/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Serious question. Why a girl would want to become an idol?

- The agency take all the money
- Idols can't have boyfriends. The Japanese mainstream was terrified for the Minegishi's scandal
- Near zero chances to make it on the entertainment business after the graduation
- Terrible work conditions
- Being stalked by wotas 24/7. Not including crap like the wota with the chainsaw on an AKB48 handshake
- Every girl over 13 know that idols must suck yakuza cocks

At least the Disney channel "stars" get a lot of money. In fact, their parents often encourage their kids to participate on auditions for making money, despite the terrible effect over their kids's emotional stability. Meanwhile, idols don't get shit besides appearing on some stupid variety show

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>>13054036

Attention. Things that aren't material objects matter I guess.

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>>13054036
>- The agency take all the money
Wrong, the agency take most of the money, but still leave the idol far more wealthy than the average job (and with fame too boot, which a lot of people desire)
>- Idols can't have boyfriends. The Japanese mainstream was terrified for the Minegishi's scandal
Japanese have trouble dating anyway.
>- Near zero chances to make it on the entertainment business after the graduation
Not zero, and girls often think optimistically. And besides, chances for money, fame and to sing now aren't things to turn down anyway, even if only briefly.
>- Terrible work conditions
Japan.
>- Being stalked by wotas 24/7. Not including crap like the wota with the chainsaw on an AKB48 handshake
Some girls like the attention.
>- Every girl over 13 know that idols must suck yakuza cocks
Very little evidence this actually happens.

[Anonymous No.]

attention

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054041
>>13054049
Then those girls must be really desperate for attention. The idol industry must be fueled by daddy issues

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>>13054048
Your oshimen isn't pure. She sucks yakuza cocks for work and ikemen cocks for fun. She'll never suck your cock

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>>13054080
I'm fairly indifferent to 3D idols anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Who the fuck cares?
Maybe they wanted to help family but they don't want to go to the JAV route.

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>>13054080
I'm ikemen so maybe she'll suck my cock

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>>13054066
Just like OP desperate for attention from idols fans by making this thread, kek.

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>>13054036
>wota with the chainsaw on an AKB48 handshake
When was this?
Explain further. I thought semen handshakes and death threats were as far as they went.

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>>13054103
He's not even a wota some jobless bastard that just wanted to hurt somebody.

[Anonymous No.]

>How about having a life where you're actually paid to act cute allday while millions of japanese and gaijins men will surely want to go into your pants?
If I was a girl I would probably take the opportunity.
It's like girls doing porn for free money and free pleasure. Some like, some don't.

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>>13054103
Some autist lost it and hit two girls with a concealed saw, broke one of their hands because it was a fucking saw and not something sharp. Idiocy on both sides really.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/26/japanese-girl-band-members-attacked-saw-fan-event

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>>13054036
It was a small blunt hand saw, not even close to a fucking chainsaw you retard.

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>>13054130
If the guys were normal, the attention would be appealing. Unfortunately, they look like circus freaks.

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>>13054137
>Idiocy on both sides really.
Why? I mean, the fault seem to be entirely on the autist

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>>13054149
>small blunt hand saw
nice try faggot why don't you do fact checking first before you write.

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>>13054160
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

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>>13054167
They have security at handshake events, for the girls who were attacked one was old as fuck and the other was 20 I think, both failed to stop him. Since then they had to step up security, but he shouldn't have been able to attack them.

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>>13054173
This is the saw, not exactly a chainsaw or anything close to lethal.

I know you wanted attention by making this thread instead of just asking it in one of the many idols threads on this forum, but before you make your next thread jerk off first and then decide if its a good idea. It'll let you get rid of some of that teenage angst.

[Anonymous No.]

Part about money isn't true. Reason why many people want to become idols is to get money without real work.

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>>13054219
I'm not even the idiot OP dude, 50cm saw isn't what I would call small and that shit is obviously serrated and not blunt, its sharp enough to cause laceration.

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>>13054233
Not the same faggot but while calling it 'small and blunt' was definitely a big underestimation of what's pictured there it's still not a chainsaw. That being said, I'm surprised the dude didn't manage to slice the poor girl's hand clean open with that huge of a blade.

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>>13054251
Good thing I never claim that it was a chainsaw.
Aside from the hands, one of them suffered a head laceration too.
Anyone must be stupid (or edgy) to think that it couldn't have injured somebody.

[Anonymous No.]

sashihara rino makes $680,000 a year for just being just being sasshi (no other real skills) and watanabe mayu makes $490,000 for just being cute so making the bucks seems like a good reason.

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>>13054301
I know you didn't but OP did so was just trying to give the guy at the top of the reply chain the benefit of the doubt, either way their both wrong, it's not small and blunt and it's not a chainsaw either. Just read the article that was linked too. Amazed that anyone didn't notice him carrying it in/allowed him to swing it enough times to hurt them that badly/the faggot still didn't actually manage to actually injure them even more seriously with a 20 inch blade.

>>13054327
...yea, even if the production company takes a lot, that's still a salary that most professional jobs that are gonna take much more effort/time&experience to get into can't compare to...

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>>13054036
Disney Channel stars get paid shit and their parents get all the money. It's actually not as good as you'd think. The only way they can actually make their own brand money is by shilling out shit like songs and figures.

Disney has it just as rough as idols, but they've got less of them.

[Taking the goddamn bait No.]

>>13054036
>Serious question.
>Shitkaku Complex format in the filename
>Bunch of shit read through the grapevine
>Not including crap like the wota with the chainsaw on an AKB48 handshake
>chainsaw
Something tells me that OP isn't here to ask any serious question

By the way,
>Implying the guy was a fan
Try get a clue next time, please:

http://uliuliulli.tumblr.com/post/87396095052/an-actual-analysis-of-this-akb-saw-attack

http://web.archive.org/web/20141104215615/http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20141104/k10015931581000.html
"The defendant said that after losing his job and becoming unemployed he saw AKB on television and was disgruntled at the feeling that idols get high-paying salaries."
"He believed that by attacking an idol with a bladed weapon this dissatisfaction would go away."

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>>13054363
they had a pretty shit security before and the dude basically carry the weapon inside his jacket and get away with it.

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>>13054160
Epic /a/ maymay, vermin. Do you get all your hints from shit their repost there?

>If the guys were normal
Looks like a bunch of normalfucks to me, bruh
https://twitter.com/syamekai48
http://syamekai48.blog.jp/

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>>13054048
>Wrong, the agency take most of the money, but still leave the idol far more wealthy than the average job (and with fame too boot, which a lot of people desire)
Umm what? No, they get peanuts for their work unless they are in a famous group and they happen to be one of the top members like In AKB48. You are pretty disillusioned if you think otherwise. Go ahead, go to Japan and ask a few girls in idol groups how much they make.
Let's take BiS for example, they had a wonderful profit margin for a smaller group, but the members got shit out of it, Pour Loui even had to work at a bakery part time to be able to susfain herself, and she has her own band on top of that.

