/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Do you enjoy otaku culture with friends or is it your solitary hobby?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't even enjoy it by myself. Then again I don't enjoy anything really.

[Anonymous No.]

One internet friend only.

[Anonymous No.]

Most of my friends seem to be more into the fandoms than the original material, so I find it hard to relate. I like watching cartoons, not talking about how the cartoons are all gay for each other.

[Anonymous No.]

Mostly enjoy it myself but my few friends do like to draw, play mmos, and watch a bit of plebish anime. I've recommended a couple things and they liked them.

[Anonymous No.]

My normalfag friends are okay with it. But they're gamers knowledgeable about the internet culture anyway, so they probably aren't so fazed by much.

So it's mostly just joking and teasing, in the good-willed fashion. Honestly if they couldn't deal with it, I wouldn't call them my friends.

Would be lovely to have someone to actually really get into and discuss some of this shit, though.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't have any real life friends but I have a few internet friends who are into the same things as me.

[Anonymous No.]

I only really talk about it to my only real life friend, and I try my best to not talk about it too much since he never got into it and it's pretty obvious that he doesn't care for it. I have an online friend who I used to talk about anime and shit to, but he's gotten into western comics and is too busy with college and hanging out with his real life friends to talk to me now. He never got into anything /jp/ related either so that didn't really help.

[Anonymous No.]

Friends?

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>>12873169
Discuss what? What t2h2 would u fug?

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>>12873396
I know. I'm surprised at the amount of normies we have here.

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>>12873416
>Otaku culture
This isn't wiz chan.

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>>12873416
Normie isn't a binary thing, you can't determine that someone is a normalfag because he has friends. It sure puts him towards the normie side, but there are other factors. Even then, if one's friends aren't normalfags, I'm not sure it makes him more a normie.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the boundary between being a normie and not being one?

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>>12873491
Normie pls

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>>1287349
That's some tumblr shit.

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>>12873501
Real life personal social interaction.
Have any? A Normie-kun is you

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>>12873505
Just an example but think of any doujin circle. Are they friends, does this make them normies?

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>>12873512
They are coworkers.

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>>12873070
Whoa, what the fuck is that Yeezy?

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>>12873501
It's more of a spectrum.
The most normal while not being normie would be someone like Yozo from Ningen Shikaku.

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>>12873070
I'm looking for a friend who share my same interest.
Too bad is hard to find one in my country.

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>>12873521
Can't a nigga just live his life in the kawaiiest way possible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPZDBF0kei0

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>>12873566
What country are you from?

[Anonymous No.]

I used to have one friend I used chill out with but then they started acting like they were too good for that shit...

[Anonymous No.]

I lived with a /jp/sie for six months and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. He never paid for food, paid rent the first month then never again, left dishes and garbage literally everywhere and did nothing but sit around all day watching anime and playing VNs. He also stole a couple of my games when he moved out.

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>>12873566
What interests? Funposting?

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>>12873968
Sounds exactly how I picture every anon at /jp/ and /a/

[Anonymous No.]

Every now and then I'll rope my brother into watching some anime with me but that's it.

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>>12873981
He also had a pretty bad heroin addiction which explains the no money/no job thing, but I didn't know about that part until after he moved in

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>>12874795
that was me. was it really all that bad why you gotta put me out there like that....

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>>12874879
You didn't pay your rent or food you fucking scum. Who do you think I am making a NEET like you live, your mom?

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>>12874795
Should have evicted him after the first missed rent dude.

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>>12873784
is loli mainstream now

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Yeah I do. Every time a new anime season starts we'll all get together and watch the first episode of everything, just sampling series and usually only continuing about 1 or 2 on our own afterwards.
Sometimes when a bunch of people are over I'll hook my laptop to the big screen and start reading moege and attempt to do a live translation for them. I know that sounds weird, but its fun.

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>>12874888
Not me but thanks for sticking up for me by proxy anon>>12874888

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>>12873170
i have neither

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>>12874906
Loli was always mainstream. Game and anime localization companies are just retarded.

