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Why the hate on Windows?

>> No.13138557

>>13138535
Because of the underage linuxfags.

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truth to be told, windows isn't that bad anymore if you're not too anal about your privacy, but have you not noticed the huge update fails this winter with windows 8? they made huge mistakes and now they want to sweep win8 under the carpet by releasing win10 (probably just the same with a new name) as fast as possible. and the biggest problem of windows it that big security issues are first infromed only to the NSA and that the newer windows reject systematically some 3'rd party products, like some updates ago you couldn't boot a LINUX distribution as a second OS under Win8. look how most countries ban the use of windows in governing institution, because the NSA can pretty much say "nope, i don't want the PCs from country XY to boot anymore and send me all their privat informations".

>> No.13138611

>>13138578
>probably just the same with a new name
Let me rephrase your whole post for you :
"I don't know what I'm talking about but Microsoft is so evil everything they do must be bad!"

Ergo :
>underage linuxfags

>> No.13138971

I need an OS tan for win 10 9926

>> No.13139040

XP-tan was basically proto-Sanae.

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Don't post the cowtits slut anymore please and upgrade you're tastes.

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XP is beatiful.

Best OS ever made. You shall be forever missed.

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>>13139897
No, XP is a slut that will do anything for more memory.

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TROUBLE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYlBuAvSzXk

>> No.13140127

>>13139897
That is neither 98 nor 2k.

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>>13139040

This. Zun obviously had a thing for the tans.

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I'm glad there's been a resurgence in interest in OS-tans.

>> No.13140193

>>13140136
>all generic designs were invented by a lone drunk japanese man

>> No.13140199

>>13138535
>Why the hate on Windows?

Because people still cannot use it properly, and people try to use it for purposes it was not designed for.

>> No.13140258

>>13140193

ZUN is married and happy and happily drink booze while drawing little girls being drunk and fighting with kamehamehas and all of that in the company of his loving wife. When YOU are just a sad neet with no hope.

Who is a drunk lonely man now ?

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>> No.13140324 [DELETED] 

>>13140258
zun

>> No.13140358

every other version of windows is shit. The ones in between are good.

95 - shitty, not all that bad
98 - good
2000/ME - total shit
XP - good
vista - total shit
7 - breddy gud
8 - shit

All the OS-tans are super cuties though. Especially 3.1-tan

>> No.13140426

>>13140258
>Married
>Happy
top lel

>> No.13140437

>>13138611
>>13138557
Good goy.

>> No.13140496

>>13140358
Please.

Basically every basic windows release is shit. When they got patched up and with service packs, they all became good within their limits. Win95 OSR2, Win98 SE, Win2k SP4, WinXP SP3, Vista SP2 and 7 SP1 are all good/were good in their times.

Yes, even Vista. If you have time/interest, try it on decent hardware.

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>>13140496
Actually Windows 7 was pretty good even on Beta, but otherwise you are correct.

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>>13140496
WinXP SP2 was better, SP3 added much more bloat to force people to upgrade their system to vista.

>>13140629
Because it was just a patched vista and released after multicore / 2Gb+ of RAM became the norm.
Also hardware manufacturers had some years to write decent drivers and port them to 64bit.

>> No.13140808

>>13140358
>he thinks 2k and me are the same

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Long time no see OSfriends, since when there was no OS-tan thread?

On a side-note, I started to play Hyperdimension Neptunia and I am still wondering why they can do exactly the same thing with OS-tans instead of console-tans/inc.-tans, would you play it something like that? And who would be the protag.?

>>13138971
Keep waiting for the actual release, maybe Microsoft Japan will do the same they did with Ai&Yuu Madobe

>> No.13148981

>>13140258
I wonder whether ZUN is good in bed.

>> No.13149090

>>13138535
You can run most windows applications on Linux now so there's no reason to use it, unless you want a poorly optimized pile of shit without any privacy.

>> No.13149385

>>13149090
>>>/g/ , go back to yout isolation board, please.

>> No.13149409

>>13149090
>amazon search bar
Fight me.

>> No.13149438

>>13140144
I want her to crush my face with her ass while cruely laughing at me.

>> No.13149688

>>13138557
Linux on the desktop is good for basically three things:
1) Ricing (what children and Gentoo users use Linux for)
2) Developing Linux (what the pros use Linux for)
3) Processing large text files (what I use Linux for)

And I can do (3) on Windows with Cygwin. For everything else, Windows wins hands down.

>>13144283
I actually realized just now after looking closer that IE actually has NoScript and NoSquint (the only two extensions I really need) basically built in (as security zones and a registry key for global page zoom). Goodbye Firefox, hello Inori-chan!

>> No.13149744

>>13149688
You have zero idea how either of those two scripts, which is a given looking at the first half of your post. Let it be known that your average /jp/sie has much more technical knowledge than your average /g/entooman. Otaku culture and all.

>> No.13149858

>>13149744
Oh, I'm well aware that we're a pretty technical crowd. I do have my obligatory CS degree, after all. But how important shell scripting is to you really is a function of what you're doing. If you're ricing, developing Linux, or deploying websites, sure you'll spend a lot of time in bash. But I prefer to spend my time writing software. Plus, you can access all of .NET from PowerShell (and the guts of Windows too, if you're so inclined), and PowerShell also has better pipelining than bash. So don't knock something until you've really given it a chance.

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>>13138535
Some people don't want to buy American software, as US software is generally bugged by their Gestapo/Stasi. Imagine you are a lawyer or a doctor, and your computer immediately sends all information of your clienst and patients to the regime of a declining Empire which isn't remotely able to keep its information secret, with everything ending up on Wikileaks eventually. Let us not discuss industrial espionage. Paying for that shit reminds me on the Jews who were made to pay for the Kristallnacht...

>> No.13151797

Because anyone who knows anything about computers knows it's a piece of shit, if it weren't because most programs are made for it nobody in his right mind would touch it.

>> No.13151837

>>13149931
There's no way to hide. Everything we do on a computer is being recorded by some intelligence agency. The American CIA is just the most incompetent of the various intelligence agencies and so everyone knows that they're being bugged when they're in America or using American products. They're not the only ones doing it, they're just the only ones bad enough to get caught.

>> No.13151875

>>13138535
Because it does not respect my freedoms.