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>>13054400
>Go ahead, go to Japan and ask a few girls in idol groups how much they make.
Yeah, I'm gonna bring up the topic at the next akushukai, when it's my turn to meet my oshi I'll ask her and she'll answer me candidly and even even give me a copy of her paycheck for proof, before the hagashi escorts me out of the booth.
Nah, you're the deluded one in this if you think salaries are made public and the numbers you see circulating aren't just tabloid speculations.

>BiS
Take a real group for example, not shitty wannabes,

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>>13054436
>being this retarded

[Anonymous No.]

You get fame and attention. Along with money.
It's a better life than most lead, and complete strangers will actually care about you.

Must be a pretty good feel.

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>>13054471
>shitposting this hard
>Who are you quoting?
>Who am I quoting?
>What is love?

>>13054400
It's a dice roll. You either end up upper-middle class for doing basically no real work, or as you said, you end up not being popular enough so you don't make that much, but assuming you could still continue with school normally while doing it, if you have the looks/connections to take that dice roll, why not do it? And before you bring up another girl that didn't continue with school while doing it that's not the industry's fault it's her own.

[Anonymous No.]

>The Japanese mainstream was terrified for the Minegishi's scandal
lel no. you had to be actually be there and see things unfold because nobody was shocked or trembling in tears or anything, "mainstream" had more serious things to deal with than a clear stunt.
Or perhaps you're confusing Japanese mainstream to a fraction of Murrican mainstream. Then again right now this same fraction is spazzing because they think Abe is going to introduce Apartheid on immigrants, when in fact one of his ex-advisors only posted on a column on a newspaper saying it'd be better if immigrants lived in separated living quarters (as in Chinatown or Little Italy). That gives you an idea of the what shit they feed you, seriously.

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>>13054471
Who are you quoting, crossie?

[Anonymous No.]

>The Japanese mainstream was terrified for the Minegishi's scandal
lel no. you had to be actually be there and see things unfold because nobody was shocked or trembling in tears or anything, "mainstream" had more serious things to deal with than a clear stunt.
Or perhaps you're confusing Japanese mainstream to a fraction of Murrican mainstream. Then again right now this same fraction is spazzing because they think Abe is going to introduce Apartheid on immigrants, when in reality one of his old ex-advisors only wrote on a column on Sankei that it'd be better for immigrants if they lived in separated living quarters (as in Chinatown or Little Italy).
That gives you an idea of the what shit they feed you as "international news", seriously.

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>>13054519
It has a link to the post, dumbass

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>>13054528
>dumbass
And yet you still haven't indicated who you were quoting with
>being this retarded
I can't seem to find those three words in that order anywhere in the linked post, strange isn't it, newfriend

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>>13054528
てめえ誰を引用するよ？

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>>13054524
Japan doesn't believe in any publicity is good publicity. Actually, they're very scare of getting any kind of negative attention because muh honor. The sole fact of getting headlines outside the idol niche was worrying for the agency. Also, nobody would side with fat ugly nerds against a cute girl except for other fat ugly nerds, wotas are despised by the Japanese society anyway.

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>>13054535
>started browsing jp 3 years ago
>being this much of a newfag
mfw

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>>13055024
>outside the idol niche

Ahaha what?
Idol isn't like your anime shit which has to be relegated to maniac-pandering magazines nobody buys or looks at, crossie scum, don't bunch me together with you fucking Morloks.

Ever since this アイドル戦国時代 started they've been getting headlines and coverages on entame newspapers on a daily basis, AKB has a fucking newspapers weekly supplement being sold together with Nikkan Sports, Tokyo Sports is in direct collaboration with Alice Project. Newspapers like Asahi have their own idol column since years. Idol coverage in Japan is mainstream on par with reportages about TV talents, actors, sportsmen and pro-wrestlers. Open a fucking news site sometimes and you'll notice.

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>>13055037
Who are you quoting.

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>>13055024
>outside the idol niche

Ahaha what?
Idol isn't like your anime shit which has to be relegated to maniac-pandering magazines nobody buys or looks at, crossie scum, don't bunch me together with you fucking Morlocks.

Ever since this アイドル戦国時代 started they've been getting headlines and coverages on entame newspapers on a daily basis, AKB has a fucking newspapers weekly supplement being sold together with Nikkan Sports, Sponichi had a daily special for the entire length of AKB's general elections, Tokyo Sports is in direct collaboration with Alice Project. while newspapers like Asahi have their own daily idol column since years.
In case you don't get it already, idol coverage in Japan is mainstream on par with reportages about TV talents, actors, sportsmen and pro-wrestlers. Open a fucking news site sometimes and you'll notice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054400
What are endorsements that are not included in the group?
That's what makes top idols rich really

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>>13055108
Normalfags don't buy multiple copies of the same single for supporting their oshimen. Wotas aren't AKB only audience but they're the most important. It's hard to sell a family friendly image when an idol shave her head and cry in front of the camera

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>>13055024
>are despised by the Japanese society anyway

Nope, it's aniotas who always been looked down on, don't mix the two together.
I know that it's hard to imagine for you people who visit a bunch of weeb sites where "Japan" equals "anime paradise", but unlike other typical otaku-ish interests (gaming, mecha, idols, semi-professional wrestling), anime is actually one of the few that was never graced with mainstream recognition and always got looked askance.
It's easy to feels this difference in treatment if you visit Japanese websites, but mass-media picks up and respectfully discusses all the other otaku topics I said before on a daily basis, whereas anime is generally ignored and marginalized to only a few "specialized" corners of the interwebs.
To further expand, it's normal to see public figures (often unsuspicious people like politicans and sportsmen) make open statements like "I'm a mononofu", "I love AKB", "Kenta Kobayashi is my hero", but no one seems willing to put their name on the line and give a shout out to anime.

Pop quiz:
What large otaku gathering was presented by newscaster live on TV with the following utterance: "Over 100,000 Tsutomu Miyazakis are in this place"?
....
Give up already?
None other than Comiket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055133
Which is why everyone and their grandma jumped on the Koisuru Fortune Cookie bandwagon not many months later? Wowzers.

>Normalfags don't buy multiple copies for supporting their oshimen
He actually thinks that they do it to "support" someone. You really do live in la-la-land. Also, you still haven't heard of Yahoo resellers.

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>>13054092
lol tfw thats the only route left

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>>13054327
Sasshi gets money from commercials for popular brands (see how they still preferred re-using KoiSuru for Toyota's commercial than Kokoro no Placard), the comedy movies she does in tandem with Fukuda Yuuichi and the royalties from her book. I think being HKT's theater manager also gets her an extra in her paycheck. The family owned agency that her mother runs on her behalf is probably to not let anyone get any share of these profits.

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>>13054036
>Every girl over 13 know that idols must suck yakuza cocks
>tfw you will never be a Yakuza

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054374
>those people make more money than me... Thats it! I'm gonna cut them! That will fix it.

