Rhythm Games Thread: Sunday Edition

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Rhythm Games Thread: Sunday Edition Anonymous Sat Jan 3 20:47:11 2015 No.12869753 [Reply] [Original]

Previous Thread: >>12826051

In about an hour or so I'll open up an o!m /jp/ room.
Discuss various rhythm games and please keep the shitposting to a minimum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 20:53:10 2015 No.12869766 why are sdvx2 15s so hard

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 20:54:37 2015 No.12869774 I wish DDR wasn't so dead

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 21:14:20 2015 No.12869842 >>12869753 reminder that random is cheating

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 21:20:09 2015 No.12869864 >>12869774 >I wish DDR wasn't so dead

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 21:21:03 2015 No.12869868 Pump 2015 just came to my local arcade. Songs are pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 21:57:08 2015 No.12870015 File: 338 KB, 400x347, 1418508801787.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] mania room up, try to keep the songs /jp/ related room: /jp/ pass: rage someone please join ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 22:07:12 2015 No.12870048 File: 189 KB, 644x559, 098123897123768.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12870015 w-worth a try

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 22:09:50 2015 No.12870057 >>12870048 sorry anon, I would but I don't have the game to join with you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 23:25:59 2015 No.12870323 >>12870015 what is this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 3 23:59:44 2015 No.12870457 >>12870323 op's trying to find everybody that plays osu and feed their info to the janitor!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 01:50:18 2015 No.12870864 File: 93 KB, 960x540, Cindy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Almost done...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 01:52:48 2015 No.12870881 File: 172 KB, 960x540, Cindy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Almost done.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 01:54:36 2015 No.12870889 >>12870881 Tell me if this works Because I could do a lot better job of a 3D model than a drawing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 01:57:52 2015 No.12870903 What does sows have to offer more than psun?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 01:58:48 2015 No.12870906 >>12870903 Sows gets you the ac rips and has more forum stuff about them, psun is just the network to play them on.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 02:13:00 2015 No.12870952 >>12870881 i did a hasty sketch and got in, you'll probably end up getting like 25gb in addition to an invite, wow. nice work!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 04:39:48 2015 No.12871362 DDR 2013 omnimix when?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 08:19:15 2015 No.12871830 >>12871362 Never because it is not possible

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 18:20:07 2015 No.12873884 got my first A on IIDX today! feels good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 19:08:48 2015 No.12874075 >>12869864 Yeah that's what I said. Did you have trouble reading it or something?

Anonymous Sun Jan 4 19:53:49 2015 No.12874212

Why the fuck are old IIDX tracks so fucking hard compared to the newer? I thought I was able to play 7s because I play most of the 7s of IIDX 17 to 20, with a few 8s along the way, but when I play random 7s I get stupidly rekt by older shit. I usually get Bs and sometimes As on newer tracks, but sometimes by playing random I got D

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 20:21:12 2015 No.12874338 >>12874212 The max difficulty level was changed several times through the series, maybe they weren't updated to reflect this change?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 20:22:29 2015 No.12874348 >>12874338 I'm pretty sure they are because if you go back to older sets you can find songs above 7. I think the older styles of charting were just generally harder to play

Anonymous Sun Jan 4 20:40:55 2015 No.12874422

>>12874212
I'm a 4kyu pleb, but I went and FC'd all the level 1 and 2 songs on omnimix. Songs from 1st through 3rd style were by far the hardest. Lots of fucking stupid scratches, offbeat shit, and tapping 1 key to a rhythm when you can barely hear the keysound. The worst of it all is that most of the really hard songs sound like shit.

Knicklicht !!LctUzCisxlJ Sun Jan 4 20:48:13 2015 No.12874450 [DELETED]

>>12874348
If you're playing Omnimix, you'll inevitably have a few pre-RED songs on there that were removed before their difficulty rating could get adapted to the new 8+ or the current 12 system.
The omnimix makers don't change any ratings, so you're inevitably going to find some level 8 from 3rd style or something that was removed 5 styles later and still bears the initial rating intended to mean "hard as balls". I forget which one it was, but there's an 8 in the earlier styles that's pretty much a 11 by today's standards.

Anonymous Sun Jan 4 20:49:47 2015 No.12874458

>>12874348

If you're playing Omnimix, you'll inevitably have a few pre-RED songs on there that were removed before their difficulty rating could get adapted to the new 8+ or the current 12 system.
The omnimix makers don't change any ratings, so you're inevitably going to find some level 8 from 3rd style or something that was removed 5 styles later and still bears the initial rating intended to mean "hard as balls". I forget which one it was, but there's an 8 in the earlier styles that's pretty much a 11 by today's standards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 21:00:33 2015 No.12874500 Speaking of removed songs, what's everyone's favorite song that was removed? Hard mode: no revivals. Nightmare mode: Konami original songs only.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 21:07:22 2015 No.12874524 >>12874500 miru key way

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 21:28:33 2015 No.12874595 >>12873884 How can you be proud of that? I mean I got my first A after like 2 hours of gameplay. (Granted it was on a Lv.3 beginner (V on IIDX 10th CS))

Anonymous Sun Jan 4 21:35:51 2015 No.12874630

>>12874458
Omnimix copies the difficulties from Textage. Textage gives their own difficulties to pre RED songs that don't have a 1-12 difficulty.

I've played nearly every chart in the game and there's definitely no 8 that's as hard as an 11. The textage ratings are generally pretty accurate (aside from a few early DP charts)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 21:37:06 2015 No.12874638 >>12874595 It took me a while to get my first A too, but that's mostly probably because I never really paid attention to timing or score and just focused on progressing through harder and harder songs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 21:56:24 2015 No.12874688 >>12874595 i had lots of issues with lag starting out, and that A was me finally having fixed all of them. that's why it was notable, using a USKOC and any LCD takes a lot of tweaking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 22:04:34 2015 No.12874716 >>12874500 thanks for giving me an excuse to once again say rip rising in the sun

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 22:12:54 2015 No.12874735 >>12874630 Oh yeah, you're right. I thought I'd remember ryuuou mentioning not wanting to tinker with any of the ratings, but I guess he did.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 4 23:39:00 2015 No.12875047 >>12873884 Nice. Congrats. >>12874595 Chill out Tatsujin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 00:01:24 2015 No.12875162 Last thread I asked what everyone's favorite bemani song is, now this time lets get favorite BMS songs from everyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 00:04:01 2015 No.12875176 >>12875162 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZCZh6ut8mg It is kinda close because this and joint struggle for nostalgic reasons but i have to go with angel layer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 00:06:20 2015 No.12875191 >>12875162 not sure what really counts as BMS music but I keep LR2 around for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A56TMaLZ6mM

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 00:20:39 2015 No.12875252 >>12875162 anything by roop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JGvqt21aY0

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 00:25:23 2015 No.12875275 >>12875162 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRgUMR4PnoM

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 01:33:50 2015 No.12875687

sorry to possibly derail talk of BMS charts but I was hoping to get a few pointers from people who play iidx on level 10+, also im leaving for a bit but ill check on the thread in the morning.

So i got my fp7 about a week ago and I had been using the keyboard layout of [shift]ZSXDCFV up until then to play. I got comfortable with 9s and easier 10s like that but my accuracy was absolute shit. Now after the week of playing im up to 7 and 8s comfortably(A/AA) and can pass most 9s but i cant do 10s for the life of me.

So for those of you who can play AC well at high levels, how do you play? Ive seen a lot of videos where people play 1048 style but i gave it a shot and felt like my thumb and index finger couldnt move fast enough together to make it work and scratches were awkward af trying to spread out my pinkie and index finger between disc and 3. I found a youtuber named DARQs and I now imitate his playstyle which is essentially using left thumb over 1 and 3 and right on 3 and 5 so you switch between them for the 3 key. I dont have an issue switching the thumb im using for that key, but when patters where 1 3 5 7 are in a line and you need to hit them quickly, you cant really move your thumb from 1 to 3 or 3 to 5 quickly enough to maintain perfect timing comfortably. I also found myself using my left thumb to hit 1 and 3 at the same time during things like scratch+1+3+5 which just feels uncomfortable and wrong. same thing happens when 1 and 3 are really close together but youre using the other thumb and its too quick to move your finger across both. Theres quite a few gaps he doesnt explain in his style, so what do you guys do?

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 01:39:53 2015 No.12875712

i don't know shit about bms because i'm a noob but i seem to remember hella years ago (when i was into minamotoya) hearing/reading that minamotoya did some bms stuff? and that probably would have been it if i was still playing
hopefully i'm not hallucinating that

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 01:55:18 2015 No.12875774

>>12875687
Only a level 8 pleb here, but I follow DARQ's video as well. I usually twist my right hand bringing my ring finger down to the 5 key and leaving my thumbs on 1 and 3. This should make it pretty easy to do anything that alternates between all white notes and all blue notes as well, if a LOT less comfortable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 02:13:31 2015 No.12875823 >>12875162 Anything by LeaF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHaKYBBtuUg

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 03:13:06 2015 No.12875975

>>12875687
I'm up into the 12.9s and use 1048 style, and use thumb and index on 1 and 2 during scratchy stuff and move my right thumb to 3 a lot. I'm hitting the limits of my ability with this playstyle though, because anything heavy on 3 (especially with scratches) just wrecks me. I plan to move my left thumb to 3, bridge 1+3 with thumb, and switch my right ring to pinky so i can 6/7 trill without wearing out my hand as fast. I also prefer downscratching and usually start sections that way, which a lot of people tell me is weird.

