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Elona thread.
Most recent version: 1.40fix2
Pastebin (1.39, still relevant) : http://pastebin.com/u6N5WBm2
Monster girl sprite sheet is 1.39 but still works for 1.40fix2.

It's been a while since the last one! What sort of adventures are you embarking on today, /jp/?

>> No.12679311
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>>12679279
>What adventures are you embarking on today?
On my main account I'm still wondering Lost Irva, and grinding like crazy.

Hacked second account i'm just watching gods get drunk, and go lesbian for each other.

>> No.12679316

Still mastering the basic controls. I'll let you know once I get past the tutorial.

>> No.12679325

>>12679311
We need art fags to draw this.

>> No.12679329

>>12679279
>What sort of adventures are you embarking on today, /jp/?
I just got Yukateck's magic rock of "give you 10 platinum" and am debating the merits of going for her weapon vs moving on to Jure.

I'm also playing around with chocolate making kits. Is there a list of what effects the different kinds of chocolates have? Or does anyone know what coating yourself in chocolate does?

>> No.12679336

>>12679329
the kaneituuhou is great to give to your shopkeep pet, and also not a bad throwing weapon in general. I'd recommend getting it, since it's not too terrible a grind to get it, and it does have a lot of advantages.

>> No.12679349

>>12679279
I started a new game; I set up for a warmage, but I'm starting to wonder if it would be fun to try playing as a bard.

>> No.12679380

>>12679349
The startup on bard is a little rough, since you'll have to head to the sister's mansion early on to raise your performing skill so things dont 1hko you with rocks.

After that, it's pretty steady rewards, not nearly as lucrative as it used to be but still very viable.

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RIP

>> No.12679679
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lol

>> No.12680419

>>12679329
From my experience (up to 1.39), the only chocolate dialog that actually have effects (or at least, noticeable ones) is the last one, that is, to fill it with your love, to put a bomb in it, etc.

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hey /jp/, I was wondering if any of you have tried to make a custom class in Elona? As in... starting out with different skills and whatnot. Is it possible? How hard is it? I haven't found any info on this elsewhere

>> No.12682701

>>12682661
Classes don't mean shit in the long run
I just start off as warrior and train whatever skills I want. You'll want to get your health and combat skills up in the beginning, and then I move onto magic and performing later. Pianist and mage are my favorite, but are a bitch to start off as. You can always change your class and get every skill, so don't worry about it.

>> No.12682710

>>12682701
Yeah I know how it is in the long run, I was just wondering if it's possible. Whenever I put a game down for a long time I come back to it and I feel like starting a blank slate, and that happens with elona rather often, so I thought it'd be nice (mostly to make something with some skills I'd consider fun starting out with)

>> No.12682713

>>12679311
I've summoned all the gods to my pad on my main character
Getting drunk, vomiting everywhere, and touching each other is all they do
At least I can fug them too

>> No.12684642

>>12682701
>Classes don't mean shit in the long run
what about class feats?

>> No.12684788

>>12684642
That's kind of another reason I want to make my own class, but yeah can't find any info on the matter ;_;

>> No.12684830
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So, what happened after Noa left this game? Can I transfer my old saves to newest version?

>> No.12684839

>>12684788
no I meant, I don't understand how class feats can be compensated for in the long run

the warmage in particular

it seems to me class choice is extremely important in elona+; then again, I haven't beaten south tyris

>> No.12684901

Is it worth it to play vanilla Elona?

>> No.12684907

>>12684839
Class feats by themselves are pretty minor unless you built with it like other feats. No point getting magic related feats outside of resistances if all you do is buff, for example. Most characters need the usual skills anyway to be decent like weight lifting.

>> No.12685032

>>12684839
You can change your class feat with a business card in E+.

>> No.12685497
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>>12684830
there's a pastebin that touches on that in the op.
New continents, lots of new enemies and pets, revamp of living weapons, rebalancing of combat and growth. New skills and abilities.


If you're pre 1.16, you cant update.
If you're post 1.16, you can.

>> No.12685986

>>12679279
can't find a working download for 1.40fix2. the dropbox link just gives me a 2kb zip file with a text file and an empty folder.

>>http://wikiwiki.jp/elonaplus/#q11e8183
according to google translate, it seems like it has been taken down until v 1.41.

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>>12684901
I personally don't recommend it anon, elona+ just adds so much more neat things including skills (which the game honestly needed more of)

>> No.12686850

>>12685986
found a previous version:

v1.39 from http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:13893

http://www1.axfc.net/u/3309859.zip

>> No.12686995

>>12685986
>>12686850
Might be a bit risky to use the one they took down. They obviously did so for a reason and it's probably a game breaking bug. Let's just wait for 1.41

>> No.12687001

>>12686995
They took down 1.40fix2, not 1.39. 1.39 (r2 or whatever version it was) works fine.

>> No.12687048

Is this a roguelike game? I've seen the thread a few times scrolling past but haven't downloaded it. Is it similar to Neverwinter Nights?

>> No.12687071

>>12687048
It's a roguelike game, yes. However, it's more like a grindy jrpg with permadeath than a western dungeon crawler. there is less emphasis on "runs" and more on emergent gameplay.

>> No.12687090

Is there some sort of mechanism that makes monsters far outside your level spawn if you spend too long in a field?

I just got murdered by an Eldritch horror that blindsided me while I was trying to pickpocket a tree

>> No.12687437

>>12687090

there is many reasons why that could have happened, random enemies wearing cursed equipment for example can summon dangerous shit the same as you can

>> No.12687787

>>12687090
There's definitely something to that effect, if you stick around for a long enough time you almost invariably get what you just described.

>> No.12689833

>>12687090
That's what you get for stealing his trees.

>> No.12689911

>>12687787
fucking knew it

I eat a steak, scan for chestnuts, steal some trees and suddenly <Great Race of Fuck You> appears out of nowhere and insanity-locks me until a koala appears and starts breathing on my face

this is why I don't play permadeath

>> No.12690119

>>12689911
While spawns on fields are usually area-based, afaik, (the fields around Palmia always only spawn me squirrel-level enemies) after that, additional spawn types are usually based around your own level. So while you stay in, say, Palmia field that's like level 1 or something, if you're already lv 60 or above, straying there and waiting for respawns will give you level-matching enemies. Still, you're pretty (un)lucky to have not only spawned a yith type enemy, but an artifact level enemy at that. Koala still sucks dick, though.

>> No.12690176

Are ether weapons viable? I'm scared.

>> No.12690182

>>12690176
You'll be fine, you get so many cure corruption potions that you'd trade them with adventurers otherwise.

>> No.12690200

>>12687071
permadeath isn't default though

>> No.12690209

>>12690176
I've got two on and I'm fine. Some anon told me to cap it at like 4 ether equips at a time. Probably gets easier later, as potions of corruption get more common.

>> No.12690215

>>12679279
Being a Fairy Farmer, although far enough to be a jack of all trades (getting music tickets and wanting better jewels will do that to you).

Stuck on making my character stronger (dualing Kumiromi Scythe and Lucky Dagger, but mostly being a Magic Gunner), or trying to figure out what pets to use; Even my Exile with AP added Speed and Crystal Spear feels somewhat lackluster compared to just using a Kali or the super Bells.

>> No.12690518

>>12690182
And then steal them back of course.

>> No.12691138

I finally upgraded my cave to the small castle, but unfortunately it loses the maid-given name at that time. Goodbye Gay Rainbow Mansion.

>> No.12691197

How does the sleep sheep even work? The proc rate seems pretty small, and then I get some sort of minigame when it does happen. Do these choices affect the outcome?

>> No.12691260

>>12691197
Don't you want to reach the limit with little girl?

Presumably it raises impress with the pet in question.

>> No.12691262

>>12691260
Ah, sure. I thought I'd get some other benefits from it though

>> No.12692458

Don't forget the more you pray the more of the chance for Jure pussy.

>> No.12694409

Towns feel a bit lonely after a while since most NPCs tend to die off and adventurers seem to never be anywhere for longer than a day. Any way around that?

>> No.12694479
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>>12694409
If you feel like towns are becoming lonely you can always add custom NPC's, and have them stand around.

