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i told you about the stairs edition

new thread because old hit bump limit >>13026173

>> No.13066476
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>>13066292
First for Inferno Mode: Snail tourist of Eyth, no pets (incl no riding), no hiring adventurers, no gene file, final destination. Do you have what it takes to unlock the gate of Leismas and kill the chaos that is Zeome?

Are you a bad enough dude to Take it Easy???

>> No.13066502

new spritesheet when?

>> No.13066525

>>13066476
WHAT IF
I DO THIS
AND DRAW A COMIC ABOUT IT AS WELL

and then end up almost never drawing any comics weekly because I lack the money needed for a Monster Hunter 4U bundle and I waste days upon days looking for commissions

also what exactly is a gene file

>> No.13066526

>>13066292
>i told you about the stairs edition
So the /jp/-/vg/ merge is finally over, can' wait for all the memes and reaction pics xDD

>> No.13066546

/dcssg/ pls go

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>>13065623

Attribute, at least on pets, doesn't seem to be affected by enemy's resistances (or either scales quite hard off of MA skill). I experimented a bit with the different elements (including "magic") and none of them seemed to hit any differently.

Anyways, I have a golden knight that hits things for about 6k. The attribute hit is about 3k. I made sure nether is her highest resistance. As long as things don't 1-shot her and she isn't significantly slower than enemies, she essentially never dies because of the nether healing.

Pic related.

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>>13066604

>> No.13066632

>>13066525
It's when after you marry your waifu while holding ~200 of your finest collection of inheritable equipment and items you talk and select make a gene iirc. Then it's all in the heir trunk when you generate a character -> from gene file. It's pretty trivial to puppy cave a couple deeds of heirship and that will let you get enough good pieces to begin a steamroll of dosh and reclaimed goods. Think day 1 snail in a godly composite helm, godly feather, with a living force weapon or something. I don't think you can actually inherit those but the point is still there. Instead of dealing with a bronze claymore and rank 20 shopkeepers you have entire sets of top of the line endgame gear a couple deeds of heirship away.

>>13066526
Well at least you have the "ironic" shitposting down so you're hauling your half!

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>>13066607
>a sleep sheep

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I'm sorta new to Elona.
What is the little yellow bar that "accrues" every now and then? Can't find out what it does because I don't know the name of it.

>> No.13067047

>>13067024
That's your special gauge. It's used for some high-power skills that you won't have for a long time, and when it hits 100% you can use the gauge release skill to make your next attack do loads of damage.

It decreases over time, increases when you take damage or hit things.

>> No.13067065

>>13067024
Your bread and butter for making things like crabs and wild pigglets earlygame into blood splatters.

>> No.13067075

>>13067065
FUCK child boars.

>> No.13067162

Is there an ascii mode? Would it even be possible to play that way?

>> No.13067201

>>13067024
Take things slow. The game tells you a lot in the help menu and in those pop-up screens.

>> No.13067378

>>13067024
>>13067047
>>13067201
Sorry guys, I'm retarded.
Thank you for helping me out.
Hopefully starting as a farmer wasn't a bad idea...

>> No.13067410

>>13067378
The good news is that you can garden for food and herbs and all sorts of good stuff as soon as you buy a deed of farm.
The better news is that picking a less combat oriented class doesn't really matter late-game. Or even mid-game.
The bad news is that it does matter early-game, which is where you are. You'll be a bit weaker in combat for a while. Your pet(s)'ll do just fine, and they get extra bonuses from good food. So feed your pet(s).

>> No.13067437

>>13067378
Don't worry too much about it. The early game is a shithole of poverty and comparatively low costs. You can change your class and class feat later with a business card if it bothers you. With decent gear and incog/disguise kits you can learn all the skills. With platinum your starting skills are mostly convenience if you don't mind the extra time to unlock and train them up. You're going to be going a fair bit of gardening for plat already and it's a decent sourc of dosh for getting investment going for potions of potential and better gear.

You'll easily get a lot of dosh to first buy a complete set of gear then a slightly less shit set and enchant it at the blacksmith. That'll carry you until you get enough plat invested and ground in easy fights that you're essentially at the same starting point just a little later and with more dosh. And even then, a loli will carry anything through the early game if you just equip it and periodicalyl up the gears enchants a notch.

>> No.13067575

>>13067378
Starting out as a farmer instead of rushing out to get yourself killed in the local dungeon at the very start of the game has its perks. I just started a new game myself as a gunner but instead of shooting up dungeons I decided the first thing I'd do is get myself the gardening skill. I'm taking on harvest quests which is helping me raise my strength and constitution stats along with gardening. I'm using the platinum coins I get from completing those quests to learn other skills necessary for survival such as cooking. The seeds I also get from the completing those quests I use to create my own garden in my shithole of a cave/home. All things considered I should be in a good place to start actually adventuring soon now that I have more life(str/con) and a food supply from my garden. Starvation is one of the leading causes of death in Elona it seems.

>> No.13067595

>>13067410
Except new players don't know how to make the 50,000 gold it takes to buy a farm and don't know how to exploit farming so that it's worth doing.

>> No.13067613

What exactly is the deal with werewolfs? Everytime they answer "..." I ask the town to execute them or kill them myself, they never drop anything

is there something more to it or just unfinished?

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Can I kill gods yet?

>> No.13067836

>>13067763
_no

>> No.13067980

>>13067595
>I want farm
>Sixty niggers that's expensive!
>Not spend shit
>Do 15 <L8 dungeons/escort/hunting - pet kills
>Git farm
>Cooked food yields more dosh every time as cooking+gardening rises

>> No.13068011

>>13067763
It's weird seeing someone with twice my level and almost twice my stats with a third of my play time. I mean, I know I screw around a lot doing pointless things, but geez.

>> No.13068268

I want /vg/ to leave

>> No.13068750

>>13067613
If you ever see a new random villager who isn't normally there, accuse them of being a werewolf

I've never actually seen a werewolf in a town though, that's just what the wiki says. Supposedly you can also find disguised Fox/Kitsune in town, but I've only seen them in the wild.
But maybe I just don't pay enough attention to random citizens to notice.

>> No.13069203

>>13067763
How'd you get your stats so high? Damn son!

>> No.13069207

>>13067613
They usually have some decent material/base Item stuff. They're an alright target once you get pickpocket off the ground but you still need basic high-end gear/materials.

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>>13066292
You're all fags and your shit is stupid edition!

Previous thread: >>13026173

Elona+ is at 1.42 pending a bugfix?
Download: http://wikiwiki.jp/elonaplus/
Elona Wiki: http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki
Elona Story (spoilers): http://elona.squares.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5025
Elonapasta(/jp/ edition?): http://pastebin.com/T2RCwdh8
Elona pasta: http://pastebin.com/bdHxMfJ7
Elona pasta(/rlg/ edition): http://pastebin.com/tU9qkAqt
Elona+ pastebin, courtesy of /vg/'s roguelike general: http://pastebin.com/bAsNMaBk (hasn't been updated since February)
/jp/ music pack from archive (may not work with more recent maps): https://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/11312711/

>> No.13069352

>>13069286
>all this pastebin shit
jesus christ this isn't /vg/

>> No.13069363

>>13066502
I'm on it. I've been kinda busy again with real life stuff, but I'll update it in the pastebin.

>>13067162
nope, and probably not.

>>13069286
You really dont need but maybe two of those links, everything else is outdated or already included.
Just use the /jp/ pastebin, I made sure to have it include all the other stuff, and what's not in there I could easily update.

>> No.13069382

>>13069352
Then take care of your OP faggot.

>>13069363
I threw it all in there cause I can't be bothered to keep up with which autist is having a fit over there not being enough semicolons this week. Ya'll can sort it out yerselves and maybe take care of your OP next time.

