Ask someone who is teaching English in Japan anything.

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Anonymous Fri Jan 23 07:54:37 2015 No.12943060 [Reply] [Original]

Ask someone who is teaching English in Japan anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 07:56:38 2015 No.12943063 >>12943060 Are there hotpockets over there too?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 07:58:07 2015 No.12943066 File: 144 KB, 750x638, Fran.(FFXII).full.15783.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12943063 No such thing. They've got Doritos, though. Thank God.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:01:43 2015 No.12943070 what's the point of this silly armour, the shoulder things or horns are not gonna protect you from anything, they're just extra weight the japanese educational system is doomed anyway if it lets idiots from 4chan teach their kids

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:02:14 2015 No.12943071 >>12943070 Shit looks cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:05:36 2015 No.12943076 File: 54 KB, 311x750, 1407849750917.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12943070 Thankfully it only lets the geniuses from 4chan teach.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:07:32 2015 No.12943079 >>12943070 ever heard of ornamental armor dude?? that's what knights wear to photoshoots

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:07:42 2015 No.12943080 >>12943070 Seriously, just hit the guys horns and you break his neck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:07:58 2015 No.12943081 NOVA will KILL U

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:09:04 2015 No.12943084 >>12943060 Where in Japan do you teach? Do you find it to be extremely expensive or manageable?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:13:17 2015 No.12943093 do you fug the lolis

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:17:54 2015 No.12943107
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>>12943084
Near Hamamatsu. About halfway between Kyoto and Tokyo.

Living is manageable. Food is pretty damn cheap and so is rent. Then again, I live in a pretty isolated part of town in a single bedroom apartment. That being said, the major downtown area is only a 20 minute drive. So, it depends on where you live. However, traveling is pretty expensive. The bullet train will cost you over $100 USD easy if you're doing a round trip. All other forms will eventually add up to a similar amount since you pay by distance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:19:50 2015 No.12943113 File: 310 KB, 1053x1070, 1408165516919.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12943093 No, but I do get frequently violated. I dunno what's the deal with the finger-up-the-arse thing, but that's popular with the youngins.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 08:26:03 2015 No.12943123 kuso thread no one cares OP

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 09:42:52 2015 No.12943267 Nobody cares. Go to >>>/int/36540959 and never come back.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 10:39:05 2015 No.12943370 How do you deal with the crushing loneliness?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 10:41:39 2015 No.12943375 How many times have you got asked to go homu?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 10:54:30 2015 No.12943382 File: 54 KB, 268x375, homu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12943375 >go homu who HOMU here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 11:01:53 2015 No.12943387 >>12943060 Can someone who doesn't know Japanese go to Japan by themselves and expect to have an enjoyable trip?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 11:41:44 2015 No.12943456 >>12943387 Everyone will laugh at you for being a loser

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 17:05:40 2015 No.12944398 >>12943387 Im not OP but I went to Japan by myself and had a great time. I'm fluent in Japanese though. If your not fluent you are going to have a difficult time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:15:18 2015 No.12944989 >>12943070 It helps him sell his sword, and paint.

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>>12943387
Try to get to N5 minimum and you'll manage okay. I lived in Tokyo for a while and basic Japanese skills are not overrated. Think about reading maps, menu's, being able to keep up with the news or even do something simple as mail postcards. Also, Nips will take you at least a bit more seriously if you actually made an effort to learn, though not much.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 19:39:54 2015 No.12945114 Why is Gabranth so awesome and why are you a shit, OP?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:19:15 2015 No.12945282 >>12944398 how'd you gain fluency if you don't mind me asking? Live over there, Jap family, self taught?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:27:26 2015 No.12945311 >>12945282 watch too many chinese cartoons

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:28:41 2015 No.12945315 >>12943060 Are there actually cute otaku girls?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 20:29:11 2015 No.12945318 >>12943060 Are you intending to buy any of the Yohji Yamamoto x Evangelion products?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:36:55 2015 No.12945833 File: 21 KB, 376x480, milly2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12943370 The people I work with are surprisingly friendly. I've been invited over for dinner and out for a few drinks. FYI, the Japanese are all drunks.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:39:42 2015 No.12945843
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>>12943387
OP here, it would definitely be tough. Hotel staff usually have at least one person who is decent in Japanese, but outside of that, you're on your own. Fortunately, everyone in the company I work with speaks Japanese, and they even provided me with a translator to help me get settled. As far as simply touring Tokyo, though, there's plenty of tourist-focused companies that can help you along. Outside of the big cities, it is definitely a struggle.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:40:43 2015 No.12945845 File: 136 KB, 511x414, Drace.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12945114 Because hatred isn't what guides me.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:43:40 2015 No.12945855

>>12945282
Zero fluency. Which is actually preferred because most JHSs and HSs want the foreign teachers to only speak in English. I have been practicing a lot, and there's plenty of resources in my community to help learn since there is a large immigrant population. I did self teach myself to read/write Hiragana and Katakana.

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:46:22 2015 No.12945859
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>>12945315
Maybe in Akibahara. The Japanese are exceptionally good at hiding their power level. Most kids and young adults are interested in games and anime in some way, so it's not a huge deal as it is when finding a nerd in the states. As far as cute goes, it depends on how much the Asian physique and face attracts you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:47:20 2015 No.12945863 Tell me which paints you know. Also, is there anywhere I can buy your sword from?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:47:23 2015 No.12945865 File: 81 KB, 640x480, dragon_quest_viii_004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12945318 Fuck. No.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:48:33 2015 No.12945867 Why do you make kusothreads?!

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:50:45 2015 No.12945873

How often do people act condescending towards you? Or treat you like a moron in general? How true are all the things people say about them treating foreigners like trash. Is there any difference in the way people treat you depending on their age group?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:50:59 2015 No.12945874 File: 143 KB, 1380x1080, old-snake-with-tashe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12945863 No, but here's his sexy helmet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 22:53:36 2015 No.12945879 >>12943060 You said you had 0 fluency. Do they put you in a language school for a year? How do they teach you Japanese in order to teach their students English?