Genius.

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>>13054036
For the same reason little western girls want to become models, singers or those slutty whores that dance in crappy talk shows.

They're 3DPD stupid and most of the time have Honey Booboo tier parents.

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>>13055303
This thread is an amazing honey trap for edgy fedoras.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055268
life is suffering

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>>13055303
Models, singers and slutty whores that dance in crappy talk shows have a lot more freedom than idols and they make more money with less effort.

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>>13054036
Only one word, fame.

The same reason teens in the West ruin their life by going to reality shows. Especially when the whole phenomena started.

>They weren't making any money, TV channels took everything and their image did belong to the channel for like the duration of the show and X weeks/months after.
>They weren't even considered as "actors" back then and had no salary and shit compensation.
>Probably sucking producer's cock or... other contestant's cock at the very least.
>Get ridiculed live on TV, can't get any serious job after this unless they already had some talent.

Yet you'll still find many girls that wants to become "that". Be on TV; whatever the cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055404
This actually make sense

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>>13055404
It's japan, they only need to find a husband and become a housewife, being a idol is a good way to make it easy, there would be a lot of guys wanting to marry a ex-idol.

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>>13055437
Epic, you even went to the Babymetal thread to collect some Sakura Gakuin webums? You're dedicated, bro.

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>>13054160
TV shows would never pick normal looking otaku. They only interview the ugliest motherfuckers they can find.

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>>13055459

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>>13055437
That looks so fun. I wish I enjoyed something that much.

[Anonymous No.]

/vv/ when

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>>13055227
wait, her mother runs her talent agency?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055783
http://media.yucasee.jp/posts/index/14421

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>>13055799
Hmmm, that's strange. Presumably that would mean her mother's company is small-time. How is she able to get Sasshi on well-known TV shows?

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>>13055804
This is something that was created long after Sasshi's mainstream success. You see, after a celebrity gets popular enough to have made a small fortune, it's pretty normal for families and associates to created ad-hoc agencies (or shell companies) to better manage expenditures and royalties. It's just that many don't announce it publicly. I think this is also written somewhere in the article I linked.

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>>13055162
CD sales are in decline all over the world thanks to piracy and the internet. Japan's reaction to these harsh times was to focus on the obsessive fan-market. For example, there are handshake tickets on the singles so any fan can meet his/her favorite idol if s/he buy enough copies. Also, the idol market is built around a direct relationship between the idol and the consumer, the latter support the idol to grow up until graduation. It's a nurturing feeling known as moe

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>>13055024
I see you're pulling all these "facts" right out of your ass.

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>>13055325
I keked

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>>13054036

Idol industry is under attack!!!
(starting with the lower tier division)

One of the well known brick and mortar shops that sells idol swag and host idol events, has closed. Not even this sacred ground is spared!

What will the loyal customers of this shop do now?

>http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20150207-00000020-tospoweb-ent

[Anonymous No.]

>>13057428
>http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20150207-00000020-tospoweb-ent


>東京・秋葉原のジュニアアイドル専門店「おいも屋本舗！」が今月１日に閉店した。雑居ビル内にあった同店は、ジュニアアイドルと呼ばれる１５歳以下の少女 のＤＶＤや写真集を扱った専門店で大人気だった。多くの固定客がいたはずなのに、なぜ閉店したのか。理由を追跡してみると――。
In Tokyo Akihabara, the Junior Idol specialized store "Oimoya Honpo" closed on the first of this month. In the multi-tenant building, the shop was a very popular store that handled a lot U15 DVDs and photobooks. Supposedly there is a a lot of regular customers, so for what reason did the store have to close?

>土日にはアイドルの撮影イベントを行っており、常連客によれば「イベントでは女の子との距離も近くて楽しかった」と好評だった。閉店した１日、学校の教室を模した店内を多くの客が訪れ、在庫整理で値下げされたＤＶＤを熱心に吟味していた。
Each saturday, there was and idol photoshoot event, where according to regular customers you could enjoy "Meeting the girls up close and in person". On the day of closure, there was a lot of customers arriving to the shop resembling of a school-classroom, going enthusiasticly going through all the DVD with price cuts.

>閉店理由について同店の公式サイトでは「セル商品の販売数低下を抑えられず、営業不振により、閉店を余儀なくされました」と説明。今後はネットショップとして引き続き営業していくという。
According to the shops website, sales have been declining over a long time so they have now eventually been forced to close. From now on the store will continue in the form of the net-shop only.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13057444

>しかし、ジュニアアイドルの関係者は「店舗に入れば白い目で見られる時代だけに、ひそかに購入できるネットショップに移行するのは自然な流れ。ただ、昨年の『改正児童ポルノ禁止法』の影響も当然あったでしょうね」と語る。
Although, according to people into Junior Idols, due to getting cold looks simply from entering the shop, it is only natural development that people move onto net shops. However, people are also arguing that this may be a result of the last years CP laws renewal.

>昨年７月に施行された改正児童ポルノ禁止法では、児童ポルノを「衣服の全部又は一部を着けない児童の姿態であって、殊更に児童の性的な部位が露出され又 は強調されているものであり、かつ、性欲を興奮させ又は刺激するもの」と定義している。水着姿が収められているジュニアアイドルのＤＶＤは、これに抵触す る可能性がある。
The renewal of the CP laws last July the definition was changed to include, "juveniles where fully or partially nude, and body parts deliberatly exposed/highlighted in a sexual way, or in a way to stimulated sexual desires. Thus, Junior Idol DVDs with Swimwear is in the grayzone.

>先月にはインターネット通販大手アマゾンジャパンが、児童ポルノ関連の写真集の販売を放置していたとして愛知県警の家宅捜索を受けた。店舗で堂々と販売を続ければ当然目立ち、摘発を受ける可能性も高まる。
Last year, some major mail order companies related to Amazon Japan neglected to stop selling a CP related photo album, and had their premises searched by the aichi prefectural police. Because of this continuing selling openly exposed in a shop is very suspicious and a great risk.

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>>13057458

改正により単純所持にも１年以下の懲役または１００万円以下の罰金が科される。猶予期間として改正法施行から１年間は罰則が適用されないが、前出関係者は「そろそろビジネスとして潮時。あと半年の命だよ」と推測する。
Because of the revision, simply posession is grounds for up to one year penal service or 1 000 000 yen penalty fee. Because of the one year grace period, it is supposedly business as usual for another half year.

一方、あるＤＶＤメーカー関係者は「法律がどのレベルを児童ポルノと扱うのか分かりづらい。７月になってもやめるという話はない」と明かす。だが、 ＤＶＤの流通会社の中には、ジュニアアイドルをやめる会社も出ており「まずは小学生のＤＶＤをやめ、次に中学生と段階的にやめていく可能性もある」（同関 係者）。
The current DVD makers says its hard to know at what level stuff will be treated as CP by the new law. Even if it becomes july, there may not be any discussions about stopping. Although on the distribution side there are companies stepping forward, first we might stop selling the elementary school DVDs, then then junior high DVDs.

