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Shiro Project(ShiroPro) Tue Nov 11 08:15:39 2014 No.12682458 [Reply] [Original]

Since talk about ShiroPro is making the Kancolle general thread too OT, let's move here.

The game just went live a few hours ago for those who pre-registered back in late October.
The name was changed from Shiro Collection(Shirocolle) to Shiro Project(Shiropro) to not confuse the two.

Actual game link here(VPN required): http://www.dmm.com/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=149569/

Wikia link(very much still a WIP): http://shirocolle.wikia.com/wiki/Shiro_Collection_Wiki

Otherwise, not much new information out yet and those who got in are pretty much flying blind.

Take it easy and let's discuss our shiromusume.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:18:53 2014 No.12682463 File: 204 KB, 810x479, starter2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Starter of my choice

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:20:43 2014 No.12682467 Japanese wiki: http://sc.swiki.jp Add this to the next OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:25:03 2014 No.12682472 File: 183 KB, 796x479, starter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12682463 Chose her. Though I got your starter as my secondary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:27:30 2014 No.12682478 >>12682463 Nice choice, same here. Apparently, she's a really hungry castle girl.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:29:46 2014 No.12682483 Can't seem to enter the game at all using a cookie hack. Clicking the join button just refreshes the page for me Do I really have to get on a vpn again? Argh. I don't have issues paying for stuff via the cookie either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:30:14 2014 No.12682484 >>12682483 Did you pre-reg? I'm using the cookie method just fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:30:55 2014 No.12682486 >>12682484 I didn't, unfortunately

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:30:56 2014 No.12682487 >>12682458 Basically yet another Kancolle clone?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:31:57 2014 No.12682489 >>12682486 It's only open for those who pre-registered for now. I think since I pre-registered.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:32:04 2014 No.12682490 >>12682486 That's the problem

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:32:17 2014 No.12682491
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>>12682472
W-wow.. I had your pick as my secondary as well.

>>12682483
I'm using cookie, right now priority are given to those who pre-reg.

>>12682487
No.. well somehow similar but this is a tower defense game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:33:48 2014 No.12682493 >>12682487 >yet another It's like the first clone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:34:10 2014 No.12682495 File: 122 KB, 722x600, ah.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12682489 >>12682490 >>12682491 Isn't a cat

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:34:34 2014 No.12682496

>>12682491
I guess they're complementary so each starter has their corresponding secondaries. Blonde is kinda weak though, got her hp to zero on the second map and had to "sacrifice" someone. Good thing I didn't lost anyone since apparently it's RNG driven.

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:36:14 2014 No.12682502
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I don't get it, why don't you guys play something like Lord of Walkure?
http://www.dmm.com/en/netgame_s/low/

Which is similar to your girl collecting game but has actual porn in it? Or any of the other dozens of DMM games with porn?

You don't even need to know Japanese for games like Aigis
http://www.dmm.co.jp/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=156462/
It's just your standard tower defense .... with porn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:37:00 2014 No.12682504 Okay i just got in that game. I did play some of Kancolle but got bored of it after a few weeks. I just wanted to know what are the main differences between the too gameplay wise.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:37:02 2014 No.12682505 >>12682491 One of my castle got rekt by the boss in 3 hits in 1-5. Just be quick on the retreat when you get to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:39:59 2014 No.12682511 Anyone can guide me what the tutorials want?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:41:22 2014 No.12682512 >>12682511 The game should already guide you through them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:42:20 2014 No.12682513 >>12682511 Just follow where the white girl is pointing. It's basically crafting, formation, battle mechanics, etc. Nearly the same as KC except when on a battle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:44:36 2014 No.12682516 >>12682505 Not there yet, but I assume it is perma death as well?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:45:02 2014 No.12682517 How do you succeed in "discovery"? I've sent the girls out when the fox girl said that it was a good composition twice but I failed both times.

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:47:03 2014 No.12682520

>>12682516
Your girls get kidnapped and you have to pay a ransom in X amount of time or they'll be gone forever. Getting "kidnapped" is RNG-driven by the way. When your main castle falls, they'll haul ass outta there and you have to select one your remaining girls as "bait". The bait will then either resist the "kidnapping", which happened to me or get kidnapped from what I've read.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:49:33 2014 No.12682526 >>12682520 I think you can only get captured if you're retreating. If one of your shiromusu "dies" in battle you can still repair them from 0HP.

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:52:41 2014 No.12682530

>>12682526
When my castle "fell" the game directed me to a character select screen so I kinda just chose on random which happened to be my secondary. After that some text then the animation of them retreating with the chosen girl falling a bit behind then the enemies catching up to her. They just "bounced" off of her and she retreated as well so dunno, had a close call either way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:53:51 2014 No.12682533 That's what happens when your main castle falls I think. What I was talking about is the other castles that you place around the map gets down to 0.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:56:24 2014 No.12682538 Aw shit, I knew I should have pre-registered for this. I can already smell the lottery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 08:58:10 2014 No.12682541 File: 154 KB, 638x426, Legend.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 09:04:37 2014 No.12682546 2-1 has air units. Comes from NE, E and SE, ignores pathing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 09:12:27 2014 No.12682555 Remember how this game has a warning of player needs to be age 18+? anything lewd yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 09:15:03 2014 No.12682558 File: 142 KB, 793x474, dmg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12682555 Only this one so far. Haven't sortied that much as deploying them already costs way more than deploying a fleet of BBs in KC.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 09:21:51 2014 No.12682563 So basically I'll need to wait for a lottery if I didn't pre register?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 10:05:59 2014 No.12682595 Ahegao included..

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 10:41:03 2014 No.12682636 >>12682595 I would've signed up if I knew that it's tower defense..

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 10:54:14 2014 No.12682650 >>12682458 Wait, why is in DMM? It was by a different company last time

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 10:57:50 2014 No.12682655 >>12682650 Different game

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 10:59:06 2014 No.12682658 >>12682655 Oh darn, should've pre-registered for this one too

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 11:23:03 2014 No.12682690 File: 213 KB, 800x482, Quest.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just like OLET the quest aren't needed to be activated like KC, this is good. What does it do when their bar goes full? extra power?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 11:26:09 2014 No.12682699 >>12682690 This reminds me of sengoku race

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 11:28:01 2014 No.12682705 The kidnapping looks funny, its as if some rape will soon follow. I have 4 girls down and the one supposed to hold the enemy got beaten in one push.. wtf, the ransom somehow is expensive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 12:12:49 2014 No.12682787 So wood is the think we'll lack right ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 13:04:39 2014 No.12682924 >>12682690 What bar?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 15:12:17 2014 No.12683216 What do I do about the wood shortage?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 15:37:55 2014 No.12683300 >>12683216 Clear daily, set territories to produce wood, spend less wood.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 16:08:35 2014 No.12683377 >Actual game link here(VPN required) Why do they do that? I would even try that out but it's like telling me to fuck off so I will

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 16:28:39 2014 No.12683436 >>12682705 Some of the quests should give an item that let's you retrieve kidnapped girls without paying a ransom. I don't have the screenshots I took when I did CBT but it should look like a ticket.

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 16:59:57 2014 No.12683541

>>12682690
I assume it's the bar on the girl's icons on the side when on the field. When full their icon will change and you can click on that icon to activate their special skill. Skills range from self healing, faster rate of fire for nearby units, increased range for all units, increased attack, AoE burst damage, damage increase, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 17:01:35 2014 No.12683546 So am starting up the game since I pre-reg, how long till the english wiki get at least the basic gameplay up?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 17:02:43 2014 No.12683550 >>12683541 To follow up, hover your pointer over their ui icon to see the range of the skill. The increased range and attack speed skill will be very useful in world 3 which has two different fast units in most map waves on top of the flyers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 17:20:06 2014 No.12683618 I can't seem to clear 2-6. For people who cleared it, how was your composition, roughly ?

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 17:51:14 2014 No.12683754

>>12683618
I remember using two melee and three ranged units while my main castle was Kagoshima. Two of them had range up while the other two had attack speed up for skills. Kagoshima took out stragglers with her skill. If she doesn't work out that ranged castle with the tri-force hair pins works as the main castle since she has global range up and has high HP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 18:19:01 2014 No.12683862 Question on the gameplay, can you move your units after one wave is finish? Like reposition them for the next wave or are they stuck to where you place them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 19:37:54 2014 No.12684087 >>12683550 >attack speed skill I don't think I have anyone with that skill, who have it? I might spam construction for that or do 1-5

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:05:47 2014 No.12684178 >>12684087 From the top of my head I remember the paired archers has it. There's also that holo rare spear unit with with purple clothes. I'd post pictures but I'm on a phone from work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:07:21 2014 No.12684184 >>12684178 Also I think the twin tails with the sword-whip has it.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Tue Nov 11 20:09:59 2014 No.12684193 How's the grind? I expect it to be way more forgiving than Aegis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:34:08 2014 No.12684268 File: 210 KB, 802x481, cute butt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wrong map wrong group.. at least I didn't lose. also cute butt

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:05:32 2014 No.12684361 >>12683862 Nope, pretty sure they are stuck in place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:08:07 2014 No.12684367 Can you get the api link from here as well?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:26:38 2014 No.12684404 Did anyone raised a girl at Kai level yet ? I'm getting frustratted having no idea when I can clear the kai quest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:29:37 2014 No.12684412 >>12684404 I'm more frustrated at going all max at building for multiple times and got shit timers in return.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:32:38 2014 No.12684423 >>12684404 I'm more confused at the equipment building since it keeps failing.

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:34:17 2014 No.12684428

>>12684412
Yeah, I get that too.
I built around 15 all-650, and got 2 silver to show for it.
Using all my res at the start for good girls is generally my "strategy" in this kind of game - but considering there's a map-ish thing to chose when building, I wonder if we can actually get good things with the first and only map most of us new players have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:45:57 2014 No.12684459 >>12684428 The first option is not a map, it's a builder contract.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:48:08 2014 No.12684464 >>12684459 And do you know about it's usage or purpose ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:50:34 2014 No.12684471 >>12684464 From the description it says that different amount of resources are used for different builders, so I'd assume that different builders have different castle building pools.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 23:01:41 2014 No.12684651 File: 120 KB, 793x476, bonus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can anyone tell me what the stuff written at the bottom is? I know it has something to do with closed beta and some bonus items but I'm not sure what the items are exactly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 23:08:50 2014 No.12684665 >>12684651 you got shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 23:51:23 2014 No.12684785 >>12684651 Am guessing she a beta only character and I guess extra supplies?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 00:03:36 2014 No.12684815 Got this after finishing a 20min exploration. Seems like you can get various stuff other than resources and building mats.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 00:05:06 2014 No.12684818 File: 192 KB, 801x478, ss (2014-11-12 at 01.02.21).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12684815 Forgot to attach pic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 01:12:20 2014 No.12684963 >>12684815 Do you need specific girls for expeditions like Kancolle?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 01:19:33 2014 No.12684986 >>12684963 Don't think so, only the terrain matters I think. What I did is put in enough castles until the fox girl tells me that it's a すばらしい部隊.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 01:28:19 2014 No.12685001 So can you lose your castles forever? I've seen one of the defenders's HP reduce to zero on stream but was still in the guy's roster.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 01:39:31 2014 No.12685027 >>12685001 Some of your castles may get captured if you choose to retreat or if your main castle falls in battle. If you don't pay the ransom in 24h it's gone forever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 01:52:30 2014 No.12685053 >>12685027 Even if I wanted to retreat because I know my castle won't survive the next wave, some of them, even the full HP ones, might get captured?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 01:57:11 2014 No.12685071 >>12685053 It's random either if you click the retreat button or if you main castle falls I think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 01:58:27 2014 No.12685078 >>12685053 It's RNG-driven whether the girl will get captured or not. Not sure if it's dependent on the level of your girl though since when I lost a battle, I picked my second highest as bait and she didn't get captured.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 02:43:51 2014 No.12685176 What does the territory tab do under the formation menu by the way?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 02:53:44 2014 No.12685189 >>12685176 Different territories gives you extra natural regen on different resources, gained by finishing battles as drops.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 03:03:06 2014 No.12685203 >>12685189 Oh so there is a natural regen? I didn't know, or maybe I was focused on looking at the food resource which is I'm lacking at the moment, very costly deploying girls.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 03:05:45 2014 No.12685208 File: 11 KB, 312x52, ss (2014-11-12 at 04.05.28).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12685203 haha

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 03:08:15 2014 No.12685213 >>12685208 That makes me sad.. really, I have as low as that too. How much is natural regen goes anyway?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 03:09:25 2014 No.12685217 Can't wait for a ShiroProViewer! to get developed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 03:09:56 2014 No.12685219 >>12685208 Gimme some of your grains in exchange for my lumber. Oh I wish though. I have enough for everything except for the foodstuffs my girls consume that'll make even Akagi jealous.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 03:11:52 2014 No.12685224 File: 152 KB, 625x435, Quest80.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm hoping have enough res to finish that one that is already at 80%.. I still don't have any castle with silver background nor have I cleared map 2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 03:56:20 2014 No.12685318 File: 476 KB, 638x426, Shirpro_overview.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm slowly typesetting the tutorial pages with a friend's translations and I'll be uploading them to here and the wikia over time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 04:46:31 2014 No.12685406 >>12685318 Good effort but the translation isn't that good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 04:46:39 2014 No.12685407 File: 887 KB, 500x349, 1409491560240.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12685318 Doing gods work

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 05:04:06 2014 No.12685453 >>12685213 No idea, never bothered to calculate. Only thing I know is the higher rank(more stars) your territory is the more natural regen you get.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 05:05:04 2014 No.12685456 >>12685453 Stars?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 05:08:46 2014 No.12685464 File: 77 KB, 624x217, ss (2014-11-12 at 06.08.11).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12685456

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 05:14:41 2014 No.12685475 File: 577 KB, 800x480, ShiroPro_Engagement_guide_1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's the first page of the engagement guide. I think I'll get to the other two tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 06:58:42 2014 No.12685640 So Kagoshima is a must have right ? Since she got 90 points in the "I'll block the kabuto while everyone escape" (or rear-guard) stat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 07:21:41 2014 No.12685666 >>12685640 Not really. Get your hands on some silver cards if possible, they outperform the pink cards so much that it isn't funny, though they do take alot more to repair and sortie.

Anonymous Wed Nov 12 07:22:45 2014 No.12685667
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>>12685640
This girl? Haven't used her as that, hell I can't even read the last character of that 90 stat.
Her DPS is slow as fuck though, or could be the case of most gun wielding girls. Ironic when she's holding a gatling gun. Her skill though is another story.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 07:43:19 2014 No.12685692 File: 89 KB, 802x580, ss+(2014-11-12+at+04.42.04).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just got catted- oh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 07:57:45 2014 No.12685719 >>12685692 they're updating

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 09:28:56 2014 No.12685874 File: 72 KB, 374x356, ayayayaya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fatigue

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 09:44:15 2014 No.12685913 >>12685667 しんがり

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 09:45:57 2014 No.12685916 I would kill for an account of this right now I even know someone who pre-registered and already said they won't play due to lack of time but they won't give me their account

Anonymous Wed Nov 12 09:49:58 2014 No.12685925

>>12685913
I feel stupid now for not noticing it just because the が and り were quite close to each other. To the rear-guard she goes then, though as much as possible I don't want to end a battle like that as it is still RNG dependent if the girl gets captured or not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 09:52:46 2014 No.12685929 >>12685925 She has over four times the value other girls have in that stat, so I guess her chance to fail is pretty low. If you can spare a slot for her, I think it's not a bad insurance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 09:56:02 2014 No.12685937 >>12685929 Only thing I don't like about her was her slow DPS. It's like one shot for every 4-5 seconds. I still like her either way and has a permanent spot on the 1st group.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 10:21:31 2014 No.12685975 >>12685937 Most cannons are like that. Good thing is they kill anything in one shot if it's a crit. Anyway, has anyone unlocked the 3rd territory or 3rd squadron yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 10:31:16 2014 No.12685984 >>12685975 Got 3rd squad. You have to complete a formation quest with 2 castle in your main squad : the farmer girl (根城), and an oni girl (不来方城)

Anonymous Wed Nov 12 10:36:45 2014 No.12685996

>>12685984
By the way, there's a generic quest chain that follow this patern :
Formation -> Sortie -> Formation -> Sortie...