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 23:07:23 2015 No.12945935
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>>12945867
Please tell me what a kuso thread is.
>>12945873
Considering my position, I am expected to be clueless about a lot of things. A bit of enthusiasm and eagerness to learn goes a long way. Most of the teachers I work with are eager to learn English, too. The only times I've felt any condensation is when I'm trying to explain to a cashier what I want from the menu. Apparently the incessant pointing at what I want turns them off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 23:08:24 2015 No.12945940 >>12945874 >>12945863 Sorry. Here: http://www.amazon.com/Square-Enix-Fantasy-r%C3%A9plique-casque-Gabranth/dp/B0015MQV8W

Anonymous Fri Jan 23 23:11:54 2015 No.12945952
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>>12945879
Using basic English and a lot of gestures. The problem with the Japanese education system is that they test and drill the grammar and written portions. There's virtually zero oral examination or verbal lessons. That's my job. I'm usually only reinforcing points they've already learned from their Japanese English teacher, but I'm doing it in a way that encourages them to use the grammar and rules verbally in everyday conversation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 23 23:39:49 2015 No.12946049 is the food any good

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 00:01:54 2015 No.12946130

>>12945935
>Apparently the incessant pointing at what I want turns them off.

If you've ever worked in retail, you'd know it is a huge annoyance. People who are unable to communicate with you are the worst, and everybody involved just winds up getting cranky and shitty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 00:03:14 2015 No.12946136 File: 12 KB, 300x168, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12946049 It's good and pretty cheap. Everything is in smaller portions, though, which is a pain on my giant America gut.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 00:04:58 2015 No.12946140 >>12946130 I worked at a bookstore in a Hispanic neighborhood. Luckily, I spoke Spanish, so easy mode. And I would argue customers who yell at you and insult you are the worst, but we've had different experiences.

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 00:10:51 2015 No.12946180

How did you manage to live the first month or so? Did you knew just a few words in Japanese or you went prepared?

Point is, im inches away to just toss a job I have here and run away to Japan, even to just serve beer at some shitty bar. Im fluent in english, italian, spanish and I know a bit of german and french, but no jap (I could study it for a while).

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 00:48:21 2015 No.12946302
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>>12946180
It went well. Again, my company provided me with a translator that helped me get settled. Apartment, phone, even an apartment for cheap. It's easy enough to pick up the essential words and phrases you need to get by, but there's also a lot of stuff to read. Tokyo is much more tourist friendly, so you can get by with minimal Japanese. As far as you plan for running away, I don't want to stop you from following your dream, but it's preferable if you have someone Japan-side to help you out, even if it's just a place to crash for a while. And be extremely careful where you look for work. There's plenty of people that try to lure foreigners into debt schemes that seem favorable when you first join.

But that is all far from my own experience. Teaching in a small town, I've had amazing luck with the graciousness of my coworkers. I applied for this job Stateside and knew I had it before I flew over. All I can say is be cautious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 00:49:23 2015 No.12946303 >>12946302 >>12946180 car for cheap*

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 01:06:11 2015 No.12946354

>>12945873
Another ESL teacher in Japan here.

>How often do people act condescending towards you? Or treat you like a moron in general?
You're generally expected to know no Japanese and nothing about their "crazy Japanese culture", so you get the proverbial pat on the head when you use chopsticks correctly or can say a few words in Japanese. But once you get to know people, they start treating you like a human bean.

>How true are all the things people say about them treating foreigners like trash.
You don't usually get treated like "trash". Again, you're treated more like a child than anything. Some people can be kind of jerks, but the worst I've experienced is people ignoring me when I say a passing "hello".

>Is there any difference in the way people treat you depending on their age group?
Kids are generally pretty open, but because their mental filters haven't fully developed, you could very likely get told off. Younger folks are quite accepting and seem to be able to do away with preconceptions pretty easily. Middle-aged folks, too. Older people are a toss-up - some people are incredibly friendly upon first meeting and some people pretend you don't exist. But it seems like a lot of people are genuinely at a loss as to how to talk to you or behave around you.

>>	Anonymous-Chan Sat Jan 24 01:10:48 2015 No.12946371 File: 26 KB, 720x404, tommy-wiseau.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12946354 >like a human bean

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 01:12:56 2015 No.12946379 File: 29 KB, 432x588, i_m_only_a_human_bean_by_dragonsrawr-d7khkac[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12946371 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 02:07:49 2015 No.12946546 >>12946354 Where do you teach?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 02:23:55 2015 No.12946593 >>12946546 In the middle of nowhere in Kyushu. It's pretty nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 04:19:50 2015 No.12946848 >>12946593 The Japanese countryside is quite serene. On clear days I can see Mt. Fuji.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 04:20:28 2015 No.12946849 >>12946848 Did you just replied to yourself?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 04:22:59 2015 No.12946853 File: 2.57 MB, 264x240, 1408500606967.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12946849 There are two ESL in this thread. I'm OP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 04:45:27 2015 No.12946897 >>12946853 And both of these dudes are living near each other?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 04:52:00 2015 No.12946915 >>12946897 Living with each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 04:54:51 2015 No.12946929 >>12946897 >>12946915 >>12946897 yes. I can see the other ESL teacher through the shoji screen right now, as a matter of fact. oh he's waving back now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 05:07:49 2015 No.12946964 >>12946848 Nice. I haven't been to see Fuji yet, but the quiet mornings here are just amazing. >>12946897 >>12943107 >>12946593

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 05:54:49 2015 No.12947055 >>12943060 what grade do you teach and how do you deal with them?

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 06:28:34 2015 No.12947122

>>12947055
I teach junior high school, so grades 7, 8, and 9. There's not a lot to "deal with", I suppose. If they mess around in class, sometimes I'll mess around back or sometimes I'll ignore them. There's only really one student who says rude stuff to me, but he says rude stuff to everybody.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 06:30:05 2015 No.12947126 You need to be a native speaker? Or can you do it with enough certifications and some time living in an anglo country?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 06:32:27 2015 No.12947132 >>12947126 Not the OP, but I asked a friend who is thinking of doing this. For a large amount of positions, all they require is just a degree from an English-speaking country. Can OP confirm this? I'm fairly interested as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 06:37:12 2015 No.12947140 >>12947126 >>12947132 Also not OP, but you don't need to be a native English speaker, but if you're not you will likely need some sort of certification to prove your abilities.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 06:42:56 2015 No.12947151 I'm a teacher in Japan too. Sapporo. What a cookie?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:04:29 2015 No.12947207 english is one of these subjects no one really cares about in japan, they're on the same level as arts and sport

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:05:39 2015 No.12947212 >>12947207 It's actually one of the core subjects.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:11:10 2015 No.12947233 Are the japanese good students?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:11:11 2015 No.12947234 >>12943060 Is it possible to get in on this even if you're 30 and dropped out of college?