>> No.13069479

Which two are needed? I would think the wiki link is a given but what is the other one?

Also why are we cigarettes?

>> No.13069538

>>13069479
http://pastebin.com/T2RCwdh8

This one.

>> No.13069554

>Starter brown bear doesn't have a body slot
Oh lord why....

>> No.13069562

>>13069554
there's a reason everyone goes with the little girl, anon.

>> No.13069573

>>13069562
But muh 160 life....

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>> No.13069596

>>13069585
I feel pretty bad for not being able to grab them when they scream "G-Give me your hands!", because you can't give them your hands.

>> No.13069605

This game looks interesting, tell me moar.

Has anyone done any touhou custom stuff in this yet and do they have screencaps?

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>>13069605
It is a great weaboo grindan simulator + waifu dating sim

Read: http://pastebin.com/T2RCwdh8
The wiki has a large amount of beginner's resources on its main page

Undoubtedly, look around on the nip custom sprite source. there's probably a 2hu mod.

>> No.13069708

>>13069632
Typical day in Elona I see.

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>>13069605
I have some Touhou and other junk I added to my spritesheet. Also, I've been trying to piece together a touhou MC but just cant find the right braids.

>> No.13070329

>>13066476
Jesus christ, I died at the tutorial with this.

Quick question, is this even possible without cheesing + grinding for a good 300 hours?

>> No.13070360

>>13070329
Putits are huge! That means they have huge gattsu! RIP AND TEAR!

Yes. I was into the late teens before I herpaderped into a cleaner and got wrecked. I was doing fine until then.

>> No.13070393

>>13069596
Me too
I thought you could do something at first, but nope

Glad all my pets have float at least

>> No.13070404

>>13069605
There are a bunch of touhou custom npcs floating around that you can put into the game

A long time ago they were passed around in the elona threads on /jp/ and my game is full of them, but I forgot where you can get them all.

>> No.13070837

I'm kinda interested about Elona. What I can do in this game?

>> No.13070877

>>13070837
u can do
everything

>> No.13070923

>>13070837
Fight things, fight more things, die not infrequently, amass an army of pets to help you fight, attempt to sleep with those pets, gather mostly randomized equipment, complete missions for gold, train a wide variety of skills, have farms to grow food or magical items, have a ranch to breed more pets-- usually to eat-- have a museum to show off some of your kills, a store to have a pet you've designated as a shopkeeper sell your stuff for you, worship a god, get items from that god, potentially become strong enough to kill that god and then the hyper-powerful inner god that appears for their absurdly powerful weapons, use a machine to combine pets, prostitute yourself for money, sell your wives/husbands to a lecherous old man, buy a castle, become an incredibly skilled musician, make lightsabres...

Oh and if you sleep with a pet you can make a gene file to pass whatever you have in your inventory and some extra currencies to a new character who is your kid to start all over.

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>>13070837
Be the little murderhobo
Be a traveling merchant selling cargo high and buying low
Retire as a gardening chef
Become a prostitute and sell yourself to nobles
Honor and cherish your waifu on your anniversary, valentines, and festival of jure.
Implant a butt baby into your waifu
Be the dickass thief stealing everything in sight from anybody
Kill all the guards and rule the town as an outlaw
Be the nigh invulnerable warrior slowly but inexorably marching forward to bring the dungeon rulers death
You can be a crafter hawking your wares
You can hire adventurers to protect you as you strip-mine dungeons to the bone for precious ores
You can run a shop and sell your finds to wandering customers who top by
Fuck a sheep in the butt
Be a lich whizzard obliterating everything on-screen and beyond
Cut trees and stone to make furniture
Furnish and staff a small castle with the finest of goods and shopkeepers
Marry wimmens as fast as you can for the wedding gifts then sell them to the womanizer or murder them
Be a fishmonger
Trap monsters in pogeyman balls to be laughed at and controlled for all time
Give a 6 year old 2 stone fairy thief a 30 stone adamantine hammer of illusion
Befriend, fuck, bribe and schmooze adventurers with gifts so that you can get much more valuable ones come new years
Participate in the orgy of excess that is the festival of jure
Pick up all the gods for their gifts then dump them like the cheap whores they are. Sorry Eheketal/Kumi, Ya'll alright
Breed and train a valentines chocolate pudding spirit/putit/snail to be more powerful than a dog god
Join the thieves guild only to train your pickpocket by repeatedly stealing the thieves guild members bare then killing all of them.
Have a good 13 actual storage houses at item limit full of "valuable" armors and weapons you haven't even touched in 4 in-game years with no end of your hoarding in sight
And more

In the game of Elona you can be whatever you want to be

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>>13070935
>Be the dickass thief stealing everything in sight from anybody
You can steal ANYTHING!
(Except money and precious items...)

>Sorry Eheketal/Kumi, Ya'll alright
Tru dat

>> No.13071006

>>13070990
>Steal millions worth of equipment off them
>Fuck tens of thousands gold out of them per go
>Now that they're running on their MA and defense skills with no armor supporting you just kill them for the precious item

>> No.13071070

>>13070923
>>13070935
World is dynamic or just everything is static?
Can I build a house?
You can fug and get girls pregnant and then look them having babies? It's possible to have interacial babies?
Do people get older and older?
Can I take over the world?

>> No.13071071

>>13071006
But anon, MA is better than the shitty weapons they spawn with. Why are you buffing them by stealing their paper katana?

>> No.13071114

>>13071070
dynamic, yes, yes, yes and yes even you get older, yes

>>13071071
Investment is a hell of a drug. And them werewolves son....

>> No.13071179

>>13071070
Set world map with randomized dungeon that come and go.
You can build a house. They come in varying sizes. They're single floor only by default but you can buy upstairs/downstairs steps to have more levels. You can also customize the floor based on the tileset.
No pregnancy, just gene files. You can sleep with anything you can manage to get to a certain love level as a pet though. OK, well, you could be an alien and they do technically have a pregnancy attack but that's kind of a niche thing.
Things age but it doesn't seem to matter. You can also de-age (or age) yourself with potions.
You can't really take over anything as far as I'm aware. You can try to reach the top of the adventurer list (all the other adventurers are NPCs that are generated and sort of do stuff on their own).

>> No.13071185

>>13071114
>all these yes
You have me, but now I have to get new GPU because old one is damaged and shits itself when drivers are installed. Dammit.

>> No.13071187

>>13071179
>tfw you alien wife impregnates a bunch of adventurers who spread you alien babies across the entire world
Oh man, I forgot about that. Good times.

>>13071185
I think you can change the vidya setting to something less bitch that maybe your just your mobo could handle.

>> No.13071195

>>13071179
And my hype went to fuck itself a bit.
Are there future plans for game?

>> No.13071202

>>13071187
>I think you can change the vidya setting to something less bitch that maybe your just your mobo could handle.
After installing drivers even desktop fucks itself. I have graphics glitches on window's logo at very launch.

>> No.13071221

>>13071187
I had a game where aliens got into Palmia somehow, impregnated several people including guards, and were so strong and persistent even my higher-level bell types were too slow to take care of them. I was giving acids/dyes to everyone in sight and they just kept coming.

I ended up nuking the city and the only thing left standing were the aliens who did not appear to have been harmed.

>>13071195
It's still being developed, though mostly quest stuff and fairly high-level things to do.

>> No.13071230

>>13071221
That's why I love them so much. They get in the high level shit and every time a guard dies it comes back stronger. Every traveler is the chance of a top-tier adventurer getting infected. And in your most desperate moment it hits you that a nuke, the most potent weapon you have cannot save you.

>> No.13071235

>>13071221
>I ended up nuking the city and the only thing left standing were the aliens who did not appear to have been harmed.
Sounds like a bug.