Formation quest names start with "われらｘ" with x being 平,山,水 or any combinaison of them, most likely.

The idea is to have in your main squad a majority (5 or more) of that type of girl (and only that type. If it ask for "平" only, having 10 "平山" won't do.)
The sortie quest is just to sortie with that squad and use those girls.

I also propose we call those Field, Mountain and River. (There's also a "海-Sea" type but it seems to be akin to "river only")

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 12:18:33 2014 No.12686114 Do we have, if not a traduction, a text format of the stats ? I guess I could translate some of them but I can't make up most of the kanji there, except for the obvious stuff like attack or defense.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 12:28:44 2014 No.12686138 >>12686114 That's not on the JP wiki yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 13:04:25 2014 No.12686200 >>12686138 haven't found it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 13:10:22 2014 No.12686211 >>12686200 That doesn't have the stats you're looking for? http://sc.swiki.jp/index.php?%E5%9F%8E%E5%A8%98%2F%E8%A9%B3%E7%B4%B0%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 14:05:25 2014 No.12686330 >>12686211 Well, it does, thanks. Guess I was blind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 15:04:35 2014 No.12686476 >>12686330 What do I do for this quest? 南部氏ゆかりの「根城」「不来方城」を部隊へ編成せよ I have 不来方城, but I don't know what to do with her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 15:05:46 2014 No.12686481 >>12686476 >>12686330 Didn't mean to quote, my bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 15:12:29 2014 No.12686501 >>12686476 Welp, I feel like an idiot, 根城 is another shirohime. Don't mind my posts

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 17:07:39 2014 No.12686782 http://wikiwiki.jp/shirocolle/ The old wikiwiki back when it was shirocolle is still being updated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 17:35:04 2014 No.12686835 >>12686782 according to this wiki, Kai levels are around 30, and the castle actually change form, such as this one : http://wikiwiki.jp/shirocolle/?%C6%E9%B3%B8%BE%EB%A1%A6%B2%B5%BD%F7%BE%EB

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 20:51:04 2014 No.12687388 Any guide for leveling? One thing bothering me is the repairs are way too often and even though 10 minutes is not that long, it feels like an eternity when there's more than 2 to repairs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 21:01:15 2014 No.12687421 Has anyone had 根城 drop for them? Tried building or farming for heer but to no avail.

Anonymous Wed Nov 12 21:09:59 2014 No.12687442

>>12687388
Grind lower level maps? I raised my girls to level 5 at 1-1 and probably 6-8 or 10 for 1-2 or 1-3. Repairs aren't even that slow, most of my girls get repair times of half to 3 minutes tops.
>>12687421
Was that cowgirl castle? Got her from building, I think it was the default all 50 recipe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 21:16:05 2014 No.12687455 >>12687388 Get to 3-3, easy melee only waves. 370 exp per round. Just pick an easy territory and you're good to go. >>12687442 Used like 30 keystones and didn't get her. It's all なかちゃん　again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 21:18:01 2014 No.12687460 >>12686835 Actually it seems it depends. There is both "improvement kai" and "transformation kai". >>12687388 try to drop advantageous territories and use them on adequates maps, like 3-3.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 21:20:53 2014 No.12687465 >>12687455 I'm lacking the other one though but yeah, it's gonna be 3rd or even 4th fleet quest all over again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 21:38:57 2014 No.12687519 Is there any translated recipes yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 22:22:11 2014 No.12687636 File: 10 KB, 318x49, ss (2014-11-13 at 11.19.39).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's your resource count now /jp/? My gold natural regen are barely keeping up with all these explorations and this is without the third squad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 22:31:22 2014 No.12687656 >>12687636 I'm lacking in rice, it's always under 1k and I'm waiting on it to regen. I also don't have 3rd squad yet. I feel like I'm only spending the other resources on crafting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 23:57:43 2014 No.12687869 Is it possible to load VPN only to reach the game then continue playing it after closing VPN?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 00:06:19 2014 No.12687889 File: 223 KB, 792x475, exped.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Apparently, this happens after you reach the 100% on the bar on explorations. The longer the time, the faster the bar fills it seems.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 00:21:14 2014 No.12687936 Any other tips on 2-6? I can't get past the second wave at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 00:47:47 2014 No.12687996 I'm also having problems with 2-6. What composition did you for it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 00:53:44 2014 No.12688006 >>12687936 >>12687996 Why is searching so hard? >>12683754

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 00:55:02 2014 No.12688010 >>12688006 Do you even read?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 01:27:17 2014 No.12688072 >>12688006 I was looking for other examples of group compositions. I guess I should have been more specific. I don't have castles with that set of skills currently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 01:45:34 2014 No.12688092 >>12687869 Why don't you just use the cookie method?

Anonymous Thu Nov 13 02:07:42 2014 No.12688120

>>12687889
Great success happens randomly. If you reach 100% you get the item reward listed on the exploration screen.

>>12687936
>>12687996
Use ranged castles on the outlying area near the main castles to cover the outer area but also cover the main road slightly. Use a high HP/DEF spear user as main castle, preferably silver background and put 1 or 2 sword melee just beside the main castle to boost def and maintain DPS. When they drop low just replace them with backups.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 02:19:27 2014 No.12688139 File: 198 KB, 300x415, castle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone got her yet? running a wild battle in 1-1 but not seeing her yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 03:04:54 2014 No.12688224 >>12688139 From building using default recipe if I remember correctly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 03:31:56 2014 No.12688271 File: 12 KB, 306x58, ss (2014-11-13 at 04.31.34).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12688224 help

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 03:42:22 2014 No.12688291 >>12688271 I have 100 rice left, help.

Anonymous Thu Nov 13 05:45:33 2014 No.12688476

>>12688271
Well shit do some of your quests first for keystones and take it easy on the crafting. It is gonna be 3rd fleet quest all over again
>>12688291
Do some exploration first. I have noticed food is the most important resource. Mine kept being bled rather fast, faster than a starved Akagi

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 05:51:20 2014 No.12688481 >>12688476 My food ran out for failing 2-6 too much, any kind soul to show me how you place your ranged castle away from the road? maybe I should level up some more then, lvl10 all still doesn't get me pass the second wave.

Anonymous Thu Nov 13 05:58:24 2014 No.12688486

>>12688481
I was just able to clear it. I packed all my ranged units around the castle. near the river to the left and the field down from the castle. so that they would cover the common segment right before the castle. I had just enough dps to just kinda tank and burn everything down. but is was very close.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 07:50:27 2014 No.12688632 File: 82 KB, 812x415, Senko Zzz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone can make a gif of this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 08:05:22 2014 No.12688656 File: 85 KB, 790x399, senko.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12688632 Is this good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 08:06:28 2014 No.12688657 File: 202 KB, 790x399, Senko-Zzz.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12688656

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 09:55:04 2014 No.12688798 >>12688481 My advice is go for half melee and half ranged instead, pack them around the castle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 13:20:33 2014 No.12689288 >>12687889 When you reach 100%, that area levels up and gives you more resources. The requirements for success also change, for example on a level 2 node you'll need a level 5 castle of that territory as the leader.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 14:29:01 2014 No.12689501 twitch tv/marn_stepbrother the kancolle legend himself streaming again

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 22:35:08 2014 No.12690767 File: 103 KB, 649x401, clear 100.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now what? I didn't notice any special gift.

Anonymous Thu Nov 13 23:38:58 2014 No.12690944

Just try to beat the first level boss and lost. Any tips on how to beat it, my unit has 2 gun, 1 bow and 2 sword all level 5. I think my mistake was having a another sword next to my castle and not having the bow next to the castle unit which is also a sword.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 23:39:04 2014 No.12690945 File: 33 KB, 140x140, best face.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post you favorite damage

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 23:41:20 2014 No.12690955 File: 73 KB, 238x379, 御城プロジェクト～CASTLE_DEFENSE～_-_オンラインゲーム_-_DMM.com_-_2014-11-11_23.25.14.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12690945

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 01:01:02 2014 No.12691167 File: 32 KB, 632x81, ss (2014-11-14 at 02.00.36).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 01:03:47 2014 No.12691175 Most of the girls are ugly. I want to give up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 02:10:27 2014 No.12691290 Maintenance in 50mins, lasts for an hour. Open to all now instead of people who pre-registered early, balance adjustments etc etc.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Fri Nov 14 05:01:07 2014 No.12691823 >>12691290 Maintenance over. Thanks.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Fri Nov 14 05:30:40 2014 No.12691937 Emergency maintenance executed 5 minutes ago.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 05:40:51 2014 No.12691965 >>12691937 god damnit man. the sucks today

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 05:41:58 2014 No.12691968 >>12691965 the dev i mean

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 08:27:51 2014 No.12696321 File: 118 KB, 634x416, senko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fox god a kute

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 10:41:23 2014 No.12696581 Anyone unlocked third territory slot yet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:03:31 2014 No.12696634 Have we found anything like API links for shiropro?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:08:53 2014 No.12696647 >>12696634 Did we even look for it? Cookie method works fine enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:13:00 2014 No.12696659 >>12696647 Sure would prefer not to rely on that

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:13:36 2014 No.12696662 >>12696581 Nope, I was hoping 3-10 would unlock it. Anyone here cleared world 4?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:18:06 2014 No.12696671 File: 1021 KB, 1145x840, mini hiei, gwen and castle kongou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12691175 Yeah, not that many that I really like. But from those that I have, these are probably my favorites

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:22:07 2014 No.12696679 >>12696659 Just tried looking for it and there doesn't seem to be an Api like there is for Kancolle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:25:53 2014 No.12696685 File: 67 KB, 404x341, ion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12696671 Top right reminds me of a certain Gust girl.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Sat Nov 15 11:28:25 2014 No.12696696 >>12696671 Their chibi forms are cute and deserve some praise.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:31:15 2014 No.12696701 >>12696696 That they are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:37:51 2014 No.12696718 A quest for a second method of construction (takes more materials, so similar to large ship crafting I assume) unlocks at level 19, but you can't complete it until level 20. According to the wiki a third method also unlocks at level 40.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 11:48:22 2014 No.12696739 File: 53 KB, 620x166, new quest1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12696718 This? I don't know how to clear this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 12:00:33 2014 No.12696759 >>12696739 Get to level 20

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 12:04:26 2014 No.12696768 >>12696759 I'll reach that level someday, but not at this wee hour. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 22:10:11 2014 No.12698450 File: 66 KB, 417x301, 5hr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12696739 >>12696718 It actually makes the normal construction using more materials.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 22:13:03 2014 No.12698457 File: 125 KB, 576x388, construction.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12698450 wrong pic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 16 09:07:40 2014 No.12699796 File: 71 KB, 800x171, level up.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Leveling for kai, don't have kai at this level..

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 16 09:52:04 2014 No.12699946 >>12698450 What recipe did you use for that 5h ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 16 17:38:30 2014 No.12701427 How do I effectively grind on 1-1 or any early map? I started today and so far an archer plus a spear user just above the bridge to home works at rather minimal cost. Is it possible to economically solo this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 16 18:13:30 2014 No.12701536 >>12699946 Just a random all 10 with normal stone, but after the construction starts taking more material.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 17 03:17:21 2014 No.12703032 Weird thing I never pre-registered and yet could enter the game just fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 17 21:33:49 2014 No.12705480 So what's stopping me from spamming 1-1 non-stop? By that I mean, how does fatigue work here, if anyone has figured it out yet.

Anonymous Mon Nov 17 22:01:43 2014 No.12705544
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>>12705480
I don't know about their morale since we can't see them but fatigue does exist >>12685874, you girl name will turn red and there's an alert on main page as well.

When this happens it seemed like you won't be able to go out sortie at all and have to wait for a while. There of course have a pillow icon available on the organization page to remove fatigue but I never use them yet, just wait a 10 minutes or use another party.

also, I want this back..

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 17 22:10:11 2014 No.12705576 >>12705544 How much exp do you get now? I saw that but never got the chance to try it out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 17 22:12:28 2014 No.12705586 >>12705576 This is the max we can get >>12699796 , I can't solo it yet. also pardon my terms used, I don't quite follow the english wiki name.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 17 22:19:37 2014 No.12705618 >>12705544 You can sortie but tired castle girls deal next to nil damage if you place them in battle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 17 22:20:38 2014 No.12705624 >>12705586 Is it more efficient to solo? Also, I'm higher level than that guy, and I still don't have any castles above level 25. Wish I had gotten a chance to grind before the exp was lowered.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 17 22:23:35 2014 No.12705635 >>12705624 That was mine, the lesser girl you use the more exp gain. I should have rushed clearing 2-6 had I know the maintenance was reducing it. >>12705618 Ah thanks for more information, so its still not advisable to use them. noted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 00:07:09 2014 No.12705843 >>12705635 What's the easiest map to solo in terms of exp gain?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 00:12:00 2014 No.12705853 Hey has anyone figured out the rarity system in this game?

Anonymous Tue Nov 18 00:18:05 2014 No.12705866
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>>12705843
Any of those 1-3,3-3 where you can set map to your advantages as long you can tank them solo. 3-3 a best for now.

>>12705853
I use 4,6,6,3 and can get this.. probably random or low chance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 00:23:53 2014 No.12705874 File: 103 KB, 643x386, castle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My rice get empty in just an hour by using her.. This will take a while to level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 00:32:05 2014 No.12705889 >>12705866 I used all 10s to get her or was it all 4s? Is there a list of recipes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 00:40:00 2014 No.12705902 >>12705889 All 8 and 4663 seem to be the most used ones right now on the jap wiki.

Anonymous Tue Nov 18 00:43:47 2014 No.12705910
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Is there any other projectile weapon that increase attack speed? so Far I only have this one +8 and another one +12 attack speed green gun.

Other weapon will be good too, this can be crafted using 5/5/5/10

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 03:33:21 2014 No.12706196 Senkosama is sleeping ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 03:53:07 2014 No.12706242 Can someone gives a rough translation of the twitter? something about the level 20 kai..

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 04:42:58 2014 No.12706384 >>12706242 I wish. It's about the building contract you get at dono-level 20.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 07:02:03 2014 No.12706772 Is there any way I can get more than 1 extra formation? Just 1 expedition at a time seems really slow

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 07:47:49 2014 No.12706887 File: 38 KB, 638x74, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Could someone translate this for me? My moon is lacking

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 07:55:13 2014 No.12706901 >>12706772 Finish the 南部鶴の御旗のもとに quest. >>12706887 Finish 10 sorties.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 08:05:25 2014 No.12706924 Here I was hoping the maint will give back the 1k exp... I am sad.

Anonymous Tue Nov 18 09:37:37 2014 No.12707220

Started two or three days ago and it feels like grinding is unbelievably slow.
Using 1-3 or 1-4 for very low level units, especially melee, is hell because of the damn sturdy enemies. 1-1 I can essentially level non-stop by always swapping between two girls that each completely stop one stream and leaving the main castle fatigued since nothing ever gets there

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 11:30:20 2014 No.12707499 >>12707220 Unlock 3-3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 12:14:22 2014 No.12707582 So what does the 会心 stat actually do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 12:19:11 2014 No.12707592 >>12707582 I guessed it has something to do with likeliness to get fatigue fast, but I never paid attention to who get fatigued first, or even test it, since I rotate my girls pretty randomly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 12:46:16 2014 No.12707640 File: 208 KB, 796x482, uwahhh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] M-Muh castlefu

Anonymous Tue Nov 18 12:57:19 2014 No.12707666

>>12707592
The one who always fatigues first for me in my current main grinding rotation has 97 会心 (spear) while the other two have 52 (bow) and 64 (sword). I tried switching it up so she has gets MVP in every battle, but she still gets fatigued first.

