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Previous thread >>13132923

[New to the Game? Read first, Ask later]

Wiki:
- EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Kancolle_Wiki
FAQ / Tutorial is under "OPERATION" Tab
- JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

Miscellaneous:
http://pastebin.com/ZuL69uzx

Kancolle Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

PSP Vita Game (2015 Spring): http://kancolle-vita.com/
Kancolle Kai (PSV) trailer released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tEvFFtSh0E
Dengeki Online article about the Kancolle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096/

News:
- Hinamatsuri event lasts until 13th March
- Maya Kai2
- New foreign ship
- Vita game to be released in May
- TYPE-MOON x KanColle Event(TBA)

Please ignore this thread until the previous thread is completely dead.

>> No.13142734

>>13142662
>Please ignore this thread until the previous thread is completely dead.
Fuck off
It's already dead though, but still fuck off.

>> No.13142804

Next time please be less shitty OP and don't forget to add /kcg/ to the subject field.

>> No.13142875
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13142875

>tfw no mutsuki drops
Being a high lvl TTK is suffering.
I just want to finish their shitty quest.

>> No.13142892
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13142892

This is outrageous.

One of the players on my pvp roster has my name in his comment box; my name is pretty unique, so I think he is calling me out, because his fleet is entirely SS and my main fleet is entirely ASW.

What a coincidence.

>> No.13142901

>>13142892
友軍艦隊 when?
They should fix that first instead of adding more useless kageros.

>> No.13142905

>>13142901
Kagerou

>> No.13142910

>>13142905
kageroo

>> No.13142914

>>13142910
Straya pls

>> No.13142956

I'm just going to keep the mochi since I won't be able to finish that damn quest

>> No.13142964

>>13142914
>you will never experience the joyous taste of roasted jumpmeat
you should feel bad

>>13142956
Is there a time limit?

>> No.13142984

>>13142964
I will take my deep fried butter over that any time, thank you.

>> No.13143097
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13143097

which fluid druid is this?

>> No.13143107

>>13143097
ro-500

>> No.13143348

>>13143097
that's a semen tanker

>> No.13143454

when will they finally fight american ships instead of random alien ships that live deep in the ocean without any reason

>> No.13143676
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13143676

Is katori's expedition actually worth burning a slot for 24 hours? how much exp does it give?

>> No.13143697

>>13143676
just do exp 22 and never look back

>> No.13143747

>March 13th Update
>Maya Kai Ni
>Maya of Takao-class Cruiser
>Not Takao

No, fuck this shit. They clearly have something against the best ship.

>> No.13143762

>>13143747
>Akatsuki
>Shiratsuyu
>Kuma
>Nagara
>Aoba
>Hiyou

Also Sendai was the last of her class to get Kai 2.

>> No.13143776

>>13143747
People have been speculating about Maya's AA remodel since 2013.

>> No.13143790
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13143790

ㅣol?

>> No.13143900

>>13142892
Would be a lot more convincing if you put a screenshot.

>> No.13144177
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13144177

Can this setting beat up 2-4?

>> No.13144183

>>13144177
:^)

>> No.13144191

>>13144177
> KanColleTool
Enjoy your ban.

>> No.13144271

>>13144177
Just try it out.

>> No.13144318

>>13144177
Christ that font length is hideous.

>> No.13144447

Are there diminishing returns on maps for mochi? Got 4 mochi at 3-3 in a single day, now can't get a single one for 3 days.

>> No.13144557

>>13144447
welcome to rng enjoy your stay :^)

>> No.13144983

For doing the 20 victories for 1 Akashi screw quest, what's a good PvP setup while having Katori as flag?

>> No.13145062

>>13144983
Katori and 5 BBs. Get the most EXP per resources for those fatties.

>> No.13145150

Just wondering but, what gear should I immediately attempt to upgrade with screws, like, which stuff gets the most immediate benefits?

>> No.13145167

>>13145150
tor pedos

>> No.13145580

>>13142892
And I met someone with the same username as me today. Mine is in capital letters though.

>> No.13145646

'Sup /kcg/. After only 3 days of casual mochi farming between LoL matches, I already have 10! This was way easier than any event.

We're all gonna make it, brahs.

>> No.13145921

>>13144447
Nah, that's a lie.

>> No.13145928
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13145928

「艦これ」開発/運営 @KanColle_STAFF · 20m 20 minutes ago

次回「艦これ」全サーバ群共通メンテナンスは【3/13(金曜日)】に実施予定です。同メンテに伴うアップデートでは、防空巡に生まれ変わった重巡洋艦娘の改二改装実装を予定しています。また桜の季節には、ソロモンで圧倒的な活躍を魅せた姉妹艦も改二実装を準備しています。お楽しみに!

>> No.13145936

>>13145928
TLDR Choukai Kai Ni

>> No.13146086

>>13145928
Are we getting Maya and Choukai Kai ni as well as a new foreign ship?

>> No.13146258

Is shimakaze canonically a trap?
Gelbooru's results confuse me, she's the most advertised boatslut and she's always a trap, I don't want this bullshit that she's actually a gril.

I don't even play this game I'm just here to get my fap folder sorted out.

>> No.13146267

>>13146258

no, ZKMS is a gril, they are all grils, fags just love her

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>>13146267
Definitely one of the most special fanbases I've seen..
At least it churns out good porn.

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>>13144447
I think so. I did really well the first few days because of map variety introduced by weeklies, but then once I finished those (twice now) all I did was repeat 3-3, 4-3 and 1-5+1-4 on the side. For a while it was decent but now I can't remember how many days it's been since I last got mochi from 3-3 (I was running about 25 3-3 runs a day previously).

So, now I do 5-3 for transports, 1-3 for making my subs suffer, and Hoppo for throwing away resources. Now my drop rates have returned to being reasonable.

If you haven't had a similar experience, I currently have 28 mochi. It doesn't seem like it'll kick in too hard until you farm a single map to death hard. I'd be interested to hear from other people that have ground the same map(s) over and over into a fine powder to see if they have similar or differing experiences. (In the end it's all anecdotal bullshit anyways, though.)

pic related

>> No.13146575

>>13146565
I simply get an average of 1 mochi every 15ish runs of 3-3.

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>>13142804
シズミナサイ!

>> No.13146614

>>13145928
> 桜の季節には
Choukai K2 is not until late March ~ early April. In case anyone thought both are getting K2 on the 13th.

>> No.13146645
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13146645

Can you complete 4-3 with subs? I keep trying but I get redirected either over to the bauxite node or the southwest each time.

>> No.13146658

>>13146645
Yes. I've completed it about 9-10 times each week using six submarines for the weekly during this blasted event. (Other 2-3 clears were 4-4 after I ran out of patience).

>> No.13146666

>>13146258
There are no male ships. The only ship that was referenced to with a male pronoun was Bismarck, and well, I'm sure you can tell how well that translated into KanColle.

>> No.13146721

>>13146565
>28

Can I have just one anon?

>> No.13146723

Should I farm mochi with max ships?

>> No.13146740

>>13146721
No fuck you. Those are my blood, sweat, tears and buckets from the past 12 days.

>>13146723
No, you can use the level 1 CAs, CVs, CVLs and BBs for 1-4 and throw them out after. Plus wikiwiki says that doesn't affect the drop rate.

>> No.13146839

>>13146740
all of your lifes' luck used up on mochi

>> No.13147158

What equipment would you want the devs to add into the game?

inb4 Kaiten

>> No.13147197

I can't believe I got disconnected from vpn when the lottery is about to start, fml.

>> No.13147198

>>13147158
Named fighter squadrons from Akaga K2. Seriously, those are long overdue. 9 aa 3 acc 2 eva Zero 21 turning into 10 aa 3 acc 2 eva Zero 52
(or 11 aa Shiden / 12 aa Reppuu) with quest, where?

>> No.13147201

Fucking hoppu RNG bullshit, sparkles do nothing.

>> No.13147203

>>13147197
Quickly reconnect, you might still be able to make it.

>> No.13147209

>>13147158
Anti-ship sword.

>> No.13147215

>>13147209
Tenryuu pls

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>>13147209

>> No.13147250

>>13147231
The way that sword is designed reminds me of the beam katana from No More Heroes.

>> No.13147258

>>13147203
been trying for an hour

>> No.13147263

>>13147258
Use another proxy?

>> No.13147267

Forever 4 mochi
I have done like 200 3-3 runs now and 4 mochii
only 30 buckets left and 4 mochi
no dignity and 4 mochi
no more tears left to cry with only 4 mochi
I even watched Tamako Market : Love Story in hope to find more mochi but
4 mochi

>> No.13147268

>>13147197
You don't even need a VPN.

>> No.13147275

>>13143776
People have been speculating about virtually everything since 2013.

>> No.13147279
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>>13147231
That's a shitty sword no worthy of Tenryuu. Now, Zankantou on the other hand.

>> No.13147292

>>13147263
I do that every 15 tries.

>> No.13147298
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>>13147279
SKW when?

>> No.13147299

>>13147268
Are you being serious? cause I can't even get kancolle to load cause region

>> No.13147301

>>13145646
Thanks bro, you give hope to all of us.

>> No.13147307

>>13147299
Read the connection tutorial. Take a look at the regional cookie section. It's a DMM-wide thing.

>> No.13147312
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13147312

I think I made it!

>> No.13147324

>>13147312
Not yet you haven't.

>> No.13147377

Is Palau down? I keep getting errorcat everytime I start the game. Cleared cache, waited 9 hours still can't get in.

>> No.13147423

Er... What do I do with 2 Akitsumarus?

>> No.13147428

>>13147423
Level for asw gyro

>> No.13147429

>>13147377
Grab a new API.

>>13147423
Keep one, farm the other.

>> No.13147431

>>13147307
OH! SO THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT!

>> No.13147435

Thank you OP, finally a good thread.

>> No.13147437

>>13147435
I disagree.

>> No.13147438

>>13142875
You should have all ten Mutsukis doing expeditions, kuso.

>> No.13147464

>>13147435
It's okay.
> PSP Vita Game (2015 Spring): http://kancolle-vita.com/
> - Vita game to be released in May
Redundant information.
> - TYPE-MOON x KanColle Event(TBA)
Not even worth putting on the OP anymore.
> Dengeki Online article about the Kancolle Kai trailer: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/964/964096/
There's not much useful info there.

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>>13147312
I didn't make it.. Well, there's still monday.

>> No.13147550

Will the Vita game be the exact same? Can we play on our old KC account while on a non-jap Vita?

>> No.13147553

>>13147550
How the fuck should we know?

>> No.13147562

>>13147553
I don't know, haven't been in these threads since end of event, thought you might have some info.

>> No.13147569

Does the BB weapon overweight only affect 46 cms?

Recall someone talking about even 41 and 35.6 being affected and that any gun above the default for that ship is overweight.

>> No.13147572

>>13147569
No

>> No.13147575

>>13147569
No, you got it wrong. Historical guns give bonus to accuracy, it doesn't mean you get penalty for using 41cm.

>> No.13147578

Has there been a /jp/ sings wanker yet?

>> No.13147589

>>13147575
That sure explain why 38cmKai is considered best gun for BB.

>> No.13147605

>>13147575
There is a decrease in accuracy. Otherwise, equipping 46 on Kongou sisters wouldn't be less accurate than equipping 41.

http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/?%CE%FD%BD%AC%A5%DA%A1%BC%A5%B8%2F16

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Holy shit where were you guys before? This has to be the smoothest run ever.

>> No.13147616

>>13147607
I will laugh at you if you get red T at the boss.

>> No.13147619

>>13147605
>Otherwise, equipping 46 on Kongou sisters wouldn't be less accurate than equipping 41.
Because? It's obvious 46cm and 41cm aren't the same so they shouldn't behave the same. 46cm gives penalty.

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13147627

>>13147616
Close but no cigar. I would've flipped out if they saved their choking for the boss node.

>> No.13147628

>>13147619
There's a penalty on 41 as well, which you'd know if you bothered to look at the link. Have you been living under a rock for the last week?

>> No.13147643

>>13147628
No there isn't, moron.

>> No.13147658

>>13147628
I don't see anything about 41cm penalty there. Kongous have lower accuracy with 41cm because 35.6 are their historical guns and therefore receive a bonus. If I'm wrong, please tell we where exactly instead of linking some vague article.

>> No.13147679

Aren't you all pretty much saying the same thing?

If using a 41 is more accurate than a 46 you can either say the 41 has a bonus accuracy or that the 46 has a penalty. All depending on where you choose to put your baseline.

>> No.13147681

>>13147658
> △:過重砲・命中低下のデメリットがある

>>13147643
Go crawl back into the cesspit.

>> No.13147683

>>13147679
Baseline is no guns at all. Nothing else makes sense.

>> No.13147686

>>13147681
△? or 〇?don't sound very convincing.

>> No.13147688

>>13147686
There are two charts there, and in fact, the confirmed chart is at the top. How did you miss that?

>> No.13147694

>>13147688
And where is the source for this confirmation?

>> No.13147699

>>13147694
2ch's testing threads, and other individual tests, I'm sure, just like all the other pages on wikiwiki.

>> No.13147706

>>13147699
It would be nice to have them because really, some funny symbols like triangles or circles don't really tell me anything, I want concrete data like 91% accuracy vs 93% accuracy etc.

>> No.13147719
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>>13147679
/kcg/ likes arguing over semantics, what's new?

If someone values firepower/range more, they'll be more inclined to speak in favour of the 46cm, hence considering it the baseline equip for BBs (which isn't really false, at least outside of events) which will give the 41cms an "accuracy bonus".

