/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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Visual Novel translation status


>12Riven- 64/72 scripts translated, 3/75 scripts edited
Air (Project 1)- Through QC, some tech work remains before patch
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1137/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (49.3%)"
Amairo IsleNauts - prologue and common route fully translated, Shirley route 10% TL, Masaki 18.5% TL, Konoka 10% TL, bonus 20% TL, prologue patch out
Clover Day - 618.8/648 KB of the common route + 74/722 KB of a route translated
Cocoro Function - 14735/53644 (27.47%) lines translated
>Daitoshokan no Hitsujikai - 16370/69128 (23.6%) lines translated, demo released
Gensou no Idea - Common route 21% translated
>Hanahira - fully translated, being finalized
>Haramiko - Common + Hazuki partial patch released
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Hatsukoi 1/1 - Being translated
Koichoco - 100% translated, 315/397 files edited
>Koiken Otome - 94.31% translated, 78.31% edited, prologue patch released
>Koisuru Natsu no Last Resort - 29630/36325 (81.57%) lines translated, Common + Umi + Riho route translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 67.4% translated
Lamune - Nanami route partial patch released, Hikari route 1436/6085 lines translated
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. 29712/30163 new lines translated
Lovely Cation- 6.39% of lines translated
Magical Marriage Lunatics - 11,856/64,062 = 18.51% lines translated
>Mamatoto: 68.2% Complete
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - 65% partial patch released
Muv-Luv TDA 01 - 50% translated
>Noble Works - 29,153 / 57,690 (50.5%) lines translated, partial patch released
>Nursery Rhyme - 1825/33014 lines translated

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Oreimo PSP - 100% translated, 239/299 through TLC+Editing, 217/299 scripts finalized, Kirino + Ayase partial patch released
Oreimo Tsuzuku - 199/268 scripts translated, 78/268 through TLC+Editing, 66/268 scripts finalized
>PersonA - 42% translated
Princess Maker 5- 86.06% lines translated, 32.91% of lines finalized
Rance 5D - 40% translated
Rance 6 - 10% translated
>Rance Quest - 18.16% messages and 89.05% strings translated
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 5155/30040 (17.16%) lines translated
Rose Guns Days 3 - 60% translated and edited
>SakuSaku - Common route + Konami route fully translated, 25034/49257 (51%) lines translated, 15993/49257 (32%) lines finalized
>Sanarara R - 15/124 scripts translated
Sayonara wo Oshiete - 4269/14309 (29.8%) lines translated
Sonicomi - 984/18196 (5.2%) lines translated
SonoHana 10 - Being translated
SonoHana 11 - Being translated
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 48564/53520 (90.7%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited
Supreme Candy - ~14573/43261 (~33.7%) lines translated
Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 100% translated, in editing
To Heart2- 67% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
>Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete - 3719/35056 (10.6%) lines translated
>Witch's Garden - 16097/67201 (23.95%) lines translated, prologue patch released
>White Album 2 - Opening chapter fully translated with a "rough patch", Closing Chapter: 3109/35275 (8.81%) lines translated
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 72.67%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 84.64%, Motoka 30.67%, Common and Kazuha fully edited

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Official work

MangaGamer
Space Pirate Sara - December 26th release
Eden - In beta
No Thank You - In Beta, demo released
Princess Evangile - In beta
Yome no Imouto to no Inai - Through Beta
>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 63.37% translated, 22.1% edited
>Bokuten - 46.2% translated, 10.1% edited
>Da Capo 3 - Prologue + Ch. 0 complete, Common route 57.2% translated, overall 30.9%
Higurashi (retranslation) - 14.5% of Watanagashi TL, Onikakushi editing finished
>Gahkthun - 52.5% translated, 18.9% edited
>OZMAFIA - Main route: 98.6% translated, overall 13.7% translated
>Euphoria - 64.9% translated, 34.1% edited
>House in Fata Morgana - Demo 84.4% translated, full game 25.1% translated
Free Friends - Fully translated and edited
Free Friends 2 - 16% translated, 16% edited
Supipara - Intend to fund through Eden's sales

JAST
Romanesque - December 16th release
Hanachirasu - Feb 10th release
Starless - March 10th release
>Shiny Days - Translation finished, in editing/timing, 2015 release
>Seinarukana- Fully translated, being tested and edited
Raidy III - TL finished, in insertion
Django - Couple more months of translation
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- translation about half done
Sweet Home - In translation
Sumeragi Ryoko - Picked up

Sekai Project
World End Economica- Chapter 2 by end of year
Fault -milestone one- - end of the year release
Grisaia trilogy - Kickstarter planned
Clannad - Ongoing Kickstarter
WAS Lepidoptera no Sunadokey - Kickstarter finished
Nekopara - 18+ release through developer + all ages release by Sekai, demo released


Other
Moenovel is working on another title
Eiyuu Senki - PS3 version picked up
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
>Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - Kickstarter planned
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

[Anonymous No.]

>Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night

This shit looks worse than your average oelvn. Impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12794800
Fuck off corntastic

[Anonymous No.]

>>12794776
>Seinarukana- Fully translated, being tested and edited
>green

[Anonymous No.]

JAST with 2 in the green after 3 last week! What sorcery is this!?

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>>12794823
It was announced as fully translated over a year ago.

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>>12794836
>I was all but done with Seinarukana around October though and LWR in January. The Man’s got me down. I miss freedom. And the fun/motivation boost of actually releasing something. I miss being motivated instead of the suffocation of collective apathy about my work.
This is from April.

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>>12794824

Don't worry. After this flurry of releases it'll be another decade or so before JAST does anything else.

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>>12794840
I can confirm that there hasn't been any editing or testing done on it for months too.

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Has JAST officially confirmed that they'll be censoring Shitty Days yet? I mean, I assume they will, but have they said anything about it?

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>>12794931
In all likely hood they will probably do what they are doing for Starless, censor it with encouraging others to fix it.

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>Nursery Rhyme - 1825/33014 lines translated
I can't believe I'm living in a world where Nursery Rhyme is being translated.

[Anonymous No.]

The most useless thread in this board.

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>>12794977
Can't be worse than the idol bully threads. At least translators exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12794977
Kill yourself

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>>12794974
It's yet another new project for Nursery Rhyme, and it will likely fall apart like the prior attempts.

[Anonymous No.]

Is NekoPara coming out at the end of December or is that just a placeholder date?

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>>12794931
What is in Shiny Days that they would want to remove?

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>>12795014
It is coming out at the end of december, at comiket.

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>>12795022
Loli fucking?

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>>12795038
Doesn't seem like anything worse than what was in the Osadai fandisc released by JAST earlier this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>fault milestone one will be coming out this upcoming Monday!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/286260

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>>12795051
IIRC none of the characters in Osadai were as clearly underage as Kokoro is.

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>>12795058
Osadai fandisc has Qoo sex, who has the appearance of a child. Kokoro doesn't look much younger. MG gets around stuff like this with their flimsy disclaimers about all characters being at least 18 years old, and JAST does the same thing. They also released Saya no Uta last year, you know. I don't think they'll shy away from lolicon. Starless is different, you can say someone who looks like a child is over 18, but you can't say a dog ain't a dog.

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>>12795055
dovac has learned, by taking all of the screenshots in japanese, we can't criticize the shoddy translation.

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>>12794770
>Rose Guns Days 3 - 60% translated and edited
Given that this hasn't progressed in like a year, can we assume it's a safe bet that Witch hunt is working in conjunction with R07 to release WTC5 with English?

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>>12795166
Obviously it could not possibly mean anything else.

[Anonymous No.]

Dovac posted that the Grisaia Kickstarter is starting Monday evening.

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>>12795216
So what are the odds they get funded? Ask me 2 weeks ago I would have said without a doubt but with Frontwing nixing the 18+ edition and the still unexplained 40k increase I'm no longer sure. The worst part is that English speakers might never receive the gift of Magical Girl Michiru.

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>>12795232

Frankly most of the too-eager-to-pay backers won't care about the 18+ edition. This game has some of the worse H-scenes among high profile games in recent memory.

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>>12795232
I imagine the kickstarter will barely fund the trilogy. We aren't getting Mahou Shoujo Michiru.

To be honest, given how terrible Frontwing and Dovac have been over this, I WANT the Kickstarter to fail even if it means the rest of the trilogy is never translated. Be a good motivator for me to learn nip.

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>>12795241
>This game has some of the worse H-scenes among high profile games in recent memory.
I dunno man

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>>12795055
>Customers who buys the game will get this Steam exclusive, a digital shikishi of Ritona!

>Customers who buys

My expectations are low.

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>>12795241
I don't care about the porn either but the kickstarter needs more than the too-eager-to-pay backers to reach the 160k goal to fund it and their on momentum was stopped with the last changes.

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The grisaia kickstarter probably would have earned several hundred thousand dollars if they launched it within the first couple weeks of the anime's debut when people were still optimistic, regardless of whether or not there would be an 18+ version. Now? Who knows. The anime is a huge turd and it's hard to imagine it will drive many sales. Timing is everything and SP was probably too slow.

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>Princess Maker 5- 86.06% lines translated, 32.91% of lines finalized
>Sayonara wo Oshiete - 4269/14309 (29.8%) lines translated
>SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 48564/53520 (90.7%) lines translated and 40597/53520 (75.9%) lines edited

Waiting hardly.

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>>12795255
It's the translation that's good, not the original scene. H-scenes are basically only ever good when the translator just makes up their own dialogue.

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>>12795273
The lack of an 18+ version will no doubt knock the total down (and it's doubtful a later release will make up the difference), but seeing that WAS brought in $60k, Grisaia should be able to get $160k without too much trouble.

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>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 63.37% translated, 22.1% edited

早い! Damn, i can't wait to read this.

>Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete - 3719/35056 (10.6%) lines translated

Can we trust this project? I saw that Fuwanovel and Spanish TL group are involved.

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>>12795380
>早い
Filthy EOP like you don't deserve the previlege to write Japanese. Kill yourself.

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>>12795400
You are being rude. I'm studying japanese but it's quite long to achieve a real good level of ching chong.

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>>12795051
Makoto kind of rapes Kokoro(the loli) in the game

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>>12795400
俺はＥＯＰってしますが、誰も俺が停止しないぞｗ

[Anonymous No.]

Where's Kana Okaeri?

[Anonymous No.]

The most pathetic thread in this board.

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>>12795702
I hope this is sarcasm.
Let's see what the first post of other threads say:
>Satori thread?
>mo' money mo' miji
>Anzuchang!
>I wanna marry the Yama!
>maajan?
I belive in Rika Nipah.
>Ohayou
>In Outer Heaven, men become demons.
>ITT: We draw Touhous
>Getting married to Patchouli!
>Do you think she knows about sumata?
>Ritsuko is the ______ idol.
>Find a better picture of Meiling than this.
I don't think it exists.
>No anon, remember you're mine and mine alone
>Kanako!
>heh
>How is this Suigintou.
In what way is this Suigintou.
What the shit.

Practically the most inane board on the internet, even /b/ is better, and the translation thread is sane by comparison.

[Anonymous No.]

http://ask.fm/MangaGamerStaff/answer/121476592114
>Most likely we'll be able to open pre-orders for eden* and eden* PLUS MOSAIC on our website by the end of this month.

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2014/12/12/a-message-from-minori-regarding-eden-plus-mosaic/
>We will retain [the mosaics].
>eden* PLUS MOSAIC will initially be released with the original mosaics intact as-is. Once minori finishes development work on their current Japanese release, it will be updated to feature Reduced Mosaics like ef -a fairy tale of the two.

Speaking of ef, its limited edition is selling less than the first Boob Wars game. Also, with this Christmas sale, titles such as Koihime Musou and Cho Dengeki Stryker are getting some attention on MG website.