>>12692458

Sounds good.

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>>12694479
Thanks anon

>> No.12694580

>>12694479
I seem to be killing them on bump, what am I doing wrong? ;_;

>> No.12695226
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>>12694580
Probably not leaving the area, and coming back/setting them to be friendly npcs that the villagers won't kill.

>> No.12695229

>>12691197
Wait, do the sleep sheep do anything special? I thought they were just an upgrade to the sleeping bag.

>> No.12695273

>>12695229
While almost anything is an upgrade to the lowly sleeping bag, sleep sheep lets you get the sleep sharing event with your pets, which you could have learned for yourself on the wiki. I'm not sure what happens if multiple pets (or no pets) have a sleep sheep, but I can confirm that sleep sharing will happen exclusively with the relevant pet if only one holds a sleep sheep.

I'm a little disappointed to see that it's a flat upgrade from the eastern bed (the typical early-game travel bed), being lighter, cheaper, and of higher quality (according to the wiki), though I suppose "balance" has never really been a concern in this game.

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>>12695273
I'm surprised a lot of the sleep sharing event hasn't been translated that much/history of the player as well in the beginning of the game.

We really need to step up, or learn moon.

>> No.12695300

>>12695226
wasn't aware I had to leave town teehee thanks again

>> No.12695375

I want to fuck Kumiromi

>> No.12696845

>>12695375

I want to change kumiromi into a girl

>> No.12697173 [DELETED] 

If I run favor up to 4025 before I pray for the first time will I get all three gifts at once, or just the first one?

>> No.12698631

What do I even begin to do at the beginning? I haven't replayed in a while so I decided to restart, but getting back to the level of my old character feels overwhelming.

I remember going back and forth doing those delivery quests for money, but I'm not sure how I went from there.

>> No.12698752

>>12698631
gather platinum, get some skills, go adventuring.

>> No.12698938

>>12698631

that is basically what you should be doing, but also worship yacatect of wealth immediately and sleep in the kings bed as much as possible for faith dreams

>> No.12701036

>>12698631
you can cheese the early part of the game by buying a nuke and killing lomias/larneirre for their weapons

>> No.12701053

>>12701036
not anymore. they survive it in most recent versions.

>> No.12701059 [DELETED] 
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>Average Elona player.

>> No.12701073

>>12701059
but did he marry the pig?

>> No.12701155

Is training Martial Arts worth it, or just go for weapons instead? Playing a Golem if that means anything.

>> No.12701286

>>12701155
You're going to be playing elona (or not) long after your early decisions cease to matter, so just do what you want.

>> No.12701545

>>12701155

it is but you need to have 200 - 300 levels in the skill for it to be absolutely better then weapons and you can kinda do nearly everything in the game with skills in the 150ish range.

>> No.12701574

>>12701073

If he was a backwater redneck I wouldn't be surprised.

>> No.12702568

>>12695273
Huh, I thought for sure I did check the wiki for that.
I guess I hadn't. Thanks for the information!

>> No.12702763

how do I get my little girl to stop eating shit off the floor

>> No.12702777

>>12702763
Tamer's whip. Whack her with it a good few times.

>> No.12703572

>reading special actions on wiki
>houzanha, 30 mining, field tiles all over the map are destroyed, water tiles also
>alright, cool
>get mining and grind it to 30
>get the skill
>no ores or gold or anything from mined tiles, and 80 sp
t-thanks game

>> No.12703696

Was Quartermaster nerfed? I seem to remember it being a bit better than 1-2 artifacts/5 herbs a year at Expert... doesn't seem to be worth it anymore

>>12703572
>want Greater Evasion
>mage guild quest can go fuck itself
>punch watchman in the face
>run downstairs, cast incognito, return, and teleport
>teleport right next to the guildmaster and get minced on the next turn
threw my arms up so hard they hit the ceiling

>> No.12703885

>>12703696
I still get potions of potential every now and then, but I think it was nerfed. My rewards are a lot smaller, even at 40 karma and quickly-paid taxes.

>> No.12704736

>>12703696
>not saving up hundreds of ancient texts to pump into the mage's guild
>not using a wish on the skill if it's that important to you
Who am I quoting?

>> No.12704819

>>12703696
Ah yeah, I sort of remember that guild masters weren't affected by incognitio anymore.

>> No.12704920

Why there's no download link?

>> No.12704986

>>12704920
read the thread

>> No.12705012

>>12704920
temporary down till the new version is out.

>> No.12705020

>>12703696
>>12704819
>Playing a new character in Plus
>Do the whole rod of teleport + incognito to get some guild skills
>Wait what's that noise
>Why's the wall broken
>OH GOD

>> No.12705036

>>12704986
I better wait for 1.41 then.

>> No.12705049

>>12704736
Mage's Guild isn't quite as good as it was in previous versions, since you can restore spell stock by sleeping.

Fighter's Guild might be the best option, actually.

>> No.12705058

>>12705049
>>12704736
I like to stay guildless. I've got all the skills from the three. I'd rather get the three trainers than just one in my house...

>> No.12705061

>>12705049
>restore spell stock by sleeping
Wait, what? I did NOT get that memo. I only knew that you get spell _potential_, not stock.

>> No.12705180

>>12705061
Hopefully he's just confused and not referring to the strange dream which yields 200 spell stock for approximately one random spell per sleep and is about as effective for gaining stock as relying on salary spellbooks (as in, it's not effective at all).

>> No.12705335

What I really wish for Elona to have is targettable support spells. How I wish I could play a support character for my lil' girl. Buffing and healing her while she handles those nasty koalas and protecting my frail little girl body. Then we would sit down to rest and we'd have my hand-made, herb-infused lunch of high-quality steaks, gratins and sachertorte or parfaits as dessert. Ahh bliss.

>> No.12705720

>>12705335
>natural leader

>> No.12705760

Why the fuck are sea lions and crabs allowed to touch the contents of my bag? Am I seriously supposed to put my seeds and unperishables in my cooler box? The fuck is the point of antiseptic then?

God these fat shitters piss me off.

>> No.12705773

>>12705720
What, cheer? That's it? What of my holy shield, regenerate, element shield and feather?

>> No.12705775

>>12705773
pitch potions?

>> No.12705778

>>12705775
Not nearly as viable as an always-stocked spell writer and incrementing returns of spell stocks.

>> No.12705789

>>12704736
Oh sure, I always save up shit. I collect guns from day 1 even though I always go for Mani last.

The thing is, by the time I'll have amassed those ancient texts, I would've wanted Greater Evasion yesterdecade.

Same deal with Marksman and Eye of Mind, but at least the Fighters Guild accepts preschoolers, whereas the Thieves Guild requires you to be adolf hitler

>> No.12705790

>>12705778
well it's better than nothing! There's also Rubbing which is a pretty nice buff I guess

>> No.12705844

>>12705789
You can get in the mages guild with 30 points, that's an assortment of about a dozen low-tier texts, which you can collect in the puppy cave in a few minutes at no risk. The mages guild is arguably the easiest guild to get into, the thieves guild karma management is a pain and the fighter's guild requires either save/loading or luck to not get "3 <King>" the first time you walk in there at level five.

>> No.12705858

>>12679279
Booted up Elona for the first time in months.

Ended up spending 15 hours straight in it.

Reminded me why I made the Elona CYOA

>> No.12707370

is Traveling worth it, or does it just lead to level inflation?

>> No.12707387

>>12707370
Traveling levels all your skills, therefore trains all attributes and, most importantly, speed. Also level inflation doesn't exist in elona+.

>> No.12707407

>>12707387
>Also level inflation doesn't exist in elona+.
You sure? What if I spend 3 levels doing nothing but mining towns and casting teleport?

>> No.12707429

>>12707407
Obviously it doesn't help you to advance in story dungeons much but that doesn't make them harder.

>> No.12707433

>>12707407
Well I think the main problem in leveling was massive taxes, but Plus nerfed that aspect.

>> No.12707534

>>12707387

It's one of the best skills in the game.

>> No.12707650

>>12707407
Fame now determines monster strength, taxes and things that were originally tied into level. Potions of descent are useless more or less, and levels dont really change much.