>> No.13071255

is there a way to permanently fuck a character?

mutations can be cured, at minimum karma if you can't fight the guards you can still stay at derphy doing quests to get karma back

>> No.13071270

>>13071255
drink every well with shit tier luck and fuck every single moving object and drop every item you have

summon monster rod 10 times in your spawn/home

grats you did it

>> No.13071275

>>13071235
I'm really just wondering if it's possible to dodge it with Greater Evasion, since they were so high level they might've had a good chance. Or they just healed by the time I got back there. Or maybe something else.

>> No.13071280

>>13071235
>>13071275
Not a bug. Nukes just deal ~1000 damage to everything. That's chump change for a high level character.

>> No.13071286

>>13071280
Oh, only 1k? Yeah that's plenty survivable. Atlases hit harder than that.

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>>13071235
No dawg, you don't understand. These are alieums. They have no fucks to give about such petty damage.

>>13071255
You don't need to have extra limbs and shit to spam the reset my limbs for -life at the ambitious sci. I guess that's not permanent unless you can hit 0 life and you're permadead or something. But still, that's a lot of fucking little sisters.

>> No.13071323

>>13071255
It sucks blood ### equips with less than 10 con.
I never made it out of my house.

>> No.13071345

>>13071323
Even if it was cursed onto you after tens of thousands of deaths wouldn't you eventually hit that microscopic chance that it will get destroyed by your death? I've lost some nice shit to those over the years

>> No.13071363

>>13071345
Not if it's precious. Like, say, the sacrifice tonfa.

>> No.13071390

>>13071363
Oh god, what a heartbreaking end.

>> No.13071548

Does anyone have a musiclist that consists of .wav files instead of .mp3's?

Only thing I'm missing is music in this game and seemingly .mp3's dont function while .wav's do for loonix.

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For all you crazy fuckers that play snails,
now you can really be a snail!
Just name it pcc_body_3 (or whatever number if you already have more) and shove it in the pcc folder, then turn off eyes/clothes/etc in char creation (and pick pcc_body_3 obviously) and turn off clothing displays at a mirror and you'll truly be a snail for life.
Blue to be able to tell yourself apart from other snails.
You'll probably still look like shit if you ride though.

>> No.13073043

Food question - is the stat improvement gained from foods affected by your stat potentials or is it static?

>> No.13073053

>>13073043
Affected by potential.

>> No.13073418

Okay I give up, what have I done wrong?
I started up the game, said I want to do the tutorial and then the game started running in super fast mode, where my character runs in place, the npcs are making circles around me at hyper speeds and the textbook is scrolling nonstop. I wait about a minute and then I starve to death and the same thing repeats when I reload the game.
None of the keys are responding either.

>> No.13073472

>>13073418
You have a stuck key.

>> No.13073619

>>13073418
>>13073472
I used to fix that by restarting the computer, as pressing the stuck key didn't work for me. Someone posted a really easy and quick fix once but I completely forgot it, my bad.

>> No.13074592

>Lich wizard
>Take +5 manax5 feat
>Get 13 pieces of dawn cloth
Will I become god?

>> No.13074601

How heavy of an impact does your race and class have on you in the long run?

Like for example say I want to run a heavy armored axe wielder who magics for ranged combat and axes for melee, would it be best to warmage or go pure warrior or wizard?

I don't want to be forced to min max because of the monsters being scaled to your level or some shit.

>> No.13074631

>>13074601
Race doesn't have too much of an impact,
unless you're doing a snail challenge or something.
All drawbacks can be compensated for just by farming a bit more.

Class matters only in the early game if you don't want to use pets.
You can change your class perk anyways after you get a business card, which you can easily get from blackjack.

>> No.13074640

>>13074631
>All drawbacks can be compensated for just by farming a bit more.

compensate fairies not able to equip pretty much anything

>> No.13074665

>>13074601
Your class feat can be changed with I think a business card.
Life will be raised by hero cheeses from farming the turn in little sisters quest if you pick say, a lich
Mana can be raised by the other thingy
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Gavela can fix your slots if you are say, a snail then you grind the life back up via hero cheese
Bad attribute potential is made up for by that the earlygame can be carried by a pet/attribute randarts+base/blessed restore until you have potions of potential/picnic baskets
Low skill and low skill potential is made up for by spending plat, grinding gardening jobs, and grinding the skill
Low starter str/con can be coped with by some gardening/mining, then a blessed pot of restore body
Skills you don't have will be learned, guilds raided under cover of incognito+heavy armory enchants
You will spend AP to raise your speed in south tyris
Casting penalties will be somewhat supplemented by absurd casting ranks and practice
Grind magic capacity like a fiend and watch shit with MP drain
Randarts/living weapons/ of [element] will provide a buttload of resists once you have enough fame/investment to run into them fairly commonly
You'll limp by fine on a fairy until you're rich as croesus and have enough investment time and gold to flying scroll your OP randart/fixedart shit

So beyond an easier start, I'd say extra limbs from a mutant that will always be riding without a life penalty to make up, fairy resists, golem dim resist, reduced snail slots. Arguably the misc resists and different life/mana scores of the races for a better start point and racial feats like elea reduced magic capacity damage.

>>13074640
M-Muh flying scrolls
M-Muh gene files

>> No.13074994

Can I teach pets or partied adventurers new skills/spells? Stuff like that?

>> No.13075018

>>13074601
The better question is why would you? Shadowstep will jump you right into hitdudes range. Fawn on/web/slow sources will lock down kiters faster than you unless it's too fast. If you don't one-shot in melee you need to be training that skill. If you can, then you don't need to take a 120 hour detour to raise like 6 skills to absurd levels so you can crystal spear shit. Over time melee has gotten a lot of buffs to help it compete with magic and ranged who don't have to walk over to pound shit into jelly so really think on it. After a short warm-up you'll be able to jump into the face of shit as soon as it's in LoS then maul it death. And again, consider that you'll get shining wave, essentially a crystal spear, which runs off your strength and tactics but without diverting a googilion hours into bringing a bunch of other skills up to par.

There's nothing stopping you from getting that heavy armor magic ball spamming wrecking ball if you're willing to go balls deep but consider just how much time that's gonna take. Also consider that you're probably not gonna hit the +spell damage cap with only one staff in your shoot slot, you're gonna need a lot of casting to deal with the heavy armor casting penalty. Like, a lo^20t of casting. And even then it's probably gonna be like a 60% success rate or worse. Not that that is terrible considering you're hitting all the dudes but it's not great either.

Think of it like this. The wider your focus the more time/cost/luck it's gonna take to function at a comparable level if you stayed narrow. That the more you siphon off of killdudes/notdietodudes into utility/misc the more weight it has to pull and/or the more time it takes to cope

>>13074994
Once you unlock south tyris you can spend AP to do that. http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/AP

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Im around level 13, and I've been doing cargo quests from port kapul to noyel and back. I can handle the pirate boss raids with ease, thus netting even more cargo/profits from their loot

is this the best way to make money at this point? Sure as heck seems so.

>> No.13075148

>>13075081
Yeah, it's one of the traditional ways to get your feet off the ground

>> No.13075155

>>13074592
No, but you'll be spellspammy as all hell, and your mana bursts will be terrifying to behold.

>>13075018
No amount of casting skill will overcome armor penalties.

>> No.13075184

>>13075155
Still, topping out at 82% with enough casting and level in the spell isn't too bad. Sure as fuck isn't good but if that's what his boner craves he can do it. Am I right?

>> No.13075274

>>13075018
>>13075155
Light armor is where it's at

No spell penalty and there are some really great late game light armors
It's not even that hard to keep, use flying scrolls on your best items and wear griffon scale. You can still have good DV/PV with light armor

>> No.13075364

>>13075274
>>13074601

>> No.13075404

>>13073619
If you have a controller, unplug it.
If you have a keypad or extended keyboard thing, unplug it.
Check your numlock.