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>>12795064
Qoo is a mysterious alien who just happens to look like a young human female (what are the odds?). Kokoro is the significantly younger sister of a high school girl who might not even be 18 herself if it weren't for 'all characters are 18+'. Having characters look young is plenty common in anime and the like; the protagonist having sex with a girl in elementary school is an entirely different thing. JAST has cut obviously-underage characters before, even if they've left in really-700-year-old-vampire lolis. This in addition to not all of the sex being entirely consensual.

>>12795055
Dovac should really replace the screenshots with English ones before the actual release, this looks highly unprofessional.

>>12795068
Actually, there's a demo of the game you can use to criticize the translation. There has been ever since the kickstarter started.

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Literally no tweets. Scene is still ded.

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>>12796039
>Actually, there's a demo of the game you can use to criticize the translation.
Didn't you hear? Dovac (and friends) say that you can't use the demo to criticize the translation because it's not a demo of the final product and everything will be fixed in post.

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Why is it this thread is always promote MG social media shit then spend the next 10 posts blasting SP?
lol shills

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>>12796188
Because dovac is a shithead.

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>>12796188
sup dovac

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>>12796188

Cry more dovac.

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>>12796188

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>>12796188
Currently, Sekai Project is getting ready to start Grisaia, which despite what was said previously the Kickstarter is only for an all ages release. Additionally they are getting ready to release Nekopara, which the demo had a shit quality translation. There isn't much good to say about Dovac or Sekai Project right now.

MangaGamer on the other hand has been doing nice quality translations and hasn't done anything to upset the community recently.

That said, things can change, and Sekai Project setting up Denpasoft might be very interesting going forward. Especially now that we have confirmed multiple times that Dovac's beloved Kickstarter is viable for uncut VNs.

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>>12795715
/jp/ is probably the meanest board around, its made mostly of japanese speaking assholes that loves to circlejerk in an english speaking image board for whatever reason.

I wonder why they dont go to 2chan if they hate english speaking users that much.

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>>12796262
>why they dont go to 2chan
Plenty of reasons.
1. 2chan eroge board has less users than VN thread on /jp/ here. And 2ch uses shitty text-only software.
2. Reading Japanese and writing in Japanese are entirely different skills. I can express my thoughts in Japanese, but it takes quite a lot of time and effort and leaves me uneasy about possible mistakes or just looking gaijinppoi.

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>>12794769
>>Haramiko - Common + Hazuki partial patch released
Which one is Hazuki? Is she the tsundere?

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>>12796262
They are a vocal minority.
Things weren't like this a few years ago.

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>>12796208
>quality translations

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>>12796362
It's the same garbage that happened with the #swr channel and them taking over the touhou fightan game threads. They pretty much ruined any long term interest in the game.

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>>12796117
He's too busy working on DRACU RIOT to tweet. Get hyped, ded scene man.

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>>12796387
I thought it was because he's on holiday.

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>>12796375
It's an advanced form of shitposting. Instead of only shitting on the board, they target on topic materials and drive people away from it.

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>>12796390
Hasn't he been on holiday this whole time?

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>>12796402
I mean like holiday to another country. The one from Nov 21st is implying that.

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>>12796281
>1. 2chan eroge board has less users than VN thread on /jp/ here. And 2ch uses shitty text-only software.

But wouldnt be better in a place were you speak only japanese and dont deal with english users that annoys you that much?

>2. Reading Japanese and writing in Japanese are entirely different skills. I can express my thoughts in Japanese, but it takes quite a lot of time and effort and leaves me uneasy about possible mistakes or just looking gaijinppoi.

So they know a little of japanese and they think that gives them the right to be assholes? dammm.

>>12796362
Well it seems like they make the most of the board then.

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>>12796541
I'm not part of the moonreaders who complain in this thread, but you know, this goes for literally any language. If you spend all your time reading VNs, your japanese reading will improve. If you spend all your time watching raw anime and nicovideo streams, your listening will improve. If you spend all your time talking to japanese people through skype, your conversation (+ listening, obviously) will improve. That's not hard to comprehend.

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>>12794776
>Kara no Shoujo 2 - 63.37% translated, 22.1% edited
>Euphoria - 64.9% translated, 34.1% edited

God bless MangaGamer translating VN's that appeal to my depraved fetish's

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>>12796568
Learn how to create plural form, please.

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>>12796582

Nonono, you fool! You've fallen right into his trap! His fetish is triggering grammar Nazi's!!

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>>12796622
This has nothing to do with being a nazi. This is about him writing like someone who dropped out of elementary school.

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>>12796622
>Nazi's

Found the culprit.

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>>12796262
>its made mostly of japanese speaking assholes

Uh, no. The majority of the people on this board cannot speak any Japanese.

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>>12796541
Better than being Filthy EOP scum like you who only suck translator dick for shitty translation.

2chan is eroge board is dead while 2ch is quite crowded but as other anon said it use text only shit and they will know you're gaijin because your ID will show it if you post outside Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

The most filthy thread in this board.

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>>12796656

And there the joke goes, whooshing on by.

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>>12796375
How long ago was this?

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone please translate this for me? I don't think this is English.

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>>12795315
>good
I don't think that anon seriously thought it was good. At least I hope not.

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>>12795232
No 18+ version and making it so late after the anime debut that no one who hasn't already read it gives a shit anymore. Day one pirate, thanks for nothing Dovac

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>>12796803
Wait no 18+ version? I thought it was just going to be released after the All ages ones. Did I miss something?

[Anonymous No.]

The most out of place thread in this board.

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>>12796835
Out of curiosity why do you bump the thread so much?

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>>12796832
An 18+ version is planned to be released after the original release, however as things stand there is little reason for people looking for the 18+ version to contribute to the Kickstarter. Koestl said they are trying to work out some sort of deal where those who contribute to the Kickstarter can get either a free or heavily discounted version of the uncut title when it is released later, however it does not appear like this will be settled before the Kickstarter starts tomorrow night.

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>>12796787
It's a foreigner speaking, so of course it's bad grammar.

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>>12796849
And thanks to this, Sekai Project and Frontwing shall make a good deal less money than they would have with just going through with the original plan of offering a choice, even though they likely will still reach their goal. It seems like a poor business decision all around.

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>>12796832
You missed how people are idiots and how bad news spreads a lot easier than good news. Add to that the fact that 'DOVAC BETRAYS US ALL, 18+ VERSION CANNED FOREVER' fits the 'Sekai is evil' narrative better, and there's gonna be tons of people everywhere thinking that there's not gonna be an 18+ version at all. I've already had to correct people on this elsewhere.

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>>12796849
>Koestl said they are trying to work out some sort of deal where those who contribute to the Kickstarter can get either a free or heavily discounted version of the uncut title when it is released later

With the most recent news on the issue, it seems very unlikely that anything is going to come of this (the idea has probably already been shot down). Front Wing demands complete separation, and that makes a deal like this impossible.

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>>12796894
I personally don't exactly feel comfortable with a situation being "someday an 18+ version will be released", especially after Frontwing has already made Sekai Project alter the Kickstarter to remove the uncut release. More importantly though from a funding perspective, I wouldn't want to contribute to the Kickstarter as it stands now with just a vague "people who contribute to the Kickstarter might get a discount or free version of the uncut title later". This is really something they should have hammered out the details of before the Kickstarter goes live.

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>>12796894
The situation is pretty shitty for people who want the 18+ version though. They can either contribute to the kickstarter and effectively buy the same game twice (>>12796910 debunked the free/discount idea) or not contribute to it and hope there are enough people who are ok with the all-ages version to fund it so there will be an 18+ version at some uncertain point in the future. I think for many people neither option is a good one.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys vastly overestimate the intelligence and awareness of the average Kickstarter and/or Western VN buyer fan.

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>>12797009
This.

You should have a look at the response when people posted the shit translations to SP's forum. People immediately started defending them, and then after Dovac said it was rushed, even the few people who thought that the shit did indeed looked like shit immediately said "If you say it'll be high quality, I trust that you'll fix everything."

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>>12797009
The lack of an uncut release will certainty knock some off the total (especially since the fanTL made many people aware of an uncut release). But yes, for that reason Grisaia will still almost certainty still be funded, even if it's at a lower total than it could have achieved.

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>>12796877
I'm unable to understand why this medium seems to barely have (if it has any) people on the industry calling the shots that actually do proper research about the market they want to sell their products. This seems to be the case to pretty much all commercial releases of VNs.

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>>12797031
>>12797024
They easily funded that piece of shit doujin game that even Japan hated with a Kickstarter that was literally full of lies.

People have actually heard of Grisaia and it's the one SP game that doesn't have a chimpanzee translating it.

[Anonymous No.]

Please remember to sage the thread as often as possible so we don't get any angry autistic people in here.

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>>12797061
This thread is full of angry autistic people nearly every week. I don't think bumping or saging affects that in any way.

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>>12797009
All you have to do is correctly appeal to emotion I mean just look at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1300298569/under-the-dog
As long as you go round saying shit like "Anime is dead, this isn't any of that moe harem junk, we're different and mature" you'll get funded by masses of retards thinking they're saving the industry and so on.

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>>12797255
>under-the-dog
Maybe they funded it thinking it was a bestiality porno. Just to spite JAST.

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>>12797055
Yes, the general opinion here isn't that it won't be funded, but rather the final total on the Kickstarter will be a good deal less than it otherwise might have been. It only needs $160k, Clannad is at $290k and will finish a good deal higher than that, WEE got $100k, and WAS got $60k as a doujin game no one has ever heard of. The lack of and uncut option will not keep Grisaia from reaching $160k, however it will knock off a bunch from the final total as a combination of weaker (and negative) word of mouth by those who would be most vocal and those withholding contributions because of the lack of an uncut release.

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>>12797053
I'm pretty sure at least Peter Payne does proper research. The problem is that /jp/ expects market research to point out they should cater to /jp/, while in fact catering to /jp/ is not commercially viable and should only be done to keep them relevant among hardcore VN fans (because of the influence we have on newbies) or if it can be done while releasing a product that's also commercially viable by itself (see: Saya no Uta, Steins;Gate).

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>>12797282
Agreed no 18+ version no sell. Didn't they learn anything from moenovel?

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What are some good translation groups?

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>>12797411
Koestl is a pretty good translation group. So is Makoto. Moogy is a terrible group, though, stay away from them.

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>>12796787
That's not even hard to read. You are retarded.

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>>12796686
>THAT BACKPEDDLING

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>>12796787
I wouldn't pay money for that, but I've seen translations much worse.

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>>12796793
Uh, the only real problem with it is "come." So, I don't know why you hope not.

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>>12797255
While I'm not denying that people use that excuse a lot, this one isn't criticizing other genres of anime. It's just criticizing the industry for being poorly set up, which is true. It's just about the business and shit, go watch Shirobako, you'll see.

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>>12797425
I'm not sure about Makoto. I mean, have you seen >>12795427? I wouldn't trust a rapist.

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>>12797445
Except that's right.

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>>12797456
>I know everything about the business because I watched some shit animu

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>>12797462
Rapists are more trustworthy than Dovac.

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>>12797282
I think you don't seem to understand the vocal minority means shit and are ignored constantly.

Welcome to the adult lyfe.

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>>12797456
Shirobako hasn't dealt with any issues related to the industry that could even remotely apply here. Using a kickstarter to fund something that could be funded through other sources just to get more money and then blaming it on the "moeshit boogeyman" that westerner nostalgiafags seem to love and claiming to be the next GitS. Then again I guess that might have just their marketing spin to get the funding from those people.

That aside of course it's going to be hard to get funded for an original project because there's a chance it will flop due to no existing consumers, the only way I could excuse the kickstarter would be if they were aiming for stupidly high budget/OVA levels of quality like I assume this is. That's not a problem with the industry in the slightest, it's the way the business world works.

