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13072909 No.13072909 [Reply] [Original]

I fucking hate meta threads, but this shit is getting so bad lately that I gotta ask.

Do you think reaction images, greentext, uncalled-for catchphrases and off-topic crossboarder stuff should be a bannable or at least reportable offense? Like, putting it in the rules.

How would you feel about enabling poster IDs?

I'm not looking to start a shitstorm about "what went wrong with /jp/", a short 'yes' or 'fuck you reported' reply will do.

>> No.13072918

Oh look: a knee-jerk reaction!

>> No.13072921

I think complaining about those things should be met with a ban and round of laughter

>> No.13072923

As much as I hate any sort of greentext and crossie memes, I abhor strict moderation even more, so I will stick with "Who're you quoting".

>> No.13072929

>Like, putting it in the rules.
Fuck no.

The only thing that needs a ban is regression to shitposting when challenged.

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I do have a feeling that cynical blasé shitlords who laugh off this stuff are the first ones to post GO BACK TO >>>/v/ or WHO ARE U QUOTING quality posts

>> No.13072946

>>13072929
>Fuck no.
Why not? Just asking, be gentle.

>> No.13072951

gb2 message boards

>> No.13072957

>>13072946
“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
That guy on the dollar bill.

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>>13072957
>“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
Oh my god I shouldn't have asked

>> No.13072986

>>13072946
Because it's a no-fun-allowed garbage idea.

>>13072923
The people who post that are still shittier than your average greentexter, even five years later.

>> No.13072987

>>13072909
The less rules the better, the place is dead because of them in the first place.

>> No.13073009

>>13072987
/jp/ has literally TWO rules, what the fuck are you talking about.
>>13072986
>Because it's a no-fun-allowed garbage idea.
As opposed to what, "fun" memes and lifeblog threads? "how did u become an otaku???"

>> No.13073020

>>13072986
That guy here, I'd still post no matter what awful things you say to me and my fellow friends.

>> No.13073022

>>13073009
Umm...

>> No.13073050

>>13072939
Get out gook, u r worst gook

>> No.13073068

>>13073009
>As opposed to what, "fun" memes
Some memes are fun, yes. It's been part of chan culture for ages, and has been as true in /jp/ as anywhere else.

>and lifeblog threads?
These are generally awful, but again, mostly awful because of the people in them are long-winded self-centered blowhards and not because they used to much greentext or whatever-the-fuck-else have you.

>> No.13073126

>>13073009
>/jp/ has literally TWO rules
For a while the staff in /jp/ had all sorts of secret bonus rules that you weren't allowed to violate, like -

- you can't ask for recommendations on anything
- you can't compare Kancolle to Touhou
- you can't create more than one non-character IM@S thread
- the OP must pass some completely fuck-arbitrary quality standard

all of which were quietly filed under rule six. It was retarded.

>> No.13073130

>>13073068
I recognize you from another thread. Same language and all. You still mad?

>> No.13073136

>>13073130
I have been mad every day since the end of 2010.

>> No.13073215

>>13072909
There's already a meta thread up and misuse of the quote function and reaction images are for faggots.

>> No.13073227

I think it's pretty lame that some /a/ mod babysits the crossie hive that's always at the top of the page. How is that monster girl thread even still around?

>> No.13073396
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13073396

bring back sage

>> No.13073401

Kindly kill yourself.

>> No.13073407

>>13072909
>reaction images, greentext, uncalled-for catchphrases and off-topic crossboarder stuff should be a bannable
When they're blatant. Obviously /jp/ related reaction images shouldn't be banned though.
>How would you feel about enabling poster IDs?
That's dumb. Fuck you.

>> No.13073413

I think it's hilarious how you all wanted to keep your video game generals on /jp/ because "/vg/ is for normies abloo bloo", so now you have threads filled with people who would never come to /jp/ otherwise

>> No.13073423

>>13073413
>I think it's hilarious how you all wanted to keep your video game generals on /jp/
What world are you living in?

>> No.13073451

>>13072909
This thread violates local rule #1:
All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).
Please also heed global rules #3:
You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
and #8:
Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc) on the imageboards may result in post deletion and a ban.

>> No.13073520

>>13073407
>That's dumb. Fuck you.
That's quite the quality argument, can you explain to me why anyone would care about this if you don't samefag? I don't even understand why it's not on by default on every board.
>>13073451
#1: so this gets violated around 30 times per hour, which is exactly my point, but I can't point it out without breaking the rule. I'll name this the Loophole of Shit
#3: what in that list describes this discussion?
#4: where exactly do you see a complaint in here?

>Do you think (...) should be a bannable or at least reportable offense?

>> No.13073910

>uncalled-for catchphrases
whats that supposed to mean

>> No.13073917

>>13073451
Okay. I'll post my complaint on /q/.
Wait, it isn't loading. Care to help?
>>>/q/
It just goes to a 404 page

>> No.13073948

>>13073917
That should tell you meta discussion is not welcome on 4chan, period.

>> No.13073967

>>13073917
Go to /qa/

>> No.13073970

>>13072909
Just to make this clear: they already are in the rules. You asking whether they should be removed and un-banned? Fuck no.

Poster IDs are unnecessary, but not harmful.

>> No.13073994

>>13073948
I haven't been using the site much recently. Wasn't /q/ made explicitly for this purpose? Doesn't moot still answer questions on it?

>> No.13074023

>>13073994
Whoa, nigga. Lotta thing happened while you were not paying attention. /q/ is dead for almost two years, moot is gone...