Back when I was playing through all the 10s and starting to move into the 11s i used my old KOC style with left hand ring+middle+index, and it was terrible. I don't recommend it, especially on AC distance.

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 03:16:10 2015 No.12875990

apologies in advance for my drunk fucking noob rambling

>>12875687
>1048 style but i gave it a shot and felt like my thumb and index finger couldnt move fast enough together to make it work and scratches were awkward
1048 takes a very long time to feel decent on the muscles! i still don't like it! (though i'm still mid 10s (progressing consistently))
>I found a youtuber named DARQs and I now imitate his playstyle which is essentially using left thumb over 1 and 3 and right on 3 and 5 so you switch between them for the 3 key.
so, this is exactly what i did in the 7s. (except that's not how darqs plays, he plays symmetric)
i decided that 1048 felt like garbage and that i'd rather gouge my eyes out than put my left pinky on the bass key (symmetric)(1p side) while taka.s (what you just described) felt good and is kinda how people scratch in general so i'll do that

but i almost immediately discovered that it's really hard to process unfamiliarly dense stuff without a dedicated 3 key finger and when i started trying to break into the 8s i found myself rotating into 1048 for 16th streams and more dense stuff (esp. w/ 1+3 chords)
and when i first started playing 9s (and 10s) i used 1048 (with liberal wrist scratching) almost exclusively, but as i get more comfortable with the speed/density i start rotating between 1048 and taka.s more and more, because i generally scratch and time better that way (with a couple notable exceptions)

>using my left thumb to hit 1 and 3 at the same time during things like scratch+1+3+5 which just feels uncomfortable and wrong.
for a while i was just flat out wrist scratching that stuff because like you say 1,3 left thumb feels real weird but taka.s very much seems comfortable doing that. i've also seen him rotate his right hand in like what the fuck is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0uGrdFWzzc&t=120
more recently i've started to find hitting 3+5 with my right thumb more natural

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 03:56:45 2015 No.12876076

>>12875687
I'm just getting to 10's and I play pseudo one hand(left thumb on 1 sometimes reaching 2 or 3 if needed but I usualy one hand 2-6). Also, don't worry about pressing two buttons with one finger, I do that all the time.

I'm progressing quite slowly though, not sure if it's me or my style.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 04:19:44 2015 No.12876124 >>12874500 The Another is an easy as hell 7 but I love "Beautiful Day" by Fantastic Plastic Machine. From IIDX 6th Style.

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 04:20:09 2015 No.12876127

Anyone right-handed feel like their left hand is stronger and more dextrous? Right now I'm playing 1P because that was a more natural transition from my keyboard layout, but I'm kind of wondering if I'm wasting my left hand like that. Then again, I notice that in high level play, players like DOLCE. are comfortable putting 4 keys on their scratch hand at times.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 04:38:08 2015 No.12876148 >>12876127 you can try 2p for a week or two and see if it feels more natural for keys. It'll be hard as shit for scratching though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 06:37:21 2015 No.12876315 >>12874500 Garden of Love. I kind of wish there was more Hip Hop in IIDX. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2US94Facvk

>>	Corin !Cock.CjNxw Mon Jan 5 07:47:05 2015 No.12876454 >>12870889 It will work. As long as it's OC and not something you spend a second on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 09:33:46 2015 No.12876622 >>12875162 I don't

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 09:35:02 2015 No.12876625 >>12875162 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJYPahRUqis Couldn't find the proper BMS video, so here's the song.

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 11:35:54 2015 No.12876875

>All this talk about finger placement
I don't even use my thumbs and barely my pinkies except for scratch, I just move around my fingerrs everywhere like crazy. Maybe I should learn to play properly because I can't get past 7s, but my thumbs just don't feel natural

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 13:16:24 2015 No.12877138 >>12876875 you won't get far without thumbs they're really worth incorporating into your playstyle

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 16:40:23 2015 No.12877984

>>12875687
2p, left hand Rea style (static), free right.

At this point basically do whatever works. As your progress, finesse and fast reading will do the magic. Look at any high level players and notice their hand movements. It's very refined and smooth even if they do crazy or dumb shit. It takes lots of practice to get there, but if you can get there, it doesn't matter how you play.

Switching thumbs, keep at it. It might seem slow at first, but like with everything, it gets better.
1 3 5 7...haha just hit them without using thumbs. People stay way too rigid once they've learnt to use thumbs.

If you're struggling, play with green number. There's some weird taboo about increasing it to 300+.

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 16:50:03 2015 No.12878030

>>12876127
Right-handed, but chose to go 2p right from the start. Seemed strange not to use my dominant hand for scratching.
Covering 4 keys with scratch hand isn't much of a problem this way. It's usually pointless, but it looks Dolce-ish, so it has to be good, right?
As for more dexterous left hand, maybe. It just seems more suited for the task overall and same goes for the right hand. Try it out and see for yourself. Good luck!

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 17:25:34 2015 No.12878151

I just want to get into sows to read their forums and get access to all the info about Daos and stuff, I don't even care about the data because LR2 with bms rips is a lot easier for me anyways.

Does the cindy fan art thing actually work or is that just a big ruse?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 17:38:23 2015 No.12878193 >>12878151 Worked for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 17:48:53 2015 No.12878234 >>12878151 Is it true that they have DAO drivers on sows? If it is, that do they actually do better than the windows default drivers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 17:57:43 2015 No.12878265 >>12878234 they mostly change how the turntable reacts, i think the default is 40degrees/sec is the minimum for it to trigger whereas the custom firmwares can reduce it to 25

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 18:03:15 2015 No.12878279 >>12878265 Sound nice, is there any way to get these outside of sows? I don't really give a shit enough about isos or whatever to make an effort to enter the secret club

Anonymous Mon Jan 5 18:08:32 2015 No.12878290

>>12878279
the download links are hosted on dao's website but it has a tendency to brick controllers, plus i can't be bothered relaying all the installation instructions
you could probably get the information by emailing dao, though it'll likely be properly released in the near future

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 18:10:35 2015 No.12878296 >>12878290 All right, thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 19:25:48 2015 No.12878490 >>12878265 If that's the case then I really do need to get in, the turntable not registering slow movement is really irritating. I guess I'll start that cindy model now because I can't draw for shit

>>	skub Mon Jan 5 21:08:54 2015 No.12878809 too lazy to remember a trip trying to find nudes of cute guys whose tumblr pages i get linked to lmaooo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 21:09:43 2015 No.12878811 >>12878809 ok?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 21:22:20 2015 No.12878846 >>12878809 kek, good luck skub.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 21:25:18 2015 No.12878858 >>12878809 how does this post contribute to the thread in any way?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 21:44:10 2015 No.12878918 >>12878858 cute guys, that's how.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 5 21:44:25 2015 No.12878920 >>12878858 You are obviously unaware of this particular faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 01:43:55 2015 No.12879635 >>12878490 You could probably ask Dao as suggested if your cindy project doesn´t work out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 01:46:01 2015 No.12879642 Are the turbo chargers worth ordering over the dao simple editions? I've been looking at getting a sdvx controller cuz playing with an upside down koc and 2 mice is kinda awkward

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 01:57:38 2015 No.12879679 File: 32 KB, 318x389, 1416893513229.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] snow goose is a fun song and I am happy I found it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 02:57:32 2015 No.12879861 >>12879679 snow goose was my first fc!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 04:18:49 2015 No.12880082 >song you like is too easy on one difficulty, but too hard on the next god I hate this so much

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 04:43:02 2015 No.12880114 >>12880082 it never ends

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 04:48:35 2015 No.12880123 >>12880114 It ends once you progress enough to play it on the harder difficulty and then it feels so good that it was worth the pain of not playing it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 05:00:25 2015 No.12880143 >>12880123 but then more songs meet the original criteria and then as you get better, everything becomes too easy to want to play

Anonymous Tue Jan 6 06:29:32 2015 No.12880311

>>12879642

Virgoo's Turbocharger has:

>better stock buttons (dao's are prone to sticking)
>better stock knobs
>removable cable
>rounded corners and overall higher build quality and improved aesthetics.
>only costs a little bit more

Get the turbocharger Anon, its the clear winner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 10:18:24 2015 No.12880692 >>12878151 If it were a ruse, at least one disgruntled person would have popped up complaining about how it doesn't work. I've never seen one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 12:24:00 2015 No.12881014 >>12880082 >songs you like are all 2 levels below your level fuck SDVX

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 13:33:02 2015 No.12881167 what weights do you guys play on 40g dao spring 100g omrons here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 13:39:05 2015 No.12881190 >>12881167 100g switch, 60g spring.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 14:01:45 2015 No.12881257 >>12881167 100g springs, 50g switches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 15:16:35 2015 No.12881501 What g springs do Daos with the sanwa option come with by default? I got 50g omrons but no idea what springs are. Also what is the best place to order springs from for US?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 15:25:32 2015 No.12881545 >>12881501 I'd assume 100, but you can test it very easily. Get something that weighs 150 grams, and put it on a button.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 15:27:28 2015 No.12881550 >>12881501 Sanwa IIDX keys have 100g springs by default

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 16:30:16 2015 No.12881709 >>12881501 100g springs if you bought sanwa keys 40g springs if you bought dao keys

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 17:34:30 2015 No.12881959 >>12881501 order springs through sanwadenshi storefront on rakuten (they have a machine translated english site). Shipping runs about $10-12 minimum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 17:43:48 2015 No.12881991 >>12881167 40g springs and 50g omrons, but I'm planning on buying a set of sanwas that come with 100g springs

Anonymous Tue Jan 6 18:40:56 2015 No.12882189

There was a discussion about hands placement yesterday, I realised I didn't even use my thumbs (~7 player, pretty new) and I thought I should use them. Now I did, and I realise there's something that may even be more important that is rarely discussed: At home, how do you actually play your controller? I have my DAO on a keyboard tray, with an office chair that I raise to max height. I (kinda) sit my arms on the armrests, and sit to a distance where the tip of my knees are aligned with the white keys. I realised now that playing with my thumbs, my fingers get cramped and this isn't optimal at all. So how do good players actually play at home?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 19:03:21 2015 No.12882252 >>12882189 replicate the arcade setup and play standing up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 19:03:27 2015 No.12882253 >>12882189 I put my FPS on my lap and lower my chair until it's sitting parallel to the floor. It's not perfect, but it works. I'm thinking about investing in some kind of stand or low sitting table.