If someone values accuracy more because combined fleet mechanics gave him PTSD, his baseline would be the top gun that comes with no penalties, thereby giving every gun with a larger caliber an "accuracy penalty".

Alternatively if you wish to employ scientific method then the default would be no guns for a control set, which is another different realm of autism on its own.

>> No.13147721

>>13147706
There is about 10% difference with every symbol.

>> No.13147722

>>13147706
You can have them if you just search the relevant 2ch threads.

Also, I think the symbol system is employed because accuracy has a variety of factors that are not 100% understood. One that we actually do know is the accuracy cap, which makes saying x has 4% less accuracy than y incorrect where it will be at the cap for either gun. Thus, it's more broadly applicable to just state the qualitative conclusions from the tests rather than have a bunch of data.

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>>13147681
You don't have a data sheet to back you up, retard.

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>>13147734
>Testing near the accuracy cap

>> No.13147742

>>13147734
You're insufferable. A single screenshot of unknown testing methods, unknown origin and unknown date. You sure are credible. Just kill your self and do the world a favour.

>> No.13147755

>>13147734
I never understand why people do tests with 4xw/e gun. Why the hell would you ever mount 4 guns?

>> No.13147758

>>13147755
This. 3 guns make sense on Prinz or flag Myoukou but that's it.

>> No.13147759

>>13147742
Why don't you try it by yourself then if you wouldn't believe those testers, faggot.

Some tests can be found here:
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results_(Source_to_be_cited)

The chart I gave was posted here:
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/KanColle/M.1409559451.A.AE1.html

If you still have problems with them, kindly kill yourself instead.

>> No.13147770

>>13147759
>retard
>moron
>faggot
Why are you so upset? Not that other anon.
Also,
>chink source

>> No.13147771

>>13147755
>>13147758
They just want information for the heck of it. And it's not like it won't ever come in handy. For spring E4 last year I stuffed 4 guns on the lone BB.

>> No.13147783

>>13147770
>Why are you so upset?
Is there a rule on the internet where you have to behave like a good boy or something?
>chink source
There's a jp blog there too.

>> No.13147784

>>13147759
>Test map is believed to be 1-1-1
>Map 1-1-1
Seriously?

>> No.13147789

>>13147784
It's a fair test and because morale is perpetually at 0, the accuracy goes nowhere near the cap.

>> No.13147797

>>13147759
>>13147738

>> No.13147799

>>13147789
It's useless test because opponent has shit evasion.

>> No.13147807

>>13147799
And what about shit evasion? If you have shit accuracy why would shit evasion matter so much?

>> No.13147813

>>13147799
You're still able to get differences in accuracy out of it, which is worth quite a lot.

Honestly there aren't actually great places to test this shit. On things you actually care about (like gold Ta) you'd have to break out the buckets if you wanted enough results to be statistically significant.

>> No.13147814

>>13147807
>shit accuracy
What? Only combined fleet has shit accuracy. Bongou with 46cm guns on 1-1 has much better accurasy than with 35.6 dazzle/proto in combined fleet.

>> No.13147815

>>13147789
>48.3% ▲▲▲▲ Kongou K2 / ? 35.6cm x 4 424
>56.6% ▲▲▲▲ Kongou K2 / 99 Proto 35.6cm x 4 502
>33.5% X X X X Kongou K2 / ~95 41cm x 4 936
>24.4% X.X.X.X. Kongou K2 / ~95 46cm x 4 447
You mean this? Which show that anon was right all along and there is difference in accuracy.

>> No.13147816

>>13147807
Nobody knows the enemy ships morale, tests are invalid

>> No.13147818

>>13147797
>Why don't you try it by yourself then if you wouldn't believe those testers

>> No.13147820

>>13147799
>herp derp I'm making a bunch of assumptions about how accuracy and evasion work therefore the results are invalid
Some testing on 2ch and some blogs already showed that accuracy and evasion are calculated independently, and then the two are combined linearly to give the actual hit chance (given it doesn't exceed the cap). So it doesn't matter what the fuck the target evasion is as long as accuracy isn't so stupidly high to prevent meaningful testing.

But if you really want to work on targets with real evasion have fun computing each and every different class and formation in 3-2 separately.

>> No.13147824

>>13147820
>as long as accuracy isn't so stupidly high to prevent meaningful testing
The accuracy is very high outside of combined fleet you greentexting cretin.

>> No.13147827
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13147827

So, there is a point in leveling all the girls or I should stick with ones I got/like more?

Also, what's the best way to get Jintsuu, spamming crafting or 1-x maps?

Please respond.

>> No.13147828

>>13147814
>>13147824
Try bringing a BB with 0 morale to 1-1 with any 2 guns and see whether her accuracy reaches anywhere near 97%.

>>13147816
>you in charge of reading comprehension
YOUR ship's morale. YOUR ship's accuracy. Not the enemy's.

>>13147818
I do believe this test.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Homuhomu123/Shelling_Accuracy_Test_Results_(Source_to_be_cited)#IV_-_Overweight_.2F_.22Fit_Gun.22_Mechanics_on_BB_.28Red_Morale_Test.29

>> No.13147829

>>13147824
Maybe for your waifu, but what about a level 25 Kongou? Wait, don't tell me you didn't even know levels impact accuracy greatly.

>> No.13147833

>>13147827
Do daily 30/30/30/30.
Progress with the game.
You'll get her eventually.

>> No.13147834

>>13147828
>0 morale
How about you take a look at the test you're supposedly talking about?

>>13147829
Just kill yourself if you can't hold proper conversation.

>> No.13147835

>>13147824
hence the 0 morale tests

Or are you implying that accuracy is so high the results don't matter? If so, what >>13147829 said.

>> No.13147838

It feels more realistic to not know the exact accuracy of x guns on x ship. A fair assumption is good enough for me.

>> No.13147841

>>13147834
>Test map 1-1, and ships were mostly Lv 90+. In order to avoid the accuracy cap (around 97%), test ships were kept in red morale (severly fatigued).
While it won't be 0 morale all the time, it will be 0 morale half the time if you keep on sortieing the same girl. You can easily do one 1-1-A run in a minute, and morale only regenerates every 3 minutes.

>> No.13147842

>>13147833
>You'll get her eventually.
Well, I know that, but I really need a 3rd fleet to farm fuel.

>> No.13147846

>>13147815
Missed this post but yes, this one.

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>>13145928
>>13145936
>>13146086
>>13146614
Haha, I was just about to ask about the chances of getting secret Choukai K2 like we did with Yamashiro.

>> No.13147854

>>13147841
I looked at the test which was quoted here - it had morale at 47-49 or ~85.
Okay, it makes sense then.

>> No.13147870

>>13147854
Not sure how you missed this part out.
>Red_Morale_Test

>> No.13147877

>>13142875
She is easy to get, I used to have 10x of her.

>> No.13147885
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13147885

I really love this window

>> No.13147891

>>13147870
Now that I look at it, the Kongou tests are worthless because they use four guns. Even at high morale they were missing with 3-4 46cm guns.

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>>13147885
Me too.

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>>13147885
>>13147918
Me three.

>> No.13147950

Holy fuck.
I used Echelon for shit and giggles in 5-3 yasen node and all six subs made a cut-in. I'll use it for next few tries and see if I just got lucky.

>> No.13147957

>>13147950
Echelon isn't known as the miracle night battle formation without a reason.

>> No.13147959

>>13147755
What's worse is that they don't even bother including the highly relevant 41cmx2 setup or any of the other prototype gunsx2 setups. Who the fuck cares about how much accuracy you have with 46cmx4?

>> No.13147989 [DELETED] 

Tell me /jp/ what should I do with my 10 mochi,
ahould I keep it or exchange it for screw?

>> No.13147990

>>13147950
>>13147957
Placebo.

>> No.13147998

>>13147990
Echelon is normally more costly than other formations. Expensive placebos work better than cheap placebos. Q.E.D.

>> No.13148008

>>13147959
They were testing if negative effect from 46cm does stack or not.
If you really want read how these test is going go check kancolle bbs on shitaraba.
Those "フィット" testing has started on the previous test/analyze thread of that forum.

>> No.13148014

>>13148008
Believe me, if I knew how to read any of this I would have already.

>> No.13148018
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13148018

>>13147885
I like this one

>> No.13148020

>>13148018
That's great as well but it's not hanami-time yet. Unless you're in Okinawa.

>> No.13148025

>>13148018
I want that one, looks really good with the trees outside.

>> No.13148026

>>13148020
I'm in the other hemisphere

>> No.13148079
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13148079

I'm free of LSC hell!

Finally I can start crafting equipment again. haven't crafted equipment since it was added. (Because i had enough Reppuu)

It was a good idea to follow the max chance stats of that chinese site.
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLog?sid=143

>> No.13148082

>>13148079
You're free - for now.
I can see the next LSC only ship added soon

>> No.13148087

>>13148082
Tirpitz. You know it.

>> No.13148088

>>13148087
Yes. Or Shinano

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13148106

>>13148079
THANK YOU TIME BASED RNG

I'M DONE TOO

I LOVE YOU ANON

>> No.13148114

>>13148106
Not surprising since now is the best time to craft those big LSC ships.

>> No.13148121

>>13148079
>>13148106
Stop it. You just want me to waste resources, don't you

>> No.13148123

>>13148079
>>13148106
Too bad I only got Hyuuga ;_;

>> No.13148159

>>13148123
4/7/7/2 recipe?

>> No.13148179

>>13148159
biikame
13 BB LSC so far, the best ships I got were two Mutsu.

>> No.13148182

Level 84 here. How would you rank the EO maps in terms of difficulty?

>> No.13148184

>>13148182
1-5 is piss easy. 2-5 can be RNG fest, just like 3-5.
5-5 is retarded.

>> No.13148190

>>13148182
5-5 is hard the rest are chump easy. 3-5 has some RNG silliness on either route.

>> No.13148191

>>13148182
If you have ships for north route, 2-5 isn't much harder than 1-5.

>> No.13148234

Why do some girls require blueprints to remodel? What's the philosophy behind it?

>> No.13148251

>>13148182
1-5: very easy, 4 sorties = 1 medal.
2-5: both routes are easy, but I prefer the nothern one. Usually 4 sorties are enough, but sometimes you'll be forced to retreat.
3-5: RNG-heavy, medium difficulty. Both routes tend to troll the player, the choice is up to you.
5-5: Hard. Usually not worth completing unless you're aiming for the rank.

>> No.13148253

>>13148234
A large overhaul of the ship's design? Are you upset there's something you don't have and are looking for answers?

>> No.13148270

>>13148234
Reason for finished EO maps monthly

>> No.13148287

For the last 10 runs, Hoppo taiha'd 1 ship sharp. No more no less. Fucking hell.

>> No.13148292

>>13148088
I sure hope she'll be an event clear reward just like her sisters. Having to go back to LSC is going to be the end of me.

>> No.13148327

>>13148292
If they still keep that planned branching remodel for her, you will have to go back to LSC nevertheless.

>> No.13148337

>>13148234
Usually these blueprints are needed when the remodel was fictional or discontinued.

>> No.13148365

>>13148327
I wonder if we get to pick between BB and CVB, can we have both in the fleet or will it be like chitochiyo.

>> No.13148368

>>13148234
Reminds me, will Maya need a blueprint?
I just used mine on Chikuma and won't be in a hurry to level Maya if that's the case.

>> No.13148372

>>13148368
We haven't had a blueprint girl in a while, and she's specializing into an aa cruiser so I think it's likely.

>> No.13148373

>>13148368
How are we supposed to know?

>> No.13148378

>>13148372
Amagi?

>> No.13148383

>>13148378
Who?
(my bad)

>> No.13148388

Will there be a chance of any blueprint equipment?

>> No.13148398

>>13148383
Winter E-5 reward.

>> No.13148411

>>13148398
I was just making a bad joke because I had indeed forgotten about her using a blueprint.

>>13148388
Every blueprint remodel comes with some hard to get equipment. Hopefully it's something new though this time.

>> No.13148412

>>13148368
Her becoming AA cruiser is historical, so I don't think it will.
If dev will add some kind of super sub HA gun, she may ask you a blueprint.

Either way, I think she will get Akiduki-like internal AAFD.

>> No.13148417

>>13148411
I mean upgrading equipment with blueprints.

>> No.13148431

>>13148412
You know what I'm hoping for? A dual purpose AA gun that also acts as a main gun like the DD guns, so my CA can finally day double with AA cut in.

>> No.13148439

Will luck on carriers ever be useful?

>> No.13148445

So, Maya Kai Ni possibilities:
1) Built-in Anti Air Fire Director
2) New actually good high angle gun for cruisers
3) Gun above with built-in AAFD
4) Gun above but also acting as dual purpose
5) Type 22 Radar Kai 4
Am I forgetting anything?
To be honest, I think she'll get some of those and require blueprint at lv 70-80.

>> No.13148451

>>13148439
It already affects critical evasion chance. High luck ships are more likely to evade hits that would crit them to red.

>> No.13148455

>>13148451
>High luck ships are more likely to evade hits that would crit them to red.
www

>> No.13148456

>>13148451
Source?

>> No.13148459

>>13148451
Zuihou.

>> No.13148466

>>13148445
Higher AA stat than Akizuki?

Also I think they'll give another option in Akashi's. I'll need more screws for that.

>> No.13148467

>>13148455
Luck affects every action of a ship to some degree. It's part of the RNG calculation equation.

>>13148456
Insider tip which was thorougly tested. :^)

>> No.13148468

>>13148445
Depth charges.

>> No.13148475

>>13148467
>Luck affects every action of a ship
I'm dying here

>> No.13148493

Crafting failed me so hard. How do i get Kaga

>> No.13148494

>>13148493
Crafting more, of course.