Cue this guy >>13138557 in three, two, one.

>> No.13151905

>>13138535
It's a pane to install.

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>> No.13153247

>>13139897
We'll never be separated, XP-tan. They can pit as many viruses and hack all the gibsons they want, but we'll always be together.

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>>13138535

>> No.13156114

what happened to windows 9?

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>>13156114
Hadn't you heard?
Seven ate nine.

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>> No.13164841

>>13156114
it was too strong

>> No.13165251

>>13139040
But Inori is better slut than XP

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>>13156114
Java happened.

>> No.13165319

>>13140808
They were both shit, though.

>> No.13166391

>>13165251
Since when having big qualities makes you a slut?
And what about Inori?

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>> No.13167625

>>13139897
XP is godugly, I always enabled the classic theme. Win 8 desktop mode looks much better.

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>>13156114
>>13165261
You know, this is fucking bullshit

Windows is fully aware that good Windows OS come every other OS
As in, Windows ME = shit, Windows XP = good, Windows Vista = shit, Windows 7 = good (enough), Windows 8 = shit...

So they completely skipped 9 to dive right into the next shit OS

Windows 9 would've been the best OS we've seen in years, but we can't have nice things

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>>13167661

I have found the best way to make Windows 10 useable is to remove as many parts as possible.

>> No.13167690

>>13167661
>>13156114
Actually it was probably because 3rd party programmers were idiots and wrote version checks for Windows 9* to include 95 and 98.

>> No.13167705

>>13167682
What parts? The only thing bother me about it is the metro apps that are installed by default, which I uninstall or unpin from the start. Once you're in desktop mode it's not like anything is keeping you from doing what you want. I actually do use metro apps sometimes., like I use the standard Metro PDF reader. It's handy because it lets you tile.

>> No.13167724

>>13167705

Uninstall most apps. Disable one drive and Cortana. Block the start menu local and web search bar with firewall (they want to make it very difficult to not send a local search across the web when you use that bar)

>> No.13167740

>>13167724
I don't get any web results when I use the metro search.

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>>13167740

What build are you, 9926?

Did you do anything else to tweak it? I accidentally killed updates by screwing with services but fixed it later on.

>> No.13168182 [DELETED] 

I want to use Linux but my Japanese games don't run well on it, and dual booting seems like a hassle because I'd have a system that is capable of everything and another one which is capable of almost everything so I would just use the former...

My hope is to stay on 7 until I can properly virtualize Windows and run games, which doesn't seem too far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI

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>>13138535
FreeBSD much better.

>> No.13170144

>>13169807

Netbsd is a NERD!

>> No.13170209

>>13168182
You could always do that without dual booting. Why are you bothering with Linux if you don't know the first thing about proper computing?

>> No.13170794

>>13167971
>Did you do anything else to tweak it?
Just when I installed it I opted out of some things like user data collection, dunno if that included search bar results.

>What build are you, 9926?
Can’t check right now, but the last stable I guess, it got updated yesterday night.

>> No.13172904 [DELETED] 

>>13170209
Well, I meant by using vfio which is a relatively recent technology. May I ask you to explain what you mean with "you could always do that"? I know about type 1 hypervisors but graphics performance has always been pretty bad as far as I know.

>> No.13173614

>>13170144
NetBSD is a toaster lover.

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>> No.13173654

>>13170144
>>13173614
Why do Japs love NetBSD so much?

>> No.13173754

but you can throw an apple through a window

>> No.13173763

>>13173644
Why would I want a windows who can't be impregnated as easily?

>> No.13176587

>>13173654
>Why do Japs love NetBSD so much?
FreeBSD you mean?
Because it's really big part of history.
Take a look ordinal FreeBSD Japanese page:
http://www.freebsd.org/ja/
and Japan user group:
http://www.jp.freebsd.org/
Is it smell like PC-98, isn't it?

>> No.13177735

When I was a little shota I was forced to use old Macs from the 80s that the local university discarded. It started a raging fire of anti-Apple hatred in my heart that still burns to this very day.

>> No.13177763

>>13177735
But those had the best games at the time! Maybe you were too young for them.

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i've never forgotten you xp...

>> No.13177766

>>13177763
the only game we played was PAWS, a typing learning game

I didn't like being forced to do it so I refused to learn the home keys

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would /jp/ fuck a cloud?

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I don't get azures new look.

>> No.13177796

>>13177787
I don't get why a cloud computing platform needs a -tan

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silverlight is really slutty and now shes a cloud. whats going on here!?

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>>13177773

I bet she has been

back doored

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cloudy day....

>> No.13177936

I'll be completely honest. Im only lurking iTT for cute animu pics

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>>13177936

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vert is microsoft related, r-right?

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big storage!!!!!

>> No.13177954

Linux is superior.

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>>13177954

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>> No.13178022

>>13177970
Well of course Nanami doesn't like Linux. Her "guide to installing Windows 7" was to buy a computer that had it preinstalled, and she couldn't even do that right. She's pretty much tech-illiterate. Besides, Nanami is fine, it's her little sisters that made me switch.

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>> No.13178819

>>13177764
This is extremely depressing. Why are you doing this? Why would you do that?

>> No.13178856

>>13177764
XP lives on as a banshee on virtual drive.

Never forget.

>> No.13179260

>>13177773
She has a big storage.

>> No.13179353

>>13177950
She's XBOX-tan I suppose, but not an actual OS-Tan.

Seeing how she looks similar to XP-tan with blonde hair, she is probably related to the Windows girls.

10/10 would play a game like Hyperdimension Neptunia with OS-Tans instead of console/makers

>> No.13179355

>>13177936
Not alone, that's the true purpose of this thread actually

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>>13138535
Do I have to say it again?

>> No.13182795

>>13182788
Hate the programmer, don't hate the program!

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>>13167971
>>13170794
I just checked and looks like it’s disabled in settings and it‘s literally just one switch.

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>> No.13185609

>>13185567
Slut
Sluuuuuut!

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>>13185609

Inori is a good girl!

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>>13185618
All the OS-tans are good girls

>> No.13185842

>>13185618
And sure you think Sanae is a good girl too

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>>13185842

>> No.13187448

Windows is poor for development because of its terrible disk performance. Try using git with any repo that isn't small.