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>>12875190
Actually scratch the anime part. Plenty of loli anime get localized.

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>>12873070
Only with 3 internet friends

My normalfag friends doesn't know about my real hobbies

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My sister and dad find it repulsive.
My mom is kind of supportive. She said my figures and pillows and stuffed things were cute. She also seems to not mind the hentai books I have.

[proREMIRIAt Elite Force Comman(...) !rSDMROXTB. No.]

I used to have, but since a few years ago I have achieved hermitdom.
But its ok to discuss stuff with anons.

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Most of the people I see in real life are into shit like Naruto or One Piece or DBZ. Most of the time if I mention Eva, they say "That's the worst shit ever, stopped watching when Shinji Masturbated on Asuka", every time I mention Bebop, they go "It's alright" and then go on to talk about how Sword Art Online is good.

It really sucks when you're the only one who likes Japan for what it is...

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>>12875217

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>>12875249
>SAO

Every fucking time

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>>12875249
>It really sucks when you're the only one who likes Japan for what it is...

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>>12875249
But Eva is the most overrated thing ever, sorry to bully.

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>>12875212
my moms cool with my 3 loli onaholes she even bought lube and toy cleaner that wer'nt comatable but its the thought that counts

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I do with my closest friend, he started only really like dragon ball z and stuff but now he actively enjoys good shit & we watch seasonal stuff all the time. Fall 2014 we kept up with 9 shows together (but i'll probably never be able to convince him to get into moe stuff, which i'm okay with)

Other than that & some internet people, no. Nobody even knows.

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>>12875249
they tell me that my anime is shit. i like nichijou, watamote, asumangadaioh sometimes yuru yuri and lucky star
although i can understand lucky star being called shit for over hype
but everyone i know that watch anime (which are all cambodians) only watch dragon ball, that one giant zombie thing oh its attack on titan, one peace, and sao

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to start a course at a community college this year and I want to make some friends, any tips?

When I went to university I couldn't make any friends, got depressed and dropped out. Not just because I couldn't make friends though. Lots of reasons, you know.

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>>12875396
>i like nichijou, watamote, asumangadaioh sometimes yuru yuri and lucky star
Your taste in Japanese animation isn't very good.

[Anonymous No.]

normalfag containment thread

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>>12875273
I never got the appeal of SAO, I don't really know if it's bad or good, most people on the internet says it's bad, but for some reason everyone in real life says it's good or something like that.

But then again it's the same with Naruto, so I guess everyone in real life is an idiot... oh wait, I know everyone in real life is an idiot.

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>>12875411
That's the whole board now, bro where you been?

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>>12875409
i thought so but idk i like commedys only it took me 6 months to finnish watamote though

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>>12875415
SAO is shit, i cant say it because i watched it,
But i don't know, personally i don't think everyone are a bunch of idiots

I barely talk to people so i can't say it for sure

[Anonymous No.]

As someone that actually watched SAO, I liked the first four or five episodes or so but the rest was shit. But it got quite a lot of doujinshi so you could watch it because of that.

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>>12875396
Nichijou is funny as hell.

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>>12875539
do you remember that part when that one girl with the glasses was standing on the desk

[Anonymous No.]

solitary. All my IRL friends hate anime and refuse to watch any of it or do anything related with me.

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>>12875249
At least One Piece is pretty good if you read the manga or only watch the early anime, it's just got shitters flocking in lately because toonami randomly starting it halfway through

Hardly anyone is really into it compared to the shit popular shonen since it's been butchered by localization almost its entire life and the few who are are just shitters into Marineford or the modern anime

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>>12873070
Just with my cousin. Does that make me a normie?

[Anonymous No.]

I didnt know /jp/ still liked anime.
I stopped watching that shit years ago.

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>>12876248
>/jp/
You could have at least saged this /a/ shit, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12876318
>saged
What?

[Anonymous No.]