>> No.13148498

>>13148493
Hold out Akagi facing downwind and hope she picks up the sent.

>> No.13148505

>>13148493
Lift weights.

>> No.13148516

>>13148493
Masturbate to her doujins.

>> No.13148529

>>13148493
I've gotten 5 kagas this week off of 3-3

>> No.13148537
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13148537

So much for TYPE-MOON x KanColle collab.

>> No.13148547

>>13148537
Should have figured Type Moon would disappoint.

>> No.13148611
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Irako or screws for mochi?
Leaning more towards screws.

Also is this new or do I just not post much?

>> No.13148616

What expedition is the best for routine Hotels/Bisko LSC?
21,37,38?

>>13148611
>Irako or screws for mochi?
Mochi. Use your money to buy Irako/screws.

>> No.13148624

>>13148616
2,6,38.

>> No.13148631

So what's my best bet at getting Hachi? Just missing her and Shioi to complete my SS collection and I may as well focus on the easy one first.

>>13148611
I'd take the Irako, for most of them anyway. Screws are farmable.

>> No.13148635

>>13148631
>Screws are farmable
No they're not.

>> No.13148637

>>13148611
Depends on your personality. Are you a typical potion hoarder? If yes - screws. Otherwise Irako.

>> No.13148642

>>13148631
Rare destroyer recipe.

>Screws are farmable.
Top kek.

>> No.13148643

So is improvement just a cash shop ploy? All the good stuff needs more than one screw, and the quest will only give one a day. Given the limited quests to receive additional screws, upgrade progression is very limited unless you open that wallet.

>> No.13148645

>>13148635
I've gotten a few just doing my weeklies so far.

>> No.13148646

>>13148643
This game exists solely to make Kadokawa money, so yes.

>> No.13148649

Do you people really use Irako alone? I'm just 4 months old TTK so I only used two sets of Mamiya+Irako during E4 farm in Winter but with my nature of potion hoarder I doubt I will ever make use of them. When I tried using Irako alone, it only sparkled 3DDs and didn't affect Yukikaze which was biggest crit magnet so I was disappointed with it.

>>13148631
If screws are farmable, then Irako also is.

>> No.13148659

>>13148649
I use her to sparkle expeditions the moment I get one. Used mamiyas to remove fatigue when 3-2-A grinding too or some similar shit.

>> No.13148664

>>13148114
>>13148106
>time based RNG

Please enlighten me, I'm new.

>> No.13148673

>>13148664
>time-based RNG
>get CVL instead of Taihou

suffering

>> No.13148676

>sparkling ships
>scratch damage you need to bucket

Why is life so hard?

>> No.13148690

Which destroyer should I train for AA? Bucky or Hatsushimo?

>> No.13148696

>>13148690
You should get both for Pokédex

>> No.13148705

>>13148690
Fubuki. Superior equipment and superior stats.

>> No.13148708

>>13148690
Akiduki

>> No.13148712

>>13148708
Yeah, I wish

>> No.13148716

>>13148676
>Bucketing anything lower than minor damage
Never bucket anything still in green, you'll save buckets that way.

>> No.13148717

>>13148690
Both.

>> No.13148720

>>13148717
Getting one to 70 sounds painful enough. Why would you need two of them though?

>> No.13148729

>>13147377
I got new API link and everything was working fine, but the problem occured again right now. Anyone else have the same thing happening? Getting new API every 12hours is kinda silly.

>> No.13148749

>hoppou not droping ANYTHING now
No ships, no mochi, jack shit.

What the fuck?

I just want this bullshit to be over, do the devs do these mini events often or will I finally have time to grind my girls to kai ni if I manage to finish this.

>> No.13148756

>>13148749
Prepare for sakura petals hunt.

>> No.13148776

>>13148720
you need both to ~~beat the game~~

>> No.13148816

Why does my night plane have such a low activation chance? It almost never happens.

>> No.13148825

>>13148816
Put it on slot with 23 planes.

>> No.13148834

Can DMM ban if they suspect credit card fraud?
Long story short, I finally shekel'd out for more ship space using my credit card, but when a charge came through, my card company was concerned as it was listed as from Great Britain as only $0.08. I thought my card might've been compromised, so I had it cancelled. Another charge came in for about the exact amount I had bought from DMM, so I realized for foreign cards they must go GB or something, but by then my cards were voided. I had already spent the points and bought the ship space in game some hours before my credit card company contacted me. Now I'm concerned DMM'll think I was using a stolen card since the charge from that card won't go through. I put in a new card's info in case they try to re-charge me. Also, all the cards were in the same, my, name so they should think it's legit and just a mix-up on my end, right? R-Right?

If this pans out bad, I think the wiki should mention this could happen.

>> No.13148837

>>13148825
Pray tell what non carrier has such a hugeass plane slot?

>> No.13148846

>>13148816
Are you getting AS? Supposedly it helps to the proc rate.

>> No.13148849

Is Akitsumaru worth leveling much after getting her to k2?
Expedition slaving seems more beneficial.

>> No.13148855

>>13148837
There are two of them.

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>>13148837
Try to keep up with the times

>> No.13148863

>>13148834
If you get an email from DMM, then you can start worrying. Otherwise, you're probably fine. You might see a new charge pop up, but that kind of shit happens all the time with businesses and credit cards.

>> No.13148875

>>13148825
>>13148858
I remembered doing that for E4 hard. Worked like a charm.

>> No.13148882

>>13148858
Welp I gotta admit I never knew that. Yamashiro and Fusou aren't even on my "to upgrade" list. I was prioritizing the Tone sisters.

>> No.13148883

>>13148849
It helps to have a higher level Akitsumaru for easier event routing, but she'll level up pretty fast if you use her during expeditions all the time anyway.

>> No.13148901

So any speculation on Maya's k2 remodel level?
Mine's still at her kai level.

>> No.13148913

>>13148901
I'm getting her to lvl 70, can't bothered to go any higher as I need to level Choukai too.

>> No.13148928

>>13148901
70-80 with possible blueprint requirement.

>> No.13148933

Preview of Maya kai ni when?

>> No.13148943

>>13148933
Night of March 12th/13th.

>> No.13148946

>>13148933
During maintenance.

>> No.13148947

>>13148933
Lurk more

>> No.13149101
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>6 more hoppou runs
>1 cat before node
>0 mochi

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Again, I should level all the girls or stick first with the ones I like or the meta ones?

>> No.13149123

>>13149118
Love triumphs over all.

>> No.13149148

>>13149118
>stick first with the ones I like
This.

>> No.13149177

>>13149118
At least kai everyone, just in case they add a new kai sprite down the line.

>> No.13149200

>>13149118
Level up the ones you're going to keep.

>> No.13149206

>>13149123
>>13149148
>>13149177
おk~

>>13149200
b-But I want to collect all the 艦隊!

Also, I've read that leveling some duplicates like Chitose or Isuzu is good to get good equipment, I should do that since the start or wait a bit?

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>>13149118
Meta ones first if you're new. You won't understand why but just do it. I've played for 4 months and I speak from (relatively fresh) experience. Prime example would be that I had Kitakami since forever and didn't level her because I didn't like Shibafu art, now she's my highest level ship for reasons other TTKs can give you a page of.

You will understand the importance of meta ships when an event rolls around. Its debatable whether gear or base stats is more important but since the best gear often comes on the best ships this isn't really a big concern. There are outliers (20cm type 3s on Mikuma and Kinugasa) but strong kai/kai2s take precedence, especially those with decent combat stats and rare equips (Sendai comes to mind for her night recon plane).

When push comes to shove, these girls that you may not have liked will be the ones that create invaluable experiences with you by pulling through for you when you're in dire straits. They will save your ass while your resources are drained, morale gutted and sleep deprived at 3am in the morning with 1 day till the event ends. And you will, in time, come to love them.

>> No.13149221

>>13149206
>b-But I want to collect all the 艦隊!

Better ready 10万円 then.

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13149224

>>13149118
>>13149123
>>13149211
It also helps to just love meta ships from the beginning.

>> No.13149225

>>13149206
Don't bother at the start. However, unless Chitose/Chiyoda are your favorite CVL, it might be a good idea to keep them as AV until you unlock expedition Tokyo Express.

>> No.13149247

>>13149211
Good to know, guess now I need to learn who are the meta ships, aside of the CLTs.

>>13149221
I just want 1 of each, not marry them. As a Christian user of a Christian board, I'm against polygamy.

>>13149225
>it might be a good idea to keep them as AV until you unlock expedition Tokyo Express
Aye.

There is more newbie traps? FAQ in the wiki gives few advice about "dos and don'ts" for new players.

>> No.13149258

>>13149118
Meta ones first.

>> No.13149267

>>13149211
Your picture isn't related with things you said though

>> No.13149274

>>13149211
> I've played for 4 months
This explains your belletristik. Once you've played some more you'll understand that given the way RNG works stuff you use doesn't matter as much as your ability to stay frosty and keep going. Meta ships give some edge, but there's not a whole lot of difference between 50/50 and 40/60 odds.

>> No.13149288

>>13149267
My bad, I probably should've named the picture "YUKIKAZE FUCKS LOCAL ABYSSAL UP".

>> No.13149294

>>13149247
>meta ships
If I'm not wrong (someone correct me if I am):
Shigure, Yukikaze, Yuudachi, Ayanami, Ooyodo (failing that, Yuubari or Jintsuu), Tone, Chikuma, fast BBs (especially Kirishima and Bismarck), Kaga, Taihou. You'll probably have your fair share of CAs to choose from.

>> No.13149296

>>13149247
There are more ships than ship slots, unless you expand with money.

>> No.13149307 [DELETED] 

>opec approved
>10 EI on map

>> No.13149308

Currently upgrading 38cmKai with akashi

Anyone else, or 3bear cannons as usual?

>> No.13149310

>>13149294
Shigure isn't that good.

>> No.13149311

>>13149247
You will want to marry both of your Hotels and KTKM-sama, not counting waifu/daughteru.

>> No.13149312

>>13149247
Marrying aside, you'll have to buy ship slots if you want to collect all kanmusu because there are only 100 slots available for free.

>> No.13149314

>>13149310
Until you start luck boosting Yuudachi, Shigure is arguably better. Though with Skilled Lookouts that might not be required anymore.

>> No.13149317

>>13149310
She's right behind Yukikaze in stats but looks and sounds good.

>> No.13149321

>>13149294
I'll start with these and keep lurking then.

>>13149296
>>13149312
Well, fug. Guess I'll use the most boring ones to modernize then.

>>13149311
There is something wrong about marrying a DD?

>> No.13149328

>>13149247
>As a Christian user of a Christian board, I'm against polygamy.
I thought you guys also practised polygamy in the past.

>> No.13149329

>>13149321
Of course there is, you pedophile.

>> No.13149331

>>13149294
Shigure is old and busted. Either Fubuki or Ayanami is better depending on the situation.

Jintsu and Ooyodo are both equally important for different reasons. Yuubari is worse-than-DD-tier stats.

I'd add on:
Hiryuu, Junyou, Nagato, Fusou/Yamashiro, Ooi, Kitakami, Shimakaze, Myoukou

>> No.13149333

>>13149321
>There is something wrong about marrying a DD?
Quite the contrary. Forgive me if I worded that poorly.

>> No.13149348

>>13149331
>Shigure is old and busted. Either Fubuki or Ayanami is better depending on the situation.
I was about to say put Ayanami in the support fleet and Shigure in the sortieing fleet, but I figured you could do both if you have dupes. Ayanami it is then.

>Jintsu and Ooyodo are both equally important for different reasons. Yuubari is worse-than-DD-tier stats.
Jintsuu. I'll agree with dropping Yuubari though.

>Ooi, Kitakami
Other than CLTs he said, these 2 are obvious.

Rest seem legit except for Nagato.

>> No.13149356

>>13149331
Nagato is useless.

>> No.13149358

tools

>> No.13149365

>>13149348
Also just realised I forgot Akizuki.

>> No.13149368

>>13149331
Shimakaze is pointless nowaday, especially if you are already using Ayanami.

>> No.13149371

>>13149368
muh potential Kai 2
muh night battle stats

Other than that, well, yeah, pointless.

>> No.13149386

>>13149368
Well, if you max her luck, she's only second to Yuudachi.

>> No.13149391

>>13149386
Which is only 1 FP higher than Ayanami kai 2 in night battle.
Which makes her pretty pointless if you already have Ayanami.

>> No.13149395

>>13149348
Nagato is now the best option for triple gun cut-in setups since Haruna's accuracy was nerfed to shit by 46cms. This was a relevant setup in Midway E-6. Also her stats are pretty good.

>>13149368
Shimakaze is still relevant due light fleet maps where armor, hp and evasion are all things you should care about (on top of attack), and she still has the second highest night battle power. She is pretty annoying though so mine is still only level 87.

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>>13149368
>>13149371

Durable DDs with higher armor and health are the best candidates for DD-restriction maps

Bep and amatsukaze are very useful especially for 3-5 south

Of course, sometimes you just want to use cute DDs

>> No.13149412

>>13149395
>using triple gun cut-in setups ever
You don't use Bismarck I see.

Also pretty sure Nagato's accuracy was also nerfed to shit by 46cms.

>> No.13149414

Somebody pls make a new thread for us.

>> No.13149417
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Blasting out Amagi in PVP is always so entertaining.

>> No.13149431

>>13149412
Bismarck can only fill one slot. Also, her torpedo cut-in setup precludes artillery spotting while three-gun setups still allow day double attacks. Nagato does get some penalty from 46cms but it's only about half of what Haruna or Bismarck would get.