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>>13140437

>> No.13187563

>>13187472
Your leddit image has no power on /jp/, kike.

>> No.13188052

>>13187563
It's not from "leddit". It's from 4chan just for cancer like you.

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>>13187563

Fuck off

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>>13148981

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>> No.13189954

>>13167690
This

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RIP Inori

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2897725/windows-10s-speedy-new-project-spartan-browser-will-ditch-internet-explorer-name.html

>> No.13193459

>>13188065
Hey shitskin

>> No.13193462

>>13193420
What are they thinking? Spartan has the connotation of being crude, bare, and basic.

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http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/22/7872509/microsoft-windows-10-internet-explorer-spartan-browsers

>> No.13193591

>>13193420
>Google’s Chrome is also morphing from just a browser to a complete desktop-like working environment with the web at its center.
Please god don't follow suit, Mozilla, no matter how much money you're getting from them. I can't use w3m for everything.

>> No.13193597

>>13193462
That's as in Spartan decor, think of it like Spartan soldier.

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>> No.13201147

>>13193559
>We recognize some enterprises have legacy web sites that use older technologies designed only for Internet Explorer, such as custom ActiveX controls and Browser Helper Objects

It's ironic that the only reason they're keeping IE is because legacy compatibility.
Inori Aizawa should be drawn as a milf or something.

>> No.13201179

>>13188052
>>13188065
These always feel more leddit than 4chan to me.

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>> No.13214743

>>13177764
what's with the panda?

that said, the end of support for XP has hit China the hardest...

>tfw no easy-access ghost-nets for russian hackers to use anymore

>> No.13214790

>>13214743
It's a Chinese image, so probably some Chinese meme.

>> No.13214814

>>13167690
Why not just name it Windows Nine then.

>> No.13214939

>>13193597
>think of it like Spartan soldier.

dead?

>> No.13215060

>>13214814
Or Windows Vista XP Reloaded Millennium Edition. Anyway, it’s Windows, it’s never had sensible versioning.

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>>13138535
Windows is not free software and does not respect my software freedoms. I strongly believe in free software and whenever possible, I try to use it instead of non-free software. A large part of it is that I don't believe programs can be properly audited and checked to make sure it is free of bugs, both intentional and unintentional. You might argue, "when's the last time you have personally audited a piece of software?" and I would tell you never, but this brings me to another important benefit of free software, and that is the entire community benefits from it: if only a single person audits some software, then the entire community benefits because they now have a greater assurance that it is free from bugs than if it was entirely proprietary. It goes beyond that though, when things are free as in freedom, they can adapt and change long after their original authors are gone, so free programs tend to last longer than their proprietary counterparts. The community also benefits from forking: if you don't like the way a certain piece of software works, you can simply use their source code to form your own project. This reduces duplication of effort and benefits the community because now they have more choice over what software they use, even those members who cannot themselves program. There's a lot of other reasons I believe in free software, but many of them are philosophical and thus probably not terribly convincing to someone new to the idea, but can basically be summed up as the idea that a) it's not nice to your fellow humans to not let them build upon the effort you have expended, as you have built on the effort of other people, and b) that as a software user I should have the right to make and distribute changes to the software I use.

>> No.13221031

>>13220948
>Windows is not free software and does not respect my software freedoms.
Stopped reading there. I know where this is going Mr. Freedom.

>> No.13221037

>>13221031
That is exactly where I stopped reading too.

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>> No.13223865

>>13220948
>and b) that as a software user I should have the right to make and distribute changes to the software I use.
Started reading here. I know where this is ending Mr. Anarchy.

>> No.13223870

>>13220948
I like this pasta.
Basically you just want free shit because you're a fucking neet.

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>> No.13229635

>>13223870
free as in freedom, not beer
he forgot to say libre instead

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>> No.13235404

>>13214743
Windows XP Service Pack 1 and 1a were retired on October 10, 2006

>> No.13236836

Are the mascot versions of Windows limited or can you install them on top of normal Windows?

>> No.13237454

>>13236836
Nanami was never an official mascot (and neither are those Windows 8 girls). You could either get the themes preinstalled on a limited run Madobe PC from a variety of vendors, or buy a "DSP edition" from Dospara which was basically retail Windows with a theme disc. Later on there were four Nanami wallpapers that you could download one of after purchasing WHS, and also a Nanami theme that came bundled on a disc with a Microsoft Touch Mouse. When Windows 8 came out, they released a disc with all of the Nanami graphics, promotions, and themes.

So to answer your question, the themes were always separate from Windows. But because of the way Windows saves text in user theme files (always in the system character set, even though the format supports UTF-7 encoded strings), they won't work for you unless you're using a Japanese locale.

>> No.13237594

>>13237454
>(and neither are those Windows 8 girls)

I already knew Nanami wasn't official, but what about the 8 twins?

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>>13237594
No, I'm pretty sure the twins were also created by vendors to sell computers (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Microsoft probably had to check off the promotion for business reasons (wouldn't want Windows bundled with R18 twins doujins), but the vendors "own" the characters.

The official tans (i.e. the ones dreamt up by someone at Microsoft and not their partners) are Inori and Hikaru (IE and Silverlight, not made in Japan), Claudia (Azure, designed by the same artist as Nanami and the twins and modeled after a Microsoft Japan employee), and the five Bing girls (pic related).

>> No.13239594

I do not use software that does not respect my freedoms.

Freedom 0: The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose

Freedom 1: The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

Freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor.

Freedom 3: The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others. By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.

>> No.13239637

>>13239594
But you're free to reverse engineer any program.

>> No.13240045

I am the most useless artfag drawfag type ever. IE I can't into any art.

But if anyone were to try a 10 preview tan I would think pieces of her being shut off and a big magnifying glass like inspector gadget has.

>>13239154

Me on top right.

>> No.13240257

>>13239637
Technically, reverse-engineering a licensed program is still illegal. Really, though, you have to be autistic to care if Notepad is optimized and want to change it if its not.

>> No.13240271

>>13240257
It's about the right to be able to, not just that you usually do the thing.

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>> No.13249110

>>13177839
Holy fucking shit, I must have fapped dozens of times to the bukkake version of that pic back in 2004.

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Anybody else try the new spartan browser on build 10049?

>> No.13257952

Would it be appreciated if OS-tans were drawn of Linuxes and BSDs?