I bet /jp/ has some great high school/college anime club stories

[Anonymous No.]

>>12875249
>every time I mention Bebop, they go "It's alright"
At least they got this part right.

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>>12873070
Every hobby for me is a solitary hobby. I prefer to keep it that way because I don't like talking about any of it much. Maybe some day I will have a friend to share it with comfortably.

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>>12875869
I bet they essentially feel the same way about you.

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>>12873968
>stole a couple of my games when he moved out.

so.. on top of being terrible and getting a free ride, he made you his bitch when he left?

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>>12873416
Holy shit are we becoming Wizards!

[Anonymous No.]

I have a bunch sort of otaku friends but only one of them who appreciates the 2hu and browses /jp/

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>>12875345
Does she also warm it up for you before you use it and clean the mess up if you fall asleep after masturbating?

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>>12873396
>Friends?
what is that?

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>>12873784
The lolies feel so out of place..

[Anonymous No.]

I secretly enjoy it myself. My family doesn't give a shit. Other than my family, none of my friends or coworker has any clue about my power level.

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>>12873501
Its very subjective.

In general, "normality" is a relative scale of the amount and diversity of the general populace with whom you regularly and willingly interact, compared to the other members of your community. The more in-sync one is with the majority, the more of a "normie" they must be.

For people who tend to be spiteful, its usually any degree of sociability which is markedly greater than their own, because it ends up being a loaded pejorative which implies that your sociability makes you less of a true member of your hobbies.

Of course, it is perfectly possible to be abnormal and be popular, or to be creative and original while possessing a "normalized" mindset. However, I feel that the people who actually care most about normies getting into communities are the people who alienate or have been alienated from others, and hate the idea of these people having equal or greater footing in their escapist niches.

To paraphrase Nietzsche, fervent obsession is the only strength of the weak, and the weak, whether self-imposed or externally forced into that position, tend to despise and depreciate those who do not possess a similar single-mindedness. They look at others in the community solely in the context of the community, and consider the multifaceted endeavors and hobbies of a person to be a weakness in devotion.

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>>12875067
Same for me, except that they get excited at a eroge icon, they launch the game and then close it after loading a save when they realize it's all in japanese.

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>>12875415
People love it because the pace is nice and makes them want to watch the next episode.
People hate it because they realize the plot/characters are shit when they finish it.

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>>12878719
Mind giving an explanation for your graph? It doesn't seem to say anything except "there are all kinds of people except those with a large number of diversified friends".

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>>12878719
This is an interesting read, is it an original you just wrote up or a copypasta including the graph?


And to respond with a few comments:

I'm zero on the graph so it’s not hard to conceive the vast majority of people relative to myself to be "normie".

Having said that this has nothing to do with mine or anyone else's hobby / community and as such is the case regardless of whatever hobby / community I so recreate in.

To be brutally honest I am a 'failure" and there are many times I do wish / strive to be a "normie. Simple as that.


However as you indicated these are escapist niches and part of the attraction / appeal, for lack of better wording, is that they are not mainstream / normie material for one reason or other e.g. being mainly alienation from the mean.

In general it is human nature to want to belong and communities help to facilitate that.

So naturally people flock to other people of similar quality and characteristics e.g. being others with “low social connectivity” and reject those who are vastly different e.g. normies.

TLDR we all want to fit in in one way or other

[Anonymous No.]

How does one find internet friends?

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>>12879007
You're posting in a thread full of them.

[Anonymous No.]

I have internet friends, used to scoff at the idea but it actually is nice to have people to talk to about things off 4chan

>>12879007
I just kinda picked them up over time

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>>12878968
I just wrote it up myself.

I think you are very much correct in that people mainly want to fit-in with similarly minded people, but the Internet makes this hard.

Outside of social media, you form an image of a person based on a relatively small amount of comments and statements, with varying levels of refinement, surrounded by a context which is largely unknown to you, the reader.