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I lose.

>> No.12708460

>>12707407

leveling does do one thing, normally the more learning you have the more skill points you would get per level but now the higher your level the more learning you need to gain bonus skill points, the amount is so high that you probley won't get more then 1 or 2 extra skill points before you get stuck with only getting 5 each level.

>> No.12708693

>>12707864

>get blackjack
>they get 21 in 4 cards
>tie

this isn't how you fucking play blackjack

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help Marisa to find her fucking hat /game

>> No.12709909

>>12709894
You want the magiceye. I miraculously had it drop for me from a black baptist relatively early in the game. Normally, you'll have to kill an over-god type unique character somewhere in lost Irva to find it.

See you in 900 (gameplay) hours.

>> No.12709931

>>12709909
>the magiceye
I can't find such thing on the wiki. What is it?

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>>12709931
Probably mag abyss, best fixedart mage hat.

>> No.12711414
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This well has no hats. Have to look in some other place I guess.

>> No.12711463

>>12710296
>throwing staff of insanity
how does it work? Or does it give the passive bonuses from that slot too?

>> No.12711469

>>12711463
The latter
If you/your pets don't use any throwing/shooting items, you can equip any other weapon/shield in there for their bonuses/armor

>> No.12711885

>>12711414
lel

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"oh look the stairs--FUCK"

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>>12712208

wait till it happens with bomb rocks

>> No.12712276

>>12712208
Hope you have acid-proof everything.

>> No.12712461

>>12712265
It hurts until you figure out the secret to all rocks is that making them, or any suicidal enemy "Wet" removed their ability to self destruct

>> No.12712466

>>12712461

that doesn't really help when they have a 50/50 shot to get a free move for no reason at all

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What should I be trying to add on living weapons? Not really sure, have Crit and spell enhance when I feel like casting, not sure what else.

>> No.12712648

>>12712572
Nether or nerve dmg. Don't add fire or ice because those destroy loot

>> No.12713742

>>12712461
How does it help in a room full of them? There is no way to make ALL of them wet. Only dummies do not carry teleport wand with them though

>> No.12714098

>>12713742
I hear that having a younger sister in your party makes all nearby npcs wet.

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Woah Marisa have found something treasurish!

>> No.12714366

>>12714363
That magic resist is nice, shame its pretty mediocre otherwise.

>> No.12714469

>>12713742
Obviously you should play smart. Use each of your turns strategically to make wet the ones most dangerous as you wipe them out one by one. This is, of course, assuming that your goal is to kill them and not just survive, because a teleport rod is all you need if that's all you need to do.

However, in this situation >>12712208 should the ants be bomb rocks, anon has no choice but to dispatch them or he'll never reach the next level stairs.

>> No.12714796 [DELETED] 

haven't played in a while

updated to newest version

but my character's sprite is invisible, how do i fix this? i completely forget how to do the stuff

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Geez I really want it.

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Hahahaha it is Marisa's property now.

>> No.12715441

Any reliable way to get domination rods at lowish level other than wishes/medals? I use every alchemy charge I find on changing worthless rods into more worthless rods in the hope that I might one day get a good one. Alternatively, is there any way to reliably get a bell down to low health so it can be monster balled? I've never had a bell pet and it looks like I'm going to be wasting some medals on a domination rod if I want to try one.

>> No.12715529

>>12715441
Just buy it.

>> No.12715987

>>12715441
Hit them with poison, sometimes they survive with sliver of health.

>> No.12716039

Please help me, I am new to this game and want to play a Golem that punches things
I'm level 6 now but I just keep dying to everything and have no idea what I'm supposed to do or how to get money/equipment, the quests that people give me are just way too hard
And my little girl hates me

>> No.12716049

>>12716039
Everyone's start is pretty same, you do quest to get starting items. As a golem you will probably want to get riding first as it will double your speed with starting horse and therefore allow to take more quests.

>> No.12716360

>>12716039

your only real option is item delivery quests, avoid any of them that take you to noyel that don't have 12 or 14 day time limits though.

buy almost all glass items, that will get your speed up to around 80ish and then a horse, once you have a hundredish speed I recommend taking a trip to noyel and scumming the holy well for a wish to get a pair of seven league boots which should finally give you "normal" speed by themselves and you can start wearing actual armor.

If you're punching shit I also suggest you look up the small medal pages on the wiki and buy the tonfa from mirals and garoks workshop as quickly as possible.

>> No.12716928

>>12716039
I would recommend to get gardening skill first and keep doing harvesting quests in Yowin. It will train some of your stats and made you stronger. Just make sure your little girl is with you to kill annoying bats and rats.

If you don't have enough platinum coins you should look for "I want it" or "Birthday" quests. Most of the time they would ask for very common items that may just lay around.

>> No.12717053

>>12679279
I'm busy with my Level 11 Yerles Gunner. With my entourage of Little Girls, Younger Sister and town child, killing anything that moves.
I'm busy trying to increase my skills further.

>> No.12717076

I haven't played this game, or any Roguelike, before but it looks interesting and I want to give it a go.
I had a quick read of the pastebin and it seems like quite a bit to take in, but I'm sure I can make mistakes as I go
Only thing is I would want to play a Farmer, Pianist, Tourist, or Predator. I assume there are more classes than those listed in the pastebin, but those would be my picks from the listed.
What does a predator do, is it an unarmed melee fighter?
I read that Farmers and Performers are recommended for experienced players. Does this mean I should avoid being a Farmer, or is it more that I will get more out of it if I am experienced?
Thank you

>> No.12717116

>>12717076
To answer your question about the predator, I believe that it is a assassin-type class. I haven't played predator that much so I don't know how it plays like.

I would suggest checking the wiki for the most part however seeing as i'm still pretty inexperienced you may want to get someone else's input first.
Sorry i couldn't be more help.

>> No.12717216

>>12717076
Your starting class basically determines just that, how you are at the start. As the game goes on you can get more skills and do whatever you want.

predators have slightly higher starting speed, and are based around martial arts and crits. Things like tonfa work wonders if you want to stick with it in the beginning.

As for the farmer/performer question, you'll get more out of it if you're experienced, and it takes longer to get combat-ready as these two. Nothing in elona is permanent, you can always learn new skills and the like. The only thing you cant change from character creation is your race, you're stuck with it forever.

As for tourist though, that's more of a joke class, sort of how snail is a joke race. I wouldn't recommend it. It gives you a harder start for little bonus.

>> No.12717270

>>12717076
Classes only affect your starting skills. There's a special bonus in every class but if you want one particular it's possible to switch your class in-game after. I think easiest classes for beginner is gunner if you want easy kill everything, farmer if you are not planning to fight much and predator/claymore if you into melee.

Also about predator. You start with no armor or weapon but will have to get some anyway because it will be too hard to fight without any protection. Early martial art may work but it is pretty weak.

>> No.12718065

Are the AP feats worth it? I would've gotten them if I wasn't playing a golem and desperate for speed, but they're really expensive considering I don't have a clue about how to get AP in the first place

>> No.12718433

>>12717116
No problem, thanks for your help. I often play a stealth or thief-like class and it can get a bit boring, so I might avoid it this time.

>>12717216
Thats good, dynamic leveling systems always make a game a bit more enjoyable.

I sort of expected tourist to be like a diplomat or something with bonuses to trading etc. Farmer sounds reasonable, but I'm sure I can play around.

>>12717270
That's also good. I might avoid gunner, simply because generic damage dealers sort of bore me.


One other thing, I can't find the download. The dropbox link directs to a dropbox with just a .txt file in it (Which looks like a readme) and the wikiwiki link says something about they've had to stop distribution due to various circumstances.

>> No.12718469

>>12718065

the AP feats do help a lot but as you get stronger you won't really need them after a point.

You gain AP by killing shit that has lots of stats compared to you, not entirely sure what the calculation is but the descriptions when targetting usually give an idea if it will give AP

>> No.12718476

>>12698938
Wait, since when did yacatect stop being awful?