Anonymous Tue Jan 6 19:15:25 2015 No.12882291

>>12882252
That's kind of impossible playing on my PC screen..If I play standing up,my screen will end up being way too low for my eyes

>>12882253
I might look into buying something like that, sounds like a good idea. Playing on my lap also seems more comfortable than keyboard tray, but the fucking armrests prevent me of doing it properly (either side has to be resting on it and the controller ends up inclined)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 19:33:39 2015 No.12882346 Speaking of stands to play on does anyone have a link for some good stands that would fit a djdao pop'n controller? Right now I play on a shitty casio keyboard stand but it's wobbly as all hell

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 19:34:28 2015 No.12882349 >lower my chair until it's sitting parallel to the floor. ???

Anonymous Tue Jan 6 19:35:41 2015 No.12882355

>>12882349
So my knees are parallel to the floor, thus making the controller parallel to the floor. My armrests don't go very high so when I'm normally sitting at my desk I need to raise the chair a little higher than usual so my arms rest at keyboard height.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 19:52:58 2015 No.12882443 >>12882252 I would love to do this but at that point I'd need to set up a dedicated cab because my monitor is far too low if I stand at my desk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 20:17:26 2015 No.12882512 >>12882443 honestly the problem is probably more that your desk is too low but yeah

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 20:24:08 2015 No.12882525 >>12882512 No, my buttons are about an inch under arcade standard if I just place my dao on my desk. The problem is that my monitor is way below face level if I'm standing unless I had it attached to the wall or stood it up on something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 22:05:43 2015 No.12882823 >>12882189 >>12882291 standing up is the best way to play I have a bunch of boxes that I stack my monitor on top of when I play. Brings it up to eye level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 6 22:13:53 2015 No.12882847 >>12882823 I have on of those desks with shelves on top. I have about 12inches of space I could elevate my monitor, and I still would have some wood in my field of view while playing. I'm literally fucked

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 04:15:05 2015 No.12883973 >According to his comments in Atröpøs, beatmania IIDX is what inspired sasakure.UK to become a musician. >make better music than the entirety of IIDX Neat.

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:18:44 2015 No.12884150

>>12882189
I've tried both standing and sitting. Currently sitting on the floor. For me the most important thing is definitely the distance. You need to have some free space to move your hands around.
As for the position, I don't sit on the key side. It's just in the middle and key side is slightly rotated outwards.
This is the usual position, but at times I just kneel down or half sit and be in whatever position. Doesn't matter much.

It's awkward to place all your fingers on the buttons using thumbs. Just place your thumbs and keep fingers straight. Your fingers will relax as you get more used to it, but don't sit too close to the controller unless you're wrist scratching or using any fixed playstyle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:33:21 2015 No.12884171 >>12883973 any sample of what he have done? I tried google, but it didn't gave me anything interesting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 06:34:15 2015 No.12884176 >>12880082 >s!ck at 5 >anisakis at 6 >beach side bunny at 7 >s!ck at 8 still need to check out what's in 9

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 07:05:33 2015 No.12884237 >>12884171 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK8lA4T6PMk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5EFQLWCJeI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84IiTEDGzSg >>12880082 >Funny shuffle at 3, 6, 11!!1ELEVEN >any of the fucking pyramid songs wwwww

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 12:00:40 2015 No.12884881 I'm pretty new to Tricoro, why do I keep seeing people with H-Clear status in the leaderboards? I couldn't find an hard mode option, there only seems to be an easy mode when I press the start buttons to view options

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 12:36:15 2015 No.12884981 >>12884881 While holding start, hit VEFX for advanced options. While in the advanced menu, hit the EFFECT button for UI and timing adjustment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 12:39:07 2015 No.12884994 >>12884981 Wow, that's some pretty hidden functions. Thanks a lot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 16:44:01 2015 No.12885710 File: 1.05 MB, 1260x1680, DSC_0039-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12882189 replicating ac height (88cm at key base) and standing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 17:41:24 2015 No.12885940 >>12885710 love that monitor!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 18:49:08 2015 No.12886132 >>12885940 i like it too, but the small vertical height makes looking down at the lanes to play a bit of a pain at 6'2" i'm looking for a good HD CRT to build a custom cab for the moment

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 19:58:42 2015 No.12886304 >>12885710 are you sure 88cm is ac height? i've never felt like it was that low when playing at ac

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 20:02:22 2015 No.12886315 How durable are daos? I had a rare manchild moment and punched my keys moderately hard, I'm pretty sure it's fine but I still worry

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 20:06:33 2015 No.12886330 why are ddr and guitarfreaks easier to read with the notes going up

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 20:07:15 2015 No.12886333 >>12886330 because it's what you're used to

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 20:09:00 2015 No.12886337 >>12886315 As long as everything still moves up and down, I doubt you've caused any damage. Worst case, you have to replace some microswitches that are maybe a dollar each.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 20:11:44 2015 No.12886345 Playing standing up is harder when you're short

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 20:27:54 2015 No.12886391 >>12886337 About that, where does one find omron microswitches? I made the mistake of getting the default honeywell from DAO, I want to change evantually but they are overpriced on DAO's site and I don't know where to buy (Canada)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 20:32:58 2015 No.12886404 >>12886391 I'm from QC,Canada. I bought mine on Mouser.com Shipping is a bit expensive, but all in all, way better prices compared to Gamo2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 20:51:58 2015 No.12886458 >>12886404 Hum, these are the same omron 50g sold on dao's website http://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Omron-Electronics/D2MV-01-1C3/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs8I5ltipPMABFrs0L0%252bpNK And they are only a dollar cheaper...Is that what you bought?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 21:00:19 2015 No.12886485 Just buy switches off Sanwa's rakuten. Here is a link to one: http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/sanwadenshi/item/ilumb_223/?s-id=borderless_browsehist_en

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 21:06:56 2015 No.12886505 >>12886485 switches are easy to find from local electronics suppliers, no point in using an international shop for that

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 21:10:38 2015 No.12886513 >>12886505 But will I be able to find Omron 50gs at my local electronic store? I can't just buy any microswitch that fits, might as well keep the honeys.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 21:14:24 2015 No.12886523 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phYwnwHyGKU Why is this so catchy. It's stuck in my head all day erryday

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 21:14:52 2015 No.12886527 >>12886513 the ones from mouser are fine i suppose it would have been more correct to say electronics wholesaler as opposed to supplier

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 21:15:51 2015 No.12886532 >>12886513 Maybe, depends on how good it is. But the switches are available from many online US based distributors (Mouser, Digikey, Newark, etc)

Anonymous Wed Jan 7 21:16:42 2015 No.12886538

>>12886505
You can, yes, but local electronic shops aren't guaranteed to stock the 50g omrons people may be looking for. The ones on mouser are ~$5 more than on rakuten, that times 6 6 for SDVX or 7 for IIDX will be less than shipping from rakuten if you order just switches

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 21:34:58 2015 No.12886607 >>12886538 that's true, hadn't noticed the price difference

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 22:10:15 2015 No.12886729 >>12886538 I don't think shipping a set of switches from Rakuten will be more than $30-$35. If it's any lower than that, you'll pay less ordering from Rakuten. And that math is also assuming Mouser has free shipping which I'm sure it doesn't

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 7 22:19:31 2015 No.12886761 >>12886729 My wording in that post was crap but yes, that is what I meant to say.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 00:50:02 2015 No.12887251 Went on trip to LA for business, decided to go to r1 and play on a cabinet for the first time. Ended up meeting DJ PHN!X and seeing him get rank 1 on a song. Pretty fun trip, wish there were cabinets where I live though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 04:21:09 2015 No.12887600 did Super Arcade find a new place yet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 16:59:00 2015 No.12889079 I'm going to be playing on an actual cab for the first time today. What game mode should I select for just playing a set of songs on a paid machine?

Anonymous Thu Jan 8 17:08:53 2015 No.12889105

>>12889079
Step up mode if you want guaranteed 3 stages.