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:13:52 2015 No.12947244

>>12947233
The vast majority really aren't. They aren't particularly well-behaved, motivated, or at all encouraged to actually think for themselves.

>>12947234
Most legitimate companies require a bachelor's degree for the purposes of acquiring a work visa.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:16:31 2015 No.12947252 >>12947244 Son of a bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:28:50 2015 No.12947287 >>12947132 >the OP >the Stop doing this. >>12943060 OP, how old are you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:30:12 2015 No.12947290 >>12947287 >Stop doing this. OP isn't a fucking name.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:34:30 2015 No.12947304 I wish I could kill everyone posting in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:38:28 2015 No.12947317 >>12947304 You suicidal?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:39:14 2015 No.12947319 >>12947287 I'm >>12946354 , not OP, so I don't know if I count, but I started this job at age 23 and I'll be 28 this year. >>12947304 Why so hateful?

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:45:06 2015 No.12947337
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>>12947055
I teach elementary and JHS. I was a teacher in the States before Japan, so by comparison, there isn't much to deal with. Japanese children are much better behaved. My biggest issue with JHS is that they are far too hesitant at times. They fear being wrong more than they fear communicating.

As for ES, it's the opposite. The younger they get, the more enthusiastic they are (and the funner my lessons can be). The only thing I have to really deal with is... kancho...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:46:54 2015 No.12947346 >>12947337 >I was a teacher in the States before Japan, so by comparison, there isn't much to deal with. You're supposed to be an English teacher and yet you see no problem with this sentence?

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:47:00 2015 No.12947347
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>>12947126
>>12947132
OP here, clarifying that you don't technically need to be a native English speaker, but it is infinitely easier to get a job because then any degree will do. Nonnatives would probably need an English-specific degree.

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:50:04 2015 No.12947360
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>>12947207
They cared about it as much as you cared about mandatory Spanish class. Fortunately, the Minister of Education is pushing for a stronger English curriculum because of the 2020 Olympics.
>>12947233
Kids will be kids, but as I've mentioned, compared to U.S. kids they are far better disciplined.
>>12947234
As others have said, a degree is almost 100% required. The only exceptions being if you have TEFL and a considerable teaching background.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 07:51:59 2015 No.12947366 File: 109 KB, 480x600, Chat_TOE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12947287 23 years old. Just turned. >>12947346 The only issue I see is that "by comparison" wasn't a long enough prepositional phrase to warrant the comma.

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 08:00:25 2015 No.12947391

/int/ is really the place for this because most of us gaijin hang out there for conversation.

Anyways moving here was the best thing I could have done with where I was in life and I don't regret it for a second, but I can see how it's definitely a short term thing because this isn't a place to live for life. The business culture is awful and once you learn the language you'll realize the wall you'll run into as far as perma-foreigner status is concerned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 08:01:36 2015 No.12947398 >>12947337 >kancho This is probably the exact reason I don't want to teach elementary students.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 08:12:11 2015 No.12947432 >>12947366 >no comma after "so" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 08:19:41 2015 No.12947459 File: 48 KB, 395x248, engrish-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] celebrating the japanese education system

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 08:22:48 2015 No.12947465 >>12947432 In this instance, "so" is being used as a conjunction, scrub.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 08:23:09 2015 No.12947466 >>12947432 There's nothing wrong with what he wrote.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 08:30:45 2015 No.12947483 >>12947466 I bet you're one of those people who writes "should of" when it should be "should have"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 08:44:03 2015 No.12947507 >>12947483 Are you trying to nitpick about the end-of-sentence preposition or what?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 09:03:04 2015 No.12947537 IELTS. Worth anything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 09:04:42 2015 No.12947542 >>12945833 Mine are friendly but older than me and share no interests. It's a crushing kind of loneliness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 10:11:06 2015 No.12947683 File: 72 KB, 400x400, 1363036836335.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12947319 >Why so hateful? Because this thread is not otaku culture. Fuck off to /int/ retard.

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 10:19:10 2015 No.12947696

>>12947483
>>12947432
>Yesterday was her brother's birthday, so she took him out to dinner.
Is right.

>Yesterday was her brother's birthday, so, she took him out to dinner.
Is wrong.

>I was a teacher in the States before Japan, so by comparison, there isn't much to deal with.
Is right.

> I was a teacher in the States before Japan, so, by comparison, there isn't much to deal with.
Is wrong.

Are you Brazilian?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 10:52:04 2015 No.12947735 彼女いるの？

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 11:07:02 2015 No.12947762 How much Japanese pussy do you get? Do the nips fall for ur "ror u rook rike xxxxx west actor" beauty like I heard?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 11:21:51 2015 No.12947798 Do they speak english well? Would i have a hard time visiting Tokyo if i dont know japanese?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 11:26:17 2015 No.12947810 >>12947762 It's really easy if you're /fit/ on top of that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 11:39:37 2015 No.12947853 How easy would it be for someone coming from a non-english speaking country to find a job teaching English? Also, how did you manage to get a job before moving to Japan?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 18:08:25 2015 No.12948970 >>12943060 What were the requirements to get that job? Is there much competition for it? How long did it take to get the job? Are you graduated in college (if yes, did that effect them selecting you)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 18:32:42 2015 No.12949072 >>12943060 how long do you plan on staying?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 18:42:33 2015 No.12949109 >>12947735 結婚してるよ

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 18:47:02 2015 No.12949127

>>12947798
>Do they speak english well?
Most don't. They can spout out "This is a pen" and the "How are you? Fine, thank you. And you?" set as those are ingrained in their brains, but anything past that is broken, poorly-pronounced vocabulary.

>Would i have a hard time visiting Tokyo if i dont know japanese?
From what I hear, Tokyo is pretty tourist-friendly and millions of foreign tourists pass through there every year with seemingly little to no problems.

>>12947853
>How easy would it be for someone coming from a non-english speaking country to find a job teaching English?
You would need some kind of certification to prove your English abilities.
>how did you manage to get a job before moving to Japan?
I researched several companies that place ESL teachers/assistants in Japan, applied online, and had an interview in my home country. If you're not near an interview location, they may conduct a Skype or phone interview.