単純所持への刑事罰が猶予されるぎりぎりの期限までジュニアアイドルを取り扱えないかと各社が考える裏には、その売り上げの良さがある。
Until the grace period of simply possessing expires, junior idol resellers all have to think hard if there is any merit in keep selling junior idols or not.

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>>13057458


>改正により単純所持にも１年以下の懲役または１００万円以下の罰金が科される。猶予期間として改正法施行から１年間は罰則が適用されないが、前出関係者は「そろそろビジネスとして潮時。あと半年の命だよ」と推測する。
Because of the revision, simply posession is grounds for up to one year penal service or 1 000 000 yen penalty fee. Because of the one year grace period, it is supposedly business as usual for another half year.

>一方、あるＤＶＤメーカー関係者は「法律がどのレベルを児童ポルノと扱うのか分かりづらい。７月になってもやめるという話はない」と明かす。だが、 ＤＶＤの流通会社の中には、ジュニアアイドルをやめる会社も出ており「まずは小学生のＤＶＤをやめ、次に中学生と段階的にやめていく可能性もある」（同関 係者）。
The current DVD makers says its hard to know at what level stuff will be treated as CP by the new law. Even if it becomes july, there may not be any discussions about stopping. Although on the distribution side there are companies stepping forward, first we might stop selling the elementary school DVDs, then then junior high DVDs.

>単純所持への刑事罰が猶予されるぎりぎりの期限までジュニアアイドルを取り扱えないかと各社が考える裏には、その売り上げの良さがある。
Until the grace period of simply possessing expires, junior idol resellers all have to think hard if there is any merit in keep selling junior idols or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13057490

>「ジュニアアイドルの作品はアマゾンで販売できず、大っぴらに宣伝はできないにもかかわらず、大人のグラドルよりも安定して売れて、いったいどこにファン がいるのか、と思うくらい。今から撮りだめて、７月直前までに一気にリリースするメーカーが出てきてもおかしくない」（同）
Even though Junior Idols can't be sold at Amazon and get a lot of exposure, the sales are more stable than adult gravure idols. It's almost as, where the hell are the fans? It's no surprise stuff is still being shot and released, up until July.

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>>13054160
>dat pic

Mass Gomi are known to pick the most extreme off the streets.

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>>13055135

what's date is that source pic?

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>>13054036

That's why I'm encouraging you too switch into "Artists". Mainly A-muse.

They're 3DPD too, don't worry.

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>>13057428
>>13057444
>>13057458
>>13057490

[Anonymous No.]

>>Why a girl would want to become an AKB48 idol?

Fixed the question. I don't know why any girl would want to go through AKB hell.


Some minor idols seem to be doing pretty well. They don't have to work too hard, they don't even have to dance or sing very well and lonely men will praise them. They'll also give them attention, and they get lots and lots of free stuff!

[Anonymous No.]

Yayoi tried becoming an idol so she could feed her family.
Anzu is a self-aware idol with a full intention of becoming a tru-NEET after she earns enough idolbucks.
2D idols are truly great I was going to post in this thread but I noticed it was mainly 3D shite

[Anonymous No.]

>Why a girl would want to become an AKB48 idol?

Fixed the question. I don't know why any girl would want to go through AKB hell.


Some minor idols seem to be doing pretty well. They don't have to work too hard, they don't even have to dance or sing very well and lonely men will praise them. They'll also give them attention, and they get lots and lots of free stuff!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13057458
Hazy laws are hazy.
>in a way to stimulated sexual desires
This could literally be anything. Even if he meant simulated, at what point does licking a popsicle for example cross over from innocent to "in a sexual way / stimulating sexual desires?"

[Anonymous No.]

Girls want to become idols so they can bring feelings of happiness into normal people's lives.

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>>13058051
The piles of shit these girls get at events

Imagine if a bunch of excited young women came out to see you and then gave you fumos and doujinshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>13057535
>actually wanting the fucktard OP to be a fan of your favorite group.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe they just want to bring smiles to people's faces.

[Anonymous No.]

why aren't there many male idols in japan?

also, why is Korea much much better in idol-ing industry

[Anonymous No.]

>>13058586
You mean whoring industry?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13058586
>why aren't there many male idols in japan?

Johnnies and the Exile family, you fucking imbecile

[Anonymous No.]

What's required to be an idol anyways? Most of these girls are pretty fucking average at best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13058748
>What's required to be an idol anyways?
>Most of these girls are pretty fucking average at best.

Isn't that part of the appeal in japan?
they start average and build from the ground up

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>>13056317
Awww, now you're getting really adorable. Not only all of this has no bearing whatsoever on my other post, but the monkey is also starting to parrot word for word some banalities he read on someone's else "critics" corner, for lack of personal experience. Let me guess where you took it from... Japantimes? Here, have a peanut.

Let me tell you a secret: not only meet and greets are probably one of the most commonplace forms of celebrity PR ever in the world (even in the West where the "great alternative" is charging 200 to 300 bucks per entrance tickets, see: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2162298/Celebrities-charging-fans-meet-It-s-pure-greed.html)), but it's always been there.
In the case of idol groups, for the last 30-something years they have been always held to celebrate the released of a new recording and they've always associated the entrance to these events with the proof of purchase of some fan goods. The practice dates far before "CD sales being in decline", so it's hardly a novel idea invented on the spot to cope with "these harsh times".
Here's Morning Musume circa 1997 for you, same thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJTi01Zj3aA

Side note: "moe" is a term I have never seen anyone use outside of a restrict niche of aniotas, you'd better save it for those time you circlejerk on /a/, if you want to be taken seriously.

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>>13058586
>why aren't there many male idols in japan?
this ignorant
get the fuck back to corean.

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>>13054400
uhm... disillusioned doesn't mean what you think it means...

[Anonymous No.]

癌スレ

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>>13054160
FUCK
And I thought that latino otakus were ugly. Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

trust me , just for money.

[Anonymous No.]

Being an idol isnt so bad.

I thought I could become a model, I realized it was not very fun at all, I heard. its most often a scheme.
They hire you, and make you get an expensive apartment, once you are hired they dont give you jobs on purpose, after several months pass you are in heavy debt and thats when the trouble starts, many foreign models end up in prostitution this way.
Luckily I did not become a model, but an "idol" instead, for the sake of safety I will not mention the companies ive worked for or the name ive used, i'm sorry.

I'm truly thankful for the experience, as it helped me earn money when i otherwise couldnt have, this helped me enjoy life in japan.
For the people here saying it is an abusive trade, this is false. There are companies which are shady (80% of business in japan is connected to yakuza in some way), obviously the theme of the entertainment is such, but the treatment of those involved is not shady, even casting. There ARE shady people in the business but due to the market being the way it is, people can always find a job in a different place that treats them better, this causes a lot of production companies to be very careful.
There is little room for lechery, parents are often there, during casting and shooting. MANY people are involved, at least two dozen or so sometimes men and women, there is no shady man alone in a room with a girl. It is professional. Besides schoolgirl prostitution is rampant, why would they need to fuck business associate?