>> No.13074266

>>13072909
>How would you feel about enabling poster IDs?
Oh hi there 8gag-kun, still trying to devide "weak boards and communities" to gather more people for your "war"?

>> No.13074333

>>13073994

https://www.4chan.org/feedback

>> No.13074802

>>13073994
/q/ is kill, /pol/ is kill and moot left the sight

>> No.13074814

>>13072985
I hope you're not OP.

>> No.13074886

>>13073520
>That's quite the quality argument, can you explain to me why anyone would care about this if you don't samefag? I don't even understand why it's not on by default on every board.
Onaholes are totally otaku paraphernalia!

>> No.13074889

>>13074886
Oh, quoted the wrong part. Aimed at
>#1: so this gets violated around 30 times per hour, which is exactly my point, but I can't point it out without breaking the rule. I'll name this the Loophole of Shit

>> No.13075044

It's funny how people who persecute the crossboarders and redditors use equally unfunny, forced jokes because theirs are "special" and "board culture" I guess. There are so many threads composed almost entirely of this it's ridiculous.

>> No.13075055

>>13072909
>I fucking hate meta threads, but this shit is getting so bad lately that I gotta ask.
The other one's still up, though.

"I hate it so much, I'm going to make one and shit up the board even further, inviting more scum to come!"

Quality thread, OP.

>> No.13075059

>>13075044
You expect /jp/ to conform to your board's standards of posting? what

>> No.13075066

>>13074266
Not OP. I'd be glad if people who were so used to samefagging left for 8gag because of poster IDs.
They don't reduce anonymity and lower shit-posting, win/win?

>> No.13075090 [DELETED] 

gay thread

>> No.13075132
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So overall the main argument against any of this consists of "yes, the board is going to shit, but if you talk about it, you're part of the problem!"

Subarashi posts all around. There are retards in every community ever, but having most of the regulars be cynical blasé shitlords who never got over their late-teen edginess is what truly kills it in the end.

>> No.13075142

We should have REGDATES, that way we can easily identify newshits who should be lurking and ban evading shitposters.

>> No.13075149

>>13075132
>shitlords
I think you should leave.

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>>13075066
Fuck off faGGot. Why would /jp/ ever need IDs? This is the most retarded thing you can come up with; after the global space fem lizards controlling our thoughts with cosmic waves of course.

>> No.13075189

>>13075149
I think you are new.

>> No.13075443

>>13075189
I think you're a /v/irgin or /pol/ack who can't help but use tumblr slang in order to be ironic or witty. The fact that you threw edgy in there too only reinforces this belief.

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>/vg/ general with meme on the OP >>13066292
>/v/ lifeblog thread >>13072458
>greentext "mfw" thread + webcomic reaction image >>13071920
>"post reaction faces" thread >>13055592
>greentext lifeblog thread >>13068878
>/a/ thread >>13037810
>lifeblog thread >>13053999
>one more lifeblog thread >>13027293
>yet another /vg/ general >>13074088

All around pages 1-4, most with 30+ replies, some with 100+, and I'm missing a lot of them on further pages that will come back eventually

>> No.13075818

>>13075443
You think tumblr popularized the words "edgy" and "shitlord"? Are you like, 16 years old, possibly younger?

>> No.13075921

>>13075818
Shitlord most definitely saw a surge in usage after 4chan started getting involved with tumblr or maybe the other way around, who knows.

>> No.13075952

>>13075818
Someone popularized "shitlord" and it wasn't us.

>> No.13076334

Occasional reminder the mods are slowly allowing shit like video game and anime threads with the ultimate goal of turning /jp/ into 2d/random

>> No.13076388

>>13075793
It's true, I've noticed the many shitty posts lately, notably greentexting and /v/ crap. It's like for some reason people from /v/ are coming here at higher rates than before.

>> No.13076609

>>13075952
>us
This is what's wrong, right here

>> No.13076642

/jp/ was more bearable when sage was visible.

>> No.13076642,1 [INTERNAL] 

Can someone please post a jannycat in this thread? I want to test if it really doesn't get deleted anymore, but captcha won't load for me

>> No.13076731

>>13076334
Good

>> No.13076773

it shouldn't be put in the rules, it's all over, we can't go back to those innocent, dreamlike days, even if it were in the rules the userbase would still consist of 80% retards just pretending to not be retarded only by the grace of the rules so there's just no point

>> No.13076782

>>13074802
He left the sight?
So he's invincible?

>> No.13076810

>>13075044
lebbiter pls go and stay go

>>13076642
this

>> No.13076815

My only question is why we take this board so seriously when it's meant for fun?

>> No.13076869
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>>13076815
>/jp/

>> No.13076872

>>13076815
Pretending to be retarded and doing an internet equivalent of shitting your pants is not the only way to have fun.

>> No.13077062

>>13076872
is it fun to repeat the same conversations day in and day out

>> No.13077074

>>13076815
Like people care what things were originally meant for in some other peoples fantasies, thats not how life works

>> No.13077087

>>13076609
Just because every group pronoun automatically indicates a secret club hivemind to you doesn't mean that's how it actually works. It wasn't /jp/ and I'm pretty sure it wasn't 4chan.

>>13077062
waiting for content in /jp/

>> No.13077087,1 [INTERNAL] 

My favorite part about retards in those threads is how they want janitors to defend /jp/ from those filthy crossboarders without realising that jannies are crossies themselves.
Did they really miss the leak or are they pretending it didn't happen?