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 18:51:58 2015 No.12949159

>>12948970
>What were the requirements to get that job?
A bachelor's degree, native or near-native level English. and enthusiasm.
>Is there much competition for it?
Depends on the company. JET is very competitive, and ECC is very selective. Other companies are not so much.
>How long did it take to get the job?
I applied in summer, got confirmation of a job placement in November, and actually started working in March.
>Are you graduated in college (if yes, did that effect them selecting you)?
Yes. Again, most legitimate companies require at least a bachelor's degree for the purpose of obtaining a work visa. It doesn't matter what the degree is in, just that you have one. It makes the process of securing a visa for their employees much easier.

>>12949072
Forever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 19:02:20 2015 No.12949198 >>12949159 >forever are you gonna get good at Japanese and change jobs or are you cool with teaching english

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 19:06:05 2015 No.12949214

>>12949198
Planning on changing jobs, preferably something that I can do from home. Teaching English is alright, but there are no raises, no bonuses, next to no job security, and you never know if they'll move you to the other end of the region for the next school year.

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 19:08:34 2015 No.12949227

>>12949214
>but there are no raises, no bonuses, next to no job security, and you never know if they'll move you to the other end of the region for the next school year.
Is that just for teaching English? or do all Japanese teachers suffer from the same problems.

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 19:11:19 2015 No.12949235

>>12949227
Just for us lowly assistants. Although even full-time Japanese teachers hired by the prefecture can possibly be moved to any school within the prefecture when a new school year begins. The likelihood goes down with age and once you get married and have children, but it's still a possibility. Plus, the teachers don't know where they'll be the next school year until as late as two weeks before it actually starts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 19:17:23 2015 No.12949261 Other than taking the JLPT, and probably getting teaching experience of some kind, how does one into your life.

Anonymous Sat Jan 24 19:19:24 2015 No.12949274

>>12949261
You don't need any Japanese language ability to get the job (and I hear it's discouraged if you're going for JET). Teaching experience is a plus but not required. For requirements and a rough breakdown of the application process, see >>12949159 and >>12949127 .

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 24 19:23:57 2015 No.12949295 >>12949274 >Need a bachelor's degree, doesn't matter in what, just need one Well, shit. Thanks for the info though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 25 15:02:28 2015 No.12953638 How much does a JET teacher get payed in united states dollars?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 25 15:11:56 2015 No.12953669 >>12943060 Have you ever been kancho'd?

Anonymous Sun Jan 25 17:12:04 2015 No.12954062

>>12953638
JETs get, I think, around 3000 USD per month. Other companies typically give out a little less than that - about 2500 USD per month.

>>12953669
Thankfully, no. I've only ever visited elementary schools a handful of times, though. I hear folks who go there regularly get it a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 25 17:28:13 2015 No.12954153 Any advice for a Chinese-American intending on doing a year or two of JET?

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>>12954062
>>12953638

A little less now, actually. Somewhere around 2800 USD. Still the best salary you can get as an ALT without actually to a specific school board.

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:12:18 2015 No.12956447

>>12954153
Look up as much info online as possible. The competition for JET specifically has really risen these past few years. I hear it's important to really put your heart and soul into your essay, and to play up any teaching experience you may have - even if it's just private tutoring. If you don't have any teaching experience, try to get some because they probably won't hire you without it.

>>12956437
Thanks for the updated figure!

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:22:01 2015 No.12956480

>>12943060
I'm going to be starting a similar thing next month. Whats the deal with piracy in Japan? Every one of my Japanese friends wanks on and on about how I shouldn't pirate anything because I'll get some huge fine and get kicked out of the country. Do Japs actually crack down on this kind of thing? I highly doubt someone who downloads a few cds, movies and shows a year like me would get targeted.

If they do actually crack down, how do they do it? I don't really know much about computer related topics so I'm not sure how this anti-piracy stuff works. Do they attach some kind of tracker to popular torrents or something? Surely, if that were the case, I would be safe as long as I just downloaded from English language websites, or if I download media made outside of Japan like Korean movies etc.

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:25:14 2015 No.12956489

>>12956447
Teaching experience isn't a factor for JET. It's a cultural exchange program first, and a teaching job second (a far second, at that)

I think a lot of people who apply for JET are just losers and their attempts to rationalize why they didn't get in are the true source of most of these rumors about the application process.

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:27:50 2015 No.12956495

>>12956480
It's illegal and they've threatened some folks, but no one's actually been prosecuted for it. They mainly target folks who upload a lot of content via torrenting programs.

>>12956489
Just repeating what I've heard from people who have (successfully) gone through the JET process before and and later served on interview panels.

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:30:28 2015 No.12956503

>>12956495
It's illegal here too, it's just that here everyone does it. I've spoken to a lot of Japanese people and none of them seem to do it. They're all shit scared of being caught out, which gave me the impression that it might actually be a possibility in Japan.

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 04:35:07 2015 No.12956517

>>12956503
Japanese people just seem to have some moral aversion to pirating things in general. If you mention pirating anything, be it games, music, manga, etc. in the Japanese thread over in /int/, be prepared to get blown the fuck out by every Japanese poster in there.

I still download the occasional drama (via direct link downloads, not torrents) and I haven't gotten caught... I really am pretty sure they "go after" (as in "send angry letters to") the mass uploaders, not casual downloaders like you or myself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 06:02:58 2015 No.12956722 >>12956517 So all those Japanese peers that connect to my torrent client when grabbing stuff from Nyaa are all filthy gaijin living in Japan? Somehow i dont believe that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 06:14:02 2015 No.12956742 >>12956722 >in general

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 09:11:54 2015 No.12957208

do you teach at an actual school or a sort of cram school?

I'm studying in Japan right now and i'm going to try to return as an ALT after I graduate. After that I'm hoping I can get a job as an english teacher.

What are your credentials? I'm fluent in Japanese but haven't actually pursued any English degrees.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 09:30:39 2015 No.12957258 Kusothread#2

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:06:32 2015 No.12958832

>>12957208
I teach as an assistant in a public school. You don't need any degrees in English or education, just a bachelor's of any sort.