>> No.13075420

>>13075184
Oh yeah, heavy armor caster works fine. Losing ~1/5th of your offense hurts a bit, but you also train spells 25% faster in terms of training per fight. It balances out close to even over time. The main drawback is all the wasted stock, but mages guild solves that.

>> No.13075530

Haven't played this game in a few years. can I just slap the 1.41 spritepack and interface onto the 1.42 version or is there issues with that? If there is a problem with that does anyone have a backup of 1.41fixed?

>> No.13075601

>>13075530
Refresh the pastebin, 1.42 sprite sheet should be in it now. Can't post puush links anymore, even with spoiler tags.

>> No.13075633

>>13075601
Ah okay, thanks!

>> No.13075648

>>13075601
>Can't post puush links anymore, even with spoiler tags.
Oh wow, that's really dumb.

>> No.13075654

Anyone play with a controller? Is it painful compared to not using the keyboard? I don't have a numpad so its probably a bad idea to use the keyboard.

>> No.13075664

>>13075648
There's a fake push now with a different number of u's or something. You should be using pomf.se anyway.

>> No.13075734

>tfw obsessed with progress and clean slates
>tfw start characters that go to mid thirties at most and then stop
Oh well, I still manage to enjoy the game for a few dozen hours at a time.

>> No.13075742

>>13075664
I like being able to keep track of my uploads though.

>> No.13075751

I wish the size limit for PCC sprites wasn't so small, can't really do anything cool if you want to customize.

>> No.13075761

>>13075734
We should start an altaholics anonymous group friend

>> No.13075781

>>13075761
yes, we must

>> No.13075819

>>13075781
>Get a new pet
>Smash a kitty bank with 5 mil in it and let it pick it up
>Mash rest and watch all dat trainan
>Dat honeymoon period of something dinging every fight
It ruined Elona+ for me anon. I can't stop

>> No.13075865

>>13075819
>building your character from the ground-up
>gathering each platinum for new skills and their potential
>Actually finding new and useful gear
>building a house from the ground-up
>not having to worry about any mid-endgame shit
Truly is life for me

>> No.13075893

>>13075865
Snail tourist when?

>> No.13075904

>>13075893
Probably never because snail sounds like the single most unfun thing ever, but I'll consider tourist, idk.
I was about to do a Roran warmage and grab scythes and work on necromancy.

>> No.13076024

>>13075904
Do it, the slower speed and less slots changes it up. It's pretty fresh

>> No.13076043

If I enable wizard mode with CE or elosnack and then turn it off, will my character still be ineligable to have my character for gene transference?

>> No.13076050

>>13076024
but I like muh slots anon ):

>> No.13076055

>>13075654
i play exclusively with a DS3.
The only complaint I have thus far is there's no way to dig using the controller. There was on normal elona, but not on elona+. I have to reach over and Shift+D.

other than that, its surpisingly good

>> No.13076070

>>13075654
I don't but from what I've tried it seems pretty good, you'd probably get used to it after a bit.

>> No.13076081

>>13076050
Change is good anon, live on the wild side. Do you even do mutants with a pack of mutant pets?

>> No.13076099

>>13076081
change isn't always good, and no, as far as character themes go I tend to vary and make different things but I dislike things like undeads and mutants as a theme in general.

>>13075904
I was gonna try to get a god with a weapon I can use, but kumi scythe won't be 2handable unless I spam cursed flying scrolls which would be stupid and take really long, and by then I'd have zeome's I guess.

>> No.13076103

>>13076043
As long as you turn it off, it should work. I used to use wizmode to check stats, and forgot it was on several times and saved, after which I had to use Elosnack to turn it off. I was able to use the same character later to create a gene.

>> No.13076145

>>13076103
yeah, checking stats exactly what I need to use it for, I am comparing some stats of different equipment across different pets. i realize theres a guy who does this but he charges like 1k a pop.

thanks

>> No.13076193

>>13076050
> ):
Kill yourself.

>> No.13076199

>>13076193
>being a generic sheeple sperglord
nah, you should kill yourself though.

>> No.13076207 [DELETED] 

>>13076193
That's pointless, /a/v/ kiddies never learn.

>> No.13076381

>>13076145
if 1k is still something you can't just waste on a whim then you aren't at a point where you need to bother minmaxing pets yet

>> No.13076394

>>13076081
>Change is good anon
not when it's just a massive downgrade of everything, it adds nothing but a layer of grinding on top of Elona grinding

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is it true that the little girl slaves are better than the one you start out with?

if so, I should just gene her with another pet and buy a little girl from the slave trader, right?

>> No.13076437

>>13076425
They're slightly higher level. If your girl's already at or above level five, no point.

>> No.13076472

>>13069780
mystia?

>> No.13076478

>>13069939
is that for 1.42?

>> No.13076775

>>13076478
looks like it.

>> No.13076893

why can't i whore myself? i give drinks to people and select the option but it always interrupts with the "i don't know that girl" message

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>tfw there's a fishing pole at the general vendor in vernis on your first trip there as a tourist
I'm on inferno mode so no doubt I'm gonna get ganked hard but fuck if I'm not gonna put in a good try first.

>>13076893
I think it's just a chance. Pop on two engagement rings and go into party time jobs to kill all the beggars for a beggar's pendant. Once I had a lot of Charisma I rarely got it even when other dudes were nearby.

>> No.13077005

>>13076947
So, realtalk time. How much do the itzpalt +resists from faith add up to? Between that and the elemental staff in my shoot slot I may vaguely function in low level dungeons. But then Lulwy will give me the ability to flee better and very slightly prop up my nonexistent speed. Then there's eheketal who's the patron saint of snail tourists.

There's just enough static medals to get the shield tonfa for the shoot slot as an early starting swap once I can enchant my scale cloak enough to have a small chance of not dying en route but beyond that I'm totally lost. Loving Snail tourist life so far.

>> No.13077186

why are there suddenly tons of washing baskets everywhere I go? they aren't claimed

>> No.13077195

>>13077186
I haven't noticed more post-patch than normal, probably just coincidence.

>> No.13077203

Is there a pastebin for this game? or any other beginner's guide?

>> No.13077222

>>13077203
You could try searching the thread for "pastebin" to find out.

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>>13077005
>I need to rest so I can dimension door if there's an ambush in the next couple wilderness tiles
>Don't do it anon! Rule of hilarity means there's a kobold in them there wilds
>Mash wait
>Ded right after I get weight lifting
I don't know what I expected really....

Look at this retarded Snail Tourist. Look at it and laugh.

>> No.13077294

>>13077233
So is there any way to gain extra slots or are you stuck wiht 3 forever?

>> No.13077342

>>13077222
Thank you, my sassy friend.

>> No.13077354

>>13077294
Dr. Gavela in south tyris

>> No.13077444

>>13077354
Ah that guy, I thought he only removed limbs. Interesting.

>> No.13077472

>>13077444
What did you think he does with the limbs he removes?
rhetorical/humorous question, response unnecessary

>> No.13077490

has anyone figured out what exactly tagging does?

>> No.13077513

>>13077233
You can merely just wait normally instead of using the rest function.

Rest is literally just a forced fast forwarded waiting period.

>> No.13077541

>>13077513
It sounds like he did, but instead of tapping the key like a reasonable person he just held it down until it was too late. Literally asking for death so he could post it in his favorite /elona general/.

>> No.13077676

>>13077490
Everybody here except you.

>> No.13077678
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13077678

Can I get this to stop happening?

>> No.13077706

>>13077678
"protects you from thieves" equipment

>> No.13077711

>>13077678
There is a certain equipment feat/attribute that gives protection against thieves.