Perhaps it does affect fatigue, but weapon type more so. I'll see if I can test it with girls of the same type later.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 13:35:22 2014 No.12707762 >>12707582 That's the "critical" stat that handles how often your girls weapon skill procs

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 13:36:24 2014 No.12707766 >>12707499 I have only 3 girls above level 10. All melee. I can probably barely scratch the enemies in 3-3 even if I could get there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 13:53:21 2014 No.12707815 >>12707640 Why is she so best?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 14:35:52 2014 No.12707933 >>12707815 Because she's best Secretary. It won't be long before a marriage feature At lvl 99.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 14:38:33 2014 No.12707939 Should I keep aiming for 5 hour crafts? Don't have a single one yet Just started out, cleared up to world 2

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 15:06:55 2014 No.12708046 File: 817 KB, 791x475, ss (2014-11-18 at 06.00.03).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12705889 I just used 4/6/6/4 and got her.

Anonymous Tue Nov 18 15:08:02 2014 No.12708051
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Got my first rainbow with lvl 20 construction today. 8/8/8/8

>>12707939
I think silvers are fine too, carried me through world 3 with them being 10~ levels and main castle 20.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 15:08:56 2014 No.12708056 Oh fuck, i preregistered this way back but i forgot my id when i stopped playing kancolle.

Anonymous Tue Nov 18 15:24:25 2014 No.12708113
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>>12707666
Pic related, taken from baidu

>>12707762
Critical is only double damage. Skill proc is depending on your 技能 stat.

>>12707766
The game is easier than you think.

>>12707939
5 hour castles are like Yamatos, you don't really need them for early map clearing. Get some good silvers and you're good to go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 15:26:21 2014 No.12708120 >>12708056 >>12691290 >Open to all now instead of people who pre-registered early

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 15:32:50 2014 No.12708141 >>12708120 thanks anon, ill just create another throwaway email.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:21:18 2014 No.12708276 >>12708113 How much more HP do the enemies in 3-3 have compared to 1-1?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:24:21 2014 No.12708290 >>12708046 She's quite popular Pretty good stats too

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:36:24 2014 No.12708320 >>12708120 Fuck me for reading this, I don't want to be tempted to play this too; Kancolle already eats up enough time. It was a lot easier to ignore when I thought I couldn't play anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:40:02 2014 No.12708331 >>12708320 Be a hero and play both at the same time. Shirocolle involves a fair amount of waiting

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:43:39 2014 No.12708339 >>12708320 You can't multitask? I'm playing Kancolle, Kanpani girls and this. It's not hard, since there's wait time in all of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:46:04 2014 No.12708346 File: 202 KB, 796x478, I don't remember what happened to my gold.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12708320 Come on anon, you know you want to play with your castlefus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:49:07 2014 No.12708355 File: 3.89 MB, 846x5000, erheh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It seems like 4/6/6/3 is silver recipe. Got some of silvers by using it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:50:39 2014 No.12708365 Problem with this, i know next to nothing about nip castles. Doubt i'll have the same attachment to the girls like to my shipfus.

Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:52:13 2014 No.12708373
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>>12708276
~110 for rabbits, ~250 for humanoids and a little bit less than 2x that for the fire spitters, no air units. If you do it on easy maps like 越中 you can even grind there without taking any damage provided that you set up your units properly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 16:56:47 2014 No.12708389 >>12708365 I doubt most people playing Kancolle knew anything about ships before it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 17:23:38 2014 No.12708442 >>12708373 What kind of firepower do I need to clear 2-5? I only have a couple of silvers

Anonymous Tue Nov 18 18:16:38 2014 No.12708617

>>12708339
I had wait time in Kancolle early on, but these days it's all about buckets. Especially with the current event, combined fleet runs take so long that I don't have fatigue to worry about either. I'd have to make Shiropro the primary game with Kancolle filling in the wait times.

At least I'm not tempted to play Chinkcolle too since I don't understand the slightest bit of Chinese. Andrea Doria is all that's drawing my interest there and I can just look at her art instead of playing.

>>12708365
I know a bit about castles from playing Sengoku games, but not remotely as much as I learned about the historical figures involved.

>>12708389
Just like with Strike Witches, the WW2 aspect was key in drawing me to Kancolle in the first place. Then of course I learned more in the course of playing as I read up on the historical references. Here I'm not sure I'd be as motivated to go out of my way to do that research.

The fact that it's tower defense makes it sound a lot more interesting as a game than Kancolle though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 18:53:48 2014 No.12708709 >>12708355 I've actually gotten the 4th one with just daily crafting, so that's something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 19:35:39 2014 No.12708805 File: 71 KB, 300x415, 小田喜城.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I went full retard and decided to grind her to 35 solo in 1-1 because I love her remodel version. She's 26 now and I don't have anyone else even above 20

Anonymous Tue Nov 18 20:05:54 2014 No.12708890

Is it some of the girls you get as drop carries an extra better equipment with them? not sure if they are those founds from the expedition.

As precaution with the lock, I let my main copy of each girls to carry two weapon and the extras carries default or none. but somehow when I'm doing feeding, the will be some of the copies that has good equipment with them.

Anyone else can confirm?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 20:10:14 2014 No.12708912 >>12708890 I can confirm that some girls do come with an extra equip, but I can't confirm if they come from expedition or drops.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 20:13:19 2014 No.12708922 >>12708912 Thanks, more reason to check on those copies from now and then. Good thing feeding will tell us if they have equips.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 21:27:47 2014 No.12709084 I can't seem to finish this quest. >われら平城 >Add at least 5 Plains castles into a team. Do I need to do something after forming the team ? Like kancolle "form XX fleet and sortie to Y-Y stage" ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 21:29:10 2014 No.12709090 >>12709084 It needs to be 5 girls that are pure plains. plains + mountain girls don't count

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 21:34:27 2014 No.12709108 which is best starter?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 21:35:30 2014 No.12709114 >>12709090 Thanks, someone in wiki comment posted misleading pictures then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 21:36:08 2014 No.12709118 >>12709108 Cowboyhat girl, 3rd squad quest requires her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 21:54:50 2014 No.12709163 >>12709118 ok thanks. this is kinda hard right? the 2nd stage killed me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 22:01:01 2014 No.12709181 Why the hell there's no sorting by luck in the drop down menu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 22:05:29 2014 No.12709191 >>12708922 There's no point to it, those equips are pretty shit anyway. The best equips you can get comes from crafting and exploration rewards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 22:30:05 2014 No.12709267 >>12709181 There's still no conclusion on what luck does though, my 5 luck castle gets as many extra reward as my 200 luck castle does, and it doesn't seem to affect success rate either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 18 23:59:52 2014 No.12709501 Oh shit, just realized I wasn't using the upgraded construction thing you get at level 20. Mabye my crafting will be better now. Anyone got a good weapon crafting recipe? I need to get a good speed and range sword so I can solo grind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 00:12:16 2014 No.12709525 >>12709501 5/5/5/5 and replace one of the resources with 10 depending on what weapon you want. Equal distribution gives horses mostly. Wood = Bow Stone = Sword Iron = Spear Gold = Gun

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 00:13:36 2014 No.12709526 >>12709501 I got a few holo swords with 6/10/6/6.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 00:18:45 2014 No.12709528 why is there low rarity castles that have huge attacks? Like the glasses girl, Wakimoto i think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 00:19:53 2014 No.12709530 >>12709526 What are the stats? I'm planning to empty my gold

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 00:22:02 2014 No.12709532 >>12709526 >6/10/6/6 I forgot, how do i read that? upper left / lower left / upper right / lower right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 00:28:10 2014 No.12709540 >>12709532 6 10 6 6

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 00:28:12 2014 No.12709541 >>12709532 Upper left / upper right / lower left / lower right. >>12709530 Nothing too great, two +13 attack +5 human and a +12 attack +7 human.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 01:47:42 2014 No.12709683 Does this game have time-based RNG or something? Usually what happens when I craft back to back I either get 2 pinks or 2 silvers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 01:54:36 2014 No.12709697 >>12709683 I get the same exact crafts when I spam it within the same minute Literally same timing, same castles

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 01:57:04 2014 No.12709705 >>12709697 Yeah I got a few of those too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 03:33:26 2014 No.12709941 File: 190 KB, 796x478, cwb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If anyone doesn't have her for the 2nd squad quest. She can be crafted from the default recipe. 30 min. timer if I remember correctly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 04:32:33 2014 No.12710060 How did you guys survive 4-4? The tanks just blitz through the left lane and wreck the flag castle before my defenders could kill them all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 04:34:26 2014 No.12710067 >>12709941 Also, I got one from plains expedition.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 04:54:39 2014 No.12710123 >>12710060 Use a high HP/DEF spear castle as main and build melees around the middle island to stack def bonus, 1 or 2 ranged near main castle to take care of air units.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 10:56:16 2014 No.12710770 Could anyone give me any tips for 1-5? The boss just kills my main with two hits. How much should I grind?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 10:59:29 2014 No.12710778 >>12710770 Range units are key I use two gunners and three archers with a spear user as home castle the range units are all setup just north of where the paths converge for maximum carnage

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Wed Nov 19 11:02:19 2014 No.12710787 >>12710770 1 or 2 archers in the left mountain, gunners along the plains, when the boss walks past your ranged units, make them retreat, redeploy ranged units and/or deploy melee close together with your home castle for bonus defense of 30%.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 11:42:43 2014 No.12710872 >>12709941 Both of them dropped for me in both 1-1 and 3-3, though the drop rate for new castles feels practically non-existent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 11:45:03 2014 No.12710877 File: 751 KB, 796x474, ss (2014-11-20 at 01.43.23).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12710787 >>12710778 Thanks, I just beat it by following your tips. And then got this castlefu with 4/6/6/4.

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Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Wed Nov 19 12:29:29 2014 No.12710957

I'm starting to think that the luck stat affects Yakumo's random weather assistance. On my mix team of all weapon types with average total luck, I only get rain, but with an all ranged lineup+1sword home castle with somewhat higher total luck, I get rain(slow) and lightning bolts (damage). The levels of the unit and the map might related too.

By the way, is Kozukata's recipe all minimum 50s? She won't drop just like Sendai in Kancolle. Fuck this shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 13:08:05 2014 No.12711036 >>12710957 Weather is only affected by maps as far as I know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 14:44:22 2014 No.12711235 >>12710901 much appreciated!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 15:22:20 2014 No.12711332 Is it like kancolle in that most castles are garbage like the biggest portion of destroyers and light cruisers? Also how does exploration work? Composition based like kancolle or on pure luck?

Anonymous Wed Nov 19 16:12:16 2014 No.12711445

>>12711332
I'll have to say some castles are really aren't any useful for me and they drop quite often, not to mention we can't have any copies used on the other formation party at all.

Exploration is composition based, and there's still chances you'd fail. so both?

Anonymous Wed Nov 19 16:40:42 2014 No.12711506

>>12711332
There are 3 places you can send your girls to explore (mountains, water, plains) it's best if the type of the girl fits the one you want to send them to.
After an area reaches 100% I think you get some equip reward and then it resets, the requirements seem to increase. What kind of resources you'll get also depends on the place.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 17:22:06 2014 No.12711612 Anyone got some tips for 3-8?

Anonymous Wed Nov 19 17:30:57 2014 No.12711642

The castles that seem useless at first do have sometimes their uses.
They could get a remodel, or they have high stat caps and not a huge cost.
For example, Sakado-jo costs 34 rice to deploy. Her attack speed is high, her skill stat is really high and her attack cap is enormous. She has over 220 attack and 46 range with two long swords and I still haven't maxed her attack.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 17:54:48 2014 No.12711698 File: 188 KB, 801x481, Loli with knife.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That looks cute and dangerous at the same time.. Anyone had luck getting the twin archers? wiki mentioned a drop at 1-1 but no luck so far.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 17:59:01 2014 No.12711714 >>12711698 Got them a while ago grinding 1-5.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 17:59:51 2014 No.12711717 >>12711714 Same here, got them today actually.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 18:00:40 2014 No.12711720 >>12711714 >>12711717 W-wow.. okay I'm heading there to farm form gold stone as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 18:07:49 2014 No.12711747 >>12711698 Got them three times so far at 1-1

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 18:12:07 2014 No.12711760 File: 16 KB, 536x72, 2014-11-20 00-11-24.600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have some ridiculously unbalanced res

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 18:17:29 2014 No.12711778 File: 13 KB, 405x55, I need to stop crafting jesus fuck.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12711760 help

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 18:19:57 2014 No.12711782 >>12711778 I set both my estates for maximum gold regen wood and stone you get in such excess from repeated 1-1 runs and expeditions you'll drown rice and iron also come plentiful if you do 1-1 solo runs and have expeditions running

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 18:23:23 2014 No.12711796 >>12711782 Thanks for the tips, haven't tried solo running yet

Anonymous Wed Nov 19 18:32:39 2014 No.12711822

>>12711796
You will obviously take some damage and it's not reasonably possible to solo with a gunner or archer (Exception: Archers with 70 speed, 130+ attack and a damage skill can do it)
I rotate a spear user, an archer and a melee in 1-1 solo. Thinking about buying 2 repair slots to actually do this with more castles

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 19 23:34:53 2014 No.12712522 File: 84 KB, 280x280, 1416457210660.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Maintenance soon.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Thu Nov 20 04:26:30 2014 No.12713176 File: 45 KB, 300x415, Kitanosho Castle 7-7-7-10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Maintenance ended around an hour ago. Got a stand-user from 7-7-7-10 default stone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 05:05:48 2014 No.12713233 >>12713176 Good to know senko wokes up.. what's new fixes?

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Thu Nov 20 05:10:44 2014 No.12713247 >>12713233 They fixed the wrong skill value of renovated castles and the resource caps. They gave 3 talismans as an apology. I think it protects from being kidnapped once.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 05:43:25 2014 No.12713265
File: 186 KB, 801x481, this is screenshot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

So I was picking my pizza just now and had my pc restart while the stage is still running (thank you windows update), but once I log back into the game it straight away brings me back to this stage and resume the battle from where I last remember..

It seems that if you get cut while doing a stage you have no worries about it and able to resume on next login.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 05:45:18 2014 No.12713266 >>12713265 Okay, tested. If you F5 midgame, on your next login you'll resume where you were last before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 05:46:50 2014 No.12713267 >>12713265 How did you get headphones girl by the way?

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Thu Nov 20 05:47:25 2014 No.12713269 >>12713266 I had an instance where I got a server error, all 6 units were deployed but when I got back to the game, it went back to wave 1 fresh start.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 05:49:40 2014 No.12713271 >>12713269 It seems that it will restart the last wave you had. >>12713267 I got few of her by doing random 4664, and some 3-3 clear.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 05:56:35 2014 No.12713284 >>12682493 OLET was pretty much a straight clone of kancolle that came out only a few months ago, it was also kadokawa too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 06:17:45 2014 No.12713321 >>12713269 It saves at the end of every wave.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 06:19:27 2014 No.12713322 Castles? Really? If this catches on I hope it leads to a new use for the word "castling".

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 06:35:18 2014 No.12713341 Doujins where your castles get kidnapped and turned into cumsluts before you can ransom them when?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 06:41:03 2014 No.12713362 Does this one have no API links? That's unfortunate.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Thu Nov 20 06:41:49 2014 No.12713365 >>12713321 I see. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 06:47:54 2014 No.12713379 >>12713362 I got the api link but it seems like it refreshed after just 30min - 1 hour.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 06:49:25 2014 No.12713381 5-10 unlocks 3rd territory.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 06:49:49 2014 No.12713383 >>12713362 >>12713379 Link refreshes roughly every hour so it's not really worth the effort.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 06:53:31 2014 No.12713389 Another maintenance on 21st 1100~1200 JST

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 06:54:12 2014 No.12713390 >>12713381 Thanks. Any idea what levels 4 and 5 world needs?