>> No.13077087,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>13077087,1
just wrote a post about this seconds ago
https://8ch.net/jp/res/4444.html#8715

parasites outnumber hosts and now are beginning to realize the hosts are gone and thus freak out

>> No.13077087,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>13077087,2
exceed the carrying capacity of the hosts I guess would be a better way to phrase it

>> No.13077087,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>13077087,1
Most posters on 4chan don't really care or just see the leaks as fake.

>> No.13077087,5 [INTERNAL] 

how late are these retards

the j died ages ago it's /monstergirl and other generals that don't fit elsewhere/ now

>> No.13077446

Thank you for leaving this thread up, discussion like this needs to occur every once and awhile if you want your community to not wither out and die - and we're pretty fucking close to that right now.

>> No.13077446,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13077087,5
they're crossies trying to imitate

>>13077087,4
>fake
wow

>> No.13077457

>How would you feel about enabling poster IDs?

shitstorm incoming

>> No.13077464

I think board IDs like /pol/ are exactly what this board needs. It will finally out the shitposters once and for all.

>> No.13077466

>>13077446
Are you kidding? Monstergirl threads are booming and have doubled or tripled /jp/'s daily activity.

You're not saying that monstergirls and low quality furry fan-fiction isn't /jp/ are you??? You're a sick individual if that's the case. J-man please do the honours and ban this sick degenerate.

>> No.13077466,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13077464
jannypost

>> No.13077466,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>13077466
warosupost

>> No.13077562

>>13076642
Yeah I'm so glad we had le downboat. Not.

>> No.13077587

>>13077562
As expected of a retard who doesn't know what sage is for.

>> No.13077605

>>13077587
Only retard here is you m8, if you can't make an argument without using memes then you've already lost anyway.

Stay mad.

>> No.13077667

>>13077605
>if you can't make an argument without using memes
You're the only one using memes here.

But here, I'll entertain your stupidity - sage is not for "downvoting threads," it's for any case in which you would decline to bump a thread.

>> No.13077685

>>13077667
So in other words, it's a downboat. Aren't you late for a waifu thread on /a/ pal?

>> No.13077715

I think its funny that the quality of /jp/ had a large noticable drop when shit like "kankore/dmm general" and all the other various generals started popping up. Sure, the quality wasn't super high before, but that is when the reaction images and greentext really took off. Just sending those shitty threads over to /vg/ might reduce it but I think the damage is already done.

>> No.13077752

>>13077685
Do you think that if you just blindly spout enough crossie buzzwords then no one will notice that you're part of the problem along with the rest of the generalshitters?

>> No.13077823

>>13077715
Generals ruined this site.

>> No.13077928

>>13077752
Keep swinging wildly looking for a boogeyman to blame for your newfag quest for "le good old days" not being here. I don't care. No return of "le epic oldfag features" will turn this board into something that it never was when you weren't here. I wish you faggots would go back to /a/ and stop acting like this is your own personal board to be elitist jerks for no reason.

When you're done huffing and puffing and have all calmed down please go back to /a/ where you belong.

>>13077823
If actual on topic discussion ruined this site for you maybe you should fuck off back to /b/ where you came from last Tuesday.

>> No.13077975

>>13077715
>>13077823
/jp/ has always had general threads due to the low speed of the board.

>> No.13077978

>>13077685
>sage is a downvote
wow, what a gigantic newfaggot, this is borderline trolling

>> No.13078010

>>13077978
Are you implying it was used in any other way than downvoting? Get real.

>> No.13078010,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13077087,4
They think they are fake even after people like AoC come out and acknowledge they're real? Are they fucking retarded?

>> No.13078047

I'm scared of "new" 4channers ;_;

>> No.13078059

>>13073910
dank as fukkin HELL epin memezzzz

>> No.13078068

>>13077605
>m8
Get the fuck out and don't come back

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>>13072909
Board culture is dead man

Whatever you thought made /jp/ different isn't coming back

Just accept it, these type of threads never achieve anything

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>>13077978
WHO ARE YOU QUOTING LELELELEL EPICK MAYMAYS.

>> No.13078103

Even when discussing shitposting, the primary form of communication on this board is shitposting. I use the word 'communication' quite wrongly of course.

>> No.13078113

>>13077823
Yeah but they were just under orders from the colonels.

>> No.13078117

Monstergirls should go to /d/. They are outsiders on /jp/ and no one wants them.

>> No.13078126

>>13078117
Chew my chink. You'll have to pry my monstergirls from my cold dead hands.

>> No.13078132

>>13078117
Projecting much? There are more fans of monstergirls here than not. I'm sorry you get triggered by someone liking something different from you memelord

>> No.13078137

>>13078126
You guys see this? This the type of stuff we have to deal with now.

>> No.13078140

>>13078132
It must be unsettling for some people to see more than the same threads posted every day for 7 years.

>> No.13078144

>>13078140
You should put "worked at salt factory" on your resume, maybe then you'd get a job sperglord. Put those NaCl skills to work for society instead of crying like a little bitch, a little bitch, that some people are enjoying themselves on an imageboard and won't give in to your retarded demands to have a secret club.

>> No.13078154

>>13078144
It wsa the second "a little bitch" that really got to me. You monster.

Even if you know I am right.