>> No.12718477

>>12718433
>I can't find the download
read the thread

>> No.12718487

>>12718476

you don't worshpi yacatect for anything other then her rewards, the platinum from the gemstone and the goose add up, her weapon is okay I guess, free see invisible.

>> No.12718488

>>12718433
It's temporary,until the next version comes out. Something gamebreaking is probably in the current version, I can give you 1.39 if you'd like, since it should migrate over to 1.41 fine once it hits.

>> No.12718490

>>12718476
Since the hivemind doesn't exist and people have differing opinions. Yacatect has rewards that are especially useful in the early game and her requested items are easy to acquire, making her, like several other gods, a good early-game diety.

>> No.12718498

>>12718477
Sorry, thanks.

>>12718488
When does 1.41 hit, and how big (filesize) is 1.39? I would like to ask for a download, but I do have plenty of other games to play in the meantime.

>> No.12718523

>>12718498
like 33 mb, compressed, 145~ uncompressed.
Nothing too big.

the release schedule is sporadic though, so it could be a few days to a week or so before the next version is up.

Here, have a link for now. (settings/font/sprite sheet is custom, just delete config.txt if you wanna revert to vanilla settings)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/chte2y12ag1yasy/elonaplus1.39.rar?dl=0

>> No.12718640

>>12718523
Thanks a bunch, I'll be sure to enjoy it. I intended to do the recommended mods in the pastebin anyway, so this suits fine.

>> No.12719126

I just gene engineered an extra ring slot on my little girl and exile from camouflaged imps. Is it possible to remove them (and with them the speed penalty) with the help of the Biologist in Kapul?

>> No.12719350

>>12718469
Just learned that the AP feats are refundable, so I tried them out

The Bravery feat is underwhelming, I seem to maybe do 1.2x damage against enemies more than twice my level

The Charm feet procs surprisingly often, but I rarely want enemies right next to me considering I generally have no idea what they're going to do (curse, insanity, scavange)

3500 AP could've gotten me 140 more speed. I'll probably refund sooner rather than later.

>> No.12719441
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Is it what I think it is?

>> No.12719453

>>12719441
It's just an ice bolt rode.

>> No.12719507

I've been playing a fairy pianist in vanila, made a gene with him to reroll for a yerles farmer. My farmer made a gene for my Wizard.
I'm still yet to even see a living weapon even once. Is there a trick in obtaining one or is my luck just that bad?

>> No.12719546

>>12719507

they are just rare, find a black market dealer and invest in them heavily, go back every couple of days or just plain save outside of town and reenter talk to the dealer if you really haven't found one, at 150+ theres a lowish chance to have a living weapon

>> No.12719868

Are rods of domination (and the domination spell itself) targetable like magic dart or adjacent-only like teleport other?

>> No.12719872

>>12719507
If you keep making new characters instead of playing the old ones you probably just aren't getting to a high enough level for them to appear.

>> No.12719906

that's it

I'm grinding holy veil to fucking infinity

mist of silence can kiss my ass

>> No.12719993

>>12719906
Does higher spell level (or casting level, or will) increase the duration or only its effectiveness?

>> No.12720146

>>12719993

the answer is yes, however the effectiveness goes up much faster then duration

>> No.12720198

I can't seem to ever play this game without cheating. Everytime I get to grinding, I keep thinking that it's pointless and I can just cheat for it instead of "wasting" my time.

If only there was a version where you can't cheap or something.

>> No.12720274

>>12719872
Fair enough...

>> No.12720287

So is Riding still good in this or has it pretty much been phased out because people can just buy ridiculously high speed via AP?

>> No.12720311

>>12720287

riding is viable to a point, I am not sure if they have nerfed mega ultra spirit summoning but getting the ap for MAX SPEED will make getting AP much more difficult so finding a fast monster to ride is still a good idea

>> No.12720922

Does healing not gain any exp when you have regen buff on?

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Haha stupid chaos eye.

>> No.12721600

Someone left a little presents in that weird box for Marisa. Happy!

>> No.12721603
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>>12721600
forgot it

>> No.12721616

>>12720311
As far as I know you don't get AP for summoned monsters now. I currently ride lityuou at 700+ speed with speed spell on and rather low skill. His only trouble is that he tend to die when I fight really high level bosses like 500+.

>> No.12721810

>>12721603
I wish player sprites looked as cool as follower sprites.

>> No.12721945

Did Unarmed ever get buffed or is dual wield still the way to go for melee?

>> No.12722013

Help me out here /jp/, I want to get to South Tyris at level 1.

What's the best strategy for doing so?

>> No.12722160

>>12722013
Getting to South Tyris without cheating? I am guessing you going to have to do a combination of cursed equipment that impedes your growth and bells.
Scumming wells for wish will make it faster. As well as hiring adventurers.

>> No.12722162

>>12721945
Dual still best I assume, there are some stuff like the tonfas that help, but it still takes more time for Unarmed to get going more than weapons.

>>12722013
Beat South Tyris and get some monster balls from that one shop Then capture kalis and Xeren satellites. Find as many EXP-limiting equipment ("Halts your Growth") as you can, and then make a gene with all of these in your inventory. Then equip, release your super pets, and then bum-rush the quest.

>> No.12722212

>>12722162
Doesn't the game nerf gene'd monster balls?

>> No.12722235

>>12722212
You're probably thinking of the soul spindle.

>> No.12722242

>>12722235
Well shit, that makes everything better then. Not only can I just cheese Lesimas with a strong pet I can also get an Electric Tank or some other really good mount.

>> No.12722571

>>12721945

unarmed is probley stronger but you need it to be near maxed out to be stronger,. I would imagine finding enough good light weapons to "dual" wield as a mutant with eight or ten hands would be difficult but would still be a far more achievable grind then getting a thousand+ unarmed.

>> No.12722601

>>12722571
Ever since they re-buffed Flying scrolls finding good light weapons has become as simple as refreshing magic shops.

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>> No.12723138

>>12723120
It's awwwright.

>> No.12723265

>>12723120
You're fired.

>> No.12723473
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12723473

Well was hoping for an easy dungeon then i got this annnoying red baptist.

>> No.12723826

>>12720922
Hmm that's a good question. I'd be interested to know this one because I heavily rely on regen as an "always on during combat" buff, but I also want my healing to grow alongside it.

>> No.12723836

>>12720198
You can try deleting your elosnack and cheat engine, stop playing for a year or so or until you forget about both and then when yo come back, play in... "natural"(?) mode, if I remember it's name correctly.

>> No.12724276

Does chance for piercing and criticals stack on weapons? I have an alive spear that has gotten both

>> No.12724288

Is the pot of fusion's "herb in" recipe the most efficient way to use herbs for stat/potential growth? If I'm reading the wiki correctly it lets you get a higher overall potential gain per "rare" herb (not stomafillia or curaria) at the cost of spreading the potential gain among all attributes instead of concentrating on only two. Is there any reason to not use this recipe for all herb consumption?

>> No.12724300

>>12724276
Stack as in able to do their effects at the same time? Yes. Some anon posted a cap before that went *vopal* Critical hit! *vopal* before. That's right, two separate piercing effects.

>> No.12724310

>>12724288
It's the best. Always do it if you can. The obvious no-no's are related to wastage: Don't make more herb food that you can realistically eat before spoilage. Even cursed food give herb bonuses, but it's obviously better to bless these food first. (Or, if you're into mass production/consumption, at least make sure they're not cursed)

Also, you're not at all spreading the potential gain - the herbs still give their focused attribute much more effectively. It's just that it's also multiplied their side-effects as well, so you notice large numbers of stat growth that you didn't normally associate with that herb.

Just do it, anon. It's the best. Also, as an aside, pets get MUCH higher bonuses through this than yourself.

>> No.12724342

>>12724310
>Also, as an aside, pets get MUCH higher bonuses through this than yourself.

it's not unheard of to see pets gain two or more points in multiple stats from herbed food. It's wonderful for raising them up,alongside the low-level pet AP bonuses.

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>>12724342
>Have enough Alchemy to give everyone "Superb" potential with Potions of Potential
>Gardening is good enough to ensure herb seeds regrow after picking.
>Able to cook the best food
>Give all the herbed food to pets, watch every single stat rise
>Eat one and get one stat at best
Also damn, coming back to my game, my Exile has 500 speed and Crystal Spear. Too bad I haven't found a God Heart yet.