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 07:01:28 2014 No.12713402

>>12713390
久保田城, 佐賀城 and 佐賀城 are really good melee DPS that you should get, 水戸城 has a really good huge area damage buff. Ranged units are alot less useful and melee DPS is very crucial in 5-8 onwards. Optimal composition for most maps would be 2-3 cannons, 0-1 bow, 2-3 spear (1 as castle) 3-5 swords.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 07:03:59 2014 No.12713405 >>12713402 Forgot to mention 盛岡城. She's another really good melee DPS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 07:11:12 2014 No.12713413 >>12713402 Oh thank you, just need to find one and grind them all to remodel level. I've been relying too much on expensive silvers.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 07:21:20 2014 No.12713424

>>12713413
Resources will soon be the least of your worries when you are grinding at 3-3. Maps up to 5-7 are not really that hard, 5-8 is when it starts to get a little challenging and 5-10 is on another level itself. I'd recommend you to remodel your sword castle's damage to at least half of its upgradable value.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 07:25:40 2014 No.12713430 Can enemies get past the home castle without destroying her first, or can I win easy sorties by having her facetank the entire enemy fleet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 07:28:46 2014 No.12713436 >>12713430 No, they will take a stop and bully your main castle first.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 07:43:26 2014 No.12713445 Do we have a general idea on what early objectives should be? Does this have expeditions or some other resource-gathering minigame? Can castles die permanently? Are minimum-resource recipes worthwhile?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 08:39:30 2014 No.12713517 >>12713430 Nope, your hq is the enemy's target. If she's destroyed, it's game over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 08:56:28 2014 No.12713542 >>12713341 Too soon I am still busy killing all the artists that draw Kancolle stuff like that

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 08:59:43 2014 No.12713553 Anyone else getting really long load times for this? Is it less optimized than Kancolle or is it just under heavy player load?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:10:00 2014 No.12713581 >>12713271 That's from the LSC type of crafting right? I have to unlock it yet. Still haven't tried 1-5 since I was grinding my castles to 10 before tackling it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:11:58 2014 No.12713584 >>12713553 Might just be bad routing for your ISP, try with a VPN and see if it persists. Don't know about other games, but servers for shirocolle are hosted by Amazon.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:14:42 2014 No.12713587

>>12713581
No, just a normal one. I'm too lazy to change the plan since I never get anyone over 2hours build time using that one yet.

also each time I use the gold stone, why is it ALWAYS a 30minutes build ;_;
The only time I get a 5hour is by using normal stone, normal plan and all 8.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:17:36 2014 No.12713594 >>12713587 So I assume 4664 would be in hundreds? I'm kinda confused with what value we're using here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:22:32 2014 No.12713600 File: 251 KB, 1144x381, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12713581 >LSC type It uses more res, but not that much more. Anyway, there's another at 40 as well right?

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:24:13 2014 No.12713605

>>12713581
Fellow new player here, 1-5 wasn't too bad. I cleared it with 2 swords 2 cannons 1 bow, not including my home castle since she never actually hit anything. Granted, I had one really good cannon with an AOE attack that vaporized the entire 4th wave for me.

Main piece of advice I can give is that the boss hits like a truck, so don't put any ranged castles in melee range, and don't let your melee castles take too much of a beating. Both of mine were left at very low red HP from the boss.

Speaking of which, can you lose castles permanently in this?

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:25:41 2014 No.12713606

>>12713600
I have no idea. To be honest, even though I pre-registered, I didn't play that much considering I was too busy pulling my hairs out because my ships back at KC kept fucking up when I'm only one kill away from clearing E4 so I settle down here for a bit, training my castles to level 10 before we hit 1-5.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:27:39 2014 No.12713610

>>12713605
I'm not really that new though since I pre-registered and only came for some R&R from KC but anyway, you can lose them permanently. If you lose a battle, there are chances your girls can be kidnapped when fleeing the battlefield. You need to pay a ransom in 24hrs or so else they'll be gone forever, probably sold off to slavery or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:30:52 2014 No.12713619 >>12713594 Look at the numbers above the res amount during crafting/building. >>12713600 Yes, can't show you now because I don't have any keystones. Uses like 1.8k stones and 2k gold at 10, wood and iron should be 750 if I'm remembering it correctly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:32:49 2014 No.12713624 >>12713619 Ah, so that was you were referring at. I never put too much attention on it since I only pile the resources like you would on KC.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:34:15 2014 No.12713626 File: 125 KB, 575x385, 4664.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12713594 No, when building, you do notice the numbers 1~10 there right? Here is 4/6/6/4, don't worry about the cost since this is under the slightly expensive plan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:35:07 2014 No.12713627 >>12713610 They really made this game with doujinshi in mind I see. Does that happen if they hit 0 HP and you win or if you hit the flag icon in the bottom right? (Which I'm assuming is for surrender.) Or only when you lose your home castle?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:35:42 2014 No.12713628 File: 120 KB, 563x336, ss (2014-11-20 at 10.34.41).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12713600 Nevermind, just got one.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:38:16 2014 No.12713629

>>12713627
Only when the main castle falls. After that you'll pick someone to be a rear guard, or the bait if you put it bluntly. Your girls will then run for it while the rear guard will lag behind. They have a stat that will determine whether or not she gets captured. Also, if some of your girls tripped while fleeing and your rear-guard gets captured, she'll be captured as well so be careful when choosing rear-guards.
If a castle falls that isn't in the HQ, you don't lose her. You can repair her from 1hp.
>>12713626
Yeah saw it. Turns out I input it in increments of hundreds which was more expensive and still got a shitty castle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:39:20 2014 No.12713630 >>12713628 Does it give rare stuff more often?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:44:51 2014 No.12713635 File: 13 KB, 304x59, ss (2014-11-20 at 10.44.12).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12713630 No idea, since I'm really low on gold with all that expedition running and crafting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 09:45:10 2014 No.12713637 >>12713627 Forgot to add that I haven't hit the flag icon yet. Never surrender like they say. So yeah it can happen since I've read something about it.The one I said is when the main castle falls.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 10:26:11 2014 No.12713704 >>12713424 Is most of map 5 ground units then? I got lucky with early builds and I want to know whether to dump resources into leveling Odani (high hp, high attack, no AA) or Shuri (high AA and range) to put as main castle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 10:33:36 2014 No.12713711 >>12713704 You will almost always want to have a castle with high HP and DEF (spear castle) as your main castle. If you're against air units you can always position a bow castle beside your castle and rotate damage skills to kill them.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Thu Nov 20 10:37:54 2014 No.12713716 File: 7 KB, 317x60, Just one more.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I stop myself from crafting? Save me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 10:40:52 2014 No.12713723 File: 300 KB, 300x415, 1416239056631.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12713716 You don't. 50 minute timers are the worst.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 10:43:45 2014 No.12713730 File: 192 KB, 417x338, 1416490896000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good lord.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 10:53:26 2014 No.12713749 >>12713730 >消費資源　木110 石90 米527

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 11:03:51 2014 No.12713760 >正式オープン記念 >経験値UPキャンペーン >11/21(金) 12時より実施予定 >これに伴い直前ﾒﾝﾃﾅﾝｽ　21(金)11:00～12:00 >サーバー状況次第では　入場制限あり Something about an EXP up campaign. After this maintenance, I guess?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 11:06:51 2014 No.12713765 >>12713760 Noice. 3-3 is killing my rice, is exploration and lands producing rice the only option?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 11:18:10 2014 No.12713794 How useful are swords with the self-heal ability? Should I instead focus on damage buffs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 11:18:24 2014 No.12713796 >>12713765 Pretty much, but it starts adding up fast once you stop the grind for a bit. Map 4 and 5 also give great rice rewards for completing the map so you won't be losing much while progressing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 12:01:57 2014 No.12713893 So has anyone found anything with interesting abilities yet? So far all I've seen are AoE attack, AoE damage buff, AoE range buff, map-wide damage buff, and self-heal.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 12:11:50 2014 No.12713911

>>12713893
There's a map-wide damaging skill, which probably makes her the most desirable castle to have.

http://wikiwiki.jp/shirocolle/?%B4%DD%B5%B5%BE%EB

There's also the map-wide large range buff from zondag girl. Nothing really interesting though.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 14:07:41 2014 No.12714079

>>12708346
So against my better judgement I decided to start playing this Tuesday evening. Ended up spending all night playing and reading JP Wikipedia about my girls. Although at least my Okinawan loli starter had an English wiki page to read instead.

1-5 actually wasn't that hard (and I had no castles over lvl 5), although I went in prepared. I fucked up though with my gunner placements as they were slightly too close to the roads, resulting in massive repair bills (especially with Saika, my lone grey-background castle). And my full-map attack buff turned out not to finish charging until the boss was halfway to the main castle. I managed to follow that up with about as much damage on 2-1 thanks to not realizing fliers would come from due east; maintenance interrupted it but unfortunately too late to fix my positioning.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 14:18:57 2014 No.12714088 The attack hardcap for melee girls, through modernizing, is ridiculously high. Takes ages to upgrade that high. I think I've used like 400 drops from 1-1 on two or three girls and none are at cap

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 16:20:43 2014 No.12714290 File: 170 KB, 800x479, oh baby.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12713911 Just got her with 4/6/6/3 lvl 20 construction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 17:15:05 2014 No.12714360 >>12714290 Normal stone?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 17:17:32 2014 No.12714365 >>12714360 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 17:38:22 2014 No.12714378 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vBNEL9R_qc ShiroPro PV

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 18:18:19 2014 No.12714442 Holo ships don't exist, I'm pretty sure of it

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 18:24:07 2014 No.12714455 Building in this is a lot worse than Kancolle, everything is 30 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 18:52:05 2014 No.12714496 >>12714455 30 minutes is better than 50 minutes, at least it doesn't take as long to wait out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 19:33:19 2014 No.12714565 File: 150 KB, 664x419, cute tan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I didn't pay much attention before. but she is cute. >>12714378 Now we need a MAD for this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 19:54:46 2014 No.12714604 >>12714565 I was playing around with her when I started and I did the mistake of not noticing her consumption.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 20:34:10 2014 No.12714687 So is the basic recipe worth any significant investment in? I'm only getting crap out of it, even with stuff like 8/8/8/8 and 10/10/10/10

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 20:39:09 2014 No.12714698

>>12714687
It's just luck, I find the new builder to be a bigger waste of resources because I was getting the same shit with the standard one. I'm sure there is some small statistical advantage to using the newer one, but we don't know how big the difference is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 20:50:08 2014 No.12714717 File: 357 KB, 640x758, ok.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12714455

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 20:51:54 2014 No.12714724 >>12714687 All 10 got me a 5 hour timer first try. Zelda castle. all 8 got me the stand user

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 20:54:37 2014 No.12714729 >>12714717 I feel you bruh, all the time too and a 19 each and everytime I used gold stone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:01:00 2014 No.12714742 Senko-sama's sleep time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:01:09 2014 No.12714743 1 hour maintenance. Only thing I dislike about this game is how little keystones they give compared to KanColle's dev mats.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:03:48 2014 No.12714749 >>12714743 Less keystones just means more expensive recipes in my book.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:04:54 2014 No.12714753 >>12714743 Keystones number aren't bad at all, its the shitty timer you get even with an all 10 or 8 or gold stones ;_;

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:05:51 2014 No.12714754 Castles that change class when they remodel are, quite literally, worse than hitler.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:08:09 2014 No.12714758 >>12714754 The bad ones are: Sword / Spear / Bow going Gun Long-range Sword / Spear going Melee Sword / Spear

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:08:25 2014 No.12714759 >>12714754 Especially when over half of them turn into a musket, I have enough muskets as it is god dammit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:10:46 2014 No.12714765 >>12714758 What's the consensus on ranged swords/spears anyway? Seems like they're pretty solid in general for having stats on par with bows while also granting the melee adjacency bonus and they typically have strong skills.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:11:15 2014 No.12714767 Just curious, what is your base level and what is your highest castle level? Mine is 30 while the bunny with headphones Shikano is at 40.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:12:31 2014 No.12714770 >>12714753 I am currently trying to craft good equipments. There's a horse that gives you +15 to attack range. Haven't gotten one after like 30 keystones. Shit is harder to craft than type 32 radar.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:14:25 2014 No.12714778

>>12714765
Not all of them are good. Most of the silver and holo ones are pretty good up to amazing but the common ones can be really shit.
The bonus is just for blocking damage so they're completely pointless if they're not placed just behind someone who is standing up front. The most OP are ranged spears because their weapon skill will hit anything in their huge range. Gunners with high attack speed and high skill are also godly. Archer just need really high attack, critical and attack speed while Melee can get away with lower offense if they have really high defense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:16:18 2014 No.12714785 File: 284 KB, 302x416, 3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12714767 Base level 34, highest is Morioka at 44 because of so much 3-3 spamming.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:16:24 2014 No.12714787

>>12714767
I only started a few days ago and I prefer to grind 1-1 solo so I have one 35 spear girl while I'm lvl 22
Got another lvl 30 archer. And then a 27 melee and 25 melee, both yamagirls though
Need to train a pure plains for the high level plains expedition as hills type is not valid for the main-castle-type + level requirement (Plains 3 needs a level 15 pure plains castle)

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:16:36 2014 No.12714790 >>12714778 >ranged spears Anyone you'd recommend?

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:25:16 2014 No.12714812

>>12714790
I only know of a single ranged spear girl. I haven't browsed the wiki that much.
http://wikiwiki.jp/shirocolle/?%B1%A7%C5%D4%B5%DC%BE%EB

Attack cap is always really high for sword and spear girls so she can probably go over 200 attack with equip

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:32:32 2014 No.12714831 Where should I stop at for this game, I'm currently at 3-3 10k+ everything except gold which is stuck at 6k from expeditions Zero holos because fuck me Should I craft or just grind stuff?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:33:56 2014 No.12714836 >>12714831 I pretty much got every possible 1-1 drop by soloing 1-1 until my mini-sailor saturn got 35. got a single holo (Zelda castle) from 10 all crafting and a whole bunch of silvers from 4663 and 2 from 8 all

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:34:30 2014 No.12714838 >>12714812 200 attack is useless with that attack speed at 5-10. All you need is level multiple good sword melees and rotate them when they get low.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:40:59 2014 No.12714861 >>12714838 Because all of us are at 5-10, dude. No we're not, most of us aren't even in world 4.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:45:51 2014 No.12714871 >>12714861 You gotta progress if you want that third territory, it's more important than just grinding.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:48:40 2014 No.12714877 So should I just stop using a castle if they turn into a cannon at remodel? Baba's so damn good though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:49:18 2014 No.12714879 >>12714871 Are there any better maps to grind than 3-3 so I have something to look forward to before 5-10?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:50:12 2014 No.12714883 >>12714861 Even in world 4 you'll find others to be more useful than her. I only made my comment because you said that ranged spears are OP when it really isn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:53:37 2014 No.12714895 >>12714879 You can't really solo/double any of the siege maps due to too many cannons/air units, so 3-3 is still the best place to grind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:54:02 2014 No.12714896 >>12714879 5-5 is another grinding map but it doesn't give any gold, and you need specific castles to grind there without taking much damage. Alot more EXP though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:55:43 2014 No.12714902 >>12714895 Grinding solo? I actually just started a few days ago so I want to level at least one main team. Is it better to solo/duo the map and lose the no damage bonus than to set out all the castles?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:57:43 2014 No.12714907 >>12714902 Not him, but EXP in this game seems to be divided among castes, so soloing maps would make sense as the most efficient grinding method.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:58:27 2014 No.12714908 >>12714902 Map gives the same total exp no matter how many castles you put out, so it's more resource/fatigue efficient to put not more than 3 castles if you're grinding at 3-3.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 21:59:51 2014 No.12714912 File: 102 KB, 799x475, 435345345.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12714902 If you have a high speed/range sword (about 90/55) you can just do this, easy 840 exp for both castles without any loss.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:01:06 2014 No.12714915

I rotate 3 girls (Melee, Spear, Archer) in 1-1 solo for 283exp / pop
It's fast, the repairs takes a few minutes, I get a shit ton of drops for upping stats, the cost is usually negative (yes, I gain wood and stone and lose like 15 rice per pop or even gain 1 rice) and there is no fatigue whatsoever. I did this for 10 hours non-stop yesterday and got my spear girl from 14 to 30
It's unbelievably boring and tedious though

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:01:51 2014 No.12714917 >>12714908 Ah fatigue, good point. >>12714912 Don't have anything like that unfortunately, I largely ignored swords because their range is pitiful so I didn't bother grinding them up. Guess I got work to do. Thanks for the tip

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:03:17 2014 No.12714919 File: 160 KB, 800x150, Bunner01_ExpUPCampaign.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:05:26 2014 No.12714924 File: 1.09 MB, 2000x1128, 47147255_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12714919 EXP!!! >>12714912 Who is that in the middle? The little oni girl grown up?