Personally, when I applied, I had a bachelor's in a largely unrelated field, teaching experience as a substitute teacher, and conversational Japanese (which they just count as a bonus).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:19:56 2015 No.12958885 about how much do you save by not living in tokyo?

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:25:25 2015 No.12958908

>>12958885
Well I can only speak for housing, but I currently live in 2LDK for around 60000 yen per month, and that's expensive around here. I hear in Tokyo, I could get an apartment that's about 1/3 the size of my current one and in worse shape for over 100,000 yen per month.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:29:29 2015 No.12958931 >>12958908 you still have many options for smaller and cheaper housing where you are? good access to kyoto and tokyo?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:30:40 2015 No.12958938 >>12958908 >but I currently live in 2LDK for around 60000 yen per month Is that with bills included?

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:36:29 2015 No.12958970

>>12958931
Definitely. My last apartment was an LDK and brand new (I was the first tenant) for 40000 yen per month. I live in rural Kyushu.

>>12958938
No, that's just rent. Gas and electricity varies depending on the season, but electricity is usually around 9000 and gas is 6000. Water usually stays right around 1000.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:40:36 2015 No.12958986 Would you be able to survive on your 'pre-Japan' diet? There are always places you can find western food? Is it possible to keep a diet avoiding meat?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 17:44:05 2015 No.12958997 have you ever put your hand down your pants during an earthquake?

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 18:04:50 2015 No.12959102

>>12958986
I wasn't able to, but I don't think I really had a "typical" western diet to begin with. What hit me hard was the lack of wheat or multigrain anything, and the lack of cheese. As for meat, you could probably do OK as long as you don't mind broths made from meat.

>>12958997
We haven't experienced anything past a 3 here, so that hasn't been necessary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 18:22:29 2015 No.12959182 >>12943060 Any greentext about funny/ weird stuff that happened with you?

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 18:23:56 2015 No.12959188

>>12947126
Guy studying Japanese studies in a non-English speaking country here.
I needed a degree proving my English abilities before enrolling at university, but a regular High School degree did the job, I only needed to have more than 50% of the points.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 18:25:31 2015 No.12959200 >>12959102 I see, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 18:33:28 2015 No.12959246 >>12943060 Can you just get a motorcycle license and buy one for traveling arround?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 18:51:12 2015 No.12959319 >>12943060 have you taught at least five different words for penis yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 19:02:07 2015 No.12959357 >>12959102 >lack of cheese That would hurt me the most I think.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 19:08:32 2015 No.12959374 How expensive are groceries compared to eating out? I already can cook a substantial amount of Japanese food.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 26 19:40:18 2015 No.12959513 >>12947391 >The business culture is awful and once you learn the language you'll realize the wall you'll run into as far as perma-foreigner status is concerned. expound a bit purease

Anonymous Mon Jan 26 21:34:48 2015 No.12960143

>>12947391
>>12959513
I can try and elaborate from a different perspective.

I'm a student at a university in Kansai, and from my experience what he's saying is "generally" true. I've taken classes on Japanese culture, where the professors try to prove that the Japanese aren't as "group-oriented" as they say, but they are.

As an exchange student at a school with around 100 foreigners from around the world, the "group" we have is mostly all of each other combined with the foreign language majors at our school. I don't associate with many of the foreigners, but a while back I would talk to a lot of english majors. Even then, I found out that the people within that group of foreign language majors will generally "exclude" (Not invite you to hang out with them, not actually think of you as their friend) you from their own events, and seldom show up if invited to yours. That doesn't mean that there aren't Japanese people that really do want to hang out with you, but I've found those are ones that don't really have groups of their own.

Another example, I like to play basketball, and I've played basketball with a guy on the basketball team that I've met in class. Japanese sports teams are the worst. They shit on anyone that's not on their team, and they're extremely condescending with their actions and sometimes words. You need to be on their team or they won't even consider you human.

Before you say it's because I'm an autist, I've actually learned a lot about how to Japanese people actually think from this, and as a result have managed to secure a lot of real friends that hang out a lot.

If you come to Japan, you will be popular because you are a foreigner, but from my and the people who have stayed here for over 4 year's experience, it's incredibly difficult to make them think of you as part of their society, but it's doable. In the end, you just need to find your own group of people who share the same interests, and who meet a lot (be it work, club activities).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 00:55:10 2015 No.12961093 >>12947366 What'd you turn into? Genuinely curious.

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Anonymous Tue Jan 27 02:20:13 2015 No.12961409

>>12959182
>go to train station in the morning
>arrive to see a bunch of police at the station
>wat, this place is as peaceful as all get-out, what in the world is happening
>suddenly all the police officers look toward the interior of the station and assume a stance that suggests they're ready for action
>I stay back and watch from a safe distance
>finally see some movement
>it's a goat

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 02:27:14 2015 No.12961435

>>12959246
I suppose you could. If you're only planning on being in Japan for a year or less, though, you could just get an IDP and not have to worry about getting ypur license in Japan (which I hear can be quite an ordeal).

>>12959319
No.

>>12959357
Yeah, they have a lot of generic "cheese", but if you want anything with a name, your options are very limited and expensive.

>>12959374
Cooking for two (including one who eats a LOT), I spend about 7000 yen per week maximum on groceries, though if I really wanted to pinch pennies I could do it for around 4000. Eating a meal together at a cheap family restaurant would cost the two of us about 1500.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 08:56:19 2015 No.12962349 File: 153 KB, 320x438, Nichijou_Kojiro_320_7798.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12961409 That... explains a lot.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:50:21 2015 No.12962462
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>>12947696
Hey, I'm Brazilian and I'd write it like the 4th example (not the 2nd), since "by comparison" is in between the connection of "so" and "there isn't". That's how it would structurally work in Portuguese.

Gotta re-read some comma rules for Eigo.

By the way, I scored 94% on TOEFL which was said to be above native level.
But I'm rather stiff with spoken language, I should probably play some online games with underage angry kids to get a bit of confidence.

How much of a hurdle is that, OP? My accent is somewhat strong, but I understand Japanese phonetics and understand how their Engrish pronunciation works, being easy to spot and correct these habits in students.

Is it a bonus that I also speak French, Spanish and Portuguese? I don't know, maybe some bossa nova otaku is into some bundaspeak.