The business is not misogynist either, many women work in the business. My casting agent was a woman. Many make-up artists are women, as well as the camera operators themselves are women. It is not a man's business built in tricking the innocent girl.
In my time working ive never once seen a yakuza, in modern times they work in loans and helping businesses get started, so they are only on money side of things, never seen in person mostly.

will answer more questions. if there is any

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>>13054066
>daddy issues
Elaborate.

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>>13055037
>>13054471
>>13055268
>>13055289
Who are you quoting?

Where are all this keking crossboarders coming from?

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>>13059841
i apologize my english is not great.

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>>13059855
>kek
Probably same place you did.

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>>13059841
How old were you? Were you scouted or did you look for a production company yourself? If the latter, does one just go up there or do they have like periodic auditions?
Which jobs as an idol pay the best?

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>>13059915
Report and ignore, dude.

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>>13059846
its just an ignorant gaijin talking out of his ass, I don't think he could elaborate anything more about the topic.

[Anonymous No.]

i don't like idols because they act so fake, you can really smell that behind the fake smile there's some insane mother which dreams never came true, holding a gun on its daughters head if she won't life her dreams of becoming an idol

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>>13059921
9. scouted. there are plenty of people who send videos of themselves in, that method is usually preferred since everyone is busy, you make an appointment etc. they will rarely turn anyone down, especially if you are foreign and cute. It helps if you have a talent, like gymnastics, baton, dance, etc.
If you are talking about stage idols, it is much harder, the older you are the harder it is, unfortunately.

Well, big jobs like being a singing idol, talento, or an AKB.
Best attainable job for an idol? that would be gravure.

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>>13054524
>>13055108
>>13055135
>>13055162
>>13058795
Why do you know so much about idolshit? Are you perhaps a virgin? Because accumulating useless knowledge is what virgins do instead of getting laid.

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>>13060160
As a matter of fact I'm just done fucking you're mother B^)

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>>13054036
fun? Its not like its a full time job. I dont think anyones looking for money with it

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>>13058202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbFhOeqTzY

[Anonymous No.]

>>13058218
There are women on the handshake events but the majority is overwhelming male, overweight and smelly

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>>13060220

[Anonymous No.]

idol otaku are creepy

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck you I wish I could be an idol ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060250
Holy cow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060250
Wasn't it for the Mayuyu towel, I wouldn't have guess this was an akushukai photo

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060250
Is that a mixed nigger?

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>>13060160
Dude what board do you think you're on?

Otaku culture is about accumulating useless information.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060436
Full Japanese

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>>13060443
I'm more surprised that there are still people coming to /jp/ while trying to stir up shit by telling us that we're virgins or something. Most don't really care about such trivial things.

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>>13059915
I'll point out for your benefit I was referring to other people like
>>13054100
using it, if it wasn't already painfully obvious.

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>>13059994
I didn't think he could he either, that's why I posted that.

>>13060160
Are you lost?

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>>13054036
The question should be why wouldn't anyone want to be an idol.
Everyone wants to be special/superior and what's more special than a star/celebrity or whatever you call a person on stage/tv.

Sure there might be a lot of short comings to the job once you are actually one but people tend to behave irrationally in times of want or am foolishly optimistic enough to believe that they will be different.

Also what else are you going to do with your life anyway. Life sucks wall to wall so why not try something ridiculous?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13058586
>Coreans

Different market.
Koreans hire composers from all over the world to analyze the trend and deliver sick beats, and these composers share their knowledge with the koreans themselves. Their market is the world.
Compare this to Japan where everything is muh home country pride, and their main demographic is the Japanese people.

Behind those corean glamour and fame tho, the agency strip their idols off their human rights.
They set an image of who you are, how you should act, isolate you into your dorms, set a harsh diet, program your daily activities, etc.
Not to mention the necessary plastic surgery to suit the new identity the agency gave you.

It's much worse than Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060720
>Their market is the world.

Ha, you wish. For all appearance of "international appeal", 70% of KPop profits come from Japan, how fucking ironic.

http://www.j-cast.com/2014/04/21202784.html?p=all

Not surprising, the reason they chose to invade Japan with their shit for a brief period in 2010-11 was because it was a neighboring country, somewhat culturally compatible, with a big enough music scene to accomodate everyone to a successful degree and close enough that they could make any group "debut" there at the cost of a simple ferry ride. Not to mention lots of zainichi friends pulling the strings for them at Fuji TV.
Yet Japan, the biggest source of their money flow, rejected it nonetheless.
What other significant support does KPop get worldwide? I see only some mutual backscratching from isolated Koreatown, mostly driven by a false sense of racial belonging.

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>>13059841
Hey, this is cool. So what do gaijin idols do there? Do they need translators 24/7? If you don't mind me asking, how good was your wage? Doesn't have to be an exact number. Range is okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060720
>Behind those corean glamour and fame tho, the agency strip their idols off their human rights.
>They set an image of who you are, how you should act, isolate you into your dorms, set a harsh diet, program your daily activities, etc.
>Not to mention the necessary plastic surgery to suit the new identity the agency gave you.
That sounds exactly like Japanese idols, minus the plastic surgery. Not that idols don't get plastic surgery but it's not as extreme as the korean surgery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060764
K-pop is related with K-dramas and bitches love K-dramas, especially on third world countries. Korean fags give concerts on Latin America and teen girls lost their shit over them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060764
>Link to moonrunes I can't even comprehend, but is most likely nip propaganda.

Assuming that article is correct:
While profits is important, the ultimate goal of the industry is to invade the world with their "culture".
The music generates an interest for their home country, and serves as a gateway for further opportunities in the future.

Now here's why I can say it's nip propaganda:
I don't know how Korean music fares in the west (which I assume where you live in, since you don't seem to know how crazy Kpop is on the other side of the world), but in Asia, Kpop is a big business that have become mainstream here, a different dimension altogether compared to Jpop.
Kpop blares on radio here and there, and on basically any hangout place available. Even people past 50 knows a thing or two about Kpop.
The only Jpop you would get on radio would be a Japanese version of Kpop, or Kokoro no Tomo. Any other Jpop would be played in Japanese exclusive stores or Japanese themed cafes.

Why would they rely on Japan's market when they are already frying a bigger fish?
South East Asia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, China.
They have established their presence all over these countries and become a part of their culture of sorts.

If there's a nip cultural thing that can compete with Kpop in spreading Japanese culture all over the world, it would be the anime/manga culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055024
You're just talking out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060939
Anime/manga has been in decline since the early 2000s. Even the nips accept that they haven't been able to create another international hit comparable to DBZ or Pokemon. The international market is substained by weeaboos and nostalgiafags

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>>13060971
>decline
>more and higher quality series and more anime originals every year
>profits at an all time high
>movies at an all time high
>largest global market of all time
>decline

[Anonymous No.]