If you can clear level 7s, play standard mode and play a 7 or higher as your final stage to get your extra stage. Assists and easy gauge also allows you to unlock the extra stages only the level matters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 17:08:54 2015 No.12889106 >>12889079 Standard is what most people go for, though others do step up (or Dan, rarely see people in free). Your main difference is going to be picking charts you can definitely pass the first 3 stages and doing whatever in extra stage

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 17:23:08 2015 No.12889144 >>12889106 >>12889105 Hokay. So if I pick free, I'm guaranteed two songs and I can access any difficulty, but there's no extra? And then with standard I get a full set but I have to pass everything?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 17:24:00 2015 No.12889149 >>12889144 Yes Don't pick free, waste of money.

Anonymous Thu Jan 8 17:25:32 2015 No.12889154

>>12889149
That seems kind of shitty because I tend to have the most fun playing the songs I can't consistently pass, but I guess I'll get more mileage if I just pick 7s I can clear and save the hard ones for the extra where it doesn't matter instead of just playing free.

Thank you though

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 00:02:03 2015 No.12890358 File: 250 KB, 1097x1029, oKoK5Ps.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is Ollie so perfect?

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 00:04:56 2015 No.12890372

Alright guys ,

Got everything working on SDVX , I just need to connect to this custom server.

Can anybody give me a straight answer on where to start with this? also , I see people on youtube using offline guest mode ,How the hell do I make that work?!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 00:23:58 2015 No.12890437 >>12890372 p r o g r a m m e d s u n sick bait

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 00:38:05 2015 No.12890469 >>12890372 >trying to use offline for what purpose?, don't be a causal and try to get it online, if not, why don't you try to use the simulator?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 01:06:09 2015 No.12890539 >>12890469 >if not, why don't you try to use the simulator? Scoreboards are far from the only advantage of running AC.

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 03:29:20 2015 No.12890774

>>12889154
Was fun, I think I may have to invest in sanwas after that. They're so clicky and nice, playing on my dao keys feels squishy and awful now in comparison.

They also had a beatmania III cab which is something I thought I'd never see, so that was pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 07:38:41 2015 No.12891274 >>12890774 if your keys feel squishy it might just be weak springs/microswitches

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 16:14:10 2015 No.12892414 >>12890774 BMIII needs some sort of playable home version/emulation so fucking bad :/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 17:09:58 2015 No.12892555 File: 236 KB, 550x550, h1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Programmed Universe long version pls

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 17:12:56 2015 No.12892562 >>12891274 It probably is, yeah, because I have dao keys (40g springs) and 50g omron switches. But if I'd be ordering springs from rakuten anyways I might as well buy sanwas that come with 100gs because I've got the money to throw around right now

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 19:39:37 2015 No.12893004 >>12892562 well i can vouch that the sanwa springs do fit into dao buttons with a bit of fiddling, running 100/50 and feels good only downside is that the springs on 3 and 5 resonate occasionally

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 19:56:03 2015 No.12893049 >>12893004 I'll consider that if I decide the buttons are too expensive, but I feel like I might as well go the whole 9 yards if I'm ordering from rakuten anyways.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 20:25:24 2015 No.12893148 >>12893049 buttons really aren't that expensive, especially at the current exchange rate. you'll also have some spare 100g switches because those also come default with sanwa buttons.

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 20:28:10 2015 No.12893152

>>12893148
Doesn't rakuten sell buttons without the switch? A few threads back someone directed me to the "right" version of the buttons to buy from there if I already had switches and leds, it still showed a switch in the picture but they were a lot cheaper than every other store entry for the buttons.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 20:48:10 2015 No.12893229 >>12893152 sanwa themselves don't sell a switchless button, their cheapest come with 100g switches at about ~$9

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 20:59:23 2015 No.12893273 File: 155 KB, 1000x750, psmo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I went to the arcade the other day. DDR Extreme all Single Heavy/Challenge SDG/99%.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 21:04:33 2015 No.12893287 >>12892414 fun fact, the extra covered port on konami's IIDX KOCs is for a beatmania III pedal that never got released.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 21:09:42 2015 No.12893304 >>12893229 Oh, really? Well that's even more insane that they cost half as much as on gamo's shop if they even come with a switch. So then what does all the engrish shit like "no ramp" and "old lamp holder" mean?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 21:11:18 2015 No.12893316 >>12893304 >no ramp it has no lamp, blame machine translations >old lamp holder the snap in lamp holder as opposed to the embedded switch lamp holder

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 21:32:32 2015 No.12893394 >>12893316 >the snap in lamp holder as opposed to the embedded switch lamp holder And that's what you want for dao controllers, right? Or does it not even matter because you're just buying it for the plunger and it's the cheapest one

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 21:46:02 2015 No.12893439 >>12893394 for sanwa buttons you replace the entire button assembly, $9 for just the plunger would be wasteful dao lampholders twist in but are similar to the sanwa ones

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 22:11:37 2015 No.12893506 >>12893304 also the minimum shipping from gamo2 is $30 so never order parts from dao

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 00:09:54 2015 No.12893786 >>12893273 Really impressive. Good job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 00:10:51 2015 No.12893789 >>12893273 gz anon!

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 06:44:23 2015 No.12894598

>>12893786
>>12893789
Thanks. I'm pretty excited about my recent progress.

I have to get my scores all over again because I just got the DDR 5th Mix arcade link data thing working today, so I have to fill up that PS1 memory card with AAAs. I'm a little bummed that it doesn't appear to save doubles scores, since I was thinking about branching into that next.

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 15:22:56 2015 No.12895645
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>>12894598
When will you start tackling Marv attack? It's the final frontier in DDR really. It's really funny when people say "Extreme isn't challenging, let's play ITG". Reminder that all but 2 ITG songs have been quadded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 18:41:40 2015 No.12896235 why cant i get into sdvx? i have a svre9 and a nice monitor and im doing 13's but its just not as fun as iidx. anyone feel the same way?

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 18:53:10 2015 No.12896251
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>>12895645
It's hard to start doing Marvelous attack when all you have is Extreme, though I do pay a lot of attention to the color of the note explosion while playing, mostly because I'm a 1x player and rely on it as an indication of when I'm drifting early or late.

I could start playing a lot of Random Caprice or other Nonstop, though. It'd be a start, but I wouldn't have the satisfaction of tracking counts unless I just quit after the first song. Actually, I could get away with doing that since it's a freeplay machine in an arcade that just has an entry fee. I still have a lot of work to do, getting more consistent with not getting Greats all the time.

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 19:22:33 2015 No.12896338

>>12896235
I'm finding sound voltex much easier than iidx. It took me months to start to clear 8's in iidx, but I can clear most 14's after a two weeks of sdvx. That said, I do still like sdvx, just not quite as much as iidx. It's a nice alternative though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 21:04:22 2015 No.12896668 >>12896235 I got up to the point where I've cleared every song besides ultraplayers and I barely play it anymore. Hopefully when sdvx2 final gets released with lots more harder songs and hard gauge I'll play it a lot more.

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 21:42:23 2015 No.12896798

>>12896251
I played a ton of Oni: your screenshots evidence a good set of pads so it's probably worth considering chasing records. What I did is establish my goal DP ranges on a per song basis (Stupid Nonstop doesn't afford you this because of the scoring) and I know if I got x DP I probably didn't get any greats. I don't like the newer games as much as Extreme but I wouldn't mind getting deep into SN1/2. I do think Caprice is pretty nice for regular play if you're trying to deepen your consistency.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 03:16:52 2015 No.12897896 Has anyone else lost enthusiasm for their home setup after playing at an arcade?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 04:20:32 2015 No.12898044 Just got my Rasis figure in It's really good for 1200¥ Thanks for reading my blog

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 04:27:13 2015 No.12898059 >>12897896 after playing at an arcade that i wouldn't be able to go back to consistently? no not really after moving close to an arcade that i would be able to frequent? yeah

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 04:46:02 2015 No.12898093 >>12897896 home arcades don't have lines if it's a nearby arcade which sees little use and i can get 3 hour sessions to myself on a weekday it's great, otherwise it's a lot more economical to play at home

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 04:48:50 2015 No.12898096 >>12897896 my home set up is extra cozy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:38:02 2015 No.12898244 what software do people use for the Jubeat controller? I see some people running the AC but I don't have access to that nor the knowledge on how to set that up

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 09:16:42 2015 No.12898430

>>12896235
nope, i don't. when i'm deep in the 15s it feels a lot more freeform than iidx. both my arms are moving around a lot more and it feels great.

the timing could always be tighter.

also a lot of the songs are shit. that's not to say iidx's songs aren't shit, but with the same good:bad ratio you get more good songs with a songlist of 900 compared to a songlist of 150

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 16:13:30 2015 No.12899530 When are the arcins gonna ship?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 16:19:24 2015 No.12899550 >>12899530 zyp said monday

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 16:27:58 2015 No.12899586

>>12897896
I feel the opposite way. I play better at home than I do on an arcade setup, maybe because I'm just not used to big arcade screens.

Also infinite premium free is too good, playing hard songs without risk of wasting credits.

Omnimix has way more songs than Pendual does too so there's not much reason for me to go spend money at an arcade.