>> No.13077759

>>13077678
Speaking of the random shit, is there a way to prevent having your body changed from nightmares? That shit's messed up.

>> No.13077790

>>13077759
Yeah, reading the wiki helps.

>> No.13077809

>>13077759
Sleeping in better beds helps reduce the number of bad dreams. Even if you end up changing or losing a beneficial mutation it's easily remedied by drinking certain potions.

>> No.13077923

>>13069632
>waifu dating sim
Elaborate, I've looked into this game a little, but how do you waifu?
Pets? Customized Adventurers or some other mod? Do people waifu the gods or something?

For example, say I would like to go on adventures with touhous, how would I best do that?

>> No.13078269

>>13077678
This happens but it shouldn't be too often, if it does check if you have cursed equipment. Uncurse at the town's healer for 2500 gold or use uncurse scrolls.

>> No.13078448

>>13077923
The cheap and easy way would be to just import touhou graphics being a character sprite and a portrait, and change a pet little girls sprites to that.

More immersive than that, see link.
http://elona.squares.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3236

Don't know if there's a better or more immersive way to do that, someone else would be better asked for that amount of customization.
Still relatively new at this.

>> No.13078631

Does anybody know what pets use the fishing skill for? My pets keep ranking up in it after killing stuff.

>> No.13078694

>>13078631
You could at least try.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona%2B#Other_changes

>> No.13078716

>>13078694
I checked the fishing page, anon. Why the hell would information about fishing not be on the fishing page?

>> No.13078779

>>13078716
It is listed in there, saying that pet kills may grant them materials which you can fetch.

>> No.13078831

So I started out as a wizard and ended up running out of spells. Is there a good way to farm damage spells or should I just rely on my pet more?

>> No.13078859

>>13078831
In the very early game there is no good way. Just pretend you're a warrior for a little while until you find some more.

>> No.13078887

>>13078831
>>13078859
try grabbing a grenade or shuriken from a weapon shop, probably more reliable than meleeing

>> No.13078951

>>13078779
Apparently I need equipment that prevents blindness.

>>13078831
How early game are you? Can you melee/shoot/pet your way around around the puppy cave? Because if so, grinding the puppy cave for books is pretty safe.

>> No.13078982

Which is better for Jewels of Tear of God? Magic damage or absolute pierce?

>> No.13079083

Do young ladies and their evolved forms make good pets? Not sure if I should drop the 25 medals, that "throw potion" ability I read about makes me a little cautious.

>> No.13079086

>>13077541
Some day we'll get stop rest on mon enters LoS toggle

>> No.13079273

what pet is best upgrade from wild horse for riding? no tyrannos or race of yth because cant dominate yet

>> No.13079448

Will I miss out on anything by playing in overdose mode?
Like locked out of some content or something?
Not particularly interested in using babby characters.

>> No.13079585

>>13070837
I know I'm way too late, but it's basically a Japanese version of ADoM 2.

>> No.13079611

>>13079585
Not quite. I'd more say it is closer to ToME meets Rune Factory on crack.

>> No.13079674

>>13079611
It borrows a lot from ADoM, honestly.

>> No.13079952

>>13079083
Ive been using her for 15 levels and I gotta say, I'm impressed. she uses a lot of cool spells too, but my main pet peeve is that fireball shit she sometimes uses- it can burn items that are on the ground. Lost a deed of inheritance like that

>> No.13079956

>>13079448
you wont miss out on anything

you'll have a better/more fun exp too

>> No.13079959

>>13079273
just save up medals and get a rod of domination from the workshop

that's how I got my platina bell pet when I was level 6

>> No.13079990

>>13069286
>pastebin
So is this the most updated english version for elona+?

I am going to try to make SO MANY custom NPCs...

>> No.13080011

>>13079273
The kaneda bike is like 230 speed and it's pretty easy to get a couple blue capsule drags

>> No.13080019

>>13079990
yeah, everything that worked for 1.41 works in 1.42

http://pastebin.com/tU9qkAqt is probably the most recent and comprehensive

>> No.13080143

>>13080019
actually it'd be the /jp/ pasta.

http://pastebin.com/T2RCwdh8

This thread an the last one have been a clusterfuck and people seem to have forgotten that ctrl+f is a thing.

>> No.13080328

>>13080143
It's the kids these days mang... The nanny state and limp-wristed parents have ruined them

>> No.13080712

I just have that site bookmarked once someone showed it to me.

>> No.13080740 [DELETED] 

>>13080712
Who are you quoting?

>> No.13080846

>>13066292
>edition
Please, stop.

>> No.13080901

Leold won't let me trade AP for speed anymore, and I have no clue why. I'm in Lost Irva, so the 500 speed cap doesn't apply. I've got more AP than my current speed.

>> No.13080971

>>13080740
Can't even funpost anymore, 4chan really is shit now.

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I hate when this happen.

>> No.13081165

>>13080971
Nigga 4chan has always been shit.
Have to follow autism babby's unwritten rules and be a sheep or everyone tells you to kill yourself :^)

>> No.13081167

>>13081154
First, tell your pets to wait at town to free up space. Then dig out all the spaces next to the stairs up so there's eight possible ways for the NPC to get off the stairs instead of three.

But yeah, that is annoying as all hell.

>> No.13081174

>>13081154
>not carrying at least one rod of teleportation with you at all times
You deserve it for being so bad
>>13081167
Or just zap a fucking rod of teleportation which takes a lot less time and is easier than all of that

>> No.13081207

>>13081174
Or b 1 1 which is three keystrokes and doesn't waste a charge.

>> No.13081224

>>13081207
>wasting a charge
>not having several rods at all times
>not having draw/fill charge
I also have my rods hotkeyed so it's 2 keystrokes! But that's beside the point.

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>>13080011
yeah, to elaborate on this, load up on cargo after you're around level 10 or so with several pets and kill a bunch of pirate bosses

their cronies drop blue capsule drags ocassionally.


now for my question, what's needed to make coconut crab?

>> No.13081293

>>13081259
You can't make it, just gotta get lucky and find it.

>> No.13081515
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>give young lady pet aphrodisiac
>she drops egg of young lady
>pet eats it

I guess if you give too many aphrodisiacs to a horny teenager they ovulate. who knew!

>> No.13081926

Does this work with Windows 8?

>> No.13081946

>>13081926
Try it. It should work fine

>> No.13082014

>>13081926
yes. works fine.

>> No.13082054

So eloners, what's your favorite class feat?

I'm torn between Warriors and Claymores myself.

>> No.13082079

>>13081515
What do you think pets use to cook you breakfast every morning?

>> No.13082088

My Caster PC is going to get an AP feat soon. Should I go with Courage or Barrier first?

If Courage, does the damage bonus against high-level enemies increase magic damage as well, and by how much?

>> No.13082094

>>13082054
Warmage is the only one you can't make insignificant with a single decent piece of equipment.

>> No.13082104

>>13082088
Courage no longer gives bonus damage against higher level enemies. It now gives a damage increase when your health is low.

>> No.13082163

>>13082054
Tourist because I fucking hate gold. Jokes aside I like Warmage but I don't ever seem to pick that as my starting class. I usually just pick up the Warmage class and it's class feat later in the game through a business card.

>> No.13082167

>>13082104
So would barrier be a better option, then?

>> No.13082324

>>13082167
Depends, how low does your HP tend to drop in a fight? How low does your MP tend to drop?

>> No.13082461

Is there any reason for randomly vomiting when drinking potions? Not even cursed potions, has happened with regular and blessed as well.

>> No.13082487

>>13082461
this guy, seems that it happens when satisfied, although at a lowish rate, and goes up the fuller you are, it's pretty high when bloated.

>> No.13082502

>>13082487
Everyone knows that, except you, apparently.