>>13055669
It's not quite the same, but watching Perfume in London was a lot of fun. I'd recommend it.

[Anonymous No.]

>Minegishi's scandal

This is so stupid. So they pretty much torture and shame an idiol if she decides to fuck someone just because some otaku's feelings might get hurt? What bullshit troglodyte mentality is that!

If she wants to fuck someone away from the public eye, and in private, let her fuck! As long as she's not acting lewd in public, who cares!

http://www.jpopasia.com/news/akb48s-minami-minegishi-demoted-to-trainee-shaves-head-as-punishment-for-scandal::12951.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>13059921
Opinions on Johnny's Entertainment and their monopoly on Japanese TV?

I worked as an audio engineer for j-pop events in Japan and Kazunari Ninomiya seemed like such a prick, but they were good entertainers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054391
>Looks like a bunch of normalfucks to me, bruh
Where the heck did you grow up, Tromaville?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062548
different anon here

>Kazunari Ninomiya seemed like such a prick
Ugliest arashi, I knew he would be a prick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062580
one of my friends worked at fuji tv on buzzer beat and he said yamapi was a huge asshole

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062666
It wouldn't surprise me if everyone from Johnny's was an asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062666
>yamapi

http://youtu.be/f6T0p7e6qo4

This shit is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060939
Japan has the second biggest music industry in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062690
Johnny Kitagawa torned their assholes. True story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054524
Is that a viewer poll on the screen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062541
neets are their life

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062541
Well, who buys their products?

Most people don't give a fuck. The people who do give a fuck are under the impression that they are paying her to fulfill their ideals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054036
>>13062541

Now it got me thinking.
Girls have strict "no fucking around" policy, but how about the male idols?

While I believe the same policy is being applied, it seems to me that there's a double standard and they would have more room to bullshit their way into someone's panties?

Anyone can clarify?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060011
Were you a candygirl? Nine seems super young.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13063677
But isn't it attractive for males to sleep around.

You know the double standard society has with views on sex for males and females.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13063677
Male idols are allowed to fuck but many landwhales may have problems if their favorite ikemen has a serious relationship. Women don't like virgins

[Anonymous No.]

>>13063677
They actually aren't supposed to date either but double standards and all that and nothing will happen to him. If his fans know who the girl is, she'll get shit on though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13059841
Are older idols (18+) common? Even foriegn older girls?
Cinderella Girls has me curious.

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>>13063859
Some months ago, it was revealed that some guy from Exile was dating Tomomi Itano. The landwhales destroyed Itano's twitter, calling her whore and ordering her to break up with their husbando. Meanwhile, the landwhales didn't touch the Exile guy, probably they saw him as a victim of that dirty whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>13063983
What's will all this talk of "double standards" like it's some kind of bad thing? Men and women aren't the same, so no shit the standards will be different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13063983
>landwhales

I thought everyone was thin in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13064064
Hasn't been that way for a long time now, mate. They've even passed a law where you can't get health care if you're too fat. Gotta keep all those old folks alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13063983

Define "landwhale" in japan.

a nip "landwhale" may be considered normal-sized in mericaland.

[Anonymous No.]

I think it's less landwhale and more middle-aged housewives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062570
Are you looking at the old ass collage that 2ch uses exclusively for trolling? Because I'm referring to the site collecting actual photos from fan events, dude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13064239
>Define "landwhale" in japan.

こんな奴

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062541
>they

Define "they"

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060939
What is "here" exactly? Just some third world SEAsian country? What you are essentially describing is that countries that don't have enough domestic media production to fill their channels have to resort to importing media from abroad, and in most of the cases the choice of what to import is just based on who could offer the biggest deal at the cheapest price, so as to keep costs in check.
I'm from Europe, but I've seen this phase with my eyes too. Back in the '70s and '80s there was a boom of local TV stations and a problem arose: not all the time slots could be filled with self-produced programs, in fact entire hours of programming were left empy. So what happened is that everyone started importing what was more affordable and more mass-produced: in the case of dramas, it was South American soap operas; in the case of cartoons, it was anime such as Doraemon and super robot series.
Whether they became popular or not by forcible exposure is another story, but just like your radios blaring KPop 24/7, this wasn't a choice dictated by popular demand at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13064372
Besides, this also explains why neither KPop nor anime managed to make a breakthrough in the American mainstream: radio stations already overflowed with self-produced songs while TV stations had already enough cartoons to keep their airwaves busy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062690
mte

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>>13063677
they fuck around and get away with it of course.
male idols are shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13060788
Gravure, modelings or being in commercial.
Its rare for foreigner to be in gravure, most model for clothing stores because westerners are attractive, japanese want to be westerners.

I did need help understanding early on I had a lot of trouble understanding but it got easier as i got older.
Wage was very good, I dont remember exactly how much I made when I was younger because my mother handled, it was enough for me to never worry about money, buy whatever id like, and afford school. Things in japan are very expensive, so that should give you some idea.

>>13063980
There are many older idols.
Being an idol is ( i forget how to say) intermediate job. Most idols go on to be something else after they get older, Juniors may stop once they get past 15 and live normal lives, some do it to pay for college and once they have a job, they quit. Although, money is much too good and they often come back to it.

Older idols exist, theres lots of photobooks etc of older women. Like i said, foreigners are always in high demand. But I dont think gaijin milf is a much desired genre though, i am not sure. Most older women go into pornography.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13064442
Women will accept anything from an attractive man. Its okay because he is gorgeous.

Men will not accept a woman being loose. this is just how life is. The sexes are different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13065000
Both sexes engage in both, with different people giving different priority to one over the other.

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>>13064372
Define Third World, do you even know ASEAN bruh? Combined together our economy could topple China.
Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam. These are 1st world and giant developing market right here.
Taiwan and Hongkong has their own Canto-pop going awry right before Kpop entered the market and they kind of lost their identity afterwards.

It's not about producing enough domestic content anyways.
If anything, radio stations in Malaysia and Indonesia are dominated with songs of their own language, and Singaporean prefers Mando-pop and western pop anyways.

Kpop penetrated Asia with brute force, glamour and all, and become a cultural phenomenon.
It's like how the anime/manga culture becomes a lifestyle of sorts here instead of how the western views it as a pastime that is frowned upon.

Get yourself a vacation here and see how things operate. The SEA region is like a melting pot of culture from all over Asia.

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>>13065000
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.]

>>13065000
Are you trolling or retarded? I can't respond further until I know which it is.

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>>13065192
Korean entertainment has the goverment support and it's manufactured with an international market in mind while Japan as a nation stopped giving a shit about the rest of the world after the 90s so its entertainment is too focused on the local market.

It doesn't help that S. Korea is promoted as Asia's new cool kid while Japan only get headlines for lol wacky Japan

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>>13065192
>ASEAN
>Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam.