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 16:58:51 2015 No.12899690

>>12897896
i played on a really well maintained arcade while on holiday, had refurbished turntables, custom screen and the metal platform thing you stand on
turntables had friction too so it was kind of like my home setup

very fun, i just picked the wrong difficulty twice

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 19:24:24 2015 No.12900143 File: 33 KB, 102x129, ap_02_0165.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this konpeto?

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 20:23:24 2015 No.12900328

So IIDX is suppose to simulate being a DJ playing a synth keyboard and scratching a turntable, right? Was there ever even an era where DJing actually consisted of performing music on a keyboard like that? Isn't it just crossfading tracks together and applying turntable effects?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 20:25:21 2015 No.12900332 >>12900328 DJs never really did, but producers/electronic artists in the 90s definitely did. look at old Daft Punk and Chemical Brothers performances.

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 20:35:56 2015 No.12900386

>>12900332
Not him but to add to this, the closest thing you will see like this now, commonly at least, is this thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuV7L4bRkuo

I think the main difference is that DJs use entire songs and 'mash up' existing pieces, while electronic artists use short samples (<30 seconds, often less than 2 seconds) to create their music

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 21:05:04 2015 No.12900493 File: 425 KB, 1000x1500, not with these sick cops 032.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12898044

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 21:25:23 2015 No.12900559

Holy shit, I just spent a week not being able to pass Tricoro's second dan because of the final song that fucked me hard, and I finally did it. I then tried third dan to see how much of a step up it would be and I actually got it on the first try.

Today was a good day

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 23:23:43 2015 No.12900939 >>12900559 Is all this dan stuff the "step up" mode? I never really thought to look into it but it seems enjoyable.

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 00:14:32 2015 No.12901117

>>12900939
The Dan ranks are in class mode, basically 4-stage courses but they're used to give you a general skill rating. Step Up mode uses this rating to recommend songs: three guaranteed stages but from a much smaller selection of "matchmade" songs/difficulties.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 00:16:54 2015 No.12901125 >>12901117 So I just keep playing step up and it calculates my dan ranking? Sorry if this is all documented somewhere, I looked at remywiki but there isn't really any info about the mode itself

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 00:21:33 2015 No.12901142 File: 66 KB, 512x288, 005[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12901125 You get dan ranks by clearing courses in class mode (3rd option in mode select) not from step up.

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 00:25:54 2015 No.12901159

>>12901142
Oh wow I can't read, I didn't remember seeing "class" in the list and I assumed that was just another term for step up. Sorry 'bout that.
I'm asking about all this stuff because my only access to IIDX is at an actual arcade at 75c per credit, so I can't really just freely experiment around on a home setup with timer freeze.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 02:06:50 2015 No.12901421 i cleared my favorite song s!ck on 8 thanks for reading my blog

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 02:58:37 2015 No.12901493 does anyone know how to set up e-amusement with nfc on their phones?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 03:50:35 2015 No.12901569 >>12901493 If you're trying to do it on an american arcade cabinet you can't. you'd have to be using official e-amuse network

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 08:38:55 2015 No.12902033 File: 249 KB, 1208x1208, 71Xc0qmRo0S__AA1208_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I know the games are not region-free (I plan to play with homebrew+iso on my wii), but what about the tatacon? Does someone know if I can use it on a PAL wii?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 11:53:13 2015 No.12902411 >>12901569 even if it's at round1? I thought they used an office e-amuse network?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 12:03:32 2015 No.12902433 >>12902411 you can but it's not very well documented and apparently it's a complete nightmare http://p.eagate.573.jp/gate/p/eamusement/virtualpass/info.html

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 12:05:51 2015 No.12902435

>>12902433
>http://p.eagate.573.jp/gate/p/eamusement/virtualpass/info.html

hm.. I went through, made an account and a virtual pass the other day, but not sure how it's supposed to link my phone to my account. when I tried, everytime I scanned my phone it just gave an error.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 12:17:37 2015 No.12902464 >>12902433 hence why it's disabled for pw

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 12:18:33 2015 No.12902469

>>12902435
your phone might not support it, as i said it isn't very well documented so there's no clear guide
>>12902464
yeah i read that the problem for most phones is that even if they do work then the id changes somewhat erratically, making it useless for a card

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 12:34:12 2015 No.12902514 >>12902469 ah, thanks anyway anon. I'll just wait to get an actual e-amuse pass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 14:32:06 2015 No.12902884 >>12902033 I have a fake one, and yes it's region free. I wouldn't recommend it though unless you want to mod it a bunch or buy that $300 one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 16:44:26 2015 No.12903402 I was invited to join a facebook group for iidx in my country and I already regret joining Are all of these groups like this?

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 19:50:06 2015 No.12904097

I'll put in what I know of the phone as an e-amuse card thing. (I'll probably sound like a retard so sorry for that.)

Your phone requires support for Japan's osaifu-keitai system which runs on FeliCa ICs. Since no one in the US uses this system, I doubt any phone in the US has the required ICs.
I'm not sure if we can emulate the osaifu-keitai system, but I think we can emulate FeliCa through host card emulation. Where to go from there is beyond me. I think Google Wallet does HCE, but I don't know if you can get it to do osaifu-keitai.

When you somehow get a phone that supports osaifu-keitai, when you scan it, it should just basically give you a new card number. I have no idea what the virtual card is for. Transferring data from a broken card maybe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 19:58:39 2015 No.12904132 >>12903402 yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 20:54:15 2015 No.12904361 >>12903402 what country? and yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 21:45:56 2015 No.12904517 >>12904361 New zealand Tuxdude is in the group

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 23:56:28 2015 No.12904962 >>12902884 Do you mean the Hori pro version something? The one I posted is about 30$ (probably ~50$ with shipping costs). Do you know if the accuracy is good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 00:13:26 2015 No.12905037 >>12904962 I don't know what version I have, it was a gift The $300 one is the expensive one that comes up if you search 'taiko' on amiami

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:13:18 2015 No.12905249 Has anyone used both dao buttons and sanwa buttons in a dao controller? Do the sanwas have a more pleasant sound once they're actually mounted in or is it more the cab's construction that gives them their nice clicky sound in the arcades?

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:05:33 2015 No.12905389

>>12905037
Yeah, it's the HORI pro version. It comes with inclinable positions and is about 2.5 times larger than the official one. AmiAmi also sells the official one but it's sold out so I'll get it from Rakuten.
Your fake is probably the chinese version I can see around in ebay. I guess it's about the same size as the official one but (maybe) with a poorer build.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 12:58:21 2015 No.12907011 >>12905249 bit of both. mostly the cab as the buttons are made from the very same plastic, but differently shaped

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 13:22:32 2015 No.12907096 >>12904097 thank you for the information. I can see why it'll just be better to get a physical pass now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 20:29:30 2015 No.12908599 I finally cleared AA on another, am I gud now?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:13:33 2015 No.12909679 >>12908599 Not until you live the American dream and AAA it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 10:32:50 2015 No.12914092 How hard would it be to code your own controller with soda cans? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob_417RM13w

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 11:37:08 2015 No.12914219 >>12914092 Why don't we have our own english fake nicovideo yet, like the subhumans and the chinks already do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 11:41:31 2015 No.12914235 >>12914092 Not hard, it'd just feel like total crap.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 13:01:58 2015 No.12914490 File: 182 KB, 640x480, screen00000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Currently in the process of relearning to play ddr. What pads are recommended or am I just better off with trying to buy a cab?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 13:39:52 2015 No.12914595 >>12914490 I wanted to get a DDR pad and posted about it a few threads ago. Was recommended one with a foam insert. Cobalt Flux is best but you can only get those second hand and shipping is expensive, so I hope you live in the US.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 13:41:24 2015 No.12914598 >>12914595 Yeah I was thinking about a secondhand CF. I live in the US (thank god). I was looking up if some machines that were being sold in my area and the only thing I could find was an Extreme for 5K.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 14:29:05 2015 No.12914731 >>12914219 Why would we need one?

Anonymous Fri Jan 16 04:14:54 2015 No.12917101

>>12874212
Different definition of difficulty mostly, the "hardest" songs in early styles are so far from the current hardest songs that getting them to match up is very difficult since a lot of the highly tiered old style songs have a big mix of easy and hard patterns. It's always good to keep in mind that clearing is the basis for all the tiers in iidx. 1 is easiest to clear while 12 is the hardest.
>>12875687
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12rpOnH0jr7HN7ArzYWoPAAAVyS_XkhgcqCFgcDSkXrc/
used to play with ring, middle, index on 1-3 but this has worked better for me so far. Currently making my way into the 10s.
>>12882189
it's entirely possible to play sitting down on a cab if the arcade has the right kind of chair. I have my PEE propped up on a keyboard stand and have a chair that lets me play at that height with my arms parallel to the ground. my monitor is a bit low but it doesn't matter a whole lot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 07:00:15 2015 No.12917318 >>12895645 No one in the world is talking about stock ITG when they say "let's play ITG" in this day-and-age.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 10:58:35 2015 No.12917606 >>12917318 This has always upset me. I was outside of the arrow smashing scene for years, and then I come back to people calling arcade StepMania "ITG".

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 11:13:25 2015 No.12917638 >>12917606 ITG in general I've always saw as annoying (The community sure as hell didn't help it) and I'm glad I wasn't good enough to play half of it when it was the thing.