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:06:41 2014 No.12714925

>>12714877
No one's forcing you to remodel them.

But seriously, what's up with all the gunner remodels? As if there weren't enough of them to begin with; I've barely started playing and I'm already getting sick of gunner drops (including my first two silvers, one of whom has a shitty range buff instead of damage skill). Aside from my starter archer + spear and the freebie archer I've only gotten one new spear and archer.

Plus I can't imagine wanting to remodel this cute Fukuyama anyway, she reminds me of Inazuma.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:08:56 2014 No.12714931 >>12714912 52 range is enough, and 95/96 speed to guarantee that you won't leak any bunnies.

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:12:38 2014 No.12714937

>>12714915
At least 1-1 is easy to multitask while running it though. So far playing through new map after new map I'm finding it hard to farm the Kancolle event at the same time; I have to spend too much time figuring out my unit placements and I forget about whatever else I was doing.

Also it sucks how much disparity there is between units in ease of 1-1 grinding. Gunners can't possibly avoid damage, mountain types have their range debuffed so they take damage even if the damage and speed are high enough (why does every main castle location have to be plains?)

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:15:37 2014 No.12714944 >>12714924 Seems to be 50% exp increase, don't know how long this last though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:16:19 2014 No.12714948 >>12714931 I don't think even a single of my girls has 95 speed

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:17:21 2014 No.12714953 >>12714944 Until the 28th

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:17:55 2014 No.12714956 >>12714931 That's why 矢留ノ城's second remodel is so good. Her default weapon gives 5 range and 5 speed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:19:43 2014 No.12714960 >>12714956 I can't even get her once, forget farming her for equipment. Where did you pick her up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:20:44 2014 No.12714968 File: 30 KB, 798x79, exps.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12714924 Yes, lvl 30 remodel. Exp up bonus is huge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:21:22 2014 No.12714969 >>12714968 It's 50% before bonus

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:21:25 2014 No.12714971 >>12714960 Twice from exploration, once from 1-1 and once from 3-3.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:24:34 2014 No.12714984 >>12714971 I've run 1-1 over 400 times in the last 3 days and don't have her. And my exploration team in plains keeps failing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:49:11 2014 No.12715033 Complain on jp bonus confirmed for shirocolle too Just got fox mask girl

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:52:49 2014 No.12715043 File: 183 KB, 801x481, super.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12715033 That speed is super, nothing can get past her. for now

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:54:53 2014 No.12715047 >>12715033 Nice, I need that speed sword she has, always get 1 or 2 leaks when soloing

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:56:00 2014 No.12715051 >>12715033 Is she a 1-1 drop?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:57:05 2014 No.12715053 >>12715051 1-1, 1-5, 3-3 all drops her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 22:59:27 2014 No.12715055 >>12715051 I got her from 1-1, yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:03:00 2014 No.12715061 File: 125 KB, 300x415, probably garbage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are your thoughts on pic related? Most of her stats are ass, but her range shows potential.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:05:29 2014 No.12715067 >>12715061 You're not wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:06:12 2014 No.12715070 File: 635 KB, 879x964, 70c42e5f501a07ce39ba880c6bd5ae63.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12715061 Just like that file name, also she looks like that shit that kept being spammed in /jp/ lately.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:06:45 2014 No.12715071 >>12715061 No remodel, and I really don't like her visuals. Pure plains type isn't that common tho so she can be useful

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:11:42 2014 No.12715084 >>12715071 Wait, there are girls with no remodel whatsoever? I just assumed the ones with none on the wiki simply didn't have any info on them yet. That's just terrible.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:14:09 2014 No.12715089 >>12715084 The majority of the girls have no known remodel. Unless their remodel level is something retarded like level 70+

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:15:09 2014 No.12715092 >>12715089 pls no..

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:16:49 2014 No.12715096

>>12715084
Well the game did just got released, so it will probably take them awhile to make all of them. Especially if they have to hire new AV and draw up new sprite art.

I think some has high level requirement too. Apparently the bunny girl with levitating dual spears has a remodel level of 50 or so?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:17:16 2014 No.12715097 >>12715092 Unless there is a remodel (even if level unknown) written on the jp wiki, I don't believe there is one

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:19:11 2014 No.12715101 >>12715096 She does? 10 more levels then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:20:30 2014 No.12715104 >>12715101 Don't quote me on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:21:08 2014 No.12715106 >>12715097 I can't navigate the JP wiki, but I only see a single spear-related remodel on the english wiki. (The archer twins remodel to a melee spear) Is that wiki incomplete or should I just not even worry about remodeling spear users?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:23:28 2014 No.12715109 >>12715106 Open http://wikiwiki.jp/shirocolle/ in chrome and translate or use google translate Or go to http://wikiwiki.jp/shirocolle/?%C9%E1%C0%C1 which lists all known remodels

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Thu Nov 20 23:31:06 2014 No.12715123 >>12715033 Allow me to rant about my lack of Kozukata despite hunting for her ever since I started playing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:33:45 2014 No.12715130 >>12715109 Wow, there really aren't that many. I guess they're trying not to do too many reskins. Thanks for the link.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:42:57 2014 No.12715147 File: 69 KB, 543x328, 2014-11-21 05-38-46.347.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love her. So much. I maxed her stats just now. 397 attack at 57 speed 65 range and 114 critical is just beastly for 98 rice

Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:45:11 2014 No.12715150

>>12715123
It's a good thing I'm not aiming for any specific girls coming into this game, otherwise it would probably be a repeat of trying to get Zuihou when I started Kancolle.

Instead I just get to bitch about my drops gameplay-wise; I still haven't gotten a spear girl aside from a million copies of Wakimoto. Thank god I went with Urasoe/Shinpu as my starters; Shinpu has been my workhorse every map.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:46:36 2014 No.12715156 >>12715150 You try starting the game for Taihou Shit is depressing with all the planning Then you get her on the 5th try. Stupid jp magic

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:47:47 2014 No.12715159 >>12715156 100 tries for Musashi and counting

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:52:22 2014 No.12715167 >>12715147 Wonder what kind of trauma she has go through from to change her from innocent to hardcore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:53:36 2014 No.12715169 >>12715167 I have a battle maniac fetish And a corruption fetish And a psychopath fetish

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:55:39 2014 No.12715180 What's a good sword castle I still don't have a holo at level 20, should I try getting one?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 20 23:58:41 2014 No.12715188 >>12715180 Just blow all your resource on crafting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 00:00:44 2014 No.12715193 >>12715180 Read the thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 00:17:33 2014 No.12715232 File: 59 KB, 300x416, wasted potential.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] She starts off as an amazing spear, and remodels into.. A pink sword with low speed and range. Fuck you, game. Fuck you.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 01:10:16 2014 No.12715338

Just reached 2-5 and damn the enemy numbers look brutal compared to the previous maps. Seems like the only reasonable strategy here is one melee at each corner of the crossroads? Looks like it's time for 1-1 grinding, I barely have melees to cover that and most are woefully low level (meanwhile I keep getting ranged swords one after the other). Tsurugu would be great here if only she weren't a mountain type.

>>12715156
LSC didn't exist when I started, so I was spamming normal carrier recipe and running 4-2 forever (and there weren't enough subs in the game to farm with them).

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 01:45:18 2014 No.12715410 >>12715338 Isn't map 2 flying enemy tutorial. Get high armor as main castle, surround her with bow/cannon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 02:47:19 2014 No.12715542 File: 1.27 MB, 810x1037, qwdqwd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OMG.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 02:50:21 2014 No.12715546 File: 1.31 MB, 810x1037, qwdqwd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OMG

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 02:50:50 2014 No.12715547 I'm down to 1 stone. Any other way to get more stones other than doing quests or giving shekels? I have way too many pinks

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 03:00:32 2014 No.12715563 Does anyone know what that purple emblem that appears on maps you've cleared several times means?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 03:04:27 2014 No.12715572 >>12715546 御城ﾌﾟﾛのアイドル！

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 03:05:52 2014 No.12715573 >>12715338 2-5 is smalltime compared to 2-6. I'm afraid of what 2-7 or the boss will be like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 03:07:13 2014 No.12715577 >>12715563 Means great victory I believe. You get it when you beat the map with minimal damage taken.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 03:08:16 2014 No.12715579 >>12715547 Building stones? Searching party give me a shit ton of stones.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 03:08:46 2014 No.12715582 >>12715573 You will laugh at it after experiencing 2-6.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 03:33:47 2014 No.12715624

>>12715410
2-5 has zero flying enemies whatsoever. The couple comments on swiki for it have nips basically saying "what the fuck, I was ready for air units and got stomped by melee."

>>12715096
>only 50
Just looked up Ipponmatsu, after remodeling to a palette swap at 30, she remodels again to a goth loli at 60. A gunner (what a surprise), but at least cheaper than the typical silver gunner with vastly better stats.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 03:39:15 2014 No.12715637 >>12715624 Still mountain-only though, which is kinda wonky.

Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Fri Nov 21 04:35:35 2014 No.12715752

>>12713794
Melee with self-heal might be intended for a more economic farming since they'll last longer without going to red or if you pump their stats via modernization, they'll act as your frontliners. Same with ranged units that get wittled down by flying enemies or ranged kabuto, they can be placed in a way that they'll be hit first rather than your damager / buffer unit beside her.

Can someone elaborate how the ability sort option 能力順 sorts the girls? I'm a bit confused on their order.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 04:54:29 2014 No.12715770 Why does it seem like all the circles are slightly to the south of where you place your castle? Is that intended? It really fucks things up if you're playing on the southern end of a map.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 05:30:05 2014 No.12715814 File: 35 KB, 300x415, 746F702E6A7067.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I she rare? I can't seem to get her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 05:31:17 2014 No.12715818 >>12715814 Is*

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 07:34:17 2014 No.12715985 File: 6 KB, 153x101, ss (2014-11-21 at 08.34.05).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 08:51:46 2014 No.12716086 What is the sword's skill proc? Just more damage?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 08:55:14 2014 No.12716094 >>12716086 Double damage, same as a critical hit .

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 09:21:31 2014 No.12716134 File: 6 KB, 217x121, ss (2014-11-21 at 10.21.10).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is pretty shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 09:28:53 2014 No.12716144 >>12715814 She shouldn't be but I can't seem to get her either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 09:29:55 2014 No.12716149 >>12716134 Which mountain lvl is it from?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 09:30:56 2014 No.12716153 >>12716149 冒険者の峠1, should be the 7th one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 09:31:59 2014 No.12716157 >>12715814 I'm pretty sure they removed her from the game altogether. 1-1 and 3-3 only drop ninjas and mikos.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 09:36:16 2014 No.12716168 >>12716157 I got her from 1-1 after my 433th run yesterday Up to 489 runs now and still only seen her once

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 09:41:06 2014 No.12716179 >>12716157 I crafted her, using 10,10,4,4 once, but never get a drop yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 09:53:27 2014 No.12716197 >>12716157 She's like a rare Isuzu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 09:59:10 2014 No.12716207 File: 31 KB, 300x408, odaki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do all the cutest castles get remodeled into old hags?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:02:24 2014 No.12716214 File: 82 KB, 300x415, 746F702E6A7067.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12716207 They ruined her

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:02:25 2014 No.12716215 File: 174 KB, 641x409, ss (2014-11-21 at 10.19.59).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Look at all these requirements.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:04:24 2014 No.12716218 >>12716214 I actually don't dislike her remodel that much, the black armor and gold beads still make for a great aesthetic. But goddamn it, Odaki is something special.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:06:23 2014 No.12716221 >>12716218 I'm fine with her remodel if it was a different castle but her first form is such a qtpie that it hurts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:08:26 2014 No.12716226 >>12716214 Does her sprite actually change when you remodel her? Or is it just the art?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:10:56 2014 No.12716231 >>12716221 Not to mention her spear actually looks pretty baddass when you can see it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:15:51 2014 No.12716241 Can Shiropro ever get to the popularity of Kancolle? I want best waifu Shikano’s Nendoroid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:18:02 2014 No.12716248 File: 501 KB, 600x893, 47189127_p2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Musashi

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:21:39 2014 No.12716253 >>12716241 Based on my first impressions I think it's doubtful, but I can't say for sure because I don't know how much of a mess Kancolle was at launch. I think the fact it's less mindless than Kancolle will work against it though.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:26:01 2014 No.12716260

>>12716253
there was a problem with the launch? I started playing just a few day so everything looks fine to me now.

I agree on the gameplay being a double edged sword though. On one hand I do like having actual game play, on the other hand sometimes I just want to mindlessly play something.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:27:26 2014 No.12716263
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>>12716241
Doubt it, kancolle came first. I think the gameplay of shiropro is better, but kancolle has more cute girls. That said, it's still early and we don't know what later castles will be like.

Shiropro has Senko-sama, though.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:29:28 2014 No.12716266

>>12716253
I think the exact opposite. The biggest complaint about anything Kancolle is how the battles and maps are pure RNG with no control whatsoever.
Kancolle moved very very slowly at the beginning. It took like 2 or 3 months to get it's first 'boom' in japan, then about 3 months later there was a second boom with the august event. Around mid-october, there was the third boom, this time for the western world, and it snowballed like hell from there.

Basically, if the game is still unknown in 6 months, it's a failure and won't go anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:31:38 2014 No.12716273 >>12716266 >Around mid-october Funny, that's when I started playing.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:35:40 2014 No.12716279

>>12716260
The main problem is that it doesn't seem like there are as many cute girls, and in a lot of cases remodeling changes way too much. It both makes more work for the developers and may make a castle that the player is attached to become ugly or unusable, whereas in Kancolle you're almost guaranteed to just get a straight upgrade out of the deal.

However the most heinous issue of all is that voice acting plays a much, much smaller role in this than Kancolle. People will not get as attached to their characters when they don't have iconic lines that they hear very frequently.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:45:59 2014 No.12716293

>>12716279
Voices can always be added later. Kancolle adds new voices to old ships occasionally.

And the remodels are as double edged as the gameplay. For instance, I would never have given a shit about Odaki >>12716207 if she didn't remodel into >>12716214 who I am literally drooling after. Neither of us have the statistical facts to assume whether the majority likes or dislikes the drastic remodels (in some case).

Really, I give this game a good shot because it is the second big kancolle-esque game with voiced girls, excellent art and this time even solid gameplay. I am just glad I picked this up now and not 9 months after it released.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:49:57 2014 No.12716297

>>12716241
Give it about 4 months report back then. Remember that Kancolle started off with only avrage results for about that long (and was expected to die in a year) but due to a popularity boom that came from a from a series of tweets from Kohta Hirano (over the sinking of his Kaga + bad modernaization management.) It is what has been thought to be what trigger the gigantic boom in Kantai Collection as it gain fame as a rapid pace following those tweets. And by August, the dev had to change everything in order to handle the large surge of people that poured in to want to play (I.E Lottery System)

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 10:57:33 2014 No.12716307

>>12716293
The thing is it's not about who likes the drastic remodel more, it's that you're splitting the base in the first place. Overriding one model with another guarantees that somebody is going to be alienated, as opposed to using the two models for two different characters, thus giving everyone what they want.