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>>13254684
Tried it, can't even scroll the page because the metro won't even support my mouseclit. It's never a problem in Firefox.
Like it's just another new crap from MS.
And I bet it's as vulnerable as IE.

>>13257952
>Would it be appreciated if OS-tans were drawn of Linuxes and BSDs?
More like
>Would it be deprecated if OS-tans were drawn of Linuxes and BSDs?

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>>13257952

BSDs are NERDS!

>> No.13259097

>>13258964
>there are already BSD-tans

I'm pleasantly surprised. :3

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>> No.13264370

>>13155910
It is normal that I want to fuck my own OS?

>> No.13264399

>>13149688
>IE actually has NoScript and NoSquint
>... so that it can spy on you on M$ behalf while preventing surveillance on the part of others

top kek son,
>2015
>trusting megacons

>> No.13264474

>>13257952
>>13258964
>>13259097
>BSD
Anon it's about 100 posts later...
>>13169807
>>13170144
>>13173614
>>13173654
>>13176587

>> No.13264638

>>13264474
How did I miss that?

>the further through the thread I get, the faster I scroll

I think I figured out how I missed that. I need to lurk moar and post less.

>> No.13268041

Anyone noticed the new typefaces (Yu Gothic and Yu Mincho) in Windows 10? They're not really hinted for ClearType like Meiryo is, but they should look good at high DPI or in print. They also have several weights, unlike MS Gothic and MS Mincho.

>>13264399
I'm pretty sure Microsoft isn't interested in pissing off all of its corporate customers by spying on them. Though, I admit Windows 10 is looking pretty dodgy. In the past you could count on retail Windows being a stripped down version of enterprise Windows, but this time it looks like it will be enterprise Windows that strips all of the advertising bullshit out of retail Windows. Hopefully Microsoft will still offer a professional version at retail that's like the enterprise version for small businesses.

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>> No.13274197

>>13230483
This book was so great.

>> No.13274347

>>13156114
Maybe they counted 8.1 as 9

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>>13274197

Poor XP was trolled.

>> No.13274422

>>13274353
It was a pretty mean prank.

>> No.13274538

>>13274353
>futa
Poor anon was trolled.

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>>13274538

Don't know why they always do that with 2k.

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meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-tan is my waifu! ^^

>> No.13274601

>>13274588

Little ME a cute.

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>>13274601

ME a cute!

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>> No.13286699

Rise from the dead!

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>> No.13290311

>>13288257
And she can't even blame anyone but herself

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>> No.13299918

>>13138578
Every other version of windows is awful. 8 was bound to be a failure.

>> No.13301401

>>13138535
you can just ask /g
and they will give you as many reasons as possible

>> No.13301412

>>13214743
Chinese windows piracy software

>> No.13301448

I'm currently using Xp.

>> No.13301817

>>13301448
Say hi to the old XP-tan then

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What is /jp/s favorite tan?

XP?

>> No.13310450

>>13138535

Never ending argument between tech autism and basic functionality. I wish that windows did not deteriorate so quickly and I've had problems in the past with updates as well as new ui like w8. I've mostly used 95, xp and 7 and I haven't had major problems. At the worst I had to reinstall once, which takes a long time but solved my problem.

>> No.13310474

>>13310450
Deteriorate?

>> No.13310494

>>13310474

Windows needs frequent reinstalling to work as quickly as it does after fresh install.

>> No.13310499

>>13310494
Oh. Yuck.
Well, I've been needing to finally switch over to 64-bit for ages now...

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>>13310494
Placebo, once you reinstall all software and updates it becomes only slightly faster than before.
XP/2k at least don't have useless bloat like the automated repair which never works.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HraV7glgwJE

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>>13139867
Why are there two?

And more important, which do I stick it in?

>> No.13324906

>>13323606
Because windows 8 and 8.1, I think.

And you stick it in both, simultaneously.

>> No.13324954

>>13323606

They symbolise the dual functionality of Win8 as a desktop and a tablet OS.

>>13324906

They both came along long before 8.1.

>> No.13325183

About that...
Windows 10-tan when?

>> No.13325359

microsoft endorsing an "official" -tan is sort of a mixed bag

on one hand you don't get competing designs which stalls the development of the character(poor vista was never fully realized)

but on the other, you get a sterilized character that doesn't reflect what the OS is like so it ends up more like a mascot instead of a anthropomorphication

>> No.13325377

>>13325359
>but on the other, you get a sterilized character that doesn't reflect what the OS is like so it ends up more like a mascot instead of a anthropomorphication

Well, there is no way you can say that for sure

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>>13325183

Yes and also a spartan tan.

>> No.13326910

>>13323606
Desktop and metro

>>13325377
XP was still supported when 7 was released, Nanami should be much fatter than XP-tan

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>> No.13329158

>>13326214
Spartan-tan is still Inori

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mambo mambo leo mambo le!
mambo mambo leo mambo le!

>> No.13330904

>not using the best os

http://moebuntu.web.fc2.com/home_eng.html

>> No.13333528

>>13323606
Vert, stop stealing other people's sisters.

>> No.13333620

>>13184067
What phone is that?

>> No.13333624

>>13330837
just kill me

>> No.13334039

>>13333528
What if the OS-Tans are just Vert's stolen(and brainwashed) imoutos ?

>> No.13334544

>>13330904
>best os
>*buntu
Anon please...
https://www.freebsd.org/ja/

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>all these people saying "Linux"

The proper term is actually GNU.

The GNU project started developing the GNU OS in about '83. They made many central components. The kernel was missing. In about '92 Linux (a kernel) came around and once it was licensed under the GNU license people started using GNU with Linux. This means the OS is GNU, with Linux as the kernel.

If you think the kernel is more central or important than other parts of an OS, you're frankly mistaken. In terms of size, X.Org is huge as well, and it's very central too, yet you won't hear people call the operating system X.Org, or mention X.Org in its name. This is because it's only one component, although it does many things including talking to hardware. Similarly, the kernel is just one component that talks to hardware and does some other important things. But none of these are more important than the tasks of GNU components such as GCC (the compiler used to build everything), Glibc (the C library which virtually *all* software on the system links against), GRUB (the bootloader that loads the kernel in first place), GNU Bash (the login shell), GNU coreutils/findutils/diffutils/grep/sed/awk, and many other such tools which make the system POSIX compliant and are necessary for most software to run on the operating system at all.