Should these university degrees relate to teaching or linguistics? I'm just a random-ass Art bachelor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 09:57:25 2015 No.12962484 >>12962462 Ignore some repeated questions, I forgot to keep reading the thread after quoting anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:36:05 2015 No.12962581 >>12961435 >Yeah, they have a lot of generic "cheese" That's somewhat better. What do these generic "cheeses" resemble most? Speaking in terms of other cheese of course.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 10:45:07 2015 No.12962605

>>12943060
I was talking to a chap on /r9k/ about this and he said you earn about 250k yen/year, which is the equivalent to the British minimum wage. If you stay for more than a year you earn more? I'd love to do this but I couldn't justify taking such a sizeable hit to my income for more than a year or two tops.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 12:10:07 2015 No.12962849 >>12962605 You can't really compare Japan to Britain. 250k yen is actually an alright amount of money, just not for Britain, since that country is expensive as fuck.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:20:17 2015 No.12963989

>>12962581
Hmm, they're about as flavorless as a mild mozarella. I did see a quart-sized bag of shredded "gouda" (it's definitely not real gouda) the other day for 860 yen. If you want anything near real cheese, you have to pay for it - about 250 yen per 100 grams at my local grocery store. It's definitely a luxury here...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:21:36 2015 No.12963998 >>12962605 I don't know about JET or other companies, but my company does not give raises at all. Your salary is fixed to your job title.

Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:25:09 2015 No.12964015

>>12962849
>250k yen is actually an alright amount of money
250k yen is $2100 USD.
That's fucking pitiful for what is presumably a full-time job. If I was flipping burgers I'd still be making $14,000 before taxes. Don't forget that Japan's tax rate is usually some 20% higher than the USA's.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 17:36:30 2015 No.12964073 >>12962605 Just realized you wrote 250k yen per YEAR. It's actually 250k yen per month.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 27 19:43:25 2015 No.12964650 >>12962849 250k yen in bongland is enough for me to live comfortably and even indulge in luxuries. As a tenant though, I can forget getting my own place with that money for a long time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 13:43:57 2015 No.12967625 File: 1.16 MB, 480x357, 1422319734870.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] are they really that bad in english?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 17:09:30 2015 No.12968413 >>12967625 Yes. One of my students wrote to me that she went shopping and "buy cunt pencil". No idea where she was going with that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 17:15:29 2015 No.12968447 >>12968413 Maybe she's trying to hint to you to stick pencils up her cunt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 17:22:25 2015 No.12968486 >>12968447 She really wasn't. I spent a long time trying to figure out what she was trying to spell (that happens a lot; turns out about 1\3 of my students think "ghost" is spelled "gorst"), but to no avail.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 17:50:18 2015 No.12968583 File: 230 KB, 1463x1102, 1356478641222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12943060 You really like FFXII, don't you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 17:53:05 2015 No.12968600 File: 28 KB, 200x251, coachz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12968486 > turns out about 1\3 of my students think "ghost" is spelled "gorst"

Anonymous Wed Jan 28 17:56:37 2015 No.12968618

>>12943387

I spent a month in Japan, second time there, by myself, and all I knew then (and know now) is "excuse me" and "it's hot."

I had no problems, except for with the people who were staring at me all of the time. I'm a prep, no tattoos or piercings or weird hair, just your standard prep. Really got on my nerves and I was really fucking glad to get back to the international terminal at Narita. I even said "nani" ("what") to a few of them and they moved on to the next curio of the day.

The best cure for being weaboo is going to Japan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 17:58:30 2015 No.12968625 >>12968600 I have a few pen pals in Japan and get >VIA AIR MAIR all the time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:40:04 2015 No.12968801 >>12968413 Can't (couldn't) buy pencil? Though it's just as likely that she wants the D.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 18:41:34 2015 No.12968805 File: 48 KB, 848x480, [FuktLogik][Hidamari_Sketch][01][DVDRIP][x264][Vorbis] [8F413E14].mkv_snapshot_09.24_[2014.10.15_23.28.50].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12968413 Cute pencil?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 28 23:02:20 2015 No.12969835 >>12968801 Well she wouldn't be getting it from me. >>12968805 That might be it. A lot of students write that so-and-so is "so cut" and whatnot. No idea where she got the "n" from, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 01:11:18 2015 No.12970254 >>12943060 So did ya see any fat chicks?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 01:22:16 2015 No.12970287 >>12943060 Ryan... is that you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 02:14:33 2015 No.12970384 >>12970254 There are a few chubby folks here and there and only a handful of really fat people. Never seen anyone who is obese before, though.

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 03:27:18 2015 No.12970561

>>12943060
You mentioned food and rent was cheap, but conversely, isn't the cost of living in Japan supposed to be notoriously expensive?

What are the actual costs involved? Is your disposable income each month substantial in terms of what you can buy?

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 04:10:42 2015 No.12970665

>>12970561
Well most food is fairly cheap, but meat (especially pork and beef), many fruits, and dairy products are somewhat expensive, as are electronics.

A lot of your expenses, however will go to taxes or other fees collected by the government. Tolls on highways, residency tax (separate from homeowners tax), paying fees for your car every year depending on how new it is and how efficiently it runs, city-specific trash bags that you must purchase in stores that you use to put out your combustible garbage (or else it won't get collected), etc.

I make about 240000 yen per month, and with 17000 going to rent (split between two people plus assistance), about 21000 to utilities (it's higher in winter), and 28000 or so going to groceries, that leaves about 170000 or so to pay for health insurance and mess around with. I could live more meagerly if I wanted to, so it's definitely enough to splurge every once in a while.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 06:28:56 2015 No.12970901 >>12970665 Maybe Singapore is just expensive, but 17k + 21k for living expenses is really fucking cheap. I'm surprised

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 07:26:59 2015 No.12971011 >>12970665 >with 17000 going to rent (split between two people ｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ OP shares his apartment. Do you not have the choice of living by yourself?

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 07:37:01 2015 No.12971028

>>12970901
The residence tax hits kind of hard, especially since I wasn't used to paying it until I moved here. It's about 10000 yen per month.

But then again, I live in the middle of nowhere so I'm sure my expenses aren't as bad as more metropolitan areas.