>> No.13078155

Literally everyone here has a problem with everyone else. You're all bitter introverts who rage at anyone who doesn't think exactly the way you do. YOU are killing /jp/

But WAIT. Anoncuck is here to save the day. All he wants is quality. But not just any quality. HIGH QUALITY. Things will be all good and well in time. Just you wait ;)

>> No.13078155,1 [INTERNAL] 

this thread is going to give me cancer

>> No.13078169

>>13078155
> Everyone stop bitching and bring me high-quality-tranny-porn!
No.

>> No.13078169,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13078155,1
You're the problem

>> No.13078174

>>13078169
You don't understand. Anoncuck is a movement. It is the chemo. Fight fire with fire comrades. They will rue the day ;)

>> No.13078181

>>13078155
>You're all bitter introverts
>;)
But you're also fueling the rage so you're probably not a /jp/ either.

>> No.13078194

>>13078181
So then you guys don't accept me. But aren't you guys the unaccepted? So then that WOULD make me /jp/.

Take my arm brother, we need unity. I will bring it upon us.

>> No.13078194,1 [INTERNAL] 

>How would you feel about enabling poster IDs?
lol

>> No.13078232

>>13078194
>But aren't you guys the unaccepted?
Yes, except old /jp/ didn't care about that, nor they care about "normies".

Besides I don't trust people trying to bring "unity".

>> No.13078232,1 [INTERNAL] 

Post-CAPSLOCK revival is my new favorite meme.

>> No.13078232,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>13078194,1
I'm not going to read this thread, are people actually in support of this?

>> No.13078266

>>13078232
To be expected of a japester. It is a natural reaction to lack trust, but every group needs a leader. Watch out for the smiley in a thread near you. It's spreading like a disease and taking a life of its own ;)

>> No.13078274

>>13077685
>So in other words, it's a downboat.
Only as much as not posting in the thread at all is.

>> No.13078288

I'd much rather ban the general threads. /jp/ has gotten considerably less fun since they started to take over.

>> No.13078322

>>13077975
The only regular general threads before were AKB, H!P, and VN theads. There were semi regular threads for things like onaholes, RPG maker games, and various flavor of the month games like sword girls, 100% oj, MMO's, and things of that nature, but they weren't generals with individual communities that make a new one as soon as the last hits the post limit. Now generals with rigid sets of rules and /vg/ tier "info OP's" flood the board and each have their own little community of people from other boards that shit them up, and unfortunately some of them leak out.

>> No.13078330

>>13077562
Did you browse a different board back when sage was visible?

>> No.13078339

>>13078155
Please go back to /v/, even if you're just pretending to be retarded.

>> No.13078353

>>13078330
It sure seems like you did if you actually bought into that "/jp/ is the only board that uses sage right!" crap.

>> No.13078356

As a Japanese I think it's laughable that a bunch of crackers think they are the authority on what is considered otaku culture.

You're way off honky

>> No.13078410

>>13078356
Please tell us what is otaku culture then, O Great Nihonjinsama

>> No.13078410,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13078010,1
They just don't care.

>> No.13078506

>>13078410
Look up the character Sodom from Street Fighter. /jp/ is Sodom.

>> No.13078507

>>13078353
I don't ever recall anyone throwing a fit over others using sage in their threads here, unless the OP was from a different board.

>> No.13078518

>>13078506
But that's not what I asked. I already know I/we're Sodom. So tell me how to be a super cool otaku dude like you properly Nihonjinsama

>> No.13078520

>>13078356
Americanized?

>> No.13078526

>>13078518
Play Alpha series. Sodom becomes true Japanese in Alpha 3.

>> No.13078534

>>13078520
Oh, I'm sorry. Let me call you baka gaijin because you think we're real life anime characters. You guys are the characters.

>> No.13078543

A meta thread to express your hate about meta threads?

>> No.13078549

>>13078543
Yeah he really thought this one through.

>> No.13078573

>>13078543
>>13078549
Even if you were right, and you're not, you two just bumped the thread to complain about the thread!

You really thought this one through.

>> No.13078573,1 [INTERNAL] 

this thread is dope

>> No.13078585

>>13078356
Your power is weak, japcuck, otaku culture has outgrown any national borders.

>> No.13078591

>>13078534
You laugh now, but one day I will go to Japan and become anime. I've already picked out the seiyuu and studio I'm aiming for.

When I'm laughing at you from on screen, we'll know who got the last laugh.

>> No.13078593

>>13078534
I guess that is why anime characters look white.

>> No.13078591,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13078573,1
thanks bro i appreciate it but if you really wanna show the love and bust out yo credit card and send a donation flyin to webmaster@gnfos.com

>> No.13078595

Could we get a mod comment on at least a trial of IDs here? I seriously think they would help the board.

>> No.13078601

>>13078595
God no.

If you think so, perhaps you are better on leddit or other message boards.

>> No.13078615

>>13078601
Give me one good (read: no memes) argument why they wouldn't improve the board?

>> No.13078622

>>13078615
Because it makes everyone know each other thus destroying the point of true anonymity.

Seriously if you want ID codes, just stick to leddit and other message boards, leave /jp/ alone.

>> No.13078629

>>13078615
Do you really care about knowing who image dumps what?

>> No.13078651

>>13078629
The original intention is to identify samefagging wankers, but it's been less of a problem lately.

Incidentally, someone who's ID changes every minute is probably also a samefag.

>> No.13078657

>>13078651
Rather have one or two samefags than having everyone's identities exposed.

See>>13072957

>> No.13078663

>>13078585
Typical western white pigs, bastardizing all cultures.

>> No.13078664

>>13078622
ID codes are on a per-thread basis. Unless you can build up an amazing cult of personality in one thread it doesn't fucking matter.