And if you say "but those components can be replaced", then obviously X.Org and Linux can also be replaced. Wayland based systems are on the way, and there is already e.g. Debian GNU/kFreeBSD which is the Debian GNU system running on the FreeBSD project's kernel.

To summarize, in terms of project/culture GNU is the project and operating system; and in terms of technical significance and irreplaceability of components, GNU is definitely not any less important than Linux.

Therefore, it makes most sense to say GNU, not Linux. Or say GNU/Linux if you want to be pedantic.

>> No.13340145

>>13340132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8

>> No.13340155

>>13340132
I run http://landley.net/aboriginal/about.html , you insensitive clod.

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Windows is bad because it's not free software.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/

The difference might not be all that obvious to an average user, but in the grand scheme of things it's extremely important for the software to be truly free, i.e. serve the users, and not serve the developers who just want to make money off of the users.

For a recent prime example of the dangers of non-free software, see e.g.:
>>13336595

If you can, it would be most beneficial for the future for you to use a fully free GNU distribution such as gNewSense or Trisquel, though it's also fine to settle for something like Debian or Fedora.

It might also prove beneficial to you, because these systems have much much lower risk of being targeted by surveillance organizations such as the NSA and GCHQ.

Hopefully we will eventually have a super high-secure GNU system, namely Guix System Distribution, which uses purely functional package management as well as reproducible builds, all bootstrapped with a fixed point (see "trusting trust"), such that we can be 100% sure of source-code to binary-program correspondence.

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>>13340155
>http://landley.net/aboriginal/about.html
>linux, busybox, uClibc, binutils, gcc, make, and bash
But anon, 4/7 of those are GNU software. (The last 4.)
Maybe non-GNU make is supported, in which case it could be 3/7. Could eventually replace the other three too, but good luck running any actual software on that system.

>>13340145
>calling someone a nerd on /jp/
Yes I am!

>> No.13340256

>>13340176
>But anon, 4/7 of those are GNU software. (The last 4.)
>Maybe non-GNU make is supported, in which case it could be 3/7. Could eventually replace the other three too, but good luck running any actual software on that system.
The catch is that that is what is required to build the system if you're on a standard GNU/Linux setup. Once built, the system contains no GNU components and is self-hosting.

>> No.13340344

Windows isn't powerful enough for my tastes.

The only thing it has going for it is software exclusivity, but that's rendered moot thanks to WINE and virtual machines.

>> No.13340374

>>13340256
As I said, have fun trying to run any actual software on that.

I'd rather use Debian GNU/Hurd than that thing.

Linux is a monolithic kernel, meaning one gigantic one point of failure. If I'll work on taking out either of GNU or Linux out of GNU/Linux, I'd try to take out Linux.

>> No.13340398

>>13340344
You mean rendered 4chan?

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>>13340374
>As I said, have fun trying to run any actual software on that.

Like this?

>> No.13340526

>>13340426
Be honest; how often do you face problems because some software works better with glibc and uclibs, requires GNU coreutils, or else?

But sure, if it werks for your purposes then feel free to use a shitty crippled system. Hell, I used OpenBSD on a desktop for a year or two.

>> No.13340569

>>13340526
>Be honest; how often do you face problems because some software works better with glibc and uclibs, requires GNU coreutils, or else?
I don't, because I don't actually run that for lack of a proper package manager. The only point I wanted to make is that your application of the GNU copypasta is relevant only when applied to specific systems, and that you shouldn't generalize it to "everybody who says Linux" because there exists a Linux that is not GNU. I run GNU/Linux, you probably do as well, but you shouldn't use overly broad generalities.

I might have used Android as my example instead, since it likewise doesn't have any GNU components and is sometimes referred to (correctly) as Linux, but your rebuttal about usability holds up completely for Android.

>> No.13340600

>>13340374
>one true software

>> No.13340759

>>13340569
What people call "Linux" is GNU in 99% of all cases, hence justifying my "all these people saying Linux" reaction.

Of course when I encounter the 1%, I will point out it's not GNU if people wrongly refer to it as such, but currently 99% of all my encounters are wrong.

(By the way I'm the author of the copypasta.)

>>13340600
What?

>> No.13340797

>you will never have an OS with moe AI
What is science doing.

>> No.13340801

>>13340759
>What people call "Linux" is GNU in 99% of all cases, hence justifying my "all these people saying Linux" reaction.
What people call a "PC" is running Windows in 99% of all cases. That doesn't mean I should "correct" anyone who claims to be running GNU/Linux (or Linux, or *BSD, or...) on a PC.

I don't disagree with your motives, but since you're already being extremely particular about terminology, you should be correct in those particulars:

>The proper term is (probably) GNU.

or something.

>> No.13340834

>>13340801
>What people call a "PC" is running Windows in 99% of all cases.
When they say PC they're referring to the whole device, not the operating system.

>That doesn't mean I should "correct" anyone who claims to be running GNU/Linux (or Linux, or *BSD, or...) on a PC.
I don't really understand; if they are running those on a PC, then what is there to correct about their claim?

>> No.13340854

>>13340834
>When they say PC they're referring to the whole device, not the operating system.
Sure, that doesn't refute my argument. I'm talking about someone who claims to be running GNU/Linux (or Linux, or *BSD, or...) on a PC. In that case, they would be referring to the operating system.

>I don't really understand; if they are running those on a PC, then what is there to correct about their claim?

Nothing. Just as, if I claim to be running Linux, there might well be nothing for you to correct.

>> No.13341052

>>13340854
I fail to see your point.

When you're talking about your operating system, and call it "Linux," that's wrong because it implies that Linux is an operating system.

What does this have to do with saying that you run GNU/Linux, when you do indeed run GNU/Linux on your PC?

>> No.13341100

>>13341052
>When you're talking about your operating system, and call it "Linux," that's wrong because it implies that Linux is an operating system.
Some operating systems describe themselves as flavors of Linux. See, for example, the Aboriginal page. One of the goals is to

>Build the simplest linux system capable of compiling itself.