Anonymous Fri Jan 16 14:03:08 2015 No.12918026

>>12904097
I think it takes any IC card at all, including train passes and such. I played http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/beatstream/bs/p/ when I was in Japan, and I was able to just touch my pasmo and play with that. Tracked scores and everything. I didn't attempt it with any older series like DDR or jubeat, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 16:20:55 2015 No.12918424 >>12918026 Pasmo uses FeliCa ICs, so I'm assuming that it needs to use FeliCa ICs. Interesting information. I guess it makes sense because I think the readers only use the unique ID of the cards to generate an account.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 16:54:49 2015 No.12918531 >>12918424 It works with Suica as well. They're all felica. Nothing is stored on the card anyway, it just act as a "login". All it reads from the card is its public ID and some kind of encrypted key. Everything else is server-side.

Anonymous Fri Jan 16 17:19:26 2015 No.12918648

>>12917101
How do you switch well between the normal and alternate position? I had no planned position at first, now I've been playing for 2 weeks always in the alternate position exactly as you described. I've been recently trying to switch between what you call normal and alternate but can't do it at all, I always end up missing a few notes, and it happens really often, as many songs have a low ammount of scratches but have them often

Anonymous Fri Jan 16 17:27:03 2015 No.12918686

>>12918648
as you get used to playing with both it should come a bit more naturally since you will start associating certain patterns with certain hand positions. something that helped me was repeatedly alternating 2 3 with middle and thumb and 1 2 with thumb and index. throw in a scratch if you need to. just do this while waiting for the game to load etc and it should help you get used to switching.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 18:38:30 2015 No.12918954 Did spada change how the lane cover is enabled? Double tapping start isn't doing anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 19:12:33 2015 No.12919082 >>12918954 Hold start then press select Then select Sudden+

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 20:21:29 2015 No.12919278 >>12918954 that still works after selecting a song. try it a couple of times. if not, do >>12919082 from song select.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 22:29:13 2015 No.12919646 Is there a list of all the boss songs in iidx?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 01:23:06 2015 No.12920143 >>12919646 Just look up the extra and one more extra stage songs for each mix There's also extra stage things since distorted like the vip room in gold or military splash in dj troopers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 02:50:49 2015 No.12920406 Hey guys where can i buy a iidx controller in japan? My sister is going there next week and i might want to ask her to buy one for me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 02:56:10 2015 No.12920423 >>12920406 I don't think you can just "buy" one there unless you're okay with a koc, but you might as well just get a uskoc at that point. Maybe she could order a dao there with really cheap shipping and just bring it back to you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 03:04:37 2015 No.12920444 Is there an active and easily available Pop'n simulator out there? A bit of research turned up something called "feeling pomu" but I couldn't find a working download and everything was all moonrunes anyways

Anonymous Sat Jan 17 03:33:27 2015 No.12920535

Does anybody play BMS with a keyboard here? What keys do you use? I come from playing o2jam and am used to using SDF SPACE JKL and I can't get to hitting the scratch in LR2 so I've just been playing autoscratch. Should I just try to use A or ; for scratch?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 03:53:40 2015 No.12920581 >>12920444 Feeling Pomu comes bundled with Colorful Channel, but LR2 with the Light Pop EX skin is better. Get Colorful Channel for the songs anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 03:59:35 2015 No.12920593 >>12920535 Well it depends a little on how long your fingers are but I use asd space l;' and left shift for scratch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 04:02:42 2015 No.12920596 Is there a widely recognized single hardest song in IIDX?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 04:06:26 2015 No.12920606 >>12920596 I think it's Hyper Red Scorpion Fire

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 04:06:33 2015 No.12920609 >>12920596 There are songs that are difficult to Clear, difficult to Hard Clear/Ex Hard Clear, and difficult to score well on. There is a different answer for each.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 04:10:38 2015 No.12920617 >>12920609 To clear, I guess. I just recently picked up the game after having never really seen it before and I want to see how crazy it gets at the top

Anonymous Sat Jan 17 04:26:09 2015 No.12920635

>>12920617
SP Clear ranking:
http://textage.cc/banner/newsort.php?sort_type=1&banner=1&ranking=1

SP Hard Clear ranking:
http://textage.cc/banner/newsort.php?sort_type=2&banner=1&ranking=1

Not yet updated to include Pendual, which includes some cute things like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA1MFulL55Q

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 06:37:55 2015 No.12920850 >>12919278 Actually, If in the options menu, you're in beginner options (the 4 green ones), the game won't let you use sudden+, even in gameplay

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 11:43:23 2015 No.12921307 >>12920596 the safari

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 12:01:49 2015 No.12921363 >>12920596 dong-tepo no.1

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 15:15:52 2015 No.12921868 >>12920635 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA1MFulL55Q A question about handcams Do the arcades have a webcam setup for VIP customers to use? Or do the players have some sort of special mount for their cell phones?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 16:07:08 2015 No.12921990 >>12921868 To add to this, how do they get direct capture footage? I imagine you'd have to go to the back of the machine and fuck around with it. Do they just let the best players have access to that shit or something?

Anonymous Sat Jan 17 16:07:15 2015 No.12921993

>>12920850
Oh, that would explain it. I used to play on a uskoc and had to set the offset every time I booted up so that took me out of beginner options, and I switched to Spada at the same time I got my dao and stopped having to set the offset.
So that answers my question, thanks a bunch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 16:26:59 2015 No.12922037 >>12921868 Are those pink leds or is it just the lighting?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 16:28:26 2015 No.12922043 >>12922037 They look pretty red to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 17:08:50 2015 No.12922152 >>12921990 The arcade machines are really just PCs built with a specific set of parts and a large monitor. It's about as easy to pull audio and video from as any other computer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 17:45:30 2015 No.12922241 >>12922152 But these PCs must be in cases where you cant plug anything directly. Wouldn't the arcade staff kick you out if they saw you thinkering with the arcade booths and setting capture devices?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 18:04:33 2015 No.12922301 >>12922241 friends on staff

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 18:45:10 2015 No.12922428 >>12921990 All cabinets have a video out that can be accessed. You don't have to "fuck" with anything. For handshot I suppose that they just use a mount and attach their camera on the rail just above.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 19:38:19 2015 No.12922627 File: 274 KB, 1488x838, 736d8d5f7c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the fuck do I get this thing to stay down without permanently gluing it? Double sided tape didn't work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 19:50:48 2015 No.12922673 >>12922627 How didn't double sided tape work? I taped 3 strips under and it's perfect

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 22:07:21 2015 No.12923103 >>12922673 That helped for a bit, but I would still have to press it down a bit every time I looked at it. Now it's back to curling up as far as it did from the start.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:05:58 2015 No.12923611 I downloaded a LR2 theme and after enabling it the screen's viewport is only showing the top left corner of the game screen, so the theme isn't scaling to the window. What did I fuck up

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:15:15 2015 No.12923630 I have never played a rhythm game. Which should I play?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:17:18 2015 No.12923637 >>12923611 You're using an HD theme with vanilla LR2.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:21:28 2015 No.12923646 >>12923630 Taiko no tatsujin, is sooo good and easy to get a handle of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:21:59 2015 No.12923648 >>12923637 I figured it was something like that. Do I need an entirely separate version of LR2 or is it just another addon package I need to download as well?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:24:00 2015 No.12923656 >>12923646 How about one that I can sit in front of my computer and play?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:26:04 2015 No.12923660 >>12923656 well, you can do that too with that game, just search taiko jiro, or play the DS games, and if you have enough sources, try the ps2 games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:30:08 2015 No.12923668 >>12923660 Taiko jiro is good enough, I don't really want to emulate (it preforms to poorly on my machine). Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:44:02 2015 No.12923684 >>12923630 Lunatic Rave 2

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:45:49 2015 No.12923689 >>12923668 Hey anon, if you want, I can upload the simulator with some songs, the problem is that some songs are oni only.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:50:07 2015 No.12923692 >>12923684 Sounds difficult. >>12923689 Well I did find a neat little forum link that had the files and a website for songs, so I won't really need that. Thanks anyway. Also what is oni?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:54:27 2015 No.12923699 >>12923692 is the difficulty: Kantan, Futsu, muzukashi and oni. That would be easy, normal, hard and "demon" respectively.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 01:55:39 2015 No.12923702 >>12923699 I see. Thank you for getting me started on this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 02:00:00 2015 No.12923709 >>12923702 You are welcome, that was the game that got me in playing rhythm games, I suggest that game to everyone that wants to start playing rhythm games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 02:04:03 2015 No.12923714 >>12923630 Keyboard stepmania is a good place to start. It's easy to set up, easy to get the hang of, and practically every song you can think of has been charted for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 02:06:30 2015 No.12923719 >>12923714 I've seen videos of that before. Seems fun. I'll be sure to play all of the recommendations given to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 02:07:02 2015 No.12923722 >>12923719 stepmaniaonline.net has all the stuff u need

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 03:10:16 2015 No.12923811 >>12922627 don't even bother and just take it off

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 03:57:10 2015 No.12923883 >>12923811 But the screws underneath it are so ugly I was thinking of doing art mods including a custom thin sticker for the turntable that'll actually stay, but I still need to learn how to actually get the ink off the back of the plexi plate first

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 04:16:38 2015 No.12923916 >>12923883 >But the screws underneath it are so ugly you should visit svgl :^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 13:39:35 2015 No.12925244 Anyone else IMAGE -MATERIAL- S Rank hype?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 13:42:53 2015 No.12925256 >>12925244 inb4 quack

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 15:52:54 2015 No.12925624 >>12925244 pensamento 2014 image material 2015 It's the slidering

Anonymous Sun Jan 18 16:57:27 2015 No.12925858

Is there a way to run HD LR2 windowed at a higher resolution than 1280x720 without it looking all jagged and chunky? it resamples up fine in fullscreen, but what I use LR2 for is shorter sessions while I'm following threads or talking to people so having it windowed is nice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 16:58:48 2015 No.12925864 >>12925244 i am winner

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 18:05:35 2015 No.12926056 >>12920596 Plan 8 has the lowest overall clear rate in the game last I checked, so there's that. idk what people think of newer ridiculous shit like Verflucht [L]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 18:41:25 2015 No.12926157 >>12926056 What's Plan 8's clear rate? I wouldn't say CR is a very good indication of a difficulty at a higher level. Himiko Another had 1% when I checked yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 18 21:39:39 2015 No.12926576 I am trying to into Jubeat on the iPad because I am Amerifat, and I can't get anything higher than a B on Evans on Advanced. How can I improve, and what are some other good fun songs?