>> No.13149436

>>13149417
She looks like a corpse, it's the opposite of entertainment.

>> No.13149440

>>13149431
>Also, her torpedo cut-in setup precludes artillery spotting while three-gun setups still allow day double attacks.
I see you haven't used Bismarck or Prinz.

>> No.13149451

>>13149412
>nerfed to shit
I love how a tiny difference is now considered "nerfed to shit," even in Kongou's case.

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>>13149294
Shigure and Yukikaze will form the backbone of your DD cut in team for awhile.

It will be a long time before you have the spare resources to devote yourself to luck modernization. Please don't listen to the TTKs who ask you to ignore Shigure, you'll need her for the next event.

>>13149404
>high durability DDs to reduce BGK taiha chance
>offensive stats don't matter since as long as your DA triggers in night battle you can rape shit even with mutsuki tier firepower

I never really thought of it that way. At least I get a free conscience pass on using Amatsukaze now.

>> No.13149481

>>13149440
I see you're a kuso that uses mixed cutins, because it's either double torpedo double guns or GTFO on either of those.

>>13149451
For 3 46cms which gives almost guaranteed daytime cap and artillery spotting potential and max night attack, Kongou will take a ~-12% hit while Nagato will only suffer around -6%. In nightmare mode event maps every miss at the boss can be pretty catastrophic.

>> No.13149487

>>13149481
>using best setup
>kuso
You're just a retarded scrub who's unable to think for himself. There are cases where mixed cut-in is the way to go.

>> No.13149488

>>13149481
>-12%
Whoops, meant -18%.

>> No.13149495

>>13149463
>luck modernization
Just wondering, is there any way to achieve that other than Maruyu? And which ships should get priority?

>> No.13149496

>>13149463
>>It will be a long time before you have the spare resources to devote yourself to luck modernization
Not that anon, but this just means farming Maruyus doesn't it?

>> No.13149500

>>13149487
A cutin attack which will do ~15% more damage while failing to proc 40% of the time, or a double attack which activates 99% of the time, hmm hard decision.

>> No.13149503

>>13149431
Artillery spotting is worth sacrificing for an even stronger attack at night, especially if we're talking about surface combined fleet where daytime accuracy is shit.

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>>13149495

>> No.13149511

>>13149500
Yeah, you're a moron.
Mixed cut-in allows both double attack during day AND cut-in in night battle.

>> No.13149513

>>13149495
>And which ships should get priority?

Your shipfu.

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>>13149500
>this blatant moving of goalposts

>> No.13149523

>>13149503
Well if we're comparing Bismarck and Nagato cutins then we're already restricting it to non-combined fleet maps (such as Midway E-6) because Nagato is slow speed. I agree it's less of an issue in combined fleet. But in normal fleet challenge maps you need the artillery spotting to get your fleet delivered to the boss safely.

>> No.13149526

>>13149495
>is there any way to achieve that other than Maruyu?
Marriage adds 3-6 points. Otherwise, no.

>And which ships should get priority?
https://archive.moe/a/thread/121780046/#121786253
I made that post before I knew of the luck cap, though, so keep the luck cap in mind.

>> No.13149540

>>13149481
>using 3 46cms in the first place

>> No.13149545

>>13149523
Nope, even for normal fleet I'll still go with 2 gun 2 torp, especially if the enemy boss is extremely tanky like BB hime. 3 gun cut-in would do half the damage that torp cut-in would be able to do because of the damage cap. I'd say it's a very good trade-off. Not to mention luck cap for gun cut-ins is lower than that for cut-ins involving torps, so the former will be less likely to proc.

There's literally no reason to use gun cut-in over torp cut-in.

>> No.13149553

>>13149496
Yep, via LSC min recipe.

You'll get some from Yamato/Musashi/etc. attempts and event drops but if you want a steady stream of luck fodder you'll have to wander with Maruyu in mind into the hell that is LSC.

As a benchmark, Yuudachi k2 has 20 luck.
In order to get her to Shigure levels of luck (50) you'll need 30/1.6 = 18.75 = 19 Maruyus.

>> No.13149555

>>13149511
If you want artillery spotting so badly then why even bother with night cut-in? The damage on mixed is pretty shit.

>>13149540
Just wait until we get double senkan suiki next event.

>>13149545
Consider a 200 armor target and the fact that your battleship is fairly likely to be in chuuha against such boss fleets. The single 200% modifier isn't actually too bad.
Also no artillery spotting will decrease the chances of sinking the cannon fodder distraction targets during day.

>> No.13149562

>>13149553
Well fuck, I'm currently levelling Yuudachi to get k2 but I guess I'll have to switch over once I get that.

I still need to do LSC for everything except Taihou so hopefully I'll get some Maruyu from that.

>> No.13149573

>>13149555
Damage on mixed is clearly higher than damage from double attack (130% x2 vs 120% x2, plus with torpedo you have at least 12 more yasen fp than with DA set up) and cut-ins have better accuracy. Flag Prinz cut-ins reliably. If you gave her only torps, she would be deadweight during day. Stronger torpedo to finish off small fry before yasen doesn't hurt either. You could say none of those thins are huge - but they add up.

>> No.13149577
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I just started the game, already up to Level 5 but I can't clear 1-3. I keep getting sent South instead of North, what should I do? I'm also burning through ammo at a crazy rate.

Pic Related, my fleet for sorties. My other fleet I keep for expeditions (currently on 1-5)

>> No.13149580

>>13149577
Read the wiki. Pray to RNGesus.

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>>13149562
Doesn't really matter. Level everything, use whatever girl you like

Game isn't as hard and punishing as you'd expect

>> No.13149606

>>13149582

Hime can shoot torpedoes towards your shipgirls? That's mighty dangerous.

>> No.13149609

On the time-based RNG logs, should I use the recipes on the top table or the bottom table?

>> No.13149610

>>13149577
Took me 20 sorties on 1-3 before it sent me to the boss node. Sometimes the RNG just hates you.

>> No.13149615

>>13149545
>3 gun cut-in would do half the damage that torp cut-in would be able to do because of the damage cap.
Tenryuu with 3 gun cut-in does 300~400 damage on average against flag Ru. Don't underestimate gun cut-in.

>> No.13149617

>>13149573
Prinz with her eq:
2x SKC, FuMO - 182 yasen fp
2x 218 dmg

Prinz with mixed cut-in:
2x SKC, Quint with 3 stars or 53 cm - 194 fp
2x 252 dmg

>> No.13149621

>>13149606
Wtf don't give the devs ideas.

>> No.13149630
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>>13149606
Yes. I'm pretty sure it's coming.

Sextuple torps. Maybe Duodecuple for the combined fleet, it'll look like a macross scene

Next event, mark my words

>> No.13149642

>>13149630
DD princess on first node, CL demon on the second node, third node is either CV princess of BB princess. Tsu class everywhere. Inflated LOS requirements for hard difficulty.

Please, devs, make it happen.

>> No.13149660

>>13149642
We need CA Hime.

>> No.13149668

>>13149582
>"use whatever you like"
>hotels, highest fp bongou class, nagato
>chitochiyo
>ktkm, ooi, yuudachi
>highest luck sub for route security

you're not sounding very convincing there

>> No.13149678

>>13149668
i know right, god forbid someone likes Yamato, Musashi, Nagato, Kirishima, etc

>> No.13149680

>>13149668
You didn't mention lucky beaver and eq mule Ooyodo.
Actually, that image could be sarcastic because every single ship there was focused purely on highest performance.

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>>13149668
Would this be more convincing?

>> No.13149712

>>13149668
>>13149680
Bismarck, Snail, RJ, Hyahah, Shigure, Ayanami, 401, Jintsuu etc. are very competitive alternatives

What, you want to see maruyu and akitsumaru or something?

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>>13149717
Enjoy that chuuni with the little time you'll have.

>> No.13149729

>>13149702
You could literally use anyone last event, with E-5 having a soft requirement for Kitakami.

>> No.13149730
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Fuck 3-5. I sparkle my girls and this shit still happens 2/3 tries.

>> No.13149734

>>13149730
Standard.

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>>13149730
Why you dodgin Hoppou bro?

>> No.13149741

>>13149712
Any of them would be fine. What was in that image was purely top-performers, meaning your words attached to the image sounded worthless.

>> No.13149742

>>13149730
You need more love. And levels, you need levels to go south.

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>>13149730
Go aboob, bring akiduki for AA cut-in

Ignore pic related

>> No.13149749

>>13149680
pretty much, i was halfway done with typing and realized this was either a really badly constructed point or a lazy troll

>>13149712
sure, why not use them instead of the clearly uber tier shit you have there

oh wait you won't

>>13149702
>implying that's you

>> No.13149754

>>13149712
yeah you gotta clear with all lvl 1 mutsukis for your opinion to be valid xDD

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>>13149730
You need to believe in the kirakira.

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>>13149741
I'll toss in trophies and UMI NO SNIPA, just for you, next event

>> No.13149772

>>13149756
Okay. I'll be clearing next event with Akatsuki and Kiso.

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>>13149730

>>13147607

>> No.13149806

>>13149730
Your Poi has been ravaged by a big black abyssal torpedo. How does it makes you feel?

>> No.13149844

>>13149728
>with the little time you'll have
What is that supposed to mean?

>> No.13149867

>>13149743

Don't ignore Saberkaze, she needs love.

>> No.13149868

>>13147842
For me she finally dropped on 2-4A while I was powerleveling my CVs and Kongous.

Now she drops like candy.

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That fucking god.

How do the jap bastards stand this sort of rng. I switched back to 3-3 after 15 fucking runs where hoppou did not drop anything at all, (14 S, 1 A)

At least it's over.

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13149892

Fuck you, Hoppo.
All the fucking time.
ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

>> No.13149927

>>13149892
>kill Hoppou and all her friends
>complain that one of your girls got hurt in the process

>> No.13149933

>>13149927
I didn't kill her, she's there again every time I go back

>> No.13149940

So, I'm having problems with 2-1, CVs reck my girls, what's the best way to fight them?

AA seems useless and I only have a 1 CVL.

Are CVLs even god?

>> No.13149943

>>13149933
Kanji begs to disagree. The girl you see next time is her sister. That's why she tells you to go home - they don't want their family to shrink any further.

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>>13149940
Where's your Akagi?

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>>13149940
>Are CVLs even god?
Zuihou is the god of my heart.

>> No.13149953

>>13149940
AA is useless without AA cut-in.
CVLs are good but not early on. You need some fighters to fight fire with fire or you can simple brute force the map if you have a BB or couple of CAs.

>> No.13149964

>>13149940
Don't rush maps if you're not prepared yet, you'll just waste time and resources. Keep trying to construct what you need and level your current ships.

>> No.13149972

>>13149953
>CVLs are good
Not that guy, but really? I have Chiyoda and Junyou around 60 and they're both bigger crit magnets than Akagi. It's ruining my 4-3 DD leveling.

>> No.13149989

>>13149972
Basically only the kai nis are any good, and on top of that only Junyou k2 is really top-tier.

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>>13149972
My CVLs have had their levels boosted a lot thanks to 4-3 grinding, never really had any problems with them. The CLs I bring along to leach exp get crit more often.

>> No.13149997

>>13149950
>>13149953
I need a BB to unlock her quest. Guess I'll use my fuel to craft one instead of having fun.

>>13149952
I got a Junyou, her "magician/miko" design is original, but I don't really like her.

>>13149964
>Don't rush maps if you're not prepared yet
I got reck yesterday, so I've crafter the CVL today, as the instrument of my revenge. It didn't work.

Guess I'll grind some levels in 1-5 and craft a BB tomorrow.

And talking about 1-5, I got a cute submarine, I-58, her ballast are a bit too big for my taste tho.

Are SS good? Gimmicky at least?

>> No.13150000

>>13149972
They're only half as expensive compared to CVs and can do their work (clearing out trash, reaching damage soft cap for shelling) perfectly fine in most of cases. If Kaga's slots aren't needed, CVLs are more efficient.

>> No.13150005

>>13149997
SS are gimmick incarnate.

>> No.13150020

>>13150005
I use my SS as CLT substitutes, works fine.

>> No.13150025

>>13149993
>>13149989
>>13150000
I don't have a huge problem with them, they're cheap and fantastic for wrecking subs. I suppose I've probably been unlucky. It's always CL and CVL getting wrecked at 4-3.

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>>13149997
SS have the lowest resource consumption and are cheap and quick to repair, especially unremodeled.

They're very efficient in expeditions and on quite a few maps as well, due to their combat mechanics.

>> No.13150108

Is there an efficient way to go through the 12 World 4 bosses weekly? I don't imagine most of these maps being quickly done in a week without wasting a lot of buckets.

>> No.13150128

>>13150108
You should be already be able to smash 4-1 and 4-2 with little trouble.

>> No.13150131

Abyssfag already made his kusothread. He must've been pretty upset to see this thread take off.

>>13150000
Kaga isn't the only CV. Unryuu class can outdo CVLs in all but ASW for a minor increase in resources used.

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Fuck yeah.

Ro-chan grabbed the first kill (11 hours ago) but convincing compass fairies to let me get to boss node for the second time was huge pain so I changed the fleet. Shigure grabbed second kill, Shimakaze third, Shigure fourth and... pic related.
I love you, my little lolis.
All hail Kira Kira Church.

Overall 5-3 took around sixty buckets.

>> No.13150145

I keep getting BTFO in 2-4. What level am I supposed to be to finish it?

>> No.13150160

Does Tone wear a c-string?

>> No.13150162

>>13150160
No, she plays mahjong.