In order to achieve the illusion of understanding of that person in this situation, that person's statements must conform to a very large assumption on your part, or you must be prepared to have that assumption broken time and time again, at a much slower pace than one expects in real life social interaction.

In large communities where individualism is either discouraged or ignored, you have a large number of people making heavy assumptions about large groups of users based on whatever objective and undeniable information they can gather.

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>>12879016

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>>12879007
Random chance and through mutual internet friends. I made most of mine(all online) from games and chatrooms. If you can meet one who likes one thing you like, and they know other people, you can go through the string of vaguely attached friendships to other people until you find others you like, using the common friend as a base.

[Anonymous No.]

Friends? Ain't nobody got time for that.

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>>12879119
(cont)

Now I am going to pull out some actual scientific, university level material: A study done 1-2 years ago on social networks in 4chan (save it if you can, its behind a paywall by default):

http://a.pomf.se/mwzuao.pdf

The image is from an evaluation of the networks, based on a user poll advertised in the purchasable ad spots on the sites, with many people taking it. The color spheres represent a high concentration of similar browsing patterns. The independent nodes gravitate towards the groups to which they are most similar.

/a/, /jp/, /c/, /u/, and /e/ tend to attract similar minded people, as do /v/, /co/, /tg/, /y/, and /d/. To be fair, these are only a tendency, and in the latter, /y/ and /d/ are outliers.

The most interesting bit, however, are the two clusters between the /a/ group and the /v/ group. One is more attracted to /a/ and its related boards, one is more attracted to /v/ and its related boards, but both sit on the fence. This is to say, there are definitely crossposters, with varying levels of precedence to their "home" boards. The data does not appear discriminate between posters and lurkers, so I have no comment on that.

On 4chan, there is a bit of culture angst between animu and vidya, and the devotion of the average poster to maintaining and enhancing these cultures. As we have been talking about, these cultures seem to exist primarily to provide unity and a set of assumptions in an anonymous community with no established pecking order.

That is to say, if you don't fit the mold, your opinion is disregarded, because trying to untangle the assumptions on both sides and reach a consensus is either impossible or just not worth anyone's time.

Its a convenient sanity check that is effective on an anonymous imageboard. Its also elegant in that it ties in directly with humanity's need to form a common bond, so it grows organically and collectively, and is always up-to-date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12879007
You go on irc and hang out with them, that's how I met a good looking trap, problem is, friendship won't last for long because everyone becomes a memespewing idiot eventually

Still feel lonely as shit

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>>12879190
What's wrong with memes? This is a meme board.

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>>12879190
irc?

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>>12879200
It's sort of old technology where you throw words and letters at other people over the internet

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>>12879186
(cont)

Simply by knowing the lingo, one can use certain language which charges his or her message with an inherited context. By having a sane set of assumptions, people can achieve a deeper level of conversation without having to worry about clearing up messy preconceptions, enhancing conversation.

In its lack, you get comments which irritate, confuse, or simply bore large chunks of the posters and lurkers, otherwise known as shitposting.

So, there is a justification for people disliking crossposters, as their supposed lack of attention to a particular hivemind can dilute post quality, and pave the way for greater dilution in the future.

But, what does one do when the crossposter can talk the talk about all of the little subtleties of /a/ or /jp/?

You make the culture more all-encompassing.

Now, instead of just being well-watched/read, knowledgeable about new releases of VNs, or watching the genre-defining anime, you are supposed to watch the shows of the season, have an opinion on the common issues of translations, know which media is the best quality and which mediums are best for releases. Some even try for poltical ideology and social status, such as having an opinion on Japanese poltics or living the NEET life.

By making the board culture a lifestyle (which I think the best examples are /r9k/, /g/, /k/, /n/), you pick out those who may potentially diverge from your opinion in a possibly incorrigible manner, making your browsing and posting more homogeneous and welcoming to yourself and those with whom you find the most entertainment and agreement.

So yeah, being a normie is just another label people use to ignore divergent opinions, for the myriad of reasons they may find these opinions unfavorable. Not saying its bad, just how it is.