>> No.13078672

>>13078664
thanks for your input reddit

>> No.13078677

>>13078664
If we're going to have them I'd rather have them global - might as well combat the retards if you're going to compromise anonymity in the first place.

>>13078672
2ch has them and it doesn't cause major issues.

>> No.13078681

>>13078664
Even if it's one thread, everyone would focus on the IDs ala who say what instead of what being said, so nope.

>> No.13078686

>>13078677
Thankfully, this place ain't 2ch.

Now go.

>> No.13078696

>>13078686
Posting bad ideas in shitty metathreads is my calling in life. You'll never take my dream from me.

>> No.13078697

>>13078622
>leddit
Oh so close, you almost made it without meme-ing. Maybe when you grow up you'll be able to articulate yourself in a concise manner!

>>13078629
Do you really care that they get a board ID like on /pol/? If you're not actively working to troll the board and kill discussion with bullshit then there's zero reason to stand against this.

>> No.13078700

>>13078681
Not him but everywhere on this board people accuse people of samefag every time more than one person agrees with an opposing view.Wait til they accuse this of samefagging

>> No.13078700,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13078591,1
i'll donate 500 bucks if you post a timestamped picture of your toilet

>> No.13078703

>>13078681
People do that anyway.

>> No.13078704

>>13078697
>If you're not actively working to troll the board and kill discussion with bullshit
I enjoy having the freedom to switch between carefree fun and cutthroat arguments without having to worry about cross-contamination, even if it's in the same thread. That's part of the fun of being anonymous, too.

>> No.13078711

>>13078700
The accuse of samefagging never stop discussion, but once a cult of personality is created, we can already witness the horror of tripfagging, now imagine everyone a tripfag.

>> No.13078714

>>13078703
Yes, and adding ID would encourage that even more.

>> No.13078719

>>13078704
There's a difference between an argument and arranging organized shitposting / trolling campaigns that ruin the fun for everyone by allowing one person to enjoy themselves at the expense of others, literally hundreds of others.

>> No.13078720

>>13078601
>>13078622
>>13078657
>>13078672
>>13078681
>>13078686
>everyone's identities exposed
Are you fucking stupid? Do you even know how ID codes work? Are you aware that 4chan already logs your ID, and simply does not display it? Do you even know that they only work within a thread? You think it's like an account + password, don't you, you newfaggot + samefaggot? Do you know how to say anything besides "go back to X", which is likely where you yourself come from?

>> No.13078726

>>13078703
We just got a nice example good work

>> No.13078731

>>13078711
Except that's not what happens. If you look at /pol/ the board has only improved after adding this feature. There are numbers of generals here that would improve by adding this as well. I know you hate them but the majority of the users here do in fact use and like them and catering to a whining group of /a/ elitists that recent relocated here in search of the "real internet" shouldn't come at the cost of depriving features lots of users could benefit from.

>> No.13078736

>>13078711
There's no way you can create a cult of personality in one thread.

No one's going to be sucking RKrk349j's dick over the seven great posts he made in one thread.

>> No.13078740

>>13078711
Sometimes it does. It'd be nice for that to go away but nothing can stop it because people can alter screenshots and people can just change ip's anyway so id's wouldn't do much.

>> No.13078746

>>13078719
>There's a difference between an argument
It's not aimed at me, but it still restricts my freedom to post what I like.

>allowing one person to enjoy themselves at the expense of others, literally hundreds of others.
I hate these people too but the real answer is just to get the staff to ban them. Which, somehow, they managed to start doing in the last year.

>> No.13078752

IDs do more to kill obnoxious tripfagging than anything else. As long as they are board persistent instead of thread specific then they will make samefagging and most types of trip bullshit infinitely more difficult and much easier to ignore.

There's basically nothing wrong with this and I know you hate it because change is hard to deal with for autistics but just try to contain yourself long enough for a trial.

>> No.13078763

>>13078752
Going cross thread is too much. People here will go out of their way to memorize IDs and follow them into other threads. It becomes a username at that point and usernames don't have a place on 4chan.

>> No.13078769

>>13078746
>ban them
Banning is largely ineffective judging by the how prolific they have been in the past two years. Instead, by preventing them from doing anything besides posting stupid pictures by adding board IDs the over AND covert foreign agent provocateurs so intent on creating trouble on this board will be exposed.

They will have no post history here. It will be incredibly transparent when someone who has never posted here before shows up immediately in a thread with a bunch of similar people just to reinforce / samefag a position or troll a thread.

They will still be able to be annoying until mods get around to clean them but the truth of the matter is they won't be able to trick anyone anymore.

>> No.13078787

>>13078711
IDs are unique to each thread, newfaggot

>> No.13078791

>>13078763
It really doesn't work that way when the board is this fast and it's just a string of gibberish it is really less of an issue than you think. People already track filenames and all sorts of things that don't prove things, they already edit screenshots which doesn't prove anything, and again it's hardly a username.

Most people's IPs change on a long term scale and if you post personally revealing information in any context you're not being net-smart and can be exposed anyway. What this does is allow short term establishment of good will. Drive-by first post by an IP in Columbia trolling attempts will vanish. Honesty will finally come to a community so long ruined by trolls and malcontents.

You can fight this board having a future because you haven't accepted that your reality doesn't match the real one but don't hold back the rest of us that actually enjoy using the board because of it.

>> No.13078796

>>13078769
>Banning is largely ineffective
Nothing is effective, dude.