[Anonymous No.]

Between Frontwing demanding that the all age Grisaia and the +18 be completely separated like that and them going to town with copyright claims on youtube, my opinion of them has pretty much fallen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797516
Sekai Project at the very least believes there is enough interest in 18+ titles that they have opened DenpaSoft. Furthermore, the fact that there is an uncut release in this case is relatively well know due to the large amount of players of the fanTL (a quick look shows 22k downloads on the Fuwanovel torrent, and a separate 21k downloads for the video patch that TLWiki put out, plus whatever you have from DDL sites and those who didn't download the video patch), and a sizable amount of interest from the Kickstarter is likely to be individuals who played the fanTL and want the rest of the trilogy.

Individual members associated with the translation team for Grisaia have expressed concern about the Kickstarter reaching it's goal as a result of Frontwing forcing them to keep the releases separate, although their concerns are probably overblown considering the success Sekai Project has had elsewhere. There is reason to believe that they should have no problem reaching their goal, but being force to backtrack and go with an all ages only release through Kickstarter is going to dampen how much they exceed their goal by, and it's not just by some trivial amount of vocal individuals.

It's also worth noting that press when the Kickstarter goes live will likely address the lack of an uncut release as well even if they wouldn't normally, because all the press when the prefundia went up noted that they were doing a dual all ages and 18+ release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797403
>Didn't they learn anything from moenovel?

Yeah, they learned that unless they appease you guys with an 18+ version, you will hate them and spread negativity about them to make them lose customers.

Which is, of course, total bullshit because they are releasing an 18+ version now and you guys are still hating on them and spreading negativity, turning potential customers away from them.

The real lesson to be learned here is that they should just ignore you guys because you guys will never be satisfied anyways (and you don't even buy anything yourselves).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797611
Is ironic Doorvac posting all these threads are going to be now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797611
>Which is, of course, total bullshit because they are releasing an 18+ version now

This isn't actually confirmed at all. They want to do the 18+ version, but when/if it will happen is still up in the air. Frontwing seems to be jerking them around a lot. What if they just decide they don't want the 18+ version being released in the US period? What about people who back the KS under the presumption that they'll get a free/discounted 18+ version later should something like that happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797611
>they are releasing an 18+ version now
There has been no official confirmation of that. You should know that better than anyone, Dovac.

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>>12797611
Sekai Project is viewed generally unfavorable here and in a couple other small pockets that truly don't matter, and that is largely because Dovac tends to get personally combative to criticism of any type. He keeps it separate enough from Sekai Project though so it does not influence the broader opinion of Sekai Project which has thus far been largely positive. Moenovel on the other hand is pretty much hated everywhere as a result of the actions the company has taken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797611
Sekai Project is viewed generally unfavorable here and in a couple other small pockets that truly don't matter, and that is largely because Dovac tends to get personally combative to criticism of any type. He keeps it separate enough from Sekai Project though so it does not influence the broader opinion of Sekai Project which has thus far been largely positive. That might change though if Dovac gets combative on something the broader public notices, or if he doesn't come through with the promise of an uncut Grisaia. It's stupid of him to promise anything from Frontwing in the future through considering how they are acting. Moenovel on the other hand is pretty much hated everywhere already as a result of the actions the company has taken with Konosora.

[Anonymous No.]

The most idiotic thread in this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797739
Agreed. EOPs should just go to reddit or Fuwa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797752
EOPs should just kill themselves

[Anonymous No.]

This thread existence is an eyesore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12794769
Reported for off topic

[Anonymous No.]

Kusosure

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck you jannie. Do your job and delete this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797796
Agreed. That VNTS tripfag should be perma ban too.

[Anonymous No.]

クソスレ

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>>12797623
You're right, they're setting up DenpaSoft just for the hell of it. Gotta use those extra kickstarter bucks on something!

>What about people who back the KS under the presumption that they'll get a free/discounted 18+ version later should something like that happen?

Then they are idiots (which is unfortunately not uncommon on Kickstarter). You can't assume things like that without any evidence for it (and no, koestl saying "we're gonna try to get some incentive" is not evidence for "you will get it for free if you back the KS").

>>12797628
Of course there's no confirmation from Sekai. That's because it's being published by DenpaSoft. And to keep Front Wing happy, DenpaSoft is totally not Sekai, so Sekai can't say anything about this totally unrelated company's plans, not without harming their relationship with Front Wing.

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>>12797920
I fully believe that Dovac intends to release Grisaia uncut through DenpaSoft, and I am interested in seeing what they do from the brand as Dovac seems more capable of getting big deal licenses from Japan and money from Western consumers than ManagGamer is. I am worried however that there will be problems from Frontwing in releasing uncut Grisaia, considering the situation the Kickstarter is in now. "We will release it later" is never encouraging, especially when they have already changed their mind once with regards to the Western release.

I agree people are idiots for assuming the free/ heavy discount, however if that does not happen, and Sekai Project says "we are working on it" up through the Kickstarter ends, then they look horrible to paying customers who become less likely to contribute in the future. That is why this should have been taken care of before the Kickstarter went live, and since it does not look like it will be, it needs to be taken care of before the Kickstarter ends or else they are looking at a potential major reputation problem with their backers going forward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797578
You are pretty damn retarded if you think downloads equate sales.

Are you part of the RIAA? Because that shitty logic is what they used when they made up numbers for piracy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797920
Even "Denpasoft" hasn't said anything about Grisaia on Twitter, and their website is blank at the moment. Presumably because the details haven't been worked out with Front Wing yet, but either way, there has been no official confirmation regarding 18+ Grisaia as yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797662
Nah it's basically a bunch of entitled pirates that feel their opinions matter. They think bitching in /jp/ gets shit done. Basically they are SJW for VN piracy?

Nah, sorry. That's not how companies work. People you hang out with don't relate actual figures. Being ignorant of the actual scope of a scene is mostly what happens when little kids try playing subject expert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797945
That wasn't equating downloads with sales at all, it was onlysaying plenty of people in the potential audience for the Grisaia Kickstarter are aware that Grisaia has porn because they played the porn version, so it hurts an attempt to sell an all ages version to an audience ignorant about it having porn, rather than only a vocal minority knowing.

This is opposed to a situation like Moenovel, where initially few of the potential audience knew anything about Konosora before they heard about it from Moenovel under the name If My Heart Had Wings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797953
I thought you said you weren't going to post on /jp/ anymore, Dovac?

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>>12797953
Why do you even post here if you don't think our opinion mattes, Dovac? Surely you could just ignore /jp/ if we're so insignificant?

You're not winning any friends, and you seem convinced that no one here was ever going to buy your games anyway (despite multiple people in these threads claiming they would), so what's the point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797943
>I agree people are idiots for assuming the free/ heavy discount, however if that does not happen, and Sekai Project says "we are working on it" up through the Kickstarter ends, then they look horrible to paying customers who become less likely to contribute in the future. That is why this should have been taken care of before the Kickstarter went live, and since it does not look like it will be, it needs to be taken care of before the Kickstarter ends or else they are looking at a potential major reputation problem with their backers going forward.

But Sekai never said anything about such a deal even being a possibility. Only koestl said there were talks about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797994
They did retweet him though. I'm guessing they can't say anything officially. Really would like them to clarify on that matter before the kickstarter starts

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797953
/jp/'s opinions do matter. Like it or not we're influential in shaping opinions throughout the English VN scene. We're the elite and our opinions trickle down to the pleb masses you find on reddit, vndb, /vg/, and Steam. We might pirate our shit but we control the popular thought and discourse in the circles where people purchase VNs.

We are the tastemakers and the king makers of this scene, don't underestimate us.

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>>12797994
Koestl has discussed it as an official voice on the project both on the official forums and the prefundia page. If it either doesn't go through, or Sekai Project doesn't say "the deal won't happen" before the Kickstarter ends, then people aren't going to care that technically only people working on the project talked about it, they would blame Sekai Project.

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>>12797953
The post you responded to basically said stuff here doesn't matter much to Sekai Project's sales. It was contrasting that to Moenovel, who has pissed off places that actually do matter to their bottom line, and saying Sekai Project needs to avoid that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798014
You'll have to cut him some slack. Dovac isn't very good at English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797472
That word is never right, no matter how it is spelled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798002
If they won't be able to get the deal, then they need to say so as soon as possible. They have a problem if people backing the kickstarter expecting a deal in the future, and it never comes. Of course if they can get the deal and say so explicitly soon, it helps them with Kickstarter.

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>>12798004
The wording in this post sounds kind of sarcastic but it's completely correct. Dovac is making a huge mistake by pretending /jp/ is irrelevant to the big picture, and it will ruin him in the end. And to be fair, he completely deserves it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798077
Looking it over again it does sound sarcastic, but it wasn't meant to be. I just didn't feel like mincing words given the post I was responding to was already so vitriolic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798100
Fighting fire with fire, I like your style.

[Anonymous No.]

>All of this 18+ Grisaia BS.

Last time i checked the trilogy wasnt exactly known for this. Seryously if sex scenes are so important why dont buy a nukige?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798386
Exactly if only all VNs could be as good as Supipara, Grisaia doesn't even only cut out the H-Scenes as much as Sekai "Want to" not change the text considering they're getting forced to do so much by Frontwing already it would be stupid to think they would be allowed to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798386
Sex scenes are not the problem, all-ages version also censure the plot of some routes by removing content considered offensive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12796362
It's because everyone left when /vg/ was made.
It wasn't like this before everyone left. And wouldn't be like this unless everyone interested in VNs and Doujins would be avoiding /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798579
Partly I guess, I see it more as people just started shitting on these threads more because /vg/ got their own thread and /jp/ culture is to hate on other boards because we're so much better. Just look how everyone will shit on popular VN series as soon as they become more mainstream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798579
You'd think that /jp/sies would be too proud to leave for greener pastures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798770
The people who left went from a dedicated vn and doujin board, to being relegated to a single thread on a board of nothing but endless chain threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798579
Looking at the VN thread on /vg/ we're better off without anyone who left us for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798579
Does the /vg/ thread not hate Dovac and care about quality translations? I would assume the opinions in our threads would trickle down to them.

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>>12799117
I don't know, I lurk on /a/ and /v/ just to keep up to date with news but most of them seemed pretty hyped up for the kickstarter even without the porn. The majority of people in general don't seem to care the slightest about translation quality unless it's completely incomprehensible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12799117
/vn/ was taken over by the shitposters a long time ago, and most of them think it's hilarious to defend shitty translations, even machine translations. Especially Ti9, who spends all day spamming reposts and shitposting. There's nothing of value left there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797282
It's quite likely they may even have it funded within 24 hours of it going up, the initial drive is likely to be quite impressive. But still, they will lose a meaningful amount of buyers because of the lack of an uncut release.

[Anonymous No.]

Happy Birthday Meiya!

[Anonymous No.]

Finally, Sekai Project has actually released something new. Time to support the industry by pirating it. Eat shit, Dovac.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12799788
If you're going to post something by the shittiest artist age has ever had please consider marking your image as a spoiler in the future to avoid giving anyone eye cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12799820
What are you talking about? That image was not drawn by their original artist.

[Anonymous No.]

Are the Muv Luv Chronicles worth reading?
schwarzesmarken worth looking to in advanced of the 2015 release?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12799824
Baka Ouji Persia actually improved significantly inbetween KimiIta and KimiNozo and in the years since.
Which is more than can be said for Makishima Azusa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12799851
Aside from the style where everyone has noodle necks and Key faces, it all looks the same to me. Muv-Luv fans just seem to have very arbitrary tastes when it comes to art, probably because the millions of hours of time investment that the series requires has driven them insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12799817
hi mg

[Anonymous No.]