[Anonymous No.]

slowly drifting apart from otaku culture, after 7 years everything just feels formulaic and empty as HELL, more of a chore than a hobby

last good VN I read that I really enjoyed was subahibi

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>>12879248
why are you posting on /jp/ then

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>>12879186
So basically we have otakus in green, gamer kids + gay neckbeards in white, fujoshis in yellow, retards in pink, shitposters in blue, nerds in purple, and perfect normie guys in orange?

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>>12879264
Mostly out of habit. Rarely a day passes without taking a peak at one of my regular boards. You spergs has always been there for me too, so eroge and the like will always hold a special place in my heart, even if I don't consume it as much as I used to.

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>>12878332
Same here. The only person I barely talk about otaku related things is my brother. And even then I don't like to discuss games or series in depth with him because he has shit taste. It's not as severe as to like SAO, but it's still bothers me.

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>>12879230
What's your academic background? If it doesn't bother you to tell.

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>>12873784
>All those "pedophilia" comments.

[Anonymous No.]

I talk to my Reimu nendoroid plushie from time to time.

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>>12879285

Green: Groups dominated by /a/ ideology
Hardcore: /jp/
>The Animu
>Otaku Interests, anime neckbeards

White: Groups dominated by /v/ ideology
Hardcore: /tg/, /toy/, /vg/
>The Vidya
>Vidya neckbeards, Western culture and fandom, Western drawn pornography

Blue: Groups dominated by /pol/ and /sp/ ideology
Hardcore: /s4s/
>The Anonymous
>Political and intragroup wankery, eccentrism/extremism

Purple: Groups dominated by /fit/ and /mu/ ideology
Hardcore: /lit/, /sci/
>The Renaissance Toddler
>Adoration and Discussion of Humanities, Sciences, Physical Fitness, "Cultured" Media, etc.

Orange: Groups dominated by /g/ and /k/ ideology
Hardcore: /diy/, /out/
>The Hands-on Hobbyist
>Deals with the crafts, the trades, and the tools to do them.

Pink: Dominated by /b/ ideology
Hardcore: /gif/
>The Consumers
>Absorb content, modify content, regurgitate content. Ad infinitum.

Yellow: Dominated by None
Hardcore: None
>The Unique and Universals
>All boards which appeal to more than one of the above groups, or possess a general appeal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12878719
Please respond >>12878890
This graph feels like it's describing the whole population as being in uniform proportions of every kind of individual.
Example: if I have only 1 friend, it is only normal that I don't have diversified friends, since I only have 1. So it's normal that there is a greater concentration of people in the bottom-left corner and that it gets spread the more you go toward the top-right corner.

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>>12879358
History, though I also take a good deal of engineering and science classes because I hope to discover a passion in something where the job market is more advantageous.

I will admit I am envious of STEM majors, since I only tend to excel, yet alone maintain competency, in the humanities and Liberal Arts.

Such is life.

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>>12879413
>Such is life.
Whoa, mind blown.

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>>12879413
I guess it makes sense. I myself am getting into STEM this year leaving NEETdom although I've always been keen to humanities. And I don't really feel confident.

Still you seem to be fairly knowledgeable, a lot more than most people I met on the internet and in person. I hope everything turns out well for you.

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>>12879402
To be completely honest, I was using it as a visual aid to an idea, and I uploaded it thinking the graph represented a complete idea. I could go into more detail, but I would have to sit and think on it.

In short, it does not intentionally help my post, and you can disregard it as incomplete or false.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12873070
I do have friends but i ignore their messages / invitations because i'm a autist who likes to be left alone. As far as otaku culture goes? They haven't the slightest clue although they know I watch anime

[Anonymous No.]

>>12879503
>I do have friends but i ignore their messages / invitations because i'm a autist who likes to be left alone
How do you keep friends?

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>>12879480
Alright, thanks for answering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12879359
>All those "go back to 4chan" comments

What board are they talking about?