>>12971011
I'm not OP, but yes. I lived by myself for a couple years but then I got married so we moved in together.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 08:28:10 2015 No.12971130 >>12968618 I completely agree. Nothing like seeing how apathetic a lot of them are to anime/game culture to make you realize you're just as much an outcast there as you are in the States.... And now I've made myself sad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 08:31:55 2015 No.12971137 >>12971130 Well, at least you can get your shit everywhere and don't have to order it around the world.

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 08:33:16 2015 No.12971142

>>12968583
Best FF, period. Prove me wrong.
>>12967625
You can probably research the state of Japan's English education. They drill the grammar rules ad naseum. But knowing grammar and speaking a language are completely different things, and most Japanese fail at the latter. Especially since most of them cease using the language after they graduate HS. I heard they are something like 29th in terms of English ability among the East Asian countries.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 09:17:55 2015 No.12971246 why do you think this is otaku culture

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 09:19:35 2015 No.12971248 >>12971246 OP probably saw /jp/ and thought "I know! This means Japan!".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 09:22:16 2015 No.12971253 Ask someone who is learning Japanese in Japan anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 09:26:49 2015 No.12971259 >>12971253 Are you Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 09:27:32 2015 No.12971260 >>12971259 No. But I'm Japanese at heart if that counts.

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 11:16:05 2015 No.12971529

>>12971253
I hope you're already into some acceptable level of oral communication.

How is it thinking "backwards" to form sentences? I mean, lots of phrasings require you to present subjects, particles and whatnot in different positions, taking a different route to express the same idea..

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 11:19:01 2015 No.12971533

>>12971529
>I hope you're already into some acceptable level of oral communication.

I'm getting there. My reading skills are probably better than my speaking though for obvious reasons.

>How is it thinking "backwards" to form sentences?

I don't really need to do that anymore, whenever I think about things in Japanese it comes pretty naturally at this point. Not as much as English (English isn't my native tongue either), but hopefully I'll get there eventually.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 11:41:02 2015 No.12971609 >>12971260 only if you were a tortoise in your previous life, anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 11:42:08 2015 No.12971611 >>12971529 Don't translate. You lose the second you think of complete sentences in terms of English to Japanese. Individual words are okay, but if you try to directly translate sentences you're going to fall flat on your face.

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 11:59:31 2015 No.12971682

>>12971611
Yeah I know that, it's just that you have to habituate yourself to a new "flowchart" when it comes to nesting/relating concepts.

For instance (I don't speak Japan, so this is just a fictitious example), if you want to say your pencil is broken, you would usually think of YOU, the PENCIL and the BREAKING of it.

123 - My pencil is broken.

Some languages might require you speak by default in the lines of "It has broken, the pencil of mine". (321)

I manage to do it in English after getting used to it, but it's a rather similar language in terms of structure to mine. From the little I've seen about Japanese, the stereotype of it being a "backwards" language is not farfetched.

>>12971533
Good to know, Anon. Keep it up!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 12:34:15 2015 No.12971787 >>12971682 >"It has broken, the pencil of mine". Gabranth, pls go

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 12:54:24 2015 No.12971840

>>12971142
>They drill the grammar rules ad naseum

That always made me wonder, do the teachers actually think that's a good way to teach a language, or is Japans educational system itself responsible for it? And on that account, if you're an English teacher from abroad, would you be able to actually teach communication, or would you have to do it the same way?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 13:12:38 2015 No.12971893 >>12947360 Kek. That fucking loli in the background.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 13:14:49 2015 No.12971904 So whats work like? Are the hours long? Is class difficult? Were you awkward when you first started or did you manage to just slide into the teaching role?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 13:41:09 2015 No.12972001 >>12971840 I'm not anyone in Japan, but I would make a karaoke weekly challenge. My students would have to sing a song in English picked by me and I would have to sing one in Japanese chosen by them. Minna would be so tanoshii.

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 17:25:00 2015 No.12972738

>>12971840
I'm pretty sure the teachers largely don't know how to teach it any other way. Some teachers get adventurous and try new methods, but because they're not used to it they often fall behind on the lessons and return to the old rote method to make up for lost time.

As ALTs, we don't really do any teaching. We may make games or other activities for practice sometimes, but most classes will only see the ALT once a week at most - sometimes it's only once a month - and with English class being held four times a week in JHS, you can't really be there often enough to really make much of a dent.

>>12971904
My hours are from 8 to 4 with the possibility of anywhere from 0 to 6 classes to visit in a day. My school is relatively small so I have a lot of down time.

The classes aren't too difficult, but I can see a marked difference between this year's students and the students I had when I first got here 4 years ago. Both their behavior and English abilities have gotten quite bad. I miss that gym teacher that would put them in their places...

I definitely had no idea what I was doing at first: used far too advanced English fo them, made activities that ended up being too complicated, etc. But I got used to it within a few months.

There's a lot to take in both in terms of the education system and culture, but it's pretty exciting. I managed to really get along with one of the math teachers at my school (who was initially terrified of me because he thought he'd have to speak English to me), and now we joke around in the teachers' room all the time.

>>12972001
That would be fun, but you are severely overestimating the English ability of the average Japanese student.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 17:48:25 2015 No.12972819 fuck off

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 18:02:02 2015 No.12972874 >>12972819 Rude.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 18:16:44 2015 No.12972914 What's the best internet for someone out in the sticks? Starting in Ibaraki in March and I'm trying to get as much prepared in advance as I can...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 20:38:39 2015 No.12973384 >>12943060 /b/

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 20:44:53 2015 No.12973411

>>12971840
Teachers teach that way because they're teaching for tests. Not to the extent that America is notorious for, but still. Entrance exams are a big deal. It's also partly because Japan is an island, and they're very exclusionary; there's little reason to actually speak English, compared to say, learning Spanish in America.

>>12971904
At eikaiwa I usually spend around 10-11 hours at work each day, teaching 6-8 classes with no free time. If you like the job it isn't bad, but most can't handle that. JET/ALT is far easier, most end up just being puppets for the teacher.

My biggest struggle is adjusting my language to be age appropriate for different levels. Some kids can't speak about the past or future so I can only talk about things in the present, etc.

>>12972914
Ibaraki's great. Just go to your local Bic Camera and you'll get a lot of great deals.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 21:00:39 2015 No.12973462 >>12973411 >10-11 hours at work each day, teaching 6-8 classes with no free time. You're one hardworking guy. I dont think I'd be able to do that forever. A year, maybe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 21:11:41 2015 No.12973509 >>12973462 That's a funny way of saying 'being taken advantage of'.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 21:13:07 2015 No.12973517 >>12973509 Well, he seems okay with working those kind of hours. Maybe he considers that kind of non-life to be worth it to live in Japan.