The author has been involved with systems of all kinds, and with the development of Linux, since the early 90s. He is also the primary developer of this distro. He refers to the operating system he maintains as "a linux system". Your sole objection to that appellation has, throughout your posts, been that it should be referred to as "GNU" instead. But his system contains no GNU, so your objection cannot hold. Therefore there is a "linux system", and you have no right to say it is not an operating system, nor that it should be called anything else.

>What does this have to do with saying that you run GNU/Linux, when you do indeed run GNU/Linux on your PC?

Here is the analogy in painful detail.

Person X claims "I am running FreeBSD on my PC". Person Y responds "No, you are running Windows. I am justified in making this statement because 99% of all things called PCs run Windows".

Person A claims "I am running Linux on my PC". Person B responds "No, you are running GNU. I am justified in making this statement because 99% of all things said to be running Linux run GNU".

Both Y and B use the same justification for their argument. Both Y and B are (possibly) wrong. I think you will agree with me that Y should not have said what he said. Then you should also agree with me that B should not have said what he said. But you are B. Therefore, you should amend your statement.

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Holy fuck. Shut the fuck up and post tans.

>> No.13341133

>>13341100

I never told anyone to call Aboriginal "GNU".

I told people using the term "Linux" for GNU (which is 99% of everyone who ever says "Linux") to please use the term "GNU" for GNU.

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>>13341120
This is what they call HURD-tan.

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>>13341120

>> No.13341189

>>13341133
>I never told anyone to call Aboriginal "GNU".

But your statement actually does say that. It is completely possible that somebody above your initial post used the term "Linux" to refer to a non-GNU system. But you unilaterally say, addressed to "ALL these people saying 'Linux'" that "the proper term is actually GNU".

So if somebody above your post was including Aboriginal (or Android, or any other non-GNU system referred to as a Linux system) in their use of the term "Linux", you told them to call it "GNU" instead.

You are engaging in nitpicking because (I assume) you want people to use the correct terms, yet you know that in some situations your nitpicking is actually advocating incorrect terms. You should change your nitpick slightly so that it does not have that problem.

>I told people using the term "Linux" for GNU (which is 99% of everyone who ever says "Linux") to please use the term "GNU" for GNU.

Again, this is not actually what you said. You told anyone using the term "Linux" to use the term "GNU" instead. You did not qualify that with "IF your system is actually GNU" or such. You are denying the existence of non-GNU Linux systems just as much as people who say "Linux" incorrectly deny the existence of GNU systems.

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>>13341120

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>>13341120

>Silverlight, along with other rich internet applications, are dying out now as iPhones didn't support them.

Thanks, Steve Jobs. Now we have to use Javascript for everything, or make apps for every platform.

>> No.13341336

>>13177764
I do sysadmin work for some schools that use XP for around 45 machines.

I am rolling out Lubuntu when I get the time.

>> No.13341343
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>>13341189

No for fuck's sake. Learn to read.

I said
>all these people saying "Linux"
and explained why GNU is (generally) the right term.

If there's some anti-GNU autists in-between who actually use non-GNU systems using the Linux kernel, they should not feel addressed. Not everything revolves around you and your super-special non-GNU system.

>> No.13341347

>>13341322
Huh? What is this Silverlight that's supposed to make it easy to make portable applications?
>Microsoft Silverlight is an application framework for writing and running rich Internet applications, similar to Adobe Flash.
Oh...

Into the trash it goes.

>> No.13341356

>>13341343
May I suggest rereading your actual post?

>The proper term is actually GNU.

This a statement of absolute fact. This statement is incorrect. Fix your statement.

>> No.13341362

>>13341322
Silverlight and Flash were always shit, the faster they die the better.

Thanks Steve Jobs!

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>>13340797
Looks like I wasn't the only one complaining about no moe AI based on OS-tans yet

>> No.13341377

>>13341343
You, uhh, shouldn't call someone an autist when you're the one writing GNU/Linux copypasta. Not everything revolves around you and your super-special replaceable programs that make up only 8% of the LOC in a typical distro.

>> No.13341393

>>13341356
Seriously learn to fucking interpret. If I tell a group of people using the term "Linux" that the correct term is "GNU" that is NOT equivalent to saying that the term "Linux" is ALWAYS wrong.

You're stuck up in your childish anti-GNU sentiment.

>>13341377
It's the actual fucking operating system underlying those distros, whether you like it or not. I'm explaining people a technical fact that they are somehow proudly ignorant of.


Let me repeat this one more time, since apparently reading is so hard for you:

When someone says "Linux", there is a 99% chance that they are talking about the GNU operating system, meaning they should say "GNU" instead.

Nobody cares about your special-snowflake no-GNU system when 99% of everyone is running GNU.

Call it GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux if you're really pedantic, but if you want something short then GNU it is.

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>>13341347
>>13341362

I'm surprised at the hate for RIA. Sure, they weren't perfect, but Javascript/HTML5 still has it's own set of issues (lack of platform agnosticism, code is not well protected, etc.) and I don't think it's quite a full replacement of the old way of doing things. We certainly couldn't replace /f/ with /js/, after all.

>> No.13341423

>>13341393
>Nobody cares about your special-snowflake no-GNU system when 99% of everyone is running GNU.
Might as well call all every OS Windows because most people run Windows.

>> No.13341428

>>13341393
>Seriously learn to fucking interpret. If I tell a group of people using the term "Linux" that the correct term is "GNU" that is NOT equivalent to saying that the term "Linux" is ALWAYS wrong.

But it is. Your post was clearly directed to "ALL these people saying Linux". For fuck's sake, the entire point of you posting that was to make sure people - especially ignorant people - use the right terminology. But your post doesn't actually do that.

Here, have another example. Joe Blow is using Android on his phone. He's heard Android is a Linux, whatever that is. He reads your post. You've just told him that he is actually running GNU. But he's not. Stop confusing him.

>You're stuck up in your childish anti-GNU sentiment.

Here's the funny part: I'm not. I correct people who use the term "Linux" to refer to GNU/Linux as well. But you're telling people things that are completely incorrect. You are part of the problem that I keep trying to correct: slapping labels on things that do not accurately reflect them.

Look, you wrote up an explanation of what GNU is. You got one part wrong. I pointed that out. Now you're getting all butthurt about it and pretending that you can just ignore it because non-GNU Linux systems are an insignificant minority. (For consumer systems, they're actually the vast majority counting Android). But you, yourself, are an insignificant minority: the minority of people who give a shit about GNU. Why should anyone pay attention to what you're saying if you're not making an effort to be correct?