>> No.13150184

>>13150131
No, he is upset that we are not on page 1 and the touhou gang is winning in thread count.

He also notoriously views these threads on a toaster so he can't load more than 200 posts.

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>>13150145
pls respond

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>>13150202
That picture is ugly.

>> No.13150210

>>13150204
no bully

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>>13149504

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>>13150246

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>>13150252

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>>13150257

>> No.13150302

>>13150145
Level doesn't really matter.
Don't rush too hard to finish maps unless you really want to get to 3-2.
I brute forced it a long time ago with 4BB 2CV
But you can probably trade out 2BB or something for CA's.
The most important part is that all your ships are fully modernized apart from AA since that will take time.

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>>13150270

>> No.13150461

For Kaga, should I try to craft her or farm a stage?
If farm, is any stage better than others for dropping her?

>> No.13150478

Is it worth it to upgrade 12.7 and 15 cm guns through Akashi or just a waste of screws?

>> No.13150486

>>13150461
http://kancolle-db.net/

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>>13149668

>> No.13150493
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13150493

What's the significance of the slots with high plane counts?

>> No.13150500

>>13150493
waste more baux

>> No.13150506

>>13150493
Opening air phase.

>> No.13150513

Would you want Kancolle to release a 5th fleet or is that too much?

>> No.13150516

>>13150513
i'd rather have a 5th repair dock
or better yet 8 of them

>> No.13150529

>>13150506

So keeping the Reppuus in those slots increases the chance of Air Superiority?

>> No.13150549

>>13150529
>chance
Wiki or aircalc.net should be able to explain this better than me.

>> No.13150554

>>13150549
Worst part is this is literally one of the easiest mechanics in the game to figure out on your own...

>> No.13150577

>>13150549

I was looking at the wiki, saw the formula, and noped out because I haven't had to do anything like that since college calc (years and years ago).

But I get that the tl;dr version is, keep the Reppuus in the big slots for more fighter power.

>> No.13150581

What's a good number of destroyers to have total? I initially wanted to get all of them, but looks like with the 100 ship limit I'll have to weed some out.

>> No.13150587

>>13150577
>college calc
Did you go to a community college in Africa?

>> No.13150592

>>13150577
>saw the formula, and noped out
You literally put in numbers.

>> No.13150594

>>13150581
Buy slots.

But anyway, optimal number is ten Mutsukis for expeditions, all of elites and few other DDs you like. That would be ~30?

>> No.13150624

>>13150587
Yeah

>> No.13150627

次回「艦これ」稼働全サーバ群共通メンテナンスは【3/13(金曜日)】に実施予定です。同メンテに伴うアップデートでは、防空巡に生まれ変わった重巡洋艦娘の改二改装、新収録の「鈴谷」「熊野」を含む一部艦娘のホワイトデー期間限定ボイスの実装などを予定しています。お楽しみに!

>> No.13150628

>>13150587
>>13150592

You're right, I'm an idiot. I was thinking of summing a series, which the formula clearly does not involve.

>> No.13150632

Is there a "dress up" site for your admiral room?

>> No.13150637

>>13150627
Sweet, White Day voices, I'm hoping for some Akebono lines.

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Suzukuma things, maybe there will be Melon lines as well.

>> No.13150683

Shoukaku, Zuikaku, stop avoiding me.

>> No.13150702

Does anyone send support fleets for 5-5?

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>>13142734
>>13142804
Stay mad.

>> No.13150721

>>13150702
No nobody does that.

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>>13150632
http://www54.atpages.jp/kancollem/kcoheya.php

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I was clearing 6-2 and this ship dropped when I killed the boss! Is she rare?

>> No.13150746

>>13150743
pretty rare, yeah.

>> No.13150748

>>13150743
yes, one of the rarest ships in the game
congrats man

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>>13150743
I didn't realize Sakawa was dropping already. Feels a lot less special having her now.

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>>13150743
Why does Sakawa looks like she has seen some shit?

>> No.13150755

>>13150750
Her drop rate is abysmal, and she isn't even available in LSC.
S ranking 6-2 isn't really doable consistently either.

>> No.13150756

>>13150752
she's looking at you

>> No.13150763

>>13150752
she will always be waiting for you

>> No.13150764

>>13150752
Nagato and Eugen can tell you

>> No.13150774

>>13150764
Sakawa doesn't even have the right to say that, she saw less shit than either of them. Hell, the only shipgirl who has seen less shit than Sakawa is Miyuki and she died before the shit started happening.

>> No.13150805

>>13150752
Because she has seen some shit.

>> No.13150807

>>13150805
is funny cus ttk a shit

>> No.13150815

>>13149211
>>13149118
What are meta ships?

>> No.13150828

>>13150815
The 'good' ships everyone uses/talks about.

>> No.13150835

>>13150815
You should be able to deduce that.

Seriously, is the concept of lurking truly dead now?

>> No.13150837

>>13150815
anything with kai ni that isn't furutaka or kinugusa

>> No.13150842

>>13150837
Not really. The best BB, DD or CV don't have Kai Ni.

>> No.13150854

>>13150828
I see.

>>13150835
Sorry, I don't really have a concept of 'meta ships'.
To me they're just the ones that have above average stats and therefore perfectly logical to use in battles.
The ships I idle with and the ships I fight with aren't necessarily the same.

>> No.13150866

>>13150854
Simply reading the thread, particularly replies to post you quoted, would answer your question.

>> No.13150893

Newboi here, I can't tell, is there a lotto @ 1800 JST 3/8? I can't tell from the recent tweets.

>> No.13150895

>>13150842
kongous/fusous are pretty meta, and literally every non-yuki/shima DD of value has kai ni. correct on CVs though, kaga and taihou don't got it yet

>> No.13150912

>>13150895
Top3 DDs are Yukikaze, Yuudachi and Akizuki. Top BBs are Hotels.
I wouldn't call every single girl with above average stats a meta ship.

>> No.13150926

>>13149997
>I need a BB to unlock her quest
No you don't, you need a CV or CVL.

>> No.13151020
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>>13150895
Bongous aren't really meta because any time you can sortie Hotels in an event over them you will, barring resource issues. Are they used more commonly? Hell yes, but when push comes to shove in events you want that Hotel who can take it and dish it at the same time.
You're right on Taihou/Kaga being the absolute best CVs because CVs have been reppuu mules since forever - and even if you wanted an offensive CV you'd pick Taihou anyway.

I think "meta" as it is referred to here generally equates to "best in slot". A fully meta comp would be what

>>13149582

this TTK is using. He's running the absolute best options bar none in game for his chosen strat that fulfill the criteria for that map. Going down the list you have:

>Kirishima, highest FP outside of Hotels
>Double Hotel
>Nagato with better luck than Mutsu (slightly irrelevant but stats are stats)
>Chitose/Chiyoda which means he has good enough planes to not field Jun'you, prioritizing durability over a negligible (2 points) loss in AA

>KTKM, torpedo goddess of maximum overcrit
>Goya, sub with highest luck
>Yukikaze and her 60 luck with good combat stats
>Yuudachi, best firepower and night battle DD strength
>Ooi, lesbian extraordinaire (pic related)
>Ooyodo, 4 slots for LOS/night battle EQ mule and better stats than Katori/Yuubari for combat

>> No.13151026

>>13150837
And the 2 Hatsus

>> No.13151034

>>13151026
Hatsushimo survived some tough battles, and while she didn't survive the war, she didn't actually sink either.

Agree on Hatsuharu though.

>> No.13151047

>>13151020
Was there really only one cut-in?

>> No.13151058
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13151058

>4th LSC ever
>M-my body is ready
>See this
>MFW

>> No.13151065

>>13151058
Enjoy being resource-starved.

>> No.13151066

>>13151058
Oh shit nigga, nice.

>> No.13151074

>>13151058
Who are you quoting?

>> No.13151081

>>13151074
No one cares.

>> No.13151082
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>>13151058
Change your fleet name, Sidney.

>> No.13151089

>>13151082
No, I like the default. It's like a real navy.

>> No.13151099

Went to bed, so late reply.

>>13149555
>If you want artillery spotting so badly then why even bother with night cut-in? The damage on mixed is pretty shit.
Still better than double attack. And it procs fairly consistently on a high luck ship like Prinz Eugen so I don't see what's the issue here.

>Consider a 200 armor target and the fact that your battleship is fairly likely to be in chuuha against such boss fleets. The single 200% modifier isn't actually too bad.
People had no such qualms putting torp cut-in on CLTs, which are even more paper than Bismarck, whose own torp cut-in is CLT-tier. Heck, people have no such qualms using CLTs in the first place.

If your ship's chuuha'd you're not likely to beat the boss either way. I used gun cut-in on Nagato before, either the damage done was nowhere as good when she's chuuha'd, or the damage from gun cut-in was shit to begin with. Gun cut-ins also have a higher tendency to deal scratch than cut-ins with torps.

>Also no artillery spotting will decrease the chances of sinking the cannon fodder distraction targets during day.
The decreased chance is much smaller than the increased chance you get when you use a torp cut-in as compared to a gun cut-in or (in some cases) even a double attack.

>>13149615
It's pathetic compared to torp cut-in. Even if it's Tenryuu against a Ru flag I can deal like 50% extra damage as compared to gun cut-in.

>> No.13151104

What are your fleet names?

Mine are pretty bad. Just:
1 Fleet
2 Fleet
Red Fleet
Blue Fleet

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>>13151058
>lv 80
>4th LSC

>> No.13151116

>>13151108
Sorry, not all of us are no-life fags like you.

>> No.13151132

>>13151116
but his rank is super casual shit

>> No.13151142

>>13151132
that's probably an lsc only account played on the side for laughs and giggles

>> No.13151144

Help, I can't stop sinking ships I don't plan to use long term. Kagerou kai just went to the bottom of the ocean because I was planing to swap her with fubuki kai ni after I finish modernization.

>> No.13151147

>>13151104
第1艦隊
第2艦隊
第3艦隊
第4艦隊

>> No.13151148

>>13151142
poor excuse

>> No.13151182

>>13151142
>3 fleet
No shit

>> No.13151189

>>13151108
Where is the useless hotel?
No bismarck too. Step it up miracle yang.

>> No.13151190

>>13151148
excuse? what? that's not even me you faggot, playing 1 account is time consuming enough

>>13151182
>implying everyone has 4th fleet by level 27

>> No.13151211

I swear it's easier to build hotels than develop Type 0 Observation Seaplanes.

>> No.13151232

>>13151211
That's because it is.

>> No.13151351
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13151351

Finally done. I used about 30 buckets throughout the whole thing. Nice to finally clear 3-5 for once. I gave up last month.

>> No.13151401

I quit.

100 attempts for Taihou and nothing.

I'm done. Goodbye.

>> No.13151411

>>13151401
A friend of mine got his Taihou after 120+ tries.

You're almost there.

>> No.13151421

>>13151104
May as well go with:
Red Squadron
White Squadron
Blue Squadron
Yellow Squadron
For that real old-school Britannia rules the waves.

>> No.13151432

>>13151401
>>13151411
A friend of mine got his on his first LSC.

Blame RNGsus.

>> No.13151433

>>13150752
She's just autist.

>> No.13151449

3 weeks into this godforsaken placebo simulator and no Sendai. Got about 20 Myoukous and Nakas apiece.

At this rate I'll have fleet 3 by HQ level 60.

>> No.13151453

>>13151401
Bye.

>> No.13151488

>>13151401
I'm so grateful I got her on my tenth attempt.

>> No.13151547

What do the words underneath the greyed out friend fleet button say?

>> No.13151577

>>13151547
ー第2期実装予定ー
Planned to be implemented in the second phase.

>> No.13151594

I haven't gotten a single mochi since the day they started to drop on which I got 4.
Please help me, how do I get them to drop?

>> No.13151608
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>>13151594
Masturbate to Hoppou's mitten.

>> No.13151613

>>13151577
How long have we been in the "first phase"?

>> No.13151633

>>13151351
Did you sparkle all of them for each attempt? I'm getting my ass kicked there.

>> No.13151638

>>13151613
Since the beginning. There was an interview where Tanaka said Midway might be the end of the first phase, but we've blown right past that.

>> No.13151647

>>13151401
I'm somewhere around 225+ for Bismarck. You have no right to complain.

>> No.13151672

Are there any practical advantages of CVL over CV at all?

>> No.13151694

>>13151672
Other being able to attack subs, not really.

>> No.13151701

>>13151694
Branching rule.

>> No.13151706

>>13151672
Branching rules. ASW. Commonness. Lower resource consumption.

>> No.13151713

>>13151608

You mean with her mitten and put it back where you found it after finishing, right?

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>>13151713
I mean, you could just go the whole way and use her as your cock sock.

>> No.13151737

>>13151721

Only after you tell her what's in her mittens after she puts it on.

>> No.13151745

>>13151737
>implying that I wouldn't

>> No.13151756

>>13151721
I bet she likes it in the butt

>> No.13151802

>>13151756
I mean, there's this...
http://exhentai.org/g/775511/f206f44fd0/

>> No.13151820

>>13151633
Not him but sparkling is pretty much mandatory if you're going south route.

>> No.13151829

>>13151802
anon please.

>> No.13151833

>>13151721
Hoppou is a miracle.

>> No.13151835

Jesus fuck all you people. Being Hoppou is suffering.

>> No.13151839

>>13151833
top lol(i)

>> No.13151852

>>13151047
Feeding Maruyu to KTKM and keeping Ooi with DA is more efficient. The cut-in one's that Ooifag with his high luck Ooi IIRC.