>> No.13082554

>>13082461
Potions add satiation.

>> No.13082559

My Elona files are all in my old harddrive but I don't feel like opening the computer up to put it in. Please feel bad for me.

>> No.13082599

>>13082559
I'm so sorry you're a lazy faggot and blogging about it.

>> No.13082624

>>13082502
simply epic :^)

>> No.13082639

>>13082599
Thank you.

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I am so fucking confused what to do

I do jobs but I die or I run out of time (like I did a quest about farming and I ran out of time or some shit)

This shit is more confusing than Dwarf Fortress

>> No.13082676

>>13082649
Unless you have decent Farming skill, you're going to fail those every time. Stick to delivery and escort quests in the beginning(not Before it's too late! quests because they are stricter on time limits).

>> No.13082684

>>13082676
>>13082649
The best way to get good at gardening is to do harvest time quests, it only takes a couple before you can complete them in short order (assuming you have the gardening skill).

>> No.13082690

>>13082676
Actually with just a fair bit of strength you can clear those reliably.
Also escort quests can be a lot harsher than before it's too late, but it depends on where they ask you to go and how many days you have left.

>> No.13082703

>>13082690
Really? Always found escorts to have ample time as long as you take the quickest route. Before it's too late has a tendency to throw a tough fight in there somewhere.

>> No.13082717

>>13082703
it's generally doable unless it's (2d) for noyel honestly, but sometimes they do have nigh impossible timers. Other than that, when it's doable it's generally the best money you can grab early on since they're like red $ difficulty and pay well

>> No.13082726

>>13082703
I think you're confusing escort quests with before it's too late, escorts throw tough fights at you, before it's too late is just wilderness shit jumping at you

>> No.13082737

>>13082726
>>13082717
You guys are completely right, i'm stupid.

>> No.13082738 [DELETED] 

>>13082703
>>13082726
Jesus christ, escort and before it's too late are just normal random wilderness encounters. Beauty and the beast gives you a difficult encounter.

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>>13082676
Okay I started a quest where I have to retrieve a fortune cookie from a guard but when I try to trade with the guard it says I have nothing that matches one.

>> No.13082776

>>13082743
Means nothing you have is worth trading for a fortune cookie. Go buy a stack of bottles of booze from the innkeeper and try again.

>> No.13082780

>>13082743
Rob him

>> No.13082781

>>13082776
ah ok thanks

>> No.13082807

>>13082743
For this reason you should hang on to all your scrolls of oracle, they're worthless for you but apparently extremely valuable to NPCs.

>> No.13082868

>>13082324
I usually keep my HP above 1/2, because I'm not a huge fan of contingency's "chance" to heal when I'm fighting god enemies, and I keep my mana above 2/3 with scrolls/rods of mana.

>> No.13082881

>>13082649
>I did a quest about farming and I ran out of time or some shit
When you pick up the quest, the time limit is clearly stated. During the quest, you get a reminder of time remaining every 10 minutes in your log. Look at your log if you miss th updates. Harvesting takes many turns, based on your speed, farming skill and the size of the target, though larger targets have better weight/time ratio.

Farming quests in Yowyn are the easiest and safest way to earn pp as a new character. Just buy the farming skill.

>This shit is more confusing than Dwarf Fortress
Elona's nowhere near DF. It's just a weeaboo themed ADoM.

>> No.13082934

>>13082868
Then barrier will be helpful to you, and courage (and obstinate) won't do very much at all. So go barrier, and pick up beguile as your second when you have the AP.

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Complete nab here. This looks interesting and I love customization stuff so I want to play.

I went to the source for the DL, the first one says elona plus, not sure what the hell the second file is though.
Do I only need the first file?
and what the hell is the second one for?

>> No.13082961

>>13082942
Start by disabling your noscript on dropbox.com and dropboxstatic.com so dropbox actually works and you see the filenames.

>> No.13083037

>>13082942
Are you sure you want to put a scary executable from an unknown source on your computer?

>> No.13083049

>>13083037
yea cuz im not a bitch wwwww

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>>13082961
Well, apparently I was trying to read it in google translate and that caused that, just copying the file name itself revealed that the file is just a "read me first", okay then...
Now to figure out how to not get untranslatable moonrunes from the readme itself.

>> No.13083085

>>13083067
Looks like you're missing fonts or something. There's nothing important in that file.

>> No.13083171

>>13075404
I checked numlock and it's off when I launch the game. Pressing it doesn't turn it on either until I close the game. What does that mean exactly?

>> No.13083235

>>13083085
>missing fonts
No you dumbass, that's mojibake.

>> No.13083333

>>13083235
Are you frustrated?

>> No.13083428

>>13083235
i watched mojibakemonogatari but the lack of an established standard for the story direction made the whole thing seem like a confusing, jumbled mess

>> No.13083754

Is the 1.5 graphic pack/additions to the PC customization for elona still compatible with Elona+?

Talking of 1.42

Seems like I'm missing quite a bit of customization than I remember.

>> No.13083937

>>13083754
Nope, it's different sizes. In fact, you can find a few of that stuff in the "Old" folder.

>> No.13084126

Kind of seeing the problem with the customization now, even the old bobblehead sprites can't measure up to the height of some of the custom made.

You wind up with an odd looking match of different styled and heighted sprites so it looks really off. Looks like I won't be using full custom sheets for allies.

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>>13084126
Does it really matter? Being animated while nothing else is already is an odd-looking match to begin with. Although personally I don't care for the base sprites, I usually just grab npc sprites that I like and edit them and use them as my PC, something like this. I just think they look a lot better in general. Shame about the size limit though.

>> No.13084169

>>13069605
Found a shit ton of touhou elona stuff, but I warn you, none of it works with either of the sets of default elona sprites.
Reimu and most of the others will tower over everything else, designed for the maximum space of 48x48.

If that doesn't bug the hell out of you, here you go.

http://deli.cubic2.net/member/taoc/kadoya/tkoolxp.htm

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=99003

>> No.13084183

>>13079448
One last thing regarding this:
Do allies benefit from overdose mode?
It'd suck to drastically level past pets without any effort.

>> No.13084201

>>13084183
anon if you spent a tenth of the time that you spent checking and posting in this thread making a test character all of your questions would've been solved by now! aka I have no fucking clue.

>> No.13084253

>>13084169
I'll post some edits of the latter links singular NPC sprites in a bit, working on it. Characters will still look more detailed than elonas but the "drastically taller than elona sprites" thing should be sorted out.

>> No.13084463

do houe servants (eg. shop guy) transfer between houses with same level? i want leveled shopt at my home but i don't want to grind for the castle

>> No.13084909

>>13084463
Shopkeepers transfer over exactly as they were before, so you can invest in them while they're in your cave and they won't lose any levels when you put down your new house.

>> No.13085485

Are there any additions to the main quest in 1.42?

>> No.13085584

Does gwen respawn? I want to farm her for the karma+20 item, but I dont want to miss the chance to astral pen her, since I dont have one yet

>> No.13085588

>>13085584
She and all named NPCs respawn a while after being killed.

>> No.13085591

>>13085588
awesome. thanks.

>> No.13085687

>>13085485
After talking to Erystia, there should be a new npc in the Docks who'll take you to a new map.

>> No.13085717

>>13085687
Ah I found him, thanks.

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>>13085717
The boss wasn't as difficult as inqtual but it looks like it has cDeathMaster so you have to kill it fast. I wasn't really paying much attention so I'm not completely sure about it, but the death word broke after I killed it just like candle wisps.

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13086780

I'm having a problem, I am going after the lucky dagger, but the nine god sign says im capped at 3220/3200, and Ethekal says she's "indifferent" to my gifts that I give her, fish and all that. I tried to pray but no dice. I already got the secret of ethekal and the black cat.

what gives?