>> No.12724504

is there a trick to garok's hammer other then wait until a lucky day? I'm trying to put some stats on a pair of seven league boots and I wanted to know if there was a way to cheese it to at least not get a pair -40 speed blood sucking boots

>> No.12724608

>>12724504
>garok's hammer
If you've bought the hammer, you're bought the effects. Come back later for a new one. Duplicating hammers confirms this

>> No.12724620

>>12724608
Technically speaking, all of Garok's items are generated when you enter the map right?

So if someone wants to use luck, they need to have the lucky day before they even enter the map, and need to have not been there for 11 days or whatever.

>> No.12724645

>>12724310
>Don't make more herb food that you can realistically eat before spoilage
You can just use unrotting food like api nut, chestnut, healthy leaf, and sack of flour based foods, right?

>> No.12724703

>>12724645
Indeed, but I find myself preferring fruit based food since I'm training my Magic.

>> No.12724716

>>12724703
I don't think that affects the outcome.

>> No.12724727

>>12724716
It does, if only slightly. Fruit food normally gives more magic bonus than other food.

>> No.12725056

>>12724727
Herb infused food, even if fruit based IS that "other food" you are referring to.

>> No.12725883

>>12724645
Just place food in the 4th Dimensional pocket
Food won't rot there, so I stick a bunch of steaks and curry in there for herb infusing

>> No.12725911
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Would it be worth it to give my Exile tactical curse and crystal spear?
I just wonder if it will screw up her AI at all. Would she still be able to cast multiple spells in one turn or only with her normal dark darts?

>> No.12726021

>>12725911
It can't multicast anything else but arrow spells. Crystal spear is nice. Tactical curse, maybe but I'd give that to one of your mainly melee pets. Then again, the young lady has that iirc and so much more.

>> No.12726223

>>12726021

will the exile still multicast arrows in addition to the crystal spear? Or will it be cast crystal spear or multiple arrows only?

>> No.12726305 [DELETED] 

Is there a working link to this game?

>> No.12726518

Have you moved your house? Where do you live?

>> No.12726592

>リリースは火曜夜、残業具合によっては水曜夜になりそう
>待ってる人ごめんね

1.41 soon

>> No.12726651

>>12726518
slightly north-east of palmia, near the snowline. Its cozy!

>> No.12726985

>>12726518
Usually just north of Palmia, right between the tax office and the road. I don't build on roads. Sometimes, I build my house right next to Noyel and I find employment around the Palmia - Port Kapul line then return to home after stocking up on cargo. There's some nice ambience going on with the snow tileset.

>> No.12726996

>>12726518
Between Yowyn and Palmia. Have a farm near Yowyn so I can go get Harvest Time quests and drop the seeds there, and Palmia since it's near the Tax Office.

>> No.12727010

>>12726996
That's a good idea.

However, I usually build all of my structures around my house and Palmia because I don't usually use the detour through Yowyn because it's a longer route to Port Kapul.

>> No.12727017

If I'm using a ranged weapon, what properties on my melee weapon carry over? (Ex. Crit chance).

>> No.12727025

>>12726518
I built my cyber house right on the border where snow begins because it's cozy, but eventually I moved and built my small castle right where the original cave house was

It's actually a nice place and has a path going right to your house.
Vernis and the Cyber Dome with its shrine are right nearby and it's not too far from other towns.

>> No.12727033

>>12727017
Surely, all range related stat bonuses such as Marksmanship, Dex and Per. I'm not sure if the brown enchantments carry to different weapons. I'm only sure that they carry for same type weapons, that is - when dual wielding multiple weapons with brown enchantments. I don't know if range enchantments work for melee weapons and vice versa.

>> No.12727141
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who the fuck even makes shit like this

>okay this artifact increases your musical talent in exchange for some of your buisness sense, and it causes the apocalypse, and it's made out of CANDY

>> No.12727155

>>12727141
A cute little girl witch with a sweet tooth, that's who.

>> No.12727295

>>12727155
I'll never look at candy equipment the same again

>> No.12727541

>>12726518
I saved up a million gold and bought a small castle deed and a shack deed at the same time, placed the shack next to the cave, then put the castle right back on the original cave tile (I wasn't sure if it would let me build the castle right on top of the cave). I like the location and it's not really inconvenient. I'd like to live on the northwestern part of the map in the snow (near mansion of little sister) but that really is inconvenient. I'd be much more inclined to do that if there was a return spell target in Palmia or something, returning to lesimas then escaping seems like too much work.

>> No.12727558

>>12727295
C'mon, <Joy Heart> sounds like the name of a very cute magical girl's main weapon

>> No.12727565

>>12727558
>You have identified a girdle (Miracle) (Raw) as the candy girdle <Unrelenting Gay>

>> No.12727569

>>12727565
Magical Girl Lesbians

>> No.12727574

>>12708693
That drives me nuts as well.

>> No.12727608

>>12726518
I use to abuse cargo routes from Noyel to Port Kapul, so my house is next to the path where the snow starts, but I stopped doing that so I might move between Palmia and Yowyn.

>> No.12727613

>>12727541
>returning to lesimas then escaping seems like too much work.
I can't imagine binding and pressing two keys would be that much work

I accidentally destroyed the cyber dome altar with fire rods (thanks Itzpalt) so I've lost about 80% of the reason to live near Vernis (or anywhere near the shithole that is Delphy) and will be moving to Palmia shortly

>> No.12727623

>>12727613
In my criminal play, I lived right beside Derphy.

No one else wants me to live anywhere near them ;_;

>> No.12727634

>>12727141
Don't forget, it also lops off heads.

>> No.12727646

>>12727623
I've had -100 karma for my entire game, pickpocket is my favorite skill, and I've never once liked being in or near Derphy

quests are impossible, can't ask for directions, can't walk anywhere without running into a male stripper, no magic shop, vendors are too busy having sex to negotiate with you, music gets on my nerves, slavery is bad, mark is a faggot, you'll cowards won't even nuke noyel, etc...

>> No.12727719

>>12727613
Cyber dome doesnt respawn like the altars in palmia? First i've heard of that.

>> No.12727935
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I'm a bit confused about what's going on here. I entered this dungeon (a normal random dungeon) and met this NPC (young lady) with a sprite I don't think I've ever seen before whom I can interact with, whereupon she gives the "she ignores you" text like a big daddy or other NPC that doesn't have any speech lines. I saved and quit then reloaded, intending to see if I could monster-ball her, but on load she'd morphed into this guy on the right (a garbage Female), who says the same stuff and again uses a sprite I don't remember ever seeing.
What's going on? Vanilla E+ 1.39.

>> No.12728402

>>12727935
You most likely summoned the Young Lady from a moongate with a summoning crystal. Try to check Derpy's Slave master if he/she sells them. It's the same as the young lady but she can't be evolved.
The garbage NPC happens when a custom NPC is not loaded right in your game. That usually happened to me when I changed versions. and the sprite is that f a Mercenary Wizard.
Also, there is no vanilla E+. There is either Vanilla Elona, or Elona Plus.

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>>12679279

Have any of you heard of the /vg/ fag who basically made the game into Simcity?

>> No.12728630

>>12728607
Is he building multiple shops or something?


But I like the idea, Elona brings out the designer in me, tried making my Small Castle into a tiny city of canals, although it isn't really big enough. Also made my shop into a market, although my shopkeeper sells all of the items and I sometimes find my inventory full before putting enough items (unless I craft them personally). Haven't done anything to my (discarded) ranch and farm yet though.

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>>12728607

Here's my shitty attempt at a pasta summarizing it.

>> No.12729210

>>12728607
Seems more like he's roleplaying it. None of that stuff is relevant to the city inside the dungeon right?

>> No.12729628

>>12728402
How do I delete her? She's obviously the contaminated spawn of some jap's fevered tinkerings and I can't have her tainting my game.

>> No.12729776

I suck at this game. SO fucking much. Just started today and i play on inferno mode even on normal mode i die so fucking much.