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>>12879512
/b/ I am guessing.

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>>12879509
Totally fucking beyond me. I think they talk shit about me when I'm not there, like I'm pretty damn certain they think I'm a loser / virgin.

I just see them during uni for classes, assignments etc . Holidays / Weekends are mine and mine alone

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>>12879532
Sounds more like acquaintances / associates or people who are only friends because of situational convenience

But what do I know

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>>12879230
>>12879186

That really written summary. I'm inclined to agree and is why I love anonymous communities.

I take you derived it from the 150/200 page university thesis you posted?

So what's the story behind this university thesis? How long / how did the anon go about completing this piece? How was it received academically?

I dropped out of a degree in social science, I don't think I could write a thesis this detailed and with such complex quantitiative research let alone present it to a pair of senior academic doctors no matter how immersed I was in the topic.

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>>12879512
/mu/, probably.
The video was pretty big there when it was first released.

>>12873784
Honda is best girl.

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>>12880669
I did not derive it from the university thesis, I used the thesis to add some validity to my statement, which without would just be invalidated pondering.

As far as the thesis is concerned, the author advertised a poll in the 4chan ads, which I took, and I also took part in a text interview with him about my posting habits. He usually did interviews on Skype IIRC, which make up most of those transcripts in the thesis. When he finished the thesis, I then asked for a copy, which he then emailed to me.

I don't know how it was received or anything of that sort, as I did not ask.

Also, I would not shoot yourself down, because this is apparently a culmination of a Master's degree, which is much more in depth and exacting than a Bachelor's degree.

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>>12875249
>stopped watching when Shinji Masturbated on Asuka

But that happens in the End of Evangelion, which means they practically watched the whole thing.

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>>12882158
You're not the brightest fellow, are you?

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>>12882158
Or they're those people who only watched End of Evangelion and think "Okay, that was a mindfuck, forget the rest of the series"

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>>12879007
>>>/soc/ ?
I remember regular otaku meetup threads.

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>>12882614
I'd like to join one of those infamous and wicked parties you refer to as /jp/ meetups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12882614
>>12882762
>I'd like to join one of those infamous and wicked parties you refer to as /jp/ meetups.

What are they like? What happens?

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>>12879007
>>12882762
>I'd like to join one of those infamous and wicked parties you refer to as /jp/ meetups.
Start new otaku/weaboo thread
post cross link
......
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Profit!

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>>12879549

Nah, i've known one of them for like 7 years kek.

He hasn't even met my parents or anything, just school back then, and now uni and the odd drink every now and then

[Anonymous No.]

I knew that /jp/ have some genial minds but to this extend? I feel so stupid after this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

No friends dude, you're on jp

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>>12882614
>>12882762
>>12882793
>>12882795
Also:
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=577592 old too spammed
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=776286 new but small

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883154
You're not the only one, my friend. Luckily this will reawaken my thirst for knowledge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883217
mfw a gaypeesee is near me

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>>12883404
>mfw a gaypeesee is near me
It isn't good? Do you not want be fucked have friends?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883590
>Do you not want to be have friends?
Ano...

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>>12883607
Sorry too much verb/wrong word I need sleep...

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>>12883620
Eto...

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>>12883667
D-do you want something with me, j-just sleep or something else?

[Anonymous No.]

I try to as I think quite a lot of anime (Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell:SAC, Psycho Pass, Evangelion, Ghibli etc etc) is far superior to anything produced by western media, but most people can't really look past the fact it's a cartoon.

Most people also won't listen to Japanese music I post because it's not in English (even though Gangnam style is massively popular)

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>>12878719
>However, I feel that the people who actually care most about normies getting into communities are the people who alienate or have been alienated from others, and hate the idea of these people having equal or greater footing in their escapist niches.

This explains the mindset of /v/, /r9k/ perfectly. spited by women in real life (real or imagined), escape into video games/communities and then become insanely spiteful to women when they try to join in on the fun.
The level of hating women on /v/ is just beyond absurd though.