>> No.13341433

Spot the post that ruined this thread.

>> No.13341447

>>13341423
Sure, if you're a fucking idiot.

I'll be calling GNU "GNU", and Windows "Windows."

>>13341428
>Your post was clearly directed to "ALL these people saying Linux".
Do you have actual autism disorder? I'm not asking this as an insult.
Or maybe English isn't your mother-tongue and you haven't spent enough time in English-speaking circles yet?

Anyway, "all these X" does not literally mean "EVERY X." Blame English.

>Look, you wrote up an explanation of what GNU is. You got one part wrong.
No, I did not. That's your interpretation from not understanding English well enough.

>>13341433
Clearly >>13340155, since it had to bring up the typical "hurr durr but there's Linux systems without GNU too!" non-argument that was already addressed in the post it responded to.

>> No.13341464

>>13341447
Maybe "all those people" were referring to all Linux distributions when they used the word "Linux", and not just GNU/Linux distributions.

>> No.13341488

>>13341403
It's all shit and needs to die. Javascript was completely spec'd and implemented (for a demo) by one guy in about two weeks (to be fair, it was because if he hadn't done it we'd have gotten something much worse). It shouldn't have the place in our world that it does.

But if I ever point out how much I despise JS, people look at me with funny faces and start talking about how much they need Facebook and Gmail (and 4chan extensions), etc. So I don't talk about it too much. Those same people share in a hearty laugh with me if I joke about how Silverlight was a piece of shit.

So you'll see more hate for Silverlight/Flash/ActiveX than for JS. And when JS is replaced by whatever follows it, I and my kind will reminisce about how we always fucking hated JS, and everyone will share in hearty laughs.

>> No.13341514

>>13341464
99% of so-called "Linux distributions" are GNU distributions using the Linux kernel.
Saying "GNU" precludes non-GNU distros; saying "Linux" precludes non-Linux distros. Both exist, as explained in the original post. However, when GNU is present, it's notably the actual OS, using Linux as its kernel. The non-GNU systems using the Linux kernel would ideally be called after whatever name their developers have assigned, like "Aboriginal." There isn't really a term to refer specifically to them, since "Linux distro" as a term has been "soiled" and will make people think primarily of GNU distros (whether they know or don't know that they are actually GNU distros).

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>> No.13341540

>>13341447
>Do you have actual autism disorder? I'm not asking this as an insult.

No, though I've been considering for the past few posts that you do. You display a complete incapability of understanding analogies and can't figure out how examples are relevant. You also have a fixed idea in your head about what the words you wrote mean, and can't reread them from another perspective and see that, to a reasonable person, they mean something different.

>Or maybe English isn't your mother-tongue and you haven't spent enough time in English-speaking circles yet?

Wrong again. On this point, you seem to be fine, although you occasionally forget to capitalize things.

>Anyway, "all these X" does not literally mean "EVERY X." Blame English.

Since you were making an epic implying meme, it has to be parsed strangely anyway. But any reasonable parsing of it finds that your post is addressed to those who triggered your greentext.

For the sake of argument, let's suppose that instead you wrote

>These people saying Linux

instead. Your post would still have the problem: anybody who had used the term "Linux" would be referenced by it. Any observer would read your entire post as referring to the word "Linux", because you gave no qualification.

>> No.13341570

>>13341514
99% of consumer products that run Linux do not run GNU: they run Android instead. If you want majority of installations to rule what we call it, the term GNU shouldn't be anywhere in the name.

>> No.13341622

>>13341540
>understanding analogies
The analogies you tried to construct were fundamentally missing the point because they were based on your wrong premise that I'm telling users of non-GNU Linux systems to call their systems GNU, which I didn't.

Your post as a whole is shit and painful to read so I'll just respond to
>Your post would still have the problem: anybody who had used the term "Linux" would be referenced by it.
This is why I'm asking whether you have a problem grasping English. "All these x" != "every x".

>>13341570
People in this thread were talking about GNU when they were using the word "Linux" so what you're saying is absolutely irrelevant.

>If you want majority of installations to rule what we call it
You're going by the idiotic misinterpretation of the other anon. Read *my* posts if you want to know what I'm saying.

To repeat this for the gazillionth time:

People in this thread are saying "Linux" when they mean GNU.

What's so difficult to understand about that?

>> No.13341624

>>13341514
>However, when GNU is present, it's notably the actual OS, using Linux as its kernel
Oh, please, define "OS" for us. I'm dying to hear how "OS" includes libc, cat, and sed, but does not include my text editor, my email client, my web browser, my filesystem, my music player, my file downloading application, the drivers to run my hardware, the programs I use to securely access other systems, the little bar at the top of my screen telling me what's happening, the program that sets my desktop wallpaper, X-fucking-11, ...

Or would you like to instead retract your statement that GNU is the actual OS? Perhaps change it to something like "GNU is part of the OS?"

>> No.13341667

>>13341622
>which I didn't

Repeating this doesn't change the fact that you did. Unless you can prove that you knew, for an absolute fact, that nobody using the term "Linux" was using it to refer to a non-GNU system, your post tells them they're wrong (incorrectly).

Furthermore, since you didn't even know that Aboriginal Linux was a non-GNU system, it seems reasonable to conclude that you didn't actually know non-GNU Linux systems existed. When you wrote that post, you really thought that everyone using the term "Linux" to refer to an operating system was incorrect.

>"All these x" != "every x".

As I have pointed out, that doesn't change anything in your post.

How about this. Consider the case of Joe Blow above, who is running a non-GNU Linux system, calls it Linux, and then reads your post. Your post does not inform Joe, in any manner, that is a "super-special" exception. How is Joe supposed to know that he should not be addressed by your request to use "GNU"? After all, people like Joe, who don't really know what Linux and GNU are, are the intended audience of your post!

>> No.13341699

>>13341622
>People in this thread are saying "Linux" when they mean GNU.

Whoa, you can tell that? Even without any fucking context, as in >>13177954 ? Tell me what number I'm thinking of! Tell me if it should properly be referred to as an EVEN/Number instead!