>> No.13151853

http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/43711337.html

New Tanaka interview from latest Comptique magazine

Q. How's going about new foreign ships?

A. (I wonder if I should answer to this straightforwardly...)
Currently we're preparing BB class[-size] ship. This year, you'll see some new foreign ships from more than one country.
"Well, perhaps, a new BB may launch in spring" and so on.

Other paragraph.

* Type-D aka matsu-class DD and its variants.
* More supportive ships such as seaplane tender. (probably Nisshin and Mizuho)

Prince of Wales > launched 3 May 1939
Tirpitz > launched 1 April 1939
Richelieu > commissioned 1 April 1940
Dunkerque > commissioned 1 May 1937
Vittorio Veneto > commisioned 28 April 1940
Littorio > commisioned 6 May 1940

>> No.13151862

>>13151853
Allied ships never.

>> No.13151870

>>13151853
Fuck man, I just want to be able to get all the exclusive ships without events. Bigger LSC pool pl0x.

>> No.13151909

>>13151853
So what's with the list? Just speculation?

>> No.13151911

>>13151099
>or the damage from gun cut-in was shit to begin with.
At E-4 Nagato's cut-in did roughly the same damage as destroyer's 3xtorpedo cut-in against CV Hime, both had similar base night battle firepower — 170*0,8 before modifiers. High armor, ammo penalty, all noticeably reduce torpedo cut-in damage.
>It's pathetic compared to torp cut-in.
During 3-3 mochi grinding I played around with a lot of different set-ups. Torpedo cut-in is 300~500. Mixed was slightly better than normal double attack when it activated and worse than gun cut-in, no reason whatsoever to use it.

>> No.13151942

>>13151909
Just speculations from their comments.

>> No.13151996

Sheesh, did someone piss off the 3-5 RNG god or something? People having trouble earlier and now I can't even get past the first node of either north or south route.

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>>13151853
>* Type-D aka matsu-class DD and its variants.
>The IJN converted twelve destroyers to Kaiten mother ships to prepare for the Japanese mainland decisive battle.
Opening torpedo for DD soon.

>> No.13152040

>>13150145
I just finished it with 2BB,1BBV,2CVL,1CV at my fourth try. Seems like I got mochi at the boss node too.

>> No.13152043

>>13151853
So, a non german BB first and then most likely Tirpitz in the next event? Thats sounds too good to be true, I love battleships.

>> No.13152061

>>13152043
Tirpitz is almost certain to not be added unless the game is on life support.

>> No.13152064

>>13152043
Italian battleships when?

>> No.13152068

Anyone who says sparkling helps is full of shit. I bet the difference is so minor it's in the range of <10%. Considering the amount of time it takes to sparkle the whole fleet I say it's better to just go right back in and try again. Fuck 1-1.

>> No.13152071

>>13152061

I hope so. I want to get her so I can do nothing with her.

>> No.13152078

>>13152068
It's a % boost, so it scales with level. Contrary to the whole levels don't mean shit thing people always spout levels are very important for sparkles. Though sometimes RNG just doesn't give a fuck and fucks you in the ass even with a 99.9% dodge rate.

>> No.13152085

>>13152078
So what's the percentage? I want some hard numbers here so I can debate whether or not it's worth wasting my time anymore.

>> No.13152086

>>13152078
Isn't the cap like 87.5%?

>> No.13152090

>>13152085
Listed as 15% on wikiwiki.

>> No.13152102

>>13152086
That was just an example to display no matter how high the number, if it isn't 100% somethings going to fuck you up eventually.

>> No.13152109

>stack two radars on support fleet instead of one
>support fleet proceeds to damage only one ship
why.jpg

>>13152102
Well yeah.

>> No.13152111

I want a Umineko collab italian ship that looks like Beatrice.

>> No.13152123

>>13152034
I don't really think they will implement something that has anything to do with tokkoutai (kamikaze troops for you faggots). At least not now considering Japan's overall view of this kind of delicate matter.

>> No.13152126

>>13152068
Full sparkle. Grabbed second and third kill of 5-3 one after another. Sparkle started waning, I wasn't able to get another kill. Resparkled, got 4th kill. Had bad luck with targeting in next run and when sparkle started waning it only got worse. Resparkled to 78-85 again, grabbed final kill on first try.

If I resparkled to 85 after each run i would probably beat 5-3 in ~10 runs instead of 30-40.

>> No.13152127

>>13152034
>>13152123
It's not happening. The devs specifically said that suicide crafts are not being implemented. Check wikiwiki's devs' responses section, it should be there.

>> No.13152130

>>13152123
What are you talking about midget subs are part of the game for years now.

>> No.13152132

>>13152130
> midget subs
What about them?

>> No.13152145

>>13152123
>>13152127
Well, nobody want to see his girls die.

>> No.13152149

>>13152127
Yeah, that's what I thought.

>>13152130
You know what kaiten were, right?

>> No.13152160

>>13152132
I'm talking about potential but unlikely buff for DD using existing equipment.
>>13152149
Kaiten thing was a joke anon.

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13152183

Another noob question.

To make my girls sparkle I should send them alone to the first node of 1-1 or 1-5 3 or 4 times, right?

>> No.13152185

>>13152183
No.
Put the one you want to sparkle as a flagship. Add two meatshield DDs. Complete 1-1. Make sure your flagship gets MVP on every node. Repeat for every girl you want to sparkle.

>> No.13152188

>>13152183
1-1 both nodes with 2-3 disposable unequiped escorts.

>> No.13152192

>>13152188
>3
That's huge waste of time, choosing formation every time.

>> No.13152194

>>13152185
>>13152188
But I want to sparkle some crappy DDs to get that sweet 50% more fuel from expeditions, I can't guarantee the MVP for them, right?

>> No.13152200

>>13152194
Equip guns on the one you want to sparkle, remove guns from the meatshields. Will give her MVP most of the time.

>> No.13152201

>>13152194
Put guns on the flagship. Remove guns from everyone else.
Also, getting 50% bonus for anything except Tokyo Express is fucking useless, unless you're really desperate for buckets. And TE expeditions require high level DDs that are able to get MVP with no problems at all.

>> No.13152203

>>13152183
No. One node only will result in a morale loss. Two nodes for 2x MVP bonus. Three sorties should be enough AFAIR.

You can send them alone if you don't care about possible damage, but sortieing ~2 meat shields (level 1 DDs, scrap them later) with the girl you want to sparkle is recommended.

>> No.13152204

>>13152194
If it's DDs you intend to keep running expeditions with, modernize their attack power. You'll get mvp every time. Remember to strip the escort ship's weapons too.

>> No.13152207

Doing the 2-5 monthly with 4 DD. The LoS req is a joke, don't know why I trusted wiki. Had 73 LoS and sent to deadend. Trying with 77 now, not sure how I would get any more without losing double attacks. I'm already using the best radars and seaplanes.

>> No.13152211

>>13152194
You can do it without the shields too. Repair timers aren't long.

>> No.13152213

>>13152201
>>13152203
>>13152204
Oh, didn't thought about removing the weapons.

I was thinking in sparking them for expeditions 5 and 9, I do really need more fuel.

>> No.13152215

>>13152213
If your flagship DD is really shitty herself then there's no guarantee she'll get MVP since +4 attack isn't a big deal when the escort ships might land a lucky crit or torpedo, hence the modernization advice.

>> No.13152221

>>13152211
There's no reason not to use meatshields. 1-1 provides plenty of shitty DD drops. It's an endless cycle. You will never run short of meatshields.

>> No.13152224

>>13152215
Guess I can double with the modernization quests.

I was waiting to remodel before modernizations, but guess I can train a little fleet for expeditions.

>> No.13152227

>>13152224
>I was waiting to remodel before modernizations
Why?
I want to delete wiki mention about it.
You should always modernize your girls unless you can Kai them in a matter of an hour.

>> No.13152229

>>13152221
I just can't exploit girls like this and throw them afterwards.

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>>13152229

>> No.13152237

>>13152207
Recon stat requirement is level dependent.

>> No.13152242

>>13152207
Seaplanes have a bigger effect. Give your CA 2 seaplanes.

>> No.13152243

>>13152213
Expedition 9 is pretty long. Unless you need to go away/eat/sleep, it's not exactly the best way to farm fuel.
I'd advise getting to expedition 21 as soon as possible. It's more efficient. Expedition 38 is better, but you'll need 8 drum canisters and 240 level total.

>> No.13152244

>>13152236
Kuso TTK, pls.

>> No.13152245

>>13152236
source?

>> No.13152248

>>13152245
Fatalpulse. Also,

>not recognizing fatalpulse's art style immediately.

>> No.13152249

>>13152237
Yeah, I just thought 73 would be enough.

>>13152242
77 worked, the extra seaplane would get me to 79 though since my CA was T33 + Yamato plane.

>> No.13152253

>>13152130
Midget subs and Kaiten are very different things

>> No.13152255

>>13152244
I'm not a kuso if I show results.

>> No.13152256

>>13152243
>I'd advise getting to expedition 21 as soon as possible

I'm working on it. Mind I started this week, my strongest girls are around lvl 12.

>> No.13152257

>>13152249
T32* I mean.

>> No.13152263

>>13152236
>Maya looks nervous
>Tatsuta not giving two shits

Why would they even put up with this? Those two should be pretty headstrong and would speak out against shit like this.

>> No.13152270

>>13152245
Don't tell me you don't recognize this shitty sameface. How new are you?

>> No.13152449

Damn it, either I get crit to red at the 5-5 preboss or I survive it and get dead end. I'm at my last kill too.

Looks like it's going to be a long day.

>> No.13152452

What fleet is the most efficient for farming Cranes? Right now I'm using 1CAV2BB1CLT2CV with 8 fighters for AS+ and it's working decently, I reduced bauxite costs form 150-200 to 40-50 but I'm worried red T or bad targeting could screw me over (latter already happened once).

>> No.13152453
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13152453

Thank you based Z1.

>> No.13152470

>>13152249
>>13152207
Disregard all this, I didn't know there was a new eLoS formula that fucks you for being higher level.

>>13152237
I guess that is what you meant. I thought you were just saying the LoS req changes at the common scaling levels.

>> No.13152500

Are the 3 Sendai sisters + Ooyodo and Yuubari enough CLs for end game or should I train anyone else?

>> No.13152503

>>13152500
Get Kuma.

>> No.13152506

>>13152500
Katori for 1-5 when Yuubari is in the docks.

>> No.13152507

>>13152500
Yes, you probably won't need more than this.

>> No.13152511

>>13152506
What's the point of using Katori?

>> No.13152512

>>13152500
Consider Isuzu for ASW I guess. Although all 4-slot CLs perform about the same.

>>13152511
4 slots.

>> No.13152515

>>13152511
>>13152512
Katori doesn't fulfill CL branching rules anyways.

>> No.13152516

>>13152500
Naka and Sendai are meh compared to Jintsuu. Kuma and Nagara have better firepower and torpedo stats (though Naka has pretty high ASW stat, second only to Isuzu. By the way, Isuzu is great for dealing with subs).

>> No.13152519

>>13152512
>4 slots
Her stats are shit and she's not even a CL.

>> No.13152521

What's the recipe for quad oxygen torpedo? Wiki says 20/20/20/- but I don't understand the disclaimer about bauxite.

>> No.13152522

>>13152500
I only have Jintsuu, Sendai, Yuubari, Ooyodo, and 3 expedition Aganos (Noshiro where). No problem so far.

>> No.13152523

>>13152453
How many attempts?

>> No.13152525

>>13152515
She does. All (30-40) of my 1-5 clears after the event were Chitose/Fusou/Katori/Ooyodo and I always got to the boss.

>> No.13152527

Who thought it was a good idea to make Kuma and Nagara so good that they shit all over all the other CLs save Jintsuu?

>> No.13152528

>>13152521
Just farm KTKM.

>> No.13152531

>>13152519
She's still better at ASW than Isuzu and 1-5 doesn't really require CL.

>> No.13152532

>>13152528
Fuck that's a good idea.

>> No.13152533

>>13152519
So does Yuubari but people use her anyway.

>> No.13152534

>>13152531
But the question was about endgame. Who cares about 1-5.

>> No.13152537

>>13152533
Yuubari isn't that bad. Her only real flaw is the lack of seaplanes.
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/EliteCL

>> No.13152538

>>13152534
Medals and Daily/Weekly/Monthly quests. You'll be doing 1-5 forever.
Also, she might get some use in future branching events like Akashi or Akitsumaru. Seriously, get some foresight.

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>>13152523

>> No.13152543

>>13152538
rules*

>>13152540
Fuck you.

>> No.13152546

>>13152537
Which is a pretty massive flaw

>> No.13152549

>>13152546
Has it ever crossed your small mind that you have whole fleet and one ship doesn't has to do everything?

>> No.13152550

>>13152537
Which is a pretty big flaw. Her HP, armor and evasion is abyssmal as well, making her virtually useless outside of flagship position.

That said; Yes Katori does have really bad stats. But there are cases where you just need the equipment and you can put her in a flagship position. That and devs will probably put some bullshit branching in the future.

>> No.13152552

>>13152537
>>13152546
Let's not forget that Yuubari is made of wet toilet paper.

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>>13152043
But the Tirpitz dream is dead.

She was SUPPOSED to have a place on the page but Bismarck had to have a Drei and Eugen took up 2 spaces.

Poor Tirpitz would have to go to the 5th page of the book, away from her friends and probably next to that slut Ro500.

>> No.13152556

>>13152500
Isuzu is the superior light cruiser for performing warfare against your submarine.

She has bigger boobs than all of your CLs combined. She has twintails. If you tell Yuubari an all-semen diet is healthy, she'll look up nutrition facts about it and argue autistically all day. Ooyodo won't buy it unless a quest for swallowing gets added. Katori will call you naughty and punish you. Isuzu will believe anything you tell her like the farm animal she is.