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>>12883217
Looks like the new one is also spammed. Also the people on this map don't look like /jp/ posters.

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>>12883217
There's a /jp/ user named suzi almost dangerously close near me...

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883723
>(Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell:SAC, Psycho Pass, Evangelion, Ghibli etc etc) is far superior to anything produced by western media

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883735

You know, many of the Western folks online look at VNs, doujinshi, and anime and call it inane escapism, but at the same time critically acclaim games like HALO and the GTA series, Valve's gaming titles, and RPGs/JRPGs, which are also escapist works which happen to be a little more polished and developed.

We already have finely crafted, detailed, escapist works in the West, its just that the Western companies do not produce works for the relatively niche tastes of /jp/, and the West has never really formed a doujin scene which allows for these niches to be filled. Our Pixiv is the largely watered-down DeviantArt. Our Niconico is the popularity-centric and base Youtube. Our Comiket is the corporate-backed Comic-Con.

In the West, max profitability determines the existence of works more definitely than in East Asia, and without alternatives, we depend on large manufacturers for our media, outside of the indie developers artists.

So, when women enter the market, with equally acceptable wallets, the format of games will change to appeal to women, and video game makers will end up changing the male-oriented culture of their titles (misguided or otherwise), or attempt to otherwise change the development of their games in response.

If /v/ does not want something, it is games which are casualized or appeal to anyone outside of themselves. So they resist such a movement with the greatest passive-aggressiveness they can muster. Its not like they can shop around much, apart from the underdeveloped indie scene.

Its similar to /a/ and fujoshi, but fujoshi are not nearly as proactive in campaigning for change for their mediums, and already participate and compose niches in the various Otaku communities. It is often complained about, but at the end of the day, there is plenty of material for fujoshi and non-fujoshi alike, so it is rarely a huge controversy outside of Free!. This is not the scenario in the West.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883723
Everyone listen to what i'm about to say.

This is the what an actual weeaboo looks like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883848
>Our Pixiv is the largely watered-down DeviantArt.

What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883735
Women have done nothing but ruin men dominated hobbies, the outrages are justified, hell i'm surprised they haven't ruined anime yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883857
The net effect that women have had on any of my hobbies is collectively zero except in as so far as they help produce it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883869
Yeah and were talking about western dominated hobbies here, not doujins or other eastern dominated hobbies.

I'm curious of what hobbies you're referring to though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883894
It's almost all Eastern shit, but as for the stuff that's not, I've yet to see them have any non-trivial effect on competitive multiplayer gaming or trading card games. Because women don't give a shit about either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883854
>>12883827
Please show me Disney shit that is better than Ghibli films.

Please show me US TV shows better than SAC, Eva and stuff like that?

Pretty much the entirety of western TV is absolute pleb shit. You never find the creativity or originality in western TV that you find in anime.

Not saying that the majority of anime isn't shit as well, but the best of anime easily beats out the best of western television and Ghibli easily kicks the fucking teeth in of any western animated movie studio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883723
As much as I like those animes, I wouldn't go as broad as to say they're superior to "anything produced by western media". Don't get me wrong, I'm a big evafag but I wouldn't say it's the best thing ever

I'll give eastern animation credit that they more likely tend to tell more mature and serious stories than western animation, mostly to the point where they resemble Live action Hollywood movies and TV dramas aimed at older audiences, but still, there are Western animated gems like Secret of NIMH and great shows like Twin Peaks (I know it's not animated, but you did say "anything produced by western media", and it is produced by western media) that I sorta enjoy a little bit more, but then again I don't really care what country my media came from, as long as I like it and it's good. I'd be willing to watch a good anime as much as I'd be willing to watch a good western cartoon or TV show or movie. Still though, I love the shit out of Japanese video games and touhou.

Sorry if this sounds like salad speech, but I'm tired as shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883932
You just moved the goalposts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12883955
Now he has a new argument, so just deal with it