>> No.13086853

>>13086780
Ya'll need a higher faith

>> No.13086858

>>13086780
You need more faith, that's what controls the denominator. Get the unknown shell, it adds a bunch.

>> No.13086861

>>13086858
>>13086853
ah dang, completely forgot about that

>> No.13086918

You know those random adventurers one can hire wandering around the world map doing things?
What is the process to creating one of those through custom NPC? Am I missing a certain tag or something?

>> No.13087064

How do I kill zeome?

My bell pet can't machine gun him down. That was my trump card.

>> No.13087087

>>13087064
Higher level bell pet, better machine gun, more bells, git gudder.

>> No.13088625

Took a few level 1 pets to the doujou and paid the lady to train them, went around and did like 5 dungeons and came back they are all still level one.

i thought it was supposed to level them up?

>> No.13088958

>>13088625
What does trains very slowly mean anon?

>> No.13088969

>>13081259
Go to Noyel during the Juure festival in December.

Take like 400 alcohol if you have a full set of maintains stat and the secret treasure of the wicked. Then you can prostitute a good 8 million+ gold in one month.

Buy and invest from the food vendor festival guy that sells food in the top left.I got 2 coconut crabs in 5 days from him

>> No.13089138

>>13066292
How viable is magic device in late North tyris/South tyris? Without a rod of crystal ball or magic storm it seems like it'd peter out and die.

>> No.13089424

>>13089138
>Not just having the spells
>Not being an undefeatable warmage of death and destruction
topjej

>> No.13089489

>>13089138
Kind of feels like a casting alternative for heavy armor users trading convenience and stocking (from mage guild) for being a better success rate. Also not sure about this but it feels like the power from rods, potions, and scrolls stems this one skill rather than spell levels and stats. Someone feel free to correct me on this.

>> No.13089675

>>13089489
potions are affected by alchemy

>> No.13089719

>>13088625
That seems like a big waste of time and money for an item that doesn't really do anything.

>> No.13090030

Is there any way to stop enemies from displacing you? I keep having pets killed because an enemy swaps places with me and rushes the low level pet I'm trying to let gather XP.

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>>13090030
You should just tag that low level pet onto yourself or another higher level pet.

>> No.13090726

>>13090238
>You should just tag that low level pet onto yourself
how, and what does that do?

>> No.13090807

>>13090238
Why is Valkyria Chronicles so stupid? If I didn't know better I'd think it was ironic mockery of ww2

>> No.13090819

>>13090807
>watching the cutscenes
>not just killing imperial scum

>> No.13090871

>>13090807
>having such shit taste

>> No.13092661

Is there any actual reason to use the farm for farming instead of your home? I don't care about compost tiles, but do field tiles give any hidden bonuses to crops?

>> No.13092823

>>13092661
In Elona+, field tiles are beneficial for growing crops. In vanilla Elona if I recall correctly there was something about them that makes them worse for farming instead of being helpful, as was intended.

>> No.13092870

>>13092823
>In Elona+, field tiles are beneficial for growing crops
Beneficial how? Do they just raise your effective gardening skill level or something else?

>> No.13092878

>>13092870
They have a better survival rate relative to your gardening level.

capctha: elana

>> No.13092967

>>13092870
For one, new plants grow way more often when you harvest on field tiles.
Not sure if they affect food bonuses.

I usually plant herbs on field tiles and everything else on the space left over and then the surplus around the field.

>> No.13093436

>>13088969
I'd feel pretty bad whoring out my character like that.

>> No.13093816

>>13090726
interact with the pet
bring up tag organization menu, tag them onto you

now its like they are piggybacked on you and wont get steamrolled so easily

>> No.13093818

>>13092823
I made a farm on a forest, and then made another farm on a field

they look exactly the same

wtf.

>> No.13093849

>>13088969
thats some pretty good advice. Been needing to get treasure of the wicked for a while now, but I'm too sissy to do the nuke quest just yet

>> No.13094066

>>13093818
Stop being lazy, go grab your house board and redesign them to look the way you want.

>> No.13094916

>>13093436
I had more than 400 hours of extreme poverty in Elona+. I can never go back... ;_;7

>> No.13094924

>>13093849
It's not bad. Hoard up on bread+rations +coffeee(optional). BUY/FIND/EXCHANGE MEDALS FOR A TAX BOX SO YOU CAN PAY YOUR SHIT W/O INCOG/DISGUISE

Put it in a storage house by vernis and go alone into the puppy cave. Gather a pack of mobs and mash wait. You get like 15 karma every couple days depending on RNG and train your defenses

>> No.13095543

>>13094066
Not that guy but it is kinda sad, what bothers me the most is the lack of rain/snow/day/night in a house, I find the sound of rain to be super comfy

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13097552

>Get me a rod of cure minor wounds
>Do so
>Get rod of cure minor wounds in rewards.
>MFW.

>> No.13098475

>>13097552
Who are you quoting?

>> No.13100199

>>13098475
epic

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>>13068011
>I mean, I know I screw around a lot doing pointless things, but geez.
I've only recently become conscious of my play time in video games. I just make sure to exit the game when I'm not playing.

>>13093818
"field tiles" is referring to the tilled field tiles on the farm property, not empty tiles on the world map

>>13095543
>I find the sound of rain to be super comfy
the campfire sounds a lot like rain hitting a window

>>13089138
maybe if Sanctio was less shit and Disaster was scaled and actually worked on bosses

>> No.13103022

>>13102714
Yeah, I have a habit of leaving it open for... several hours while I do other things. I think I'm at a little below 1000 hours on the current character because of it.

>> No.13103091

>>13097552
>Guy wants a wand of magic missile
>Give him an ID'd with 23 charges
>Get the exact one back
Glorious

Same for when you give them an empty tele or whatever and you get a charged one back

>> No.13103097

>>13102714
How do I into the crafting profs? I want to tailor but I barely get any leather/vein

>> No.13103156

>>13103097
You probably don't dungeon dive enough. Tailoring ingredients are generally rather plentiful, unlike Alchemy. I never seem to have enough water and weeds to make the potions I want.

If you have the Jeweler skill to craft 100+ Gain Material scrolls, be sure to bless the entire stack for even more materials.

If you want tailoring for the picnic baskets, it's unnecessary. Lune the maid gives you a large basket on the 10th and 20th of every month, which is reusable.

It gets bad in high level dungeons though. I'm failing almost all of my search attempts, even with 240 Detection, so I'm slowly draining my material stocks. I might even have to go back to the puppy cave...

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>>13103156
>It is in south tyris

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It was a tough fight but I killed Utima through teleport and magic dart cheese. Dropped a nice gun. If I'm able to kill Utima I should be able to kill Zeome right?

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>>13103197
time to grind

>>13103221
I believe Zeome has a retarded AI, so you should have no problem

>> No.13103438

>>13103221
Fighting Zeome isn't a matter of survivability, but instead DPS.

If you can't outdamage his heal, you can't kill him. Same thing for the South Tyris boss.

Time stop ammo helps greatly for this purpose.

>> No.13103448

>>13103438
>If you can't outdamage his heal, you can't kill him
not exactly true since he eventually runs out of MP

>> No.13103476

>>13103430
skill and +skill boosts?

>>13103438
doesn't the chaos ball shit on you if it hits?

>> No.13103494

>>13103476
Yeah, but as >>13103430 said, retarded AI.

Basically, he only ever attacks you if you or a pet are next to him. So basically if you bring some teleport rods or have enough speed to just kite him. He'll never ever attack.

>> No.13103499

>>13103476
>skill and +skill boosts?
115+12

not him but there is a threshold where neither boss poses any threat to your life, but you are expected to exceed a certain DPS or face an indestructible regenerating brick wall

I could survive Meshera with my char almost 50 hours before I could actually kill her.