Steins;Gate looks like it's going to be released on console in the West by PQube.

And yet Jast still can't get it on Steam.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800226
According to the Steins;Gate translator about the announcement

>Full disclosure, I knew nothing about this. No idea if they're using the jastusa translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12799117
ROFL, nobody gives a shit what /jp/ thinks, son.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12798770
/jp/ pride died sometime in the last few years when the whole board went to complete shit.

>>12800253
I presume you came here to laugh at us.

[Anonymous No.]

From Sekai Project's twitter

>There will be a delay to the start of the Grisaia campaign. Please check back tomorrow when we have more information.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800279
Lol wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800279
Achievement "Lie about start date" unlocked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800209
Fuck off, Dovac.

[Anonymous No.]

Any recs for a branching VN with tomboys and other brotastic qualities?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800279
Either it's sorting out the potential discount/free uncut release for backers, or Frontwing is jerking Sekai Project around again. I doubt Dovac wants to wait any longer before putting the Kickstarter up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800339
Why not just play an otome game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800279
professional clowns

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800349

Sounds like more Frontwing jerking them around.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like this may be on Frontwing from how I am interpreting Koestl tweet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800279
>>12800349
Koestl
>not gonna lie, starting to get a little bit sick of getting jerked around constantly

Dovac
>it's just a little frustrating lately
and
>guess I'll put away all the redbulls I was going to drink tonight

Herkz
>Don't worry, I'm sure the Grisaia Kickstarter will start sometime this... millennium!


So yeah, looks like it's Frontwing jerking them around again. It's a good thing Frontwing doesn't have anything else worth bringing over after Grisaia.

[Anonymous No.]

I really want to hear frontwing's logic behind this shit. I really want to know what is their problem this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800369

I honestly don't understand why frontwing would try to fuck with things. Does SP not have someone on the team that speaks enough Japanese to convey that this makes both companies look massively incompetent and assholeish? Has Koestl tried talking to them? Explaining that sudden, unexplained dicking around (like with release dates and prices) is liable to cause them to fail? (We're operating under the assumption that frontwing -actually- wants to release Grisaia).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800354
Well, I like choosing girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800392
If koestl and the tlwiki guys are complaining about it publicly on twitter, it's probably well past that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800402
Boys are basically the same thing as girls anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797662


This Kickstarter delay example is a good example of how this can work the other way. Those on here following this believe that it is Frontwing at fault for this last minute delay, and while we might still joke about Dovac for his current predicament or say how Dovac needs to be careful with information he puts out from Frontwing, we realize those at Frontwing are being assholes. A broader audience however just sees Sekai Project delaying something and blames Sekai Project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800392
judging from their translations I doubt anyone in sekai project knows japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Koestl I know you are in here. Give us some info man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800392
Maybe they don't want the 18+ version to be released at all and their ridiculous demands were just a polite way to say no. Back in the day it was theorized that the $1 million in license costs for Kanon was proposed for the same reason; so they could decline without actually saying 'no'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797611
Sudden bullshit like this out of Frontwing is why we are worried about the claim of "an uncut release will come out later"

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800424
If koestl had any info, I'm sure he'd either
a) post it on his twitter;
b) say it in #tlwiki; or
c) not be allowed to talk about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800430
Yes, I know that.

[Anonymous No.]

By the way, his name is "Koes". The TL stands for "trans lator."

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800436
By the way, what is the ac in dovac?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800438
Asshole company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800438
"another cuck" of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12797285
Well, that wasn't exactly what I was getting at but I can address this from my point of view if you want to discuss it.

What I meant in my first post is mainly related to the target audience for a specific VN, either nukige or story-driven.

JAST actually seems to have a decent marketing because I see their adds here on 4chan all the time and for example, right now j-list features Little Witch Romanesque. However, it's possible to improve further than this.

MG is a terrible example of marketing. They continue to provide products for an already established audience and they simply don't give the impression of trying to expand it. Not to mention the image they already have due the enormous nukige catalogue they have and having them constantly on their top-sales. It's not much of a surprise to see their story-driven titles not doing so well. MG expects people that find the company for the first time to not only be informed about the titles being sold but to also see beyond the porn that is painfully obvious on the site main page. Not many people can do that and that's why, as they they, they're slowly growing.

SP is getting attention because of kickstarter.

Moenovel isn't even worth talking about. They just had a few interviews when they first appeared and nothing more.

---

The VN a company localizes being popular is surely something that will generate more attention. However, I believe that even if a non-popular VN is localized and actually marketed well, it'll see success. As proof, check the WAS kickstarter. While it's true that the marketing for it was weak, due to kickstarter it almost got 60K of support.

I really hope to see the day when high-profiles are announced to an english audience and actually get the treatment and attention they deserve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800392
You remember this pic? Also, from what I've seen on #tlwiki, the guy dealing with FrontWing is also japanese, isn't trying at all to show SP's side, and basically says FrontWing won't give them the license if they won't do as they're told

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800455
>They continue to provide products for an already established audience and they simply don't give the impression of trying to expand it.

Then why did they bother licensing a BL game, an otome game and cut a deal with Liar-Soft?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800455

Sage your fucking posts asshole, or go back to whatever shithole you came from where threads only last 5 seconds without being bumped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800460
>Then why did they bother licensing a BL game, an otome game and cut a deal with Liar-Soft?
That's not the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800469

I'm not really sure how licensing games targeted at a drastically different audience than their established nukige base doesn't qualify as "traying to expand [their audience]."

Whatever they're doing with NTY is clearly working. Doddler said it was their most popular demo download by a long shot just on the first weekend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800483
Sage your fucking post. How is this hard for you people? I don't care where you are from just sage your post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800483
What they're "doing" basically amounts to Good_Haro spamming it on Tumblr and shit. Marketing, in other words, which is something new for MG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800488

but muh sekrit club :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800483
Because such games need be marketed to said audiences which is exactly the point I'm getting at. Gahkthun by itself will generate attention to other audiences but if MG doesn't market it, the title won't even be heard by many other people that are probably into anime or other otaku stuff.
You shouldn't expect people to get to you. It's you who should go after them.

I wasn't considering NTY on my post beause it's an entirely different genre but MG marketing of it is clearly lacking (just twitter and tumblr afaik). What got NTY demo so many downloads was the word of mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800520
>MG marketing of it is clearly lacking (just twitter and tumblr afaik(

Where do you expect them to market porn games? Aside from buying copious ads on 4chan JAST doesn't do shit and Sekai's only other avenue of marketing is Kickstarter and MG isn't running any.

I'm not sure why you're excluding NTY from your assessment considering it's been one of their clearest attempts at grabbing for a new audience and marketing more. They practically set up a tumblr just to approach the BL and otome audiences. If that's not 'going after' an audience, I'm not sure what is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800456
Hard to trust the words of someone who uses "I'll give you that" in such a stupid way. He probably has no fucking idea what's going on since he's not great at any language.

[koestl !!poJpHap55vo No.]

>>12800520
NTY is kind of "easier" to market because it's got that defined BL demographic to go after... I'm not sure how to shill for Gahkthun because it has some cross-gender appeal and isn't really easy to summarize.

>>12800430
I legitimately have no idea what's going on with Grisaia at this point and it's pretty frustrating. I hope this is a very brief delay.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't see why everyone's getting mad at Frontwing when this is still Sekai Project's fault. They were so eager to declare that they had a popular VN series and dickwave about it that they didn't bother waiting for the details to be hammered out before making their announcement. This is what people mean when they call SP unprofessional. Companies usually wait for negotiations to be finalized before announcing things publicly. This situation shows why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800541
>Where do you expect them to market porn games?
I don't feel I'm qualified enough to confidently answer this question but IQDB comes to mind, J-list (although there is JAST so I'm not sure if this is possible), sites similar to sankaku complex (on this note I remember seeing years ago MG being mentioned by them) and maybe other niche sites that I don't know about.

>why you're excluding NTY from your assessment
Let me clarify that the "audience" I was talking about refers to people that enjoy "straight" VNs. My apologies for the incorrect wording.
NTY has its fan-base and I hope to see MG success with its release but since the game is of an entirely different genre, I suppose it won't affect how much "straight" titles will sell. That's the reason why I didn't mention it.

So that I make it clear, when I said "expand the audience" what I had in mind was to increase the number of people aware that a certain "straight" title (Koihime Musou, KnS, Ef) is available in english. I'm not arguing about the audience for different genres.

[Anonymous No.]

>be Jast
>announce game up for preorder with no date
>put up date
>day before release, change date
>SP's bullshit hides all your bullshit
>champagne and whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800581

Can you talk to them? Explain that this makes both SP and frontwing look like giant incompetent assholes? I understand that gaijin are the scum of the earth in their eyes, but do they honestly hate money so much that they'd prefer to sink all your efforts rather than stick with what they've committed to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800640

MG does sell on J-list already though (I think you have a pretty confused idea of what marketing is if you think they're fucking up for not /marketing/ on J-list).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800645
Wait, they changed the release date? I was hoping to pick it up tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800645
They are definitely not getting enough hate for what they are doing with Starless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800692
Now you can enjoy it on December 23rd. Two days before Christmas is the best day to release a loli fucking dating sim.

[Anonymous No.]

After playing through fault, I actually kind of liked it...

D-Do I have to turn in my /jp/ card now?

[Anonymous No.]

http://sekaiproject.tumblr.com/post/105295930116/ive-seen-alot-of-people-ask-about-white-album-2
This "SM" guy is more retarded than dovac, and he's cofounder and main translator (he done NekoPara). No wonder they have such problems with frontwing, I bet he just mistranslated info frontwing provided.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800720
That's YukkuriS, the guy who was fired from MG for translating an incest nukige so badly that it didn't meet incest nukige standards.

[Anonymous No.]

daily reminder youre here because you cant learn japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Daily reminder that we're all shills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800720
Why is WA2 so popular among EOPs? The anime only covered IC and I heard it was shit. Is it just because it's highly rated by Japan?

>Even if WA1 doesn’t have much to do with WA2, I think it would be a disservice to the franchise to just discard it on that basis.
Yeah, this guy is a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

Which of these should I be looking forward to the most?

Aside from the Higurashi retranslation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800767
What cesspool did you come from? Go ask /vn/ on /vg/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800767

The gay one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800765
>among EOPs
WA2 is one of highest-rated games on EGS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800776
The difference is that they've played it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800779
Ehhhhh. I know you're trolling, but WA2 was kind of infamous for spamming stealth marketing on EGS on its release really fucking hard.

Not saying that a lot aren't real too, but for a week or two after its release, WA2 was setting records for brand new accounts made just to give it 95+s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800784
This is true. It's also true that it's a good game, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800706
You can exchange your neo-/jp/ card for a classic /jp/ card, we used to love doujin games (not like we had much else). You'll have to refrain from shitposting, accepting imagedump threads, using off-board memes, condensing your threads and hating on translators, though, or it'll be revoked immediately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800784
How the hell am I trolling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800810
You're a shitposter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800693
I think it's because nobody gives a fuck about Starless, it's a bad game. Grisaia, meanwhile, is a good game, so of course people are more angry at Sekai Project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800832
And LWR?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800765
I've heard nothing but good things about the WA2 anime. When you actually adapt a short VN into a short anime instead of trying to cram a 50 hour monstrosity into 13 episodes, things go well, believe it or not. Now if only this happened with more VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800833
What LWR has to do anything with Starless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800833
Nobody minds because fans of Littlewitch are calm and patient people. And Aroduc already fucked us in the ass once already so JAST can't exactly do worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800837
>I've heard nothing but good things about the WA2 anime
You read nothing but AnimeSuki?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800843
Did you just admit to reading AnimeSuki?