>they won't be able to trick anyone anymore.
Either you underestimate or overestimate how stupid people are. People will argue with known trolls for years on end. Even when they're tripfags infamous for being retarded.

>> No.13078796,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13078232,2
yes

>> No.13078798

>>13078796
>Nothing is effective, dude.
Pass that shit, bro.

>> No.13078804

>>13078796
>People will argue with known trolls for years on end
Most of these arguments are actually samefagging, what a surprise!

>> No.13078807

>>13078791
>rest of us

Most people are against it m8y

>> No.13078818

>>13078807
>m8y
Great way of broadcasting you're a newfaggot crossboarder tryhard. Leave.

>> No.13078819

>>13078807
You can't know that without IDs

>> No.13078830

>>13078818
>want to stop samefagging
>want everyone to use the same lingo, act the same, and think the same

Pick one m8y

>> No.13078834

>>13078807
Just because there's a loud minority that constantly bitches about something doesn't mean they're a majority. If you look at the number of people who actually post, yes actually post, here the vast majority are in fact in favor of current trends in posting. If you're not some dumb /a/ elitist and you actually were here you'd know how purposeless and stupid this board would be today without generals. If you don't like Otaku Culture maybe you should go somewhere else because this is a board for people who ENJOY it. The board is GROWING in posts, yes GROWING. You can shitpost and cry on archives or whatever the fuck it is that you do but the board is doing better today than it has been in years and the only thing left is to take the last weapon the shitposters and you, dear /a/ elistist trying to ruin everyone's fun to compensate for your mental ilness, away: the samefag and consequence-free ban evasion.

It's totally anonymous and I'd be in favor of clearing post history on IDs every 48 hours or so but the implications for improving browsing experience for everyone constructive on the board are immense.

>> No.13078837

if only 4chan had ids, then we wouldn't be having this shitty argument right now

oh oh guess which posts are mine

>> No.13078838

Why isn't there a /dqn/

>> No.13078851

>>13078834
>Just because there's a loud minority that constantly bitches about something doesn't mean they're a majority.
as opposed to the loud minority clamoring for IDs consisting of you and... well, it looks like it's just you

>you'd know how purposeless and stupid this board would be today without generals
general threads represent a balkanization of board culture

/mgg/ has a thousand people in it but most of them have nothing to do with the rest of /jp/ - the same is true to a lesser degree of /kcg/

>> No.13078852

>>13078834
Lelwat

Who do you think I am? I actually made a case for why IDs would be good. Don't know where your crusade is coming from but you're just as bad as the rest claiming your view as law and everyone else as wrong.

And you won't find one oldfag who prefers current day to the old days.

>> No.13078855

>>13078852
that really depends on how old the old days you're talking about are

>> No.13078860

>>13078855
Last week

>> No.13078862

>>13078851
>/mgg/ asspain
Isn't it weird how they don't come and whine all over the board that there's a bunch of faggots attacking them for no reason with never-ending vitriol and contribute happily to the board? You dear ragefag, are the problem here not them. If you can't handle a single thread that isn't even on the front page most of the time you're too autistic to live.

>>13078852
Wouldn't it be nice if we could have IDs and see the truth of all of this and see what the community actually thinks?

>> No.13078872

>>13078834
>>13078852
>>13078862
Wow, way to have an argument with yourself in an effort to prove there was more than one pro-ID person in the thread. Good job, asshole.

>> No.13078877

>>13078862
>Isn't it weird how they don't come and whine all over the board that there's a bunch of faggots attacking them for no reason
/jp/ used to have a port of entry where newcomers were expected to conform to an existing set of expectations

as they are now, they're simply an enclave within the board which has nothing to do with it

yes, posts are "content" and therefore "contributions" but as it stands the threads aren't worth any more (or less) than if that one alice nutter had moved her super long super surreal roleplaying threads from /b/ to /jp/

>>13078862
do you remember what happened to the /q/ threads discussing the future of /jp/

1. they were still super fucking retarded
2. nobody wanted IDs anyway

>> No.13078886

>>13078862
Well as you can see from my post and the one above it, they were within a minute. That's how you find out it isn't samefag.

But no, people here seriously think that someone would go as far as to use 2 different devices with 2 different ips to make an agreeable post within seconds of each other just to give the appearance that someone else agrees with them. That's why it's fuckin useless. People will question the legitimacy NO MATTER WHAT.

>> No.13078889

>>13078877
>but as it stands the threads aren't worth any more (or less) than if that one alice nutter had moved her super long super surreal roleplaying threads from /b/ to /jp/

That's just like your opinion man.

>do you remember what happened to the /q/ threads discussing the future of /jp/

Citing /q/ threads as support for your argument? The fact that shit-stirring trolls tried to prevent a feature that would undoubtedly help this board direly in need of a cure is really not hard to believe.

>> No.13078896

>>13078889
>That's just like your opinion man.
roleplay, greentext, and fanfiction are historically not welcome in /jp/ - inside the thread they've set up their own culture (or rather they brought in an imported culture) that does not care to interface with /jp/ in any way

for the large part /jp/ leaves it alone, yes, but calling it a "valuable part of the board" is just dumb, almost nobody who didn't come in with the threads would care if it vanished into /vg/ or thin air tomorrow

>Citing /q/ threads as support for your argument? The fact that shit-stirring trolls tried to prevent a feature that would undoubtedly help this board direly in need of a cure is really not hard to believe.
it's a place that had IDs, so trolls shouldn't have been a problem, right?

also everybody knew who MQr was because he had a static IP and it still didn't stop thousands of posts from being wasted on his stupidity

>> No.13078897

>>13078872
Well way to help his case further(I was the second post you quoted).