>> No.13341725

>>13341624
>I'm dying to hear how "OS" includes libc, cat, and sed
See POSIX.
#rekt

>>13341667
>Repeating this doesn't change the fact that you did.
Repeating that doesn't change the fact that I didn't.

>Joe Blow uses a non-GNU system yet doesn't know what Linux and GNU are.
Improbable, since non-GNU systems are obscure and not for noobs, just like non-Linux systems.


I'll stop responding now since you're just digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole and I can't be arsed to go down there.

>>13341699
>Even without any fucking context, as in >>13177954 ?
That post does have context. It's this thread. This thread started with a mention of an OS, Windows. Saying "Linux is better than Windows" makes as much sense as saying "Pirelli is superior to Ford."

>> No.13341743

one of the major reasons nobody says GNU is because the "GNU" sounds and looks dumb as shit

should have gotten a real marketing team, stall man

>> No.13341748

>>13341725
>Improbable, since non-GNU systems are obscure and not for noobs, just like non-Linux systems.

Read again. Joe is using an Android phone. These are hardly obscure.

>I'll stop responding now since you're just digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole and I can't be arsed to go down there.

Oh, how cute. Just make sure that your pasta is correct the next time you post it. You should also read up on other operating systems to make sure you don't accidentally put your foot firmly in your mouth again.

>> No.13341761

>>13341725
Dude, do you still not get it? It's not wrong to refer to a system as a Linux system. You're pitching a fit because you wanted to be the cool guy who knows more than everyone else, but you didn't even realize that not everything runs glibc these days.

>> No.13341779

>>13341748
Joe should know better than to think people would be comparing a desktop OS to a mobile OS.

The pasta needs no correction because only an overly autistic interpretation of it would lead to any misunderstanding.

>>13341761
It's wrong to call the GNU OS "Linux."
>cool guy who knows more than everyone else
I wouldn't be spending so much fucking effort to explain this stuff to others if I wanted to just wallow in a stupid sense of superiority.
>not everything runs glibc these days
Read my original post; I explicitly address that non-argument.

>> No.13341784

>>13341779
>I wouldn't be spending so much fucking effort to explain this stuff to others if I wanted to just wallow in a stupid sense of superiority.
visit /g/ sometime

that's basically everyone

>> No.13341789

>>13341779
>Joe should know better than to think people would be comparing a desktop OS to a mobile OS.

Why? You can buy a laptop that runs Android. http://www.amazon.com/HP-Slatebook-14-Inch-Touchscreen-Android/dp/B00KB3K6G4 .

>> No.13341797

>>13341789
You know, a 2k character piece of text can only cover so many fucking tiny obscure special-cases.

Increase the character cap and I'll tune my post just for the sake of quasi-literal autists.

>> No.13341799

>>13341779
>Read my original post; I explicitly address that non-argument.
So you really think that a computer that runs the Linux kernel and doesn't have any code from the FSF is running GNU?

Goddamn you're dumb.

>> No.13341809

>>13341799
What he means to say it doesn't matter because they're a minority.

Similarly, if somebody is referring to an "operating system" you should correct him and say he actually meant "Windows", because most people are running Windows and 100% of Windows code is Windows.

>> No.13341813

>>13341797
>Increase the character cap and I'll tune my post just for the sake of quasi-literal autists.

Or you could just replace "actually" with "probably", as was suggested >>13340801 .

>> No.13341822

>>13341809
Good point. And pretty much nobody uses q, j, z, or x (over 99% of the English language is not those characters), so let's not use those either.

>> No.13341834

>>13341797
>fucking tiny obscure special-cases
People who give two flying shits about GNU are tiny obscure special-cases, so just don't post it at all.

>> No.13341844

>>13341799
I'm sorry to inform you that you're an illiterate idiot.

Now go re-read my post until you get it.

>>13341813
That makes for shitty style.

>>13341834
Whether someone cares about GNU or not doesn't change the fact that they use it or not.

>> No.13341857

>>13341844
>Whether someone cares about GNU or not doesn't change the fact that they use it or not.
And whether you care about non-GNU Linux systems or not doesn't change the fact that they exist, and that they're more prevalent among users than GNU.

>> No.13341888

>>13341857
Nobody here said to call non-GNU systems GNU.

>> No.13341926

>>13341888
You still haven't answered how Joe knows that unless he already knows what the relationship between Linux and GNU are, and how that affects his Android laptop.

>> No.13341956

>>13341926
Seriously there are no Joes in threads I post in.

Stop being autistic.

>> No.13341984

>>13341956
So your argument is that everybody who reads your post either 1) knows what it means already, or is 2) using "Linux" incorrectly? And everything that proves this laughably wrong is something you can ignore? You're living in your own world. That's fine, just don't bother the rest of us.

>> No.13341992

>>13341926
He can't do that, because he didn't even know his shitposting was inaccurate until this thread. So he's just going to keep blindly replying "nu-uh" and calling things insignificant minorities until the thread dies.

Just give up - everyone can already see he's a butthurt fool who doesn't want to admit he was wrong.

>> No.13342013

>>13341992
Fine, fine.

>>13341956
Again, there's very little wrong with your post. You just need to make it clear that there are edge cases. If you can't fit it all in the character limit, leave it open-ended so that people can ask for themselves about what they're running. Or, even better, that they might look it up themselves.

>> No.13342074

>>13341984
My argument is that people should stop being autistic and that the pasta conveys exactly what it intends to convey when directed at the target audience it was written for.

>> No.13342083

>>13342074
Apparently it's directed at people between two very well defined thresholds of stupidity.

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>> No.13343023

>>13343010
>protected sex
What if I want to know everything about the OS I'm using?

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>>13343023

Use GNU! No viruses! Bareback!

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>> No.13350535

>>13344723
Everyone with enough common sense can avoid "viruses" easily on Windows, if you don't have this, you are not supposed to be using Linux/GNU anyway

>>13344745
That Windows 7 commercial is so cute and Nanami is my favorite OS-Tan(She's also my main OS, I still don't feel like maining 8, but will definitely wait for 10 final release)

>> No.13350658

Holy fuck all this autism, this is why I use FreeBSD.

>> No.13350697

As someone who plays eroge all the time, there's absolutely no reason for me to switch over to any other OS and make my life harder

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>>13350697
Hey, some of us are masochists.

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