DID YOU JUST

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800837
>When you actually adapt a short VN into a short anime instead of trying to cram a 50 hour monstrosity into 13 episodes
They didn't do this, you fucking imbecile. They adapted the Introductory Chapter, which is like the prologue. There are no routes and it's about 10 hours long to start with.

And the adaptation was unanimated, uninspired shit on a flapjack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800845
I can't imagine anybody but those shitheads thinking the WA2 anime was good, because what don't they shit themselves over?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800847
Did you even read the post before grunting like a monkey? That's what I said, they adapted IC, a short VN, into a short anime. And you're pretty much the only one who didn't like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800851
Are you faulting people for actually enjoying things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800832
I think it's also the fact that the things getting censored are scat, bestiality and penises being cut (as opposed to vanilla porn for Grisaia). Though a lot of people say they're against all kinds of censorship, most don't seem to really mind when the stuff being censored is stuff they dislike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800854
It's like calling the common route of a game a short VN, you retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800857
Wait, you mean to say we're actually allowed to enjoy things on here? Since when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800859
Except IC and CC are separate games, sold separately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800857
If people enjoy wallowing in garbage, they deserve to be mocked for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800866
You're on 4chan in /jp/ mocking people about liking shit? I don't think you understand where you stand in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800870
Go back to shitposting on /vn/, Ti9

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800874
Classic Ti9, accusing others of being himself.

[Anonymous No.]

Did Romanesque just get pushed back to the 23rd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800907
https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/544698808509014016

Yup.

[Anonymous No.]

Tokimeki Memorial when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800918
Why is the digital release being delayed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800927
It's JAST. Do they really need a reason? The reason is JAST.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Romanesque even going to be sold in hard copies, or is just going to be manga gamer and we have to wait a few years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800765
Sekai Project doing White Album 2?

No. No NO NONONO. Dovac would ruin it hard, he'd be worse than the guys at Baka Tsuki (he'd probably hire them for fuck's sake).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800918
Goddammit

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800938
>(he'd probably hire them for fuck's sake)
I kek'd because it's true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800922
Never.

>>12800933
Assuming it will be released at all (even a day---I mean week before release I don't trust JAST to release it until it's out), yes, it will be in hardcopy form, as with all of JAST's games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800842
>Aroduc already fucked us in the ass once already
When?

[Anonymous No.]

does anybody have an idea as to who picked up eiyuu senki? tentatively excited for this.
>inb4 project gets dropped at ~25%

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801001
Have you tried using Google, fuckface?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801001
Didn't they get a C&D and dropped it already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801005
That was the group that machine translated Rance 01 and 02, then 'lost' their translator, and after Eiyuu Senki sat for a few months with no work done but a Hongfire interface patch, claimed to get a C&D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801002
i can't believe i forgot to ggrks; it's on tlwiki too
apologies for being an idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800980
It always surprised me that Tokimeki Memorial is considered pretty much the most classic dating sim ever and none of the main games have even had a real attempt at a translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801001
>>12801005
It was licensed officially by Fruitbat Factory, retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12794769
>Hanahira - fully translated, being finalized
The only reason I was going to read this VN was to practice my Japanese but now there's no real point, is there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800989
The Kickstarter incident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801017
Depends. It's 'translated' by the same guy who wrote a fanfiction conspiracy theory treatise about Cross Channel and then translated it extremely badly based on his own fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801017
If your reason for reading a yuri VN is not to appreciate the yuri awesomeness, then of course there's not a point. You shouldn't have even been considering it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801018
How were you fucked by nothing happening?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801020
Yeah but Hanahira is supposed to be the easiest VN there is. I doubt even Georgeyboy can fuck it up that much.

Also I'm not sure how you go from Cross Channel to Hanahira of all fucking things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801020
I like the guy. Never understood the bad rap. If you'd read the treatise you'd realize he's actually right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801022
>yuri awesomeness

Yeah I'm not a yurifag and I think yurifags should be holocausted. >>>/u/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801023
It almost happened and got all our hopes up, and then it didn't. Much like sexual intercourse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801024
He was fucking up easy lines in C+C.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801026
Then what the fuck? Stop getting antsy about a yuri VN. It was never for your pleb eyes anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801031
Why are yurifags so hostile and confronting? This is why nobody likes you. >>>/u/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801037
There's no point being anything but hostile and confronting to you when you fired the first shot, and so aggressively at that. It's strange to me how forceful you guys are too, but I guess what this means is that the rampant homophobia on this site isn't exclusive to male on male stuff. At least you're not inconsistent.

Amusingly enough, the captcha just told me to select all roses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801026
>Yeah I'm not a yurifag and I think yurifags should be holocausted. >>>/u/
Then don't read yuri games, you fucking retard. Christ.

[Anonymous No.]

man this is all the fun of the MG staff channels but without any of the nicknames

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801051
>There's no point being anything but hostile and confronting to you when you fired the first shot, and so aggressively at that.
You wot.
>>12801022
>HURR HOW DARE YOU READ MY PRECIOUS YURI VNS TO LEARN JAPANESE. THESE ARE YURIFAG ONLY VNS YOU SHOULD ONLY READ THEM FOR YURI.
Just kill yourself you oxygen thief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800392
This doesn't make sense? You aren't on the stockmarket, you aren't even in the games market. Why do you think quarters matter to groups that release shit as they please?
I think you need to check your imaginary marketing degree at the door.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801137
>You wot.
Yes, you actually did fire the first shot. You said that all yurifags should be "holocausted." Sounds pretty hostile to me.

>>12801137
>Just kill yourself you oxygen thief.
If you have to rewrite other people's posts to make them sound stupid you should probably commit suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801022
Its not yuri VN, its all-ages shit without plot or characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801162
>You said that all yurifags should be "holocausted." Sounds pretty hostile to me.
Only because you felt the need to suggest that m-muh pure yuri VNs should only be read by yuri fans and not people that want to practice their Japanese. That grounds for holocausting in my opinion, genocides have happened for less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801173
You can't even keep track of who's who in this conversation, no wonder you're dumb enough to think your idiotic comment about holocausting wasn't what started this. You clearly have some deep-seated problems, to be lashing out at people just because their minds aren't closed like yours is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801083
Good grief, Dovac, at least try to keep up with the discussion if you're going to attempt to make vaguely condescending posts that accomplish little more than giving you a false sense of self-satisfaction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801173
He said you shouldn't play yuri games if you're not a yuri fan. Oh no, shots fired? Maybe? Kind of? Why do you even care? It's just advice.

But I'm pretty sure shouldn't play yuri games if you think yurifags should be "holocausted." I don't ask about bara games and then complain about how faggots should all be killed because that would be completely retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801223
>lashing out at people just because their minds aren't closed like yours is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801243
Well now that we know you came to shitpost it all makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801245
Look faggot, I'm going to read as many yuri VNs as I like and you can't stop me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801251
Considering your liberal use of that word, you've clearly already stopped yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801314
Are you complaining about the word "faggot" on 4chan? Shouldn't you be posting on tumblr or reddit instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12799840
Parts of Chronicles are worth reading, depends on your individual tastes, Rain Dancers is probably my favourite of the short stories and stuff like the million Euro man isn't good but it's fun. The English translation for Chronicles 01 is really bad iirc though.

Schwarzesmarken is really good though, I don't think the LN translation is bad or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12800918
Why the fuck is the digital version delayed? Doesn't make sense to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801646
So it would not be pirated before physical releases ship.

[Anonymous No.]

Let us rejoice once more. Now it's for realz!

[Anonymous No.]

>Seinarukana- Fully translated, being tested and edited
Release in 2020 confirmed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801652
I don't see the point, people already paid anyway. The digital version is given to anyone who preordered the physical one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801659
There are usually more day one sales than preorders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801666
You wouldn't immediately get the fucking physical edition if you ordered it day one, you retarded moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801028
Underrated post

[Anonymous No.]

Stop posting about Grisaia. Don't support censored releases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801852
Did they pull the plug? Did Frontwing say you can't have the 18+ version?

[Anonymous No.]

http://sekaiproject.tumblr.com/post/105325183571/wait-is-the-support-guy-and-the-guy-who-worked-on
So YukkuriS worked on Fault too. Waiting impatiently for screenshots with results of his "management".

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801869

SM isn't YukkuriS: http://sekaiproject.tumblr.com/post/105229400386/first-of-all-a-great-big-thanks-to-everyone-who

The tumblr guy is probably the "Samuel Munson" listed there. YukkuriS is asian judging from the con videos someone linked last thread and probably ESL considering his TL quality, so I doubt he'd have such a westernized name.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the consensus on Fault anyway? Good VN? Good translation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801896
Translation is suppose to be decent from what Doddler and some other people said. Don't know if it is actually any good though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801904
Doddler never said it was decent. He said it "isn't too bad" compared to a Chinese Engrish VN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801915
Oh no I didn't use Doddler's exact words, my bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801919
Insem isn't too bad compared to Cudder is not the same as Insem isn't too bad. Don't try to bullshit and you won't get called out on it, Dovac.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801896
As much as I hate to admit it, it definitely is the first good translation from SP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801948
>>12801904
Dovac, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

Doddler was just trying to make a neutral statement, he had no intention of commenting on Fault Milestone One's translation at all. You guys shouldn't read into it so much. He was just trying to clear up a misunderstanding, obviously he has no interest in giving his opinion on the matter one way or another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801819
lol dovac got owned guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801948
Dovac why are still here? Where's the kickstarter?

[Anonymous No.]

>defending this

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802115
>The boy had no longer had the time to of affirm his own predicament.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801904
>>12801915
Why do people insist on trusting the opinions of people who don't know Japanese when it comes to translation quality? It's not like Doddler would have any idea whether it's a good translation or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802115
Is that game voiced?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802165
Personally I just assumed someone else at mangagamers read it and told him about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802183
>>12802165
If we're talking about Fault, probably. If we're talking about the Chinese VN...
>The shades gradually fade away, but the sun that supposes to appears is still missing

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802203
Supposedly a bunch of sentences still have words left in Chinese. That's how bad it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802212
啊

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802165
For some reason there are a lot of Doddler dickriders on /jp/. To them he's an infallible and all-knowing hero who will single-handedly save visual novels in the West.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802277
Compared to Dovac he's exactly that though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802280
Compared to Dovac, who isn't?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801333
Right, because acting like a rational human being means you must be from some other site. You're the one who needs to change your attitude instead of shooing people away just for thinking differently from you. The world is changing, get used to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802115
It's a fucking typo, man. It's not that big a deal. The rest reads alright. Maybe not perfect but I probably wouldn't bother to take offense to anything in particular unless I was actively trying to nitpick

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802165
If anything I trust the opinion of someone who doesn't know Japanese more than that of someone who does. A person who knows Japanese has absolutely no legitimate reason to give a fuck about a translation unless they worked on it, so I assume anyone who is actually fluent in the language and has something to say about it can't possibly be an unbiased source. They always have some bullshit agenda or another to push.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802732
Fuck off, Dovac.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801896
Good VN, but the translation is only acceptable because it's the only one out there. Sekai Project doesn't produce good work, but if you want to read the game in something resembling English it's a decent option to pirate. Not unlike NIS America's work.

We already know that all of their newly translated VNs are gonna be like this, and that they have no intention of fixing their errors despite Dovac trying to bullshit reddit about that, so the point is don't support Sekai Project if you want to support the industry. Go with MG or JAST instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802739
>if you don't blindly join in the irrational bashing of a product then you must be the person selling it or a paid shill

Man, keep that /v/-tier bullshit where it belongs please. I have no love for Dovac or his unethical business practices but I'm not going to go along with this retarded bullshit just to get some kind of revenge on the guy. Cherry picking a single obvious typo and going "shit translation confirmed" has always been retarded, no matter who is responsible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802751
Yeah, yeah, Ti9. Post one error and it's just one error. Post a few and you're cherry picking and its up for interpretation even when it's not. Post many and you're mad, have a vendetta, and driving off translators.