See my response
>>13078886

Stop the bullshit japey detective shit. Your post is in agreement with why he wants IDs.

>> No.13078900

>>13078897
Look, we all know that you also made the >>13078872 post as part of a gambit to further support your argument, you can stop trying to mindscrew us into accepting your beliefs now.

>> No.13078901

>>13078896
I'm asking for the /pol/ ID system, the thing that took one of the shittiest boards on the site and made it noticeably better. I'm not asking for /q/ style IDs.

>> No.13078905

>>13078901
how was it that people were able to troll /q/ threads about /jp/ into fucking oblivion, then?

if anything /q/'s system was far stronger at deterring samefags, and yet the place was still a complete fuckfest

>> No.13078909

/jp/ sucks and is full of fags

i just want to talk about neet and weeb shit without a bunch of crybabies or general threads

>> No.13078912

>>13078905
How was it stronger than the /pol/ persistent ID? In what way is it stronger? Please enlighten me.

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Reading this thread I'm 99% sure that 9 out of 10 people who oppose IDs and/or any change in moderation or rules actually don't give a fuck about it and just want to look like le cool seasoned imageboard browsers pretending to be happy with the status of things because they're so used to it

That and faggot blasé autists who never got over their late teens and still think that being cynical about everything makes you look smart

captcha: e-nerd

>> No.13078918

>>13078912
as it persisted without reset and applied across threads, the identification of samefags should would be easier than the system in /pol/

assuming for the moment that /pol/ IDs were thread-individual and reset on a daily basis, i don't actually know how they work

>> No.13078926

>>13078909
Says the crybaby while drowning in irony.

>> No.13078927

>>13078918
>i don't actually know how they work
clearly

>> No.13078931

>>13078927
>clearly
okay /pol/-sama, enlighten us about the intricacies of your board for us country pumpkins

>> No.13078932

>pro-tip

If you constantly accuse people of being cross boarders enough times, you may have to accept that that is actually /jp/

>> No.13078939

>>13078353

You had a huge chance of using sage on any other given board and get called out on it so that's not really untrue.

>>13078926

I'm not crying I've just given up.

>> No.13078943

...Does anyone who matters care about this thread? Will they even bother to change anything just because a few samefags are complaining that reality doesn't match up to their nostalgia filter?

>> No.13078945

You can have an ID if you want, it's called a tripcode.

>> No.13078950

>>13078939
If you've really given up then leave. Stop ruining fun for everyone else when you're not even enjoying it yourself. Get help.

>> No.13078954

>>13078945
Ya know, good point. Maybe the in-favors should namefag it up since they're so for it. Lead by example.

>> No.13078956

>>13078950

I'm not ruining anybody's fun. There's no fun to be had in a meta thread.

>> No.13078961

>>13078954
Now we're back to the cult of personality argument.

>> No.13078967

>>13078961
Do you want IDs or no? The reason it's rare is because most people dislike it. Or so it seems. If there are as many people for it as you claim, then start using it and it will catch on. One day, people might ignore anonymous.

but that won't happen

>> No.13078969

Whatever happened to Gomenasai, but?

I loved to bully that idiot.

>> No.13078987

Anti-ID guy here, the namefag is right.

If anyone wants ID, start using a name/trip for themselves, don't force IDs on people who don't want it.

>> No.13078994

>>13078987
Put your trip back on

>> No.13079000

>>13078994
I used to have a trip, but not anymore, I'm just an anon now.

>> No.13079010

>>13078994
Can we just change this board name to /samefag/ already?

>> No.13079032

i hope they add post count when they implement id's. i want to see how many times i have posted.

>> No.13079040

Maybe I'm fucking retarded, but aren't IDs lifespan per thread?

>> No.13079051

If IDs are so awful why hasn't everyone left /pol/? Why has the board gotten leagues better and driven off the most extreme shitposters that had their laughs at the expense of thousands?

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>>13072909

I thought /jp/ INVENTED shitposting

>> No.13079100

>>13079051
I hope you aren't one of those who complain about "cross boarders"

>> No.13079114

>>13079051
As much as I like /pol/, /jp/ ain't /pol/.

Please take your IDs and shove it up your butt.

>> No.13079117

>>13079100
No because I'm not some elitist from /a/ trying to fit in. I don't use /pol/ as anything other than an alternative news source but there's an irony in the "kill crossboarders" logic. If you weren't a crossboarder from other boards you'd be a newfag that came here after 2008. Both are horrible and yet both are invoked simultaneously as insults.

The mind of the elitist is truly a sad maze of self-delusions.

>> No.13079150

>>13079117
Hey I think that shit is completely stupid myself. It's like you're only allowed to post on one board on the internet, some go as far as thinking you should only post in one general.

Why do you keep citing /a/ anyway?

>> No.13079153

>>13079117
you sound really smart, dude!

>> No.13079162

>>13079153
Without an argument and retreating to shitposting, what a surprise.

>> No.13079213

>>13078194
LURK
MOAR
Don't come in barging into other people homes with dogshit still on your shoes.

>> No.13079227

>>13078719
>There's a difference between an argument and arranging organized shitposting / trolling campaigns that ruin the fun for everyone
>arranging organized shitposting / trolling campaigns that ruin the fun for everyone
You mean like the exact thing 8gag is doing RIGHT NOW on the "weak" boards? This and many other threads end posts reek of the worst scum of /v/ shitposting and /pol/ meaningless circle arguing. Please leave us alone, this board is a place to take it easy and not to go to war on twitter agains the evil sjw overlords or whatever enemy your paranoia has thought out lately.