>> No.13152564

>>13152525
CL aren't part of the branching rules at 1-5.

>> No.13152565

>>13152555
That triple Bismarck is a waste of slots.

>> No.13152567

>>13152549
>you have whole fleet
>doesn't has to

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>>13152540

>> No.13152571

Who do you find the top 6 in DD, CA, CL, CV and BB?

>> No.13152572

>>13152555
That quadruple Bismarck is so pointless.
>Hat has no stripes
>Hat has stripes now
>Hat has no stripes again
>No wait hat has stripes now for real

>> No.13152574

>>13152549
The best she can do in non-ASW maps is be an AA cut-in bitch or torpedo cut-in bitch.

>> No.13152576

So, about meta ships. Seems the ones with more luck/base luck are more meta ones, right?

Then why Ushio isn't meta? Is because she's too shy?

>> No.13152579

>>13152571
Since when did people care about stats so much?

>> No.13152580

>>13152576
Nope, higher night battle damage = more meta. She loses to Shigure and Yukikaze in that regard.

>> No.13152581

>>13152576
Her luck is too low, she's too unreliable. Rest of her stats are shit.

>> No.13152582

>>13152576
32 luck is kind of low when you juxtapose it with 40, 53 and 60 luck destroyers.

>> No.13152583

>>13152579
Since some autists started forcing "meta" crap in the threads lately and now every idiot wants to be cool.

>> No.13152591

>>13152571
DD: Yuudachi and Ayanami for daytime firepower and night time DA, Shigure and Yukikaze for CI, Akizuki and Fubuki for AA

CL: Jintsuu, Kuma and Nagara for firepower, Ooyodo and Yuubari for mules and ASW, Isuzu for bewbs

CA: 3/4 Myoukou sisters, 2 Tone sisters and Prinz Eugen

CV: Double Dragons, Kaga, Akagi, Taihou, Zuikaku

BB: There really are only 7 pure BBs

>> No.13152596

>>13152583
Phrases like elite DD have always been around, it's nothing new.

>> No.13152602

>>13152580
>>13152581
>>13152582
Difference doesn't seems that big, but guess every bit counts.

>>13152583
I'm just curious, I started recently and don't want to be fooled by lolis into wasting time and resources in them.

>> No.13152603

>>13152576
>meta
Your post doesn't make sense. You're asking which one is about the game rather than being part of the game. Are you trying to figure out which one has lines that break the fourth wall?

>> No.13152607

>>13152579
>top
It doesn't necessarily have something to do with stats.

>> No.13152609

>>13152596
Yeah but elites are already covered on wiki while "meta" looks like cool word and now everyone wants to use it despite not understanding it. Hopefully it dies off soon.
I know "meta" was used in the past but not too much and it was fine.

>> No.13152614

>>13152603
"Metagame" you double dweeb.

>> No.13152616

>>13152580
Night battle damage has nothing to do with being meta.

>> No.13152617

>>13152602
You're supposed to play this game for the cute girls.

>> No.13152622

>>13152602
Kuso.
You're precisely what I was talking about.

>> No.13152624

>>13152614
That's a noun, not an adjective, and it's impossible for destroyers to be part of the metagame because they're part of the game. Do you even know what a metagame is?

>> No.13152629

It's easier to point out the best CAs, BBs and CVs since they only really perform one role. DDs and CLs are a lot more versatile so discussions like the top 6 elite DDs crop up now and again. It's healthy discussion and I don't see why you people are getting all pissy about it.

>> No.13152640

>>13152602
Your kusoness is beyond help. Spending time with girls you like is not wasting time.

>> No.13152644

>>13152617
>>13152640
I want, but I can't stop minmaxing in every game. I'll level up the cute girls later, carrying them with the strong shoulders of their onee-sama.

>>13152622
Wasting time instead of learning makes you the kuso.
>>13152624
The meaning of words change, you aspie. Blame he internet.

>> No.13152651

>>13152644
Your earlier errors make it obvious English is, at best, your third language. You have no idea what people are saying when they use slang like that, and you try to handwave away your misunderstandings by pretending words don't have meanings.

>> No.13152662

>>13152651
>English is, at best, your third language
What kind of pleb have it as native one? Also, my bad English doesn't nullify my argument.

The word "metagame" has been used commonly as "best strategy for a game" since years.

>> No.13152663

>>13152651
This EOP is mad as HELL.
Only a butthurt EOP would criticize someone for speaking three languages.
Pls remove yourself from the gene pool. Oh wait, you already did!

>> No.13152671

>>13152644
I was like you when I just started using the "meta" girls anywhere I went. Recently I found that I wasted a lot of time playing with the "meta" girls instead of spending time with girls I like. The stat differences are too marginal and rarely matter, except high luck DDs like Yukikaze, the irreplacable carrier Kaga and the lesbian CLTs. I'm telling you this since you said you are pretty new and might want to reconsider.

>> No.13152678

FUCK YOU DST

>> No.13152679

>>13152671
It only matters in x-5 maps and events.

>> No.13152681

>>13152662
Your argument is about how English works, so your inability to understand it does nullify your argument.

Your second line there contradicts the original post you made about destroyers.

>> No.13152682

>>13152679
And only some of them. You could clear Fall with anything.

>> No.13152684

>>13152591
Which Myoukou do you avoid, or well, put on the backburner?
Can't tell just by k2 stats on the wiki

>> No.13152686

>>13152681
Stop living in bumfuckistan.

>> No.13152692

>>13152684
Doesn't matter. Wiki has all the stats. Look at them.
He only said 3/4 because original post requested precisely 6 ships.

>> No.13152704

>>13152671
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to be the most tryhard TTK, I'll play with the cute girls too. But I don't want to reach mid game and notice that I neglected the best (gameplay wise) girls.

>>13152681
For a native speaker your reading comprehension is terrible.

>> No.13152706

Is it possible to use multiple repair teams on a ship? Or will it only allow you to use them once?

>> No.13152709

>>13152706
You can stack 3 on a ship. I did that in last year's spring E5, on a level 30+ Shoukaku.

>> No.13152714

>>13152709
>3
multiple*
And I only stacked 2 on Shoukaku. Oops.

>> No.13152716

>>13152684
>>13152692
Yep. All 4 Myoukous are practically indistinguishable from each other like the Kongous unless you're really anal about firepower.

>> No.13152735

>>13152716
If one want to be that selective, you take Myoukou for the Cut-in capability and Haguro for being the CA with the highest damage potential at night. DJ Ash is very slightly better than Nachoes.

>> No.13152746

>>13152735
They all have the same firepower at night except Ashigara.

>> No.13152748

>>13152716
Haruna is considerably cuter compared to her sisters while the Myoukous don't really have anyone standing out.

>> No.13152749

>>13152735
Actually Haguro and Myoukou have the same yasen fp but M has higher potential yasen fp because you can abuse her higher luck by giving her Quint(s). Nachi is better at AA than her sisters but Maya KaI Ni soon. But really, any CA other than Furutaka, Aoba, Mogami class is great.

>>13152746
Nope, Nachi is below Ashigara.

>> No.13152751

>>13152746
Ah crap ignore that. Didn't notice that nachi shares Haguro's torpedo stat, making her the worst of her sisters.

>> No.13152758

>>13152748
Haruna doesn't have any character defining feature though, I don't get why she's so popular. She's just there.

>> No.13152764

>>13152749
I wouldn't count on 32 luck for cutins. And don't bring Maruyu into this because you and I both know there are at least 5 other ships that should be prioritized before Myoukou.

>> No.13152770

>>13152764
We have Skilled Lookouts now and all CAs have free spot for random eq.

>> No.13152771

>>13152749
>cut-ins
disgusting

>> No.13152776

>>13152764
You can rephrase his word then. Myoukou has higher Maruyu-priority compared to her sisters.

>> No.13152777

>>13152758
Her high luck makes a triple gun cut-in setup for certain super high armor bosses a possibility.

>> No.13152778

>>13152758
She's a good girl. Also daijoubu.

>> No.13152787

>>13152764
You don't use cut-ins with your KTKM?

>> No.13152788

>>13152770
Skilled lookouts only have a chance to activate like the searchlight right?

>> No.13152793

>>13152787
KTKM is in that aforementioned "at least 5 other girls." In fact, she's on top of the list.

>> No.13152798

>>13152787
only morons do

>> No.13152804

>>13152787
Before luck modernization you'd have to be pretty ballsy to rely on 32 luck for cutins instead of a 99% DA.

>> No.13152806

>>13152788
Searchlight always activates.

>> No.13152811

>>13152804
But that's not always enough for event bosses.

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>>13152776
Not sure should I max it or just stay here.

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Fuck yeah, 5-4 halfway done. Took 40-50 runs.

>>13152778
I think most of the girls are good girls.

>>13152777
Yeah, she reaches the cap for gun cut-in chance.

>>13152788
Yeah. From what I understood, they boost the chance by up to 20% (but can't exceed cap), so imo there are three possibilities:
1) ~20% - Skilled Lookouts activation, cut-in
2) remaining cut-in chance - CI but no SL animation
3) no cut-in

>>13152804
I think 30-32 luck alone is mostly viable for people who lack best ships and have to rely on KTKM one-shotting the boss.

>>13152804
Not 99%.

>> No.13152819

>>13152812
50 is enough.

>> No.13152820

>>13152811
You have Shigure and Yukikaze for reliable CIs. Relying on KTKM to do it is just stupid.

>> No.13152822

>>13152812
Just 10 away, I'd say max her since you took the trouble of feeding her to that point.

>> No.13152829

>>13152820
It's not always combined fleet.

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>>13152818
>I think most of the girls are good girls.
Some are nicer than others.

>> No.13152845

>>13152758
Her history is what made me like her. Living longer than all her sisters and dieing like she did is sad.

>> No.13152881

>>13152818
So basically Skilled lookout is just a flat 20% buff to cut-in chance?

>> No.13152918

>>13152881
That's how it seemed to work on flag Poi in Nip test linked some threads back and on my Ayanami yesterday when I was clearing 5-3.

>> No.13152945

>>13152881
And that ~15% buff Do Not stack over the luck cap.

>> No.13152954

Who is your favorite CVL?

>> No.13152958

>>13152954
Drunkard.

>> No.13152959

>>13152954
The only bobship without a kai2.

>> No.13152964
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>>13152954
Sherlock Holmes.

>> No.13152966

>>13152954
RJ

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>>13152954
Chitose or Jun'you. Both have very nice assets.

>> No.13152968

>>13152822
Okay.She is my shipfu after all.Although its still 65-80%cut-in chance when 70 luck.

>> No.13152972

>>13152954
RJ

>> No.13152985

>>13152954
Hiyou the cutest, but I also like Shouhou.

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>>13152954

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>>13152954

>> No.13153012
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I'm so glad I don't have to 5-3 again.

>> No.13153013

>>13152918
Poi's luck seems a little too low to take advantage of this. Ayanami on the other hand.. She could be the new cut in queen.

>> No.13153038

>>13152818
>2) remaining cut-in chance - CI but no SL animation
I equipped my 32 luck DD shipfu with 2 torpedoes and Skilled Lookouts and I never noticed such thing. It's either blink -> cut-in or single attack. I believe it's a flat cut-in rate bonus and the new visual effect activates always when your unit performs a cut-in. I didn't make an analysis, but this "~20%" seems to be true.

>> No.13153041

Can someone advise me on best equip setups for some of the lighter ships?
I'm happy with BB, CV/CVL and CLT, but can't decide what to put on others.

So far on CA I've been equipping them similar to BB. On DD and CL, I have generally put 2x torp and an AA gun.

>>13152954
Ryuuhou and Hiyou are cutest.

>> No.13153046

TTK that doesn't fully understand elos here. For 3-5 should the normal equipment set up for DDs/CL work for 3-5?

>> No.13153047

>>13153038
Not even once? Maybe I didn't notice then, I have fever since few days ago but I'm pretty sure most of the time there was no blink before her CI. Would be nice if someone else confirmed but if you're right, sorry for saying something misleading.

>> No.13153048

>>13153046
Slap a few radars on them

>> No.13153050

>>13153038
Forgot to mention that this bonus (cut-in chance up) seems to be always active and, as a result, quite reliable, i.e. it isn't limited by some kind of crow's nest activation chance.

>> No.13153052

>>13153046
Yes.

>> No.13153055
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13153055

This new batch is going to take a while

>> No.13153057

>>13153055
I can understand Sendai for the yasen plane, but the dragons? With that high remodel level their planes don't seem worth it.

>> No.13153070

>>13153057
Quests brah

>> No.13153075

>>13153070
Oh, I thought those were duplicates, never mind if they aren't.

>> No.13153084

>>13153057
There's nothing else to level, really

3bears are really rare, I have enough depth charges and torps. It's either dragons of fusous, really

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>>13153057
Dragons are worth farming.

>> No.13153088

>>13153050
I'll start recording my PvP matches, but I'm 99% sure it was as described in my previous post, I'm always paying extra attention to her. It's possible that it just didn't trigger for me, but the probability is quite low, I believe. I obtained this item 5 or 6 days ago and equipped it immediately.

>> No.13153090

>>13153088
Meant to quote >>13153047

>> No.13153095
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13153095

Is 5-3 really supposed to be hard? I got here last night and already have 3 kills. I had more trouble with 3-2.

>> No.13153096

Do radars help with opening airstrike if I'm fatigue grinding 3-2?

>> No.13153100

>>13153086
What for? Just for slightly better support fleet equips? I don't see any other use for them.