>> No.12729789

>>12729210
From what I understand, he's amassed about four abandoned ranches, on non-abandoned ranch, a store, a cyber house, and some sort of unknown skyscraper in close proximity too the dungeon city. Sells the dungeon drops in the underground part to fund the surface bits.

>> No.12729876

>>12729789

Interestingly, he somehow got hostile monsters to function as respawning entities within his abandoned farms as well.

>> No.12729883

>>12729628
Probably the easiest way of removing custom NPCs would be to just reinstall the game, copy the save to the new install then abandon her ingame and let the "wild ones" despawn or kill them.

>> No.12730037

>>12729776
>>12729776


This is me.

Is it dumb that i am trying to play this game first time on Inferno? I have gotten to lvl 3 and died Every time this happens. Also i can never find food to cook everything i kill just turns to mince meat.

>> No.12730059

>>12730037
if you dont know what you're doing, read the pastebin and play on regular difficulty.

>> No.12730068

>>12730037
The game is will heavily fuck you for usually no discernible reason other than "lel RNG".

Even on the easiest mode, it'll find some way to fuck you over.

>> No.12730110

>>12730068
I've very rarely gotten "heavily fucked"
minor inconveniences? sure.
But everything is reversable, there's nothing that can fuck you over long-term, that isn't a stupid decision on the player's part.

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Oi /jp/, I reckon some of you might be able to shed some light on this. Can you get this kind of item replacement sheets working without any sort of external mod?

I'm not getting my hopes very high since I assume this will require something that makes the game incompatible with e+, but I figured it was worth a shot.

>> No.12730162

>>12730037
Work on your anatomy skill
Until then, eat leaves, wild plants, and api nuts
Buy flour from bakeries too
And get the cooler box from the puppy quest in Vernis

>> No.12730290

>>12730162
Are you sure i should not be on inferno? I feel like normal mode is to cheap i just die and respawn at home while getting items.

I dont want to die period i just dont understand how i can lvl up without dying the enemy Performers to be exact fucking are strong and i cant hit them they just run.

>> No.12730314

>>12730290
This isn't your traditional roguelike.

You WILL die due to random unavoidable events. Randomly getting dragons thrown at you, bandit leaders while roaming, random dream that will mutate you into a horrible, etherwind in general, some guy in town with a weapon that causes Ragnarok getting drunk and starting a barfight with another random NPC and then literally ending the fucking town.

>> No.12730332

>>12730314
I think you're exaggerating, pretty much all you have to ever do is carry as much teleportation as you can and prioritize speed over most other things, as well as cha.
Once you start gathering pets that can mince the enemy is when you start actually engaging the enemy at all, bar the weakest of them all.

>> No.12730374

>>12730332
SO i should make a char Dwarf with max running as my feat.OK will do.

>> No.12730411

>>12730374
Tbh wouldn't a fairy be better? Faster, more resilient early and performing is less likely to get you killed when you're starting.

>> No.12730447

>>12730411
fairies are shit late game

>> No.12730464

>>12730411
ALL i want from this game is to RP a bad ass dwarf warrior. But i cant even get past lvl 1 without some fucking thing killing me. Im about to just cheat and give myself money for some armor or something because this seems like i have to grind forever to get gold for the armor. I just want to RP i dont give a fuck about building up.

>> No.12730482

>>12730464
Elona isn't made to play with permadeath anyway, forcing yourself through it unless you're seeking the dubious challenge of getting a ton of pets and rods of tele isn't the best idea.

Plus even when you are real damn fast and have lots of friends you can always be stupid and walk into some slightly harder dungeon and get your face blown up by a teleporting bomb room.

>> No.12730484

>>12730332
>pretty much all you have to ever do is carry as much teleportation
<overleveled speedy asshole> randomly appears
I use teleport
I teleport 5 spaces to the left
<overleveled speedy asshole> critically wounds me
I try teleporting again
it fails with 88% cast chance
<overleveled speedy asshole> minces me

I'll play inferno when they remove random <enemies>

>> No.12730491

>>12730484
That's why it's really boring, because you'd have to play it as safe as possible and always keep things like that into account.

>> No.12730566

>>12730491
In hindsight, I probably should have used a scroll, but that lv22 inferno file wasn't fun at all, even when I was doing well

I was either bored out of my mind pissing around in towns like a tourist or backtracking through wasted dungeons after rolling bullshit floors

I'll stick with Natural

>> No.12731765

Let me know when 1.41 is out.

>> No.12731812

>>12730332
There's nothing you can do when an adventurer wearing an "attracts monsters" item spawns next to whom dwell in the vanity, nothing except probably die.

>> No.12731845

What equipment slots should I be trying to get onto my silver bell for maximum cheesiness? I'm torn between ring slots because it seems like there's no shortage of rings with powerful bonuses and hand slots because then I could put to good use these crappy living weapons I have sitting around.

>> No.12731856

>>12731845

hands can have weapons or shields which are probley better then rings, three or four shields that reduce damage and reflect damage that also give like 30/60 defensive stats are pretty cool

>> No.12732547

>>12731845
Make it immune to poison, bleeding and give it rubynus things as well as flying.

>> No.12732553

>>12731845
Neck for Arbalest, hands for tonfas, the rest for Rubynus whatever.

They'll have less HP because of artifacts but their offensive power will be disgusting.

>> No.12732980

>>12731845
Generally hands and bodies. Hands for equipping weapons/shield/claws/tonfas and bodies because body armor has pretty high DV and PV values compare to others. Of course if you want to wear a specific item that requires that slots, go ahead. Currently my Bell of Termination is triple-wielding timestop weapons and is aptly named Dio Brande.

>> No.12733091

>>12731765
http://www1.axfc.net/u/3364504.zip

Note: If you are upgrading from 1.40, 1.40fix, or 1.40fix2, you may lose added bodyparts. Any equipment attached to lost bodyparts will be lost. An item will be placed at your feet to regain lost bodyparts.

Changes and Fixes:
- Rearranged abilities
- Platinum cost to learn new skills have been lowered to a min of 5 and max of 15
- Added six monsters of two types: miniboss and rare
- Changed sprites for Nyarlathotep and King in yellow
- Added sprite for female rogue boss
- Added a subboss to the 3rd area main quest. Enemies on the map will have 50% increased gauge until the boss is defeated.
- Increased the number of items that can be redesigned by Garok to 33
- Shops and museums built in the 3rd area will now have 3rd area NPCs
- Added unique NPCs to that place where killed unique NPCs go
- Damage against Undeads/Dragons/Gods due to an enchant is now dependent on the strength of that enchant. Increased chance for living weapons to improve this enchant.
- Recruitment penalty will not occur again for allies of reincarnated characters. Furthermore, the min stat after penalty is 50.
- Sleeping allies will not attack you when awoken with a whistle.
- Rods weigh 50% less and are much stronger.
- Scrolls of Recharge now recharge +2 instead of randomly. Books will always recharge +1. Failure of recharge and item destruction now depends on Magic device. (100 in the skill will avoid destruction 99% of the time)

>> No.12733126

>>12733091
- Requests will no longer give drastically reduced money if the player's level is too high.
- Added an ability that applies a potion's effect to every target in the player's sight (including the PC). The potion's effect is slightly nerfed compared to when it is thrown. Some potions cannot do this (Hermes', potential, etc.) Love potions may do this, but affection increase is halved and milk/eggs will not appear. This ability is for healing allies when no enemies are around, or causing mass status effects when they are (after taking the precaution to protect yourself)
- Added three recipes to item fusion. Throwing weapons that are designed to be used early-mid game. These weapons do not disappear when thrown, but need to be retrieved. Damage numbers are still a work in progress.
- Modified the experience gained when throwing non-weapon items. Taking into account that these are finite, the experience has been mostly increased.
- The requirements for high level potions (Sancito, Soma) have been decreased.

>> No.12733149

>>12733126
>>12733091
Thanks for translation.

>- Requests will no longer give drastically reduced money if the player's level is too high.
Getting 2000 gold for slaying level 600 monster, I knew something was wrong there!

>> No.12733224

>>12733091
Is there no English version in this update?