>> No.13079237

saging

>> No.13079237,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079227
jesus christ janny is starting to lose it

>> No.13079257

>>13079227
Nice try archive shitposter, you're not going to deflect the blame for your bullshit onto a dead site. When you're arguing that enjoying yourself on a board is colluding with some sort of international conspiracy you know you've lost it. Please get help.

>> No.13079259

>>13079213
>LURK
>MOAR

Please, clean the shit off your shoes first newfag

>> No.13079307

Thanks for this thread OP.

Now we see the true cancer killing /jp/.

Nothing but everyone calling samefag, telling them to gb2whereverthefuck, and most likely too many underage people.

I've noticed the mods have just been letting us swim in our own shit lately because everyone finds something wrong in everything with everyone.

inb4gb2redditnewfag/samefag. Go to sleep. You probably have school in the morning.

>> No.13079308

>>13079307
It's better that way.

Fuck mods, fuck jannies.

Manifest destiny!

>> No.13079312

>>13079307
Thanks for the constructive post, friend.

>> No.13079312,1 [INTERNAL] 

IDs make samefagging easier/more believable.

>> No.13079312,2 [INTERNAL] 

there are people on every board who are so steamed they literally want ids

>> No.13079363

>>13079307
there's something ironic about this post but i can't pinpoint what it is

>> No.13079366

[x] kill everyone in this thread

>> No.13079366,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079312,2
I will piss myself laughing if every board ends up with ids on 4chan because the users demand them.

>> No.13079409

>>13079366
Including yourself?

>> No.13079416

>>13079409
Especially myself

>> No.13079493

This board should be repurposed into Japanese Games General like it was originally meant to be.
It would also divert traffic from /vg/

>> No.13079493,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079051
alot of people left though

>> No.13079493,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,1
how would u know

>> No.13079493,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>13078834
I really hope this is a janitor.

>> No.13079493,4 [INTERNAL] 

You guys need to adapt your shitposting strategies.

>> No.13079493,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,4
personally i've started greentexting and talking about myself a lot more
and using /v/ memes + reaction images
never been deleted once ;)

>> No.13079493,6 [INTERNAL] 

what's legitimately funny is that people actually care about 2015 jp enough to warrant this thread, it's been dead for ages make like everyone whos anyone else and leave this place for greener pastures.
The archaic jaypee we knew is long dead, replaced by endless niche generals governed by a cat who allows no fun.

jannie's palace

>> No.13079493,7 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,2
why

>> No.13079493,8 [INTERNAL] 

do these guys seriously think we need IDs on /jp/ or is it a bunch of wubros trolling the staff member who created this thread?

>> No.13079493,9 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,8

Has to be a troll.

>> No.13079493,10 [INTERNAL] 

deleted after days

janny is schizo

>> No.13079493,11 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,10
lol

>> No.13079493,12 [INTERNAL] 

Who cares there are like 20 users online at max on /jp/ every day.

>> No.13079493,13 [INTERNAL] 

IDs are the safefguard of every newfag

>> No.13079493,14 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,2
it's used to rival /a/ in terms of activity, now it barely competes with /tg/

>> No.13079493,15 [INTERNAL] 

>IDs

"Hey guys, I'm gonna make an anonymous imageboard but give everyone unique identities so they aren't anonymous!"

- Le Grand Kike

>> No.13079493,16 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,15
he's gone now, if that makes you feel any better

>> No.13079493,17 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,16
I'll be satisfied when they find his body in a dumpster.

>> No.13079493,18 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,15
everyone who wants IDs is literally from gamergate because that's how they have it on teenbrochan

even moot was not that dumb&gay

>> No.13079493,19 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,18
pretty sure everyone who wants IDs are idiots who think they can stop "shitposting:

>> No.13079493,20 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,19
yeah but they have 8chan influence

>> No.13079493,21 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,18
>even moot was not that dumb&gay

Moot put IDs on /b/ dude a long time ago

>> No.13079493,22 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,20
such as

>> No.13079493,23 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,22
such as literally being from gamergate and posting all over it

>>13079493,21
nobody cared about /b/ for a long time

he has also put it on other boards as an epic troll measure

but it would have never been a sitewide thing

>> No.13079493,24 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,23
yeah but he put it on /b/ unironically to stop shitposting

>> No.13079493,25 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,24
but nobody cared about /b/ at that point

I guess these people could have been from /b/ in that era too but I like my gamergate theory

>> No.13079493,26 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,25
but the point is moot certainly isn't "above this"

>> No.13079493,27 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,26
it was still localized

>> No.13079493,28 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,25
gay

>> No.13079493,29 [INTERNAL] 

>>13078010,1
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/41126772/#41127248

they actually defend them

>> No.13079493,30 [INTERNAL] 

Janny doesn't even enforce "quality of posts" unless it reminds him of Warosu. What makes these retards think that he'll enforce it to the point that he rids the board of crossie scums?

>> No.13079493,31 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,29
>/a/ here. Could you explain? I don't see any problem with current /a/. It is as good (if not better) as ever.

I am honestly speechless.

>> No.13079493,32 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,31
Well apparently you weren't, liar.

>> No.13079493,33 [INTERNAL] 

>>13079493,31
It's a subhuman HUEHUEHUE, what did you expect?

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