>> No.13153108

>>13153086
that's not yours

>> No.13153111

>>13153096
I don't think anything affects the opening airstrike other than having AS/AS+, not even formation nor engagement, but they sure help along with double line during shelling phase even at 0 condition.

>> No.13153115

>>13153100
when slightly better equips is the only thing left to work for, you bet

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>>13153108
Yea that image is not mine.
But I'm also working on it I've made 5th Souryu k2 for 99 Egusa.

>> No.13153131

>>13153119
i wish i had the patience to do 3-2-A non stop
but muh ranks

>> No.13153153

>>13153131
Just bring Souryu as a flagship on 5-4 fleet.
3CV, CA, fast BB ,CAV w/4 drum. 350-60 AS, 70-100 baux per run.

>> No.13153162

>>13153153
>5-4
>with real ships
n-no thank you, too hard for me

>> No.13153233

Whose dick do I have to suck to get this last mochi. I keep getting snails. It's like LSC all over again.

>> No.13153244
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>>13153233
You can start with mine.

>> No.13153245

>>13153233
>wasting time with the mochi bullshit
Why

>> No.13153248

>>13153233
Your shipfu's.

>> No.13153253

>>13153233
Why bother with 10, Maya's probably going to have one of those crow's nests anyway. All that matters is the furniture fairy.

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>>13153233
(´・ω・`)

>> No.13153259

>>13153253
Having more is always better.

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>>13153253
>Maya
That's not how you spell Choukai.

>> No.13153267

>>13153086
I'm already tired with makigumo farms, farming k2 cvs will drive me crazy

>> No.13153273

>>13153267
You should be able to Kai Ni one in ~16 hours.

>> No.13153280

>>13153267
5-4 flagship is strong

>> No.13153292

>>13149101
I recognize that number counter font. It's from Breath of Fire 5, the D-Gauge.

>> No.13153323

>>13153273
I want to play this game, not work it

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>>13153323

>> No.13153368

>>13153330
Truer words have never been written.

>> No.13153375

>>13153330
Looks a bit like suicide note.

>> No.13153383

Are FBBs overweight with 2x 41cm guns?

>> No.13153391

>>13153383
no, only with 3+ 46cm

>> No.13153398

>>13153383
Yes.

>> No.13153400

>>13153391
Good to know, thanks.

>> No.13153401

>>13153383
Maybe

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>>13153391
>>13153398
>>13153401
Why

>> No.13153427
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good feel

>> No.13153433
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>>13153383
Just a bit.

>> No.13153444

When should I start stockpiling for the next event?

>> No.13153447
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13153447

I've spent more resources to get 2 5-5 kills this month than I did on E-5. Re is being extra cruel this month.

>> No.13153448

>>13153444
Ideally never. I quit focusing on stockpiling and moved to actually playing the game. Beat the last 2 events on regen.

>> No.13153458

>>13153444
After last event end

>> No.13153473

>>13153095
RNG is just on your side at the moment.

>> No.13153478

>>13153444
It really depends on your playstyle (aka how much stuff you still have to do).

We have events every 3 months or so but Devs usually announce the event's date a month before, so you could start stockpiling then.

Since I'm pretty much done with the game, I only do some light grinding and stockpile for events since my luck with drops can be pretty bad sometimes.

>> No.13153479

>>13153444
Beginning of April.

>> No.13153493

>>13153444
Now

>> No.13153498

>>13153444
When the servers go down for update.

>> No.13153502

>>13153444
>stockpiling for events
People still do this?

>> No.13153503

>>13153444
After mochi hunt ends and you get all the Kai Nis you wanted ready.

>> No.13153515

>>13153502
After last one? Only an idiot wouldn't stockpile.

>> No.13153519

Next event is months away.

>> No.13153527

>>13153515
You had to stockpile for the last event?

>> No.13153535

>>13153527
I only did half of E6 because I didn't stockpile.

>> No.13153552

>>13153527
Last event took me like 60k, that's double amount of the regan cap, so I won't mind call it stockpile.

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Let's do our best this week as well!

>> No.13153634

>>13153613
fuck off ooyodo i just want my quests

>> No.13153646

>>13153634
Too bad for you Ooyodo will be your quest tracker forever.

>> No.13153676

>>13153646
Yodo is love, Yodo is life.

>> No.13153751

>>13153676
Yodo makes a perfect wife.

>> No.13153757

>>13153751
Kai ni when?

>> No.13153782

>>13153757
Sometime around Midway, they said all the nameships would get a Kai ni, so at least the answer is *eventually*

>> No.13153809

>>13153782
>they said all the nameships would get a Kai ni
Source please.

>> No.13153827

>>13153782
This sounds too good to be true.

>> No.13153859

>>13153782
Except Takao. And any other namesakes you actually care about.

>> No.13153868

>>13153859
>tfw no Akagi Kai Ni

>> No.13153882
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>>13153859
Maybe someday

>> No.13153898

What should I do when I'm finally free of subgenociding for Mochis?

I've been playing for about 4 weeks now and I've cleared up to 3-4 and 4-3, while I have a decent collection of most non-LSC ships (most of them, however, are still low level).

So far I'm planning on grinding a few Kai2s and crafting decent equipment, then trying to clear a bit further.

Any recommendations what equip to aim for first during crafting?

>> No.13153905

>>13153898
>Any recommendations what equip to aim for first during crafting?
Every answer will be different.

>> No.13153907

>>13153882
Just imagine, CLT Kuma with 74 fp, 120 torp, 84 aa, 44 hp, 75 armor, 84 evasion (keeping her advantage in stats over Kiso).

>> No.13153913

>>13153859
Kagerou Kai Ni will be Konishi's greatest work and redeem all of his past blunders. Just you wait.

>> No.13153928

>>13153782
I'm having a hard time imagining Mutsuki Kai 2. What would she receive? Actually average stats? Lower fuel/ammo consumption? Built-in drum?

>> No.13153930

>>13153907
>(keeping her advantage in stats over Kiso).
Best not to assume that's the case. Sendai went from being straight up better than her sisters in Kai form to about the same.

>> No.13153934

>>13153907
I'd be happy even if there wasn't any change in stats as long as she gets updated art.

>> No.13153946

>>13153898
Reppuu

>> No.13154019

>>13153433
Doesn't make sense to give 41cms on kongs as default equipment then, really

Silly devs

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>>13153898
Depends on what you have and what you need, some essentials include:

>A basic ASW set enough for 1 fleet, enough for 4-3 DD/CL grinding and others
>Reppuu, at least 8 to fill 2 carriers worth (this is really important)
>Blue planes in general to replace the crappy defaults
>Radars if you don't have any
>At least 4 of Sanshiki and Tekkoudan
>46cms until you feel you have enough

>> No.13154053

I just love that I couldn't clear the 3 transport ship with 10 2-3 runs. Bck to the usual business I see.

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>>13153898
Shill out for (at least) 6 sonars and 6 depth charges, and then 20/60/10/100 four times until you get 7-8 Reppusu. Unless you don't have a Saiun, in which case it's 20/60/10/110

>> No.13154076

>>13154069
>four times
a day. My bad

>> No.13154085

>>13154019
They only give one 41cm to them. We need tests for 41 + 35.6.

>> No.13154097

>>13154069
Poor Kongou can't get any respect.

>> No.13154476

Kai Ni are reserved for ships that are either really popular to sell even more merch of them or for unpopular ships in an attempt to create more popular ones. To sell merch of.

>> No.13154486

>>13154476
thanks for your input, schlomo

>> No.13154503
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>>13152954
Hiyou a best. Kai ni when.

>> No.13154526

>>13154503
Never.

>> No.13154528

>>13153444
After you finished LSC.

>> No.13154536

>>13154528
What about Maruyu farming?

>> No.13154544

>>13154503
Bob is the only artist who just goes crazy Kai II'ing every ship he's ever drawn Hiyou might be a while.

>> No.13154552

>>13154503
As long as they don't change dat ass.

>> No.13154574

>>13154528
Which is never >>13154536

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>>13154528
Assuming next spring event is the same time as last year's (mid April) I have 1 month and a week to get Hotels/Bisko and grind them up while not running my res into the ground.

>> No.13154607

Finally done with this mochi nonsense. Got the first nine just doing my routine weekly and monthly business and then spent hours today trying for #10 only to finally get two in one run. RNG's a funny guy.

>> No.13154680
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fuck the devs

>> No.13154725

>>13154680
The RNG is mad today for some reason.

>> No.13154785
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5-4 done, both sisters acquired.
I was pretty lucky with Zuikaku, took only seven runs.

>> No.13154791

>>13154785
you are never done with 5-4

>> No.13154793

>>13154785
now do it 20-25 times everyday nerd

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>>13154793
I FINALLY GOT HER!

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>>13154791
I need to take a break, did over 50 sorties there today, it ate a lot of resources. Currently sitting at pic related and I have to keep in mind Hoppou wants to meet with me few more times before 13th.

>>13154793
After next event.

>>13154807
Whom? Zuizui? Are you >>13154680?

>> No.13154830

>>13154807
I didn't know Akari was in Kancolle

>> No.13154838

>>13154476
No. It all comes down if they can get a hold of the artist who did the base forms again. Just take a look at the new ships released and the artists who did them and you will know who are the possible candidated for Kai Ni.

>> No.13154843

>>13154838
That's silly, why not just redraw the base form and the kai ni form then? Some ships could also really use new art.

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>>13154830

>> No.13154883
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fuck CLs so hard i hate this shit

>> No.13154886

>>13154883
fucking NIGGER devs

>> No.13154902

How does /jp/ clear weekly quest 1? Grinding 1-1 sparkle runs?

>> No.13154908

>>13154902
I only clear it during events. Or in last weeks case hunting for mochi.

>> No.13154919

>>13154838
I'm sure some of the artists are busy, but if Kadokawa really wants to I'm sure they can get in touch with any of them.
Yadokari and Ayaki hadn't added anything new in a while and they have some of the more recent kai2s.

>> No.13154928

>>13154902
Eventually I just get it from O-lel all day

>> No.13154944
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That's a lot.

>> No.13154952

>>13154902
I just take it easy and it's usually done by Wednesday or Thursday just from doing the other quests. Sometimes I might do the world 2 daily to help it along.

>> No.13155007

>>13154944
Highest I've gotten was KTKM obliterating a destroyer for 7XX damage

>> No.13155017

>>13155007
That's a lot.

>> No.13155019

I got so mad after using my last fuel and steel reserves (370/130/340/130) on ship construction and getting only a light cruiser (Isuzu) back I sent her on a suicide mission right after spawning.

God damn it. I wanted at least a Heavy Cruiser....

>> No.13155032

>>13155019
Turn in your uniform. You don't deserve to be a TTK.

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>>13154886
>red T
xDDDDDDDDDDD

>> No.13155060

>>13155054
It's your own goddamn fault for not bringing a Saiun on those subs.

>> No.13155067

>>13155060
i actually went to check if i could
i can't
life sucks

>> No.13155106

>>13155054
>Ro instead of Yuu

Slut got what she deserved.

>> No.13155111

>>13155106
yeah, her armor is way too high, no orange protection, which is probably overridden by red T anyway
her torp is good though

>> No.13155147

Alright /jp/, I want to get a fucking sub, crafting has never helped, and probably never will.

I have 3 levels before I hit 80, what are my chances of farming one at 1-5 C vs 3-3-A

I assume the trollsubs at 1-5 will make things hard, but what loadouts can I utilize to minimize that? (BBV, CVL, 2DD)

>> No.13155151

>>13155147
2 CVs, 2BBs, 2 CAs.

>> No.13155156

>>13155147
Damn, RNG must really hate you since I've gotten so many Goyas and Imuyas.

>> No.13155175

Places to grind my subs besides 2-3 and 3-2?

>> No.13155180

>>13155175
5-4 mid

>> No.13155210

>>13155175
1-5 is a really good place. They never even take damage so you can run them nonstop. Just retreat after 3 battles.

>> No.13155222

>>13155175
6-1 like devs intended

>> No.13155279

What happens if you sink a married ship? Do you lose the ring?

>> No.13155287

>>13155007
Just yesterday Ayanami did 801 damage to a DD in 1-1 at night.

>> No.13155296

>>13155287
That's a lot.

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>>13155279
What do you think.

>> No.13155305

>>13155299
It acts a damage control and the level is reset to 99.

>> No.13155306

>>13155175
5-3 first node.

My record is 15 in a row before getting the east node.

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>>13155279
You can't sink married ships, that's why rings cost so much money. They come back like with a super damecon.

>> No.13155312

>>13155287
>1-1
>night

What

>> No.13155322

>>13155312
I just wanted to S rank the boss node, that was all.

>> No.13155340
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5-3 is over. That was pretty easy. No idea why people said it would be hard.

>> No.13155355

>>13155340
It's a night battle map, you have to be retarded to not see why it's hard for some people.

>> No.13155367

>>13155355
Is it not normal for people to have night battle equipment by that point? You'll be sent back occasionally but it didn't seem that bad to me. I ran it over the course of yesterday and today. The only annoying part was the resource expenditure. I used about 15-20 buckets over the course of the whole thing. Which isn't that bad.

>> No.13155376

>>13155367
It doesn't matter if you bring night battle equips. In fact, you're downright retarded if you bring a searchlight. Nothing stops double attacks outside of a really bad roll, and even if a cut in fails it could still easily send you home due to FP + torp calculations. I got lucky when I was clearing 5-3 and didn't use much either, but that sure doesn't make the map not hard.

>> No.13155382

>>13155376
I cleared it all 5 times with a search light on my married Kongou.

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