Leaves out one of ASEAN's major country

[Anonymous No.]

kusothread

[Anonymous No.]

They dont, its brainwashing by the parents to get money.

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>>13061400
>more and higher quality series and more anime originals every year

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh fucking wow
And profits are high because hikki population keeps increasing
Fuck off /a/

[Anonymous No.]

Just looked into my favorite jpop bands and turns out they're korean. Huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13065192
>Vietnam
>1st world
I'm a vietnamese and let's not kid ourselves here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069875
Please let this be bait.
If you can't even recognize the language apart from Korean why are you even here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069898
To make /jp/sies mad.

It's the only reason they post Corean shit here, and worse of all, janjan allows it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069898
I'm Japanese and not even I could tell they weren't native speakers. But yeah whitey keep defending 日本 in the internet, just make sure to keep it in YT comment. It's kind of embarrassing anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069925
Fuck you japcuck.

[Anonymous No.]

My dream is to be an idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069947
My dream is to be an idol rapist, but I wouldn't rape you because you are an /jp/sie i.e. my FRIEND!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069925
I thought you meant they were literally singing in Korean and you couldn't tell that it was Korean and not Japanese, calm your tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069969
No need to be nice to a japcuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069968
Thank you, I will give you an autograph if I become one

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069985
Thank you, my friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13063980
>Are older idols (18+) common?
It's mostly younger girls but it depends on the group. 13 out of the 16 girls on AKB's new single are over 18 for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13059841
>model whores

so... is MM OG kusumi koharu a whore now? that makes me wet

[Anonymous No.]

>>13063533
Japan don't see the diference between love and samurái loyalty. For buying the merchandise aka supporting their oshimen, the wotas feel entitled to rule over an idol's life. Japan is a feudal society after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>13070450
Just like fanboys/girls here on the west, right?
Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13070471
Not really. Image is essential on the entertainment industry but shaving idols and purity clauses are a Japan thing. Westerners are more hypocrite, they hide better and pretend they aren't selling sex

[Anonymous No.]

but honestly they just waste out their bucks for nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13070506
Why is someone trying so hard to get /jp/ to like/hate/maymay this dude's face?

[Anonymous No.]

>>13070437
Do you have any idea of what OG stands for before using it?

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>>13059841
>>13070333
>after several months pass you are in heavy debt and thats when the trouble starts, many foreign models end up in prostitution this way.
>It's mostly younger girls
Verboten!

[Anonymous No.]

>>13054048
>Japanese have trouble dating anyway.
But if you're as hot as an idol then being able to get dates is not a problem for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13069893
I'm sure he means Singapore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13062541
They're called "idols" not only because they're celebrities, they're pretty much worshipped.
In AKB girls are forbidden from having relationships. It's in their contract. By fugging a guy not only do they breach it, they also become a defective product in the eyes of obsessive fans.

>>13069773
You should probably refrain from talking about things you don't care/know nothing about

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>>13071403
>defective product
They're human beings, they can't be treated as an object. Unfortunately, Japan doesn't believe in human rights

[Anonymous No.]

>>13071617
Their on-stage persona is a product though. Not having sex is part of their job.
The girls know what they're getting into from the very beginning. If they aren't okay with the rules, they should pick a different career.
You can talk about them not being objects all you want, but fans aren't gonna obsess over them and buy thousands of copies of CDs because of respect for human rights. An unchaste idol isn't profitable and the industry is a business, not a charity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13071850
Human rights are inalienable, a contract isn't valid if it affect the human rights. At least that's how the civilized world works

[Anonymous No.]

>>13071903
It's something they voluntarily agree to. A legal injunction against having sex would be a violation of human rights; a contractual obligation is not.

If a company kidnaps and forces me to work on a ship for six months, that's a violation of human rights. If I agree to stay on the ship for six months, that's entirely different, even though my freedom to go to Paris has been restricted for those six months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13071903
I don't know if you're being serious, but let me spell it out for you.

Idol fuggs = most important fans go away
not enough fans = idol makes little profit
idol makes little profit = gets replaced by an idol with profit potential

get it? They don't go to jail over this. It's just the way this industry works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13071921
>>13071926
The fact that the Japanese society accept the idea of young girls forced to act like asexual caricatures for the money of adult men speaks very loudly about Japan's social issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13071938
Japanese society also accepts the idea of young girls (of idol age, anyway - Minegeshi's hardly young anymore) being gangbanged on camera for the money of adult men, and yet most countries don't outlaw pornography.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13071938
What part of 'they agree to this when they sign the contracts' do you not get? No one forces anyone to become an idol anymore than anyone forces you to post on /jp/. I agree it's fucked up but they agree to it themselves, no one holds a gun to their heads and forces them to sign their contracts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>13071938
I don't know about what you said, but I can see the logic behind young girls voluntarily selling their image to paying consumers.

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>>13071948
These girls agree because they live on a nation that taught them that they don't matter that much and their only goal in life should be marriage. If society tells the girls that they're useful just as a sex toy or making babies, it's obvious most girls will accept it.

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>>13071973
Go on, stop by a handshake event and try to tell the girl that she's a slave to the system when it's your turn. I'm sure the scales will fall off her eyes and she'll suddenly realize that she should quit the idol business.

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>>13071938

Yeah, murrkan pop stars getting pregnant with niggas are so much better right?

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>>13071973

What are you even doing here? You are a completely fucking retarded sheep brainwashed by TV and awesome BBC articles.

Women in japan have more purchasing power than men for a decade now. They buy more real estate than males for almost 15 years now. But how could you know that?

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>>13072007
Women are still forced to choose between marriage and work, that's one of the main reasons of the negative birth rate

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>>13071617
>Unfortunately, Japan doesn't believe in human rights

I would say it is more a disregard for those unrelated to yourself, than any active disbelief in human rights. Its a similar ideology in Korea and China. Confucianism is a bitch.

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>>13072059
>marriage and work

NEET for life

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>>13072059
lucky them, they have an easymode option that men dont have.

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>>13070558
Original Gangsta?

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>>13072640
Stay at home dads are real.

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>>13059841
Are you Hilary?

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>>13072867
I thought in Japan they're still looked down on even worse than in the US? I mean yea, they're a thing here in 'the West' or whatever, but I'm sure a large portion of the population looks down on that sort of husband/father, so over there with their '16-hr-day-workday' mentality surely it's even worse?

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>>13067407
Honestly who gives a fuck about the Philippines. Actually, who gives about SEA in general.

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>>13071973
Holy shit. The amount of shitpost you've been posting is incredible.

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>>13072059
So how does marriage and work somehow affect the engative birth rate. What the fuck

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I want to fuck some Japanese idols.

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>>13073591
Women want to work rather than staying at home
Men can't deal with the idea of women having their own thoughs and dreams
Both groups lock themselves on fantasies like ikemen, idols, games, enjou kosai, hosts/hostess clubs, etc.