Same as Insem, Ixrec, Fuwanovel, Ludo, etc. Take it to /vn/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802778
Are you seriously trying to argue that finding a single error in a VN is enough to judge the entire translation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802751
This is a commercial release, obvious typos mean the product hasn't been proofread enough, this isn't a fantranslation where this is excusable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802785
Is the typo really the only thing wrong you can find in that passage? How about the uncapitalized sentence? What about the sentence with an extra space inexplicably in front of it? How about the shitty wording? How about the tense errors?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802799
in b4
>only ESLs care about correct grammar.

[Anonymous No.]

More proof Dovac is a scammer http://www.technologytell.com/gaming/139902/whats-going-winged-clouds-guardian-spell/

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802787
How many VN commercial releases have you seen before, exactly? Because from my experience the standard for quality control tends to be lower, not higher. It's a lot harder to catch everything when you have to deal with deadlines or possibly even pay the people working for you.

>>12802799
It was the only thing that would have jumped out at me and broken my immersion, were I not actively looking for errors. The rest is inoffensive enough, even if not perfect.

I think some of you guys expect too much from your translations sometimes. If you want a perfect experience then you shouldn't be reading translations at all. Even more so "professional" translations which historically have been even shittier than the fanmade ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802814
Yes. Text free from basic English errors is expecting too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802814
>At least we're not MG, Moenovel, or Jast. Those guys are shit.

Dovac pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802822
It honestly is. If by free you mean containing none at all, that is far too much to ask from these kinds of projects. Have you any idea what the budget and manpower for these things actually looks like? Maybe it will be reasonable when these games sell more than 2-3 digits worth of copies, but for now it is not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802829
Well what standard are you judging them by exactly? Which company are you comparing them to that would have done this so much better? Gonna need some specific names here if you really want to continue along these lines, because I honestly can't imagine any other of the names on the market right now having done this any better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802836
Okay, let's go with Jast.

Feel free to use anything they've released in the last two years. Have fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802833
Before we get down to "no errors at all," why don't we try to get the error count down to under 25% of the lines? That would be a good start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802847
Have they even done anything in-house in the past two years? It's mostly just been fan translations they acquired.
>>12802854
I hope you're not extrapolating your statistics here from a single screenshot. Do you even have the translated version? I don't think it's even been uploaded anywhere yet, has it? Did you pay for it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802859
>Have they even done anything in-house in the past two years? It's mostly just been fan translations they acquired.
This is different from SP how? And both Yumina and Osadai's fandisk were not ever fan translations. Besides that, S;G was redone from basically scratch and bears almost no resemblance to the fan patch. That's why it was so delayed, because the original translation was so bad. Saya is the only one that 100% falls under that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802872
I guess Yumina counts, though I don't think it was exactly error-free either. Can't really say whether it was better or worse than this game yet since I'm still waiting on somebody to upload it.

[Anonymous No.]

Look guys. Just because it's really easy to find major problems in all of SP's translations, that doesn't mean everything not posted isn't 100% awesome. It's like the first bite of a hamburger having a cockroach in it. The rest of the hamburger is probably perfect and all the other food in the restaurant is great. Just because you ate one cockroach doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802878
I'm sure it wasn't error free. Few things are.

But if you have to go hunting for them instead of having great clusterfucks of them like here, it's already far ahead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802880
Exactly, people act so entitled nowadays. If the translation is apparently that bad I'd like to see them do better job of it. I mean besides even a bad translation is better than none, people should just be happy there's something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802880
But that wasn't the first segment of the game. A better analogy would be if you ate twenty hamburgers, and then come back and tell me about nothing but the one that you found a cockroach in. I mean yeah, it's disgusting, but it tells me nothing of the other 19 burgers. Why not show some randomly selected screenshots instead of something so obviously cherry picked?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802886
It's one screenshot. I've seen nothing to indicate that the entire rest of the text reads similarly. I mean hell, maybe it does, but I don't like how fast you guys jump to conclusions. At least show me some different screenshots, and not ones that seem like they were picked specifically to illustrate errors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802895
>>12802894
Ti9 please

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802898
>>12802895
>>12802894
>this is shit
>oh yeah? prove it.
>here is an example of how it is shit
>ur cherry picking. post entire game for proof or shut up

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802899
Do you seriously think replies like this do anything to advance the discussion? Holy shit dude, it's like pulling teeth just trying to have a discussion with you. If you have a specific complaint with what I said then bring up your complaint. These posts with nothing but a buzzword or personal attack are pointless as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802907
The proof provided was insufficient for me to judge the translation quality of a game I still have not had the opportunity to play. A single screenshot is just not good enough, man. Couldn't you at least post a transcript of 50-60 lines so I can actually get a feel for the text?

[Anonymous No.]

Who is this Ti9 guy?

>>12802898
That screenshot showed multiple errors over something like 10 lines of text. Do you think the next 10 lines aren't going to be just as bad? It would only be cherry picking if there were only a couple typos splattered throughout the game, but across those lines there are blatant English issues. Its very obvious that no one ever went over the script. I am so confused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802909
That's great, Ti9.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802937
>Who is this Ti9 guy?
Shitposter who mostly trolls /vn/, but also comes here or goes to /a/ or /lit/ to shitpost about VNs. Besides spamming reposts and threadly doses, his favorite thing to do is defend awful standards by calling people entitled and cherry pickers.

[Dovac !Ti9jZASPIc No.]

You guys are a bunch of fuckin' shitheads. I don't see you people translating VNs! It's like you want the English VN industry to die. Fucking entitled ass niggers the lot of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802915

Surely you mean qualitty.

[Dovac !Ti9jZASPIc No.]

>>12802984
That was already fixed you shitty retard. It's probably just because you're playing a pirated version it's not on yours. Stop illegally obtaining your games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802984
Imagine how any half confident kickstarter feels about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801654
It probably won't take much longer than Clannad to reach it's initial goal, likely the initial rush will get it there or at least close, though the lack of an uncut release will likely keep it down somewhat.

They really should have figured out what to do with the uncut vs all ages release prior to beginning the kickstarter, although they might be waiting for data (between backer comments and amount of sales) before committing to do a deal for the uncut release for backers.

[Anonymous No.]

http://tenka.seiha.org/2014/12/the-hits-keep-coming/
>Not to celebrate Festivus’s Airing of Grievances early, but ‘going corporate’ has not been a fantastic experience. I don’t know why Jast never asked me to do any promotional materials or a demo. They asked me to make a demo for Seinarukana, nine months ago. I don’t know why they tried to advertise it using the image from an entirely different game. I don’t know why Jast never gave me the promotional/packaging/manual materials to look over so I could point out misspellings and errors. I don’t know how they could create a brand new site and forget to actually link to the game for weeks. I don’t know why they chose to advertise it by ignoring the strengths and zeroing in on panty shots and excruciatingly bad cliches. I don’t know why they spent the two weeks before its release instead plugging some awful extreme fetish game that they’re releasing in three months but cutting out all the extreme fetish stuff which is its only selling point and reason for existence. It could have been handled better would be the understatement, and seeing the effort put into selling it being little more than a couple ad banners after leaving the project to gather dust for a year has a way of draining any enthusiasm one might have for being proactive and encouraging their behavior. No comment on Seinarukana. Or as Jast likes to call it, Seinaru Kana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803062
He should
have learned
from Ixrec's
mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803062
>I don’t know why they chose to advertise it by ignoring the strengths and zeroing in on panty shots and excruciatingly bad cliches.

Panty shots and excruciatingly bad cliches do actually sell though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802732
>The rest reads alright.
No it doesn't, not even close. Granted some of the problems could be from the original writing rather than the translation, but the end result is the same and is painful to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803280
Not sure what your problem is, it seems fine to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803332
Is English your second or third language? I really hope it isn't your first if you think that's fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803339
What specifically do you take issue with? I mean yeah there was the failure to capitalize one line and possibly some excessive ellipsis use in another (though this is subjective and personally I don't mind it as much as some do) otherwise seemed okay to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803395
Why should you settle for "Okay" quality with some jarring bad errors in when it's a commercial release that they expect you to pay money for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803437
Because that is the standard of commercial VN releases at the moment. It's either that or get nothing at all. I'm happy enough to get a translation I can read without breaking my immersion too much, and that gives me a decent understanding of the story. If I wanted more I'd just learn Japanese or something. I think all of us who read translations understand this on some level.

[Anonymous No.]

So, in other drama news: Remember that higurashi tumblr crusader? Looks like his own have turned on him for latching onto that >>12771668 image and decrying it to continue his crusade. Apparently evening seeing that image triggered them all to shit and they're pissed. I guess you live by the SJW, you die by the SJW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803453
That's a retarded point, recent releases from MG nor JAST are anywhere near as bad as Sekai Projects and you should realize when you're saying "This shit filled burger I paid for tastes like shit, but it's better than no burger at all" as a consumer and continue to buy said burger you're giving them no actual reason to improve their quality so you'll keep getting the same shit filled burger for years to come.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803499

But what if I like eating shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803505
Translation quality unfortunately isn't something subjective for the most part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803499
Well I can't really judge it since I haven't gotten to play the game yet (despite my skepticism on the TL complaints I still refuse to put money in Dovac's pocket for other reasons, and am waiting on a torrent) but from the very limited amount I've seen it seems about the standard I've come to expect from a MG or Jast release. QC might be a bit on the rough side but still within the range I'd expect.

I'll have to see how the rest looks honestly though. It's really hard to judge from one screenshot so I refuse to try for the most part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802984
That is so funny I'm just going to pretend it was intentional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803395
Let's break it down line by line.
1. Putting a person's hopes into quotations is awkward. I can imagine how the Japanese sentence was structured and this is likely one of those cases of the translator adhering too closely to the original sentence structure instead of making it sound more natural in English.
2. You just used the word hope in the previous line.
3. Holy ellipses abuse, made even worse by the inconsistent spacing.
4. I think the reason this isn't capitalized is because it's meant to be a continuation of the quotation in the previous sentence. You can do this kind of stuff in Japanese but not English. Bad simile.
5. Ok.
6. "such weight unheard of from one so young" Awkward both in its phrasing and in terms of just being cheesy as hell.
7. Same as above with "an emotion unknown to him."
8. Why are we in present tense now?
9. Is there a way to express ideas without turning them into questions?
10. Too many commas.
11. This one is obvious.

Some of these complaints are more minor than others but the net effect makes for an unpleasant read. Most of the problems seem to stem from keeping too much of the original Japanese (sentence structures, reusing words, ellipses, changing tenses) without realizing that languages have different rules and standards.

Like I mentioned I would guess the original writing wasn't good to begin with, as seen in the cliches and bad similes. Bad writing combined with bad translation makes for one big pile of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803543
I agree with your sentiment, but it is worth remembering that only rarely is there one and only correct way to translate a work or even a line and multiple translators could come up with things completely unrecognizable as being from the same source and both being well within the realm of accurate.

That isn't at all what's going on here though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803599
Most of that stuff is pretty subjective though. I think you're expecting a much higher standard than what VN translators could reasonably give us. Only 3, 4, and 11 were really all that serious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803615
>Most of that stuff is pretty subjective
So is all writing. And yet there are ways to better express yourself, make the text flow better, make the text clear, and invoke the desired imagery, which is why you don't see any 7 year old literary geniuses.

[Anonymous No.]

I should hope the standard we endeavor to is more than "technically error free."

Even if it is, this doesn't meet the standards set by Smash Brothers fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803141
Ixrec has never worked with anybody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803615
>Most of that stuff is pretty subjective though.
True in the sense that there are no objective rules for fiction writing, and that the text doesn't violate grammar rules except where noted. But if you asked people who have a sense of writing I'm sure most would call that excerpt bad writing.