Which brings us to the other issue: Castles are potentially even more limiting than WW2 Warships ever were.

Also, I think the title of second big kancolle-esque game goes to OLET, which I still think is basically Kancolle that is improved in almost every way, but done in by the simple fact that the theme they went with is completely terrible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:01:03 2014 No.12716309 >>12716307 Castles aren't rare in Japan at all

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:03:43 2014 No.12716310

>>12716307
Really? I would say that cities and castles is a much better concept than WWII ships. The fact they grew into cities with people who still live in them today combined with hundreds of years of history makes them a much more broad subject to explore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:04:58 2014 No.12716314 >>12716307 There's still another type of remodel that improves the castle's stats but doesn't change its looks, yet to be implemented though.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:05:30 2014 No.12716315

>>12716307
They're not splitting the base. You're assuming a scenario where a given character would be used for X instead of not having been made in the first place which would be the case here.

If Odaki didn't upgrade into an adult form, I would've never used her and her adult form would not exist, thus not giving me what I want. if someone loves Odaki so much they can just not upgrade her. You're falling prey to the pitfall that is taking away choice to find a common ground when choice itself is the common ground that is needed already.

And lastly, do you know how many castles there are in the world? Kancolle is slowly adding foreign ships. What stops Shirocolle from adding foreign castles eventually? Just think about it. An event world, excursions to Great Britain where you fight against Brit kabutos and at the very end get CAMELOT as reward. Or the german Neuschwanstein Castle. And so forth. And they don't even have to stick to castles that still exist but can also use castles that once existed in the past.

I've seen the acronym OLET but never actually heard of the game title before I looked it up just now.

Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Fri Nov 21 11:09:05 2014 No.12716317
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>>12716293
My gripe with remodeling and art in general points towards how everything are all over the place. A lot of them have a lazy reskin/recolor at remodel too. This makes me wish they just kept them as it is and have a better design for final remodel for more impact.
Mechanic-wise, too many drastic class changes make them not worth getting.

Pic related's style also stands out in a bad way for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:09:48 2014 No.12716318 Has anyone gotten Sentai through any maps yet?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:10:00 2014 No.12716319 If they add every castle that even has some kind of history into the game, we would have so many girls that getting a duplicate of anything would be absurdly hard

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:11:51 2014 No.12716322

>>12716310
To add on to this, I would say using cities and castle as the subject of the game is easily one of the best decision they have made. I actually cannot think of anything better off the top of my head right now. What other subject can you think of that is easily relatable and personable with potentially thousands of years of history, legend and myths to explore?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:13:06 2014 No.12716325 >>12716318 Nope, some of these pinks are rarer than silvers.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:14:43 2014 No.12716327

>>12716319
If they want to, they can make the game even more RPG like and give each girl skill trees and specializations to upgrade. Kancolle does not have this luxury as their style has long since being sealed. Shiropro is designed with actual gameplay in mind so such changes might actually be added.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:15:09 2014 No.12716329

>>12716317
I can bring that same argument for Kancolle. Kai's have no difference whatsoever, which is even worse than a recolor. Then there /are/ lazy recolors, too, and of course there are also complete art changes like the Kongou Kai 2 class, which many people feel was ruined and others like them.

As far as 'art is all over the place' this too applies to Kancolle. Against the colorful and playful Submarines or some of the other vibrant ships, Shibafu is dull, sameface and generally considered possibly the weakest artist in all of Kancolle. The art is not as unified as people are led to believe.

In Kancolle, half of all the ships are destroyers and less than 20% of them are actually useful. Tons of them are interchangable with no effect whatsoever, which makes them moot to get unless you like their art and voices. The exact same applies in Shirocolle.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:17:07 2014 No.12716336 File: 130 KB, 639x338, help.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] uh... help, or do I need higher level archer/gunner type as flag? since putting the lvl33 spear doesn't change what senko is saying as well..

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:19:01 2014 No.12716343 >>12716336 If it does not mention main castle then the requirements applies to all castles. Levels do matter too even when they don't mention it.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:19:20 2014 No.12716344

>>12716327
I wouldn't write kancolle off in terms of mechanics just yet but anything like ship-unique skills would be a gigantic major update that we'd see coming a year away. They constantly add new combat mechanics based on equip to give more depth to the combat.
Of course they can't take away the randomness of the battles entirely for that is the core gameplay, but they could add things like ship skills (triggered by pre-determined conditions)

Shirocolle is very young. Kancolle had extremely simple gameplay, compared to today, when it first started. It's going to turn two years old in a few months and god knows where Shirocolle will be gameplay wise if it gets to be that old

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:22:48 2014 No.12716349

>>12716315
>If Odaki didn't upgrade into an adult form, I would've never used her and her adult form would not exist
If Odaki didn't upgrade into adult form, the adult form's design could be used for another castle entirely that you would use, while someone who likes Odaki would use Odaki.

This isn't rocket science. Kancolle practically already does it with sister ships.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:24:43 2014 No.12716354

>>12716349
You see, the adult form design was made because there was the need for it, i.e. someone decided Odaki turns into an adult. If she didn't, there would be no need for the design and thus it would not exist.
Logic 101.
And nothing stops someone that likes Odaki from using Odaki. The remodels are manual. They don't happen automatically.
As you said, this isn't rocket science. I don't see what's so hard to comprehend here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:25:15 2014 No.12716356 >>12716329 >Kai's have no difference whatsoever, which is even worse than a recolor. Tell that to people who wanted the Yamashiro K2 to not be a hideous piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:27:48 2014 No.12716359 >>12716356 I said Kai. Not Kai 2. Semantics are important. And I too think Yamashiro K2 is YamaSHIT

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:30:55 2014 No.12716362 File: 30 KB, 472x472, harunya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haruna like this game too!

Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Fri Nov 21 11:31:25 2014 No.12716363

>>12716329
I agree on the Kongou Kai 2 thing, the famous girl had the bars set high. But then again, you really can't please everybody. Kongou's kai 2 didn't impress me either.

>The art is not as unified as people are led to believe.
Because they could recognize a character easier since either she belongs in a specific design of their class and series like the Destroyer-class Akatsuki uniform.

I tried avoiding to compare this to kancolle, but I guess it can't be helped. We could compare this to Aigis since they're both character-based tower defense games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:32:13 2014 No.12716366 >>12716315 >adult form I don't think she looks that much older tbh. Besides, is it just me or she looks like she's drawn by two different artists? feels kind of strange after kancolle.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:35:27 2014 No.12716375

>>12716359
You're saying no difference at all is worse than a recolor, I'm saying that is factually wrong because things can always change for the worse, with Yamashiro K2 as an example.

Change for the sake of change is a bad design philosophy, plain and simple.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:39:17 2014 No.12716385

>>12716366
Teenage form then, if you please.
And no, I am 99% sure the artist is the same.

>>12716363
Even within the same class there are oddities. Mutsuki and Kisaragi look vastly different from the rest of the class. Murakumo sticks out like a sore thumb in her class. Ayanami class has similar issues. Kagerou-class is a clusterfuck. This list goes on for a bit.
I believe it is actually easier to just be able to tell the artist "do whatever" instead of having to force something into a template.
Yes, the template gives unification and lets similar art draw from similar popularity but truly diverse characters have higher odds to have something for everyone.

>>12716375
You can't say it's factually wrong because there is no unified opinion on the base state and there can never be one. No change for the sake of avoiding "change for the sake of change" is no better a design philosophy.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:40:48 2014 No.12716387

>>12716354
>You see, the adult form design was made because there was the need for it, i.e. someone decided Odaki turns into an adult. If she didn't, there would be no need for the design and thus it would not exist.
The "adult form" is just a role assigned to Otaki. She could just as easily have been her own character. You are not the artist and therefore you do not know what processes went into her inception. You are literally just assuming she was created because they needed "adult form Odaki" because it suits your argument. An argument, might I add, amounts to nothing more than "I believe that a system that punishes a player for developing an attachment to their castle girls is good because I like the design of one of the girls in it."

And I'm not even talking about just design changes to begin with. Plenty of people in this thread have already mentioned what a great big "fuck you" it is for their prized sword/spear to turn into some shitty musket.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:46:41 2014 No.12716393

>>12716387
Not the guy you are responding too. While I do feel disappointed that so many things change into musket when they remodel, I can accept if it is how history works. If a town started known for its archery but later becomes a center for musket production then sure, I am ok with the remodel. After all if you ignore its history, then you are denying the subject of the game which is anthropomorphic castles. I just hope they also keep gameplay in mind as well and slightly bend history when they can.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:50:45 2014 No.12716399

>>12716385
>You can't say it's factually wrong because there is no unified opinion on the base state and there can never be one. No change for the sake of avoiding "change for the sake of change" is no better a design philosophy.
You're backpedaling. You previously stated "Kai's have no difference whatsoever, which is even worse than a recolor." Feel free to explain how you are not in that quote both admitting the existence of a base state, and stating in a general sense that any change whatsoever is better than no change at all.

This isn't about not changing at all, what you're arguing for is indiscriminate change.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:53:15 2014 No.12716405

>>12716387
We are not going to entertain a million "would be" scenarios. Someone decided she remodels and thus the artist was tasked with creating the remodel art. It did not happen the other way around. This is basic business sense.
I don't need to be the artist to know that this followed the same procedure as just about any other damn business inquiry.
And you're grasping at straws here with your whole "lets find holes in your argument instead of finding proof for my own" agenda.

And.
I count 6 remodels that go from something other than gun into a gun. Six. Out of 30 remodels that are currently known.
There are 4 classes. 20% changes to gun. Of those 5 remodels, we have 3 Bow, 2 Sword, 1 Spear user that turn into gunners.

There are: 42 sword user - 21 spear user - 13 archer - 27 gunner
If anything, they need to add more archers, not revoke 3 archers remodeling into gunners
And enough with the swordies already. It's approaching Kancolle Destroyer levels of silly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 11:54:45 2014 No.12716407 >>12716399 Do you know what "unified opinion on the base state" means? It doesn't mean I am denying a base state exists. And I argue for what I believe is right, just as you are. Doesn't mean either of us gets to use 'factually' in this argument.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 12:16:52 2014 No.12716451

>>12716405
>We are not going to entertain a million "would be" scenarios. Someone decided she remodels and thus the artist was tasked with creating the remodel art. It did not happen the other way around. This is basic business sense. I don't need to be the artist to know that this followed the same procedure as just about any other damn business inquiry.
We are not going to entertain a million "would be" scenarios, but we will default to the one you pulled quite literally out of your ass because your "sense", which was pulled from the exact same place, also says as much.

>And you're grasping at straws here with your whole "lets find holes in your argument instead of finding proof for my own" agenda.
And now you're seriously saying that refuting the opponent's points is not a valid form of argumentation? Frankly, you're not even worth taking seriously at this point.

But okay, I'll also argue fantasy with you: If Otaki were not designed, that artist's time would have been spent to create a character so miraculously perfect, so wondrously fitting to your personal tastes, that upon laying eyes upon her you would have wept into your own neckbeard before screaming out "MY LIFE FINALLY HAS MEANING", and going into cardiac arrest.

My advanced business sense, which is superior to your basic business sense, says that this most certainly would be the case, therefore it's not even worth our time to even entertain the possibility something else may have happened.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 12:53:00 2014 No.12716539

At what point does 3-3 become better than 1-1 for grinding?

3-3 seems to give around 4 times as much EXP, but it also takes longer to clear and is harder to do without taking damage. (At least, for spears which can usually clear 1-1 while taking little to no damage in the process.)

It seems more swords-friendly, but I'm not entirely sure I have the equipment to do it without my spears to clear crowds.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 12:58:17 2014 No.12716553
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>>12716539
This map is great for leveling anything with range on 3-3, spears, bows and muskets, if you have it. You can hit the road from the mountains and have none of your castles take any damage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 13:04:48 2014 No.12716571 File: 221 KB, 824x486, ss (2014-11-22 at 02.03.30).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12716539

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 13:18:03 2014 No.12716595

>>12716451
Go and ask some artists that work with companies on how they produce art.
The answer will always be "on demand" and not "I present them and they decide if they need it"

And here it comes. "You're not worth taking seriously." Or, abreviated: QQ

And now you're descending into personal insults and logical fallacy. Who was it that was supposed to be not taken seriously again?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 13:26:48 2014 No.12716613 >>12716595 >Who was it that was supposed to be not taken seriously again? Go ask some artists.

Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Fri Nov 21 13:26:53 2014 No.12716614

>>12716336
SS it, crop it out and upload here, set it to recognize Japanese since it's default to English.

http://www.newocr.com/

You get this:

弓属性が有効なの
今なら成功しやずぃみたいなの!

Then translate
https://translate.google.com/#ja/en/

It's tedious but at least you won't need to ask everytime.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 13:43:13 2014 No.12716661 >>12716614 >Bow attribute is valid >The success if now Shiyazu~i like such on here Thanks google-sama

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 14:20:47 2014 No.12716711

How do people deal with grinding castles that can't solo 1-1 without taking damage? Right now I don't have a single one that can. Some I can grind with light damage (like Tsurugu who just lacks range), but most of mine have inadequate damage (while the spears are too slow). I spent most of my keystones last night trying to craft equipment but the best sword I got was +7 atk +3 humanoid attribute. About the best I can do is equip +25 defense and +25 crit and try to minimize damage, but then it's a hassle to rotate them, repairing every run and swapping equipment.

And then there's the archers (and heaven forbid, gunners); I'm duoing the archer twins and Ipponmatsu and even then have to repair ever other run (or every run if I get distracted and don't activate their buff on the 3rd wave).

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 14:31:19 2014 No.12716726 >>12716711 Only sword castles can grind 1-1 while taking minimal damage, for ranged castles you might as well go 1-5 and sortie 5 castles. If you're coming from KanColle and you're trying to craft equipment at a low level you kinda deserve it.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 14:35:29 2014 No.12716734

>>12716726
Spear Castles can usually solo 1-1 pretty well thanks to their AoE proc and high defense.

If anything they usually do better unless you have a really ridiculous sword who can mow down waves before they get into range, but if you had that you wouldn't be grinding 1-1 to begin with.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 14:48:36 2014 No.12716761

>>12716726
My third equipment crafting attempt I got a +20 atk bow, so I figured level didn't matter here. In Kancolle I don't think I even bothered trying to craft equipment outside of dailies at low levels just because it was so much more expensive resource-wise and I was trying to get my shipfu instead.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 15:01:45 2014 No.12716776

>>12716734
>but if you had that you wouldn't be grinding 1-1 to begin with.
Stats fodder. 1-1 is just all about rotating repairs anyway, it's up to you to decide whether you want to spend more on sortieing or repairing.

>>12716761
Crafting for equipments is not that useful before you get your basic compositions all set up, and even then all you need are some really specific equipments that gives you range or speed. You don't really look for extra damage from equipments.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 15:25:33 2014 No.12716804

>>12716776
>1-1 is just all about rotating repairs anyway
Thanks for that statement, I thought I was doing something wrong with how people were always talking about zero-damage 1-1 runs as if that was the goal to aim for. The annoying thing though is having to keep my eye on the game for the 3rd wave to use a damage skill in time, that can be the difference between repairing every run or every 2 or 3 runs.

And I realize range and speed are more important in the long run, but I figured a high damage weapon would make it a lot easier to get some low level castles started grinding (by reaching the OHKO point earlier without having to feed them a ton).

>>12716726
>grinding 1-5
I guess you have to have some pretty decent ranged castles to do this efficiently? When I cleared it I used ranged castles along the road but had to withdraw at least 1 and replace with a melee.