>> No.12733297

>>12730137
You don't really technically need a mod, but you'd have to manually cut out the 48x48 sprites on the sheet and save them as individual bmp files. Additionally, the item replacement system would only work for that item type, so you couldn't have the rods or books looking different like that. There is at least one Elona version I'm aware of that doesn't have an english translation that allows "ex" items to be set so that different books and rods can have unique appearances. Normal Elona and ElonaPlus don't have that feature, though.

If you still want to use them, there's a small amount of extra info here:

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Custom_item_sprite

>> No.12733302

>>12733224
sorry, I don't know how elona releases work, nor have I opened the file; that's just the update released by ano on the 2ch thread that I decided to check and translate on a whim

So if there's no english option, I guess you'll just have to wait for one with one to appear on the wiki. I was just letting people know 1.41 was out.

>> No.12733305

>>12733224
>>12733302
If you go to options on the main menu, you can change the language. You have to restart the game for it to take effect.

>> No.12733439

Did Claws ever get buffed or are they still worse than gloves at pretty much everything?

>> No.12733602

>>12733091
I'll have the monster girl spritesheet updated tonight or tomorrow, and I'll throw it in a new pastebin.

busy dealing with turkey day, so it'll be a little slow

>> No.12735346

Any way to find a particular adventurer? One of them has the Gemini, and I need to take it from them.

>> No.12735369

>>12733297
I see. What a shame, I was hoping for was a way to individually set item appearances as those packs suggest.

Oh well, still handy info to have around and I guess I could use potions and scrolls looking a bit less terrible. Thanks mate.

>> No.12735403

>>12735346
I think the only way is asking a informer about the list of adventurers, and hoping they're residing in a town.

>> No.12735686

>>12733602

Don't forget to replace FEM!rogue boss's sprite with the MG sheet, and use the male sprite in the bobblehead sheet for the default now that they have gender dimorphism.

>> No.12735722

What class/race combination has the easiest earlygame?

I don't want to make a long-term character, I just need to get a couple silver bells, decent ranged weapons, and Disturbs Growth gear to gene a Mutant with.

>> No.12735763

>>12735722
Catgod/Anything

Although maybe a gunner/warrior, anyone who just needs a weapon instead of investments.

>> No.12735765

>>12735763
Oh yeah, I never even considered cheesing with one of the extra races. Thanks for the tip.

>> No.12735831

>>12733091
Found a new monster: Wandering penguin. It was in a $$$$ hunting quest. It died from a 139 damage shot. Sadly it had no sprite with the monstergirl sheet.

>> No.12735835
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12735835

I stumbled across an old Elona file when going through my backup drives.

Remember this /jp/?

>> No.12735836

>>12733091
I got six of those body part compensation items even though I never had any extra body parts and my pets retained their extra parts. Was that supposed to happen?

>> No.12735839

>>12735836
Same here.
I guess everyone gets them.

>> No.12735860

>>12735835
Everyone loves Shena's ass!

>> No.12735892

>>12735835
wait. you were traveling for 2 to 3 years of game time only to get around 350k? I guess this is why i never really into cargo stuff...

>> No.12735911

>>12735892
It was much, much faster than that. I was pretty far into that character until I heard about the cargo stuff, and I'd already blown a couple million on investing.

>> No.12735924

>>12735831

It has a second tier/possible evo? in the Emperor Penguin.

>> No.12735926

>>12735911
Ohh... right. Vanilla, and it's "leveling-up-is-actually-bad feature".
I apollo juice but your lvl 16 threw me off.
Playing E+ made me so lazy, I find that daily 20-50k my shopkeeper makes quite enough.

>> No.12735931

>>12735924
That would be awesome.
Imagine the Emperor, Grizzly kun, Mr. Snowbear and Panda kun in your party.


oh and a llama

>> No.12735978

>>12735686
will do.

>>12735831
>Sadly it had no sprite with the monstergirl sheet.

working on it.

>> No.12736085

>>12735978
>working on it.
Thanks, although ctrl+C-ing and ctrl+V-ing a part of and image isn't all that hard to do.
Coming up for a suitable idea and then redrawing them is...

>> No.12736098

>>12736085
>>12733602

well, I've already got some cute girls for the penguins, and a handful of some other new sprites and edits. Fixed a few outdated sprites, added in a new big daddy (If anyone prefers the old one, tell me and I'll swap it back for next version, it's a bit different.)


>>12735686
got a big burly fucker for the male rogue boss now.

http://puu.sh/d7BQf.bmp


Enjoy, everyone. I'll throw it in the pastebin when I update it for next thread. If you see any mistakes or changes, just point them out and I'll get around to them.

>> No.12736139

Is there any way to reset\reduce my dungeons level? It's not very funny when most of dungeons have 600-900 level range, even weak creatures made into bosses in those tend to make mincemeat out of me.

>> No.12736145

How do I get money

>> No.12736158

>>12736139
lose a lot of fame.

>>12736145
dungeons, cargo runs

>> No.12736181

>>12736139
grab a harvest time, rest, grab a harvest time, rest, repeat until you have a reasonable amount of fame.

>> No.12736194

>>12736181
it'd be better to just uproot a lot of stuff and never turn it in, so you train your gardening at the very least

>> No.12736196

>>12736098
The Rogue Boss is awesome like that, but the Penguin lost her Red Penguinger scarf. Not sure i like her this way.

And now for something completely different. I never ever found a female fire@dragon child for the sprite to make sense. I had to feed her a sex change meat.

>> No.12736212

>>12736196
I could add a scarf on later. I was originally thinking of using a prinny sprite or something, but I figured cute girls would match the rest better. I'll keep it in mind, might tweak it or something eventually.

As for the female firedragons and whatnot, it is a monster /girl/ sprite sheet. I'd love to make a bishounen one on the side, but there's just not enough sprites to even warrant an attempt.

>> No.12736216
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12736216

>>12736181
>>12736158
But I have only 75000 is it really too much?Though those dungeons started to pop up when I started tele raiding so maybe It's really too much.

>> No.12736431

>>12736216

sounds like some kind of bug, I have more fame then you and I haven't seen any dungeons like that

>> No.12736433

>>12736212
I highly doubt there are natural female fire@dragon children but the sprite looks somehow like a trap. It's the Vesda and metal Vesda Sprite that made me sex change her. Those are just too feminine.

>> No.12736502

>>12736431
I think I remember somebody saying that dungeon generation depends on the strongest dungeon boss defeated. And I squashed silver bell 800+ level.

>> No.12736550
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12736550

This game tries to screw me over all the time. This happened 2 seconds after I picked up a Beauty and the Beast quest...

>> No.12736707

hm, I've been looking a bit more into sprite swapping even if Ex sets are out of reach.
Am I just missing somewhere obvious or are there no weapon/armour sprite packs? There are single units on the uploader, but that'd take a heck of a lot of time to apply and none of the zips I've checked (a lot) had any weapon sets or amours.

Speaking of which, is there any way to make browsing the uploader less of a pain in the neck or automatically downloading every zip?

>> No.12736880

>>12736212
You're drawing the sprites yourself? what are the ones you did?

>> No.12736882

>>12736880
a few I've done myself from scratch, and few are sprite-bashes of multiples or redrawings.

I'd rather not point them out, but if you don't notice them as standing out or looking too out of it, then I guess it's fine.

>> No.12736891

>>12736882
I don't notice them because I've started playing again after like four months and my memory is almost completely wiped.
>I'd rather not point them out
but why.

>> No.12736994

>>12736891
I'm shy

>> No.12737100

What early available creature can I use to give my horse ring slots?

>> No.12737383

>>12737100

a centipede

>> No.12738092

I've been thinking...is it possible to choke a god to death by "innocuously" offering them mochi?

>> No.12738129

>>12738092
They wouldn't accept the item

>> No.12738167

>>12736216

>1352 cm

You're as tall as a gundam!

>> No.12738172

What sort of things should I look for on equipment? Also, are random items better than pre-made items?

>> No.12738286

>>12738172
Depends on what your role, although resistances and one of each special trait (IE, "It Floats You", "Protects you from thieves", etc) are always good.