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>>13103499
I ended up having to set up some silly amount of burst damage (at the time) and time stop to drop Meshera. Surviving 10 rounds of doing nothing was less of a concern than not being able to kill her, yeah.

>> No.13103666

What monster NPC knows gardening? Farmer NPCs aren't respawning.

>> No.13103869

Im trying to get the altar from the basement of the crypt of the damned into my house.

I cant teleport with it and I cant fit it into my 4th dimensional pocket

is there any other way other than just grinding strength and weightlifting all to fuck?

it weighs 500.0s

>> No.13103909 [DELETED] 

>>13103869
Use flying scrolls. You need seven blessed ones to bring it under 100s, ten to bring it under 50s.

They began appearing in magic shops at around Rank 400 for me. Even now, when I have seven magic shops at Rank 1000 and check them daily, they're still quite rare.

Enjoy.

>> No.13104036 [DELETED] 

>>13103909
cool thanks

>> No.13104060

>>13103869
Drop all your stuff but some junk in your house.
Pick up altar.
Die.

>> No.13104389

>>13103609
Isn't there a mp drain fixedart?

>> No.13104591

>>13104389
Blood Moon, yeah.

>> No.13104875

>>13103609
How do you even get that much plat?

>>13103666
Did you wait at least 7 full days?

>> No.13104898

>>13104875
It's not remotely hard to get large amounts once you can trivially clear dungeons for 5 plat per and panic/challenge quests for 5+ plat per. I've gotten into the low four hundreds once when I decided to clear all the dungeons in NT in a single sustained go and hit two map resets during that run.

>> No.13105781

Bump for how is tourist life? I heard you can dump plat -> +cargo now so I revved up a goblin tourist to fish, escort, and be a traveling merchant.

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>>13105781
>Bump

>> No.13106297

How exactly do you break the game as a farmer?

>> No.13106516

>>13106297
Farm. Farm harder. Farm some more.
Git +garden set
Git +cooking set and a high value barbecue set
Git +negotiation/charisma set
Put on high Cha/Negotiation pet
Plant in rain
Sell gorillion gold+10 plantx180 per 3 days at shop

>> No.13106532

Probably wind up asking this twice with this being unbumpable, but what's the spawn code for secret treasure of saint? I'd rather not butcher a little girl a few thousand times for an ironic drop.

>> No.13106533

>>13104875
I'm almost in my 7th year.

Neutral NPCs, with few exceptions, don't seem to respawn.

>> No.13106553

>>13103869
Blessed Scroll of Flying
You'll need it, maybe two

>> No.13106564

>>13106532
>Only way to obtain an item that lets you be more of a hero is to kill/let die a little girl.
Is that irony?

>> No.13106635

Big Sea Hare is a big pink block for me, and I'm using the rlg character.bmp

is there a way I can fix this myself?

>> No.13106637

>>13106148
You could dump plat into training +weightliftings potential, but you can also straight boost it by increments of 10 with small medals (after you've gotten everything else noteworthy from the workshop of course- like shield of tonfa)

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>>13106532
Currently reloading constantly in an attempt to get it to drop...
SUFFERING.

>> No.13106674

>>13106532
it's gonna take a few thousand kills, anon. RIP Gwen, you monster.

>> No.13106685

>>13106661
It's probably easier on your sanity to just kill her whenever you happen to pass through Yowyn

it's not like it's an essential item or anything either

>> No.13106827

>>13106635
Compare your character.bmp with the original character.bmp from the latest game version. Edit your picture in paint and paste the missing sprites into the empty squares.

>> No.13106848

>>13106661
Well, I got it.
"You are a good person"
Is there some sort of joke I'm not getting where the girl winds up as some sort of manifestation of evil or darkness or something stupid like that in order for her to drop something like this?

>> No.13107176

>>13106637
Weightlifting does jack and shit for cargo capacity. All that matters for cargo is cart size.

Also, cart upgrades take either 1 small medal per upgrade per upgrade, or ten platinum coins per upgrade per upgrade. At no time did it take 10 medals per upgrade per upgrade.

>> No.13107352

What combination of claws/tonfas/shields should I wield as a mutant pursing martial arts?

>> No.13107362

>>13106637
Why did you reply to me? I'm not that retard, I don't need to be told shit.

>> No.13107384

>>13107176
Nobody ever said it takes 10 medals.

>> No.13107441

>>13107362
epic

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13107550

grown-up norne is such a cunt

>> No.13107851

>>13106848
Have you considered that it's originally her possession and that she's meant with the "you're a good person"?

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HOORAY

>> No.13108176

>>13103609
how do you punch so hard?

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Alright jp,

im at level 28, I have like 6 pets hanging out in the doujou while I do dungeons with my bell pet. I'm having trouble coming up with money to invest with

I have been spamming cargo pirates and puppy dungeon for scrolls of oracle/heirship

Is there an easier way to make dosh at this point? As far as main quest goes, I just found the three gems for lomias

>> No.13108330

>>13108176
100+ MA skill, lots of strength, a couple of Tonfas that increase MA too.

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>>13106827
okay I did that. Posting the updated character.bmp for anyone who is interested. (open in paint save as bmp)

>> No.13108451

>>13108180
You're at the range where spawned dungeons don't have unrealistic expectations of you, so (actual) dungeon diving is a good way to make money that should be significant for your fame/level.

Picking up farming is a good idea, Harvest quests are boring as sin but selling harvests gets you considerable coin mid-game, ignoring the herbs and possible rods of wishing.

If you're investing to get potions of potential to get out of Hopeless prison, the most recent update has introduced picnic baskets that almost make the damn things obsolete. I haven't played early/mid game with picnics, but in lategame I find that I'm buying potential potions out of sheer habit and haven't used them for months (currently have 200+ of them in my 4d pocket.) I also just fired all of my Rank 1000 magic shopkeepers from my house.

Crafting is always lategame-ish for me, and I've never maximized it early. Selling the stuff you make in a shop gives serious profits (though you will need to trek dungeons to get supplies to craft with).

I have no experience with prostitution

>> No.13108462

>>13108451
Not him, I'm sitting at 50k fame around level 25 and every time I meet a bandit group I have to pay up or teleport for the map edge while they one-shot my pets including my platina bell. Do I have too much fame for my level? How do I fix this without just gaining more fame and excaberating the problem?

>> No.13108495

>>13108462
>Do I have too much fame for my level?
I couldn't say. Rogues are pretty strong, but it could also easily be that you're too weak.

I paid/fled my way through Rogues until much later than I actually had to (I was surprised when I found out that I could wipe the floor with them and had wasted all that cash), so I don't really know how strong they're "supposed" to be, sorry...

>How do I fix this without just gaining more fame and excaberating the problem?
Purposely fail Harvest and Party Time quests by leaving. But you have to be the judge whether or not the effort is worth it.

The fight against fame is an ultimately futile one. I can't do 80% of the dungeons on my map, and that proportion is increasing. But it's not worth my time to worry about it as long as I can still level up and make money elsewhere.

>> No.13108501

>>13108462
Deliberately fail some quests.
Good ones for fame reduction are the various fetch quests, as you can just accept them and forget about it.
Also safe are hunting/party time/harvest quests as you can just wait them out or leave the map for a safe fame reduction.

If you don't mind losing rank, losing arena battles works too.

>> No.13108510

>>13108451
thats good advice, thanks

>> No.13108771

>>13108495
I believe dungeons is based on the highest dungeon level you've done.

>> No.13108783

do we have a savefile size fix yet?

>> No.13108784

>>13108771
It's based on highest level dungeon that you've killed the boss in, how far you are in the storyline, and what continent you're on.

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