Saying that Ulysses is better written than Harry Potter is also "subjective" but most people who know what they're talking about would agree.

>I think you're expecting a much higher standard than what VN translators could reasonably give us.
I think a good standard to hold VN translations to is that the text match the level of the original work. This is really not an unrealistic standard, we are not talking Joyce level prose here, yet few translators seem able to reach it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803694
For it to be a good standard it needs to be something that people actually reach somewhat frequently. How many VN translations have actually met that standard you proposed? Depending on who you asked, some might say that none have in the history of VN translations! Even the more optimistic people would only really be able to claim in good conscience a small handful, maybe 2-3 at most.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803062

It wouldn't really be JAST if it didn't get delayed, now would it? It's turnaround was already highly unusual, so it's just the universe correcting itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803693
He's most likely talking about the MG situation with MLA but that's a completely different scenario entirely and not relevant at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803724
It still took a year and a half from announcement, when it was already mostly finished pre-Jast.

[Anonymous No.]

One hour to dovac's next kickstarter, /jaypee/

Are you hyped for the next delay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803921
I want it to fail so badly just because he's a giant asshole with no respect for the audience or the games, but am depressed that it won't..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803921
That would we hilarious at this point

>>12803924
Yeah, if WEE can get $100k and WAS can get $60k, it's going to have no problems reaching it's goal even with the problems. Sekai Project is going to have a nightmare on their hands though if people back thinking they'll get a discount/free uncut version and that doesn't come through though (or they don't clearly say no discount/free uncut version well before the Kickstarter ends).

[Anonymous No.]

Jast twitter on the Romanesque delay

>Are you delaying the Digital version as a result of this?

>Yes, we have to to ship them together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803948
What 18+ version? Sekai Project "doesn't do porn" and they're in no way related to Denpasoft. Offering people discounted versions goes against Frontwing wanting complete separation so I can't see it happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803976

It's hard work packing those bits into the tubes, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803982
>>12803948
To begin with, is Sekai Project even a good translation team?

As I see it, Frontwing is testing the waters to see if us "westerners" would buy the all-ages or 18+ version of their game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804001
Not at all. The only translator they have above awful is Koestl, and they don't even really have him, just a project he already released. He's not doing anything for them until after Gahkt, which is at least four or five months off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804001
Sekai Project isn't a translation team. They contract out the tl work to others. For Grisaia, they've hired koestl, so at the very least, we know that tl will be decent.

[Anonymous No.]

Weekly reminder that this is what /jp/ considers bad translation.

>>12803599
>1. Putting a person's hopes into quotations is awkward. I can imagine how the Japanese sentence was structured and this is likely one of those cases of the translator adhering too closely to the original sentence structure instead of making it sound more natural in English.
Saying it's awkward is entirely subjective. I personally feel there's nothing wrong with it, and it's not something universally agreed on as bad writing. So blame the original writer for doing it like that, the translator just translated it like it was. Changing the writing style because you prefer yours is bad translation.

>2. You just used the word hope in the previous line.
Which seems entirely intentional to link it to the previous sentence. Doing it without reason is bad writing, but there are valid reasons for doing so, and this is one such occasion where it's justified.

>3. Holy ellipses abuse, made even worse by the inconsistent spacing.
Blame the original writer for ellipsis abuse (unless it was added by the translator, but I doubt it). The inconsistent spacing is indeed just wrong, though it's a minor issue.

>4. I think the reason this isn't capitalized is because it's meant to be a continuation of the quotation in the previous sentence. You can do this kind of stuff in Japanese but not English. Bad simile.
You can most certainly do this in English. Note that line breaks in visual novels are entirely arbitrary and not comparable to anything in traditional literature save for perhaps poetry, where things like this are allowed. The bad simile can, again, be blamed on the original writer.

>6. "such weight unheard of from one so young" Awkward both in its phrasing and in terms of just being cheesy as hell.
Agreed, but I don't think any other translation would help much. The source line is clearly the cause of the problem here.

(continued...)

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>>12804026
They kind of are though, as their 'head of licensing' is also translating shit for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804032
I appreciate that you actually remind people weekly, unlike the idiots that just use "weekly reminder XD!" as some stupid meme.

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(continued from >>12804032)

>7. Same as above with "an emotion unknown to him."
Disagree about the phrasing being awkward, but that's subjective, agreed about it being cheesy, but again, blame the writer, not the translator.

>8. Why are we in present tense now?
Because the narrator is wondering it as he looks bad at the past. Present tense is acceptable here. It does get awkward when reverting to past in line #10, though.

>9. Is there a way to express ideas without turning them into questions?
Not without ruining the style. Writing like this very much fits the situation of the narrator wondering what the emotion could be. That said, we're disagreeing on the writing style again, which is not the translator's fault.

>10. Too many commas.
Agreed. Though I can see what the translator was going for, having a comma after every 1-2 words is simply awkward.

>11. This one is obvious.
The only thing not obvious is just what the hell this sentence was supposed to be. Where were the QCers?

By the way, do we know for sure yet if that image is even from the final version and not the earlier beta?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804032
>All the problems are the original's fault

You're retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804032
Nobody said that was a bad translation you retard, one guy said it was then like 10 people called him out on not knowing English. If you think that's even remotely comparable to Nekopara or the above text from Fault, you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804025
But after that one he's doing the other Grisaia games, so those will have some nice translations, at least. Also Gahkthun is going to be awesome so that will be a nice thing while we wait.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sekaiproject/the-grisaia-trilogy-three-huge-visual-novels-for-p

It's up, they got $7k in first 2 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804032
>>12804039
>It's all subjective but you're wrong
>If it's not subjective, it's the original's fault the translator is bad at grammar
>It's not awkward or wrong because I say so

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804041
And then he stubbornly shitposted for multiple hours on straight when he realized what an ass he looked like. God, he was so annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804046
46 days, looks like they wanted it to finish Feb 1st.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804046
Wow... The $$ is going through the roof! Almost $20k so far!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804046
>Naked erotic Dakimakuras and bedsheets part of the backer rewards
>No R-18 version allowed though
Is this a joke, or are they just trying to Jew people into buying both versions at full price?

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>>12804046

They should make it at least 17+, like Eve Burst Error.

[Anonymous No.]

>Three Huge Visual Novels

Wow. He didn't even make it to the end of the title without lying.

[Anonymous No.]

Shit, it hasn't even been 5 minutes and its already at $25,000. Looks like people really don't care about the 18+ release.

This is probably a dumb question, but will the actual dakimakuras have those yellow lines across them, or is it only like that in the picture to make it sfw?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804084
Sekai Project doesn't do porn so they'll have those yellow lines. Quite a lot of comments I'm reading say they'll pull their funding if the R18 version isn't announced around January which is when they said they would have more news on it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804084
I think some people are just funding it because they want more VNs in the West in general. Too bad they're giving their money for something this half-assed instead of just buying a game from JAST or MG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804084
It says for backers 18+ only, so they should be uncensored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804046
CHIRUCHIRU.

THE DREAM IS ALIVE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804097
Its not reaching the goal? Thank god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804092
>Sekai Project doesn't do porn so they'll have those yellow lines.
Highly unlikely, considering they're sent to 18+ backers only. They haven't confirmed either way so if you really think they'd be retarded enough to ship it with yellow lines you should ask them.

>Quite a lot of comments I'm reading say they'll pull their funding if the R18 version isn't announced around January which is when they said they would have more news on it though.
None of the Kickstarter comments say that, so I don't know where you're getting that from. Hell, among the Kickstarter comments there's even only two backers asking for more info on the 18+ situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804084
>Shit, it hasn't even been 5 minutes and its already at $25,000. Looks like people really don't care about the 18+ release.

This is going to be deceptive compared to Clannad when just looking at the dollar amount. The main tier for Grisaia is $180 (physical copy of the trilogy), while the main tier for Clannad is $50 (physical copy of the game)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804101
I'll make you eat those words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804041
Devil's advocate, I'm 90% sure the word there was himegaki, literally "princess fence." They're the little barricades used along castle walls so you can see royalty but can't get at them. Japanese castles were more like steep hills, so himegaki were mainly there as a minor nuisance to stop people from trying to run up long enough for someone to get over there and deal with them.

Now you know!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804084
>Shit, it hasn't even been 5 minutes and its already at $25,000. Looks like people really don't care about the 18+ release.

This is going to be deceptive compared to Clannad when just looking at the dollar amount. The main tier for Grisaia is $120 (physical copy of the trilogy), while the main tier for Clannad is $50 (physical copy of the game)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804108
In what way? I don't think you know what that phrase means. Are you a translator for Sekai Project?

[Anonymous No.]

>I just want clarification. This is the all age version? It said Cero D (Mature) so I was a little thrown off. SP said that frontwing wanted to separate the all-age & 18+ version or something like that.

One of the backer posts, I wonder how many people think this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804120
Clearly he's going to pledge $200,000 all by himself.

[Anonymous No.]

They just posted this, I guess they are getting a decent amount of questions on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804131
Yeah, he's going to tell everybody at the end when the kickstarter has ended that he's going to start another kickstarter. They're different games afterall. :^)

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804131
So who wants to place their bets? I'm all in on they don't mention anything about not being able to do 18+ till the last second so they get as much funding as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope these people who are backing the kickstarter in hope of an 18+ version get their dream crushed so they can finally realize that Dovac is a lying jew.

[Anonymous No.]

If I am reading the tiers correctly, either they are holding back all the titles until all three are release ready, or it will suck to be a backer of the physical version of the full trilogy.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there actually any legitimate reason to not mention you are doing the 18+ version? It is only bad for sales?

[Anonymous No.]

>SP:We don't do porn.

How am I supposed to read Grisaia without the hentai?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804157
Frontwing probably told them not to mention it.

Also, some backers will see "mature" and think that means uncensored" and back it when they might not of otherwise, see >>12804125

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804157
Front Wing is forcing them to release the 18+ version as a different company and to pretend they're unrelated.

[Anonymous No.]

There appears to be enough backers taking the "I want the 18+ version but I'll support this" that if there are problems getting the 18+ release or if backers have to pay full price for the second time, Sekai Project is going to have a problem on their hand.

[Anonymous No.]

J-List's website really is the worst. They're advertising money back on shipping, but whenever I click an image about the 'EMS sale' it redirects me to some unrelated bullshit page like 'recently updated items'. Do you not want me to buy Romanesque, Peter Payne?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804178
>https://www.jastusa.com/
No link
>http://blog.jastusa.com/blog/2014/09/22/littlewitch-romanesque-available-for-preorder/
404
>http://blog.jastusa.com/blog/2014/11/21/littlewitch-romanesque-goes-golden-master-releasing-this-december/
url, no hyperlink

Clearly not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804178
Buy it from the Jastusa site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804139
I am guessing it becomes a stretch goal later in the campaign.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804192
But FW themselves don't want it on this kickstarter so either SP get it later with another kickstarter or through Denpa using this kickstarter's funds but under a different label.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804200
Frontwing has said a lot of things that have been altered later.

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>>12804188
>http://www.jastusa.com/shop/girlish-grimoire-littlewitch-romanesque-editio-perfecta.html
404

Man, didn't their their web guy even bother checking the links?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804188
No mention about the 'EMS sale' even if you go to checkout. +1 lost sale for JAST, I ain't paying $40 + a whole bunch of shipping to Europe.

>http://blog.jastusa.com/blog/2014/09/22/littlewitch-romanesque-available-for-preorder/

>The download costs $34.95.

What the hell? What the hell JAST, it clearly says $40 on J-List, the exact same price as the physical + download bundle (except the bundle gets you raped by shipping costs and import tax bullshit).