And I swear the game puts the dots in the worst possible spacing for your ranged units to hit the road while staying out of harm's way. When I cleared it I had two gunners get beat up bad because they were the tiniest bit too close, but if I had moved them back they would barely have been able to hit anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 15:47:52 2014 No.12716841 Daily crafts have been amazing as usual I'll get a holo one day, I swear

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 15:59:51 2014 No.12716872 >>12716841 No good crafts here but I just had cowboy hat girl drop from 1-1, now I have my 3rd unit. At least that was only around acquiring-Sendai-tier rather than the month or two it took me to get Hiei.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 16:00:40 2014 No.12716876 File: 194 KB, 797x477, Ikazuchi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looks like I got Ikazuchi, same VA and everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 16:26:38 2014 No.12716949 >>12716876 >remodels into gunner Houshou at 20 >that gunner then has two palette swap remodels at 40 and 60 Why is this allowed?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 16:36:58 2014 No.12716977 >>12716876 Where did she drop? Still missing her after 550 1-1 runs

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 16:41:23 2014 No.12716982 >>12716977 I crafted her, used 4/6/6/3 I think.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 17:08:37 2014 No.12717050

I'm looking into getting a unit that can solo 1-1 pretty much damage free so I can run it practically endlessly
I have two +8 range swords and a horse with +3 range and +3 speed, will soon have a +5 speed + 5 range sword. so I could combined that for +16 range OR +11 range +3 speed OR +10 range +10 speed

I would prefer to use a plains only castle for the range buff but I don't think I actually have a melee that's capable of oneshotting the enemies and only plains type.

Any suggestions?
This is very much to farm drops, not exp

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 18:22:09 2014 No.12717311 Fatigue still sets in when solo-ing 1-1 too fast so I guess I will use the girl described in >>12717050 (I found one that mostly fits the bill and is cheap too deploy) to fight in-between others being repaired

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 18:54:05 2014 No.12717426 I really need to make sure to look at the terrain type of my new girls before getting too excited about them. Just got Nanao, stats blow away my pink spears, not even that expensive. So obviously that means she's pure mountain. FUCK.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 18:59:28 2014 No.12717439

>>12717426
She is still good regardless, just more situational.

Although does anybody know what the twitter message is saying? That for today only we can find her with search parties?

コン！今日は「探索」限定の城娘をご紹介！前髪ぱっつん系お嬢様の「一乗谷城」ちゃんなの〜！きゃわわ〜華やぐの！今のところは「探索」のみでしかお迎えできないの！みんなで探すの！

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 19:16:55 2014 No.12717465

3 girls with potential and all have issues
1) Tiny loli with knife, melee. Can solo but unless it rains the skill won't charge fully, leaving you pretty damaged at the end. If there was a way to speedup skill charging, this could work
2) Cowgirl has a self-heal skill but it's mediocre. Charges faster than knife lolis skill but you kinda have to time it at the very end to minimize damage. Also, no remodel.
3) Likely the best choice, the nurse archer. With a +20 and +10 bow, she can oneshot wave 1 and 2 enemies (I haven't tested what her max attack is, yet) and her heal skill is like cowgirls so it will charge fully before end of wave 3. Her attackspeed is very low at 59 (range is 84)

The best bet for repeated no-damage runs would be to combine two of the above. The archer and cowgirl would likely work well together. Neither has the attack speed to solo and keep up with healing but they aren't very expensive, even together (98 rice. You get 35 back from beating the map plus estates you can sell for 50-100 rice)

And then I realized that if you field more than 1 girl, you might as well field someone very cheap that can hold the west lane by themselves and let the bottom lane go to the home castle which would be another melee that holds off a lane by herself.

The cheapest combination that reliably does this is Sakada (34 rice) for west lane, on the mountains with some range-up equip so she can snipe from one field away.
As home anything with enough range, speed and attack works. Since Sakada never gets hurt and this is designed to be run in-between other castles getting repaired, fatigue should not a big issue

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 19:36:31 2014 No.12717525

>>12717439
I'm pretty sure it's not only for the duration of today, they just say that today they're introducing a search-party-only shiromusu (then they go on to say, "for now" that's the only way to get her).

And yeah, Nanao still will be useful enough. With my lack of decent spears other than Shinpu, I've been forced to use Wakimoto in suboptimal locations anyway and Nanao is way better than her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 19:44:30 2014 No.12717544 Drop farming is so tedious and even more necessary than tedious

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 20:16:54 2014 No.12717611 >>12716614 Thanks, that ocr site wilI be useful. figured it out last night where I need to form a team mostly of bows and guns only to get that exploration done. getting all my plains to lvl20 didn't help at all when there's a mix of other melee.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 20:23:33 2014 No.12717628 >>12717611 I think you only need your lead girl to have the level. All the other ones just needs to fit the type specified.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 20:29:57 2014 No.12717638 >>12717628 That's what I had in mind, but this anon >>12716343 is being vague so I just tried what I can.. well at least now I have plenty of level20 to cycle around.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 20:30:30 2014 No.12717640

>>12717628
I get the heavy impression the field type is counted differently depending on whethers its multi-type or pure type
10x Pure mountain type will give better results than 9x mountain type and 1x hill type
Combat type looks like it's a bonus that counts for almost as much as terrain type
So for mountains 5 pure mountain sword types and 5 pure mountain spear types would be best

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 20:32:20 2014 No.12717645 >>12717640 Here's a pure plain type composition.>>12716336

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 20:35:27 2014 No.12717658 >>12717645 I'm on the same exploration and I get the best rating. I have the lvl 35 gunner that is the Kai form of the tono-chan archer lead the search and without her it's complete crap

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 20:57:18 2014 No.12717731

Do the girl's skill stat ever increase? My Shikano has a base of 26 according to the wiki but for some reason she now has 30 for her skill stat. I took off all equipment too to make sure is not some gear stat boost. She is level 34 is that matters, anybody have her with a different level want to check?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 21:02:10 2014 No.12717746 >>12717731 level 40, 31 skill

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 21:04:53 2014 No.12717749

>>12717746
Thanks, so it does increase. I did not realize that, I was just thinking of how level seems to be not as important because I thought hp and remodel is the only thing level increases, att/def/aa/crit can all be modernized, this does make a bit of a difference.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 21:24:00 2014 No.12717819 Has anyone attempted spamming low-cost recipes in the hopes of getting Sentai/Kozukata/Yadomeno/Daihouji/etc? Though I suppose they'd be the equivalent to Elite DDs so that may not work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:13:10 2014 No.12717935 >>12715061 That cunt makes up over half of my drops/crafts and she doesn't even make good modernization fodder.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:33:09 2014 No.12717979 Why do I fail expeditions like 1/10 of the time? Is this an intended feature?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:35:59 2014 No.12717986 >>12717979 Assuming you have the requirements, I don't see why you would fail. I have failed twice in all my expeditions and all of them are because I misread the requirements.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:36:45 2014 No.12717987

>>12717979
It seems to be chance based, rather than requirement-based like in Kancolle. Probably makes it a bit harder for people to spoil themselves on optimal builds.

They can kinda get away with it because you still get something even if it fails, but failing a 3 or 6 hour ex by chance would suck.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:37:25 2014 No.12717989
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>>12717638
I'm not being vague. If Senko mentions 本城 then the requirements apply to the main castle only, if it does not then the requirements apply to all castles. Regarding the level, I've been getting more success (and huge success) from explorations by sending more higher level castles rather than only one high level as the main castle. Goes from 50/50 with 0 huge success to around 70/30 with some huge success.

>>12717439
You can get pic related from exploration.

>>12717979
Shorter expeditions have a chance to fail.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:38:43 2014 No.12717994 >>12717979 Seems like a 50/50 chance to fail to me for the 20 minute one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:38:58 2014 No.12717995 >>12717987 >>12717989 6hour hasn't failed me yet, but 20 minute ones fail every once in a while and it gets irritating

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:40:14 2014 No.12718000 >>12717994 50/50? What? You are definitely doing something wrong. Are you sure you are not bringing the wrong types?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:41:30 2014 No.12718005 What about 3hours?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:45:33 2014 No.12718016 >>12717989 Very nice, mountain-only is a damn shame though. Filling the bar only gives you equipment, never girls right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:46:59 2014 No.12718019 >>12718016 Probably never girls, for now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:49:06 2014 No.12718021 >>12717995 Twitter did mention that longer exploration has higher chance of success. >>12718016 Yes. >>12718000 You'll get it once you reach the 5th or 6th tier explorations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:49:12 2014 No.12718022 >>12718005 3 hours has failed for me before, it's devastating. It gives less than a single 20 minute great success.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:51:10 2014 No.12718028 >>12718022 Ok, since the 20min exploration can get annoying when they keep failing and big success at random.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:52:33 2014 No.12718030 >>12718022 I think longer explorations trade profit for reliability. I have no idea which is better at bar percentage and exploration girls though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:57:13 2014 No.12718041 >>12715814 Nice, I just got her from mountain exploration.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 22:59:07 2014 No.12718043 Maybe it just seems like it because I can literally just AFK maps for EXP, but fatigue is a lot worse in this game isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:03:10 2014 No.12718053 >>12718043 For grinding? Not really since you can always swap out. Since each map takes quite a while, by the time your first set of castles reach fatigue, the second set is ready to go again.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:08:55 2014 No.12718067

>>12718053
That makes sense, I guess my main issue is that I'm currently using all of my main castles in a single team, trying to get them to remodel. The rest are non-remodel junk that I don't want to waste the resources on.

Once they're remodeled I can probably split them up and start rotating teams of 2-3 with potential fillers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:13:33 2014 No.12718078 >>12718053 Tell that to my 4 fatigued castles from 1-1 runs

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:16:24 2014 No.12718091

>>12718067
I personally duo grind 3-3. Whichever one I want to grind in the main seat and a sword castle with 94-96 speed, 53-56 attack range. Your sword castle take maybe 100 damage in total and nothing reaches the castle.

If you scroll up a bit, I am sure you can see 2-3 people are doing the same thing I am.

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:19:17 2014 No.12718098

安らぎの渓谷1

Went with the requirements, brought mountain castles have the requirements for 15+ leader and total castle levels are 97 and I still fail often even at すばらしい部隊なのっ！

毒蛇の草原2

I just toss in random ass bow/gun castles with a total of 84 levels and I've not failed a single damn time there

What in the hell, there's gotta be a secret level requirement for the first mountain expedition

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:21:52 2014 No.12718102 File: 14 KB, 197x283, femalenaruto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Senko A Best!

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:23:14 2014 No.12718104 >>12718067 The "no remodel junk" can be exceptionally useful. Sakada for example has amazing attack speed and can reach really high attack for just 34 rice cost

Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:27:46 2014 No.12718112

>>12718091
How much attack power do you need to OHKO everything? I only have one +5 speed sword, so most of my girls can't reach 96 speed or 300+ attackpower. I can go +8 range sword and the +5 range / speed sword for +13 range and +5 speed but I feel like that will let some damn rabbits slip through

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:33:17 2014 No.12718124 >>12718112 I have 92 speed/264 attack/61 range on Iga and it's enough for 3-3, nothing gets past her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:41:34 2014 No.12718133 >>12718124 How do you get so much range on Iga? Iga being the Ninja Kai, yes? Basic Iga has 210 attack, 87 speed, 40 range Where do you get +21 range while at the same time +5 speed? Is there some kind of +16 range sword?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:54:40 2014 No.12718170 File: 935 KB, 798x479, 1416625540666.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12718091 You can also just it with this girl. Pair her up with another sword and they can perfect 4-7 in the same way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 21 23:58:25 2014 No.12718182 File: 45 KB, 406x335, 3232.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12718133 It's actually 89 speed with a +15 range and +2 speed +6 range horses. Still more than enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:02:01 2014 No.12718190 how do i obtain new girls?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:02:50 2014 No.12718192 >>12718182 I can't get range like that. You think I can get away with less range? I don't mind repairing for 10-15 minutes, I can just rotate 1-1 during that

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:06:09 2014 No.12718199 >>12718192 Depends if the main castle has any range, a bow/spear/gunner should be fine, they can deal with the eventual rabbit leaking without being hit. Swords would have more trouble with it though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:10:05 2014 No.12718207 >>12718190 please respond ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:11:54 2014 No.12718214 >>12718190 Craft or search

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:17:22 2014 No.12718233 >>12718170 Oh I have been looking for her for awhile now due to her being plain and spear type, plus she get a giant golem. How did you get her?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:18:19 2014 No.12718235 >>12718192 52 range, 210 attack, 95 speed and you can finish 3-3 while taking minimal chip damage. If you sortie an extra ranged castle you can avoid taking any damage at all.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Sat Nov 22 00:18:45 2014 No.12718237 >>12718233 Not him but see >>12713176

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:19:51 2014 No.12718241 >>12718237 Thanks, standard recipe it seems then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:32:23 2014 No.12718274 >>12718214 how do you search for girls? and i accidentally destroyed a few horses symbol item? How fucked am i? and what is it for?

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:36:10 2014 No.12718286

>>12718274
If you play Kancolle, it is basically expeditions. You form a team and sent them out to either the mountain, plain or river to gather resources and loot.

Losing problems is probably not a big deal because the chances are they are pretty worthless anyway. You will be swimming in horses once you start to craft items.

For now just craft them. Get a few silvers and progress to 3-3 as soon as you can for grinding purposes. After that just advance whenever you feel confident. 5-10 is the goal after I believe since it unlocks the third territory.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:41:46 2014 No.12718299
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>>12718091
Aside from fox girl, this one also fulfills the requirements for a duo 3-3 grind. I just switch them when one of them goes into fatigue and switch out fox girl's range+speed sword. Just keep in mind that if anyone does this, her remodel eats around 200 food per run so it might not be cost efficient if you're low on food. You could probably offset that from exploration and selling estates you might get from runs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 00:42:33 2014 No.12718300 >>12718286 thx, anon-kun. You're the best

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 01:21:59 2014 No.12718381 File: 849 KB, 800x479, correct oni.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well that wasn't nearly as bad as trying to collect all 3 yasen sisters, at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 01:34:43 2014 No.12718397 How do I stop overusing spears? They just all look so much better than most of the other classes, it's hard to use anything else.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Sat Nov 22 01:39:19 2014 No.12718408 >>12718397 What areas have you unlocked now? I've barely cleared 4-4 earlier since I've neglected grinding levels especially for the anti-air castles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 01:41:14 2014 No.12718413 >>12718170 Can you perfect 4-7 without her but use 3 instead of 2 castles?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 01:48:47 2014 No.12718441 >>12718408 I just got to 3-3 yesterday and have been grinding there since.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 02:14:31 2014 No.12718499 My girls just got captures. What does it mean?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 02:21:38 2014 No.12718516 >>12718499 If you don't save them in 24 hours then you get ntr'd and lose them to the enemy forever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 02:21:56 2014 No.12718518 >>12718499 They got sent to the rape dungeon.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Sat Nov 22 02:23:04 2014 No.12718520 >>12718499 You'll meet them again as enemy bosses if you don't do something within 24 hours..

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 02:41:24 2014 No.12718557 Are there any modifiers to fatigue per character? When grinding my 5-man team, it's always my Muranaka who becomes fatigued first, and she's also usually the last to recover.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 02:56:39 2014 No.12718592

>>12718557
Test made by a chink and his conclusions.