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>>13073861
Idols only fuck yakuzas or ikemen

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>>13073591
the newer generations are socially awkward as fuck when it comes to meeting and approaching new people
low self esteem due to perceived cultural demands that they believe they will never meet
if you havent found a qt during your school life, you are most likely out of luck as it's hard to meet members of the opposite sex in public
why is it hard? many japanese thoroughhly enjoy their privacy, now whether they genuinely enjoy it or it's due to not wanting to connect with others due to possible disappointment is up in the air depending on the individual
it's also hard to find a stable and good paying job in the more densely populated areas

in the end, it's not really a bad thing, they do after all live on a tiny island, so it is good for their sustainability
it's really only bad for the government because they are too aggressive with their program implementations and the whole hurr durr need to be top of the line so must expand and spend our way into debt mentality needs more taxpayers to keep its retarded self afloat

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Girls want to become idols because they don't want to concede to society's pressure to make women sluts and deep down inside want to stay pure forever
You can make fun of me for it but it's partially true

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>>13075321
Why do you even reply to him, Onii-chan?

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>>13075276
>Men can't deal with the idea of women having their own thoughts and dreams
Still, do people actually seriously believe this? I know that normies think that all men are evil but come on now.

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>>13077833
Women are just as big of shit stains as men, we don't need to double the amount of dumbasses with power, that is why only men should make the decisions. We don't need the world to go to shit any faster.

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>>13077870

Except you wouldn't be doubling the amount of dumbasses, you moron. You'd be replacing some male ones with female. Population growth is what would double the amount of dumbasses, and guess what women who stay at home and have babies contribute to.

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>>13078028
>women who stay at home and have babies
Women don't do that anymore anon.

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>>13071973
>>>/tumblr/

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>>13055135
"Over 100,000 Tsutomu Miyazakis are in this place"?

That is some really rude shit.

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>>13078028
because women with power would only work within the confines of already existing companies and will never create their own/branch out
righttttt
u r dumb shit

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>>13078172
Lies and slander

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>>13054036
It's very simple : watch any Budokan concert from any idol group, focus on audience, wotas and then look at idols' eyes. Any human being would crave to be worshipped like this.

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>>13075321
Can a gaijin make it in the yakuza?

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>>13084446
Only as a soldier. The high rank yakuzas fuck idols, not the soldiers

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>An ikemen is a good-looking man. Ikemen is a new word which appeared around the year 2000.
Fuck this. Go watch the /jp/ vs /h/ with us >>>/vg/95088070

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>>13054098
is anyone on /jp/ ikkemen? there's so few boys in the western jfashion online world, only a few neckbeards in waistcoats

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>>13054036
/jp/ vs /h/. /h/ being idol with idol music.
/jp/ themesong!

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>>13085293
>>13085327
Fuck off with your stupid board games.

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>>13055459
Of course not. Mainstream media will always be for the dumb masses that need to compensate their insecurity about not being special in any way.

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>>13076134 >>13071617 >>13071903
What about this theory : Followers feel honored by idol's effort of being pure therefore fans stay loyal to them?

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I don't know how fans deal with graduation. I mean if you live long enough (if God hates you you will) the idol group you follow in the first place won't have any founding members left.

>>13077833
what is misgony
Recent '/v/'s autism in bringing feminist is my recent proof

>>13077870
>We don't need the world to go to shit any faster.
So, isis population declination good or bad?

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>>13086715
>Recent '/v/'s autism in bringing feminist is my recent proof
I literally can't figure out what you're trying to say. 'autism in bringing feminist' ... what? Also, isn't it kind of laughable that you're trying to educate others on being prejudiced against women while also openly mocking autism just like the rest of 4chan?

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>>13086726
The rest of 4chan don't bring it outside of 4chan. At least 1/3 of /v/ did it on gamergate, and that's where they start crumbling.

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>>13055459
The hardcore wotas ready to burn their CDs if their oshimen isn't pure anymore are a vocal minority. The problem is they spend more money than any other demographic.

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>>13086715
Do you think oldest idols in a given group don't feel troubled to each other when they are about to graduate?

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>>13072867
Only if the wife allows it.

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>>13086919
Yea, fuck /v/ and its ''charities'' for ''female game developers''.
They only give 4chan a bad image.

>crumbling

[Anonymous of Alabama !.p44NyTsCo No.]

Anyone speaking approvingly of supporting SJW stuff should exit life.

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>>13087163
they won and beat the internet bullies.

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>>13087183
Is that the agenda the SJWs are pushing onto you?
Well you must be very proud then, beating up the patriarchy.

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>>13054036
Sadako?

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>>13087183
>#bringbackbullying
So the SJWs beat themselves up?
That saves us a lot of trouble.

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>>13086715
They will return.
kitto

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>>13054036
And after you stop working and being old, everything and everyone will forget about whatever you do. You only live once and it is not going to be carried in heaven. If one wants to be proud up there, it is something that one shall carry from earth.
If you don't having a blast in at least one fulfilling part of your life

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>>13055135
>anime is actually one of the few that was never graced with mainstream recognition

People really believe this? In japan anime airs on TV, man, TV. It's mainstream media. You don't need to be part of any niche cultural group to watch it.

Here in Latin America there was a time when anime was on TV and literally everyone still remembers Ranma 1/2 and the perverted transgender stuff they did back then, the same stuff that make"otaku" today think theyre special snowflakes. TV stations made enough money out of publicity even when not owning the product.

Now picture japan. There's literally no law or cultural barrier that can stop a multimillionaire market. Whether people like it or not, they're flooded with idol products.

Also, as >>13064372 said
>Back in the '70s and '80s there was a boom of local TV stations and a problem arose: not all the time slots could be filled with self-produced programs (...) So what happened is that everyone started importing what was more affordable and more mass-produced

Finally someone gets it. The only reason here in Latin America the same TV stations that brought anime started to wage a moralistic war against it was that they would earn more profits with their own products (which were shittier) so they had to take down the competition.

It'd really benefit everyone taking the exotic oriental culture stance to think a little bit of their own culture and how the mass media doesn't respect any cultural-moral belief in order to force people into buying stuff.

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>>13054036

Because idols dont need academic or intellectual achievements, idols are famous because are idols.

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>>13056317
>>13086715
About graduation and members, look at /a/, It's been 11 years and not much of originalfags are left. But they manage to pass down whatever making them /a/. I think some groups are about feelings that will continue as time passes instead of specifies member.

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>>13069765
>>13060764
Top anything earn everything.
Asia : Big 3 mangaka
Europe : Football superstar
USA : Pop star (they are basically idol but the only thing they do is singing)
South America : Illegal plants owner/druglords
Africa : Blood diamond. Go search for De Beers (it is actually a diamon company's name)
Australia : Underground Kangaroo Boxing's Promotor

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>>13093259

I think USA is more centered on Divas... that's why we have some of the greatest like Mariah Carrey, Whitney Houston etc etc.