Random Artefacts can be better, although Fixed ones can easily be found for the most part, and will always have the same stats.

Although if you plan on using a gene'd character, note that Fixed items are marked with "Precious", and can't be transfered.

>> No.12738304
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12738304

In response to an anon complaining that the sheet didn't have a proper replacement for the <Grandmaster> sprite in /rlg/, I have spiced together this thing for a suitable alternative, so as for it to better fit in. On a scale of terrible to okay, what do you folks think?

(Note: I'm not monster girl anon, I'm just another wandering person who messes with pixels.)

>> No.12738311
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12738311

>>12738304

Ooops, and I already made a mistake in the proportions of the left arm. Fixing.

>> No.12738313
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12738313

>>12738304
>>12738311

Damn it, colouring error in the eyes. Fixing yet again.

>> No.12738317

>>12738304
>>12738311
>>12738313
While it seems in line with the rest of the bobblehead type sprites.

It does have the flaw of looking completely and utterly lame.

Also its left leg looks like it's on the front of the body while the right is on the side/back.

Neither look like they're actually directly underneath the body.

>> No.12738337

>>12738304

Nice start, at least with the arms/sword, but agreeing with above anon in that it hardly looks "grand".

>> No.12738810
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12738810

Damn, I wish I could have one with me every time.

>> No.12738888

>>12738810

what ability is that?

>> No.12738892
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12738892

>>12738888
You mean full charge? Wiki says you can get it with constitution 120 and advancing south tyrus quest, but it appears to be kinda broken so I had to buy it for AP.

>> No.12738937

I just got shining wave. its devastating.
my penis is pretty hard

>> No.12739172

>>12736216
How did you get so strong so fast? Is it common to have those sorts of stats 180 hours in?

>> No.12739251

>>12739172
I suppose It is. I just tried to fuck around less and level up more, rushing useful skills, getting a mage guild, robbing early dungeons with loads of pets. Elona isn't really a hard game. Maybe it's harder for those who play without magic, I dunno.

>> No.12739260

>>12739251
What mode are you playing on?

>> No.12739270

>>12739260
The one with a penalty after no save loading. though i have to admit I took back life and mana penalties with elosnack. After all it's isn't scumming if my game crashed or I accidently added myself a new limb at gavela's.

>> No.12739654

I moved the elona+ pastebin over to an actual account so I can update it from now on instead of having to re-do it when things change/new mods come out/ new versions come out.

I'll post the new link in the next thread,once this one is kill.

>> No.12739885

>>12737383
Thanks man.

>> No.12740428

I want to fuck Lulwy!

>> No.12740468

Anyone know what Tag Force does? Not really sure what it does, besides making a ally stay with you and making moving clunky (in 1.39 anyway, haven't upgraded yet).

>> No.12740679

>>12740468
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:12701

This is the most informative bits I can find on it.

>> No.12740735

>>12740428

Then you must level up to 301 and romance her the old fashioned way.

>> No.12740747

>>12740468

Tag allows you to drag your pets out of situations that would otherwise kill them, as well as recall them from across the room.

>> No.12741192 [DELETED] 

>>12738888
the ability to get quads on command ;))))))

>> No.12741488

>>12740468
Gives you a real neat buff, for me it raises chances to cast wish from 1% to 33%.

>> No.12741901 [SPOILER] 
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12741901

... I just wish you could further evolve your unicorn with a Machine Heart...

>> No.12742024

Is there any way to prevent resistance loss during sleep? I'm talking about the corpse resistance gains, not the mutations.

I've never reached +## for any intrinsic resistance because I lose them almost immediately the next time I sleep

>> No.12742032

>>12742024
Savescumming.

That's it.

Something annoyingly discovered is that luck has zero relevance whatsoever to dreams so eating 30 happy apples won't work either..

>> No.12742043

>>12740468
Tried out teaming up my weakest pet with my strongest/fastest guy. When they kill together they both get AP. This way I might get enough AP on the weak one for a few speed upgrades.

>>12742024
just simply don't count on those resists.

>> No.12742139

>>12742024

give those resists to your pets instead

>> No.12742253

>>12742043
yeah, I've been pairing my pets up and they're getting tons of AP now. Trying to keep them similar in terms of tactics, so I've got my heavy weapon users, my long range, my buff/debuff, and my dual wielders all paired.

Seems like you can pair someone with yourself and still ride, but it gets really slow.

>> No.12742270
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12742270

So I was doing the arena, and suddenly I got 20k fame and a potion + material kit + treasure map


Is this a new reward for arenas or something? I've never gotten this before.

>> No.12743283

Tried to redownload Elona after like a year of not playing it, but it keeps crashing immediately on launch.

Am I just being dumb, or am I missing something? Tried Run As Admin and AppLocal.

>> No.12743334

>>12743283
Did you extract the files in japanese locale?

>> No.12743374

>>12743334
Not him, but I doubt that's it. It works for me even when I extract it in US locale.

>> No.12743381

>>12743334
I've extracted them a couple times now.

I thought I was an idiot and went to get vanilla elona first, and that works... sort of. It likes to crash a couple times before working.

When I put the E+ files into the vanilla folder, it went back to crashing.

I don't recall it being this finicky, so I'm probably messing something up.

>> No.12743399

>>12743381
>When I put the E+ files into the vanilla folder, it went back to crashing.
What? Elona+ is a standalone game. Just extract the .rar and play.

>> No.12743412

>>12743399
Tried that at first, and it was what was giving me the problem in >>12743283

E+ would just crash immediately for me, so I figured I needed vanilla too. I'm just kind of at a loss for what the fuck is going on.

>> No.12743419

>>12743412
Is it giving you any specific errors?

>> No.12743440

>>12743419
Nothing, just the usual windows "Elona.exe has stopped working" spiel that windows usually tosses at you when it doesn't know what's up.

>> No.12743444

>>12743440
which version are you using?

>> No.12743449

>>12743444
Downloaded and tried 1.41 and 1.39.

1.39 crashes immediately
1.41 waits a few seconds and then crashes.

>> No.12743464

>>12743449
You don't have any controllers or game pads plugged in, right? those sometimes will cause random crashes.
Try deleting config.txt if you have one, and let it re-generate it.
Try making sure your anti-virus isn't interfering with elona as well (some pick it up as shady because of the network connection part of it)
Make sure it's not a protected folder, make sure it's not read only, and make sure your download isn't corrupted.

>> No.12743503

>>12743464
No controllers or anything else.

Deleted config.txt and got it work long enough to ask me whether I wanted English or Japanese - after choosing it crashed again... No matter what I chose.

Not in a protected folder, download(s) are redownloaded and retried, certainly not corrupted.

Went ahead and manually set both firewall and antivirus to trusting it, still explodes.

Weird thing is that the Elochat application works fine, and the Elona+ thing will launch just fine if all I want to do is choose my language, but then it just falls flat on its face from there.

>> No.12743537

>>12743283
Does Elona+ even need japanese locale?

I don't think the original did, but I can't speak for E+ because I just leave my locale at Japan now.

>> No.12743549

>>12743503
You don't have any graphics mods on it, right? A cursory google suggests to set the sound and music value to '2' in the config.txt, which might help. It might be the midis.

>> No.12743555

>>12743537

I don't know if it does or not? It won't run with the local, or without it, so its kind of a moot point for me.

>>12743549
No graphic mods at all, just the freshdownload package from OP and some other anon's dropbox later in the thread.

Just followed the advice about the sound/music values and-

SORCERY. You have resolved the problem, anon.

Two weeks till finals, time to get addicted to a roguelike again....

>> No.12743645

after you get the artifacts from the work shop what do you even use small medals for? most of whats avalible in the shop you can get elsewhere, speed uppers are relatively common and better then hermes blood, there is a quest to exchange sox for scrolls of growth, and the hammer just produces garbage almost all time. Is the furniture offered any good?

>> No.12743778

>>12743645
Rods of domination, bottles of water and scrolls of growth are the main things.

>> No.12744403

>>12744398
New thread, updated pasta.

>> No.12745653

>>12740735
Nah, just invite her to your house, level up her affection with gifts and friendship tokens, and then use squeeze on her

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