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804120
I was hoping you would get the reference but nope.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.jastusa.com/littlewitch.html

This works, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Seeing the word shikishi pisses me off.

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't we all glad that SP finally found the thing that excuses all their lying; blaming another company?

Sure, they fucked it up the first time they tried it when they blamed some random VAs as their excuse for running off with Kickstarter money, but this time it worked out great!

[Anonymous No.]

From the completely unrelated company

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804250
They can afford to be smug assholes. Kickstarter's base is nothing but imbeciles.

[Anonymous No.]

Well would you look at that, they just lost a backer. Went from 372 to 371.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804233
Hey, "blame Japan" has worked for the US anime industry for decades!

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804273
Unless they lost that 1k kickstarter backer, it doesn't really matter. This will get funded. Just enjoy the ride when the drama starts at the end.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd prefer to give the Amaterasu translation team the funding, they're translated great vns over the years and actually deserve it..

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804280
I really hope there will be some major drama at the end, because watching the braindead give money to the jews is depressing me. It's depressing, but I can't stop watching.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate Michiru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804295
Tell me about it. Dovac is nothing but a leech. Any money should be going to translation teams, not for him to throw away on fucking MMOs.

[Anonymous No.]

I wish there was like...a way for Sekai Project to keep making as much money as they are, but with Dovac being replaced by someone competent. But I suppose if someone else was in charge we wouldn't have ended up with a company so reliant on Kickstarters. I wouldn't even mind the Kickstarter funding though, if someone better than Dovac was running things and not fucking them up and wasting the money he's being given.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804355
Sad thing is Sekai Project doing well with Kickstarters will make JAST and Mangagamer start to consider them.

[Anonymous No.]

Is dovac going to pay koestl 10¢ per character?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804328
What is this random post from Herkz doing here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804368
At least Mangagamer is actually good, so that's alright.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804368
Historically though niche communities eventually get burnt out by crowdfunding you can ask for it for so long and it is in no way a bad thing when you are starting off, but eventually it bites you in the ass.

[Anonymous No.]

It's half way to it's goal, at $80k now.

[Anonymous No.]

Please SubaHibi... you can make it. I want to believe. I want to believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805006
Don't expect anything from any project with Herkz involved. He's proven himself time and again to be utterly incompetent.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit, it's already at 124k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805092
Herkz isn't the problem. Kirby is. He's too busy shitposting on /vg/ and trying to be a normalfag to do any translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805110
Cry more you fucking infant child

[Anonymous No.]

Is Sekai planning to have Yuuji be voiced or something? He wasn't voiced before right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805685
He's not voiced in the Vita release, so I'm not sure what gave you that idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805700
Some guy just mentioned it in the comments section of the kickstarter. I assume he was just being retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

If Euphoria sells well. What are the chances of Ma☆Ko Hunter getting localized?

[Anonymous No.]

Grisaia has been fully funded. $39,000 left for Chiruchiru Michiru.

[Anonymous No.]

And Grisaia is funded.

Since it'll undoubtedly hit the Chiruchiru Michiru goal, is it safe to assume they'll do both games? Or are we in for another Kickstarter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805852
We will have a separate kickstarter for the 18+ version of the originals if that is what you are asking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805858
No, I'm talking about Chiruchiru Michiru. It's a two-part game, with the second part coming out next week. I'm wondering if the stretch goal in the current Kickstarter covers both parts or if they'll have to do another Kickstarter later for the second part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12801001
>ps3 version

[Anonymous No.]

>>12802746
but they do the wrong project, at least in my todo list, nothing really interesting

[Anonymous No.]

>>12804368
Dont care as long they pick the good project, I dont mind paying a bit if we get the good VN

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806112
That certainty is a concern, which is why I'm hopeful that they allow an upgrade system for Kickstarter backers, to get an accurate idea of the percent who want 18+

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806112
The thing is that for most companies, 18+ isn't a problem. Front Wing is just being weird about it. So if MG/JAST decide to hop on the Kickstarter bandwagon there's no reason why they couldn't offer both versions from the get-go (since we've confirmed that KS doesn't care about 2D porn). Then we'll get to see if people really want all-ages releases or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805724
MG is interested by Clockup titles so it's likely to happen one day. I hope we can see Fraternite localized one day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12805852
That's just the stretch goal to get it translated. Nowhere in the pledges did it say, the backers will get the game. This kickstarter is funded on dreams and wishes of the idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh man, Dovac's getting desperate. Now he's had to resort to selling the Sakura Spirit soundtrack separately in a last-ditch effort to turn a profit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806659
Stop shilling Dovac

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803494
And low look at this
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5371457&postcount=2093
Fucking top kek
This kid just doesn't know where to stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803976

New tweet on the Romanesque situation

>The package edition of Littlewitch is delayed for a couple weeks, but we'll release the download codes on Monday!

I guess they can ship them separately after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806852
My fucking sides. Do you get a digital copy if you bought the physical?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806852
They delayed the digital release so they could do it at the same time as the physical, but the physical is being delayed even more, so...they delayed the digital release for no fucking reason?

Business as usual with jast, I guess, but christ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806855
Yes, one of the few things Jast does correctly is people who buy a physical copy get a download code as well.

What is funny in that regards is the Grisaia Kickstarter is currently set up so people who ordered the digital release get their games as they are released, while those who ordered the physical copies don't get it until the trilogy is finished. It will be quite a rude awakening if Sekai Project doesn't sort that out to let backers of the physical copy play when each title is release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806894
What game that SP has kickstarted this year that has come out this year? They have more kickstarters than actual games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806860
>We're releasing it early
>By early, I mean 6 days after we announced we would
>And we announcing this a day after we said we'd release it
>And packaged versions are extra delayed

Sasuga Jast

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806901
fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>12806852
Why they are going out Monday, instead of say, now.

>We will ship these out on Monday by the way. To give time to reviewers to play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807006
I'm pretty sure the game isn't 8 hours long, so their hope is what, that reviewers post things Christmas Eve?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807006
>>12807095
When did they decide to delay it? Shouldn't review copies have been sent out with the understanding the game was going to be released the 16th?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807108
You think Jast does separate reviewer copies? What ever gave you that idea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12803499
>>12803547
Some difficulties with prose is better than the 5 or so typos that are in Ever17

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807138
Oh god, five typos? What a catastrophe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807180
>>12807138
Ever17 had a lot more problems than a few typos. I'd be shocked if it had even fewer than ten times that many typos alone, to say nothing of the Engrish fuckups and occasional accidentally spoiling things.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder. This is something that /jp/ thought was an acceptable translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807192
Hundreds of typos and weird "?" everywhere. I don't even think anybody checked it after it was translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807192
When it comes to accidental spoilers though, it isn't nearly at the tier of LoGH outros.
They're accidental spoilers, but not THAT bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807195
I've never even seen that game before. You're fucking nuts and you need to learn how to make analogies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807232
LoGH outros were always intentional spoilers because of the series' format. I'm disappointed in you if you've actually watched LoGH and somehow didn't realize that.

The Ever17 situation was completely different because it was some translator's error putting a spoiler in the wrong place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807108
Jast basically got a great idea of "maybe we should find someone to review this" and are looking for companies to do so. I guess what Aroduc said in that blog post got to them. They are basically sending requests to anyone who might have any interest at all in reviewing it.

https://twitter.com/jastusa/with_replies

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807335
Do you remember what the spoiler was? It's been awhile since I read Ever17.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807342
So much for Jast being the professional company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807342
If they read his post, you'd think they'd have fixed their website so it actually links to the game they're trying to sell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807342
They were tweeting at a bunch of people about that a month ago. I really don't think they're actually doing anything at all special for reviewers, just saying "two days is enough time to play a VN and post a review before Christmas."

Because they're imbeciles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807378
Oh, I see that they just took all the people they spammed a month ago and spammed them all again to let them know that they sent them e-mail.
>@senpaigamer U got email about our upcoming game
>@japanator Just hit you guys up about the upcoming Littlewitch game.
>@thenichegamer U got mail about our upcoming Littlewitch game
Is Peter Payne a fucking 90 year old man?

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807378
It was suppose to go out the 16th though, then they posted they will send out downloads Monday to allow reviewers time to review it, then they decided to go find people to review it. It would be one thing if this was all happening during the first half of December, but the only reason it's not out currently is because shipping in San Diego missed the deadline and they delayed the download along with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807399
Shipping and release the digital version have nothing to do with each other. The physical version's now delayed even further and they just said fuck it, but are still delaying the digital version because... they're Jast.

[Anonymous No.]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=357426334

Jast trying to put something on Steam
Not Steins;Gate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807571
Sweet crispy fuck do I hate Jast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>12807606
How far would we be from a Full Metal Daemon Muramasu translation if not for JAST?

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>>12807571
So 5pb is fine with PS3/Vita/iOS/PC digital download/PC hard copy, yet they still refuse to budge on Steam? So Jast, looking to cash in on the Steam train everyone else is decides to go with Romanesque, and I guess they will probably try to get Eien no Aselia and Seinarukana to steam down the road as well.

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>>12807345
MAJOR EVER17 SPOILERS

It was a date that was originally intentionally rendered wrong to make it fit the player's expectations and obfuscate that the real date was beyond 2017 (as it was clearly a past date, but it was not yet known the year is really 2034). The translator 'fixed' the date, giving away the twist that it was actually a date 'in the future' way too early.

I used to have an image with the original version and the translated version, but I can't find it anymore.

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>>12807794
It'd be nice to get Demonbane there too just for the slight possibility that Kishin Hishou could be translated too. Considering the sequel also has actual action game parts and is much shorter compared to the first, it'd be a good Steam candidate also.

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>>12807938
The big thing though is if Jast can get through to 5pb for Steins;Gate and Jast's steam release are successful, that opens up a ton of potential future licenses through 5pb.

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>>12807958
True. I'm glad that Romanesque is even getting released at all, let alone the Steam Greenlight deal. Since Demonbane in 2011, and Steins;Gate this year, all they released in between was Saya no Uta in 2013. So now that Romanesque is coming out along with Hanachirasu soon, they finally have some momentum to possibly get shit like Sumaga and Django out sometime in the next year while sldo possibly getting some new titles. This is just blind hope but the new releases and possible Steam ports finally put JAST in a good spot.

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>>12807606
Why do you hate them? They put one of their best VN and one that has actual gameplay on Greenlight. If anything they are fucking BASED.

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>>12807571
What's the point of crippling 18+ games and releasing them on Steam? Why don't they try to release Aselia instead, which has no ero and is a rare case where all ages edition is better than 18+ version? Why do normies buy these crippled versions on Steam anyway? Maybe I'm just retarded, but I don't understand this trend.

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>>12808683
Because you get Steam keys for free when buying the 18+ version. JASTUSA will hopefully also give the game backgrounds so you can show off the cute girls on your profile or sell them to crazy people like me for 30$.

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>>12808750
Why buy from Steam at all when you can buy from Jast and get both versions of the VN? I don't understand what they are thinking. The same goes for MG. Not only will buying from MG give them more profit, but they'll allow you go redeem the game on Steam if it's there.

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>>12808926
People on Steam won't bother and will buy off Steam directly. A LOT OF THEM.

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>>12808926
Different prices. With region prices, it costs 10$ at most at Steam for me, while 45$ at MG. If I would mind pirating everything I play, I would definitely consider buying cheaper version in exchange for no h-stuff.

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fault -milestone one- torrent where? huh?

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>>12807571
Add it now Valve! Because it's very EPIC. And give me one!

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>>12809273
no one wants to buy sekai project trash

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>>12802987

shut up ti9 lol. you still impersonating koestl, moogy, lt007, futsuu, ad infitum ?

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These people are mad about western vn translations and yet they are posting in a thread dedicated to waiting for them.