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 21:30:06 2015 No.12973584

>>12973517
>>12973462
I enjoy the work so it doesn't feel like a job, just another part of life. Love the students since it's more intimate than classroom teaching. Definitely not something I could do long term, but the pay I get compared to ALTs is a bonus.

Only thing I really loathe is working on Saturdays, so I miss a lot of the trips other gaijins in the area go on. Then again, I get to drink every night because I don't have to go to work until noon each day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 21:49:17 2015 No.12973661 >>12973584 so do you actually plan on staying long term, or for only another year or so?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 21:51:44 2015 No.12973667 >>12973584 >Love the students When you say "love the students"... What kind of love are we talking about?

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 22:01:08 2015 No.12973704

>>12973584
So you are there until 10 or 11 at night? What goes on after school's out?

Also what exactly do you do (or are you allowed to do) during downtime when there's no classes? I can't wrap my head around being required to be somewhere for that long and just sitting there doing nothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 22:01:11 2015 No.12973705 File: 216 KB, 800x1155, knj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12973667 >What kind of love are we talking about?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 23:00:08 2015 No.12973911 >>12973704 Not him, but I prepare materials for class, check homework, and study Japanese between classes.

Anonymous Thu Jan 29 23:39:58 2015 No.12974042

tl;dr hafu gaijin fears of living on Japan

This thread increased my curiosity about living in Japan.
I'm a electronic engineering student and I live in Brazil.
My dad is japanese but my mother is italian (I was born in Brazil).
As I'm a filthy pleb, I dropped japanese studies when I was 6 years old (I was learning english too), now I'm studying again and I just got N5.
I do have japanese citizenship and as Brazil is really too awful for me (I'm not into political issues its just about my personality) so I can't think anything else than living in Japan after graduating. I also have TOEFL (plus a couple of years of english course).

The thing is... I'm not japanese at all. I'm just descendant or "hafu" as they name it. I heard that they really despise Brazilians and also there's a lot of racism toward "hafus". I really think that Japan is where my dreams belong but I'm really afraid of never becoming part of it. I'm too wrong by thinking that way?

>>12962462
>bundaspeak

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 23:53:23 2015 No.12974094 >>12973705 Wait, those two actually had sex?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 29 23:56:32 2015 No.12974114 >>12974042 Stop being a pussy, you'll be fine Just visit the place first and then make your judgement about Japan

Anonymous Fri Jan 30 01:22:48 2015 No.12974490

>>12973661
Maybe a few more months, depends on how my current relationship works out.

>>12973704
Usually 10, 11 if I'm teaching 38-40 classes a week and don't have time to lesson plan during the day. I used to have to make an insane amount of props, but now I have enough to recycle that I can get out by 9:30.

Lots of cleaning or lesson planning otherwise though. Also handing out fliers at the station, or posting (putting advertisements in mail boxes). And cleaning. Lots of cleaning. Public schools make students clean, but at eikaiwa we take care of ourselves. Janitorial duties are the responsibility of the workers in Japan.

ALTs get to actually be bored, read books, or sneak playing games. Maybe hang out with students or do club activities. I'm jealous of that, but not the constant traveling.

Anonymous Fri Jan 30 01:24:44 2015 No.12974496

>>12974042
The Brazilian population here is large. They wouldn't mind, they can hardly tell us foreigners apart at all.

Study engineering and try to get jobs around the world for a few months at a time. You'll probably be stationed in Ibaraki/Fukushima a few times, see how you like it while learning enough Japanese to actually enter a local workforce.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 30 01:26:14 2015 No.12974503 >>12974094 That is not what's happening in that scene. They do, but only at the close of the series, which takes place after a time skip.

Anonymous Fri Jan 30 01:37:32 2015 No.12974544

>>12974042
>I heard that they really despise Brazilians
wut

>and also there's a lot of racism toward "hafus"
the fuuck. Maybe I'm just being a clueless rustic nip man but I've never heard my fellow nip men or the media shitting on either of them. Hell, if anything hafus were treated like god sent in my school days.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 30 01:51:30 2015 No.12974594 >>12943060 はァ？どこ中よ？いてもうたるで

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 30 01:54:20 2015 No.12974602 >>12974042 here Thanks for the answers! I reposted my question at >>>/int/36851764 >>12974544 As I said in the other post. I heard it a couple of times but never from japanese people though. >>12974496 That's a good advice, thank you!

Anonymous Fri Jan 30 03:39:27 2015 No.12974861

>>12943060
While teaching English abroad is common, do you know anything about other career choices in Japan? I'm food science and hoping to get an internship or something abroad in Japan. Japanese candies and other food items are really fascinating on a chemical level.

In other words, do you know anyone foreign to Japan working there and what do they do?

Anonymous Fri Jan 30 04:02:22 2015 No.12974921

>>12974861
Honestly, the only non-ESL foreigners I've seen in Japan have been doing menial labor - waiting tables, cooking ramen, etc. But then again, you don't really see behind-the-scenes folks like food scientists very often, so there may be some foreign workers here.

Anonymous Fri Jan 30 10:43:50 2015 No.12975872
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>>12974042
Quoted Brazilian here.

You shouldn't listen to Brazilians and westerners in general, you're falling to the same old "japan is weeeird XD" kind of talk there.

They will be curious about you, of course, that's all. Everyone I know who's been there, be it halfu or totally non-asian, went by just fine.
Here, watch this (no need to know japanese to feel entertained):
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1rwrh9_ブラジル_travel

You are probably thinking about those gaijin districts where there is a lot of low class foreigner workers shitting over the country's customs. These are somewhat like cucarachas in the USA, but as long as you don't go full retard, you won't be taken as one of them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 30 13:37:13 2015 No.12976253 >>12973462 You realize that Highschool students have to spend just as much time at school as well?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 30 17:59:15 2015 No.12976985 File: 70 KB, 512x512, ech_002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12974861 Mary ? (marie)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 30 18:09:19 2015 No.12977031 >>12945318 Woah I had no idea this existed. That's what I get for not going on /fa/ for a few months.

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