Anonymous Sun Jan 18 22:10:16 2015 No.12926656

Will IIDX soundtracks ever be good again? Are all these doujin artists with their j-core here to stay?

If they can get guys like Wall5, Mutsuhiko Izumi and Hideyuki Ono to do stuff for DDR of all things, why can't they bring someone like Slake or good-cool to do shit for IIDX again?

Anonymous Sun Jan 18 22:37:43 2015 No.12926715

>>12926576
do the same thing i have been doing for iidx
identify what level you are able to play
play that level
when you are able to clear ~70% of songs you play on that level, move onto the next level
when you are able to clear ~70% of songs on that level, go back and test to see if you can clear any songs from the previous level that you couldnt before

its a good self esteem boost as well as actually improves your gameplay

>>	venny Sun Jan 18 22:41:26 2015 No.12926722 File: 1.80 MB, 4208x3120, IMG_20150118_130829.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Played an assload of ITG 2 today, cleared VerTex^2 on medium

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 00:23:02 2015 No.12927124 Suddenly getting a Network error of 5-2002-0000 when trying to launch Spada. Been playing for months without issue before this. Any ideas on what's up?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 01:11:10 2015 No.12927262 >>12927124 doublecheck that your pcbid is still valid and that it matches what's in your ea3-config

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 01:52:10 2015 No.12927410 >>12927124 You installed or enabled network adapters. Did you install a vpn or hamachi?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 02:20:05 2015 No.12927487 >>12927262 >>12927410 Generated a new PCBID for myself with a different port and it worked? Guessing it was a porting issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 02:50:52 2015 No.12927596 >>12927509 Important rules being enacted by me. Make sure you understand the new rules around these parts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 02:52:58 2015 No.12927603 >>12927596 nah, fuck off mate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 02:57:24 2015 No.12927616 >>12927487 the port doesn't matter for iidx, it's only needed for netplay on enabled games

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 03:25:42 2015 No.12927685 >>12927616 Really? Oh well, maybe my PCBID got banned for some reason?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 04:14:20 2015 No.12927774 Who osu here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 07:50:57 2015 No.12928256 >>12927685 if it was one from tictak those got revoked because of widespread misuse otherwise the only way i know of to get them banned is triggering a coin event

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 08:01:54 2015 No.12928280 >>12927774 Everyone in this thread dearly loves osu

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 15:05:40 2015 No.12929300 I want to get back into Stepmania but I haven't played in so long I know I'd get super depressed about my old scores and just quit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 15:09:38 2015 No.12929308 >>12929300 iktf i still play but i sdoubt i'll triple a anything again ;-;

Anonymous Mon Jan 19 16:01:04 2015 No.12929489

Am I the only one who never really gave a shit about timing and scoring and just cared about learning to comfortably play heavier and heavier stuff?
I'm starting to follow it a bit with IIDX because it's got the online scoreboards and all, but for the most part I have more fun just pushing myself to hold a combo on harder and harder songs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 16:09:48 2015 No.12929512 >>12929489 Timing and scoring is somewhat irrelevant if you can't clear most of the 12s consistently. You can't score when you're barely hitting the notes. So, if you're still working your way up, do whatever works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 17:19:57 2015 No.12929729 >>12927774 I used to play a lot and was ranked 10k but I retired and bought an IIDX controller. I can't go back to osu now, tried to play the other night and I got sick of it in 30minutes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 17:24:54 2015 No.12929742 >>12927774 played a long time (3 yrs, cleared chipscape once that was my biggest achievement) before moving to IIDX/BMS it's pretty boring now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 17:30:39 2015 No.12929764 >>12926656 good-cool isn't dead, moron

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 17:33:57 2015 No.12929769 >>12929764 He said IIDX mate, not GF or even pop'n.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 17:36:10 2015 No.12929775 >>12926157 Himiko is 7%, DIAVOLO is 5% and Plan 8 is 4%. Those are the only three below 10%, although 3y3s is 10% exactly Keep in mind this is eAMUSEMENT I'm talking about and not PSun

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 17:37:50 2015 No.12929778 >>12929775 should also mention that this is based on data from the end of SPADA that was on click again i can try and find up to date data from PENDUAL

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 18:02:59 2015 No.12929844 File: 178 KB, 480x272, ffr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This thread doesn't seem very 4K-oriented, but is anybody here still playing this? I think it's good fun

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 18:15:54 2015 No.12929892 >>12927774 I like it. Although I'm pretty annoyed with the score on combo thing. It's pretty hard to see real rank when the pp system is flawed.

Anonymous Mon Jan 19 19:04:05 2015 No.12930075

>>12929892
>when the pp system is flawed.
The worst thing about this is that there are a lot of retards in the community praising pp to be the best system ever
the most toxic shits ever, they're encouraging peppy not to change anything

this game will stay shit for all eternity

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 19:17:54 2015 No.12930118 >>12929844 I never really saw why you'd play that over Stepmania.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 19:27:52 2015 No.12930149 >>12930118 It's a lot easier on the accuracy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 19:31:19 2015 No.12930158 >>12930149 Isn't that just because marvelous timing isn't turned on by default? I always thought the timing windows were the same between the two.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 20:07:00 2015 No.12930233 >>12930158 Well I'm not sure about the specifics Besides that, the mechanics are much simpler too, no sliders/long notes and no bombs or anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 19 21:04:05 2015 No.12930407 >>12930233 Do people actually play keyboard without bombs turned off? It doesn't actually add anything when you're not playing on a pad.

Anonymous Tue Jan 20 01:17:04 2015 No.12931150

Is there anything at all resembling an english-speaking scene that charts existing songs for LR2, like Stepmania has?
I would imagine not because keysounding would be impossible if you just have one audio track to work with, but I miss that about Stepmania.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 02:00:19 2015 No.12931246 >>12929489 yes literally the only one very excited to get my arcin board here soon. hopefully I'm spared of all the shit dao has been giving us with his board updates.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 03:40:38 2015 No.12931438 >>12931246 T8 is practically perfect for game play. The buttons always have and always will have 1ms input delay, as low as you can get on USBHID. The arcin is primarily useful for lights and old board upgrades now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 12:54:27 2015 No.12931979 Is there some kind of pastebin for rhythm games?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 14:10:48 2015 No.12932149 Is there a way to run Pop'n Music windowed? Is there a way to adjust audio/video delay? HDD's seem to have the video ahead of the sound.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 14:22:56 2015 No.12932183 >>12932149 yes, use dxwnd or something not that i know of, though running it in HD mode should mitigate it a bit since SD assumes you're running a CRT

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 14:27:36 2015 No.12932199 >>12932183 >not that i know of, though running it in HD mode should mitigate it a bit since SD assumes you're running a CRT This is not a problem with popnmusic only, it's also on iidx and sdvx for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 15:09:48 2015 No.12932329 How do people here play your games? I'm guessing emulated? I've been googling around and I haven't really found anything except for a few dead IIDX torrents and I was wondering if anyone here could point me in the right direction?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 15:20:12 2015 No.12932362 >>12932329 Lurk more, anon. Or check the archives. Im seeding Spada right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 17:30:32 2015 No.12932699 >>12932199 It is possible to adjust the delay in IIDX though. Dont know about the others

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 18:13:43 2015 No.12932827 Is there an alternative download for the sound voltex ac data? I could get it from bemaniso .ws /torrents.php ?id=6052 but >ratio

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 18:16:05 2015 No.12932836 >>12932827 Build your ratio, it took me 2 months to get the data from sows.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 18:18:45 2015 No.12932847 >>12932836 I've been doing that, but my maximum upload speed is 50 kb/s and it took an year to get to 5GB uploaded.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 18:20:25 2015 No.12932854 >>12932827 how did you even manage to get an invite

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 18:21:44 2015 No.12932862 >>12932847 Weird, that's my upload speed too, are you always seeding?, you can buy 10 Gb for 450 points.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 18:28:45 2015 No.12932884 >>12932862 Not always because it takes all the bandwidth, but I did rack up some bonus points. Guess I'll just wait until I have ~900 so I can buy 20GB. I just couldn't wait to try the turbocharger that came home today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 18:35:47 2015 No.12932899 >>12932884 there's always k-shootmania

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 20:19:11 2015 No.12933116 >>12932183 use GeDaSaTo and run at 60 hz

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 21:17:20 2015 No.12933335 >>12932847 >>12932836 I'm not in sows and I don't know much about how bittorrent works, but how do you even upload and get your ratio up if you can't download the data to seed it?

