuu of her superior German battle gear are really after.

[Anonymous No.]

are there any late game maps you can level multiple destroyers up at once on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13225473
I've had an easy time leveling 2-3 DDs at 4-1, with good planes and 2CVs/CVLs you can even afford to clear the boss node without hassle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13225473
5-1D

[Anonymous No.]

>>13225473
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

hi
>>13225473
meet
>>13220756

Though after getting Taiha'd by both 5-1 subs and 4-1 trash, I just ended up smashing them at 3-5 as is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13225643
>getting Taiha'd by both 5-1 subs
How? Did you send lv1 girls without modernized armor?