>Fatigue range : 0~100
>Low Fatigue : <20
>Fatigue Recovery Speed : 6 every 5 mins
>Fatigue timer is independent to every castle (unlike in KanColle where it's server tick based) and resets whenever you end a sortie (EXP screen). Only castles that are placed into battle are affected (Castles that are in the same squad but not placed are not affected).
>If your sortie ends before your fatigue recovery timer hits 0:00, the timer will be reset to 5:00 and no fatigue will be recovered (meaning if you do short sorties that lasts shorter than 5 minute in quick succession with the same castles you will not recover any fatigue in between them)

>Fatigue consumption per sortie
>Sea : 12
>Mountain/Water : 16
>Mountain : 20
>Plain Mountain/Water : 20
>Plain Mountain : 24
>Plains : 27~28

>Main Castle Fatigue Consumption Modifier : -4
>MVP Modifier : None
>Damage Modifier : None
>Total Destruction Modifier : Not tested

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:07:40 2014 No.12718636 >>12718592 That explains it then, Muranaka is the only plains-only type in my team.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:09:32 2014 No.12718644 >>12718636 Still doesn't explain why you're grinding 5 castles at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:14:34 2014 No.12718656 >>12718644 They're not very strong, as you may have been tipped in by me using Muranaka as opposed to Saga.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:29:44 2014 No.12718700 >>12718592 So wait, you can end up at low fatigue after only 3 sorties and it'll take nearly an hour to recover? That's just ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:30:50 2014 No.12718701 >>12718656 Which map are you farming on anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:34:09 2014 No.12718708 File: 206 KB, 809x493, ss (2014-11-22 at 04.33.38).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] lel

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:36:52 2014 No.12718716

>>12718701
3-3.

With 5 units it gives about the same amount of exp as soling 1-1 to each unit, but comes with the benefit of me not needing to do any repairs whatsoever.

Once they hit 30/35 I'll be able to remodel them all and then split them into two separate parties.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:36:58 2014 No.12718717 >>12718708 So that girl is pretty good?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:40:12 2014 No.12718723 >>12718716 Even without remodeling you should be able to clear them out with only 3 castles excluding the main castle, unless you're sortieing really weak castles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:40:49 2014 No.12718725 >>12718717 She's the most OP sword.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:41:11 2014 No.12718728 >>12718708 That mountain/water though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:41:43 2014 No.12718729 >>12718725 >>12718717 Not really. She's only good at this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:43:46 2014 No.12718733 File: 76 KB, 681x261, 1416549111186.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12718717 Highest DPS, but she lacks range.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:45:18 2014 No.12718738

>>12718723
I actually could pull out one and run 4 while still taking no damage, but I didn't really want to leave one behind in EXP since they're all close to remodel.

But I just realized I can just run Baba in 1-1 while the others are recovering fatigue since she can solo forever without repairs thanks to healing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:46:25 2014 No.12718740 >>12718733 Her base speed is 94, not 103. Taking base attack instead of max attack to compare DPS is really stupid anyway.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:50:22 2014 No.12718748

>>12718733
Her stats in general are pretty absurd. (85 armor as a level 1 pink sword, what the fuck?)

The range can probably be compensated for via items and she'll probably still come out on top compared to others. Her problem is that she can't use Plains.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 03:52:28 2014 No.12718754 Reminder that DPS don't mean shit when you can't survive more than 2 waves

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 04:28:06 2014 No.12718807 File: 867 KB, 800x479, not tokitsukaze.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now if only I could get the real thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 04:36:13 2014 No.12718819 >>12718807 What? that's loli Hiei.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 04:39:14 2014 No.12718825 >>12718819 What? That looks much more like Tokitsukaze. She even has the same hat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 04:42:26 2014 No.12718830 >Fukuyama doesn't call me Tono-chan any more after remodel Why.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 04:42:46 2014 No.12718833 >>12718825 Not really. She even has a similar pose. Tokitsukaze is shit anyway

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 04:51:18 2014 No.12718847

>>12718833
The pose is completely different, Hiei has an aggressive pose to show her fighting spirit. Not-Tokitsukaze has some kind of girly "I'm casting a spell to turn you into a lolicon" pose. One slightly raised fist does not a same pose make, and the latter is obviously some kind of gigantic slut.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 05:23:42 2014 No.12718885
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>>12718847
Please don't compare my lolifu to your gigantic dogslut.
Every fucking time Tokitsukaze returns from an expedition she just sits there and gives me that fucking stupid look on her face.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 08:57:10 2014 No.12719149 So do you think this is one of those games where too much resources in the recipes can fuck your chance at a good ship? Because I have more resources than I know what to do with, and only a handful of keystones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 09:15:34 2014 No.12719179 >running out of rice is there any way to farm this shit? How do you guys get to 3-3 fast?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 09:25:49 2014 No.12719197 >>12719149 10/10/10/10 is a scam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 09:33:15 2014 No.12719208 File: 184 KB, 797x478, stronk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is pretty nice, my first castle that can solo shit fast enough. Meanwhile, mask loli nowhere to be found.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 10:20:17 2014 No.12719307 >>12719208 I think I've gotten every possible girl from 1-1 except that oni girl needed for the third group. Did you get her as a drop or craft?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 10:27:14 2014 No.12719327 >>12719307 I got her a couple of times from 1-1 and 3-3, 4/6/6/3 with the basic craft stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 10:43:21 2014 No.12719380 >>12718738 How? My Baba never gets her skill charges before she cuts through the last wave

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 11:14:45 2014 No.12719447

>>12719380
The final wave is slightly stronger than the first and second waves, your damage needs to be low enough not to OHKO them.

Then, provided you don't get a ridiculous string of crits, you'll be able to heal toward the end of the last wave each time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 11:23:42 2014 No.12719468 >>12719447 Well my Baba is already too strong apparently. The other two girls with heals talked about earlier work too even with OHKO and since they take less damage due to skills and range, they should be able to reliably solo, too

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 11:32:16 2014 No.12719480 >>12719468 I'm guessing you've remodeled her? Mine is level 27 and she's still soloing fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 11:35:29 2014 No.12719486 >>12719480 I fed her some attack up Tho, I couldn't use the skill even when she couldn't oneshot even wave 2 enemies

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 11:46:45 2014 No.12719504 >>12719486 That's weird, the timing is close to the end but you should have no problem getting it off if you're not oneshotting them. Does your Baba have attack speed/range boosts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 11:52:54 2014 No.12719515 >>12719504 I tried with +8 range and +5 speed / range and without, no dice

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 12:58:02 2014 No.12719664 File: 98 KB, 800x480, feels like i'm in a horror movie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 13:07:11 2014 No.12719681 File: 176 KB, 799x477, hnng.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got a water loli from water exploration

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 13:28:07 2014 No.12719724

>>12718748
As soon as I got her I started grinding her on 1-1 like crazy, she's the only remodelable girl I have who's actually effortless to grind.

>>12719149
I'm not sure, but I try not to go all-10 anymore (especially with equipment due to how resource distribution reliably determines which type you get). But yeah I have more resources than keystones too, my first couple days playing I couldn't even get below the regen cap because it was so low and the quests were giving me resources faster than I had keystones to spend them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 13:33:29 2014 No.12719735 >>12718748 Her remodel's rice consumption is only 50 too. At max stats she melts anything that appears from the entrance in 4-7, even those big spider things, if she's with 1 other sword girl. She turns 4-7 into the new 3-3.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 15:02:52 2014 No.12719894 >>12719735 Oh, is that true? So the set up would be her + 1 sword girl and one at base to level up? Would four lvl 30+ girls be enough to get me to 4-7?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 16:00:10 2014 No.12720001 >>12719681 I can't get anything decent from exploration Level 5 mountain and plains, level 3 Lake

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 17:42:07 2014 No.12720248 Anyone that has beaten 4-7 and can show off what enemies pop there? Kinda curious whether I should bother to clear world 3 right now

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 17:52:53 2014 No.12720290 File: 66 KB, 641x397, 4-7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12720248 Plus some cannons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 17:55:44 2014 No.12720299 >>12720290 Can I perfect 4-7 with 2 sword castles? Are there any specific requirement I need to fill?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 18:06:30 2014 No.12720315 >>12720299 The best I got was 2 sword castles camping on entrance and 1 gunner to deal with the spillage. It should be doable with a maxed Kanegasaki/Morioka though.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 18:22:31 2014 No.12720343
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So while sitting here staring at this girl, I go to look at her wiki page. The very first comment is a nip remarking on her size prefaced with "(while staring)". I guess this is what they mean by "through dick, unity".

And everyone seems to be comparing her to Unryuu, I like her look better though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 18:46:24 2014 No.12720427 >>12720290 How much rice do you get from clearing it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:01:24 2014 No.12720480 >>12720427 196

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:08:34 2014 No.12720506 File: 15 KB, 235x84, ss+(2014-11-22+at+07.37.36).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I know the right one is perfect clear,but what about the left one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:19:28 2014 No.12720537 >>12720506 undamaged main castle

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:36:22 2014 No.12720583 >>12720480 Holy shit, so you can essentially get a supplus, eventually, when you have four of those super swords that give +5 range and speed and give two each to Iga and Kanegasaki

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:44:19 2014 No.12720606 Nice, two expensive constructions gave 30 minute timers as usual, then they turned out to be fox mask loli and nurse archer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:49:15 2014 No.12720624 >>12720606 Level 41, 4 holos, a lot of remodeled level 35-50s, still no fox mask. I'm starting to doubt she exists as a drop at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:52:30 2014 No.12720629 Which place gives best gold regen after setting estates map to more gold gain? I'm finally able to keep my other res at 10k each by start of each day but my gold is always below 2k. any guidance is appreciated, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:54:13 2014 No.12720635 >>12720624 At least you got holos, Level 39 here with no fox mask or holos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:56:45 2014 No.12720640 >>12720629 Sorry, I mean gold farming.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 19:59:08 2014 No.12720645

>>12720635
Level 29 with an Odani crafted at lvl 10 or so. She was the only reason I was able to pass world 2 as she just facetanked all the flying units while my archers slowly shot them down. Then I got to 3-3 and grinded a bunch of other spear castles so now she just sit in the back and rest, until one day I call her back to the frontline again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 20:43:26 2014 No.12720754 >>12720645 >Odani at lvl 10 Jesus Christ what overkill; Nanao and Tamonyama were my saviors on 2-5 through 2-7 and Nanao is still my best castle for now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 21:05:07 2014 No.12720797 >>12718516 So how do you save them in 24 hours?

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Sat Nov 22 21:40:01 2014 No.12720907 >>12720797 Pay the ransom money before the ISIS representative comes over Japan and converts them to terrorists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 21:50:29 2014 No.12720920 >>12719179 p-please respond

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 21:52:01 2014 No.12720925 26 now, not a single holo or 矢留ノ城 Farming 3-3 just for remodels is depressing, I want the fox loli

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 21:53:34 2014 No.12720929 >>12720925 I'm 42 and don't have holos or fox mask loli either.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Sat Nov 22 21:59:47 2014 No.12720956 >>12719179 >>12720920 http://shiropro.wikia.com/wiki/Estate_Organization

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:04:17 2014 No.12721121 File: 130 KB, 798x476, ss+(2014-11-22+at+11.33.42).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Too cute.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:12:37 2014 No.12721154 File: 125 KB, 796x489, Nijo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 3 consecutive build. all her.. and I was aiming for the castle idol.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:31:24 2014 No.12721200

So 3-3 is pretty effective for leveling up to 35 or so, but after that it gets a bit slower. Is there a later grinding map that's just as effective or close to 3-3 for higher level girls? Ive seen someone say 4-7 would be good with a proper set up, but I havent seen anyone do it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:37:41 2014 No.12721208 File: 214 KB, 810x485, ss (2014-11-23 at 12.36.50).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fucking finally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:38:12 2014 No.12721210 Kanegasaki with 341 attack still cannot OHKO crabs, which is annoying. That's with a +10 atk +5 spd +5 rg and a +25 atk +6 rg sword Her natural max attack is 306 so I can't feed her any more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:39:38 2014 No.12721212 >>12721208 Where from? I will pay you in gold.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:41:47 2014 No.12721220 >>12721212 From 4/6/6/3 after like 50 tries. Was farming gold keystone from 1-5 all day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:42:22 2014 No.12721221 Wait I don't get it,does having a DMM account from a year ago count as pre-registering? I didn't do anything related to ShiroPro and I'm still able to play,I won't lose my spot or anything like that later,right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:43:47 2014 No.12721224 >>12721221 They opened registration to everyone a few days ago

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:44:45 2014 No.12721226 >>12721224 Got it,thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:44:54 2014 No.12721227 >>12721221 They have opened it to everyone

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:45:39 2014 No.12721228 >>12682458 >>12721221 >>12691290 >https://twitter.com/ShiroPro_STAFF/status/533153957091102722 Just so people will stop asking.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:55:57 2014 No.12721251

>>12721220
To add on, it seems like killing the last enemy of the last wave with damage skills not only gives you more exp but also increases item drop rate. Most of the keystones I've gotten in 1-5 dropped when I was able to kill the boss with a damage skill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:57:05 2014 No.12721260 Is map 2 mostly anti-air? I don't want to bet on my gunners too much if that's the case since they have a rather low DPS.

Anonymous Sat Nov 22 23:57:55 2014 No.12721262

Goddammit, I get the drillhair oujo-sama gunner and I start to think, nice, I'd rather use her than Mihara. Then I realize she's got a fucking small damage buff skill instead of an attack skill. WHY.

I mean really, is there any use to gunners if they don't have an attack skill? As far as I can tell, archers (or ranged sword) are the better choice in any situation if you subtract the attack skill; gambling on a gunner instakilling a tough enemy isn't exactly a sustainable strategy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:00:55 2014 No.12721267 >>12721260 It's a balance between both. You don't have to worry too much about air units since most damage skills can kill them in one hit even if that particular castle doesn't have any anti-air.

Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:01:01 2014 No.12721268

>>12721251
It took me the longest time to even figure out about the exp bonus; I kept seeing myself getting different XP on 1-1 and for a while thought it was simply using a skill or not that affected it. It would take a lot of tedious data gathering to verify drop rates though.

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Sun Nov 23 00:06:20 2014 No.12721285 >>12721251 The damageskill-last kill is a +10% Exp award with a violet medal. Is it a party-wide bonus then?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:07:20 2014 No.12721287 >>12721285 No, only the castle that uses the skill gets the extra EXP.

Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:08:38 2014 No.12721293

>>12721260
I lost 2-1 on first try since the AA units were dispersed and consists mostly of cannons. So I went back and set a main castle that can melee and take on air units. It also takes at least 3-4 hits from my castles to defeat one air unit so probably my level is too low.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:11:12 2014 No.12721299 >>12721293 Meant to quote >>12721267

Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:15:43 2014 No.12721311
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Has anyone gotten this map (山城１) yet? There's only one drop report on wiki that says it drops from 1-5, which doesn't make sense since there'd be more drops of it if it's dropped on a commonly farmed map. Gives +15 gold every 3mins.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:17:56 2014 No.12721319 >>12721293 Use a spear (preferably mountain) castle as main and put an AA unit (cannon or bow) beside it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:20:37 2014 No.12721326 >>12721311 Okay anon, now I want this..

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:21:01 2014 No.12721328 File: 25 KB, 624x104, yama.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>12721311 I got it when I beat 4-7 for the first time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:21:51 2014 No.12721330 >>12721311 That's a drop from world 4 onwards

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:26:46 2014 No.12721346 >>12721328 >>12721330 Thanks, I'll grind at 4-7 for some time and see how it goes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:28:43 2014 No.12721355 File: 14 KB, 315x70, ss+(2014-11-23+at+12.56.57).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is she talking shit about my butai

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:29:21 2014 No.12721357 >>12721355 Yes, your butai is subarashit

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:32:52 2014 No.12721374 >>12721346 Wait, which map are we supposed to use at 4-7 again? Same as 3-3?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:33:34 2014 No.12721376 >>12721357 What a vixen

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 00:43:58 2014 No.12721397 Yakumo is cuter than Senko.. fite me!

>>	Reri !!WF91viYvxCD Sun Nov 23 01:34:41 2014 No.12721523 >>12721397 Fox is always cuter than a snake, dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 01:37:19 2014 No.12721531 Senko is the best Shiropro

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 01:44:42 2014 No.12721550 Any way to play this in a flash viewer yet?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 01:55:50 2014 No.12721580 >>12721523 Fox was so last year, Snake is in the in now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 02:16:52 2014 No.12721620 So when's the new thread? We're pretty much on the edge now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 23 02:28:34 2014 No.12721647 New thread >>12721644

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