Anonymous Tue Jan 20 21:19:11 2015 No.12933341

If I've got the money to spare, are sanwa buttons over daos really worth $88? Does it really make that much of a difference?
I'm really temped to upgrade because my controller is starting to feel really squishy and unsatisfying but I'll feel pretty awful if I drop the money and it doesn't really change the feel all that much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 21:43:18 2015 No.12933424 >>12933341 Get omron switches first and see if it makes a difference. You can get those inexpensively

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 20 21:48:14 2015 No.12933442 >>12933424 I already have omrons

Anonymous Tue Jan 20 21:59:49 2015 No.12933473

>>12933335
Is so easy, and is called perseverance, you can download stuff in the Free Leech category, and seed that to get points, or, you can wait FREE LEECHING, as the name says, you can download everything without affecting your download ratio, and you can seed that to get a good ratio, ah yes, and you can upload stuff to the torrent too, like CD's, doujins or stuff related to bemani or not too related, and you can build ratio with that too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 01:04:58 2015 No.12934053 How long did it take /jp/ before they could start clearing Another's?

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 01:12:54 2015 No.12934076

Anyone have any experience with simulating Drummania? Tried it for the first time last week and loved it, but the arcade is a 50 minute drive. I'm guessing a Rock Band pro drum set with an extra pedal will probably be the best (cheapest) I can do in terms of controllers.

What's the latest version out on sows anyway? I can't check myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 01:38:30 2015 No.12934146 got my fp7 in mail today, from hc clearing 9s to failing 2/3s. the keyboard to controller transition is crazy hard

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 01:55:37 2015 No.12934176 >>12934146 What keyboard layout did you play on?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 02:26:50 2015 No.12934245 >>12934176 the standard sdf[space]jkl, with left shift for scratch

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 02:38:59 2015 No.12934271 >>12934245 Then yeah, you're playing a whole different game at this point. It's a lot more fun, you'll just have to learn from the group up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 03:36:02 2015 No.12934419 >>12934076 i think only x2 has a working crack

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 04:29:27 2015 No.12934546 >>12926576 Personally? Play on Expert level 9s and 10s to get your reaction rate up. Once you feel like you can hit most notes, work on actually getting the timing right. Of course, this is not recommended for rhythm games with health bars

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 04:44:55 2015 No.12934576

>>12933341
Shit place to ask since you can't be sure if people are bullshitting or not, but I'd say definitely get Sanwas if you can.
Maybe check rakuten for cheaper prices or something.

In general this problem is strange. What do you mean by difference? Are you interested in the game or not? You already spent like $300+. With Sanwas and optionally arcin you'll be as close to AC as possible.
Why would you go as far as to buy an expensive dedicated controller without proper buttons in the first place? Did you feel $300 is an acceptable price to just try out the game first?

Daos are squishy and Sanwas aren't, but first ask yourself how long do you expect to play with your toy? Don't buy anything if you're casual player. Just do your thing and let the controller sit somewhere looking fancy.

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 04:53:41 2015 No.12934597

>>12934576
Rakuten is what I'm looking at, because I can buy a set of buttons for about as much as they would have cost to get them from the start.

>What do you mean by difference?
The dao keys feel a little short and squishy, they don't feel amazing to play on and they don't have the satisfying click I see people talk about and hear in videos on arcade cabs. The sound is obviously not as important, but something about their sound just irritates me. I'm not really sure if that's more the buttons or the construction of the controller though.

I didn't just start out with a $300 controller, I played on a koc for a month or two and decided I liked the game enough to get a real controller. I upgraded the microswitches but just got default dao buttons knowing I could buy them separately for around the same price.

Maybe I should try and find a real cab to play on and see what I think

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 04:57:18 2015 No.12934602

>>12933341
the feeling difference is quite noticable, as is the sound. if it helps, think about how many hours so far you've played the game and how many more you might play, and how far you want to push your skills.

Also, dao buttons come with 40g springs by default and sanwas when ordered from sanwadenshi on rakuten come with 100g and 100g switches too, so transplant the old switches and lamps and you're good.

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 05:04:53 2015 No.12934615

>>12934602
I think I'm pretty into the game, I've been craving a solid rhythm game to sink into after guitar hero died out and keyboard stepmania has been starting to get a little dull after a few years. I feel like I've finally landed on one I can stick with because there's just so much to the game and it's got such a huge community behind it. Even if this level of enthusiasm for it wanes out, I'll always be playing rhythm games in general and I don't really see myself moving my main focus onto another one so I'll always have iidx as my standard for whenever I feel like clacking away for a few songs.

Aesthetics are a pretty huge deal to me so I'm sure I'll enjoy the sanwas, but it's just a lot of money to spend at once on parts I've technically already got something that works for.

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 05:08:16 2015 No.12934621

>>12934597
>I'm not really sure if that's more the buttons or the construction of the controller though.

It's definitely the buttons. The plastics are different and it's very subtle from the top appearance-wise but you can see and feel how cheap everything is when you look at the nut threads and the switch holder, the untrimmed mold seams, the small imperfections.

>>12934615
If you like the aesthetics aspect of it, most people would consider it a waste but replace the start and select buttons too. Huge difference all around.

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 05:09:06 2015 No.12934623

>>12934597
Alright. Sanwas will give you that click and responsiveness. Good default setup would be 50g Omron and Sanwa with 100g springs.

I honestly feel you're making this decision way harder than it should be for $88. Just trust me and buy them. If they don't satisfy you, come back and go nuts.

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 05:13:08 2015 No.12934630

>>12934621
>It's definitely the buttons.
Great, the sound alone is enough for it to be worth it for me.

>If you like the aesthetics aspect of it, most people would consider it a waste but replace the start and select buttons too.
"Aesthetics" was probably a shitty term to use, I didn't mean visuals. I just mean the feel and sound even though it won't actually make me play better or anything

>I honestly feel you're making this decision way harder than it should be for $88. Just trust me and buy them. If they don't satisfy you, come back and go nuts.
Yeah, I just enjoy the conversation I guess. It makes the upgrade more exciting when I've heard how great they are and gives me less to worry about.
Anyways I have the info I need so I'll just buy them and stop shitting up the thread now

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 05:21:21 2015 No.12934636

>>12934630
>Yeah, I just enjoy the conversation I guess. It makes the upgrade more exciting when I've heard how great they are and gives me less to worry about.
You know what you should be worried about? Dat kaiden...This will either make or break your life.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 10:49:08 2015 No.12935254 >>12934146 YES! I'm in the same boat, rival me!

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 11:10:13 2015 No.12935280

So as someone who moved back to Brooklyn, NY where is the nearest arcade in NY that has an IIDX machine. Note I don't have a legal driver's license in this country so other states are out of the question.

I mean it's New York, I'm sure they have some somewhere, probably china town.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 11:14:00 2015 No.12935286 >>12935280 http://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/arcades.php

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 11:15:04 2015 No.12935289 >>12935286 thanks anon.

Anonymous Wed Jan 21 12:00:37 2015 No.12935428
File: 10 KB, 128x600, iidx_normal_timing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>12922627
I just take them out and put them back on when I'm not playing.

>>12930158
FFR timing (according to google) is 3 frames for perfect at 30 fps or 100ms.
Compare that to DDR Extreme+ perfect at 33.33 ms
and IIDX (usually) 33.33 ms for flashing great or 83.85ms to hit within the great window.

So it's 3 times more lenient to most other equivalents. Since I'm sure most of you are familiar with IIDX, it's slightly easier than hitting great in most IIDX songs.

>>12932329
I'm in a good mood
google a little harder, get chummy with people on a certain IRC. If you search the archives plenty of people have given out too much info before.

>>12932847
>>12932827
Regardless of your upload speed, uploading on sows is a fucking nightmare. That said you should really get your upload up using bonus points. That's 360 points if you seed for a whole month straight. Of course you probably can't seed 24/7 but at least try to seed for 5 hours a day.

Also you really need to take advantage of free leach, we just had a new years one. You should've downloaded a million things including sound voltex.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 12:06:40 2015 No.12935465 >>12935428 >Compare that to DDR Extreme+ perfect at 33.33 ms Pretty sure Perfect is 4 frames (~67 ms) while Marvelous is 2 frames (~33 ms).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 12:10:22 2015 No.12935486 >>12935465 It's possible, I don't know DDR Extreme+ timing, I just googled it and stumbled on a stepmania forum. I'll take your word for it though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 12:12:55 2015 No.12935501 >>12935486 Since the StepMania metrics define timing windows as a +/- thing, a lot of people in the DDR community liked to refer to timing windows in that way, e.g. Perfect is +/- 33.3 ms instead of just saying 66.7 ms wide.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 21 12:23:14 2015 No.12935531 >>12935501 Ah, that makes a lot of sense. The more you know and what not.

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